IRC log for #dragonbox-pyra on 20160525

00:02.36dTaloh duh
00:02.51dTalbanggood actually sells spare mainboard for them, with nice hi-res photos
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00:04.50WallyLooks like my other SD card is screwy
00:06.57Wallyinput/output errors
00:17.52WallyThe Pandora NAND is pretty useless these days
00:18.27WallyaTc would you kill me if I made a zenity front end for DBPUtils?
00:19.48WallyBlueMaxima what's on today m8
00:19.59BlueMaximalike...on the telly?
00:20.17WallyIRL
00:20.21BlueMaximawell
00:20.28BlueMaximado you know anything about starting a business
00:20.38WallyI started going down that route.. so kinda
00:20.47WallyYou should look up the NEIS scheme though
00:21.10WallyThe govt will pay you while you build a business
00:21.24Wallybut you also get assistance from the people who work with the NEIS scheme.
00:21.27BlueMaximahttps://partners.playstation.com/apex/PO_AccountAppliPTR?lang=en < I just need to be enough of a business to be able to fill this out
00:22.24WallyGot an ABN?
00:22.57BlueMaximaI'm starting entirely fresh
00:22.59BlueMaximaSo no
00:23.11WallyDo you want to sell games wholesale?
00:23.23BlueMaximaIt would most likely be digital downloads only
00:23.30BlueMaximaSo would that count as wholesale
00:23.52WallySo you want a license to digitally distribute PSN games?
00:24.45BlueMaximaPretty much; I played an absolutely shocking game this morning and I was like "I can do better than this with two hours of time and my current copy of GameMaker"
00:25.11WallyThe only problem with ABNS is you need to declare any income you have made :P
00:26.10BlueMaximawell I haven't made any yet :P
00:26.16Wallyhaha
00:26.22WallyMake a game first :p
00:26.34BlueMaximaI have a few prototypes lying around
00:26.40WallyI don't think gamemaker crap works on PSX
00:26.46BlueMaximaActually it does now
00:28.25Wallyoh ok
00:28.25BlueMaximaGM Studio can export to PS4, PS3 and Vita if you have the licenses
00:28.25WallySo you need an ANB
00:28.25WallyABN
00:28.25Wallythen you should be set
00:28.38BlueMaximahmm, abn entitlement might be a problem
00:29.56WallyWhy's that?
00:30.52BlueMaximahttps://abr.gov.au/For-Business,-Super-funds---Charities/Applying-for-an-ABN/Business-structures/Individual-Sole-trader/
00:31.18BlueMaximaI don't know what "sufficient commencement activities" would count as
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00:32.20WallyIt's a bit misleading really
00:33.01WallyBlah I forgot to format the SD card as ext2
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00:33.50WallyBlueMaxima http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1872591
00:33.55Wallywhirlpool to the rescue ;)
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00:34.38Stainy<pyra
00:34.38phanboetTotal preorders: 710 [497 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 698x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 135, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 358}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 02:30:15 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
00:35.01BlueMaximafuggin' whirlpool man
00:39.22BlueMaximamaybe I should just apply straight for an ABN and hope for the best
00:39.32WallyShould be right
00:42.36BlueMaximashit will I need a tax file number too
00:50.26buZz#69
00:56.45WallyThought you'd have a TFN already
01:01.50BlueMaximaTurns out I do, but since I dont' have my birth certificate, a passport or a visa I can't get it
01:01.53BlueMaximaso you know, fuck me
01:12.18WallyWOW
01:12.34WallyYOU WERENT EVEN BORN
01:12.36Wallyhedonist pls
01:12.36phanboetPLS U
01:12.56Wallyi'm gunna do the smart thing and enable the nubs properly to start with..
01:13.23Wallyhttps://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/appimage-instead-of-pnd.77478/page-3#post-1380588 What's with this guy
01:13.51hedonistWally: hmm?
01:13.56hedonist:P
01:15.44WallyD:
01:16.58hedonistwhat?
01:17.05hedonistI'm just enjoying life
01:17.06Wallyspiders
01:17.12WallyWhat you been up to m8
01:17.13hedonistalso, really surprised that this nick wasn't already registered
01:17.31Wallyyou registered it?
01:17.42hedonistWally: I went to Chicago this last weekend to setup a new office for my company
01:17.43DocScrutinizer51phonecall... in the subway, with operator next seat
01:17.48hedonistgot to hang out with a friend
01:17.50hedonistit was nice
01:17.52hedonistWally: yeah, I grouped it
01:18.03Wallyyay
01:18.50hedonist't was nice
01:19.31WallyOf course.
01:19.37Wallywhere is holysmoke
01:20.17DocScrutinizer51I can five you magicsmoke (blue)
01:20.42WallyNO MAGIC SMOKE
01:21.25DocScrutinizer51cranks up the voltage to 40V on that 20A lab PSU
01:22.04DocScrutinizer51look! there it escapes
01:23.18WallyD:
01:23.53DocScrutinizer51what do you mean by "I still needed that pyra prototype"?
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01:26.00WallyDocScrutinizer51 pls
01:26.01phanboetPLS U
01:26.01WallyDo not
01:38.19DocScrutinizer51ok. I think the USB power in is overvoltage protected up to at least 36V anyway
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02:08.49Wallywow halosghost
02:08.54Wallymake up your mind!
02:12.18Wallyblahh my exagear activations are blahh
02:14.11halosghostWally: I'm bored and trying to entertain myself
02:14.22halosghost:P
02:17.13WallyEltechs have a crappy business model
02:17.24Wallyyou love it halosghost
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02:19.55halosghost¯\ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ/¯
02:28.43Stainystarted my piKEA build today
02:28.59warshwhat's a piKEA
02:29.37Stainyhttp://lifehacker.com/build-a-retro-gaming-table-on-the-cheap-with-a-10-ikea-1762899356
02:31.01Stainyalthough mine will be a black table, blue and red buttons and with a white surround the monitor
02:33.52Wallycool
02:36.13StainyCut out for the monitor is done. Buttons and joystick are in. Arduino is programmed and microswitches are soldered.
02:36.22StainyWaiting for an hdmi to vga adapter and the speakers
02:37.39Stainyany news from ED?
02:45.32WallyONLY YOU
02:49.44StainyYou`re a wally
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02:57.26Wallynou
03:06.45WallyI don
03:06.51Wally't want to have to buy another copy of exagear..
03:09.38WallyLooks like i'm shifting my focus today then..
03:09.51SuperRoachWhy?
03:10.02WallyEltechs guys aren't at desk
03:10.06WallyIt's 6AM in moscow
03:10.28SuperRoachGet the elvish guys instead
03:10.34Wally:P
03:12.20StainyNight all
03:17.10WallySuperRoach https://i.imgur.com/wAoaP0D.png
03:43.13Wally<pyra
03:43.13phanboetTotal preorders: 710 [497 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 698x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 135, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 358}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 05:30:15 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
03:43.19Wallytake that halosghost
03:46.24halosghostWally: :P
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04:04.09luke-jrWally: exagear is proprietary? why are people not just using qemu?>
04:04.31Wallyexagear is pretty fast.. Qemu is not
04:04.35luke-jro rly
04:05.02warshho ho ho
04:05.53luke-jrare you comparing to qemu-system or qemu-user?
04:06.18luke-jrExagear's description of their performance benefits sounds like simply qemu-user
04:06.20Wally*shrug*. I've not really played with Qemu. _aegis_ did the benchmarks though
04:06.44halosghostreally? I didn't know there were benchmarks
04:06.55halosghostI haven't yet purchased exagear, but it's been on my watch list
04:07.01halosghostI'd be very interested to see the benchmarks
04:08.20warsh<PROTECTED>
04:17.06Wallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkoCBbl7w0g
04:17.28WallyLook how excited _wb_ is lol
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04:43.21SuperRoachHaha
04:43.25SuperRoachNice find
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06:09.46WallyCan't wait for this DBP project to die.
06:12.05WallyIt's getting too big
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06:28.19Wallyhi ladvan91|45793
06:30.55ladvan91|8385Hi +Wally
06:34.47Wallyhow are you ladvan91|8385?
06:36.43ladvan91|8385thanks, i'm working now. And you?
06:37.49WallyOh the irony, on the train home
06:45.17B-ZaRare you an experienced trainer?
06:45.29undexsym<PROTECTED>
06:45.43B-ZaRdeus vult
06:45.45WallyB-ZaR, basically yeah.
06:45.51WallyALthough undexsym probably does more trains than I do
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06:48.48WallyI use the trains to copy crap to SD cards
06:50.54undexsymI use the trains to improve my immune system
06:51.59Wallysleeping?
06:52.17Wallyhahaha
06:52.19WallyI see what you mean
06:53.52B-ZaRtrain that immune system
06:54.02B-ZaRI'm train to stop
07:01.07BlueMaximaso if you get a cold, does that mean you're...derailed?
07:02.41undexsymoh boy
07:05.08B-ZaRBlueMaxima: yes, you're on track now
07:06.24BlueMaximagood to see I'm on the right train of thought
07:12.10WallyBlueMaxima are you fit to be a dad?
07:12.12Pangolinvomits.
07:12.29BlueMaximaProbably not :P
07:12.30Wallyit's like you're a dad in training
07:13.57BlueMaximayou know what I wish I could be
07:14.02BlueMaximaA Pandora owner! >___>
07:15.27Wallyheh
07:17.04BlueMaximadammit wally
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07:35.41Cloudef<pyra
07:35.42phanboetTotal preorders: 710 [497 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 698x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 135, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 358}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 09:30:19 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
07:35.49CloudefThe number hasn't moved at all
07:35.55CloudefI have to order 10 more
07:37.44buZzgo for it
07:39.39Wallyyay
07:40.10lukeyOnly 7500€
07:40.32lukeyMore like >8000€
07:42.35B-ZaRCloudef: beowulf cluster of pyras?
07:43.03lukeyDonate it as Build-Farm to pitsebt
07:45.08CloudefB-ZaR: yes
07:45.55B-ZaRbuy them as development units for a pyra software startup
07:46.11buZzbeowulf :P
07:46.17buZzdo ppl still actually use that? :D
07:46.19B-ZaRno idea
07:46.26B-ZaRold slashdot meme
07:47.05lukeyIf MOSIX was only open Source
08:07.12Wallyyeah go on Cloudef
08:07.20WallyPyra REnder farm
08:08.14WallyIf ptitseb needed help with desktop files I can do that ;)
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08:25.04warshI recently discovered the difference between xz and pxz
08:25.10warshfantastic!!
08:34.16Wallyyayy the exagear guy replied
08:34.54B-ZaRwhat did you ask?
08:35.04B-ZaRteh difference to qemu-user+wine?
08:35.23lukeyOptimized Build?
08:37.32WallyI asked them about my license activation crap
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08:38.45B-ZaRhow was your licence activation crap?
08:38.51WallyNo response yet
08:39.10B-ZaRso unresponsive
08:39.31lukeyunplayable
08:42.49buZzwut
08:42.53buZzexagear isnt foss?
08:43.40Wallyno it's the handy work of mad russians
08:44.09slaeshjagWho are they mad at?
08:44.23lukeywindows
08:44.31WallyThe guy just said hi
08:44.42Wallyslaeshjag *crazy
08:45.30warshvodka
08:45.33warshblyat
08:46.55lukey<pyra
08:46.55phanboetTotal preorders: 710 [497 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 698x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 135, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 358}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 10:45:17 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
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13:25.53Pangolin<pyra
13:25.53phanboetTotal preorders: 710 [497 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 698x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 135, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 358}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 15:15:15 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
13:28.13aTcdid get that hakko soldering station instead of a new heating element for my old 50w 937 clone one... and it's loads better
13:29.03Elw3How can a soldering station be different?
13:29.04klopsi-u3it's been like a day at 710 right
13:29.10aTcwell, it should be for twice the price.. but it heats up a lot faster, and has far less problems when doing large parts or heatsinks
13:29.37Elw3Mine always looses the head...
13:30.01aTcit's mostly much better at keeping the temperature stable
13:33.54Elw3Hehe, probably i am horrible at soldering...
13:34.04Elw3I just dont care about temp.
13:34.08aTcnah, blame the tools :)
13:34.48aTcalthough my soldering improved loads after watching the eevblog tutorial on soldering
13:36.30aTcmostly thanks to switching to a chisel tip, and 0.5mm solder
13:38.28comradekinguElw3: if the tip falls off there is very little you can do
13:39.11urjamanlol
13:39.18urjamanend-of-life :P
13:39.22Elw3I touched it gently with a hammer.
13:39.31Elw3Seems to hold for now.
13:40.00Elw3I use it more for plastic cutting than soldering anyway.
13:40.45urjamanbut i feel like i'm missing the start ... ah aTc
13:40.57urjaman(of this converstion that was)
13:42.06urjamani just got a really cheap 200W essentially "gun"-type "iron" for work on bigger wires, and yeah it works on bigger wires, but not as big as i wanted...
13:42.32urjaman(seems i'll need a torch...)
13:42.40slaeshjagurjaman: It's not a real soldering iron if it doesn't come with a 3 phase plug
13:43.07urjamanlol
13:44.58urjamandoes manage to heat the element red hot sometimes :P (if you're working with one edge of the loop, the other edge might go glowy), so i guess it's more of a contact problem at this scale (=>torch)
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14:32.28gruetzko-Some cabling wants to be soldered with the 2kW torch :D
14:42.53urjamanElw3: btw, a soldering station is better even for plastic cutting :P, you can set the temperature so you dont burn the plastic that easily
14:43.23Elw3Thanks captain obvious.
14:43.23infobotsure thing, Elw3
14:43.25aTcor you can pay a crapload extra and get a dedicated plastic cutter
14:44.23urjamanyeah, i just thought it was a bit bizarre to go "i dont care about your fancy temp control since i *do a thing that would benefit from temp control*"
14:44.39aTchttps://youtu.be/5bWEiyx6Bns?t=569
14:47.37urjamancool (muted btw...)
14:48.05aTcyeah, until you find out how much they want for that thing
14:48.29urjaman400 ? not sure if youtube autocaptions did it right
14:49.28aTc$114.99
14:50.00urjamanokay i dunno what he was talking about them :P
14:50.02urjaman*then
14:50.10aTcfor something that looks like a crappy $15 soldering iron
14:50.27aTcwhich it probably was, and they just marketed it for plastic melting :)
14:50.43urjamanthe blades might be nice for an iron :P
14:52.40urjamanor, the bladey tips i mean, anyways...
14:52.49urjaman(i guess one can find those
14:52.53aTceasily
14:58.41urjamani dont actually cut plastic with my irons that often, but i do use the WHS 40 in the lowest temp setting to shrink those heatshrink things, and not with the tip but just the blade in general
14:58.53urjamanumm... shaft?
14:59.00urjamanwhatever, heating thing ...
15:02.04TrashyMG|Workurjaman, I use my expensive hot air reflow tool for mostly heatshrink things. I need to justify using it outside my once a year SMD projects.
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15:39.47Klumpengood evening, chaps
15:45.54lukeyhi
15:50.13lukey<pyra
15:50.13phanboetTotal preorders: 710 [497 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 698x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 135, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 358}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 17:45:13 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
15:52.22Klumpen<pick Pyra or GPD-Win
15:52.22phanboetKlumpen: GPD-Win
15:52.36Klumpentr8tr
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16:00.32andrey_utkinhow much power Pyra can provide via USB port? E.g. at which threshold one must add active USB hub?
16:01.02andrey_utkini wonder if it is capable to power a cdma modem dongle
16:01.51lukeyat least 500mA i guess
16:01.56lukeylike the Pandora
16:02.00Klumpen1.21GW
16:02.05lukeywhere cdma
16:02.14lukeymodems also worked
16:02.59lukeyKlumpen, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5cYgRnfFDA
16:04.18Klumpen;)
16:04.49andrey_utkincool. i hope it's enough also for external hdds
16:07.45Klumpenlukekey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4LI_EqnJq8
16:16.30lukeylol
16:18.48Klumpen<day
16:18.48phanboetKlumpen: Wednesday 2016-05-25, week 21
16:20.14lukeyat least more acurate than StarTrek
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16:44.03dTal"Don't look at me, I'm an interpreter. I'm not supposed to know a power socket from a computer terminal."
16:44.15dTalexcept nowadays they are the same!
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17:14.32PangolinI'm tired of the preorder count not going up. ;)
17:14.40PangolinPreorder++
17:15.05lukeyupvar Preorder
17:15.42GodGinraiPangolin: this is what I was afraid of happening, due to not enough publicity :(
17:15.45lukey<pyra
17:15.45phanboetTotal preorders: 711 [498 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 699x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 358}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 19:15:14 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
17:16.02lukeyooh one Preorder more
17:16.18Pangolinit was me
17:16.58lukeys/711/3000/
17:17.02PangolinI tend to research a great deal before making purchases.
17:17.07andrey_utkini'm promoting subj today to friends, and also in big irc and xmpp chatrooms :)
17:17.18Pangolinlukey: ???
17:17.29lukeysed/ed command
17:17.44luke-jrTotal preorders: 711 [498 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 699x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 358} @ 2016-05-25 17:17:44 UTC
17:18.01lukeysearch and replace
17:20.08andrey_utkinwhat's time deadline until the batch will go into production anyway?
17:20.45lukeydunno
17:20.54TrashyMG|Workdepends on ED mood... if he waits for the 900 orders to make a batch of 1000 or he decides to split it into two runs of 500.
17:23.40TrashyMG|WorkI think he may be waiting to see how the final sample of cases comes out, and I think he's still waiting on the redesigned Keymats.
17:24.02lukeySome on the Forum mentioned that they do not yet have the money to make an preorder, so I think ED waits a bit longer before closing the Preorders. But scince we have the minimum number of Preorders to start the Production allready, ED can allready Order some Parts
17:24.21klopsi-u31 preorder today
17:24.22klopsi-u3:(
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17:26.46TrashyMG|Worklukey, ED said he had enough now to start a batch.
17:27.06TrashyMG|WorkED will be in the hole even if he sells 1500 Pyras
17:27.22lukeyhole?
17:27.28TrashyMG|WorkIn debt.
17:27.33TrashyMG|Workno profit.
17:27.44lukeysaddly
17:28.00lukeyAt least he gets a Pyra
17:30.55lukeyI wonder if we got so many preorders to lower the Price if we lowered the Price.
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17:34.37TrashyMG|WorkWhy can't I work with Vanilla wafers instead of the silicon variety.
17:34.38buZzyeah TrashyMG|Work
17:34.43buZzuntil he sells 3000 pyras
17:34.44buZzafaik
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17:38.16TrashyMG|WorkI guess it's hard to put circuitry on vanilla wafers.
17:40.18lukeymaybe with carbon
17:45.53TrashyMG|WorkI guess if taste isn't a factor.
17:47.58lukeyNow i have an idea for an future CPU Board
17:53.21GodGinrailukey: hrm?
17:56.10lukeyI mean materials for one
17:57.33TrashyMG|Workkeep up with the conversation.
17:57.55aTci hope it's a kit
17:57.58aTci need something to solder
17:59.13lukeySadly Chocolate doesn't conduct
17:59.32aTceverything conducts if you apply enough voltage
17:59.36GodGinrailol
18:00.55lukeyI think air is an better conductor then Chocolate
18:01.41aTchttp://deltacnt.com/99-00032.htm
18:01.44aTcwtf, it's even on the list
18:04.14aTcseems chocolate is better
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18:05.42lukeyI'm thinking of making small vacoum bubbles inside the Chocolate and then Produce small Tubes out of them
18:06.09lukeyBut i think the filament heating will melt the Chocolate
18:06.14lukeyso Watercooling
18:08.49lukeyrevolutionary
18:12.33TrashyMG|Workthey could up the salt content of the chocolate to become a better conductor.
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18:28.11Klumpensalty chocolate is a perversion I got gifted once
18:28.46Klumpenit had chunks of hail salt in it
18:31.26klopsi-u3lol
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18:32.06lukeyPrice?
18:34.00Klumpendon't know
18:34.04Klumpenlooked expensive
18:34.04luke-jrTotal preorders: 712 [499 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 700x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 359} @ 2016-05-25 18:34:03 UTC
18:35.29GodGinraihail salt?
18:35.53GodGinrailol, a whole 12 2GB orders
18:36.10Klumpenhttps://www.lebensmittellexikon.de/bilder/h000144a.jpg
18:36.50GodGinraiED's gonna have a lot of leftover 512MB chips, assuming nothing goes wrong w/ the 4GB setup
18:37.42lukeyI think he will buy them as Samples without MOQ
18:37.50KlumpenI thought he just wanted to populate two 1GB chips on the 2gb versions
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18:44.50TrashyMG|WorkKlumpen, not sure if that is better or worse than the Tabasco infused chocolate I got as a Christmas present.
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18:48.48vifinoI wonder how big of an FPGA one could put on a Pyra CPU board. Given a big enough size, many different things would be possible, including a RISC-V thing.
18:53.06KlumpenI got chili chocolate once, not my thing but not nearly as perverted. The chili gummi bears were the worst thing yet, I wonder why my brothers used to gift me this crap, I'm happy that they don't gift me anything anymore tbh.
18:53.22GodGinraivifino: are FPGAs even efficient enough yet that they would be worth putting in a Pyra?
18:55.00vifinoGodGinrai: Not quite sure, but there are quite a few small FPGA's, even if you wouldn't be able to program say a RISC-V core on it, but a retro system representation for sure.
18:55.18vifinoThink Atari emulation without emulation.
18:55.29GodGinraiIf small enough, powerful enough FPGAs existed, I think it would be really neat to have a CPU board that had an SoC, and then some number of FPGAs also on the board, connected to the SoC so that one can program them to act like hardware in emulated devices, and change the hardware they act as based on the emulator.
18:55.34lukeyAnd some interesting hardware aceleration
18:55.34vifinoCycle accurate emulation is quite cool.
19:02.00Klumpenwhat's the current status of Pyra's 3D drivers?
19:02.28lukeyPrototypes dispached
19:03.00Klumpenso Grench gets his prototype soon and will start trolling us?
19:03.40lukeyJeah with "Send from my Pyra using Fingers"
19:03.47Klumpenhaha
19:07.28KlumpenIji needs a Linux/Pandora/Pyra port, awesome game http://www.remar.se/daniel/iji.php
19:08.04GodGinraioh really? prototypes have been sent out?  How come EvilDragon didn't make a news post about that?
19:08.11GodGinraiI would think that's pretty newsworthy
19:08.15Klumpenoh, there's even source http://www.remar.se/daniel/resources.php
19:08.46GodGinraiKlumpen: Game Maker, not happening
19:08.51urjamanGodGinrai: not the official first 10 whatever..
19:08.52Klumpen:(
19:08.59urjamanatleast i think he'd post about that
19:09.08GodGinraiurjaman: what do you mean?
19:09.16urjamani think it was like < 10 dev devices for devs
19:09.29urjamanthat he mentioned here way way back...
19:09.45urjamanlike for somebody from TI ...
19:09.48urjamanetc
19:10.04urjamanbut i hadnt heard of them being actually sent
19:10.10urjamanso wut are you abou t:P
19:10.32GodGinraiurjaman: ok, I'm still not getting what you mean.  Who are the ones that lukey said have been sent intended for?
19:11.15urjamannot sure what he meant realy
19:11.32GodGinraiah
19:11.38GodGinrailukey: explain yourself
19:13.00urjamanbut anyways, there was (last month maybe?) talk of a batch of 10 i think, of which 8 would be hopefully functional, which would be sent to people who actually need one (hns, ED, somebody from TI, maybe some other devs)
19:13.05lukeyWell at least HNS and ED have one
19:13.09lukey:P
19:13.34GodGinrailukey: that was already the case.  Damnit you got my hopes up
19:13.36urjamanlukey: at that time, hns and ED actually shared a device :P
19:13.55lukeyBut i think that the Cases for the rest of the Prototypes are missing as HNS's doesn't have an Lid
19:14.33TrashyMG|WorkaTc,notaz and _aegis are getting prototypes as well.
19:14.58TrashyMG|Worknot sure about the other two out of the 8.
19:15.14GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: yes, but "getting prototypes" and "they are currently on their way" are not the same thing
19:15.16TrashyMG|Workmaybe extras for hns and ED to play with.
19:15.31TrashyMG|WorkGodGinrai, far as I know Notaz may already have one.
19:15.47GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: lukey said "prototypes dispatched", which lead me to believe they had been sent out to the key devs
19:15.50aTcafaik, i don't
19:16.08aTcbut i guess the os isn't that important :)
19:16.11lukeyI wonder why the Guy from the OMAP5 Team doesn't have an Devboard(Or maybe he does?)
19:16.27lukeyso he could allready work on the Driver
19:16.37GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: if notaz has one, then my point earlier stands.  Why did EvilDragon not make a news post about it?  any of the key devs getting a prototype is pretty newsworthy, IMO.
19:17.15lukeyNDA
19:17.18aTcbecause then people want to know why nothing works yet
19:17.19TrashyMG|Worklukey, the Ti guy does have a devboard, but you can't debug LCD timing issues and pyra specific quirks on the devboard.
19:17.27GodGinrailukey: because he's probably leveraging his services in exchange for a free Pyra
19:17.59lukeyTrashyMG|Work, i thought  the 3D Chip just writes to the Framebuffer
19:18.10GodGinraiaTc: You don't even have a prototype and people still want to know why nothing works yet.
19:18.12aTcyes, $600 worth of hardware will get you at least a few hours of work
19:20.09TrashyMG|Worklukey, there is no 3D chip the PowerVR is built into the SoC. The MIPI LCD interface is a bit bizarre with the rotator chip. Also there is a bit of things we're doing differently than Ti's expected use cases.
19:20.27aTcTI's expected use case is not using it at all
19:20.41urjamanyeah, we're the unexpected "using an omap5" :P
19:21.03TrashyMG|Workyeah I get the feeling they're wondering WTF we are using it.
19:21.44lukeyWe shoud have used an Single Transistor
19:21.45GodGinraiIt's funny
19:22.00KlumpenWhere's the OMAP5 used atm? Cars?
19:22.09GodGinraiover in #webos-ports, I see people lamenting about the fact that the Pre 3 used a buggy qualcomm chip *instead* of an OMAP
19:22.22aTcit's not used anywhere, other than a few devboards
19:22.27GodGinraiand over here, I see people talking about how we're the only people using an OMAP XD
19:22.48TrashyMG|Worklukey, could just use two diodes for an AND gate.
19:22.50urjamanGodGinrai: _OMAP5_ to be exact
19:22.59GodGinraiurjaman: true
19:23.16GodGinraiurjaman: but that tends to happen when a company announces that they aren't making any more
19:23.19urjaman(OMAP3 is old, kinda popular, and well.. old)
19:23.21TrashyMG|Worklukey, well and a resistor.
19:23.32GodGinraiurjaman: because you generally expect little support
19:23.58lukeyTrashyMG|Work, the Battery Chip should be able to limit the Current
19:24.07lukeyto the CPU Board
19:25.14aTcthere's a soc a bit like it that's used in a few more places, the am57xx
19:25.23urjamanyeah i'm thinking they made a batch of them (big enough that its a lot for us, small enough that it'd be "a few prototypes" (like N950) for phones) and they're using us to get rid of some of them...
19:27.00TrashyMG|WorkaTc, yeah I kind of wanted to get a beagleboard X15, but they never seem to have them available.
19:27.52GodGinraiaTc: that actually looks pretty impressive.
19:28.04Klumpenmaking Pyra modular may be the best decision of them all considering how some lines of socs simply seem to end (like the atom as well)
19:29.01GodGinraiaTc: I kind of wish we had gotten this instead of the OMAP 5.  Those dual SGX's.
19:29.02Klumpen*dreams of having a Pyra with current specs in 2022*
19:29.22Klumpenupgrades are awesome
19:29.49aTcit doesn't really help that you can now get $10 boards that are faster than it
19:30.37TrashyMG|Workwere are these $10 boards?
19:30.43aTcwell, when counting multiple cores.. single core performance is still slightly better
19:31.50aTchttp://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Orange-Pi-One-ubuntu-linux-and-android-mini-PC-Beyond-and-Compatible-with-Raspberry-Pi-2/1553371_32603308880.html
19:31.52aTcwhere else
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19:31.59RaeCarruthgreetings
19:32.13GodGinraimorning RaeCarruth
19:32.23aTcwas an eevblog video on it yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEyU1zSqFwU
19:32.32aTcso it's probably impossible to get now :)
19:32.45lukeyWhich SoC
19:32.49lukey?
19:32.59TrashyMG|WorkaTc, I highly doubt that could beat the OMAP5.
19:33.04RaeCarruththis guys voice...
19:33.11RaeCarruthis he drunk?
19:33.12aTcallwinner h3
19:33.16aTcno, australian
19:33.22RaeCarruthsame thing isn't it?
19:34.10aTchttp://linux-sunxi.org/File:Allwinner_H3_Datasheet_V1.2.pdf
19:34.16TrashyMG|Workat least processing wise, can't claim anything on GPU power.
19:34.18aTcfull datasheet for the thing
19:35.03aTcomap5432 cores are about twice as fast as a single h3 core though
19:35.13aTcone 5432 core...
19:36.01aTch3 ram speed is slightly faster though
19:36.39aTchttp://www.orangepi.org/orangepione/
19:36.53TrashyMG|WorkAre these some special cortex-A7 cores?
19:37.13aTcdon't think so
19:37.22TrashyMG|Workbecause I thought the Pandora can edge out the A7s
19:37.40GodGinrailooking at TI's different SoCs
19:37.51GodGinraiI can tell that TI is a big fan of the M4 for some reason
19:38.08Klumpenwhat's the M4 used for in other devices?
19:38.32GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: A7's are basically tuned A8's, from what I've been made aware
19:38.47GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: better power consumption, and slightly better performance
19:39.02TrashyMG|Workreally I thought they were the old tech...
19:39.14GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: nah, A7's are newer than the A8
19:39.25TrashyMG|Workbecause that makes sense.
19:39.28Klumpendafuq
19:39.42GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: ikr?
19:40.02GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: here's an excerpt from the wikipedia article: "It has two target applications; firstly as a smaller, simpler, and more power-efficient successor to the Cortex-A8."
19:40.33GodGinraiand in case you wanted the second application: "The other use is in the big.LITTLE architecture, combining one or more A7 cores with one or more Cortex-A15 cores into a heterogeneous system.[1] To do this it is fully feature-compatible with the A15."
19:42.33TrashyMG|Workat least I learned something today.
19:43.00GodGinraiI really hope we manage to get a big.LITTLE SoC when we upgrade the CPU board, since we didn't get one this time.
19:43.20TrashyMG|Workthe H3 is little.little?
19:43.35TrashyMG|Workor would that be LITTLE.LITTLE...
19:44.00GodGinraiTrashyMG|Work: it's not the number of processor cores, but how they are used.
19:44.12TrashyMG|Workyou know I'm just being a wise ass.
19:44.17GodGinrailol I figured
19:44.35lukey<pyra
19:44.35phanboetTotal preorders: 712 [499 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 700x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 359}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 21:30:15 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
19:48.48GodGinraiI'm also hoping that whatever the next chip is, it uses either A17s or A57s
19:49.50halosghostGodGinrai: 57 is 64-bit, right?
19:50.38GodGinraihalosghost: indeed
19:51.11halosghostthat would be quite fancy
19:52.08aTceven a rpi3 has 64 bit, it's nothing fancy
19:52.12GodGinraiindeed.  The device could even include a built-in monacle
19:52.19halosghostGodGinrai: lol
19:52.19GodGinrai;P
19:52.38valhallathe rpi3 is 64bit, but afaik it's not officially supported
19:52.40halosghostaTc: fancy enough that it's less fractured as a platform (on ARM), at least for now
19:53.08aTcfacny enough that noone is using it
19:53.11halosghostlol
19:54.38GodGinraiaTc: just like the OMAP5.  Sounds like perfect Pyra material
19:55.32lukeyLets just use the unused 64Bit leftovers
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20:00.11phanboetKlumpen: Current Unix time is: 1464206411
20:00.26halosghost<🐼
20:00.35halosghostphanboet: boring
20:01.31Klumpen<pick Pyra or GPD-Win
20:01.31phanboetKlumpen: GPD-Win
20:01.43Klumpen-.-°
20:02.14Klumpen<I hate you
20:03.20Elw3<pick Klumpen or turd
20:03.20phanboetElw3: turd
20:03.30Klumpen?!
20:03.30Elw3Turd > Klumpen
20:03.41lukeyHe hates you
20:03.41Elw3Even the bot says so.
20:03.45halosghostphanboet has some weird things
20:04.09Elw3<pick Klumpen or lukey or Elw3 or Wally or phanboet
20:04.09phanboetElw3: lukey
20:04.17Klumpen<pick Elw3 or turd
20:04.17phanboetKlumpen: turd
20:04.28Elw3...
20:04.28Klumpenhe loves turds
20:04.32lukeyHe is sick from the all the Pyra Chat
20:04.34Elw3<pick Klumpen or lukey or Elw3 or Wally or phanboet or turd
20:04.35phanboetElw3: phanboet
20:04.42Elw3Aha.
20:04.42Klumpenhaha
20:04.48Klumpenselfish bot
20:05.06Klumpenjust like a real human
20:05.17lukey<wa number of selfish persons
20:05.22phanboetlukey: WA Query failed: WA didn't have an answer
20:05.39halosghost<pick fun things and 🐼
20:05.39Klumpen<wa 42
20:05.39phanboethalosghost: Pick what? Your nose? Usage: <pick arg1 or arg2 or ...
20:05.42phanboetKlumpen: WA: 42 ;; URL: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%34%32
20:05.42Elw3<pick phanboet or turd or klumpens mum
20:05.42phanboetElw3: phanboet
20:05.53halosghostphanboet: why don't you understand boolean and?
20:06.00halosghostsosilleh
20:06.17Elw3<pick my penis
20:06.17phanboetElw3: Pick what? Your nose? Usage: <pick arg1 or arg2 or ...
20:06.36Elw3<pick my penis or a turd
20:06.36phanboetElw3: a turd
20:06.48Elw3>.>
20:06.52KlumpenxD
20:07.09Elw3<pick or or ores
20:07.09phanboetElw3: ores
20:07.12Klumpen<pick nose or ass
20:07.13phanboetKlumpen: ass
20:07.54lukey< wa average ass weight
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20:08.02phanboetlukey: WA Query failed: WA didn't have an answer
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20:08.39phanboetTotal preorders: 712 [499 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 700x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 359}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 22:00:16 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
20:08.40Elw3<wa IQ of lukey
20:08.41phanboetElw3: WA Query failed: WA didn't have an answer
20:09.01lukey<wa IQ of the average human
20:09.03phanboetlukey: WA Query failed: WA didn't have an answer
20:09.10lukey<wa IQ
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20:09.43lukey<wa Human EQ
20:09.47phanboetlukey: WA: human body characteristics ;; URL: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%48%75%6D%61%6E%20%45%51
20:09.52Elw3<wa 80 jigawatts / 12 hamburgers
20:09.54phanboetElw3: WA Query failed: WA didn't have an answer
20:10.09lukey<wa energy of an apple
20:10.16phanboetlukey: WA: 91 Cal  (dietary Calories) ;; URL: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%65%6E%65%72%67%79%20%6F%66%20%61%6E%20%61%70%70%6C%65
20:10.25Elw3<wa difference of a duck
20:10.26lukey<wa energy of an human
20:10.27phanboetElw3: WA Query failed: WA didn't have an answer
20:10.28phanboetlukey: WA: kinetic energy | 3.102 kJ  (kilojoules) = 0.8616 W h  (watt hours) = 1.936×10^22 eV  (electronvolts) ;; URL: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%65%6E%65%72%67%79%20%6F%66%20%61%6E%20%68%75%6D%61%6E
20:10.45lukey<wa  3.102 kJ in Cal
20:10.47phanboetlukey: WA: 0.741 Cal  (dietary Calories) ;; URL: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%33%2E%31%30%32%20%6B%4A%20%69%6E%20%43%61%6C
20:10.57lukeyoh
20:11.22halosghost.c 7 ^ 2000
20:11.23phanboetInvalid expression -1
20:11.25halosghostawww
20:11.42Elw3<help
20:11.43phanboetElw3: Sending help in query
20:11.48lukey<help
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20:12.07lukeyAww
20:12.09halosghostlol
20:13.10Klumpen<pick Hitler or Gandhi
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20:13.30TrashyMG|Workpoor phanboet he's dead.
20:13.33Klumpen:(
20:13.39TrashyMG|Workor she.. gender unknown.
20:13.41lukey~help
20:14.10lukey~dice
20:14.18TrashyMG|WorkDEAD...
20:14.34lukey~dice 5
20:15.03Klumpenphanboet, noooooooOOOo
20:15.51GodGinraiwait
20:15.54GodGinraiExcess Flood?
20:16.14GodGinraihow was that flooding?
20:16.25TrashyMG|Workflooded with Excess, living life to the fullest. Hedonistic robot.
20:16.43undexsymit has just been many years but I just realised how similar evangelion and starcraft are
20:16.51undexsymalmost the same back story
20:17.02lukey<pyra
20:17.08lukeyNOOOOO
20:17.44lukey~rot13 fuck this shit
20:17.44infobotshpx guvf fuvg
20:18.01TrashyMG|Workundexsym, it goes from a coherent story line to a weird in coherent story?
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20:18.06slaeshjaggood job
20:18.28TrashyMG|Work*incoherent
20:18.44lukey:I
20:18.55Klumpenmost people still don't notice that Cameron's Avatar and Pocahontas are the same story
20:19.23TrashyMG|Workalso Dances with Wolves...
20:19.39slaeshjagexciting, it doesn't want to join anything anymore
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20:20.02TrashyMG|WorkI watched it hoping to see some Air or water bending, but all I got was smurfs version of Dances with Wolves.
20:20.08undexsymTrashyMG|Work, well yeah, but they both have the whole "amazing space aliens create powerful creatures and smart creatures and then they fight"
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20:20.29lukeyslaeshjag, Now try to kill infobot too
20:20.38Klumpenslaeshjag: great, we managed to give a bot a depression
20:20.38lukey<pyra
20:20.39phanboetTotal preorders: 712 [499 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 700x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 359}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 22:15:13 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
20:20.48Klumpen<pick Hitler or Gandhi
20:20.48phanboetKlumpen: Gandhi
20:20.49undexsymangels == zerg, humans == protoss
20:20.52lukeydepressing preorders
20:21.39GodGinraiundexsym: then what were starcraft's humans?
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20:22.03Klumpen<pick phanboet or Tay
20:22.03phanboetKlumpen: phanboet
20:22.48TrashyMG|Work<pick vim or emacs
20:22.48phanboetTrashyMG|Work: emacs
20:22.56TrashyMG|WorkI disagree phanboet...
20:22.59halosghostlol
20:23.14halosghost<pick wretched humans or vile zombies
20:23.15phanboethalosghost: vile zombies
20:23.16undexsymGodGinrai, that's where the comparison breaks down
20:23.18halosghostunderstandable
20:23.21halosghostthe zombies always win
20:23.25Elw3<tell Elw2 penis
20:23.25phanboetElw3: Mkay, I'll pass that on to Elw2
20:23.34Klumpen<pick GPD-Win or Pyra
20:23.35phanboetKlumpen: Pyra
20:23.45undexsymwhat's the story behind terran anyway?
20:23.48Elw3Not working
20:23.51GodGinrai<pick Elw2 or Elw3
20:23.52phanboetGodGinrai: Elw3
20:23.55Klumpenit always takes the second choice
20:24.02slaeshjagnot always
20:24.07slaeshjag<pick arne or doris
20:24.08phanboetslaeshjag: arne
20:24.08Klumpen<pick Gandhi or Stalin
20:24.08phanboetKlumpen: Gandhi
20:24.11Klumpenhmm
20:24.21TrashyMG|Workundexsym, some chick gets a bad Zerg STD.
20:24.27GodGinrailol I think slaeshjag has a setting he can toggle XD
20:24.40slaeshjagNah, but there are some other things...
20:24.41slaeshjagwat
20:24.43halosghost<pick first or second or third
20:24.43slaeshjagoh
20:24.43phanboethalosghost: first
20:24.45slaeshjagI broke it
20:24.59Klumpen<pick second or third or first
20:24.59phanboetKlumpen: third
20:25.02halosghostslaeshjag: allan broke it
20:25.12comradekinguneeeei
20:25.12halosghostKlumpen: that's just mean
20:25.15Klumpen:D
20:25.52GodGinraihalosghost: he always finds a way
20:26.07halosghost<pick red or orange
20:26.07phanboethalosghost: red
20:26.14halosghostphanboet: y u no support color?
20:26.19halosghostphanboet is a silleh boet
20:26.33GodGinrai<pick red or ange
20:26.33phanboetGodGinrai: ange
20:26.37GodGinrai:P
20:26.38lukey~rot13 pyra
20:26.38infobotclen
20:26.48lukeyalso an goof name
20:26.51lukey<clen
20:26.58lukeygood*
20:27.01slaeshjag<strlen ª®n€
20:27.01phanboetslaeshjag: 8
20:27.12Klumpen<pick Black Pyra or Pink Pyra
20:27.12phanboetKlumpen: Black Pyra
20:27.15GodGinrailukey: indeed, clen is a goofy name
20:27.15lukeyUTF-16
20:27.23slaeshjag<utf8 ª®n€
20:27.23phanboetslaeshjag: Message is valid UTF-8
20:27.31halosghost<strlen 🐼
20:27.31phanboethalosghost: 4
20:28.04lukey<strlen
20:28.10lukey<strlen ll
20:28.11phanboetlukey: 2
20:28.13Klumpen<pick 卐 or ☭
20:28.14phanboetKlumpen: ☭
20:28.14halosghost<strlen "\0"
20:28.15phanboethalosghost: 4
20:28.22halosghostphanboet: you're no fun
20:28.37Neelix<strlen привет
20:28.37phanboetNeelix: 12
20:29.00Klumpen<pick 卐 or ☭ or ☮
20:29.01phanboetKlumpen: ☮
20:29.13lukeyMost entertaining IRC Bot Evar
20:29.16halosghostputs a flower in phanboet's gun
20:29.16TrashyMG|WorkWell I could watch you guys harass phanboet all day, but going home.
20:29.24halosghostTrashyMG|Work: o/
20:30.03GodGinraiwow, didn't realize there was unicode for the hammer and sicle
20:30.03Klumpenaww, it's a hippiebot
20:30.08GodGinraithat's pretty badass
20:30.20halosghostGodGinrai: your face is pretty badass
20:30.27GodGinraihalosghost: why thank you
20:30.30Klumpenyour mum something something
20:30.31halosghostyou're welcome
20:31.08Klumpen<pick ☁  or ☄ or ⚡ or ☔ or ☃ or☼
20:31.08phanboetKlumpen: ☔
20:31.41lukeydammit
20:32.13Tachyon`whoa, activity
20:32.14Klumpena hippiebot that likes gandhi and the rain, cute
20:32.40Klumpenhugs phanboet
20:33.25KlumpenI bet he is just a sockpuppet
20:33.58Klumpenlets make it harder
20:34.00Klumpen<pick Adolf or Hitler
20:34.01phanboetKlumpen: Adolf
20:34.16Klumpenyou're not making this easy
20:34.20GodGinrailol
20:34.20comradekinguYou would need a bigger sample to tell if there is a preference
20:36.19Klumpenwe need the last version of Tay's A.I. before they killed her
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20:42.44comradekinguAnother one of those MS technologies i can do without
20:43.02Klumpenit ended pretty hilarious though
20:46.08GodGinraislaeshjag: hey, about DBPs... are we still using unionfs?  Or does it use overlayfs now?
20:46.35GodGinraior wait... did the pnd system use aufs for the union?
20:47.07slaeshjagGodGinrai: still using aufs
20:47.33slaeshjagGodGinrai: overlayfs doesn't work well when merging filesystems from both ext and fat
20:50.42GodGinraiI see
20:51.42klopsi-u3i sexually identify as a pork uterus fajita
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20:52.27Elw3We know that you are a pig. You dont have to say every few minutes.
20:54.34lukeyOn that Bot thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnzlbyTZsQY
20:57.57GodGinraiWally: I noticed in the AppImage topic, you mentioned about how people should read the wiki.  From what I can tell... the wiki has startlingly little information on dbp aside from links to the forums.
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21:10.42Klumpenlukey: oh dear, they are trolling each other
21:12.18lukey~help
21:12.29klopsi-u3i just found out EU regulations limit camers to 30 minutes recording time
21:12.40klopsi-u3cameras
21:13.22klopsi-u3more than 30 minutes, it gets taxed as a camcorder
21:14.06lukey~reply <pyra
21:14.06infobot<pyra
21:14.06phanboetTotal preorders: 712 [499 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 700x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 359}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-25 23:00:19 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
21:14.34lukey~reply ~reply
21:14.34infobot~reply
21:14.48KlumpenEU also regulates the size of potatoes and the bending of cucumbers on the market, it's what they do and seem to be existing these days
21:14.50lukey~reply ~reply ~reply
21:14.50infobot~reply ~reply
21:15.12Klumpenexistng for
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21:18.38lukey<help
21:18.39phanboetlukey: Sending help in query
21:19.46lukey~tell phanboet about <tell infobot tell lukey lol
21:19.54lukeyIt worked
21:20.04Klumpen:D
21:21.16WallyGodGinrai, you should fix that ;)
21:21.39WallyHmm new exagear update.
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21:23.12GodGinraiI'm still fuzzy on what exagear is.  Is it a runtime?  A recompiler?
21:23.33lukeyimproved qemu-user
21:23.51aTcclosed source crap
21:25.29GodGinraiaTc: closed source maybe, but from what I've been hearing it makes possible, it is hardly crap
21:25.43WallyIt's a Virtual machine GodGinrai.
21:25.56GodGinraiWally: ah, I see
21:26.14WallyThe new update enables game support sub 2000 for some things
21:26.30WallyThey've done some wine hacks. I hope they're contributing it back to the source.
21:26.41GodGinraisub 2000?  Do you mean "games from the early 2000s"?
21:26.47Wallyyeah
21:26.50GodGinraik
21:27.01GodGinraiThat's exciting
21:27.11GodGinraiI'd be very happy to get Stronghold running on my Pyra
21:27.16GodGinraior Red Alert 2
21:27.33WallyAOE2 works on the Pyra.
21:27.51GodGinraiYou know, I never played that series.  I've always been wavering on whether I should give it a shot
21:27.58Wallyffffffft
21:31.41GodGinraiWally: So when I get my Pyra, I would need to get the license for ARM7 devices?
21:31.49Klumpen~help
21:32.56Wally^
21:33.01WallyDIY GodGinrai :P
21:33.05WallyYes you would.
21:34.20Klumpeninfobot: where can i find Dragonbox Pyra?
21:34.20infoboti guess dragonbox pyra is at https://www.dragonbox.de/de/45-pyra
21:34.31Klumpenwhere can i find Dragonbox Pyra?
21:34.45Klumpenneeds to be addressed, ok
21:35.17Klumpeninfobot: Where can I find a good time?
21:35.26GodGinraiWally: cool.  RTS, Dreamcast, and Saturn games are probably the things I am most looking forward to on the Pyra.
21:35.57Wallyhttps://i.imgur.com/mzjVrLZ.png thought this game would
21:36.28GodGinraiWally: I can't even tell what system that Looney Tunes game is for
21:36.37Wallynoob
21:36.52GodGinraiWally: 'twas before my time, I'm fairly certain
21:37.27Klumpenwhere can i find weird crap?
21:37.36Klumpeninfobot: where can i find weird crap?
21:37.36infobotextra, extra, read all about it, weird crap is at http://z0r.de/
21:38.12lukeyinfobot: what is flash
21:38.12infobotrumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline
21:39.29Klumpeninfobot: what is sex?
21:39.30infobot[~sex] updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; emerge --oneshot condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; emerge -C condom; make clean;  sleep;
21:40.00Klumpen*rofl*
21:41.46Wallyinfobot: what is adobe?
21:41.47infobotWally: what are you talking about?
21:42.09Wallyinfobot: what is TrashyMG
21:42.09infobotWally: what are you talking about?
21:42.20Wallyinfobot: what is DocScrutinizer05
21:42.20infobotdocscrutinizer is probably jOERG, a HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko
21:42.28WallyNO HE IS A NOOB
21:42.35lukeyinfobot: Wallys like button
21:42.42WallyNO
21:42.52Wallystabs lukey with his forum avatar
21:43.03lukeydies
21:43.13Klumpeninfobot: what is Linus Torvalds?
21:43.13infobotlinus torvalds is, like, from Finland!
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21:43.37Klumpeninfobot: who is Bill Gates?
21:43.38infobotit has been said that bill gates is lord of Darkness
21:43.46Wallyinfobot: who is steve jobs?
21:43.47infobotI think you lost me on that one, Wally
21:43.57WallyWow.
21:44.32WallyIt's raining
21:44.36WallyJust so you know
21:44.49Wally<wa weather in Melbourne australia
21:44.58phanboetWally: WA: weather | Melbourne, Australia ;; URL: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%77%65%61%74%68%65%72%20%69%6E%20%4D%65%6C%62%6F%75%72%6E%65%20%61%75%73%74%72%61%6C%69%61
21:44.59Klumpeninfobot: what is wally?
21:44.59infobotIt's WALDO you bloody Limey.
21:45.20WallyWOW
21:45.54Klumpeninfobot: Who is EvilDragon?
21:45.54infoboti guess evildragon is your Lord and Saviour
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21:48.01WallyEvilDragon is a berry
21:48.05Wallya fire berry
21:48.47slaeshjaginfobot: what is a firebottle?
21:48.48infobotslaeshjag: I think you lost me on that one
21:49.04Klumpeninfobot: what is a klopsi?
21:49.04infobotfrom memory, klopsi is nuts
21:51.02Wallylol
21:51.05WallyHe got that one right
21:52.06Wally*it
21:53.43GodGinraiheh
21:54.04bencohaww poor infobot
21:54.34Wallyinfobot: what is a klumpen?
21:54.35infobotWally: I think you lost me on that one
21:54.52Wallybans infobot
21:55.55lukey...
21:56.05lukeyIs ChanServ down?
21:56.17*** mode/#dragonbox-pyra [+o Wally] by ChanServ
21:56.21*** mode/#dragonbox-pyra [-o Wally] by ChanServ
21:56.28WallyI think that answers your question? :p
21:57.05Klumpeninfobot: where can I find porn?
21:57.05infobotPorn remains one of the largest problems with Open Source Software. Often causing development delays, flooded links and, in extreme cases, disabling programmers ability to type.
21:57.26WallyHuman logic: See train about to depart.. Run 4 carriages down when a door into that carriage is open
21:57.58WallyPorn can't be opensource though
21:58.08WallyYou can't modify the code.
21:58.29Klumpendoors around here don't open anymore when the train is about to depart, so going for the already open ones that are about to close is the logical (although not a good) choice
22:00.05Wallyyeah.. Doors don't open automatically
22:01.55WallyOkay, time to have a break from forums. Blocking it during work hours
22:02.36Wallyit / them
22:04.15Klumpeninfobot: wet wally
22:04.15infobotACTION tips a bucket of special "dry" water over wally's head!
22:04.26Wallyinfobot: throw Klumpen
22:04.26infobotACTION winds up and throws Klumpen over the moon.
22:04.34WallyDry water!
22:04.59Wallyinfobot: Klumpen <is> a nutter
22:05.11Wallyokay infobot isn't a bucket variant.
22:05.19Wallyinfobot: What is Klumpen?
22:05.20infobotklumpen is, like, awesome
22:05.24Klumpen:D
22:05.32Wallyinfobot: $someone
22:05.59lukeyinfobot: what is lukey
22:05.59infobotlukey: what are you talking about?
22:06.04lukeyAww
22:07.23Klumpeninfobot: where can i find dripping pussies?
22:07.23infobotdripping pussies are at http://www.boredpanda.com/funny-wet-cats/
22:07.55Wallywhat is Neelix
22:08.00Wallyinfobot: what is Neelix?
22:08.01infobotI think you lost me on that one, Wally
22:08.08lukeyinfobot: where i can find dragon dildos?
22:08.10Wallyinfobot: Neelix is Spencer street
22:08.10infobotokay, Wally
22:08.25Wallyinfobot: what is Neelix?
22:08.25infobotsomebody said neelix was Spencer street
22:08.31Wallyahh yes.. so it is bucket
22:09.11luke-jrTotal preorders: 713 [500 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 701x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 360} @ 2016-05-25 22:09:11 UTC
22:09.17Wallyinfobot: throw someone reply throws $someone into $vehicle and attaches $item to them.
22:09.17infobotACTION winds up and throws someone reply throws $someone into $vehicle and attaches $item to them. over the moon.
22:09.24WallyWOW
22:09.31Wallyinfobot: throw someone <reply> throws $someone into $vehicle and attaches $item to them.
22:09.31infobotACTION winds up and throws someone <reply> throws $someone into $vehicle and attaches $item to them. over the moon.
22:09.46Klumpeninfobot: what is infobot?
22:09.46infoboti guess infobot is A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command!
22:09.52WallyDocScrutinizer05, the fuck you done to bucket
22:09.53Wally:P
22:10.22Wallygives a cat to infobot
22:10.48Klumpeninfobot: who is phanboet?
22:10.48infobotmethinks phanboet is my inferior nephew
22:11.04WallyI think phanboet is older than you infobot
22:11.47Klumpeninfobot: where can i find infobot?
22:11.47infobotextra, extra, read all about it, infobot is A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command!
22:11.49Lightkey<pyra
22:11.49phanboetTotal preorders: 712 [499 mobile (70%); 12x 2GB (1%), 700x 4GB (98%)] {Stand2GB: 8, Stand4GB: 205, US2GB: 1, US4GB: 136, EU2GB: 3, EU4GB: 359}, 57 pre pre-orders left @ 2016-05-26 00:00:17 CEST - http://p.rdw.se/pyra-preorder.html
22:12.01Lightkeyall of two.. a new low
22:12.35Klumpeninfobot: kick Wally
22:12.35infobotACTION kicks Wally
22:12.36Lightkeyooh, GamingOnLinux put up a news
22:13.52WallyPyra news?
22:13.57Klumpenhttps://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-handheld-linux-computer-pyra-is-available-for-pre-order.7285
22:14.04Klumpenbetter late than never
22:14.50Lightkey"A low power i386 CPU would have made this way more useful." :-D
22:14.55Wallyhahaha
22:15.00WallyI just saw that. Was like WTF
22:15.19WallyI reckon we'll win over a lot of n900 people
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22:16.32Klumpengaming on ARM is so nieche, nevermind the few smartphone people
22:17.27Wallyyeah.. they don't have a ptitseb
22:17.47lukeyiinfobot: what is ptitseb
22:17.50lukeyinfobot: what is ptitseb
22:17.50infobotlukey: what are you talking about?
22:18.11Klumpeninfobot: what is your purpose?
22:18.12infobotI think you lost me on that one, Klumpen
22:18.33Wallyinfobot: ptitseb is a serial porter.
22:18.33infobotWally: okay
22:18.33Wallyinfobot: your purpose is to fetch the butter
22:18.33infobotokay, Wally
22:22.39Klumpeninfobot: what are vegans?
22:22.39infobotvegans are e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf_%28Middle-earth%29
22:23.13bencoh:D
22:23.52Tsesarevichinfobot: what is Klumpen?
22:23.52infobotsomebody said klumpen was awesome
22:23.59TsesarevichLIES
22:24.29KlumpenB-)
22:24.30bencohhmm, tolkien .... it's a trap.
22:25.24Klumpeninfobot: who is Admiral Ackbar?
22:25.25infoboti heard admiral ackbar is a trap
22:25.27bencohWally: well, I'm still convinced pyra isn't a proper replacement (for n900), but yeah pyra will definitely get a lot of people from there
22:26.03bencoh(still pondering about a pre-order myself)
22:26.08GodGinraibencoh: for a n900? probably not.  But it should certainly be a worthwhile device.
22:26.47GodGinraiI kind of hate that now that it has a 4G radio, everyone insists that it is a phone
22:27.05bencoh:)
22:27.05GodGinraiIt's not a phone, it's a device that *can act as a phone*
22:27.14bencohso was n900 I'd say :D
22:27.19GodGinraiThe 4G radio isn't even standard.
22:27.24bencohtiny computer with phone features
22:27.31GodGinraibencoh: there's no such thing as a n900 without a cellular radio
22:27.35GodGinraibencoh: officially
22:27.37bencohtrue
22:27.53Klumpenour local tax mafia has been saying for many years already that a PC is a TV-Set
22:28.04GodGinraiKlumpen: wat
22:28.10Klumpenyup
22:28.16bencohanyway, the thing that bothers me for now regarding pyra+modem is I'd need a second SIM for it
22:28.52bencohand since I highly doubt my phone provider can send me a second one for the same line/num/contract ...
22:29.39Klumpenand as klopsi hinted at, if pyra would be shipped with video recording software that allows more than 30min of recording time it would be taxed as a camera, I guess
22:29.42GodGinraibencoh: second sim? why is that?
22:30.01WallyIf someone wants to dissect exagear desktop http://downloads.eltechs.com/exagear-desktop-v-1-5/exagear-desktop-armv7.tar.gz
22:30.14Wallyyou can't use it though, you need to activate it
22:31.05GodGinraianyway, I gotta head out
22:31.08GodGinraicya guys
22:31.15bencohGodGinrai: one for my phone, and one for pyra ...
22:32.42GodGinraibencoh: before I leave: If you want to use it as a phone, then you should just transfer the sim out of your phone.  Otherwise, if you don't plan to use it as a phone, then it doesn't need to be tied to your number.
22:33.04Klumpeninfobot: who is Donald Trump?
22:33.04infobotdonald trump is probably https://duckduckgo.com/?q=scrooge+mcduck&iax=1&ia=images
22:33.15Wallywow that guy is dumb.
22:33.17Wallylol
22:33.26Wallybencoh Do what you want. Nobody really cares :P
22:34.09KlumpenoO
22:34.25Klumpenwhat's wrong with not wanting to change the card under the battery every time?
22:34.45WallyOne of my aims with the pyra.. Not changing cards
22:35.03bencoh?
22:36.29WallyYou should be able to connect the same service to another sim
22:36.47Klumpenyes
22:37.06Klumpencall forwarding etc...
22:38.21KlumpenWally: wow that guy is dumb. <<< who?
22:39.00WallyGodGinrai
22:39.57klopsi-u3i expect the pyra will make webbrowsing on the go usable, unlike n900
22:40.08klopsi-u3n900 cannot deal with modern webpages
22:40.14luke-jr^
22:40.22WallyThat's true Klumpen
22:40.29Wallyklopsi-u3*
22:40.42Klumpenthe other k
22:41.09Klumpenwe need a third one
22:41.47Wallykow777
22:42.32KlumpenI'm not counting phantoms/lurkers
22:42.50Klumpenotherwise there'd be 91 people in this room, imagine that
22:44.48bencoh:]
22:46.06Klumpenanyway, good night
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22:46.16klopsi-u3night
22:46.19Wallybencoh what other use do you have for the pyra?
22:46.48Lightkeyargh, schnellquitter
22:47.19bencohWally: apart from?
22:47.57WallyTelephony
22:48.31bencohfor me it'd be a pocket linux (almost pocket, actually...)
22:49.53WallyTruth!
22:50.09bencohwith pretty much everything I could expect from a pocket linux machine ... terminals, web browsing, maybe a bit of gaming (not that much)
22:50.37bencoh(almost) replacing the need for a laptop on the go
22:51.09klopsi-u3small laptop
22:51.28luke-jrlately I've been tempted to give the Android + BT kb a try :/
22:51.44klopsi-u3droid 4 is pretty nice
22:51.46WallyOne thing I can't stand about iOS.. Lack of mouse / keyboard input
22:51.47lukeyinfobot: what is Pyra
22:51.47infobotsomebody said pyra was http://www.dragonbox-pyra.com/
22:51.56luke-jror at least use an Android for a phone and tether to Pyra
22:52.04klopsi-u3https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=droid+4&iax=1&ia=images
22:52.44bencohWally: that's not my main issue regarding iOS, but .... yeah, that's one of the thing that bothers me with modern "smart"phones
22:53.09Wallyyeah all smart phones. I was talking from personal experience ;)
22:53.18bencohI dunno if you've had a look at young smartphone users, but ... they can type pretty fast, actually
22:53.38bencohI believe they type faster on their touchphones than me on n900, or quite close to it
22:53.44WallyI can type pretty fast on my phone.. I just hate typing on my phone.
22:54.35bencohone girl on the bus made me wondered if she was typing faster than me on a regular computer keyboard
22:54.40bencoh(I doubt it, but I'm still unsure)
22:54.50bencohwonder*
22:54.53WallyThey use cheats
22:54.57luke-jr^
22:55.00bencohyeah, swype and all
22:55.08bencohiirc this one didn't
22:55.20WallyI guess they were born with smartphones
22:55.47lukeymaybe it looked so fast because she pressed the backspace key so often
22:56.15bencohhaha, no, I could see her sending messages
22:56.16WallyNot a bad observation lukey lol
22:56.41Wallyperhaps the txts were lyk txt and txt lye tat
22:56.48bencohyeah the youngest are technically born with smartphones, either theirs or their parents'
22:57.03bencoh(this one was too old for that though)
22:57.13WallyI am practising touch typing on iOS
23:03.37klopsi-u3irssi on n900 is pretty greaat
23:04.01lukeyfbterm on pandora is pretty great
23:04.16lukeygreaat*
23:04.31klopsi-u3:)
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23:05.22bencoh:)
23:07.26LightkeyTrashyMG|{AWAY}: "AWAY", BS!
23:21.21LightkeyTrashyMG|{AWAY}: stop hiding! your "it's" are annoying the fuck out of me! also, your last comment was spot-on
23:25.33FIQluke-jr: atm my current setup is a phone I never use for tethering, and pandora as the actual device I use
23:25.45FIQ*never use for anything but tethering
23:27.16luke-jrAndroid is tempting me with things like Google Translate (Pyra lacks a camera! ☹), Maps, etc
23:27.52FIQI see
23:28.00FIQbut the pyra will have gps too...
23:29.09luke-jrthere's no decent free software mapping
23:29.14FIQanyway, speaking of vkb
23:29.21luke-jrbeen trying out Navit for the last few weeks, and it sucks bad
23:29.29FIQI think if you actually wanted to be able to do speedy typing on a touch screen
23:29.38FIQyou're better off with handwriting recognition
23:30.54WallyGraffiti?
23:31.02WallyLook at how graffiti lasted xD
23:31.27bencohoooh right, pyra has no camera
23:31.34bencohcompletely forgot about that
23:31.44FIQsomething like grafitti yes
23:31.47luke-jryeah, major shortcoming
23:32.05bencohFIQ: I type faster than I handwrite
23:32.15FIQWally: also I have a feeling it didn't last because it required you to learn a novel way of typing
23:32.19bencohactually I'm freakingly slow at handwriting
23:32.34FIQI'm awfully slow at using virtual keyboards
23:32.36bencoh(unless I want it write-only)
23:32.42FIQlike, I basically can't use it :P
23:32.47Lightkeybencoh: understandable, considering it has practically everything else except for an optical drive :-)
23:33.06FIQkinda hard to fit one in
23:33.19FIQcouldn't you use usb cameras?
23:33.42bencohluke-jr: you should try modrana or marble
23:34.04luke-jrFIQ: not easily. you'd need to unplug and plug it.
23:34.11luke-jra real pain
23:34.17FIQuh...huh..?
23:34.36luke-jrand the USB ports are on the long side, so there's no practical way to leave it plugged in either
23:34.39FIQnot sure if I understand what you mean
23:34.49FIQyou mean it is hard to plug things in or what?
23:35.05luke-jrI mean it's additional steps to just opening the app
23:35.15FIQI guess it is
23:35.27WallyTrue FIQ.
23:35.29FIQIf you find a discrete one you could keep it in at all times though
23:35.35luke-jrand more stuff you need to keep on you separately
23:35.39luke-jrno
23:35.43luke-jrUSB ports are on the long side
23:35.48FIQso?
23:35.55luke-jrPyra is too big to fit in a pocket with anything plugged in there
23:36.13FIQsome usb thingies are really small
23:36.21luke-jr…
23:36.38FIQsorry, I guess I have big pockets :P
23:36.40luke-jrthere is just no sane way to do a USB camera.
23:36.58luke-jreven if you could technically make it fit some how (which I doubt), it'd be a loose camera
23:37.06luke-jrprobably break after a few days
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