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10:13.13P-GIf anyone is around and feels like teaching me about wireless networking client configuration, please let me know. :p
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11:36.48P-GI think I am having trouble with configuration because there is no /etc/wpa_supplicant file. Shouldn't that be there by default if wpa_supplicant is installed?
11:37.24P-GI haven't been able to find a local template for it either.
11:37.37fsmithredP-G, how are you trying to connect? Using wicd? Or /etc/network/interfaces?
11:38.08P-GI tried Wicd first but now I am just trying with wpa_supplicant.
11:38.38fsmithredI've never messed with wpasupplicant
11:38.45P-GWicd?
11:38.52fsmithredwhat happened when you tried wicd?
11:39.14P-GWell, when I first installed it worked fine in xfce. I connected to one network and there were no problems.
11:39.37P-GThen I installed i3 and it still worked for connecting to that network.
11:40.19P-GThen I tried to connect to a network somewhere else and tried connecting with the xfce utility (gtk?).
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11:40.43P-GIt saw a bunch of networks but not mine. I know the network was up because I was connected with my phone.
11:40.52fsmithredthere's an xfce network utility??
11:41.07P-GI think it's just gtk but I'm not sure.
11:41.22P-GIt's a toolbar thing.
11:41.38P-GBut I'd rather use cli from i3 anyway.
11:41.56fsmithredI don't know i3.
11:42.06P-GJust a window manager.
11:42.26P-GAnyway, I brought the laptop back to the first network and it still works with the first network but I can't get it to connect to another network in the same area.
11:42.54fsmithredmaybe it uses different encryption?
11:43.06P-GNope, it's the same.
11:43.20P-GI followed these instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant#Connecting_with_wpa_cli
11:43.33P-GChanged the zero to a one because it's the second network.
11:43.48P-GBut when I tried connecting, nothing changed.
11:44.02P-GSo I tried disconnecting manually from the first network. That worked.
11:44.13P-GThen I tried connecting manually to the second and it reconnected to the first. :S
11:44.40P-GBut I've been messing with wpa_supplicant so I don't know what it will do now.
11:44.42fsmithredyou connect to the same two networks regularly?
11:44.59P-GYeah. I don't really need to but it's good for testing.
11:45.42P-GHow would you connect?
11:45.47fsmithredok, I was thinking you could set up the interfaces file
11:46.27P-GThat wouldn't use wicd though, right?
11:46.35P-GCan it switch between wireless networks?
11:46.39fsmithredno. ifup/ifdown
11:46.43fsmithredyes
11:46.53P-GOk. How do I set that up?
11:47.00fsmithredthere's a way to have multiple configurations for the same interface
11:47.26fsmithredscroll to the bottom for sample interfaces file: http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/release_notes.html
11:47.49fsmithredfor multiple configurations, gimme a minute to find it. It's somewhere in the debian documentation
11:49.40P-GSo with this I could just uninstall wicd and the credentials would be stored in wpa_supplicant?
11:50.22fsmithredI guess. I've never had to look deep into it.
11:50.40P-GI wish I didn't. Nothing ever works for me. ;(
11:50.42fsmithredsee section 5.6.6 https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_manually_switchable_network_configuration
11:51.08P-GOk, this looks good. I'll see if I can figure it out.
11:51.13P-GThanks a lot!
11:51.43fsmithredyw. good luck.
11:52.00fsmithredsomeone else here might be able to help with wpa_cli
11:52.18fsmithredand I would guess that you had some setting wrong in wicd
11:52.40P-GYeah, I don't know.
11:52.46fsmithredor maybe you screwed up you wpasupplicant
11:53.04fsmithredmaybe purge and reinstall that
11:53.23P-GWell, I did try cleaning up the config files and resetting to default.
11:53.30fsmithredok
11:53.33P-GBut maybe I'll try reinstalling if necessary.
11:53.42P-GIt really shouldn't be necessary. >_>
11:53.47fsmithredright
11:55.49P-GBut wpa_supplicant seems pretty intuitive except for the problem I had. I'd like to learn what I did wrong if anybody knows.
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18:07.48lkclwoo libreoffice is *way* faster on devuan than it is on parabola.
18:09.22hellekinlkcl: maybe it's compiled differently?
18:10.23lkclhellekin: yeah they use qemu-arm... not native compiles: they don't have the resources
18:11.48lkcli suspect that they haven't had anyone point out the speed difference (it's like a 3:1 performance hit!) for them to investigate properly
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20:18.53aitorIklc; Parabola is a 100% freedistro
20:22.18QuetzalcoatlWhats up, there says everybody should update their kernel
20:22.25Quetzalcoatlhttps://www.rt.com/usa/355558-linux-vulnerability-websites-attacks/
20:25.26MinceR>the Linux operating system
20:30.05aitorDo you know where are available the scripts for avoiding binary blobs in the kernel?
20:30.34MinceRLinux-libre?
20:30.45aitorYes
20:32.22MinceRall i see is code they say they removed the blobs from
20:32.36MinceRthough debian also has a way to separate blobs into another repo, i wonder how they do that
20:34.53aitorSee you tomorrow :)
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21:14.29lkcldoes anyone know what package "iostat" is in for devuan-arm?  i can't find it and i need to do some stats comparisons
21:15.53lkclfound it - apt-get install sysstat
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