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00:08.16ProfessorKaos64is there a way to suppress the "no packages found matching" kickback from dpkg-query?
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00:11.42jhutchinsytrezq: See your pm.
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00:13.06jhutchinsProfessorKaos64: What are you actually trying to do?
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00:13.23ProfessorKaos64suppress when a package doesn't exist
00:13.33ProfessorKaos64in case a user specify's a pkg not in the apt-cache
00:13.36jhutchinsProfessorKaos64: No, what are you actually trying to do?
00:14.01ProfessorKaos64validating pkgs in a script for Debian wheezy
00:14.08ProfessorKaos64dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Status}\n' free
00:14.09ProfessorKaos64is fine
00:14.11jhutchinsProfessorKaos64: The desired response of an invalid packate is "no packages found matching".
00:14.15ProfessorKaos64is finedpkg-query -W --showformat='${Status}\n' XYZ is not
00:14.22ProfessorKaos64I know that.
00:14.52phy1729use the exit code and redirect to /dev/null
00:14.54jhutchinsProfessorKaos64: Ok, thanks, I don't know the answer but that's a better question.
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00:15.51marolocciojessie becoming "stable".. when?
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00:16.13dpkgThe release following Debian 7 "Wheezy" is codenamed "Jessie" (the cowgirl in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 8.  It is the current <testing> distribution.  Use the #debian-next channel on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net) for support.  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00004.html .  See also <jessie alpha>, <jessie freeze>, <jessie kernel>.
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00:17.11umadbro_ragequit:( I just installed wheezy.... oh well
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00:20.28iWaldo_anybody have experience installing radeon opencl drivers in a headless server?
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00:21.01SpeakerToMeatHi.
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00:21.43jhutchinsiWaldo_: Um, why?
00:21.53SpeakerToMeatQuestion. I've upgraded to Jessie. After fighting a few errors here and there, it tries to start to default, but gnome will not start. In the logs I get: gnome-session-check-accelerated: Helper exited with code 256" but I do have glx acceleration, and I can startx as root.
00:22.01SpeakerToMeatAny tips on what I could check please?
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00:22.45iWaldo_jhutchins: to use dem SIMD instructions!
00:23.02jhutchinsSpeakerToMeat: That sounds awfully specific, there is #debian-next on oftc.net
00:23.02SpeakerToMeatThat return is the last entry in this... http://hastebin.com/xivejabara.vhdl
00:23.19iWaldo_i've been toying around with some number crunching code, and it would be fun to see if i can learn how to program for a radeon
00:23.36iWaldo_i threw an old one that was laying around into a little mini-itx server i just built
00:23.51iWaldo_and it sounds like some recent changes to the catalyst drivers have removed X as a dependency
00:24.06iWaldo_but all of the info i can find is sparse, so it'd be great to talk with somebody who can help
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00:30.11maZer`-hi all
00:30.20maZer`-grub-install: warning: your core.img is unusually large.  It won't fit in the embedding area.
00:30.45maZer`-is there any way i can create a bios boot partition on mbr to prevent this? :D
00:30.56maZer`-but i cant delete my first partition, or move it :(
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01:35.26inthlis libt1-dev removed from jessie..? I can not find it any more
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01:37.07acidjazzhey all.. whats the easiest way to make a process a daemon i can restart/etc.. systemd ???.serivce? or init.d w/ start-stop-daemon
01:37.09dvs,v libt1-dev
01:37.10juddPackage: libt1-dev on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.1.2-3+squeeze1; squeeze: 5.1.2-3+squeeze1; wheezy: 5.1.2-3.6
01:37.59inthljudd, I just found https://bugs.debian.org/638759 - so it is removed :/
01:38.00juddNo package named 'just' was found in wheezy/i386.
01:38.38inthldvs, i meant you ;>
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01:42.08dvs???
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01:50.40acidjazzso noone on this custom service/daemon thing?
01:51.11MrMonkey31wait a tic, there is actually a debian 8?  so my april fool's trick chat wasn't even a good trick? =-{
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01:51.40CpuroastDebian Jessie
01:52.04Cpuroastwhich isn't released yet
01:54.20OSVGJessie isn't "stable" yet, it's certainly released.
01:54.21b1eedrapril 25th i think
01:55.04cranebut this shouldnt keep you from using it now already
01:55.06CpuroastJessie is still "Testing"
01:55.09Cpuroastand no
01:55.15Cpuroastit's pretty much RC1
01:55.17Cpuroastso yah
01:55.21Cpuroastit pretty stable
01:55.27Cpuroasttesting is frozen and all
01:55.37cranerc2 if you take a look at the installer ;)
01:56.05Cpuroastah
01:56.12Cpuroasthaven't had to install jessie in a while
01:56.13Cpuroast:)
01:56.23CpuroastRC1 was the last one I used
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01:56.53craneusing it already in production. since a few weeks. did not stumple into any nasty bugs for my stuff
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01:58.18phy1729When do security fixes for wheezy end?
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01:58.24SherafHi, how can i have the latest chromium being in the stable version of debian?
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02:02.06nononono_I have installed Debian 8 but I noticed big regression since Debian 7.8. I can't even change screen resolution and fan spins faster. Probably drivers are not installed by default.
02:02.45nononono_and system startup is 1.5x slower than in Wheezy (maybe because of multiarch) but I thought systemd is faster
02:02.55dvsnononono_: Debian 8 isn't released yet.  If it's a bug, file a report before it gets released.
02:03.17nononono_I'm not sure if it's a bug. How can I help you?
02:03.32OSVGYou can check the bug tracker to see if others are reporting similar behavior, to start.
02:03.50OSVGYou can also verify that you actually do have your drivers installed and whether or not that resolves the behavior.
02:04.51Canarwhat kernel version is 7.8?
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02:05.14Canarnononono_: have you tried different kernels?
02:05.46nononono_My path: 1) got unofficial RC2 Jessie (with firmware) into USB. 2) graphical expert install 64-bit. 3) selected only XFCE (no KDE, no GNOME, etc). 4) restart.
02:06.21OSVGIs the boot slow if you boot to a bash shell rather than xfce?
02:06.37nononono_I had a choice of 2 kernels: one with version number, one without version number
02:06.48dvsit's the same kernel
02:07.27SherafHi, how can i have the latest chromium being in the stable version of debian?
02:07.37nononono_OSVG: I haven't tried it yet but the initialization process is slow (systemd-fsck the slowest part)
02:07.43CanarSheraf: build it from source control? =3
02:07.57Sherafis there no .deb ?
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02:08.16Sherafgmail is saying i have an outdated version now (v37)
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02:12.53nononono_this is my dmesg http://pastebin.com/qmLnVyWs I can't find "systemd-fsck" messages that slow down startup but maybe I need another command to show them
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02:49.30nononono_My GPU is detected as product: RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4530/4570/545v] [1002:9553] but lhsw-gtk says "this device hasn't been claimed"
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02:49.59nononono_in case of debian Wheezy I had no issues with screen resolution, etc
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02:54.36nononono_my installed packages http://pastebin.com/0vhLXHJV and dmesg  http://pastebin.com/qmLnVyWs keep it and look up what's wrong
02:54.46nononono_it's late so I have to go
02:55.43nononono_My setup: unofficial multiarch Debian Jessie RC2 (with firmware) expert graphical netinstall from USB, only XFCE, most settings were default
02:56.36nononono_Startup is slower (systemd-fsck is the slowest), I can't change screen resolution and other screen settings (looks as if drivers weren't loaded or do not support my hardware)
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02:56.53nononono_in Debian Wheezy 64-bit (no multiarch) - no troubles
02:57.36nononono_cat /proc/version: Linux version 3.16.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Debian 4.8.4-1) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt7-1 (2015-03-01)
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02:59.01nononono_see you tomorrow, it's really late, I hope it's enough to examine the problem :) also take my lsmod http://pastebin.com/9GA3ELYq
03:00.11nononono_Last one - lshw http://pastebin.com/vanf8mnt
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03:33.49kazbloxQuike makefile issue
03:33.52kazbloxQuick*
03:34.01kazbloxNeed it solved quickly
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04:01.53joegiampaoliHi all! I want to use debian "testing" instead of "stable", if I install a "testing" release once it becomes frozen is it safer from breakage or buggy updates? Thanks!
04:08.45somiajjoegiampaoli: I would suggest using "jessie" in your sources.list. This means you will stablize with jessie (which is happening soon)
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04:09.13somiajjoegiampaoli: you don't want to use "testing", because once jessie is released, a floodgate of new packages get pushed in and there is lots of breakcage in this time.
04:09.49somiajjoegiampaoli: but once things settle down and you find that jessie no longer suits your needs you can upgrade to the testing version at that time. It could break (it will time to time depending on what you use). And it has no security support. But for the most part "it works"
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04:10.31somiajjoegiampaoli: but right now jessie has less than 100 rc bugs, it has been frozen a while and a release is getting close. It runs fairly well. It just has no security support.
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04:11.50Oozejamisen?
04:12.29joegiampaolisomiaj: of course! I meant to say better Jessie for now, I do remember that I did that once and did get the issue you are explaining. That's all I needed to know, I am not so concerned about security just newer packages or versions of libraries and stability, so in your opinion you would suggest that now is a much better bet to go with Jessie? Thank you so much!
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04:13.38somiajjoegiampaoli: Yea jessie is close to being released, it is a very good preview of what the release will be and will run well (minus security)
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04:16.26joegiampaolisomiaj: Perfect my friend! You have explained to me better than what I could really google up about "testing" releases and when they become more stable, will give it a go! Cheers! :)
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04:18.22kris_vid just added https://youtu.be/apQkQcDpMkM PLZ read description and maybe comment why im unable to install properlly
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04:23.00pengownwhen I try to start apache2 i get this error apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
04:23.06pengownand apache does not start
04:23.18pengownive always been able to connect to it on localhost before
04:23.34pengownwhen i grep for it in chkconfig it is off
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04:25.20jnewtrunning wheezy, have something that cannot find libstdc++.so.6  so i used apt-file to find that the file is in libstdc++6, which i also found here (for ubuntu): https://askubuntu.com/questions/409821/install-package-for-missing-libraries .  i already have that at the latest version, so i need to know what to do next to resolve the dependency
04:25.53joegiampaolisomiaj: just one more question, will Jessie get security support once it becomes released? Do I have to add extra lines to my sources when this happens? or does apt do it automagically?
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04:27.37jnewtmaybe i need to add wheezy backports to my search?
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04:29.57pengowni got it to stop giving that message by adding Servername localhost but it still will not actually start :(
04:30.02pengownno error messages
04:30.09pengownwhat am i overlooking
04:30.56pengownnever had this problem before :-/
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04:35.05pengowni thought silence in unix means it works but literally no error about apache starting
04:35.09pengownits not on though
04:35.14pengownfor whatever reason
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04:36.57pengownnothing in logs but me restarting it either
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04:38.48kris_vid just added https://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=54txAN1v5-o PLZ read description and maybe comment why im unable to install properlly, 10++ HOURS TRIED INSTALLING SYSTEM AND all goes fine it seems all to the end of it then it shows me a black screen when i bootup the "NEW INSTALLATION"...
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04:40.08pengownwell its not technically an error but i see it come up and shutdown like every second
04:40.14pengownno reasoning as to why though
04:40.22pengownjust starting then shutdown
04:41.19pengownlast line has it as starting
04:41.24pengowni need help :(
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04:47.54pengownhttpd is already running chkconfig and my browser say otherwise
04:47.55pengownBLAH
04:51.36kris_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54txAN1v5-o PLZ read description and maybe comment why im unable to install properlly, 10++ HOURS TRIED INSTALLING SYSTEM AND all goes fine it seems all to the end of it then it shows me a black screen when i bootup the "NEW INSTALLATION"...
04:53.07pengownim so confused
04:53.42pengownill look at your youtube and see if i have any ideas
04:53.49pengownim having no luck with apache2
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04:57.05pengownmost of that video isnt even of the installation
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04:59.09pengownyou might could try using the netinstall iso so you dont have to download wifi drivers on separate usb
04:59.19pengownthats the iso that worked for me
04:59.36pengownim on encrypted lvm works fine
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05:01.25pengowni dont have a bios capable of booting to usb but is it maybe trying to boot to one that isnt there? i know mine just goes to hdd if no cd is in there
05:01.28pengownbut idk
05:01.33pengownbest i can come up with
05:01.37kris_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54txAN1v5-o PLZ read description and maybe comment why im unable to install properlly, 10++ HOURS TRIED INSTALLING SYSTEM AND all goes fine it seems all to the end of it then it shows me a black screen when i bootup the "NEW INSTALLATION"...
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05:14.45kris_each install has ben taking like 10+ hours to complete everytime, because i have tried to ive used Use entire partition VLM & get an encrypted hd........even need to download the wifi drivers onto an extra usb to then confiirm lol its in on the laptop i wanna install on if its inside there no after 3 installations and 5-6 days continuely going on, i will have to give up it, because after the finally installattions are done and tell me to take out the
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05:46.13horrovackris_: That looks as if your boot loader isn't working properly.
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05:49.43kris_what can i do now then? as everything else has ben installed without problems, i stilll just  see a blinkmking " _ " on  my black screen u know.......
05:51.10horrovacWell, troubleshoot. Try re-installing the boot loader. Check if everything is there. Verify that the config is ok.
05:52.45fragtasticsounds like the bootloader, probably grub, didn't get installed during initial setup
05:53.11fragtasticor an update killed it
05:54.19fragtastici've got an odd display corruption issue here though after coming back from sleep/suspend/hibernate
05:54.41fragtasticthe display becomes garbled for the most part
05:55.16fragtasticdesktop gets random black lines/bars on it and the wallpaper has bands in it
05:55.30fragtasticand text becomes garbled
05:56.40fragtasticissue is on debian stable and testing
05:56.57fragtasticintel graphics btw
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06:12.13kris_What has went wrong with my install??? 3-4 times the same things happen, ben installing for over an week now!!... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54txAN1v5-o
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06:13.43horrovackris_: You need to troubleshoot it, very unlikely that someone here will be able to solve your problem remotely.
06:14.10kris_how?
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06:14.58kris_i dont  even know what troubleshoot means, or is done at all....
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06:17.35fragtastickris_, might help http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=120208
06:17.56horrovacI already told you once. Boot with the installation medium, try reinstalling the bootloader. Verify everything is there. Search on the internet.
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06:18.24fragtastichttp://askubuntu.com/questions/44374/blank-screen-with-blinking-cursor-after-install
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06:18.34horrovacTry to solve the problem insteas of repeatedly asking something that will likely get no helpful answer, or merely meta-answers. Like this one.
06:18.45fragtasticcould need the nomodeset option
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06:31.47daloHi folk. Maybe I ought to introduce myself, my name is Daniel, 31, from Sweden.
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06:33.20Zipfhello, i have a debian sqeezy box running perfect. I have one problem. Its connected to my monitor via kvm, everything is working fine, except if i stay a few days far from the box, when i try use kvm, somehow seesm the usb was powered off, or inactive, or something like, if i unplug the usb and plug again, it back to works .. so the question is, is there any cmd i could use to disablethe option to usb goes sleep or something ?
06:34.10horrovacI don't think it's the USB power, it will be the KVM itself.
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06:36.53Zipfhorrovac i know its the usb power, cause ive did some cmd last month (on the last reboot) and it worked, tweo days ago we had to reboot due a power failure, and now its happnening again
06:37.15Zipfthe main problem i can't find the page where i found the correct cmd
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06:38.54horrovacZipf: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4702216/controlling-a-usb-power-supply-on-off-with-linux ?
06:40.00Zipfi found that link, but i do'nt get it, so lets say i want diable usb port autosusped
06:40.10Zipfecho suspend > /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/power/level <-- that will do that ?
06:40.14horrovacNo.
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06:40.22horrovacThat will do the opposite.
06:40.33horrovacYou need to echo "on"
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06:40.38Zipfok
06:40.41zalami(Redmine will be installed there) that is owned by the user web1 and the group client0.
06:40.50zalami. how do I make a group client0 with a user web1 ?
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07:38.26K-202Hi. Any solution to problem with default screen resolution 1024x768 (instead of 1366x768) without no ability to change and slower system startup (systemd-fsck) on Debian 8 Jessie? You got my lsmod, mesg, lshw etc. If you want it again, check channel logs.
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07:48.36jellyK-202: don't see any URL from your nick in the last 7 days
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07:59.00K-202http://infobot.rikers.org/%23debian/20150409.html.gz :( not found
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08:00.15kochikamehey is Debian the most secure mainstream desktop OS?
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08:00.29horrovacdepends
08:00.41kochikamedepends on what?
08:01.12horrovacEverything. What you mean by that. You request a generalisation that has no meaning.
08:01.31horrovacIt's quite secure, yes.
08:02.57K-202So I installed Debian 8 Jelly multiarch (graphical expert install 64bit) with XFCE and I can't change screen resolution and other screen options (it's just 1024x768). Debian 8 boots slower (systemd-fsck is slow). In case of Debian 7.8 Wheezy I everything worked after installation.
08:03.07kochikameUbuntu says UK's security agency said Ubuntu is the most secure mainstream desktop OS
08:03.52horrovacDepending on what they consider a mainstream desktop OS, yes, might be.
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08:06.41j_tIs there a list of who donated how much to debian?
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08:07.41kochikamehey
08:07.49kochikamehorrovac,
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08:32.49ntzhello
08:33.12ntzI need to free some space in /var ... is it safe do delete /var/cache/apt/archives/* ??
08:33.21ntzthere is almost 1GB of packages
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08:33.56CissWitntz: apt-get clean
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09:05.37gryhi! the debian installer complains that non-free wifi firmware is missing, and the manual network setup doesn't have an option to enter wireless network name. should I take that the netinst version doesn't come with the non-free firmware?
09:06.03jellygry: that is correct
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09:06.26jellyif you can't bring firmware on a usb stick, try
09:06.29jelly!firmware images
09:06.29dpkgUnofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ .  See also <install guide>.
09:06.51kochikameI want to know how hard would it be for a Windows user to switch to Debian?
09:06.59kochikameI have supported hardware I guess
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09:07.57CissWitdepends how dependent you are to windows only software
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09:09.28gryjelly: ok; it's only one package, I'll try to put it onto a second flash drive I think.
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09:13.35kochikameCissWit, I use Opensource software like hexchat/vlc/libreoffice/thunderbird/firefox/clamav
09:13.51kochikameI don't have or use Microsoft Services or accounts
09:13.53kochikameeitherways
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09:15.09likecolacolai have been using debian stable fro about 7 months.. if i upgrade to testing now that i have some stuff installed into it, there's possibility of breaking something right?
09:15.10kochikameCissWit, also I use gpg/otr if required
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09:17.10Majikthiselikecolacola: yes there is a small chance that things will break, because the software in 'testing' is not as thoroughly-tested as in 'stable'.
09:17.45Majikthisekochikame: sounds like debian would work fine for you then
09:18.13Majikthisekochikame: or if you want more-recent software than debian offers, try Mint
09:18.28likecolacolaMajikthise, but the software i already have on stable (the version), when i upgrade it's a possibility that debian testing does not support it?
09:18.45warbaquemint is quite nice out of the box
09:19.13Majikthiselikecolacola: the software in debian testing is newer than in stable, so yes, if you have a program which relies upon a specific old version of a library, it might break.
09:19.33kochikameMajikthise, the problem is I don't want closed source software at all
09:19.37kochikameso Debian Main it is
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09:19.48grymy partitioning is odd. i see main inside hdd in /dev/sdb*, while the flash drive is in /dev/sda*.
09:19.49babilenlikecolacola: It should be noted that jessie (current testing) is scheduled for release in about two weeks. I wouldn't necessarily install wheezy boxes right now.
09:19.50kochikamebut I guess I might have to wait for version 8
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09:20.16yeihi !
09:20.18CissWitkochikame: then you should be fine
09:20.32kochikameok
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09:20.45kochikameCissWit, but I want version 8.x
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09:20.49kochikameit has beautiful GUI
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09:20.56kochikamecalled Gnome 3.14
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09:21.11kochikameis it still in production?
09:21.19likecolacolababilen, Majikthise ok thanks...
09:21.20CissWitwhat you can do is to install debian testing
09:21.25CissWitthat what i did on my last laptop
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09:22.33CissWitwhen the new version will be released, it will be already installed for you
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09:22.43CissWitits pretty stable now and you shouldn't experience any issue
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09:23.07kochikameCissWit, iso link? should I install Debian Jessie Beta or Testing?
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09:24.27CissWitkochikame: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
09:25.05CissWitinstall jessie (jessie is the code name of the actual testing, and is the next release)
09:25.39kochikamehttp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-jessie-DI-rc2-amd64-CD-1.iso
09:25.41kochikamethis one?
09:25.56kochikameIs this also a live CD?
09:26.21CissWitif you have an internet connection, you should use the netinst install
09:26.29CissWiti mean, during the installation
09:26.39CissWiti know you have one, i wouldn't be talking to you otherwise :)
09:26.48kochikamehah
09:26.48kochikameok
09:26.58kochikamebut I want a liveCD
09:26.59likecolacolababilen, Majikthise, i am in a little trouble... i need to install odoo, i followed some tutorial (it's not in the repositories) and apparently everything worked until i tried to use it and now it's broken... i don't know if i should upgrade to testing and then try an easier installation package
09:27.18likecolacolai don't even know how to clean the system from all the odoo things i already installed manually
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09:29.55kochikameCissWit, what is the version of kernel on Jessie RC2?
09:30.28CissWithttps://packages.debian.org/jessie/linux-image-amd64 3.16
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09:33.01kochikamebut kernel.org shows no such release
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09:33.20kochikamethere is 3.14 and then 3.18
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09:35.46jellykochikame: that is correct.
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09:38.20jellykochikame: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/10/msg00543.html
09:39.54jellykochikame: and https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/11/msg00154.html from the same thread, if you want even more details
09:40.20kochikamejelly, why cannot we just pick 3.18?
09:40.30kochikameit is more updated an has official linux kernel support
09:41.09jellykochikame: "official linux kernel support" does not commit to keeping that support for 2+ years
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09:41.30jellythus, a distro cannot rely on it
09:41.53kochikameok
09:42.04kochikameWhen version 8 likely to be released?
09:42.09jelly!wwjr
09:42.09dpkgDebian 8 "Jessie" will release on 2015-04-25; ask me about <wheezy->jessie>. There's plenty of bugs still to squash so ask me about <how-can-i-help>, <jessie freeze>, <jessie pool 1>. See <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html>
09:42.40jellyVendetta: please disable your script/bot replying to !w
09:42.47kochikameok
09:42.54kochikame25th of April it is then
09:43.01jellymaybe.
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09:51.01jellydpkg: factinfo jessie pool 1
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09:57.10biledemonhi. I let owncloud create its own mysql database and user by typing in my mysql root account during installation. When logging in to mysql with root and checking out the users I noticed the account owncloud created has % under the host column. I think % means that it's accessible from any host. Is this desirable? (I'm still a mysql noob).
09:57.26biledemonwoops wrong channel. sorry
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10:17.10mr_claus_hi, what is the most simple way to create an initrd for a raspberry on an x64 arch?
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10:28.10g00seWas messing about with a Java app yesterday to listen to port 9999 and can see via netstat that port is _still_ listening, though the process is long dead but now it seems to be inetd. What gives?
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10:44.56gryduring the install the ntfs (windows) partition is marked as 'B', and i do not understand which one is grub. i only see 1) ntfs 2) 32GB 3) 27GB (other linux distro's /) 4) 1.4GB (swap of the other distro). what does the 'B' mean and where is grub?
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10:48.00horrovacB probably stands for "bootable", grub should not be installed on a partition but outside of it, in MBR or something like that.
10:48.51horrovacWith UEFI and MPT partitions this has become far more complicated. I find myself incompetent again.
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11:02.49gryhorrovac: thanks. why is the partition '3' (old linux) not marked as bootable?
11:02.58gryhorrovac: because only grub can boot it?
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11:03.20jellygry: the bootable flag is not relevant for linux
11:03.33jellyignore it.
11:03.36gryah ok
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11:03.50gryi should also ignore that it doesn't show grub, right?
11:04.08horrovac"show" where?
11:04.10jellyprobably
11:04.27gryhorrovac: in the installer where it asks what partition to use
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11:04.49jellygry: do you have a GPT partition table and an UEFI firmware, or a DOS-MBR partition table format and BIOS firmware?
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11:04.56gryi point it to a free partition and said to use as 'ext4 jornaling' for '/'
11:05.11gryjelly, i have a bios
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11:05.38jellythen parts of grub are installed outside any partition, in the "unused" space before the first one
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11:51.27EphexeveHey guys, I just set up LogWatch, I under if I need to have a mail server so Logwatch can send me daily emails?
11:52.01phixEphexeve: You should have a local mail server regardless
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11:52.48Ephexevephix: Well, I haven't configured any mail server, I just wanted Logwatch to send daily emails to my gmail.com. I am a bit noob at that still.
11:53.06gryhttps://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/svetlana/m/debian-installer/ does this picture look ok? i don't understand why it says it has to format the 'swap' partition again (i don't necessarily need swap, i have 4GB of ram and i only use like 500MB normally)
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11:53.36gryor how it knows that it is swap and not something else
11:54.03Majikthiseit knows it's swap because the partition is marked as type 'linux swap' in the partition table
11:54.15Majikthiseand formatting it again won't matter. Just do it.
11:54.31gryk, thanks; laters
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12:01.32likecolacolahey... i just upgraded from stable to testing and am trying to make a backup but the os wont recognize properly the usb hard drive..
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12:02.33horrovacYou have upgraded the kernel?
12:02.58likecolacolayes
12:03.17horrovacBut you are running the old one, you haven't rebooted yet?
12:03.45likecolacolaoh, haven't reboot yet, i am trying to make a backup(dumb me did not make it before the upgrade)
12:04.07horrovacWell you won't be able to, over USB anywas.
12:04.10horrovacanyway.
12:04.23likecolacolahorrovac, but it recognize usb drives
12:04.42likecolacolai have successfully mounted a usb drive, even nautilus do it automatically
12:04.48horrovacYour running kernel (old) tries to load modules for USB storage but they're replaced with new ones, so they don't work.
12:04.48likecolacolabut when i try with this harddrive this is what ig et
12:04.50likecolacolahttp://paste.debian.net/165900/
12:05.24likecolacola^ output from lsusb recognize it as Myson Century, and sudo fdisk -l show that strange stuff about /dev/sdb
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12:05.33likecolacolahorrovac, ok...
12:05.48likecolacolai hope that when i restart the system will boot successfully xdd
12:05.51likecolacolahorrovac, thanks
12:06.09horrovacGood luck.
12:06.25likecolacola:>
12:08.03otyughhey there. I'm using a very tiny computer and my root is taking 3.8GO on 4GO. How can I lighten this all ?
12:08.11otyughI don't think I installed anything heavy
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12:08.47horrovacQuick fix, do apt-get clean
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12:09.46otyughhorrovac: is there more to do ?
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12:10.11otyughhorrovac: I mean, I really don't feel confortable having less than 10% space left on a device
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12:10.47otyughis there some sort of way to detect unused package or such ? Or heavy packages ?
12:10.55micalmotyugh: check sudo du -sh /*
12:11.11horrovacotyugh: You're right not to be comfortable with that. If the clean doesn't do much you'll have to go through it and find what's using the space.
12:11.14jelly!sort by size
12:11.14dpkgit has been said that sort by size is aptitude search ~i -O installsize -F"%p %I", or see <sort by size sarge>, or see <dpigs>
12:11.32fraffotyugh: remove x-window :)
12:11.47gryHi. I already have grub installed but the debian installer asks where to  install grub and whether to install it on master boot record of the first hard drive.
12:11.50horrovacI'd remove KDE or Gnome.
12:12.08otyughI don't use desktop already. x)
12:12.27jellygry: you can only have one grub.  Pick one distro's grub and stick with it.
12:12.31gryi want to say 'no thanks, it is already there'  but i see no such option.
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12:12.44craneotyugh: what kind of installation did you choose? a fresh installation without any stuff comes along with nearly 800mb
12:13.08jellygry: I _think_ you can unset all devices and let it d-i skip that step...
12:13.18otyughcrane: I came with something pre-installed I tried to clean out afterward
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12:13.31gryK
12:13.32otyughI know it's not the best :/
12:13.50jellygry: however, then you have to boot the distro owning currently installed grub, run their update-grub, let it find the fresh Debian installation
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12:14.05gryYa
12:14.22otyughwell. My 20 heavier package are between 10 and 30Mo... :s
12:14.29jellygry: (and repeat that every time you install newer kernels on debian)
12:14.39otyughI really don't know how I do reach 3.8Go there...
12:14.50gryAw, Hebe.
12:14.57craneotyugh: take a look at 'df -h'
12:15.16gryHehe.. Thanks
12:15.38otyughrootfs           3.7G  3.6G     0 100% / - Ho my.
12:16.07otyugh(I was installing yuno host, I just saw It was takjing every space, but seem I eat everything oO)
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12:16.27otyugh*it
12:18.56otyughWell the installation failed, obviously ^^'
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12:20.01craneotyugh: du --max-depth=1 -ch / | sort -nr then you can find the big stuff
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12:21.44watmmSo. /proc/net/dev lists the number of packets on each interface. One of the fields is called "errs". net/core/dev.c defines stats gathering on incoming/outgoing packets, incoming error packets being "rx_errors". Does anyone know how to use tcpdump (or any other tool) to view only incoming packets (hopefully flagged?) as errors? Thanks.
12:21.44Savemechguys could someone explain how to use rsyslog?
12:21.51horrovacWhat I do when hunting for waste of disk space is du -s /* | sort -n
12:21.55jellydo not forget -x when running your du ... /
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12:22.10jellyhorrovac: that's a horrible command
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12:22.24otyughwell. /root is taking up to 600Mo, /usr 2GO, /lib 400Go, /var 250Mo, and /run and /srv 100Mo. That's about it
12:22.26jellyno need to du /proc or /sys
12:22.37otyughsomething anormal there ?
12:22.47jellyotyugh: /root 600MiB?
12:22.48horrovacIf any of the directories appear bigger than they should, I repeat that for them. If it's, say, /usr, I do du -s /usr | sort -n
12:23.07otyughho jelly
12:23.09jellyotyugh: that's root's homedir.  It shouldn't be using much.
12:23.14otyughthis is a 600Mo jackpot
12:23.28horrovacjelly: Well it doesn't hurt either. Never had problems with it.
12:23.35otyughI just put some video in there is thouldn't be. Something like a "mv ~" as root...
12:23.43jellyhorrovac: it can hurt a _lot_
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12:23.49horrovacI won't prematurely optimise such simple stuff like that.
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12:24.09jellyI would stay AWAY from any /* construct in shell
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12:24.23jellyyou never know what that * might expand to
12:24.35frostschutzstay away from -x as well
12:24.45jellynah, -x is xcellent
12:24.50frostschutzit's stupid
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12:25.03A_Df_hi
12:25.17otyughdo you have any other tip on my rootdir size directory ?
12:25.19frostschutzif you want a complete picture, do mount --bind / /mnt/root and then analyze /mnt/root without -x
12:25.42A_Df_How can I see the notifications? I'm using Debian jessi and when the screen is blocked It says that I have several notifications. Thank you
12:26.08ntz/dev/mapper/ns-root  322M  147M  159M  49% /
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12:26.18ntz^^ but I don't like it like that :D
12:26.38jellyfrostschutz: that's nice as well
12:26.54ntzif you have separate /var, /usr, /home and /tmp you can be fine with 500MB in rootfs ;)
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12:27.34K-202I tried to install Code::Blocks on Jessie by typing dpkg -i * in directory containing 16 .deb packages after downloading it from SourceForge
12:27.37K-202but some packages had conflicts
12:27.44frostschutzif you have a separate everything, you can just as well put / and /usr into one. no point in keeping empty filesystem/partition around unless you actually want to put crap in root's homedir
12:27.48K-202CodeBlocks is installed but doesn't start
12:27.50K-202how to fix it?
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12:28.06jellyK-202: do you have the complete output of that installation attempt?
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12:29.01brokencyclehi!
12:29.50brokencycledoes anyone have an idea why unbound might terminate immediately with SIGINT when started via systemd, but continues to run when being started with the -d switch?
12:30.17rbnielsenIs there currently an expiration issue with the debian repositories? I'm getting expired release files on the main danish debian mirror, when updating in aptitude. I've tried other mirrors, with same error.
12:30.30rbnielsen"Invalied since 1d 3h [..]"
12:30.49rbnielsenI'm on wheezy.
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12:31.03brokencycle"yesterday, it worked" (seriously, it worked)
12:31.37brokencyclecould not yet find useful pointers using google - only source code
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12:32.48DanteLAI updated from wheezy to debian testing and from gcc 4.7 to 4.9. Is there way to re-install 4.7 alongside 4.9 ? It doesn't seem to want to co-exist, whereas 4.8 gets installed fine
12:32.55brokencycleoh, and btw, I started unbound with -d also via systemd
12:33.06jelly,v gcc-4.7
12:33.07juddPackage: gcc-4.7 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.7.2-5; sid: 4.7.4-3
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12:33.59DanteLAjelly: ?
12:34.31jellyDanteLA: how does the installation of gcc-4.7 fail?  Show the output of "aptitude install gcc-4.7 gcc-4.9", "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy gcc-4.7 gcc-4.9"
12:35.08otyughis there some standard thing to do when you are stuck with a "can't open display :0.0, aborting" or is that a rather general stuff to say "you changed some random config you shouldn't and now you are fucked" ?
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12:35.24K-202jelly, I translated most strings in output http://paste.debian.net/165907/
12:35.25jellyrbnielsen: wfm.  Try deleting all the /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* files and do an "aptitude update" again
12:35.34abrotmanotyugh: when doing what?  Generally it means you're trying to run an application in X as the wrong user
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12:36.31brokencyclethis is on jessie/amd64
12:36.32DanteLAjelly: If I have only this: "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free" in /etc/apt/sources then "E: Package 'g++-4.7' has no installation candidate"
12:36.36rbnielsenjelly, deleting as in 'aptitude clean'?
12:36.36jellyK-202: run "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install", see if apt can figure out the missing dependencies
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12:36.49rbnielsenOr just raw rm -rf?
12:37.05jellyrbnielsen: no, deleting as in "rm" (not -r!) but aptitude clean might work as well
12:37.07DanteLAjelly: If I re-add wheezy stuff in /etc/apt/sources then it fails to install because gcc-base-4.7 conflicts with gcc-base-4.9
12:37.22rbnielsenOk
12:37.26jellyDanteLA: is it g++-4.7 or gcc-4.7, then?
12:37.35DanteLAjelly: g++
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12:38.34jellyDanteLA: it's not present in testing at all.  You'd have to do a testing+unstable mix if you really needed this.
12:38.40K-202jelly, http://paste.debian.net/165909/ is it what it should be?
12:38.48jelly!why is g++-4.7 not in testing
12:38.49dpkgg++-4.7 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=g++-4.7
12:39.07DanteLAjelly: Ok. I was actually going to try that next
12:39.29jellyDanteLA: read: /msg dpkg tum
12:39.56rbnielsenjelly, Just to satisfy my paranoia; 'rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*'
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12:40.01rbnielsen?
12:40.05jellyDanteLA: note that testing will get a big influx of packages after jessie is released, that's supposed to be near the end of this month
12:40.20jellyrbnielsen: NO.  rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*_*
12:40.42jellythat _* is important.
12:40.52rbnielsenSee, this is why one should always be a wee bit paranoid. xD
12:41.15jellyrbnielsen: oh, and any existing stuff in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/, too
12:41.19DanteLAjelly: Great. I messed up this system when I went from wheezy to unstable/testing so I can start fresh from jessie. Thanks for help.
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12:42.13jellyDanteLA: alright, but it seems jessie won't have g++-4.7
12:42.21K-202jelly, what next? try to install Code::Blocks with --force option?
12:43.12rbnielsenjelly, 'rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*_*' ?
12:43.22jellyrbnielsen: yeah
12:43.23DanteLAjelly: I guess one can always install from the source or mix jessie with unstable..
12:43.29rbnielsenPerfecto.
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12:43.46jellyDanteLA: it is not very sane to mix stable with unstable, though :-)
12:44.24DanteLAWhat can one do when gcc 4.8 and 4.9 does not unroll critical loops anymore
12:44.58jellyK-202: install the packages one by one and clear the package state with apt-get -f install, or set up a local repo and try installing via apt, maybe
12:45.03rbnielsenjelly, It persists. Still says release file is expired.
12:45.46jellyrbnielsen: dpkg --print-architecture ?
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12:46.16rbnielsenjelly, i386
12:46.34jellyrbnielsen: dunno, try http.debian.net
12:46.57jellydpkg, tell rbnielsen about wheezy sources.list
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12:54.06dokmastill can't get thunar to mount usb stick... seems like polkit refuses the permission
12:54.25dokmais there any way to spy on thunar to see what kind of permission it asks of polkit
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12:57.44rbnielsenjelly, changed to http.debian.net as suggested in dpkg, and now it works. Odd.
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12:58.08rbnielsenCould it be that the snapshot in the mirrors were outdated?
12:58.16Eduard_MunteanuIs it possible to install a .deb along with its dependencies?
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12:59.44abrotmanEduard_Munteanu: gdebi seems to do that
12:59.58petn-randallEduard_Munteanu: Yes, if you have a stand-alone .deb, gdebi can automatically install the dependencies with it. The "sloppy" way is to 'dpkg -i your.deb', the just run 'apt-get install -f' after that.
13:00.11abrotmanprefers the "sloppy" way ..
13:00.38Eduard_MunteanuHm, I see. Now I have to figure out a way to convince puppet to do that.
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13:01.17Eduard_MunteanuMight be easier to just host a repo normally.
13:01.25Oozejelly, I think I fixed it??
13:01.31OozeIt's been up 24hrs now
13:01.33OozeLongest ever
13:01.48OozeI ran a memtest and gave it some more room for airflow in the back
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13:02.51jellyOoze: good, now I can tell you #debian is not the right place for hardware issues :-D
13:03.17jellythere's... umm... ##hardware I guess
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13:03.40jellyno channel like #very-old-proliants
13:03.56rozieLOL
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13:31.04vroomfondelI am trying to install Debian over a Ubuntu but the debootstrap fails
13:31.16fireba11"over"?
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13:31.42Oozeforeigners...
13:32.30vroomfondeltrying to overwrite my Ubuntu with a Debian installation
13:32.41vroomfondelwithout losing /home
13:33.23fraffvroomfondel: did you backup your /home/ somewhere before doing anything else ?
13:34.03vroomfondelfraff: no, I am just trying the procedure, it is not really about the contents of /home
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13:34.37otyugh'no passwd entry for user admin' : I did "passwd admin" to set one, and the user does not seem to exist. What the hell ? >.>
13:34.50jellyvroomfondel: don't do debootstrap over existing paths.
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13:35.26jellyvroomfondel: the simplest thing to do is back up /home, reformat, install, restore
13:35.41vroomfondelthe last message of the installer reads: Failure trying to run chroot /target dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.26_amd64.deb
13:35.50fraffotyugh: grep admin /etc/passwd ?
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13:36.25greycatAnd when you reinstall, make /home a separate partition so next time you don't have to destroy and restore it.
13:37.03fraffvroomfondel: are you trying to deboostrap from a live cd/usb ?
13:37.09vroomfondelso its not that easy to reuse a filesystem?
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13:37.34vroomfondelfraff: no, I put a netinstall on a USB.
13:37.35otyughfraff: nothing
13:37.51fraffotyugh: so admin user does not exist
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13:38.01otyughindeed :o
13:38.29fraffvroomfondel: you can still remove all directories exept /home/ and try again but still, backup your /home first
13:38.58otyughis "admin" the french word in linux to "root" ? >.>
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13:39.17fraffotyugh: no, root is root, in any luguage
13:39.19otyughor is that considered two stuff different
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13:39.48Eduard_MunteanuThere's a special admin user different from root, yes.
13:40.16jellyvroomfondel: it's easy to reuse, but it's also easy to confuse dpkg and packages with preexisting state
13:40.17otyughwell I don't have it. Guess it's a simple user with NOPASSWD in sudoers or something ?
13:40.38themillotyugh: what are you really trying to achieve here?
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13:40.59otyugha program seem to "need to connect using admin". And the user admin does not exists.
13:41.16Eduard_Munteanuotyugh, what program?
13:41.40otyughyunohost.org
13:42.07greycat"YunoHost is a server operating system aiming to make self-hosting accessible to everyone." it says.
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13:42.19otyughit is.
13:42.33greycatSo you're trying to make an ssh connection from Debian to Yuno?
13:42.39greycatOr... what?
13:42.45otyughIt can be installed  on debian
13:42.58greycatIt says it's an operating system.  So one of these statements is not correct.
13:43.04otyughwell
13:43.08otyughthere is a steamOS
13:43.16otyughbut you don't need it to use its capabilities
13:43.31greycatWhat are you trying to do, and where does Debian come into it?
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13:44.18otyughI'm trying to uses yunohost that stats there is  'no passwd entry for user admin' ; it's a debian environment.
13:44.32themill(their documentation makes no mention of a user called "admin")
13:44.35jellyotyugh: Once you do "sudo ./install_yunohostv2" from https://yunohost.org/#/install_manually the resulting installation cannot be, in good faith, called Debian any more
13:44.36otyughI guess the error is debian's too >.>
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13:44.57otyughho.
13:45.04otyughThen it's not a debian anymore. My bad.
13:45.08otyugh>.>
13:45.11otyughOrly.
13:45.14jellyotyugh: ask the yuno people about the installation problems
13:45.21otyughdoki dak
13:46.23craneotyugh: i guess your installation was not correct since you run out of space during the installation ;)
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13:46.43jellythey seem to have an xmpp server with a support channel
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13:46.47otyughcrane: just purged and reinstalled it.
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13:47.08otyughbut yeah, might be still a problem
13:47.23otyughshit ho shit. Clean install always the solution.
13:47.42themilland "download this random hairball of an untrusted script and run it as root" would have to be the worst way to start
13:47.59GPenguinotyugh: what exactly do you need from that juno stuff? maybe you can do it with debian tools?
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13:49.47Eduard_MunteanuLooks like a CoreOS-minded distro.
13:49.57otyughGPenguin: you are mostly right, if I don't consider the 900 tutos needed to setup a mailserver, althought it would be not properly installed and everyone that tries to help will state every minute it's not doable by a novice. So yay.
13:50.37greycatI didn't read any details, but it looked like a "toaster" to me.  Something that tries to set up a web server for you.
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13:51.37Eduard_Munteanuhttps://yunohost.org/#/whatsyunohost
13:52.02craneI'm trying to build vagrant images with packer. Therefore I created a preseed file but I'm stuck at the beginning of the installation where i have to choose a language. This is the start of my preseed file. Anything messed up there? http://paste.debian.net/165921/
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13:52.38GPenguinotyugh: what about this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hostinghelper/
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13:52.43Eduard_MunteanuSo yeah, more like a multipurpose server set up out of the box.
13:53.23darxmurfis there a way to merge 2 folders and auto rename files which have the same name but different content ?
13:53.44introomhi. man gcc gives nothing.
13:53.49greycatdarxmurf: you could write a script...
13:53.51introomwhat's the place to consult gcc documentation?
13:54.03themill!gcc-doc
13:54.03dpkgThe man pages for <gcc> are in non-free, as they are released under the <GFDL> with invariant sections, so they do not meet the <DFSG>.  To install, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the gcc-doc package.  If you are looking for man pages for printf, strchr etc then install the manpages-dev package.
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13:54.28darxmurfgreycat: yep but I'm pretty sure there is something existing no ?
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13:54.47darxmurfkind of rsync --delete-source --skip-diff-files
13:54.49darxmurf:D
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13:54.53greycatIt would be faster to write a script from scratch than to attempt to find an existing one.
13:55.02introomthemill: cool
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13:56.45vroomfondelis there a point in having a label for a filesystem on a disk?
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13:57.03GPenguineasier recognition
13:57.12Eduard_Munteanuvroomfondel, you can mount by label
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13:57.33Eduard_MunteanuInstead of device path.
13:57.35themillLike UUIDs but more memorable...
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13:58.28vroomfondelok thanks. The "name" is something different on top of that?
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13:59.58darxmurfgreycat: or I can use even better rsync -rtpogv -clis -b --suffix=new
14:00.05darxmurfadd a suffix to the files in question
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14:01.07greycatOK, if that works, then there's your script.  Congrats. :)
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14:03.49GirL-crazyhi
14:04.00darxmurfthat was quick :D
14:04.16darxmurfwell yes, I need to keep both files but with a prefix for example
14:04.19darxmurfof suffix
14:04.20darxmurfor
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14:11.31GPenguinrsync only works its magic when the locations are the same, right?
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14:12.08jhutchinsGPenguin: Not sure what you mean, you can copy files from anywhere to anywhere with it.
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14:13.05GPenguinbut lets say change the directory structure it will copy the new structure into the old one?
14:13.10darxmurfyep
14:13.14darxmurfwhich is logical
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14:13.30darxmurfif you rename "folder1" to "folder2" for him it's a new folder
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14:13.45darxmurfbut you can launch the rsync from the "folder"
14:13.54GPenguinis there something like a tool to merge for binary data?
14:14.06darxmurf?
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14:15.34GPenguinlets say video_A is in dir3 and its already in the destination in dir2
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14:15.49GPenguinso i dont have to transfer again :)
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14:16.09greycatYou would have compare SHA-1 sums (or something) of each file in each place.
14:16.23darxmurflaunch your rsync from dir3
14:16.31greycatUnless the files have the same *name* already, then it's just cmp(1).
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14:16.34jrtappersDoes anyone else get "Access Denied" with s3cmd
14:16.44GPenguingreycat: thanks!
14:17.00darxmurfrsync -avn /dir3/ /dir2/
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14:17.18darxmurfyou can ask rsync to compare checksum instead of time
14:17.51GPenguinyes, that was the clue i needed - the checksum
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14:28.47darxmurf,
14:32.32darxmurffolks, time to go ! see you tomorrow !
14:33.21GirL-crazyClick http://www.bukolay.com I Come.
14:33.56GirL-crazyw.w.w.bukolay.c.o.m Click come
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15:03.37crised_Trying to compile opencv according to this, http://docs.opencv.org/doc/tutorials/introduction/linux_install/linux_install.html
15:04.12crised_everything is going fine, except gstreamer support, in the repo there are some old gstreamer versions... How can I find a package that contains a version of gstreamer 1.x_
15:04.17crised_?
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15:04.41jrtapperscrised_, Are you doing it for the package? Or do you need to compile it
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15:05.56crised_jrtappers: I need to compile it
15:06.06crised_need to compile opencv *with* gstreamer support
15:06.41greycat,versions libgstreamer1.0-dev
15:06.43juddPackage: libgstreamer1.0-dev on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.2.4-1~bpo70+1; sid: 1.4.4-2; jessie: 1.4.4-2; experimental: 1.5.0.1+git20150316-1
15:06.51somiaj,v gstreamer
15:06.52juddNo package named 'gstreamer' was found in i386.
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15:07.27crised_judd: I have wheezy
15:07.28juddNo package named 'have' was found in wheezy/i386.
15:07.29somiajcrised_: as greycat asked judd to point out, appears you can get 1.2.4 in backports. If you need newer than that you'll have to backport (complie it) yourself.
15:07.44crised_What is debian Sid?
15:07.49tenshi998hey guys I need help with xfce4 in debian testing
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15:08.09crised_somiaj: thanks
15:08.09somiajcrised_: sid is the code name for debian unstable. The first place most packages go (outside of the freeze)
15:08.22crised_somiaj: great thanks
15:08.25tenshi998I want to enable vsync in xfce4, but in the settings don't show the option to enable vsync
15:08.37somiajcrised_: do not mix sid packages on wheezy system, that is a good way to break your debian.
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15:09.12crised_somiaj: ok, only backports
15:09.12crised_cool
15:09.47somiajcrised_: correct, backports are built for wheezy and will run just fine (only issue with backports is they have lest testing so there may be issues with them but this is usually rare) And they have no security support.
15:10.10crised_somiaj: ok cool
15:10.34centrxHi I'm looking for a good way to break my Debian
15:11.04greycatSo many ways.
15:11.11somiajhands centrx a sledge hammer and points at his cpu
15:11.15clearleapmattAnything in particular?
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15:11.30greycatTry gzipping random files!
15:11.56tenshi998hey can anyone help me with this?
15:12.02centrxok gzip /dev/null > /dev/urandom
15:12.15tenshi998is any of you able to enable vsync in xfce4?
15:12.37somiajtenshi998: could it be the graphic drivers you are using just don't support that feature, hence why it is greyd out?
15:12.52tenshi998I have intel hd graphics 4600
15:13.04tenshi998I also can't enable it on my debian testing xfce4
15:13.08tenshi998but it works in xubuntu
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15:18.23petn-randalltenshi998: Is there are checkbox in Ubuntu, or what do you mean exactly?
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15:19.23tenshi998there is a checkbox for vsync in xfce4 in xubuntu but not in debian testing
15:19.34crised_  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gstreamer1.0-libav
15:19.39crised_https://gist.github.com/crised/2ed50e935354159b87b6
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15:19.54crised_somiaj: nope, I cannot install it
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15:21.31somiajcrised_: do you have debian multimedia sources and installed stuff from there.
15:21.47somiajcrised_: also the package is called libgstreamer1.0-0
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15:22.06crised_somiaj: did not get the first question
15:22.08somiajcrised_: but you want the -dev package greycat linked. But if you are getting dependency issues this is usually due to third part sources or software.
15:22.20somiajcrised_: can I see the output of 'apt-cache policy' and 'apt-cache policy libgstreamer1.0-0'
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15:23.36crised_somiaj: https://gist.github.com/crised/7944312e31388b53b254
15:24.18somiaj,v libavcodec54
15:24.19juddPackage: libavcodec54 on i386 -- wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1
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15:24.28juddPackage: libavcodec54 on i386 -- wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1
15:24.43crised_I'm on amd 64
15:24.47crised_somiaj: is that info for me?
15:25.14simonpatapondamn DMO's
15:25.21ctmjrtenshi998: are you trying to get rid of screen tearing? if so look into compton am not sure but i think ubuntu uses compiz
15:25.22somiajcrised_: so anyways, for some reason you have wheezy-multimedia packages installed that are causing you problems. You also have a ppa in your sources.list which can also cause problems
15:25.25simonpataponhad an headache trying to gte rid of
15:25.31somiaj!why not dmo
15:25.37somiaj!why not dmm
15:25.37dpkgThe deb-multimedia.org repository was once the only way of getting good multimedia support.  By the release of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" this was mostly not true and for Debian 7 "Wheezy" this situation is even better.  Libraries from dmm are known to cause incompatibilities with packages from Debian; packages may not meet the <DFSG> so are not allowed in Debian.  Use dmm as a last resort; ask me about <dmm pinning> and <dmm remove>.
15:26.00somiajtheir epochs really mess with debian packags because apt reads the versions wrong.
15:26.07ctmjr,v compton
15:26.08juddPackage: compton on i386 -- sid: 0.1~beta2-1; jessie: 0.1~beta2-1
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15:26.46tenshi998ctmjr, yeah I have screen tearing
15:26.54tenshi998but compton didn't help  either, I still have screen tearing
15:27.23tenshi998okay, I'm also trying to make xfce4 execute a ARandR bash script on startup to set up multiple monitors
15:27.35tenshi998I've put the command in session and startup but it didn't help
15:27.44crised_somiaj: :'(
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15:29.07Lopehow can I delete the old /var/cache/apt/archives files but keep the current ones?
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15:32.14tenshi998can anyone help me with this?
15:32.43tenshi998I try to have xfce4 execute a bash script upon startup but it doesn't work
15:32.47tenshi998same goes for conky
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15:34.32Lopegreycat: thanks, perfect!
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16:08.23Tachyon`Hi, I'm running Raspbian on the Pi, I have a keyboard with no alt key, only an altgr key so can only switch terminal with chvt... I'm told I can edit /etc/default/keyboard to (for example) set the windows key to work as an alt key but can find no details on how to do so exactly, how might I go about this?
16:08.47greycat!raspbian
16:08.47dpkgRaspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>.  Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian.  Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.   http://www.raspbian.org/
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16:10.17Tachyon`that question is not raspbian specific...
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16:11.23mtn_Tachyon`: then it should be easy for you to find the answer :P
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16:11.49Void2a_Hi, where is the docker.io package in jessie ?
16:12.05NoImNotNineVoltyou're putting the cart before the horse.
16:12.14NoImNotNineVoltyou should be asking if jessie supports docker at all.
16:12.30Void2a_the package was in jessie repo something like a month ago for sure
16:12.41NoImNotNineVolthttps://docs.docker.com/installation/debian/
16:12.50greycatwonders what the hell docker is, and why people keep asking about it when even dpkg doesn't know what it is
16:13.05dutchfish,version docker
16:13.06juddPackage: docker on i386 -- wheezy: 1.4-5; squeeze: 1.4-5; sid: 1.5-1; jessie: 1.5-1
16:13.07NoImNotNineVoltdocker is a lightweight pseudo-virtualization system.
16:13.19NoImNotNineVoltbased around lxc containers.
16:13.37NoImNotNineVoltwheezy's kernel was too old to support it.
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16:13.54Void2a_judd: where do you see this ?
16:14.09NoImNotNineVolti remember a coworker mentioning in passing that jessie supported it briefly, but once it went to testing, support was compromised.
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16:14.25greycat"System tray for KDE3/GNOME2 docklet applications "
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16:14.35greycatTHAT explains much of my confusion.
16:14.39Void2a_ah yes
16:14.44Void2a_the package name was docker.io
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16:14.55NoImNotNineVolthttps://packages.debian.org/source/testing/docker.io
16:14.56MiescoOkay guys, I need a digital logic simulator, now!  What do I do?
16:15.30NoImNotNineVoltMiesco: altera quartus was the standard when i was getting me EE
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16:16.33dutchfishMiesco, https://packages.debian.org/sid/glogic (also testing)
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16:17.18NoImNotNineVolthttps://packages.qa.debian.org/d/docker.io.html
16:17.58NoImNotNineVolthttps://tracker.debian.org/news/675987
16:18.16Void2a_NoImNotNineVolt: amazing! thanks a lot
16:18.22NoImNotNineVoltno docker. sucks, right? :P
16:18.29NoImNotNineVoltmaybe by 2016.
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16:37.13NoImNotNineVoltwrong channel, sorry
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16:39.34awsmHello peoples, anyone have trouble where extra monitors will only mirror sceen and are not detected when looking in system settings->display. Pretty sure im missing something....
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16:57.39GPenguinwhat can i do about "mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'" when i created that filesystem on win7 and need it on debian?
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17:00.00ArrowmasterGPenguin: i think exfat is handles through fuse
17:00.46SuperBawlzAnyone here messed with Cacti at all?
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17:01.49somiaj!exfat
17:01.49dpkgexFAT (Extended File Allocation Table, <MBR> partition ID 0x07) is a proprietary file system designed for flash drives.  A <FUSE> driver providing exFAT read/write support is packaged for Debian as exfat-fuse.  http://code.google.com/p/exfat/ .  Not to be confused with FATX.
17:02.30somiajGPenguin: there is support for it, but in the future fat32 is a bit better of a choice than exfat for compadability between win and linux. Though I am unsure if win7 lets you format fat32 anymore.
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17:04.39GPenguinsomiaj: yeah. win7 only suggested ntfs and exfat
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17:05.09GPenguini switched it around now and created fat32 on linux and test now if win7 accepts it
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17:05.32somiajGPenguin: or just install the exfat-fuse package.
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17:06.05somiajthere is also a ntfs-3g (over fuse) as well for ntfs support. fat32 is just older and thus more common (don't need to run it over fuse or isntall extra packages)
17:06.16greycatcan you then mount -t exfat /foo /bar like a normal file system, or is there ... fuse-y stuff to do first?
17:06.37somiajI think once you have the extfat-fuse installed you can mount it directally
17:06.43somiajsimilar to you can do -t ntfs-3g
17:06.48somiaj(which is over fuse)
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17:07.18maplehello everyone! I have a simple shall script that automates the installation of a package. I would like to improve it by making it more portable across various linux distributions: can I ask you for some tips? Warning: I'm really a big noob at this. http://pastebin.com/M55fZUFs
17:07.45somiajmaple: and how is this a debian support question? ##linux may be a better place.
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17:08.11maplesomiaj: sorry, I'll move there
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17:08.29greycatI'm guessing he didn't really mean "package"
17:08.56NoImNotNineVoltlooks like a package to me.
17:09.22greycatwhy would you need a shell script to simplify "apt-get install foobar", and how would it be "portable across distributions"?
17:09.47NoImNotNineVoltnot all packages are in the debian repositories.
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17:10.45greycatMaybe I'm just burned out by the weekly instances of "I'm writing a shell script to download source code and compile it for my brand new four-times-derived linux distro" in #bash.
17:10.55NoImNotNineVoltheh
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17:15.14GPenguingreycat: have you by any chance had a look at the debirf tool?
17:15.21greycatno
17:15.59GPenguincause when i look at the bug reports i get the impression they could use somebody who is very competent with scripting
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17:16.51GPenguini like the project because you can create custom debian livecds with it
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18:04.07latsniIs there a tool available to measure the distance on e.g. a maps screenshot? I can't find a useful result with a search engine ..
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18:06.32nkuttlermaps screenshot?
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18:09.18latsnijust a picture with a map and i want to measure the distance between point A and point B .. is there tool available to do that manually?
18:09.55srglatsni: gimp
18:10.10srgDoes the Postfix package automatially use a chroot?
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18:10.16srgI'm having some DNS issues
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18:12.13terafloplatsni: how it can be possible being a screenshot, do you know the scale?
18:12.15latsnisrg: thx, i tried gimp before but i missed the functionality, thanks for pointing me to it
18:13.50srglatsni: I'm pretty sure gimp has to have a measurement tool built in
18:14.30srglatsni: Yeah, it does have a measure tool. I just checked
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19:14.38jhutchinssrg: I don't believe it does by default.
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19:15.49jhutchinssrg: No, I'm wrong, it does: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Remove_Postfix_from_chroot
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19:16.44srgjhutchins: Ah, ok! Thanks. I was having a weird DNS resolution issue
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19:17.50jellystill, the default debian settings for postfix do dns resolution correctly regardless of most its processes being chrooted
19:18.29srgYeah, it was working fine for a while, but suddenly started rejecting mail due to "unable to resolve your hostname" (referring to remote MTAs)
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19:21.34jhutchinssrg: Can you resolve the names?
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19:46.07srgjhutchins: Yeah, I can resolve them using `host on command line
19:46.34srgjhutchins: I restarted Postfix, but I still get the error. Hm. I'm running unbound with localhost in my resolv.conf.
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20:04.45dimitry7hi guys. I installed debian testing on January on a server, now I want it to have the lastest packages, is it enought a apt-get dist-upgrade?
20:05.00dimitry7any other thing to consider to have it fullly updated? thank you!
20:05.06greycatapt-get update first, then apt-get dist-upgrade should be enough
20:05.17dimitry7greycat, okay man! Thank you!!
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20:08.08creichenHi-- I've lately (new install, new machine, sid) been running into an issue wherein I sporadically lose most of my key-press events in X11.  To have any register with xterm, I have to keep my keyboard key pressed and wait until key repeat has spammed enough events, then release once some events spill over.  This is with xmonad as wm and gdm3.  The problem arises sporadically; I haven't found a way to fix it short of rebooting.  Any ideas for how to debug th
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20:09.26buucreichen: try xev? read from /dev/input/event yourself?
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20:10.05jhutchinscreichen: Sounds like sid to me.
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20:11.15creichenbuu: xev makes sense for a start, thanks!  /dev/input/event is used system-wide, too, IIRC?  The console works fine (once I manage to switch).
20:11.46creichenStill not sure how to track which application gets the key event, though... but that'd probably require instrumenting the WM. :-/
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20:12.26creichenAny other WMs that have such a feature already?
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20:47.52der_Gutehi! any bashprofessionals here? i have a bashscript with a tail -n $var file >file 2. when i run this manually in shell it runs perfectly. when i run it in a script with /bin/bash the file is empty :( any ideas?
20:48.07greycathow are you setting var?
20:48.18greycatalso, "file 2" needs to be quoted it if has spaces in it
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20:49.24dondelelcaroalso, is this #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash?
20:49.48greycat(so far no bashisms have been revealed, but it wouldn't hurt to know)
20:50.08der_Gutesecond
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20:50.51der_Gutetailtable:604 is an echo output before the command
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20:51.06der_Gutethe file hasnt any spaces
20:51.32greycatso, how are you setting var?
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20:51.57der_Gutetailtable=$[htmllineend - tablelinestart]
20:52.19der_Guteboth are values and arent strings. an echo shows this
20:52.25greycatthat isn't var.  that's a different variable.  and you're using VERY ancient, obsolete math syntax.  Use $((...)) instead.
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20:53.16der_Gutesorry :) var= tailtable
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20:53.46der_Gutein my example. so it should be : tail -n $tailtable file >file 2
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20:55.42der_Gutei have no idea why it works when running it manually and it doesnt when running in a script
20:56.14greycatwell, we can't diagnose it when we don't even get to see the actual line.  Make sure it's reading the correct file, writing to the correct file, and is passing the correct arguments to tail.
20:57.57der_Guteokay i tried it without a variable and a static value instead
20:58.21der_Gutetail -n 604 /tmp/table > /tmp/table_tmp2
20:58.26der_Gutethis doesnt work in my script
20:58.43der_Gutetmp table is a html file with over 1000 lines
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20:59.07greycathow does it fail?
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20:59.27der_Gutetable_tmp2 is simply empty
20:59.51greycatfile system full?
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21:00.14der_Guteno and when running this command manually the output is correct
21:00.49greycatYou are *absolutely sure* that the *actual* command in the script, which is failing, is   tail -n 604 /tmp/table > /tmp/table_tmp2   ?
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21:02.58der_Guteabsolutely! i have copied it directly
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21:03.06greycatls -ld /tmp/table /tmp/table_2
21:03.13greycatgah, sorry
21:03.17greycatls -ld /tmp/table /tmp/table_tmp2
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21:04.50der_Gute-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33947 Apr  9 23:12 /tmp/table -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13277 Apr  9 23:12 /tmp/table_tmp2
21:05.00greycatthat is not an empty file.  it's got 13277 bytes.
21:05.10der_Guteah sorry its from manual run
21:05.18greycatrun the script, then the ls -ld again
21:05.25der_Guteokay :) moment
21:06.28der_Gute-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33947 Apr  9 23:14 /tmp/table -rw-r--r-- 1 root root     0 Apr  9 23:14 /tmp/table_tmp2
21:07.01greycatObviously /tmp/table is being changed here... are you sure /tmp/table is fully written BEFORE you run the tail command?
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21:08.14der_Gutedefinitely! the file is a result from a wget
21:08.30der_Gutesecond...idea!
21:08.31greycatthe wget isn't running in the background, or anything like that?
21:08.36der_Guteno
21:09.32der_Gutei added a sleep 10 after the wget. no change
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21:11.39greycat*shrug* stick that ls -ld into the script right after the wget, then run the whole script with:  bash -x yourscript >~/log 2>&1
21:11.49greycatthat may be overkill, but...
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21:15.43der_Gutethat worked!
21:16.08greycatthat... should not have changed the behavior.  Just should have documented what's happening.  Unless you were not running the script in bash originally.
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21:16.58greycat(But you were using obsolete bash-only arithmetic syntax, so I would have expected errors if you were running it in any other shell.)
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21:18.33der_Gutehm moment i  try to get the error back :D
21:18.56karlpinc(Sounds like a job for #bash.  ;-)
21:19.26der_Guteits a terrible job for anyone :D
21:19.58GPenguinwget has a delay option. no need for sleep :)
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21:20.16greycatif he's not running anything in the background, he shouldn't need a delay of any kind
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21:21.04greycatIs there any chance you were somehow running this script under /bin/sh instead of bash?
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21:21.54der_Guteunbelievable
21:22.03GPenguinthat would link to dash, right?
21:22.04der_Gutethats the fact:
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21:22.14greycatGPenguin: usually, yes... it's configurable
21:22.18der_Gutei used synonyms for the file to make it simpler for you
21:22.28der_Gutewhen i use the synonyms in the script all works
21:22.48der_Gutethe real path is: tail -n 604 /tmp/clicktt/clicktttmp > /tmp/clicktt/clicktttmp_table_tmp2
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21:23.04der_Gutewhen i output it to clicktttmp_table_tmp2 it wont work
21:23.14der_Gutewhen i output it to clicktttmp_table_t it works!
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21:24.43der_Guteis it possible that the filename or path is too long ?
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21:24.58greycatIf this is on Debian, no, you're nowhere near any kind of length limits.
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21:25.18greycatOn some *super* old commercial Linux systems, you are already past the 14-character filename length limit.
21:25.32der_Guteits a wheezy :D
21:25.38greycatsorry, commercial Unix, not commercial Linux
21:25.48der_Gutemaybe my system adapts to my super old syntax :)
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21:26.30maazuhi all
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21:29.52der_Gutethe problem is that i really think my script worked properly until i added some script
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21:30.02porton`apt-cache search '' | grep -i unity` I can't find "Unity" package. I am not a fan of Unity but wonder why it is missing in Debian
21:30.15der_Gutenow i think all files that i create for temp are empty unless i change their filenames O.o
21:30.23ariscopno connmanctl in the wheezy connman package?
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21:31.58karlpincporton, ariscop: Use apt-file or search via packages.debian.org.
21:32.27karlpincporton: Maybe it's not in wheezy, but is in jessie?  Or maybe it's just not there.  Dunno.
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21:33.34ariscopyeah, looks like connmanctl isn't built
21:33.35ariscopwonder why
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21:37.09marceloamorimhello, anyone knows how should I install the mysql connector odbc to use this for asterisk? this new 7.8 I couldn't find the apt-get mysql-connector-odbc
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21:37.59marceloamorimthe right config is under the /etc/odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini
21:38.00maazumarceloamorim: did you know there 'magic-tab' completion from bash # for apt-get ?
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21:38.05marceloamorimboth files are empty
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21:38.42maazumarceloamorim: so, apt-get mysql- *magic-tab* *magic-tab* will reveal all mysql related packages
21:38.46centrxmarceloamorim, Looks like it's called libmyodbc
21:39.10marceloamorimmaazu: I didn't find any mysql-connector-odbc, there is another name for this?
21:39.55maazumarceloamorim: dont ask me, ask *magic-tab* *magic-tab*
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21:40.08marceloamorimcentrx: I installed this package, but didn't rewrite the odbcinist.ini and odbc.ini
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21:41.23centrxmarceloamorim, maybe you need to install unixodbc as well?
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21:42.03marceloamorimI have both files, but they are empty =( and I'm not sure if I write myself both files and point the right modules libodbcmyS.so and libmyodbc5.so
21:42.24marceloamorimI dont know if gonna work
21:42.52marceloamorimI install unixodbc alreadyu and unixodbc-dev
21:43.07marceloamoriminstalled*
21:43.11marceloamorimsorry about my english
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21:59.08blonkelhey i got some stuff in /etc/rc.local but it seems the enviroment is different then if i run it from openssh shell.
21:59.41blonkelfor example date from etc/rc.local says : "Thu Apr 9 23:35:27 CEST 2015" and if i run it from shell it says "Do 9. Apr 23:32:59 CEST 2015"
22:00.03blonkelhow can i fix this behavour?
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22:02.38karlpincblonkel: It sounds like a localization issue.  Are you logging in with the same username both locally and remotely?  If not then it could be in your pam.d config for ssh, maybe.
22:02.46karlpincs/not/so/
22:03.02blonkeli log in with the same user yes
22:03.08blonkel(root)
22:03.59blonkeli had in the past many problem like this for running stuff on boot, even with some java applications. I always used 'dirty' hacks so currently im searching for a good way to solve this issue
22:04.10karlpincblonkel: Ah.  Root can be tricky.  (Since you really should not login as root remotely to an interactive shell.)  Probably ssh is doing something safe.
22:04.35Posterdatihi
22:04.52karlpincblonkel: You could look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or /etc/pam.d/ssh and see what's being done differently than from a console login.
22:05.17blonkelkarlpinc well it seems on boot the /etc/rc.local has the wrong enviroment, and the openssh shell the right one
22:05.27karlpincblonkel: Does it have the same problem if you log in as something other than root?
22:05.32Posterdatiplease I've got problem with usb disks on wheezy, as normal user system asks for user password to unmount the device...
22:05.50blonkelwell others use have the same as the openssh shell
22:06.03blonkelonly /etc/rc.local is different
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22:06.54karlpincblonkel: I don't understand.  rc.local is run at boot, which has nothing to do with loggin in, either from the console or remotely.
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22:07.40blonkelyeah then the root env is diff from the normal shell enviroment
22:07.48blonkelboot*
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22:08.14g00seCan some kind soul remind me how to move cups out of the Pending state at the command line?
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22:13.18schultzawhat is the best gui based config editor for openldap/slapd ? i'm a beginner, and want to become an openldap expert as fast as possible.
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22:16.53valdynschultza: there's not a free one
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22:17.18schultzawhat do you mean? phpldapadmin and ldap admin tool are not free?
22:17.19gajovyschultza: I'd suggest learning how to edit ldif if you really want to become an expert. I think I've once used JXplorer, butwouldn't know it's the best.
22:17.35valdynschultza: they are just ldap browsers...
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22:18.20schultzaphpldapadmin allows you to add/edit/remove entries, how is it just a browser?
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22:19.17valdynschultza: I tought you were looking for a GUI with configuration support. I know what phpldapadmin is. I thought you were looking for something else.
22:19.49schultzaI was just trying to get a sense of the gui's out there that can "configure" the ldap server/database.
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22:23.43valdynschultza: i liked ldapvi
22:24.02valdynschultza: but for the actual base config a plain text editor is probably better
22:24.04schultzaldapvi.. is that like vi editor working with config files?>
22:24.22valdynschultza: no, it works with the actual ldap server
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22:25.29schultzaOk. I will practice ldif files and phpldapadmin. thanks for the info
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22:31.31GPenguinfeels kind of weird to ask but shouldnt ~ be in the path?
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22:47.40blonkelkarlpinc: heres what i mean: http://pastebin.com/EUdqgzf5
22:48.15blonkelas you can see, /etc/rc.local behavours different (other locale ? other env ?) as normal shell
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22:50.20blonkelany suggestions are pretty welcome to solve this, couse this also leads to some broken init.d scripts which wont work on boot time..
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22:55.28blonkeland heres the proof that locale is wrong on boot time: http://pastebin.com/4fncLGc5
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23:23.23icaritowhat would be a recommended system tray update notifier?
23:23.39icaritoin jessie?
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23:30.44linearhappinesshey there
23:31.13linearhappinessanyone present and eager to converse?
23:31.31linearhappinessabout documentaries..
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23:33.47arielsanflohello
23:34.07arielsanfloi am from colombia
23:34.16arielsanflohelp
23:34.26linearhappinesshey
23:34.29arielsanflohow erase error
23:34.47linearhappinesswhat error?
23:34.52arielsanflobash: /root/.rvm/scripts/rvm: No existe el fichero o el directorio
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23:37.12beestsounds pretty self-evident to me
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23:38.49arielsanflohttp://paste.debian.net/166014/
23:38.59arielsanfloerro rvm install
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23:48.07donofrioanyone got time help me get 3d working on my system tonight - dmesg @ http://paste.debian.net/166016/
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23:54.57mtn_donofrio: have you tried the debian wiki yet?
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