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00:08.16 | ProfessorKaos64 | is there a way to suppress the "no packages found matching" kickback from dpkg-query? |
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00:11.42 | jhutchins | ytrezq: See your pm. |
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00:13.06 | jhutchins | ProfessorKaos64: What are you actually trying to do? |
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00:13.23 | ProfessorKaos64 | suppress when a package doesn't exist |
00:13.33 | ProfessorKaos64 | in case a user specify's a pkg not in the apt-cache |
00:13.36 | jhutchins | ProfessorKaos64: No, what are you actually trying to do? |
00:14.01 | ProfessorKaos64 | validating pkgs in a script for Debian wheezy |
00:14.08 | ProfessorKaos64 | dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Status}\n' free |
00:14.09 | ProfessorKaos64 | is fine |
00:14.11 | jhutchins | ProfessorKaos64: The desired response of an invalid packate is "no packages found matching". |
00:14.15 | ProfessorKaos64 | is finedpkg-query -W --showformat='${Status}\n' XYZ is not |
00:14.22 | ProfessorKaos64 | I know that. |
00:14.52 | phy1729 | use the exit code and redirect to /dev/null |
00:14.54 | jhutchins | ProfessorKaos64: Ok, thanks, I don't know the answer but that's a better question. |
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00:15.51 | maroloccio | jessie becoming "stable".. when? |
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00:16.13 | phy1729 | !jessie |
00:16.13 | dpkg | The release following Debian 7 "Wheezy" is codenamed "Jessie" (the cowgirl in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 8. It is the current <testing> distribution. Use the #debian-next channel on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net) for support. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00004.html . See also <jessie alpha>, <jessie freeze>, <jessie kernel>. |
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00:16.32 | phy1729 | hrm iirc its late April |
00:16.50 | maroloccio | thanks |
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00:17.11 | umadbro_ragequit | :( I just installed wheezy.... oh well |
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00:20.28 | iWaldo_ | anybody have experience installing radeon opencl drivers in a headless server? |
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00:21.01 | SpeakerToMeat | Hi. |
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00:21.43 | jhutchins | iWaldo_: Um, why? |
00:21.53 | SpeakerToMeat | Question. I've upgraded to Jessie. After fighting a few errors here and there, it tries to start to default, but gnome will not start. In the logs I get: gnome-session-check-accelerated: Helper exited with code 256" but I do have glx acceleration, and I can startx as root. |
00:22.01 | SpeakerToMeat | Any tips on what I could check please? |
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00:22.45 | iWaldo_ | jhutchins: to use dem SIMD instructions! |
00:23.02 | jhutchins | SpeakerToMeat: That sounds awfully specific, there is #debian-next on oftc.net |
00:23.02 | SpeakerToMeat | That return is the last entry in this... http://hastebin.com/xivejabara.vhdl |
00:23.19 | iWaldo_ | i've been toying around with some number crunching code, and it would be fun to see if i can learn how to program for a radeon |
00:23.36 | iWaldo_ | i threw an old one that was laying around into a little mini-itx server i just built |
00:23.51 | iWaldo_ | and it sounds like some recent changes to the catalyst drivers have removed X as a dependency |
00:24.06 | iWaldo_ | but all of the info i can find is sparse, so it'd be great to talk with somebody who can help |
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00:30.11 | maZer`- | hi all |
00:30.20 | maZer`- | grub-install: warning: your core.img is unusually large. It won't fit in the embedding area. |
00:30.45 | maZer`- | is there any way i can create a bios boot partition on mbr to prevent this? :D |
00:30.56 | maZer`- | but i cant delete my first partition, or move it :( |
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01:35.26 | inthl | is libt1-dev removed from jessie..? I can not find it any more |
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01:37.07 | acidjazz | hey all.. whats the easiest way to make a process a daemon i can restart/etc.. systemd ???.serivce? or init.d w/ start-stop-daemon |
01:37.09 | dvs | ,v libt1-dev |
01:37.10 | judd | Package: libt1-dev on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.1.2-3+squeeze1; squeeze: 5.1.2-3+squeeze1; wheezy: 5.1.2-3.6 |
01:37.59 | inthl | judd, I just found https://bugs.debian.org/638759 - so it is removed :/ |
01:38.00 | judd | No package named 'just' was found in wheezy/i386. |
01:38.38 | inthl | dvs, i meant you ;> |
01:39.01 | phix | dvs is a brand of skate shoes |
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01:42.08 | dvs | ??? |
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01:50.40 | acidjazz | so noone on this custom service/daemon thing? |
01:51.11 | MrMonkey31 | wait a tic, there is actually a debian 8? so my april fool's trick chat wasn't even a good trick? =-{ |
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01:51.40 | Cpuroast | Debian Jessie |
01:52.04 | Cpuroast | which isn't released yet |
01:54.20 | OSVG | Jessie isn't "stable" yet, it's certainly released. |
01:54.21 | b1eedr | april 25th i think |
01:55.04 | crane | but this shouldnt keep you from using it now already |
01:55.06 | Cpuroast | Jessie is still "Testing" |
01:55.09 | Cpuroast | and no |
01:55.15 | Cpuroast | it's pretty much RC1 |
01:55.17 | Cpuroast | so yah |
01:55.21 | Cpuroast | it pretty stable |
01:55.27 | Cpuroast | testing is frozen and all |
01:55.37 | crane | rc2 if you take a look at the installer ;) |
01:56.05 | Cpuroast | ah |
01:56.12 | Cpuroast | haven't had to install jessie in a while |
01:56.13 | Cpuroast | :) |
01:56.23 | Cpuroast | RC1 was the last one I used |
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01:56.53 | crane | using it already in production. since a few weeks. did not stumple into any nasty bugs for my stuff |
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01:58.18 | phy1729 | When do security fixes for wheezy end? |
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01:58.24 | Sheraf | Hi, how can i have the latest chromium being in the stable version of debian? |
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02:02.06 | nononono_ | I have installed Debian 8 but I noticed big regression since Debian 7.8. I can't even change screen resolution and fan spins faster. Probably drivers are not installed by default. |
02:02.45 | nononono_ | and system startup is 1.5x slower than in Wheezy (maybe because of multiarch) but I thought systemd is faster |
02:02.55 | dvs | nononono_: Debian 8 isn't released yet. If it's a bug, file a report before it gets released. |
02:03.17 | nononono_ | I'm not sure if it's a bug. How can I help you? |
02:03.32 | OSVG | You can check the bug tracker to see if others are reporting similar behavior, to start. |
02:03.50 | OSVG | You can also verify that you actually do have your drivers installed and whether or not that resolves the behavior. |
02:04.51 | Canar | what kernel version is 7.8? |
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02:05.14 | Canar | nononono_: have you tried different kernels? |
02:05.46 | nononono_ | My path: 1) got unofficial RC2 Jessie (with firmware) into USB. 2) graphical expert install 64-bit. 3) selected only XFCE (no KDE, no GNOME, etc). 4) restart. |
02:06.21 | OSVG | Is the boot slow if you boot to a bash shell rather than xfce? |
02:06.37 | nononono_ | I had a choice of 2 kernels: one with version number, one without version number |
02:06.48 | dvs | it's the same kernel |
02:07.27 | Sheraf | Hi, how can i have the latest chromium being in the stable version of debian? |
02:07.37 | nononono_ | OSVG: I haven't tried it yet but the initialization process is slow (systemd-fsck the slowest part) |
02:07.43 | Canar | Sheraf: build it from source control? =3 |
02:07.57 | Sheraf | is there no .deb ? |
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02:08.16 | Sheraf | gmail is saying i have an outdated version now (v37) |
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02:12.53 | nononono_ | this is my dmesg http://pastebin.com/qmLnVyWs I can't find "systemd-fsck" messages that slow down startup but maybe I need another command to show them |
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02:49.30 | nononono_ | My GPU is detected as product: RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4530/4570/545v] [1002:9553] but lhsw-gtk says "this device hasn't been claimed" |
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02:49.59 | nononono_ | in case of debian Wheezy I had no issues with screen resolution, etc |
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02:54.36 | nononono_ | my installed packages http://pastebin.com/0vhLXHJV and dmesg http://pastebin.com/qmLnVyWs keep it and look up what's wrong |
02:54.46 | nononono_ | it's late so I have to go |
02:55.43 | nononono_ | My setup: unofficial multiarch Debian Jessie RC2 (with firmware) expert graphical netinstall from USB, only XFCE, most settings were default |
02:56.36 | nononono_ | Startup is slower (systemd-fsck is the slowest), I can't change screen resolution and other screen settings (looks as if drivers weren't loaded or do not support my hardware) |
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02:56.53 | nononono_ | in Debian Wheezy 64-bit (no multiarch) - no troubles |
02:57.36 | nononono_ | cat /proc/version: Linux version 3.16.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Debian 4.8.4-1) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt7-1 (2015-03-01) |
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02:59.01 | nononono_ | see you tomorrow, it's really late, I hope it's enough to examine the problem :) also take my lsmod http://pastebin.com/9GA3ELYq |
03:00.11 | nononono_ | Last one - lshw http://pastebin.com/vanf8mnt |
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03:33.49 | kazblox | Quike makefile issue |
03:33.52 | kazblox | Quick* |
03:34.01 | kazblox | Need it solved quickly |
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04:01.53 | joegiampaoli | Hi all! I want to use debian "testing" instead of "stable", if I install a "testing" release once it becomes frozen is it safer from breakage or buggy updates? Thanks! |
04:08.45 | somiaj | joegiampaoli: I would suggest using "jessie" in your sources.list. This means you will stablize with jessie (which is happening soon) |
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04:09.13 | somiaj | joegiampaoli: you don't want to use "testing", because once jessie is released, a floodgate of new packages get pushed in and there is lots of breakcage in this time. |
04:09.49 | somiaj | joegiampaoli: but once things settle down and you find that jessie no longer suits your needs you can upgrade to the testing version at that time. It could break (it will time to time depending on what you use). And it has no security support. But for the most part "it works" |
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04:10.31 | somiaj | joegiampaoli: but right now jessie has less than 100 rc bugs, it has been frozen a while and a release is getting close. It runs fairly well. It just has no security support. |
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04:11.50 | Ooze | jamisen? |
04:12.29 | joegiampaoli | somiaj: of course! I meant to say better Jessie for now, I do remember that I did that once and did get the issue you are explaining. That's all I needed to know, I am not so concerned about security just newer packages or versions of libraries and stability, so in your opinion you would suggest that now is a much better bet to go with Jessie? Thank you so much! |
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04:13.38 | somiaj | joegiampaoli: Yea jessie is close to being released, it is a very good preview of what the release will be and will run well (minus security) |
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04:16.26 | joegiampaoli | somiaj: Perfect my friend! You have explained to me better than what I could really google up about "testing" releases and when they become more stable, will give it a go! Cheers! :) |
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04:18.22 | kris_ | vid just added https://youtu.be/apQkQcDpMkM PLZ read description and maybe comment why im unable to install properlly |
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04:23.00 | pengown | when I try to start apache2 i get this error apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName |
04:23.06 | pengown | and apache does not start |
04:23.18 | pengown | ive always been able to connect to it on localhost before |
04:23.34 | pengown | when i grep for it in chkconfig it is off |
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04:25.20 | jnewt | running wheezy, have something that cannot find libstdc++.so.6 so i used apt-file to find that the file is in libstdc++6, which i also found here (for ubuntu): https://askubuntu.com/questions/409821/install-package-for-missing-libraries . i already have that at the latest version, so i need to know what to do next to resolve the dependency |
04:25.53 | joegiampaoli | somiaj: just one more question, will Jessie get security support once it becomes released? Do I have to add extra lines to my sources when this happens? or does apt do it automagically? |
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04:27.37 | jnewt | maybe i need to add wheezy backports to my search? |
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04:29.57 | pengown | i got it to stop giving that message by adding Servername localhost but it still will not actually start :( |
04:30.02 | pengown | no error messages |
04:30.09 | pengown | what am i overlooking |
04:30.56 | pengown | never had this problem before :-/ |
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04:35.05 | pengown | i thought silence in unix means it works but literally no error about apache starting |
04:35.09 | pengown | its not on though |
04:35.14 | pengown | for whatever reason |
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04:36.57 | pengown | nothing in logs but me restarting it either |
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04:38.48 | kris_ | vid just added https://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=54txAN1v5-o PLZ read description and maybe comment why im unable to install properlly, 10++ HOURS TRIED INSTALLING SYSTEM AND all goes fine it seems all to the end of it then it shows me a black screen when i bootup the "NEW INSTALLATION"... |
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04:40.08 | pengown | well its not technically an error but i see it come up and shutdown like every second |
04:40.14 | pengown | no reasoning as to why though |
04:40.22 | pengown | just starting then shutdown |
04:41.19 | pengown | last line has it as starting |
04:41.24 | pengown | i need help :( |
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04:47.54 | pengown | httpd is already running chkconfig and my browser say otherwise |
04:47.55 | pengown | BLAH |
04:51.36 | kris_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54txAN1v5-o PLZ read description and maybe comment why im unable to install properlly, 10++ HOURS TRIED INSTALLING SYSTEM AND all goes fine it seems all to the end of it then it shows me a black screen when i bootup the "NEW INSTALLATION"... |
04:53.07 | pengown | im so confused |
04:53.42 | pengown | ill look at your youtube and see if i have any ideas |
04:53.49 | pengown | im having no luck with apache2 |
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04:57.05 | pengown | most of that video isnt even of the installation |
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04:59.09 | pengown | you might could try using the netinstall iso so you dont have to download wifi drivers on separate usb |
04:59.19 | pengown | thats the iso that worked for me |
04:59.36 | pengown | im on encrypted lvm works fine |
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05:01.25 | pengown | i dont have a bios capable of booting to usb but is it maybe trying to boot to one that isnt there? i know mine just goes to hdd if no cd is in there |
05:01.28 | pengown | but idk |
05:01.33 | pengown | best i can come up with |
05:01.37 | kris_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54txAN1v5-o PLZ read description and maybe comment why im unable to install properlly, 10++ HOURS TRIED INSTALLING SYSTEM AND all goes fine it seems all to the end of it then it shows me a black screen when i bootup the "NEW INSTALLATION"... |
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05:14.45 | kris_ | each install has ben taking like 10+ hours to complete everytime, because i have tried to ive used Use entire partition VLM & get an encrypted hd........even need to download the wifi drivers onto an extra usb to then confiirm lol its in on the laptop i wanna install on if its inside there no after 3 installations and 5-6 days continuely going on, i will have to give up it, because after the finally installattions are done and tell me to take out the |
05:14.45 | kris_ | <PROTECTED> |
05:14.46 | kris_ | <PROTECTED> |
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05:46.13 | horrovac | kris_: That looks as if your boot loader isn't working properly. |
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05:49.43 | kris_ | what can i do now then? as everything else has ben installed without problems, i stilll just see a blinkmking " _ " on my black screen u know....... |
05:51.10 | horrovac | Well, troubleshoot. Try re-installing the boot loader. Check if everything is there. Verify that the config is ok. |
05:52.45 | fragtastic | sounds like the bootloader, probably grub, didn't get installed during initial setup |
05:53.11 | fragtastic | or an update killed it |
05:54.19 | fragtastic | i've got an odd display corruption issue here though after coming back from sleep/suspend/hibernate |
05:54.41 | fragtastic | the display becomes garbled for the most part |
05:55.16 | fragtastic | desktop gets random black lines/bars on it and the wallpaper has bands in it |
05:55.30 | fragtastic | and text becomes garbled |
05:56.40 | fragtastic | issue is on debian stable and testing |
05:56.57 | fragtastic | intel graphics btw |
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06:06.46 | darxmurf | plop |
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06:12.13 | kris_ | What has went wrong with my install??? 3-4 times the same things happen, ben installing for over an week now!!... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54txAN1v5-o |
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06:13.43 | horrovac | kris_: You need to troubleshoot it, very unlikely that someone here will be able to solve your problem remotely. |
06:14.10 | kris_ | how? |
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06:14.58 | kris_ | i dont even know what troubleshoot means, or is done at all.... |
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06:15.48 | kris_ | horrovac |
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06:17.35 | fragtastic | kris_, might help http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=120208 |
06:17.56 | horrovac | I already told you once. Boot with the installation medium, try reinstalling the bootloader. Verify everything is there. Search on the internet. |
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06:18.24 | fragtastic | http://askubuntu.com/questions/44374/blank-screen-with-blinking-cursor-after-install |
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06:18.34 | horrovac | Try to solve the problem insteas of repeatedly asking something that will likely get no helpful answer, or merely meta-answers. Like this one. |
06:18.45 | fragtastic | could need the nomodeset option |
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06:31.47 | dalo | Hi folk. Maybe I ought to introduce myself, my name is Daniel, 31, from Sweden. |
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06:33.20 | Zipf | hello, i have a debian sqeezy box running perfect. I have one problem. Its connected to my monitor via kvm, everything is working fine, except if i stay a few days far from the box, when i try use kvm, somehow seesm the usb was powered off, or inactive, or something like, if i unplug the usb and plug again, it back to works .. so the question is, is there any cmd i could use to disablethe option to usb goes sleep or something ? |
06:34.10 | horrovac | I don't think it's the USB power, it will be the KVM itself. |
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06:36.53 | Zipf | horrovac i know its the usb power, cause ive did some cmd last month (on the last reboot) and it worked, tweo days ago we had to reboot due a power failure, and now its happnening again |
06:37.15 | Zipf | the main problem i can't find the page where i found the correct cmd |
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06:38.54 | horrovac | Zipf: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4702216/controlling-a-usb-power-supply-on-off-with-linux ? |
06:40.00 | Zipf | i found that link, but i do'nt get it, so lets say i want diable usb port autosusped |
06:40.10 | Zipf | echo suspend > /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/power/level <-- that will do that ? |
06:40.14 | horrovac | No. |
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06:40.22 | horrovac | That will do the opposite. |
06:40.33 | horrovac | You need to echo "on" |
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06:40.38 | Zipf | ok |
06:40.41 | zalami | (Redmine will be installed there) that is owned by the user web1 and the group client0. |
06:40.50 | zalami | . how do I make a group client0 with a user web1 ? |
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07:38.26 | K-202 | Hi. Any solution to problem with default screen resolution 1024x768 (instead of 1366x768) without no ability to change and slower system startup (systemd-fsck) on Debian 8 Jessie? You got my lsmod, mesg, lshw etc. If you want it again, check channel logs. |
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07:48.36 | jelly | K-202: don't see any URL from your nick in the last 7 days |
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07:58.22 | K-202 | jelly: I can't find logs from today night |
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07:59.00 | K-202 | http://infobot.rikers.org/%23debian/20150409.html.gz :( not found |
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08:00.15 | kochikame | hey is Debian the most secure mainstream desktop OS? |
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08:00.29 | horrovac | depends |
08:00.41 | kochikame | depends on what? |
08:01.12 | horrovac | Everything. What you mean by that. You request a generalisation that has no meaning. |
08:01.31 | horrovac | It's quite secure, yes. |
08:02.57 | K-202 | So I installed Debian 8 Jelly multiarch (graphical expert install 64bit) with XFCE and I can't change screen resolution and other screen options (it's just 1024x768). Debian 8 boots slower (systemd-fsck is slow). In case of Debian 7.8 Wheezy I everything worked after installation. |
08:03.07 | kochikame | Ubuntu says UK's security agency said Ubuntu is the most secure mainstream desktop OS |
08:03.52 | horrovac | Depending on what they consider a mainstream desktop OS, yes, might be. |
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08:06.41 | j_t | Is there a list of who donated how much to debian? |
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08:07.41 | kochikame | hey |
08:07.49 | kochikame | horrovac, |
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08:32.49 | ntz | hello |
08:33.12 | ntz | I need to free some space in /var ... is it safe do delete /var/cache/apt/archives/* ?? |
08:33.21 | ntz | there is almost 1GB of packages |
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08:33.56 | CissWit | ntz: apt-get clean |
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08:34.44 | ntz | thanks |
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09:05.37 | gry | hi! the debian installer complains that non-free wifi firmware is missing, and the manual network setup doesn't have an option to enter wireless network name. should I take that the netinst version doesn't come with the non-free firmware? |
09:06.03 | jelly | gry: that is correct |
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09:06.26 | jelly | if you can't bring firmware on a usb stick, try |
09:06.29 | jelly | !firmware images |
09:06.29 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
09:06.51 | kochikame | I want to know how hard would it be for a Windows user to switch to Debian? |
09:06.59 | kochikame | I have supported hardware I guess |
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09:07.57 | CissWit | depends how dependent you are to windows only software |
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09:09.28 | gry | jelly: ok; it's only one package, I'll try to put it onto a second flash drive I think. |
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09:13.35 | kochikame | CissWit, I use Opensource software like hexchat/vlc/libreoffice/thunderbird/firefox/clamav |
09:13.51 | kochikame | I don't have or use Microsoft Services or accounts |
09:13.53 | kochikame | eitherways |
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09:15.09 | likecolacola | i have been using debian stable fro about 7 months.. if i upgrade to testing now that i have some stuff installed into it, there's possibility of breaking something right? |
09:15.10 | kochikame | CissWit, also I use gpg/otr if required |
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09:17.10 | Majikthise | likecolacola: yes there is a small chance that things will break, because the software in 'testing' is not as thoroughly-tested as in 'stable'. |
09:17.45 | Majikthise | kochikame: sounds like debian would work fine for you then |
09:18.13 | Majikthise | kochikame: or if you want more-recent software than debian offers, try Mint |
09:18.28 | likecolacola | Majikthise, but the software i already have on stable (the version), when i upgrade it's a possibility that debian testing does not support it? |
09:18.45 | warbaque | mint is quite nice out of the box |
09:19.13 | Majikthise | likecolacola: the software in debian testing is newer than in stable, so yes, if you have a program which relies upon a specific old version of a library, it might break. |
09:19.33 | kochikame | Majikthise, the problem is I don't want closed source software at all |
09:19.37 | kochikame | so Debian Main it is |
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09:19.48 | gry | my partitioning is odd. i see main inside hdd in /dev/sdb*, while the flash drive is in /dev/sda*. |
09:19.49 | babilen | likecolacola: It should be noted that jessie (current testing) is scheduled for release in about two weeks. I wouldn't necessarily install wheezy boxes right now. |
09:19.50 | kochikame | but I guess I might have to wait for version 8 |
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09:20.16 | yei | hi ! |
09:20.18 | CissWit | kochikame: then you should be fine |
09:20.32 | kochikame | ok |
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09:20.45 | kochikame | CissWit, but I want version 8.x |
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09:20.49 | kochikame | it has beautiful GUI |
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09:20.56 | kochikame | called Gnome 3.14 |
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09:21.11 | kochikame | is it still in production? |
09:21.19 | likecolacola | babilen, Majikthise ok thanks... |
09:21.20 | CissWit | what you can do is to install debian testing |
09:21.25 | CissWit | that what i did on my last laptop |
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09:22.33 | CissWit | when the new version will be released, it will be already installed for you |
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09:22.43 | CissWit | its pretty stable now and you shouldn't experience any issue |
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09:23.07 | kochikame | CissWit, iso link? should I install Debian Jessie Beta or Testing? |
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09:24.27 | CissWit | kochikame: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
09:25.05 | CissWit | install jessie (jessie is the code name of the actual testing, and is the next release) |
09:25.39 | kochikame | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-jessie-DI-rc2-amd64-CD-1.iso |
09:25.41 | kochikame | this one? |
09:25.56 | kochikame | Is this also a live CD? |
09:26.21 | CissWit | if you have an internet connection, you should use the netinst install |
09:26.29 | CissWit | i mean, during the installation |
09:26.39 | CissWit | i know you have one, i wouldn't be talking to you otherwise :) |
09:26.48 | kochikame | hah |
09:26.48 | kochikame | ok |
09:26.58 | kochikame | but I want a liveCD |
09:26.59 | likecolacola | babilen, Majikthise, i am in a little trouble... i need to install odoo, i followed some tutorial (it's not in the repositories) and apparently everything worked until i tried to use it and now it's broken... i don't know if i should upgrade to testing and then try an easier installation package |
09:27.18 | likecolacola | i don't even know how to clean the system from all the odoo things i already installed manually |
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09:29.55 | kochikame | CissWit, what is the version of kernel on Jessie RC2? |
09:30.28 | CissWit | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/linux-image-amd64 3.16 |
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09:33.01 | kochikame | but kernel.org shows no such release |
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09:33.20 | kochikame | there is 3.14 and then 3.18 |
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09:35.46 | jelly | kochikame: that is correct. |
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09:38.20 | jelly | kochikame: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/10/msg00543.html |
09:39.54 | jelly | kochikame: and https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/11/msg00154.html from the same thread, if you want even more details |
09:40.20 | kochikame | jelly, why cannot we just pick 3.18? |
09:40.30 | kochikame | it is more updated an has official linux kernel support |
09:41.09 | jelly | kochikame: "official linux kernel support" does not commit to keeping that support for 2+ years |
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09:41.30 | jelly | thus, a distro cannot rely on it |
09:41.53 | kochikame | ok |
09:42.04 | kochikame | When version 8 likely to be released? |
09:42.09 | jelly | !wwjr |
09:42.09 | dpkg | Debian 8 "Jessie" will release on 2015-04-25; ask me about <wheezy->jessie>. There's plenty of bugs still to squash so ask me about <how-can-i-help>, <jessie freeze>, <jessie pool 1>. See <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html> |
09:42.40 | jelly | Vendetta: please disable your script/bot replying to !w |
09:42.47 | kochikame | ok |
09:42.54 | kochikame | 25th of April it is then |
09:43.01 | jelly | maybe. |
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09:49.40 | peterrooney | !jessie pool 1 |
09:49.40 | dpkg | ! petn-randall=2015-04-25 jellÿ=2016-01-01 gsimmons=2015-08-27 peterrooney=2014-11-11 babÄ«len=2015-05-23 themÃÂll=2015-06-23 abrötman=2015-07-23 |
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09:50.30 | jelly | looks like you're going to lose, peterrooney |
09:51.01 | jelly | dpkg: factinfo jessie pool 1 |
09:51.02 | dpkg | jessie pool 1 -- created by themill <~stuart@themill.user.oftc.net> at Wed May 1 01:44:20 2013 (708 days); last modified at Sun Jul 28 08:57:11 2013 by babilen!~babilen@babilen.user.oftc.net; it has been requested 90 times, last by peterrooney, 1m 22s ago. |
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09:57.10 | biledemon | hi. I let owncloud create its own mysql database and user by typing in my mysql root account during installation. When logging in to mysql with root and checking out the users I noticed the account owncloud created has % under the host column. I think % means that it's accessible from any host. Is this desirable? (I'm still a mysql noob). |
09:57.26 | biledemon | woops wrong channel. sorry |
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10:17.10 | mr_claus_ | hi, what is the most simple way to create an initrd for a raspberry on an x64 arch? |
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10:28.10 | g00se | Was messing about with a Java app yesterday to listen to port 9999 and can see via netstat that port is _still_ listening, though the process is long dead but now it seems to be inetd. What gives? |
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10:44.56 | gry | during the install the ntfs (windows) partition is marked as 'B', and i do not understand which one is grub. i only see 1) ntfs 2) 32GB 3) 27GB (other linux distro's /) 4) 1.4GB (swap of the other distro). what does the 'B' mean and where is grub? |
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10:48.00 | horrovac | B probably stands for "bootable", grub should not be installed on a partition but outside of it, in MBR or something like that. |
10:48.51 | horrovac | With UEFI and MPT partitions this has become far more complicated. I find myself incompetent again. |
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11:02.49 | gry | horrovac: thanks. why is the partition '3' (old linux) not marked as bootable? |
11:02.58 | gry | horrovac: because only grub can boot it? |
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11:03.20 | jelly | gry: the bootable flag is not relevant for linux |
11:03.33 | jelly | ignore it. |
11:03.36 | gry | ah ok |
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11:03.50 | gry | i should also ignore that it doesn't show grub, right? |
11:04.08 | horrovac | "show" where? |
11:04.10 | jelly | probably |
11:04.27 | gry | horrovac: in the installer where it asks what partition to use |
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11:04.49 | jelly | gry: do you have a GPT partition table and an UEFI firmware, or a DOS-MBR partition table format and BIOS firmware? |
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11:04.56 | gry | i point it to a free partition and said to use as 'ext4 jornaling' for '/' |
11:05.11 | gry | jelly, i have a bios |
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11:05.38 | jelly | then parts of grub are installed outside any partition, in the "unused" space before the first one |
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11:51.27 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, I just set up LogWatch, I under if I need to have a mail server so Logwatch can send me daily emails? |
11:52.01 | phix | Ephexeve: You should have a local mail server regardless |
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11:52.48 | Ephexeve | phix: Well, I haven't configured any mail server, I just wanted Logwatch to send daily emails to my gmail.com. I am a bit noob at that still. |
11:53.06 | gry | https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/svetlana/m/debian-installer/ does this picture look ok? i don't understand why it says it has to format the 'swap' partition again (i don't necessarily need swap, i have 4GB of ram and i only use like 500MB normally) |
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11:53.36 | gry | or how it knows that it is swap and not something else |
11:54.03 | Majikthise | it knows it's swap because the partition is marked as type 'linux swap' in the partition table |
11:54.15 | Majikthise | and formatting it again won't matter. Just do it. |
11:54.31 | gry | k, thanks; laters |
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12:01.32 | likecolacola | hey... i just upgraded from stable to testing and am trying to make a backup but the os wont recognize properly the usb hard drive.. |
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12:02.33 | horrovac | You have upgraded the kernel? |
12:02.58 | likecolacola | yes |
12:03.17 | horrovac | But you are running the old one, you haven't rebooted yet? |
12:03.45 | likecolacola | oh, haven't reboot yet, i am trying to make a backup(dumb me did not make it before the upgrade) |
12:04.07 | horrovac | Well you won't be able to, over USB anywas. |
12:04.10 | horrovac | anyway. |
12:04.23 | likecolacola | horrovac, but it recognize usb drives |
12:04.42 | likecolacola | i have successfully mounted a usb drive, even nautilus do it automatically |
12:04.48 | horrovac | Your running kernel (old) tries to load modules for USB storage but they're replaced with new ones, so they don't work. |
12:04.48 | likecolacola | but when i try with this harddrive this is what ig et |
12:04.50 | likecolacola | http://paste.debian.net/165900/ |
12:05.24 | likecolacola | ^ output from lsusb recognize it as Myson Century, and sudo fdisk -l show that strange stuff about /dev/sdb |
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12:05.33 | likecolacola | horrovac, ok... |
12:05.48 | likecolacola | i hope that when i restart the system will boot successfully xdd |
12:05.51 | likecolacola | horrovac, thanks |
12:06.09 | horrovac | Good luck. |
12:06.25 | likecolacola | :> |
12:08.03 | otyugh | hey there. I'm using a very tiny computer and my root is taking 3.8GO on 4GO. How can I lighten this all ? |
12:08.11 | otyugh | I don't think I installed anything heavy |
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12:08.47 | horrovac | Quick fix, do apt-get clean |
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12:09.46 | otyugh | horrovac: is there more to do ? |
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12:10.11 | otyugh | horrovac: I mean, I really don't feel confortable having less than 10% space left on a device |
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12:10.47 | otyugh | is there some sort of way to detect unused package or such ? Or heavy packages ? |
12:10.55 | micalm | otyugh: check sudo du -sh /* |
12:11.11 | horrovac | otyugh: You're right not to be comfortable with that. If the clean doesn't do much you'll have to go through it and find what's using the space. |
12:11.14 | jelly | !sort by size |
12:11.14 | dpkg | it has been said that sort by size is aptitude search ~i -O installsize -F"%p %I", or see <sort by size sarge>, or see <dpigs> |
12:11.32 | fraff | otyugh: remove x-window :) |
12:11.47 | gry | Hi. I already have grub installed but the debian installer asks where to install grub and whether to install it on master boot record of the first hard drive. |
12:11.50 | horrovac | I'd remove KDE or Gnome. |
12:12.08 | otyugh | I don't use desktop already. x) |
12:12.27 | jelly | gry: you can only have one grub. Pick one distro's grub and stick with it. |
12:12.31 | gry | i want to say 'no thanks, it is already there' but i see no such option. |
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12:12.44 | crane | otyugh: what kind of installation did you choose? a fresh installation without any stuff comes along with nearly 800mb |
12:13.08 | jelly | gry: I _think_ you can unset all devices and let it d-i skip that step... |
12:13.18 | otyugh | crane: I came with something pre-installed I tried to clean out afterward |
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12:13.31 | gry | K |
12:13.32 | otyugh | I know it's not the best :/ |
12:13.50 | jelly | gry: however, then you have to boot the distro owning currently installed grub, run their update-grub, let it find the fresh Debian installation |
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12:14.05 | gry | Ya |
12:14.22 | otyugh | well. My 20 heavier package are between 10 and 30Mo... :s |
12:14.29 | jelly | gry: (and repeat that every time you install newer kernels on debian) |
12:14.39 | otyugh | I really don't know how I do reach 3.8Go there... |
12:14.50 | gry | Aw, Hebe. |
12:14.57 | crane | otyugh: take a look at 'df -h' |
12:15.16 | gry | Hehe.. Thanks |
12:15.38 | otyugh | rootfs 3.7G 3.6G 0 100% / - Ho my. |
12:16.07 | otyugh | (I was installing yuno host, I just saw It was takjing every space, but seem I eat everything oO) |
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12:16.27 | otyugh | *it |
12:18.56 | otyugh | Well the installation failed, obviously ^^' |
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12:20.01 | crane | otyugh: du --max-depth=1 -ch / | sort -nr then you can find the big stuff |
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12:21.44 | watmm | So. /proc/net/dev lists the number of packets on each interface. One of the fields is called "errs". net/core/dev.c defines stats gathering on incoming/outgoing packets, incoming error packets being "rx_errors". Does anyone know how to use tcpdump (or any other tool) to view only incoming packets (hopefully flagged?) as errors? Thanks. |
12:21.44 | Savemech | guys could someone explain how to use rsyslog? |
12:21.51 | horrovac | What I do when hunting for waste of disk space is du -s /* | sort -n |
12:21.55 | jelly | do not forget -x when running your du ... / |
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12:22.10 | jelly | horrovac: that's a horrible command |
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12:22.24 | otyugh | well. /root is taking up to 600Mo, /usr 2GO, /lib 400Go, /var 250Mo, and /run and /srv 100Mo. That's about it |
12:22.26 | jelly | no need to du /proc or /sys |
12:22.37 | otyugh | something anormal there ? |
12:22.47 | jelly | otyugh: /root 600MiB? |
12:22.48 | horrovac | If any of the directories appear bigger than they should, I repeat that for them. If it's, say, /usr, I do du -s /usr | sort -n |
12:23.07 | otyugh | ho jelly |
12:23.09 | jelly | otyugh: that's root's homedir. It shouldn't be using much. |
12:23.14 | otyugh | this is a 600Mo jackpot |
12:23.28 | horrovac | jelly: Well it doesn't hurt either. Never had problems with it. |
12:23.35 | otyugh | I just put some video in there is thouldn't be. Something like a "mv ~" as root... |
12:23.43 | jelly | horrovac: it can hurt a _lot_ |
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12:23.49 | horrovac | I won't prematurely optimise such simple stuff like that. |
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12:24.09 | jelly | I would stay AWAY from any /* construct in shell |
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12:24.23 | jelly | you never know what that * might expand to |
12:24.35 | frostschutz | stay away from -x as well |
12:24.45 | jelly | nah, -x is xcellent |
12:24.50 | frostschutz | it's stupid |
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12:25.03 | A_Df_ | hi |
12:25.17 | otyugh | do you have any other tip on my rootdir size directory ? |
12:25.19 | frostschutz | if you want a complete picture, do mount --bind / /mnt/root and then analyze /mnt/root without -x |
12:25.42 | A_Df_ | How can I see the notifications? I'm using Debian jessi and when the screen is blocked It says that I have several notifications. Thank you |
12:26.08 | ntz | /dev/mapper/ns-root 322M 147M 159M 49% / |
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12:26.18 | ntz | ^^ but I don't like it like that :D |
12:26.38 | jelly | frostschutz: that's nice as well |
12:26.54 | ntz | if you have separate /var, /usr, /home and /tmp you can be fine with 500MB in rootfs ;) |
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12:27.34 | K-202 | I tried to install Code::Blocks on Jessie by typing dpkg -i * in directory containing 16 .deb packages after downloading it from SourceForge |
12:27.37 | K-202 | but some packages had conflicts |
12:27.44 | frostschutz | if you have a separate everything, you can just as well put / and /usr into one. no point in keeping empty filesystem/partition around unless you actually want to put crap in root's homedir |
12:27.48 | K-202 | CodeBlocks is installed but doesn't start |
12:27.50 | K-202 | how to fix it? |
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12:28.06 | jelly | K-202: do you have the complete output of that installation attempt? |
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12:28.49 | tinoco | t |
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12:29.01 | brokencycle | hi! |
12:29.50 | brokencycle | does anyone have an idea why unbound might terminate immediately with SIGINT when started via systemd, but continues to run when being started with the -d switch? |
12:30.17 | rbnielsen | Is there currently an expiration issue with the debian repositories? I'm getting expired release files on the main danish debian mirror, when updating in aptitude. I've tried other mirrors, with same error. |
12:30.30 | rbnielsen | "Invalied since 1d 3h [..]" |
12:30.49 | rbnielsen | I'm on wheezy. |
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12:31.03 | brokencycle | "yesterday, it worked" (seriously, it worked) |
12:31.37 | brokencycle | could not yet find useful pointers using google - only source code |
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12:32.48 | DanteLA | I updated from wheezy to debian testing and from gcc 4.7 to 4.9. Is there way to re-install 4.7 alongside 4.9 ? It doesn't seem to want to co-exist, whereas 4.8 gets installed fine |
12:32.55 | brokencycle | oh, and btw, I started unbound with -d also via systemd |
12:33.06 | jelly | ,v gcc-4.7 |
12:33.07 | judd | Package: gcc-4.7 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.7.2-5; sid: 4.7.4-3 |
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12:33.59 | DanteLA | jelly: ? |
12:34.31 | jelly | DanteLA: how does the installation of gcc-4.7 fail? Show the output of "aptitude install gcc-4.7 gcc-4.9", "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy gcc-4.7 gcc-4.9" |
12:35.08 | otyugh | is there some standard thing to do when you are stuck with a "can't open display :0.0, aborting" or is that a rather general stuff to say "you changed some random config you shouldn't and now you are fucked" ? |
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12:35.24 | K-202 | jelly, I translated most strings in output http://paste.debian.net/165907/ |
12:35.25 | jelly | rbnielsen: wfm. Try deleting all the /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* files and do an "aptitude update" again |
12:35.34 | abrotman | otyugh: when doing what? Generally it means you're trying to run an application in X as the wrong user |
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12:36.31 | brokencycle | this is on jessie/amd64 |
12:36.32 | DanteLA | jelly: If I have only this: "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free" in /etc/apt/sources then "E: Package 'g++-4.7' has no installation candidate" |
12:36.36 | rbnielsen | jelly, deleting as in 'aptitude clean'? |
12:36.36 | jelly | K-202: run "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install", see if apt can figure out the missing dependencies |
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12:36.49 | rbnielsen | Or just raw rm -rf? |
12:37.05 | jelly | rbnielsen: no, deleting as in "rm" (not -r!) but aptitude clean might work as well |
12:37.07 | DanteLA | jelly: If I re-add wheezy stuff in /etc/apt/sources then it fails to install because gcc-base-4.7 conflicts with gcc-base-4.9 |
12:37.22 | rbnielsen | Ok |
12:37.26 | jelly | DanteLA: is it g++-4.7 or gcc-4.7, then? |
12:37.35 | DanteLA | jelly: g++ |
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12:38.34 | jelly | DanteLA: it's not present in testing at all. You'd have to do a testing+unstable mix if you really needed this. |
12:38.40 | K-202 | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/165909/ is it what it should be? |
12:38.48 | jelly | !why is g++-4.7 not in testing |
12:38.49 | dpkg | g++-4.7 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=g++-4.7 |
12:39.07 | DanteLA | jelly: Ok. I was actually going to try that next |
12:39.29 | jelly | DanteLA: read: /msg dpkg tum |
12:39.56 | rbnielsen | jelly, Just to satisfy my paranoia; 'rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*' |
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12:40.01 | rbnielsen | ? |
12:40.05 | jelly | DanteLA: note that testing will get a big influx of packages after jessie is released, that's supposed to be near the end of this month |
12:40.20 | jelly | rbnielsen: NO. rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* |
12:40.42 | jelly | that _* is important. |
12:40.52 | rbnielsen | See, this is why one should always be a wee bit paranoid. xD |
12:41.15 | jelly | rbnielsen: oh, and any existing stuff in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/, too |
12:41.19 | DanteLA | jelly: Great. I messed up this system when I went from wheezy to unstable/testing so I can start fresh from jessie. Thanks for help. |
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12:42.13 | jelly | DanteLA: alright, but it seems jessie won't have g++-4.7 |
12:42.21 | K-202 | jelly, what next? try to install Code::Blocks with --force option? |
12:43.12 | rbnielsen | jelly, 'rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*_*' ? |
12:43.22 | jelly | rbnielsen: yeah |
12:43.23 | DanteLA | jelly: I guess one can always install from the source or mix jessie with unstable.. |
12:43.29 | rbnielsen | Perfecto. |
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12:43.46 | jelly | DanteLA: it is not very sane to mix stable with unstable, though :-) |
12:44.24 | DanteLA | What can one do when gcc 4.8 and 4.9 does not unroll critical loops anymore |
12:44.58 | jelly | K-202: install the packages one by one and clear the package state with apt-get -f install, or set up a local repo and try installing via apt, maybe |
12:45.03 | rbnielsen | jelly, It persists. Still says release file is expired. |
12:45.46 | jelly | rbnielsen: dpkg --print-architecture ? |
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12:46.16 | rbnielsen | jelly, i386 |
12:46.34 | jelly | rbnielsen: dunno, try http.debian.net |
12:46.57 | jelly | dpkg, tell rbnielsen about wheezy sources.list |
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12:54.06 | dokma | still can't get thunar to mount usb stick... seems like polkit refuses the permission |
12:54.25 | dokma | is there any way to spy on thunar to see what kind of permission it asks of polkit |
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12:57.44 | rbnielsen | jelly, changed to http.debian.net as suggested in dpkg, and now it works. Odd. |
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12:58.08 | rbnielsen | Could it be that the snapshot in the mirrors were outdated? |
12:58.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is it possible to install a .deb along with its dependencies? |
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12:59.44 | abrotman | Eduard_Munteanu: gdebi seems to do that |
12:59.58 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: Yes, if you have a stand-alone .deb, gdebi can automatically install the dependencies with it. The "sloppy" way is to 'dpkg -i your.deb', the just run 'apt-get install -f' after that. |
13:00.11 | abrotman | prefers the "sloppy" way .. |
13:00.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hm, I see. Now I have to figure out a way to convince puppet to do that. |
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13:01.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | Might be easier to just host a repo normally. |
13:01.25 | Ooze | jelly, I think I fixed it?? |
13:01.31 | Ooze | It's been up 24hrs now |
13:01.33 | Ooze | Longest ever |
13:01.48 | Ooze | I ran a memtest and gave it some more room for airflow in the back |
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13:02.51 | jelly | Ooze: good, now I can tell you #debian is not the right place for hardware issues :-D |
13:03.17 | jelly | there's... umm... ##hardware I guess |
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13:03.40 | jelly | no channel like #very-old-proliants |
13:03.56 | rozie | LOL |
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13:08.28 | Ooze | ha yeah that'd be nice |
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13:31.04 | vroomfondel | I am trying to install Debian over a Ubuntu but the debootstrap fails |
13:31.16 | fireba11 | "over"? |
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13:31.42 | Ooze | foreigners... |
13:32.30 | vroomfondel | trying to overwrite my Ubuntu with a Debian installation |
13:32.41 | vroomfondel | without losing /home |
13:33.23 | fraff | vroomfondel: did you backup your /home/ somewhere before doing anything else ? |
13:34.03 | vroomfondel | fraff: no, I am just trying the procedure, it is not really about the contents of /home |
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13:34.37 | otyugh | 'no passwd entry for user admin' : I did "passwd admin" to set one, and the user does not seem to exist. What the hell ? >.> |
13:34.50 | jelly | vroomfondel: don't do debootstrap over existing paths. |
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13:35.26 | jelly | vroomfondel: the simplest thing to do is back up /home, reformat, install, restore |
13:35.41 | vroomfondel | the last message of the installer reads: Failure trying to run chroot /target dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.26_amd64.deb |
13:35.50 | fraff | otyugh: grep admin /etc/passwd ? |
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13:36.25 | greycat | And when you reinstall, make /home a separate partition so next time you don't have to destroy and restore it. |
13:37.03 | fraff | vroomfondel: are you trying to deboostrap from a live cd/usb ? |
13:37.09 | vroomfondel | so its not that easy to reuse a filesystem? |
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13:37.34 | vroomfondel | fraff: no, I put a netinstall on a USB. |
13:37.35 | otyugh | fraff: nothing |
13:37.51 | fraff | otyugh: so admin user does not exist |
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13:38.01 | otyugh | indeed :o |
13:38.29 | fraff | vroomfondel: you can still remove all directories exept /home/ and try again but still, backup your /home first |
13:38.58 | otyugh | is "admin" the french word in linux to "root" ? >.> |
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13:39.17 | fraff | otyugh: no, root is root, in any luguage |
13:39.19 | otyugh | or is that considered two stuff different |
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13:39.48 | Eduard_Munteanu | There's a special admin user different from root, yes. |
13:40.16 | jelly | vroomfondel: it's easy to reuse, but it's also easy to confuse dpkg and packages with preexisting state |
13:40.17 | otyugh | well I don't have it. Guess it's a simple user with NOPASSWD in sudoers or something ? |
13:40.38 | themill | otyugh: what are you really trying to achieve here? |
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13:40.59 | otyugh | a program seem to "need to connect using admin". And the user admin does not exists. |
13:41.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | otyugh, what program? |
13:41.40 | otyugh | yunohost.org |
13:42.07 | greycat | "YunoHost is a server operating system aiming to make self-hosting accessible to everyone." it says. |
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13:42.19 | otyugh | it is. |
13:42.33 | greycat | So you're trying to make an ssh connection from Debian to Yuno? |
13:42.39 | greycat | Or... what? |
13:42.45 | otyugh | It can be installed on debian |
13:42.58 | greycat | It says it's an operating system. So one of these statements is not correct. |
13:43.04 | otyugh | well |
13:43.08 | otyugh | there is a steamOS |
13:43.16 | otyugh | but you don't need it to use its capabilities |
13:43.31 | greycat | What are you trying to do, and where does Debian come into it? |
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13:44.18 | otyugh | I'm trying to uses yunohost that stats there is 'no passwd entry for user admin' ; it's a debian environment. |
13:44.32 | themill | (their documentation makes no mention of a user called "admin") |
13:44.35 | jelly | otyugh: Once you do "sudo ./install_yunohostv2" from https://yunohost.org/#/install_manually the resulting installation cannot be, in good faith, called Debian any more |
13:44.36 | otyugh | I guess the error is debian's too >.> |
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13:44.57 | otyugh | ho. |
13:45.04 | otyugh | Then it's not a debian anymore. My bad. |
13:45.08 | otyugh | >.> |
13:45.11 | otyugh | Orly. |
13:45.14 | jelly | otyugh: ask the yuno people about the installation problems |
13:45.21 | otyugh | doki dak |
13:46.23 | crane | otyugh: i guess your installation was not correct since you run out of space during the installation ;) |
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13:46.43 | jelly | they seem to have an xmpp server with a support channel |
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13:46.47 | otyugh | crane: just purged and reinstalled it. |
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13:47.08 | otyugh | but yeah, might be still a problem |
13:47.23 | otyugh | shit ho shit. Clean install always the solution. |
13:47.42 | themill | and "download this random hairball of an untrusted script and run it as root" would have to be the worst way to start |
13:47.59 | GPenguin | otyugh: what exactly do you need from that juno stuff? maybe you can do it with debian tools? |
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13:49.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | Looks like a CoreOS-minded distro. |
13:49.57 | otyugh | GPenguin: you are mostly right, if I don't consider the 900 tutos needed to setup a mailserver, althought it would be not properly installed and everyone that tries to help will state every minute it's not doable by a novice. So yay. |
13:50.37 | greycat | I didn't read any details, but it looked like a "toaster" to me. Something that tries to set up a web server for you. |
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13:51.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | https://yunohost.org/#/whatsyunohost |
13:52.02 | crane | I'm trying to build vagrant images with packer. Therefore I created a preseed file but I'm stuck at the beginning of the installation where i have to choose a language. This is the start of my preseed file. Anything messed up there? http://paste.debian.net/165921/ |
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13:52.38 | GPenguin | otyugh: what about this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hostinghelper/ |
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13:52.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | So yeah, more like a multipurpose server set up out of the box. |
13:53.23 | darxmurf | is there a way to merge 2 folders and auto rename files which have the same name but different content ? |
13:53.44 | introom | hi. man gcc gives nothing. |
13:53.49 | greycat | darxmurf: you could write a script... |
13:53.51 | introom | what's the place to consult gcc documentation? |
13:54.03 | themill | !gcc-doc |
13:54.03 | dpkg | The man pages for <gcc> are in non-free, as they are released under the <GFDL> with invariant sections, so they do not meet the <DFSG>. To install, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the gcc-doc package. If you are looking for man pages for printf, strchr etc then install the manpages-dev package. |
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13:54.28 | darxmurf | greycat: yep but I'm pretty sure there is something existing no ? |
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13:54.47 | darxmurf | kind of rsync --delete-source --skip-diff-files |
13:54.49 | darxmurf | :D |
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13:54.53 | greycat | It would be faster to write a script from scratch than to attempt to find an existing one. |
13:55.02 | introom | themill: cool |
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13:56.45 | vroomfondel | is there a point in having a label for a filesystem on a disk? |
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13:57.03 | GPenguin | easier recognition |
13:57.12 | Eduard_Munteanu | vroomfondel, you can mount by label |
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13:57.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | Instead of device path. |
13:57.35 | themill | Like UUIDs but more memorable... |
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13:58.28 | vroomfondel | ok thanks. The "name" is something different on top of that? |
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13:59.58 | darxmurf | greycat: or I can use even better rsync -rtpogv -clis -b --suffix=new |
14:00.05 | darxmurf | add a suffix to the files in question |
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14:01.07 | greycat | OK, if that works, then there's your script. Congrats. :) |
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14:03.49 | GirL-crazy | hi |
14:04.00 | darxmurf | that was quick :D |
14:04.16 | darxmurf | well yes, I need to keep both files but with a prefix for example |
14:04.19 | darxmurf | of suffix |
14:04.20 | darxmurf | or |
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14:11.31 | GPenguin | rsync only works its magic when the locations are the same, right? |
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14:12.08 | jhutchins | GPenguin: Not sure what you mean, you can copy files from anywhere to anywhere with it. |
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14:13.05 | GPenguin | but lets say change the directory structure it will copy the new structure into the old one? |
14:13.10 | darxmurf | yep |
14:13.14 | darxmurf | which is logical |
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14:13.30 | darxmurf | if you rename "folder1" to "folder2" for him it's a new folder |
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14:13.45 | darxmurf | but you can launch the rsync from the "folder" |
14:13.54 | GPenguin | is there something like a tool to merge for binary data? |
14:14.06 | darxmurf | ? |
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14:15.34 | GPenguin | lets say video_A is in dir3 and its already in the destination in dir2 |
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14:15.49 | GPenguin | so i dont have to transfer again :) |
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14:16.09 | greycat | You would have compare SHA-1 sums (or something) of each file in each place. |
14:16.23 | darxmurf | launch your rsync from dir3 |
14:16.31 | greycat | Unless the files have the same *name* already, then it's just cmp(1). |
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14:16.34 | jrtappers | Does anyone else get "Access Denied" with s3cmd |
14:16.44 | GPenguin | greycat: thanks! |
14:17.00 | darxmurf | rsync -avn /dir3/ /dir2/ |
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14:17.18 | darxmurf | you can ask rsync to compare checksum instead of time |
14:17.51 | GPenguin | yes, that was the clue i needed - the checksum |
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14:26.27 | jhutchins | . |
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14:26.48 | NoImNotNineVolt | ' |
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14:28.47 | darxmurf | , |
14:32.32 | darxmurf | folks, time to go ! see you tomorrow ! |
14:33.21 | GirL-crazy | Click http://www.bukolay.com I Come. |
14:33.56 | GirL-crazy | w.w.w.bukolay.c.o.m Click come |
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15:03.37 | crised_ | Trying to compile opencv according to this, http://docs.opencv.org/doc/tutorials/introduction/linux_install/linux_install.html |
15:04.12 | crised_ | everything is going fine, except gstreamer support, in the repo there are some old gstreamer versions... How can I find a package that contains a version of gstreamer 1.x_ |
15:04.17 | crised_ | ? |
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15:04.41 | jrtappers | crised_, Are you doing it for the package? Or do you need to compile it |
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15:05.56 | crised_ | jrtappers: I need to compile it |
15:06.06 | crised_ | need to compile opencv *with* gstreamer support |
15:06.41 | greycat | ,versions libgstreamer1.0-dev |
15:06.43 | judd | Package: libgstreamer1.0-dev on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.2.4-1~bpo70+1; sid: 1.4.4-2; jessie: 1.4.4-2; experimental: 1.5.0.1+git20150316-1 |
15:06.51 | somiaj | ,v gstreamer |
15:06.52 | judd | No package named 'gstreamer' was found in i386. |
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15:07.27 | crised_ | judd: I have wheezy |
15:07.28 | judd | No package named 'have' was found in wheezy/i386. |
15:07.29 | somiaj | crised_: as greycat asked judd to point out, appears you can get 1.2.4 in backports. If you need newer than that you'll have to backport (complie it) yourself. |
15:07.44 | crised_ | What is debian Sid? |
15:07.49 | tenshi998 | hey guys I need help with xfce4 in debian testing |
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15:08.09 | crised_ | somiaj: thanks |
15:08.09 | somiaj | crised_: sid is the code name for debian unstable. The first place most packages go (outside of the freeze) |
15:08.22 | crised_ | somiaj: great thanks |
15:08.25 | tenshi998 | I want to enable vsync in xfce4, but in the settings don't show the option to enable vsync |
15:08.37 | somiaj | crised_: do not mix sid packages on wheezy system, that is a good way to break your debian. |
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15:09.12 | crised_ | somiaj: ok, only backports |
15:09.12 | crised_ | cool |
15:09.47 | somiaj | crised_: correct, backports are built for wheezy and will run just fine (only issue with backports is they have lest testing so there may be issues with them but this is usually rare) And they have no security support. |
15:10.10 | crised_ | somiaj: ok cool |
15:10.34 | centrx | Hi I'm looking for a good way to break my Debian |
15:11.04 | greycat | So many ways. |
15:11.11 | somiaj | hands centrx a sledge hammer and points at his cpu |
15:11.15 | clearleapmatt | Anything in particular? |
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15:11.30 | greycat | Try gzipping random files! |
15:11.56 | tenshi998 | hey can anyone help me with this? |
15:12.02 | centrx | ok gzip /dev/null > /dev/urandom |
15:12.15 | tenshi998 | is any of you able to enable vsync in xfce4? |
15:12.37 | somiaj | tenshi998: could it be the graphic drivers you are using just don't support that feature, hence why it is greyd out? |
15:12.52 | tenshi998 | I have intel hd graphics 4600 |
15:13.04 | tenshi998 | I also can't enable it on my debian testing xfce4 |
15:13.08 | tenshi998 | but it works in xubuntu |
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15:18.23 | petn-randall | tenshi998: Is there are checkbox in Ubuntu, or what do you mean exactly? |
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15:19.23 | tenshi998 | there is a checkbox for vsync in xfce4 in xubuntu but not in debian testing |
15:19.34 | crised_ |  The following packages have unmet dependencies: gstreamer1.0-libav |
15:19.39 | crised_ | https://gist.github.com/crised/2ed50e935354159b87b6 |
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15:19.54 | crised_ | somiaj: nope, I cannot install it |
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15:21.31 | somiaj | crised_: do you have debian multimedia sources and installed stuff from there. |
15:21.47 | somiaj | crised_: also the package is called libgstreamer1.0-0 |
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15:22.06 | crised_ | somiaj: did not get the first question |
15:22.08 | somiaj | crised_: but you want the -dev package greycat linked. But if you are getting dependency issues this is usually due to third part sources or software. |
15:22.20 | somiaj | crised_: can I see the output of 'apt-cache policy' and 'apt-cache policy libgstreamer1.0-0' |
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15:23.36 | crised_ | somiaj: https://gist.github.com/crised/7944312e31388b53b254 |
15:24.18 | somiaj | ,v libavcodec54 |
15:24.19 | judd | Package: libavcodec54 on i386 -- wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1 |
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15:24.27 | somiaj | ,v libavcodec54 |
15:24.28 | judd | Package: libavcodec54 on i386 -- wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1 |
15:24.43 | crised_ | I'm on amd 64 |
15:24.47 | crised_ | somiaj: is that info for me? |
15:25.14 | simonpatapon | damn DMO's |
15:25.21 | ctmjr | tenshi998: are you trying to get rid of screen tearing? if so look into compton am not sure but i think ubuntu uses compiz |
15:25.22 | somiaj | crised_: so anyways, for some reason you have wheezy-multimedia packages installed that are causing you problems. You also have a ppa in your sources.list which can also cause problems |
15:25.25 | simonpatapon | had an headache trying to gte rid of |
15:25.31 | somiaj | !why not dmo |
15:25.37 | somiaj | !why not dmm |
15:25.37 | dpkg | The deb-multimedia.org repository was once the only way of getting good multimedia support. By the release of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" this was mostly not true and for Debian 7 "Wheezy" this situation is even better. Libraries from dmm are known to cause incompatibilities with packages from Debian; packages may not meet the <DFSG> so are not allowed in Debian. Use dmm as a last resort; ask me about <dmm pinning> and <dmm remove>. |
15:26.00 | somiaj | their epochs really mess with debian packags because apt reads the versions wrong. |
15:26.07 | ctmjr | ,v compton |
15:26.08 | judd | Package: compton on i386 -- sid: 0.1~beta2-1; jessie: 0.1~beta2-1 |
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15:26.46 | tenshi998 | ctmjr, yeah I have screen tearing |
15:26.54 | tenshi998 | but compton didn't help either, I still have screen tearing |
15:27.23 | tenshi998 | okay, I'm also trying to make xfce4 execute a ARandR bash script on startup to set up multiple monitors |
15:27.35 | tenshi998 | I've put the command in session and startup but it didn't help |
15:27.44 | crised_ | somiaj: :'( |
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15:29.07 | Lope | how can I delete the old /var/cache/apt/archives files but keep the current ones? |
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15:29.46 | greycat | Lope: apt-get autoclean |
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15:32.14 | tenshi998 | can anyone help me with this? |
15:32.43 | tenshi998 | I try to have xfce4 execute a bash script upon startup but it doesn't work |
15:32.47 | tenshi998 | same goes for conky |
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15:34.32 | Lope | greycat: thanks, perfect! |
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15:40.20 | dokma | is there any way to trace what requests polkit gets from thunar? |
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16:08.23 | Tachyon` | Hi, I'm running Raspbian on the Pi, I have a keyboard with no alt key, only an altgr key so can only switch terminal with chvt... I'm told I can edit /etc/default/keyboard to (for example) set the windows key to work as an alt key but can find no details on how to do so exactly, how might I go about this? |
16:08.47 | greycat | !raspbian |
16:08.47 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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16:10.17 | Tachyon` | that question is not raspbian specific... |
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16:11.23 | mtn_ | Tachyon`: then it should be easy for you to find the answer :P |
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16:11.49 | Void2a_ | Hi, where is the docker.io package in jessie ? |
16:12.05 | NoImNotNineVolt | you're putting the cart before the horse. |
16:12.14 | NoImNotNineVolt | you should be asking if jessie supports docker at all. |
16:12.30 | Void2a_ | the package was in jessie repo something like a month ago for sure |
16:12.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | https://docs.docker.com/installation/debian/ |
16:12.50 | greycat | wonders what the hell docker is, and why people keep asking about it when even dpkg doesn't know what it is |
16:13.05 | dutchfish | ,version docker |
16:13.06 | judd | Package: docker on i386 -- wheezy: 1.4-5; squeeze: 1.4-5; sid: 1.5-1; jessie: 1.5-1 |
16:13.07 | NoImNotNineVolt | docker is a lightweight pseudo-virtualization system. |
16:13.19 | NoImNotNineVolt | based around lxc containers. |
16:13.37 | NoImNotNineVolt | wheezy's kernel was too old to support it. |
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16:13.54 | Void2a_ | judd: where do you see this ? |
16:14.09 | NoImNotNineVolt | i remember a coworker mentioning in passing that jessie supported it briefly, but once it went to testing, support was compromised. |
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16:14.25 | greycat | "System tray for KDE3/GNOME2 docklet applications " |
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16:14.35 | greycat | THAT explains much of my confusion. |
16:14.39 | Void2a_ | ah yes |
16:14.44 | Void2a_ | the package name was docker.io |
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16:14.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | https://packages.debian.org/source/testing/docker.io |
16:14.56 | Miesco | Okay guys, I need a digital logic simulator, now! What do I do? |
16:15.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | Miesco: altera quartus was the standard when i was getting me EE |
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16:16.33 | dutchfish | Miesco, https://packages.debian.org/sid/glogic (also testing) |
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16:17.18 | NoImNotNineVolt | https://packages.qa.debian.org/d/docker.io.html |
16:17.58 | NoImNotNineVolt | https://tracker.debian.org/news/675987 |
16:18.16 | Void2a_ | NoImNotNineVolt: amazing! thanks a lot |
16:18.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | no docker. sucks, right? :P |
16:18.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | maybe by 2016. |
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16:37.01 | NoImNotNineVolt | in that we humans don't care if 'nature' (or its constituent sentient beings) care. |
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16:37.13 | NoImNotNineVolt | wrong channel, sorry |
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16:39.34 | awsm | Hello peoples, anyone have trouble where extra monitors will only mirror sceen and are not detected when looking in system settings->display. Pretty sure im missing something.... |
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16:57.39 | GPenguin | what can i do about "mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'" when i created that filesystem on win7 and need it on debian? |
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17:00.00 | Arrowmaster | GPenguin: i think exfat is handles through fuse |
17:00.46 | SuperBawlz | Anyone here messed with Cacti at all? |
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17:01.49 | somiaj | !exfat |
17:01.49 | dpkg | exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table, <MBR> partition ID 0x07) is a proprietary file system designed for flash drives. A <FUSE> driver providing exFAT read/write support is packaged for Debian as exfat-fuse. http://code.google.com/p/exfat/ . Not to be confused with FATX. |
17:02.30 | somiaj | GPenguin: there is support for it, but in the future fat32 is a bit better of a choice than exfat for compadability between win and linux. Though I am unsure if win7 lets you format fat32 anymore. |
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17:04.39 | GPenguin | somiaj: yeah. win7 only suggested ntfs and exfat |
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17:05.09 | GPenguin | i switched it around now and created fat32 on linux and test now if win7 accepts it |
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17:05.32 | somiaj | GPenguin: or just install the exfat-fuse package. |
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17:06.05 | somiaj | there is also a ntfs-3g (over fuse) as well for ntfs support. fat32 is just older and thus more common (don't need to run it over fuse or isntall extra packages) |
17:06.16 | greycat | can you then mount -t exfat /foo /bar like a normal file system, or is there ... fuse-y stuff to do first? |
17:06.37 | somiaj | I think once you have the extfat-fuse installed you can mount it directally |
17:06.43 | somiaj | similar to you can do -t ntfs-3g |
17:06.48 | somiaj | (which is over fuse) |
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17:07.18 | maple | hello everyone! I have a simple shall script that automates the installation of a package. I would like to improve it by making it more portable across various linux distributions: can I ask you for some tips? Warning: I'm really a big noob at this. http://pastebin.com/M55fZUFs |
17:07.45 | somiaj | maple: and how is this a debian support question? ##linux may be a better place. |
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17:08.11 | maple | somiaj: sorry, I'll move there |
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17:08.29 | greycat | I'm guessing he didn't really mean "package" |
17:08.56 | NoImNotNineVolt | looks like a package to me. |
17:09.22 | greycat | why would you need a shell script to simplify "apt-get install foobar", and how would it be "portable across distributions"? |
17:09.47 | NoImNotNineVolt | not all packages are in the debian repositories. |
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17:10.45 | greycat | Maybe I'm just burned out by the weekly instances of "I'm writing a shell script to download source code and compile it for my brand new four-times-derived linux distro" in #bash. |
17:10.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | heh |
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17:15.14 | GPenguin | greycat: have you by any chance had a look at the debirf tool? |
17:15.21 | greycat | no |
17:15.59 | GPenguin | cause when i look at the bug reports i get the impression they could use somebody who is very competent with scripting |
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17:16.51 | GPenguin | i like the project because you can create custom debian livecds with it |
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18:04.07 | latsni | Is there a tool available to measure the distance on e.g. a maps screenshot? I can't find a useful result with a search engine .. |
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18:06.32 | nkuttler | maps screenshot? |
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18:09.18 | latsni | just a picture with a map and i want to measure the distance between point A and point B .. is there tool available to do that manually? |
18:09.55 | srg | latsni: gimp |
18:10.10 | srg | Does the Postfix package automatially use a chroot? |
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18:10.16 | srg | I'm having some DNS issues |
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18:12.13 | teraflop | latsni: how it can be possible being a screenshot, do you know the scale? |
18:12.15 | latsni | srg: thx, i tried gimp before but i missed the functionality, thanks for pointing me to it |
18:13.50 | srg | latsni: I'm pretty sure gimp has to have a measurement tool built in |
18:14.30 | srg | latsni: Yeah, it does have a measure tool. I just checked |
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19:14.38 | jhutchins | srg: I don't believe it does by default. |
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19:15.49 | jhutchins | srg: No, I'm wrong, it does: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Remove_Postfix_from_chroot |
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19:16.44 | srg | jhutchins: Ah, ok! Thanks. I was having a weird DNS resolution issue |
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19:17.50 | jelly | still, the default debian settings for postfix do dns resolution correctly regardless of most its processes being chrooted |
19:18.29 | srg | Yeah, it was working fine for a while, but suddenly started rejecting mail due to "unable to resolve your hostname" (referring to remote MTAs) |
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19:21.34 | jhutchins | srg: Can you resolve the names? |
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19:46.07 | srg | jhutchins: Yeah, I can resolve them using `host on command line |
19:46.34 | srg | jhutchins: I restarted Postfix, but I still get the error. Hm. I'm running unbound with localhost in my resolv.conf. |
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20:04.45 | dimitry7 | hi guys. I installed debian testing on January on a server, now I want it to have the lastest packages, is it enought a apt-get dist-upgrade? |
20:05.00 | dimitry7 | any other thing to consider to have it fullly updated? thank you! |
20:05.06 | greycat | apt-get update first, then apt-get dist-upgrade should be enough |
20:05.17 | dimitry7 | greycat, okay man! Thank you!! |
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20:08.08 | creichen | Hi-- I've lately (new install, new machine, sid) been running into an issue wherein I sporadically lose most of my key-press events in X11. To have any register with xterm, I have to keep my keyboard key pressed and wait until key repeat has spammed enough events, then release once some events spill over. This is with xmonad as wm and gdm3. The problem arises sporadically; I haven't found a way to fix it short of rebooting. Any ideas for how to debug th |
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20:09.26 | buu | creichen: try xev? read from /dev/input/event yourself? |
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20:10.05 | jhutchins | creichen: Sounds like sid to me. |
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20:11.15 | creichen | buu: xev makes sense for a start, thanks! /dev/input/event is used system-wide, too, IIRC? The console works fine (once I manage to switch). |
20:11.46 | creichen | Still not sure how to track which application gets the key event, though... but that'd probably require instrumenting the WM. :-/ |
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20:12.26 | creichen | Any other WMs that have such a feature already? |
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20:47.52 | der_Gute | hi! any bashprofessionals here? i have a bashscript with a tail -n $var file >file 2. when i run this manually in shell it runs perfectly. when i run it in a script with /bin/bash the file is empty :( any ideas? |
20:48.07 | greycat | how are you setting var? |
20:48.18 | greycat | also, "file 2" needs to be quoted it if has spaces in it |
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20:49.24 | dondelelcaro | also, is this #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash? |
20:49.48 | greycat | (so far no bashisms have been revealed, but it wouldn't hurt to know) |
20:50.08 | der_Gute | second |
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20:50.51 | der_Gute | tailtable:604 is an echo output before the command |
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20:51.06 | der_Gute | the file hasnt any spaces |
20:51.32 | greycat | so, how are you setting var? |
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20:51.57 | der_Gute | tailtable=$[htmllineend - tablelinestart] |
20:52.19 | der_Gute | both are values and arent strings. an echo shows this |
20:52.25 | greycat | that isn't var. that's a different variable. and you're using VERY ancient, obsolete math syntax. Use $((...)) instead. |
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20:53.16 | der_Gute | sorry :) var= tailtable |
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20:53.46 | der_Gute | in my example. so it should be : tail -n $tailtable file >file 2 |
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20:55.42 | der_Gute | i have no idea why it works when running it manually and it doesnt when running in a script |
20:56.14 | greycat | well, we can't diagnose it when we don't even get to see the actual line. Make sure it's reading the correct file, writing to the correct file, and is passing the correct arguments to tail. |
20:57.57 | der_Gute | okay i tried it without a variable and a static value instead |
20:58.21 | der_Gute | tail -n 604 /tmp/table > /tmp/table_tmp2 |
20:58.26 | der_Gute | this doesnt work in my script |
20:58.43 | der_Gute | tmp table is a html file with over 1000 lines |
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20:59.07 | greycat | how does it fail? |
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20:59.27 | der_Gute | table_tmp2 is simply empty |
20:59.51 | greycat | file system full? |
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21:00.14 | der_Gute | no and when running this command manually the output is correct |
21:00.49 | greycat | You are *absolutely sure* that the *actual* command in the script, which is failing, is tail -n 604 /tmp/table > /tmp/table_tmp2 ? |
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21:02.58 | der_Gute | absolutely! i have copied it directly |
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21:03.06 | greycat | ls -ld /tmp/table /tmp/table_2 |
21:03.13 | greycat | gah, sorry |
21:03.17 | greycat | ls -ld /tmp/table /tmp/table_tmp2 |
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21:04.50 | der_Gute | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33947 Apr 9 23:12 /tmp/table -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13277 Apr 9 23:12 /tmp/table_tmp2 |
21:05.00 | greycat | that is not an empty file. it's got 13277 bytes. |
21:05.10 | der_Gute | ah sorry its from manual run |
21:05.18 | greycat | run the script, then the ls -ld again |
21:05.25 | der_Gute | okay :) moment |
21:06.28 | der_Gute | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33947 Apr 9 23:14 /tmp/table -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 9 23:14 /tmp/table_tmp2 |
21:07.01 | greycat | Obviously /tmp/table is being changed here... are you sure /tmp/table is fully written BEFORE you run the tail command? |
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21:08.14 | der_Gute | definitely! the file is a result from a wget |
21:08.30 | der_Gute | second...idea! |
21:08.31 | greycat | the wget isn't running in the background, or anything like that? |
21:08.36 | der_Gute | no |
21:09.32 | der_Gute | i added a sleep 10 after the wget. no change |
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21:11.39 | greycat | *shrug* stick that ls -ld into the script right after the wget, then run the whole script with: bash -x yourscript >~/log 2>&1 |
21:11.49 | greycat | that may be overkill, but... |
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21:15.43 | der_Gute | that worked! |
21:16.08 | greycat | that... should not have changed the behavior. Just should have documented what's happening. Unless you were not running the script in bash originally. |
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21:16.58 | greycat | (But you were using obsolete bash-only arithmetic syntax, so I would have expected errors if you were running it in any other shell.) |
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21:18.33 | der_Gute | hm moment i try to get the error back :D |
21:18.56 | karlpinc | (Sounds like a job for #bash. ;-) |
21:19.26 | der_Gute | its a terrible job for anyone :D |
21:19.58 | GPenguin | wget has a delay option. no need for sleep :) |
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21:20.16 | greycat | if he's not running anything in the background, he shouldn't need a delay of any kind |
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21:21.04 | greycat | Is there any chance you were somehow running this script under /bin/sh instead of bash? |
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21:21.54 | der_Gute | unbelievable |
21:22.03 | GPenguin | that would link to dash, right? |
21:22.04 | der_Gute | thats the fact: |
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21:22.14 | greycat | GPenguin: usually, yes... it's configurable |
21:22.18 | der_Gute | i used synonyms for the file to make it simpler for you |
21:22.28 | der_Gute | when i use the synonyms in the script all works |
21:22.48 | der_Gute | the real path is: tail -n 604 /tmp/clicktt/clicktttmp > /tmp/clicktt/clicktttmp_table_tmp2 |
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21:23.04 | der_Gute | when i output it to clicktttmp_table_tmp2 it wont work |
21:23.14 | der_Gute | when i output it to clicktttmp_table_t it works! |
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21:24.43 | der_Gute | is it possible that the filename or path is too long ? |
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21:24.58 | greycat | If this is on Debian, no, you're nowhere near any kind of length limits. |
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21:25.18 | greycat | On some *super* old commercial Linux systems, you are already past the 14-character filename length limit. |
21:25.32 | der_Gute | its a wheezy :D |
21:25.38 | greycat | sorry, commercial Unix, not commercial Linux |
21:25.48 | der_Gute | maybe my system adapts to my super old syntax :) |
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21:26.30 | maazu | hi all |
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21:29.52 | der_Gute | the problem is that i really think my script worked properly until i added some script |
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21:30.02 | porton | `apt-cache search '' | grep -i unity` I can't find "Unity" package. I am not a fan of Unity but wonder why it is missing in Debian |
21:30.15 | der_Gute | now i think all files that i create for temp are empty unless i change their filenames O.o |
21:30.23 | ariscop | no connmanctl in the wheezy connman package? |
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21:31.58 | karlpinc | porton, ariscop: Use apt-file or search via packages.debian.org. |
21:32.27 | karlpinc | porton: Maybe it's not in wheezy, but is in jessie? Or maybe it's just not there. Dunno. |
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21:33.34 | ariscop | yeah, looks like connmanctl isn't built |
21:33.35 | ariscop | wonder why |
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21:37.09 | marceloamorim | hello, anyone knows how should I install the mysql connector odbc to use this for asterisk? this new 7.8 I couldn't find the apt-get mysql-connector-odbc |
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21:37.59 | marceloamorim | the right config is under the /etc/odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini |
21:38.00 | maazu | marceloamorim: did you know there 'magic-tab' completion from bash # for apt-get ? |
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21:38.05 | marceloamorim | both files are empty |
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21:38.42 | maazu | marceloamorim: so, apt-get mysql- *magic-tab* *magic-tab* will reveal all mysql related packages |
21:38.46 | centrx | marceloamorim, Looks like it's called libmyodbc |
21:39.10 | marceloamorim | maazu: I didn't find any mysql-connector-odbc, there is another name for this? |
21:39.55 | maazu | marceloamorim: dont ask me, ask *magic-tab* *magic-tab* |
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21:40.08 | marceloamorim | centrx: I installed this package, but didn't rewrite the odbcinist.ini and odbc.ini |
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21:41.23 | centrx | marceloamorim, maybe you need to install unixodbc as well? |
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21:42.03 | marceloamorim | I have both files, but they are empty =( and I'm not sure if I write myself both files and point the right modules libodbcmyS.so and libmyodbc5.so |
21:42.24 | marceloamorim | I dont know if gonna work |
21:42.52 | marceloamorim | I install unixodbc alreadyu and unixodbc-dev |
21:43.07 | marceloamorim | installed* |
21:43.11 | marceloamorim | sorry about my english |
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21:45.05 | maazu | gotta go |
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21:59.08 | blonkel | hey i got some stuff in /etc/rc.local but it seems the enviroment is different then if i run it from openssh shell. |
21:59.41 | blonkel | for example date from etc/rc.local says : "Thu Apr 9 23:35:27 CEST 2015" and if i run it from shell it says "Do 9. Apr 23:32:59 CEST 2015" |
22:00.03 | blonkel | how can i fix this behavour? |
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22:02.38 | karlpinc | blonkel: It sounds like a localization issue. Are you logging in with the same username both locally and remotely? If not then it could be in your pam.d config for ssh, maybe. |
22:02.46 | karlpinc | s/not/so/ |
22:03.02 | blonkel | i log in with the same user yes |
22:03.08 | blonkel | (root) |
22:03.59 | blonkel | i had in the past many problem like this for running stuff on boot, even with some java applications. I always used 'dirty' hacks so currently im searching for a good way to solve this issue |
22:04.10 | karlpinc | blonkel: Ah. Root can be tricky. (Since you really should not login as root remotely to an interactive shell.) Probably ssh is doing something safe. |
22:04.35 | Posterdati | hi |
22:04.52 | karlpinc | blonkel: You could look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or /etc/pam.d/ssh and see what's being done differently than from a console login. |
22:05.17 | blonkel | karlpinc well it seems on boot the /etc/rc.local has the wrong enviroment, and the openssh shell the right one |
22:05.27 | karlpinc | blonkel: Does it have the same problem if you log in as something other than root? |
22:05.32 | Posterdati | please I've got problem with usb disks on wheezy, as normal user system asks for user password to unmount the device... |
22:05.50 | blonkel | well others use have the same as the openssh shell |
22:06.03 | blonkel | only /etc/rc.local is different |
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22:06.54 | karlpinc | blonkel: I don't understand. rc.local is run at boot, which has nothing to do with loggin in, either from the console or remotely. |
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22:07.40 | blonkel | yeah then the root env is diff from the normal shell enviroment |
22:07.48 | blonkel | boot* |
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22:08.14 | g00se | Can some kind soul remind me how to move cups out of the Pending state at the command line? |
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22:13.18 | schultza | what is the best gui based config editor for openldap/slapd ? i'm a beginner, and want to become an openldap expert as fast as possible. |
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22:16.53 | valdyn | schultza: there's not a free one |
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22:17.18 | schultza | what do you mean? phpldapadmin and ldap admin tool are not free? |
22:17.19 | gajovy | schultza: I'd suggest learning how to edit ldif if you really want to become an expert. I think I've once used JXplorer, butwouldn't know it's the best. |
22:17.35 | valdyn | schultza: they are just ldap browsers... |
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22:18.20 | schultza | phpldapadmin allows you to add/edit/remove entries, how is it just a browser? |
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22:19.17 | valdyn | schultza: I tought you were looking for a GUI with configuration support. I know what phpldapadmin is. I thought you were looking for something else. |
22:19.49 | schultza | I was just trying to get a sense of the gui's out there that can "configure" the ldap server/database. |
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22:23.43 | valdyn | schultza: i liked ldapvi |
22:24.02 | valdyn | schultza: but for the actual base config a plain text editor is probably better |
22:24.04 | schultza | ldapvi.. is that like vi editor working with config files?> |
22:24.22 | valdyn | schultza: no, it works with the actual ldap server |
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22:25.29 | schultza | Ok. I will practice ldif files and phpldapadmin. thanks for the info |
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22:31.31 | GPenguin | feels kind of weird to ask but shouldnt ~ be in the path? |
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22:47.40 | blonkel | karlpinc: heres what i mean: http://pastebin.com/EUdqgzf5 |
22:48.15 | blonkel | as you can see, /etc/rc.local behavours different (other locale ? other env ?) as normal shell |
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22:50.20 | blonkel | any suggestions are pretty welcome to solve this, couse this also leads to some broken init.d scripts which wont work on boot time.. |
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22:55.28 | blonkel | and heres the proof that locale is wrong on boot time: http://pastebin.com/4fncLGc5 |
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23:23.23 | icarito | what would be a recommended system tray update notifier? |
23:23.39 | icarito | in jessie? |
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23:30.44 | linearhappiness | hey there |
23:31.13 | linearhappiness | anyone present and eager to converse? |
23:31.31 | linearhappiness | about documentaries.. |
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23:33.47 | arielsanflo | hello |
23:34.07 | arielsanflo | i am from colombia |
23:34.16 | arielsanflo | help |
23:34.26 | linearhappiness | hey |
23:34.29 | arielsanflo | how erase error |
23:34.47 | linearhappiness | what error? |
23:34.52 | arielsanflo | bash: /root/.rvm/scripts/rvm: No existe el fichero o el directorio |
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23:37.12 | beest | sounds pretty self-evident to me |
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23:38.49 | arielsanflo | http://paste.debian.net/166014/ |
23:38.59 | arielsanflo | erro rvm install |
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23:48.07 | donofrio | anyone got time help me get 3d working on my system tonight - dmesg @ http://paste.debian.net/166016/ |
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23:54.57 | mtn_ | donofrio: have you tried the debian wiki yet? |
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