| 00:00.31 | kristijonas | veelium, I updated xorg.conf manually as the tutorial suggested. |
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| 00:00.51 | kristijonas | veelium, if fact, I created file,as it didn't exist. |
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| 00:01.22 | Tramp | naquad: not sure, but I think only aptitude makes the distinction between "manual" and "automatically". So if you mix different install-methods, this information may not be preserved |
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| 00:01.44 | naquad | Tramp, mostly i'm using apt-get :( |
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| 00:01.57 | kristijonas | veelium, Does nvidia-glx have to be installed or not? |
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| 00:02.05 | Nik05 | Tramp apt-get also safes those states |
| 00:02.28 | Nik05 | naquad what is the problem? |
| 00:02.50 | naquad | basically there's no proble, i want to save installed package list in backups |
| 00:02.53 | Nik05 | everything has manual state? |
| 00:02.57 | naquad | thought to save only explicitly saved |
| 00:02.58 | Ariel_Calzada | hi i want a debian with xfce 4.12 and also with nice appeareance is there a guide how to do it? |
| 00:03.27 | naquad | Nik05, neither me nor Tramp nor google can find the way how to get manual selection list. do you know one? |
| 00:03.34 | l1t | nevermind fixed it |
| 00:03.39 | l1t | i had to apt-get remove --perge |
| 00:03.45 | l1t | then reinstall |
| 00:03.56 | Nik05 | aptitude search ?not(~M) ? |
| 00:04.15 | veelium | kristijonas: Sry don't know, the last time I had to deal with that driver I wasn't on a debian based system |
| 00:04.28 | Nik05 | oh and installed ofcourse |
| 00:04.37 | veelium | guess I can't help you |
| 00:05.01 | naquad | aptitude search 'not(~M)' -> empty list |
| 00:05.08 | veelium | although the wiki would suggest no |
| 00:05.20 | Nik05 | naquad ?not |
| 00:05.24 | Nik05 | with the ? |
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| 00:05.48 | Nik05 | im not really sure how aptitude search works, check tthe documentation |
| 00:05.49 | naquad | aptitude search '?not(~M) and i' - like this? |
| 00:05.58 | Nik05 | ~i |
| 00:06.07 | naquad | empty list |
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| 00:07.42 | veelium | kristijonas: do the logs give any information? |
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| 00:08.05 | Nik05 | naquad let me search aptitude documentaion :P |
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| 00:08.25 | kristijonas | veelium, i figured out nvidia-glx has to be installed as it is driver. |
| 00:08.38 | naquad | i'm reading doc too, thats my version: aptitude search '?not(~M) ?and(~i)' - still lots of packages i didn't install |
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| 00:09.52 | Nik05 | naquad '~i !~M' should work i think |
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| 00:10.26 | naquad | still lots of stuff i didn't install: syslog, ssh, zlib1g, ... |
| 00:10.45 | veelium | kristijonas: ah ok, report if it works |
| 00:10.48 | Nik05 | naquad i tried it and it works |
| 00:11.05 | naquad | not here |
| 00:11.08 | naquad | ah |
| 00:11.09 | naquad | anyway |
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| 00:11.12 | Tramp | naquad: well, maybe anything installed during the initial Installation is manual? |
| 00:11.15 | naquad | i'll just dump the whole tree |
| 00:11.21 | Nik05 | and naquad some times some packages have manual state but that is a bug |
| 00:12.01 | Nik05 | naquad some things get installed manual by installer, tasksel etc |
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| 00:12.34 | alexfun | hey folks |
| 00:12.39 | Towzzer | hi |
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| 00:12.48 | Nik05 | what i do is go to aptitude and go to libs |
| 00:13.00 | alexfun | where can I fine a nice howto for debian to setup email server with sql and webmail? |
| 00:13.04 | Nik05 | and them press M so that all libs get automatic state |
| 00:13.28 | Nik05 | alexfun on the internet? :P |
| 00:13.40 | alexfun | yes Nik05 :D |
| 00:13.48 | alexfun | as library is closed now :D |
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| 00:14.41 | Nik05 | something like this? www.ispconfig.org/news/tutorial-the-perfect-server-debian-squeeze-debian-6-0-ispconfig-2/ |
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| 00:14.48 | alexfun | I dude done it for me before, however now when I change user pass in database it wont login that user! |
| 00:15.15 | alexfun | I have to say I like debian |
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| 00:15.17 | alexfun | its easy to use |
| 00:15.41 | Nik05 | what? |
| 00:15.59 | alexfun | yes |
| 00:16.01 | Nik05 | to whom are you talking? |
| 00:16.06 | alexfun | to people here |
| 00:16.16 | alexfun | who else |
| 00:16.16 | alexfun | :D |
| 00:16.20 | alexfun | its a chat right? |
| 00:16.29 | Nik05 | alexfun for mail check postfix |
| 00:17.02 | Nik05 | and it has documentation |
| 00:17.03 | alexfun | cool :) |
| 00:17.19 | alexfun | ty |
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| 00:17.33 | Nik05 | and maybe you also want to use dovecot sasl with it |
| 00:17.39 | alexfun | I got it |
| 00:17.45 | alexfun | dovecot sasl |
| 00:18.13 | veelium | good night |
| 00:18.22 | Nik05 | night |
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| 00:18.45 | Nik05 | wait what irc client inside emacs..? :P |
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| 00:20.22 | alexfun | I think I know what happen |
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| 00:22.13 | Nik05 | what happend alexfun? |
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| 00:24.53 | alexfun | Nik05 somehow mail database ability to communicate changes to postfix is changed |
| 00:25.00 | alexfun | after I installed suhoshin |
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| 00:25.48 | alexfun | seems like my ip range is banned in postfix |
| 00:25.51 | alexfun | nice : |
| 00:25.56 | alexfun | :) |
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| 00:32.49 | kristijonas | nah, it's not working :( |
| 00:34.21 | pfred1 | someone ought to write a program called prefix that configures postfix |
| 00:34.30 | alexfun | :) |
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| 00:39.22 | kristijonas | can someone help me with nv18 drivers? |
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| 00:40.23 | kristijonas | I used to work when I was messing around and didn't folllow instructions on official resources,but now it doesnt work when I again try to followt the instructions on Wiki Debian |
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| 00:41.46 | exutux | hi |
| 00:42.49 | exutux | how can you see when last fsck (tune2fs) ? |
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| 01:16.05 | sidewalk | when is Gimp 2.8 coming to debian? |
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| 01:16.36 | dondelelcaro | sidewalk: it's already in Debian |
| 01:16.42 | sidewalk | it is? |
| 01:16.47 | dondelelcaro | ,versions gimp |
| 01:16.49 | judd | Package: gimp on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.7-1; squeeze: 2.6.10-1+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 2.6.10-1+squeeze3; sid: 2.8.2-2; wheezy: 2.8.2-2 |
| 01:16.51 | [nazir] | 2.8.2-2 is in testing... |
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| 01:18.31 | sidewalk | im still using 6.0.6 |
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| 01:19.33 | sidewalk | oh well, tnx :) |
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| 01:19.53 | dondelelcaro | sidewalk: you can backport it if you need it |
| 01:20.00 | dondelelcaro | sidewalk: or you can wait for wheezy to be released |
| 01:20.41 | sidewalk | probably will wait :) |
| 01:20.47 | sidewalk | is it far away? |
| 01:21.00 | sidewalk | one of course never knows with debian, but are there any qualified guesses? |
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| 01:26.49 | alexfun | is there are some girls chats on freenode? |
| 01:26.50 | alexfun | like social room? |
| 01:27.13 | mmnicolas | anyone aware of any tool like memtest but for videoram ? |
| 01:27.32 | reavengrey | alexfun: it's a programmer/developer netwoek |
| 01:27.49 | reavengrey | how much swag do you think middle aged socially awkward aryans have? |
| 01:28.09 | reavengrey | Goto chatroulette for smex talk |
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| 01:30.45 | SovietCoins | I like it however most people there just jerk |
| 01:30.47 | SovietCoins | I mean they jerk :D |
| 01:31.12 | reavengrey | doesn't like Omegle or Chatroulette...same reason |
| 01:31.22 | SovietCoins | there used to be tons of cool dating irc nets |
| 01:31.31 | SovietCoins | then came ad bots, and likes :) |
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| 01:37.47 | mattfury | hi i cant get debian to boot from sauce |
| 01:38.01 | mattfury | vmware workstation 9 |
| 01:38.14 | mattfury | nothing happens whatso ever |
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| 02:01.48 | jgiorgi_ | can the application layer definition of bind to all addresses (0.0.0.0) be modified? I have a box with multiple IPs most of them are nat'ed to a local network, rather than reconfigure everything to bind to specific addresses could i specify that all addresses was really x.y.z.a and localhost |
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| 02:03.05 | fignew | jgiorgi: iptables |
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| 02:05.03 | jgiorgi_ | fignew: how with iptables? my iptables knowledge is limited to accepting, rejecting or rerouting packets |
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| 02:21.24 | rneese | hey |
| 02:21.35 | rneese | how do you hardset the domain name in deb |
| 02:21.49 | rneese | my box keeps loosing its domainname |
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| 02:22.03 | rneese | you type domainname it comes back (none) |
| 02:22.28 | rneese | after a reboot |
| 02:23.28 | peterrooney | ,file bin/domainname |
| 02:23.34 | judd | Search for bin/domainname in squeeze/i386: hostname: bin/domainname |
| 02:25.33 | rneese | ok but how do you hardset it |
| 02:25.43 | rneese | so it stops getting lost on reboot |
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| 02:35.02 | jgiorgi_ | postfix is rejecting mail from outside (relay access denied) can send mail from local user, also local to local doesnt seem to work |
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| 02:36.11 | lennox | any idea of why I am unable to change passwds for any accounts besides root? |
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| 02:37.51 | Armand | lennox, are you specificing the username you want to change password for ? |
| 02:37.58 | lennox | yes |
| 02:38.06 | Armand | Pardon my spelling.... *specifying. |
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| 02:39.02 | lennox | Changing password for lennox. |
| 02:39.04 | lennox | (current) UNIX password: |
| 02:39.04 | lennox | passwd: Authentication token manipulation error |
| 02:39.04 | lennox | passwd: password unchanged |
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| 02:39.09 | lennox | oops |
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| 02:40.52 | Armand | http://www.computerhope.com/unix/upasswor.htm |
| 02:41.42 | Armand | Use -s to show info, it might be locked... or you need to sudo ? |
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| 02:42.56 | lennox | hrm not locked |
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| 02:43.43 | Armand | http://askubuntu.com/questions/91188/authentication-token-manipulation-error |
| 02:44.23 | Armand | There's a few answers there you might want to look at. |
| 02:45.17 | lennox | k thanks |
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| 02:55.18 | alexfun | hey guys |
| 02:55.27 | alexfun | something weird happen |
| 02:55.42 | alexfun | when I open site url it ignores index.html |
| 02:55.49 | alexfun | kinda weird stuff |
| 02:55.58 | alexfun | it simply shows site dirs |
| 02:57.19 | alexfun | client denied by server configuration: /var/www/lib/ |
| 02:57.21 | alexfun | eee |
| 02:57.39 | pfred1 | alexfun web server action is dependant on configuration |
| 02:58.23 | alexfun | i know |
| 02:58.26 | alexfun | it worked fine before |
| 02:59.05 | alexfun | i justed run newaliases thats it |
| 02:59.05 | pfred1 | maybe the configuration has changed? |
| 02:59.17 | alexfun | well I havent changed it |
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| 02:59.56 | alexfun | its simple apache instal |
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| 03:02.10 | alexfun | maybe its becouse its owned by root |
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| 03:07.51 | alexfun | ok it was htaccess |
| 03:07.51 | alexfun | :D |
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| 03:10.15 | cobra-the-joker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:10.36 | alexfun | what u using it for |
| 03:10.49 | cobra-the-joker | alexfun, using what ? |
| 03:11.12 | alexfun | the vcard |
| 03:11.21 | cobra-the-joker | web browsing ... nothing fancy |
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| 03:12.05 | alexfun | well then |
| 03:12.12 | alexfun | should be fine |
| 03:12.19 | cobra-the-joker | lol |
| 03:12.23 | cobra-the-joker | that doesnt solve my issue |
| 03:12.27 | alexfun | what is it |
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| 03:12.35 | alexfun | u said its web browsing :D |
| 03:12.38 | cobra-the-joker | it's sluggish as hell ... the whole system |
| 03:12.50 | cobra-the-joker | not enough even for web browsing |
| 03:13.33 | alexfun | maybe use eset |
| 03:13.38 | alexfun | to check for trojans, etc |
| 03:14.02 | cobra-the-joker | :D |
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| 03:27.48 | alexfun | omegle message Video chat is monitored. Keep your clothes on or get banned*. lol |
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| 03:55.03 | JiKeidan | hello debian users =P I was directed here from the #httpd channel to request some direction on how to get apache httpd running on my debian box... |
| 03:55.50 | JiKeidan | I was, at first, unclear on the apache website observing the unix source packages... (thinking I had to get the APR and somehow compile the source package myself)... they at the #httpd channel lead me to believe that is unnecessary and that I could find out more on the topic here |
| 03:56.48 | Dan39 | apt-get install apache2 |
| 03:56.49 | Dan39 | done? |
| 03:57.03 | JiKeidan | having tried that... I come up with a log of dependancies... |
| 03:57.11 | Dan39 | o_O |
| 03:57.17 | JiKeidan | linux noob, man |
| 03:57.24 | Dan39 | it should automaticaly install dependencies |
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| 03:57.34 | JiKeidan | 1 would hope... but it doesn't |
| 03:57.47 | Dan39 | pastebin |
| 03:58.05 | JiKeidan | ok, gimme a moment |
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| 03:58.53 | JiKeidan | http://paste2.org/p/2882079 |
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| 03:59.35 | JiKeidan | i really really don't want to force install... as i'm unsure what that'll do to any other dependencies |
| 03:59.58 | Dan39 | hmm not sure... |
| 04:00.03 | Dan39 | have you run upgrade? |
| 04:00.06 | Dan39 | and dist-upgrade... |
| 04:00.36 | JiKeidan | owow... no, i was playing aroudn with some packages ealier the other day |
| 04:00.39 | JiKeidan | and i installed skype4pidgin |
| 04:00.52 | JiKeidan | which i don't need, uninstalled that and apache2 installs just fine X.X |
| 04:01.11 | Dan39 | lol |
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| 04:01.24 | JiKeidan | i guess what those messages were conveying is that a package ( skype4pidgin ) was dependant on some of the packages that apache2 would have written over? |
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| 04:02.32 | JiKeidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.41 | JiKeidan | thanks though Dan39 strong name btw ;) |
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| 04:03.01 | Dan39 | strong name? |
| 04:03.02 | Dan39 | o |
| 04:03.06 | Dan39 | your dan too... :D |
| 04:03.14 | JiKeidan | =P we're EVERYWHERE O.O MUAHAHAHAHAHAH! |
| 04:03.21 | JiKeidan | should start a #Dan channel xD |
| 04:03.26 | opr | hey all, im a bit of a linux noob when it comes to permissions, users and groups, but im trying to set up vsftpd so that I am allowed to upload into any directory, but all other users may only upload into their home - i have all users chrooted, and this is working, but when i try to upload then i get 530 permission denied error. any help on the group/permission setup i need for this would be much appreciated. |
| 04:03.29 | Dan39 | i use it for testing often |
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| 04:04.13 | grim4593 | odd |
| 04:07.39 | JiKeidan | lol there goes another one =P |
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| 04:08.58 | alexfun | :)))) |
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| 04:24.05 | JiKeidan | got it up and running xD ^.^ Glee! |
| 04:24.35 | JiKeidan | ... serious situation though, i'm used to configuring the httpd.conf file for my website directory... in this build, it's ... empty =) |
| 04:27.02 | Jewfro-Macabbi | JiKeidan, you can add per directory access rules to the default file under sites-enabled |
| 04:27.03 | b2coutts | hey #debian, I recently installed debian on my laptop, and noticed that the caret in TTYs is an underscore, instead of a full highlight character like I'm used to. Is there a way to change this? |
| 04:28.43 | JiKeidan | gotcha, ok thanks Jewfro-Macabbi |
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| 04:30.09 | JiKeidan | by default file, you're referring to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf? |
| 04:30.30 | Jewfro-Macabbi | no, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default |
| 04:30.41 | Jewfro-Macabbi | or default-ssl, as the case may be |
| 04:31.34 | JiKeidan | oh i see... =) gotcha thanks Jewfro-Macabbi |
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| 04:35.59 | caf | b2coutts: echo -e "\e[?16c" |
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| 04:57.28 | jnewt | which debian stable version do i need / want for installing into a virtual machine, and does it matter? |
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| 05:00.12 | Cyclohexane | jnewt: the latest stable version? |
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| 05:00.31 | jnewt | right, but what architecture? |
| 05:00.55 | jnewt | the one of the host? |
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| 05:01.33 | Cyclohexane | jnewt: i386 should do it unless you allocate more than 4gb memory |
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| 05:02.32 | jnewt | host is i7, i have plenty of memory to allocate 4GB or so if needed. i created the vm, and it suggested 384MB, with an 8GB HDD, but that could be changed. |
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| 05:13.49 | L4m3r | using amd64 arch and a Radeon HD 7850 (what was I thinking? -_- ) |
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| 05:28.09 | sim590 | I'm currently trying to mount an NTFS filesystem with debian net-inst live CD but I get the message "no such device" when doing "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt" |
| 05:28.44 | sim590 | any idea why? |
| 05:29.27 | sim590 | I thought "mount -t ntfs" could mount ntfs partitions.. |
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| 05:37.13 | Cyclohexane | sim590: does /dev/sda1 exist? |
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| 05:42.58 | sim590 | Cyclohexane: yes it does. ls /dev | grep sd shows "sda sda1 sdb sdb1 sdb2" |
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| 05:48.06 | Cyclohexane | sim590: what about fdisk -l? |
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| 05:55.59 | sim590 | Cyclohexane: fdisk /dev/sda .. I then do "p" and I get the partition table : /dev/sda1 .. .. ... ... HPFS/NTFS/exFAT |
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| 05:56.20 | sim590 | Cyclohexane: I just can't mount it |
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| 05:56.32 | sim590 | neither /dev/sdbX.. |
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| 05:56.49 | sim590 | I guess it's about the FS type |
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| 06:10.08 | jnewt | hrm, trying to mount a samba share from a freebsd server, and it does nothing, no error, nothing, have to ctrl+C to continue. # mount -t nfs nas:/jnewt ~/nasdrive |
| 06:10.29 | jnewt | i can ping it. |
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| 06:11.16 | jnewt | i can ssh to it. |
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| 06:22.43 | njvic | hi.. anyone know of a good guide to create a script that runs once only at boot? |
| 06:23.29 | njvic | it's the 'run only once' part that i need the guide for, not the script ;) |
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| 06:25.36 | njvic | actually would i just do it the same as any init script and just include removal from init at the end of script execution? |
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| 06:38.42 | sim590 | everyone'S having some trouble mounting NTFS partitions.. |
| 06:38.43 | sim590 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:11.37 | r15 | hi, i installed debian 6.0.6 and facing issue with wifi. |
| 07:11.43 | r15 | followed http://wiki.debian.org/wl#Squeeze |
| 07:12.19 | r15 | 0a:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) |
| 07:12.26 | jalalsfs | r15, It doesn't work? |
| 07:13.13 | r15 | jalalsfs: no, step 3 is failing (0a:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)) |
| 07:13.18 | r15 | sorry. |
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| 07:13.39 | r15 | jalalsfs: no, step 3 is failing (# m-a a-i broadcom-sta) |
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| 07:14.12 | jalalsfs | r15, Have you done step 1? |
| 07:14.46 | jalalsfs | r15, I mean added "non-free" to your source.list file. |
| 07:14.48 | jalalsfs | ? |
| 07:15.20 | r15 | jalalsfs: http://fpaste.org/eIwO/ |
| 07:15.51 | r15 | yes added non-free |
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| 07:16.29 | jalalsfs | r15, aptitude install firmware-brcm80211 |
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| 07:18.34 | jalalsfs | r15, Have you installed this package yet? |
| 07:18.35 | r15 | jalalsfs: installed |
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| 07:19.43 | jalalsfs | Okay, See if is it working now, |
| 07:20.49 | r15 | iwconfig is still same, no wireless interface. |
| 07:21.10 | r15 | tried step 4 and step 6 from wiki http://wiki.debian.org/wl#Squeeze |
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| 07:21.15 | jalalsfs | r15, Can you restart the computer. |
| 07:21.20 | r15 | yes |
| 07:21.28 | jalalsfs | r15, Okay, do it. |
| 07:21.35 | r15 | back in a while, rebooting. |
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| 07:27.44 | r15 | it worked. |
| 07:28.13 | jalalsfs | r15, Okay, nice. |
| 07:28.30 | r15 | jalalsfs: Thanks, |
| 07:29.23 | jalalsfs | r15, Welcome r15. |
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| 07:36.07 | MattLinux | Hello, Debian Crew |
| 07:38.14 | MattLinux | anyone here??? |
| 07:39.15 | well_laid_lawn | lots of people are, in various stages MattLinux |
| 07:40.01 | jalalsfs | MattLinux, What? |
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| 07:40.40 | MattLinux | yay someones awake |
| 07:40.48 | MattLinux | you use squeeze? |
| 07:40.53 | MattLinux | oe wheezy |
| 07:40.55 | MattLinux | or |
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| 07:46.30 | jalalsfs | MattLinux, Wheezy. |
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| 07:46.53 | MattLinux | dont like squeeze? |
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| 07:48.52 | ChrisH | MattLinux: its not a matter of "like" but selecting the matching version for your needs.. but what is your question? |
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| 07:49.07 | jalalsfs | MattLinux, I like to be updated, that's it. but squeeze is very very stable. |
| 07:49.29 | MattLinux | Hug's jalalsfs :) |
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| 08:07.26 | youlysses | Just curious, why is "mit-scheme-doc" packaged, but seemingly not "mit-scheme" itself? |
| 08:14.39 | L4m3r | build of fglrx-driver in module-assistant fails, but the buildlog doesn't say anything, just that the build is starting |
| 08:15.32 | L4m3r | am I missing something obvious? google has thousands of forum threads with every imaginable fglrx issue |
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| 08:17.36 | ChrisH | ,v mit-scheme |
| 08:17.37 | judd | Package: mit-scheme on i386 -- lenny: 7.7.90+20080130-1; squeeze: 9.0.1-1; sid: 9.1-1; wheezy: 9.1-1 |
| 08:17.54 | ChrisH | youlysses: it is there somehow |
| 08:18.56 | youlysses | ChrisH: When I do a package search for mit, scheme, mit-, etc, it only pulls up "docs" on both of fresh installs... :-I |
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| 08:19.47 | ChrisH | youlysses: aptitude search mit-scheme on my squeeze shows 3 packages |
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| 08:20.35 | ChrisH | youlysses: could it be an issue of non-free or contrib? |
| 08:20.47 | karont | hi |
| 08:20.56 | youlysses | ChrisH: Well, to be fair... I should probably be asking in devel (I'm on wheezy). |
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| 08:22.01 | youlysses | ChrisH: Well, I doubt it's in non-free. But it might be in contrib, actually. If so, that still seems odd the documentation is in the main repo. :-P |
| 08:22.28 | ChrisH | youlysses: check http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mit-scheme its only in i386 |
| 08:22.43 | jiu-jitsjiu-jits | -FREE |
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| 08:23.18 | youlysses | ChrisH: Ah! Thanks for the info. :-) |
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| 08:25.47 | jiu-jitsjiu-jits | HYOUGATem um caráter honesto e justo.Quando se dividem e lutam entre se junto com armadura. |
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| 08:50.59 | linduxed | i know that you can use chfn to edit the gecos records of a user, but is there a separate command which just displays the records? |
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| 08:52.50 | ChrisH | linduxed: finger USERNAME as mentioned in man chfn |
| 08:53.01 | linduxed | ChrisH: oh, thank you |
| 08:53.41 | ChrisH | linduxed: I prefer grep USERNAME /etc/passwd or ypmatch, gets difficult when LDAP comes in |
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| 08:59.36 | jelly-home | ChrisH: getent passwd username |
| 09:01.42 | ChrisH | jelly-home: I did not test if it shows all fields with nis/LDAP involved. getent is cool for scripting |
| 09:02.02 | ChrisH | checked, nis shows all. no LDAP at hand |
| 09:02.41 | jelly-home | it's a bug if it doesn't |
| 09:02.58 | jelly-home | (or a misconfiguration on your resolver side) |
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| 09:48.11 | vldcnst | Is there a script/utility of some sort that will generate a static /etc/network/interfaces config based on the current DHCP lease? |
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| 09:51.55 | harmaahylje | auto eth0 |
| 09:51.58 | harmaahylje | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 09:53.13 | vldcnst | mhm, make that to "iface eth0 inet static" with the proper values based on the current DHCP |
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| 09:54.04 | harmaahylje | how is it static |
| 09:56.45 | jelly-home | vldcnst: no, there is not, but it's not hard to copy the values |
| 09:57.04 | vldcnst | it isn't, I was just checking if somebody already wrote a script for it |
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| 11:15.09 | shoot | I have downloaded the kernel source .... I want to build it for amd64.... Any hint please that how i can do this? |
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| 11:15.59 | shoot | with make dep-pkg |
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| 11:16.38 | shoot | If i compile the kernel on 64bit debian then it will aumatically will be for 64bit ? |
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| 11:16.54 | shoot | Or i need to do some extra things? |
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| 11:21.44 | ChrisH | shoot: Last time I compiled a kernel is at least 5 years. |
| 11:22.09 | ChrisH | I assume its 64bit automagically. Why not use Debian kernels? |
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| 11:23.48 | shoot | I have downloaded 3.7.8 for my debian 64bit.... wondering how i can compile it using dep-pkg for current 64bit system |
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| 11:28.51 | shoot | ChrisH, You mean the Source or the pckage? |
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| 11:29.58 | ChrisH | shoot: package |
| 11:30.37 | shoot | Perhaps there is no 3.7.8 on wheezy yet |
| 11:30.59 | ChrisH | 3.7.8 sounds more like unstable or experimental |
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| 11:31.30 | shoot | In kernel.org i saw it is stable , that is i downloaded it ! |
| 11:32.11 | gamer1990 | 3.7.8 is latest Stable from kernel.org, I run 3.7.7 on Wheezy. |
| 11:32.54 | gamer1990 | make-kpkg would be the better way to compile a Kernel for Wheezy. |
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| 11:34.07 | shoot | gamer1990, You installed using apt or from source? |
| 11:34.22 | ChrisH | and what is the advantage of running kernels from kernel.org over using a kernel from debian's repos? I do not want to hear its newer. Thats sns |
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| 11:34.46 | gamer1990 | not apt, but using dpkg -i |
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| 11:35.14 | gamer1990 | ChrisH, less Bugs, more stable, and customized with grsec/pax |
| 11:35.33 | ChrisH | gamer1990: less Bugs? I doubt that :) |
| 11:35.43 | shoot | gamer1990, You downloaded or have build |
| 11:35.52 | gamer1990 | I build it myself |
| 11:35.59 | shoot | ah |
| 11:36.06 | gamer1990 | That's your opinion ChrisH ;) |
| 11:37.11 | gamer1990 | I run in some problems with the shipped kernel from Debian-Repos with mdadm, and so I moved to official Versions from kernel.org. |
| 11:37.17 | jampola | Hi. If i am using live-build under squeeze, am I tied to building live-images for the same dist or is it possible for me to use live-build in squeeze to build a testing/sid image? |
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| 11:37.45 | ChrisH | gamer1990: did you report a bug on this? |
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| 11:38.31 | gamer1990 | No ChrisH, because the problem was already known, but not really solved. |
| 11:39.47 | ChrisH | gamer1990: known to kernel devs or debian bts? |
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| 11:40.20 | gamer1990 | Both, afaik |
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| 11:42.27 | ChrisH | fine |
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| 11:51.28 | shoot | gamer1990, I don't need any other option to indicate it as 64bit kernel? I am recompiling using dep-kpkg |
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| 12:51.21 | jelly-home | shoot: what is "dep-kpkg"? |
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| 12:53.40 | shoot | sorry |
| 12:53.46 | shoot | make-kpkg |
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| 13:11.48 | topi` | my script that I put into /etc/rc2.d/ fails to load at reboot time. Any ideas why this is so? this is debian_version 6.0.4 |
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| 13:12.11 | topi` | I've put simple scripts into /etc/rc2.d/ since times immemorial, but today it fails to start for some unknown reason. |
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| 13:12.36 | topi` | maybe something was changed (i.e. additional checks of owner/group bits etc)? I can execute the script from root prompt just fine. |
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| 13:14.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | they are now expected to have LSB headers. not sure what happens if they have not |
| 13:14.59 | topi` | (it's NOT a symlink from /etc/init.d/ like the others are, maybe this is the culprit?) |
| 13:15.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, init scripts |
| 13:15.04 | dpkg | wish i knew, CutMeOwnThroat |
| 13:15.07 | topi` | a-ha! so I'll copy the headers. |
| 13:15.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, init script |
| 13:15.13 | dpkg | /etc/init.d/ is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to /etc/init.d/myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript defaults". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <rc.local> <runlevel>. See also <missing lsb tags>. |
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| 13:15.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | the README has some useful information |
| 13:15.33 | topi` | hmm.. |
| 13:15.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg missing lsb tags |
| 13:15.55 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, Debian uses a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires all init scripts having appropriate headers, so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from Sarge and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 13:16.00 | topi` | if I don't redirect messages from the command my script runs, where does the output go then? |
| 13:16.09 | ChrisH | topi`: Do you assume to have a specific PATH in the init script you have as root? |
| 13:16.22 | topi` | ok, so I definitely do need the LSB headers... |
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| 13:16.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, right. PATH can also differ... I was more angling at things that have changed... "recently" |
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| 13:17.45 | laddu_ | o/ I've got wifi issues. Ath9k driver keeps disconnected. My wifi card is AR982X. My dmesg shows wlan0 link disconnected. I've tried instlal wicd. I've tried the hwconf edit. I've tried installing compat-drivers. WHY is wifi such a difficult thing to setup is mind boggling...I've googled around for days. If I cannot receive I response, I feel I'll need to revert back to windows. I really need this to work. Please help me. |
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| 13:17.58 | ChrisH | this LSB Header stuff only aplies to systems migrated to a dependency-based boot sequence? Or am I wrong? |
| 13:18.03 | topi` | hmm, the skeleton seems to be geared towards executing stuff from /usr/sbin ... and I need to run a python script. any ideas? |
| 13:18.24 | topi` | maybe I can just remove the line with "start-stop-daemon" with my python command... |
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| 13:18.54 | ChrisH | topi`: place your commands using absolute path, most probably you do not need start-stop-daemon |
| 13:19.26 | topi` | I hope so. I'll try using sudo -u user python foo.py |
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| 13:19.44 | topi` | first I need to cd to the proper directory. (the python imports stuff from CWD) |
| 13:19.55 | laddu_ | anyone ;_;? |
| 13:19.56 | ChrisH | topi`: sudo -u user python foo.py <-- no absolute path seen there! |
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| 13:20.11 | topi` | ChrisH: indeed, I need to put it there aswell. |
| 13:20.21 | topi` | well, I'll just wrap everything in a shell script |
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| 13:20.29 | topi` | that I can run from anywhere. |
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| 13:21.37 | ChrisH | laddu_: Dont hurry. Are you using a DE like KDE or Gnome with Network Manager? |
| 13:22.35 | ChrisH | laddu_: have you checked http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k to exact identify your card? |
| 13:23.13 | laddu_ | ChrisH: thanks, I run Crunchbang which is basically debian + openbox. Its Network manager |
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| 13:23.50 | phogg | laddu_: there's nothing more like debian+openbox then... debian with openbox. |
| 13:23.58 | ChrisH | laddu_: for the record |
| 13:24.01 | ChrisH | !Crunchbang |
| 13:24.01 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 13:24.53 | ChrisH | laddu_: Lets give it a try as follows: paste to paste.debian.net: dmesg ; ifconfig -a ; iwconfig to start from |
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| 13:26.35 | shoot | i am stuck! After installing the Kernel i get "error kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)" Debian is running on VM |
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| 13:27.13 | ChrisH | shoot: your own kernel? |
| 13:27.31 | TheGrey | ChrisH: this is laddu on linux OS: my paste is paste.debian.net/234649/ |
| 13:27.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, which he seems to compile for fun |
| 13:27.33 | shoot | ChrisH, I compiled it |
| 13:27.57 | laddu_ | laddu_: this is a confirm: grey is me! |
| 13:28.22 | shoot | ChrisH, I compiled the kernel downloaded from kernel.org |
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| 13:29.44 | ChrisH | TheGrey: Where is your problem? wlan2 has an IP and is connected to your AP. eth0 is the LAN Port. |
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| 13:30.52 | ChrisH | shoot: Looks like you did something [tm] wrong while setting up the initrd. |
| 13:31.20 | shoot | ChrisH, I simply rebooted after installed the kernel |
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| 13:31.41 | shoot | I did not remove the old kernel yet |
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| 13:32.10 | invariant | Let's say I get a document in Letter format in my mailbox, and I open it with LibreOffice, then it says it is a read-only file. If I want to print it, it submits the job to the printer which informs me that there is no Letter paper in the tray. How can this problem be *solved*? |
| 13:32.17 | TheGrey | ChrisH: I know, but occasionally I get major disconnections and then no wifi, and then super slow wifi. When I do have the issue and run a dmesg I see wlan2 has "link disconnected" |
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| 13:32.39 | invariant | I only have A4 paper in case that wasn't clear from the context. |
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| 13:33.33 | ompaul | laddu_ / TheGrey: link disconnected - bad password / driver config but how xbang do that who knows ... btw you you should know the following, if crunchbang was debian with openbox then it would be called debian with openbox, further to that you blame us for you having to turn to windows, both of those statements are in fact false, just so you are aware of the inexactitude in what you are saying, install debian install openbox and then come back eh? |
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| 13:33.56 | ompaul | it is not the same - it has for a start a different name |
| 13:34.00 | ChrisH | invariant: 2 points... point 1 run chmod on the file before opening. Point 2 change the page format /page to A4 or get an older HP printer and klick at the display, use A4 instead :) |
| 13:34.23 | invariant | ChrisH, for a normal user this is too complex. |
| 13:34.27 | TheGrey | ompaul: fair enough. and thanks for clarifying |
| 13:34.32 | shoot | ChrisH, Any advices to fix it please? |
| 13:34.42 | invariant | ChrisH, (I had figured out already that I could work around it) |
| 13:35.14 | ChrisH | shoot: get a kernel from debian repos. As I mentioned sicne at least 5 years I do not see any need to compile kernel on my own. |
| 13:35.36 | invariant | ChrisH, I would like to say to libreoffice "transparantly translate all Letter to A4 jobs". |
| 13:35.44 | invariant | ChrisH, or on the cups level. |
| 13:35.51 | shoot | ChrisH, Can give me the download link please? |
| 13:35.58 | ChrisH | invariant: I assume this can be done on cups level |
| 13:36.01 | invariant | I believe A4 is larger than Letter, isn't it? |
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| 13:36.05 | ChrisH | shoot: man aptitiute |
| 13:36.06 | ompaul | invariant: it is |
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| 13:37.16 | ChrisH | invariant: it depends also on the printer, some reject to print a letter sitze onto A4 other offer it on the display. Your main issue is, that your mailer saves the file with read-only permissions |
| 13:37.22 | shoot | i see only linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 13:37.54 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell shoot about backports |
| 13:38.03 | invariant | ChrisH, I seem to have found something which fixes this problem. Now going to test it. |
| 13:38.26 | TheGrey | ChrisH: so what should I do if the same problem happens again. In my defence ompaul, just google wifi ath9k keeps disconnecting and a flood of users from ubuntu, arch, debian, every distro, have posts of this issue. I just know this is an issue and I need help! thanks |
| 13:38.29 | ompaul | invariant: the use of the incorrect size of paper on a page can have interesting ramifications on how the printer deals with it - printing on linux is a part of my bread and butter and people changing printers and document settings seem to be parts of theirs, be aware that if you get something you didn't write yourself you should check the paper settings before you print or you could have some interesting time spent scratching head, also make sure your |
| 13:38.31 | ompaul | mail client knows how to deal with the printer correctly almost as important as the wordprocessor you use |
| 13:39.12 | ompaul | TheGrey: run debian and we will point you at the http://wiki.debian.org/wireless because it does it right |
| 13:39.38 | invariant | ompaul, how is it part of your bread and butter? On what level do you interact (user support or writing drivers)? |
| 13:39.51 | TheGrey | ompaul: okay. thanks. |
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| 13:40.24 | ompaul | users support and correct use of ppd settings to achieve results with 25 printers of varying shapes and sizes all available over the wire |
| 13:40.24 | TheGrey | ompaul: so this is nothing to do with ath9k? |
| 13:40.32 | ChrisH | TheGrey: improve the Wifi strength at the place you use it or use a cable. Wifi is using RF and there not a reliable connection. I do nave 3 APs around for fun. |
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| 13:41.12 | ChrisH | s/nave/ not have |
| 13:42.36 | TheGrey | ChrisH: thanks, I've found some stuff saying that backward compatibilty of a wifi card with b,n,g channels for a router that only does b doesn't work nice. Should I disable n and g channel on my wifi card? Could this be the problem? if so can I do this in iwconfig? |
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| 13:42.47 | ompaul | TheGrey: you are getting very annoying asking me about a non debian distroy perhaps you should do what I hinted at and look at this http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
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| 13:43.07 | ompaul | TheGrey: now kindly go and install debian if you have further questions |
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| 13:45.37 | TheGrey | ompaul: Sir apologies if I have come across as pissy and mad. I am genuiely sorry if I've offended you. I am not trying to come across as a douche. If you are upset sorry. But there are issues can be solved that are not necessarily 100% distro as far as I understand. As far as I am aware, I've been asking ChrisH for help. |
| 13:46.04 | ompaul | !volunteers |
| 13:46.04 | dpkg | Volunteers are people who do things for you for free. All the helpers on #debian are volunteers. Please treat them with respect and don't expect them to follow your orders. Insulting them or the things that they have worked hard to create is not a good way of getting help. |
| 13:46.07 | invariant | ompaul, if I get a Microsoft Word document and LibreOffice imports it, does it just copy Letter from the Word specification or does it just default to it? |
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| 13:46.32 | invariant | ompaul, that is, did the person who sent the document made the mistake or is this because LibreOffice is not that great? |
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| 13:46.34 | ompaul | invariant: I've seen it do letter from the sp3ec |
| 13:46.49 | ompaul | invariant: and I've seen it do letter |
| 13:46.56 | ompaul | LO does what it's told |
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| 13:47.37 | TheGrey | ompaul: right, but how have I offended you? All I have done is ask a question and apologise immediately when you have accused me for being annoyed at you. |
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| 13:50.50 | ompaul | TheGrey: that requires an answer ... which would be so offtopic - suffice to say you told us if we (not your distro, mind you) didn't fix it - you'd be forced to use windows - do you have any idea how many times in the last 20 years I've seen that on irc? |
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| 13:54.21 | TheGrey | ompaul: I'm sorry for hurting your feeling ompaul. if I'd know the idea of reinstalling windows would upset than I can understand, because it implies that the distro cannot do the job. I'm sorry. |
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| 13:59.56 | TheGrey | ompaul: but just because it's not supported by debian, doesn't distro is not connected to debian. It doesn't mean it is not based on debian. And so hear I feel I should be able to ask too. And so far I have been humble and apologetic. ... So back on-topic, can the router with only b channela and card with b,g,n have backward compatibility issues? And is blacklisting ath5k a good idea? |
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| 14:02.44 | ompaul | !based on debian |
| 14:02.44 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 14:06.38 | TheGrey | ompaul: thanks! |
| 14:07.30 | TheGrey | !thanks |
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| 14:07.57 | dpkg | TheGrey: sure thing |
| 14:07.58 | ompaul | !ops TheGrey / laddu_ being a troll in the best traditions of saturday and sunday |
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| 14:11.08 | w0rm-_x | my sound cards number keep changing, cat /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf shows a different sound card number every day |
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| 14:11.36 | TheGrey | ompaul: I feel you cannot understand a compliment when you are given one. not all of us have 20years of debian experience |
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| 14:11.48 | TheGrey | *experience/time |
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| 14:12.27 | nyuszika7h | hi, is it possible to install Syslinux from the Debian 6.0.6 installer? |
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| 14:14.57 | dthrvr | nyuszika7h: why you need to install syslinux? to recover something? |
| 14:15.31 | ompaul | w0rm-_x: kind of curious, what are they that they change are you using usb kit |
| 14:15.32 | nyuszika7h | dthrvr: no, I just prefer Syslinux because it's simple and easy to use, and it doesn't need a separate partition for GPT on BIOS (my VM won't boot the installer with UEFI) |
| 14:15.57 | w0rm-_x | I meant cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 14:16.03 | shoot | ChrisH, where is the wheezy backports ? Or i use the 6.6? |
| 14:16.13 | w0rm-_x | ompaul, they are Bose usb sound system |
| 14:16.29 | nyuszika7h | why does everyone think Syslinux is for live CDs/USBs? it works just fine on an installed system, it's simple and lightweight. |
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| 14:17.02 | w0rm-_x | ompaul, when running the command cat /proc/asound/cards the number of the device keep changing everyday which forces me to re-configure the alsa.conf file |
| 14:17.08 | ompaul | w0rm-_x: ah then that might be something you could address with /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules and fixing it |
| 14:17.37 | ompaul | w0rm-_x: no kit like that to test with, so I can't offer you much more on that |
| 14:17.58 | dthrvr | nyuszika7h: well, I don't know if Debian's installer include syslinux... but you can use system rescue cd (sysresccd.org) in this case just for recovery and syslinux. |
| 14:17.59 | w0rm-_x | ompaul, I will look into it thanks :) |
| 14:18.24 | nyuszika7h | dthrvr: you don't get my point, it is not for recovery, I just want to use it to boot my Debian. |
| 14:19.29 | ompaul | nyuszika7h: your vm ... what kind of vm? there are many vm's and not all vm's are equal |
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| 14:20.06 | nyuszika7h | VirtualBox |
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| 14:20.42 | ompaul | invariant: just a thought about your question, it would not be clever to change a thing that is letter to default to A4 because that is what you have, layout may be impinged |
| 14:21.16 | ompaul | invariant: cos some people don't know how to write and use a hard carriage return at the end of a line. |
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| 14:21.26 | dthrvr | nyuszika7h: ok, not for recovery, but you can use to install it AND use syslinux in your debian. |
| 14:21.35 | nyuszika7h | ok |
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| 14:26.48 | invariant | ompaul, I am setting the media option to a4. Why doesn't the printer pick up that? |
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| 14:27.39 | invariant | ompaul, other than figuring out how the API of LibreOffice works or compiling LibreOffice from source, I don't see how this is ever going to work. |
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| 14:27.51 | invariant | ompaul, also, the LibreOffice API is terrible in my experience. |
| 14:28.16 | invariant | They export a billion symbols, but they hardly ever designed an actual API. |
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| 14:29.01 | invariant | I would be interested in adding an icon to libreoffice which would try a lot harder to get something out of the printer. |
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| 14:29.19 | invariant | Probably something which would override the default icon. |
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| 14:29.48 | invariant | Except, I saw no way to programmaticaly modify even something as simple as the format of the page. |
| 14:31.04 | ompaul | invariant: where |
| 14:31.17 | invariant | ompaul, where? |
| 14:31.24 | ompaul | invariant: cups should handle your printer definition |
| 14:32.05 | ompaul | invariant: how have you installed your printer? |
| 14:32.19 | invariant | ompaul, via a ppd file I got from the vendor. |
| 14:32.46 | ompaul | invariant: try the ones from openprinting.org also they have a good success rate for older printers |
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| 14:33.05 | invariant | ompaul, they only support the serie not the specific model. |
| 14:33.06 | ompaul | invariant: vendors file can need a printer config file also |
| 14:33.22 | invariant | ompaul, what is a printer config file? printcap? |
| 14:33.26 | ompaul | na |
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| 14:33.44 | invariant | ompaul, what is the purpose of printcap btw? Is that legacy? |
| 14:34.17 | ompaul | The configuration file for the printer daemon is normally /etc/printcap. |
| 14:34.22 | ompaul | from the first hit |
| 14:34.28 | ompaul | I was looking for a nice way to say it |
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| 14:34.39 | invariant | ompaul, yes, but printcap doesn't even exist and it still prints... |
| 14:35.03 | ompaul | invariant: cups is designed to make things easy - but that's not relevant - what printer have you got? |
| 14:35.10 | invariant | ompaul, so 'the' printer daemon is a rather not to informative way to say it. |
| 14:35.20 | invariant | ompaul, Dell 3115cn |
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| 14:35.29 | ompaul | blinks in horror |
| 14:35.38 | ompaul | ;-) |
| 14:35.47 | ompaul | rebadged something or other I imagine |
| 14:36.01 | invariant | ompaul, rebadged? |
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| 14:36.52 | invariant | ompaul, it came from Dell. |
| 14:37.11 | invariant | ompaul, I think it's Samsung technology. |
| 14:37.20 | ompaul | invariant: as I said ;-) rebadged |
| 14:37.49 | invariant | ompaul, I don't think you can even buy printers directly from Samsung. Can you? |
| 14:37.50 | ompaul | invariant: let me try and find what I had to do for a samsung which was not defined anywhere but I got working |
| 14:38.04 | ompaul | invariant: indirectly |
| 14:38.14 | ompaul | via retail but that's offtopic |
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| 14:38.55 | invariant | ompaul, just to get things straight: I can print anything, but all I want is to make sure that instead of the Letter job getting stuck I want it to print to A4. |
| 14:39.23 | invariant | ompaul, -o media=A4 -o sides=one-sided -o fitplot=true -o PageSize=A4 |
| 14:39.31 | invariant | ompaul, and I am already using these options. |
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| 14:39.44 | invariant | ompaul, media and PageSize are the same options, I think. |
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| 14:40.37 | ompaul | invariant: ppint a browser to http://localhost:631 and see if you can see anything more useful there - there may be a how to behave if you get wrong paper type option, you can set that on the printer perhaps (it's what I do with laserjets mostly) |
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| 14:43.02 | invariant | ompaul, Substitute Tray perhaps? |
| 14:43.15 | ompaul | invariant: that's one option |
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| 14:43.29 | ompaul | invariant: it depends on how the printer driver likes to look at it |
| 14:43.41 | invariant | ompaul, it contains such options as Adjust to size, nearest, etc. |
| 14:43.49 | invariant | ompaul, it looks like it would have an effect. |
| 14:44.00 | invariant | ompaul, if you know it's not the wrong option, I can try that. |
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| 14:44.39 | mvt007geek | hey guys i mounted usb drive but it ask me the type of filesystem. i added -t ext4 but it didn't work |
| 14:44.48 | mvt007geek | what should i do? |
| 14:44.51 | mvt007geek | ? |
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| 14:45.24 | ompaul | invariant: that's one that seems to make users happy, sounds useful enough to test. Never assume that you'll make people using printers happy, they always want more |
| 14:46.17 | invariant | ompaul, in this case I am one of the users, except while I am one of those persons who intends to create correct documents in the first place, the rest of the world isn't so great at that. |
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| 14:46.36 | ompaul | invariant: welcome to the real world, you can but test. |
| 14:46.48 | invariant | ompaul, the printer rejecting jobs is sometimes a good thing. |
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| 14:47.02 | ompaul | invariant: They get upset with that if I'm not in the building |
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| 14:47.35 | invariant | ompaul, I think it's a giant waste of time however that me and you have to care about such details |
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| 14:48.07 | invariant | We can have much more complex interactions on the web already. |
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| 14:48.09 | ompaul | invariant: one thing I learned about cups, using a spreadsheet with options set and unset for future use and comments of my own making for my own use is handy |
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| 14:49.18 | invariant | ompaul, would it be possible to create a giant program which records common 'do not print this for the environment'-messages which then modifies cups such that it doesn't print that? |
| 14:49.28 | invariant | ompaul, I think a cups filter would be able to do that. |
| 14:49.42 | invariant | I think lots of users hate it when an extra page is created only to print such useless messages. |
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| 14:50.37 | ompaul | invariant: which is great until you have a document which the last page is designed to be a cover - stay away from the second guessing users |
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| 14:51.58 | ompaul | (A) they can't tell you what they are doing and (B) they really can't explain to you what they expect in reasonable language - so I've learned to stand behind them and then let them point at printed pages so I can (mock their efforts ^W) explain to them what it is they did and what it is they wanted to do |
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| 14:52.50 | jelly-home | mvt007geek: see if "blkid" can figure out the fs type |
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| 14:54.17 | v1c3 | hallo, i need an advice for using wake on lan. my server dont wake up |
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| 14:55.20 | w0rm-_x | v1c3, throw some water on it |
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| 14:58.19 | v1c3 | i just did.. with wol -i 192.168.178.22 a4:ba:db:95:64:6d.. no reaction.. maybe i should burn the house.. |
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| 15:03.33 | invariant | ompaul, yeah, I suppose there is such a thing as optimizing things too much. The best solution would be for companies to never ever print such 'do not print for the environment'-messages. |
| 15:03.52 | invariant | ompaul, the good news is that it worked. I wish I had known that before. |
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| 15:06.20 | Pei | i have three servers, a 1GB ram, and 2x2GB rams.... 400GB, and 2x2TB bandwidth, and 2.7Ghz Quad Core Xeon, and 2x3.4Ghz Quad Core Xeons, 46GB HDD, and 2x60GB HDDs, 1000Mbit, and 2x100Mbits respectively... I need some neat stuff to use them for, and to run on them. :) Or give out shell accounts, or something :) |
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| 15:07.33 | SEVEN_ | Pei: share some bandwidth with the Tor project |
| 15:07.58 | Pei | SEVEN_: Tor is a bad thing :) |
| 15:08.08 | SEVEN_ | Pei: you are brainwashed :) |
| 15:08.16 | Pei | maybe |
| 15:08.30 | invariant | Pei, sorry, how is Tor a bad thing? |
| 15:08.31 | Pei | tell me why it's not bad... |
| 15:08.38 | Pei | i have an open mind |
| 15:08.50 | invariant | Pei, if you say it is bad, you don't have an open mind. |
| 15:09.03 | Pei | i've just never heard anything good about it |
| 15:09.27 | invariant | Pei, it defeats all kinds of limitations media companies try to impose on the Internet. |
| 15:09.31 | Pei | if you wanna enlighten me i'd be greatful |
| 15:09.34 | invariant | Pei, that's one advantage. |
| 15:09.37 | Pei | ooh |
| 15:09.41 | Pei | i'm all for that |
| 15:09.44 | invariant | Pei, another one is that it helps people in oppressed areas. |
| 15:09.54 | dthrvr | v1c3: have you enabled WoL in BIOS? You need to set the magic word too: burn tha house |
| 15:09.56 | Pei | i'm fo rthat too |
| 15:10.14 | invariant | Pei, and it also defeats marketing strategies. |
| 15:10.21 | ompaul | and the exit nodes are never run by intelligence agencies ... |
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| 15:10.27 | Pei | ooh, i'm definately for that |
| 15:10.28 | v1c3 | dthrvr: ox course i did, but i didnt set a magig word |
| 15:10.31 | dthrvr | Pei: I suggest: Debian AMD64 + DRBD + ZFS + PostgreSQL 9.2 -> Free Database for everyone on the internet :D |
| 15:10.34 | ompaul | it's wayyyyyy off topic |
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| 15:11.04 | invariant | Pei, so, install an exit node. |
| 15:11.19 | ompaul | tor is roughly a dozen parasecs offtopic |
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| 15:11.29 | v1c3 | i just figured out, that there is no way to waqke the pc up after shutting down it the ordinary way.. now im serarching for a easy method or a script to hibernate the system |
| 15:11.32 | Pei | [08:10] (ompaul): and the exit nodes are never run by intelligence agencies <-- is that sarcasm?' |
| 15:11.40 | invariant | Pei, yes, that's sarcasm. |
| 15:11.43 | ompaul | Pei: of course it is |
| 15:11.53 | invariant | If you really want to help run an exit node. |
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| 15:12.02 | ompaul | in fact I imagine they own a % of them |
| 15:12.02 | invariant | If you want to troll, go somewhere else. |
| 15:12.17 | v1c3 | dthrvr: set a magic word? shouldnt it be always the same, patented by amd and hp`? |
| 15:12.17 | SEVEN_ | most exit nodes are run by zionists :) but Tor better than nothing, anyway |
| 15:12.21 | ompaul | now tor in this context is offtopic for here |
| 15:12.30 | invariant | ompaul, it's however also a small security problem for them. |
| 15:12.43 | yuastnav | so, will it be possible to get 3d acceleration with an intel hd 4000 and sandy bridge under the 3.2 debian kernel? |
| 15:12.56 | yuastnav | or do I have to upgrade to >=3.5? |
| 15:12.59 | Pei | invariant: not trying to troll dude |
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| 15:13.17 | Pei | tell me how i can help and i will |
| 15:13.45 | Pei | i have a couple extra IP's on one box |
| 15:14.19 | invariant | Pei, just read the documentation on https://www.torproject.org/ |
| 15:14.39 | invariant | Pei, if you don't know what you are doing, you are going to have issues. There are chats available via the Tor network too. |
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| 15:14.47 | invariant | Pei, that is, IRC over Tor. |
| 15:15.13 | Pei | okay |
| 15:16.03 | invariant | Pei, in ##nottor people will tell you the address of the hidden service running the IRC chat for Tor. |
| 15:16.18 | invariant | Pei, that was my last statement on the topic. |
| 15:16.44 | Eediot | How do I get workspace wrap-around working in Squeeze? The options I find online are all for GNOME 3 or Ubuntu. i.e. https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/133/workspace-switcher-wraparound/ |
| 15:16.47 | SEVEN_ | also, there is a Debian live system completely set up for using Tor (including live chats, etc.) called tails |
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| 15:17.30 | SEVEN_ | can also be run in a VM like qemu |
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| 15:32.10 | benedikt | has anyone run steam on testing with sucess here? |
| 15:33.52 | JonJ | Playing Half-Life now actually |
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| 15:36.42 | Eediot | benedikt: http://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/18jmu1/i_finally_got_steam_running_on_debian_testing/ |
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| 15:37.34 | benedikt | Eediot: i saw that yesterday but I had my doubts. (I dont have Debian at the moment) |
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| 15:39.04 | martin3z | i use evilqwm starting from .xinitrc, wihout xdm, and i have after any command: bash: $'\302\215exit': command not found |
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| 15:39.25 | martin3z | this was for exit usage |
| 15:39.33 | martin3z | other commands as well |
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| 15:40.01 | martin3z | i have to run full path /usr/bin/... |
| 15:40.10 | martin3z | any ideas? |
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| 15:40.59 | madsara | Hey, anyone have a tip on how to obtain IP information only (not set DNS or default route) in debian using the interfaces? I know I can use dhcpcd, wondering if I just do something with "up" or what. |
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| 15:43.29 | gnarface | madsara: you mean /sbin/ifconfig -a? |
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| 15:46.00 | naslin | high |
| 15:46.20 | dvs | l'eau |
| 15:46.25 | naslin | salut |
| 15:46.47 | naslin | quelqu'un peut me renseigner |
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| 15:47.58 | naslin | Par sécurité je voudrais tracer : connexions, déconnexions, en ssh et console l'utilisateur root |
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| 15:48.16 | naslin | et être prévenue par mail |
| 15:48.29 | naslin | Est-ce possible ? |
| 15:48.45 | incruiser | hello fellas |
| 15:49.01 | ksuhku | !fr |
| 15:49.02 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 15:49.03 | dvs | naslin: You want to get an email whenever someone tries to login as root? |
| 15:49.16 | naslin | yes |
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| 15:49.41 | naslin | for conection and disconnection |
| 15:49.51 | dvs | hmmm... I'm not sure how to do that. |
| 15:49.57 | naslin | and have if it's possible history |
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| 15:50.33 | naslin | for login, it's possible |
| 15:50.39 | naslin | in the .bashrc |
| 15:50.54 | naslin | but for disconnection and have history ? |
| 15:51.31 | dvs | naslin: the /var/log/auth.log already tracks logins and connections. I'm not sure how i'd go about making that into an email. |
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| 15:51.54 | naslin | but for history |
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| 15:53.22 | naslin | root logs can be trace with an mail in a script. The path of this script can be put in the .bashrc |
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| 15:56.29 | Grizul | naslin: may I ask... why do you want to do this? |
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| 15:58.08 | naslin | we have many users who use root, and for security we want kwon when root is logged |
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| 15:59.03 | naslin | and kwon his activity |
| 15:59.13 | naslin | kwon the activity |
| 15:59.37 | naslin | heu, sorry know root's activities |
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| 16:00.34 | Grizul | naslin: as soon as you have an user that has root privileges, he/she has control over all your security, including whatever logging framework you throw in. |
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| 16:03.14 | naslin | yes, you right. But, how have somes logs. For example, all commands in real times to a syslog server |
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| 16:04.03 | naslin | bash history can be deleted |
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| 16:07.04 | e-anima | hi. is it possible to crawl/spider a whole website with wget? i am thinking of this to "warm up my cache with cron in the night" |
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| 16:11.45 | Shadow` | crawl spider, download the page? yes |
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| 16:15.37 | martin3z | strange, first usage of command in bash after start xterm gives me "command not found", then second usage of this command works |
| 16:15.49 | Grizul | e-anima: look at the "--mirror" option for wget. |
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| 16:16.16 | e-anima | thank you Grizul |
| 16:16.18 | Grizul | (but be aware that some websites ban spiders, for good reason) |
| 16:16.37 | nkuttler | martin3z: which command, and how do you use it? |
| 16:16.41 | e-anima | my own websites. |
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| 16:16.56 | e-anima | like i said i plan on warming the cache on low traffic hours |
| 16:16.58 | martin3z | i was using exit |
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| 16:18.11 | nkuttler | martin3z: try type exit and/or set -x |
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| 16:19.23 | martin3z | nkuttler: now it works |
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| 16:19.38 | martin3z | nkuttler: both, exit and exit -x |
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| 16:20.45 | itry | Hello! In Gnome, is it possible to show 2 desktops on one monitor? You know, I have these 4 virtual desktops and switch between them. I would love to try have 2 of them on the Monitor simultaneously. |
| 16:21.03 | martin3z | nkuttler: it's very strange, due it was error before for some commands, but only 1 time per each |
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| 16:23.55 | Grizul | e-anima: would it be enough for wget to make requests to each link or do you actually need to download all the data on each run? |
| 16:24.44 | Grizul | ("--spider" as opposed to "--mirror" might make sense for you in the first case) |
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| 16:25.22 | jacksmithz | is there a LightDM GTK2 Greeter? |
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| 16:26.39 | e-anima | grim4593 a request to the url is enough. that triggers the internal cache creation. |
| 16:26.40 | Pei | can someone tell me how to set the timezone and use ntpd to set the correct time? |
| 16:27.02 | codekK | Hi all, i change my graphic card and i want reconfigure my drivers, my older graphs was 9600 GS and now its 640 GT (nvidia), i have installed the drivers nouveau |
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| 16:29.23 | abcdefg_ | What is the difference between > and >> ? |
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| 16:29.52 | mtn | abcdefg_: one > |
| 16:30.31 | abcdefg_ | mtn: I mean as pipe operator in bash shell |
| 16:31.03 | mtn | abcdefg_: I am sorry, I couldn't help myself. I don't have a real answer. |
| 16:31.18 | abcdefg_ | where can I find it out? |
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| 16:31.53 | mtn | abcdefg_: google doesn't have any ideas? |
| 16:32.54 | abcdefg_ | I found it out |
| 16:32.57 | LtL | abcdefg_: one > directs output, if its to a file it overwrites the original, two will append output to that file and not overwrite, thats a short answer |
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| 16:34.16 | codekK | Hi all, i change my graphic card and i want reconfigure my drivers, my older graphs was 9600 GS and now its 640 GT (nvidia), i have installed the drivers nouveau |
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| 16:37.16 | abcdefg_ | there is apt-cache package |
| 16:37.40 | abcdefg_ | how does an updating client uses it now? does it autodetect or has the ip address to be inserted? |
| 16:37.58 | LtL | abcdefg_: apt-cache is part of apt |
| 16:38.16 | LtL | as far as i know anyway |
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| 16:39.33 | abcdefg_ | I mean when there is an apt-cache server present. |
| 16:39.52 | zykotick9 | abcdefg_: i think you mean apt-cacher (or apt-cacher-ng) |
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| 16:41.12 | zykotick9 | LtL: in case you where wondering, you're right. "dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-cache" gives "apt: /usr/bin/apt-cache" ;) |
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| 16:42.13 | Pei | how do i use ntp to set the correct time? |
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| 16:42.28 | codekK | hi, someone can help my, i change my graphic card and the resolution is very badd |
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| 16:42.48 | codekK | i have nouveau drivers, debian wheezy |
| 16:42.53 | zykotick9 | Pei: install ntp, you're done. |
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| 16:43.06 | Pei | zykotick9: really? |
| 16:43.07 | Pei | wo |
| 16:43.09 | Pei | wpow |
| 16:43.11 | Pei | wow even |
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| 16:56.53 | codekK | some can help me??? i change my graphic card and need reconfigure it, have debian wheezy, my older graph is nvidia 9600 GSO and now have 640 GT. The drivers installed on my debian are nouveau. |
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| 17:00.35 | zykotick9 | codekK: you had nvidia propretary enabled before though right? veryify you have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf (none, and nothing set in xord.conf.d either!). nvidia may have blacklisted nouveau! i'm not sure where that takes place, off the top of my head. also lsmod to verify no nvidia drivers loaded (a reboot can verify that is cleared up). open X and run "xrandr" and see what the resolution is set too. good luck. |
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| 17:00.53 | Aut0Exec | hi guys... umm.... can i install live distro to hd? |
| 17:02.04 | codekK | zykotick9, i dont have nvidia drives installed |
| 17:02.11 | codekK | just nouveau drivers are running |
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| 17:03.13 | zykotick9 | codekK: you said "i have installed the drivers nouveau" but nouveau doesn't requiring installing drivers? which confuses me a bit. if you didn't have nvidia stuff - what does "xrandr" report teh resolution at? |
| 17:03.39 | codekK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.57 | codekK | and i dont have /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:03.58 | zykotick9 | codekK: what's your native resolution? |
| 17:03.58 | Aut0Exec | someone answer me please? |
| 17:04.26 | codekK | 1920x1080 |
| 17:04.28 | zykotick9 | good, you shouldn't for nouveau (to get it working, perhaps after if required) |
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| 17:05.20 | zykotick9 | codekK: what card is it? something really new right? have you checked for noveau compatibility? |
| 17:05.40 | codekK | im looking for it |
| 17:05.57 | zykotick9 | codekK: what's the pciid? use "lspci -nn | grep -i vga" and find the XKJD:#JK$ number. |
| 17:06.12 | codekK | but i dont find the compatibility list |
| 17:06.39 | codekK | [10de:0fc1] |
| 17:06.40 | zykotick9 | codekK: ya, i'm not overly surprised. |
| 17:06.54 | codekK | and sorry for my bad english |
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| 17:07.27 | zykotick9 | ,pciid 10de:0fc1 |
| 17:07.28 | judd | [10de:0fc1] is 'GK107 [GeForce GT 640]' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'nvidiafb' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:0fc1 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 17:07.53 | moebius_eye | Hello |
| 17:08.04 | zykotick9 | codekK: that looks good. is nouveau loaded? "lspci" to confirm. |
| 17:08.17 | zykotick9 | codekK: sorry s/lspci/lsmod/ |
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| 17:08.21 | codekK | y |
| 17:08.24 | codekK | is running i think |
| 17:08.37 | codekK | nouveau 545198 0 |
| 17:08.59 | moebius_eye | I have a thin client (architecture:i586) which only boots from a flashdisk (I have a 2Gb flashdisk). |
| 17:09.09 | moebius_eye | So, my question is: how do I install debian on that machine? |
| 17:09.14 | jgiorgi_ | using pure-ftpd on squeeze how can i set the address for passive connections? the server is nat'ed so it tries to give out its private ip |
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| 17:10.40 | zykotick9 | codekK: i've never had a resolution problem with nouveau before. i'd guess using xrandr to try setting your resolution perhaps??? but i don't know the best thing to suggest. WAIT, are you using a DesktopEnvironment of some sort? Gome/KDE/etc? do you have a GUI config tool for graphics? |
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| 17:10.58 | codekK | i have xfce |
| 17:11.03 | codekK | and i have GUI for screen |
| 17:11.15 | zykotick9 | codekK: can you set resolution there? |
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| 17:11.24 | codekK | and before i dont have problems, but just with my other grapihc card |
| 17:11.30 | codekK | i change now the graphic card |
| 17:11.34 | codekK | yes |
| 17:12.00 | codekK | but the max resolution is 1280x1024 |
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| 17:13.06 | gnarface | codekK: X11 doesn't always properly detect your screen capabilities. especially if you have very cheap or very old (CRTs especially) hardware you may find that you have to manually set the correct horizontal and vertical referesh range for the display before all its resolutions are available |
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| 17:13.10 | zykotick9 | codekK: sorry. i don't know what to suggest... but, best of luck :) |
| 17:13.25 | codekK | ok |
| 17:13.29 | codekK | thank you Zyferus |
| 17:14.04 | zykotick9 | gnarface: is xrandr the proper tool to manually set resolutions? codekK |
| 17:14.04 | moebius_eye | Is there somewhere I can find i586 .img files ? |
| 17:14.10 | codekK | gnarface, i dont have old screen |
| 17:14.22 | moebius_eye | Or, .tar.gz debian systems? |
| 17:14.33 | codekK | and with my other graphic card the screen runs well |
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| 17:15.07 | alexfun | hmm what flood :D |
| 17:15.24 | gnarface | codekK: well i'm just guessing but keep in mind the other card may have different capabilities and auto-detection may behave differently with different video card drivers. do both cards use the same Xorg driver? |
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| 17:15.50 | Roenie | speaking of resolution, i seem to be doing ok editing the xorg config but what about the terminal before X is started? i'd like to have more text on screen, it's a scroll-o-rama |
| 17:16.08 | codekK | gnarface, y i think |
| 17:16.18 | zykotick9 | Roenie: are you using nvidia proprietary? |
| 17:16.22 | Roenie | no |
| 17:16.36 | Roenie | ati card, no prop driver |
| 17:16.41 | gnarface | Roenie: i think these days you set that in /etc/default/grub, (but it will conflict with the nvidia proprietary driver) |
| 17:16.51 | Roenie | running in a vm though |
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| 17:17.11 | Roenie | ah |
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| 17:19.08 | zykotick9 | gnarface: re:nvidia properitary and framebuffer. using v86d and uvesafb the nvidia-propretary issue can be worked around, for better virtual terminal resolution. just sayin' no idea for amd/ati |
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| 17:24.35 | Roenie | gnarface, http://www.intdblog.com/2009/09/grub-2-graphical-boot-tips-to-set.html |
| 17:24.49 | Roenie | the guide is even debian specific |
| 17:25.01 | Roenie | but update-grub = command not found |
| 17:25.10 | Roenie | man grub = not found |
| 17:25.16 | Roenie | info grub = a developers manual only |
| 17:26.00 | gnarface | Roenie: hmm. if you're in a VM i'm not sure if you can do this. |
| 17:26.10 | Roenie | sure i can |
| 17:26.20 | Roenie | the VM has an MBR just the same as a normal rig |
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| 17:27.42 | zykotick9 | Roenie: for a VM, this seems like more trouble then it's worth... |
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| 17:28.07 | Roenie | dude i'm looking at a tiny window on my 30" 2560x1600 display |
| 17:28.12 | Roenie | trust me it's worth doing :) |
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| 17:29.15 | zykotick9 | Roenie: it's gonna depend mostly on your VM's drivers i'd guess, but look into GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 in /etc/default/grub. you need to be root to run "update-grub"... |
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| 17:29.40 | Aut0Exec | hi |
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| 17:29.58 | Roenie | there is no such line though so i will add it and make it 1280x800 |
| 17:30.21 | Roenie | and update-grub does not exist but grub2-mkconfig may still work |
| 17:30.33 | zykotick9 | Roenie: ahhh, there should be an example line... what are you running? |
| 17:30.58 | Roenie | yea it's an older image so there may be differences |
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| 17:31.16 | zykotick9 | Roenie: is this even grub2. what are you running? |
| 17:32.52 | Roenie | fixed... |
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| 17:40.23 | alexfun | how do I copy paste alof of text here? |
| 17:40.29 | alexfun | I got pic of bear :D |
| 17:40.41 | IdleOne | use a pastebin |
| 17:41.40 | metaphysician | debhelper is sleeping? |
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| 17:44.31 | zykotick9 | metaphysician: what's debhelper? dpkg and judd are both replying. |
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| 17:46.25 | metaphysician | my bad.. :( |
| 17:46.37 | metaphysician | never mind |
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| 17:48.09 | haylo | has anyone gotten this option of live-boot to work recently ? "{live-media-encryption|encryption}=TYPE" |
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| 17:48.58 | haylo | its an aging option, and not many people use it. I have gotten the persistence luks encryption to work. but not this aes-loop encryption which is supprted by live-boot |
| 17:49.31 | haylo | so I am hoepful that this option can also still be used, despite limited up to date docs on how |
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| 17:52.16 | haylo | also , one other question: I havent used wicd-curses much. I want to use it in a live build, Does it need any other packages? like "wicd" or anything ? |
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| 17:53.32 | haylo | I cant get to an ethernet cable lately, So i would like to explore wicd-curses a bit, for some light ish weight wireless option, for server type systems. until Im back on ethernet |
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| 17:53.44 | Aut0Exec | dudes can i install debian live distro to hd or not? |
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| 17:54.01 | haylo | Aut0Exec: you mean dd debian live to an hdd ? |
| 17:54.11 | haylo | its not recommended. |
| 17:54.35 | haylo | its better to use the installer, and just install to your hdd |
| 17:54.56 | haylo | but you can dd debian live to an hdd. i do it all the time. but it is buggy |
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| 17:55.06 | haylo | albeit very fast |
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| 17:55.21 | Aut0Exec | haylo: ok thank you |
| 17:55.31 | Eediot | I upgraded from squeeze to wheezy... now I get a black or green screen on bootup. |
| 17:55.34 | Eediot | how can I get in via recovery mode and downgrade back to squeeze? |
| 17:55.38 | Aut0Exec | haylo: can you link me to the correct debian live testing distro? |
| 17:55.46 | _sYnfo | I'm trying to get InspIRCD running, but the initscript seems to fail with "Could not open logfile" so I assume the problem is that the user ("irc") does not have the propper permission, what would be the best way to fix that? |
| 17:55.47 | haylo | Aut0Exec: be careful, if you use persistence, it will be real messy as well. if you get multiple volumes |
| 17:55.54 | Aut0Exec | k |
| 17:56.00 | Aut0Exec | haylo: i plan on using regular install |
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| 17:56.21 | haylo | Aut0Exec: yeah, lets get you the "regular" install image hold on |
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| 17:56.35 | Aut0Exec | ok |
| 17:56.45 | Aut0Exec | haylo: i was hoping for the ldxe image |
| 17:56.50 | haylo | you want something from this page http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
| 17:56.55 | Aut0Exec | haylo: i'm not sure what "regular " is |
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| 17:57.17 | haylo | the installer allows you to choose different desktops at install time. look at the syslinux boot menu some |
| 17:57.20 | Eediot | ...or, how do I deactivate the proprietary AMD driver that is likely the cause of the issue |
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| 17:57.30 | haylo | explore its options. and you will find what i mean. |
| 17:57.30 | Aut0Exec | yeah i'm using yumi installer so... |
| 17:57.33 | Aut0Exec | i need a livedistro |
| 17:58.05 | haylo | Ok well, I build my own debian live, distros. but there are some great pre made images |
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| 17:58.23 | Aut0Exec | ok |
| 17:58.30 | haylo | http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
| 17:58.44 | haylo | open one of those, you will see downloads fro all types of desktops |
| 17:58.55 | haylo | lxde should be there. if not at least xfce probably |
| 17:59.05 | Aut0Exec | ah ok thanks bro |
| 17:59.26 | haylo | I prefer the usb-hdd image. but it all depends on what you need it for.... dvd , usb .... |
| 17:59.29 | haylo | np |
| 17:59.35 | Aut0Exec | i like testing |
| 17:59.37 | Aut0Exec | wheezy |
| 17:59.44 | Aut0Exec | i'll see if i can find that |
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| 17:59.52 | haylo | the hybrid iso, can be used on usb, and on dvd |
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| 18:00.49 | haylo | here are some pre-mades by debian.net http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/next+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
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| 18:01.22 | Aut0Exec | ahh ok |
| 18:01.25 | haylo | that is different than debian.org though. but still very legit, it links to all of Baumanns work on debian live build |
| 18:01.37 | cuqa | hi, i have a problem with screen. often screen displays: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check. |
| 18:01.47 | haylo | but they have the testing images you are looking for (wheezy) |
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| 18:02.14 | cuqa | it seems to be a permission problem. what I do currently do to bypass this issue is chmod 777 the tty* files in /dev |
| 18:02.23 | haylo | Aut0Exec: join #debian-live on irc.oftc.net . there is a lot to debian live |
| 18:02.31 | Aut0Exec | haylo: thanks alot |
| 18:02.59 | haylo | np :) |
| 18:03.35 | cuqa | this even happens when screen is already running. I cant resume the screen after a while without chmodding the files again. could anyone give a brief explanation whats up with that permissions of /dev/tty* files |
| 18:03.43 | haylo | oufo: no, dont ever chmod 777, its very messy |
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| 18:03.59 | haylo | and it wont do what you want anyway |
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| 18:05.14 | cuqa | how would I do changes permanent and which permission level is preferable |
| 18:05.28 | cuqa | tbh I dont rly know atm what the tty* files do |
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| 18:06.44 | haylo | cuqa: lets wait for a dev, its odd that you have to chmod them at all |
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| 18:08.34 | haylo | but if you really must change them permanantly look at the ACLs, that is the first number in a 4 number permission scheme |
| 18:08.58 | haylo | making chmod 755 look like: chmod 0755 or chmod 1755 |
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| 18:09.51 | haylo | do an ls -la , on the /dev/tty 's and see if you can figure out how the permission scheming went all wrong. |
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| 18:13.04 | cuqa | think the current default value is 660 |
| 18:13.21 | cuqa | crw-rw---- |
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| 18:14.26 | Nik05 | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 0 Feb 16 2013 /dev/tty |
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| 18:15.32 | florin1996 | hi |
| 18:15.36 | Nik05 | hi |
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| 18:15.47 | florin1996 | i have a microphonw wich not work |
| 18:16.10 | florin1996 | and a webcam which works, i can make a photo but in skype do not work |
| 18:16.29 | florin1996 | microphone* |
| 18:16.45 | florin1996 | i need to install something? |
| 18:16.54 | florin1996 | ideas? |
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| 18:17.16 | florin1996 | i have a laptop toshiba satellite |
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| 18:17.31 | Nik05 | drivers? |
| 18:17.50 | florin1996 | driver for microhpone? |
| 18:18.03 | florin1996 | how install a driver in debian? |
| 18:18.13 | florin1996 | at webcam i have driver cd only for windows |
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| 18:18.59 | Nik05 | http://wiki.debian.org/Webcam |
| 18:20.27 | florin1996 | and microphone? |
| 18:20.28 | babilen | florin1996: Which version of Debian do you use? Have you unmuted the microphone /and/ raised its level? Do you use pulseaudio? How did you install skype? Does the webcam work in cheese? Does the microphone work with, say, arecord? |
| 18:20.51 | babilen | florin1996: (adjust levels in alsamixer and pavucontrol (latter only if you use pulseaudio)) |
| 18:20.52 | florin1996 | webcam works in cheese |
| 18:21.02 | babilen | florin1996: Ok, so there is no problem with the webcam. |
| 18:21.10 | florin1996 | in skype not works |
| 18:21.12 | babilen | *shrug* |
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| 18:21.23 | florin1996 | i have debian 6 |
| 18:21.45 | babilen | florin1996: Check skype's configuration and /please/ provide some details about your system. My crystal ball is great and all, but still limited in what it can do ;) |
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| 18:22.20 | florin1996 | i have a 4tech webcam |
| 18:22.29 | florin1996 | in skype black screen appear |
| 18:22.37 | florin1996 | in cheese it works perfectly |
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| 18:23.09 | babilen | florin1996: Ok, how did you install skype? |
| 18:23.27 | cuqa | thanks Nik05 and haylo |
| 18:23.32 | florin1996 | i downloaded package and i install it |
| 18:23.51 | babilen | florin1996: Which version and are you using amd64 or i386 (or another architecture) ? |
| 18:24.02 | florin1996 | i386 |
| 18:24.04 | Nik05 | cuqa what did i do? |
| 18:24.35 | Nik05 | oh right tty |
| 18:24.36 | cuqa | post permissions :p |
| 18:24.40 | florin1996 | i386 |
| 18:24.44 | florin1996 | babilen |
| 18:24.48 | cuqa | that are ur unchanged permissions I assume |
| 18:25.03 | Nik05 | well i didnt change anything but it is on unstable |
| 18:25.10 | cuqa | strangely I just found another post at google which recommends 0660 permission :/ |
| 18:25.18 | Nik05 | (dont think thats different from stable) |
| 18:25.27 | babilen | florin1996: I know that the newer skype versions (I simply assume that you are using that now) target a newer version of Debian. I am likely to suggest you to upgrade to it and give that one a try. The upgrade procedure is detailed in http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 18:25.45 | babilen | florin1996: Any particular reason why you use i386 and not amd64? |
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| 18:26.31 | babilen | florin1996: Just curious... Would also be interesting to know which processor you have and how much RAM. (and to know when you installed that box) |
| 18:26.52 | florin1996 | i 386 because i have intel celeron 1.8 |
| 18:26.55 | florin1996 | 1 gb ram |
| 18:27.04 | florin1996 | amd runs slower i heard |
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| 18:28.31 | babilen | florin1996: yeah, i386 is okay for that hardware ... A statement such as "definitely runs slower" is bound to be wrong. There might be cases, but then in others it might be faster. Either way: I don't think that recent skype versions are partituclarly happy on squeeze, but I can't and won't support skype in here. |
| 18:28.56 | babilen | florin1996: Play with your mixer levels for your microphone and test recording with something like arecord. |
| 18:29.08 | sKeiths | trying to install steam and it complains about "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.15)". Any help? |
| 18:29.45 | florin1996 | i can install skype in wine? |
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| 18:29.58 | florin1996 | maybe works in a windows virtual PC |
| 18:29.59 | ogonec | hi |
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| 18:30.13 | Nik05 | sKeiths i guess your libc6 version is too low? |
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| 18:31.10 | sKeiths | i'm completely uptodate with apt=get update; apt-get upgrade |
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| 18:31.22 | babilen | sKeiths: Try #steamlug for steam support. You are much more likely to find people discussing steam there :) |
| 18:31.33 | sKeiths | thanks. will do. |
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| 18:51.59 | bluesm | Hi. Am I able to install libc6 >= 2.15 |
| 18:52.03 | bluesm | On wheezy ? |
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| 18:54.10 | babilen | bluesm: No (or wouldn't recommend it), recompile whatever program needs that version |
| 18:54.39 | Grizul | Guessing Steam... |
| 18:54.58 | Nik05 | and steam is not open source? :P |
| 18:55.08 | babilen | If steam → #steamlug -- It is a common "problem" and they'll know what to do. |
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| 18:55.48 | babilen | Steam is (AFAIK) not packaged in Debian and we can't/won't support it |
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| 18:56.55 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:57.11 | babilen | bluesm: Well, then ask in the appropriate channel. |
| 18:57.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell bluesm about steam |
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| 18:57.57 | babilen | But please don't bork your system by mindlessly installing a newer libc6 version please |
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| 19:00.23 | derbain | what might be the fastest way to get a default sound setup in wheezy? purging alsa and pulseaudio and reinstalling hasn't had the effect. |
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| 19:00.36 | bluesm | babilen: So What "mindful" mean ? Or mindfully installing ? :] |
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| 19:02.17 | Pei | means think about it |
| 19:02.19 | Pei | ;) |
| 19:02.34 | Pei | give extra thought ti |
| 19:02.37 | Pei | to* |
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| 19:04.35 | babilen | bluesm: I meant: Don't do it |
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| 19:13.40 | bluesm | babilen: I have something against steam ? |
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| 19:25.51 | jusbvp | squeeze 6.0.6, wheezy frozen, lenny EOL thank you |
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| 19:48.27 | xeon123 | I'm trying to install libtool but I get this error of broken dependencies (http://paste.debian.net/234722/). If I try to install libc6 I get another error (http://paste.debian.net/234723/). If I try to solve this dependency, I have another broken dependency. How do I install libtool in Debian 6? |
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| 19:50.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell xeon123 -about bat |
| 19:51.09 | jgiorgi_ | after installing xen on debian my monitor output is moving so quickly i can't read any of it or login, any idea why or how to correct |
| 19:51.47 | xeon123 | babilen: With the command (dpkg --install libtool), I got the error cannot access archive: No such file or directory |
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| 19:55.55 | LtL | xeon123: with that command, libtool*.deb would need to be in the current directory. dpkg -i libtool.deb for example |
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| 19:56.52 | xeon123 | LtL: So you suggest me to download libtool from the web, and install it? |
| 19:57.01 | acx0 | is it recommended to make files belonging to some web service to be owned by www-data instead of another non-root user? I installed fluxbb on my server and was wondering if I should change the owner of the files |
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| 19:57.49 | LtL | xeon123: is it not in the debian rpositories? yes you would need to get it elsewhere but expect issues. |
| 19:58.20 | xeon123 | LtL: I thought it should be there, but I got these broken dependencies. |
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| 19:59.38 | kiaas | I'm on a machine with an R500 GPU. I want to be able to do 1 of 2 things without having to go through an manually compile a ton of things frequently, and those are: Use the Xorg 7.4 era graphics stack so I can use fglrx or have the newest FOSS drivers, such as what the Xorg-Edgers PPA allows on mint and ubuntu. |
| 19:59.54 | LtL | xeon123: libtool is in the squeeze repo, just apt-get install libtool, or apt-cache search libtool. you should fix anything broken first. |
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| 20:01.53 | babilen | xeon123: Just run "apt-get install libtool" -- Or provide the information I (or rather our bot dpkg) asked for. |
| 20:02.04 | kiaas | how can I install and "pin" things so I only get Xorg 7.4 and nothing newer? |
| 20:02.27 | xeon123 | babilen: provided. It's in (http://paste.debian.net/234722/, and http://paste.debian.net/234723/ |
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| 20:04.17 | babilen | xeon123: No, it is not. Please paste your sources.list, the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy libtool libc6 libc6-dev" and the entire output of "apt-get install libtool" on http://paste.debian.net |
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| 20:05.47 | jgiorgi_ | is it possible to read the video feed from ssh? when i plug in a monitor I get so much debugging/system output i can't read it or figure out whats wrong |
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| 20:07.19 | xeon123 | babilen: The output is here: http://paste.debian.net/234731/. I think this is a problem of versions, but I don't know how to correct it. |
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| 20:10.51 | well_laid_lawn | jgiorgi_: where do you get all the debugging/system output? over your ssh connection? |
| 20:12.01 | babilen | xeon123: Yes, it is most definitely a version problem. You somehow installed a newer libc6 version than the one in squeeze. Your system is essentially borked and you will most likely have to upgrade it completely to wheezy (follow http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html) |
| 20:12.13 | babilen | xeon123: How did that libc6 version get on your system? |
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| 20:12.36 | xeon123 | when I reinstall gnome-desktop-environment. |
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| 20:14.36 | babilen | xeon123: Well, you would have /never/ ended up with that libc6 version from squeeze repositories. You must have done something "funny" - Be that as it may it is too late now. Just upgrade to wheezy (by following the release notes) and remember to /never/ mix stable with anything by backports! |
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| 20:15.15 | Nik05 | but* |
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| 20:15.47 | Nik05 | guys i have a question about the installer |
| 20:16.15 | Nik05 | when you install wheezy and you install the system default utilitys or something |
| 20:16.22 | Nik05 | 'aptitude search ~pstandard' |
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| 20:16.30 | babilen | Yes? |
| 20:16.41 | Nik05 | it installs for example 'host', but this is a dummy package. Why would they put that in the installer? |
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| 20:17.17 | Nik05 | wouldnt it be alot clear when they remove dummys from the installer? |
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| 20:17.53 | kiaas | I want to use fglrx for my Radeon X1600, however, support ended after catalyst 9.3. Catalyst 9.3's is compatible with no versions of xorg after 7.4, so if I want to use fglrx I have to use catalyst 9.3 and xorg 7.4 or older. That's software from 2009. |
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| 20:18.02 | jgiorgi_ | well_laid_lawn: monitor output |
| 20:18.48 | jgiorgi_ | well_laid_lawn: i'm getting so much that the monitor output is useless, i was hoping if i could read it in a controlled fashion via ssh i might be able to figure out whats causing it and make my KVM useful for repairs if it becomes necessary |
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| 20:22.47 | Nik05 | ho babilen there is already an bug report for it... :P |
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| 20:22.56 | Nik05 | But no one is replying to it |
| 20:23.20 | xeon123 | babilen: But I can unstall libc6 and gnome-desktop-environment, and install again, right? |
| 20:24.00 | pelle2 | i have a problem with permissions |
| 20:24.07 | pelle2 | aparently, I can create files and directories on a network share, but i cant write to them afterwards |
| 20:24.25 | pelle2 | it applies to rtorrent when it creates files and then tries to download the data, all files are created but it cannot put any data in them? |
| 20:24.56 | pelle2 | also, if i create a file with nano, i can create a file with text in it fine, but if i open it again and add text and try to save it again, i don't have write permission?! |
| 20:25.03 | well_laid_lawn | jgiorgi_: that sounds strange. like the system is buffering the boot messages and displaying them when you connect the monitor. what's the vid card? I have no idea how to get the vid feed transferred over ssh except for X forwarding |
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| 20:26.30 | dodger | hi :) |
| 20:26.38 | pelle2 | how can this be? |
| 20:27.10 | jgiorgi_ | well_laid_lawn: no idea what the vid card is, it's an entry level server so probably crap, do you know what tty is sent to the vid? might be able to monitor that from ssh |
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| 20:28.02 | wpsmith | So what do I do if I am getting an error Permission denied as root |
| 20:28.03 | wpsmith | ? |
| 20:28.15 | well_laid_lawn | jgiorgi_: it'll be whatever tty is active - so initially tty1 I would think |
| 20:29.05 | kiaas | Ok, so I need the graphics stack from lenny, but I think everything else from squeeze would work. |
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| 20:36.54 | jaggz-- | if I want to su to a user and run a command, while maintaining security (not leaving a root login around), is either exec su or exec sudo an appropriate way? |
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| 20:38.21 | _KaszpiR_ | man sudo |
| 20:38.32 | _KaszpiR_ | and you will know |
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| 20:44.12 | MO_Handes | does Wheezy work on touch screen laptops? I like to buy one and get rid of Windows 8. but I'm not sure if Wheezy supports it. |
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| 20:45.05 | ectospasm | MO_Handes: watch out, Windows 8 tablets or laptops most likely have that nasty Secure Boot UEFI nonsense. |
| 20:45.24 | MO_Handes | ectospasm, what is it? |
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| 20:45.59 | ectospasm | MO_Handes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot |
| 20:46.10 | MO_Handes | is it the piece of shit that loads windows bootloader and does not let grub to be loaded? |
| 20:46.21 | ectospasm | I dunno if Debian is one of the "select Linux distributions" |
| 20:47.08 | ectospasm | MO_Handes: I believe so |
| 20:47.57 | MO_Handes | as far as I know it can be disabled from setup |
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| 20:48.47 | ectospasm | I think on the M$ Surface it can't be disabled. YMMV |
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| 20:49.17 | MO_Handes | does the touch gestures work on Debian? |
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| 20:49.23 | ectospasm | and I thought I saw where some group (Linux Foundation?) bought a key to share with all distros. |
| 20:49.35 | ectospasm | MO_Handes: I don't see why not, but I can't answer that with any authority. |
| 20:49.41 | wpsmith | Can anyone help me with get Permission denied when logged in as root? |
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| 20:49.59 | MO_Handes | wpsmith, what are you trying to do? |
| 20:50.05 | wpsmith | permission denied when running nano |
| 20:50.12 | wpsmith | permission denied on everything |
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| 20:50.30 | wpsmith | file owner/group was not changed |
| 20:50.34 | ectospasm | wpsmith: does "whoami" work? Or "who am i"? |
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| 20:50.52 | MO_Handes | it because you are a guy who doesn't have permissions to do shit |
| 20:51.08 | wpsmith | MO_Handes: anything? I'm root! |
| 20:51.09 | ectospasm | wpsmith: can you read the permissions of one of these executables? |
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| 20:51.28 | wpsmith | ectospasm: yes responds with root |
| 20:51.30 | ectospasm | root cannot always do *everything* (thankfully) |
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| 20:51.52 | babilen | xeon123: No, you cannot remove libc6 and downgrading it might be rather complicated too. I'd recommend to upgrade to wheezy. |
| 20:51.52 | ectospasm | wpsmith: ls -l $(which nano) |
| 20:52.28 | wpsmith | can I dump that into a text file ectospasm |
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| 20:53.25 | ectospasm | wpsmith: well, the command "which nano" will tell you the full path of nano. ls -l $(which nano) will list the normal UNIX metadata for nano |
| 20:53.46 | ectospasm | ...including permissions |
| 20:54.03 | ectospasm | my hunch is that nano et al have lost executable permissions |
| 20:54.14 | wpsmith | total 0 |
| 20:54.16 | ectospasm | ...either that or /usr/bin has lost executable permissions. |
| 20:54.19 | Nik05 | lol |
| 20:54.31 | ectospasm | wpsmith: echo $PATH |
| 20:54.58 | whitePawn | Asshole , mess with.the besy die.like the.rest |
| 20:54.59 | wpsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.13 | whitePawn | Time is tickinf old man |
| 20:55.36 | whitePawn | How was the arbies did it huet ur htwatt wronf.boots |
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| 20:56.08 | Nik05 | nano should be in /bin/nano an symlinked at /usr/bin/nano.. |
| 20:56.18 | whitePawn | Copsky join vampiro |
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| 20:57.07 | wsky | O_o |
| 20:57.27 | wpsmith | ectospasm: thoughts? |
| 20:57.44 | whitePawn | Watch syi.f? |
| 20:57.57 | ectospasm | wpsmith: so nano with no arguments does what exactly? |
| 20:58.15 | whitePawn | Break the beaker sign code |
| 20:58.19 | phogg | !ops whitePawn spam |
| 20:58.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: phogg complains about: whitePawn spam |
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| 20:58.30 | wpsmith | ectospasm: -bash: /usr/bin/nano: Permission denied |
| 20:58.32 | wizack | How do I make calls with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Empathy |
| 20:58.39 | wizack | debian even |
| 20:58.50 | ectospasm | wpsmith: ls -l /usr/bin/nano |
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| 20:59.08 | whitePawn | Lioks like rhe little biat.floaye d iver |
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| 20:59.31 | wpsmith | ectospasm: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug 10 2012 /usr/bin/nano -> /bin/nano |
| 20:59.33 | Nik05 | and ls -l /bin/nano |
| 20:59.41 | whitePawn | Fu |
| 20:59.43 | whitePawn | Fu |
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| 21:02.11 | Nik05 | !ping |
| 21:02.11 | dpkg | pong |
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| 21:03.12 | Nik05 | wpsmith isnt it working? |
| 21:03.28 | wpsmith | Nik05: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 170236 Apr 15 2010 /bin/nano |
| 21:03.57 | Nik05 | there is your problem :P |
| 21:04.04 | wpsmith | -bash: /usr/bin/nano: Permission denied |
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| 21:04.21 | Nik05 | it should be -rwxr-xr-x |
| 21:04.25 | wpsmith | Nik05: what's the Problem? |
| 21:04.28 | wpsmith | what's that number? |
| 21:04.29 | Nik05 | chmod +x /bin/nano |
| 21:04.48 | wpsmith | what did u do? |
| 21:04.54 | wpsmith | I need to do that on all of them |
| 21:04.56 | wpsmith | ? |
| 21:05.03 | ectospasm | if they're all like that, yes |
| 21:05.07 | wpsmith | what's the number Nik05 ? what is +x? |
| 21:05.17 | wpsmith | can I do it in 1 command line? |
| 21:05.18 | Nik05 | +x means file is executable |
| 21:05.27 | ectospasm | +x means add executable bit to every ugo field |
| 21:05.37 | Nik05 | and everything in /bin should be executable |
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| 21:05.51 | ectospasm | actually, everything in $PATH should be executable. |
| 21:06.10 | wpsmith | Nik05 ectospasm so can I do that in one command line? |
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| 21:06.33 | wpsmith | Nik05 ectospasm is there a log that records permission changes? |
| 21:06.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 21:06.41 | Nik05 | no |
| 21:07.10 | ectospasm | wpsmith: you could probably do it with one command (a for loop) |
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| 21:08.21 | Nik05 | lucky his chmod was still executable... or is it impossible to change that one? |
| 21:08.38 | wpsmith | Nik05: I believe it's impossible bcs they all were changed |
| 21:08.40 | wpsmith | al |
| 21:08.41 | wpsmith | all |
| 21:08.50 | wpsmith | ectospasm suggested command line? |
| 21:09.28 | Nik05 | chmod +x /bin/* ?:P |
| 21:09.37 | wpsmith | ectospasm Nik05 what is the recommend permission # for bin |
| 21:09.38 | ectospasm | I'm working on it... getting tripped up using sed to split the path into a for loop. |
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| 21:09.56 | ectospasm | wpsmith: 755 |
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| 21:10.36 | wpsmith | Nik05: chmod: cannot access `?:P': No such file or directory |
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| 21:10.49 | Nik05 | no... dont do that... |
| 21:10.55 | Nik05 | 'chmod +x /bin/*' |
| 21:11.08 | wpsmith | ah a ? and a face |
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| 21:11.10 | wpsmith | my bad |
| 21:11.18 | Nik05 | my bad |
| 21:11.40 | [w_w] | I want to develop with opendbx... http://www.linuxnetworks.de/doc/index.php/OpenDBX Does debian (testing) not have this in the repos? |
| 21:11.55 | ectospasm | wpsmith: for dir in $(echo $PATH | sed 's/:/ /g' -); do chdmod 755 $dir/*; done |
| 21:12.11 | ectospasm | s/chdmod/chmod/ |
| 21:12.49 | wpsmith | what's the s/chmod/chmod ? |
| 21:13.03 | Nik05 | for dir in $(echo $PATH | sed 's/:/ /g' -); do chmod 755 $dir/*; done |
| 21:13.07 | ectospasm | wpsmith: for dir in $(echo $PATH | sed 's/:/ /g' -); do chmod 755 $dir/*; done << I originally made a typo |
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| 21:13.45 | Nik05 | or you could just type the command 4 times :p |
| 21:14.01 | ectospasm | but that's no fun |
| 21:14.25 | ectospasm | and besides, it looked like $PATH had more than just four directories in it. |
| 21:14.30 | Nik05 | oh ok |
| 21:14.43 | wpsmith | chmod: cannot access `/usr/local/sbin/*': No such file or directory |
| 21:14.50 | wpsmith | chmod: cannot access `/usr/local/bin/*': No such file or directory |
| 21:14.56 | wpsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.28 | Nik05 | ok the /usr/local isnt a problem |
| 21:15.29 | ectospasm | /usr/local/?bin is probably empty |
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| 21:15.56 | ectospasm | that dangling symlink is only a problem if you need to use gserialver |
| 21:16.15 | ectospasm | you can do "dpkg -S /usr/bin/gserialver" to determine which package owns that broken link. |
| 21:16.24 | Nik05 | but the question is wpsmith how did you remove executable bits? |
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| 21:16.52 | wpsmith | ok |
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| 21:16.55 | Nik05 | gcj-jre-headless |
| 21:17.15 | Nik05 | or not? |
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| 21:19.08 | wpsmith | Nik05: was I supposed to type that? |
| 21:19.27 | Nik05 | yes :P |
| 21:19.35 | Nik05 | well dont need to |
| 21:19.44 | wpsmith | what does that do? |
| 21:19.56 | wpsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.56 | Nik05 | "to determine which package owns that broken link." |
| 21:20.01 | Nik05 | no not that |
| 21:20.06 | Nik05 | "dpkg -S /usr/bin/gserialver" |
| 21:20.25 | wpsmith | gcj-jre-headless: /usr/bin/gserialver |
| 21:20.47 | Nik05 | so i was correct :) |
| 21:21.20 | Nik05 | well apt-file was... |
| 21:21.52 | Nik05 | not sure if it should be dangling |
| 21:22.17 | wpsmith | what is gerialver? |
| 21:22.18 | Nik05 | but wpsmith any idea how you fucked up your system? |
| 21:22.23 | wpsmith | NO IDEA |
| 21:22.34 | wpsmith | logged into today, boom crapped out |
| 21:22.37 | ectospasm | run any commands lately that you didn't fully understand? |
| 21:22.42 | wpsmith | no |
| 21:22.46 | Nik05 | thats a lie! :P |
| 21:23.11 | wpsmith | Nik05: google works well & fast |
| 21:23.59 | Nik05 | wpsmith what did you do before it broke? |
| 21:24.03 | wpsmith | Nik05 ectospasm any ideas on y my FTP is no longer working? |
| 21:24.10 | wpsmith | Nik05 "fixing" apache |
| 21:24.15 | wpsmith | config files |
| 21:24.22 | wpsmith | adding a virtual host |
| 21:24.39 | Nik05 | only used nano? |
| 21:24.41 | wpsmith | I re-installed default apache configs |
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| 21:24.47 | wpsmith | no, via FTP |
| 21:24.56 | Nik05 | ok |
| 21:25.14 | wpsmith | I think my FTP client did something funky |
| 21:25.20 | ectospasm | most likely |
| 21:25.20 | Nik05 | ftp can fuck it up... |
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| 21:25.31 | ectospasm | especially if you were FTPing as root |
| 21:25.37 | Nik05 | dont give your ftp access to everything |
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| 21:26.13 | ectospasm | yeah, under Linux/BSD most FTP services should be walled off in a chroot. |
| 21:26.14 | Nik05 | ftp is not for change conf files on system |
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| 21:26.33 | ectospasm | sftp is much safer IMO |
| 21:26.40 | wpsmith | yes, I am using SFTP |
| 21:26.48 | wpsmith | my apologies but it has access to everything |
| 21:26.54 | wpsmith | they have a very very poor setup |
| 21:27.01 | ectospasm | ...but if you're doing it as root you deserve what you got |
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| 21:27.18 | Nik05 | you shouldnt be able to login as root... |
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| 21:28.10 | wpsmith | Nik05: they have me logging in as root into FTP!! |
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| 21:28.20 | Nik05 | dont do that... |
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| 21:28.31 | Nik05 | login with ssh |
| 21:28.50 | Nik05 | and even better login in with other user |
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| 21:29.17 | ectospasm | if you're using an SFTP client's text editor, I don't know what to tell you. Doesn't sound like a good idea. |
| 21:29.36 | Nik05 | wpsmith its possible you changed alot more then just this |
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| 21:30.22 | Nik05 | wpsmith what is running on it? |
| 21:30.52 | wpsmith | ectospasm using Notepad++ |
| 21:31.15 | wpsmith | Nik05 apache |
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| 21:31.35 | ectospasm | Notepad++ is a Windows program, no? |
| 21:31.37 | ompaul | wpsmith: o m g does that indicate exactly the level of surprise these people who are helping you might be suffering from, as for recovery, you may not be able to get there from here, you might want to consider a fresh install and throw on the backups as an overlay having dropped them as a tarball into a safe location for you to cherry pick |
| 21:31.47 | Nik05 | notepad++ is a windows program yes ecto |
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| 21:32.40 | ectospasm | does notepad++ read (and preserve) UNIX newlines? |
| 21:32.45 | ectospasm | not that it matters for this |
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| 21:32.52 | Nik05 | ectospasm yes |
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| 21:33.02 | ompaul | ectospasm: with lots of ^Ms I'd guess but it's a guess |
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| 21:33.13 | Nik05 | not sure if thats is default :P |
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| 21:33.28 | Nik05 | so he is also fucking up his config files... |
| 21:33.48 | ompaul | as I said - clean install and restore from backups cherry picking what you actually need |
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| 21:33.53 | wpsmith | ectospasm: yes it preserves |
| 21:34.19 | wpsmith | ectospasm Nik05 I definitely appreciate everything!!! |
| 21:34.19 | ectospasm | still doesn't sound like a good idea... is notepad++ also the S/FTP client? |
| 21:34.30 | wpsmith | ectospasm no |
| 21:34.32 | Nik05 | dont think so |
| 21:34.38 | wpsmith | FileZilla SFTP |
| 21:34.59 | wpsmith | ectospasm: prob not the best because I just changed |
| 21:35.08 | wpsmith | to Bitvise |
| 21:35.12 | ectospasm | oh, well... I use midnight-commander for my file browser stuff (including S/FTP, Samba, etc.) |
| 21:35.28 | wpsmith | ectospasm Nik05 any suggestions on why I can no longer log in as root? |
| 21:35.41 | Ziarkaen | I want to run a script daily, whenever my PC happens to be on. I read that /etc/cron.daily allows this through anacron. However, anacron seems to be launched from /etc/crontab at a specific time (25 6 * * *). If my PC is off then, wouldn;t anacron simply not be run? |
| 21:36.28 | Nik05 | wpsmith reinstall, in /etc/ssh/sshd_config set PermitRootLogin to 'no' |
| 21:36.29 | Nik05 | :P |
| 21:36.45 | ectospasm | wpsmith: can you log in as a regular user? |
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| 21:37.58 | Nik05 | Ziarkaen anacron will run cron.daily if your computer was off when cron.daily should have been run |
| 21:38.01 | wpsmith | Nik05: I understand that |
| 21:38.07 | wpsmith | writing proposal to change all of this |
| 21:38.45 | Nik05 | wpsmith can you login as non-root? |
| 21:39.08 | Nik05 | probalbly cause how did you otherwise change file permissions with chmod? |
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| 21:40.13 | Ziarkaen | Nik05: OK. And how is anacron started? It is not running on my machine currently. Does it just check at boottime whether cron missed something? |
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| 21:41.41 | wpsmith | nik05 file connections remained but new are being denied |
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| 21:43.46 | Nik05 | Ziarkaen anacron should be a daemon |
| 21:43.55 | Nik05 | wpsmith is sshd running? |
| 21:44.14 | wpsmith | Nik05: Server disconnected without sending disconnect message |
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| 21:44.29 | Nik05 | oh wait Ziarkaen anacron isnt runnning here either |
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| 21:45.44 | Nik05 | Ziarkaen not sure how anacron works |
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| 21:46.11 | ectospasm | man anacron |
| 21:46.25 | ectospasm | it's probably woken up by (Vixie) cron |
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| 21:48.19 | wpsmith | Nik05: openssh is running |
| 21:48.50 | Nik05 | wpsmith could be a lot of things now... |
| 21:49.06 | Nik05 | we cant assume file permissions are correct |
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| 21:50.29 | wpsmith | Nik05: so what files control ftp |
| 21:50.42 | Nik05 | you mean ssh? |
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| 21:50.49 | Nik05 | well sshd does |
| 21:51.03 | Nik05 | sshd, pam, login, etc... |
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| 21:52.15 | wpsmith | Nik05: so files in /var/run/sshd should be +x |
| 21:52.16 | wpsmith | ? |
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| 21:52.35 | ectospasm | uh, no |
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| 21:52.43 | wpsmith | well there isn't anything there |
| 21:52.43 | wpsmith | ha |
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| 21:53.10 | Nik05 | neither is here |
| 21:53.21 | Ziarkaen | So the solution to running something daily, regardless of PC power state, as myuser, is to put a script 'su myuser -c "cd ~ && ./myscript"' into /etc/cron.daily ? |
| 21:53.22 | Ziarkaen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.24 | Nik05 | what about reinstall sshd? :P |
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| 21:54.18 | ectospasm | Ziarkaen: or /etc/anacrontab |
| 21:54.25 | Nik05 | yep anacrontab |
| 21:54.55 | ectospasm | Ziarkaen: many of these questions would better serve you by "man anacron" or "man cron" |
| 21:55.08 | wpsmith | Nik05: file permissions in /etc/ssh |
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| 21:55.53 | Ziarkaen | What's the advantage of anacrontab? The setup still seems sonfusing to me... anacrontab contains lines dealing with /etc/cron.*, and /etc/cron.daily contains an anacrontab script. I've read both man pages. |
| 21:56.00 | Nik05 | Ziarkaen i dont thing you can use anacron as user |
| 21:56.17 | Nik05 | what about at? |
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| 21:56.41 | wpsmith | Nik05: is this 755 -rwxr-xr-x |
| 21:56.45 | ectospasm | at is for nonrepetitive tasks |
| 21:56.52 | ectospasm | wpsmith: yes |
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| 22:05.06 | ajikeshi | http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2013/02/bbc-attacks-the-open-web-gnulinux-in-danger/index.htm |
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| 22:09.43 | Kunsi | ajikeshi: now THAT's what everybody in this world really needs! |
| 22:14.04 | Nik05 | wpsmith still working on it? |
| 22:14.17 | wpsmith | Nik05: nervous about re-installing ssh |
| 22:14.28 | wpsmith | that means I would have on access to the site really |
| 22:14.35 | wpsmith | as I am remote |
| 22:15.41 | ectospasm | wpsmith: it would be simpler to wipe and reinstall, then restore from backup. |
| 22:15.59 | Nik05 | dont think he has a back up :P |
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| 22:17.03 | ectospasm | tsk tsk |
| 22:17.34 | ectospasm | trying to fix things when you don't know how it broke sounds like an effort in futility |
| 22:17.35 | wpsmith | ectospasm Nik05 I concur. never occurred to me to have a mirror of apache, et al |
| 22:17.36 | wpsmith | ha |
| 22:17.44 | Nik05 | reinstall openssh-server wouldnt drop existing connections, right? |
| 22:17.45 | wpsmith | ectospasm: yes it feels that way |
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| 22:17.58 | wsky | i'm out of popcorn :-( |
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| 22:18.03 | wpsmith | Nik05 ectospasm would have to answer that |
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| 22:18.21 | ectospasm | reinstalling openssh-server shouldn't drop existing connections |
| 22:18.25 | Nik05 | ok i just reinstall openssh-server on this system, and im still here :P |
| 22:18.39 | ectospasm | just like restarting sshd won't drop connections. |
| 22:18.43 | ectospasm | Of course, YMMV |
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| 22:19.23 | _ingsoc | Hi, I've got a question about building DRI and Mesa from git. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong spot, but I'm trying to get it to work on sid. Everything compiles fine, and I use --prefix=/usr, but I can't seem to get the system to use the new libraries. Any idea how I do this? |
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| 22:19.55 | Nik05 | you are compiling and installing in /usr ...? |
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| 22:20.17 | Nik05 | put it in /usr/local |
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| 22:20.39 | wpsmith | Nik05: how can I reinstall ssh then? |
| 22:20.48 | Nik05 | and you probably need to do something with ldd _ingsoc |
| 22:20.51 | _ingsoc | Nik05: Probably not best practice, but I used this guide: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building |
| 22:21.01 | _ingsoc | Nik05: Any ideas how I do that? |
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| 22:21.40 | Nik05 | wpsmith you use aptitude or apt-get? |
| 22:22.10 | Nik05 | _ingsoc: ldconfig ? |
| 22:22.27 | Nik05 | read man page, im not an expert at this (or in anything...) |
| 22:23.04 | Nik05 | but wpsmith can you find something in your logs, why you cant login with ssh? |
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| 22:24.28 | Nik05 | _ingsoc and i would install it in /usr/local |
| 22:25.17 | _ingsoc | So I guess sudo make uninstall? |
| 22:25.32 | Nik05 | i dont know |
| 22:25.42 | Nik05 | i would install something i compiled in /usr |
| 22:26.08 | wpsmith | apt-get |
| 22:27.28 | Nik05 | apt-get --reinstall |
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| 22:27.56 | Nik05 | apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server |
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| 22:28.14 | Nik05 | if apt-get is still working... |
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| 22:29.36 | Nik05 | _ingsoc: but is ldconfig working? |
| 22:29.48 | Nik05 | it should find the libs you installed |
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| 22:31.01 | hyppias | on my local net I have 2 debian machines. I want to copy some files from one to the other. How? |
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| 22:31.35 | _ingsoc | Nik05: I'm recompiling it now to see. :S |
| 22:31.52 | Nik05 | hyppias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_File_Transfer_Protocol |
| 22:32.02 | wpsmith | Nik05: insserv: warning: script 'K01jailkit' missing LSB tags and overrides |
| 22:32.12 | wpsmith | insserv: warning: script 'jailkit' missing LSB tags and overrides |
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| 22:32.19 | wpsmith | Permissions 0711 for '/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key' are too open. |
| 22:32.48 | Nik05 | yes wpsmith we know you fucked upo the permissions :P |
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| 22:33.20 | wpsmith | Nik05: it also says This private key will be ignored. |
| 22:33.24 | wpsmith | bad permissions: ignore key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key |
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| 22:34.01 | wpsmith | nik I didn't use keys prior |
| 22:34.01 | Nik05 | cause it is open for everyone that has access to system, there for private key has been compromised |
| 22:34.11 | wpsmith | so delete them? |
| 22:34.13 | _ingsoc | What is the benefit of installing to /usr/local vs. /usr? |
| 22:34.48 | Nik05 | _ingsoc: /usr is for the distribution |
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| 22:35.12 | Nik05 | debian packages will install there |
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| 22:35.56 | _ingsoc | Nik05: I really hope I didn't screw anything up by installing there and then running sudo make uninstall. |
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| 22:37.17 | Nik05 | i hope that too _ingsoc |
| 22:37.26 | Nik05 | otherwise you get things like wpsmith has now :P |
| 22:37.29 | abcdefg_ | When using LXC - does one has to apt-get update / apt-get upgrade / apt-get dist-upgrade each individual lxc container? |
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| 22:37.49 | abcdefg_ | Are packages installed by apt related to a specific lxc container? |
| 22:38.07 | abcdefg_ | When I want to install an apache2 webserver only on lxc container A but a nginx on container B? |
| 22:38.09 | wpsmith | listen to Nik05 |
| 22:38.17 | abcdefg_ | meß |
| 22:38.19 | abcdefg_ | me? |
| 22:38.22 | Nik05 | no dont listen to me |
| 22:38.48 | Nik05 | i have no idea what lxc is |
| 22:38.56 | Nik05 | where are all the experts in this channel? :( |
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| 22:40.00 | Nik05 | well its saturday evening so... |
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| 22:41.31 | Nik05 | wpsmith got it reinstalled? |
| 22:41.41 | Nik05 | or scared at trying? |
| 22:42.04 | wpsmith | Nik05: got it |
| 22:42.06 | wpsmith | it worked |
| 22:42.06 | wpsmith | nice |
| 22:42.25 | Nik05 | oh wait you already did reinstall |
| 22:42.28 | wpsmith | Nik05: back to my original intent...setting up a vhost |
| 22:42.29 | Nik05 | did you make new keys for openssh? |
| 22:42.31 | wpsmith | sigh |
| 22:42.42 | wpsmith | yes |
| 22:43.08 | Nik05 | and what is its file permission? |
| 22:43.20 | wpsmith | 600 |
| 22:43.28 | Nik05 | ok good :P |
| 22:43.47 | Nik05 | But setting up a vhost isnt your priority now... |
| 22:44.01 | Nik05 | what kind of things is apache hosting? |
| 22:44.07 | wpsmith | everything seems to be running as it was |
| 22:44.21 | Nik05 | indeed "seems" |
| 22:44.23 | wpsmith | 2 WP installs, ruby code & python |
| 22:44.42 | Nik05 | important stuff? |
| 22:44.58 | wpsmith | I've backed up everything I know and was working on |
| 22:45.11 | wpsmith | I have to determine what ruby and python to backup from another dev |
| 22:45.18 | Nik05 | also your configuration files? |
| 22:45.19 | wpsmith | once I do that, recommending a wipe |
| 22:45.24 | wpsmith | yes, did that first |
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| 22:46.21 | Nik05 | nice reaction time babi :P |
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| 22:46.52 | Wixy | Hello guys |
| 22:46.57 | Nik05 | hello |
| 22:47.00 | babilen | Nik05: go, get a life young whippersnapper! ;) |
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| 22:47.17 | Nik05 | :) |
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| 22:47.53 | hyppias | trying to copy files from debian machine 1 to machine 2 with scp. I get "connection refused". Putty from win7 to both machines over ssh works. What must I do? |
| 22:47.57 | Nik05 | babilen if you compile stuff and want to install it, always install in /usr/local and not in /usr, right? |
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| 22:48.06 | Wixy | I'm trying to do some test with wireshark and telnet, so I installed telnetd in a server, then restarted it using /etc/init.d/xinetd restart, but it's still not possible to connect to it (telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused) |
| 22:48.08 | Wixy | any idea? |
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| 22:48.33 | Wixy | I even tried telnet 127.0.0.1 from the server, it doesn't work |
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| 22:48.58 | jelly-home | Wixy: the service needs to be enabled in your inetd's configuration |
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| 22:49.18 | Wixy | well, I did that too. is it with "disable = no" ? |
| 22:49.43 | Wixy | I noticed it had "disable = yes" by default, so I changed it to "disable = no"... but it's the same |
| 22:50.04 | jelly-home | I think that's right for xinetd |
| 22:50.12 | Wixy | hmn, weird. I'll check again |
| 22:50.45 | Nik05 | hyppias can you connect from system 1 to system 2 with ssh? |
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| 22:51.00 | Wixy | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
| 22:51.00 | Wixy | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 22:51.11 | hyppias | Nik05: how can i verify that? |
| 22:51.30 | Wixy | cat /etc/xinetd.conf -> defaults { disable = no } includedir /etc/xinetd.d |
| 22:51.30 | Nik05 | ssh to system 1 and then ssh from 1 to 2? |
| 22:53.18 | Wixy | any other idea? |
| 22:53.32 | hyppias | Nik05: I do "ssh 192.168.178.14" and it refuses |
| 22:53.58 | hyppias | something withn certificates ? |
| 22:54.14 | Nik05 | not sure |
| 22:54.21 | Nik05 | on what system are you now? |
| 22:54.40 | ectospasm | hyppias: try running "ssh -vvv 192.168.178.14" |
| 22:54.43 | Nik05 | and you got openssh-server running? |
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| 22:54.49 | jelly-home | Wixy: did you read the output of the installation carefully? Did it say xinetd wasn't fully supported yet? Did you create a service definition file for xinetd using itox? |
| 22:54.58 | hyppias | Nik05: i acces both machines with putty from Win7 |
| 22:55.01 | ectospasm | that will show you all the protocol gobbledegook, including the handshake |
| 22:55.14 | hyppias | ps -aux |
| 22:55.41 | hyppias | sshd |
| 22:55.52 | Nik05 | yes ok so putty works |
| 22:55.58 | hyppias | yep |
| 22:56.05 | Nik05 | hyppias check what ecto says |
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| 22:56.54 | Wixy | jelly-home, read the output: yes, it didn't say anything about not being fully supported and no, I didn't create any service. why would it? I expected it to work out of the box |
| 22:57.11 | Wixy | s/would it/would I/ |
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| 22:58.01 | hyppias | Nik05: that also says connection refused. |
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| 22:58.12 | notjimcarrey | i have a hauppauge hvr-2950, and i can't for the life od me get it to work |
| 22:58.25 | hyppias | ssh_connect: needpriv 0 |
| 22:58.31 | ectospasm | hyppias: what port is sshd listening on? If it's not 22 you have to pass the port to scp with -P <port> |
| 22:58.43 | drumr | how do i install synaptic from a fresh install of debian 6. apt-get says package not found. i commented out the sources for cdrom |
| 22:58.47 | ectospasm | ...and -P <port> CANNOT come at the end of arguments |
| 22:58.54 | hyppias | 22 |
| 22:59.22 | jelly-home | Wixy: xinetd is a bit special. It would have worked out of the box with openbsd-inetd, probably. |
| 22:59.54 | Nik05 | hyppias they are on the same network? |
| 22:59.56 | jelly-home | Wixy: on wheezy, the installation says: Note: xinetd currently is not fully supported by update-inetd. Please consult /usr/share/doc/xinetd/README.Debian and itox(8). |
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| 23:00.01 | hyppias | yep |
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| 23:00.12 | Nik05 | making any mistakes in ip? |
| 23:00.16 | Wixy | is installing openbsd-inetd |
| 23:00.43 | jelly-home | Wixy: the result of itox would look something like http://paste.debian.net/234774/ |
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| 23:01.58 | hyppias | nope |
| 23:01.59 | ectospasm | hyppias: so ssh works to the destination, but scp does not? |
| 23:02.10 | Nik05 | no ssh doesnt work either |
| 23:02.31 | ectospasm | wait, are you trying to run scp from the Win7 box and transfer from Debian1 and Debian2? |
| 23:02.39 | ectospasm | s/and/to/ |
| 23:02.39 | hyppias | only from the third machine: Win7 with putty |
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| 23:02.54 | hyppias | maybe both machines must know hostnames? |
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| 23:03.05 | hyppias | eachothers hostname, that is? |
| 23:03.08 | ectospasm | hyppias: so you have an ssh/PuTTY connection from Win7 to one of the machines (the source machine) |
| 23:03.12 | Wixy | same for openbsd-inetd |
| 23:03.23 | hyppias | to BOTH machines, from Win7 |
| 23:03.36 | Wixy | I can't believe I have to edit a file to make it work because there's no telnet server in debian that works out of the box..... |
| 23:04.07 | ectospasm | hyppias: then the Win7 must have both hostnames in DNS or lmhosts (or whatever it's called in Win7) |
| 23:04.08 | hyppias | but not from A to B vv. |
| 23:04.09 | Nik05 | hyppias use putty to connect to one of the systems, then use scp of sftp to get file from other system |
| 23:04.50 | ectospasm | hyppias: if you're getting connection refused then your getting to something... can you ssh into either target machine from PuTTY? |
| 23:04.54 | hyppias | Nik05: that is what I try: the putty's are both working now |
| 23:04.57 | ectospasm | I feel like we've asked this question before. |
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| 23:05.20 | hyppias | from win7 to A and from Win7 to B goes OK, but not from A to B |
| 23:05.56 | Nik05 | can you ping B from A? |
| 23:06.07 | Nik05 | and vice versa? |
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| 23:06.40 | hyppias | yep |
| 23:06.55 | ectospasm | from A to B does it give connection refused? |
| 23:07.04 | hyppias | yes |
| 23:07.11 | ectospasm | that is odd |
| 23:07.55 | Nik05 | router that is dropping packages? |
| 23:07.58 | hyppias | maybe A and B don't know enough about eachother? |
| 23:08.01 | ectospasm | if you can connect to sshd on B from Win7/PuTTY with the standard port, and whatever username, A should be able to use the same IP/hostname:port and user credentials to connect |
| 23:08.07 | jelly-home | Wixy: I can't believe you're using telnetd at all! |
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| 23:08.24 | ectospasm | hyppias: I doubt it, you'd get host unreachable or something, unable to resolve DNS |
| 23:08.34 | Wixy | jelly-home, as I said, it was to check something on wireshark |
| 23:08.45 | hyppias | something with cert's? |
| 23:08.57 | ectospasm | hyppias: it would not say connection refused |
| 23:09.17 | ectospasm | connection refused means nothing is listening on that port (and iptables isn't filtering it out) |
| 23:09.24 | Nik05 | right |
| 23:10.07 | Nik05 | so its possible B blocks A |
| 23:10.08 | ectospasm | ...unless iptables is somehow configured to only allow SSH connections on 22 from the Win7 machine, and send RST to all other connections |
| 23:10.26 | ectospasm | but that'd be very strange (and I'd be surprised you didn't remember you did that). |
| 23:10.45 | brokencycle | Hi! |
| 23:10.49 | pelle2 | can someone guide me a little regarding permissions on a network mounted CIFS share? |
| 23:11.10 | brokencycle | I have created a number of VMs using virt-manager, but would now like to manage them with virsh |
| 23:11.21 | brokencycle | but when I say "virsh list", the list comes up empty. |
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| 23:13.25 | ectospasm | if you DO have iptables rules enabled, you might want to temporarily flush them to see if you can get connected << hyppias |
| 23:13.45 | Nik05 | hyppias do you have something like fail2ban? |
| 23:13.54 | misspwn | I'm trying to get my bcm4312 wireless card working and have tried about 10 different threads -- all the suggestions point to packages that are no longer in the repos |
| 23:13.57 | misspwn | any suggestions? |
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| 23:14.17 | misspwn | tried b43-fwcutter |
| 23:14.23 | misspwn | couldnt install broadcom-sta |
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| 23:14.51 | misspwn | lspci sees the card, but i cant find a driver that actually works with it |
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| 23:17.43 | ectospasm | Nik05: will fail2ban block connections with a RST? |
| 23:17.47 | ectospasm | I suppose it would |
| 23:17.51 | Nik05 | misspwn: read this wiki.debian.org/wl ? |
| 23:17.55 | misspwn | i did |
| 23:18.01 | misspwn | it says to use broadcom-sta |
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| 23:18.32 | Aiox | is there no one at #debianppc? T^T |
| 23:18.37 | misspwn | when i do this portion: m-a a-i broadcom-sta |
| 23:18.44 | Nik05 | ectospasm what is RST? |
| 23:18.44 | misspwn | it says "broadcom-sta, what is broadcom-sta?" |
| 23:19.06 | ectospasm | Nik05: a RESET packet, or a packet with just the RST flag set |
| 23:19.14 | misspwn | it literally says that, making it the worst error message in history. |
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| 23:19.56 | misspwn | |DM|: hey dickmaster |
| 23:19.59 | ectospasm | Nik05: (see your favorite TCP/IP reference, RST is one of the six TCP flag bits in the TCP frame header) |
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| 23:20.14 | |DM| | yes misspwn ? |
| 23:20.20 | Nik05 | ectospasm i have no idea :P |
| 23:20.23 | misspwn | long time no see |DM| |
| 23:20.36 | |DM| | And I know you under the name .... :P |
| 23:20.46 | misspwn | nixchix0r? |
| 23:20.46 | |DM| | peopel change their nicks way too often. |
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| 23:21.14 | |DM| | doesn't ring a bell, been too long |
| 23:21.22 | |DM| | EIther way, nice to see you |
| 23:21.28 | misspwn | rude, help me with my wireless please |
| 23:21.43 | Nik05 | ectospasm cant he look inside iptables if system a or b is in it? |
| 23:21.52 | |DM| | I'm sorry for being rude. Just being honest. |
| 23:21.56 | |DM| | What's wrong with your wireless? |
| 23:22.07 | ectospasm | Nik05: hyppias: yes, check "iptables --list" |
| 23:22.34 | misspwn | TLDR: broadcom4312 can't install on the latest debian squeeze |
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| 23:23.31 | ectospasm | also see iptables-save, iptables-restore, and iptables --flush << hyppias, Nik05 |
| 23:23.41 | ectospasm | I'm no iptables expert though |
| 23:24.00 | ectospasm | I don't think I could write a rule off the top of my head to save my life |
| 23:24.10 | ectospasm | I use fwbuilder for that. |
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| 23:24.46 | geggam | tcpwrappers ? |
| 23:24.56 | geggam | iptables are simple |
| 23:25.32 | Nik05 | but hyppias is gone? |
| 23:25.56 | ectospasm | geggam: I'm not saying they aren't, just I never learned to do it from the command line. Never had a need. |
| 23:26.20 | geggam | understood ... wasnt trying to imply anything ... was offering to assist |
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| 23:26.31 | geggam | but the wife says i must leave now |
| 23:26.36 | Nik05 | haha |
| 23:26.39 | geggam | -_- |
| 23:26.41 | Nik05 | good luck |
| 23:26.49 | peterrooney | Aiox: your impatience is showing |
| 23:27.15 | hyppias | think it is something with IP addresses: I make them both static so I am sure about them. |
| 23:27.28 | ectospasm | hyppias: that would do it, trying to connect to the wrong host |
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| 23:28.58 | Nik05 | so we almost solved everything? :P |
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| 23:34.32 | Nik05 | looks that way... :( everyone is in the bar |
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| 23:38.15 | misspwn | Nik05: do you have any suggestions? because i'm about to give up due to inability to find anything in threats that actually work now. |
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| 23:38.39 | Nik05 | get an ethernet cable? hP |
| 23:38.49 | misspwn | it's a laptop! |
| 23:38.59 | misspwn | it's plugged in with an ethernet cable right now |
| 23:39.01 | Nik05 | :P sorry i have no dea :) |
| 23:39.20 | misspwn | gentoo it is then |
| 23:39.22 | misspwn | thanks guize |
| 23:39.24 | ectospasm | misspwn: try wheezy |
| 23:39.45 | ectospasm | I know that Broadcom is abysmal with their Linux support |
| 23:39.53 | misspwn | yeah but that's like not stable at all |
| 23:40.12 | ectospasm | misspwn: and you think Gentoo will me *MORE* stable? Gimme a break! |
| 23:40.20 | Nik05 | its being released in a few months |
| 23:40.27 | ectospasm | misspwn: wheezy is frozen, and mostly stable. |
| 23:40.34 | Grizul | For what is worth, b43 works fine here albeit cursed with the need of the non-free firmware. |
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| 23:40.45 | ectospasm | Grizul: in squeeze or wheezy? |
| 23:40.50 | Grizul | Wheezy. |
| 23:40.54 | misspwn | dohoho ectospasm i'm not going to seriously install that right now. but yeah. Grizul in squeeze it was giving me issues |
| 23:41.26 | ectospasm | wheezy is the way to go IMO unless you need a rock solid server OS. |
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| 23:42.00 | wsky | why not sid? |
| 23:42.17 | Nik05 | cause thats unstable |
| 23:42.35 | wsky | i havent had any issues with it since month |
| 23:42.37 | wsky | months |
| 23:42.50 | Nik05 | me neither :P |
| 23:42.52 | ectospasm | wsky: that's because it's slushy |
| 23:43.08 | ectospasm | I'm bracing for impact when it liquifies again. |
| 23:43.11 | Nik05 | last thing that broke my system was libcairo... |
| 23:43.54 | Grizul | Well, libcairo2 was broken in testing for a while too... |
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| 23:44.47 | ectospasm | heh, I ran into my first issue with sid when I saw an update removed nvidia-glx. When I said,"Oh, I'll just add it back," I was in the habit of passing -y to aptitude. That command proceeded to uninstall practically ALL X-related packages. |
| 23:44.57 | wsky | ectospasm: whatever that means |
| 23:45.04 | Nik05 | haha |
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| 23:45.21 | ectospasm | wsky: which part don't you understand? |
| 23:45.44 | wsky | well, how an operating system can be slushy |
| 23:46.02 | ectospasm | !slushy |
| 23:46.02 | dpkg | When a <testing> release becomes frozen, <unstable> tends to partially freeze as well. This is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable, in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates and to fix release critical bugs which keep testing from becoming <stable>. |
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| 23:46.51 | Grizul | Translation: no XFCE 4.10 for you. |
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| 23:46.55 | ctmjr | ectospasm: welcome to to the joy's of sid |
| 23:46.55 | Grizul | :P |
| 23:47.15 | Nik05 | grizul isnt it in experimental? |
| 23:47.21 | ectospasm | ctmjr: yep. I'm prepared this time (I hope) |
| 23:47.33 | ectospasm | ctmjr: and I definitely do NOT run with -y anymore |
| 23:47.49 | ectospasm | I always inspect the package list that's being installed/removed |
| 23:48.10 | Nik05 | isnt that what everyone is suppose to do? |
| 23:48.18 | wsky | u so shart i r not |
| 23:48.25 | wsky | brb, gotta smoke |
| 23:48.37 | Grizul | Nik05: indeed, it is, thanks. |
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| 23:48.51 | ectospasm | Nik05: -y assumes you mean *YES* to all questions. |
| 23:49.02 | Nik05 | i know ecto |
| 23:49.29 | Nik05 | so dont do that :) |
| 23:49.46 | ectospasm | Nik05: I guess I'm saying I learned the hard way. |
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| 23:54.27 | AFlyingMonkey | But its so easy just to use -y ... |
| 23:55.37 | Nik05 | or just press y and enter when you read everything :P |
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| 23:59.08 | Roenie | how long can i stay in "testing"? once testing is frozen and then becomes stable, can i just change my aptitude sources.lst to the next "texting" and keep going like that every time? |
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| 23:59.21 | Roenie | *testing |
| 23:59.49 | Roenie | essentially turning it into almost a rolling release? |