| 00:00.02 | peterrooney | dpkg: sid |
| 00:00.02 | dpkg | The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
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| 00:00.18 | technologov | ha ha ! :) |
| 00:00.19 | peterrooney | IIRC, sid is discussed in #debian-next, but don't quote me on that |
| 00:00.31 | imdoingitwrong | I can't join that channel, just tried it ;) |
| 00:00.52 | imdoingitwrong | well, I just went "hooah" and upgraded to sid, just to see how it would break on me |
| 00:01.33 | Natureshadow | imdoingitwrong, striving for adventure or too much of your favourite drinks ;) ? |
| 00:01.46 | imdoingitwrong | I use lxde, and it all seemed to work fine (went from stable to testing, and from testing to sid) |
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| 00:02.15 | imdoingitwrong | Natureshadow: a little bit of both I thing ...can't remember |
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| 00:02.59 | imdoingitwrong | Natureshadow: let's just say my buddies told me "hey man, you went totally insane last night! installed sid and all!" |
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| 00:03.39 | imdoingitwrong | my problem is, after running a couple of gui apps something goes wrong and no gui app will run |
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| 00:04.21 | imdoingitwrong | running let's say lxterminal will result in "cant open display :0.0" |
| 00:04.36 | imdoingitwrong | or "cannot" or "unable", depending on application ^^ |
| 00:04.47 | Natureshadow | imdoingitwrong, running from where? |
| 00:04.52 | forgotten | is there an apt way to install flash player 11 ? |
| 00:04.52 | imdoingitwrong | I thought it could be something with xhost, but running it will give me the same thing |
| 00:05.29 | imdoingitwrong | Natureshadow: well... from terminal, logged in as a user |
| 00:05.48 | Natureshadow | imdoingitwrong, tty1 or something? with X-Server running? |
| 00:05.49 | babilen | imdoingitwrong: The channel is on irc.oftc.net/irc.debian.org |
| 00:06.12 | babilen | !tell forgotten -about adobe flash |
| 00:06.42 | imdoingitwrong | Natureshadow: running it from menu or desktop icon will give me no output, so I tried from terminal - as in opened lxterminal window with running bash |
| 00:07.02 | imdoingitwrong | babilen: I tried it already, irssi says I have to be invited to join it |
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| 00:07.29 | babilen | imdoingitwrong: In that case you tried to join it here on freenode, not on OFTC (irc.oftc.net) |
| 00:07.38 | imdoingitwrong | I really don't expect you to solve it for me, I'm just curious as to what exactly could go wrong, but if I won't find a fix, I'll just install stable and stay with it ; |
| 00:08.29 | Natureshadow | imdoingitwrong, so you can run X and LXDE, open up a terminal, but from within it you cannot start another GUI applicaiton? |
| 00:08.52 | imdoingitwrong | babilen: ah, wait, it seems it's the one on freenode that I can't join, my bad |
| 00:09.38 | imdoingitwrong | Natureshadow: that's pretty much it. I can't recall atm if I ran the browser first or after running the terminal... |
| 00:10.27 | Natureshadow | The question is, is $DISPLAY set to :0.0 correctly and is your dispaly really there? |
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| 00:10.59 | jelly1 | hmm why cant my default user use crontab |
| 00:11.04 | jelly1 | /tmp/crontab.MSrXom: Permission denied |
| 00:11.17 | jelly1 | hmm /tmp/ permissions aren't right |
| 00:12.01 | Natureshadow | jelly1, is your suer in crontab group? |
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| 00:12.10 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: i just added myself |
| 00:12.14 | Natureshadow | Only users in the crontab group are allowed to use crontab -e |
| 00:12.19 | jelly1 | uid=1000(jelle) gid=1000(jelle) groups=1000(jelle),27(sudo),102(crontab) |
| 00:12.30 | Natureshadow | jelly1, did you re-login? |
| 00:12.35 | imdoingitwrong | Natureshadow: well, $DISPLAY is ":0.0", and I don't quite understand what you mean by if it's there. |
| 00:12.50 | Natureshadow | imdoingitwrong, that means, is that really where X listens for connections |
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| 00:13.06 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: well, reconnecting ssh is relogging in right |
| 00:13.26 | jelly1 | drwxr-xr-x 2 1026 users 4.0K Jan 3 23:05 tmp |
| 00:13.27 | jelly1 | btw |
| 00:13.28 | Natureshadow | jelly1, sure enough. but I just see that you'd get another error if that was the mistake ;) |
| 00:13.50 | Natureshadow | jelly1, what kind of permissions are *that* on /tmp? |
| 00:14.08 | Natureshadow | shouldn't that be owned by root:root and set to 1777 ? |
| 00:14.13 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: indeed |
| 00:14.27 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: this is confusing |
| 00:14.38 | jelly1 | i am having a debian chroot on a synology nas |
| 00:14.59 | Natureshadow | funny thing the user that owns it doesn't exist (or is named 1026, fwiw ...) |
| 00:15.00 | nas | jelly, why you telling me that? |
| 00:15.16 | nas | jelly1, |
| 00:15.18 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: hrrrm |
| 00:15.28 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: i suspect i know the problem rawr |
| 00:16.06 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: chmodding and chwonning works |
| 00:16.07 | Natureshadow | nas, I think he meant "on a \"synology nas\"" :D |
| 00:16.13 | jelly1 | i do |
| 00:16.26 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: that sucky nas though, it checks permissions on boot |
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| 00:16.40 | jelly1 | so changes it to my user at the synology device |
| 00:16.45 | jelly1 | uid=1026(jelle) gid=100(users) groups=100(users) |
| 00:16.54 | jelly1 | so that explains permissions problem |
| 00:16.56 | jelly1 | ugh |
| 00:16.57 | nas | lol i just kidding |
| 00:17.04 | Natureshadow | jelly1, no way of preventing it from doing so? |
| 00:17.13 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: i need to research that |
| 00:17.15 | jelly1 | since that sucks :P |
| 00:17.51 | jelly1 | i love the debian chroot atm, i can safely extend my machine and not ruin the device |
| 00:18.28 | Natureshadow | jelly1, I'd always mount my chroot from a loop device *after* boot on such devices that do as they please with my files |
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| 00:18.40 | jelly1 | hmm |
| 00:18.51 | jelly1 | from a loop device? like iso |
| 00:19.05 | Natureshadow | as in, a loop device ;) |
| 00:19.27 | jelly1 | hmm so convert chroot to loop device interesting |
| 00:19.38 | Natureshadow | and yes, like ISO. Minus the wirte-protection ;) |
| 00:19.44 | jelly1 | hmm |
| 00:19.47 | jelly1 | interesting |
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| 00:20.09 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: ok |
| 00:20.34 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: time to find out how that works :) |
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| 00:20.57 | Natureshadow | dd if=/dev/zero of=/debian.img bsize=1M count=10240 && mkfs.ext2 -j /debian.img && mount -o loop /debian.img /mnt && debootstrap /mnt && chroot /mnt ;) |
| 00:21.10 | Natureshadow | s/bsize/bs/ |
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| 00:22.23 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: first test if the NAS can mount loop devices |
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| 00:23.54 | jelly1 | Natureshadow: good idea thanks! |
| 00:24.51 | itchi | Hi all |
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| 00:25.46 | itchi | Does anyone know how to get that Optimus (two gfx cards (Intel & Nvidia) working with Debian? |
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| 00:42.28 | imdoingitwrong | about that sid problem with X, I think it may have something to do with my hostname |
| 00:42.58 | imdoingitwrong | when I upgraded to sid, I found my hostname changed to "new-host" |
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| 00:43.33 | imdoingitwrong | even though my /etc/hostname is "advent", it still is new-host on reboot, so something else is changing it |
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| 00:43.58 | streuner__ | impossible, upgrade doesnt change your hostname |
| 00:44.19 | imdoingitwrong | well, it did |
| 00:44.59 | imdoingitwrong | and it's not the first time either, since I saw a topic about it in debian mailing list I thing, unresolved |
| 00:46.21 | dondelelcaro | imdoingitwrong: the hostname shouldn't change. what does hostname; report? |
| 00:46.32 | imdoingitwrong | well, I just saw "cant connect to :0.0" when I had the "new-host" hostname as root, changed it, closed the terminal, ran it again and now I can run things normally again, strange |
| 00:46.51 | imdoingitwrong | well it reports "advent" now, since I manually changed it |
| 00:46.58 | imdoingitwrong | but before that it was "new-host" |
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| 00:47.13 | imdoingitwrong | even though /etc/hostname is unchanged, and is still "advent" |
| 00:48.35 | dondelelcaro | it's possible that something called /bin/hostname new-host; instead of just /bin/hostname, but that's kind of odd |
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| 00:50.19 | streuner | imdoingitwrong: do you have a link for us about? |
| 00:50.38 | dondelelcaro | streuner: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/10/msg01262.html |
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| 00:51.13 | dondelelcaro | imdoingitwrong: anyway, if you reboot, and it returns to new-host, you'll have to tell us precisely what you're running |
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| 00:54.38 | imdoingitwrong | streuner: well, I had to do a bit of digging trough my history... but there's a mention of it here: http://osdir.com/ml/debian-user-debian/2011-10/msg01230.html |
| 00:54.39 | dondelelcaro | imdoingitwrong: a file like the following in /etc/rcS.d/ running after mountall will tell you what is doing it if you can't figure it out: #!/bin/bashsh\n( (while sleep 0.5s; do date -s; hostname; ps axfu; ) > /tmp/hostnametracker & )\n |
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| 00:55.06 | dondelelcaro | imdoingitwrong: though you'll have to kill off that command later on in boot manually |
| 00:56.08 | streuner | imdoingitwrong: hm, its the same dondelelcaro gave me |
| 00:56.51 | imdoingitwrong | oh, surprise surprise, I just upgraded a second machine just for kicks, and well, to see if it would change the hostname... it did - "new-host" |
| 00:57.22 | dondelelcaro | imdoingitwrong: precisely what set of packages did you upgrade? |
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| 00:58.17 | imdoingitwrong | this one though I upgraded from stable to sid ^^ - what set? well... I did a full-upgrade |
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| 00:59.52 | imdoingitwrong | dondelelcaro: I'll try the hostname tracker |
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| 01:00.32 | dondelelcaro | imdoingitwrong: the log files will tell you precisely what packages were upgraded |
| 01:00.41 | streuner | dpkg, hostname |
| 01:00.41 | dpkg | Use "hostname foo" to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create /etc/hostname if it does not exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname', /etc/mailname. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname |
| 01:00.58 | dondelelcaro | imdoingitwrong: and if you're upgrading to sid, you should be able to look through the postinst and preinst files for the installs to see what is calling hostname, and what is probably doing it wrongly |
| 01:01.08 | streuner | it shouldnt be that hard to rename, if you dont run a production server... |
| 01:01.53 | dondelelcaro | streuner: yeah, but nothing should be changing it like that |
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| 01:02.01 | dondelelcaro | with the possible exception of dhcp |
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| 01:07.49 | koobs | hi, whats the difference (when selecting kernel to install between linux-image 2.6-amd64 and 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 01:08.30 | streuner | koobs: linux-image-26.amd64 is a meta-package |
| 01:09.00 | streuner | koobs, it installs the latest package for your branch available |
| 01:09.11 | koobs | ta, so why the choice if one installs the other ? |
| 01:09.13 | dudz_ | read up on the package details for each of them and compare them yourself, |
| 01:09.17 | koobs | will the meta track updates through 2.6 |
| 01:09.21 | koobs | where the 2.6.32-5 option wont ? |
| 01:10.26 | streuner | well, 2.6.32-5 install 2.6.32-5... |
| 01:10.40 | streuner | if its available |
| 01:11.23 | streuner | but in general, you want 26.amd64, whatever it calls |
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| 01:13.12 | koobs | streuner; so 2.6-amd64 will track 2.6.x ? whereas installing 2.6.32-5 will keep it pinned? |
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| 01:13.51 | streuner | koobs: the meta-package installs newer versions then |
| 01:13.58 | streuner | if needed |
| 01:14.20 | streuner | koobs: just use it |
| 01:14.35 | koobs | only at time of installation, or through the lifetime of the installation as far as kernel image updates go ? |
| 01:14.44 | koobs | id prefer to understand it :) |
| 01:14.51 | koobs | i presume its a choice for a reason |
| 01:15.01 | streuner | koobs: once you have the meta-package installed, its used then... |
| 01:15.42 | koobs | apologies, im not quite sure i understand you |
| 01:16.32 | streuner | (every time you using (distr)-upgrade, the new(er) kernel would be installed) |
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| 01:17.20 | koobs | and just to clarify, thats if the META package is installed (ie; 2.6-am64, NOT 2.6.32-5.-amd64)? |
| 01:17.55 | streuner | 2.6.32-5-amd64 is not a meta-package |
| 01:18.02 | koobs | yes i know, thats what im saying |
| 01:18.10 | koobs | 2.6-amd64 is, 2.6.32-5 is NOT |
| 01:18.13 | koobs | correct? |
| 01:18.42 | streuner | 2.6-amd64 sounds ok for me |
| 01:18.54 | streuner | as meta-package |
| 01:18.59 | koobs | what do you mean by 'ok' ? |
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| 01:20.21 | streuner | ii linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32+29 Linux 2.6 for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) |
| 01:20.39 | streuner | to be correct :-P |
| 01:21.26 | koobs | streuner; yah, i understand that one is a meta package, which points to the latest. what im asking is, if i install 2.6.32-5, DIRECTLY from the installer, then a dist-upgrade will NOT update the kernel, correct? |
| 01:21.39 | koobs | unless i replace it |
| 01:21.44 | koobs | or is that not correct |
| 01:22.23 | babilen | koobs: Your statement about which is a metapackage is correct. I would personally install linux-image-amd64 as it will upgrade your kernel to 3.* as well. |
| 01:22.42 | babilen | koobs: (also the implications) |
| 01:23.24 | streuner | koobs: if you running stable, 2.6.32 is the latest, unless you are not using backports |
| 01:23.27 | babilen | ,depends linux-image-amd64 --arch amd64 |
| 01:23.27 | judd | Package linux-image-amd64 in squeeze/amd64 -- depends: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64. |
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| 01:24.26 | koobs | caveats aside, talking strictly about the options given by the installer (not in the case of backports) |
| 01:24.35 | streuner | koobs: please tell us why you want using another kernel, other than in stable/squeeze, maybe we unterstand you better... |
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| 01:26.11 | babilen | koobs: It doesn't really matter what you choose right now as you will end up with linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 after the installation in every case. This is only important once the dependencies of the linux-image{-2.6-,}-amd64 metapackages change as would happen when you upgrade to wheezy. -2.6-amd64 will, however, stay with a 2.6 kernel in this case. |
| 01:26.12 | koobs | perhaps im not not clear, so let me be explicit, the 6.0.3-amd64 installer from the official CD ISO, gives me TWO options when installing the kernel image, one is 2.6-amd64, the other is 2.6.32-5-amd4. I would like to know, given that it is an OPTION, what the effective difference IS to the installed system state, if any |
| 01:26.42 | koobs | babilen; right :) |
| 01:27.04 | koobs | babilen; so 2.6 the meta package tracks differently than the other one |
| 01:27.05 | koobs | ? |
| 01:27.10 | babilen | koobs: You are not offered the linux-image-amd64 metapackage? |
| 01:27.30 | koobs | nope |
| 01:27.38 | koobs | one tick, ill be verbatim. |
| 01:28.13 | babilen | ,depends linux-image-2.6-amd64 --arch amd64 --release sid |
| 01:28.14 | judd | Package linux-image-2.6-amd64 in sid/amd64 -- depends: linux-image-amd64. |
| 01:28.53 | babilen | ,depends linux-image-amd64 --arch amd64 --release sid |
| 01:28.54 | judd | Package linux-image-amd64 in sid/amd64 -- depends: linux-image-3.1.0-1-amd64. |
| 01:29.05 | koobs | wow i managed to break vbox. |
| 01:30.02 | babilen | koobs: Is it clear now? If squeeze's installer does not offer linux-image-amd64 right now (really? I though it does) I would install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64, then install linux-image-amd64 after the initial installation and set linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 to be automatically installed. |
| 01:30.25 | koobs | im going to confirm that, one tick 'loading componenents' |
| 01:32.21 | streuner | babilen: it does, the d-i stable installer installs auto the meta-package, for sure ;-) |
| 01:32.39 | streuner | ii linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32+29 Linux 2.6 for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) |
| 01:33.09 | koobs | right |
| 01:33.19 | koobs | so, option one linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 01:33.30 | koobs | option 2, linux-image-.2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 01:33.32 | koobs | option 3, none |
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| 01:33.51 | babilen | streuner: I am referring to linux-image-amd64 not linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
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| 01:34.00 | koobs | no linux-image-amd64 without the 2.6 |
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| 01:34.14 | koobs | babilen; i thought thats what you meant, which is why i was adamant |
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| 01:35.11 | streuner | babilen: there is a difference, hell :-) |
| 01:35.30 | koobs | babilen; im not actually looking for 'what should i do' kind of help, just wanted to understand the 'difference' between the options in terms of the target state |
| 01:35.43 | babilen | koobs: Ok, I told you what I would do -- it doesn't really make much of a difference right now, but becomes important once you upgrade. -- As I've demonstrated earlier: The linux-image-2.6-amd64 depends on linux-image-amd64 in wheezy/sid and the upgrade will also be smooth when you upgrade with that. |
| 01:36.08 | koobs | so, the difference is how the package tracks over time? |
| 01:36.40 | koobs | can you given an example of how each could differ in a particular circumstance/pointintime? |
| 01:36.50 | babilen | koobs: Exactly -- If you don't have a metapackage installed, but only the actual kernel package (i.e. linux-image-2.6-amd64) the kernel will *not* be upgraded. |
| 01:37.01 | babilen | argh |
| 01:37.10 | streuner | well, we told you before |
| 01:37.10 | koobs | hehe, i know what you meant :) |
| 01:37.15 | babilen | linux-image-2.6.32.5 that is :) |
| 01:37.19 | koobs | you did a typo in there |
| 01:37.22 | koobs | yup, that shows you i understand |
| 01:37.23 | babilen | yes |
| 01:37.46 | koobs | SO, 'effectively' installing the 2.6.32-5 kernel image, it will effectively be pinned. |
| 01:37.52 | koobs | unless i replace it with something else |
| 01:38.24 | koobs | versus the 2.6-amd64 one, which will track changes through upgrades (and smoother means no/less incompatibilities between dependencies after upgrades with an older kernel image) |
| 01:38.34 | koobs | see, easy. |
| 01:38.40 | koobs | i will install the meta then. |
| 01:38.42 | babilen | koobs: Well, not really. You get upgrades for *that* package (hence the +29) but the kernel release (2.6.32) will stay the same. |
| 01:38.49 | koobs | yeh, i understand :) |
| 01:38.54 | babilen | \o/ |
| 01:38.55 | koobs | branchy mcbranch branch |
| 01:38.55 | streuner | omg |
| 01:39.00 | koobs | minor point release thingo, security only |
| 01:39.07 | streuner | true |
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| 01:39.28 | babilen | koobs: Debian also backports certain features from older releases, so it is even more complicated, but meh ;) |
| 01:39.35 | koobs | streuner; being expressive and clear in support is an artform, as much as asking the right questions is important |
| 01:39.50 | babilen | +1 |
| 01:39.53 | koobs | babilen; yah im aware, i was trying to get a very specific answer, not general help :] |
| 01:40.00 | technologov | babilen, which features ? (AFAIK only few NIC drivers) |
| 01:40.02 | mangas | hi, anyone knows if debian will be moving from sysvinit to systemd? |
| 01:40.14 | babilen | technologov: Exactly |
| 01:40.16 | technologov | (in updates, not in backports) |
| 01:40.23 | koobs | i tend not to ask 'what should i do' questions (or provide what you should do answers, unless asked for it) |
| 01:41.01 | technologov | mangas, prolly not; Debian supports both Linux and kFreeBSD kernels, so moving is in stop... |
| 01:41.12 | streuner | koobs: well, i would like to see you when you support Debian here :-) |
| 01:41.34 | koobs | technologov; how 'mature' would you characterise the kFreeBSD variant? (intuitive feeling i mean, not absolute numbers) |
| 01:41.43 | mangas | ok technologov thanks |
| 01:41.49 | koobs | streuner; most of my time is taken up supporting #freebsd :] |
| 01:41.56 | technologov | I don't use it - so I don't characterize. |
| 01:41.58 | streuner | lol |
| 01:42.00 | koobs | streuner; but ill always help out where i can |
| 01:42.35 | koobs | i helped someone with their /apt/sources.list stuff yesterday ;D |
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| 01:43.06 | streuner | koobs: that makes sense then |
| 01:43.09 | babilen | mangas: There was a loong thread about this on debian-devel -- But no definite decision yet IIRC (*really* long) |
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| 01:43.48 | koobs | streuner; no point pretending i can help people with things im not confident in (unlike #ubuntu where you get 12 million incomplete/irrelevent answers for the one question) |
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| 01:44.07 | mangas | babilen, ok thanks |
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| 01:45.10 | babilen | mangas: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/07/msg00269.html -- non-linux kernels are indeed the major problem, but that might be eased by a system to automatically generate init scripts. |
| 01:46.16 | koobs | or just use rcng in freebsd o_O |
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| 01:51.55 | babilen | koobs: Wouldn't that still mean that multiple init scripts have to be maintained in parallel? |
| 01:52.48 | koobs | babilen; you need to not take my friendly trolling seriously ;) |
| 01:53.20 | streuner | How is trolling friendly? :-) |
| 01:53.21 | koobs | everything that is an evolution of sysv is trying to get away from the same issues |
| 01:53.31 | koobs | streuner; when i have a smile on my face and its expected ;) |
| 01:53.55 | koobs | i shall come up with a new word for it |
| 01:54.01 | koobs | gentle ribbing? :] |
| 01:54.58 | babilen | koobs: Our main problem is that we don't want to maintain multiple scripts in parallel (sysv, systemd, upstart, ...) -- I wouldn't mind friendly input. I also take people seriously. |
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| 01:55.36 | koobs | babilen; sure, and the diversity of options is a blessing as well as a curse, whats common between debian and freebsd is convervative minimalism though, which is handy |
| 01:55.56 | koobs | conservative rather |
| 01:57.00 | koobs | i agree with your desire strongly though, which necessarily means planning, feasibility analysis and then thorough implementation, otherwise any system is destined to be a half baked implementation that satisfies nobody |
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| 02:01.06 | koobs | hmm, i didnt allow root logins and created an unprivileged user (installer options) - how do i su up to root (is there a default password?) |
| 02:01.27 | nvz | koobs: sudo su |
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| 02:01.47 | nvz | koobs: password would be the user password |
| 02:01.54 | yamahaalex37 | i installed debian and ssh-server on a box |
| 02:01.54 | koobs | oh, sudo comes with base. |
| 02:01.56 | yamahaalex37 | now im on mylaptop |
| 02:02.03 | yamahaalex37 | can i SSH to user@ip on the debian box |
| 02:02.04 | koobs | apologies, im useto minimalism :] |
| 02:02.10 | yamahaalex37 | its giving me connection refused |
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| 02:02.32 | technologov | check firewalls |
| 02:02.51 | technologov | (both in Debian, and any other...) |
| 02:03.03 | koobs | yamahaalex37; and make sure ssh is listening on 22 (netstat -an |grep 22) |
| 02:03.05 | technologov | try to connect localhost |
| 02:03.09 | babilen | koobs: If you don't allow root logins, sudo is installed. (How else would it work) and you can acquire superuser priviliges with "sudo -i" |
| 02:03.26 | koobs | babilen; empty pass :] |
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| 02:03.51 | babilen | koobs: Seriously? |
| 02:04.05 | Null_ | su - |
| 02:04.05 | yamahaalex37 | koobs, that netstat command showed me a big table |
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| 02:04.07 | koobs | babilen; when its a local machine, whats the difference? |
| 02:04.12 | yamahaalex37 | was it supposed to change something |
| 02:04.13 | koobs | yamahaalex37 |grep 22 |
| 02:04.47 | nvz | Null_: su requires the user account to be active and have a password set |
| 02:04.52 | babilen | koobs: I see what you mean, but I strongly object to making it the default. Anyway .. |
| 02:04.52 | koobs | babilen; and in the case where root login is allowed (which is an issue in and of itself, actually) - is there a default pass ? |
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| 02:05.10 | Null_ | jumped in without reading I guess, thought he had an account already. sorry! |
| 02:05.10 | babilen | koobs: No, you set the root password during the installation. |
| 02:05.16 | yamahaalex37 | koobs, |grep 2 = syntax error unexpected token | |
| 02:05.24 | mrbnet | How can I print the full command that was run for a process? The command runs off the screen with ps -x. |
| 02:05.32 | koobs | babilen; i could have sworn my first debian install didnt ask me, or i didnt run the 'component' |
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| 02:05.50 | koobs | mm, anyway :) |
| 02:05.51 | Null_ | mrbnet: ps auxwww (the w's wrap it) |
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| 02:06.18 | koobs | base is 146 packages, not too shabs. |
| 02:06.22 | yamahaalex37 | wtf i dont understand this command netstat -an |grep 22, i type that all in one line? |
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| 02:06.41 | babilen | mrbnet: Look in top/htop or investigate /proc/$PID/cmdline |
| 02:07.05 | koobs | yamahaalex37; on your debian box, not your client |
| 02:07.06 | nvz | wanders off since bablien is typing faster right now |
| 02:07.24 | mrbnet | Null_: Thx! ps -xwww took got me the info I needed |
| 02:07.25 | babilen | heh |
| 02:07.42 | jordanm | babilen: mrbnet: cmdline has a byte-size limitation, so it won't work for very long commands |
| 02:08.17 | Null_ | its decently big for newish kernels I believe |
| 02:08.36 | streuner | nvz, even bablien has to go into bed, so no worries :-) |
| 02:09.24 | streuner | its late, and UK too :-) |
| 02:09.32 | nvz | streuner: heh, well I'm a bit sleepy myself though I don't "have to" go to bed.. in fact thats not really an option. |
| 02:09.55 | babilen | streuner: â #d-ot / #defocus |
| 02:09.56 | streuner | nvz: you are in US? |
| 02:10.35 | nvz | streuner: east coast, same timezone as simonlnu but closer geographically to abrotman |
| 02:10.45 | streuner | ic |
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| 02:12.12 | empy | NUJEN MIX!!!!! |
| 02:12.53 | jordanm | Null_: my test shows 4096 bytes |
| 02:13.26 | Null_ | jordanm: nice, not bad. |
| 02:13.33 | koobs | is there anyway to show what updates are pending, without using apt-get upgrade? |
| 02:13.42 | koobs | anyway = another way |
| 02:13.46 | babilen | koobs: "aptitude search ~U" |
| 02:13.52 | koobs | without using atitude |
| 02:13.55 | koobs | :] |
| 02:13.56 | babilen | why? |
| 02:14.00 | Null_ | I just use apt-get -s |
| 02:14.02 | koobs | because its not installed |
| 02:14.05 | Null_ | apt-get -s upgrade |
| 02:14.06 | Null_ | ect. |
| 02:14.17 | empy | NUJEN MIX!!!!! |
| 02:14.20 | koobs | ahh simiulated. |
| 02:14.26 | Null_ | does the job |
| 02:14.29 | babilen | koobs: Install it, you will need it in certain situations. |
| 02:14.42 | babilen | empy: Do you have a Debian related question we can help you with? |
| 02:14.48 | koobs | kinda like maintaining 3 different init frameworks eh? :D |
| 02:14.53 | koobs | dpkg, apt aptitude? :D |
| 02:14.53 | dpkg | koobs: i haven't a clue |
| 02:14.58 | koobs | oh hai. |
| 02:14.59 | koobs | :] |
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| 02:16.15 | dwfreed | koobs: dpkg and apt* are two entirely distinct things; dpkg is the low-level access into the packaging system, and does all the work of installing and removing individual packages; apt* are the user frontends that simplify things |
| 02:16.24 | koobs | yah i know, just sayin :) |
| 02:16.43 | koobs | you can get markedly similar information out of the two, which of course makes sense |
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| 02:17.10 | koobs | what scenario were did you have in mind where aptitude is more necessary or apt than apt? (excuse the pun!) |
| 02:17.32 | streuner | koobs: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 02:17.56 | koobs | so when apt-get is not good enough, interesting |
| 02:18.26 | streuner | well, some users still prefers dselect :-) |
| 02:18.30 | babilen | koobs: Searching for upgradable packages for example ;) -- See also "/msg dpkg aptitude search". It's interactive resolver (or just the different resolver) comes in handy once in a while too. (not so much on stable) |
| 02:18.37 | koobs | just sayin :) |
| 02:18.58 | jordanm | "aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up." - seems to be the opposite post squeeze |
| 02:19.06 | koobs | you should follow my #lolubuntu series on twitter |
| 02:19.15 | streuner | koobs: basically, you just use a tool which you prefer/familiar with |
| 02:19.17 | koobs | tongue in cheek of my experiences :) |
| 02:19.27 | koobs | streuner; yah i totally get the awesomeness of having 'options' :] |
| 02:19.30 | streuner | must be fun :-) |
| 02:19.35 | babilen | koobs: Please take offtopic chatter to #debian-offtopic |
| 02:19.41 | jordanm | aptitude's advanced search is still useful though |
| 02:19.51 | koobs | babilen; i 'did' ask a question :) |
| 02:19.58 | streuner | koobs: thats the tric in Debian, you always have lots of options, i like that ;-) |
| 02:20.08 | koobs | streuner; amen |
| 02:20.15 | streuner | haha |
| 02:20.56 | babilen | koobs: (That was meant for "you should follow my #lolubuntu series on twitter" (and suspected follow-ups)) |
| 02:21.09 | koobs | yah i know, but it was related to the question :] |
| 02:21.23 | koobs | i tweeted #debian hashtags along with :) |
| 02:21.36 | koobs | babilen; but i'll stay on topic, promise |
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| 02:27.52 | samba35 | i am @ home with 2 pc ,1st pc is utm (firewall/vpn/av.etc) and 2nd pc is linux with 3 interface ,i want dmz traffic on eth1 and lan traffic on eth0 how do i configure this usage scenario |
| 02:28.19 | koobs | babilen; whats this i hear about apt-get being deprecated? |
| 02:28.29 | babilen | It's not |
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| 02:29.33 | babilen | In fact it is even the recommended tool for lennyâsqueeze upgrades |
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| 02:32.29 | streuner | use whatever you are familar with, IMO |
| 02:33.04 | streuner | some people still use dselect, and dselect is a great tool, but not user-friendly |
| 02:33.59 | streuner | used kpackage in his first experience with Debian |
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| 02:34.51 | streuner | koobs: we recommend aptitude here |
| 02:34.58 | Ellisss | Call me superficial, call me whatever. I stand with around 85% of the world's women. We like things as nature intended. Any other way is and always will be...WAY second best. |
| 02:35.57 | Ellisss | I will never go back to cut.. I just dont like it as much now that i've had my fun. |
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| 02:36.11 | streuner | omg, my english sucks |
| 02:37.08 | dvs | it duz? |
| 02:37.32 | streuner | sure, i didnt unterstand what Ellisss said... |
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| 02:43.54 | streuner | dactyloa: please logout and come back as user |
| 02:45.34 | streuner | dactyloa: (otherwise you arent able to talk in the channel here...) |
| 02:45.38 | dvs | gets out the hacking tools |
| 02:46.20 | streuner | hehe |
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| 02:48.52 | streuner | <dactyloa> how, well, just logout and login as <user> |
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| 03:12.17 | derric | When I click on the addons button in iceweasal I get an err screen instead of the add on page. |
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| 03:18.20 | derric | I re |
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| 03:18.34 | derric | I reinstalled iceweasel and problem is fixed. |
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| 03:39.05 | blocktree | its is possible to tell iceweasel to use dirfferent default directory other than .mozilla ? or how do I run firefox and iceweasel at the same time..? |
| 03:39.29 | simonlnu | blocktree: different profiles? |
| 03:40.08 | blocktree | simonlnu: iceweasel complais ther firefox is alredy running... how do I do that? |
| 03:40.46 | simonlnu | quit both. start one with -ProfileManager. name it what you want, rename the first one too if you want, etc. |
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| 03:41.27 | blocktree | simonlnu: ok...one sec... |
| 03:41.50 | simonlnu | and if you wanna sync say bookmarks or whatever, just use mozilla sync or whatever else is out there |
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| 03:42.37 | babilen | blocktree: Why do you want to run both? (/me is curious) -- I mean iceweasel is merely a rebranded firefox. |
| 03:43.19 | blocktree | babilen: vmware colsole plugin does work for new firefox 9 version... |
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| 03:43.38 | simonlnu | ah. so need/want new iceweasel |
| 03:43.42 | simonlnu | !mdn |
| 03:43.42 | dpkg | Backports of the Iceweasel web browser and Icedove mail client are not available from <debian backports>. See http://mozilla.debian.net/ for newer Iceweasel and Icedove for squeeze, wheezy or sid. Work continues to get the packages into the official archive without breaking too many other xul-using applications. Also ask me about <transition>, <squeeze-backports>, <testing>. |
| 03:44.24 | blocktree | simonlnu: no in fact I need old iceweasel.. |
| 03:45.38 | babilen | is confused now -- Didn't you just say that it works with FF9? |
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| 03:46.19 | blocktree | babilen: sorry for that guys...my mistake I was ment to say it does NOT work !! |
| 03:46.20 | simonlnu | *blink* |
| 03:46.31 | babilen | So, which version do you need? |
| 03:46.58 | blocktree | I need iceweasel |
| 03:48.11 | blocktree | all si wokring now...!!! thanks guys... |
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| 03:48.23 | simonlnu | ok. you're welcome |
| 03:48.25 | blocktree | i did $ iceweasel -CreateProfile iceweasel |
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| 03:48.58 | blocktree | BTW...just to let you know...Debian is the best...!!! |
| 03:49.26 | simonlnu | i haven't used it for 10 years for nothing ;) |
| 03:49.38 | simonlnu | (10 in march) |
| 03:49.49 | blocktree | aniversary !! |
| 03:49.57 | simonlnu | yeh =) |
| 03:50.12 | blocktree | in my case is something like 5 years... |
| 03:50.29 | simonlnu | that's cool |
| 03:50.35 | blocktree | everytime I try somethign else I always fall back to debian... |
| 03:50.52 | simonlnu | it's like home |
| 03:50.57 | blocktree | yes... |
| 03:51.26 | blocktree | the only think I have to learn is to how to porperly submit bugs... |
| 03:53.27 | simonlnu | reportbug. there's some guides around too |
| 03:53.40 | blocktree | i was werlisng with debian now for few days as I could not get it to work with my new VGA |
| 03:53.54 | blocktree | wresling... |
| 03:54.09 | blocktree | is ATI HD 6 series.. |
| 03:54.23 | simonlnu | ah yes. radeonhd can be a PITA |
| 03:54.38 | blocktree | is seem that it does not work properly with bigmem kernel.. |
| 03:54.45 | blocktree | it was a pain... |
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| 03:55.00 | simonlnu | might need newer kernel |
| 03:55.04 | blocktree | and I still did not get it working... |
| 03:55.32 | blocktree | yes...but I like debian the way it is...stable... |
| 03:55.52 | blocktree | compiling new kernel might introduce new problmes.. |
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| 03:56.10 | blocktree | and may not solve the problem... |
| 03:56.11 | dvs | !tell blocktree about bpo |
| 03:56.41 | blocktree | I used packposrts too... |
| 03:58.04 | blocktree | anyway...as for the future I'm I rahgt to say the is better to buy nvidia rather than radeon? |
| 03:58.57 | simonlnu | older radeon is well supported in foss drivers |
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| 03:59.31 | houken | how about dual graphic cards |
| 03:59.41 | houken | like allienware |
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| 04:00.37 | blocktree | I have ATI radeon HD 6850 with dual monitors... |
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| 04:01.08 | blocktree | fors singel monitros I would not have a problme...the problmes started with dial monitors and with PAE kernel.. |
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| 04:02.57 | samba35 | i have uninstalled apache2 still there is apache2 is been use (check with lsof ) how do i check which package is using apache2 |
| 04:03.59 | blocktree | samba35: have you stoped apache before uninstall? |
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| 04:05.57 | imdoingitwrong | dondelelcaro: streuner: well, about that hostname changing - it actually was dhcp. in the /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf there was a request line, in which amongst others there was "host-name". |
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| 04:13.30 | imdoingitwrong | dondelelcaro: your script gave me an idea, so I rewrote it from scratch to use diff,etc, and it helped immensely in finding out what was going on at boot time :) |
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| 04:15.07 | Gallomimia | this lazy old thing does not want to boot in graphical anything mode. i've tried ubuntu and debian now. the install went fine but it won't boot in graphical mode. the screen is black but i can ssh in. what can i tweak to fix this? |
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| 04:16.55 | houken | Gallomimia: u can install a desktop system |
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| 04:17.58 | imdoingitwrong | Gallomimia: not much of an expert here, but just to put obvious aside - did you install X? |
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| 04:21.38 | Gallomimia | net install cd |
| 04:21.48 | Gallomimia | it asked if i wanted desktop. i said yes |
| 04:22.07 | Gallomimia | but i gotta ask you, if i didn't install any desktop system, don't you think i'd at least be seeing a command line prompt? |
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| 04:23.10 | imdoingitwrong | well yes, you should see a login prompt at that situation |
| 04:24.13 | imdoingitwrong | did you try to install just barebones system from the netinstall, and then pull everything else using apt? |
| 04:24.40 | Gallomimia | that's what i got the first time. the mirror failed cause i guess it's gone and i chose a bit of an obscure one. |
| 04:24.49 | Gallomimia | it didn't even have sshd running |
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| 04:26.19 | imdoingitwrong | and you couldn't login? |
| 04:26.57 | civillian | Gallomimia: try ctrl-alt-f1 from your blank screen |
| 04:27.26 | civillian | if you get a login prompt, then X video card detection failed to load the correct driver for your X session |
| 04:27.57 | imdoingitwrong | aye, try that - and if it fails (which it shouldn't, but...) - and you still can ssh into it, see xorg logs for clues what happened |
| 04:28.17 | pksadiq | ,versions ngspice |
| 04:28.17 | judd | Package: ngspice on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 20-1 |
| 04:28.59 | pksadiq | why does judd says that ngspice is non-free while it is releaed in modified bsd license? |
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| 04:32.29 | pksadiq | any debian legal channel? |
| 04:32.48 | civillian | What's a good way to store private keys for a bunch of SSL sites that I run? print them off? |
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| 04:33.02 | phantomcircuit | BlueMatt, I SEE YOU |
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| 04:33.42 | BlueMatt | that was random... |
| 04:34.13 | imdoingitwrong | haha ^^ |
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| 04:44.47 | Gallomimia | civillian ctrl alt f1 does nothing thanks tho |
| 04:44.48 | karlpinc | I'm trying to use svn and it asks me for: Password for '(null)' GNOME keyring: How do I get it to ignore the gnome keyring? |
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| 04:45.50 | karlpinc | civillian: Put them on a device that's locked up and never on any network. |
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| 04:47.38 | civillian | karlpinc: good idea too cheers |
| 04:47.41 | shevy | I accidentally removed make (on a knoppix hdinstall). How to obtain it again? "apt-get install make" tells me that "make is already the newest version.", I assume it looks in some cache of some sorts |
| 04:48.08 | civillian | shevy: so you did rm make? |
| 04:48.55 | shevy | civillian more or less yeah. I actually moved a symlink rather and thought I moved make |
| 04:49.33 | karlpinc | Looks like the right way is to add "password-stores = " to subversion/config. |
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| 04:50.32 | karlpinc | civillian: A raspberrypi would be a good choice, although I don't know they're out of beta yet. |
| 04:52.14 | Gallomimia | they're not |
| 04:53.05 | civillian | karlpinc: hmm looks good |
| 04:53.12 | Gallomimia | they're awesome |
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| 05:02.05 | shevy | how to update gcc version? current gcc I have is gcc version 4.6.1 (Debian 4.6.1-10) |
| 05:03.06 | pksadiq | shevy: did you try reinstall make? |
| 05:04.06 | shevy | pksadiq yeah but now it wants to remove odd things |
| 05:04.31 | shevy | http://pastie.org/3122742 |
| 05:04.40 | pksadiq | shevy: was this you tried? apt-get --reinstall install ? |
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| 05:05.02 | shevy | pksadiq unfortunately no :( I think I did something else first |
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| 05:06.04 | shevy | oh |
| 05:06.10 | shevy | would it work if I just download a .deb file? |
| 05:07.09 | pksadiq | shevy: better try sudo apt-get install -f , and choose the best |
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| 05:08.33 | SVNDR | Is there anyway to se an ident deamon? but on a specific user.. so that if they connect to a BNC on IRC their ident will be the one ive set |
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| 05:11.48 | SVNDR | set* |
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| 05:37.22 | simonlnu | SVNDR: oidentd ('daemon' btw) can do custom ident |
| 05:45.30 | SVNDR | simonlnu: cheers.. haha yea daemon ;p |
| 05:45.48 | SVNDR | simonlnu: is 'oident' a package, or a cmd? |
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| 05:46.07 | simonlnu | 'oidentd' package |
| 05:46.33 | SVNDR | thanls |
| 05:46.35 | SVNDR | thanks* |
| 05:46.42 | SVNDR | mind the spelling today |
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| 06:03.46 | Gallomimia | okay so i tried installing ubuntu on this really old system i have. the graphics never booted. seems the same problem under debian, but at least i got it installed. they alluded to some nomodeset flag that could be turned on in the kernel. of course i didn't want to do that to a cd where i had to burn and reburn every time. now i have debian on the hard disk it should be easier. anyone know where to find that stuff? |
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| 06:19.22 | scotte_2012 | d |
| 06:19.45 | scotte_2012 | REGISTER abc321 cryonmyshoulder2010@gmail.com |
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| 06:20.46 | Gallomimia | that's probably not the window you want to be typing it in |
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| 06:21.38 | kay_ | lawl |
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| 06:33.46 | Gallomimia | need someone's help figuring out why my system boots to a black screen. i tried configuring nomodeset in grub and no change. i can ssh into the box and it's running fine |
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| 06:41.11 | Gallomimia | lols. rage128 card :/ |
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| 06:45.29 | Gallomimia | hm okay i must have set nomodeset incorrectly. |
| 06:45.46 | Gallomimia | any tips? i clearly don't have a radeon card but it is ati brand |
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| 06:50.44 | kay_ | mrow |
| 06:52.01 | Gallomimia | some of these wiki pages are very informative, but don't tell you what needs doing |
| 06:52.46 | Gallomimia | any help at all would be great right now |
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| 06:56.01 | Gallomimia | HAH. got it. blindness is not a cure for stupidity |
| 06:56.04 | imgx64 | Silly question: is there a way to report a bug using the web interface at www.debian.org/bugs/ ? |
| 06:56.29 | Gallomimia | well that's a 404 error so.... no. |
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| 06:56.43 | Gallomimia | maybe it's bugs.debian.org? |
| 06:56.57 | Gallomimia | OH |
| 06:57.00 | Gallomimia | capital B son |
| 06:57.03 | imgx64 | Wow. www.debian.org/Bugs/ (case sensitive URL?!) |
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| 06:57.24 | Gallomimia | all *nix operating systems have case sensitive filenames |
| 06:57.24 | imgx64 | Now that should be a bug.. |
| 06:57.31 | Gallomimia | working as intended |
| 06:57.39 | Gallomimia | but maybe they could put a link for lowercase b |
| 06:57.54 | Gallomimia | a redirect would be better i guess |
| 06:58.34 | imgx64 | Well, anyway, after a lot of searching, I couldn't find a way, so I suppose it' impossible to report a bug using the web interface? |
| 06:58.56 | Gallomimia | and.... no |
| 06:59.05 | Gallomimia | you use the program reportbug |
| 06:59.06 | Gallomimia | or email it |
| 06:59.14 | Gallomimia | http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
| 06:59.47 | imgx64 | Okay. It's just... different than other bug trackers I've used. I can live with that. |
| 07:00.02 | Gallomimia | yeah really different. i won't disagree |
| 07:00.10 | Gallomimia | heh. comments via email too |
| 07:00.13 | Gallomimia | very very different |
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| 07:00.22 | Gallomimia | i guess sending email via command line is pretty easy |
| 07:00.31 | Gallomimia | i used to know how. i should relearn it |
| 07:01.53 | imgx64 | I can paste the contents of the file generated by reportbug in gmail, right? |
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| 07:02.50 | Gallomimia | uh.... i dunno |
| 07:02.55 | Gallomimia | i suggest man reportbug |
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| 07:04.35 | Gallomimia | hm. seems i spoke too soon about the black screen problem going away |
| 07:04.38 | Gallomimia | this is getting annoying |
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| 07:04.47 | Gallomimia | i might soon hit the gfx card in this system with a hammer |
| 07:05.18 | Gallomimia | anyone know how i can find out what gfx drivers are being used? |
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| 07:07.30 | Gallomimia | fuck it. i can run an xwindow server and connect from a different computer |
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| 07:20.42 | sixyearsofdreams | Hello, I tried to clear my /var/log/apache2/access.log so its fresh and clean I did it with rm, afterwards i created a new one or i thought it would automaticaly create one, but its not updating any access, any suggestions, thanks |
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| 07:22.05 | sixyearsofdreams | i also did give it permission so it can be writen to it, still no dice |
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| 07:23.19 | simonlnu | try restarting the daemon. it might know that it can write to it, or it even exists. you might be interested in the logrotate package. |
| 07:23.26 | simonlnu | might not know* |
| 07:24.06 | sixyearsofdreams | i can try restarting apache2, but whats logrotate package |
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| 07:24.52 | simonlnu | like the name implies, it rotates logs |
| 07:24.58 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 07:25.03 | Gallomimia | aw. crap. disk full already |
| 07:25.07 | simonlnu | very handy |
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| 07:25.18 | Gallomimia | any quick and dirty tips for clearing disk space? |
| 07:25.28 | simonlnu | try apt-get clean |
| 07:25.30 | Gallomimia | i haven't even got the system up and running a gui yet |
| 07:25.41 | Gallomimia | is that wise while it's doing stuff? |
| 07:25.55 | Gallomimia | currently installing kde |
| 07:26.36 | simonlnu | if it's installing stuff, no. but you can try deleting already configured packages. "Settings foo...". BUT, *you take your chances* |
| 07:26.47 | simonlnu | erm "Setting up foo..." |
| 07:27.08 | Gallomimia | no idea how it's still working when df reports zero space avail |
| 07:27.27 | simonlnu | well, there's the 5% for root, for such situations |
| 07:27.42 | simonlnu | so you have a wee bit of leeway if you didn't change that |
| 07:27.43 | Gallomimia | alright. i'll let it finish |
| 07:27.48 | Gallomimia | no i left that in there |
| 07:28.01 | Gallomimia | good idea really |
| 07:28.14 | simonlnu | old idea, that's very useful ;) |
| 07:28.44 | Gallomimia | oh yeah. lots of the packages failed to install |
| 07:28.57 | simonlnu | the journal takes up room too |
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| 07:29.18 | simonlnu | you can always re-run aptitude, and it'll pick up |
| 07:29.26 | simonlnu | where it left off |
| 07:29.31 | Gallomimia | aptitude? not apt-get? |
| 07:29.48 | simonlnu | apt-get too. i just prefer aptitude. |
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| 07:30.03 | Gallomimia | yeah. i'll see if the clean will fix this |
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| 07:30.31 | Gallomimia | ugh. nope |
| 07:30.35 | Gallomimia | alright.. what don't i need :/ |
| 07:30.51 | simonlnu | how much room total do you have? |
| 07:30.54 | Gallomimia | and considering my dreadfully limited disk size |
| 07:30.59 | Gallomimia | it's a 13.6g drive |
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| 07:31.12 | Gallomimia | the purpose will be to run azureus |
| 07:31.14 | simonlnu | that should be plenty for a kde + xorg install |
| 07:31.16 | Gallomimia | and tinker with |
| 07:31.29 | Gallomimia | yeah. but did i install gnome with the installer already :/ |
| 07:31.31 | simonlnu | did you partition it at all? |
| 07:31.40 | Gallomimia | i reserved a gig for swap |
| 07:31.44 | Gallomimia | that might be a mite much |
| 07:31.45 | simonlnu | ah. well, you can purge that if you like, make some room |
| 07:32.00 | simonlnu | it'll free up about a gb |
| 07:32.09 | Gallomimia | heh |
| 07:32.15 | Gallomimia | the installer suggested a quarter gig |
| 07:32.21 | Gallomimia | i couldn't see that being nearly enough |
| 07:32.23 | simonlnu | (they're both rather room hungry) |
| 07:32.32 | Gallomimia | oh. gnome you mean |
| 07:32.32 | Gallomimia | yeah |
| 07:32.39 | Gallomimia | i have a nas on the network |
| 07:32.53 | simonlnu | how much ram? |
| 07:32.55 | Gallomimia | maybe i could mount that for some speed |
| 07:32.56 | Gallomimia | 128 |
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| 07:33.04 | simonlnu | leave the swap alone |
| 07:33.07 | Gallomimia | heh. and i was going to install ubuntu |
| 07:33.10 | Gallomimia | leave it at a gig? |
| 07:33.16 | Gallomimia | or down to a quarter |
| 07:33.26 | simonlnu | yeh. azureus is memory hungry |
| 07:33.32 | Gallomimia | no shit eh :/ |
| 07:33.57 | Gallomimia | now... i need to learn how apt-get works for listing what's installed and crap |
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| 07:34.35 | simonlnu | apt-get doesn't do that, dpkg does. dpkg -l for the full list. dpkg -l packagename (shell globbing works too) for single (or more) lsiting |
| 07:34.43 | simonlnu | list* |
| 07:35.18 | simonlnu | dpkg -l '*foo*' (for example) or dpkg -l full-package-name another-package [etc.] |
| 07:35.18 | dpkg | No packages found matching '*foo*' (for example) or dpkg -l full-package-name another-package [etc.] |
| 07:35.27 | simonlnu | dpkg: shaddup |
| 07:35.27 | dpkg | No, I won't, you shaddup, you |
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| 07:35.57 | Gallomimia | that's why i thought it was broken :P |
| 07:36.22 | simonlnu | ^_^ |
| 07:37.22 | shawn_ | whats the elegent new multiarch way to install a 32-bit lib on amd64? |
| 07:38.00 | simonlnu | on squeeze? it's not in squeeze. multiarch-support is wheezy+ |
| 07:38.38 | Gallomimia | holy crap. open office is installed. |
| 07:38.45 | shawn_ | simonlnu, i know |
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| 07:40.05 | simonlnu | Gallomimia: that'll do it |
| 07:40.11 | Gallomimia | yeah. |
| 07:40.23 | Gallomimia | can't seem to remove anything for diskfull errors :/ |
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| 07:43.38 | Gallomimia | this is bad. what can i remove... |
| 07:43.45 | Gallomimia | hopefully that. vmlinuz |
| 07:44.22 | simonlnu | eek. no |
| 07:44.29 | Gallomimia | too late |
| 07:44.37 | simonlnu | don't reboot |
| 07:44.47 | Gallomimia | or... reboot with a cd in the drive? |
| 07:44.55 | Gallomimia | that would solve 2 problems now you see.... |
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| 07:48.02 | Gallomimia | yep. this will make it much easier to fix. |
| 07:48.05 | Gallomimia | reinstall |
| 07:48.56 | Gallomimia | i've been fucking with settings to try and get the screen to not be black also |
| 07:49.05 | Gallomimia | the installer, does it default to gnome? |
| 07:50.51 | simonlnu | if you select desktop task (the blue/glod screen, with stuff like 'dns server' 'desktop' and so on) in it yes. you can uncheck that so you can do kde. unless you use the kde specific cd |
| 07:51.21 | Gallomimia | god bless ucalgary's debian mirror |
| 07:51.26 | Gallomimia | no i have the net install disc |
| 07:51.35 | Gallomimia | and i've found an option to install kde instead |
| 07:51.44 | Gallomimia | not that i'm partial against gnome but... i've used kde so |
| 07:51.51 | simonlnu | ok. nonetheless you might want to uncheck that 'desktop'. it'll save you some trouble. |
| 07:52.07 | simonlnu | ok |
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| 07:52.19 | Gallomimia | yeah i can ssh in and install what i want now. getting to know something about what i'm doing here |
| 07:52.33 | simonlnu | :) |
| 07:52.49 | Gallomimia | and obviously it's not my primary computer |
| 07:52.56 | simonlnu | you near calgary, or you like that mirror? |
| 07:53.05 | Gallomimia | in the network, yes |
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| 07:53.11 | simonlnu | ah ok |
| 07:53.14 | Gallomimia | and i'm certain they have the same ISP as me |
| 07:53.27 | simonlnu | i'm on the other side of the continent ;p |
| 07:53.41 | Gallomimia | the isp in my town has a fiber line that goes to calgary and no where else |
| 07:53.47 | simonlnu | aah |
| 07:53.48 | Gallomimia | which is where their hq is |
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| 07:56.09 | Gallomimia | it's so fast in fact, that i felt compelled to send an email to the department head who hosts the mirror |
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| 07:56.35 | rainfyre | hey all |
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| 07:56.39 | Gallomimia | hi |
| 07:56.45 | unkmar | (OS: squeeze) I uninstalled and then installed vlc. Now vlc gives Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supporte by C library. I have not logged out or rebooted during any of this. |
| 07:56.53 | unkmar | Any ideas how to fix this? |
| 07:57.01 | rainfyre | hey Gallomimia |
| 07:57.12 | Gallomimia | whatcha doin? |
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| 07:59.46 | nighter | Hi, i have only 2 workspaces in debian. When I take properties on workspace applet and try to add more workspaces it's not possible. How can i add more workspaces in debian? Can't find any info about this issue on google. I use gnome and compiz. |
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| 08:00.55 | unkmar | Would have been nice to know that the debian-multimedia might break vlc. |
| 08:01.47 | Gallomimia | unkmar: the nice thing about FOSS is that it's wiki in nature. Now that you know, take steps to let others know so they don't suffer the same pitfall |
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| 08:03.08 | unkmar | Gallomimia: I'm not sure I have a wiki account and I am certain I don't want yet another account of any kind at the moment. Besides, if I had googled first, I might have known. |
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| 08:04.08 | Gallomimia | well, maybe you can email the package maintainer and have him add a warning to the install script |
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| 08:04.41 | Gallomimia | i didn't mean THE wiki. all of the os and packages are quite editable |
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| 08:06.17 | rainfyre | can anyone here tell me if I can run a 32 bit virtual machine when my box is running a 64 bit kernel? |
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| 08:09.00 | scanf | hi, is there a howto for making a bootable usb disk? its not just dd as it is in other distros |
| 08:09.09 | scanf | im trying to use testing netinst |
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| 08:15.13 | bolt | rainfyre: depends entirely on whether or not your vm application supports doing so. it's possible, and I do it every day with KVM |
| 08:15.33 | bolt | rainfyre: if you use something else, then i have no clue |
| 08:15.46 | Gallomimia | rainfyre: i see no reason why not. i've no idea personally |
| 08:16.53 | valdyn | rainfyre: the vm does not need to be 32-bit to run a 32-bit OS in it |
| 08:16.57 | bolt | scanf: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+usb+boot&l=1 |
| 08:17.06 | Gallomimia | aw crap. i went ahead on install without checking the ssh server |
| 08:17.12 | Gallomimia | why would anyone want a system without that installed :/ |
| 08:17.23 | bolt | Gallomimia: laptop, perhaps |
| 08:17.39 | Gallomimia | even a laptop would have a use for that once in awhile |
| 08:17.59 | Gallomimia | sometimes mine locks up and i login with another system to kill programs or issue a shutdown -r |
| 08:18.22 | bolt | then i suggest fixing whatever makes it lock up :) |
| 08:18.36 | Gallomimia | rm -rf / |
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| 08:18.55 | bolt | that *would* make it lock up, yes. stop doing that :P |
| 08:19.06 | Gallomimia | no no that's the solution! |
| 08:19.16 | Gallomimia | obviously i don't want to do that |
| 08:19.42 | Gallomimia | so what was the final score in the world juniors game tonight? |
| 08:20.01 | bolt | huh? |
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| 08:20.10 | Gallomimia | hockey |
| 08:20.14 | Gallomimia | canada vs russia |
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| 08:21.12 | bolt | has no interest in sports |
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| 08:21.33 | mrcarrot | what is the correct way nowdays to get all packages installed in one computer to be also installed in another computer? |
| 08:21.45 | mrcarrot | all guides i have found have been outdated, not working anymore |
| 08:22.16 | tvm | gallomimia: 6:5 for russia |
| 08:22.22 | Gallomimia | wow good for canada |
| 08:22.27 | Gallomimia | i predicted 6:3 |
| 08:22.40 | Gallomimia | fucking pathetic first two periods |
| 08:22.52 | tvm | we lost 2:1 to Russia, i blame the refrees |
| 08:23.02 | Gallomimia | oh yes me too |
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| 08:23.41 | Gallomimia | anyway that's enough sports in a nerd channel |
| 08:23.45 | unkmar | great, now it runs and it still errors. I have NO idea how to repair this. Wait, I do to. Pretend it is windows and reinstall. >:( |
| 08:23.45 | tvm | OT goal after a direct hit of the defenseman with stick into head which was unable to defend anymore :| |
| 08:23.48 | tvm | yeah :| |
| 08:23.58 | Gallomimia | gah that's horrible |
| 08:24.02 | Gallomimia | spearing? |
| 08:24.07 | Gallomimia | that's a game ejection |
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| 08:24.37 | tvm | nay, he let the stick go too high after shot |
| 08:25.05 | Gallomimia | no goal. 2 minutes. puck outside the blue line. |
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| 08:25.20 | bolt | stares in the general direction of #debian-offtopic |
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| 08:26.10 | simonlnu | it's this way >>>> |
| 08:26.57 | simonlnu | points with is lips in the direction of #d-ot |
| 08:27.09 | simonlnu | his* |
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| 08:32.04 | simonlnu | plop |
| 08:32.43 | Gallomimia | see? talking about hockey was good for channel activity :P |
| 08:33.07 | simonlnu | would've been cool for d-ot's activity too ;p |
| 08:33.14 | tvm | chuckles |
| 08:33.36 | Gallomimia | so, for my reference how can i forgo graphical desktop on the boot of this OS, say if i want to just have a command line at boot |
| 08:33.43 | simonlnu | snaps his suspenders |
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| 08:34.01 | simonlnu | !tasksel |
| 08:34.01 | dpkg | tasksel is a program to select and install "tasks": a collection of packages for a system to perform a specific task (e.g. desktop environment, web server). Ask me about <standard task>, <server tasks> and <laptop task>. http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel |
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| 08:34.16 | simonlnu | uncheck 'desktop' one |
| 08:34.29 | simonlnu | it's on by default |
| 08:34.48 | sauvin | mrcarrot, wanna try again in here? |
| 08:34.51 | simonlnu | and installs a metric boatload of packages |
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| 08:35.25 | Gallomimia | that's not what i asked |
| 08:35.30 | Gallomimia | perhaps i was unclear |
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| 08:35.43 | mrcarrot | 10:22 < mrcarrot> what is the correct way nowdays to get all packages installed in one computer to be also installed in another computer? |
| 08:36.04 | tvm | gallomimia: change runlevel in /etc/inittab or use update-rc.d to remove X login manager |
| 08:36.10 | mrcarrot | the guides i have found is using dselect (a command not existing in squeeze, apparently) |
| 08:36.19 | Gallomimia | the system is in whatever state. perhaps the graphical desktop won't load properly... how can i get a command line on boot |
| 08:36.33 | simonlnu | Gallomimia: oh. duh. yeh, /msg dpkg nodm (here) |
| 08:36.42 | tvm | gallomimia: usually CRTL+ALT+F1, tty should be just there |
| 08:36.43 | Gallomimia | yeah. editing files wasn't available last time i checked that |
| 08:36.54 | simonlnu | the cl is *always* there. ;) |
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| 08:37.15 | simonlnu | unless getty chokes, but that's very rare |
| 08:37.16 | Gallomimia | k ctrl alt f1 i'll try that if it happens again |
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| 08:37.40 | sauvin | Nobody has any time for mrcarrot? |
| 08:38.00 | simonlnu | !get-selections |
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| 08:38.54 | tvm | simonlnu: well, sometimes it is hard to switch, with fubar'd Xorg drivers (radeon/nvidia) it might be impossible to switch back to terminal, had this happen several times :( |
| 08:38.59 | mrcarrot | simonlnu: i was trying according to the guides dpkg --get-selections on the first computer and then dpkg --set-selections on the other one with the output from the first. then i should run dselect according to the guides |
| 08:39.01 | simonlnu | !selections |
| 08:39.19 | tvm | but that's problem of the propertiary drivers mostly. |
| 08:39.22 | simonlnu | mrcarrot: you'd run aptitude instead. |
| 08:39.43 | mrcarrot | ah, okay. thanks! |
| 08:39.49 | simonlnu | tvm: i know. even on iffy video devices. like this card. |
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| 08:40.29 | tvm | simonlnu: unfortunately, i have this on my new laptop and it's kind of irritating :| |
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| 08:40.49 | simonlnu | mrcarrot: /msg dpkg debian clone |
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| 08:41.56 | simonlnu | tvm: this card, i have to run a dm otherwise the vt switching doesn't work. but if x is running, it does. it does also if x isn't running. if i start an xsession via startx, it won't come back. very odd. |
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| 08:43.05 | tvm | simonlnu: hmmm, indeed. what gfx is it ? |
| 08:43.13 | simonlnu | radeon 9k |
| 08:43.30 | simonlnu | getting a radeon 9800pro soon |
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| 08:43.59 | debi-ann | Hi all...is it possible to mount a cdrom or .iso with exec permision? I have tried "mount -o exec......." but had no luck. |
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| 08:44.26 | tvm | simonlnu: this problem of mine is on radeon aswell :| |
| 08:44.40 | simonlnu | debi-ann: might not let you do that |
| 08:45.29 | debi-ann | simonlnu...it is resisting |
| 08:45.31 | mrcarrot | i am now running what the bot said about aptitude clone. seems to work |
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| 08:58.40 | debi-ann | I have been stumped trying to install Matlab from a cdrom. It appears that some included binary executable files on the |
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| 09:00.19 | hermanvon | debi-ann: try using a VM with the recommended OS version |
| 09:00.29 | debi-ann | I have been stumped trying to install Matlab from a cdrom. It appears that some included binary executable files will not run because I cant mount the cd with exec permission. Does anybody have any ideas on a work around? |
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| 09:03.09 | simonlnu | debi-ann: how are you mounting it? |
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| 09:04.13 | fulgor | hey |
| 09:04.36 | fulgor | how can reapear the tray where network manager is on in debian gnome? |
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| 09:05.02 | simonlnu | re-add it to the panel? |
| 09:05.07 | debi-ann | simonlnu..I tried "mount -o exec /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0" |
| 09:05.17 | fulgor | simonlnu, yes |
| 09:05.23 | fulgor | top right |
| 09:05.58 | fulgor | the default tray which is on the top right side |
| 09:06.00 | simonlnu | debi-ann: did you try mounting via loop, or with a -t switch? |
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| 09:06.43 | simonlnu | no, i'm saying do that. right click panel, add applet >> system tray |
| 09:06.51 | debi-ann | simonlnu..yes I tried both of those |
| 09:07.32 | simonlnu | iso9660 or -o loop,dev,exec or such |
| 09:07.39 | simonlnu | -t iso9660 |
| 09:09.01 | debi-ann | simonlnu..yes I tried both of these together |
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| 09:09.40 | simonlnu | alright |
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| 09:11.23 | nardul | Hello gentlemen/gentlewomen, i'm installing MySQL as a part of a script using apt-get, apt-get install asks for a MySQL password, is there a way i can make it not ask for the password? I don't want the user to be bothered with it. I wan't to set the password using my script. |
| 09:12.28 | simonlnu | debi-ann: not much clue from me, sorry |
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| 09:12.35 | unkmar | I rebooted, now vlc runs, and I still get the Gtk Locale errors. |
| 09:13.11 | Gallomimia | ahhh i went back in the installer and installed stuff i forgot. excellent |
| 09:13.13 | simonlnu | nardul: set debconf to be non-interactive. dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 09:13.25 | unkmar | complete with Warning: call to signal(13, 0x1) and Warning: call to rand() <--Several of these. |
| 09:14.34 | stockholm | chandra is down |
| 09:14.53 | debi-ann | simonlnu..thank you anyway |
| 09:15.07 | simonlnu | debi-ann: good luck |
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| 09:15.52 | nardul | simonlnu: Thank you very much! |
| 09:16.14 | cthuluh | try playing with DEBCONF_FRONTEND, too |
| 09:16.27 | fulgor | simonlnu, is there a specific default tray in a gnome distro? |
| 09:16.28 | cthuluh | it might be more flexible than dpkg-reconfigure |
| 09:16.52 | fulgor | which are the networkmanager , time etc? |
| 09:16.59 | simonlnu | fulgor: says something like system or notification tray |
| 09:17.09 | nardul | simonlnu: Is there any way to change that through a script? |
| 09:17.20 | fulgor | hmm |
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| 09:17.37 | simonlnu | nardul: yes, using preseeding |
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| 09:18.45 | fulgor | found it |
| 09:18.54 | fulgor | notification area |
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| 09:18.59 | fulgor | of something |
| 09:19.04 | fulgor | thanx simonlnu |
| 09:19.16 | Gallomimia | bah. ctrl alt f1 does nothing |
| 09:19.25 | ksuhku | nardul, just remember to reset any settings you change :) |
| 09:19.45 | nardul | ksuhku: This is for some automatic server installation we use, no worries :) |
| 09:20.27 | simonlnu | that's it. fulgor, yw |
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| 09:24.34 | ksuhku | somebody explain to me why people change their nicks when they go afk? |
| 09:24.42 | ksuhku | seems... primitive |
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| 09:25.52 | unkmar | I did have these errors before the multimedia stufff was installed, and now I don't know how to purge and reinstall it without the debian-multimedia. |
| 09:27.16 | unkmar | s/did/did NOT/ |
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| 09:28.32 | SVNDR | Can i set the limit on how much diskspace/RAM a user can use in limits.conf? |
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| 09:30.02 | bmwiedemann | hi. is it possible that last testing netinst and businesscard iso builds are broken? looking at automated test results suggests this started on 2nd January: http://openqa.opensuse.org/results/?sort=-mtime&hours=200&match=debian |
| 09:31.17 | bmwiedemann | SVNDR: I think, you can limit RAM with "rss" there. for disk space, use quota |
| 09:31.49 | simonlnu | yes, easily. testing implies borked. |
| 09:32.05 | simonlnu | !bts |
| 09:32.05 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 09:35.23 | bmwiedemann | maybe I file it, when I have time (on friday) |
| 09:36.01 | Gallomimia | okay... i need to remove openoffice.org packages from this system. the primary package was obviously easy. all of the sub packages remain. dpkg lists them all as having the same name due to column width. how can i view their full names or remove all of them? |
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| 09:36.29 | Gallomimia | oh. add a * to the end of it. |
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| 09:37.17 | ksuhku | :) |
| 09:37.36 | Gallomimia | seriously didn't believe apt-get would handle a wildcard |
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| 09:39.09 | simonlnu | Gallomimia: told you that earlier ;). many of the package mgt. tools do |
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| 09:39.48 | Gallomimia | well maybe grand marnier doesn't want me to remember that :P |
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| 09:40.14 | simonlnu | no, alocohol isn't conducive to remembering stuff ;p |
| 09:40.27 | simonlnu | alcohol even |
| 09:40.31 | Gallomimia | making me do well with linux |
| 09:41.13 | simonlnu | prefers tobacco, less poisonous in the recreational amounts |
| 09:41.21 | Gallomimia | what? no. |
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| 09:41.27 | Gallomimia | alpha radiation |
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| 09:43.48 | Gallomimia | heh. azures installed. 8.5g avail |
| 09:43.50 | Gallomimia | much better |
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| 09:44.24 | simonlnu | quite |
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| 09:44.55 | Gallomimia | and now |
| 09:45.07 | Gallomimia | since i still can't get graphics or even a terminal to display on the host monitor |
| 09:45.16 | Gallomimia | i must find out how to open an xserver and run vuze in that |
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| 09:47.31 | Gallomimia | do i need to actually run a vnc server or will xwindows do it without that? |
| 09:48.00 | unkmar | Gallomimia: x11vnc |
| 09:48.28 | unkmar | Gallomimia: though there are other methods. |
| 09:48.33 | Gallomimia | are you fucking kidding me? 6 gigs to install |
| 09:48.59 | Gallomimia | oh. that's megs |
| 09:49.07 | Gallomimia | really scared me |
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| 09:52.15 | Gallomimia | heh. of course. launching this program won't work if you're not logged in on the host |
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| 09:55.29 | fulgor | does anyone saw this upgrade that erased openoffice? |
| 09:55.41 | fulgor | what is that? |
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| 09:55.56 | mjt | !openoffice |
| 09:55.56 | dpkg | OpenOffice.org is a productivity suite based on Sun's StarOffice. http://wiki.debian.org/OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ #debian-oo on irc.oftc.net, #openoffice.org on irc.freenode.net. See also <debian ooo> and <libreoffice>. |
| 09:56.06 | mjt | !libreoffice |
| 09:56.07 | dpkg | LibreOffice is a fork of <OpenOffice>. It is packaged in <testing> and <squeeze-backports>, replacing the OpenOffice.org packaging. Debian users will see little difference between the old OOo packages and LibreOffice, ask me about <debian ooo>. http://wiki.debian.org/LibreOffice http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110623 http://www.libreoffice.org/ #documentfoundation on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 09:56.17 | fulgor | transaction? |
| 09:56.24 | mjt | what? |
| 09:56.42 | fulgor | debian is doing the open to libre transaction? |
| 09:56.50 | mjt | transition, yes |
| 09:56.59 | fulgor | im scotish |
| 09:57.07 | fulgor | lol |
| 09:57.10 | piscue | lol |
| 09:57.15 | mjt | that does not make transaction equal to transition :) |
| 09:57.32 | fulgor | thanx mjt |
| 09:57.32 | fulgor | im calmer now |
| 09:57.48 | Gallomimia | the world needs less forks :( |
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| 09:58.04 | fulgor | the world needs to eat right? |
| 09:58.06 | unkmar | and more spooning |
| 09:58.22 | mjt | or spoonfeeding |
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| 09:58.48 | Gallomimia | i mean software forks |
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| 09:59.23 | Gallomimia | a lot of people work on open office. do we really need to spend effort in maintaining 3-4 different distributions? |
| 09:59.36 | FreeMem | my dpkg is on borderline ready to snap. how do I purge all the nonsense that came with yacy. Mainly that JAVA stack and all those files. I had a headless box |
| 09:59.37 | Gallomimia | i guess linux is exactly the same tho |
| 09:59.42 | mjt | Gallomimia: please address these to Oracle |
| 09:59.50 | Gallomimia | heh. yes i suppose |
| 10:00.00 | ksuhku | forks are the ultimate insurance |
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| 10:00.10 | Gallomimia | i was introduced to the community 8 months before oracle came in |
| 10:00.11 | fulgor | oh why i add the backports? |
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| 10:00.27 | FreeMem | any script to purge all the java SDK JRE off a squeeze box? |
| 10:00.43 | Gallomimia | apt-get remove java* ?? |
| 10:00.48 | FreeMem | looks like it's installing SUN java now. ;o( |
| 10:01.33 | mjt | so it's marked as a dependency of something you're installing |
| 10:01.37 | FreeMem | Gallomimia: is that SAFE? |
| 10:01.50 | mjt | nothing is safe |
| 10:01.56 | mjt | and especially SAFE |
| 10:01.56 | Gallomimia | doubtful |
| 10:01.59 | FreeMem | I see a lot of lib*java*something |
| 10:02.08 | Gallomimia | put *'s on both side? |
| 10:02.21 | FreeMem | added a bunch of X garbage on my box with no head |
| 10:02.30 | Gallomimia | heh |
| 10:02.38 | FreeMem | purge that cruft is what I want |
| 10:02.43 | Gallomimia | pretty hard to run azureus on my headless box |
| 10:02.47 | FreeMem | java X fonts xml whatever |
| 10:02.50 | Gallomimia | mine has a head.... it just won't work :( |
| 10:02.56 | FreeMem | i want it all gone again |
| 10:03.11 | FreeMem | okay headless |
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| 10:03.18 | drupol | hello |
| 10:03.21 | Gallomimia | hi |
| 10:03.25 | fulgor | the update to 2.6.39 from 2.6.32 ? is it stable? |
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| 10:03.32 | drupol | Is there a way to download a debian virtual machine already installed ? |
| 10:03.59 | drupol | I need a quick good small server with virtualbox. |
| 10:04.05 | FreeMem | lib bind9 lib dns I don't need these things, where are they coming from avahi Damenon |
| 10:04.06 | ksuhku | Gallomimia, perhaps something running in a terminal would be easier? like transmission-daemon |
| 10:04.18 | FreeMem | gsfonts |
| 10:04.22 | Gallomimia | easier, sure. but i want the plugins available in azureus |
| 10:04.39 | fulgor | azureus is heavy |
| 10:04.43 | FreeMem | I had a CLEAN box tried to add YaCY (the search engine) and all HELL broke loose |
| 10:04.50 | Gallomimia | i know |
| 10:04.52 | FreeMem | help please |
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| 10:05.28 | FreeMem | the sources.lst has debian.yacy.com purged |
| 10:05.38 | FreeMem | I just want it the hell off |
| 10:06.04 | FreeMem | libaudio? Im on a cobalt no audio |
| 10:06.45 | fulgor | the update to 2.6.39 from 2.6.32 ? is it stable? |
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| 10:06.47 | FreeMem | is the open search engine YaCY Safe? |
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| 10:07.22 | FreeMem | I don't ask for help often |
| 10:08.18 | fulgor | FreeMem dont know , but if you dont want it , delete from the source.list |
| 10:08.23 | ksuhku | FreeMem, try reading dpkg log? |
| 10:08.53 | FreeMem | yeah the log has a plethora of nonsense |
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| 10:09.23 | FreeMem | half configured galore |
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| 10:09.36 | FreeMem | ;o) |
| 10:09.46 | FreeMem | do I got to go line by line cleaning? |
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| 10:10.38 | FreeMem | or mayb start in /etc/init.d and delete all the services I didn't want |
| 10:10.54 | FreeMem | leave the binaries in place? That's lame |
| 10:11.09 | FreeMem | I guess I got too. |
| 10:11.31 | FreeMem | damn BE careful with that YaCY search engine... ;o( bad |
| 10:11.35 | FreeMem | peace all |
| 10:12.15 | ksuhku | more like don't install random stuff if you cant handle it... |
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| 10:13.52 | fulgor | so the openoffice is gone , where is the libre office? |
| 10:14.37 | Gallomimia | hm. transmission channel is dead. i'd like to take up the suggestion.... anyone know if that software (the daemon) has speed scheduler and decent ignore/first priority (like) rules? |
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| 10:15.16 | mjt | it has 2 speed settings |
| 10:15.31 | mjt | with switching between them on schedule |
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| 10:16.04 | Gallomimia | meh |
| 10:16.16 | mjt | and it has rpc and a command-line client which you can combine with cron to set up any schedules you like |
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| 10:16.29 | ksuhku | Gallomimia, a scheduler yes and some kind of priority system as well |
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| 10:16.59 | pe | !list |
| 10:16.59 | dpkg | pe: Ă possibile di scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 10:17.17 | Gallomimia | uh..... list in english? |
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| 10:19.57 | ksuhku | Gallomimia, and it has a basic web interface as well |
| 10:21.13 | mjt | i recommend transgui as a client - web interface is too limited |
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| 10:22.00 | Gallomimia | well since im having trouble getting any gui at all out of this box |
| 10:22.10 | Gallomimia | i'm gonna say.... no. |
| 10:22.34 | mjt | for a web interface you need web client anyway |
| 10:22.50 | mjt | which sorta requires gui and stuff |
| 10:22.56 | Gallomimia | obviously i'd be using a web client on a different system |
| 10:23.07 | mjt | transgui works on different system |
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| 10:23.27 | mjt | it is a strange idea to run it on the same box |
| 10:24.13 | Gallomimia | alright final question. does it support adding torrents by dropping them in a directory? |
| 10:24.20 | mjt | yes |
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| 10:33.43 | bolt | where did gmailfs go? |
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| 10:41.45 | jelly | bolt: where all user-agreement violations do |
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| 10:43.52 | jelly | bolt: http://sr71.net/projects/gmailfs/ instead |
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| 10:53.48 | FreeMem | thanks to the one who told me to grep the dpkg log. That fixed that YaCY and all it's sub-deps. Now I wonder though whhat went horribly wrong. Anyway THANKS! |
| 10:54.57 | unkmar | I'm glad I reran my genisis.sh scripot. It is shoving in some packages that were ripped out during my attempts to repair my vlc. The vlc is still borked. :( |
| 10:55.24 | unkmar | s/scripot/script |
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| 11:01.11 | FreeMem | i had to do apt-get remove --purge on a Lot of items, but it's all good now |
| 11:01.22 | FreeMem | Rockin again |
| 11:03.45 | SVNDR | Would anybody be able to help me setup Quotas on my machine? |
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| 11:07.07 | debi-ann | I have been stumped trying to install Matlab from a cdrom. It appears that some included binary executable files will not run because I cant mount the cd with exec permission. Does anybody have any ideas on a work around? |
| 11:08.19 | FreeMem | almost had a heart attack rebuilddb command not found.. updatedb much better lol |
| 11:08.55 | FreeMem | I really need a new transmeta chip I can clone this. |
| 11:09.50 | FreeMem | then if 180+ megs wants to install on my ity bitty 512M chip it will laugh at it |
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| 11:11.32 | FreeMem | this would rock: apt-get install javasdk-6* <enter> Command line replies back: | get out of dodge #_ ;o) |
| 11:12.08 | FreeMem | how small can java be grinded down to? Single binary? |
| 11:12.48 | FreeMem | oh well . jafa free for now |
| 11:12.53 | FreeMem | peace all |
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| 11:17.08 | aegidos | hello, i did an echt->lenny upgrade, now the system is not able to boot up again |
| 11:17.30 | aegidos | after shutdown -r -t 60 1 my ssh session was closed and didn't get up again |
| 11:17.30 | aegidos | + |
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| 11:18.19 | sixyearsofdreams | @@ i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but booting aint 1 |
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| 11:18.22 | sixyearsofdreams | hehe i just had to sorry |
| 11:18.29 | sixyearsofdreams | um thats a rough issue |
| 11:18.57 | aegidos | i have an interesting /car/log/message output i will post on pastebin |
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| 11:19.27 | sixyearsofdreams | thats probably best, im in no situation to help you but posting log output would greatly help anyone else figure it out:) |
| 11:19.49 | aegidos | error after aptitude dist-upgrade : http://pastebin.com/dPKDQCyE |
| 11:20.20 | itchi | Hi all. Someone experienced with i7 (Sandy Bridge) and the Optimus (double GFX cards) in laptops? It seems to be there are different forks which support this |
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| 11:23.36 | Sickness\ | I've booted into the mini iso on my dedicated server using kvm but I can't seem to get past the 'detect disks' phase of the setup |
| 11:23.43 | Sickness\ | it simply won't recognize my drive |
| 11:23.57 | Sickness\ | I've tried manually selecting the generic drivers but no luck so far |
| 11:24.20 | Sickness\ | is there anything I could accomplish from the shell I have available in the setup? |
| 11:24.33 | aegidos | ah yeah i did my upgrade from etch to lenny on Linksys NSLU2 |
| 11:25.29 | itchi | Sickness\: I guess your controller isn't recognized |
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| 11:25.51 | Sickness\ | I'm having a feeling I picked the wrong mini iso |
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| 11:26.24 | Sickness\ | it was running deb squeeze fine before |
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| 11:26.52 | Sickness\ | but it was a custom distro from my provider |
| 11:26.58 | itchi | Sickness\: As last trick, personally i would try: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 11:27.28 | Sickness\ | thanks for the link, I'll have a look |
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| 11:27.36 | Sickness\ | but I doubt it has anything to do with the hw being too new :P |
| 11:28.01 | itchi | Ah, being to old?? :D |
| 11:28.04 | Sickness\ | yeah maybe |
| 11:28.09 | Sickness\ | it's a super cheap dedi afterall |
| 11:28.31 | Sickness\ | I'd dare say it's the cheapest you can find worldwide |
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| 11:29.07 | itchi | I guess they could support you then. After all Debian is the most "world wide" too :) |
| 11:29.21 | dutchfish | Sickness\, maybe you have used the business card iso instead of the netinstall? |
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| 11:29.35 | project2501a | freak. my dell presision 7500 refuses to boot in wheezy. it hangs up on udev going multi. any clues, pelase? |
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| 11:30.00 | Sickness\ | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ |
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| 11:30.02 | Sickness\ | I've used that one |
| 11:30.10 | project2501a | can't |
| 11:30.46 | project2501a | well,i i can. but the machine has 24GB of ram. so the i386 image is too little |
| 11:31.19 | project2501a | i went into single user mode and started /etc/init.d/udev . then it hangs up |
| 11:31.19 | itchi | Sickness\: Sorry i have no idea how that would go with KVM |
| 11:31.29 | dutchfish | Sickness\, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 11:31.51 | Sickness\ | I installed grub, manually loaded the kernel, init, etc booted into the setup |
| 11:31.54 | Sickness\ | thats basically it |
| 11:31.57 | dutchfish | Sickness\, its on .3 already |
| 11:32.27 | itchi | dutchfish: Are you Dutch btw? |
| 11:32.34 | Sickness\ | hm |
| 11:32.43 | Sickness\ | so you guys suggest I try a different img? |
| 11:32.47 | Sickness\ | guess it's worth a try |
| 11:32.52 | dutchfish | itchi, ja ;) |
| 11:32.56 | Sickness\ | but this one was already an allnighter so I'm off to bed |
| 11:32.59 | Sickness\ | also dutch btw |
| 11:33.00 | itchi | dutchfish: Hi neighbor :) |
| 11:33.09 | itchi | .be here ;) |
| 11:33.13 | Sickness\ | and this time is absurd I tell ya |
| 11:33.14 | dutchfish | waves ti itchi |
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| 11:34.38 | Gallomimia | ummmm does KVM have a disk configured for the virtual machine you're trying to install upon |
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| 11:35.13 | Sickness\ | yeah I had the option to boot from my hd |
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| 11:35.30 | Sickness\ | if I didnt have access to that I wouldnt even have been able to load the setup |
| 11:35.46 | Sickness\ | but as soon as I'm in the setup it's gone |
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| 11:39.02 | raven | xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this? |
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| 11:42.31 | raven | xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this? |
| 11:43.17 | delby | hi. is there a dedicated channel for chromium (debian) support? |
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| 11:47.42 | raven | xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this? |
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| 11:50.32 | aegidos | maybe the NSLU2 doesn't work properly (no ping, no ssh) after reboot after aptitude dist-upgrade because of "onboard nic switched from eth0 to eth1 " |
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| 11:50.43 | aegidos | someone has experiences with this issue? |
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| 11:53.21 | nkuttler | aegidos: haven't used an nslu in years, but when i had one dist-upgrade wasn't supported |
| 11:53.38 | nkuttler | aegidos: i belive they have their dedicated support channel on freenode as well |
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| 11:57.03 | aegidos | thanks nkuttler, which hardware are you using now when moving away from nslu? |
| 11:57.43 | nkuttler | aegidos: nothing. wasn't that useful to me |
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| 11:58.19 | nkuttler | was thinking about a bubba.. but i guess if i ever want a home nas/server again i'll go with something more professional |
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| 12:00.27 | aegidos | okay and now you have a debian server operated by someone else? |
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| 12:01.07 | nkuttler | i manage several servers |
| 12:01.27 | rypervenche | It is my understanding that using GatewayPorts on SSH, I could directly access a reverse SSHed computer via my middleman, however I am unsure of the command that I would need to use. My middleman uses port 443 for SSH and I've reverse SSHed the remote tunnel to 7777. How could I access the remote computer without having to first log into my middle man then ssh into localhost port 7777? |
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| 12:03.11 | PerfDave | ,kernel |
| 12:03.12 | PerfDave | ,kernels |
| 12:03.13 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.6-1); wheezy: 3.1.0-1-686-pae (3.1.6-1); squeeze-backports: 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae (2.6.39-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-38); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-35~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-27) |
| 12:03.42 | PerfDave | Hmm, did Lenny have any supported 2.4 kernels, or do I have to go back to Etch for that? |
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| 12:03.47 | aegidos_ | okay i also thought about using an managed server from a provider, but it was cheaper to operate on my own :-D |
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| 12:04.52 | PerfDave | Oh, 2.4.27 was Sarge |
| 12:05.28 | jelly | not woody? |
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| 12:06.08 | gnude | hello, i need help in creating a resposity server and store packages there.... |
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| 12:07.07 | gnude | i create a .deb file, sign it at store it at the server. when adding the server to the sources.list and do an aptitude update i find the information, but they are not shown in aptitude |
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| 12:09.06 | jelly | rypervenche: next to enabling GatewayPorts, you need to be explicit in which IP interface the tunnel listener will be bound to. Eg. if you want Remote's ssh to be available on Middleman's 7777 on MiddlemanPublicIP, you'd run this on Remote: ssh -R MiddlemanPublicIP:7777:localhost:22 Middleman |
| 12:09.16 | dutchfish | gnude, did you use reprepro? |
| 12:09.38 | rypervenche | jelly: Ahhh, thank you |
| 12:09.55 | jelly | rypervenche: instead of just ssh -R 7777:localhost:22 Middleman, which now defaults to listening only on (Middleman's) localhost |
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| 12:10.32 | delby | hi. when i run dpkg -L , i dont get all the files. for example when i run 'dpkg -L chromium', i dont get the files in ~/.config/chromium. is there a way to list all files related to a package? |
| 12:10.36 | gnude | dutchfish: no. i want to create a very simple version on my own. i use the flash-plugin from adobe as .deb file, and want to put them in my repro. but.... it dont work at the moment. where is the description shown in aptitude? |
| 12:11.21 | jelly | delby: no, a package list shows only what's provided in the package itself. You'll have to peruse its documentation. |
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| 12:11.24 | lonzewos | Please! any ideas with trying to compile with gcc "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 " |
| 12:11.48 | dutchfish | gnude, you might want to delve in aprox then |
| 12:11.50 | delby | jelly: thanks |
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| 12:12.15 | rypervenche | jelly: So from my computer, can I use a normal command or will I need something like -L? |
| 12:12.18 | gnude | dutchfish: delve in aprox. i dont understand. what do you mean with it? (sorry, english is not my native language) |
| 12:12.54 | jelly | lonzewos: which Debian release are you using. Is libc6-dev installed? Please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l dpkg libc6 libc6-dev gcc gcc-4.4" |
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| 12:13.46 | gnude | dutchfish: i found this howto and work with it: http://michael.stapelberg.de/Artikel/Debian_Repository |
| 12:15.45 | dutchfish | gnude, seams also a bit old, i used reprepro because its supported up to sid still |
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| 12:16.18 | dutchfish | gnude, http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
| 12:16.21 | jelly | !tell lonzewos about paste |
| 12:16.22 | gnude | dutchfish. ok. but i have a server, and a deb file. now what is the way to put it there. |
| 12:16.32 | gnude | dutchfish: moment, i take a look on it! |
| 12:17.18 | lonzewos | please, wait |
| 12:17.19 | dutchfish | gnude, it needs some repo files so apt does know how to handle the repo, also security is involved, also is transparently done by reprepro on for example an apache2 server |
| 12:17.21 | lonzewos | i will do iy |
| 12:17.23 | lonzewos | it* |
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| 12:18.45 | dutchfish | jelly, no i am not at the usual frequencies with my new wlan router ;) |
| 12:18.54 | dutchfish | oops xpost |
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| 12:20.38 | rypervenche | jelly: I still can't seem to figure out the command to use on my local computer to access my remote computer. |
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| 12:20.55 | gnude | dutchfish: this are all tools that create the files i need? right? apt-ftparchive is there too. but when i understand right it makes only simple files without description. is the description a text file? can i make it with a editor? |
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| 12:21.45 | dutchfish | gnude, you can but reprepro does handle that transparently |
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| 12:21.58 | bolt | are there any free online storage services which are supported in debian and don't take up space by keeping a local copy of the files? |
| 12:22.08 | gnude | dutchfish: where can i find an example file to take a look at them? |
| 12:22.26 | dutchfish | gnude, also look at some debian repos how they are constructed as a learning excersize |
| 12:22.48 | bolt | forgot to mention i want to mount it with the mount command, not use a web interface or anything |
| 12:22.53 | gnude | dutchfish: ok. i will take a look at them.... be back later. |
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| 12:28.19 | anqxyr | Hello everyone. Can someone here give me an advice? |
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| 12:28.36 | anqxyr | I am looking for a file manager. I've been using Total Commander and XYplorer when I was on Windows, and Dolphin for the past 8 month since I moved to Kubuntu. Now I just installed Debian with Awesome WM, and unsure what to try. |
| 12:28.50 | gnude | anqxr: midnight commander |
| 12:28.58 | raven | xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this? |
| 12:29.01 | lonzewos | jelly: http://pastebin.com/MQwnGsYq |
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| 12:29.49 | ikonia | lonzewos: why are you asking in here if you are using Ubuntu ? |
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| 12:30.33 | lonzewos | ikonia, because in ubuntu nobody can't help me |
| 12:30.41 | ikonia | ok - so this channel supports Debian |
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| 12:31.22 | lonzewos | ikonia, i know but jelly is help me, so.. i'm nothing asking for you (: |
| 12:31.30 | ikonia | and if you hadn't just swore and stormed out of the channel, I would have helped you |
| 12:31.36 | raven | xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this? |
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| 12:33.54 | PerfDave | lonzewos: Maybe you should try asking in #apache, that's not Ubuntu either :) |
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| 12:35.04 | lonzewos | PerfDave, yeah! you are sure! but i'm nothing speaking with you :) okay babe!? |
| 12:35.21 | ikonia | winning..... |
| 12:37.27 | jelly | lonzewos: anyone can help, don't ask for a specific volunteer |
| 12:37.45 | jelly | ... that is, if you're a Debian user <g> |
| 12:38.04 | PerfDave | jelly: Some of us won't help non-Debian users on #debian and don't believe that others should do so. |
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| 12:38.22 | ikonia | especially with such a nice friendly attitude ;) |
| 12:38.29 | jelly | PerfDave: I'm agreeable with that |
| 12:38.33 | lonzewos | so fucking god! so newbies... |
| 12:38.47 | lonzewos | take care babes! (: |
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| 12:38.53 | jelly | lonzewos: please go to ##linux, where I will tell you to install build-essential |
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| 12:39.37 | ikonia | I love how he's asking for help - yet the people with the abilities to help are "newbies" |
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| 12:40.40 | jelly | shrug |
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| 12:55.35 | FriarLaurence | hi. i use debian testing. since the last dist-upgrade my xfce power manager doesnt start anymore and it doesnt work to enter standby mode. how can i fix this? |
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| 12:55.59 | Mogget | Is it just me that gets annoyed by that kind of behaviour? |
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| 12:57.50 | ompaul | FriarLaurence: check for a bug report, you may see a solution, if there is none please make one. |
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| 12:58.29 | PerfDave | FriarLaurence: Check the BTS, see if anybody else has reported it? Otherwise fix it and report the fix to the BTS :) |
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| 13:02.44 | lasers | I have "deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free" installed for xbmc. Now I'm using xbmc git. I want to get rid of this line. How do I tell if any packages related to that repo is installed? |
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| 13:04.21 | babilen | !tell lasers -about dmm list |
| 13:05.06 | lasers | babilen: Thank you. :) |
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| 13:15.49 | Caelum | so debian is putting libs into /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu instead of /usr/lib |
| 13:15.59 | Caelum | what is the best way to find this directory? |
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| 13:17.42 | marvilleke | Hi all |
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| 13:18.31 | marvilleke | what can i do in order to prevent that /etc/resolv.conf will be overwritten after an dhcp request ? |
| 13:18.57 | jelly | dpkg, tell marvilleke about override dns |
| 13:19.39 | jelly | marvilleke: you should have gotten a private message from the bot. |
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| 13:28.20 | marvilleke | Jelly thnxs for your quick reply, however i run openwag which does not have dhclient.conf but a stripped version of |
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| 13:29.01 | marvilleke | udhcpd.conf |
| 13:29.13 | marvilleke | thnxs anyway |
| 13:29.31 | jelly | marvilleke: I have no idea what openwag is! |
| 13:29.35 | jelly | !openwag |
| 13:29.44 | jelly | and neither does the bot. |
| 13:30.04 | skilz | Is there a gtk version of alsamixer? or something similar? |
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| 13:31.30 | marvilleke | a home brewn software version for the linksys wag200 |
| 13:32.05 | ghoti | So... Someone here accidentally did a "sudo chown -R www-data /" last night. I still have a non-root shell open on the box, and it's still serving up web pages, but obviously, lots of stuff doesn't work now -- including sudo, su, sshd, etc. Can anyone thing of a way to recover that doesn't involve rebooting? |
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| 13:32.25 | jelly | marvilleke: oh. Try asking in their channel, then. |
| 13:32.43 | jelly | ghoti: you mean, reinstalling |
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| 13:32.57 | marvilleke | all ready searching for openwag on irc.freenode.net :) |
| 13:33.17 | ghoti | jelly: no, rebooting in single user mode or from media would let me fix permissions. But I'm hoping I can regain root without the reboot, to avoid www downtime. |
| 13:33.30 | ghoti | s/permissions/ownership/ |
| 13:34.24 | jelly | ghoti: oh, you have no root account available? |
| 13:34.54 | jelly | ghoti: since all the setuid apps have lost their setuid bits, you're pretty much fucked |
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| 13:35.19 | jelly | unless you find a local root exploit for one of the active services |
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| 13:54.27 | fredddd | Should I allow my non-root account to have write access to /var/www (where my website is located)? |
| 13:54.33 | fredddd | Or should I place files in there as root? |
| 13:54.54 | fredddd | It is a single user server, sole purpose of the server is to be a web server. |
| 13:56.13 | abrotman | why not change teh DocumentRoot |
| 13:56.39 | Night_Elf | fredddd: To how I understand it, you have to think as if you're the server (www-data). If it can read the files it needs, and write if/where it needs, with the rest it's a matter of how you preffer and chose when it comes to security. |
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| 14:01.26 | Tuxist | hi |
| 14:01.28 | Tuxist | i have a boot problem with kernel 3.1.6 and debian squeeze |
| 14:01.28 | Tuxist | on a arm system |
| 14:01.40 | Tuxist | i got a kernel panic |
| 14:01.41 | Tuxist | system not syncing |
| 14:01.41 | Tuxist | but fs already mounted |
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| 14:07.27 | ChrisH | Tuxist: what kernel panic? Unable to mount rootfs or something else? |
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| 14:08.38 | neutrino__ | hi |
| 14:08.46 | gnude | hi |
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| 14:08.53 | neutrino__ | if i am using checkinstall how do i specify the version of a dependency? |
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| 14:09.59 | Tuxist | http://tuxist.de/files/pics/uImage_error1.png |
| 14:10.15 | neutrino__ | alternatively maybe using the same syntax as a deb control file would work too but i am not sure |
| 14:10.22 | neutrino__ | however i hadn't seen it |
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| 14:10.31 | neutrino__ | anyone know how that looks in control files? |
| 14:10.31 | gypsymauro | I've a debian machine with some services on..I feel it not so much responsive, I'm trying to figure out what makes the machine slow, how can I see? if i run for example htop I saw that there are some processes working but they are not so heavy, any hint? |
| 14:11.07 | Tuxist | ChrisH: i have already initd backported form heezy without success |
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| 14:11.27 | davidgul | hi |
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| 14:11.40 | Woet | does someone have an up to date benchmark with popular webservers? (apache, lighttpd, nginx, litespeed) |
| 14:11.44 | Woet | or will i have to make my own |
| 14:11.45 | davidgul | how can i lunch synaptic from a regular user ?? |
| 14:11.55 | Woet | davidgul: i've already had lunch, thanks |
| 14:12.06 | Tuxist | davidgul: sudo |
| 14:12.23 | thisthat | there are many articles comparing benchmarks but it would be best to test these services on the hardware you are using, since it could be different |
| 14:12.35 | Woet | thisthat: sounds like good reasoning, will do. thanks. |
| 14:12.36 | davidgul | I meen wihout opening the termnial |
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| 14:13.18 | Tuxist | kdesu |
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| 14:13.52 | davidgul | i try to install aptitude but it dont help |
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| 14:15.37 | malorie | how can I unselect stuff during installation, e.g. Graphical desktop environment, when I'm at 'Software selection'? |
| 14:16.23 | petemc | space bar ? |
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| 14:16.33 | malorie | nice! |
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| 14:18.14 | joltcan | I definitely could use a space bar right now |
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| 14:18.31 | Tuxist | taht i got from wireshark http://tuxist.de/files/debug3.txt |
| 14:18.34 | Tuxist | http://tuxist.de/files/debug4.txt |
| 14:18.38 | Tuxist | i use nfs |
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| 14:20.27 | rypervenche | malorie: sudo tasksel |
| 14:20.45 | Tuxist | i use uboot for boot |
| 14:21.21 | rypervenche | malorie: oh, during installation? the spacebar |
| 14:22.05 | elektryk | hi, i'm looking for help with wget. I need to check every 5 seconds if a website works (code 200) and if not then it should execute two commands. Is something like this possible to do? |
| 14:23.22 | jelly | elektryk: not with wget alone, you're going to do at least some scripting |
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| 14:24.27 | tabasko | howdy, is it wise idea to tell bind to connect on same host from two networks? host has two nics, 1Gb and 10gb I would like to comps with 10Gb prefer another network and comps without another |
| 14:24.30 | elektryk | ok, it can be a whole script which use wget. But i am begginer in bash (and linux) and i do'nt have any idea how to start |
| 14:24.44 | elektryk | jelly:^ |
| 14:24.51 | tabasko | but host name would be still same |
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| 14:29.29 | jelly | elektryk: if you want ot learn how to do it, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide night be of help, with focus on tests and conditionals to create an infinite while loop or something similar. |
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| 14:31.01 | jelly | elektryk: there is also a #bash channel |
| 14:31.18 | elektryk | jelly: thanks :) |
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| 14:34.05 | rypervenche | elektryk: I would think you would use lynx or curl for the code. |
| 14:34.25 | jelly | rypervenche: same thing |
| 14:34.34 | Tuxist | back |
| 14:34.47 | rypervenche | jelly: Ah o. |
| 14:34.47 | jelly | wget and curl cover similar functionality |
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| 14:35.32 | elektryk | rypervenche: in can be just an information if website works or not. I need to execute those commands when status is 404 |
| 14:35.54 | rypervenche | jelly: Oh, I hate to be a bother, but I wasn't able to find out the proper ssh command to SSH into my remote server using GatewayPorts on my middleman server. Do you know how I might be able to do that? |
| 14:36.19 | elektryk | the whole problem is because my fcgi stop working sometimes and i need to run it manualy, i want to do it automatically |
| 14:36.56 | elektryk | now i am looking how to get the status code from wget |
| 14:37.06 | jelly | elektryk: wget returns a non-zero exit status when it detects a 404, so it's usable in a statement like "if wget --spider http://example.org/some/path/; then echo everything is ok; else echo BAD THINGS HAPPENED; fi" |
| 14:37.09 | elektryk | it can be also an internal error id of wget |
| 14:37.22 | Tuxist | ChrisH: have you idea whats wrong ? |
| 14:37.25 | jelly | in particular, $? becomes 8 for a 404 |
| 14:37.59 | elektryk | jelly: --spider it is what i was loking for, thanks :) |
| 14:38.07 | jelly | rypervenche: -p to specify a nondefault port, like: ssh -p7777 middleman |
| 14:38.32 | jelly | elektryk: you will also want to check out --timeout and maybe some other stuff |
| 14:38.56 | rypervenche | jelly: I tried that, but no luck. I have my SSH server running on port 443 on my middleman, so I'm not sure how to specify both 7777 and 443 in the command. |
| 14:39.05 | jelly | rypervenche: no need to. |
| 14:39.37 | jelly | rypervenche: once you have the tunnel working, you don't have to deal with the ssh server of middleman |
| 14:40.44 | jelly | rypervenche: just make sure access to tcp/7777 is possible from the outside (do you need to set up NAT/port forwarding? Is the ISP blocking?) |
| 14:40.58 | neutrino__ | i figured it out, it's pkgname (=version) |
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| 14:42.17 | rypervenche | jelly: Oh, so I have to port forward 7777 too on my server then? |
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| 14:42.21 | Seppoz | hello, how do i remove a certain package from autostart? |
| 14:42.48 | Seppoz | i know i can manually remove them from the rc.x folders |
| 14:43.35 | petemc | if you want to do it manually you can use rm, otherwise you can use update-rc.d |
| 14:43.57 | ChrisH | Tuxist: no Idea whats going wrong here. |
| 14:44.23 | rypervenche | jelly: Thank you. I will try that when I get home from work. :) |
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| 14:48.20 | ChrisH | Tuxist: did you check google with the panic backtrace? Adding a few of them leaded to some hints. |
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| 14:49.05 | Tuxist | what have you search |
| 14:49.25 | Tuxist | kernel panic not syncing i got to much results |
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| 14:50.01 | ivanney | hi,does someone know how to set md5 encryption to the syslinux password? |
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| 14:53.17 | ChrisH | Tuxist: do_exit do_exit_group get_signal_to_deliver and so on |
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| 14:55.12 | Onryo | Where is xen-qemu-dm ? Xen is the must for serious vitalization. xen-linux-system is in place but I need to do IOMMU for a HVM domU |
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| 14:55.48 | FearOfMusic | what sort of minimal size requirements are there for a /boot partition.... i tried to make mine 256MB and when the installer attempted to install the kernel it ran out of space |
| 14:56.22 | ksk | but not on /boot (if you did not do some really crazy stuff) |
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| 14:56.35 | FearOfMusic | none of the other partitions were too small (only 8GB of total space) so i can only safely assume that it was /boot that is running out of space |
| 14:56.51 | ksk | /dev/sda1 228M 50M 167M 23% /boot |
| 14:56.56 | daemonkeeper | Onryo: And your point is? |
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| 14:57.42 | ksk | FearOfMusic: did you switch to the debug console(ctrl+alt+F#?) |
| 14:57.44 | mjt | 256Mb for /boot is more than enough, unless you plan to install 10 kernels. |
| 14:57.53 | ksk | there might be more information |
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| 14:58.35 | ChrisH | Mine is: /dev/md0 183M 57M 117M 33% /boot |
| 14:58.58 | jair | hello guys, I am working in a remote debian 6 squeeze system (32bit laptop) and I did an update dist-upgrade but got this message while upgrading about grub: http://paste.debian.net/150929 |
| 14:59.07 | Onryo | daemonkeeper I am following the http://wiki.debian.org/Xen and as you can see there "apt-get install xen-qemu-dm-4.0" should be in the repos |
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| 14:59.15 | FearOfMusic | ksk: yeah alt+f4 right? |
| 14:59.39 | jair | is there a way I can test if grub is correctly set up before restarting the computer and face with the surprise that the system will not come up because of grub? |
| 14:59.45 | daemonkeeper | Onryo: It is indeed. http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/xen-qemu-dm-4.0 |
| 14:59.56 | FearOfMusic | it just tells me that it was unable to install lgdt330x.ko: no spaceleft on device |
| 15:00.00 | FearOfMusic | hmm |
| 15:00.06 | FearOfMusic | i guess modules are put into /lib |
| 15:00.26 | mjt | Onryo: fwiw, not all the world is xen. That's just your point about xen being a "must" for virt, not arguing with the rest. |
| 15:00.46 | Onryo | daemonkeeper why am I not getting anything from apt then? I am on squeeze. |
| 15:00.48 | mjt | FearOfMusic: that's a module which goes to / |
| 15:00.56 | mjt | FearOfMusic: to /lib/modules/$kver/ |
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| 15:01.19 | mjt | FearOfMusic: besides, why do you need separate /boot ? |
| 15:01.22 | FearOfMusic | ksk: if i another virtual terminal and look at /target (which would be / for the new machine right?) it has 5.3G of space free |
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| 15:02.00 | FearOfMusic | mjt: i was going to use btrfs as the primary filesystem and i seem to remember it not being able to be used as a boot partition for some reason the last time i installed debian |
| 15:02.01 | mjt | FearOfMusic: one more possibility is that your /tmp is too small (needed to generate an initramfs) |
| 15:02.01 | Onryo | mjt if you want to do hw pass-though I think the only other solution is ESXi. Might be wrong there though. |
| 15:02.15 | mjt | Onryo: kvm supports it for quite some time |
| 15:02.34 | FearOfMusic | i just have a /boot, / and swap partition setup |
| 15:02.46 | FearOfMusic | spaces is limited tough... 8GB solid state |
| 15:03.22 | FearOfMusic | 256MB /boot, ~7.5GB /, and 256 swap |
| 15:03.50 | mjt | anyway, your log has all the info. we guessed 2 possible problems (installing kernel which goes to /lib/modules and generating initramfs which needs /tmp) -- which one is in your case can be found in logs |
| 15:04.16 | mjt | note that /tmp may be a separate tmpfs |
| 15:04.17 | daemonkeeper | Onryo: Well you are either not on Squeeze or your sources.list is incomplete. |
| 15:04.38 | mjt | ,versions xen-qemu-dm-4.0 |
| 15:04.40 | judd | Package: xen-qemu-dm-4.0 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.0.1-2 |
| 15:04.58 | mjt | ,versions xen-qemu-dm |
| 15:04.59 | judd | No package named 'xen-qemu-dm' was found in i386. |
| 15:05.03 | Tuxist | i found not very help things |
| 15:05.40 | mjt | jair: not any good way, but what's with your /dev/disk/by-id/ata-HTS726060M9AT00_MRH403M4GMEWJB symlink it complains about? |
| 15:06.43 | mjt | jair: from the first look it appears to be harmless, -- it just tries to find all disk drives on your system and there's one "extra name" of your hdd which is somehow missing - but the "main" name should be there. |
| 15:07.03 | FearOfMusic | hmm... the only error i have is the apt error, which doesnt tell me which device is full anyway |
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| 15:07.28 | mjt | FearOfMusic: apt? or update-initramfs or something like that? |
| 15:08.03 | mjt | FearOfMusic: can you show some extra lines from the log? |
| 15:08.06 | Onryo | daemonkeeper damn everything is so virtual I did not even realize this machine/slice is using the wheezy repos. Needed the 3.1x kernel for some funky stuff. |
| 15:08.11 | FearOfMusic | mjt: it doesnt make it to update-initramfs |
| 15:08.34 | daemonkeeper | Onryo: Wellm install Xen 4.1. It includes qemu-dm. |
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| 15:08.59 | jair | mjt: correct, thank you for taking the time |
| 15:09.00 | Onryo | daemonkeeper woot =) |
| 15:09.02 | abrotman | wonders if there's a way to 'fix' memory fragmentation without restarting daemons .. |
| 15:09.19 | jair | mjt: I am as we speak in the system controlling it using teamviewer |
| 15:09.46 | mjt | FearOfMusic: well, a wild guess, but how about df -i ? |
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| 15:10.13 | mjt | FearOfMusic: besides, btrfs does not handle "out of space" condition anyway, so it can't realistically return that error at all :) |
| 15:10.30 | gnude | i use jfs |
| 15:10.32 | gnude | fast |
| 15:10.33 | gnude | stable |
| 15:10.34 | jair | mjt: so the error when I was doing "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" showed that in a message about upgrading grub I guess |
| 15:10.36 | gnude | very nice |
| 15:10.45 | mjt | jair: yes exactly |
| 15:10.59 | jair | but is there a way I can try to verify that I have everything in place in grub? |
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| 15:11.27 | FearOfMusic | mjt: thats why i came here... df -h doesnt show that anything except /cdrom is full |
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| 15:11.32 | mjt | gnude: every fs has its bad and good sides. For jfs it is, for one, abysmal performance with heavily hardlinked lots of small files |
| 15:11.34 | jair | mjt: what is the file where squeeze put and reads grub in the latest version 6.0.3 |
| 15:11.52 | jair | mjt: I was upgrading the system from 6.0.1 to 6.0.3 |
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| 15:12.06 | FearOfMusic | i was figuring that it was from downloading packages to install but there seems to be almost no space being used up |
| 15:12.20 | mjt | jair: it is not a file at all, it is "in between" your partitions somewhere |
| 15:12.46 | jair | mjt: I am sure there is some command I can run to probe or test grub, or at least a file I can take a look to compare with other grub files in other squeeze versions I have in my lab |
| 15:12.48 | mjt | jair: if it's installed into mbr, it actually puts itself in first 63 sectors |
| 15:13.22 | mjt | jair: no, the stage which it tried to update does not have any files assotiated with it |
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| 15:13.43 | mjt | jair: next configuration is in /boot/grub |
| 15:13.46 | jair | mjt: ohhh not even trying to write something to the grub configuration file? |
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| 15:14.28 | jair | mjt: let me take a look at that file and compare it with my other debian squeeze system, there will not be difference in this file froma system 32 bit or 64 corrent? |
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| 15:15.14 | mjt | jair: there are 2 stages (at least) of grub loading. I don't remember all the details, basically, it reads its first stage together with the filesystem driver AND the information where (in which disk/partition) the main config file is located. For that to work right, it must know which drive is bootable. THat's where it produced that error |
| 15:15.27 | blup_ | im having trouble sending email from my server to my domain.. A record points to server, MX record to another mail service, but server(postfix) keeps trying to send it to itself (since there's a virtual domain with the domain name). how is this usually handled? |
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| 15:16.38 | PerfDave | blup_: Is postfix configured to accept mail for that domain? |
| 15:16.51 | zaltekk | is there any way i can open a new instance of chromium? |
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| 15:17.06 | zaltekk | i want to open a new instance because i want to use a proxy in one instance and no proxy in another |
| 15:17.08 | mjt | zaltekk: tried -no-remote command-line switch? |
| 15:17.26 | mjt | (that's firefox swithc dunno if it works in chromium) |
| 15:17.39 | zaltekk | didn't :/ |
| 15:18.11 | mjt | but i highly doubt it will work anyway - since you can't share the same profile between two instances anyway |
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| 15:18.22 | zaltekk | i tried --temp-profile too |
| 15:18.24 | zaltekk | didn't matter |
| 15:18.28 | jair | mjt: I see, I guess I will have to read about debian squeeze and the changes in grub and also I believe I am using the latest version of grub while using debian squeeze correct grub2? |
| 15:18.39 | blup_ | PerfDave: i imagine, i get 'mail for xxx loops back to myself'. i'd like to just send emails to my domain without the server looking at itself for receiving them. |
| 15:19.03 | blup_ | ...inception comes to mind |
| 15:19.12 | mjt | jair: that's not about changes in squeeze or debian, its about grub itself. yes it is grub2 |
| 15:19.29 | zaltekk | mjt: ah, i managed to trick it |
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| 15:19.37 | jair | mjt: I just checked it indeed is version 2 |
| 15:19.38 | zaltekk | mkdir chromiumtmp |
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| 15:19.50 | zaltekk | HOME=chromiumtmp chromium --proxy-server=blah |
| 15:19.57 | zaltekk | and it didn't attach to the old one |
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| 15:20.25 | zaltekk | which makes it surprising that the temp profile thing didn't work |
| 15:20.35 | mjt | zaltekk: for $HOME i suggest using absolute paths not relative. fwiw. |
| 15:20.39 | imMute | could someone help me with a complex apt configuation problem? |
| 15:21.02 | zaltekk | mjt: eh, no big deal. just need to visist a single intranet page then i'm deleting the dir |
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| 15:21.33 | mjt | blup_: that error happens when postfix does not know what to do with email - the MX record points to it but the domain is not recognized as local. |
| 15:21.36 | PerfDave | blup_: You probably need to tell postfix not to accept mail for that domain. |
| 15:22.01 | jair | mjt: I checked the disk in the disk utility tool of debian and shows that is healthy and I have plenty of space.so I am worndering why that error came out and why, will tell me that the system may not boot correctly if I continue with the dist-upgrade since the grub installation or probbe or update did not find that disk... |
| 15:22.02 | mjt | blup_: and there are LOTS of reference to that error in google |
| 15:22.04 | blup_ | PerfDave: that's what id like to do, but how? |
| 15:22.17 | PerfDave | blup_: No idea, I don't use Postfix. |
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| 15:22.47 | jair | mjt: I was checking the disk information make sure the id is the same, I haven't change the HD or anything like that... |
| 15:23.00 | mjt | jair: that has nothing to do with "unhealthy" of your drives in any way. the original issue is the problem with that alias it complained about, -- check where that symlink points to |
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| 15:24.00 | jelly | blup_: these kinds of questions are best asked in #postfix. Prepare pastebins of your "postconf -n" and relevant mail.log snippets (with some context, say 20ish lines) in advance. |
| 15:25.17 | jelly | blup_: do NOT munge your domain/ip details unless you absolutely have to |
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| 15:26.39 | jair | mjt: how can I check that? :( the symlink? ... |
| 15:26.51 | mjt | jair: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ata-HTS726060M9AT00_MRH403M4GMEWJB |
| 15:27.39 | jhutchins_wk | afik the only time postfix even asks a DNS server for an MX record is if it's an unknown domain and there's no smarthost configured. |
| 15:28.08 | imMute | well actually, is there a way to tell apt-get to [reinstall / upgrade to] whatever version is in a specific distribution, no matter what version is installed (even if installed is higher). Oh and it has to be done with an upgrade command (listing out individual packages is too time consuming) |
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| 15:28.54 | jair | mjt: ok hold on please |
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| 15:30.52 | jhutchins_wk | jair: What you need to do is to have a backup boot medium that will let you access the system and repair grub if necessary. Then you test grub by rebooting. There really isn't a practical way to test it otherwise, or to even display the menu. |
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| 15:31.34 | jhutchins_wk | In general though there are no significant changes to grub2 since squeeze was released. |
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| 15:33.35 | ghoti | jelly: ya, I guess your suggestion is the best option - search for a root exploit. :( Luckily, this box hasn't been updated in a little while... Thanks. |
| 15:33.49 | jair | mjt: http://paste.debian.net/150940 looks like line #1 and 2 shows the current symbolic link and the lines #3 and 4 shows the older symbolic link that does not point to anything currently... |
| 15:34.24 | yann2 | hello... I've got a homemade APT repository in my company... sadly I've inherited it, and am not sure how it works. I have a .deb file and am looking to add it to the repository. I read I need a package.dsc file - which isn't distributed with the package I have. Any idea what my options are? |
| 15:35.00 | mjt | jair: you just have a dangling symlink in there. remove it and be done with it. the error message from grub in this case is harmless. |
| 15:35.10 | bayar | hello all. i whant to find the most used files on my disk. some one have an idea for that? |
| 15:35.11 | jair | jhutchins_wk: did you see the error message in the paste page? it may be ok because there is another symbolic link pointing to the correct drive. |
| 15:35.13 | mjt | jair: er, ignore that :) |
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| 15:35.52 | jair | mjt: so I should be able to remove that symbolic link just same command but rm? |
| 15:36.13 | mjt | jair: anyway, the error is harmless, it'd be interesting to know why it wants to access that file (which is not there), but that's another issue |
| 15:36.41 | jair | jhutchins_wk: also I pasted a second info about the correct and symlinc the system was complaining about |
| 15:36.42 | mjt | jair: there's no symlink to remove afics. do a full listing of that directory please. |
| 15:36.58 | mjt | jair: it found your main disk, which is all that was needed. |
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| 15:37.56 | jair | mjt: alright let me go there and list everything in the "/dev/disk/by-id/" directory |
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| 15:41.30 | jair | mjt: and I this point I understand, debian update found the disk I just displayed but when was also looking for that symbolic link it complained saying this could not be done (daaahhh since the sym link does not point to anything) but here is the full listing: http://paste.debian.net/150942 |
| 15:42.28 | jair | jhutchins_wk: is there a good tutorial somewhere explaining what you just recommended me to so? I think it is a good idea to have a recovery disk in case grub someday gets corrupted or does not run well. |
| 15:42.53 | mjt | so, it - for some reason - tried to find device MRH403M4GMEWJB in there, which is not there. I dunno why. |
| 15:43.07 | Bluesky | Hello everyone |
| 15:43.18 | mjt | did you have two sata disks in that machine? |
| 15:43.49 | mjt | of the same model but different serial number |
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| 15:45.27 | mjt | um, slightly different model actually -- HTS726060M9AT00 vs HTS541080G9AT00 |
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| 15:46.21 | mjt | the former is 60gb, the latter is 80gb |
| 15:46.23 | jair | mjt: maybe I did sometime, it is possible that I had an external drive plugged into it at the time I did some dist-upgrade before so it registered as one of the drives possibly? |
| 15:46.37 | mjt | no |
| 15:46.41 | jair | or I did change the drives before it is possible |
| 15:46.47 | mjt | yes |
| 15:46.52 | faissal | hi there, can someone help please. i am plugin my external hard drive via usb, its a 1TB drive with an ntfs partition. but when i plug it i get an error message and i cannot access my files : http://paste.debian.net/150943/ --- any help would be greatly appreciated |
| 15:47.17 | mjt | jair: take a look at /boot/grub directory - all files in there, search for HTS726060M9AT00 in there |
| 15:47.31 | mjt | jair: fgrep -r HTS726060M9AT00 /boot/grub |
| 15:47.32 | jair | mjt: ok hold on please |
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| 15:48.11 | aegidos | for me look up !goal |
| 15:48.14 | aegidos | !goal |
| 15:48.14 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 15:48.18 | mjt | jair: and do the same for your current drive |
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| 15:49.00 | jair | mjt: ok |
| 15:49.49 | faissal | has anyone got a clue please |
| 15:49.50 | faissal | ?? |
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| 15:50.17 | mjt | jair: my guess is that when you installed grub the first time it recorded the identification of the drive it was installed to, in some of its config files (I don't use grub so i don't know the details here). And now when you upgrade it, it tries to check if that drive is still present. but it should update its config by now to include only your current drive. |
| 15:50.51 | mjt | faissal: you need more clue than you already got? |
| 15:51.32 | mjt | faissal: but anyway, do you actually have ntfs support installed? |
| 15:52.00 | jair | mjt: this is what I got, it is OK I did not received any input in my current drive? http://paste.debian.net/150945 |
| 15:52.07 | faissal | mjt: how do i know that ? sorry i installed debian 2 days ago ! |
| 15:52.28 | mjt | jair: here we go. |
| 15:52.46 | jair | is a little confuse :( |
| 15:52.58 | mjt | jair: change that line in device.map to list your actual device. and remove other stuff if exists there |
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| 15:53.23 | mjt | jair: and to be safe, re-install grub |
| 15:53.29 | faissal | mjt : got it, i installed my distrib via usb stick and therefore i got a line on fstab that says : /dev/sdb1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 15:53.37 | faissal | mjt : thx for the help tho |
| 15:53.46 | jair | mjt: I think that will be the right move ;) |
| 15:53.47 | mjt | faissal: that's a good one really |
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| 15:54.15 | mjt | faissal: i mean, good you found that one. just remove that line completely. |
| 15:54.18 | jair | mjt: will do the changes now hold on please |
| 15:55.26 | faissal | mjt : thx, but about what u said earlier, how do i know if i got ntfs support, doesnt debian support ntfs str8 outta the box |
| 15:55.28 | faissal | ? |
| 15:55.28 | mjt | jair: i'm not sure what grub will do in case of wrong device.map file like this (it is used ONLY during grub-install time, not during bootup), but my guess is that it will just ignore that file/entry and continue with your only drive (/dev/sda) being hd0 |
| 15:55.40 | mjt | faissal: ntfs-3g package |
| 15:55.46 | faissal | mjt : thx |
| 15:55.58 | BlaDe__ | hi guys.. I have a file in my directory which is " ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped" but when I try to ./file it says no such file/directory .... why is this? I did set +x on it and I own the file |
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| 15:56.11 | mjt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.13 | faissal | mjt : thx i can access my files now ;) Cheers !!!! |
| 15:56.15 | mjt | faissal: it may be installed may be not, dependoing on what install type you've choosen |
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| 15:56.32 | faissal | mjt : it wasnt installed |
| 15:56.41 | mjt | BlaDe__: ldd ./file |
| 15:57.00 | BlaDe__ | mjt: not a dynamic executable |
| 15:57.03 | mjt | BlaDe__: but most likely cause is missing interpreter |
| 15:57.11 | BlaDe__ | it's the ventrilo_srv from their website |
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| 15:58.04 | mjt | BlaDe__: and you have 64bit system, rigth? |
| 15:58.07 | jair | mjt: I agree with you in correcting that line and running grub install or grub update or upfdate grub I am not sure what is the command to install it and if I get a successfull message I should be good and got rid of that error for the future |
| 15:58.11 | BlaDe__ | Linux spooshi 2.6.32-37-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Fri Dec 2 20:32:42 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 15:58.12 | BlaDe__ | damn.. yeah |
| 15:58.35 | jair | mjt: the question I have is where is the file that contains that line I was looking at grub.cfg and it is not there |
| 15:58.39 | BlaDe__ | mjt: the only 64bit edition they offer is: Solaris SPARC - 64bit (Version 3.0.3) ---- will that work? |
| 15:58.43 | mjt | BlaDe__: no, not that one. it's the kernel. but anyway. for i386 executables you need /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 15:58.57 | mjt | BlaDe__: and that's the file it complains about (no such file or directory) |
| 15:59.05 | BlaDe__ | ok, yeah I don't have that mjt - where do I get it? |
| 15:59.19 | mjt | jair: device.map is different file ;) |
| 15:59.41 | mjt | !lib32 |
| 15:59.43 | jair | mjt: ohhh ok I saw it above in the previous chat sorry |
| 15:59.45 | mjt | um |
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| 16:00.37 | mjt | BlaDe__: 64bit debian system contains support for 32bit executables but i don't remember which package(s) is that |
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| 16:00.57 | mjt | (i still run 32bit userspace and 64bit kernel) |
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| 16:01.08 | jair | mjt: done, now I think what needs to be done next is install grub |
| 16:01.30 | jair | mjt: can I try to do that while I am in the system? |
| 16:01.51 | mjt | jair: you can take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst to see what it does, or just --reinstall grub-pc |
| 16:02.12 | mjt | jair: sorry i don't use grub so don't know how to install it :) |
| 16:02.15 | jair | mjt: let me check because I really want to understand what it does |
| 16:02.34 | jair | mjt: I think it is as simple as grub-install and the sda |
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| 16:02.45 | jhutchins_wk | jair: you can do grub-install to write the bootloader to the MBR, and update-grub to detect other OSs. |
| 16:02.47 | jair | mjt: but I will check the files you just mentioned |
| 16:02.49 | mjt | jair: must not be sda, but hd0 |
| 16:03.07 | jair | mjt: you might be correct :) |
| 16:03.16 | jair | jhutchins_wk: that sounds right |
| 16:03.17 | mjt | update-grub populates grub.cfg which is already correct |
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| 16:03.34 | mjt | but grub-install is the missing (potentially) part |
| 16:03.41 | jair | mjt: exactly let me check the file see if it confirms what I will be doing is correct |
| 16:03.44 | X4Fly | hi there |
| 16:03.45 | X4Fly | could anybody help me to resolve this aptitude issue? I got some dependencies whil installing a package, but do not know how to solve...http://paste.debian.net/150947 |
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| 16:04.12 | mjt | X4Fly: can you re-run it with LANG=C please? |
| 16:04.43 | mjt | (will sudo pass $LANG to the child process it spawns?) |
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| 16:05.33 | X4Fly | mjt: I do not understand.... |
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| 16:06.01 | X4Fly | mjt, you mean the pastebin posting, right? |
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| 16:06.17 | mjt | i don't either - i can't read german |
| 16:06.22 | mjt | yeah |
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| 16:06.54 | mjt | X4Fly: most likely like this: LANG=C sudo aptitude... |
| 16:07.10 | mjt | ie, prepend "LANG=C " to your command line |
| 16:07.17 | jair | mjt: looks like that postinst does a check for the device, also checks the version of grub and install or reinstall grub for updates purposes is a long script |
| 16:07.45 | jair | jhutchins_wk: if I want to do both, I do grub-install hd0? |
| 16:08.00 | mjt | jair: no doubt, messing up with the bootloader has to be done very carefully |
| 16:08.08 | jair | jhutchins_wk: I am assuming you use grub2? |
| 16:08.49 | jair | mjt: I am asking jhutchins_wk if he is familiar with grub2 so I can do the reinstall and update make sure everything is done properly |
| 16:08.49 | mjt | !ddpo |
| 16:08.58 | mjt | damn |
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| 16:11.38 | jair | mjt: looks like I need to do this while running a live cd or in some other init level :( http://www.securitronlinux.com/uncategorized/reinstalling-grub2-bootloader-in-debian-6-0/ |
| 16:11.48 | mintux | the ssh is disabled in our network . but I can use a toonel (java proxy software ) it's my output setting to use this proxy http://www.img4up.com/up2/25713373976114465858.png my question is: is it possible to set this proxy on my ssh that the ssh use this channel to connect ? something like hhtp_port in export ? |
| 16:11.58 | jair | mjt: maybe not like now remotely via teamviewer... |
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| 16:12.14 | mjt | jair: no, that thing is when you can't boot your original system |
| 16:12.53 | mjt | jair: while IN the system alredy, just grub-install /dev/sda. but wait... |
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| 16:13.01 | jair | mjt: well it is explaining how to reinstall grub2 and the update grub? |
| 16:13.08 | jair | mjt: ok |
| 16:13.22 | gasull | mintux: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/sshproxy.html |
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| 16:13.45 | mjt | jair: the thing is: grub can be installed into mbr (sda, hd0), or into a (linux) partition. if you have, say, windows installed on this system it is a bad idea to install grub into mbr. |
| 16:13.50 | X4Fly | mjt, this does not work. the output is still german |
| 16:14.04 | mjt | X4Fly: in that case I don't know how to pass LANG :( |
| 16:14.13 | jair | mjt: I don't have any other OS in this laptop |
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| 16:14.49 | jair | mjt: and I don't remember installing grub2 in a partition I think I selected the MBR |
| 16:15.33 | mjt | jair: so generally, you'd have to figure out where it HAS been installed, exactly, and reinstall it there. But in your situation just `grub-install /dev/sda' (or equivalent grub-install hd0 - which whill read that info from device.map which you just corrected, and come with the same sda again) will do the trick. |
| 16:15.36 | jair | mjt: we can run a command to verify but I am sure I did not configure a dual boot in this laptop |
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| 16:16.08 | jair | mjt: alright I will do it then |
| 16:16.12 | mjt | jair: i assume the long script in postinst does just that - figuring out the previous place |
| 16:16.12 | mintux | I found that I need this http://www.mtu.net/~engstrom/ssh-proxy.php |
| 16:16.30 | mjt | jair: aka grub-probe ;) |
| 16:16.40 | jair | wrost case I will need to guide someone over the phone to reboot using a live cd or travel there and do it myself :( |
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| 16:17.00 | jair | mjt: sounds like right to me |
| 16:17.06 | jhutchins_wk | jair: Yes, these commands are valid for both grub0 and grub2 |
| 16:17.10 | mjt | jair: and still, after seeing all this, I bet with 99.99% possibility that the whole thing is harmless and you already have properly configured/installed grub anyway :) |
| 16:17.33 | jair | mjt: let me try the command then and see if I failed or succeed |
| 16:17.42 | mjt | it will succeed |
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| 16:17.52 | jair | mjt: ;) optimistic :) |
| 16:17.53 | caravel | jair: do you have remote gui access ? |
| 16:18.07 | jair | caravel: I am accessing using teamviewer |
| 16:18.09 | jhutchins_wk | jair: The commands can be run from an ordinary session, but may also be run from a chroot or from single-user / rescue mode. |
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| 16:18.24 | jair | jhutchins_wk: cool ok sounds good |
| 16:18.30 | caravel | jair: I'm asking this because you could qemu to test if your boot process works |
| 16:18.41 | X4Fly | mjt, I made it ... http://paste.debian.net/150955 |
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| 16:19.11 | jair | caravel: that sounds interesting but this system is a physical laptop IBM running debian 6.0.3 32bit |
| 16:19.22 | caravel | jair: so ? |
| 16:19.42 | jair | caravel: obviously I am not understanding what quemu will be... :( |
| 16:19.44 | mjt | X4Fly: you've a mix of squeeze and wheezy on your system |
| 16:19.56 | jair | caravel: I thought you were talking about virtual machine |
| 16:20.01 | caravel | jair: unless I misunderstood your situation, you could use qemu to test booting your physical sda drive |
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| 16:20.09 | jair | caravel: are you familiar with teamviewer? |
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| 16:20.21 | caravel | jair: I suffered it in the past, yes :) |
| 16:20.24 | jair | caravel: I would like to test that |
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| 16:21.04 | mjt | X4Fly: libgnutls26 is installed from wheezy, with some new features (multiarch support) -- it breaks all packages using it which hasn't been updated. and you're trying to install your poker thing from squeeze, where it hasn't been updated for new libgnutls26. |
| 16:21.10 | caravel | jair: you should be able to do something like `qemu -hda /dev/sda -m 256 -vga std` |
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| 16:21.23 | jair | if I can test that now without loosing connectivity will be great if I may loose connection I will rather reinstall grub and update grub and never reboot unless I get to the location lol |
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| 16:21.47 | mjt | caravel: while that's a good test it wont test his real hw (eg, if he has more than one boot device etc) |
| 16:21.52 | jair | caravel: and where I will see the output of that command? |
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| 16:22.02 | mjt | caravel: also, when doing such tests, i STRONGLY recommend adding -snapshot |
| 16:22.26 | skilz | Is there some command to dim screen/turn off monitor? Im using a laptop |
| 16:22.35 | mjt | jair: it will come as an X window |
| 16:22.48 | eevo | skilz: with or without X? |
| 16:22.53 | X4Fly | mjt, what is the solution? downgrade to squeeze or better upgrade to wheezy? |
| 16:22.54 | caravel | jair: that would open a little window (a virtual machine) showing the boot process - you should not let it go beyond the grub display |
| 16:23.02 | skilz | eevo: With X, while in X |
| 16:23.08 | eevo | xset dpms force off |
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| 16:23.11 | mjt | X4Fly: you may try installing wheezy version (if such thing exists) |
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| 16:23.25 | skilz | eevo: So next time I move my mouse the screen comes back on |
| 16:23.26 | mjt | X4Fly: but generally, such a mix isn't supported at all |
| 16:23.37 | mjt | X4Fly: it isn't even supposed to work ; |
| 16:23.40 | caravel | jair: but it's just an idea, I suggest you listen to the advices from mjt and others in this matter indeed :) |
| 16:24.33 | eevo | skilz: yes |
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| 16:25.02 | jair | caravel: thank you so much for that this a test I will do in a local system to see how it works |
| 16:25.30 | jair | mjt: looking good ---> http://paste.debian.net/150957 |
| 16:25.48 | jair | jhutchins_wk: thank you so much for your information and help on re-installing grub |
| 16:25.58 | mjt | here you go |
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| 16:26.28 | btr | hello.. how do i reinstall all packages? (i discovered that my current mirror had broken packages) |
| 16:26.32 | jair | caravel: great idea about quemu, is there a way I can run that in another debian system local without interrupting anything big? or I will need to restart the system after? |
| 16:27.11 | jair | mjt: this was fun! and you got to see some of grub2 information and manipulation ;) |
| 16:27.37 | iman | I've got one side Debian VPS and another side is my client which is debian too, I want to connect my VPS but ssh has been closed in my country, is there any unique way or tools in debian to making connection ? |
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| 16:27.55 | jair | mjt: based on the results in the terminal I am not expecting any errors after restarting this laptop |
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| 16:28.20 | jhutchins_wk | btr: What mirror? |
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| 16:28.35 | caravel | jair: try yourself on your local system using eg a bootable usb key. That's usually why I use this technique |
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| 16:28.46 | jair | caravel: this can be done in a linux virtual machine as well to test or do I need to run a physical system? I have a virtual machine debian that I would like to do the test quemu on |
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| 16:29.13 | Innocentius | I have a question |
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| 16:29.45 | caravel | jair: you can boot any device that is accessible to your vm. If you use eg virtualbox you can let your guest access a usb stick for example |
| 16:30.11 | Innocentius | In openbox, how do i set so that my button (#FFFFFF BG / #000000 Border) doesn't get the title's color (#888888) |
| 16:30.17 | Innocentius | ? |
| 16:30.50 | jair | caravel: I have a debian virtual machine (I use vmware workstation :( ) but I am going to be working a lot in the short future with kvm linux for bigger virtual environment, and I have installed virtual box in some systems but since for work customers has been using vmware I haven't been able to convince them to use the alternative, I need to do some more work with virtualbox |
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| 16:31.21 | jair | caravel: but I am not understanding why do I need to access a device to run the test in the x window? |
| 16:31.36 | mjt | um, virtualbox != vmware :) |
| 16:31.47 | jair | caravel: I have the debian system booting right now and it is a virtual machine |
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| 16:31.49 | caravel | jair: using vbox you would need their (non-free) vbox addon. I have no fresh experience with vmware to guide you, sorry |
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| 16:32.07 | mjt | vbox isn't really good for production, but it is very easy to use toy on the desktop |
| 16:32.09 | forgotten | i have windows7 running on virtualbox under debian :D |
| 16:32.28 | jair | caravel: I have pretty good understanding in vmware, that's why I am asking why the need of a usb device? |
| 16:32.52 | caravel | jair: oh, I was just suggesting that you test qemu with a bootable usb stick, that's all |
| 16:32.57 | jair | mjt: I have done some things on it, I am actually running a windows machine in one of them |
| 16:33.32 | jair | caravel: ohh in a bootable stick (lice CD or live Debian CD) |
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| 16:33.43 | caravel | jair: yes, that would do also |
| 16:33.43 | jair | caravel: I have a virtual machine so I will test it on it now |
| 16:34.03 | mjt | hehe |
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| 16:34.10 | mjt | jair: what _is_ a virtual machine? :) |
| 16:34.56 | caravel | I have a question myself : I'm trying to merge the contents of a few local and ssh (lan) mounted volumes, despite heavy file/directory moves and renames. |
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| 16:35.09 | jair | mjt: a virtual machine is an image bootable with virtual hardware HD, Memroy, CPU, Network and others simulated in a extra layer running in your physical system |
| 16:35.14 | Night_Elf | A set of concepts and definitions on how is memory, cpu cycles, etc.. used. :p |
| 16:35.23 | mjt | jair: so the only real thing in there is the disk image |
| 16:35.28 | caravel | [...] I'm trying to consolidate a "master" directory tree on some of these volumes, and free the others (so I can low-level format them, disk issues) |
| 16:35.33 | jair | mjt: because of all your help I am willing to let you access my lab and see how I run virtual machines |
| 16:35.37 | caravel | [...] Rsync still doesn't seem manage such renames, how would you do that ? |
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| 16:36.24 | jair | mjt: is basically like running a deb package in debian, totally software base, does not have access directly to your physical components in the machine |
| 16:36.28 | mjt | jair: what caravel suggested you is to run a virtual machine with the only disk attached to it being your real disk (/dev/sda) |
| 16:37.25 | jair | mjt: I am still not understanding why the need of the stick, I think what he was telling me is to run a live cd or live os booted from a memory stick. |
| 16:37.30 | mjt | jair: i know pretty well what a VM is (in all various flavours of this term), i questioned your knowlege - it is difficult to test booting a "new" disk in existing "virtual machine" when the only real think in that virtual machine is the disk, for which you have a replacement ;) |
| 16:38.08 | mjt | jair: no, not live cd, he suggested to run a VM with your REAL disk (/dev/sda) attached to it, to see if your REAL bootloader actually boots |
| 16:38.08 | jair | mjt: I like knowledge tests LOL |
| 16:38.21 | jair | mjt: ohhh ok |
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| 16:39.07 | jair | mjt: make sense now, I just did not know how the test were going to run. OK so if I am running the test in a virtual machine, can I do it using the (virtual /dev/sda) ? |
| 16:39.29 | mjt | qemu -hda /dev/sda -snapshot |
| 16:39.40 | mjt | or kvm (from qemu-kvm package) |
| 16:39.54 | mjt | but you don't really need that, once you know you reinstalled grub correctly |
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| 16:40.15 | mjt | (and sorry i cant say how to do the same with vbox) |
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| 16:40.35 | jair | mjt: I just wanted to understand how that what he is suggesting me to do works because can be handy for the future |
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| 16:40.50 | jair | mjt: that's ok I am using vmware anyway |
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| 16:41.55 | mjt | jair: for a virtual machine you need a disk to boot from (it may boot from network or other things but that's not relevant for this question). But you already have your real disk, whcih can be used as a virtual disk the same way as you can use any "image file" |
| 16:42.10 | caravel | jair: sorry well, I suggested that you run qemu in your debian VM to boot any bootable removable media first, so you get familiar with using it :) then indeed, on that remote linux host that you try to repair grug, you can use that technique to get more confidence about wether you have succeeded |
| 16:42.24 | caravel | grub* |
| 16:42.42 | mjt | jair: so kvm -hda /dev/sda starts a virtual machine with /dev/sda as its virtual disk, that's all. Add -snapshot to there just to be sure the virtual machine wont WRITE to that disk by a chance |
| 16:43.10 | caravel | ok, I'm letting mjt guide jair before I confuse anyone further :) |
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| 16:43.27 | jair | mjt: I am creating an snapshot for the vm in vmware |
| 16:43.41 | jair | mjt: that protects if something goes wrong I can revert and not issue |
| 16:43.42 | mjt | i maintain qemu-kvm package so i understand these things alittle. |
| 16:43.53 | jair | mjt: awesome ;) |
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| 16:44.33 | jair | think mjt is very modest ;) thank him again... |
| 16:45.01 | mjt | well, maintaining a package does not necessary mean understanding what it does :) |
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| 16:45.32 | jair | caravel: so I will add a physical usb to the virtual machine running debian in vmware and try the command for quemu |
| 16:45.42 | jair | mjt: hahaha :) |
| 16:45.53 | Night_Elf | I was also wondering, how well does qemu fare when/if compared to vmware, kvm, vbox? Currently I run a couple of vm-s via vbox. No big deal, just small things visible to our lan. I mean.. what would be a qemu interesting feature? |
| 16:45.53 | fredddd | Does anyone have any experience with rewrite rules / regex expressions? |
| 16:46.10 | fredddd | In lighttpd if it matters. |
| 16:46.11 | PerfDave | I thought qemu and kvm were the same things these days |
| 16:46.23 | mjt | yes its basically the same thing |
| 16:46.28 | Night_Elf | I do not know PerfDave. Correct me in that if I am wrong. |
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| 16:47.08 | Night_Elf | Aha. So basically what I read/know (never used) about kvm, is qemu actually. |
| 16:47.14 | mjt | qemu-kvm was (and still is) a fork of qemu to "port" it to current hw virt solutions (svm/vmx on x86) |
| 16:47.30 | mjt | now qemu-kvm has very few bits which are not "backported" to qemu |
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| 16:47.58 | mjt | ie, almost everything qemu-kvm had now present in qemu |
| 16:48.22 | jair | mjt: is quemu the virtualization component of KVM? |
| 16:48.32 | mjt | um. no |
| 16:48.42 | Night_Elf | Interesting. So what I would now need to start playing with kvm is a system with a virtualisation-capable cpu then. |
| 16:48.45 | mjt | qemu is the userspace part, so to say |
| 16:48.55 | mjt | kvm is the kernel module which acts as a hypervisor |
| 16:49.15 | mjt | note that qemu drives xen virtual machines (hvm) too |
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| 16:49.44 | mjt | it emulates the hardware part (network, disk, etc yadda), kvm gives it native CPU and memory. |
| 16:49.50 | jair | mjt: ok, ohh ok so quemu is another hypervisor like kvm but runs xen...? |
| 16:49.57 | mjt | lol no |
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| 16:50.17 | jair | I have heard about xen, quemu, and kvm |
| 16:50.26 | iluminator101_ | Failed to startup SSH session: Timeout connecting ??? |
| 16:50.37 | mjt | kvm is a hypervisor, qemu is device emulator which can use kvm to give its virtual machines native cpu and memory |
| 16:50.40 | jair | mjt: but I am kind of confuse of what each is and does in the linux OS environment |
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| 16:50.48 | technologov | If someone wants "easy" virtualization, with just few clicks away VirtualBox is the best idea. |
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| 16:50.54 | Night_Elf | iluminator101_: firewall ? |
| 16:51.01 | aegidos | !lenny->squeeze |
| 16:51.04 | mjt | yes, i mentioned that already - vbox is a very easy to use thing |
| 16:51.06 | jair | mjt: ohhhhh |
| 16:51.10 | aegidos | !squeeze |
| 16:51.11 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 6.0, released on 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a . Squeeze is the three-eyed space alien. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze and ask me about <install squeeze> <release notes> <lenny->squeeze>. Currently <6.0.3>. The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
| 16:51.23 | aegidos | sorry was for me, i need squeeze mirrors |
| 16:51.26 | PerfDave | qemu predates all of this in-kernel hardware virtualisation stuff by many many years. |
| 16:51.37 | jair | mjt: very nice |
| 16:51.52 | aegidos | !lenny->squeeze |
| 16:51.56 | mjt | aegidos: jfyi, you can /msg dpkg |
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| 16:52.01 | danols_work | do the Installing Debian GNU/Linux via the Internet |
| 16:52.11 | danols_work | have WPA support ? |
| 16:52.24 | mjt | no danols_work |
| 16:52.26 | danols_work | k |
| 16:52.26 | PerfDave | danols_work: Have you read the install guide? |
| 16:52.38 | danols_work | scanned |
| 16:52.49 | danols_work | it did say wpa not supported |
| 16:52.55 | danols_work | but I had the very small image downoaded |
| 16:52.59 | PerfDave | danols_work: Then that's your answer. |
| 16:53.18 | danols_work | sorry you say there is a way to do WPA install ? |
| 16:53.22 | danols_work | and it's in the guide ? |
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| 16:53.34 | PerfDave | danols_work: Read the install guide, it will answer your question. |
| 16:53.52 | aegidos | thx mjt |
| 16:54.31 | technologov | jair, u wanna move ur company from vmware to vbox ? (maybe I can help in technicals) |
| 16:55.23 | mjt | hm. after all that oracle stuff i'd not move to vbox :) |
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| 16:55.31 | Night_Elf | technologov: The hype says that vmware is way better than vbox. How far is that from reality ? |
| 16:55.41 | danols_work | If there is a problem with wireless and there is no other NIC you can use during the installation, it is still possible to install Debian GNU/Linux using a full CD-ROM or DVD image. Select the option to not configure a network and install using only the packages available from the CD/DVD. You can then install the driver and firmware you need after the installation is completed (after the reboot) and configure your network manually. |
| 16:55.52 | danols_work | any drive to have WPA support for future relases ? |
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| 16:56.32 | mjt | danols_work: it was tried, but it requires quite some software so i'm not sure it will be in next release |
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| 16:56.42 | danols_work | i see |
| 16:56.59 | technologov | Night_Elf, VMware is better, but not much. |
| 16:57.17 | technologov | Night_Elf, You can do most of the stuff in vbox. |
| 16:57.21 | mjt | danols_work: a friend of mine tried that at home with his wifi configured to require wpa, i suggested him to go to nearby caffee with free wifi :) |
| 16:57.28 | danols_work | anyone know that name of unbuntin soft ware win that lets you install it on usb disk ? |
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| 16:57.32 | danols_work | i can't seem to find it |
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| 16:57.53 | technologov | Night_Elf, just like MS Office is better than LibreOffice, but u can do 90% of the work in LibO |
| 16:57.58 | danols_work | mjt: i'll just walk my lazy ass to the router and plug in with the ethernet :) |
| 16:58.10 | mjt | that works too |
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| 16:58.35 | Night_Elf | technologov: I ask because if it were for virtualisation alone in a hardware to make it behave like many virtual ones, I don't think vmware justifies the cost of doing stuff better than vbox. |
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| 16:58.48 | danols_work | http://lifehacker.com/5042630/unetbootin-creates-usb+bootable-linux-the-easy-way |
| 16:58.49 | danols_work | found it |
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| 16:59.13 | jair | danols_work: I think you could do wep but not wpa |
| 16:59.25 | danols_work | you can do wep |
| 16:59.26 | danols_work | yes |
| 16:59.27 | technologov | mjt, vbox is OSS project (GPLed), so in case things go wrong, it can be forked later... |
| 16:59.35 | bfg | is there any reason why wicd won't find my router if i'm connected through ethernet? i can't seem to get an IP address (either with wicd or by dhclient -s routerip eth0). I could do it with dhclient a couple days ago, and as far as i can tell nothing has changed (except i've installed a lot of unrelated things) |
| 16:59.37 | technologov | mjt, so Oracle is a non-issue |
| 16:59.45 | mjt | dunno |
| 16:59.55 | jair | danols_work: you were thinking in installing debian with the minimum bootable usb or netinst for example and the rest via wifi correct? |
| 16:59.58 | technologov | GPL is a guarantee |
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| 17:00.03 | danols_work | yes |
| 17:00.11 | Night_Elf | technologov: What I want more info about is when it comes to blade setups. In an encasure of example 4 blades, have them behave like one single system, for whatever reason. They say vmware do that. We have been asked from management to consider such a setup. Hence my questions. |
| 17:00.13 | danols_work | i think I'll skip the full cd install donwload |
| 17:00.28 | danols_work | i'm only doing a console install with ssh server |
| 17:00.29 | mjt | technologov: gpl is a guarantee that the current code will remain open, but not that it will be maintained/developed |
| 17:01.01 | technologov | mjt, y, but in practise there are enough Linux and FBSD people to ensure it survives (gets updated) |
| 17:01.09 | jair | think this is a very interesting conversation :P |
| 17:01.17 | technologov | mjt, Windows, Mac OS X and Solaris ports have few ppl |
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| 17:01.40 | technologov | mjt, They will get an axe in case a fork actually happens. BSD and Linux ports will survive. |
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| 17:02.01 | mjt | well, hopefully :) |
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| 17:02.13 | mjt | ok, i see. fbsd is a good argument |
| 17:02.50 | technologov_afk | see ya |
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| 17:04.53 | mintux | I have http proxy worked on localhost and 2213 port (if I set on browser it worked) I want ssh use this proxy to connect . how can I do that ? |
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| 17:05.25 | jair | mjt: wow interesting |
| 17:05.31 | jair | mjt: ;) |
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| 17:24.01 | bfg | is there any reason why wicd won't find my router if i'm connected through ethernet? i can't seem to get an IP address (either with wicd or by dhclient -s routerip eth0). I could do it with dhclient a couple days ago, and as far as i can tell nothing has changed (except i've installed a lot of unrelated things) |
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| 17:26.50 | ivanney | hi, can someone tell me plz if there is any error in this cfg file (syslinux) which does not accept itĆ pass encryption http://pastebin.com/KhuRP7dN ? |
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| 17:28.21 | loop | bfg - have you tried pump |
| 17:28.30 | bfg | what is that? |
| 17:28.49 | loop | pump -i eth0 |
| 17:29.24 | jelly | bfg: it's just a different dhcp client |
| 17:29.45 | bfg | tries... |
| 17:29.49 | technologov_afk | mjt, so vbox has GPL argument |
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| 17:30.02 | technologov_afk | Night_Elf, nope, vbox can't unity 4 blades into one |
| 17:30.09 | bfg | jelly: not installed |
| 17:30.30 | loop | did you update apt after install |
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| 17:30.49 | bfg | i... did a lot of random upgrading... :( |
| 17:30.51 | loop | or no network at all |
| 17:31.28 | jhutchins_wk | I have http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/pdf/Installation_Guide/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-6-Installation_Guide-en-US.pdf but it assumes a GUI desktop. Is there a similar guide for console-only (remote ssh) setup? |
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| 17:31.54 | mintux | in my FCKing countery they block everything . I need to connect to my server I got toonel from Toonel.net it's give me a port like 2213 and it's http proxy . host=127.0.0.1 and port=2213 by default I need to ssh using that proxy to connect my server I use this document http://www.mtu.net/~engstrom/ssh-proxy.php my proxy software is http://www.img4up.com/up2/81911427716126300411.png and my config is http://www.img4up.com/up2/15982937128951030637.png and |
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| 17:32.58 | jhutchins_wk | Whops - sorry for rh question. |
| 17:33.13 | BlueBeret | hi, I upgraded gnome-power-manager to 3.2.1-2 on amd64 and there is no /usr/bin/gnome-power-manager binary anymore, leaving me unable to set my backlight without writing to /sys. does anyone know why this is so and how to fix it? |
| 17:34.05 | Night_Elf | technologov: I see. Just asking. I actually believe that is where vmware gets its money from. As I said, just plain virtualisation would not justify its price compared to what else is there: vbox/kvm/xen etc. Ehh.. |
| 17:34.41 | itchi | bfg: What release do you run? |
| 17:34.51 | itchi | Got issues with them in squeeze too i must admit |
| 17:34.57 | loop | bfg id try installing pump. ive experienced similar problems with dhclient |
| 17:35.24 | technologov | Night_Elf, VMware has a lot of _nice touches_ and _extra features_, that vbox lacks, but all of them are of limited interest to many users |
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| 17:35.40 | technologov | so vbox has millions of users in it's own right |
| 17:35.57 | forgotten | sure |
| 17:35.59 | bfg | itchi: i installed stable squeeze, then changed the sources.list file with the new repos and also the multimedia repo, added the non-free from the regular repos too |
| 17:36.07 | loop | you may also want to update your sources list before running an apt-update |
| 17:36.13 | technologov | Night_Elf, I do develop some extra features for vbox, to fill the gaps. |
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| 17:36.29 | bfg | but now i can't really connect at all... since ethernet is not working :| |
| 17:36.40 | itchi | bfg: And did you do the upgrade? |
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| 17:36.50 | bfg | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.06 | Night_Elf | technologov: Of course. I am a happy user of vbox so far. It does that little work I want it to do. A print server here, an internal lan nameserver there. I'm cool with it so far. |
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| 17:38.29 | itchi | bfg: yes |
| 17:39.33 | technologov | Night_Elf, recently I have developed automated Debian installs into VBox: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=46798&p=212690#p212690 |
| 17:39.34 | Night_Elf | technologov: One thing I found it was not that good at doing though, it was our atempt to have one and one only vm in the bare system. That would then run a server application custom to our company, and a mssql server. We did that for ease of backup and distaster recovery: replay the vm image somwehere else and we were set in emergency situations. |
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| 17:40.19 | bfg | itchi: i ran it, yes... and it downloaded like 400+ mb of stuff |
| 17:40.31 | Night_Elf | technologov: But it would crash. After like 2-3 days of work, it would crash with no warning. I never understood why. Maybe some hidden bug which emerged from the apparently high load or something. |
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| 17:40.44 | Night_Elf | technologov: let me check that link :) |
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| 17:41.09 | itchi | bfg: The point is if you have been migrated to wheezy or not :P |
| 17:41.10 | bfg | i now have two kernels on grub, one of which is not bootable (apparently -as a friend who's very knowledgeable guessed- it has to do with the video adapter drivers) |
| 17:41.32 | bfg | itchi: i have no idea... is that the kernel version? |
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| 17:41.51 | itchi | bfg: What's your kernel version Look with uname -a |
| 17:41.52 | technologov | Night_Elf, I also do a lot of other development for VBox, will may end up in Debian... (such as GNS3: http://forum.gns3.net/topic3262.html) |
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| 17:41.59 | loop | is it 2.6? |
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| 17:42.17 | bfg | 2.6-32-5 |
| 17:42.17 | ivanney | hi, can someone tell me plz if there is any error in this cfg file (syslinux) which does not accept itĆ pass encryption http://pastebin.com/KhuRP7dN ? |
| 17:42.40 | bfg | i also have a 3.x in grub, but i can't boot that as i already wrote |
| 17:42.44 | technologov | Night_Elf, plus I'm considering developing integrated small-server stack around VBox (using VBoxTool init scripts + phpvirtualbox) |
| 17:42.54 | Night_Elf | technologov: oh well. Now I know a nick to look for my petty little vbox problems when they arise :D |
| 17:42.59 | loop | yea i experienced something similar, installed pump and obtained |
| 17:43.47 | caravel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.52 | technologov | Night_Elf, As for Debian -- it is part of my standard VBox testing cycle, with results documented here: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25735 |
| 17:44.14 | technologov | It means that I constantly test VBox + Debian together. |
| 17:44.55 | Night_Elf | technologov: Very nice work. I know it would sound corky, but thank you for your efforts. |
| 17:45.19 | Night_Elf | or is the word 'corny' ? |
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| 17:46.03 | lalagirl | Hi everyone I have a question. Does Ubuntu use Debian? |
| 17:46.14 | PerfDave | lalagirl: Yes |
| 17:46.17 | Night_Elf | lalagirl: short answer. yes |
| 17:46.24 | lalagirl | But why?? |
| 17:46.25 | technologov | hmm... modified heavily |
| 17:46.34 | PerfDave | lalagirl: Because Debian is awesome |
| 17:46.39 | technologov | ha ha ^^ |
| 17:47.02 | technologov | Debian is pretty much the _biggest_ Linux distribution around. |
| 17:47.08 | technologov | That's why. |
| 17:47.14 | lalagirl | Then what's the difference between Ubuntu and Debian? |
| 17:47.15 | Night_Elf | lalagirl: and because it offloads a lot of work from them by not creating a new distro, but modifying a stable/awesome one. |
| 17:47.46 | PerfDave | lalagirl: Ubuntu forks from Debian Unstable, adds its own bugs, throws in some non-free software, takes a steaming dump on it and calls it a distro ;) |
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| 17:48.28 | Night_Elf | lalagirl: they do add polish and shine to the eye though. I can't deny that. |
| 17:48.38 | technologov | lalagirl, Ubuntu is more user-friendly (easier installer, non-free drivers, better hardware support, etc...), but Debian is more transparent and more tested and uses only Free Software |
| 17:48.43 | loop | yet they nixed the JVM lol |
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| 17:49.08 | technologov | lalagirl, It is more "offline" friendly. |
| 17:49.11 | PerfDave | lalagirl: What's the difference between Ubuntu and RedHat? At the end of the day they're just packaging the same software. |
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| 17:49.16 | Night_Elf | lalagirl: and do hide some decisions from the user, by replacing them with default-and-go |
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| 17:49.40 | lalagirl | Oh okay⊠Thanks for the info. |
| 17:49.50 | Night_Elf | technologov: is it? more offline friendly ? |
| 17:49.54 | PerfDave | technologov: "more user-friendly" is debatable :) |
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| 17:50.20 | technologov | offline friendly = u can download whole Debian set as 8 DVDs; No such thing for other distros. |
| 17:50.32 | technologov | For me it is a killer feature |
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| 17:51.01 | Night_Elf | technologov: aha. I thought that was a tag for ubuntu, not debian. My bad. |
| 17:51.04 | technologov | PerfDave, y, non-free firmware and software and better installer |
| 17:51.05 | ivanney | please, help me with my syslinux,please,please |
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| 17:51.37 | PerfDave | technologov: "better installer" is debatable, non-free stuff does not make something more user-friendly. |
| 17:52.41 | technologov | 'non-free' makes things more user-friendly and more stable. (gnash crashes on squeeze) -- plus I had to hunt firmware to get Intel wifi work in Debian, ... |
| 17:52.49 | technologov | But I respect the DFSG |
| 17:52.52 | Night_Elf | PerfDave: in a way it does. It takes away the need/effort to find the free/o.s. version, usually at the vendor of the anything-that-needs-non-free-stuff. |
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| 17:53.30 | PerfDave | Night_Elf: And introduces a whole load of buggy shit. |
| 17:53.45 | PerfDave | I've used Ubuntu and I've used Debian. I find Debian more user friendly. |
| 17:53.51 | PerfDave | And so do my non-geek users :) |
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| 17:54.19 | technologov | PerfDave, can u elaborate in which aspect Debian is more user-friendly than k/Ubuntu ? |
| 17:54.20 | Night_Elf | PerfDave: True that. I dislike that and avoid it. But if all were like you and technologov and all here, the world would be a MUCH better place. |
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| 17:54.49 | technologov | PerfDave, I just told u about non-firmware; This is some extra-work for freedom-lovers... |
| 17:54.59 | PerfDave | technologov: Less buggy, easier to change settings from stupid defaults, less random hangs/crashes, better support. |
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| 17:55.40 | technologov | ok. |
| 17:55.53 | dury | hi there |
| 17:55.56 | unreal-dude | imo ubuntu sux, and debian does not |
| 17:55.56 | technologov | hi |
| 17:55.58 | veryhappy | hey guys is there something what i could do that my pentium 3 turns off itself when i shutdown? i already tried acpi=force and installed apm |
| 17:55.59 | Night_Elf | Am off for the day. Be well everyone. |
| 17:56.29 | PerfDave | veryhappy: Might require BIOS support from the motherboard, or an ATX PSU, which might be missing from a P3 system... |
| 17:56.31 | dury | in my opinion ubuntu is for newbies and debian advancers |
| 17:56.42 | technologov | veryhappy, yea - switch nickname to 'verysad' |
| 17:56.47 | veryhappy | :D |
| 17:56.49 | veryhappy | LOL |
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| 17:57.00 | dury | I mean debian for advancers |
| 17:57.08 | technologov | "Advanced users" |
| 17:57.12 | veryhappy | PerfDave: it works normally |
| 17:57.19 | PerfDave | veryhappy: "normally"? |
| 17:57.26 | veryhappy | yea under windows |
| 17:57.36 | PerfDave | veryhappy: That's not normal! ;) |
| 17:57.41 | veryhappy | :D |
| 17:57.51 | veryhappy | nope, only missing drivers? :P |
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| 17:58.03 | veryhappy | that's what i guess at least |
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| 17:59.21 | veryhappy | sorry about the tongue |
| 17:59.29 | _ramo | hi |
| 17:59.35 | veryhappy | hi ramo |
| 17:59.35 | _ramo | i'm running an apache2 webserver on debian squeeze and started installing munin and munin-node , but how do i access the frontend of munin? |
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| 18:01.57 | eggman2001 | hello, could someone tell me why this command would give me a syntax error? 'bash < <(curl -s https://rvm.beginrescueend.com/install/rvm)' |
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| 18:02.15 | unreal-dude | _ramo this is a web interface? |
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| 18:04.00 | _ramo | unreal-dude: i thought it has one |
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| 18:04.21 | unreal-dude | well, im asking because i have no idea |
| 18:04.45 | unreal-dude | anyways, you can setup a virtual host in apache2 that will allow connections only from the localhost |
| 18:05.48 | unreal-dude | should be able to find the /etc/apache2/sites-available/default file with an example for the apache documentation |
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| 18:17.12 | jair | hello guys if I installed cups by default I should be able to access "localhost:631" correct? |
| 18:17.47 | jelly-home | jair: yes. |
| 18:18.08 | jelly-home | http://localhost:631/ ought to work from a browser |
| 18:18.10 | jair | jelly-home: what will be a reason for this to fail? |
| 18:18.26 | jelly-home | jair: what have you checked so far? |
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| 18:18.43 | jair | I am checking that cups is running and it is, but I can't access the web interface mngt |
| 18:19.03 | jair | jelly-home: I will show you, hold on |
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| 18:19.31 | jelly-home | jair: so there's a cupsd process running? Can you verify it's listening on *:631 or 127.0.0.1:631 with lsof? |
| 18:19.59 | jelly-home | jair: does "telnet localhost 631" connect? |
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| 18:22.19 | jair | jelly-home: what command specifically do I run to get the lsof result? |
| 18:22.35 | jair | jelly-home: I am checking telnet now as well |
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| 18:24.15 | jair | jelly-home: to check if is listening or not? |
| 18:24.55 | jelly-home | jair: sorry? |
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| 18:27.02 | jair | jelly-home: I am checking in google hold on please |
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| 18:31.18 | jair | jelly-home: something is defenitely not right on the system, telnet localhost 631 connection timeout |
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| 18:31.43 | jair | jelly-home: what could be the posible cause? do I need to check my hosts files? |
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| 18:32.18 | jelly-home | jair: sometimes, the lo interface doesn't even get up at system start |
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| 18:32.56 | jelly-home | jair: verify it's up and try an "ifup lo" if it isn't |
| 18:33.03 | jair | jelly-home: maybe is because I installed network-manager in this computer (sister's computer) so sh could change the ip address easier :( |
| 18:33.13 | jair | jelly-home: sounds good |
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| 18:33.35 | jair | jelly-home: but also what will be the command to check if a service is listing in certain port? |
| 18:34.22 | jelly-home | if it's running already, use lsof on its process |
| 18:34.43 | jair | jelly-home: lsof cups? |
| 18:34.49 | jelly-home | RTFM. |
| 18:35.07 | jair | jelly-home: I am trying to find it but I will RTFM. ;) |
| 18:35.22 | jair | jelly-home: I was trying to find it in google |
| 18:35.27 | jelly-home | I know you can do this on your own so I won't feed you the correct command. |
| 18:35.44 | jelly-home | no need for google, it's simple |
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| 18:36.06 | jelly-home | there's an option to give lsof a particular PID to look at |
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| 18:38.00 | jair | jelly-home: np, what I want you to help me with is: http://paste.debian.net/150979 |
| 18:38.14 | ojtimsen | jair: try a sudo netstat -tuanp and check if there is a listener on 631 |
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| 18:38.22 | jair | jelly-home: I am thinking the stupid "network-manager" gui is messing up the interefaces |
| 18:38.48 | jair | ojtimsen: so I can use lsof and netstat as well :) |
| 18:38.55 | jair | ojtimsen: thank you let me check that |
| 18:39.33 | jelly-home | jair: so what's on line 17? |
| 18:40.34 | jair | jelly-home: that is the wifi interface |
| 18:40.39 | ojtimsen | row 14 and row 17 are interesting as jelly-home mentioned |
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| 18:41.07 | jair | I am not sure why they are commented out... |
| 18:41.18 | jair | I wonder if this system has been compromised :( |
| 18:41.38 | ojtimsen | no - your thoguht about the network manager points in the correct direction I guess |
| 18:41.39 | jair | because I did not change anything of this before giving the latop to my sister |
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| 18:42.19 | jelly-home | jair: your command is complaining about line 17 of that config file. What's on line 17? |
| 18:42.30 | jair | ojtimsen: I am seriously thinking in getting rid of it. Or try to understand it and fix it, the issue is that I am right now working on this system remotely kms and kms away |
| 18:42.42 | jair | and the last thing I want is loose the temviewer connectivity |
| 18:42.59 | ojtimsen | does she use wifi or typically the wire? |
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| 18:43.35 | jair | ojtimsen: wired |
| 18:43.57 | ojtimsen | ok, so row 14 gets into focus :) |
| 18:44.13 | jair | jelly-home: I see what you are trying to do to make myself find and understand the issue :) thank you so much! let me vim interfaces and see line 17 |
| 18:44.48 | jair | jelly-home: you are awesome! hold on please |
| 18:45.02 | jair | ojtimsen: you too my friend thanks so much for the help |
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| 18:46.14 | jair | ojtimsen: that's probably why I get this: http://paste.debian.net/150982 |
| 18:46.32 | ojtimsen | no prob - does she sometimes switch between wireless and wired so that from time to time the link of each interface is down? because then the network manager sometimes add the # infront of the row |
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| 18:48.05 | jair | ojtimsen: nope, for now this computer will only be connected to wired, maybe last time when my sister was with me we were using wifi |
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| 18:48.13 | jair | ojtimsen: so that is probably why |
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| 18:50.17 | ojtimsen | ok, as netstat prints 631 is a cupsd listener |
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| 18:51.41 | _ramo | how can i remove package i previously installed? |
| 18:51.47 | _ramo | apt-get remove packagename? |
| 18:51.51 | technologov | y |
| 18:52.05 | jair | ojtimsen: ok that is good, I did an update on the file and backed up the original interfaces one ---> http://paste.debian.net/150985 |
| 18:52.29 | jair | ojtimsen: I should be able to restart the network without loosing connection or I will have to reconnect? |
| 18:52.37 | jair | ojtimsen: I may need to right :( |
| 18:52.58 | serjs | hi guys, maybe someone know, i want to rebuild raid0 to raid10, i'm using mdamd, it's possible to do? |
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| 18:53.35 | ojtimsen | serjs: in advance I would recommend to create a full backup of your files |
| 18:53.35 | jair | ojtimsen: I actually just brought up lo |
| 18:53.48 | jair | ojtimsen: I will check if I can access the cups |
| 18:54.16 | ojtimsen | jair: if there is a working DHHCP service on the eth0 wire a reboot should be no problem with this file |
| 18:54.23 | serjs | ojtimsen i made it allready :) as i know must to recreate array with mdadm, yes? |
| 18:54.46 | jair | I can actually run dhclient eth0 |
| 18:54.50 | technologov | How many hosts it requires to build Debian on some architecture? 1 mainframe for S390 port ? 1000 iPhones for ARM port ? |
| 18:54.57 | jair | now without restarting the network file correct? |
| 18:55.26 | ojtimsen | yair: if you do not want to use WLAN interface it is correct |
| 18:55.40 | rozie | technologov: all? debian machines are on public list on the internet |
| 18:56.07 | jair | ojtimsen: I can actually run dhclient eth0 now without restarting the network file correct? right I don't need want to use wifi, my sister does not move the laptop from her desk at all. |
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| 18:56.36 | jair | ojtimsen: she uses it as desktop replacement lol not too technology literate though, still using linux LOL :) |
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| 18:57.42 | ojtimsen | jair - you can do a reboot and afterwards she can startup the teamviewer session I guess and it should go - yes |
| 18:58.54 | NikLP | bit confused - http://wiki.debian.org/Shell says the default shell is bash, but when I log in or su as "not root" I get a $ prompt and ps shows "sh", am I missing something please? |
| 18:59.16 | jair | ojtimsen: awesome! works. I can see the cups mgnt tool |
| 18:59.25 | simonlnu | technologov: iirc buildd.debian.org covers this |
| 18:59.38 | jair | ojtimsen: thank you very much! I am very tempted to remove network manager... |
| 18:59.46 | ojtimsen | you already did it - the files you looked at were good |
| 18:59.49 | Rockj | NikLP: make sure when you su, you include su - to load all the env. variables. |
| 18:59.54 | technologov | I found this: http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi |
| 18:59.56 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, define "not root" - what user are you suing to? |
| 18:59.56 | mjt | NikLP: /bin/sh is a symlink, to /bin/bash. so by invoking /bin/sh you actually invoke bash. But bash behaves a bit differently when called as bash or as sh |
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| 19:00.15 | NikLP | Rockj: ok :) |
| 19:00.19 | Rockj | NikLP: that should make sure it read's the users's profile/env settings. |
| 19:00.22 | NikLP | thewanderer1: any other, really |
| 19:00.27 | jair | ojtimsen: I am talking about the package so it does not try to manage the interfaces again in the future |
| 19:00.40 | NikLP | but like just logging as any other user into ssh I get that $ prompt |
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| 19:01.02 | Rockj | and also as mjt says, /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash . |
| 19:01.03 | NikLP | mjt: I just checked and /bin/sh is symlinked to dash...? :/ |
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| 19:01.07 | ojtimsen | I meant that my effort to help you was quite low - just some patience :) |
| 19:01.07 | Rockj | NikLP: that's why you do su username - |
| 19:01.13 | Rockj | to load user's .bashrc etc |
| 19:01.15 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, and what does "getent passwd $that_user" return? does he have his shell set as /bin/sh? |
| 19:01.24 | NikLP | getenv? |
| 19:01.33 | thewanderer1 | no, getent |
| 19:01.35 | NikLP | oh |
| 19:01.38 | NikLP | didn't know it |
| 19:01.49 | mjt | NikLP: so it is not a default shell. but the $ prompt etc is set up in profile&Co, as Rockj pointed out already |
| 19:02.35 | jair | ojtimsen: :) I am now trying to figure out one more thing, I can ping her IP externally but I am sure that her router is blocking ssh port 22 inbound I like to use more cli than mouse and the freaking teamviewer when i don't it it so slow specially from north america to south america LOL |
| 19:02.59 | NikLP | thewanderer1: $ getent passwd admin -> admin:x:1001:1001::/home/admin:/bin/sh |
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| 19:03.19 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, there you go. their shell is /bin/sh. how the hell did you create that? |
| 19:03.32 | ojtimsen | serjs: you have 4 disks with same size/sectors? and 2 plugged in after backup? and now you want to move raid1 to raid10? |
| 19:03.39 | jair | ojtimsen: so I can ping the ip address, I try nmap and did not get much info, so I guess I will try to access the router interface if there is one, will check now |
| 19:04.00 | Morpheme | getent is so cool.. |
| 19:04.18 | ojtimsen | jair: to get IP of router - netstat -rn |
| 19:04.38 | NikLP | thewanderer1: erm. adduser admin? |
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| 19:05.28 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, adduser sets the shell to /bin/bash, unless you tell it to set it to /bin/sh explicitly (or have configured /etc/adduser.conf). are you on Debian? |
| 19:05.29 | Rockj | thewanderer1: could be a system user etc, like daemons etc doesn't require a full bash shell but only a sh shell. |
| 19:05.46 | Rockj | mjt: actually, /bin/bash is symlinked to /bin/dash in wheezy |
| 19:05.48 | NikLP | thewanderer1: debian squeeze certainly |
| 19:05.53 | Rockj | s/bash/sh/ |
| 19:06.03 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, you have added it in a strange way - check /etc/adduser.conf |
| 19:06.07 | NikLP | it's a linode image |
| 19:06.20 | thewanderer1 | oh, so probably some damned parody of Debian |
| 19:06.21 | mjt | Rockj: you mean /bin/sh not /bin/bash :) |
| 19:06.35 | NikLP | well DSHELL=/bin/bash, but the admin user has no home area |
| 19:06.36 | mjt | Rockj: but it can be changed in debconf |
| 19:06.41 | Rockj | mjt: aye, hence my fancy smancy s/bash/sh/ :) |
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| 19:06.56 | NikLP | but even another user logging in has the same prompt... and is sh |
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| 19:06.58 | jair | ojtimsen: ok hold on, I was also thinking I may be able to change the port ssh listen to something like 80 LOL |
| 19:07.02 | jair | or 443 |
| 19:07.36 | mehrdad_drpc | how to install flashplugin for opera internet bowser? |
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| 19:08.57 | ojtimsen | jair: ok - but maybe your siter prefer to start up a script to control when you access the box and not just as "BigBrother" in the background |
| 19:09.00 | tawtaw | when i try to start any kernel with the 'quiet' flag my screen is just black and nothing happens. as soon as i remove quiet it works fine o_O |
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| 19:09.26 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: install flashplugin-nonfree, restart Opera, if it still fails to find it add /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree to its plugin search path. |
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| 19:10.25 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: for firefox is installed but not work in opera |
| 19:10.36 | tawtaw | also is it possible to log the bootup so that i can review it afterwards? |
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| 19:11.19 | jair | ojtimsen: hmm what do you mean? |
| 19:11.52 | jair | ojtimsen: it is really ok to change the port ssh server listens from 22 to 80 if I know that port is open? |
| 19:11.59 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: how did you install it. |
| 19:12.14 | jair | ojtimsen: there is not apache server running on her laptop anyway |
| 19:12.18 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: yes |
| 19:12.30 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: HOW did you install it? |
| 19:12.37 | jelly-home | in what way? |
| 19:12.48 | ojtimsen | jair: port 80 is also often scanned in the web - so it is better to use an uncommon port as listener |
| 19:13.08 | k-man | on wheezy, I installed linux-image-3.1.0-1-686-pae and my computer just hangs when it tries to load the kernel |
| 19:13.09 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: sorry defaul install in linuxmint |
| 19:13.11 | Morpheme | jair, why dodn't you like 22? |
| 19:13.19 | k-man | linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 boots fine |
| 19:13.22 | k-man | what is pae? |
| 19:13.25 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: sorry, can't help with mint |
| 19:13.26 | jelly-home | !mint |
| 19:13.26 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 19:13.42 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: ok , thnx |
| 19:13.58 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: yes mint debian base |
| 19:14.39 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: as the bot says, join #linuxmint-help channe on different IRC server: irc.spotchat.org for support |
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| 19:14.50 | ponyofdeath | hi, is it possible to add an TXT record for an cname? |
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| 19:15.02 | jair | Morpheme: I don't have a problem with it, is just that the router my sister has is been protected by the ISP and I am trying to see if I can convert it in a PAT or NAT so I can use port 22 but looks like they allow port 80 |
| 19:15.16 | jair | Morpheme: I may just try to configure the router |
| 19:15.37 | jair | ojtimsen: I will try to configure the NAT in the router |
| 19:15.49 | ojtimsen | port forward |
| 19:16.10 | jelly-home | ponyofdeath: what do you mean. |
| 19:16.18 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: not in freenod??? |
| 19:16.18 | jelly-home | !wayttd ponyofdeath |
| 19:16.18 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, ponyofdeath? |
| 19:16.39 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: that is correct, it's on a different network, not freenode. |
| 19:16.56 | ojtimsen | jair: just as a note you mentioned your paranoia a few rows above - if you bring SSH daemon to web the risk of such a scenario increase especially with low password strength :) |
| 19:17.08 | ponyofdeath | jelly-home: i just want to have an TXT info record for an cname |
| 19:17.17 | mjt | you cant |
| 19:17.38 | mjt | you can't have CNAME with anything else. either CNAME or any other record, but not both |
| 19:17.43 | jelly-home | ponyofdeath: that still does not make sense as a question. What are you trying to achieve? What do you have at present? |
| 19:17.55 | nyan-cat | dpkg -i ksplice_uptrack.deb |
| 19:17.55 | dpkg | installs ksplice_uptrack.deb into nyan-cat's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 19:17.56 | thewanderer1 | ojtimsen, haha, no, script kiddies never scan 80 for SSH. they just send HTTP exploit crap which expects buggy WordPress installs, not even giving a crap if there is an HTTP response :P |
| 19:18.14 | dudz_ | theres no such thing as a script kiddie anymore, there just called a debian user |
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| 19:18.46 | NikLP | thewanderer1: well there's nothing particularly weird in the adduser.conf :/ |
| 19:18.48 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: thnx for your guidance dear friend |
| 19:19.02 | jair | ojtimsen: I see, well looks like the system they have configure is using some kind of modem dsl that does not provide NAT cnfiguration by default, I will need to do modifications to it and will require me to travel to south america instead of walk my sister step by step |
| 19:19.20 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, run "adduser testuser", see what shell it gets added with |
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| 19:19.28 | jair | ojtimsen: so I will call their ISP and get information about getting a port open in her account |
| 19:19.33 | ponyofdeath | jelly-home: i want to use dig to find out info about the host |
| 19:19.45 | ponyofdeath | jelly-home: so i put TXT record to describe it |
| 19:20.04 | ojtimsen | jair: turn the view around - if you want to connect to your sister via ssh - she can do a ssh -R ... into your machine and you can connect via this listener to your sister |
| 19:20.07 | ponyofdeath | jelly-home: since this host is in an domain we dont control i want to add a cname for it in our domain then add the TXT record |
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| 19:20.51 | ojtimsen | and as bonus can she control when whe want you to access her box - only when she starts up this ssh -R to your box |
| 19:20.56 | jelly-home | ponyofdeath: the thing is, CNAME works as a symlink for _any other_ record query. So if you ask for a TXT, and there's a CNAME, the resolver is supposed to follow the CNAME and ask for TXT of the right-side of that CNAME. |
| 19:20.58 | jair | ojtimsen: wait a minute how will that work? that sounds interesting |
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| 19:21.37 | jair | ojtimsen: so let me test that, I am in her terminal via teamviewer |
| 19:21.43 | ojtimsen | yeah SSH is the swiss knife to knock out FW |
| 19:21.48 | NikLP | thewanderer1: ok that's weird... I have root, and two users I created and both are sh but in that new testuser, its bash! :/ |
| 19:22.12 | jair | ojtimsen: open her terminal and ssh -R myboxininternet ? |
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| 19:22.16 | ojtimsen | jair: do you have a ssh listener to the internet on your own box? |
| 19:22.18 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, are you sure you've created them with adduser? something weird going on. |
| 19:22.22 | ponyofdeath | jelly-home: i see so it will look for the TXT record on the domain we dont control ok thanks |
| 19:22.25 | jair | ojtimsen: yes |
| 19:22.39 | ojtimsen | the ssh -R is only the beginning of the command |
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| 19:23.40 | NikLP | thewanderer1: yeah defo, but I did the admin one with "no home"... still, the other one should be right! |
| 19:23.51 | NikLP | thewanderer1: maybe I should just kill them and recreate, no big loss? |
| 19:24.00 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, how about just chsh... |
| 19:24.03 | jair | ojtimsen: so ssh -R user@internetbox ? |
| 19:24.20 | ojtimsen | jair: here you go -> on your sisters machine ssh -R 127.0.0.1:12345:127.0.0.1:22 myUser@myMachineOnTheWebWithSshListener |
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| 19:24.30 | ircuser01 | a |
| 19:24.58 | NikLP | thewanderer1: oh that's what that is :) su <user> and then chsh? |
| 19:25.10 | ojtimsen | and on the myUser@myMachineOnTheWebWithSshListener you give it with a ssh -p 12345 sisterUsername@127.0.0.1 |
| 19:25.19 | jair | ojtimsen: can I really use: 12345 that port or any port? |
| 19:25.20 | thewanderer1 | NikLP, see the manpage :P |
| 19:25.27 | NikLP | ;) |
| 19:25.31 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: sorry friend , in mint not diffrent way! |
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| 19:26.06 | ojtimsen | jair: I would suggest to try it with the example and then check out whats possible :) |
| 19:26.15 | Iridos | funny thing, all my print-jobs just disappear as finished successful, nothing in the cups logs... but no print-out either already restarted the printer and cups |
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| 19:26.26 | jair | ojtimsen: ok |
| 19:26.28 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: it's obviously different -- there is no Adobe Flash or Firefox in Debian by default |
| 19:26.30 | k-man | how do I re-run grub? when I removed an older kernel I got this message: "You may need to re-run your boot loader" |
| 19:26.40 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: ask them. |
| 19:27.02 | Iridos | perhaps if I run cups in the foreground... |
| 19:27.12 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: yes , but not answer. |
| 19:27.17 | ojtimsen | jair: the machine on the web listens with 22 in the web for SSH? if yes you need to pass the port with -p XXX on the machine of your siter as well |
| 19:27.35 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: be patient, if there're not many people it might take hours or days for someone to answer |
| 19:27.47 | ojtimsen | jair: sry if it is not listening to 22 you need to deliver the -p |
| 19:28.16 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: ok,this is good idea |
| 19:28.18 | jair | ojtimsen: sounds good |
| 19:28.25 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: i'm try next time |
| 19:28.26 | NikLP | thewanderer1: thanks very much :) no idea why it happened, but we shall see how we go! ;) |
| 19:28.49 | jelly-home | mehrdad_drpc: I can't provide free help for an OS that I've never used, and this channel is only used for actual Debian, not derivatives like Mint or Ubuntu |
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| 19:30.43 | jair | ojtimsen: ok the part of my sister accessing my box is done, still how can I now see her terminal in my system? other than using screen? |
| 19:30.43 | mehrdad_drpc | jelly-home: ok , my favorite is debian OS but incompatible with my IDE |
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| 19:31.23 | mta`chrono | I need your help with sbuild. I've created a build environment with debootstrap and configured schroot. That works fine! But google doesn't find any suitable "sbuild howtos". It rather says "Are you looking for build howtos instead?". |
| 19:31.47 | ojtimsen | jair: as explained you open a terminal on your machine and so a ssh -p 12345 root@localhost if you know her root passwort enter this and you are there |
| 19:32.05 | jair | ojtimsen: awesome! |
| 19:32.09 | jair | ojtimsen: let me test |
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| 19:32.33 | ojtimsen | jair: maybe your need to use ssh -p 12345 root@127.0.0.1 instead |
| 19:32.58 | faissal | hey you all, i gotta say i love debian ! i installed it 2days ago and it ROX ! |
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| 19:33.25 | jair | ojtimsen: awesome! it works! |
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| 19:33.33 | mta`chrono | I'd like to use sbuild for my self created c++ program. Maybe you know better how to go on. Just one hint, I can google for it ;-) |
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| 19:34.07 | ojtimsen | is hoping jair made some notes |
| 19:34.14 | jair | ojtimsen: so what I should do is create a simple script in her desktop that can start the ssh -R and all I need to do is connect to the session using the port I want. |
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| 19:34.49 | sveinse | In what way does apt-get and aptitude differ in their resolver? Because I have experience that aptitude is able to resolve a package upgrade, which apt-get does not |
| 19:35.28 | jair | ojtimsen: actually I have understanding in using ssh and ssh -p remotely pretty well I did before tunneling which I did using putty in windows to access a remote linuxt system and x server through vnc |
| 19:35.42 | jair | ojtimsen: so this is a pretty nice trick |
| 19:36.08 | jair | ojtimsen: I learn something new today, awesome really pretty good one to have |
| 19:36.25 | jair | ojtimsen: alright my friend let me work in the script and also test it |
| 19:36.48 | Iridos | hm, I can write stuff to /dev/usb/lp0 but everything I send regularly via cups just vanishes |
| 19:36.53 | jair | ojtimsen: I will not have a problem with me running that script automatically at start up |
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| 19:37.04 | ojtimsen | I would add an alias definition to /etc/profile - alias BigBrotherShell='ssh -R 127.0.0.1:12345:127.0.0.1:22 BroUser@BroMachine' - then she can run in a terminal this command and needs to enter the pass or use a key |
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| 19:37.48 | jair | ojtimsen: ohh that's right since she will need to start the session and put a password to my ssh session |
| 19:37.50 | mjt | or just place a command into /usr/local/bin/BigBrotherShell |
| 19:38.28 | jair | mjt: you back into the discussion here :P good one isn't it :) |
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| 19:38.47 | ojtimsen | jair: if you found that trick interesting check also the -L option |
| 19:39.08 | jair | ojtimsen: I will need to understand how to create the bash script and also work with ssh and keys :) so the script can log her in to my system automatically |
| 19:39.18 | jair | ojtimsen: I will |
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| 19:42.41 | Iridos | anything wrong with this as settings? job-sheets=none, none media=iso_a4_210x297mm sides=one-sided |
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| 19:43.10 | Iridos | also weird... why'd it stop working... didn't do any updates, didn't fiddle with settings for ages either |
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| 19:43.28 | ojtimsen | jair: a last comment - with the -R you can also consider a candy way to transfer bigger amount of data (photos/videos) than via e-mail |
| 19:43.57 | julianoliver | i'm in a chroot of Debian Armel and am trying to dpkg --configure openssh-server. "i get the output Creating SSH2 RSA key; this may take some time ...PRNG is not seeded" |
| 19:43.59 | Iridos | why doesn't cupsd have any debugging flags |
| 19:43.59 | jair | ojtimsen: you are awesome man I will defenitely try to read more about the options of ssh :) |
| 19:44.05 | julianoliver | ssh-keygen -t rsa gives the same result |
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| 19:44.37 | thewanderer1 | julianoliver, did you forget to bind-mount /dev or /proc? |
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| 19:44.47 | julianoliver | thewanderer1: ahh yes, i did. |
| 19:44.50 | julianoliver | ugh |
| 19:44.51 | julianoliver | checks |
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| 19:45.12 | thewanderer1 | no idea if the arm ports use that for RNG init, but they might with some libs, I imagine |
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| 19:46.42 | julianoliver | thewanderer1: i had only /proc and /sys bind mounted. of course it needs /dev/random! |
| 19:46.49 | ojtimsen | jair: ok, then after you finished with -L check the -D , for example if you want to secure some web traffic via a ssh based socks-proxy |
| 19:47.42 | jair | ojtimsen: you should call yourself mister ssh :P |
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| 19:48.09 | jair | I am now taking some notes to work on some of this projects |
| 19:48.14 | ojtimsen | no I have not written any row of logic |
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| 19:49.46 | jandro | Since my remote server only has SSH port open, I am using the parameter -L 31031:localhost:80 so that I can access apache on the remote end. My problem is that when installing wordpress the "Host address" was set to "localhost:31031" and now I can connect to apache's welcome page, but not to Wordpress when I type "http://localhost:31031/wordpress" since apparently it is listening on 31031, but that's just Worpress, apache's still listening on port 80. I tri |
| 19:49.47 | jandro | setting apache to listen to 31031 although it didn't work. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong/should do to get back to wordpress and change it? Hope I made some sense there... cheers |
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| 19:54.01 | ojtimsen | jandro: have you confirmed that it is really listening to port 31031 on your server? |
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| 19:55.31 | Iridos | mmh, that's the cups debugging output http://paste.debian.net/150995/ |
| 19:55.48 | patterson | pop the stack jack |
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| 19:56.24 | ojtimsen | jandro: /sbc |
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| 19:59.04 | imdoingitwrong | hm, how do I get rid of a module installed by m-a a-i? specifically, nvidia driver |
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| 20:00.32 | ecart | which program replaces the nautilus in debian? |
| 20:00.45 | thewanderer1 | ecart, what do you mean? we have nautilus. |
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| 20:01.05 | thewanderer1 | imdoingitwrong, m-a builds deb packages and installs them via dpkg. search & purge :) |
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| 20:02.01 | ecart | <thewanderer1> How do I run it? |
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| 20:02.22 | babilen | imdoingitwrong: You can additionally also use "m-a clean" or "m-a purge" to clean/purge build results (cf. "man module-assistant") |
| 20:02.36 | thewanderer1 | ecart, press F2, type nautilus, press return... |
| 20:03.09 | babilen | imdoingitwrong: fwiw, we typically recommend dkms these days |
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| 20:03.43 | ecart | the terminal where the command? |
| 20:03.44 | ecart | thewanderer1 |
| 20:04.23 | thewanderer1 | ecart, as I said, Alt+F2 under GNOME |
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| 20:05.18 | ecart | nice bro |
| 20:05.22 | ecart | thanks |
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| 20:06.28 | imdoingitwrong | hm, I already did aptitude purge ~nnvidia before, and now dpkg -l | grep nvidia shows me only those versions that should be there, 290.10-1... (sid here) |
| 20:07.13 | imdoingitwrong | I used m-a a-i because I followed the instructions on debian wiki, worked good enough then |
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| 20:07.51 | imdoingitwrong | still, X will error out on me with API mismatch, so it seems I still have two versions installed |
| 20:08.08 | ecart | I can not edit anything in the file: S |
| 20:08.10 | ecart | thewanderer1 |
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| 20:08.45 | thewanderer1 | ecart, in what file? |
| 20:08.52 | imdoingitwrong | and m-a list |
| 20:09.08 | imdoingitwrong | [...] shows the deb of the old version |
| 20:09.16 | ecart | [thewanderer1]: ports.conf |
| 20:09.19 | ecart | :S |
| 20:09.45 | thewanderer1 | !wayttd ecart |
| 20:09.45 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, ecart? |
| 20:10.03 | ecart | no understand |
| 20:10.04 | ecart | :s |
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| 20:10.20 | ecart | what the !wayttd |
| 20:10.23 | ecart | ? |
| 20:10.38 | ecart | sorry |
| 20:10.48 | ecart | what's* |
| 20:11.00 | thewanderer1 | what are you trying to do? ... |
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| 20:11.10 | imdoingitwrong | ecart: dpkg already told you what it means |
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| 20:11.46 | ecart | as I run nautilus from the terminal as administrator? |
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| 20:14.19 | thewanderer1 | ecart, yes. don't do that. just open an editor like nano... |
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| 20:16.01 | ecart | [thewanderer1]: |
| 20:16.02 | ecart | the problem that you do not say how to do .. |
| 20:16.03 | ecart | and my problem is how to do just that. |
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| 20:16.26 | jhutchins_wk | !br |
| 20:16.26 | dpkg | Este canal Ă© apenas em inglĂȘs. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 20:17.30 | jhutchins_wk | ecart: Running nautilus with root permissions is very hazardous to your system. |
| 20:17.51 | ecart | [jhutchins_wk]: no problem |
| 20:18.13 | ecart | Please do tell how: ( |
| 20:18.44 | jhutchins_wk | ecart: WE recommend learning a console-based text editor and the commands for navigating the system with the console. |
| 20:19.23 | jhutchins_wk | !tell ecart about console |
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| 20:20.04 | imdoingitwrong | ecart: just run some terminal, type "su" and your root pass, then type "nano path-to-file" |
| 20:20.06 | ecart | [jhutchins_wk]: |
| 20:20.07 | ecart | well my problem at the moment is not about security but in ports.conf edit the apache ... |
| 20:20.07 | ecart | can anyone help me? |
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| 20:20.33 | jhutchins_wk | ecart: Simply open the file with an editor like vi, emacs, nano, etc. |
| 20:20.46 | imdoingitwrong | or use "sudo nano path-to-file", if you can |
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| 20:21.02 | jhutchins_wk | imdoingitwrong: Sudo's not enabled by default. |
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| 20:21.28 | imdoingitwrong | that's why I added the part after the comma ;) |
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| 20:22.29 | ecart | Now yes, you helped me! |
| 20:22.29 | ecart | I was admitting the possibility of cry for help! |
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| 20:35.13 | jamie90234 | Anyone able to help me with problems using apt-spy? |
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| 20:39.09 | imdoingitwrong | hm, seems like there are no headers for 2.6.32-5-686 in sid. well, there goes dkms-way |
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| 20:41.13 | datacrusher | hello fellas, im following this guide http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid but as i reboot the system to install grub |
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| 20:41.43 | datacrusher | grub cannot find /dev/dm, iv checked in fstab / fdisk-l i have /dev/mapper/nvidia_something1 as my / folder |
| 20:42.00 | datacrusher | and fdisk -l tells me the /dev/dm-1 , dm-2 and so forth |
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| 20:43.51 | thewanderer1 | datacrusher, what the hell are you using fakeRAID for? |
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| 20:44.18 | datacrusher | well, im trying to assemble a server with two disks, on a cheap ass machine |
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| 20:44.35 | datacrusher | to learn how to assemble this using raid. i dont have a hardware controller, just this nvidia bios - based |
| 20:44.52 | simonlnu | again, why are you using that? |
| 20:45.03 | thewanderer1 | yes, and you are strongly advised against using crappy fakeRAID when you have Linux mdraid, twice as reliable, portable and actually supported in the installer. |
| 20:45.12 | datacrusher | hmmm |
| 20:45.14 | datacrusher | now you got me |
| 20:45.48 | datacrusher | when i started up the installer with the raid mounted via nvidia bios, it prompted the two disks, on the documentation from debian i steped on this sataraid fakeraid thingamabob |
| 20:45.53 | datacrusher | wassup with mdraid? |
| 20:46.25 | simonlnu | software raid, iow |
| 20:46.27 | jelly-home | WASSSUP |
| 20:46.34 | datacrusher | o/ |
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| 20:47.03 | datacrusher | is there then another approach? |
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| 20:47.43 | datacrusher | well, on the guide it seems to use dmraid |
| 20:47.47 | thewanderer1 | datacrusher, yes, mdraid (not dmraid) as offered by the Debian installer |
| 20:47.53 | jelly-home | datacrusher: in bios, put the controller into AHCI or native mode (disable raid), then use Linux' own MD raid instead of dmraid/fakeraid. |
| 20:48.00 | datacrusher | hmm so the guide misguided me :D |
| 20:48.21 | jelly-home | datacrusher: no, it shows how to use fakeraid _if_ you have to |
| 20:48.38 | jelly-home | (eg. if you're dual-booting with an OS that's already using it) |
| 20:48.40 | thewanderer1 | I think someone could add a big fat notice to the top, saying "use mdadm unless dmraid strictly required" |
| 20:48.46 | datacrusher | well, i dont have to, im just trying to assemble a server with redundant disks |
| 20:48.53 | datacrusher | hoping to use the best |
| 20:48.58 | jelly-home | go the MD raid route then |
| 20:49.06 | datacrusher | searching md raid |
| 20:49.20 | datacrusher | any documentation suggestions? |
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| 20:49.38 | thewanderer1 | datacrusher, you mean like Debian Installation Manual? |
| 20:50.15 | datacrusher | now, something as in the installing proccess, instead of chosing dmraid=true, mdraid=true would do the trick or something |
| 20:50.24 | datacrusher | im on debian wiki |
| 20:50.27 | thewanderer1 | seriously, go grab the manual |
| 20:51.03 | datacrusher | hm ok |
| 20:51.28 | jelly-home | datacrusher: I guess http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition and Software RAID |
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| 20:52.15 | jelly-home | it doesn't really say much tho |
| 20:52.37 | thewanderer1 | oh, it does explain how to use the installer to create a RAID :P |
| 20:53.10 | datacrusher | hmm neat |
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| 20:53.14 | datacrusher | thanks jelly |
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| 20:53.58 | jelly-home | yes, but it doesn't really explain that you need multiple md raid1 devices, one for each filesystem and swap |
| 20:54.26 | jelly-home | (you don't, but it's a better option than making a md raid1 from whole disks) |
| 20:54.41 | datacrusher | so it basically creates similar partitions on both disks? |
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| 20:56.16 | jelly-home | yes, identical ones, and then pairs them into small raid1 arrays |
| 20:56.43 | simonlnu | whcih is more flexible |
| 20:57.04 | dtcrshr | hmm very nice |
| 20:57.23 | dtcrshr | i was kinda resistent to use this nvidia bios raid, and further on if one disk crashes i couldnt recover |
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| 20:58.01 | dtcrshr | the ideia is a raid1 itself, in case one of them caputs. this server will be basically a bacula dropbox, for some other small servers |
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| 20:59.19 | jelly-home | is that you? You lost some vowels |
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| 20:59.25 | elops | what DHCP software are you guys using for medium/large networks? |
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| 20:59.52 | mjt | what's a medium/large network? |
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| 21:00.00 | elops | i have have 600k leases |
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| 21:00.26 | mjt | um, that's kinda problematic to keep in _one_ place |
| 21:00.48 | simonlnu | jelly-home: datacrusher is now known as dtcrshr |
| 21:01.07 | jelly-home | I completely missed that line |
| 21:01.13 | elops | mayve isc-dhcpd |
| 21:01.15 | elops | ? |
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| 21:01.17 | mjt | usually such a network gets divided into smaller parts, where any standard dhcp server can cope |
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| 21:01.32 | valdyn | elops: it does not make sense that you would ask this in this channel |
| 21:01.34 | elops | i'm having difficulty finding a use-case for a wide deployment though |
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| 21:01.50 | mjt | with any dhcp server you'll have hard time with disks keeping up with constantly coming syncs |
| 21:02.03 | mjt | but indeed, it is not the right channel to ask |
| 21:02.08 | jelly-home | telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu |
| 21:02.15 | elops | where can i ask? |
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| 21:02.20 | jelly-home | hides |
| 21:02.23 | valdyn | elops: call a consultant |
| 21:02.27 | elops | pfff |
| 21:02.33 | dwfreed | jelly-home: haha, I've seen that link before |
| 21:02.43 | dtcrshr | yeah, i changed the nick |
| 21:02.45 | dtcrshr | sorry |
| 21:02.46 | mjt | elops: for a network this large, you really should know better where to ask |
| 21:02.51 | elops | configuring a few simple scopes and a failover-pair is easy enough, it's when you start adding requirements like LDAP and RADIUS integration along with policy based leasing it gets interesting |
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| 21:03.16 | elops | not to mention dhcpv6 support |
| 21:03.27 | jelly-home | what aboot 802.1x ! |
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| 21:03.58 | imdoingitwrong | ls |
| 21:04.05 | imdoingitwrong | whoops, wrong tab ^^' |
| 21:04.21 | jelly-home | but true to the nickname |
| 21:04.44 | simonlnu | how ironic |
| 21:04.47 | imdoingitwrong | jelly-home: I try, I try |
| 21:06.01 | jelly-home | simonlnu: I don't think that word means what you think it does! |
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| 21:07.24 | imdoingitright | now it would fit |
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| 21:09.14 | simonlnu | jelly-home: it does too. it means, how much iron it has |
| 21:09.35 | raven | lmms depends on wine1.2 - how to edit debian controlfile ? |
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| 21:09.56 | simonlnu | with a text editor |
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| 21:10.10 | jelly-home | ,versions lmms |
| 21:10.11 | judd | Package: lmms on i386 -- lenny: 0.3.2-1; squeeze: 0.4.7-2; sid: 0.4.10-2 |
| 21:10.24 | jelly-home | ,depends lmms |
| 21:10.25 | judd | Package lmms in squeeze/i386 -- depends: lmms-common (= 0.4.7-2), libasound2 (>> 1.0.18), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libfftw3-3, libfluidsynth1, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.8.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libjack-jackd2-0 (>= 1.9.5~dfsg-14) | libjack-0.116, libogg0 (>= 1.0rc3), libpulse0 (>= 0.9.21), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.1), libqtgui4 (>= |
| 21:10.26 | judd | 4:4.5.3), libsamplerate0, libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1), libsm6, libsndfile1 (>= 1.0.20), libstdc++6 (>= 4.4.0), libstk0c2a, libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.2), libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.2), libvorbisfile3 (>= 1.1.2), libwine, libx11-6, libxext6, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxinerama1, zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), stk, wine-bin. |
| 21:10.32 | jelly-home | good heavens |
| 21:10.54 | simonlnu | damn. wine-bin too? wth |
| 21:11.05 | jelly-home | not versioned |
| 21:11.11 | simonlnu | nope |
| 21:11.17 | jelly-home | no sirree |
| 21:11.18 | raven | simonlnu, where are theese files |
| 21:11.29 | jelly-home | !wayttd raven |
| 21:11.29 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, raven? |
| 21:11.38 | simonlnu | ^^^ |
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| 21:12.37 | raven | jelly-home, this is a confirmed bug and only one plugin requires wine1.2 - what do you mean is the best way to solve that? |
| 21:13.23 | jelly-home | raven: it depends. Is it exactly 1.2 or at least 1.2? |
| 21:13.38 | raven | jelly-home, exactly - i have 1.3 |
| 21:13.58 | jelly-home | raven: you can try rebuilding the package, /msg dpkg package rebuild |
| 21:14.36 | jelly-home | raven: which bug number is it btw? |
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| 21:14.50 | raven | jelly-home, i did not found a deb yet, compiling crashed several times |
| 21:15.28 | raven | ubuntu 789778 for example |
| 21:15.34 | jelly-home | raven: also, which debian release are you targeting? |
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| 21:15.42 | jelly-home | raven: which DEBIAN bug number? :-) |
| 21:16.10 | raven | do not know i am on ubuntu this time |
| 21:16.15 | jelly-home | (I mean, one can't expect Debian to fix it if it's not reported) |
| 21:16.34 | jelly-home | uHHH, wrong channel for that |
| 21:16.46 | Bublik2002 | i tried to do a debian firmware netinstall and it wouldnt find my wireless card for some reason :( |
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| 21:17.03 | raven | jelly-home, i do not think so or are deb reps separated already? |
| 21:17.30 | jelly-home | raven: this channel cannot support any or all the derivative distros |
| 21:17.49 | technologov | raven, ask on #ubuntu |
| 21:17.52 | jelly-home | we'd get zillions of ubuntu or mint questions |
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| 21:17.58 | raven | it shouldnt because its a .DEB problem, not a DISTRO problem |
| 21:18.14 | jelly-home | raven: a dependency issue can be a distro problem. |
| 21:18.33 | technologov | speaking seriously.. I wonder why ubuntu ppl come to ask Q here.. they have 1600 ppl on #ubuntu vs 1200 on #debian |
| 21:18.40 | raven | "can" but this one does not appear as one |
| 21:18.45 | jelly-home | raven: if you can reproduce it on Debian proper, come back please |
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| 21:19.03 | somiaj | the debian version of wine isn't well matained, best to just grab it from winehq.org and compile it from source. |
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| 21:19.57 | jelly-home | I'm sorry, but I personally won't bother with issues for a distro I don't use, not for free |
| 21:20.26 | Bublik2002 | i tried to do a debian firmware netinstall and it wouldnt find my wireless card for some reason .. could someone please help |
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| 21:20.52 | somiaj | Bublik2002: what card? What errors (if any) do you get, which firmware version |
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| 21:21.39 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: how can i check that... im currently running fedora |
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| 21:22.25 | somiaj | Bublik2002: lspci/lshw will get you the card chipset. Figure the card out first then take a look at the debian wiki for support for it |
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| 21:23.04 | Bublik2002 | somiaj: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network |
| 21:23.20 | Bublik2002 | oh wait thats my ethernet not wireless |
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| 21:25.24 | Bublik2002 | hmm i dont see wireless mentioned there |
| 21:25.42 | Bublik2002 | but i installed debian before using a dvd image and it was the iwlwifi driver or something like that |
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| 21:27.03 | babilen | Bublik2002: You need firmware for that -- Do you use an image with firmware (/msg dpkg firmware image) or do you provide it during the installation (/msg dpkg installer firmware) ? -- Please also note that you can not connect to WPA* encrypted networks. |
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| 21:28.19 | Bublik2002 | babilen: i did... i tried to do a netinstall with the firmware image |
| 21:29.24 | babilen | Bublik2002: If it is not visible in lspci's output you might have disabled it in the BIOS. Is it working in fedora? Could you paste the output of "lspci -nn" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 21:30.04 | dtcrshr | jelly-home: well, starting up on the other side, is it a good way to start up this backup server with two disks? do i really ned raid1 or is there a better approach to make a redundant data storage machine? |
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| 21:30.17 | Bublik2002 | babilen: yeah its currently working in fedora |
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| 21:31.43 | karlpinc | Bublik2002: There's also dmidecode, to see what the bios sees. (I'm not sure that'd help....) |
| 21:31.49 | Bublik2002 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/151008/ |
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| 21:34.29 | upp | hello hello, why i can't install this package???? http://pastebin.com/0hHBNyxd |
| 21:36.01 | Bublik2002 | babilen: this is the image i tried installing from /home/ben/Downloads/firmware-6.0.3-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 21:37.14 | babilen | Bublik2002: Yeah, you have an Intel Advanced-N 6200 [8086:422c] wifi adaptor and you need to provide firmware for it. |
| 21:37.42 | Bublik2002 | babilen: isnt that the whole point of the firmware install? that it provides the firmware for me? |
| 21:37.43 | peterrooney | upp: the error message tells you exactly why. |
| 21:37.54 | babilen | Bublik2002: Give me one second please :) |
| 21:38.08 | babilen | Bublik2002: Yes, that image should be fine. |
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| 21:39.06 | Bublik2002 | babilen: thats what i used... and it still asked me to provide the firmware for the wireless adapter... and i kept pressing enter and it would not find it :( |
| 21:39.12 | babilen | Bublik2002: I am not entirely sure why its not working - It would be great to see any error messages and you should also make sure that the "iwlagn" module is loaded. |
| 21:39.51 | Bublik2002 | babilen: how do i load that using the graphical installer? |
| 21:39.58 | babilen | Bublik2002: Hmm, maybe firmware-iwlwifi is not on the firmware image? -- Could you download the .deb and provide it on a removable medium as discussed in "/msg dpkg installer firmware" please? |
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| 21:40.43 | Bublik2002 | babilen: can i just put the .deb file directly on the usb stick that im installing from? |
| 21:41.45 | babilen | Bublik2002: How did you create it? If you just cat'ed the image to the stick it should have two partitions. Place the .deb on the second. |
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| 21:42.10 | Bublik2002 | babilen: using unetbootin |
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| 21:43.33 | iorivur | I did apt-get just before, |
| 21:43.34 | Bublik2002 | babilen: thats weird the firmware folder on that iso is empty.. is that the way its supposed to be |
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| 21:43.58 | iorivur | and the machine become not to accept ping from out |
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| 21:44.17 | iorivur | my machine is debian gnu/linux, and sid/ |
| 21:44.32 | babilen | Bublik2002: unetbootin does not work all the time -- You can essentially just "cat firmware-6.0.3-amd64-netinst.iso > /dev/sdX ; sync" (where sdX is your stick (e.g. /dev/sdb)) to create it. No need for unetbootin. |
| 21:44.32 | iorivur | Where should I investigate? |
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| 21:45.09 | Bublik2002 | babilen ok let me try that |
| 21:45.18 | russoisraeli | guys, after moving my Debian system to a new computer, my Xorg/gdm3 appears to start fine, but the mouse fails to left or right click... Xorg/gdm3 was installed during the original installation, so I've never touched it... Now, I see that there's no xorg.conf anywhere, just an xorg.conf.d in a weird location, and the conf files in there don't have anything standard like ServerLayout, video devices, etc.... any idea what's the fastest way to bring |
| 21:45.18 | iorivur | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:45.18 | russoisraeli | my mouse back? |
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| 21:48.49 | Bublik2002 | babilen: i did the cat firmware-6.0.3-amd64-netinst.iso > /dev/sdb ; sync and it did something for a while but shows my usb stick as blank |
| 21:48.56 | raven^ | ftp.se.debian.org doesn't work for me, in what file do I change FTP? |
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| 21:49.33 | babilen | Bublik2002: Replugged it? But I'm afk for a little while -- You might want to read http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en in the interim and ask others. |
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| 21:49.39 | koshieFinalReliz | Hi |
| 21:49.48 | koshieFinalReliz | what is the best file system for a SSD disk ? |
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| 21:50.05 | koshieFinalReliz | best = which not destroy the SSD and faster |
| 21:50.20 | koshieFinalReliz | faster than JFFS2* |
| 21:50.29 | Met4physica | would someone please kindly assist me with the set up of my network - i think i have a dns issue, can't ping any resource outside of my network - all i did was change my servers ip |
| 21:51.06 | PerfDave | Met4physica: Which server's IP did you change? |
| 21:51.46 | Met4physica | PerfDave ; thanks, I changed my Debian servers IP address, within my network, it will not resolve to the outside world any longer |
| 21:52.07 | Met4physica | PerfDave; please be advised that I only have a rudimentary grasp of networking / linux sysadmin |
| 21:52.17 | Bublik2002 | babilen: that seemed to work... how do i copy the file to the second partition? it doesnt seem to show up in my file broswer |
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| 21:54.09 | PerfDave | Met4physica: So what does this Debian server do? |
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| 21:54.56 | Met4physica | PerfDave: its supposed to be an nginx web server, in fact it was working previously to changing my IP. I have my nginx .conf's set up for wildcard IP |
| 21:57.11 | babilen | Bublik2002: Err, that was for the mini.iso, my bad. Could you check if the firmware is now on the stick? You can also copy it there manually as detailed in the installation guide. |
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| 22:01.21 | PerfDave | Met4physica: OK, you're going to need to describe your network layout. |
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| 22:02.37 | Met4physica | PerfDave; that's probably the source of my woes - i'm trying to do this without fully understanding the network config |
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| 22:05.22 | PerfDave | Met4physica: I suggest reading the networking concepts HOWTO at http://iptables.org/documentation/ |
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| 22:07.51 | imdoingitwrong | so... it seems there's no easy way to install nvidia driver on sid, without mixing and matching things |
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| 22:09.24 | PerfDave | imdoingitwrong: It's almost like it's an unstable OS mixed with proprietary software. |
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| 22:10.33 | Mr-R | imdoingitwrong: hmm. vanilla kernel and binary driver from nvidia.com? |
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| 22:10.56 | Mr-R | imdoingitwrong: but that depends on the definition of "easy"... :) |
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| 22:14.58 | ElTimo | Evening everyone. I'm trying to install Debian Squeeze to my desktop, but the installer keeps stalling at "Scanning Disks." Hitting alt+f4 shows that the last line is "partman-lvm: No volume groups found". I have an old Gateway P4 with two drives in it. |
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| 22:15.28 | imdoingitwrong | Mr-R: binary driver needs gcc-4.3, 4.4 is the lowest in sid... and it needs headers - which are absent in sid for my kernel 2.6.32-5-686. |
| 22:17.09 | Sid9 | Hi all |
| 22:17.12 | Sid9 | How do you do ? |
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| 22:18.13 | Sid9 | I come because I run on Debian Squeeze with RAID5 and during I grow 3 disk to 4 disk my raid have fail. I have two disk removed and impossible to re-assemble my raid |
| 22:18.27 | Sid9 | and for more difficult.. I have format one disk |
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| 22:18.48 | Sid9 | Here my pastebin before I format one disk |
| 22:18.51 | Sid9 | http://pastebin.com/5h3VbKMR |
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| 22:19.34 | Sid9 | and now, my new pastebin after format one disk : http://pastebin.com/fkGDnDKp |
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| 22:20.18 | Sid9 | I would like to know if it's possible to restart the grow in degraded mode |
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| 22:22.56 | babilen | imdoingitwrong: Sure there is -- You need to fully upgrade to sid (sid does *not* have a .32 kernel for example) -- You can then follow "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" with some adaptations to make sure that the correct kernel header package is installed. (essentially remove "-2.6-" from the package name) |
| 22:24.25 | teratoma | when i do 'apt-cache policy package', how can i get it to include stuff from my deb-src lines? |
| 22:24.26 | jhutchins_wk | Sid9: bon soir - there are some raid people here, hopefully someone can help. |
| 22:24.39 | babilen | imdoingitwrong: Please also note that sid will break once in a while and that you should have a sound understanding of Debian and its packaging system if you want to run it. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is a channel specific for testing/unstable related questions btw and I would strongly recommend to read the FAQ linked in its /topic |
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| 22:27.15 | imdoingitwrong | babilen: okay, what would be the way to "fully" upgrade then? aptitude full-upgrade / upgrade, was done already. you mean I should also install 3.1x kernel? if so,shouldn't my kernel be upgraded in the full-upgrade phase? |
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| 22:27.54 | babilen | imdoingitwrong: Only if you have a suitable kernel metapackage installed (i.e. linux-image-amd64 (although linux-image-2.6-amd64 will also work)) |
| 22:28.42 | imdoingitwrong | aah, right, the tracking thing |
| 22:28.59 | Sid9 | WOW |
| 22:29.09 | Sid9 | SUPER ! HAPPY ! |
| 22:29.34 | Sid9 | jhutchins_wk: I have resolv it by "hasard" (in french) |
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| 22:30.08 | Sid9 | I have change my mdadm.conf spare=1 to spare=0 mdadm --stop /dev/md0 and assemble force |
| 22:30.12 | Sid9 | it work ! |
| 22:30.37 | babilen | !congratulate Sid9 |
| 22:30.38 | dpkg | Huzzah Sid9, you did it! |
| 22:30.52 | imdoingitwrong | babilen: that indeed does make sense, thank you. :) |
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| 22:32.01 | duga | how can I have russian bash replys , english commands (f.e. to types ps ) and can easily switch between polish and russian |
| 22:32.20 | duga | irssi russian localisation would be also ok |
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| 22:33.17 | Sid9 | :) |
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| 22:34.09 | duga | any russian here ? ;p |
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| 22:35.36 | tolland | hi, where is the end-if-life listings for squeeze and lenny, I can see lots of release dates but not a firm end of support date... thnx |
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| 22:36.49 | jelly-home | tolland: somewhere... release notes perhaps, it says "12 months after the following release is out" |
| 22:37.16 | jelly-home | !release history |
| 22:37.16 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives |
| 22:37.37 | jelly-home | tolland: so with lenny, you have a month to go or so |
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| 22:38.23 | leigh | how do i fix - wireless networks device not ready firmware needed? my wireless is internal |
| 22:38.37 | jelly-home | tolland: similarly, end of support for squeeze will depend on wheezy release date |
| 22:38.41 | nevyn | leigh: what sort of device is it? |
| 22:38.57 | nevyn | leigh: install the firmware package from non-free |
| 22:39.02 | leigh | dell inspirion b130 laptop |
| 22:39.04 | tolland | ah ok |
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| 22:43.10 | Bublik2002 | i just installed debian using a netinstall firmware image... i had to disable wep2 on my wireless network because it couldnt connect otherwise during the install.... now im in and internet worked but when i click on wireless in gnome it says device not managed... how do i get it to pop up with all the wireless networks? |
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| 22:44.33 | babilen | Bublik2002: Read /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian and http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager -- You have to edit /etc/network/interfaces to *not* mention the interfaces you want to manage with network-manager |
| 22:46.33 | Bublik2002 | babilen: last time i installed from the dvd and installed the firmware myself i just did ifconfig wlan0 up and it automatically appeared in gnome... how is this different |
| 22:46.54 | babilen | Bublik2002: You configured the interface during the installation |
| 22:47.16 | Bublik2002 | babilen: yeah.... |
| 22:48.03 | leigh | anyone? |
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| 22:49.24 | babilen | leigh: "lspci -nn|grep -i network" should give you a line for your wifi adaptor, please show it to us. |
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| 22:49.47 | leigh | ok stand by |
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| 22:52.21 | Bublik2002 | babilen: so what do i do? |
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| 22:53.38 | babilen | Bublik2002: You edit /etc/network/interfaces to *not* mention anything about the interfaces you want to manage with network-manager. Please also see my earlier message for pointers towards documentation. |
| 22:55.03 | leigh | how do i pasre the reesults? |
| 22:55.33 | babilen | leigh: Can't you just copy it in here or is that problematic? |
| 22:55.42 | leigh | 02:03.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02) |
| 22:55.42 | leigh | leigh@leigh-ME051:~$ |
| 22:56.08 | babilen | !tell leigh -about bcm4318 |
| 22:56.26 | leigh | huh? |
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| 22:56.43 | babilen | leigh: You should have a received a private message from our bot (dpkg) |
| 22:57.05 | jelly-home | ,pciid 14e4:4318 |
| 22:57.06 | judd | [14e4:4318] is 'BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4318 |
| 22:57.08 | Bublik2002 | babilen: wireless-mode managed |
| 22:57.08 | Bublik2002 | wireless-essid Benandvicky |
| 22:57.23 | leigh | i dont see one |
| 22:57.26 | jelly-home | ssb? surely you jest |
| 22:57.34 | Bublik2002 | babilen: why doesnt it just let me choose it in gnome like every other distro.. im soooo confused |
| 22:57.40 | babilen | !bcm4318 |
| 22:57.41 | dpkg | b43 is a driver for Broadcom 802.11b/g PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN chipsets, included in Linux since 2.6.24. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by <b43legacy>. For BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) device support, ask me about <brcm80211>, <wl>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
| 22:57.45 | babilen | leigh: ^^^^ |
| 22:57.49 | leigh | yes? |
| 22:59.11 | babilen | leigh: You need to install firmware for your card -- You want firmware-b43-installer for that, but make sure that you enable <non-free> in your sources.list -- /msg dpkg non-free sources -- /msg dpkg make squeeze sources.list -- /msg dpkg contrib |
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| 23:00.06 | babilen | Bublik2002: Because you configured it during the installation -- Debian respects your configuration and uses it right now. If you want to use network-manager instead you have to configure it accordingly. |
| 23:00.55 | Bublik2002 | babilen: what are the steps? |
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| 23:01.46 | babilen | Bublik2002: Have you read http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager yet? Could you paste your /etc/network/interfaces to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 23:02.33 | Bublik2002 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/151033/ |
| 23:03.06 | babilen | leigh: Should I elaborate further or are you fine now? |
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| 23:05.24 | babilen | Bublik2002: See -- wlan0 is configured in there (line 9 - 13) |
| 23:05.56 | Bublik2002 | babilen: yes.... so do i have to remove that so that it appears in gnome? |
| 23:06.16 | babilen | Bublik2002: That's what I'm (the wiki and README.Debian) is saying, yes :) |
| 23:06.26 | babilen | s/is// |
| 23:06.49 | Bublik2002 | i read that wiki and didnt understand it |
| 23:07.51 | babilen | Bublik2002: Ok, so remove those lines and run "service network-manager restart" -- wlan0 should then be managed by NM |
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| 23:09.13 | Bublik2002 | babilen: excatly what i did but it still does not appear |
| 23:09.34 | Bublik2002 | babilen: still under wireless networks it says device not manager |
| 23:09.37 | Bublik2002 | managed* |
| 23:10.12 | leigh | babilen: i am sorry but i do not understand |
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| 23:13.58 | Bublik2002 | you still there? |
| 23:14.00 | babilen | Bublik2002: You restarted network-manager? |
| 23:14.03 | Bublik2002 | yes |
| 23:14.19 | babilen | leigh: Ok -- Are you connected to the internet right now? |
| 23:14.26 | leigh | yes i am hardwired |
| 23:14.45 | babilen | leigh: Ok, could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 23:14.58 | leigh | ok |
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| 23:15.37 | Snooops_ | hi are the network services loaded before debian performs a disc check? |
| 23:16.05 | babilen | Bublik2002: It should work then -- you might also want to try to reload the module for your wifi adaptor (or just restart) |
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| 23:16.17 | Bublik2002 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/151035/ |
| 23:16.26 | leigh | my terminal will not allow me to access it |
| 23:16.28 | Bublik2002 | thats what my new interfaces file looks like |
| 23:16.43 | Bublik2002 | babilen: all i did was delete the last two lines |
| 23:16.43 | babilen | Bublik2002: It's still mentioned on line 9 and 10 |
| 23:16.55 | Bublik2002 | oh so delete everything? |
| 23:16.59 | babilen | *yes* |
| 23:17.31 | babilen | Bublik2002: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#Wired_Networks_are_Unmanaged |
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| 23:19.25 | leigh | i pasted what i could get |
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| 23:21.38 | babilen | leigh: How does it not allow you? Be that as it may, edit /etc/apt/sources.list to look like http://paste.debian.net/151037/ and run "apt-get update" -- You can then install the firmware with "apt-get install firmware-b43-installer" -- You probably need to reload the b43 module with "modprobe -r b43 ; modprobe b43" |
| 23:21.39 | leigh | grrrr |
| 23:21.49 | babilen | grrr? |
| 23:22.07 | leigh | frustrated |
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| 23:22.14 | leigh | i am lost and confused |
| 23:22.29 | leigh | its never been this difficult |
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| 23:23.52 | babilen | leigh: I guess I've given you all the commands you need. What are you struggling with? |
| 23:24.18 | leigh | am i running these commands in terminal? |
| 23:25.03 | leigh | how do i copy and paste them - its not the same anymore |
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| 23:25.18 | Bublik2002 | babilen: that worked thank you so much |
| 23:25.27 | babilen | Bublik2002: Great! Enjoy! |
| 23:25.33 | leigh | what do i do if it tells me access denied |
| 23:25.40 | Bublik2002 | babilen: i forgot how i installed iceweasel 9.0.1 and icedove 9... its some repo i have to add right? |
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| 23:26.05 | jelly-home | !tell Bublik2002 about mdn |
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| 23:26.10 | babilen | leigh: You open /etc/apt/sources.list in an editor of your choice (as root) and make it look like http://paste.debian.net/151037/ -- The rest of the commands are to be run in the terminal (as root as well) |
| 23:26.30 | babilen | brb |
| 23:26.35 | hipodilski | hi somebody has an idea about jabber |
| 23:26.50 | hipodilski | is it possible to log all conversations in jabber in a central place ? |
| 23:26.51 | leigh | k |
| 23:26.51 | Bublik2002 | jelly-home: it only goes up to release 3.6 .. how do i get 9.0.1? |
| 23:27.19 | jelly-home | you want the "release" |
| 23:27.58 | jelly-home | Bublik2002: did you get the message from dpkg telling you about http://mozilla.debian.net/ ? |
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| 23:28.16 | Pyrox | por favor,un debianita solidario |
| 23:28.17 | Bublik2002 | jelly-home: yes |
| 23:28.21 | Pyrox | can someone please tell me why my syslinux does not work with encryption neither md5 nor sha1?, my syslinux.cfg |
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| 23:28.40 | Pyrox | http://pastebin.com/Tjs3QExP |
| 23:28.47 | kikadisa | does anyone is a armhf specialist ? |
| 23:28.58 | jelly-home | Bublik2002: choose the version "release" (it's picked by default anyway) |
| 23:29.49 | peterrooney | kikadisa: /msg dpkg ask |
| 23:29.51 | babilen | Bublik2002: That won't give you icedove9 though (at least not the last time I checked) |
| 23:30.11 | Bublik2002 | babilen: so how do i get the latest versions? |
| 23:30.42 | leigh | the pastedebian link you gave me, do i want to post all of those into terminal? |
| 23:30.45 | babilen | Bublik2002: Not from us -- http://mozilla.debian.net has 5.0 |
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| 23:31.21 | babilen | leigh: You want your /etc/apt/sources.list to contain *only* that -- Open it in an editor (nano for example) as root -- Delete what you have there and copy what I gave you in there. |
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| 23:31.38 | leigh | ok |
| 23:31.50 | Bublik2002 | babilen: i just installed iceweasel 9.0.1 and for some reason when i load it still says its version 3.5.16 |
| 23:31.56 | kikadisa | @peterroney : i look the dpkgbot wiki page what does it mean ? Are you doing the bot ? |
| 23:32.04 | babilen | leigh: Do you know how to become root and how to use nano or another editor as root? |
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| 23:32.13 | Bublik2002 | Setting up iceweasel (9.0.1-1~bpo60+1) ... |
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| 23:32.41 | babilen | Bublik2002: How do you open it? |
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| 23:33.01 | Bublik2002 | babilen: in gnome |
| 23:33.07 | Bublik2002 | under internet |
| 23:33.21 | babilen | Bublik2002: Try running it from the command line -- Do you have another instance open? |
| 23:33.39 | Bublik2002 | babilen: yes just closed all the instances |
| 23:33.45 | babilen | *shrug* -- I'll be back in a second. |
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| 23:34.04 | Bublik2002 | babilen: ok that did the trick |
| 23:34.45 | mangas | Pyrox, what do you mean by "does not work with encryption" |
| 23:34.48 | leigh | babilen: i get a Permission denied prompt when I try to execute. When I try to enter terminal as root it says no command- what am i doing worng? |
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| 23:35.07 | leigh | i am sorry for being pesky |
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| 23:35.26 | Pyrox | mangas, by adding md5 or sha1 hash', hen I try to login while booting I cant, like if the pass does not match |
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| 23:35.52 | kikadisa | @peterroney : ok nice feature ! |
| 23:35.52 | Pyrox | if I remove the hash and I put the pass as text plain it goes ok, mangas |
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| 23:37.16 | Pyrox | there is only one post in all google with the same problem, im fucked up |
| 23:37.21 | imdoingitwrong | leigh: run any terminal app, you'll be logged in as user, then type "su", follow by Enter, and type your root pass. You'll be logged in as root, then do whatever you want to do, just be carefull not to rm random stuff :P |
| 23:37.53 | leigh | i did Su and it gave me an authentication failure |
| 23:38.14 | mangas | Pyrox, never used syslinux but see if this link helps http://www.syslinux.org/doc/menu.txt |
| 23:38.43 | mangas | Pyrox, how did you encrypt the password? |
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| 23:39.22 | wald0 | im in squeeze, my cpu gives errors (mprime -t), how i can know from where comes the problem ? |
| 23:39.46 | mangas | Pyrox, looks like it's supposed to use the perl scripts named "sha1pass" or "md5pass" |
| 23:39.52 | Pyrox | mangas, exactly as wrote in the link u gave me |
| 23:40.03 | Pyrox | with $1$ or $4$ according the hash type |
| 23:40.34 | mangas | try using the scripts |
| 23:40.43 | mangas | if you didn't before |
| 23:40.43 | imdoingitwrong | leigh: you mean you don't know/remember your root pass, or it just fails and doesn't give you a chance to type the pass? |
| 23:40.56 | Pyrox | mangas, well, sha1pass or md5pass does not work,so I used printf passoword | md5sum mangas |
| 23:41.10 | mangas | Pyrox, probably that's the problem |
| 23:41.21 | leigh | no, i type my pass and then it gives me the notice... i dont think i set a root pass when i installed |
| 23:41.24 | mangas | use locate sha1pass or locate md5pass |
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| 23:41.50 | Pyrox | mangas, i did, and whereis too,but they werent found |
| 23:41.51 | teratoma | so im building a customer deb (nginx) with an external module. before i can make anything compile right, i have to apply a patch. how do i automatically do that when building the package ? |
| 23:42.16 | Pyrox | i did tried in ubuntu and slackware with the same problem |
| 23:42.30 | babilen | leigh: Did you disable root during the installation? |
| 23:42.40 | Pyrox | mangas, does sha1pass or md5pass work for u? |
| 23:42.50 | imdoingitwrong | wald0: you could try running memtest for a while to rule out ram... did you overclock your cpu? how are cpu temps on load? |
| 23:42.59 | mangas | i'm not running debian now but i'll check |
| 23:43.15 | leigh | i dont think so i dont remember it asking of root |
| 23:44.02 | Pyrox | mangas, maybe with previos apt-get update, then apt-get install syslinux will update from my current 4.03 to 4.05 adding sha1pass and md5pass? |
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| 23:44.34 | mangas | give it a try |
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| 23:45.14 | babilen | leigh: Well, *if* you disabled root you can acquire superuser priviliges with "sudo -i" (give your user's password) -- If you did not run "su" and give the root password. |
| 23:45.37 | Pyrox | thnx,,ill do right now mangas |
| 23:45.51 | leigh | ok.. i will toy with what ou have given me and come back. thanks |
| 23:46.03 | Pyrox | thnx 4 ur help in case i dont meet u again mangas |
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| 23:48.02 | Infiltrator | Hi all. How can I require users to enter a password (seperate from their user passwords and root password) in order to run a program? |
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| 23:50.53 | wald0 | imdoingitwrong: my settings are good, memtest passed ok, cpu temp is ok (75 CÂș in fail, where resist more than 100 (intel i7)) |
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| 23:54.02 | imdoingitwrong | wald0: well, then I can't really help that much. |
| 23:55.12 | leigh | how do i cut and paste text from here to my terminal or note pad? |
| 23:55.43 | zykotick9 | leigh: highlight then middle mouse click perhaps? |
| 23:56.03 | imdoingitwrong | wald0: I remember that when I o/ced c2d e4300 to 3GHz+ I had temps well under controll, but I still had to tamper a bit with vcore because prime95 would report errors |
| 23:56.08 | leigh | i get a menu with a bunch os submenus |
| 23:57.29 | imdoingitwrong | leigh: you can try shift+insert or shift+ctrl+v as Paste in terminal |
| 23:57.29 | wald0 | the thing is that my thinkpad laptop is everything on default settings, no overclock or any strange things |
| 23:57.29 | peterrooney | leigh: select the text in your xterm, and middle click where you want to paste it. |
| 23:57.29 | wald0 | imdoingitwrong: |
| 23:58.28 | leigh | which command for cutting? |
| 23:59.43 | leigh | got it fellas |
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| 23:59.53 | caravel | hi again - I'm trying to merge the contents of a few local and ssh (lan) mounted volumes, despite heavy file/directory moves and renames. rsync still doesn't seem to manage such renames, how would you do that ? Is there any existing tool eg. a daemon, that would build local checksum dbs on each volume, and which I could remotely query to merge them ? |
