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| 00:03.45 | khaleel5000 | wols: sorry was afk, fasting. i didnt mean to question your experience and knowledge, but was of view that noob might be betteroff with a live cd for his encrypted-partition-debian5 to 6 issue |
| 00:04.10 | rudi_s | I_eat_kawfish: If you really want to do it the "dirty" way - sid download the package from packages.debian.org and use that one - but it may cause problems! |
| 00:04.27 | rudi_s | *download the sid package |
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| 00:14.18 | I_eat_kawfish | none of this is working. Right now I just need an easy way to run a command at boot. How do I do that? |
| 00:14.35 | rudi_s | I_eat_kawfish: /etc/rc.local |
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| 00:19.11 | I_eat_kawfish | rudi_s: okay that got it working. Thanks for your help |
| 00:19.29 | rudi_s | np - but that's only a hack, find a better solution in the future. |
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| 00:20.19 | I_eat_kawfish | with as much as this machine is responsible for I doubt it will need messed with. |
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| 00:27.34 | ulnion | hello everyone, my dpkg seems to be messed up - some time ago i edited one of the files containing info about what is going to be installed/uninstalled via apt-get or something - and now i get this http://pastebin.com/vVDFiAmF after any packet installation - and trying to install the trouble makers (eieio, ede, semantic) does not succeed at all - how can i fix this? |
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| 00:30.17 | babilen | !bat |
| 00:30.17 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 00:31.13 | babilen | ulnion: ^^^ I have no idea what this eieio, semantic, ... is. Please also include your /etc/apt/sources.list and the complete output of that command. Can you remove/purge those packages? |
| 00:31.46 | ulnion | bier|tp: packages for emacs CEDET |
| 00:32.04 | boohemian | wols: still here? the file finished |
| 00:32.05 | ulnion | basically an IDE 'plugin'/module |
| 00:32.06 | boohemian | wols: once i cat the iso file, do i then put the flashdrive in the broken computer and then reboot and the netinst iso will appear? then i type in 'rescue' at boot and follow 6.3 in that other link? |
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| 00:36.43 | ulnion | babilen: maybe this helps? http://paste.debian.net/126560/ |
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| 00:38.26 | babilen | ulnion: Yes, that helps a bit more, but where are they from? They are obviously broken and I can't find them in Debian. Please paste the output of "apt-cache policy eieio edo semantic" as well as your sources.list |
| 00:38.27 | ulnion | babilen: here's the policy: http://paste.debian.net/126561/ |
| 00:38.33 | babilen | ah :) |
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| 00:39.32 | babilen | Thanks, that help :) Are you using lenny? |
| 00:39.37 | ulnion | babilen: the complete one, sorry: http://paste.debian.net/126562/ |
| 00:40.06 | ulnion | babilen: i'm using a monster - donnu it's mainly lenny, but also somewhere in between |
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| 00:40.18 | babilen | What is monster? |
| 00:40.44 | babilen | You mean you upgraded half-way to squeeze and are using a Frankendebian? |
| 00:40.55 | boohemian | how do i cat to a directory? |
| 00:40.59 | boohemian | what option do i need to use? |
| 00:41.14 | babilen | boohemian: What are you trying to achieve? |
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| 00:42.16 | boohemian | babilen: i'm trying to put the netinst iso onto my flash drive so i run 'cat ~/Downloads/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso > /Volumes/CM_Flash/' on my mac laptop and i get "-bash: /Volumes/CM_Flash/: Is a directory" |
| 00:42.30 | boohemian | i am trying to do this so i can use the rescue mode of the installer to fix my broken system |
| 00:42.41 | ulnion | babilen: well, yeah, it's a Frankendebian, - here's the sources.list: http://dpaste.com/596862/ |
| 00:43.15 | dvs | Boohbah: So you're trying to extract the files from the iso into that directory? |
| 00:43.47 | babilen | boohemian: You have to cat it to the block device, no idea how to do this on OSX -- can you see some devices in "dmesg" shortly after you plugged it in? But you probably want to ask this in #apple or #osx or so |
| 00:44.21 | boohemian | babilen: the block device is where the usb stick is located? that's /Volumes/CM_Flash ... |
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| 00:45.20 | ulnion | babilen: sorry, but i have no clue how i can fix this misery.... |
| 00:46.54 | babilen | ulnion: Well, that sources list is absolutely fine -- It seems as if those packages are quite broken. And they have also been removed post-lenny. You have to make sure that they install/remove correctly though. Try to purge them and if nothing else helps you have to edit their maintainer scripts and add "exit 0" in the .postinst .postrm -- But that would require checking what is actually going on there. /me is too tired for that now. |
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| 00:47.32 | babilen | boohemian: That very much looks like the location where it is mounted not the actual device -- I have no idea about OSX, really! |
| 00:48.13 | dvs | o_O we're doomed! |
| 00:48.35 | doc4holliday | just installed debian squeeze, trying to switch to unstable, do I change *all* "squeeze" to "unstable" in sources.lst or just certain ones? |
| 00:48.36 | boohemian | babilen: is there another way i can configure this flash drive to run the netinst iso? |
| 00:48.36 | dasboot | Hi all. Is there any way to find out what is making the mousecursor interminably pinwheel? gnome,squeeze |
| 00:48.40 | ulnion | babilen: ok, how would i purge them usually? just dpkg purge or manually editing any of those 'staging' files (or how they are called) for dkpg? |
| 00:48.57 | babilen | ulnion: It looks as if the compilation of the elisp fails which prevents the installation of the eieio package -- you have to remove that and somehow force that. |
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| 00:49.22 | ulnion | babilen: remove elisp? doesn't sound right |
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| 00:50.58 | dvs | !iyhtays boohemian |
| 00:50.59 | dpkg | boohemian: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 00:51.11 | babilen | ulnion: I would first try "apt-get purge eieio semantic ede" -- see if that works, if it does not you probably have to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/eieio.postinst and add "exit 0" after the "set -x" line -- you can then continue with "apt-get install -f" until you finally have no errors (rinse and repeat for the other two packages) -- Once done you can hopefully purge them. |
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| 00:51.52 | boohemian | babilen: dvs i found it, it is /dev/disk2 - so try that cat to that dir? |
| 00:51.59 | babilen | ulnion: "that" == "the eieio package" not "that" == "the elisp" -- sorry, that wasn't entirely clear |
| 00:52.09 | dvs | boohemian: yes |
| 00:52.11 | boohemian | dvs: of course i should find a way to get the netinst iso to work though |
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| 00:52.32 | babilen | boohemian: I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT OSX -- but it looks better. Please stick to Debian questions in here. |
| 00:53.03 | boohemian | babilen: it is a debian question. i am trying to get a debian installer to work so i can fix my debian box |
| 00:53.41 | babilen | finding the valid block device on OSX is certainly not a debian question |
| 00:53.48 | ulnion | babilen: well, i just did 'apg-get remove eieio' and then 'apt-get install pong2' (just as a test, not that i need the package) and then 'apt-get remove pong2' - and the semantic-eieio-ede-related error waring seems to be gone now |
| 00:54.01 | boohemian | babilen: i'm asking what to do now that i have the block device |
| 00:54.16 | boohemian | anyway, i get resource busy so i don't know what else to do |
| 00:54.18 | babilen | ulnion: great -- Please remove the other two packages as well -- no idea what is wrong with them. |
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| 00:54.38 | babilen | boohemian: You have to unmount it first (probably -- but ask people who know osx) |
| 00:55.20 | ulnion | hochron: babilen 'apt-get remove semantic ede' does not work - they don't seem to be installed at all... |
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| 00:56.01 | babilen | ulnion: Ok, please also run "aptitude keep-all" now to remove scheduled actions ... Looks as if everything is fine. I would recommend to upgrade to squeeze soonish. |
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| 00:56.12 | boohemian | babilen: do i need the boot image file for the usb stick? or can i just put the netinst iso on the flash drive? |
| 00:56.25 | babilen | boohemian: the latter |
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| 00:57.27 | boohemian | babilen: then just make sure usb is the first thing to boot in the bios lineup? then i can bootup with the flash drive? |
| 00:57.38 | doc4holliday | ya, so guys, check it: I changes 'squeeze' to 'unstable' under debian blah blah. but left security squeeze/updates and squeeze-updates alone. is that right? |
| 00:57.43 | babilen | boohemian: yes |
| 00:58.04 | babilen | doc4holliday: no, are you sure you want to switch to sid? |
| 00:58.21 | doc4holliday | babilen, but squeeze seems so old |
| 00:58.33 | doc4holliday | I want libreoffice 3.3.3 |
| 00:58.37 | doc4holliday | and kde 4.6 |
| 00:58.52 | doc4holliday | firefox 5 |
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| 00:58.54 | doc4holliday | etc |
| 00:59.00 | doc4holliday | the new stuff |
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| 00:59.19 | ulnion | babilen: 1) so you recommend installing eieio/ede/semantic manually instead of using the (backported?) packages? - 2) Upgrading to squeeze sounds like more than just updating sources.list and running apt-get update/upgrade? |
| 00:59.43 | ulnion | i guess i should just read the guide on how to do that |
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| 00:59.48 | philipballew_ | Hey so when i install squeeze and set install openssh server on my server called philip4 then type ssh root@philip4 my laptop says it cant find the host |
| 01:00.00 | babilen | doc4holliday: I would recommend to use a different distribution then, but read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable -- A *bit* safer is to run wheezy, but you *will* run into problems. |
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| 01:00.34 | doc4holliday | babilen, I don't mind :) thank you for the link |
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| 01:01.03 | boohemian | babilen: it's not picking up the usb flash drive... is there something i'm missing? |
| 01:01.24 | doc4holliday | philipballew_, it prolly don't resolve to philip4, tried by IP address? |
| 01:01.24 | babilen | doc4holliday: But to answer your initial question: No, as packages are directly uploaded to sid (with all the breakage that might bring) there is no distinct security support for it or the need to provide a second way to upload updated versions. So both of them have to go. |
| 01:01.33 | babilen | boohemian: No idea, probably |
| 01:01.56 | boohemian | babilen: it is the iso file itself that needs to be on the flash drive, right? i don't need to put the actual contents of the iso on the flash drive? |
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| 01:02.57 | philipballew_ | doc4holliday, yeah, when i do ip it logs in just fine |
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| 01:03.40 | doc4holliday | philipballew_, you gots dns server or some such? if not, juss add entry for philip4 into /etc/hosts |
| 01:03.41 | ulnion | babilen: well, you seem to be pretty busy, so just a big thanks for your immediate help! |
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| 01:04.18 | philipballew_ | well im not using static currently. doc4holliday also im running ddwrt on my router |
| 01:05.59 | doc4holliday | philipballew_, shit sun, I've no idear about ddwrt and whatnot. you gotta have some sorta dns or avahi to resolve names to ip addresses |
| 01:06.20 | babilen | doc4holliday: I don't want you to discourage to use Debian, but we strongly recommend to run the stable release as you will face problems on wheezy or sid (even more than wheezy) |
| 01:07.03 | philipballew_ | doc4holliday, so your saying work im goin is gonna be on the server or on my router? |
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| 01:07.10 | babilen | s/you to discourage/discourage you/ |
| 01:08.39 | kingsley | What are the best packages for downloading podcasts from the command line or cron? |
| 01:09.31 | doc4holliday | philipballew_, not knowing yo's setup, I am not sure. I am guessen you gots some sorta dhcp server installed or sumth |
| 01:09.47 | doc4holliday | maybe that can do dns resolution as well |
| 01:10.05 | philipballew_ | i think so. i might just change my setup to setup if its easier |
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| 01:10.35 | doc4holliday | philipballew_, lemme aks you this: can u cat /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 01:11.16 | doc4holliday | babile wheredja go? |
| 01:11.53 | doc4holliday | wanted to thank him for advice |
| 01:11.55 | philipballew_ | nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
| 01:12.00 | philipballew_ | doc4holliday, ^ |
| 01:12.10 | doc4holliday | is ur ddwrt? |
| 01:12.40 | doc4holliday | philipballew_, is that ur ddwrt? |
| 01:13.03 | philipballew_ | yeah. my router is 192.168.1.1 |
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| 01:14.23 | doc4holliday | philipballew_, ok coolman. so basically, you should prolly install dnsmasq on yo's router. it can do both dhcp and dns |
| 01:14.40 | philipballew_ | ok. ill look into this :) |
| 01:14.53 | doc4holliday | then u should be able to go by hostname |
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| 01:16.58 | doc4holliday | if there are other debian experts, could someone please clarify: so if I stick with stable (squeeze?) will I be able to get things like kde 4.6, firefox 4/5, libreoffice? or am I stuck with older pkgs? |
| 01:17.50 | dvs | !tell doc4holliday -about backports |
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| 01:19.09 | doc4holliday | heh, the mofo spoke to me! :) thank dvs, Im gonna go for some reading |
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| 01:19.37 | dvs | k |
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| 01:22.29 | sveva65 | kingsley: Not a package, but you might want to check out bashpodder: http://lincgeek.org/bashpodder |
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| 01:42.37 | eryn_1983_fl_2 | hey peeps does Debian use Networkmanager now? |
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| 01:43.13 | pingfloyd | if you install it |
| 01:43.15 | doc4holliday | eryn_1983_fl_2, you betcha |
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| 01:46.50 | boohemian | do i need to recompile a new kernel before i rebuild the initrd via this command 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image' ? |
| 01:46.52 | eryn_1983_fl_2 | I nkow this is the 'wrong' for ubuntu questions but does Netwokmanger overwrite /etc/network/interfcaes? I found some howtos for wifi and it says to put stuff in there |
| 01:47.31 | eryn_1983_fl_2 | See I am trying toget my wifi up from the cli. I am using stumpwm on ubuntu and I got no trayI tried trayer but It didnt seem to get nm-applet on it.. |
| 01:47.38 | eryn_1983_fl_2 | so I got to run it from the cli.. |
| 01:48.07 | eryn_1983_fl_2 | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Command_line I was thinking of doing this at line Other Desktops and Window Managers |
| 01:48.32 | boudiccas | Eryn_1983_FL; but as you're using ubuntu we cant help you, we only support what we ship, eg debian. please try #ubuntu |
| 01:49.09 | boohemian | wols_: ping |
| 01:50.24 | eryn_1983_fl_2 | yeah they ignored me |
| 01:50.29 | eryn_1983_fl_2 | they are busy helping the noobs |
| 01:51.17 | boudiccas | well they're the only people who can really help you, so just hang around there and get support |
| 01:51.27 | eryn_1983_fl_2 | yeah |
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| 01:53.47 | boohemian | hi, can someone please help me? i just tried to regenerate the initrd by dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 and it failed. the last line said 'Internal Error: Could not find image (.boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64)' |
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| 01:54.04 | boohemian | i know that is the name of my linux kernel... there is nothing inside /boot/ ??? please help |
| 01:55.01 | dvs | boohemian: update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 01:57.08 | boohemian | dvs: thanks! now run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 ? |
| 01:57.17 | dvs | why? |
| 01:57.46 | dvs | maybe update-grub |
| 01:57.51 | boohemian | dvs: is it not needed? this is what i was following? http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-initrd.html |
| 01:58.05 | boohemian | dvs: the problem i have is i cannot get grub to load a bootable kernel |
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| 01:58.34 | dvs | boohemian: do update-grub first |
| 01:58.38 | boohemian | dvs: i upgraded to debian6 from debian 5. when i boot, i get this "loading Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 ... / loading inital ramdisk ... / error: out of partition. / [ 0.241997] kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" |
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| 01:58.54 | boohemian | dvs: in the rescue mode, right? |
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| 01:59.25 | dvs | boohemian: that'll work |
| 01:59.44 | boohemian | dvs: okay i did 'update-grub' and it finished, only with one error: cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: no such file or directory -- anything else i need to do, or can i reboot? |
| 02:00.04 | dvs | i'd reboot |
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| 02:02.23 | boohemian | dvs: still no luck when i try to load the kernel or the recovery mode... i think the problem is grub does not know where the root drive is... is there an easy way to change this? |
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| 02:02.38 | boohemian | dvs: otherwise, do you know what i should try, if i shouldn't edit my grub config? |
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| 02:03.23 | dvs | boohemian: can you paste the error message? |
| 02:03.25 | boohemian | dvs: i think it's a grub config problem because one of the lines that appear when i try to enter via recovery mode is 'no filesystem could mount root, tried " then a kernel panic message |
| 02:03.42 | boohemian | dvs: i can't. it's on a different system... |
| 02:03.51 | boohemian | dvs: i could take a picture? |
| 02:04.07 | dvs | that'll work |
| 02:04.19 | qkit | boohemian: can you share your grub.conf with us? |
| 02:04.27 | boohemian | dvs: btw, i have botted up successfully after the debian 6 upgrade... does that matter? |
| 02:04.33 | boohemian | qkit: where can i access that? |
| 02:04.55 | qkit | boohemian: you are running in single mode / rescue mode now? |
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| 02:05.16 | dvs | boohemian: Debian 6 upgrade? Did you just change the name in the sources.list file? |
| 02:05.27 | boohemian | qkit: i cannot log in... i've used a netinstall iso disc in recovery mode to access the computer... |
| 02:05.40 | boohemian | dvs: yes i did... was that bad? |
| 02:05.47 | dvs | YES |
| 02:06.04 | dvs | !tell boohemian about lenny->squeeze |
| 02:06.58 | boudiccas | !tell boudiccas about lenny->squeeze |
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| 02:07.16 | qkit | ouch, you play with the sources.list |
| 02:07.17 | boohemian | dvs: hrm, why would linode say to change the name in sources.list?? they are reputable... http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/upgrade-to-debian-6-squeeze |
| 02:07.21 | dvs | boudiccas: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 02:08.22 | boohemian | dvs: so at this point, what should i do? how do i get a working system? |
| 02:08.24 | dvs | boohemian: That's wrong |
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| 02:09.05 | dvs | boohemian: You might have a chance with "apt-get install udev" |
| 02:09.20 | boohemian | dvs: i need to do that in the recovery cd? |
| 02:09.47 | qkit | boohemian: can you share /boot/grub/menu.lst with us? |
| 02:09.54 | dvs | boohemian: As long as you can get it on the machine. |
| 02:10.27 | boohemian | i was able to reboot the machine before i ran upgrade-from-grub-legacy... the problem started after i ran this and changed the grub config.... seems like the problem is the grub config is not configured properly? |
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| 02:10.58 | boohemian | qkit: lemme try |
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| 02:12.42 | ska | Is Debian 6's version of iceweasel the same version number as Firefox? 3.5.X? I cant seem to find it in the package description. |
| 02:12.44 | boohemian | qkit: how can i see the menu.lst from the grub> command line? |
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| 02:13.20 | qkit | no no |
| 02:13.42 | qkit | boohemian: can u run cat /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
| 02:13.56 | qkit | i wanted to see the content of the file |
| 02:14.10 | jukebox-zero | I can't find this on google for the life of me. Does anyone know if you can pass more than one --provides to checkinstall? Compiling mplayer from source and due to a dep for a pkg I want to install I need to specify it provides mplayer and mencoder. |
| 02:14.23 | boohemian | qkit: this is what grub is loading echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.26-2-amd64 ... linux /vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/vladimir-root ro single \ |
| 02:14.36 | boohemian | perhaps the root is wrong, qkit ? |
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| 02:14.57 | qkit | strange... |
| 02:15.14 | boohemian | qkit: to do cat /boot/grub/menu.lst i need to get into the the system via the recovery disc? |
| 02:15.20 | qkit | ya |
| 02:17.59 | jukebox-zero | I want to try something like checkinstall --pkgname=mplayer --provides=mplayer --provides=mencoder but afraid it will install with only provides mplayer recognized. Initially did the command only checkinstall --pkgname=mplayer and then entered "mplayer mencoder" at the provides prompt where it allows me to edit, but that threw a syntax error. Not sure if just a comma will fix it. Scared to play around to much and have to r |
| 02:17.59 | jukebox-zero | ecompile if it installs wrong. |
| 02:18.06 | ska | Does anyone know what the most recent version of the backports for Iceweasel is in Squeeze?? |
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| 02:19.28 | boohemian | qkit: i have my own boot partition, how do i access that in the recovery disc? |
| 02:19.29 | adminewb | ,versions iceweasel |
| 02:19.29 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; squeeze: 3.5.16-6; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-8~bpo50+1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 3.5.16-8; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-9; wheezy: 5.0-6; sid: 6.0-1 |
| 02:19.56 | qkit | boohemian: i dont get what you mean |
| 02:20.15 | qkit | you boot up with rescue disc right? |
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| 02:21.03 | ska | ,versions icedove |
| 02:21.04 | judd | Package icedove on i386 -- lenny: 2.0.0.24-0lenny1; lenny-security: 2.0.0.24-0lenny1; squeeze: 3.0.11-1+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 3.0.11-1+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 3.1.11-1~bpo60+1; sid: 3.1.11-1; wheezy: 3.1.11-1; experimental: 5.0-2 |
| 02:21.31 | ska | adminewb: how did you know that command? |
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| 02:22.33 | arp- | Hello |
| 02:23.09 | boohemian | qkit: i boot up with the rescue disc, but i have to "entire a device you wish to use as your root file system" ... but the root file system is not where my boot partition is... |
| 02:23.13 | arp- | I need poweroff a specific USB Port |
| 02:23.48 | arp- | how can ? |
| 02:23.55 | qkit | boohemian: hmm |
| 02:24.15 | qkit | what is the error when you boot in normally? |
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| 02:25.57 | boohemian | qkit: how do i see what other partitions i have on my system? |
| 02:26.13 | qkit | fdisk -ll |
| 02:26.16 | qkit | or df -h |
| 02:27.01 | jukebox-zero | Let me try asking this a different way: If i install this using checkinstall --pkgname=mplayer --provides=mencoder will apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, et al have any trouble or complain if there were a pkg that depended on mplayer? dpkg looks at the pkg name more than the provides, right? |
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| 02:28.39 | philipballew_ | QUESTION: when i install network manager it shows all my networks as wep even though they are wpa |
| 02:29.02 | centHOGG | what version |
| 02:29.36 | philipballew_ | centHOGG, 5 sec ill check |
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| 02:30.05 | philipballew_ | centHOGG, i know its the default in squeeze |
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| 02:30.22 | centHOGG | idk... i was thinking maybe you had an old version |
| 02:30.31 | philipballew_ | oh... |
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| 02:32.22 | boohemian | okay so my boot partition is /dev/sda1 -- how do i mount that in the recovery cd (i am using a shell in a different partition) so i can view the grub configs? |
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| 02:34.42 | qkit | the command --> mount /dev/sda1/ "which ever folder available and can use" |
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| 02:36.30 | boohemian | qkit: thanks. now how do i view the contents of /dev/sda1? i want to show you the grub configs but need to get into /dev/sda1 |
| 02:36.45 | boohemian | qkit: when i try to cd to sda1 it says 19: can't cd to sda1 |
| 02:36.46 | qkit | go to the folder u mounted |
| 02:37.01 | qkit | dont go sda1....go to the folder u mounted? |
| 02:37.10 | qkit | as if say u mount /dev/sda1 /tmp |
| 02:37.13 | qkit | den go to /tmp |
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| 02:40.30 | philipballew_ | network manager is showing my network as wep when it is wpa |
| 02:41.23 | boohemian | qkit: in /boot/grub/menu.lst it says root is (hd0,0) but when i boot up normally and i look at the grub config it says my root dir is root=/dev/mapper/vladimir-root ro single \ |
| 02:41.36 | qkit | boohemian: use pastebin to paste it |
| 02:41.45 | qkit | dont flood the channel. Thanks You |
| 02:41.47 | boohemian | qkit: is that the issue? if i change root=/dev/mapper/vladimir-root ro single \ to root=(hd0,0), will my computer boot? |
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| 02:42.13 | qkit | also can u paste de fdisk -ll result |
| 02:42.22 | qkit | nope...it doesnt work that ways |
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| 02:43.03 | boohemian | qkit: how can i pastebin it? the grub config is on another computer without a web browser...? |
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| 02:43.10 | boohemian | qkit: what am i looking for |
| 02:43.24 | jetscreamer | sneakernet |
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| 02:43.28 | philipballew | network manager is showing my network as wep when it is wpa. has anyone seen this? |
| 02:44.06 | jetscreamer | !sneakernet |
| 02:44.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sneakernet is "never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes", attributed to various people, including Andy Tanenbaum, Dennis Ritchie, and Warren Jackson, or generally file transfer accomplished via physical storage walked from host to host. |
| 02:44.39 | qkit | boohemian:hmm..wait ya.Can you show me you fdisk -ll |
| 02:45.45 | qkit | and where is ur /boot located?you cant use current config apply to menu.lst...cause you booting up using rescue mode..and no the bootloader on the hdd |
| 02:46.49 | qkit | what is ur root in ur menu.lst? |
| 02:48.07 | qkit | normally is should also include kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-155.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup01/lv01 rhgb quiet and initrd /initrd-2.6.18-155.el5.img |
| 02:49.26 | jukebox-zero | Can anyone suggest a better channel to ask a checkinstall question? |
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| 03:02.16 | qkit | boohemian: can? |
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| 03:04.19 | boohemian | qkit: one sec, just took the pics |
| 03:04.24 | simpleblue | does anyone know if this link should get wireless wpa working? http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-connect-to-a-wpa-wifi-using-command-lines-on-debian |
| 03:04.42 | simpleblue | it doesn't appear to allow me to ping |
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| 03:06.41 | boohemian | qkit: here is my grub menu.lst - i had to take pictures, sorry for the bad quality http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/1.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/2.jpg and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/3.jpg |
| 03:06.41 | scanf | hello, I have an filesystem, grub2, /boot unencrypted, LVM-on-LUKS everything else, and i want to install debian, should the netinst boot prompt me and label everything correctly? |
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| 03:10.45 | boohemian | qkit: still here? |
| 03:11.14 | qkit | boohemian: the jpg size big? so slow to load it? |
| 03:11.47 | boohemian | qkit: hold on, i'll reduce the size |
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| 03:15.50 | boohemian | qkit: here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/1.jpg and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/2.jpg and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/3.jpg |
| 03:15.53 | boohemian | qkit: can you view them? |
| 03:16.00 | boohemian | i made them much smaller (60kb) |
| 03:16.01 | qkit | let me try and see |
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| 03:18.10 | qkit | i getting "can no disply the webpage" |
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| 03:22.18 | boohemian | qkit: erm... let me change the name of the file |
| 03:23.31 | boohemian | qkit: here, does this work? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/11.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/22.jpg and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/33.jpg |
| 03:23.48 | qkit | oh u copy out the config? |
| 03:23.54 | qkit | i believe quite short right?> |
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| 03:24.21 | qkit | cant..i cant event go http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8494936/ |
| 03:24.24 | boohemian | qkit: okay, hold on |
| 03:25.01 | Dewi | qkit: that's normal, dropbox doesn't do directory indexes for the public area |
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| 03:26.32 | qkit | Dewi: oh, was it? hmm, i think this is because of the security issue |
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| 03:27.26 | boohemian | qkit: here http://pastie.org/private/4vaujxroeatmjwgmydaw there are 3 more versions that are in the file but i only copied the first one... |
| 03:27.54 | qkit | ok |
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| 03:30.42 | qkit | hmm...from the config ..look like you installed boot with lvm filesystem |
| 03:30.57 | boohemian | qkit: i'm using lvm, does that matter? what if i add 'insmod lvm' to the grub config? |
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| 03:31.20 | boohemian | qkit: i'm pretty sure i am using lvm as i have a full disk encryption configuration and i am pretty sure i used lvm for that... |
| 03:31.29 | qkit | no really...cause normally we dont create boot partition on lvm |
| 03:31.50 | qkit | but you finish paste others file first.. |
| 03:31.58 | qkit | let me check abit more |
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| 03:32.43 | qkit | cause lvm is a module / services. The service run after success boot in. Now is more like you want to load the service before the success boot. which i believe given you the problem |
| 03:32.55 | jpinx | I am stuck offline with a new squeeze install. Can I copy pkgs and config files from my last lenny update.? |
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| 03:33.53 | boohemian | qkit: so what should i put as the root ? |
| 03:33.58 | boohemian | (hd0,0) ? |
| 03:34.18 | qkit | boohemian: how about the 2 others file? |
| 03:34.30 | qkit | pastebin already? |
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| 03:35.01 | philipballew | what would i install onto a laptop to show me how much time is left with my battery? |
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| 03:40.46 | simpleblue | "The wireless LAN (WLAN for short) provides the fast wireless connectivity through the spread-spectrum communication of unlicensed radio bands based on the set of standards called IEEE 802.11." .... not true, i've been trying to get connected for hours * sigh * |
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| 03:42.12 | boohemian | qkit: this is the full grub menu.lst http://pastie.org/private/suerez4xjl72u0m7rlx49g |
| 03:43.10 | qkit | boohemian: try this "/etc/defaults/grub to add GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=lvm " |
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| 03:43.22 | qkit | put this in defaults/grub. remenber do a backup |
| 03:43.30 | qkit | den update-grub |
| 03:44.19 | qkit | den reboot ur machine and see , can it boot up normally? |
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| 03:45.30 | J_Rey | I'm glad I went with Debian |
| 03:45.54 | J_Rey | new install without too many hiccups 8-) |
| 03:46.04 | gnarface | can someone tell me if the 'backup' user in squeeze is the appropriate user to wire my own backup scripts to? |
| 03:46.23 | boohemian | qkit: so add GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=lvm in the file named /etc/default/grub ? |
| 03:46.49 | Rusty1 | philipballew: if you have synaptic installed, type battery in the search box, there are several tools. otherwise a google search of: debian battery monitor , might provide some help |
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| 03:48.17 | qkit | yup |
| 03:48.19 | J_Rey | where do you change how long it waits before locking the screen? (GUI preferred) |
| 03:48.26 | qkit | boohemian: yup |
| 03:49.16 | J_Rey | ha nevermind |
| 03:50.15 | boohemian | qkit: how do i make sure i have a specific kernel? |
| 03:51.11 | qkit | you need check in the boot for the vmlinuz version |
| 03:51.42 | qkit | i mean in boot directory look in vmlinuz and initrd.img |
| 03:51.52 | qkit | they needed to be in same version no to make it work |
| 03:52.37 | qkit | from the pastebin look like you have 2 version or kernel. |
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| 03:52.57 | qkit | 2.6.32-5 and 2.6.26-2 |
| 03:53.11 | boohemian | qkit: no it did not boot. SIGH |
| 03:53.14 | boohemian | what else should i try? |
| 03:53.21 | qkit | what error you get? |
| 03:53.46 | qkit | the fdisk -ll show u what? are you using lvm or lvm2? |
| 03:53.56 | jukebox-zero | when dpkg checks to see if a pkgs dependencies are satisfied, does it look at the names of installed packages, what those packages say they provide, or both? |
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| 03:56.22 | boohemian | qkit: same error as before |
| 03:56.51 | qkit | sorry. i come in the channel late. Didnt saw the error message |
| 03:56.54 | qkit | can you post again? |
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| 03:57.30 | simpleblue | okay, got the net working |
| 03:58.17 | boohemian | qkit: the error is "error out of partition kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" |
| 03:58.25 | simpleblue | but had to use a mix between freebsd and arch linux instructions to do it :s |
| 03:58.41 | simpleblue | debian instructions = no working wpa |
| 03:59.45 | qkit | boohemian: if u run fdisk -ll what you get? |
| 04:00.02 | boohemian | qkit: a lot of info... what do you need? |
| 04:00.22 | qkit | hmm.. |
| 04:00.33 | qkit | i just needed the sda1 part |
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| 04:01.46 | pipo65 | http://paste.debian.net/126570/ |
| 04:01.55 | pipo65 | hi |
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| 04:03.17 | qkit | which lvm version you are using boohemian? |
| 04:03.34 | qkit | you can try follow this http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/stuff/lvm-root/lvm-root.html |
| 04:03.47 | qkit | please do backup before you try it. |
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| 04:05.55 | elik | Anyone here has a debian router box with a wifi access point? I have been having a hard time with mine, with connection dropping during heavy transfers (I use an rt61 based card). The driver does not provide much in terms of debug log, and the problem is somewhat random, so it's really hard to caracterize. I observed quite a few interesting points: my client has a lot of rx packet error, it bit rate changes frequently even though I'm sitting next to the box. |
| 04:07.07 | boohemian | qkit: two minutes as i type it out |
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| 04:07.41 | qkit | ok |
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| 04:10.57 | boohemian | qkit: sda1 is my boot drive, sda2 is the large partition where everything else is... |
| 04:11.14 | qkit | ok |
| 04:11.23 | qkit | how about lvm version you are using? |
| 04:11.32 | qkit | you are using kernel 2.6.x right? |
| 04:11.43 | qkit | if u boot in using kernel 2.4.x does it work? |
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| 04:16.19 | LiENUS | is there a way to add a range of addresses rather than adding each one by hand? |
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| 04:17.21 | elik | LiENUS: adding a range of address to what? |
| 04:17.28 | dondelelcaro | LiENUS: use an up command with a for loop when you bring up the main interface |
| 04:17.41 | LiENUS | elik, an interface |
| 04:18.22 | LiENUS | also is there a safe way to restart an interface remotely? |
| 04:18.30 | LiENUS | so say i screw up and mess things up |
| 04:18.35 | dondelelcaro | LiENUS: ala up sh -c 'for a in $(seq 50 240); do ip addr add 1.2.3.${a} dev bar; done;' or similar |
| 04:18.39 | LiENUS | if it doesnt have net access in X time it resets to old conf |
| 04:18.41 | dondelelcaro | LiENUS: why would you restart the interface? |
| 04:18.48 | LiENUS | reconfigure it |
| 04:18.53 | dondelelcaro | LiENUS: for what purpose? |
| 04:18.57 | dondelelcaro | LiENUS: just add the new addresses |
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| 04:19.10 | dondelelcaro | (and if this machine actually matters, you should have a serial console anyway) |
| 04:19.13 | LiENUS | to verify syntax and behavior of /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:19.25 | LiENUS | eh its got a rac in it |
| 04:19.27 | LiENUS | just not hooked up |
| 04:19.37 | nevyn | if you've got a out of band connection.. like ILO or serial then it's ok |
| 04:19.49 | nevyn | otherwise if it all goes pearshaped you've got a long drive. |
| 04:20.39 | boohemian | qkit: i only have two kernels, 2.6.32 and 2.6.26 .... i don't have 2.4.... |
| 04:20.53 | LiENUS | erm does debian use ifcfg? |
| 04:21.05 | boohemian | qkit: what if i roll a new kernel? |
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| 04:22.27 | wols_ | qkit: no debian for the last few years worked with a 2.4 kernel |
| 04:22.44 | LiENUS | eh i guess this weekend i'll start hooking up the rac cards |
| 04:22.54 | LiENUS | i've got a spare bank on the switch thats unused |
| 04:23.29 | LiENUS | good use of the test network anyway |
| 04:23.46 | LiENUS | now to get a CA setup |
| 04:24.54 | boohemian | wols_: i'm still stuck on grub loading. wanna help? :) |
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| 04:25.09 | qkit | wols_: does the latest debian can recognize lvm2 filesystem when it boot up? |
| 04:25.21 | qkit | as the boot partition are sit on lvm2 filesyste, |
| 04:25.47 | wols_ | boohemian: what about netinst iso or a live cd? none worked? |
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| 04:26.00 | boohemian | wols_: i'm using the netinst cd but i'm not sure what to do? |
| 04:26.09 | boohemian | i'm inside the rescue mode now... |
| 04:26.44 | wols_ | boohemian: mount the debian installation |
| 04:26.45 | qkit | wols_: i think he trying to fix his box, which cant boot up after he do an upgrade |
| 04:27.03 | boohemian | wols_: i have, i'm in the root partition now... what next? |
| 04:27.06 | wols_ | qkit: we know what he tries |
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| 04:27.20 | qkit | oops, sorry wols_ |
| 04:27.30 | wols_ | boohemian: encryption and all? |
| 04:28.58 | boohemian | wols_: yes. i think i'm using lvm for the full disc encryption... |
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| 04:29.33 | wols_ | so where is your debian installation mounted? |
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| 04:31.29 | boohemian | wols_: /dev/vladimir/root |
| 04:31.51 | wols_ | erm, something is not right, you don't mount a partition in /dev |
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| 04:32.11 | boohemian | wols_: well in the rescue mode shell i am in an "interactive shell on /dev/vladimir/root" |
| 04:32.13 | wols_ | you are really confused was device files and what mountpoints are. same thing happened under apple a few hours ago |
| 04:32.20 | boohemian | which is in dm-2 according to cd /dev |
| 04:32.33 | wols_ | boohemian: and you mounted this partition there? |
| 04:32.49 | boohemian | wols_: /dev/vladimir/root? that i loaded via the rescue disc |
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| 04:33.09 | wols_ | no. you need to mount it yourself. manually. so you have access to the filesystem |
| 04:33.53 | boohemian | wols_: these are my options to use a "device to use as root file system" 1) /dev/sda1, 2) /dev/sda2, 3) /dev/sdb1 (usb stick), 4) /dev/mapper/sda2)crypt 5) /dev/vladimir/root 6) /dev/vladimir/swap_1 |
| 04:34.18 | wols_ | boohemian: and /dev/mapper/sda2)crypt is the one |
| 04:34.21 | boohemian | wols_: so when i use an interactive shell on /dev/vladimir/root, mount /dev/sda1? |
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| 04:34.46 | wols_ | boohemian: which is your actual root filesystem? |
| 04:34.59 | boohemian | wols_: i don't know... :( |
| 04:35.03 | wols_ | and you erally need to tell us your system's filesystem layout |
| 04:35.19 | wols_ | then mount each one and look what the content(s) are |
| 04:35.35 | wols_ | which part of debian do you have encrypted? and which parts are unencrypted? |
| 04:35.59 | boohemian | wols_: i'm pretty sure i encrypted each partition |
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| 04:37.12 | wols_ | I doubt it cause what your wrote above says otherwise |
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| 04:39.41 | boohemian | wols_: sda2_crypt does not appear when i try to mount, it says does not exist |
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| 04:40.03 | wols_ | but that's most likely the one you want |
| 04:40.23 | boohemian | wols_: yay! i mounted /dev/vladimir/root and that's where my root filesystem is... so what now? |
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| 04:40.45 | wols_ | you still need to mount your crypted volume |
| 04:41.07 | boohemian | sda1 is my boot partition, by the way |
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| 04:41.56 | boohemian | wols_: i tried to mount /dev/sda2 but it says device or resource busy-- is there anything i can do? |
| 04:42.47 | wols_ | it's /dev/mapper/sda2 as shown above |
| 04:42.53 | boohemian | wols_: nothing in /dev says *crypt*... maybe i can't see it because i haven't decrypted the volume? |
| 04:43.25 | boohemian | wols_: ah, i tried that but it says cannot mount device or resource busy. can i force the mount? |
| 04:43.41 | iluminator101 | 1> how i rename file in the folder for instance 01 03 docin 01.odt 02 03 docin 01.odt 03 03 docin 01.odt , i want to delete the leading 01 and 02 so forth in one single command |
| 04:43.50 | wols_ | unlikely. I dunno enough about crypt and lvm to know how to make it boot |
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| 04:44.59 | wols_ | boohemian: what did you put into your grub.cfg to boot that it didn't work when you don't encrypt your root filesystem? |
| 04:45.52 | boohemian | wols_: what? i didn't understand the question |
| 04:46.06 | boohemian | wols_: is there a way to run the grub2 configuration tool again? |
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| 04:46.45 | wols_ | yes there is. update-grub. but you need to check out /msg dpkg fixgrub first |
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| 04:48.24 | boohemian | wols_: will chroot work with the encrypted root partition? |
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| 04:49.45 | wols_ | you have no encrypted root partition. or have you entered your password ever? |
| 04:49.55 | wols_ | you really need to find out what installation you actually run |
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| 04:50.52 | boohemian | wols_: what do you mean by installation? |
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| 04:51.33 | wols_ | your debian installation |
| 04:51.47 | boohemian | wols_: when i boot the rescue disc i have to enter the passphrase for /dev/sda2 |
| 04:51.50 | boohemian | wols_: does that help? |
| 04:53.06 | wols_ | no it does not since you said /dev/sda2 is not your root partition. again: what is your filesystem layout on your partitions? |
| 04:53.28 | wols_ | and I thought you use lvm, so why is there a /dev/sda2 |
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| 04:53.57 | boohemian | i don't know, but i just got confirmation that i use lvm |
| 04:54.12 | wols_ | then I suggest you hire someone who does |
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| 04:54.18 | wols_ | or find out yourself |
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| 04:55.51 | boohemian | wols_: my root system is on /dev/vladimir/root ... that shows all the files that should be on my root file system |
| 04:56.05 | wols_ | which files exactly? examples? |
| 04:57.03 | boohemian | etc |
| 04:57.16 | wols_ | and what is on /dev/sda2? |
| 04:57.18 | cantido | doesnt know whats broken, but has a feeling more will be broken at the end of this |
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| 04:58.16 | boohemian | my current partition scheme looks like this: LVM VG vladimir, LV root - 737 GB Linux device-mapper (linear) ext3. that partition is inside the encrypted volume sda2_crypt 750GB Linux device-mapper (crypt) |
| 04:58.19 | boohemian | and i have a 12GB swap |
| 04:58.35 | wols_ | cantido: I'm not contradicting you. basically he said after upgrade from lenny to squeeze he gets a kernel panic about unknown filesystem on boot |
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| 04:59.53 | cantido | I dont have any scroll back.. did he paste anything? |
| 04:59.53 | boohemian | wols_: looks like sda2 is the actual physical hard drive. on sda2 i have my root partition which is 737GB large, which is on the sda2_crypt encrypted volume |
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| 05:03.03 | cantido | boohemian: did you upgrade this box without actually checking how it was already running? |
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| 05:03.46 | boohemian | wols_: in my root partition (at least what i think is my root partition), i have bin dev initrd.img lib32 media root srv usr vmlinuz.old boot etc init.img.old lib64 mnt sbin sys var cdrom home lib lost+found proc selinux tmp and vmlinuz |
| 05:03.57 | boohemian | wols_: so isn't it safe to say that this is my root partition? |
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| 05:04.24 | wols_ | it is. |
| 05:04.24 | boohemian | cantido: the machine ran fine. but i upgraded improperly just by editing sources.list. i was following a guide from linode and evidently that was wrong |
| 05:04.48 | wols_ | boohemian: what does your grub.cfg use as root partition? |
| 05:05.01 | cantido | so this is a vm? |
| 05:05.30 | boohemian | cantido: no, linode library was the first hit in google to come up when google for upgrade instructions |
| 05:06.10 | boohemian | wols_: set root='(hd0,msdos1)' |
| 05:06.25 | wols_ | ARGH! |
| 05:06.50 | wols_ | and that doesn't look like a grub.cfg entry |
| 05:07.24 | boohemian | wols_: well, in the four menu entries in grub.cfg i have this http://pastie.org/private/suerez4xjl72u0m7rlx49g |
| 05:07.27 | boohemian | wols_: does that help? |
| 05:07.39 | TBotNik | Hey wols |
| 05:08.15 | wols_ | so it's root (hd0,0) |
| 05:08.48 | wols_ | boohemian: your /dev/sda1 is your /boot ? |
| 05:08.50 | cantido | root to grub is only what contains the kernel/initramfs isnt it? |
| 05:09.18 | wols_ | cantido: and grub itself |
| 05:09.39 | cantido | has long forgotten how most of this stuff works |
| 05:09.49 | wols_ | cantido: sorry, no. root fs is / boot is /boot which in his case has to be on an unencrypted partition which is /boot when mounted |
| 05:10.42 | cantido | root(hd0,0) means his /boot is on the first partition of hd0.. and then in the kernel params his / is some lvm vol |
| 05:10.43 | boohemian | wols_: yes /dev/sda1 is /boot ... |
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| 05:11.05 | cantido | boohemian: so if you run mount.. it should show that vol being mounted to / |
| 05:11.15 | cantido | if you want to confirm that / is what you think it is.. |
| 05:11.22 | wols_ | cantido: yes cause for grub, /root is its root |
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| 05:11.33 | wols_ | cantido: no |
| 05:11.43 | wols_ | boohemian: are you trying to boot with grub or with grub2? |
| 05:12.20 | boohemian | cantido: wols_ when i type mount i get /dev/mapper/vladimir-root on / type ext3 {rw,errors=remount-ro} |
| 05:12.40 | boohemian | grub2 wols_ . that's what installed when i did the upgrade, but i'll use grub if that's easier.... |
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| 05:13.04 | wols_ | boohemian: you showed us a grub1 config file |
| 05:13.18 | wols_ | boohemian: so are you using grub2 when it boots or grub1? |
| 05:13.28 | wols_ | and why didn't you show us grub.cfg like I asked you to? |
| 05:13.59 | cantido | I guess he selected the chainload option when grub got upgraded.. |
| 05:14.07 | wols_ | gives up. you simply don't know the basics for me to be able to help you, and I don't know enough of your encryption setup where you didn't even tell me what kind of encrpytion it is |
| 05:14.13 | cantido | or just hit enter |
| 05:14.14 | wols_ | cantido: not necessarily |
| 05:14.39 | boohemian | wols_: you want to see the entire grub.cfg file? it's ~150 lines, i can't write all of that verbatim |
| 05:15.05 | wols_ | boohemian: you showed us no part of grub.cfg at all so far |
| 05:15.06 | boohemian | cantido: i did upgrade to grub2 and it told me to run 'upgrade-from-grub-legacy |
| 05:15.16 | boohemian | i did that, and then restarted. this is when all the problems started |
| 05:15.38 | boohemian | wols_: well, when did you ask to see the grub.cfg? i wrote out menu.lst earlier... |
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| 05:16.11 | boohemian | wols_: i'm not sure if i'm using grub2 or grub1 when i boot the system up |
| 05:16.21 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.37 | wols_ | and your answer to these questions was to show menu.lst |
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| 05:17.11 | akio | I'm having an issue running a dpkg-reconfigure -a |
| 05:17.49 | akio | It aborts when it gets to cron with the error:dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: couldn't identify the package |
| 05:18.00 | wols_ | !tell akio about bat |
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| 05:18.39 | boohemian | wols_: no my answer was what came up when i searched for 'root' in grub.cfg... |
| 05:18.52 | cantido | wonders why a bunch of stuff has started to segfault unless rebuilds the debs |
| 05:19.34 | wols_ | boohemian: why would grub2 chainload itself again... and grub.cfg looks very different from menu.lst. what you pasted is menu.lst |
| 05:20.51 | boohemian | wols_: these are all the mentions of 'root' in grub.cfg... 1) set root=')hd0,msdos1)' 2) set locale_dir=)$root)/grub/locale and then the mentions of what i posted from menu.lst (which is also showing in grub.cfg) |
| 05:21.19 | wols_ | http://pastie.org/private/suerez4xjl72u0m7rlx49g is a menu.lst. grub.cfg uses "linux" instead of "kernel". but you are arguing when you should fix your problem. good day |
| 05:21.20 | boohemian | isn't insmod a grub2 only command... so i am using grub2? or at least grub.cfg is a grub2 config file? |
| 05:21.45 | wols_ | boohemian: I doN't know what you use and and I don't really care |
| 05:22.18 | boohemian | okay, so it says linux instead of kernel inside grub.cfg, it otherwise looks the same |
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| 05:22.34 | boohemian | oh and it loads insmod part_msdos and insmod ext2... i guess i was wrong, sorry |
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| 05:24.30 | akio | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/126571/ |
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| 05:25.33 | wols_ | akio: if you /etc/init.d/cron stop ? |
| 05:25.56 | wols_ | akio: and what did you do to need dpkg-reconfigure -a ? |
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| 05:26.58 | boohemian | what if i just use lilo? |
| 05:27.28 | cantido | boohemian: what is the actual message you see when it boots? |
| 05:27.29 | akio | wols_: I am fixing up a Xen template provided by a VPS host. |
| 05:27.46 | akio | Not the template, I am the customer with the VPS. |
| 05:27.52 | wols_ | akio: why is it that badly configured that it needs a reconfigure -a? |
| 05:27.55 | akio | And my man pages aren't there. |
| 05:27.59 | cantido | boohemian: you should really drop into a rescue shell.. you shouldnt get a rootfs panic, because you should have an initramfs.. |
| 05:28.40 | boohemian | cantido: i am in a rescue shell from the netinstall CD |
| 05:28.51 | akio | I'm guessing lang was set to posix, and I was guessing that the man pages were never generated properly and so I figured the package scripts would handle that for me. |
| 05:29.02 | cantido | boohemian: you should get dropping into busybox from the initramfs |
| 05:29.12 | cantido | boohemian: s/dropping/dropped/ |
| 05:29.17 | boohemian | cantido: this is what i see loading Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 ... / loading inital ramdisk ... / error: out of partition. / [ 0.241997] kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 05:29.22 | akio | It was set to posix, I set it to en_US.utf8 |
| 05:30.01 | akio | wols_: cron was already stopped |
| 05:31.10 | cantido | boohemian: I might not be remembering 100%, but you shouldnt get that panic.. because at that stage your rootfs is the initramfs.. |
| 05:31.27 | cantido | boohemian: its possible that is the problem and not your actual rootfs |
| 05:31.38 | akio | wols_: looks like it has something to do with: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=604163 |
| 05:33.06 | boohemian | cantido: which means? |
| 05:33.26 | cantido | boohemian: try to post the full boot log somewhere |
| 05:34.14 | cantido | boohemian: basically, in a modern linux system the rootfs first mounted by the kernel isn't your disk.. so you shouldn't really hit that panic.. unless you have a custom kernel without initramfs support |
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| 05:35.07 | akio | wols_: I'm really just trying to get my man pages back. |
| 05:35.22 | cantido | if the scripts in the initramfs can't mount the real root you will get "waiting for root" or something a bunch of times then get dropped into a shell |
| 05:35.52 | wols_ | akio: but that is a bug way before squeeze went final and was tagged important. |
| 05:36.01 | wols_ | akio: start cron and run dpkg-reconfigure again |
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| 05:36.47 | akio | wols_: same error |
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| 05:37.11 | wols_ | akio: which .deb is it reconfiguring? |
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| 05:37.32 | akio | wols_: cron is what it fails on |
| 05:37.45 | wols_ | on the cron .deb? |
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| 05:38.59 | akio | How to tell? |
| 05:39.27 | akio | I installed tinc, I get no manpage afterwards. |
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| 05:40.12 | akio | I'm wondering if there is a locale variable that needs to be set somewhere for things to work properly. |
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| 05:42.26 | wols_ | manpage for what? what is your actual problem? |
| 05:42.59 | wols_ | and what made you run dpkg-reconfigure -a? cause you cannot install a package like tinc if dpkg things a dpkg-reconfigure run is needed. |
| 05:43.33 | wols_ | generally it happens when you ctrl+c a package installation or a really grave error happens when you try to install some package(s) |
| 05:43.50 | akio | It didn't prompt me, maybe I misunderstood what actually happens when that is run. I was thinking there would be package scripts that would be responsible for generating the man pages. |
| 05:44.15 | akio | My problem is that I don't have my man pages. |
| 05:44.41 | wols_ | akio: man ls |
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| 05:44.51 | akio | manpath isn't set |
| 05:45.00 | akio | that works |
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| 05:46.15 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.23 | wols_ | what works? man ls works? |
| 05:46.39 | akio | yes |
| 05:46.45 | wols_ | so what is your actual problem, you obviously do "have my manpages" |
| 05:47.51 | cantido | are you sure tinc has a manpage.. |
| 05:47.57 | akio | checking now |
| 05:48.06 | akio | nope |
| 05:48.30 | cantido | so it doesnt have manpages, because it doesnt have any..? |
| 05:48.35 | akio | I figured it did because I ran a dpkg-query -L tinc and saw the man files. |
| 05:48.53 | akio | /usr/share/man/man5,8 |
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| 05:49.17 | akio | I guess those are dummy files. |
| 05:49.55 | wols_ | akio: what is your actual problem? and this time describe it fully please |
| 05:50.13 | akio | wols_: Sorry, I don't think I actually have a problem now. |
| 05:50.42 | cantido | likes happy endings |
| 05:51.08 | akio | I'm wondering why I had to do this instead of read a manpage normally: zcat /usr/share/man/man5/tinc.conf.5.gz | less |
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| 05:53.09 | scanf | how can i install linux to an existing filesystem and keep an existing /home |
| 05:53.09 | akio | wols_: You should slap me hard now, I had to correctly select the manpage for "tincd". |
| 05:53.40 | akio | wols_: Also, man tinc.conf |
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| 05:53.44 | cantido | scanf: /home is in the same partition as the place you want to install? |
| 05:53.46 | akio | hides |
| 05:54.08 | cantido | akio: man -k tinc should have listed it ;) |
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| 05:54.21 | scanf | cantido: no i have another linux installed and i want to install debian over it, but keep my slices, overwritingeverything but /home |
| 05:54.40 | scanf | of course ill have to make a new home skeleton for each, but otherthanthat |
| 05:54.42 | akio | cantido: Thanks for the tip, didn't know about -k. |
| 05:54.44 | cantido | scanf: you should be able to format / without touching /home |
| 05:55.01 | scanf | what about when the installer adds users |
| 05:55.05 | akio | I knew about apropos though... |
| 05:55.07 | wols_ | scanf: slices? are you running a BSD? |
| 05:55.20 | scanf | wols_: archlinux with LUKS/LVM |
| 05:55.45 | cantido | scanf: you will lose your users... when you create new ones $HOME shouldnt get overwritten |
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| 05:56.57 | jaggz | my spamassassin is reporting high levels.. I'm not sure which option prevents this: [**** SPAM 28.3 ****] |
| 05:57.08 | cantido | scanf: if you install debian, when you get to the partioning stage, tell it that you want to keep your current layout and give it the right one for / and tell it to format it.. |
| 05:57.17 | jaggz | required_score is 5.0 ... |
| 05:57.36 | cantido | scanf: then once its running you can put the correct partition/vol for /home back in your fs tab |
| 05:57.50 | scanf | cantido: can i preserve my LUKS+LVM layout? |
| 05:58.14 | jaggz | anyone know which setting actually stops the high-ranked spam messages? |
| 05:58.15 | cantido | scanf: try it, I think so |
| 05:58.41 | cantido | scanf: just when it gets to the partitioning stage make sure you dont hit "use whole disk".. select manual |
| 05:58.56 | scanf | which netinst image shold i use |
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| 05:59.20 | cantido | scanf: I would guess for 99.99% of people the i386 or amd64 one |
| 05:59.57 | scanf | amd64, but which version |
| 06:00.11 | cantido | scanf: if you have a slow connection get the bigger image .. the ~200mb one |
| 06:01.03 | wols_ | jaggz: stops? spamassassin doesn't stop anything, it simply assigns a score, no more no less |
| 06:01.07 | cantido | I think, don't quote me here, the 200MB one actually has enough to install a base system |
| 06:01.17 | wols_ | cantido: it does. it's netinst |
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| 06:01.29 | cantido | wols_: the business card one doesnt though does it? |
| 06:01.46 | cantido | wols_: i.e. you cant do an offline install with it |
| 06:01.51 | wols_ | yep. businesscard needs a network connection while installing to get the base system |
| 06:02.17 | goodman | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.23 | cantido | the 200MB is the best of both worlds.. if you have internet great, if not it has enough to get something running so that you can get online :) |
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| 06:04.56 | cantido | Is there anything like SMART for CF cards? getting some worrying errors from a CF card based system.. and SMART doesnt seem to work :/ |
| 06:06.04 | wols_ | there isn't :( |
| 06:06.32 | cantido | dang |
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| 06:23.02 | jaggz | wols, oh.. hmm.. |
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| 06:23.14 | jaggz | well I get too much spam :( |
| 06:23.55 | cantido | jaggz: try greylistd |
| 06:24.07 | cantido | jaggz: I dont need sa anymore it works so well |
| 06:25.29 | goodman | ... |
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| 06:29.08 | wols_ | jaggz: you have your own mailserver? |
| 06:29.34 | jaggz | yeah |
| 06:29.41 | jaggz | cantido, looking into it, thanks |
| 06:29.44 | wols_ | and what are you using to filter your spam? |
| 06:30.00 | jaggz | nothing :/ postfix + spamassassin was what I thought was the right way |
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| 06:30.59 | wols_ | spamassassin is a mail scorer. it scores mail "this is spam" or "this is not spam". it doesn't filter. all it does is adding a header entry with the score. you then have to you something else, procmail is popular for example, to filter out the mail spamassassin has tagged as spam |
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| 06:31.56 | jaggz | I'm reading it with TB.. |
| 06:32.14 | anomaly | is there not a way to recursively go through a directory and its subdirectories, replacing instances of foo.x with foo.y in files? I have about 50 files in various subdirectories under /var/www. I can use perl -pi -e 's/\.aspx/.html/g' index.html but I would want it to go through all of /var/www |
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| 06:32.44 | wols_ | anomaly: find with -exec for example |
| 06:33.26 | jaggz | here's something.. Trust junk mail headers set by: SpamAssassin .. but it doesn't have a rank value.. just "Move new junk to [other folder]" and "Automatically delete junk older than x days" |
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| 06:47.38 | anomaly | wols_ apparently I fail at it..heh. find /var/www "aspx" -exec perl -pi -e 's/\.aspx/.html/g' *.aspx {} \; just gives me 'Can't do inplace edit: /var/www is not a regular file' with listings for each directory under /var/www |
| 06:47.47 | besson3c | Hey guys… I'm attempting to install a Debian VM within KVM on a Debian host, and I'm getting the error message to my virtio disk at install time "operation not permitted during write". What's up with that? The NFS directory used by KVM is writable by libvirt-qemu:kvm, I can create new disk images via virt-manager too |
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| 06:49.13 | Kartagis | in Users and Groups dialog, Don't request password checkbox is disabled. how can I enable it? |
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| 06:51.06 | k-man | I need to run an ftp server internaly, so this stupid network scanner I have has somewhere to dump its scans |
| 06:51.11 | k-man | which one should I use? |
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| 06:51.27 | Kartagis | vsftpd |
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| 06:52.03 | besson3c | Hmmm.. It only gives me that problem for Guided LVM. |
| 06:52.17 | k-man | thanks Kartagis |
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| 06:53.14 | Kartagis | np |
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| 07:59.46 | xrfang | while using debconf in a deb file, I keep getting this message: DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND： parameter not defined |
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| 08:00.02 | xrfang | I am building a deb package, any hint please? |
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| 08:01.42 | kuznetzvo | in debian squeeze, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver gives you a menu to reconfig the x serv, such as input device and resolution, right? |
| 08:04.12 | wols_ | kuznetzvo: no |
| 08:04.29 | kuznetzvo | ah. |
| 08:04.32 | wols_ | and it hasn't done this since lenny or so, ever since xorg went autoconfiguring |
| 08:04.51 | kuznetzvo | last time i messed with debian before this month was etch days |
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| 08:08.10 | kuznetzvo | the google results all say that should work. some of them are from may2010, not sure about the others. bad information it appears. |
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| 08:10.44 | berarma | kuznetzvo: outdated information, google lists first older pages |
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| 08:14.30 | claw | how to grep a field of an .csv file ? i know there was an shell application where you can define an seperator |
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| 08:18.28 | archboxman | claw: is this what your trying to do with fields grep "^[^,]\+,[^,]\+,12," file.csv |
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| 08:20.55 | sweetpi | claw: your likely thinking of awk |
| 08:21.34 | archboxman | claw: or is this for list of books not xcel files looks like this ookfile=$(cat books.csv) |
| 08:21.36 | archboxman | printf "%s\n" "$bookfile" | grep -i horror |
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| 08:22.28 | Polysics | hello |
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| 08:22.38 | archboxman | claw: what way are u trying to use the grep field in csv??? |
| 08:22.54 | Polysics | ubuntu 11.04 sucks, can anyone please recommend a suitable debian-based substitute? |
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| 08:23.20 | babilen | Polysics: Debian! |
| 08:23.39 | Polysics | babilen, i might just go that way :-D |
| 08:23.57 | Polysics | can nvidia drivers be installed? i have 3 debian servers but never tried it on a desktop |
| 08:24.16 | babilen | Polysics: Do you have a working wireless connection during the installation? What kind of hardware are you installing it on? |
| 08:24.28 | babilen | Polysics: Yes, nvidia drivers are available. |
| 08:24.36 | babilen | !tell Polysics -about nvidia |
| 08:24.38 | babilen | !tell Polysics -about nvidia dkms |
| 08:24.49 | Polysics | babilen, acer aspire notebook with 4 Gb of RAM and a Core 2 Duo T5600 |
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| 08:25.02 | kuznetzvo | dkms is nice. you will like it |
| 08:25.07 | Polysics | i suppose it has plenty of power even if it is getting a little old |
| 08:25.10 | babilen | Polysics: You should have no problems with that hardware -- Do you have a working internet connection? |
| 08:25.21 | archboxman | Polysics: what is your idea here... What is a debian stable server is not going to allow for no properitry software... hence I don't think it comes with firefox as a standard ,but Icewesiel defualt web browser... |
| 08:25.41 | Polysics | i have a couple dozen internet connections available :-D |
| 08:25.45 | babilen | archboxman: iceweasel is just a rebranded firefox |
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| 08:25.51 | babilen | Polysics: wired? |
| 08:26.02 | Polysics | wired and wireless - does that matter? |
| 08:26.07 | Polysics | i use google chrome anyway |
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| 08:26.20 | Ragnar | is there a way to tell syslog to NOT do dns queries? I am doing some remote loggings, and, in my local bind query log, localhost is doing like 100 queries per minute |
| 08:26.22 | archboxman | babilen: I understand that had problems using it with some of the php and java drive sites... |
| 08:26.25 | Ragnar | if I stop syslogd, that disappears |
| 08:26.31 | Ragnar | is there any way to fix? |
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| 08:27.10 | babilen | Polysics: Well, the installer doesn't support WPA yet, so I recommend to use the wired connection during the installation. You *might* also need firmware for some of your components, but you can provide that during the installation or use a semi-official image with firmware. |
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| 08:27.25 | babilen | !tell Polysics -about installer firmware |
| 08:27.30 | babilen | !tell Polysics -about firmware image |
| 08:27.49 | Polysics | so the main "difference" with ubuntu installation is that ubuntu spports more hw out of the box? |
| 08:27.55 | babilen | archboxman: You can easily use a user agent switcher for those broken websites. |
| 08:28.12 | Polysics | not that i care, 11.04 is simply insane and someone should sue Canonical for ruining Linux |
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| 08:28.50 | archboxman | babilen: Didn't play with Debian that long to figure that out.... Was enough just to run debian |
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| 08:30.44 | Polysics | i suppose many of you are using debian o nthe desktop |
| 08:31.00 | Polysics | with what DE? |
| 08:31.25 | archboxman | Polysics: Don't mistaken Ubuntu with a lot of linux distro's having trouble with Grub2 and Gnome 3.... Where I fell most of the problems are coming from are the Grub2 there are lots of complaints from most distro's about raid setups.... |
| 08:31.28 | babilen | Polysics: Well, both of them use the same kernel, but Ubuntu happily ship non-free firmware while Debian does not. This is due to a difference in the philosophy and aim of both distributions. Ubuntu tries to make it as "easy" for the user as possible while Debian aims for outstanding technical quality and free software. (Even if it means that users suffer) |
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| 08:32.42 | babilen | Polysics: And if the main reason for you to dislike Ubuntu is their desktop: You can easily switch to classic gnome or a different DE -- Not that trying/using Debian is worth it though :) |
| 08:33.16 | Polysics | babilen, the main gripe i have right now is that they changed the systray system from something that worked to... something that doesn't |
| 08:33.58 | Ragnar | fixed it by adding the remote servers hostname/ip into /etc/hosts |
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| 08:34.14 | babilen | Polysics: Well, as I said: You can easily switch to gnome classic -- but that is a topic for #ubuntu -- You still might want to give Debian a try, just wanted to mention it. |
| 08:34.48 | xrfang | anyone can help on debconf problem? |
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| 08:34.55 | archboxman | Polysics: Agreed many people were apposed to the indicator-applet and it started to hose up cpu usage with unrelated cpu usage at 70% or higher |
| 08:35.21 | Polysics | babilen, the new indicator thing is on all DEs excluding KDE, and i'd rather shave my balls with a cheese grater than run that :-D |
| 08:35.42 | Polysics | archboxman, the new applet or the old gobbles CPU? |
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| 08:36.12 | berarma | Polysics: going away from ubuntu because being angry at them isn't a good idea, but if you're the kind of person that never tried another distro and never thinked of it maybe you like Debian and stay with it |
| 08:36.24 | Polysics | i started on Slackware |
| 08:36.47 | Polysics | brief stint with a few RPM-based distros, then i have always used Ubuntu |
| 08:37.05 | babilen | Polysics: Sure, I am not an Ubuntu user, but a lot of people come here due to Unity and are not aware that they can use the classic layout easily. /me is happy if you are happy |
| 08:37.20 | archboxman | Polysics: Both were known to grab cpu usage... either one would interfer with apps like Facebook and Chrome the display wont quit cycling around identify the app is in the notifaction bar.. |
| 08:37.38 | Polysics | berarma, i am not particularly angry, i just do not like the direction they have taken because a) they are appropriating the Linux name, basically and b) they have started taking incredibly inane decisions |
| 08:37.51 | Polysics | it feels like the Windows ME and Vista era all over again |
| 08:37.55 | babilen | heh |
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| 08:38.29 | berarma | Polysics: every linux distro has its goals and direction |
| 08:38.39 | Polysics | and if you become "the face" of Linux, you can't start goofing up at every step |
| 08:38.55 | Polysics | berarma, the goals of unity aren't very clear to me :-D |
| 08:39.19 | Polysics | i think it is really time to go "politic" and make a stand with Debian |
| 08:39.29 | berarma | they are on their right to make their own decissions, as to say they're the face on linux I disagree |
| 08:39.56 | babilen | Polysics berarma: As much as I agree with you I would still like to point that this discussion is rather one for #debian-offtopic |
| 08:40.07 | Polysics | babilen, ok, enough politics :-D |
| 08:40.08 | babilen | point out that is :) |
| 08:40.28 | babilen | Polysics: Indeed download → install → work |
| 08:40.33 | Polysics | what DE would you recommend? |
| 08:40.34 | archboxman | Polysics: dont take it so personnel they don't represent the whole linux community... Slackware, Gentoo, Arch Linux and even other distro's dont take the idea of the computer won't break so personally... Also most of the distros I listed before don't usually have a reason to fear then last way over 3 to 5 years without hickups |
| 08:41.05 | Polysics | i suppose debian does not have a preferred desktop, but maybe some are better maintained packages |
| 08:41.29 | babilen | Polysics: I personally use awesome, but that is no DE just a WM -- Take a look at XFCE and LXDE if you are looking for lighter DEs or fluxbox, awesome, wmii if you are looking for a WM |
| 08:41.41 | Polysics | archboxman, to me and you they do not, to non-IT magazines and news they do though |
| 08:41.47 | Polysics | never heard of awesome |
| 08:41.52 | babilen | Polysics: AFAICT they are all pretty well maintained |
| 08:42.41 | berarma | Polysics: since you're interested on distro politics you might want to read the Debian social contract |
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| 08:43.00 | babilen | !tell Polysics about dfsg |
| 08:43.06 | archboxman | Still got to give worst experience ever to Windows Me |
| 08:43.07 | berarma | Polysics: gnome used to be the default desktop, it's what I use (gnome3) |
| 08:43.22 | Polysics | gnome 3 is in by default? |
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| 08:43.39 | berarma | Polysics: no, it's what I use but it's not still in stable nor testing |
| 08:44.02 | babilen | Polysics: No (in stable/testing and unstable) -- but gnome3 is currently in transition |
| 08:44.04 | Polysics | archboxman, Vista was close, VERY cloze. both of them also share the dubious record of basically having their existence denied by Microsoft :-D |
| 08:44.09 | berarma | Polysics: you'll find gnome2 as current default |
| 08:44.47 | Polysics | the social contract has convinced me to try Debian :-D |
| 08:45.05 | Polysics | (not that i needed much to be convinced) |
| 08:45.19 | babilen | Polysics: You can choose whatever you want during the initial installation though (advnaced option in the first installer menu) or just install a minimal system first (just laptop+standard task) and take it from there. |
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| 08:45.43 | nsadmin | Polysics: yay! |
| 08:45.56 | Polysics | what i find fun in myself is that i spend hours tweaking a desktop, then spend 8 hours a day in a terminal and GVim... |
| 08:46.06 | Polysics | maybe i should just slap on LXDE and live happy |
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| 08:46.23 | nsadmin | or no x at all, and have a screamer |
| 08:46.42 | Polysics | i do like listening to some music fro mtime to time :-D |
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| 08:47.01 | anomaly | mp3blaster is a nice cli player as well as mplayer |
| 08:47.41 | archboxman | babilen: What is the direction Debian plans to take with sysv-rc-conf???? or speed up Distro boot times???? |
| 08:47.48 | babilen | Polysics: If you are mainly a terminal + (g)vim person you'll love tiling WMs -- take a look at awesomewm, wmii, xmonad and dwm too if you have some time to burn. |
| 08:47.54 | Polysics | i might just build a fluxbox desktop |
| 08:47.59 | nsadmin | also you need not use your compuer for music at all... |
| 08:48.08 | Polysics | awesomewm home is down, apparently |
| 08:48.43 | nsadmin | anyway it doesn't look like you like the non-x choice that you have |
| 08:49.12 | Polysics | nsadmin, i need to test web apps in a browser, and only own 1 computer |
| 08:49.22 | Polysics | and lynx does not qualify :-D |
| 08:49.54 | babilen | archboxman: There is the consensus that the old init system has to go and systemd is being discussed. The problem with systemd is that it does not support some of the architectures of Debian that well (and a few other things) -- Nothing has been decided yet. If you are interested you can read this gigantic thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/07/msg00269.html |
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| 08:50.29 | babilen | archboxman: Debian switched to parallelised boot with Squeeze and the boot performance is pretty good IMHO, so that is not the driving force behind it. |
| 08:50.55 | babilen | Polysics: yes, it is down -- hehe, good timing ;) |
| 08:51.46 | flamingspinach | after returning from hibernation on my laptop, all GTK+ applications seem to show font corruption, whereas Qt applications do not. How do I fix this? |
| 08:51.48 | archboxman | babilen: I figured this was apperent with ubuntu's remarks on a change in boot ideas... Just wanted to here if Debian had seen the discussion and was aiming to something like Arch Linux or Slackware??? |
| 08:51.49 | berarma | Polysics: you can look for videos on youtube |
| 08:53.10 | Polysics | i might also go back to Slak |
| 08:53.13 | Polysics | *Slack |
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| 08:53.20 | Polysics | that would be a statement :-D |
| 08:53.21 | archboxman | babilen: I will read the article to see the discussion this is a definite interests to me |
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| 08:53.45 | berarma | flamingspinach: I'd say that's a problem in the video driver, maybe gtk apps use video acceleration for fonts while qt not |
| 08:54.14 | flamingspinach | hmm. |
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| 08:55.05 | flamingspinach | as far as I can tell, nothing other than text is affected |
| 08:55.10 | flamingspinach | images display fine, etc. |
| 08:55.15 | berarma | flamingspinach: maybe I'm completely wrong but it's another direction to look for |
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| 08:55.22 | sakratoo | hi folks |
| 08:55.22 | sakratoo | how can i access wildcard values in logrotate scripts? |
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| 08:56.37 | babilen | berarma: Be warned though: It is a *long* thread with a bit of bike-shedding, but it should give you a good overview. |
| 08:56.38 | claw | i want to create many folders with one command. why does "mkdir < file" not work to me when file = "folder1 folder2 ... folder23" |
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| 08:57.25 | themill | claw: you want xargs for that. |
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| 08:57.48 | claw | okay ill read about that :) thx |
| 08:58.27 | elyob | Bugery bugger. |
| 08:58.28 | berarma | flamingspinach: which video driver are you using? |
| 08:58.34 | elyob | Buggery* |
| 08:59.00 | elyob | Got remote access to my my machine, but it's now claiming read only access to sudo su etc |
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| 08:59.06 | archboxman | babilen: Very interesting to say the least.... I also follow libmtp which is used to connect mp3 players such as ipod , sansu etc... Funny since the introduction of so many tablets and set to pass 200 by January world wide... Seems now libmtp is responsible for connectivity for tablets as well ... Last I seen they were testing the Samsung Galaxy... |
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| 08:59.19 | elyob | Can't do a reboot .. as that's read only |
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| 08:59.45 | elyob | "sudo: Can't open /var/lib/sudo/elyob/5: Read-only file system" |
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| 09:00.30 | elyob | "bash: /sbin/reboot: Input/output error" |
| 09:00.41 | elyob | This is very annoying |
| 09:01.19 | ksk | gz |
| 09:01.28 | ksk | filesystem related error!? |
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| 09:03.19 | archboxman | Nice chatting going to run along and play xbox 360... this has been fun... Crackdown on some folks... Drug dealers be aware... |
| 09:03.27 | archboxman | later... |
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| 09:09.43 | claw | how to give an variable multiple values ? for example if i want to create a file containing the name of the folder in the folder is ? mkdir $host ; echo "$host" > .$host/textfile |
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| 09:10.01 | bratner | hi! What is the debian way to make initrd show a busybox console before continuing to mount / and booting everything else? |
| 09:10.11 | bratner | s/initrd/initramfs/g |
| 09:10.27 | flamingspinach | berarma: GL_RENDERER = Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset |
| 09:10.29 | flamingspinach | is that what you're looking for? |
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| 09:11.23 | xrfang | how can I remove a badly broken deb package? as its debconf script has problem, I cannot remove it although I have updated the deb package |
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| 09:14.04 | berarma | flamingspinach: see this ubuntu bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/776736 |
| 09:14.47 | berarma | flamingspinach: I don't see it in debian, here's the bug page http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 09:15.26 | streuner | xrfang: please show us the whole output in a pastebin |
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| 09:16.30 | streuner | xrfang: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1, dpkg --purge <package> and dpkg -l <package> would be helpful. |
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| 09:17.23 | xrfang | streuner, I will try it first. I am in a virtual environment which disabled clipboard. If your trick does not work , I will do a screenshot |
| 09:17.54 | nsadmin | disabled network? |
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| 09:22.36 | xrfang | yes, no network in virtual machine |
| 09:22.50 | arafangion | Why don't you enable it? |
| 09:23.00 | xrfang | http://ubuntuone.com/p/1BCZ/ |
| 09:23.08 | xrfang | this is the output of dpkg commands |
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| 09:23.17 | xrfang | arafangion, company policy |
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| 09:24.10 | streuner | xrfang: #ubuntu |
| 09:24.20 | arafangion | xrfang: Weird. I can understand the justification, but surely they'd allow a virtual network at the least, as long as it doesn't go onto the company network. |
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| 09:24.53 | arafangion | Ah, yeah, that's not Debian. |
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| 09:25.03 | xrfang | arafangion, the other way round, virtual machine for development, no network |
| 09:25.31 | xrfang | I was about to ask a debconf problem so I went to #debian, but now I think I first have to remove the broken package |
| 09:25.33 | arafangion | That sounds painful as heck. |
| 09:25.55 | arafangion | xrfang: This is an ubuntu issue, not debian. |
| 09:26.04 | xrfang | as ubuntu uses deb system, I think it is better ask here. It is a policy not to answer questions from ubuntu user here? |
| 09:26.29 | simonlnu | it's another distro. we don't support other distros. |
| 09:26.32 | xrfang | arafangion, the message is very clear, but you mean, that this status should not happen in debian, but only in ubuntu |
| 09:26.45 | themill | xrfang: ubuntu support is in #ubuntu; debian support is in #debian. We can't know how the pacakges you're looking at are different. |
| 09:26.46 | arafangion | xrfang: That particular package would not be found on a debian system. |
| 09:26.53 | xrfang | ok, I personally think it is a question about capability of the dpkg system |
| 09:27.02 | xrfang | arafangion, this is a home made package |
| 09:27.03 | arafangion | xrfang: The packages are different. The package dependencies are different, and the package configuration is different. |
| 09:27.06 | simonlnu | irrelevant |
| 09:27.07 | xrfang | it has nothing to do with ubuntu |
| 09:27.09 | themill | xrfang: you got your dpkg from ubuntu. Please move on. |
| 09:27.23 | arafangion | Infact, do they even use the same apt version? |
| 09:27.45 | xrfang | this is not even an apt problem. as the package is installed via dpkg -i, not apt-get. |
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| 09:27.58 | arafangion | xrfang: Those are frontends to apt. |
| 09:27.58 | themill | xrfang: please stop arguing and go to #ubuntu. |
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| 09:28.58 | claw | how to give an variable multiple values ? for example if i want to create a file containing the name of the folder in the folder is ? mkdir $host ; echo "$host" > .$host/textfile |
| 09:29.15 | arafangion | themill: It's frustrating how much people confuse debian and ubuntu. :( |
| 09:29.35 | simonlnu | that's not confusion |
| 09:29.42 | arafangion | simonlnu: What is it? |
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| 09:30.06 | arafangion | claw: You can't. That said, I think bash lets you use arrays, but with a weird syntax. #bash is extremely good. |
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| 09:30.16 | simonlnu | that's thinking they're right and 20 other people are wrong |
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| 09:31.24 | jelly | arafangion: it's frustrating there's no dpkg/libapt support channel |
| 09:31.43 | themill | jelly: it's a distribution tool, the distribution should support it. |
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| 09:31.58 | jelly | themill: it's also software |
| 09:32.09 | streuner | #ubuntu and #debian arent still enough, among many other channels? |
| 09:32.09 | arafangion | jelly: I find that the package dependencies are much more significant than the package tool itself. |
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| 09:33.13 | themill | moves the discussion over to #debian-offtopic |
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| 09:41.43 | streuner | as the overguru said, users want solutions, no matter HOW they come... |
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| 09:44.10 | x29a_ | good morning, im trying to pack a .deb for an arm architecture, but i get the error: dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: no dependency information found for mylib.so - how would i generate that information? i have the .so in place but that doesnt seem to be enough. the target is an n900 smartphone, so the package is crosscompiled using the qtsdk |
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| 09:45.56 | jelly | x29a_: I don't think dpkg-shlibdeps deals well (or at all) with crosscompilation |
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| 09:47.57 | x29a_ | jelly: the provided libs that come with the sdk (version 1.0.2 of qt mobility) work though. as soon as i delete them and place my new .so in the /lib dir, it wont work. so there must be a file or place with extra information |
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| 09:49.07 | jelly | x29a_: either that, or you forgot a detail like running ldconfig |
| 09:49.28 | jelly | x29a_: does ldd on the destination system show what's missing |
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| 09:51.56 | x29a_ | jelly: i dont get that far. packaging the .deb on the host is broken already. normally, the .deb then gets transfered and installed on the target, so i can run it. i can of course copy the binary over along with the libs, but thats very complicated for a developing process |
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| 09:52.32 | jelly | x29a_: avoid dpkg-shlibs and write in dependencies manually? |
| 09:52.57 | jelly | er, dpkg-shlibdeps |
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| 09:55.10 | x29a_ | ok, where are the dependencies put down? afaik, i dont even have/need dependencies, but the process is provided by the sdk im using |
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| 09:57.04 | jelly | !nmg |
| 09:57.04 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ , http://wiki.debian.org/Courses2005/BuildingWithoutHelper |
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| 09:57.27 | x29a_ | thanks |
| 09:57.36 | jelly | x29a_: debian/control and other files in debian/ subdir of the unpacked source |
| 09:58.45 | jelly | !debian/rules |
| 09:58.45 | dpkg | debian/rules is the makefile used when building a .deb from source, edit it to change compilation options. Be aware that some packages use sophisticated build systems that should be documented in debian/README.source. Also remember to make a new entry in debian/changelog with "~yourname" (for a backport) or "+yourname" (for a recompile) added to the version number. See also <makefile>, <hold>, <package recompile>, <source>. |
| 10:00.01 | jelly | x29a_: might be as simple as getting rid of the shlibs bits in control and rules |
| 10:00.26 | x29a_ | ok, i got that file, ill look into it |
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| 10:00.41 | Ragnar | anything logged by rsyslog, is it being put into /var/logs/syslog? |
| 10:00.46 | jelly | however you probably should ask in the channel for the destination system... n900 doesn't sound like Debian |
| 10:00.56 | Ragnar | or is there a way to set it so stuff from remote by pass /var/log/syslog |
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| 10:01.47 | jelly | Ragnar: you can edit /etc/rsyslog.conf and tell the service what to log, or not log, to that file |
| 10:02.08 | x29a_ | jelly: its maemo which is based on debian, so the principles are the same. fun fact: dh_shlibdeps is already commented out in my deb/rules |
| 10:02.12 | dominikb | hi! i am trying to create deb-packages with pyside-assistant for harmattan. harmattan's python version is 2.6, i am running natty with 2.7.1 on amd64. unfortunately when running dh_python2 a dependency for python 2.7.1-0ubuntu2 is introduced. why is that so? |
| 10:02.14 | Ragnar | jelly: I have done so |
| 10:02.24 | x29a_ | weird setup, weird things happening. but i think i know where to go from here. thanks a lot |
| 10:02.29 | Ragnar | but stuff seems only to be replicated over to the log file |
| 10:02.36 | Ragnar | and will still appear in /var/log/syslog |
| 10:02.39 | dominikb | is that somehow related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/712741 ? |
| 10:03.50 | jelly | dominikb: uh, can you reproduce your issue in Debian? |
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| 10:04.48 | jelly | x29a_: this channel does not deal with derivatives, too little knowhow and too much noise |
| 10:05.46 | dominikb | jelly: ok, thanks. but dh_python2 shouldn't behave like that, should it? |
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| 10:06.59 | themill | dominikb: #debian-python on irc.oftc.net helps with python packaging for debian and ubuntu packages. |
| 10:07.11 | jelly | dominikb: I have no idea how it's supposed to act, in Ubuntu or otherwise, I just can recognize a question about derivatives when I see one |
| 10:07.22 | themill | dominikb: (you'll find people who've even heard of dh_python2 in there; you'll find few in #debian) |
| 10:07.29 | dominikb | themill: thanks! |
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| 10:08.33 | Ragnar | jelly: are you as blank as I am in this? |
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| 10:14.28 | claw | if i echo \$var it echos "$var" what do i have to do if i realy want to echo "\$var" |
| 10:14.31 | claw | ? |
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| 10:15.53 | petemc | claw: \\$var |
| 10:16.04 | claw | thx |
| 10:19.31 | claw | petemc, and if i want to echo "\\$var" ? |
| 10:19.40 | claw | \\\\$var? |
| 10:20.36 | claw | no that does not work |
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| 10:21.30 | themill | at some stage, using printf is easier. |
| 10:22.09 | Bushmills | echo '\$var' |
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| 10:27.44 | dominikb | jelly, themill: thanks! #debian-python was a good hint! |
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| 10:28.25 | claw | i dont get .... |
| 10:28.31 | claw | nothing works at all |
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| 10:45.37 | hroi | the wget that ships with debian behaves funny, it saves my downloads to a file called "download" |
| 10:45.53 | hroi | instead of using the name at the end of the URL. |
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| 10:46.11 | themill | hroi: specifically what URL? |
| 10:46.17 | iderik | When reading about Debian, i can see it is from GNU/Linux but sometimes it also says from "Unix". Isnt that two different things? |
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| 10:47.32 | berarma | hroi: it uses the base name of the url and I think it's the normal behaviour |
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| 10:48.16 | berarma | iderik: Debian GNU/Linux is just that, it's an operating system inspired on Unix but nothing else |
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| 10:55.04 | lyte | anyone encountered a "mdadm: failed to remove internal bitmap." while recovering from a fully degraded array? will i be able to remove it if i degrade the array again so that it's not actively syncing? |
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| 11:01.14 | x29a | jelly: you got to be kidding me. the rules file seems hypercritical about tabs/blanks. i commented out that whole section, now it builds fine but cant find the lib on the device, which should be fixable with LD_LIB_PATH. thanks so much for you guidance, this was a big help |
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| 11:02.30 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 11:04.48 | babilen | x29a: It is a makefile where you have to use tabs ... so no surprise there |
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| 11:05.27 | x29a | babilen: my ide uses spaces for tabs, i just didnt think of it |
| 11:06.09 | babilen | x29a: I encourage the "spaces everywhere" approach, but it is just wrong in makefiles |
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| 11:26.55 | jelly | x29a: rules file is a Makefile, with all the syntax nonsense that Makefile syntax brings oh babilen already said it all |
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| 11:36.48 | totte | I've got an install.itb file on a USB memory - it's not plain text, where do I find out what it's for? Didn't find anything relevant on Google. |
| 11:37.15 | Pinchiukas | Is there some kind of official Debian AMI image for Amazon EC2? |
| 11:37.38 | daemonkeeper | No(t yet). |
| 11:37.59 | Pinchiukas | Is it planning to materialize? |
| 11:38.19 | daemonkeeper | There is some discussion to provide installed images. |
| 11:38.32 | Pinchiukas | So I guess not for several months. :/ |
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| 11:39.00 | daemonkeeper | Amazon itself may or may not do that already. Debian itself does not provide official images, but you can probably use any image. |
| 11:39.49 | jelly | use, sure, but trust? |
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| 11:40.51 | daemonkeeper | No: I meant, it should not be that complicated to make your own image. I don't know how the Amazon stuff works, but if you can upload any image, just debootstrap a Debian and upload that? |
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| 11:43.40 | reisi | how could i recover from "unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: files list file for package 'base-files' is missing final newline" (whole file is corrupted, nothing like the other list files) |
| 11:43.54 | Pinchiukas | I've googled about that a bit and it seems quite a bit of work. :) |
| 11:44.06 | jelly | stupid google search, which I'm sure Pinchiukas already has done, gives out some info like http://wiki.debian.org/VMBuilder |
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| 11:45.31 | jelly | or http://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/CreateEC2Image |
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| 11:46.51 | jelly | which basically lists commands to do exactly what daemonkeeper suggests |
| 11:47.00 | Zap-W | hey is this full basic debian installation does it include the non free firmware drivers debian-live-6.0.1-amd64-rescue.iso |
| 11:47.11 | daemonkeeper | No, Zap-W |
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| 11:47.34 | daemonkeeper | !installer firmware |
| 11:47.34 | dpkg | Debian-Installer since Lenny is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04 and http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. http://deb.li/3tGse |
| 11:47.38 | daemonkeeper | err |
| 11:47.41 | daemonkeeper | !firmware images |
| 11:47.41 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Squeeze are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. http://deb.li/3tGse |
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| 12:16.09 | Pinchiukas | Anyone can help me with building an AMI image of Debian for myself? |
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| 12:18.12 | Zap-W | hey, what are the disk tools for partitioning a disk from the rescue image |
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| 12:19.23 | abrotman | fdisk ? cfdisk ? |
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| 12:23.45 | adminewb | running 6.0.2 / amd64, I'm having trouble figuring out where to start with hibernation; wiki suspend article is little help; this is no laptop |
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| 12:24.16 | CruX| | adminewb: from cmdline ? |
| 12:24.40 | adminewb | GUI preferred |
| 12:24.56 | adminewb | on xfce, there's a hibernate button |
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| 12:25.06 | CruX| | in kde there is also hibernate |
| 12:25.12 | wols_ | adminewb: and what happens if you press it? |
| 12:25.32 | adminewb | not much wols_ |
| 12:25.45 | wols_ | adminewb: how much swap space do you have and how much RAM? |
| 12:25.49 | CruX| | ok from cmdline execute as root: |
| 12:25.52 | CruX| | cat /sys/power/state |
| 12:26.00 | wols_ | CruX|: man pm-hibernate |
| 12:26.01 | CruX| | there is mem or disk |
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| 12:26.28 | CruX| | use echo disk > /sys/power/state |
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| 12:26.33 | CruX| | to suspend to disk |
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| 12:27.01 | CruX| | wols_: he can have problem with bios |
| 12:27.25 | berarma | someone is on steroids or something |
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| 12:28.05 | rudi95 | hi. i'm using debian squeeze. is it somehow possible to install kde-plasma-desktop without installing xserver-xorg? i got another xserver instead |
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| 12:29.36 | wols_ | rudi95: sure. it's always possible to install X clients without an xserver. disable recommends |
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| 12:30.03 | CruX| | berarma: who ? |
| 12:31.22 | rudi95 | wols_: ah cool. how do i disable recommends? |
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| 12:33.13 | rudi95 | ah ok i see |
| 12:33.32 | rudi95 | great feature that i wasn't aware of until now :) |
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| 12:36.12 | wols_ | !tell rudi95 about apt recommends |
| 12:37.39 | rudi95 | thanks alot :) |
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| 12:41.29 | adminewb | oops |
| 12:41.50 | adminewb | my net link was down a while before I noticed |
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| 12:44.05 | adminewb | when there's no network, are irc messages resent when connection is live again? using pidgin 2.7.3 |
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| 12:46.20 | adminewb | anyway for hibernate, I'd like to be able to tell the kernel something like 'resume=/dev/sda5' since it's a swap partition that is never mounted by anyone |
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| 12:46.44 | Kartagis | in Users and Groups dialog, "Don't request password" checkbox is disabled. how can I enable it? |
| 12:46.46 | adminewb | allocating one resume partition to linux (all installed distros) and having a paging file for windows to suspend to would make it faster to switch between |
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| 12:47.45 | adminewb | when attempting to hibernate from gui, a bit of console log shows briefly before the desktop comes right back; haven't figured out what log file it might be going to; none of the virtual terminals catches the log output |
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| 12:48.55 | adminewb | I understand that suspending one linux distro to run another wouldn't work, since they're sharing a few file systems between them, such as /home |
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| 12:51.04 | adminewb | can someone tell me which suspend-to-disk facility I should be installing or configuring? I can't tell one from another |
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| 12:52.16 | hugoroyd | OMG something really silly and funny is happening to me. I just installed debian at work (a COE netinstall) where some of the process was handled by a script (i cannot do other wise). Anyway, it did something wrong because : |
| 12:52.36 | hugoroyd | my user password (as well as my root paswword) contains a character that I cannot have with QUERTY |
| 12:52.51 | hugoroyd | so. . . I can't login |
| 12:53.00 | hugoroyd | (this is the moment you can laugh) |
| 12:54.01 | adminewb | have you tried booting run level 1? |
| 12:54.06 | hugoroyd | so, can you give me some help about how i can modify the root or the user password from the outside (i.e. with an ubuntu live cd?) |
| 12:54.55 | hugoroyd | (or if there's a way to have the AZERT keyboard at boot) |
| 12:55.22 | hugoroyd | adminewb: how can i do that? |
| 12:55.27 | hugoroyd | with grub? |
| 12:55.41 | adminewb | runlv 1 - aka recovery mode? |
| 12:55.53 | adminewb | yes grub should give you recovery menu items |
| 12:55.59 | hugoroyd | well, rescue mode asks for root password so same problem |
| 12:56.10 | adminewb | hmm, I've not seen that |
| 12:56.17 | hugoroyd | (it says rescue mode i believe, but i might be wrong, it's the CTRL+D to continue thing) |
| 12:56.26 | adminewb | never needed root pw on ubuntu's recovery |
| 12:57.08 | hugoroyd | well, this is debian squeeze, IMHO fedora also asks for root password at this stage |
| 12:57.20 | adminewb | on my grub2 menu (grub legacy's been obsolete for a long time) for every bootable kernel I get an alternate menu item for recovery / single-user mode |
| 12:57.20 | hugoroyd | s/IMHO/In my experience |
| 12:57.49 | adminewb | those runlv=1 items, none of them asks a pw to get to root shell |
| 12:57.53 | hugoroyd | if that is different from the rescue mode, I want to try that: but GRUB didn't give me the option, I guess I can write it manuallu thogh |
| 12:58.00 | adminewb | afk |
| 12:58.26 | adminewb | back |
| 12:58.43 | adminewb | grub might be configured to not produce the recovery menu items |
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| 12:59.09 | adminewb | look at /etc/default/grub |
| 12:59.30 | adminewb | oh, nvm, you can't login xD |
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| 12:59.48 | adminewb | I guess you would have to go in with a live CD boot or such like |
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| 13:00.21 | hugoroyd | adminewb: apparently i just hjave to edit the grub entry and add "single" in the kernel line than I will have a root shell |
| 13:00.48 | adminewb | correct |
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| 13:01.20 | adminewb | I think that's true of whatever version of grub you have |
| 13:01.27 | hugoroyd | i'll try that now |
| 13:01.29 | hugoroyd | thanks |
| 13:01.39 | hugoroyd | i'll come back and let you know if it works |
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| 13:04.49 | adminewb | wols_? can you tell me which suspend-to-disk facility I should be looking into? I can't tell one from another, the docs online are in (to me) total disarray |
| 13:05.24 | wols_ | adminewb: how much RAM do you have and how much swap? |
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| 13:05.45 | adminewb | I can adjust the swap space available, 3MiB system memory |
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| 13:06.24 | wols_ | adminewb: answer my question. this time please correctly |
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| 13:07.20 | adminewb | o.o |
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| 13:07.52 | wols_ | adminewb: no problem if you don't want to. good luck |
| 13:08.41 | adminewb | I made a dedicated swap space 6MiB, for the purpose of hibernate only; 3MiB system memory |
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| 13:09.06 | hugoroyd | adminewb: ok, so there was already a "single" option |
| 13:09.07 | adminewb | sorry 6GiB & 3GiB |
| 13:09.12 | hugoroyd | but this asks for root password |
| 13:09.17 | hugoroyd | so it does not resolve my problem |
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| 13:09.46 | adminewb | hugoroyd, this is ubuntu you're booting? |
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| 13:10.07 | hugoroyd | i'm just trying one of these : either boot with azerty keyboard so that I can type in my password / modify the password to be able to type it in QWERTY |
| 13:10.12 | hugoroyd | no this is debian squeeze |
| 13:10.13 | wols_ | !tell hugoroyd about forgot root password |
| 13:10.18 | hugoroyd | we're on debian irc right? :) |
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| 13:10.47 | hugoroyd | wols_: i don't get what you're saying |
| 13:11.01 | hugoroyd | i haven't forget my password, i can't type it in |
| 13:11.05 | wols_ | hugoroyd: dpkg messaged you the solution to your problem |
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| 13:11.12 | wols_ | the solution is the same: you set a new one |
| 13:11.31 | hugoroyd | yes i understood that |
| 13:11.34 | hugoroyd | but how can i do it |
| 13:11.41 | wols_ | read what dpkg messaged you |
| 13:11.43 | hugoroyd | that's what I've been asking :) |
| 13:11.47 | hugoroyd | oh alright |
| 13:11.52 | hugoroyd | i'm not used to this web client |
| 13:11.53 | hugoroyd | ^^ |
| 13:12.04 | adminewb | wols_, 6GiB swap & 3GiB system memory |
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| 13:14.08 | hugoroyd | ok thanks, i'll try that |
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| 13:17.11 | adminewb | it's 6GiB swap, 3GiB system memory |
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| 13:18.27 | BubonicPestilenc | Hey guys, help me find song please :) I remember that name of singer may include "elvis"; music video was: people dancing inside yellow rooms in big shelve; release date 2000-2005 |
| 13:18.31 | adminewb | the swap's not mounted at all, it's meant as dedicated to hibernate only |
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| 13:18.53 | babilen | BubonicPestilenc: Wrong channel -- try ##music or #defocus or something else. |
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| 13:30.29 | upIRC | So I am running out of disk-space for programs, I have a 50 gig reserve on the same HD resize is not option. Can I link the /bin directory to a folder on the reserve partiton. And anything else I need todo? |
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| 13:30.42 | DammitJim | my apt-get is broken: http://pastebin.com/QWFWMsdD |
| 13:30.49 | DammitJim | how can I fix that or where do I look to fix it? |
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| 13:32.56 | tvm | looks more like problem of that package instead of apt |
| 13:33.03 | DammitJim | the cron package? |
| 13:33.09 | Bushmills | ,versions smfpd |
| 13:33.11 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'smfpd' was found in i386. |
| 13:33.20 | DammitJim | hhhhmmmm |
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| 13:33.42 | Bushmills | nice try :) |
| 13:33.48 | DammitJim | apt-get remove smfpd? |
| 13:33.52 | upIRC | DammitJim: whats your apt/sources.list |
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| 13:34.18 | upIRC | I've had these problems many times, due to repos being miss-configured |
| 13:34.33 | DammitJim | http://pastebin.com/bc1HQt1c |
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| 13:34.57 | DammitJim | man, I should be in #debian-next, shouldn't I? |
| 13:35.05 | an0 | How long should it take for a 1TB USB disk to format using mkfs.ext4? |
| 13:35.07 | upIRC | DammitJim: It's legit |
| 13:35.08 | DammitJim | http://pastebin.com/bc1HQt1c |
| 13:35.20 | batouzo | which FS is most safe against power failures - so database running on it will not risk data corruption? |
| 13:35.42 | an0 | Ha, nevermind. It just finished. Answer was 20 minutes. :P |
| 13:35.47 | Bushmills | batouzo: iso9660 |
| 13:36.18 | CruX| | Bushmills: romfs |
| 13:36.26 | Bushmills | squashfs |
| 13:36.47 | upIRC | DammitJim: bleeding edge, huh. I always stay with the stbale dist of debain, though even using stable got me unbootable a few times |
| 13:37.00 | DammitJim | lol @ up365 |
| 13:37.03 | DammitJim | upIRC, |
| 13:37.06 | epsilon | an0: if you are in hurry, use xfs |
| 13:37.30 | CruX| | xfs is very slow |
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| 13:38.00 | Odaym | I open /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and there's nothing there.. |
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| 13:38.49 | an0 | epsilon: Thanks. I think this will work now, but I will look into using XFS in the future. |
| 13:41.05 | an0 | Hm, I cannot unmount /mnt/tmp because it is "busy". How do I tell what it's doing? |
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| 13:42.19 | CruX| | an0: some file(s) from your /tmp are opened or executed |
| 13:42.21 | twobitsprite | an0: you can use lsof to see a list of files held open by processes |
| 13:42.43 | an0 | CruX|: The disk is freshly formatted. Nothing on it. |
| 13:42.43 | an0 | two |
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| 13:42.51 | twobitsprite | an0: also, if you're currently cd'd in to that directory it will also show as busy |
| 13:42.55 | DammitJim | so, how do I get rid of this smpfs problem? |
| 13:43.07 | DammitJim | smfpd |
| 13:43.08 | an0 | twobitsprite: Let me check. Is there a good option to use with lsof? Shows me a lot of stuff. |
| 13:43.21 | twobitsprite | an0: lsof | grep tmp |
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| 13:44.28 | an0 | twobitsprite: "su 7249 root cwd DIR 8,17 4096 2 /mnt/tmp" |
| 13:45.35 | CruX| | so su was executed from /tmp |
| 13:45.53 | Adriien | Hi, I'm running pootle 2.05 form debian package, I've no logs write in /var/log/pootle. I think the init.d script is buged, somebody alerady see that ? |
| 13:45.59 | an0 | CruX|: Yes it was, I need to stop that somehow? |
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| 13:46.10 | an0 | CruX|: I think I know what to do. Let me see. |
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| 13:47.21 | batouzo | Bushmills, hmm.. from normal FSes |
| 13:47.23 | batouzo | ext4 ? |
| 13:47.48 | an0 | CruX|: Ah! Now lsof, grep, and bash are executed from /mnt/tmp! How do I stop them? |
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| 13:48.33 | twobitsprite | an0: you can exit from your su session, cd to another directory and su again |
| 13:48.59 | an0 | twobitsprite: you rock. =) |
| 13:49.04 | an0 | thanks! afk. |
| 13:49.49 | twobitsprite | an0: yeah, any program or command which was launched while in that directory will have that directory as it's current working directory and will make the filesystem busy |
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| 13:51.40 | martianpenguin | got a question about the clock |
| 13:52.05 | martianpenguin | my clock keeps defaulting to jan 1st 2000 0:0:0 when i reboot |
| 13:52.16 | twobitsprite | martianpenguin: probably cmos battery |
| 13:52.30 | martianpenguin | twobitsprite: this isn't a PC exactly |
| 13:52.36 | twobitsprite | martianpenguin: well, what is it? |
| 13:52.38 | martianpenguin | it's an ARM system |
| 13:52.42 | martianpenguin | within a PC |
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| 13:52.53 | twobitsprite | an arm VM? |
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| 13:53.02 | martianpenguin | no... it's a chip on the motherboard |
| 13:53.03 | twobitsprite | or emulator? |
| 13:53.11 | twobitsprite | what do you mean "within a PC"? |
| 13:53.17 | cantido | martianpenguin: the main processor? |
| 13:53.33 | martianpenguin | no, it's a secondary system to allow oob management |
| 13:53.39 | cantido | martianpenguin: if not.. its going to be ARM7TDMI or cortex m0.. no debian ;) |
| 13:53.40 | colo-work | martianpenguin, use ntp |
| 13:54.12 | twobitsprite | martianpenguin: so, you have a side-band arm system running debian and the clock resets whenever you reboot this arm system? |
| 13:54.22 | martianpenguin | twobitsprite: exactly |
| 13:54.41 | twobitsprite | martianpenguin: what exactly kind of system is this? |
| 13:55.02 | twobitsprite | are you talking about an iLO like on an HP server or something? |
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| 13:55.28 | martianpenguin | twobitsprite: yep |
| 13:55.35 | DammitJim | uninstalled a silly driver and that worked :D |
| 13:55.58 | twobitsprite | martianpenguin: I see... and iLO doesn't have a cmos clock or use the same cmos clock as the main system? |
| 13:56.00 | cantido | martianpenguin: does it still do the system management stuff while running debian? |
| 13:56.00 | martianpenguin | ntp works fine, but i need to find out where it gets the default from for when ntp is turned off |
| 13:56.07 | martianpenguin | i need it to be 2010 or later |
| 13:56.20 | martianpenguin | apparently not |
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| 13:56.51 | cantido | martianpenguin: what do you see in dmesg on the main machine.. if its not a pc style clock it should load some module I would guess |
| 13:56.59 | twobitsprite | martianpenguin: well, either way, I'd say this is a hardware/system specific problem... you might want to call your vendor |
| 13:57.41 | martianpenguin | cantido: the main machine? i don't have an OS on there right now |
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| 13:58.01 | martianpenguin | twobitsprite: that's what i was afraid of |
| 13:58.11 | twobitsprite | also, how did you install debian on your iLO? |
| 13:58.19 | cantido | martianpenguin: it sounds weird that the ARM part would have access to the clock if it was a pc style clock.. |
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| 13:58.41 | martianpenguin | cantido: it doesn't have access to the same clock as far as i can tell |
| 13:58.58 | cantido | martianpenguin: does it reset all the bios settings too? |
| 13:59.10 | cantido | maybe its overwriting some NVRAM + RTC |
| 13:59.40 | martianpenguin | twobitsprite: i have a way to flash it |
| 14:00.16 | cantido | would be interested in getting a machine with a full ARM9+ machine hiding inside it |
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| 14:01.04 | cantido | there are some management controllers that are PPC based.. I dont think I ever saw someone running debian on them though |
| 14:01.35 | martianpenguin | cantido: they're probably masked so you can't tell whats running on them |
| 14:02.02 | cantido | martianpenguin: have you loaded debian onto this thing via JTAG or something? |
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| 14:02.57 | martianpenguin | cantido: it's a specific flash device for the chip. this one was USB |
| 14:02.58 | DexterF | hi |
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| 14:03.23 | martianpenguin | cantido: but probably through the JTAG interface |
| 14:03.36 | DexterF | I'm looking for a tool to graph cpu usage over time - anyone know one? |
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| 14:04.14 | cantido | martianpenguin: sounds interesting.. on the clock thing though.. I would try to work out where the clock is on the board. It might be inside something else like NVRAM.. if the ARM can trash that it can trash the clock too |
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| 14:05.22 | martianpenguin | cantido: no, I'm only worried about the arm system right now. when i reboot, it loses all the settings and then reloads the clock apparently |
| 14:05.44 | cantido | martianpenguin: ah ok, maybe it doesnt have a clock? or at least one that is supported.. |
| 14:05.57 | cantido | on non-pc systems you should have some module loaded for the clock |
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| 14:06.14 | martianpenguin | perhaps, it doesn't have "hwclock" or any clock config stuf |
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| 14:06.38 | cantido | martianpenguin: lots of arm procs have a clock in the core.. but its not battery backed |
| 14:06.49 | cantido | so it only keeps the time once its turned on and its been set |
| 14:07.02 | martianpenguin | cantido: so where does debian set that on boot up? |
| 14:07.11 | cantido | martianpenguin: the time? |
| 14:07.14 | martianpenguin | or is jan 1st 2000 the default somehow? |
| 14:07.27 | cantido | it defaults to the unix epoc IIRC |
| 14:07.45 | martianpenguin | so it should be jan 1 1970? |
| 14:07.52 | cantido | martianpenguin: you can probably get NTP to set the clock really early in the boot process |
| 14:07.54 | colo-work | martianpenguin, the hardware clock (I'm pretty sure the device has one) probably has that programmed as its built-in default |
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| 14:08.03 | colo-work | timing info just gets lost at poweroff |
| 14:08.16 | colo-work | a pogoplug device I have here behaves exactly like this |
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| 14:08.24 | cantido | martianpenguin: do you know what part the ARM is? |
| 14:08.26 | martianpenguin | i guess i can just use a script to override it then |
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| 14:10.13 | cantido | martianpenguin: if you cat /proc/cpuinfo you should be able to get roughly what it is and then look up the datasheet... |
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| 14:13.55 | marti_ | Hi, How Can I changle to 3G only or 2G only in my wvdial for Internet connection 3G? |
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| 14:17.04 | colo-work | marti_, depends on your modem. consult its docs, its AT command set datasheet especially |
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| 14:20.44 | dualcore | downloading a torrent in transmission it said Tracker gave a warning: "Your torrent client ip is (my ip)" Does this mean I was downloading it from myself? |
| 14:20.55 | marti_ | Huawei E220 |
| 14:21.02 | dualcore | and does that mean my computer could be hosting torrents without my knowledge? |
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| 14:25.13 | xrfang | a quesiton about shell script: db_input medium foo/like_debian || true |
| 14:25.15 | xrfang | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:25.39 | wols_ | logical or true |
| 14:26.15 | xrfang | wols_, then what if this one is not added? what's the difference? |
| 14:26.37 | wols_ | #bash and tell them the full line |
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| 14:27.17 | xrfang | wols_, this is in the debconf user's manual... |
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| 14:27.53 | colo-work | xrfang, if the command before the two pipe characters fails, execute the true builtin/program, which has an return value of EXIT_SUCCESS (commonly 0) |
| 14:28.34 | colo-work | _why_ someone would be doing that cannot be determined from that line alone. the reasons have to hide somewhere in the surrounding code. |
| 14:29.28 | xrfang | colo-work, then I guess it has to do with 'set -e' in the script. otherwise if the left returns failure, the shell script ends? |
| 14:30.37 | colo-work | xrfang, probably, yeah |
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| 14:31.11 | xrfang | I hope so, will go on reading :-) |
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| 14:46.32 | phrantiq | 4.7) of 193.0 (03:13.0) 0.1% |
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| 14:50.22 | sagar | hi I want to automount usb devices when I hotplug and I am using xfce4. Everything is working well except everytime I hotplug the first device gets mounted on /media/usb0 and all other in their respective label how can I make everything to automount on label ? |
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| 14:51.59 | DannyButterman | Hi there |
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| 14:52.47 | DannyButterman | I need to know a working mirror url for a debian lenny net inst ; the provided mirrors don't work anymore now that squeeze is out |
| 14:53.06 | twobitsprite | DannyButterman: you know squeeze is out now, right? |
| 14:53.26 | petemc | guesses yes |
| 14:53.30 | twobitsprite | ohh, sorry, started typing my answer before reading the rest of your question :P |
| 14:53.50 | abrotman | DannyButterman: they should still work, but i suspect your keys are out of date |
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| 14:56.24 | DannyButterman | my bad: my lan connection isn't up. feel free to throw me some stones |
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| 14:57.18 | cantido | <insert facepalm img link here> |
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| 15:05.50 | AlReece45 | why would date and watch report different times (5 minutes off) |
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| 15:09.40 | adminewb | Here's a paste from syslog on failing to hibernate, on 6.0.2 amd64: http://paste.debian.net/126612/ |
| 15:10.12 | babilen | adminewb: line 82 + 83 |
| 15:10.22 | adminewb | 3GiB system memory, and I want to make use of a dedicated 6GiB swap space not mounted for any kernel |
| 15:10.45 | adminewb | thanks bablilen |
| 15:10.46 | twobitsprite | adminewb: it needs to be mounted to be used |
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| 15:10.59 | adminewb | hmm |
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| 15:11.22 | adminewb | what if multiple swaps are mounted? which would it choose for hibernate? |
| 15:11.24 | twobitsprite | why do you need it to be "dedicated"? |
| 15:11.25 | babilen | Please run "swapon -s" and show me the output |
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| 15:11.47 | adminewb | dedicated so it won't be clobbered by some other distro running while one is suspended |
| 15:12.14 | twobitsprite | ahh |
| 15:12.32 | twobitsprite | then just give each distro it's own swap space |
| 15:12.34 | babilen | Why not give each distro their very own swap space? |
| 15:12.38 | babilen | twobitsprite: heh |
| 15:12.40 | adminewb | hmm ok |
| 15:12.42 | twobitsprite | \o/ |
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| 15:12.55 | adminewb | thanks |
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| 15:14.07 | adminewb | those lines you detected in the log though, by that point, hasn't the kernel long since decided it couldn't hibernate? |
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| 15:15.47 | adminewb | I'd have expected some more detailed message earlier saying what's the rationale |
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| 15:17.06 | ernst | hi, can you have suexec allow executing of group-writeable scripts? |
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| 15:18.12 | ernst | atm it says "file is writable by others [..]" |
| 15:18.13 | Petaris | Hello, I just upgraded from lenny to squeeze and I am having an issue getting apache2 to start. It complains about having no virtual hosts even though one is there |
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| 15:22.47 | Bushmills | Petaris: re-read error message. apache doesn't need virtual hosts |
| 15:22.53 | yagoo | Petaris, see if that file in included.. called from the main conf |
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| 15:23.40 | Bushmills | unless you call the default host a virtual host as well, that is |
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| 15:24.27 | Petaris | Bushmills: support:/etc/apache2# apachectl configtest |
| 15:24.27 | Petaris | [Thu Aug 18 10:23:47 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost xxx.xx.xx.xxx:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 15:24.27 | Petaris | [Thu Aug 18 10:23:47 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 15:24.27 | Petaris | Syntax OK |
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| 15:24.31 | abrotman | really? |
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| 15:26.20 | Petaris | yagoo: It is included |
| 15:26.27 | zach23 | Is anyone familiar with Dell's PERC cards and this WriteBack etc. I want to use ext4 and use the nobarrier option. The safest way to do that is to enable Disk Cache. I have enabled it using Dell Tools but want to make sure I should be using Write Back or Write Through |
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| 15:27.05 | Bushmills | Petaris, edit ports.conf, and try changing to NameVirtualHost * - you may need a Listen xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80 line in there too then |
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| 15:28.07 | Bushmills | or change - in virtualhost definition - to VirtualHost *. or both. |
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| 15:29.04 | Bushmills | or virtualhost definition to VirtualHost *:80 |
| 15:29.06 | Petaris | Bushmills: I just edited the ports.conf file and changed it to include the IP but now when I run configtest I just get two NameVirtualHost errors |
| 15:29.21 | Bushmills | different error - good sign |
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| 15:30.00 | Petaris | Bushmills: Sorry, I was getting two before as well, but now they are both the same |
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| 15:30.40 | Petaris | Is the NameVirtualHost supposed to be in ports.conf now? |
| 15:30.42 | an0 | df -h tells me my 1TB USB HD (ext4) is 917GB, with 200MB used (yes, MB), and 871GB free. Can someone explain this to me? |
| 15:30.48 | Rienzilla | dumdumdeedum |
| 15:30.50 | Rienzilla | wwe |
| 15:31.07 | ironm | good afternoon. can you hive me an idea why I am not able to create a ssl.key on debian with the following command line? |
| 15:31.20 | ironm | root@debian:~/certificates# openssl genrsa –des3 –out host.domain.com.key 1024 |
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| 15:31.30 | ironm | thank you in advance for any hints |
| 15:31.46 | an0 | Shouldn't it be around 930GB formatted? And where is the missing 46GB? |
| 15:32.01 | Bushmills | Petaris, i thought that's where it was. the files are all included anyway, doesn't make a huge difference where it is in |
| 15:32.04 | Petaris | Bushmills: My default sites file starts like this: NameVirtualHost xxx.xx.xx.xxx:80 <VirtualHost xxx.xx.xx.xxx:80> |
| 15:32.17 | Bushmills | remove the :80 |
| 15:32.17 | ironm | oot@debian:~/certificates# openssl genrsa –des3 –out host.domain.com.key 1024 |
| 15:32.25 | Petaris | ahh, well thats where one of them is coming from then |
| 15:32.27 | ironm | thank you in advance for any hints ;) |
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| 15:32.58 | ansgar | ironm: Please do not ask the same question twice in a very short timespan. |
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| 15:33.44 | ironm | ansgar, sorry .. it was wrong paste |
| 15:34.13 | abrotman | ironm: what doesn't work about it? |
| 15:34.37 | abrotman | ironm: dpkg -l openssl .. which package version is it? |
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| 15:34.45 | Petaris | Bushmills: Ok, I have that issue resolved but when I try to start apache2 I still get "failed!" |
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| 15:34.50 | ironm | abrotman, I am gettin an error message startig with usage: genrsa [args] [numbits] |
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| 15:35.01 | AlReece45 | i have two new dell servers jumping 5 minutes back/forward every 2.5 minutes… the watch command is immune to this effect |
| 15:35.20 | abrotman | AlReece45: dual cpu? |
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| 15:35.31 | AlReece45 | abrotman: yes |
| 15:35.32 | Bushmills | Petaris, "failed" means that there is still another problem. determine what the problem is. hint: log files |
| 15:35.33 | Petaris | Bushmills: I don't see anything helpful in /var/log/apache2/error.log though |
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| 15:36.05 | ironm | abrotman, ii openssl 0.9.8o-4squeeze1 Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools |
| 15:36.09 | ansgar | ironm: And genrsa is very likely not what you want. Try req (not self-signed) or x509 (self-signed). |
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| 15:36.30 | happycrappy | hi all |
| 15:37.24 | ironm | abrotman, what is wrong in the syntax or the order of options ? |
| 15:37.42 | ramvi | I'm unable to port forward with IPTABLES. Been troubleshooting for hours; what am I doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/NnTNXj4g |
| 15:37.56 | ironm | ansgar, are you familiar with the syntax? ^^ |
| 15:38.07 | happycrappy | I was wondering if someone tell me whats the recommended way to install a newer version of a packaged debian package before the maintainer had a chance to update it officially? |
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| 15:38.20 | abrotman | ironm: i don't see anything wrong, but the order is different than the man page (normally this does not matter, but i have seen where it does) |
| 15:38.28 | abrotman | happycrappy: depends what it is |
| 15:38.48 | Onryo | I have been playing with ext3 and ext4. How do I check what kind of journaling my FS is using. As you know there are 3 kinds, writeback mode, ordered mode and journal mode. |
| 15:39.10 | happycrappy | currently debian has netatalk-2.2~beta4-1, the final was released |
| 15:39.22 | abrotman | judd: versions netatalk |
| 15:39.24 | judd | Package netatalk on i386 -- lenny: 2.0.3-11+lenny1; squeeze: 2.1.2-2; sid: 2.2~beta4-1; wheezy: 2.2~beta4-1 |
| 15:39.32 | abrotman | !tell happycrappy about uupdate |
| 15:39.37 | abrotman | happycrappy: may or may not work .. good luck! |
| 15:39.51 | ansgar | ironm: For creating a cretificate request yes, I don't create self-signed keys often. |
| 15:39.54 | petemc | ramvi: http://pastie.org/2391874 , this is all i need to forward ports |
| 15:40.15 | themill | happycrappy: there was a guy in #debian oftc who successfully updated (and backported) 2.2 to squeeze a week or so ago |
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| 15:41.17 | abrotman | though once again .. "netatalk ... really?!" |
| 15:41.20 | happycrappy | themill: thanks, will search the chat logs |
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| 15:42.19 | themill | happycrappy: all he did was what dpkg told him |
| 15:42.26 | ironm | thanks a lot ansgar |
| 15:42.46 | abrotman | and what dpkg just told happycrappy ? |
| 15:42.59 | happycrappy | themill: not quite sure what you mean, this is my first foray into debian packaging |
| 15:43.22 | themill | happycrappy: the dpkg bot just gave you some instructions. He just followed the same instructions and it worked out. |
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| 15:44.03 | happycrappy | themill: i see, will try it out |
| 15:44.09 | happycrappy | thanks for the tips guys |
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| 15:50.29 | chi | what is the default debian squeeze way of restarting networking? |
| 15:50.51 | chi | /etc/init.d/networking and invoke-rc.d seem to be deprecated |
| 15:51.00 | abrotman | ifup/ifdown ? |
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| 15:51.56 | chi | is that a question or answer? |
| 15:52.15 | ramvi | petemc: Thanks; now I'm trying to do the same as you: http://pastebin.com/hFaNsFxG , but I still can't get it to work. Can you spot what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 15:52.38 | babilen | chi: The warning is a bit wrong -- The reason for it is that "/e/i/networking restart" or "service networking restart" runs "ifdown -a" and "ifup -a" which does not guarantee that the same set of interfaces as before if up afterwards. |
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| 15:53.13 | chi | babilen, thank you for the explanation =) |
| 15:54.42 | babilen | chi: ifdown -a will take down *all* active interfaces, but ifup -a will only bring up those with auto stanzas -- I wouldn't necessarily call "networking restart" deprecated. And IIRC invoke-rc.d is not meant to be used by users but only in maintainer scripts (but I might conflate invoke-rc.d with update-rc.d here) |
| 15:55.31 | chi | even better, thank you |
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| 15:55.56 | babilen | read the ifup/ifdown manpage for even more ;) |
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| 15:56.58 | an0 | When I write a large file to my USB drive, it starts out very fast and then creeps to a standstill. Is there something I can do about this in Squeeze? |
| 15:57.00 | humbolt | I have installed wireshark and did a dpkg-reconfigure to enable wireshark users to run the dumpcap thing. but still, it seems impossible to monitor http traffic on lo ... some other tcp traffic is shown there, but not my chrome connections. |
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| 16:03.30 | karlpinc | an0: No. It's hardware. |
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| 16:05.14 | jack_lt | any idea how to extract such a file? debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma |
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| 16:08.20 | yagoo | an0, usb2->100/8=12.5 megs/sec |
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| 16:08.52 | an0 | yagoo: I think it's 480mbit, no? |
| 16:09.09 | yagoo | an0, if it does 480 mbit.. |
| 16:09.24 | yagoo | an0, i usually dont peak 60megs/sec on usb2 |
| 16:09.26 | an0 | Not sure, it was flying to start with. |
| 16:09.42 | an0 | I'm going to try it on a different system and see if I have better luck. |
| 16:09.51 | yagoo | an0, also the quality of the usb cord helps |
| 16:10.03 | yagoo | an0, what speeds u getting? |
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| 16:10.32 | an0 | I was getting around 20MB/s |
| 16:10.38 | an0 | Now it's basically not moving. |
| 16:10.49 | yagoo | i think that's often what i see on my system as well |
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| 16:14.10 | Petaris | Bushmills: I think I found the issue. A bunch of perl modules need to be updated since perl was. |
| 16:14.25 | Petaris | Bushmills: Thanks for the help |
| 16:14.26 | Petaris | :) |
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| 16:15.29 | yagoo | Petaris, maybe u updated a dependency somewhere :) |
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| 16:16.59 | r3m | Hi, a lot of linux program need a mta installed. but in my case, the mx is not my vps. the mx pointed to my google apps account. is there a way to use my google apps account instead of using a mta |
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| 16:19.58 | jhutchins_lt | r3m: Most requirements for an MTA are for purely local delivery. Unless you have apps that want to send email to external addresses, you should be fine with a non-forwarding MTA. |
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| 16:21.10 | r3m | jhutchins_lt: yes the apps im talking about send mail to external adress |
| 16:21.57 | humbolt | how do I redirect traffic to localhost with iptables. I want traffic coming in at port 80 redirected to a service running locally on port 3000. |
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| 16:22.20 | Petaris | yagoo: Almost certainly. I upgraded from etch to lenny to squeeze ;) |
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| 16:23.01 | Petaris | yagoo: Right now apache is failing silently. No errors in the log or on the command line |
| 16:23.03 | Petaris | :/ |
| 16:23.08 | diagnosis | hello debian guys. could someone tell me how long old versions of wm's like kde 4.x will be supported once like kde 5.x comes out in debian? |
| 16:23.33 | diagnosis | because the kde folks will drop support pretty quick i think. |
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| 16:24.21 | themill | diagnosis: debian will support things for the stable release but won't diverge from upstream on that. KDE upstream has said they will support 4.x until 5.x is ready for real usage. |
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| 16:26.01 | Gargantua | Hi, how do I temporarly stop iptables? there is no /etc/init.d/iptables. |
| 16:26.33 | abrotman | you delete the rules you don't want anymore |
| 16:26.43 | Gargantua | Can I just stop it? |
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| 16:27.13 | jhutchins_lt | Gargantua: Yes. |
| 16:27.16 | Daymous | have u tried /etc/init.d/iptables stop |
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| 16:27.31 | Gargantua | Read what I just said, there is no /etc/init.d/iptables |
| 16:27.36 | Gargantua | jhutchins_lt: How? |
| 16:27.43 | jhutchins_lt | Gargantua: Why do you think it is running? |
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| 16:28.20 | Gargantua | Doesn't it run by default? I'm assuming so since I can't get any incoming connections. |
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| 16:28.38 | themill | Gargantua: how about asking your real question.... |
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| 16:28.55 | Gargantua | Is iptables running? |
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| 16:29.11 | themill | try again. go back to the start. |
| 16:29.20 | jhutchins_lt | Gargantua: If you don't have it in /etc/int, it's not very likely that it's running. Debian does not come with a default firewall configured. |
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| 16:29.32 | Gargantua | jhutchins_lt: thank you. |
| 16:29.46 | themill | iptables doesn't "run" anyway. Neither does networking. |
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| 16:30.35 | jhutchins_lt | Gargantua: Now you need to figure out why you can't connect. |
| 16:30.47 | Gargantua | I like trouble shooting :P |
| 16:31.00 | themill | (asking your real question is going to be more successful) |
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| 16:31.39 | Gargantua | Some people want to be successful, others want to learn :P |
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| 16:34.27 | Gargantua | I think sshd is only listening to localhost. |
| 16:34.32 | Gargantua | If there is no firewall by default. |
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| 16:34.41 | Gargantua | How can I fix that? |
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| 16:36.48 | themill | Gargantua: in its default configuration, just restart it. "invoke-rc.d ssh restart" |
| 16:37.07 | Gargantua | Okay |
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| 16:40.43 | Gargantua | themill: Still hangs when I try from the outside. |
| 16:41.21 | themill | "hangs" |
| 16:41.33 | Gargantua | ssh <ip> just keeps ssh running. |
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| 16:42.31 | themill | that's that sshd isn't listening, that's either a connectivity problem (packets going into the ether) or a firewall between the two boxes just throwing them away. |
| 16:42.52 | themill | not running fail2ban on that box by any chance and had a few incorrect login attempts? |
| 16:43.10 | Gargantua | Nah, this is my first time trying sshd. |
| 16:43.32 | Gargantua | Also, I used 3 different locations on the other end, I'm pretty sure the problem is on my end. |
| 16:43.39 | Gargantua | Does sshd work out of the box? |
| 16:43.51 | jhutchins_lt | Gargantua: Usually. |
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| 16:44.15 | jhutchins_lt | Gargantua: Is sshd running? ps ax | grep ssh |
| 16:44.29 | Gargantua | Yes it is. |
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| 16:45.22 | jhutchins_lt | Gargantua: I believe you said you can collect to localhost? |
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| 16:45.56 | Gargantua | That is correct. |
| 16:46.34 | dacu | I want to remotely manage a router through web, and I do not want to use either 80 or 8080 for the management (since I want to forward those ports to an internal network) |
| 16:46.36 | jhutchins_lt | nmap it. |
| 16:46.43 | Gargantua | Okay |
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| 16:47.02 | dacu | what port should I use except 80 or 8080 ? |
| 16:47.10 | petemc | 8081 |
| 16:48.09 | dacu | petemc thanks - is any reason for that - may I know why ? |
| 16:48.26 | petemc | no reason at all, i just incremented by one |
| 16:48.43 | daemonkeeper | heh |
| 16:48.51 | dacu | I thought everything has a rime and reason :) |
| 16:48.53 | babilen | it is, however, used by tproxy) |
| 16:48.54 | dacu | thanks |
| 16:49.13 | daemonkeeper | I bet every port is used by a more or less esoteric protocol today. |
| 16:49.20 | jhutchins_lt | dacu: Look in /etc/services, pick any number you're not using. |
| 16:49.43 | jhutchins_lt | daemonkeeper: How many ports are there? |
| 16:49.47 | daemonkeeper | 65k |
| 16:49.54 | Gargantua | I just tried changing the port to 8085 and restarting, still nothing. |
| 16:49.57 | babilen | daemonkeeper: Indeed -- but, but, but that could clash with popassd! |
| 16:50.35 | Martin_vW | Hi, I'm having a problem with Debian packaging. Back in lenny I created a package freeradius-iserv for my company that contains the EAP libraries for freeradius (back then they weren't contained in the freeradius package due to licensing issues). Now all our lenny servers have both freeradius and freeradius-iserv installed. When I upgrade such a server, apt breaks because the new freeradius package contains the same files as my old freeradius-iserv packa |
| 16:50.57 | jhutchins_lt | Gargantua: did nmap see it open? |
| 16:51.02 | dacu | I have a d-link router dir-655 and it is truly kicking some butt - but I want to remotely manage through the web - but beyond this will be two servers and I want to keep 80 and 8080 for those two webservers |
| 16:51.24 | babilen | Martin_vW: Can't you just remove the (your) package prior to the upgrade? |
| 16:51.24 | simonlnu | Martin_vW: um, so remove the -iserv one? |
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| 16:51.38 | Gargantua | jhutchins_lt: I don't have nmap on any of the other machines :( |
| 16:51.45 | dacu | so now I have to see if the router uses t proky |
| 16:51.48 | daemonkeeper | Martin_vW: That happens. You have to remove your packge first. A proper solution (within Debian) would have been to conflict with your package, but that implies to know about ... |
| 16:51.55 | simonlnu | 65536 |
| 16:52.14 | babilen | dacu: It most probably does not -- It was rather meant as a joke, but yeah: check! |
| 16:52.44 | dacu | I thought jokes should be at least half understood :) |
| 16:52.51 | dacu | babilen thanks |
| 16:52.54 | Martin_vW | daemonkeeper: hmm, ok. |
| 16:53.33 | daemonkeeper | Your router won't use anything other than 22, 80, 443 and eventually Samba. |
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| 16:54.14 | daemonkeeper | Well, 23 perhaps. |
| 16:54.29 | jhutchins_lt | daemonkeeper: Depends on the router. |
| 16:55.04 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: True. But typically home gear won't have a notable number of services. Mine has 179 too :) |
| 16:55.22 | simonlnu | bgp |
| 16:55.41 | daemonkeeper | Right. |
| 16:56.02 | daemonkeeper | Some at least. |
| 16:56.23 | simonlnu | depends on the device =) |
| 16:56.54 | daemonkeeper | Well, I bet you can run quagga on your OpenWRT gear as well. Whether its useful is an entirely unrelated discussion ;) |
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| 17:10.55 | upIRC | What going to be the easiest way of linking the installation folders onto a 50 gig reserve, so apt knows where to install. Short on disk space |
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| 17:11.16 | upIRC | Been googling no joy |
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| 17:11.48 | upIRC | Or what would I search for? |
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| 17:13.23 | simonlnu | symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to some directory on that "reserve"? |
| 17:14.01 | upIRC | simonlnu: and the installation files downloaded via apt will go into the reserve |
| 17:14.33 | upIRC | What I want todo, is install programs via apt onto the reserve |
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| 17:14.52 | simonlnu | that's where they go. |
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| 17:15.10 | upIRC | ok |
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| 17:15.40 | Sh4ring4n | !kick a111 |
| 17:15.40 | dpkg | kicks a111 in the ass. |
| 17:15.44 | Sh4ring4n | :D |
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| 17:16.40 | simonlnu | upIRC: man apt and friends |
| 17:16.48 | upIRC | OK, thanks |
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| 17:17.27 | singingBird | hi |
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| 17:19.45 | abrotman | /nick mockingBird |
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| 17:23.24 | AlReece45 | Is there another way to get the system time without using date? |
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| 17:24.36 | abrotman | AlReece45: which system time? the hardware or OS? |
| 17:24.42 | petemc | AlReece45: tail -f /var/log/syslog and hope something is written |
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| 17:25.24 | simonlnu | have your shell prompt do it for you ;p |
| 17:26.29 | AlReece45 | abrotman: system/os |
| 17:26.34 | AlReece45 | petemc: thanks, that helps |
| 17:26.48 | AlReece45 | simonlnu: is there another way other than using the date command? |
| 17:26.50 | petemc | you can force an entry with logger |
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| 17:27.11 | abrotman | AlReece45: is your clock still bouncing? |
| 17:27.22 | AlReece45 | abrotman: yes |
| 17:27.31 | AlReece45 | I restarted one of the boxes to see if that would help |
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| 17:27.46 | abrotman | AlReece45: have you tried installing ntp to see if it would make a difference? |
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| 17:28.48 | AlReece45 | abrotman: I have, usually it syncs once and then fails to sync afterwords |
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| 17:29.34 | abrotman | AlReece45: can you reboot one and add 'noapic' to the kernel boot line to turn off the SMP ? |
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| 17:30.41 | AlReece45 | abrotman: I can |
| 17:31.00 | abrotman | AlReece45: also look to see if there is a BIOS update perhaps? |
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| 17:31.33 | AlReece45 | abrotman: I just checked, they're on the latest bios |
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| 17:31.56 | ghanima | hello all |
| 17:31.59 | ghanima | quick question |
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| 17:32.21 | ghanima | I am trying to find out if an application is able to use nscd for host caching, but I can't find my information on the API |
| 17:32.29 | ghanima | is anyone aware of library is used with nscd caching |
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| 17:33.23 | abrotman | huh? |
| 17:33.53 | ghanima | abortman: was that in response to my question |
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| 17:34.12 | abrotman | yeah |
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| 17:35.32 | ghanima | abrotman: I have a ruby application that is suffering from DNS performance I am trying to confirm if RUBY has the ability to look at the NSCD cache like other applications, but I am trying to find out what libraries are responsible for accesing NSCD cache |
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| 17:36.28 | karlpinc | ghanima: The app makes requests to the resolver, which is responsible for caching. |
| 17:36.46 | karlpinc | ghanima: All apps do this. |
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| 17:37.04 | AlReece45 | abrotman: same problem with noapic |
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| 17:38.43 | gui__ | hey guys, what does one need to know to set up a Qmail server, with pop3, webmail, imap, backup of the emails and stuff like that, what level of knowledge in linux the guy must have to do it? |
| 17:38.49 | ghanima | karlpinc: I have pain stakingly confirmed that Ruby does not.... My test was the following purge the NSCD caching on the hosts stop the nscd cache ran the ruby application as normal.... I ran multiple application(links wget ftp) and confirmed upon each new dns query an entry gets added to the cache, but when ruby execute Socket.gethostbyname function it does not reference the cache |
| 17:39.02 | ghanima | karlpinc: If you have a better way of testing please let me know |
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| 17:39.57 | ghanima | karlpinc: Correct me but the resolver for linux is using NSCD correct? |
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| 17:40.09 | ghanima | or in this case libresolv |
| 17:42.16 | abrotman | AlReece45: how many cores is it showing now ? |
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| 17:43.18 | ghanima | karlpinc: any suggestions |
| 17:43.25 | singingBird | uzbl is amazing , i have seen first time today |
| 17:43.34 | AlReece45 | abrotman: the same amount as before: 24 |
| 17:43.51 | abrotman | AlReece45: with noapic? |
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| 17:44.38 | AlReece45 | abrotman: cat /proc/cmdnline shows "noapic" at the end |
| 17:44.45 | AlReece45 | */proc/cmdline |
| 17:44.51 | abrotman | and you still have 24 cpus showing up ? |
| 17:44.59 | AlReece45 | yes |
| 17:45.16 | karlpinc | ghanima: Ruby must be doing it's own resolution and not using the resolver. |
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| 17:45.42 | abrotman | AlReece45: the point of trying that was to try to only have one core going to see if the clock still flips |
| 17:46.01 | ghanima | karlpinc: That is my suspicion as well however I can't find any evidence of that but ruby is not my strong suite. I am doing google searches, but I haven't found anything conclusive |
| 17:46.02 | simpleblue | encryting the whole HD takes a loooooong time :o |
| 17:46.17 | karlpinc | ghanima: Normal apps call gethostbyname(3) |
| 17:46.29 | valdyn_ | highly unlikely that ruby does its own resolution completely |
| 17:46.39 | AlReece45 | abrotman: Is there a reason not to try nosmp instead? |
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| 17:46.57 | karlpinc | simpleblue: Yes. It must generate lots of psuedo random numbers to fill the drive with. |
| 17:47.14 | abrotman | AlReece45: AFAIK, noapic should do that ... |
| 17:47.21 | ghanima | karlpinc: I believe this app is doing that, but what it is not doing is updating the nscd daemon cache on the hosts so I would agree with your previous assumption that ruby is doing it but I just haven't been able to confirmthat |
| 17:47.26 | abrotman | AlReece45: if that'll work, go ahead and try that |
| 17:47.37 | simpleblue | yeah karlpinc, i guess it mostly the generating 'random' random numbers that is the bottleneck |
| 17:47.43 | karlpinc | ghanima: You could try in a ruby channel. |
| 17:47.49 | Some_Person | Is there anything I can do to make crappy speakers sound slightly less crappy? |
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| 17:48.06 | ghanima | karlpinc: I have and no has responded so I thought I reach out to other channels :) |
| 17:48.08 | simpleblue | ... but the comforting physical security is worth it |
| 17:48.14 | karlpinc | simpleblue: Yes. But it can take a long time just to write zeros to a drive these days. |
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| 17:49.30 | lancelot_of | hi there |
| 17:49.38 | lancelot_of | is there miktex in debian repos? |
| 17:49.50 | valdyn_ | !tell lancelot_of -about search |
| 17:50.07 | lancelot_of | valdyn_, i didn't find anything with apt-cache search |
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| 17:50.55 | lancelot_of | valdyn_, i'm trying to install some tex fonts but the make install command returns: make: initexmf: Command not found |
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| 17:51.36 | valdyn_ | lancelot_of: dpkg told you how to find this |
| 17:51.59 | AlReece45 | abrotman: It shows only one CPU now, it'll take a moment to see if it still does it |
| 17:52.01 | karlpinc | lancelot_of: Unless you know what you're doing you're better off getting all your packages from the debian repos and not installing 3rd party stuff. Did you look for the fonts in the repos? That would be a better search. |
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| 17:52.57 | AlReece45 | abrotman: Same symptom |
| 17:53.01 | StaRetji | Folks, I need help, I have two usb 3g modems connected on remote machine. Once occupies ttyUSB0, ttyUSB1, ttyUSB2 and other modem occupies ttyUSB3, ttyUSB4, and ttyUSB5. Can someone help me out to determine which one is on 012 and which in on 345? It seems they swap ttyUSB after reboot which makes problems with .conf files. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thx ;) |
| 17:53.10 | lancelot_of | karlpinc, i did and these fonts were not in debian repos. I know what i'm doing. Anyway the fonts are in the universityos package from berkeley |
| 17:53.38 | abrotman | AlReece45: so where the heck is it getting the time from? some kind of wacky dual bios thing? |
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| 17:53.50 | valdyn_ | lancelot_of: which fonts exactly are you talking about? |
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| 17:54.42 | karlpinc | StaRetji: the answer is in /sys. Somewhere. I always blunder about /sys until I find what I want. To make them persistant you probably need a udev rule of some sort. |
| 17:55.00 | AlReece45 | abrotman: I wouldn't think the Dell R710's would do that, is there some way to find out? |
| 17:55.12 | lancelot_of | valdyn_, universityos from http://www2.engr.arizona.edu/~sprinkjm/useful/latex/index.html |
| 17:55.21 | karlpinc | StaRetji: You could, for instance, do something with the serial number. |
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| 17:55.45 | StaRetji | karlpinc: thx that sounds reasonable, good thinking |
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| 17:56.08 | StaRetji | I will check /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 17:56.29 | StaRetji | 70-persistent-net.rules |
| 17:56.35 | StaRetji | can I make similar file? |
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| 17:56.51 | StaRetji | something like 70-persistent-modem.rules |
| 17:57.11 | StaRetji | sorry if question is dumb, I'm trying my best |
| 17:58.52 | karlpinc | StaRetji: Right. There's udev instructions somewhere. I forget. |
| 17:59.20 | abrotman | AlReece45: if you just sit in the BIOS screen watching the clock, does it happen there also? |
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| 18:02.47 | karlpinc | StaRetji: See /usr/share/doc/udev/. |
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| 18:04.51 | karlpinc | StaRetji: That will get you some pointers anyway. It's not all that complicated, but does seem a bit hard to test. (Although probably not if you know what you're doing because there's udevadm for those clueful enough to use it.) |
| 18:04.52 | StaRetji | karlpinc: thx |
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| 18:05.13 | StaRetji | yes, I ran udevadm info --name=/dev/ttyUSB0 --attribute-walk |
| 18:05.21 | StaRetji | wish me luck :) |
| 18:06.35 | karlpinc | StaRetji: Just FYI. There's interesting udev rules in the usbmount package. |
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| 18:08.11 | StaRetji | karlpinc: isn't usbmount package for storage only/ |
| 18:08.12 | StaRetji | ? |
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| 18:10.22 | karlpinc | StaRetji: Yes. And it's just udev rules. |
| 18:10.51 | StaRetji | got it |
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| 18:21.56 | nsadmin | I'm trying to troubleshoot my wireless setup... I try iwlist scan and it says |
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| 18:22.02 | nsadmin | eth1 Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument |
| 18:22.36 | nsadmin | 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4727] (rev 01) |
| 18:22.48 | th0r | nsadmin: is the wifi eth1? |
| 18:22.57 | nsadmin | yes, I believe so |
| 18:23.06 | nsadmin | it appears when the driver is inserted |
| 18:23.41 | abrotman | did you load your firmware? |
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| 18:25.06 | nsadmin | abrotman, not sure, how can I find out, and where can I get it from? (yes, good chance you don't know immediately, just looking for hints) |
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| 18:25.14 | abrotman | !bcm4313 |
| 18:25.15 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727, incorrectly identified as BCM4727 by wlc_hybrid) is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset, not supported by the <b43> driver at this time. For support on Debian systems, ask me about <brcm80211>, <wl>. |
| 18:25.17 | abrotman | is a good start |
| 18:25.23 | abrotman | i've used the wl .. it mostly works well |
| 18:25.49 | nsadmin | I have wl now, and it's inserted |
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| 18:26.32 | Derp_ | I see debian is getting small updates on certain stuff |
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| 18:27.00 | nsadmin | Derp_, a truistic tautology indeed :) |
| 18:27.51 | Derp_ | I did sudo apt-get upgrade and got iceweasel updated. |
| 18:27.56 | tdn | I have added "ControlMaster auto" and "ControlPath /tmp/ssh_mux_%h_%p_%r" to my .ssh/config, however, I do not see any file created in /tmp, nor do I notice any speedup in connections. I do not think this setting has any effect. If I check netstat -tn, I see that there is created a new tcp connection each time I ssh to the same host. |
| 18:28.01 | Derp_ | Too bad its not at 5 tho |
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| 18:30.18 | nsadmin | abrotman, would there be a failure to load firmware posted to a log? |
| 18:30.38 | abrotman | perhaps |
| 18:30.49 | AlReece45 | abrotman: the time does not shift from the BIOS screen |
| 18:30.53 | abrotman | grrr |
| 18:30.55 | nsadmin | and, would it be (in my case) inserting wl that triggers the attempt? |
| 18:31.00 | abrotman | AlReece45: try a livecd |
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| 18:32.48 | Derp_ | So what are the backports mainly |
| 18:32.54 | Derp_ | ? |
| 18:33.01 | nsadmin | !ssb |
| 18:33.01 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 18:33.17 | nsadmin | that's how backports are generally made |
| 18:33.20 | dacu | so therethere was a goof question - what port ssh use 22 or 23 |
| 18:33.30 | dacu | what port I need to ope for remmina |
| 18:33.34 | ompaul | 22 |
| 18:33.43 | ompaul | for ssh |
| 18:33.45 | abrotman | dacu: grep ssh /etc/services |
| 18:34.03 | simpleblue | is also or pulse installed on a default deb install? |
| 18:34.03 | nsadmin | you take the (debianized) source from a later version of debian |
| 18:34.16 | nsadmin | then you try to build a package using your existing debian |
| 18:34.19 | simpleblue | alsa* |
| 18:34.26 | nsadmin | then you install that package |
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| 18:34.48 | simpleblue | it appears that alsa might not be installed by default |
| 18:35.10 | babilen | simpleblue: sure, it is by no means an essential package |
| 18:35.12 | nsadmin | what's a remmina? |
| 18:35.20 | simpleblue | thats true babilen |
| 18:35.31 | dacu | abrotman thanks - it is weirt sfttp uses 115 |
| 18:35.34 | simpleblue | prob a good thing actually, i just didn't want to overlap |
| 18:35.40 | dacu | ftp 21 |
| 18:35.47 | abrotman | engrish? |
| 18:36.05 | dacu | lol |
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| 18:36.42 | ompaul | dacu: and if we laughed at your questions where would you be? |
| 18:36.44 | dacu | sftp uses port 115 and ftp-data 20 ftp 21 what is the difference |
| 18:37.11 | ompaul | if only there was a way to search the internet, ohh wait! |
| 18:37.14 | simpleblue | wow, that was easy. installed 'alsa' and then opened the mixer, turned up the levels and it works ^^ ... i was thinking i'd be hunting for drivers, looking for blacklists... yay :D |
| 18:37.26 | dacu | ompaul: not too bad, our brains are limited machines, and we are 100% biodegradable |
| 18:37.27 | TrueDD | Hi everybody ! |
| 18:37.33 | simpleblue | hi TrueDD |
| 18:37.47 | TrueDD | hi simpleblue |
| 18:37.49 | dacu | hi TureDD |
| 18:38.00 | dacu | TrueDD |
| 18:38.23 | TrueDD | hi dacu |
| 18:38.36 | dacu | what is your question |
| 18:38.52 | nsadmin | abrotman, one thing I'm noticing in syslog is dhcp client is trying to use eth1 |
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| 18:39.02 | jelly-home | dacu: "sftp", if you're refering to ssh-tunneled file transfer protocol, uses the very same ports as ssh does -- tcp/22 by default |
| 18:39.23 | TrueDD | dacu, I have no question for now, thanks |
| 18:39.24 | nsadmin | heya TrueDD |
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| 18:39.29 | simpleblue | now its time for x |
| 18:39.31 | TrueDD | hey nsadmin |
| 18:39.35 | Sergio` | How do I make a patch to submit upstream? |
| 18:39.45 | simpleblue | * cringes at the thought of installing x |
| 18:40.22 | abrotman | simpleblue: try "/me cringes" |
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| 18:40.33 | nsadmin | Sergio`, have two dirs, one containing the unmodified source and the other a copy of the same but with your changes |
| 18:40.41 | dacu | cringes |
| 18:40.47 | Sergio` | Yes. |
| 18:40.53 | nsadmin | and run diff -Naur origdir changeddir |
| 18:41.01 | nsadmin | the output is your patch |
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| 18:42.21 | nsadmin | basically you get a diff -u of every file in the dir (watch out tho, you can get things like executables and obj files in the diff, clean the changedir first |
| 18:42.29 | simpleblue | lol, thanks abrotman, i know the command, just lazy :p |
| 18:42.39 | anoob | I've installed the non-free firmware-iwlwifi package... are there any open source driver for this card? |
| 18:43.05 | abrotman | anoob: that's as open as you'll get at this point |
| 18:43.19 | nsadmin | simpleblue, you can be lazy if you want... and, people will call you on that as being bullshit occasionally :) |
| 18:43.21 | abrotman | (for intel wifi devices) |
| 18:43.39 | anoob | abrotman, thank you |
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| 18:44.23 | anoob | abrotman, does intel has bad reputation with wireless and open source? |
| 18:44.51 | abrotman | anoob: AIUI, it's not intel's fault they can't release the specs .. but that might not be true anymore .. |
| 18:45.05 | abrotman | anoob: very few 11g cards have 100% open drivers |
| 18:45.19 | abrotman | and fewer 11n I believe |
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| 18:46.17 | devilchaos | hey hey |
| 18:46.33 | Derp_ | So If I were to download a source for a app, what is the process to make the package work? |
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| 18:47.09 | anoob | abrotman, thats bad... what about the future, have you ever heard something recently about open source and these cards? |
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| 18:47.40 | devilchaos | does anyone know what the current bit rate is for the loopback enc on a laptop hard drive is at the mo? or what is best to pick at install please? |
| 18:48.16 | simpleblue | installing x :s |
| 18:48.19 | abrotman | anoob: nope ... only ones i know with open drivers that are common are the atheros based cards |
| 18:48.36 | simpleblue | wish there was a minimal version |
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| 18:49.05 | anoob | abrotman i have an wireless usb dongle using carl9170... it's working pretty good |
| 18:49.55 | nsadmin | Aug 18 11:47:42 amdlap avahi-autoipd(eth1)[507]: Successfully claimed IP address 169.254.7.223 |
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| 18:50.44 | abrotman | okay |
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| 18:51.09 | nsadmin | still no joy... |
| 18:51.54 | nsadmin | but I'm also not yet seeing where it's asking for firmware. I could reboot, but what I did so far was remove wl and reinsert it, then looked again at syslog |
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| 18:52.55 | nsadmin | looking at kern.log, also no mention of firmware |
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| 18:55.18 | wols_ | nsadmin: wl is a big bad blob, it afaik doesn't need firmware considering you have a brickton of proprietary shitty code from broadcom running in ring 0 :) |
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| 18:55.40 | nsadmin | what's a ring? what's ring 0? |
| 18:55.58 | nsadmin | what's a brickton?! |
| 18:56.07 | wols_ | ring 0 is where the kernel lives, highest CPU priviledge level. ring 3 is were normal programs run |
| 18:56.18 | nsadmin | ok |
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| 18:57.08 | thewanderer1 | not ring 4? |
| 18:57.18 | nsadmin | wols_ and abrotman, dmesg also doesn't mention firmware (incl a failure to load same) |
| 18:57.47 | abrotman | !wl |
| 18:57.47 | dpkg | wl is Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN driver (x86, x86-64 only). Supports BCM4312 LP-PHY (802.11g) and BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) chipsets. Monitor mode is not available. To install, see http://wiki.debian.org/wl . See also <brcm80211>. For support of other Broadcom PCI(-E) chipsets, ask me about <b43>. |
| 18:57.54 | abrotman | nsadmin: did you install the wl driver yet? |
| 18:58.02 | nsadmin | yes |
| 18:58.19 | nsadmin | and I've been inserting/removing/inserting/reading log/etc |
| 18:58.45 | nsadmin | it's saying invalid argument when I iwlist scan |
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| 18:58.46 | abrotman | nsadmin: make sure you're also blacklisting the uh .. b43 driver? |
| 18:58.55 | Kobaz | how would i clear the cache of things to install |
| 18:58.59 | nsadmin | I think I did that |
| 18:59.02 | abrotman | Kobaz: aptitude clean |
| 18:59.08 | Kobaz | no no, not the cache files |
| 18:59.10 | nsadmin | that thing crashes the machine when I try to scan |
| 18:59.17 | Kobaz | like, apt-get install wants me to apt-get -f install... but i'm happy with what packages i have |
| 18:59.35 | Kobaz | like, packages marked for install |
| 18:59.38 | Kobaz | but aren't installed yet |
| 18:59.48 | abrotman | you have to fix the problem |
| 19:00.00 | Kobaz | dependencies and such |
| 19:00.03 | nsadmin | abrotman, the blacklisting instructions were from the wiki page |
| 19:00.17 | abrotman | gotcha |
| 19:00.40 | abrotman | nsadmin: if you give about an hour or so .. i'll be changing locations and i'll be using a system that uses the wl driver |
| 19:01.07 | nsadmin | oh cool :) I'd appreciate your time too |
| 19:01.28 | Derp_ | Kinky |
| 19:01.49 | nsadmin | skinky... |
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| 19:02.12 | Aut0ExeC | hi how do i get a redirect to go into a constant + a date... example tcpdump > logfilename+date ?? |
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| 19:03.30 | nsadmin | Aut0ExeC, you mean create a file name that has a date in it? |
| 19:03.48 | nsadmin | see if you like date --iso |
| 19:04.10 | Kobaz | is there a way to keep libperl5.10 and perl 5.10, while upgrading |
| 19:04.11 | Aut0ExeC | yessir |
| 19:04.37 | Kobaz | oh, that would be excellent |
| 19:04.40 | nsadmin | so, first you would form the string that will be the file's name |
| 19:04.54 | Kobaz | apt-get -f install wants to remove all my perl stuff, but i have lots of dependencies on 5.10 and everything will break |
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| 19:07.08 | nsadmin | Aut0ExeC, like what do you want the name to be? |
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| 19:07.41 | nsadmin | in bash shell and possibly others you can use $( PUT A COMMAND HERE ) |
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| 19:07.53 | nsadmin | and |
| 19:08.28 | simpleblue | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.28 | nsadmin | filename="heresmyfilecalledheresmyfile-$( PUT A COMMAND HERE )" |
| 19:08.30 | Aut0ExeC | say for example i want to redirect tcpdump > logheaderinfo + datetimestamp |
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| 19:08.46 | nsadmin | oh so you want the time too |
| 19:08.54 | nsadmin | date --iso doesn't include time |
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| 19:08.56 | twobitsprite | simpleblue: rc.local is ran as root |
| 19:09.02 | simpleblue | ok |
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| 19:09.55 | nsadmin | Aut0ExeC, experiment with the format option for date |
| 19:10.12 | srin | Does anyone know if TRIM is supported in Debian yet? |
| 19:10.38 | Aut0ExeC | nsadmin: for example based on that... tcpdump > /tmp/headerfile-$(date) |
| 19:10.42 | Aut0ExeC | nsadmin: doesnt work |
| 19:10.55 | ealexp | hi |
| 19:11.11 | Aut0ExeC | i get ambiguous redirect |
| 19:11.14 | themill | Aut0ExeC: note the quotes. |
| 19:11.16 | ealexp | is there a way to forbid a single user to use ssh tunnels, while letting other users use them on debian? |
| 19:11.30 | nsadmin | maybe you want something like logheaderinfo-2011-08-18-04:39:19 |
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| 19:11.58 | themill | Aut0ExeC: you probably want a sane date format too. Check what "date" actually produces. |
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| 19:12.15 | Aut0ExeC | ok thanks but yeah the quotes was the problem :) |
| 19:12.16 | nsadmin | Aut0ExeC, $(date) will have spaces in it |
| 19:12.16 | Aut0ExeC | thank s |
| 19:12.24 | Aut0ExeC | nsadmin: yes i see that no w |
| 19:12.28 | Aut0ExeC | nsadmin: i will fix thank you sir |
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| 19:12.46 | Aut0ExeC | debian is always so very helpful |
| 19:13.05 | nsadmin | play with formats, if you use date --iso that gives you 2011-03-22 |
| 19:13.26 | simonlnu | date --iso -u :P |
| 19:13.30 | nsadmin | if you use formats you can get pretty much anything |
| 19:13.30 | Aut0ExeC | ahh ok |
| 19:13.47 | nsadmin | that's utc isn'tit? |
| 19:14.10 | twobitsprite | simpleblue: isn't the -u extraneous? |
| 19:14.42 | Aut0ExeC | nsadmin: very helpful |
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| 19:14.45 | Aut0ExeC | simonlnu: thanks |
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| 19:15.33 | nsadmin | so you could form the filename separately, something along the lines of |
| 19:15.44 | ealexp | I have found how to do it |
| 19:15.46 | ealexp | thanks anyway |
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| 19:15.52 | zykotick9 | Aut0ExeC, i've been playing with the date command for a couple of minutes, so far I'm personally fond of "date +%F_%R" |
| 19:16.19 | nsadmin | filename="filehere-$(date (put format option here))" |
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| 19:16.25 | nsadmin | then you can do |
| 19:16.36 | nsadmin | tcpdump > $filename |
| 19:17.41 | neglesaks | any suggestions for handling an application taht all of a sudden cannot start, but just gives the taskbar button "starting ...." adn then closes. i have traied uninstallign and reinstalling to no avail |
| 19:18.05 | twobitsprite | neglesaks: try running it from a terminal and see if it gives any errors |
| 19:18.12 | neglesaks | thank you |
| 19:19.00 | twobitsprite | neglesaks: also, if it has a man page, look at that and see if it has a verbose of debug commandline option |
| 19:19.08 | twobitsprite | of/or |
| 19:19.40 | neglesaks | thank you. the terminal option preduced no errors. but it didnt start either. it worked fine the first few launches but have become broken the last few days apparently |
| 19:19.52 | twobitsprite | what program is it? |
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| 19:20.40 | neglesaks | Zim desktop wiki. it had a -V verbose mode that is givign me errors now, thank you for the suggestrion! |
| 19:20.47 | nsadmin | Aut0ExeC, so, we've been using this thing: $( ... ) |
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| 19:21.27 | nsadmin | this is called "command substitution" and is handled by the shell |
| 19:22.20 | nsadmin | if you want to know more about the shell and the other substitutions and expansions it can do, for bash you can check out its info page |
| 19:22.32 | simonlnu | nsadmin: yep it is |
| 19:22.48 | simpleblue | yay, gnomes working fine ^^ |
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| 19:23.34 | nsadmin | working gnomes... somehow I can't picture it... |
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| 19:24.14 | neglesaks | with pink hair? |
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| 19:24.31 | nsadmin | that's not a gnome, it's a troll!P |
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| 19:24.50 | neglesaks | ill prove it to you in offtopic,, brb |
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| 19:28.14 | WormFood | is there a debian method for adding routes to the routing table on startup? Of course I know how to do it if there is no debian way...I just want to learn the debian way if it exists for this. |
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| 19:29.50 | nsadmin | to get to the debian way, go left at the fork, drive 99 miles, go into the gas station and say "whar the hell am I?!" |
| 19:30.19 | WormFood | then I tell him where I want to go, and he says "you can't get there from here" |
| 19:30.53 | nsadmin | you want specific static routes? I think potentially you could add them to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:31.05 | nsadmin | see man 5 interfaces to see the stanza you need |
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| 19:32.02 | WormFood | yeah, I looked there before I asked here, as I thought that would be the most likely place, of the places I know...but there does not appear to be anything for adding static routes to that |
| 19:32.04 | nsadmin | (I should do this too) see man ip which is the replacement for both ifconfig and route |
| 19:32.38 | WormFood | that is just the command (I looked at that too, before I asked here) |
| 19:32.46 | nsadmin | probably that file assumes there is an interface which you want to add the route to |
| 19:32.50 | WormFood | I always just use "route" |
| 19:33.16 | WormFood | but I need to do this on startup, as this static route needs to exist all the time. |
| 19:33.21 | nsadmin | at some pt you might have to learn ip |
| 19:33.31 | WormFood | that is not a problem |
| 19:33.47 | WormFood | but, at this point....I'm just trying to discover is there is a debian way for doing this. |
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| 19:34.09 | nsadmin | maybe you could add it to lo |
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| 19:34.34 | nsadmin | generally speaking lo also needs to be up all the time |
| 19:34.42 | WormFood | hhhmmm....the interweb says it is the interfaces file for doing that |
| 19:34.55 | WormFood | maybe the man page is lacking in that area, or I overlooked it... |
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| 19:35.23 | nsadmin | I would say you'd have it run a command to add your route |
| 19:36.00 | nsadmin | there are ways in the interfaces file to have it execute commands either before, or after, bringing the interface up |
| 19:37.08 | WormFood | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/configuring-static-routes-in-debian-or-red-hat-linux-systems.html hahaha, that is exactly how they're doing it |
| 19:37.29 | WormFood | so, there is no debian specific way to do it |
| 19:37.53 | nsadmin | well the interfaces file is probably a debianism |
| 19:38.17 | WormFood | did it originate with debian, or did debian take it from another package? |
| 19:38.27 | WormFood | that thought hit me, as soon as I said that. |
| 19:38.33 | nsadmin | I was just thinking of that question |
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| 19:39.45 | nsadmin | I remember when it was first introduced in debian, and I had the distinct impression it was created in and for debian |
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| 19:39.56 | Polysics | hello |
| 19:40.10 | Polysics | my wifi connection in Gnome network manager says "device not ready" |
| 19:40.18 | nsadmin | arguello |
| 19:40.20 | WormFood | hhhmmm....since I need to add the route to a virtual network device, that is created by OpenVPN, I'm thinking that is the place to add the route command. |
| 19:40.23 | Polysics | i am probably missing some firmware, how do i know which one? |
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| 19:41.16 | nsadmin | Polysics, lspci -nn |
| 19:41.23 | WormFood | lspci, id your card, and find/install suitable firmware. You can try it on a distro like backtrack (has excellent wifi support) or knoppix....if it works there, then snag the firmware file and drop it in your debian install |
| 19:41.39 | nsadmin | and show one line of that output which describes your wireless device |
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| 19:43.21 | WormFood | it is coming up on 4am here...I'm going to bed. Thanks for your help/input nsadmin...good luck Polysics |
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| 19:43.55 | nsadmin | WormFood, welcome, take care |
| 19:44.20 | _newb | could somebody with SAMBA experience take a look: http://pastebin.com/n5QhyKjA |
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| 19:45.47 | WormFood | _newb, mount /dev/whatever -o remount,rw |
| 19:46.22 | WormFood | turns off the monitor, and goes to bed |
| 19:46.31 | _newb | WormFood: what do i put in place of "whatever" |
| 19:46.41 | _newb | WormFood: oh.. u left. |
| 19:46.48 | nsadmin | something! |
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| 19:47.03 | twobitsprite | speaking of routes... I'm having a problem with a debian system which has two IPs in the same subnet, one on eth0 the other on eth0:1... neither are pingable from outside the router for that network... is that a problem with having two IPs in the same subnet, or a problem with the router config? |
| 19:47.09 | blinki | I just updated a node from 5 to 6 and it seems that update-from-grub-legacy is missing, any ideas? |
| 19:47.23 | twobitsprite | both IPs are reachable from within the network though |
| 19:48.03 | nsadmin | blinki, you probably could just run update-grub or update-grub2 |
| 19:48.47 | nsadmin | _newb, you want to mount a share? |
| 19:48.48 | blinki | nsadmin: I tried that, my .cfg is still chainloading to grub2 with the resulting config |
| 19:49.38 | _newb | nsadmin: well i was having that problem with SAMBA and it looks like WormFood had a suggestion... |
| 19:49.58 | nsadmin | so there's a grub (probably in mbr) and a grub2 (probably in one of your primary partitions)? |
| 19:50.13 | blinki | yep |
| 19:50.14 | _newb | nsadmin: so i don't know what he meant by his solution (i'ma newb) and wanna pursue it |
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| 19:51.28 | nsadmin | you could look into smbmount |
| 19:51.50 | blinki | nsadmin: I think I'll just grub-install to the device in question's mbr |
| 19:51.56 | nsadmin | or you could use mount -t smbfs (put share here) /mount/point |
| 19:52.22 | nsadmin | blinki, that would replace any old grub on the mbr |
| 19:52.25 | sinisterstuf | is smbfs installed by default? |
| 19:52.30 | nsadmin | dunno |
| 19:52.41 | nsadmin | it might be part of smbmount |
| 19:52.41 | _newb | nsadmin: ugh.. i don't know where the list of mounts are.. is there a smb config? |
| 19:52.44 | sinisterstuf | I don't think it is, but it's easy enough to install anyway |
| 19:52.57 | namtorba | looks at nsadmin |
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| 19:53.19 | _newb | >> linux:/etc/init.d# locate smb -bash: /usr/bin/locate: Input/output error |
| 19:53.27 | nsadmin | whistles innocently and hides behind a lawn gnome |
| 19:53.31 | _newb | hahha |
| 19:53.32 | themill | nsadmin: the 21st century moved on to cifs not smbfs |
| 19:53.39 | namtorba | nsadmin: so you 'iwlist eth1 scan' .. and you get nothing? |
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| 19:54.20 | nsadmin | well I just iwlist scan and it iterates all my interfaces |
| 19:54.29 | blinki | nsadmin: that's the goal right? if update-from-grub-legacy can't be run, the same would be accomplished using grub-install with the newer version? |
| 19:54.43 | nsadmin | lo Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 19:54.52 | nsadmin | eth1 Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument |
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| 19:55.10 | nsadmin | incomplete list, but you get the idea |
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| 19:55.23 | namtorba | nsadmin: and you're sure eth1 is your wifif ? |
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| 19:56.15 | nsadmin | almost. the interface appears when I first inserted wl, and the blacklisted one would make wlan0 show up instead |
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| 19:56.33 | twobitsprite | how would I give a virtual interface (i.e., eth0:1) a different MAC than the main interface (eth0)? |
| 19:56.40 | nsadmin | (a scan on wlan0 with the b43 driver caused the machine to crash_) |
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| 19:57.10 | nsadmin | wait, you said newer version, let me read that again |
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| 19:57.52 | nsadmin | blinki, no guarantees, but I do think that's one way it can work |
| 19:59.32 | namtorba | nsadmin: if you put it in /etc/modules and reboot .. any change? |
| 19:59.41 | nsadmin | twobitsprite, not totally sure you can do that... think of how that would work... everytime a packet came in for eth0:1, it would have to match to a nonhardware mac AND there's already a hardware mac for that interface |
| 20:00.08 | twobitsprite | nsadmin: vmware does it all the time |
| 20:00.31 | nsadmin | namtorba, I'm pretty sure the driver is loaded at boot. having said that, I'm totally willing to do it now |
| 20:00.32 | _newb | nsadmin: i'm getting: EXT3-fs error (device hda1): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block........ |
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| 20:00.59 | nsadmin | what is your hda1? |
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| 20:01.14 | _newb | nsadmin: i dunno.. thought it was my primary drive |
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| 20:02.53 | nsadmin | well back in the day when there were two ide controllers each with one cable having two connectors, hda was "drive connected to primary master" |
| 20:03.31 | nsadmin | now, everything's going over to the scsi subsystem, which means instead of hda your drive would be called sda (or maybe sdb or something) |
| 20:03.48 | nsadmin | hda1 is the first partition on hda |
| 20:03.59 | _newb | nsadmin: should i be worried about my drive going? |
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| 20:04.15 | nsadmin | dunno, because not sure what the problem is yet |
| 20:04.23 | namtorba | nsadmin: so if you do the lspci -k .. you see your device with the wl driver? |
| 20:04.27 | _newb | nsadmin: what would you try? (rebooting gets things back to normal, but it's temporary, keeps failing) |
| 20:04.43 | nsadmin | namtorba, sec |
| 20:05.07 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:05.44 | nsadmin | _newb, maybe you want to put attention on the failing part first |
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| 20:06.26 | _newb | nsadmin: when i try doing a common function, like reboot or locate, i get: end_request: i/o error dev hda, sector ... |
| 20:07.32 | sinisterstuf | how do I get the "default" keyring to unlock when I log in? |
| 20:08.32 | nsadmin | frankly that doesn't sound all that great... maybe drive isn't connected securely, maybe drive is failing |
| 20:08.42 | nsadmin | look into and resolve those possibilities |
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| 20:08.57 | nsadmin | you -might- be looking at replacing the drive |
| 20:09.39 | _newb | nsadmin: kay, i'm going to power down, reseat connx to the drive, and power up.. will you be around if we need to try something else? |
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| 20:11.02 | namtorba | nsadmin: did you look for a wifi switch to make sure it's on ? |
| 20:11.06 | _newb | nsadmin: can you think of any easy way to copy existing data (say, to a USB external drive) in case it doesn't power back up? |
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| 20:14.32 | Tectu_ | guys, i need your help. I am running wheezy on a HP ProBook 4520s. It is a i5 with a radeon HD5400m. everything is working fine, but the fan is fucking my brain out. what can i do? I am not sure where the issue is. Is it because wheezy cannot handle the sensors? is it just a too big offset? |
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| 20:14.46 | thewanderer1 | is there a centralized CA cert store for all Web browsers in Debian, or do all browsers have their own certificates? |
| 20:15.29 | themill | thewanderer1: it's sometimes better not to ask questions when you know you will be disappointed by the answers. |
| 20:15.40 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: ca-certificates. Some browsers, most notably Mozilla's may ignore that. |
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| 20:16.01 | themill | as does Qt, I think. |
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| 20:16.11 | nsadmin | namtorba, also... I installed ubuntu in the hope something would work and I could duplicate those results under debian; I may reboot into ubuntu for a moment to see what the status is |
| 20:16.11 | _newb | nsadmin: the sucker's really hot inside?!!... could that be what's causing this? |
| 20:16.13 | thewanderer1 | any project to integrate that? |
| 20:16.31 | namtorba | nsadmin: do you have another wifi device to try? |
| 20:16.48 | namtorba | /etc/cacerts? |
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| 20:16.59 | themill | thewanderer1: there was some discussion about the need to do something, but when you're confusing encryption and authentication in the one thing, you're on a bit of a hiding to nothing to begin with |
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| 20:17.13 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: Read about crypto consolidation on debian-devel. |
| 20:17.31 | nsadmin | no, it's the builtin laptop wireless. and as far as priorities, I'm not in a hurry so please don't consider yourself under any pressure on my acct |
| 20:17.33 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper, themill, okay, thanks for the pointer |
| 20:17.37 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/04/msg01062.html |
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| 20:18.20 | thewanderer1 | actually I only meant CA certs, not keyrings |
| 20:18.36 | nsadmin | having said that, I want to look into it deeper than I have been to try to solve this, because I have seen it scan before under one or the other linux |
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| 20:23.06 | fschuindt | Hello guys. I'm using Debian 64 with my motherboard ASUS M3A78-EM. But all ASUS's drivers do not work in my system. This MB uses an Radeon HD3200 graphical card. Somebody knows how to install that driver? Thanks. |
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| 20:25.05 | DammitJim | how can one output gdb to a file? |
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| 20:25.52 | daemonkeeper | gdb is an interactive debugger. What exactly do you want to pipe to a file? |
| 20:26.28 | peterrooney | DammitJim: script MIGHT be a poor answer to your goal |
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| 20:27.09 | DammitJim | daemonkeeper, I need to work from one of the consoles (i.e. Ctrl + Alt + F1) |
| 20:27.18 | DammitJim | and put stuff on a file so that I can then put it on pastebin or something |
| 20:27.32 | DammitJim | I was thinking I could do a copy inside screen, but didn't know if there was an easier way |
| 20:27.32 | nsadmin | DammitJim emacs shell mode can be cool |
| 20:27.52 | peterrooney | DammitJim: then, script is what you want. in package bsdutils. |
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| 20:28.58 | daemonkeeper | gdb has an embedded script mode ... |
| 20:29.05 | Agiofws | hi |
| 20:29.15 | Agiofws | i have a youtube playlist i'd like to automate the process of which i can download each song of the playlist and convert it to an MP3 do you know of such an app that run on linux to accomplish this task ? |
| 20:29.21 | daemonkeeper | However one still has to know /what/ to put in there, its not that starting gdb would be the end of the story. |
| 20:29.38 | DammitJim | hhhmmmm |
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| 20:30.36 | nsadmin | the interface it (emacs shell mode) presents to curses-based programs is less complete of a terminal (for example less doesn't completely work), but you get all the gdb stuff into the emacs edit buffer, including what you type to gdb, the prompt and everything, and then if you save the emacs buffer into a file, you then have it |
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| 20:31.30 | debiantonio | fschuindt: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33938376 |
| 20:32.04 | nsadmin | debiantonio, DebiAn was asking for you! |
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| 20:36.33 | nsadmin | namtorba, I'll brb, booting into ubuntu to see what the status is there... |
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| 20:38.29 | bernhard2 | cant seem to enable tls on exim4 anybody want to shed some light on my issues ? |
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| 20:40.13 | namtorba | nsagrrr |
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| 20:42.49 | nsadmin | ubuntu is doing the same thing (invalid argument when iwlist scan) |
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| 20:42.54 | Polysics | hello |
| 20:42.58 | Polysics | sorry, had to run before |
| 20:43.18 | Polysics | 05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection [8086:4222] (rev 02) |
| 20:43.27 | Polysics | this is the card i am probably missing the firmware for |
| 20:43.32 | namtorba | !iwl3945 |
| 20:43.32 | dpkg | iwlwifi is a driver for Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 and WiFi Link 4965 devices since Lenny. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. If upgrading from Etch, see http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi to switch from ipw3945 to iwl3945. See also <iwlagn> <wmaster0>. #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:43.45 | nsadmin | , pciid [8086:4222] |
| 20:43.47 | judd | [8086:4222] is 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'iwl3945' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4222 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 20:43.58 | Polysics | !non-free-sources |
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| 20:44.08 | namtorba | !tell Polysics about non-free sources |
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| 20:46.42 | Aicasn | i'm having trouble finding a file. xf86-input-evtouch_0.8.8-1.diff.gz should be in pool/main/x/xf86-input-evtouch with its related files, but it isn't. can anyone help? |
| 20:47.34 | namtorba | judd: versions xserver-xorg-input-evtouch |
| 20:47.35 | judd | Package xserver-xorg-input-evtouch on i386 -- lenny: 0.8.7-3; squeeze: 0.8.8-4 |
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| 20:47.52 | namtorba | Aicasn: that version is no longer in Debian, see snapshot.debian.org if you need that specific version |
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| 20:48.11 | boudiccas | Aicasn; use ..... sudo updatedb ....... and then when its finished use .......... locate foobar ......... where foobar is your file name |
| 20:48.21 | Aicasn | i need the latest diff for evtouch_0.8.8 |
| 20:48.24 | namtorba | boudiccas: how the hell would that help ? |
| 20:48.36 | namtorba | Aicasn: but squeeze already has 0.8.8 |
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| 20:49.01 | Polysics | namtorba, mind if i ask if the firmware-iwlwifi package is all i need? |
| 20:49.27 | namtorba | Polysics: other than to configure the connection? pretty much |
| 20:49.33 | Leoneof | hello, is there are KDE 4.7 for Debian 6? |
| 20:49.38 | namtorba | no |
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| 20:49.47 | Polysics | will try rebooting |
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| 20:50.25 | namtorba | notice the part about configuring ... :( |
| 20:51.34 | Leoneof | namtorba: that no is for me? :p |
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| 20:51.53 | babilen | Leoneof: yes (presumably) |
| 20:52.19 | Leoneof | ok thanks |
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| 20:52.49 | blinki | Is there any reason the php5-fpm package doesn't exist in latest stable? |
| 20:53.00 | babilen | Leoneof: 4.7 is not even in sid yet |
| 20:53.14 | namtorba | blinki: the changelog may say |
| 20:53.17 | streuner | blinki: did you look at the changelog? |
| 20:53.22 | Leoneof | oh -_- |
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| 20:53.42 | namtorba | feels dirty .. said almost the same thing as streuner |
| 20:53.56 | babilen | heh |
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| 20:54.28 | streuner | its just an brotman... |
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| 20:55.29 | streuner | blinki: could be RC lated too, but just check out changelog first |
| 20:55.42 | streuner | s/lated/related/ |
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| 20:56.32 | blinki | it's in testing and unstable |
| 20:56.32 | streuner | judd, versions php5-fpm |
| 20:56.34 | judd | Package php5-fpm on i386 -- sid: 5.3.6-13; wheezy: 5.3.6-13 |
| 20:56.38 | blinki | I guess it's just not there. |
| 20:56.45 | blinki | and not in backports |
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| 20:57.29 | streuner | How about to backport it then? |
| 20:58.02 | Agiofws | can anyone tell me how to install compile youtube-dl on squeeze ? |
| 20:58.11 | streuner | blinki: in case you dont know /msg dpkg ssb |
| 20:58.11 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/168594 |
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| 20:58.30 | babilen | ,depends youtube-dl |
| 20:58.32 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'youtube-dl' was found in squeeze/i386. |
| 20:58.36 | babilen | ,depends youtube-dl --release sid |
| 20:58.37 | judd | Package youtube-dl -- depends: python (>= 2.5). |
| 20:58.45 | blinki | does that mean I'm a maintaner if I do that? |
| 20:58.46 | babilen | !tell Agiofws -about ssb |
| 20:58.50 | Agiofws | its not IN my package manager |
| 20:58.56 | blinki | or just backporting it myself. |
| 20:59.18 | streuner | blinki: you just make your own package |
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| 20:59.36 | babilen | blinki: The latter -- backporting php5 is probably fun (read that as: lots of work) -- No idea though as I don't use it (lucky me) |
| 20:59.57 | Agiofws | isn't there something simpler like compiling .. and installing ? |
| 21:00.03 | babilen | !tell blinki -about ssb |
| 21:00.04 | namtorba | blinki: do you really need the -fpm ? |
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| 21:00.38 | blinki | namtorba: I'm just the admin. the devs are whining about how fcgi sucks, and nginx currently sports a 502 bad gateway message on the dev box |
| 21:00.48 | blinki | so what I really need is for php to die. |
| 21:00.49 | Agiofws | can anyone tell me how i compile this ? |
| 21:00.59 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/168595 |
| 21:00.59 | babilen | Agiofws: Do you find that hard? It essentially boils down to "aptitude build-dep youtube-dl ; apt-get -b source youtube-dl ; dpkg -i ../youtube-dl*.deb" |
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| 21:01.10 | babilen | Agiofws: Please see the private message dpkg send you |
| 21:01.27 | aarkerio | Hi! there is no packages for Wine in testing? |
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| 21:02.52 | namtorba | blinki: or you need better devs :) |
| 21:02.57 | Agiofws | ixus:/home/agiofws/youtubeDL/debian# aptitude build-dep youtube-dl |
| 21:03.02 | Agiofws | Unable to find the source package for "youtube-dl". |
| 21:03.25 | streuner | Agiofws: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:03.39 | babilen | !ssb |
| 21:03.39 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 21:03.42 | CptAJ | I'm trying to download a cd image but I dont know which one, out of the 50 of them, to pick. Net install is no good for me since my ISP throttles transfers and the only way I can get good bandwidth is through bittorrent. Any ideas? |
| 21:03.49 | blinki | namtorba: they have no problem setting it up, installing from source. I want packages because it simplifies updating. across more than 10 machines, I'd switch to gentoo before I deb-src it |
| 21:04.00 | babilen | Agiofws: See what dpkg just said in the channel (and send you in a private message) |
| 21:04.11 | blinki | i digress. thanks, I will look into backporting php5 and fpm. |
| 21:04.20 | Agiofws | deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free ? |
| 21:04.28 | Agiofws | but i am using squeeze |
| 21:04.41 | Agiofws | will this break things up ? |
| 21:04.44 | blinki | AwesomezGuy: it's a src, and you'll build it yourself |
| 21:04.46 | streuner | and its not in squeeze, so what |
| 21:04.55 | AwesomezGuy | wut? |
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| 21:05.31 | streuner | Agiofws: its your own risk |
| 21:05.34 | babilen | Agiofws: No, that just enables you to download *source* packages from sid, which is exactly what you want/need in order to compile them for squeeze. (i.e. backport them) |
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| 21:06.07 | babilen | Agiofws: Just make sure that you *only* add a deb-src line for sid and no deb one! |
| 21:06.07 | namtorba | blinki: when is rolllout ? |
| 21:06.14 | namtorba | blinki: or go-live ? |
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| 21:07.27 | Agiofws | still |
| 21:07.33 | babilen | What still? |
| 21:07.34 | Agiofws | Unable to find the source package for "youtube-dl". |
| 21:07.44 | streuner | update |
| 21:07.52 | streuner | aptitude update |
| 21:07.53 | babilen | Agiofws: Did you run "apt-get update" after you edited your sources.list ? |
| 21:07.54 | Agiofws | deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 21:08.08 | Agiofws | i did |
| 21:08.29 | Agiofws | retrying |
| 21:08.33 | namtorba | judd: versions youtube-dl |
| 21:08.33 | judd | Package youtube-dl on i386 -- wheezy: 2011.02.25b-1; sid: 2011.08.04-2 |
| 21:08.57 | Agiofws | hey judd |
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| 21:09.42 | Polysics | i do not really need 3D, but i would like my guake to have real transparency - do i still need compiz? |
| 21:09.59 | Agiofws | Unable to find the source package for "youtube-dl". |
| 21:10.00 | Polysics | and in that case, how do i install nvidia drivers? just download from nvidia? |
| 21:10.54 | Agiofws | maybe aptude update and apt-get update are not the same things |
| 21:11.12 | namtorba | !tell Polysics about nvidia |
| 21:11.16 | babilen | Agiofws: Please show me your sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy" on http://paste.debian.net please |
| 21:11.29 | namtorba | Agiofws: so run apt-get update;aptitude update .. and be done with it |
| 21:11.38 | Agiofws | sh i t |
| 21:11.46 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/168598 |
| 21:11.57 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 21:13.02 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/3tgfr4RJ |
| 21:13.41 | kingsley | FYI: You can measure how old your packages are with the script at http://pastebin.com/1tEdp92i |
| 21:13.53 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/U2lLNYAZ |
| 21:13.53 | kingsley | You might be surprised to find some old packages. |
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| 21:14.07 | kingsley | Histograms of my computer before and after a "dist-upgrade" are at |
| 21:14.16 | kingsley | http://picpaste.com/4a80b4cedb82b5088f3b74f9c4bce2b2.png |
| 21:14.17 | kingsley | and |
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| 21:14.29 | kingsley | http://picpaste.com/package_ages_after_a_Debian_dist_upgrade.1-UG63ENrg.png |
| 21:14.44 | babilen | kingsley: Please do not cross-post and keep it to offtopic channels. Thank you. |
| 21:15.11 | Agiofws | babilen, can you take a look ta them ? |
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| 21:18.05 | babilen | Agiofws: those are a mess, I am surprised that you are worried about messing up your sources list. ;) -- I guess you have to fix your tovid error first though. Just remove all the crap! |
| 21:18.32 | Agiofws | which is ? |
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| 21:21.36 | blinki | namtorba: oct or nov I think |
| 21:21.45 | babilen | Hmm, where to start? wine, everything that is commented, tovid.sourceforge, quozl, ppa on launchpad, probably google ... those are all not supported in any way by us. But most importantly I was referring to the tovid one -- I will not support that system, sorry. |
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| 21:21.55 | babilen | Agiofws: ^^^ |
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| 21:23.54 | jelly-home | babilen: you DON'T want to see my sources.list.d/ |
| 21:23.58 | Agiofws | babilen, you asked for the list now you refuse to share ? |
| 21:24.23 | Agiofws | what is wrong with the tovid line ? |
| 21:24.27 | namtorba | blinki: ah okay .. not enough time to wait for wheezy to release :) |
| 21:24.39 | Agiofws | can't seem t find any syntax errors there |
| 21:24.58 | namtorba | babilen: sounds like a train wreck |
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| 21:26.15 | jhutchins_lt | tovid is just scripts. I used to run it from their svn server. |
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| 21:27.50 | babilen | Agiofws: Look at the image you've pasted |
| 21:28.34 | simpleblue | flash works very well in debian, i'm impressed |
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| 21:28.55 | simpleblue | probably the most stable flash i've seen in any distro |
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| 21:32.28 | jhutchins_lt | Agiofws: It looks to me like you just need to clean up your debian sources. Consolidate them on one line for main contrib and non-free for each and possibly add a source list to match each one. |
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| 21:33.55 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Agiofws about bdo |
| 21:34.08 | jhutchins_lt | Agiofws: You also need to update your backports. |
| 21:34.57 | bernhard2 | Can anybody help with configuring EXIM with dovecot... |
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| 21:38.27 | Polysics | anyone knows if Google Chrome adds its repository to sources in DEbian, please? |
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| 21:39.09 | namtorba | chrome is in Debian already |
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| 21:41.36 | Polysics | namtorba, really? i suck :-( |
| 21:41.42 | Polysics | is there a package around? |
| 21:42.21 | Polysics | it's named "google-chrome" too |
| 21:42.33 | Polysics | i must remember this is not the same debian from 10 years ago :-D |
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| 21:43.44 | jelly-home | ,versions google-chrome |
| 21:43.46 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'google-chrome' was found in i386. |
| 21:43.53 | Polysics | no, actually it is not there |
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| 21:44.02 | Polysics | search was finding it because i have it installed from google |
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| 21:44.12 | Polysics | namtorba, what do you mean? |
| 21:44.13 | jelly-home | Polysics: the package named "google-chrome" is provided by Google, not Debian |
| 21:44.43 | jelly-home | and yes it's adds itself to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ at installation |
| 21:44.45 | namtorba | ? |
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| 21:44.48 | namtorba | i didn't say anything |
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| 21:44.55 | namtorba | !chrome |
| 21:44.55 | dpkg | from memory, chrome is Mozilla's term for a theme or skin, or "Google Chrome", a web browser by Google based on Chromium, ask me about <chromium>. |
| 21:45.01 | namtorba | grr |
| 21:45.04 | namtorba | !chromium |
| 21:45.04 | dpkg | Chromium is an open source web browser produced by Google, based on WebKit. Google Chrome is based on Chromium. Packaged as chromium-browser in squeeze, chromium in wheezy. http://wiki.debian.org/Chromium http://www.chromium.org/Home #chromium-support on irc.freenode.net. For the game formerly known as Chromium, ask me about <chromium-bsu>. |
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| 21:45.07 | namtorba | there you go |
| 21:45.26 | Polysics | i wonder what the difference is |
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| 21:46.39 | namtorba | FIIK, i don't use it |
| 21:47.07 | Polysics | might as well use Chrome |
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| 21:51.52 | tuv | what do you use on your servers: ext3 or ext4? |
| 21:52.52 | jhutchins_lt | ext3 |
| 21:53.11 | jhutchins_lt | tuv: I don't have large enough storage or handle big enough files to need ext4. |
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| 21:57.06 | simpleblue | "Scummvm could not find any game in the specified directory", * sigh * |
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| 21:59.39 | jelly-home | tuv: I don't trust ext4 |
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| 22:00.15 | wols_ | jelly-home: any special reason? I mean ubuntu uses it. that is a seal of approval, no? |
| 22:00.45 | jelly-home | *cough* *hack* |
| 22:00.58 | wols_ | so is ext3... |
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| 22:05.40 | jhutchins_lt | pats jelly-home gently on the back. |
| 22:05.52 | g00se | Any good file system stats tools around? e.g. types of files by percentage, largest files etc. |
| 22:06.21 | jelly-home | wols_: now if you said "RHEL supports it" that might have had some weight |
| 22:06.44 | wols_ | checks jelly-home's sarcasm detector |
| 22:07.23 | jelly-home | I don't consider Canonical's support as a reference |
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| 22:08.23 | jelly-home | RHEL however, employs a number of kernel hackers, and has big customers that can lay on them if things don't work properly |
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| 22:08.29 | jelly-home | s/el// |
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| 22:18.25 | StaRetji | karlpinc: are you there mate. Till now I struggle with udev rules, read half of Google lol. As I have two identical modems, the only difference is their IMEI number. I fail to find a way to distinguish between these two in order to write udev rules. If you have any idea or tip, it would be highly appreciated. Thx |
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| 22:19.11 | namtorba | half of google? |
| 22:19.37 | bernhard2 | Cant seem to enable TLS in EXIM4 |
| 22:19.37 | bernhard2 | 03_exim4-config_tlsoptions |
| 22:19.37 | bernhard2 | .ifdef MAIN_TLS_ENABLE |
| 22:19.37 | bernhard2 | howto set this ? |
| 22:19.37 | bernhard2 | MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = yes |
| 22:19.37 | bernhard2 | MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = 1 |
| 22:19.37 | bernhard2 | MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = true |
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| 22:19.59 | namtorba | really? |
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| 22:20.41 | simpleblue | wb |
| 22:20.42 | StaRetji | namtorba: well, not really, but my eyes fill that way |
| 22:20.53 | StaRetji | feal* |
| 22:21.00 | sweetpi | feel |
| 22:21.15 | StaRetji | feel, thx |
| 22:21.27 | StaRetji | hehe |
| 22:21.35 | sweetpi | :) |
| 22:21.39 | bernhard2 | Cant seem to enable TLS in EXIM4 file 03_exim4-config_tlsoptions .ifdef MAIN_TLS_ENABLE howto set this ? MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = yes |
| 22:21.39 | bernhard2 | MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = 1 MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = true In this order ? .ifdef MAIN_TLS_ENABLE MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = 1 |
| 22:22.11 | simpleblue | sigh |
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| 22:25.11 | _Dave123_ | i get this error message |
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| 22:25.22 | _Dave123_ | Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/secure-delete/secure-delete_3.1-3_i386.deb Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' [IP: 130.89.149.21 21] |
| 22:25.27 | _Dave123_ | whats wrong? |
| 22:25.39 | namtorba | _Dave123_: aptitude update first |
| 22:25.41 | jhutchins_lt | daemon: When did you last update? |
| 22:26.21 | _Dave123_ | long time ago, am just about to clean server, format, and reinstall |
| 22:26.34 | _Dave123_ | namtorba: gives the same error * 100 |
| 22:26.43 | namtorba | ? |
| 22:26.52 | _Dave123_ | "aptitude update" |
| 22:27.01 | namtorba | dns broken ? |
| 22:27.05 | _Dave123_ | nop |
| 22:27.08 | jelly-home | mirror broken? |
| 22:27.10 | sweetpi | only -4 and -5 exist |
| 22:27.13 | _Dave123_ | i guess |
| 22:27.22 | _Dave123_ | hmm |
| 22:27.30 | _Dave123_ | sweetpi: what should i do then? |
| 22:27.35 | _Dave123_ | can i just download that tool? |
| 22:27.38 | jelly-home | and an aptitude update WON'T give that same message |
| 22:27.40 | _Dave123_ | and how can i install .deb packages? |
| 22:27.55 | _Dave123_ | jelly-home: it does |
| 22:28.07 | jhutchins_lt | _Dave123_: Is ths an etch system by chance? |
| 22:28.07 | namtorba | _Dave123_: try another mirror |
| 22:28.13 | _Dave123_ | jhutchins_lt: yes |
| 22:28.16 | boudiccas | _Dave123_; sudo dpkg -i foobar |
| 22:28.22 | jhutchins_lt | !etch sources |
| 22:28.22 | namtorba | _Dave123_: aptitude update? apt-get update? |
| 22:28.32 | _Dave123_ | namtorba: same stuff |
| 22:28.36 | jhutchins_lt | namtorba: No, the mirror has moved. |
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| 22:28.52 | jhutchins_lt | !etch sources.list |
| 22:28.52 | dpkg | methinks etch sources.list is "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security etch/updates main contrib non-free". But realise that Etch has not had security support since February 2010 and that you should upgrade to a newer release. Ask me about <etch->lenny>. |
| 22:28.57 | _Dave123_ | i will just install it with sudo dpkg -i package.deb |
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| 22:29.14 | jhutchins_lt | _Dave123_: See above, the mirror is now on archive.d.o |
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| 22:29.33 | _Dave123_ | jhutchins_lt: thanks, where should i put those? |
| 22:30.02 | jhutchins_lt | _Dave123_: /etc/apt/sources.list to replace the existing entries. |
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| 22:31.29 | sweetpi | out of curiosity, why are you updating if your going to format everything? |
| 22:31.48 | _Dave123_ | done works now |
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| 22:31.56 | _Dave123_ | need to run this tool |
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| 22:32.12 | sweetpi | ah ok |
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| 23:12.49 | phasma | hi, guys. Got an issue here I seek assistance with, if possible, please. A dist-upgrade has killed x and trying to reinstall is giving me dep issues |
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| 23:14.19 | boudiccas | phasma; i'm not a guy but i'll still answer you, did you do an apt-get update first? |
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| 23:14.46 | phasma | boudiccas: of course. As always |
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| 23:16.29 | themill | phasma: dist-upgrade from what to what? What packages changed? What are you reinstalling? What display driver are you using? |
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| 23:17.26 | phasma | themill: well. I update and upgrade once a week. Had to restart the box earlier. Using the Intel driver |
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| 23:21.02 | phasma | ahh, think I found the problem |
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| 23:22.31 | latagore | Hi, I want to replace ubuntu with Debian, but I have /home on another partition. I am worried that ecrypt is not supported by default |
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| 23:30.17 | boudiccas | latagore; ecrypt, if that is the package name, isnt in the base repos for squeeze |
| 23:31.07 | latagore | boudiccas: it should be something like ecryptfs-utils |
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| 23:32.35 | boudiccas | latagore; well thats there for 6.02 |
| 23:33.15 | boudiccas | latagore; along with ..... ecryptfs-utils keyutils libecryptfs0 |
| 23:33.41 | latagore | boudiccas: Does it come in the installer images, or do I have to get it from the repos? |
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| 23:34.22 | boudiccas | latagore; i dont know if its in the first dvd/cd of the isos, but it is available from the repos |
| 23:35.26 | imatsu | please a need help, my disk show a message Cant read Superblock |
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| 23:35.45 | imatsu | and syslog show long message |
| 23:36.08 | streuner | superblock messages are usually a PITA |
| 23:36.10 | imatsu | the harddisk is WD 2.0 TB |
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| 23:36.17 | imatsu | WD Caviar Green |
| 23:36.22 | streuner | oh, USB-HD |
| 23:36.28 | streuner | ic |
| 23:36.29 | imatsu | external disk |
| 23:36.32 | streuner | sure |
| 23:36.33 | latagore | boudiccas: How can I check if it is available in the ISOs? |
| 23:36.47 | boudiccas | latagore; no idea, sorry |
| 23:37.03 | latagore | boudiccas: Alright, thanks for your help |
| 23:37.04 | imatsu | I need to recovery all my data |
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| 23:37.14 | boudiccas | latagore; yw |
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| 23:37.54 | streuner | imatsu: and you arent care to make a new FS on that HD? |
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| 23:38.22 | streuner | because superblock messages usually tend to |
| 23:38.32 | imatsu | no |
| 23:38.58 | latagore | Is the root account disabled on debian? |
| 23:39.15 | streuner | no? |
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| 23:39.43 | streuner | Debian user are in most cases root by default... |
| 23:39.56 | imatsu | sorry my english is not so good |
| 23:40.05 | bst | latagore: see http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ |
| 23:40.59 | latagore | streuner: Maybe my noobiness is getting ahead of myself; is it possible to log in as root at a login screen? I know this can't happen in ubuntu, at least |
| 23:41.01 | streuner | imatsu: doesnt matter much, because superblock issues is usually a pain |
| 23:41.20 | streuner | sure |
| 23:41.46 | imatsu | ok, and I can recovery my data? |
| 23:41.48 | imatsu | how? |
| 23:42.08 | themill | latagore: no |
| 23:42.48 | latagore | themill: alright. This is replaced by sudo and su, yes? |
| 23:43.25 | themill | latagore: if you choose to use sudo, yes. It's not necessarily installed and configured for you. |
| 23:43.34 | streuner | imatsu: from backup? |
| 23:43.35 | sweetpi | themill: what do you mean no? since when? |
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| 23:44.23 | imatsu | streuner, I don't have |
| 23:44.44 | latagore | themill: I am slightly confused; when you say "it", do you mean ecryptfs or sudo? |
| 23:44.45 | imatsu | streuner, my hard disk is dead? |
| 23:44.51 | themill | sweetpi: since at least etch. Probably earlier... I can't say I've every tried. |
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| 23:44.59 | themill | latagore: sudo |
| 23:45.27 | sweetpi | themill: squeeze and wheezy both allow root login here by default |
| 23:45.35 | themill | orly? |
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| 23:45.48 | latagore | themill: then how does the administration work in debian o_o |
| 23:45.50 | themill | which display manager is this? |
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| 23:46.09 | themill | latagore: you answer this question yourself.... su. |
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| 23:46.56 | latagore | themill: Ah. I am not experienced with other distributions, so that is why I ask |
| 23:46.57 | sweetpi | themill: now i feel stupid, I thought you were talking about console logins :) |
| 23:47.07 | dbbo | how can i found out what type of filesystem this SD card is so i can mount it? |
| 23:47.10 | latagore | sweetpi: can you disable root login? |
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| 23:47.27 | streuner | imatsu: i dont know, usually when i got superblock isses, i make the FS new, maybe somebody else has a solution. |
| 23:47.34 | sweetpi | latagore: sure if you want |
| 23:47.47 | latagore | sweetpi: how can this be done? |
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| 23:50.13 | sweetpi | latagore: very easily but I'd rather you find it by searching. I don't want to be responsible for you getting locked out :) |
| 23:50.33 | latagore | sweetpi: Alright, thanks :] |
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| 23:57.37 | latagore | What do the last numbers mean on the iso image? "debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-CD-52.iso" |
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| 23:58.53 | streuner | 52? |
| 23:59.02 | streuner | or .2.1? |
| 23:59.23 | streuner | 52 should be selfexplained nowadays |
| 23:59.51 | streuner | .2.1 are updates, most likely security updates in stable |
