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| 06:45.16 | pbase | How do i setup the desktop resolution to 1366x768. I dont get that option in the settings dropdown. kernel - 2.6.32-5-686 |
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| 06:47.55 | KnightsWhoSayNi | you must have one of those tv displays |
| 06:48.12 | pbase | KnightsWhoSayNi: Its a new laptop |
| 06:48.21 | adhoc | my lenovo laptop runs that res too |
| 06:48.48 | pbase | Will i need to upgrade the kernel? |
| 06:48.54 | adhoc | what does xrnandr tell you ? |
| 06:48.59 | adhoc | xrandr |
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| 06:49.24 | pbase | should i paste the result here? |
| 06:49.31 | KnightsWhoSayNi | i think the best you can hope for is 1024x768 and stretch |
| 06:49.40 | adhoc | pbase: no, use a pastebin |
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| 06:49.49 | adhoc | and past ethe resultant url here |
| 06:50.20 | adhoc | KnightsWhoSayNi: its becoming a common screen size on modern laptopns |
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| 06:50.41 | pbase | adhoc: http://pastebin.com/smfpL9Uh / KnightsWhoSayNi, I am exactly on that (stretched) |
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| 06:51.26 | adhoc | pbase: what is the controller you got in that thing? and what X server is it running? |
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| 06:53.05 | pbase | adhoc: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) . How do i find the xserver version? |
| 06:53.20 | adhoc | ah |
| 06:53.26 | adhoc | what is this laptop? |
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| 06:53.44 | jelly-home | "new enough not to be fully supported with squeeze xorg" |
| 06:53.50 | pbase | adhoc: hcl brand (based in India) |
| 06:53.56 | adhoc | jelly-home: that what i was thinking |
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| 06:54.30 | adhoc | pbase: ok, can you find the model number of the graphics chipset, use lspci |
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| 06:55.05 | jelly-home | pbase: show the "lspci -nn" line for that card |
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| 06:55.15 | KnightsWhoSayNi | i had a monitor/tv type display like that at one time. they make it like that because it is standard on tv , but it realy isn't on a pc type monitor |
| 06:55.29 | adhoc | KnightsWhoSayNi: they are nowdays |
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| 06:55.59 | adhoc | its pretty much all you can buy locally, save the really big 1950x1200 27" screens |
| 06:56.14 | pbase | adhoc: http://pastebin.com/EpZKhVkw |
| 06:56.56 | jelly-home | pbase: lspci -nn, please |
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| 06:57.22 | jelly-home | the pci id number is what's interesting |
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| 06:58.15 | pbase | adhoc: 8086:0116 |
| 06:58.49 | KnightsWhoSayNi | what about 14400x900 or 1920X1200 - whare are you from? |
| 06:58.52 | adhoc | this looks close ; http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=65043 |
| 06:58.53 | jelly-home | ,xorg 8086:0116 |
| 06:58.56 | judd | Device 8086:0116 is not matched by any xorg drivers in squeeze or sid. |
| 06:58.59 | jelly-home | huh |
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| 06:59.13 | jelly-home | ,pciid 8086:0116 |
| 06:59.15 | judd | [8086:0116] is '2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'ata_generic' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0116 |
| 06:59.30 | jelly-home | adhoc: that's not the VGA card pci id, is it? |
| 06:59.46 | jelly-home | er, pbase ^^ |
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| 07:00.40 | pbase | judd: thats right. jelly-home its the vga chipset |
| 07:01.05 | jelly-home | pbase: paste the actual output of "lspci -s 00:02.0 -nn" command |
| 07:01.18 | adhoc | pbase: in your config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you will find a Section called "Device" |
| 07:01.33 | adhoc | pbase: what is the Driver? |
| 07:01.37 | pbase | jelly-home: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09) |
| 07:01.55 | jelly-home | weird |
| 07:02.39 | KnightsWhoSayNi | i think you will find the best you are going to get is 1024x768 |
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| 07:02.58 | pbase | adhoc: thexorg.conf file is not there |
| 07:03.26 | adhoc | oh |
| 07:03.35 | pbase | KnightsWhoSayNi: i have a suse partition running 2.6.37. It works fine in it |
| 07:04.05 | jelly-home | pbase: you're going to need a newer debian release to make it run properly, then |
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| 07:04.25 | pbase | jelly-home: i downloaded is a couple of weeks back |
| 07:04.30 | pbase | it* |
| 07:04.34 | adhoc | pbase: which version of debian are you running? |
| 07:04.40 | pbase | squeeze |
| 07:05.17 | jelly-home | pbase: that is the latest stable, but your hardware is newer and squeeze doesn't support your card properly |
| 07:05.34 | jelly-home | testing might |
| 07:05.58 | adhoc | is it a sane thing to do to apt-pin the xserver stuff to testing? |
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| 07:06.04 | jelly-home | no |
| 07:06.08 | adhoc | k |
| 07:06.26 | jelly-home | it's probably saner to upgrade the whole thing |
| 07:06.31 | adhoc | yeah |
| 07:06.47 | jelly-home | with all the consequences that testing brings |
| 07:06.55 | adhoc | pbase: you got any important data on that debian machine? |
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| 07:08.47 | pbase | adhoc: its single partitioned disk 500gb |
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| 07:09.05 | adhoc | the roll on the dist-upgrade to testing ;) |
| 07:09.15 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell pbase about squeeze->wheezy |
| 07:09.18 | adhoc | s/^the/then |
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| 07:10.29 | pbase | i can do that. |
| 07:10.46 | pbase | how often are security changes pushed onto it? |
| 07:11.22 | pbase | also what kernel does wheezy use? |
| 07:11.24 | adhoc | not often enough |
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| 07:11.56 | pbase | adhoc: just installed in the partitino |
| 07:12.09 | pbase | so no data |
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| 07:13.25 | pbase | thanks all :-) will update |
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| 07:15.59 | odn | hi everyone |
| 07:18.00 | pbase | updating |
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| 07:19.46 | pbase | i am on http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0116 how do i find the motherboard manufacturer? |
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| 07:27.55 | sauvin | What's a graphics controller got to do with the motherboard? |
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| 07:31.06 | ParkerR | sauvin: it asks for a motherboard vendor as extra details |
| 07:31.12 | he1kki | valdyn_: We managed to get mysql working, thanks for help! |
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| 08:00.57 | auska | hi! I've installed LAMP but apache don't show me my php errors, so is very hard to debug where should i set it? |
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| 08:03.18 | iceroot | auska: by default apache is only writing them to /var/log/apache2/error.log and not displaying them on the website |
| 08:03.45 | iceroot | auska: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini to change it |
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| 08:05.21 | auska | thanks iceroot ;) |
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| 08:09.30 | zxd | Hi |
| 08:09.49 | zxd | is there any performance benefit of running debian 64bit |
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| 08:09.52 | zxd | vs 32bit |
| 08:10.04 | zxd | are there still some missing packages from 64bit ver |
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| 08:11.54 | boudiccas | zxd; ver what? |
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| 08:14.47 | chenthu | Solved my broadcom wifi isuue.....i thank all the people who supported me in resolving this issue ..... |
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| 08:15.19 | zxd | boudiccas: squeeze |
| 08:17.19 | boudiccas | zxd; thanks for that, although i still dont know what 'ver' means? |
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| 08:19.57 | zxd | version* |
| 08:20.47 | boudiccas | zxd; ah right, thanks for that |
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| 08:22.31 | Karen_m | i made changes to /etc/security/limits.conf, * soft nofile 65000 and * hard nofile 65000 ... But when I do; su -l mongodb, ulimit -a only shows 1024 for the number of files. Why is that? |
| 08:23.28 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. Where can I find information on how Debian's default OpenLDAP installation differs from the OpenLDAP reference? For example, the reference talks alot about slapd.conf but Debian (squeeze) has a slapd.d directory. That would be fine, except many of the attributes mentioned in the reference to be found within slapd.conf are missing in the slapd.d/ tree. So where can I get some more... |
| 08:23.30 | Pegasus_RPG | ...information on this? |
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| 08:24.14 | Pegasus_RPG | The only thing I found so far is http://www.debian-administration.org/article/585/OpenLDAP_installation_on_Debian#ldap-install but it too talks about slapd.conf |
| 08:24.47 | jelly-home | Pegasus_RPG: check out if there's anything useful in /usr/share/doc/slapd/ for a start |
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| 08:26.02 | kgoetz | Pegasus_RPG: if all else fails grab teh source and look at the debian patches dir |
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| 08:27.42 | Pegasus_RPG | hrm, seems slapd.conf is in /usr/share/slapd that's really weird |
| 08:29.15 | Pegasus_RPG | but there's useful docs in there, so thank you |
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| 08:37.01 | ppr | la |
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| 08:37.39 | ppr | tomeslav, au boulot au lieu de chatter |
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| 08:41.36 | boudiccas | ppr; speak english and people will understand you! |
| 08:41.56 | ppr | lol, sorry that was a private joke with tomeslav |
| 08:42.17 | ppr | bye |
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| 08:49.12 | chenthu | guys can i install 32 bit .deb package on a 64 bit system ? |
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| 08:54.08 | tomeslav | yes, with dpkg --force-architecture |
| 08:54.14 | kfigglework | hi guys - got a problem with proftp as root - anyone familiar with the debian packages of it ? |
| 08:54.31 | zxd | is there a security repository for squeeze |
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| 08:55.08 | kfigglework | I can only write to directories to which root has access...if its only "open" for users, proftpd cant put files |
| 08:55.17 | kfigglework | this is somewhat strange |
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| 08:55.50 | kfigglework | lenny still - a customer just wants it like this and I have to set it up |
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| 08:56.07 | kfigglework | before I compile proftpd myself i thought I ask around here |
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| 09:03.43 | sixyearsofdreams | having issus with sendmail anyone familiar?? |
| 09:04.39 | Karen_m | where do we put the ipfilter settings? |
| 09:04.44 | Karen_m | iptables rather |
| 09:05.12 | peterray | I put mine at rc.local. |
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| 09:05.20 | kfigglework | what about sendmail |
| 09:05.27 | kfigglework | how can one help? |
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| 09:05.57 | sixyearsofdreams | i followed the guide here http://www.aboutdebian.com/internet.htm |
| 09:06.37 | sixyearsofdreams | just for the sendmail part |
| 09:06.39 | sixyearsofdreams | not the rest |
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| 09:06.56 | sixyearsofdreams | i have this web server since lenny |
| 09:07.01 | sixyearsofdreams | never could figure out sendmail :/ |
| 09:07.43 | kfigglework | what are you trying to do ? |
| 09:07.55 | ParkerR | sixyearsofdreams, what are you trying to use it for? |
| 09:07.57 | sixyearsofdreams | wordpress, when users register it wont send out notifications |
| 09:08.22 | kfigglework | if you install sendmail vie apt-get it should run out of the box |
| 09:08.33 | ParkerR | Hmm fdm is better than sendmail imo |
| 09:08.41 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 09:08.52 | sixyearsofdreams | i can remove sendmail i guess |
| 09:09.15 | kfigglework | look at sendmail.cf |
| 09:09.31 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah |
| 09:09.32 | sixyearsofdreams | and |
| 09:09.33 | kfigglework | look at the logs |
| 09:09.51 | kfigglework | it should try to send - if theres no try, there is a prob |
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| 09:10.06 | kfigglework | if theres a dsn error - perhaps you dont have a valid ptr |
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| 09:10.43 | bvs | it can also be that you need to use a smarthost, probably is if you're hosting it at home |
| 09:10.50 | sixyearsofdreams | mailer=relay, pri=30051, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] |
| 09:11.08 | sixyearsofdreams | that was inside mail.log |
| 09:11.42 | ParkerR | Umm is that only doing localhost? |
| 09:11.55 | kfigglework | ok try to set this |
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| 09:12.01 | kfigglework | dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MTA-v4, Port=smtp )dnl |
| 09:12.03 | ParkerR | Seems like that should be contacting the outside |
| 09:12.19 | jelly | dpkg, tell zxd about squeeze sources.list |
| 09:12.36 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: already lookedi n the sendmail.mc and enabled that option |
| 09:12.38 | kfigglework | remove dnl at the beginning ...the lines like in the guide, only without the addr part |
| 09:12.46 | sixyearsofdreams | oh |
| 09:12.50 | sixyearsofdreams | remove dn1? |
| 09:12.55 | kfigglework | yes |
| 09:12.59 | kfigglework | activate it |
| 09:13.05 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: "dnl" means it's commented out |
| 09:13.09 | kfigglework | but leave out the last address part |
| 09:13.22 | sixyearsofdreams | oh |
| 09:13.24 | kfigglework | xactly - thx jelly |
| 09:13.28 | sixyearsofdreams | the guide said to put dn1 infront of them |
| 09:13.32 | sixyearsofdreams | ok sorry let me do that real quick |
| 09:13.36 | kfigglework | to comment it out |
| 09:13.40 | sixyearsofdreams | remove dn1 |
| 09:13.45 | jelly | whoever created that syntax ought to be shot |
| 09:13.56 | ParkerR | Mhmm |
| 09:13.59 | kfigglework | but sendmail doesnt seem to start correctly on your interface, as it doesnt accept connections |
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| 09:14.11 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: and it's not "dn1", it's "dnl" small L |
| 09:14.16 | simonlnu | dnl |
| 09:14.24 | simonlnu | use a better font... |
| 09:14.27 | jelly | do not like |
| 09:14.27 | kfigglework | oh - i didnt get that - correct |
| 09:14.37 | kfigglework | perhaps this misspelling is the error already |
| 09:14.42 | simonlnu | do not list |
| 09:14.53 | jelly | do not resuscitate Sendmail |
| 09:14.55 | simonlnu | (i think) |
| 09:14.59 | simonlnu | hehe |
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| 09:15.12 | simonlnu | autoconf is full of that, with m4 |
| 09:15.48 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: ok so now , just reconfigure sendmail? |
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| 09:16.02 | simonlnu | (and you wonder why there's alternates to that hunk of you-know-what :P) |
| 09:16.14 | kfigglework | cd /etc/mail |
| 09:16.19 | simonlnu | !sendmail should die |
| 09:16.24 | kfigglework | make |
| 09:16.26 | simonlnu | meh |
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| 09:16.30 | kfigglework | if you edited the mc |
| 09:16.36 | kfigglework | and restart it |
| 09:16.37 | simonlnu | make -C /etc/mail |
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| 09:17.03 | sixyearsofdreams | how do i restart sendmail |
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| 09:18.27 | sixyearsofdreams | ok its reloaded |
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| 09:25.33 | kfigglework | what does the log tell you - perhaps - if still not working - pastebin |
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| 09:25.57 | kfigglework | perhaps install mailx and send a testmessage |
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| 09:31.35 | censor | hi all |
| 09:32.06 | censor | i need to pass a command to a serial console, so i get the output back on the original host (for writing to a log) |
| 09:32.31 | censor | i tried picocom with <<EOF dmesg EOF, no dice... |
| 09:32.37 | censor | how can this be done? |
| 09:32.37 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: is there anything easier than sendmail? |
| 09:32.42 | petemc | censor: looked at socat ? |
| 09:32.51 | censor | sixyearsofdreams: postfix =) |
| 09:32.58 | censor | petemc: i'll have a look |
| 09:33.01 | kfigglework | easier ? different :-) |
| 09:33.07 | sixyearsofdreams | censor: ok |
| 09:33.11 | kfigglework | postfix, exim |
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| 09:33.17 | kfigglework | exim is default debian imo |
| 09:33.47 | kfigglework | in my opinion sendmail IS easy - if you keep to mc directives |
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| 09:34.17 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: with sendmail or postfix, when users register at my wordpress ( website ) notifications will be sent to them? |
| 09:34.45 | kfigglework | any mailserver doeas this as long a script passes the mails to the server |
| 09:34.48 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: i kinda just tried exim4 |
| 09:35.15 | sixyearsofdreams | so as long as my end passes everything through to another email? |
| 09:35.27 | sixyearsofdreams | i dont need to have my ISPs information in order for this to operate |
| 09:35.43 | sixyearsofdreams | just a little confused sorry :/ if i get grasp on this my knowledge will def increase hah |
| 09:35.58 | kfigglework | keep to the steps - first check that sendmail itself runs correctly and accepts mails - test it via mailx and local ccounts |
| 09:36.13 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 09:36.21 | kfigglework | then go to the next step to "debug" the handover from wordpress to sendmail |
| 09:36.23 | sixyearsofdreams | now i must install sendmail again >.< |
| 09:36.39 | sixyearsofdreams | let me do that real quick |
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| 09:36.56 | kfigglework | you can stick to whatever you have |
| 09:37.22 | kfigglework | if you remove an reinstall files of different packages but whith the same purposes...purge them ! |
| 09:37.32 | kfigglework | be sure nothing is left behind |
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| 09:38.37 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: http://pastebin.com/kaZKDpG8 |
| 09:38.45 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: this would be part of the instalation of sendmail |
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| 09:38.58 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah i purged them |
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| 09:39.51 | sixyearsofdreams | http://pastebin.com/qLQG8Yjx |
| 09:39.58 | kfigglework | as already pointed out : /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 57: unknown configuration line "dn1" |
| 09:40.15 | kfigglework | this has to be an l (small l) not a 1 |
| 09:40.44 | kfigglework | replace this line |
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| 09:42.25 | kfigglework | the sasl part is only needed for smtp-auth - you can leave this out if you accept mail locally and not via smtp-auth |
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| 09:45.28 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: any movement in /var/log/mail.log ? like "...starting daemon (8.14.3)..."? |
| 09:46.32 | sixyearsofdreams | i have to check really quick |
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| 09:46.53 | sixyearsofdreams | there is lieraly no dn1 on line 57 |
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| 09:48.50 | infinite | Hi Folks: I just installed FreeBSD along side with Debian, I dont knwo aboout FreeBSD IRC Hat, so please pardon me, I have just a simple query. |
| 09:49.15 | infinite | Please pardon my typing |
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| 09:50.16 | infinite | I have ksh as the default prompt, I installed TexLive on FreeBSD, I have to set PATH variable, I set it in .profile, also in .kshrc and nothing seems to work |
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| 09:52.50 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: if you purged all files, then all should be fine |
| 09:53.29 | kfigglework | what does the log say now ? and is sendmail up and running ? do "ps auxww | grep sendmail | grep accept" |
| 09:53.49 | kfigglework | should reveal one line |
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| 09:56.40 | sixyearsofdreams | ok sec |
| 09:56.53 | chenthu | uys i have an MTS MBlaze 3g Data card and i wish to use that in linux.... they have provided a .deb file that is for i386 and i have a 64 bit system what to do? |
| 09:57.00 | chenthu | guys* |
| 09:57.27 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: nothing happens when i try ps auxww it just return on the new line |
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| 09:57.34 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: i cant even telnet localhost 25 |
| 09:57.53 | censor | petemc: can't get socat to open the port, i'm using: socat - OPEN:/dev/ttyS0,ispeed=115200,ospeed=115200,crnl,sane,raw,echo=1 |
| 09:58.31 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: apt-get purge package |
| 09:58.35 | sixyearsofdreams | is the correct way to purge right |
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| 09:59.23 | kfigglework | jep |
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| 09:59.29 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 09:59.44 | sixyearsofdreams | the command you gave me doesnt work, and i cant even telnet to port 25 |
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| 10:00.02 | kfigglework | to be sure to have all set back to original - move away /etc/mail if still exists before (re)installing sendmail |
| 10:00.20 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:00.22 | sixyearsofdreams | lets do that again sec |
| 10:02.52 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: this time it installed it really quick weird |
| 10:03.01 | kfigglework | if done and all isinstalled - go to /etc/mail - there check sendmail.conf....beware - the name is exactly like i wrote ..not .cf |
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| 10:03.47 | sixyearsofdreams | this is weird, mail is not even there now |
| 10:04.07 | kfigglework | ouch |
| 10:05.21 | sixyearsofdreams | /usr/sbin/sendmail start doesnt work either |
| 10:05.34 | kfigglework | a??? |
| 10:05.40 | kfigglework | ououououch |
| 10:06.11 | kfigglework | so - first remove anything again: |
| 10:06.25 | kfigglework | dpkg -l | grep -i sendmail |
| 10:06.25 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep -i sendmail |
| 10:06.25 | infinite | Can anybody answer my question? |
| 10:06.36 | kfigglework | *G* |
| 10:06.41 | kfigglework | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.41 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep -i sendmail |
| 10:06.45 | sixyearsofdreams | wait |
| 10:06.53 | sixyearsofdreams | ok its installing fine now |
| 10:07.02 | kfigglework | then apt-get purge it |
| 10:07.04 | kfigglework | ah |
| 10:07.18 | kfigglework | it should start by itself |
| 10:07.26 | kfigglework | check the log or the pslist |
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| 10:08.13 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: http://pastebin.com/45XnPHs4 |
| 10:08.17 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: little differant now |
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| 10:09.13 | sixyearsofdreams | mail is there now |
| 10:09.25 | sixyearsofdreams | sendmail.conf is there |
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| 10:14.01 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: i can telnet to 25 now aswell |
| 10:14.14 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: something is working ok |
| 10:14.31 | simonlnu | fyi, you do invoke-rc.d sendmail start, not /usr/sbin/sendmail start |
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| 10:14.45 | simonlnu | !invoke-rc.d |
| 10:14.45 | dpkg | from memory, invoke-rc.d is a way of starting or stopping daemons such as a mail server, cron, etc. invoke-rc.d has advantages over running the init script directly in that it is easier to tab complete, it will play nicely with dependency-based init systems like <insserv> and <upstart>. It can also be controlled with a <policy-rc.d> script. invoke-rc.d *must* be used in maintainer scripts -- see policy s9.3.3.2. |
| 10:14.54 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:16.18 | kfigglework | to be inependent of underlying os - use /etc/init.d/sendmail.... |
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| 10:16.33 | infinite | Where is the config file for Korn Shell? Where do I define the Path? Thanks |
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| 10:19.19 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: here is a test http://pastebin.com/tWvwnePt |
| 10:19.25 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: folowed instructions on the link |
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| 10:21.20 | jelly | infinite: for mksh, the DESCRIPTION section in the manual covers your question about the rc file |
| 10:21.40 | sixyearsofdreams | if i delete mail.log will it be recreated? |
| 10:22.05 | jelly | ,info mksh |
| 10:22.07 | judd | Package mksh (shells, optional) in squeeze/i386: MirBSD Korn Shell. Version: 39.3.20100725-1; Size: 301.6k; Installed: 592k; Homepage: http://mirbsd.de/mksh |
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| 10:23.05 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: your syslog service writes to /var/log/mail.log -- if you reload or restart it, the file will be reopened and recreated if absent |
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| 10:25.17 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:25.19 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: looks good - doesnt it ? |
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| 10:25.53 | kfigglework | to test - use a cmdline app like mailx - is easier than doing the telnet handshake |
| 10:25.56 | sixyearsofdreams | 00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30562, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p73AVDvW026829 Message accepted for delivery) |
| 10:26.03 | sixyearsofdreams | oops sorry |
| 10:26.05 | kfigglework | but looks good so far |
| 10:26.08 | jelly | !paste |
| 10:26.08 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 10:26.13 | sixyearsofdreams | accident |
| 10:27.03 | kfigglework | so now, if you want to send outbound mail, the main problem is the reverse dns entry - the ptr record |
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| 10:27.26 | kfigglework | but simply try it with wordpress and watch the log what happens |
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| 10:28.18 | SammyTheSnake | how do I interrupt or omit an on-boot fsck of a known broken filesystem? (it's large and terminally broken and I intend to re-format it rather than wait possibly hours to fsck it on boot!) |
| 10:28.52 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: so my wordpress is not ready to send out notifications yet? |
| 10:29.00 | SammyTheSnake | I think I remember there being a kernel command line parameter to skip fsck, is that right? |
| 10:29.41 | infinite | jelly, Thanks I will read the info and try out something. |
| 10:30.38 | peterray | You can edit the sixth field of the fstab entry for that filesystem to 0. |
| 10:31.06 | SammyTheSnake | peterray: only once the fsck has already completed and the system is up :-( |
| 10:31.30 | SammyTheSnake | peterray: thankfully, fsck just quit trying because the system was too broken and dumped me into single user mode where I could actually do exactly that :) |
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| 10:32.05 | jelly | SammyTheSnake: you can also Ctrl-C a running fsck |
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| 10:32.29 | sixyearsofdreams | but my internal 'mail' command wont work now :/ |
| 10:32.35 | SammyTheSnake | jelly: it didn't work when I tried it, perhaps the keyboard isn't connected to the relevant process when it runs at boot... |
| 10:33.08 | SammyTheSnake | finds the answer he was looking for : http://www.gnode.net/how-to-skip-forced-fsck/ says just add "fastboot" to the kernel command line, which can be done in grub |
| 10:33.18 | SammyTheSnake | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.13 | jokar | hello all |
| 10:35.17 | jokar | o/ all |
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| 10:36.37 | hroi | hi |
| 10:36.58 | jokar | how change my swap space?i make a new hdd and have 502MB in my first hdd for swap i want Increase my swap space |
| 10:37.13 | jokar | how do it? |
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| 10:37.32 | hroi | Im wondering, Im doing a python setup.py install, and I get... things like Python.h and datetime.h missing |
| 10:37.42 | jokar | :-/\ |
| 10:38.04 | hroi | I guess in debian there is no python-dev package by default. |
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| 10:38.30 | hroi | doing a aptitude search python-dev... gives me a lot of things.. and i dont know where to start? |
| 10:39.18 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: you still around |
| 10:39.21 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: http://pastebin.com/N14LpYa1 |
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| 10:39.53 | sixyearsofdreams | it sounds like im close |
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| 10:40.50 | peterray | What is it you want to do, hroi? |
| 10:41.38 | kfigglework | was off for a min ..back now |
| 10:42.29 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: ah ok |
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| 10:42.42 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: posted you a link looks like im getin close, it just above http://pastebin.com/N14LpYa1 |
| 10:43.01 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: No route to host - means 1) no net connection 2) dns not setup correctly 3) sendmail on wrong interface |
| 10:43.25 | kfigglework | can you ping the hosts mentioned in the log ? |
| 10:43.30 | sixyearsofdreams | well im on the box atm |
| 10:43.37 | sixyearsofdreams | so it has internet connection 100% |
| 10:43.41 | sixyearsofdreams | sure |
| 10:43.43 | sixyearsofdreams | i ping |
| 10:44.13 | sixyearsofdreams | 64 bytes from alt2.gmail (74.125.93.27): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=124 ms |
| 10:44.23 | kfigglework | ok fine so far |
| 10:44.25 | sixyearsofdreams | which is alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com |
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| 10:44.34 | kfigglework | now we go back to /etc/mail |
| 10:44.38 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:44.38 | jokar | hey all |
| 10:44.42 | sixyearsofdreams | hi |
| 10:44.42 | kfigglework | look at sendmail.conf |
| 10:44.53 | jokar | i add a swap partition but debian not use it |
| 10:44.55 | jokar | ? |
| 10:44.57 | sixyearsofdreams | got it |
| 10:45.00 | kfigglework | set the appropriate interface (i assume eth0, NOT lo) |
| 10:45.15 | sixyearsofdreams | let me check that real quick |
| 10:45.21 | kfigglework | and where possible, set daemon as mode |
| 10:45.23 | sixyearsofdreams | eth0 |
| 10:45.33 | kfigglework | ok |
| 10:45.43 | kfigglework | now check the sendmail.mc file |
| 10:46.04 | sixyearsofdreams | DAEMON_NETIF="eth0"; - looks like its running on correct one |
| 10:46.10 | kfigglework | fine |
| 10:46.11 | chenthu | guys does anyone have an idea about installing a i386 .deb file in a amd64 system?...... this is for my MTS MBlaze 3g Datacard |
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| 10:46.33 | kfigglework | check sendmail.mc |
| 10:46.36 | jelly | chenthu: what does the package contain |
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| 10:47.32 | sixyearsofdreams | part of it looks like this, this may be what we are looking for http://pastebin.com/T0YAbTns |
| 10:47.48 | chenthu | jelly: it contains the application to operate(like connecting, recharging and stuffs) my MTS MBlaze 3g data card.... |
| 10:47.48 | sixyearsofdreams | some of them have dn1 in front of the lines |
| 10:48.32 | kfigglework | well - that should work already as it is, but simply to be sure - copy and paste the dnl from the lines above |
| 10:48.54 | hroi | peterray: I want to have the Python.h and stuff |
| 10:48.55 | kfigglework | put the dnl in front of the lines |
| 10:49.02 | kfigglework | this is DNL |
| 10:49.03 | kfigglework | LLL |
| 10:49.05 | kfigglework | not 1 |
| 10:49.12 | hroi | peterray: the basic python dev files... |
| 10:49.20 | sixyearsofdreams | oh jeez 'L' not 1 |
| 10:49.21 | sixyearsofdreams | great hah |
| 10:49.26 | hroi | peterray: Im not sure how I find out the right package to apt-get |
| 10:49.30 | sixyearsofdreams | so do as the guide said |
| 10:49.33 | kfigglework | we already told you so |
| 10:49.45 | chenthu | jelly: any idea? |
| 10:49.51 | sixyearsofdreams | these http://pastebin.com/JEide7Nfhttp://pastebin.com/JEide7Nf |
| 10:49.51 | kfigglework | then |
| 10:49.53 | peterray | If you want the headers, python-dev is probably what you want. |
| 10:49.55 | kfigglework | make |
| 10:49.57 | sixyearsofdreams | http://pastebin.com/JEide7Nf lines |
| 10:50.00 | kfigglework | and reload sendmail |
| 10:50.20 | colo-work | does the current stable kernel support AMD's SB850? (esp. the AHCI SATA-6G-controller?) |
| 10:50.23 | hroi | peterray: but when I look at aptitude search python-dev ... I get too much stuff... |
| 10:50.28 | kfigglework | send test message |
| 10:50.28 | jelly | chenthu: unpack it, see what libraries/files it needs, change the control files accordingly and repack back as amd64 package |
| 10:50.36 | hroi | peterray: or is it detailing sub-backages. |
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| 10:50.40 | kfigglework | look at log |
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| 10:50.56 | sixyearsofdreams | ok relading |
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| 10:51.00 | jelly | chenthu: or force install it like suggested before, and try to fix missing dependencies manually |
| 10:51.04 | chenthu | jelly: hhw do i do that i am new to linux but i am quick and easy to learn |
| 10:51.14 | kfigglework | if still no route to host..the prob is somewhere else, not the lo interface |
| 10:51.29 | jelly | chenthu: someone else is going to have to explain that; me -> lunch |
| 10:51.30 | peterray | I don't know. Try "apt-cache show python-dev". |
| 10:52.14 | chenthu | jelly: ok thank you for the idea...:) |
| 10:52.34 | sixyearsofdreams | Aug 3 03:58:09 six sm-mta[26774]: restarting /usr/sbin/sendmail-mta due to signal |
| 10:52.54 | sixyearsofdreams | well this one is the deamon one Aug 3 03:58:14 six sm-mta[27558]: starting daemon (8.14.3): SMTP+queueing@00:10:00 |
| 10:53.00 | sixyearsofdreams | so it seems like its running |
| 10:53.05 | sixyearsofdreams | try sending mail out? |
| 10:53.32 | kfigglework | chenthu: - you can use the virtual filesystem of "mc" to introspect packages and extract them to the filesystem |
| 10:53.51 | kfigglework | sendmail is running now - fine |
| 10:53.58 | kfigglework | now try outbound mail again |
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| 10:54.27 | chenthu | kfigglework: mc? |
| 10:54.34 | kfigglework | apt-get install mc |
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| 10:54.58 | kfigglework | a filemanager for console like norton commander known from dos |
| 10:55.08 | kfigglework | powerful :-) |
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| 10:55.15 | kfigglework | extensible |
| 10:55.20 | kfigglework | and nice |
| 10:55.22 | kfigglework | imo |
| 10:55.46 | kfigglework | run "mc", navigate to the .deb, and press enter on it |
| 10:55.52 | kfigglework | go to CONTENTS |
| 10:55.58 | kfigglework | copy wherever you want |
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| 10:56.50 | chenthu | kfigglework: ok thank you for the information... :) |
| 10:57.04 | kfigglework | welcome :-) |
| 10:57.04 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: did another test anfter sendmailconfig after we did the editing, output = 050 <sixyearsofdreams@gmail.com>... Deferred: alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: No route to host |
| 10:57.26 | kfigglework | hmmm - still :-/ |
| 10:57.33 | kfigglework | there is a problem somewhere else |
| 10:57.36 | sixyearsofdreams | could it be because its runing on 127.0.0.1 |
| 10:57.38 | kfigglework | not sendmail |
| 10:57.55 | sixyearsofdreams | wouldnt it be running on a local ip like 192.168.0.11 |
| 10:57.57 | kfigglework | we should have sorted this out by commenting these lines with dnl |
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| 10:58.12 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah i did comment them |
| 10:58.16 | sixyearsofdreams | oh how about in hosts |
| 10:58.32 | kfigglework | no, there should be a route to the internet via your interface you are connected |
| 10:58.44 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:58.46 | sixyearsofdreams | one sec |
| 10:58.55 | kfigglework | you can ping the hosts, so there should be some kind of route |
| 10:59.04 | kfigglework | so this gets weird here |
| 11:00.29 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: paste the log afert sending the mail..wanna take a closer look |
| 11:01.02 | chenthu | kfigglework: wow 'mc' is amazing... now what should i do? |
| 11:01.04 | kfigglework | think youve srewed up something else here or aren't "finished" with configuring your net |
| 11:01.28 | kfigglework | chenthu: what do you want to do ? ;-) |
| 11:01.42 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: ok one sec |
| 11:01.51 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: doing a test atm and ill paste |
| 11:01.53 | kfigglework | [12:55] <kfigglework> run "mc", navigate to the .deb, and press enter on it |
| 11:02.00 | kfigglework | ff |
| 11:02.51 | chenthu | kfigglework: yeh i have already done that and i have extracted the files to a folder in desktop... now how do i find the required binaries and files to rebuild it to a amd64 .deb file |
| 11:03.35 | kfigglework | you wanna rebuild it ? not use it with 32-bit compat-libs ? |
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| 11:03.47 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: $ |
| 11:03.47 | sixyearsofdreams | $ailer=esmtp, pri=30628, relay=alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. [209.85.143.27], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: No route to host |
| 11:04.01 | kfigglework | why don't you use a src.deb directly if you wanne rebuild ? |
| 11:04.32 | chenthu | kfigglework: if it is possible then sur i will use it with a 32-bit compatible libs |
| 11:04.38 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: gimme some more lines on pastebin - theres some stuff missing |
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| 11:04.49 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: =30350, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p73B7Si9028221 Message accepted for delivery) - - line right after the above line |
| 11:04.53 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
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| 11:05.53 | kfigglework | if you wanna use it directly, copy (F5) the files to the appropriate locations |
| 11:06.28 | kfigglework | they are given as directory structure from / in the CONTENTS |
| 11:06.54 | kfigglework | so CONTENTS/etc is /etc and so on |
| 11:07.15 | chenthu | kfigglework: yeah checkd that... thanks for the help man... i will try every possible options out there and post the results.... afteral its a bit of a learning process |
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| 11:07.37 | kfigglework | welcome :-) |
| 11:07.50 | kfigglework | think you just described "life" :-) |
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| 11:09.05 | chenthu | kfigglework: lol... did i?... :) |
| 11:10.03 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: http://pastebin.com/xDLMJz1y |
| 11:10.13 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: the ending of what doesnt show is No route To host on that email |
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| 11:10.21 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: kinda hard to paste from putty :/ |
| 11:11.03 | sixyearsofdreams | sensible-mda missing? |
| 11:13.12 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: try : aptget install sendmail sendmail-base sendmail-bin |
| 11:13.18 | kfigglework | yes theres something missing |
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| 11:13.31 | kfigglework | but the route should be a different prob |
| 11:14.35 | kfigglework | further - you WILL run into problems sending mail if your dns isnt setup properly |
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| 11:14.48 | sixyearsofdreams | i see |
| 11:15.29 | kfigglework | six.fish.com....i assum thats the hostname, and this doesnt exist |
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| 11:15.57 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: no route to host |
| 11:16.00 | sixyearsofdreams | is the main issue now |
| 11:16.03 | sixyearsofdreams | other issues are gone |
| 11:16.17 | sixyearsofdreams | correct doesnt exist |
| 11:16.37 | kfigglework | so - doe set it up in dns |
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| 11:18.51 | sixyearsofdreams | how do i do that |
| 11:19.19 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: tho told you to use this domainname ? |
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| 11:20.07 | kfigglework | sixyearsofdreams: who does "own" the domain fish.com...someone there must setup the subdomain that it resolves to your internet ip |
| 11:20.09 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: no one i set this up long time ago |
| 11:20.39 | sixyearsofdreams | webserver is hooked up straight to the modem |
| 11:20.46 | sixyearsofdreams | so its dhcp resloves all of that i would assume |
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| 11:20.59 | sixyearsofdreams | i dont care about that six.fish.com as long as this thing works |
| 11:21.02 | kfigglework | that will raise other issues later, but thats irrelevant for now |
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| 11:21.37 | kfigglework | you got a local dns server with dhcp running ? |
| 11:21.47 | kfigglework | pderhaps you can tweak there a bit |
| 11:21.59 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah |
| 11:22.04 | sixyearsofdreams | i can find the servers |
| 11:22.05 | sixyearsofdreams | i think |
| 11:22.08 | kfigglework | else just write the hosts to your /etc/hosts file for now |
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| 11:22.38 | sixyearsofdreams | i got both dns addreses |
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| 11:22.55 | kfigglework | ? both ? |
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| 11:23.39 | sixyearsofdreams | it has two |
| 11:23.41 | sixyearsofdreams | dns 1 and 2 |
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| 11:24.12 | kfigglework | i think i am really patient today :-) ok, lets start it over from scratch |
| 11:24.29 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 11:24.51 | kfigglework | you are connected to the internat via a modem ? directly or is there a router inbetween ? |
| 11:25.04 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: some are recomending i check resolv.conf |
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| 11:25.13 | sixyearsofdreams | no router, the modem is a routher aswell |
| 11:25.15 | sixyearsofdreams | router* |
| 11:25.30 | sixyearsofdreams | so its straight to this modem/router and i did port forwarding 21 22 and 80 |
| 11:26.02 | kfigglework | aha, ok, then this modem/router acts as a dhcp and dns server as well ? or does ist forward the adreses ? |
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| 11:26.17 | sixyearsofdreams | dhcp and dns server all of it yes |
| 11:26.20 | sixyearsofdreams | i would assue |
| 11:26.24 | sixyearsofdreams | i never set any nameservers anyhwhere |
| 11:26.26 | kfigglework | just try to set your nameservers to googles open ones - try 8.8.8.8 |
| 11:26.26 | sixyearsofdreams | dns servers i mean |
| 11:26.44 | sixyearsofdreams | 8.8.8.8 is the naeserver? |
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| 11:27.34 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: looks like this http://pastebin.com/c3aQPYYK |
| 11:27.35 | kfigglework | cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf-bak && echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8">/etc/resolv.conf |
| 11:27.35 | sixyearsofdreams | right now |
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| 11:28.31 | kfigglework | what is the ip of your server where wordpress and sendmail are located ? |
| 11:28.55 | sixyearsofdreams | 67.5.130.224 |
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| 11:29.18 | kfigglework | sure ? not perhaps one of 192.168.x.y ? |
| 11:29.35 | kfigglework | think you are behind your router which masks these |
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| 11:29.54 | sixyearsofdreams | well its local |
| 11:30.00 | sixyearsofdreams | 192.168.0.11 |
| 11:30.02 | sixyearsofdreams | is the local one |
| 11:30.07 | kfigglework | so first take your local ip |
| 11:30.10 | kfigglework | ok |
| 11:30.13 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 11:30.16 | sixyearsofdreams | do u still want me to do the nameserver |
| 11:30.42 | kfigglework | echo "192.168.0.11 six.fish.com">>/etc/hosts |
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| 11:31.14 | sixyearsofdreams | ok done that |
| 11:31.21 | sixyearsofdreams | it added one line at the end in hosts |
| 11:31.23 | sixyearsofdreams | i see it |
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| 11:31.28 | sixyearsofdreams | i did not do the resolv.conf |
| 11:31.32 | sixyearsofdreams | google server |
| 11:31.36 | kfigglework | and then we need to inform sendmail to take mails vor the six...domain as well : |
| 11:31.51 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 11:32.04 | kfigglework | echo "six.fish.com">>/etc/mail/local-host-names && /etc/init.d/sendmail reload |
| 11:32.39 | kfigglework | then once more try to send a message..perhaps the unknown route was only to your own unresolvable domainname |
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| 11:32.57 | babe24f | opera is not supported in debian is it ? |
| 11:32.59 | sixyearsofdreams | reloading |
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| 11:33.07 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 11:33.07 | babe24f | swiftfox is not supported in debian is it ? |
| 11:33.12 | sixyearsofdreams | gonna trying to send mail brb |
| 11:33.14 | kfigglework | the other issue is, that gmail won't accept mails from your local/dynamic ip adress, I assume |
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| 11:34.02 | babe24f | swiftfox has its own deb files downloadable from their site yet its not supported in debian IS IT ?? |
| 11:34.04 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: il try another |
| 11:34.27 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah its taking a while it doenst likke lie its gonna go |
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| 11:35.06 | babe24f | smells an agenda here |
| 11:35.26 | sixyearsofdreams | same issue deffered ill try another email |
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| 11:35.50 | sixyearsofdreams | yahoo |
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| 11:36.43 | sixyearsofdreams | mail.log still only shows no route to host |
| 11:37.08 | sixyearsofdreams | port forward? |
| 11:37.12 | kfigglework | ok, so there is a network issue somewhere there |
| 11:37.28 | sixyearsofdreams | do any ports need to be forwarded for outbound? |
| 11:37.50 | kfigglework | yould be anything - try a traceroute to the host it cant figure out |
| 11:38.30 | kfigglework | if you have a full nat /masquerading net there is no need for it |
| 11:39.01 | kfigglework | if it would be only a firewall issue the thing would simply timeout, i guess |
| 11:39.03 | sixyearsofdreams | same thing on yahoo |
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| 11:39.16 | kfigglework | no route to host means...no route to host :-) |
| 11:39.16 | sixyearsofdreams | how about the nameservers |
| 11:39.19 | sixyearsofdreams | maybe thats the issue |
| 11:39.23 | sixyearsofdreams | lol |
| 11:39.48 | kfigglework | you setup the /etc/resolv.conf like i posted |
| 11:40.25 | kfigglework | if you then can ping google.com or some other host, domainresolution *should* be ok, but i cant say that from here |
| 11:40.40 | kfigglework | but you said you can ping and reach the hosts |
| 11:40.48 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah |
| 11:41.02 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah its working fine when i ping |
| 11:41.04 | sixyearsofdreams | im on the machine right now |
| 11:41.08 | sixyearsofdreams | irssi running on it |
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| 11:46.26 | kfigglework | wenn - your sendmail problem is resolved...now you mut check your net issue |
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| 11:46.41 | kfigglework | sending mail locally and inbound should work fine already |
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| 11:47.42 | kfigglework | as i don't know your net-structure and/or firewallsetup/routing setup you have to fix this |
| 11:48.03 | kfigglework | traceroute all hosts that sendmail complains about "no route to host" |
| 11:48.09 | kfigglework | and try to sort it out |
| 11:48.47 | kfigglework | perhaps...do you have multiple nics in that server ? |
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| 11:49.04 | kfigglework | is eth1 connected to the internet and not eth0 ? |
| 11:49.05 | sixyearsofdreams | no just one |
| 11:49.20 | sixyearsofdreams | just eth0 |
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| 11:49.37 | kfigglework | all just looking at /dev/glaskugel as us germans say |
| 11:49.57 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: It is the policy of Qwest that email sent from a dynamically assigned IP address should be sent out only via the designated outbound mail server allocated to Qwest customers. To find the hostname of the correct mail server to use, customers should consult the original signup documentation as provided by their ISP or contact Qwest Technical Support. |
| 11:50.27 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: If you are not using normal email software but instead are running a mail server and you are the owner of a Static IP address in the range 67.5.128.0/19 and you have a legitimate reason for operating a mail server on this IP, you can automatically remove (suppress) your static IP address from the PBL database. |
| 11:50.34 | kfigglework | jea, smarthost - thats to prevent the issues i mentioned |
| 11:50.52 | kfigglework | but they should at least prvide a route to these hosts |
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| 11:51.19 | sixyearsofdreams | kfigglework: not sure how to do that |
| 11:51.22 | kfigglework | check all at the ip level |
| 11:51.27 | kfigglework | traceroute |
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| 11:52.11 | kfigglework | i'll be around this evening, gotta work to do now for a little while |
| 11:52.16 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
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| 11:52.39 | kfigglework | check your net setup ...think that'll resolve all the rest |
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| 11:55.00 | cysioland | Hi |
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| 11:55.05 | cysioland | I have a problem with Network Manager |
| 11:55.20 | cysioland | I have net, all is working, but Pidgin shows "Waititng for connection" |
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| 11:55.38 | cysioland | And Conduit plugin for FireFox don't connects |
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| 11:56.26 | systemclient | Stable ships with virtualbox 3.x, but I need 4.x (for USB support). I guess Kubuntu would be the only senseful option for me, then? |
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| 11:57.03 | cysioland | systemclient: You have repo on VB site |
| 11:57.24 | systemclient | cysioland: isn't that unsafe or whatever? |
| 11:57.37 | jelly | how can I get unix timestamp for "midnight, localtime, 1st of next month" |
| 11:57.53 | cysioland | systemclient: Nope, that's official repo from Oracle |
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| 11:59.01 | jelly | systemclient: it's closed source, binary only, but free for noncommercial and academic usage |
| 11:59.40 | jelly | and has had usb2.0 support for years |
| 11:59.53 | systemclient | jelly: but the 3.x does not offer USB support afaik |
| 12:00.18 | wols_ | ,versions virtualbox-ose |
| 12:00.18 | jelly | systemclient: the vendor's binary packages do |
| 12:00.19 | judd | Package virtualbox-ose on i386 -- lenny: 1.6.6-dfsg-3; lenny-backports: 3.2.4-dfsg-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.2.10-dfsg-1; squeeze-backports: 4.0.4-dfsg-2~bpo60+1; squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+1; sid: 4.0.10-dfsg-1; wheezy: 4.0.10-dfsg-1 |
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| 12:00.30 | jelly | ooh backportses |
| 12:00.39 | wols_ | systemclient: see the backport? only usb 1.1 tho |
| 12:00.51 | systemclient | that is not really cool with my scanner … |
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| 12:01.04 | systemclient | so I have to go with the squeeze repo from vbox.org then? |
| 12:01.23 | jelly | if you need usb2, yeah |
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| 12:03.18 | wols_ | jelly: why? the ext pack should work for everything |
| 12:03.30 | jelly | why what |
| 12:03.32 | ParkerR | I dont think I havent ever gotten USB working in VBOX. Vmware has waay better usb support. And Vmware PLayer is free |
| 12:03.39 | ParkerR | *have |
| 12:03.44 | wols_ | supposedly (I don't understand how it could e usable for all OSes) |
| 12:04.10 | systemclient | ParkerR: I have heard that vmplayer is better, I just use vbox because it is the first I tried. Does it have 3D support for Windows XP? |
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| 12:04.17 | sx9 | Hi |
| 12:04.26 | wols_ | ParkerR: vmware player now has usb support? and is free for commrcial use even? It definitely is not Freelike vbox is |
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| 12:04.46 | ParkerR | Well you have to make an account to download it but it is free |
| 12:04.47 | sx9 | could it be, that grep doesn't support '[' and ']' characters? |
| 12:05.00 | sx9 | I always try to do cat /usr/share/applications/*.desktop | grep Name[de]= without any success |
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| 12:05.05 | ParkerR | systemclient, yes it has its own tools you can install |
| 12:05.08 | wols_ | sx9: your shell doesn't hand over those to grep |
| 12:05.13 | cysioland | I have a problem with Network Manager. I have net, all is working, but Pidgin shows "Waititng for connection" |
| 12:05.23 | sx9 | Is there an option to ignore those characters? |
| 12:05.32 | wols_ | sx \[de\] |
| 12:05.33 | sx9 | or to avoid that |
| 12:05.52 | sx9 | wols_: Doesn't work |
| 12:06.03 | civillian | \[de\]\= perhaps |
| 12:06.13 | jelly | sx9: escape them using \, and single quote the whole search pattern |
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| 12:06.53 | sx9 | jelly: Ahh! Thanks! |
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| 12:06.57 | nettezzaumana | hello |
| 12:07.06 | ParkerR | wols_, and yes vmware has the same awesome USB support as workstation |
| 12:07.13 | ParkerR | *vmware player |
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| 12:07.33 | m8 | When i typing in gnome-terminal 3.0.1 on debian testing the terminal freeze, any solution? |
| 12:08.31 | wols_ | ParkerR: but not for commercial use, right? |
| 12:08.43 | ParkerR | Prolly not |
| 12:09.05 | ParkerR | But for a single user it is a great alternative to vbox |
| 12:09.22 | ParkerR | s/great/superior/ XD |
| 12:09.35 | systemclient | okay, so I should definitly try it? How can I migrate my VMs? |
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| 12:09.52 | ParkerR | Umm eww not as easy |
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| 12:10.16 | ParkerR | Vbox has support for vmware images but vmware does not have support for vbox images |
| 12:10.31 | Bushmills | sx9: escape them. |
| 12:11.01 | sixyearsofdreams | do i have to restart anything after editing my /etc/hosts ? |
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| 12:11.19 | systemclient | sixyearsofdreams: should be instant |
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| 12:11.25 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 12:11.29 | jelly | systemclient: pretend they're not VMs and migrate them that way? |
| 12:11.30 | Bushmills | ah... as wols said already |
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| 12:11.36 | nettezzaumana | would anyone show me output of uname -a with 32bit debian on 64bit capable system ? we have a little dispute with one my friend |
| 12:11.45 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: eg. dd the whole disk contents |
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| 12:12.03 | systemclient | jelly: you mean with rsync and stuff? does not make too much sense since they are just like sandboxes for stable |
| 12:12.06 | systemclient | there is no data in them |
| 12:12.17 | systemclient | jelly: or unstable or testing or ubuntu or SuSE ... |
| 12:13.01 | jelly | systemclient: that might work as well, but I meant a block-based tool, not a file-based one |
| 12:13.13 | systemclient | like dd over network? |
| 12:13.16 | jelly | systemclient: yeah |
| 12:13.23 | systemclient | jelly: how does that work? |
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| 12:13.56 | jelly | systemclient: boot a livecd, and replicate the whole disk while the machine is not in use |
| 12:14.29 | systemclient | jelly: I think I am faster if I just reinstall the system from the CD disk image |
| 12:14.41 | systemclient | jelly: okay, my windows is another story |
| 12:14.46 | jelly | systemclient: sure, whatever works for you |
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| 12:15.09 | Nu^253r | has anyone had anyproblmes with upgrading to xfce4.8 ?! |
| 12:15.10 | systemclient | jelly: I even have a package proxy on my computer now, so that should be a blast |
| 12:15.20 | jelly | windows might choke if you change the hardware underneath it without doing sysprep anyway |
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| 12:16.52 | systemclient | jelly: yeah, don't we all like this trait of windows :-/ |
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| 12:17.29 | jelly | sometimes it works tho |
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| 12:18.28 | jelly | added a second cpu to my vmware xp guest and... it booted up, found hardware, installed something or other, wanted to reboot, and booted up again |
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| 12:24.54 | ParkerR | I didnt see you say anything |
| 12:25.13 | ParkerR | Oh |
| 12:25.17 | ParkerR | Pidgin |
| 12:25.19 | ParkerR | No clue |
| 12:25.23 | cysioland | And Conduit |
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| 12:25.32 | cysioland | I heard it's from NM |
| 12:25.44 | cysioland | I'm even trying experimental version! |
| 12:25.48 | cysioland | I have Debian Wheezy |
| 12:26.16 | ParkerR | That may be why it isnt working |
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| 12:26.41 | cysioland | On Squeeze it was crashing |
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| 12:26.56 | Amnesia_ | ehm question |
| 12:26.58 | cysioland | I have the same when I'm using modem |
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| 12:27.06 | Amnesia_ | 5~apt-get: |
| 12:27.09 | Amnesia_ | apt-get: symbol _ZNSt8__detail15_List_node_base7_M_hookEPS0_, version GLIBCXX_3.4.15 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference |
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| 12:27.24 | Amnesia_ | I'm getting that error now I've just upgraded from squeeze to wheezy.. |
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| 12:28.34 | Amnesia_ | guess I should try and reinstall libstdc++ ? |
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| 12:29.09 | jelly | Amnesia_: pastebin the output of ldd /usr/bin/apt-get |
| 12:29.32 | Amnesia_ | jelly: https://privatepaste.com/7ff0986cd3 |
| 12:30.17 | sixyearsofdreams | can i change sendmails port, my ISP blocked port 25 |
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| 12:31.29 | jelly | Amnesia_: yeah, which version of libstdc++6 is installed? How exactly did you upgrade? |
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| 12:31.37 | jelly | ,versions libstdc++6 |
| 12:31.38 | judd | Package libstdc++6 on i386 -- lenny: 4.3.2-1.1; lenny-backports: 4.3.4-6~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.4.5-8; wheezy: 4.6.1-4; sid: 4.6.1-5 |
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| 12:32.00 | Amnesia_ | jelly: replace squeeze with wheezy in my sources file, and then apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade |
| 12:32.36 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: yes, but no mail server will be able to deliver there if you plan to use it to receive mail for a domain |
| 12:32.52 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: why are you using Sendmail, anyway |
| 12:32.54 | Amnesia_ | jelly: 4.6-20110125-1 |
| 12:33.08 | sixyearsofdreams | 1. Change your email client to send email using port 5871. Change your email client to send email using port 587 |
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| 12:33.22 | jelly | Amnesia_: doesn't look like you did a proper dist-upgrade |
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| 12:33.32 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: all i want is my wordpress to be able to send notifications to my registers |
| 12:33.47 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: when soemone signs up it sends notifications |
| 12:33.56 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: so you just need to send mail? |
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| 12:34.09 | sixyearsofdreams | i suppose |
| 12:34.11 | Amnesia_ | jelly: I've got the correct version of libstdc++ right./.? |
| 12:34.14 | sixyearsofdreams | its in wordpress its needs an mta |
| 12:34.24 | jelly | Amnesia_: no, look at what judd said above. |
| 12:34.34 | Amnesia_ | well yes I read it.. |
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| 12:34.37 | wols_ | sixyearsofdreams: use a smarthost |
| 12:34.49 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: it needs _any_ MTA. Both Postfix and exim are easier to set up |
| 12:34.52 | sixyearsofdreams | wols_: im not very good when it comes to this, can you explain please |
| 12:34.52 | Amnesia_ | but I haven't got squeeze: libstc++ 4.4.5-8 .. |
| 12:35.07 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: but my isp blocked Port 25 |
| 12:35.21 | wols_ | !smarthost |
| 12:35.22 | dpkg | A smart host is a type of mail relay server (typically provided by your ISP), which allows an SMTP server to route e-mail to an intermediate mail server, rather than directly to the recipient's server. |
| 12:35.22 | sixyearsofdreams | it specificly said i can not run my own mail server without contacting them and getin some sort of static ip |
| 12:35.27 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: does your ISP give you their own SMTP server to use, instead? |
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| 12:35.50 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: i believe so yes |
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| 12:36.16 | wols_ | sixyearsofdreams: what you do inside your LAN, the ISP cont decide. they can make it impossible for you to send mail to different networks however |
| 12:36.19 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: yes we can use smtp |
| 12:36.24 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: that's what a "smarthost" is. Configure your local MTA to send using your ISP's smarthost |
| 12:36.49 | wols_ | as I said: use a smarthost, either ony provided by your ISP or a 3rd party one, e.g gmail can be used |
| 12:36.57 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: i can switch to another mta if you recommend i dont mind i guess |
| 12:37.13 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: it doesn't really matter if you know how to configure it |
| 12:37.24 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.net4india.com') |
| 12:37.31 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: do i use my own ISPs smtp ? |
| 12:37.42 | sixyearsofdreams | ok wols_ looking into it |
| 12:38.25 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: I don't remember much about Sendmail, that line seems reasonable if "smtp.net4india.com" is your ISP's smarthost, and if you can telnet smtp.net4india.com 25 |
| 12:39.13 | sixyearsofdreams | ok net4india is not my isp |
| 12:39.22 | sixyearsofdreams | that was from google but ill find my isp smtp and edit that |
| 12:39.26 | sixyearsofdreams | doing so right now |
| 12:39.29 | jelly | Amnesia_: I have no idea where you got 4.6-20110125-1 from but it's not available any more |
| 12:39.38 | Amnesia_ | hm okay |
| 12:39.40 | Amnesia_ | well nvm |
| 12:39.45 | Amnesia_ | I'm doing a dist-upgrade now |
| 12:39.53 | Amnesia_ | thx for the tip |
| 12:40.00 | jelly | Amnesia_: if apt worked, you'd be able to apt-cache policy libstdc++6 |
| 12:40.06 | wols_ | sixyearsofdreams: why do you use sendmail? |
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| 12:40.39 | Amnesia_ | jelly: apt isnt working^^, but thx though^^ |
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| 12:41.42 | sixyearsofdreams | wols_: i just need any kind of mta |
| 12:41.55 | sixyearsofdreams | wols_: when users register on wordpress it sends them notifications |
| 12:42.09 | wols_ | then why did you install sendmail of all available MTAs? |
| 12:42.10 | sixyearsofdreams | where exactly do i instert this define(`SMART_HOST' line in sendmail.mc |
| 12:42.14 | sixyearsofdreams | can it be anywhere? |
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| 12:42.33 | sixyearsofdreams | wols_: i wasnt really aware of any better soemone said sendmail was favord by debian |
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| 12:43.58 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: pop.ptld.qwest.net |
| 12:44.19 | sixyearsofdreams | define(`SMART_HOST',`pop.ptld.qwest.net') |
| 12:44.31 | sixyearsofdreams | i just am not sure where to put it in the sendmail.mc |
| 12:44.57 | jelly | as far as I remember, order matters at least for some settings |
| 12:45.08 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah |
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| 12:45.25 | jelly | if you're not well versed in Sendmail I'd suggest replacing it with postfix |
| 12:45.55 | jelly | it asks a couple questions and has a predefined smarthost setup |
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| 12:46.09 | sixyearsofdreams | should i remove/purge sendmail? |
| 12:46.16 | jelly | no, just install postfix first |
| 12:46.38 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 12:46.53 | jelly | purge remaining sendmail* cruft later after the replacement MTA is installed |
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| 12:47.25 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: if you don't need local delivery, you might get something even simpler, like ssmtp or nullmailer |
| 12:48.31 | jelly | !ssmtp |
| 12:48.32 | dpkg | sSMTP is an extremely simple <MTA> to get mail off the system to a mailhub. It does not receive mail, expand aliases or manage a queue. As of ssmtp 2.64-1, /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf is no longer readable to all users (see Debian bugs #500454, #557948). http://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP . See also <nullmailer>. |
| 12:48.46 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 12:48.56 | jelly | (mailhub = smarthost) |
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| 12:51.03 | Amnesia_ | why the heck is dbus a depenency for redshift in wheezy o0... |
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| 12:59.18 | systemclient | my stable has a lot of short freezes when under load. Is it just me or is ne newer .38 kernel better in that matter? |
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| 13:03.02 | peterray | There was actually some buzz about the automatic process grouping that was introducing in .38. |
| 13:03.07 | peterray | introduced* |
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| 13:03.56 | peterray | There was also the VFS improvements that some claim increased speed of path lookup by 20%+. |
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| 13:04.40 | peterray | So you may be noticing an improvement, yes. |
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| 13:07.19 | aleee | is there any release date for debian 7? |
| 13:07.21 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: i got it setup with ssmtp |
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| 13:07.43 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: i telnet and tested it out, but its setup with gmail lol |
| 13:07.46 | abrotman | aleee: when it's ready |
| 13:08.03 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: the simpler the better |
| 13:08.06 | aleee | ha! the tests versions |
| 13:08.14 | abrotman | what tests versions ? |
| 13:08.40 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: but will wordpress colaborate with this ssmtp and send out notifications |
| 13:08.45 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: sendmail used to leave some packages behind, look at dpkg -l 'sendmail*' | grep ^.i |
| 13:09.41 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: if your php app uses php mail() function, it will use /usr/sbin/sendmail, no matter what package provides it. So: yes |
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| 13:10.14 | D-Boy | Hi, i'm trying to setup sshfs on my debian squeeze desktop, with root everything works out of the box but with user i keep getting this error 'fuse : failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied' i already do addgroup user fuse, and chgrp fuse /dev/fuse , any idea ? |
| 13:10.18 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly: but i have ssmtp now not sendmail |
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| 13:10.30 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: indeed |
| 13:10.41 | abrotman | D-Boy: did your user logout/login? |
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| 13:10.51 | sixyearsofdreams | right but you said php mail function will use sendmail |
| 13:11.05 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: nope, I didn't |
| 13:11.08 | D-Boy | abrotman, from the terminal yes, from gnome no, do i have to reload the gnome session ? |
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| 13:11.56 | pbase | Switched on to debian testing.. the screen resolution is now fixed to 1366x768! |
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| 13:12.40 | pbase | have to fix a few issues though.. the headphones dont work |
| 13:13.41 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: it's confusing a bit. PHP mail(), by default, uses the "/usr/sbin/sendmail" command. When a random php app docs say you need "sendmail", they _really_ mean "you need a working MTA that provides the /usr/sbin/sendmail command with a certain standard API". ssmtp is one of the packages in Debian that gives you such a command. |
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| 13:14.39 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: you don't need actual Sendmail, you just need a MTA that acts like it |
| 13:14.39 | sixyearsofdreams | OK |
| 13:14.40 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
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| 13:16.07 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: echo test | mailx -s 'some subject' recipient@example.com # if the mail arrives, your MTA is working |
| 13:17.06 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: (might need to install bsd-mailx or mailutils for the mailx command) |
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| 14:02.42 | tdrusk | When I try to mount a filesystem with Thunar it gives me "Failed to mount "58 GB Filesystem". Not authorized" How can I make it so I can click and open them. I believe in Gnome I typically have to enter my root password to perform this action. |
| 14:04.25 | balleyne | tdrusk: not 100% positive, but you might have to have the filesystems listed in /etc/fstab in order to mount as non-root? are these local filesystems, or pluggable external hard drives via USB? |
| 14:05.14 | tdrusk | balleyne: They are just other partitions on my local drive. |
| 14:06.10 | balleyne | tdrusk: yeah, I think it has to do with /etc/fstab, e.g. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/mounting-ext3-partition-with-rw-permissions-for-non-root-user-337244/ |
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| 14:07.18 | balleyne | tdrusk: In Ubuntu at least, "If a device/partition is not listed in fstab ONLY ROOT may mount the device/partition." https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab I don't imagine it's different for Debian... |
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| 14:07.36 | balleyne | "Users may mount a device/partition if the device is in fstab with the proper options." |
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| 14:09.04 | tdrusk | balleyne: okay. I will mess with that. I was hoping there was a more friendly way but I guess since I'm not using Gnome or KDE I shouldn't complain. :P |
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| 14:11.08 | balleyne | tdrusk: there might be a more friendly way, but I'm not super familiar with Thunar. I assume by a more friendly way, you don't mean mounting it on the command line as root? ;) That would be the other option, without messing with fstab, but you'd have to do it every time... with fstab, once you've got it working you won't have to touch it anymore |
| 14:11.38 | Bushmills | tdrusk: it wouldn't be "friendly" if anybody could mount your drive and change your data, just because they're running kde or gnome |
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| 14:12.04 | Bushmills | you as admin want to have a say about that too |
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| 14:13.18 | balleyne | I suppose in Gnome, the root password prompt was there. That wouldn't exist with the fstab solution. Not sure if that's a key requirement, what kind of data you have on the partition, what kind of users on the machine, etc... |
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| 14:14.22 | balleyne | "gksu thunar" would let you run *Thunar* as root, but that's running the *whole* application as root -- not a great idea or a proper solution... potentially another work around, depending on your circumstances |
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| 14:14.57 | sarguru | has anybody used debian on ibm mainframes |
| 14:15.01 | Bushmills | pmount is often recommended in those situations |
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| 14:16.00 | sarguru | Please tell me where I can find the kernel and the ram file for the debian s-239 iso to kick off the ipl |
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| 14:16.36 | Justin | sarguru: is this what you need? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/s390/ ? |
| 14:17.00 | sarguru | Justin, I have the iso |
| 14:17.18 | sarguru | to do an ipl I need to take the kernel and the ramfile from the iso |
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| 14:17.29 | dbolser | hi |
| 14:17.50 | sarguru | Justin, In other archs I find it in the isolinux folder but c |
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| 14:18.20 | dbolser | I'm trying to add 'deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free' to my sources.list, but when I update I get a NO_PUBKEY error |
| 14:18.24 | sarguru | Justin, But I cant find anything similar to it in this version |
| 14:18.30 | amero | when you start or launch a process, what is normally the scheduling priority it runs with? |
| 14:18.58 | amero | under normal user |
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| 14:19.53 | sarguru | Justin, ? |
| 14:21.25 | mooglenorph | Hello. I use urxvt with xft fonts (mono, size = 10, default with squeeze). I prefer dark backgrounds, but the fonts look jagged and odd with white-on-black. Are there any freetype settings that would make this look good? |
| 14:21.31 | tdrusk | balleyne: If I run it in root it does not list my partitions. |
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| 14:22.13 | jelly | mooglenorph: can you post a screenshot? |
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| 14:23.01 | mooglenorph | jelly: sure. how do I take a screenshot with bare x? I'm not running a desktop environment, just dwm |
| 14:23.08 | balleyne | tdrusk: hmm, not sure then. Bushmills had recommended pmount, I'm not familiar with that tool. Not sure what other options you have with Thunar. =\ |
| 14:23.30 | jelly | mooglenorph: scrot is one tool |
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| 14:23.57 | bint | isn't there an offtopic chan of debian? |
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| 14:24.33 | bint | got it :) |
| 14:24.34 | bint | thx |
| 14:24.34 | balleyne | tdrusk: alternatively, you might be able to run nautilus under XFCE... but 1) not sure you want to do that, you're probably running XFCE and Thunar for a reason; 2) I'm not sure whether all of nautilus' functions work as expected under XFCE? I have used it before, but not extensively... just throwing some other ideas out there, I'm not sure what the best answer is |
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| 14:28.22 | th0r | tdrusk: you can configure a Custom Action in Thunar to use gksudo mount |
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| 14:30.28 | NAS_User_ | I have problems with Webmin on debian, ican't access the server from another pc (Another Pc = Windows 7) |
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| 14:32.34 | wols_ | !webmin |
| 14:32.34 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 14:32.49 | Eval_Sanchez | haha |
| 14:32.56 | Eval_Sanchez | a lame web-based interface for unsafe sys administration |
| 14:32.58 | Eval_Sanchez | very nice |
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| 14:40.26 | twobitsprite | NAS_User_: what problems are you having? |
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| 14:45.36 | totte | I just rebooted a Debian box with 512 MB RAM and the used memory is 500 MB - but it's only running apache2, mysqld, ddclient, irssi and a few other things. Earlier less than half of that memory was used and I don't quite grasp this. Is there a decent guide somewhere that someone would recommend? |
| 14:47.23 | judgen | th0r: You should, but i do not know how. Perhaps asking in the xfce channels might be a better fit for your problem. |
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| 14:48.28 | twobitsprite | totte: where are you seeing the memory use being reported? |
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| 14:50.36 | wols_ | !free ram |
| 14:50.36 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
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| 14:56.35 | twobitsprite | perhaps someone should add this link to that factoid: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2770 |
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| 14:58.23 | twobitsprite | or better yet, this: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
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| 14:59.02 | totte | twobitsprite: free -m |
| 14:59.06 | Bop | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status , why some packages have this on apt-cache and not 500 <debian_repository> = |
| 14:59.07 | Bop | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status , why some packages have this on apt-cache and not 500 <debian_repository> ? |
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| 14:59.46 | wols_ | Bop: cause they aren't in the debian repo anymore? |
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| 15:00.04 | wols_ | Bop: examples. which packages? |
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| 15:00.09 | flores | hi, I am trying to swap esc and Caps, i remember there was a very easy way of doing it, but I am not finding it anymore, would someone help me? |
| 15:00.13 | Bop | wols_, wait |
| 15:00.23 | an0 | When I run apt-get, it hanging while trying to connect to ftp.us.debian.org via IPv6. Can anyone help? |
| 15:00.30 | Bop | wols_, paintown |
| 15:00.38 | flores | I remember it was something like, system -> keyboard -> bla but i do not fid |
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| 15:01.12 | wols_ | Bop: you installed that from some other place. it's not in debian |
| 15:01.13 | an0 | All I have in /etc/network/interfaces is "iface eth0 inet static" followed by my IPv4 static IP information. |
| 15:01.25 | wols_ | !tell an0 about noipv6 |
| 15:01.30 | twobitsprite | totte: did you read what dpkg said? |
| 15:01.31 | Bop | wols_, wait, ill give you other |
| 15:01.35 | an0 | Thanks, let me read. |
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| 15:03.28 | Bop | wols_, what about libdb4.6 ? |
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| 15:04.14 | wols_ | ,versions libdb4.6 |
| 15:04.15 | judd | Package libdb4.6 on i386 -- lenny: 4.6.21-11; squeeze: 4.6.21-16 |
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| 15:04.42 | Bop | hmm its from squeeze , i've upgraded to wheezy |
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| 15:05.45 | Bop | wols_, not in the tree , should be safe to remove , right |
| 15:05.49 | stmaher | hi guys.. how can i find out what the max file size my ext3 system can handle |
| 15:06.09 | stmaher | some places say 16GB to 2TB.. |
| 15:06.12 | stmaher | but nothing solid |
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| 15:07.27 | petemc | stmaher: its on wikipedia |
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| 15:07.45 | petemc | not that wikipedia is authoritive, but it looks right in this case |
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| 15:07.55 | stmaher | petemc Thanks for the reply.. wikipedia says between 16 and 2tb |
| 15:08.05 | stmaher | petemc anyway I can find out definately |
| 15:08.06 | petemc | depending on the block size |
| 15:08.15 | judgen | i am a little confused on the matter. Will i be able to upgrade without a complete pure reinstall from Squeeze to Wheezy when it comes available? |
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| 15:08.26 | petemc | judgen: yes |
| 15:08.31 | stmaher | petemc ah ok.. thanks.. any idea how I can work it out? |
| 15:08.39 | judgen | i know it is several years away, but it is good to be prepared. |
| 15:08.54 | judgen | petemc: thanks |
| 15:09.05 | petemc | stmaher: tune2fs -l |
| 15:09.07 | an0 | wols_: That worked perfectly. Thank you. |
| 15:09.27 | judgen | petemc: Where can i look up versions of software available in debian squeeze? |
| 15:09.36 | petemc | judgen: packages.debian.org |
| 15:09.42 | drhouse123 | can i clean install wheezy - what release for this is need ? |
| 15:10.02 | judgen | drhouse123: Is not wheezy coming out in like 2013 |
| 15:10.07 | stmaher | petemc block size says 4096 |
| 15:10.18 | judgen | Might be better just to use squeeze and add the repos. |
| 15:10.26 | judgen | atleast until stable. |
| 15:10.31 | petemc | stmaher: so max file size is 2tb |
| 15:10.55 | stmaher | petemc thank you very much.. If you dont mind me asking.. how did you work that out? |
| 15:11.02 | stmaher | petemc curious :-) |
| 15:11.09 | petemc | stmaher: its right there on the wee chart |
| 15:11.25 | petemc | 4096 = 4k |
| 15:11.39 | Eval_Sanchez | is it alright if I do "sudo chmod u+x /var/www/" so that I can write a php project and place it there to run it from there? |
| 15:11.41 | drhouse123 | thanks. Linux kernel 3.0 is coming to wheezy repos ? |
| 15:11.59 | stmaher | petemc Dont see a chart on the page.. link please? |
| 15:12.09 | stmaher | petemc DOH i see it |
| 15:12.09 | stmaher | sorry |
| 15:12.11 | stmaher | thank you |
| 15:12.18 | petemc | np |
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| 15:14.20 | drhouse123 | debian-next channel is only for inviting ? |
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| 15:15.25 | lancelot_of | hi there |
| 15:15.53 | lancelot_of | where to find boot messages? Neither dmesg or /var/log/sys.log or kern.log |
| 15:16.21 | drhouse123 | /var/log/ |
| 15:16.55 | lancelot_of | drhouse123, /var/log/boot? nothing there |
| 15:16.56 | drhouse123 | messages |
| 15:17.06 | fbs | lancelot_of: what kind of messages/ |
| 15:17.11 | drhouse123 | /var/log/messages |
| 15:17.42 | lancelot_of | drhouse123, no that is a kind of kernel log, the same as syslog or kern.log |
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| 15:17.52 | lancelot_of | fbs, the messages shown on console at boot time |
| 15:17.59 | fbs | oh |
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| 15:19.30 | fbs | does that get logged? i've never seen it anywhere |
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| 15:21.08 | lancelot_of | fbs, dunno, i hoped yes |
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| 15:22.36 | fbs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:26.39 | DasEi | fbs: you want oview the bootmessages ? dmesg > demesg.txt, then can browse it |
| 15:26.45 | DasEi | to view* |
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| 15:27.32 | twobitsprite | stupid netstat question: why is it when I just run "netstat" I see my ssh connection, but "netstat --inet --all" doesn't show it |
| 15:28.01 | fbs | DasEi: dmesg | less ;). But i think lancelot_of wants the systemV messages |
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| 15:32.18 | cordell | I have a question about the debian 6 official release. The website says that in this release, that the kernel had removed all of the non free firmware. My 2 networking devices eth0 and wlan0 depend of r8169 and iwlagn, respectivally. using the command modinfo, on fedora 15 shows that r8169 and iwlagn kernel modules are both under the GPL. My question is, why are these not included if the driver is under the GPL? |
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| 15:34.23 | nkuttler | !tell cordell about firmware |
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| 15:38.13 | chenthu | anyone knows how to uninstall a "dpkg --force architecture -i (.deb package)" ? |
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| 15:40.07 | chenthu | none active?...i dont see anyone chatting.... |
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| 15:42.35 | jeff_hann | chenthu, what do you want to do? |
| 15:43.08 | jeff_hann | you might want man dpkg |
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| 15:43.35 | chenthu | jeff_hann: i have force installed a i386 .deb package on a amd64 machine....it dint workout so i wanna uninstall it ...how to do that? |
| 15:44.26 | chenthu | jeff_hann: did check man dpkg but i couldnt find any possible option |
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| 15:46.32 | jeff_hann | did you try google? |
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| 15:46.43 | jeff_hann | first hit shows -r as being what you want |
| 15:46.48 | jeff_hann | -r as in remove |
| 15:46.51 | jeff_hann | :) |
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| 15:49.40 | chenthu | jeff_hann: yeah googled and trying all possible solution not working as of yet, so though might get ideas from users here while working out googled solutions and -r, i gave " dpkg -r application name" but not working |
| 15:50.04 | jeff_hann | what is the error message? |
| 15:50.25 | jeff_hann | afair, dpkg -r <.deb location> is the right syntax |
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| 15:51.03 | jeff_hann | just as you did when installing |
| 15:55.05 | chenthu | jeff_hann: u mean the location of the installef file? |
| 15:55.36 | jeff_hann | I mean the location of the .deb file you used when installing |
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| 15:55.40 | wols_ | !tell chenthu about bat |
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| 15:56.46 | chenthu | wols_: ok in a min will pastebin the error... |
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| 15:59.22 | chenthu | wols_ and jeff_hann : give me a few mins.. i am currently instaling ia-32 libs so its not allowing me to access the terminal to install again as i have closed the previous installation terminal...will have to get the command back |
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| 16:00.20 | ayambit | How do I pass an option to module in debian lenny at boot time? |
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| 16:01.22 | wols_ | ayambit: you add it to the kernel commandline. check if there is a setting for that in /etc/default/grub. otherwise there is something in your menu.lst IIRC. |
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| 16:01.54 | ayambit | I tried to create a file in /etc/modprobe.d and put 'options igb max_vfs=7' it, but it does not work. |
| 16:01.57 | ayambit | Hmm. |
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| 16:02.09 | wols_ | ayambit: yes there is # kopt (note the important # there) |
| 16:02.21 | wols_ | ayambit: have you recreated your initramfs? |
| 16:02.40 | wols_ | after you changed that modprobe.d file |
| 16:02.48 | ayambit | wols_: thanks for hint, i'll try now |
| 16:03.01 | chenthu | wols_: and i have solved my wifi and display issue....i just wanted u to know that cause u have been helping me a lot |
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| 16:07.20 | norbert_ | hi, my buddy has a Debian installation and has a filesystem mounted in srv/ and if he tries to right click and umount he gets a bug report pop-up |
| 16:07.37 | norbert_ | and I can unmount it from the console, but I don't want to remote login for that all the time |
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| 16:07.52 | norbert_ | I'm trying to search for a _keyword_ srv in Debian bugs, but is that even possible? |
| 16:08.36 | norbert_ | I switched to Ubuntu a while back after probably 10 years of using Debian (only) |
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| 16:09.16 | norbert_ | because every time a package is old the suggestion is to use testing instead of stable, and then I use testing and get bugs, then it's "great, please file a bug report" |
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| 16:09.35 | norbert_ | Ubuntu is way more userfriendly |
| 16:09.48 | norbert_ | and it's still Debian, so I can use and find the things I want |
| 16:10.03 | norbert_ | obviously I don't work with Unity (I'm currently using xfce) |
| 16:10.14 | jelly | norbert_: and it doesn't pretend to have a ~3 year security support |
| 16:10.58 | jeff_hann | :)) |
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| 16:11.30 | Woet | I have problem with the network configuration of ipv6 in combination with bonding. more details at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=67486 - anyone got a clue? |
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| 16:11.43 | jelly | norbert_: "srv" would not be a good keyword -- it's just a mountpoint, and not the reason why umount via GUI fails |
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| 16:12.32 | chenthu | jelly: what do u mean by " doesn' pretend to have a 3 yr security support"? |
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| 16:15.08 | grandie | getting a startpar: service(s) skipped: dirmngr ...(warning) message is there something I need to deleat or add to my system? |
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| 16:16.20 | jeff_hann | grandie, no |
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| 16:16.45 | grandie | jeff_hann: what is it telling me than? |
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| 16:17.24 | grandie | jeff_hann: do I need to configure something? |
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| 16:18.49 | jeff_hann | grandie, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=53607 |
| 16:18.56 | jeff_hann | and google.com |
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| 16:20.43 | grandie | jeff_hann: thanks, but I tried the sed action and it did not work that is why I came here. |
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| 16:22.08 | jeff_hann | grandie, what does dpkg -l dirmngr say? |
| 16:22.14 | jeff_hann | does it return anything? |
| 16:22.17 | jeff_hann | as installed |
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| 16:24.51 | jelly | chenthu: ubuntu releases only have 6+12 months of security support, and on a somewhat smaller package set. Debian seems to have a ~2 year cycle and 12 months more of security updates |
| 16:24.52 | grandie | jeff_hann: just a second i'll check |
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| 16:26.36 | grandie | jeff_hann: No packages found matching dirmngr. |
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| 16:27.12 | chenthu | jelly: oh ok thanks for the information thats amazing actually ... |
| 16:27.12 | jeff_hann | the forum thread suggested to install dirmngr and see if the error disapperars |
| 16:27.25 | twobitsprite | norbert_: did you have a debian question burried in all that ranting? |
| 16:28.26 | jelly | twobitsprite: it was his first line |
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| 16:28.54 | twobitsprite | ohh there it is... |
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| 16:29.13 | grandie | jeff_hann: I'm off to try, thanks! |
| 16:29.28 | twobitsprite | norbert_: what version of debian? Does it report any error messages? what is he right clicking it in? |
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| 16:29.39 | jelly | frankly I don't know who is able (and willing) to provide support with Gnome (UI) issues |
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| 16:30.14 | twobitsprite | jelly: might be KDE... he didn't say |
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| 16:31.07 | jelly | twobitsprite: I'm assuming defaults |
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| 16:31.16 | jelly | silly, silly Gnome as defaults |
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| 16:31.25 | twobitsprite | jelly: that's a mistake :P |
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| 16:31.50 | jelly | twobitsprite: is it better to assume a nondefault value? How to choose? |
| 16:31.55 | twobitsprite | jelly: ask? |
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| 16:32.42 | tekth | how do you get apt-get to install a package as well as all of its dependencies, instead of just saying you dont have the dependencies installed? |
| 16:32.53 | jelly | twobitsprite: nah, I'll leave it to your expert hands |
| 16:32.53 | Justin | tekth: apt-get install package |
| 16:32.55 | chenthu | paste.debian.org not working |
| 16:33.01 | twobitsprite | jelly: hehe |
| 16:33.02 | jelly | chenthu: paste.debian.net |
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| 16:33.32 | chenthu | sry yeah "paste.debian.net isnt working for me |
| 16:33.49 | ilana | hi. i am installing unstable i386 on amd athlon 64, using the testing installer. i have reached the stage of choosing a kernel and i am not sure what to choose. i am considering either linux-image-3.0.0-1-686-pae or linux-image-686, but not sure either is the correct one. can anyone give me some guidance please? |
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| 16:33.56 | twobitsprite | !sid |
| 16:33.57 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 16:34.00 | jelly | chenthu: wfm! how does it fail to work? |
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| 16:34.11 | jelly | chenthu: paste.ubuntu.com is nice |
| 16:34.27 | tekth | Justin: it just keeps telling me I have unmet dependencies, but wont install them. do manually? |
| 16:34.32 | twobitsprite | ilana: try #debian-next on oftc.net ... they'll probably be able to help you better |
| 16:34.51 | michlemken-1 | tekth, reinstall |
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| 16:34.59 | chenthu | jelly: no idea why it isnt working... i am using pastebin |
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| 16:35.14 | jelly | chenthu: pastebin? |
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| 16:35.22 | Justin | tekth: what did you do to break it like that? |
| 16:35.30 | chenthu | jelly: yeah why not? |
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| 16:35.56 | chenthu | wols_ and jeff_hann : http://pastebin.com/aUaj7VQd |
| 16:36.34 | norbert_ | twobitsprite: he right clicks on the name of that volume and immediately the bug report tool fires up |
| 16:36.46 | jelly | chenthu: you might be hitting this: "Thanks to some spammers you need to provide at least 3 or two linebreaks" |
| 16:36.52 | norbert_ | twobitsprite: right now when he inserts the usb camera, the volume doesn't even show up anymore |
| 16:36.53 | ilana | twobitsprite: thanks. will ask there |
| 16:36.58 | jelly | chenthu: http://paste.debian.net/124978/ |
| 16:37.10 | twobitsprite | norbert_: in what application? nautilus? the kde file browser? something else? |
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| 16:37.27 | norbert_ | nautilus, probably |
| 16:37.33 | norbert_ | on the desktop, default gnome installation |
| 16:37.41 | twobitsprite | norbert_: what version of debian? |
| 16:37.48 | tekth | Justin: I have no idea :( I basically dont know what im doing.. usually use OpenSuse :-/ |
| 16:37.51 | norbert_ | stable |
| 16:38.05 | chenthu | jelly: it says problem loading ..... |
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| 16:38.28 | jelly | well it seems to be local |
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| 16:39.02 | Justin | tekth: you are going to need to pastebin the full message you are getting. |
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| 16:39.39 | chenthu | guys i force installed a i386 deb file to a amd64 system and i got these errors ( http://pastebin.com/aUaj7VQd ) and my app is not working.... how can i remove the app |
| 16:39.41 | tekth | k |
| 16:40.16 | Justin | chenthu: dpkg -P crossplatformui |
| 16:40.24 | grandie | jeff_hann: that did the trick, dirmngr must not have been completely configured and the reinstall worked fine, thanks once again! |
| 16:40.33 | chenthu | Justin: ok will try |
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| 16:41.29 | chenthu | Justin: it says "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process" |
| 16:41.40 | twobitsprite | norbert_: try running "nautilus --no-default-window --gdk-debug=255 --gtk-debug=255 --disable-sound" and see if you can reproduce it like that |
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| 16:42.04 | Justin | chenthu: you running another package manager? |
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| 16:42.19 | jeff_hann | grandie, anytime |
| 16:42.20 | tekth | Justin: http://pastebin.com/3pxNtk09 |
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| 16:43.15 | jelly | chenthu: verify no other instance of dpkg, apt, aptitude, synaptic, update-manager, or other package manager is running |
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| 16:44.24 | Justin | tekth: 1) aide is already installed. 2) what did did you do to your mail system? |
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| 16:45.04 | twobitsprite | norbert_: also, check this out and see if it describes your problem with the drive not being automounted: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576792 |
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| 16:45.40 | afernandez123 | hello i reciently install squeeze kernel 2.6 which kernel can i use to pugrade? |
| 16:45.50 | afernandez123 | upgrade* |
| 16:45.54 | chenthu | Justin: sry yeah i was and i have closed it and run it agian and i get this " http://pastebin.com/KPbAgR6m " |
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| 16:46.30 | jeff_hann | afernandez123, what version of Debian are you on? |
| 16:46.43 | Justin | chenthu: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossplatformui.postrm |
| 16:46.43 | afernandez123 | squeeze not on this machine |
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| 16:47.22 | jelly | afernandez123: upgrade from what to what? |
| 16:47.38 | afernandez123 | hold on ill go to right machine................. |
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| 16:47.58 | chenthu | Justin: what do i have to edit? |
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| 16:48.34 | oracle | hello |
| 16:48.43 | oracle | im with the kernel question |
| 16:48.44 | tekth | Justin: well I tried installing aide using apt-get, it failed to fetch a number of packages (about 10 or so), then I tried using aptitude and it was able to get most bot not all packages. |
| 16:49.04 | oracle | Linux OWNER-PC 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Jun 13 04:13:06 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:49.23 | oracle | may i upgrade to another kernel? |
| 16:49.32 | jelly | oracle: yes. Why would you? |
| 16:49.32 | tekth | Justin: I tried 'which aide' but it couldnt find the binary so i figured it wasnt installed, and therefore tried to install manually via scp the aide-common .deb |
| 16:49.37 | twobitsprite | ,kernels |
| 16:49.38 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 3.0.0-1-686-pae (3.0.0-1); wheezy: 2.6.39-2-686-pae (2.6.39-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-5~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-35); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny3) |
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| 16:49.47 | oracle | jelly, well newer is not better? |
| 16:49.56 | jelly | oracle: no. |
| 16:49.56 | oracle | or when is a right time to upgrade? |
| 16:49.57 | twobitsprite | oracle: looks like 2.6.38-2 is in backports |
| 16:50.01 | Justin | tekth: aide is already installed |
| 16:50.33 | pingveno | I noticed that python-debian changed its debian/rules to use DEB_HOST_ARCH instead of DEB_BUILD_ARCH. Is there a reason for that? |
| 16:50.40 | oracle | so squeeze would not work properly on 3.0? |
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| 16:50.55 | jelly | oracle: when something fails to work with the current kernel, or for security reasons, or when there's a new debian release that automatically comes with a newer kernel |
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| 16:51.11 | oracle | ok ...thanks jelly |
| 16:51.16 | chenthu | Justin: do i have to ust run " edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossplatformui.postrm " on a terminal? |
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| 16:51.24 | twobitsprite | oracle: you could probably run squeeze on 3.0, but you would have to build the kernel yourself and it wouldn't be supported |
| 16:51.35 | Justin | chenthu: you're a bit over your head here |
| 16:51.46 | Justin | chenthu: this is why you don't force things |
| 16:51.51 | oracle | twobitsprite, no thanks im not that savy |
| 16:52.02 | tekth | Justin: I will take a deeper look into whats going on ty |
| 16:52.16 | oracle | is easy to upgrade to next release like would i be able to keep my home? |
| 16:52.21 | chenthu | Justin: yeah.. now i reallize ... ia ctually got this from the forums to force install |
| 16:52.55 | norbert_ | twobitsprite: will ask him to do that |
| 16:53.04 | twobitsprite | oracle: yes, upgrades are usually pretty smooth, and only programs will be upgrade... your home directory any configurations will stay |
| 16:53.44 | oracle | thanksso i will go ahead and enjoy my squeeze oh when do i do apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 16:53.58 | twobitsprite | norbert_: also, ffr, just have your friend come in here so we can do some realtime troubleshooting instead of operating on your guesses about what he's using and no way to confirm things like error messages, etc |
| 16:54.09 | tekth | I realize this might be beyond the scope of this channel, but im trying to intitialize aide and get "Couldn't open file /var/lib/aide/please-dont-call-aide-without-parameters/aide.db.new for writing" |
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| 16:54.21 | twobitsprite | oracle: when migrating to the new release when it comes out |
| 16:54.31 | Justin | tekth: you tried to initialize it wrong |
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| 16:54.41 | twobitsprite | oracle: or to grab new security patches for the packages you have |
| 16:54.41 | Justin | tekth: is there a /usr/share/doc/aide/README.Debian ? |
| 16:54.47 | norbert_ | twobitsprite: I can confirm everything, I'm using vnc and I'm in his pc |
| 16:54.48 | oracle | ok so for now only apt-get update and apt-get upgrade right? |
| 16:55.24 | tekth | Justin: no just changelog, copyright, and NEWS |
| 16:55.24 | twobitsprite | oracle: upgrade and dist-upgrade will usually do the same thing when you're on the same release |
| 16:55.54 | oracle | oh ok how do i know hen there is security upgrades i need to install? |
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| 16:56.27 | twobitsprite | oracle: there will be updated packages when you run "apt-get upgrade", or you can use someting like symantic to check for updates |
| 16:56.29 | Justin | tekth: oh, it's in /usr/share/doc/aide-common |
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| 16:57.00 | oracle | thank yopu very much twobitsprite you have a lot ofpatience |
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| 16:57.04 | oracle | i will go now bye |
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| 16:57.36 | tekth | Justin: yes I have that |
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| 17:01.40 | cj101 | hi, ive now got gnome and kde installed and my system booting to shell so i have to start x before i can use it which is what i want. using startx, gnome starts, but how do i start kde instead when ever i want to? |
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| 17:02.38 | tekth | im just going to purge aide and start over i guess |
| 17:02.43 | wols_ | chenthu: what is in that postrm script? |
| 17:02.59 | pingveno | cj101: session manager? |
| 17:03.21 | cj101 | pingveno, what command is to do that? |
| 17:03.34 | wols_ | pingveno: don't you mean a display manager? and haven't you seen how he doesn't want one? |
| 17:03.35 | pingveno | Like, install kdm/gdm/slim |
| 17:03.58 | wols_ | cj101: what script/binary starts kde? "startkde"? |
| 17:04.06 | bolong7 | cj101: you can select default session with this command : update-alternetives --config x-session-manager |
| 17:04.16 | cj101 | that doesnt work, says it cant connect to the x server |
| 17:04.20 | bolong7 | sorry update-alternatives |
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| 17:04.30 | pingveno | wols_: startkde only work when you already have X started. |
| 17:04.41 | cj101 | ah ok then |
| 17:04.55 | cj101 | thanks |
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| 17:05.17 | pingveno | Oh, man, session manager. |
| 17:05.18 | chenthu | wols_: http://pastebin.com/aUaj7VQd ..... and i have just edited the /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossplatformui.postrm file and used "dpkg purge and it got purged as devil in the official forum said.... and now i have to delete the folders manually.... so thats it right? |
| 17:05.25 | pingveno | kicks self for being a n00b |
| 17:05.31 | afernandez123 | twobitsprite: thanks |
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| 17:06.40 | wols_ | chenthu: please reread what I asked |
| 17:06.47 | wols_ | pingveno: I know that |
| 17:07.11 | wols_ | cj101: echo "startkde&" ~/.xinitrc && startx |
| 17:07.17 | cj101 | wow, so now i have gnome on one screen and kde on another and i can swap betewwn the 2 :) |
| 17:07.25 | chenthu | wols_: the file got purged... so i cant post it now... may be i will re install and post it and purge it again? |
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| 17:08.22 | wols_ | chenthu: no use. but first following advice frm a forum which is simply utterly braindead: installing a different arch package from a different distro by force, and then trusting them again when messing with dpkg. well it's your system. good luck |
| 17:08.38 | devil_ | chenthu: why would you install it again after what happened? its an ubuntu package |
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| 17:09.43 | chenthu | devil_: i am not installing it again... because wols_ wanted to see the postrm script i said i will install...but i am not going to now |
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| 17:10.21 | devil_ | chenthu: its purged anyways |
| 17:10.40 | complete | Good Evening! Do you guys encrypt your swap partitions? |
| 17:11.03 | chenthu | wols_: i know thats complaetely messed up but, but not forrum i used advice of devil_ fro the official channel and now he is here too.. |
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| 17:12.13 | devil_ | wols_: i didnt tell him to force architecture an ubuntu package. i just got him out of his mess with a dirty hack |
| 17:12.42 | wols_ | devil_: whoever wrote on that forum he mentioned. those apparently told him to install that shit |
| 17:12.45 | wols_ | and how |
| 17:13.17 | devil_ | wols_: yeah, thats braindead. |
| 17:13.32 | devil_ | i just wanted to make clear, it was not me :) |
| 17:13.35 | twobitsprite | !tell complete about anyone |
| 17:13.46 | devil_ | the postrm hack is bad enough for my karma :P |
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| 17:16.01 | chenthu | wols_: yeah devil_ helped me..... devil_: i said forum so he misuderstood..... i used form advice for force install but later i used ur advice to come out of mess... but he though i used form advice to come out of the mess too |
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| 17:16.30 | chenthu | wols_ and devil_ : thank you very much for helping me come out of this mess |
| 17:16.30 | norbert_ | twobitsprite: I fixed the problem; thanks for giving some pointers (the problem was related to a symbolic link to a directory that was temporarily unavailable due to certain encrypted disks not being activated) |
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| 17:16.44 | devil_ | chenthu: IRC is to be preferred. if bad advice is given here, someone will speak up |
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| 17:17.22 | dadsofamerica | can any one help me with seting my lan to multicast please |
| 17:17.23 | chenthu | devil_: yeah but i ma forced to go to forum when people dont respond... but all is well now |
| 17:18.21 | dadsofamerica | any one help me |
| 17:19.35 | dadsofamerica | lpease sopme one help me with my issue i dont even know where to start looking for answers |
| 17:20.07 | twobitsprite | !patience |
| 17:20.07 | dpkg | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. |
| 17:20.42 | dadsofamerica | i was just asking i dont have a adituid i was just asking if any one knew where i could at leats look |
| 17:20.50 | chenthu | wols_: thi package is the aplication for my 3G USB stick , cause right now my speed is less because of this.....as i can got 3.1 mbs through 3g on windows as it has a application and without application on linux i just get 1x speed and so i wanted to install the app and they have provided me with this deb file for ubuntu, since its a deb file i thought i could use it on dbian too... i have... |
| 17:20.51 | chenthu | ...notified them waiting for their response but i am not sure whats gonna happen |
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| 17:21.18 | twobitsprite | dadsofamerica: well, begging "someone please help me" over and over again isn't helpful. State your problem or question and if anyone know how to help they will |
| 17:21.41 | wols_ | chenthu: unpack the .deb in a directory and look what's inside and what it does. |
| 17:21.42 | dadsofamerica | i did state my problem friend |
| 17:21.44 | dadsofamerica | read |
| 17:22.40 | twobitsprite | dadsofamerica: yes, and then you followed up with "anyone help me" and then again with "please someone help me" not more than a minute later... I'm not trying to lecture you, just letting you know that we saw it the first time |
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| 17:23.41 | chenthu | wols_: yeah unpackd ..just one min let e have my dinner if u dont mind |
| 17:23.59 | twobitsprite | dadsofamerica: have you see this? http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Multicast-HOWTO.html |
| 17:24.20 | wols_ | tho, running a i386 binary in amd64 poses challenges |
| 17:25.07 | dadsofamerica | how do i chat in red |
| 17:25.10 | dadsofamerica | tyty |
| 17:25.21 | twobitsprite | dadsofamerica: it just shows up in read when someone says your name |
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| 17:26.25 | dadsofamerica | ow ic |
| 17:28.28 | dadsofamerica | so multicasting is set when i install debian right? i have to add it |
| 17:28.31 | dadsofamerica | ? |
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| 17:31.29 | wols_ | dadsofamerica: across what domain/area do you want to multicast? |
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| 17:32.35 | dadsofamerica | by domain u mean like worgroup mshome? |
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| 17:33.29 | jelly | dadsofamerica: do you know what "multicasting" is and how it's done? What are you really trying to achieve? |
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| 17:34.08 | dadsofamerica | no i am new to useing dabian linux period im trying to get my wlan and lan working first my ethernet |
| 17:34.44 | wols_ | dadsofamerica: that's not what multicast is for at all |
| 17:34.44 | chrissbx | Hi. For some time now, after waking my laptop from sleep, it would be in a state that beeps when I type forward at the end of a line in the shell or similar (meaning, beep events really make it into a beep), |
| 17:34.56 | chrissbx | as opposed to being silent, as it is when alsa-utils are restarted. |
| 17:35.03 | wols_ | dadsofamerica: lspci -nn |grep -i net |
| 17:35.25 | chrissbx | I'm now always running /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart after waking from sleep, even kinda got the hang of it, but it's still a bit of a pain. |
| 17:35.29 | dadsofamerica | whats that do? |
| 17:35.43 | chrissbx | I've tried hooking the restart into a apm script to no avail. Any help appreciated. |
| 17:36.05 | chrissbx | (Also, I'd like to know why this happens at all, and whether you're seeing it too.) |
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| 17:36.26 | wols_ | chrissbx: man pm-suspend I think mentions the directories it runs scripts from when suspending and waking |
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| 17:36.47 | chrissbx | wols_: yes, and I think it even *does* run my script, but it does not help when run from there. |
| 17:36.50 | wols_ | chrissbx: suspend/hibernation and acpi issues are very different for each laptop out there |
| 17:37.00 | chrissbx | Maybe the alsa stuff is being disabled *after* my wakeup script is run. |
| 17:37.14 | wols_ | then it runs it wrongly. debug your script: logging, echo on screen, etc |
| 17:37.29 | chrissbx | IIRC I did that, no errors |
| 17:37.41 | dadsofamerica | what soea multicasting do? |
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| 17:38.24 | chrissbx | But I'm really amazed that for several months of running squeeze I never saw that issue, now suddenly I do. |
| 17:38.42 | chrissbx | I guess there's no such thing as a stable system after all ;) |
| 17:38.43 | wols_ | dadsofamerica: if you had read the link that twobitsprite helpfully provided, you knew. but you ignored him (and questions from us too). So please tell me why we should bother trying to help you when you ignore the answers and the tries to help you? |
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| 17:39.13 | dadsofamerica | im ,looking at the websit now i didnt ignore i dont know what to do |
| 17:39.31 | TheWarden | Hi |
| 17:39.44 | dadsofamerica | im reading the web site but its not makeing any since to me |
| 17:39.47 | dadsofamerica | ME = NEB |
| 17:39.51 | dadsofamerica | nub |
| 17:39.53 | dadsofamerica | srry cap |
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| 17:40.07 | wols_ | dadsofamerica: cause multicast is not helping in getting your wlan and lan to work |
| 17:40.22 | wols_ | dadsofamerica: start by stating your actual problem and what you've tried so far to fix it |
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| 17:40.29 | dadsofamerica | well then i dont knwop what to do |
| 17:40.31 | chrissbx | Also, it's interesting that alsa is being reinitialized just by running any alsa-using program, it doesn't have to be the init.. restart |
| 17:40.35 | wols_ | and how it didn't work (ie. what errors it produced) |
| 17:40.37 | docgnome | anyone know if there is a winepulse package for debian? |
| 17:40.47 | wols_ | !tell docgnome about search |
| 17:40.47 | dadsofamerica | i says it shows it sending i ping everthings fine |
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| 17:41.14 | docgnome | wols_: i meant an unofficial one. it's not in the canonical repos |
| 17:41.15 | chenthu | wols_: i have extracted it to a folder... what should i be looking for ? |
| 17:41.16 | TheWarden | I have a Debian box setup with the default NIC configuration of http://pastebin.com/eXjKT7i8. I want it to use DHCP however for some reason the system is getting the wrong IP address (192.168.0.17) assigned when a reservation was setup to give it 192.168.0.198. How can I fix this or am I forced to statically assign an IP address? |
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| 17:41.54 | jelly | docgnome: heh, there really is no uptodate _wine_ at all in Debian at present, let alone support for Pulseaudio |
| 17:41.56 | wols_ | chenthu: docs, manpages, config files. what kinds of binaries there are. in short: what does it actually do |
| 17:41.58 | dadsofamerica | it says my dhcp is off or not working |
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| 17:42.25 | wols_ | TheWarden: depends how you reserved it and how your system requests the DHCP lease |
| 17:42.52 | docgnome | jelly: :-\ my sound gets all screwed up when i run spotify in wine. wine then becomes the only thing that can make sound until i reboot. for a while i could restart pulse and fix it but not anymore |
| 17:43.03 | dadsofamerica | restartr beback |
| 17:43.10 | TheWarden | wols_: Well I'm using a Netgear WNDR3700 to reserve the IP address setting the IP address to reserve and the MAC address of the system I'm talking about. I verified that the MAC address matches. |
| 17:43.22 | jelly | docgnome: do you have ~/.asoundrc configured to make alsa apps use pulse by default? |
| 17:43.22 | wols_ | dadsofamerica: dhcp not working but ping working, that is a contradiction. what debian version do you run (uname -a) and how did you configure your network? |
| 17:43.45 | jelly | dpkg, tell docgnome about list alsa users |
| 17:43.57 | docgnome | jelly: I... don't know. thanks I'll look into it |
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| 17:44.22 | wols_ | TheWarden: sounds like a router problem to me. you could sniff the traffic maybe to see what is exchanged |
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| 17:45.43 | TheWarden | wols_: Oh great.... sigh |
| 17:46.28 | twobitsprite | docgnome: use the winehq repo... it's not an official debian repo, and won't technically be supported in here... but at least you'll have the latest packages and you can get support in #winehq |
| 17:47.04 | docgnome | twobitsprite: okeydokey |
| 17:47.54 | twobitsprite | docgnome: http://www.winehq.org/download/ |
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| 17:48.19 | TheWarden | well I have another question, how does one do a NIC release/renew on Debian? I've tried doing a "sudo ifdown -a" and then a "sudo ifup -a" but it never seems to affect my primary NIC eth0 just the loop back. |
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| 17:48.59 | chenthu | wols_: Its actually a UI to run my 3G data stick, its like a dialer.... there are four folders " Debian, etc, lib, usr" when i extracted it |
| 17:49.01 | dondelelcaro | TheWarden: ifdown fooiface; ifup fooiface; |
| 17:49.09 | docgnome | oooh yeah... |
| 17:49.20 | docgnome | twobitsprite: i saw that before but didn't do it cause there isn't a repo |
| 17:49.28 | docgnome | which makes it kind of a pain to deal with |
| 17:49.44 | tekth | is there a special way to initialize an aide db in debian other than aide -i ? |
| 17:49.53 | twobitsprite | docgnome: ahh, right... yeah, I run ubuntu at home and they have a repo for that... but yeah, you have to deal with the .debs for debian. |
| 17:50.01 | wols_ | TheWarden: are you using network manager or wicd instead? |
| 17:50.05 | jelly | docgnome: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Advanced_ALSA_Configuration ... I'm not sure if it's going to make any difference, but see if putting the contents of "File: /etc/asound.conf" there on in your user ~/.asoundrc make any difference |
| 17:50.05 | twobitsprite | docgnome: either way, it's the easiest way to get newer wine on your debian system |
| 17:50.40 | TheWarden | dondelelcaro: okay I've tried that, replacing the fooiface with the NIC name in my case "eth0" but it says no configuration found. |
| 17:50.58 | TheWarden | wols_: I believe since I have it set to default I'm using "NetworkManager". |
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| 17:51.02 | chenthu | wols_: this is the postrm script of the .deb file .... http://pastebin.com/07jw0LNn |
| 17:51.38 | TheWarden | btw, when I mean release/renew I mean how to do this from the command line.... not sure how to do it in the GUI either though. |
| 17:51.50 | docgnome | jelly: yeah. already got it that way. |
| 17:52.04 | manchot | when I do ls , I received this error: cannot access... No such file or director |
| 17:52.14 | manchot | but the file name is shown, though the file is not there. |
| 17:52.26 | manchot | the same happens when I do du -h |
| 17:53.03 | jelly | manchot: pastebin the COMPLETE command and its output |
| 17:53.28 | manchot | and file properties become "-????????? ? ? ? ?" no permissions or other information |
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| 17:55.50 | manchot | http://paste.debian.net/124985/ |
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| 17:56.12 | manchot | here you go. some file names are garbled, which is OK. But look at the file permissions. |
| 17:56.31 | manchot | I recall having deleted these files, but they shows up when I do ls |
| 17:56.42 | manchot | and reports missing when I do ls -al |
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| 17:57.36 | Tigerboy | i think libasound has 2 different versions in related packages -- in testing |
| 17:57.37 | chenthu | jelly : any idea how to build a amd64 .deb file from the extracted contents of i386 .deb file.... |
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| 18:00.03 | simonlnu | manchot: you're having fs issues. consider do a fsck. |
| 18:00.34 | manchot | simonlnu, trying |
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| 18:00.51 | simonlnu | don't try, do. unmount it, fsck |
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| 18:01.50 | manchot | simonlnu, unmounted. fsck shows 'clean'. |
| 18:01.59 | manchot | simonlnu, shall I do a 'force' check? |
| 18:02.07 | simonlnu | yes |
| 18:02.09 | manchot | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.25 | manchot | ok. thank you . |
| 18:02.57 | simonlnu | -y -f (-v if you want), -y to say yes to questions |
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| 18:08.53 | chenthu | new to debian and on the whole linux , can someone tell me whats a port and whats a back-port |
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| 18:09.15 | simonlnu | !port |
| 18:09.15 | dpkg | from memory, port is To port something, you translate the code for a program from one platform to another. You could port a program you wrote on a PC over to a Macintosh, for example. Port, or for TCP and UDP port numbers, see the IANA's list at http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/port-numbers |
| 18:09.20 | simonlnu | !backport |
| 18:09.20 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>, <volatile>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 18:09.44 | chenthu | simonlnu: thank u |
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| 18:10.33 | simonlnu | you're welcome |
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| 18:20.41 | blueoyster | i'm a windows admin with a box running debian (hosting openupload) with a full hard disk |
| 18:20.50 | blueoyster | how can i find where all the space has gone on the disk? |
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| 18:21.22 | Devastator-work | df -h |
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| 18:21.43 | blueoyster | it shows /dev/sda1 is full |
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| 18:22.02 | blueoyster | i can't cd to that, im guessing it's a device |
| 18:22.12 | blueoyster | can i get details for sda1 only? |
| 18:22.18 | simonlnu | du -sk /some/dir |
| 18:22.24 | Devastator-work | what's the mount point? |
| 18:22.33 | simonlnu | see where sda1 is mounted and check that out |
| 18:22.45 | simonlnu | `mount' will tell you |
| 18:22.58 | blueoyster | mount point is / |
| 18:23.08 | Devastator-work | so du -sk / |
| 18:23.21 | simonlnu | and partition setup? everything on / ? |
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| 18:24.04 | blueoyster | with du -sk / i get some "cannot access" errors for subfolders then just a number / |
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| 18:24.28 | simonlnu | you could do apt-get clean then check /var/log /var/cache /var/lib and /tmp . probably a good idea to run du as root |
| 18:24.58 | simonlnu | might as well also check /var/tmp |
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| 18:25.01 | simonlnu | too |
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| 18:25.37 | blueoyster | what is clean? |
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| 18:26.03 | Devastator-work | it deletes downloaded debs from upgrades |
| 18:26.30 | jelly-home | blueoyster: 1) use -x with du to make it only traverse that one filesystem and not descend further mountpoints 2) be root when doing du / |
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| 18:28.16 | blueoyster | so... "sudo du -xsk /" |
| 18:28.20 | simonlnu | yes forgot the -x. man apt-get - clean cleans out the cached .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 18:28.47 | blueoyster | system temp files, or? |
| 18:28.48 | jelly-home | blueoyster: and skip -s. something like du -kcx / |sort -n |tail -20 would show top 20 directories by size |
| 18:28.51 | blueoyster | not sure what a .deb is |
| 18:28.59 | simonlnu | (otherwise you're waiting for a while, too) |
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| 18:29.25 | simonlnu | you use debian and you don't know what a .deb file is? |
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| 18:29.48 | simonlnu | !.deb |
| 18:29.48 | dpkg | Debian .deb packages are a special form of <ar> archive which can be unpacked with "ar x pkg.deb". Inside the file control.tar.gz are conffiles, installation scripts, and a file "control" which contains the information shown with "apt-cache show pkg". Dependencies can be changed by editing this file. Install the dpkg-dev package and read "man 5 deb" for more details. A better plan is to see <package recompile> <source package>. |
| 18:30.41 | jelly-home | simonlnu: did you miss the "<blueoyster> i'm a windows admin with a box running debian" bit |
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| 18:30.52 | blueoyster | "use debian" is a strong way to say "got handed an app" |
| 18:31.12 | simonlnu | no, i didn't. |
| 18:31.20 | blueoyster | i'm an ultranoob |
| 18:31.34 | jason404 | I am following these instructions: |
| 18:31.35 | jason404 | http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Ajaxterm |
| 18:31.51 | jason404 | But when I restart Apache, I get this error: |
| 18:31.57 | simonlnu | windows admin doesn't mean he's a newbie with unix. maybe that's his/her job ftm |
| 18:32.07 | jelly-home | of only sysadmins were only given systems they set up themselves, properly, and not completely unknown black boxes configured and unmanaged poorly by vendors or that guy who left last month |
| 18:32.09 | simonlnu | ok |
| 18:32.11 | jason404 | Syntax error on line 18 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: |
| 18:32.11 | jason404 | Invalid command 'SSLEngine', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
| 18:32.11 | jason404 | Action 'restart' failed. |
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| 18:32.47 | jelly-home | jason404: ssl module is not enabled. |
| 18:32.51 | jason404 | I am using squeeze, so has SSLEngine been changed or renamed or something? |
| 18:32.59 | blueoyster | sudo <blah> not the format for root? |
| 18:33.00 | jason404 | oh |
| 18:33.03 | simonlnu | jason404: 1) don't paste here, you'll get kicked by the bot 2) a2enmod mod_ssl (or whatever it's called) |
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| 18:33.36 | blueoyster | jelly-home, i can see you know "the pain" |
| 18:33.38 | jason404 | simonlnu: the instructions on that page say run - a2enmod proxy proxy_http |
| 18:33.50 | simonlnu | yes, and? |
| 18:33.53 | jelly-home | blueoyster: it's a universal constant! |
| 18:34.02 | jason404 | I thought that enabled ssl, but obviously not |
| 18:34.15 | simonlnu | uh, does it look like it does? |
| 18:34.30 | jason404 | on hiindsight, no |
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| 18:35.50 | blueoyster | su -c "du kcx |sort -n |trail -20" this worked |
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| 18:36.49 | jelly-home | trails off on a tangent |
| 18:37.42 | simonlnu | tail not trail |
| 18:38.01 | blueoyster | oh hah, yeah i used tail just typo'd here |
| 18:38.44 | jason404 | I need to make an apache.pem file now. I plan to buy a proper SSL cert some time soon. In the mean time, can I just copy and rename the same self-made .pem file from my znc bouncer? |
| 18:38.51 | blueoyster | any way to put it in human format after the sort and tail is done? |
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| 18:40.08 | phorce1 | how does one disconnect a user who logged in via ssh then lost their connection? Still showing in s 'who' as connected. |
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| 18:40.54 | jason404 | simonlnu? |
| 18:41.10 | simonlnu | no. common name won't match. |
| 18:41.16 | ansgar | blueoyster: du -h | sort -h |
| 18:41.28 | jason404 | simonlnu: what is the comon name? |
| 18:41.32 | phorce1 | tried /etc/init.d/ssh stop then start and that was a fail |
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| 18:42.00 | blueoyster | ansgar, sort does have h |
| 18:42.04 | blueoyster | doesn't* |
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| 18:42.16 | jason404 | simonlnu: will this common name match when I get a ca cert? |
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| 18:42.33 | jelly-home | blueoyster: be wary of random nonsense posing as advice |
| 18:42.56 | blueoyster | lol |
| 18:43.00 | jelly-home | also be wary of different versions of tools with different available parameters |
| 18:43.12 | jelly-home | -h was added to sort rather recently |
| 18:43.17 | blueoyster | ahh |
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| 18:43.37 | ansgar | blueoyster: Still at Lenny? Squeeze already seems to have -h for sort. |
| 18:43.54 | jelly-home | lenny = debian 5, squeeze = 6 |
| 18:44.24 | blueoyster | i'm going to have to answer that with "uuhhhhh" |
| 18:44.38 | blueoyster | no clue |
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| 18:47.03 | jelly-home | cat /etc/debian_release would show the version of the OS |
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| 18:47.21 | jelly-home | er |
| 18:47.31 | jelly-home | !version |
| 18:47.31 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 18:47.37 | jelly-home | my bad |
| 18:48.12 | dadsofamerica | i just installed debian on my asus machine it didnt autoconfig the network it said dhcp faild any one help im know booted in debian |
| 18:48.33 | blueoyster | uname -r gives "2.6.26-2-686" |
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| 18:49.07 | pbase | I added a few (5-6) locations in the gnome clock/weather applet. As a result, it is going down the screen height without any scroll option.. What files do I edit to make the fonts smaller and add a scroll bar? http://imagebin.org/166241 . I did the googling but could not find links. Most links tell how to edit locations, time and custom colors. |
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| 18:49.17 | blueoyster | dadsofamerica, when you type "ifconfig" do you have interfaces like eth0? |
| 18:49.20 | jason404 | simonlnu: ijust copying it over and renaming seems to have worked |
| 18:49.51 | jason404 | I'm crossing you off the list of trusted debian experts |
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| 18:50.30 | dadsofamerica | lo |
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| 18:51.48 | dadsofamerica | blueoyster it brings up the lo config |
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| 18:52.57 | blueoyster | dadsofamerica, sorry im a newbie but you should be seeing interfaces when you do that - are you sure you have the drivers installed? |
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| 18:54.55 | chenthu | do i have to get the flash player only through website or is there a way through apt-get ? |
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| 18:55.32 | zykotick9 | chenthu, if you add the "contrib" repo you can install it through apt-get/aptitude -- flashplugin-nonfree I believe |
| 18:55.37 | pbase | chenthu: have u tried gnash? |
| 18:55.49 | negge | I thought it was in non-free |
| 18:55.59 | zykotick9 | negge, it's actually contrib |
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| 18:56.55 | ardian | Hi my usb isn't mounting |
| 18:56.57 | ardian | Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: |
| 18:56.57 | ardian | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, |
| 18:56.57 | ardian | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.57 | ardian | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.57 | ardian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:57.17 | ardian | I am sorry didn't know I had that much lines |
| 18:57.22 | ardian | How should I fix it |
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| 18:57.36 | twobitsprite | !tell ardian about paste |
| 18:57.50 | pbase | ardian simply use mount for the pendrive |
| 18:57.50 | ardian | twobitsprite, I know = ) |
| 18:57.57 | twobitsprite | ardian: ok :) |
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| 18:58.18 | ardian | pbase, could you give me the command please ? |
| 18:58.27 | chenthu | zykotick9: ok thank you |
| 18:58.33 | negge | zykotick9: okay |
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| 18:59.25 | simonlnu | jason404: see if i care |
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| 18:59.45 | pbase | ardian: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/pendrive |
| 18:59.55 | simonlnu | one less person to nag me for things ;) |
| 18:59.59 | jason404 | simonlnu: well it's not working actually |
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| 19:00.27 | pbase | ardian: mount /dev/sdb1 /media/pendrive |
| 19:00.43 | ardian | thank you pbase |
| 19:00.55 | pbase | ardian: you will have to create a folder in media first |
| 19:01.11 | ardian | pbase, yes |
| 19:01.26 | chenthu | why does a i386 .deb file not work on amd64 system?.....what are the specific changes?... and how ro recompile it so that it can work.... |
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| 19:02.11 | simonlnu | (thing is, is i do care *sigh*) |
| 19:02.28 | chenthu | pbase: whats gnash? |
| 19:02.58 | zykotick9 | chenthu, in the future it won't be an issue. But for now, you can try installing ia32-libs then using "dpkg -i --force-architecture foo.deb" and hope that it works. Best of luck. |
| 19:02.58 | jelly-home | chenthu: your package does multiple things. One of the things it does is build a kernel driver module from source, that's not going to fly well if they haven't even tested doing that on amd64 |
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| 19:03.11 | pbase | flash player eqv by osf |
| 19:03.29 | jelly-home | zykotick9: he's already tried --force-architecture a couple hours ago with... interesting results |
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| 19:03.54 | jelly-home | chenthu: contact the vendor and ask for an amd64 build |
| 19:03.59 | zykotick9 | chenthu, jelly-home sorry I was just replying to the last message, haven't been following the issue. My bad. |
| 19:04.01 | chenthu | zykotick9: i isnatlled ia32-libs and then i tried to install it but still doint work |
| 19:04.07 | pbase | chenthu: http://www.gnu.org/s/gnash/ |
| 19:04.53 | chenthu | jelly-home: if thats the case then can i just extract or obtain the source from the driver and recompile it for amd64? |
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| 19:05.17 | chenthu | jelly-home: i did but it wil have to take time... i dint wanna wait |
| 19:05.26 | jelly-home | chenthu: that seems possible and would work around that particular problem with the package |
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| 19:05.44 | dadsofamerica | ok i ran ifconfig and got back im eth0 info what next? |
| 19:05.47 | TheWarden | I have a Debian box setup with the default NIC configuration of http://pastebin.com/eXjKT7i8. When I tried to do "sudo idown eth0" I get "ifdown: interface eth0 is not configured". I ran ifconfig and that is my primary NIC name. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 19:06.34 | chenthu | pbase: but does it have browser support...? |
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| 19:07.01 | pbase | chenthu: works fine with epiphany |
| 19:07.09 | dadsofamerica | i cant get my eth0 to connect to internet can some one help me? |
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| 19:07.39 | zykotick9 | dadsofamerica, "dhclient eth0" perhaps? |
| 19:07.45 | dadsofamerica | yes |
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| 19:07.58 | TheWarden | ops I mean "ifdown" not "idown". |
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| 19:08.31 | dadsofamerica | zykotick9. yes |
| 19:08.32 | Amnesia | 'versions rxvt-unicode |
| 19:08.35 | Amnesia | versions rxvt-unicode |
| 19:08.39 | Amnesia | `versions rxvt-unicode |
| 19:08.45 | Amnesia | !versions rxvt-unicode |
| 19:08.52 | dadsofamerica | me? |
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| 19:09.04 | zykotick9 | TheWarden, you have your eth0 line commented out? |
| 19:09.14 | zykotick9 | ,version rxvt-unicode |
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| 19:10.01 | dadsofamerica | i cant get my dchp to config any one offer there help please |
| 19:10.07 | Iridos | judd, versions rxvt-unicode |
| 19:10.07 | judd | Package rxvt-unicode on i386 -- lenny: 9.05-1+lenny1; squeeze: 9.07-2+b1; sid: 9.12-1; wheezy: 9.12-1 |
| 19:10.10 | dadsofamerica | and ty |
| 19:10.12 | jelly-home | Amnesia: do you suffer from long-term memory loss? |
| 19:10.27 | pbase | dadsofamerica: whats the result of lspci (the ethernet controller) |
| 19:10.34 | Amnesia | jelly-home: hm no short-term memory loss:) |
| 19:11.03 | TheWarden | zykotick9: ahh okay so to association a name I need to have "iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
| 19:11.05 | Iridos | and you haven't tried $%&?:;, and . |
| 19:11.12 | Amnesia | I need 256 colors, and it seems there it isn't support in squeeze by default:/ |
| 19:11.31 | dadsofamerica | pbase: how i run command im in terminal any thing else i put? |
| 19:11.34 | dadsofamerica | im new |
| 19:11.37 | ParkerR | Amnesia, it is probably your graphics chip |
| 19:11.39 | zykotick9 | TheWarden, looks correct |
| 19:11.50 | TheWarden | zykotick9: okay, thanks. |
| 19:11.52 | dadsofamerica | ok i comes back with all my moutherboard specs |
| 19:12.02 | Woet | moutherboard |
| 19:12.05 | wessly | jgiljhmnhkh |
| 19:12.06 | Woet | where can i buy those |
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| 19:12.27 | babilen | ,versions rxvt-unicode-256color |
| 19:12.28 | judd | Package rxvt-unicode-256color on i386 -- sid: 9.12-1; wheezy: 9.12-1 |
| 19:12.33 | babilen | Amnesia: ^^^^ |
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| 19:12.47 | lenswipe | hey folks |
| 19:12.53 | dadsofamerica | pbase what is it you neew from it it says alot |
| 19:12.53 | Amnesia | babilen: I'm running squeeze |
| 19:12.55 | FIReun | strange, I dd the 6.01 standard image to a flash drive and it boots fine, I dd a desktop image to a larger drive and it says "missing operating system" and wont boot. wth? |
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| 19:12.56 | jelly-home | ParkerR: that is complete nonsense! |
| 19:12.58 | babilen | Amnesia: You could try to backport it manually -- /msg dpkg ssb |
| 19:13.01 | ParkerR | Woet, and they need to be washed out with soap when they get dirty XD |
| 19:13.03 | Tigerboy | dadsofamerica: alt-f2 to get a terminal then you can type su <enter> to go into super user mode and then enter commands. |
| 19:13.04 | pbase | pbase: check the pm |
| 19:13.11 | pbase | dadsofamerica: check the pm |
| 19:13.18 | wols | FIReun: not all images are hybrid images |
| 19:13.32 | Amnesia | babilen: ssb? |
| 19:13.35 | FIReun | wols: I got the usb hd image specifically |
| 19:13.45 | babilen | !tell Amnesia -about ssb |
| 19:14.00 | dadsofamerica | p base: whars pm? |
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| 19:14.08 | aidalgol | How do I test my game controller configuration? I have an Xbox 360 gamepad plugged in, and I have installed xserver-xorg-input-joystick. ...but I don't know how to tell whether it's working. |
| 19:14.09 | FIReun | wols: so far I've only found hd images (non cd/dvd) from debian and archlinux |
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| 19:14.35 | babilen | Amnesia: You can send our bot (dpkg) messages and it will reply with helpful answers. Other <factoids> are denoted by < and > and "ssb" is short for "simple sid backport" |
| 19:14.49 | dadsofamerica | pbase ok in term and run lspci it comes back with a lot |
| 19:14.51 | Amnesia | simple sid backport that was what I was looking for:) |
| 19:15.00 | FIReun | wols: the debian standard live image booted fine after dd, and so did the archlinux image, but both were small images, < 300MB, could there be something off about the large >800MB images? |
| 19:15.08 | zykotick9 | aidalgol, "cat /dev/input/js0" should work. Do you mean to control the mouse with the joystick? |
| 19:15.15 | pbase | dadsofamerica: click on my name and it iwll open a window to chat |
| 19:15.22 | Amnesia | but ehm babilen I have compiled my own version of rxvt-unicode with 256 colours, but now there's an update for rxvt-unicode(which hasnt have the patch enabled) |
| 19:15.25 | ranix | wtf click |
| 19:15.29 | ranix | use /query <user> |
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| 19:15.33 | aidalgol | zykotick9: No, I don't want to control the mouse; I just want to use it for games. |
| 19:15.37 | Amnesia | babilen: so I'd like to disable upgrading for that package |
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| 19:15.54 | tuxcrafter | how to resize partition that is used as physical volume of lvm |
| 19:15.56 | zykotick9 | aidalgol, then xserver-xorg-input-joystick isn't required |
| 19:16.03 | dadsofamerica | im useing win7 trying to config debian on uther pc with no internet |
| 19:16.09 | Amnesia | but echo "rxvt-unicode hold" | dpkg --set-selections isnt what I'm looking for |
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| 19:16.23 | tuxcrafter | parted resize complains about not detecting the filesystem witch is right since the partion is used by lvm |
| 19:16.26 | zykotick9 | aidalgol, do the cat thing, then press buttons/move sticks to see if you get characters outputted to screen |
| 19:16.28 | aidalgol | zykotick9: Oh... :P |
| 19:16.32 | Tigerboy | FlReun: consider trying debian net-install disks -- run from a usb they are very fast. |
| 19:16.43 | aidalgol | zykotick9: Yup, seems to be registering input. :) |
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| 19:16.58 | babilen | Amnesia: Ok, you can pin it (<pinning>) or put it on hold, but I would recommend to backport the package from sid as this gives you a proper TERM -- note that GNU/screen has problems with it though. |
| 19:16.59 | pbase | i now understand the plight of the staff.. i emapthize |
| 19:17.07 | aidalgol | zykotick9: Thanks! |
| 19:17.10 | FIReun | Tigerboy: its a pain to get wifi/wpa going by hand to do the netinstall |
| 19:17.12 | zykotick9 | aidalgol, you may need to point your game/etc to /dev/input/js0 many will try /dev/js0 by default |
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| 19:17.39 | Amnesia | babilen: hm, okay I'll have a look at it, thx |
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| 19:18.02 | aidalgol | zykotick9: Can I use it with Wine games? |
| 19:18.02 | Tigerboy | FlReun: the net installer should set up the network as a first step you don't need to make any changes. |
| 19:18.03 | FIReun | Tigerboy: it feels like the images are not making it to the usb flash drive in the right way to make my bios happy to boot it |
| 19:18.17 | zykotick9 | aidalgol, you "should" sorry i'm not a big wine person |
| 19:18.24 | FIReun | Tigerboy: the net installer does wifi cards now? |
| 19:18.32 | Tigerboy | flreun: try a program to install the boot/mbr for you |
| 19:18.41 | Tigerboy | yes it does. |
| 19:18.49 | FIReun | interesting |
| 19:18.57 | aidalgol | zykotick9: If it doesn't work, I have the unthinkable backup plan. |
| 19:19.16 | FIReun | Tigerboy: yeah, installed mbr by hand as well, it tries to boot but finds no OS to start |
| 19:20.01 | Tigerboy | flReun: you can always go for a cdrom- until you get the usb set up right.. there are several usb set up programs out there. how I do it is create a 10 meg fat 32 partition followed by the rest set to ext2 |
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| 19:20.16 | ranix | I usually just dd the first 440 bytes of another disk with grub, then boot manually via grub rescue |
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| 19:20.33 | FIReun | Tigerboy: I've tried unetbootin |
| 19:20.37 | Tigerboy | you have to have the boot files put to the mbr and update-grub put the grub on that disk |
| 19:20.38 | ranix | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Using_the_rescue_console |
| 19:21.04 | Tigerboy | flreun: ok try that one again they always update them |
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| 19:21.42 | Tigerboy | flReun: they get better each time. It's one of the best ones |
| 19:21.43 | FIReun | Tigerboy: I went and manually installed the latest version, but it doesnt make a small boot partition, just syslinux's the drive and copies the iso contents |
| 19:22.12 | Tigerboy | ok that is ok as long as it is bootable |
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| 19:22.31 | FIReun | its a 4GB drive, I'm wondering if its an issue with fat and that size |
| 19:22.41 | ranix | shouldn't be installing linux on fat |
| 19:22.51 | ranix | on you're using a thumb drive |
| 19:22.53 | ranix | oh^ |
| 19:22.59 | FIReun | nods |
| 19:23.35 | FIReun | Its supprising how many distros target cd/dvd rom as primary installation media -- flash drives are more prevalent than rom drives nowdays |
| 19:23.46 | ranix | can't you just boot off it, install debian via the flash install instructions, and go |
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| 19:24.16 | ranix | (the real way to install debian is via debootstrap on another debian system or pxe netboot) |
| 19:24.17 | FIReun | ranix: its not working with the desktop image, worked fine with the standard live image (for usb hdd) |
| 19:24.42 | Tigerboy | flreun: no it's fine you just cannot have a file bigger than 4gig on a fat 32 |
| 19:24.43 | FIReun | ranix: yeah, I know -- I <3 debootstrap |
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| 19:25.27 | ranix | desktop image? Just install the bare nothings that you need for a bash terminal and networking and then install packages from there |
| 19:25.32 | FIReun | and if I'd have known how hard it was this time around to get a functioning flash drive going with *any* of the distros, I'd have started with debootstrap/chroot |
| 19:25.59 | Tigerboy | flReun: do you have gentoo installed on any computer? |
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| 19:26.05 | FIReun | ranix: I know, I'm using the debian live images -- looking for simple install |
| 19:26.11 | FIReun | its not turning out to be simple tho |
| 19:26.14 | FIReun | Tigerboy: nosir |
| 19:26.33 | ranix | why simple? So you can do it repeatedly, or walk someone else through it? |
| 19:26.42 | FIReun | I thought about giving archlinux a try, but they're more sadistic about manually configuring/installing than even debian |
| 19:26.53 | FIReun | ranix: yes |
| 19:27.08 | ranix | if you're doing it repeatedly use pxe installs |
| 19:27.15 | ranix | if you're walking someone else through it mail them a CD |
| 19:27.19 | FIReun | ranix: its not at the same location |
| 19:27.27 | ranix | bring a laptop |
| 19:27.48 | FIReun | ranix: everyone wants to do it their way (: |
| 19:27.58 | Tigerboy | flreun: try the latest unetboot in testing of deb |
| 19:28.01 | ranix | yep |
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| 19:28.30 | Tigerboy | flreun: make sure you usb drive is inserted and mounted first before you run |
| 19:28.40 | FIReun | Tigerboy: I installed the deb from the unetbootin site |
| 19:28.59 | Tigerboy | oh ok not sure which one that is |
| 19:29.07 | FIReun | Tigerboy: and how should the usbdrive be formatted prior? |
| 19:29.20 | Tigerboy | you can use like fdisk |
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| 19:29.41 | FIReun | Tigerboy: fat32 lba? |
| 19:29.41 | Amnesia | babilen: but a backport wouldn't fix the mssage that there's an update when there is one right? |
| 19:29.47 | Tigerboy | the advantage of formatting fat32 is that it can also be used on windows |
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| 19:30.02 | chenthu | how to run a .sh file? |
| 19:30.08 | slackerr | hi all. im lookin for some solution for verifying checksums in all/selected packages like in rpm-based distros |
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| 19:30.12 | FIReun | Tigerboy: I dont see running windows as an advantage (; |
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| 19:30.22 | zykotick9 | chenthu, "sh foo.sh" should work |
| 19:30.38 | chenthu | zykotick9: thank you |
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| 19:31.02 | zykotick9 | chenthu, the alternative is mark it executable then "./foo.sh" |
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| 19:31.31 | Tigerboy | flreun: yes agree |
| 19:31.32 | FIReun | Tigerboy: hmm, the dd of the desktop image created a fat16 lba partition on the drive, it mounts fine, no reason it shouldnt have booted ): |
| 19:31.52 | FIReun | nukes it, formats it fat32lba, unetbootin's |
| 19:32.10 | aidalgol | OK, I tried my controller with Gish (the Linux version, not in Wine), and it didn't work. :( |
| 19:32.19 | Tigerboy | flreun: fdisk /dev/sdz (whatever the usb is then run mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdz |
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| 19:32.46 | FIReun | Tigerboy: ahha! the boot flag wasnt set on the DD'd partition, setting that and qemu'ing the drive booted ok! |
| 19:32.59 | Tigerboy | flreun: no you have to set the boot flag which unetb will do |
| 19:33.00 | FIReun | Tigerboy: I'll have to let the livecd guys know that image is missing an important bit |
| 19:33.25 | FIReun | Tigerboy: I just modified the partition that was created by dd'ing the image to the flash drive |
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| 19:33.38 | FIReun | Tigerboy: I have to reboot for real to test it -- looks promising tho |
| 19:33.55 | FIReun | Tigerboy: thanks for the diagnostics if I dont make it back by the time you leave |
| 19:33.57 | Tigerboy | yep the usb version is way faster than the cd install |
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| 19:35.00 | chenthu | zykotick9: thank you. |
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| 19:42.40 | dadsofamerica | pbase im here |
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| 19:43.25 | dadsofamerica | is pbase in here |
| 19:43.54 | dadsofamerica | how do i update my kernel? |
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| 19:44.36 | wols | update to what? you install a new kernel like any other package |
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| 19:46.40 | dadsofamerica | i have a intel with via chip set 32bit whats the best kernel for me |
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| 19:47.03 | sixsigma | hi there |
| 19:47.07 | wols | what "intel"? |
| 19:47.07 | dadsofamerica | my pc is gliching it just now showd me the messeg |
| 19:47.19 | dadsofamerica | 4 |
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| 19:47.33 | wols | the -686 kernel. |
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| 19:47.51 | dadsofamerica | im running on the 2.6 ver of kernel |
| 19:48.12 | wols | dadsofamerica: uname -a |
| 19:48.15 | sixsigma | I have downloaded a debian image called ia64 (all my server hardware is Intel) and I just cannot boot it. I dont know why but the server doesnt boot it. I have recorded it twice. I downloaded the "cd-01". What is wrong? |
| 19:48.34 | dadsofamerica | ok what ya need to know from ther |
| 19:48.41 | wols | !ia64 |
| 19:48.41 | dpkg | Intel Architecture-64 (IA-64) is a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as <Itanium> and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
| 19:48.46 | wols | sixsigma: get the AMD64 image |
| 19:48.58 | dadsofamerica | im useing windows7 pc to use iternet and the debian is on uther pc with no iternet |
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| 19:49.07 | sixsigma | wols: my server's proc is a xeon, should I really use amd64? |
| 19:49.13 | sixsigma | xeon 5000 series |
| 19:49.23 | wols | sixsigma: why can't you read what dpkg just wrote? |
| 19:49.38 | wols | dadsofamerica: uname -r if you want it shorted |
| 19:49.41 | wols | *shorter |
| 19:49.59 | sixsigma | sorry, ok wols, you answered after him, so I asked you, sorry |
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| 19:50.12 | dadsofamerica | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 19:50.23 | wols | sixsigma: dpkg is a bot. and it wrote that because I wrote a command for it |
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| 19:50.46 | wols | dadsofamerica: hence you run the -686 kernel as you can clearly see. but why you run lenny I dunno |
| 19:50.56 | sixsigma | wols: haha, lulz, I got it now, thank you |
| 19:51.14 | dadsofamerica | i dont know what to use will you help me please tell me what to download |
| 19:51.22 | sixsigma | wols: doensnt it should boot at least? |
| 19:51.28 | sixsigma | sorry my english |
| 19:51.41 | wols | sixsigma: do you think an ARM or MIPS CD would boot in your Xeon? |
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| 19:52.14 | BaRiZa | hello im new to this, i just installed debian squeeze, everthing up and running. however i have 2 3tb hdd and i want to mount all available space under /home/user. how can i do that pls |
| 19:52.17 | wols | dadsofamerica: I asked you before and you never gave me an answer, so I doubt I get a proper one this time: what is your actual problem you want to solve? |
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| 19:52.52 | wols | BaRiZa: put filesystem(s) on these harddisks and mount them via /etc/fstab. man fstab |
| 19:52.53 | dadsofamerica | im trying to connect my pc thru the eth cable cant get debian to config dchp for internet |
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| 19:53.21 | mmcji | anyone loaded debian on and IBM x3550? |
| 19:53.23 | wols | dadsofamerica: what debian version do you run? |
| 19:53.32 | wols | !tell mmcji about anyone |
| 19:53.33 | dadsofamerica | how i tell? |
| 19:53.39 | dadsofamerica | i just downloaded one |
| 19:53.41 | sixsigma | wols: ok |
| 19:53.45 | Amnesia | ehm question |
| 19:53.53 | Amnesia | I just backported a package but I'm getting: rxvt-unicode-256color depends on ncurses-term |
| 19:54.00 | Amnesia | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.00 | Amnesia | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.02 | sixsigma | wols: thank you |
| 19:54.04 | wols | dadsofamerica: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 19:54.12 | Amnesia | I guess it's impossible then right? |
| 19:54.16 | wols | Amnesia: then install it |
| 19:54.20 | mmcji | I have setup raid 5 and loaded os, but when I reboot the server it is loading the IBM DSA utiltiy and I am not sure why. |
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| 19:54.39 | Amnesia | wols: rxvt-unicode-256color : Depends: ncurses-term (>= 5.8-1) but 5.7+20100313-5 is to be installed |
| 19:54.46 | Amnesia | I'm running squeeze btw |
| 19:54.51 | wols | ,versions ncurses-term |
| 19:54.52 | judd | Package ncurses-term on i386 -- lenny: 5.7+20081213-1; squeeze: 5.7+20100313-5; sid: 5.9-1; wheezy: 5.9-1 |
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| 19:54.58 | Amnesia | and trying to backport sids 256 package for urxvt |
| 19:55.07 | wols | Amnesia: then you will need to backport that ncurses package as well |
| 19:55.18 | chrissbx | Does anyone know how to create google maps urls including source and target location with public transit information? |
| 19:55.21 | Amnesia | hm okay, |
| 19:55.39 | wols | chrissbx: this is debian related how? |
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| 19:55.44 | dadsofamerica | do i type in term |
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| 19:56.25 | chrissbx | wols: well, I guess in a way maybe, because unlike many other OSs Linux distros encourage scripting. |
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| 19:56.44 | wols | chrissbx: your guess sucks. |
| 19:56.50 | chrissbx | wols: would you suggest I ask on a Windows channel? Also, I'm a Debian user. |
| 19:57.14 | chrissbx | So, you don't know or don't want to say. Anyone else? |
| 19:57.17 | wols | I suggest you stay on topic, cause you aren't. this is a support channel for debian. not a "how do i cleverly use google" |
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| 19:57.23 | wols | !ot |
| 19:57.24 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 19:58.20 | chrissbx | Which community would you think would be appropriate to ask that, then, wols? |
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| 19:58.49 | DaveAQ | Does anyone know what this kind of file concatenation does? |
| 19:58.49 | DaveAQ | echo "test" > x 2> y |
| 19:58.58 | wols | maybe #networking? dunno if there is a channel for it |
| 19:59.00 | BaRiZa | wols can i pm |
| 19:59.12 | wols | BaRiZa: no |
| 19:59.27 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: how i do that |
| 19:59.29 | iridos | anyway... just do your stuff, then click "link"? |
| 19:59.30 | DaveAQ | I saw this in a hacktivision script, it does't send the output to both x and y, only x |
| 19:59.33 | wols | dadsofamerica_: do what? |
| 19:59.43 | iridos | DaveAQ, it sends stdout to x and stderr to y |
| 19:59.46 | chrissbx | I've got a need to use Debian to look up public transit frequently from always the same spot, so this is a Debian user issue, so this is on topic. |
| 19:59.57 | BaRiZa | can anyone else help with fstab options and mounting pls |
| 20:00.07 | wols | chrissbx: no it's not |
| 20:00.12 | chrissbx | Don't piss me off. |
| 20:00.15 | chrissbx | Go away. |
| 20:00.19 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: u said cat /ect/debian_version or somehting |
| 20:00.24 | wols | dadsofamerica_: and? |
| 20:00.39 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: do i do it in term or what im new |
| 20:00.41 | DaveAQ | iridos: thanks! are there any additional options like 3> ? |
| 20:00.43 | wols | dadsofamerica_: yes |
| 20:01.24 | dadsofamerica_ | no such file or directory |
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| 20:01.47 | wols | dadsofamerica_: I said /etc/debian_version |
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| 20:02.51 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 20:03.05 | iridos | DaveAQ, man bash, search for ^REDIRECTION (usually search with /)... the 2 is a file descriptor... you can also search for "file descriptor", but it's all described under REDIRECTION anyway |
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| 20:03.40 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: permission deiend |
| 20:03.58 | DaveAQ | iridos: cool. thanks man |
| 20:04.42 | wols | dadsofamerica_: cat /etc/debian_version of course. don't you think before you blindy type anything in? |
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| 20:05.08 | wols | I was simply correcting your typo above which is why it didn't work there |
| 20:05.21 | dadsofamerica_ | wols im new |
| 20:05.45 | dadsofamerica_ | 5.0.4 |
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| 20:05.53 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: 5.0.4 |
| 20:06.07 | iridos | DaveAQ, this question is more appropriate for #bash, on general principles, also take a look at their FAQ at http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ specifically you will probably want to have a look at http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/055 |
| 20:06.29 | wols | dadsofamerica_: ifconfig -a |grep eth0 does it output anything? and if it does, what is in your /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 20:06.46 | iridos | (although this doesn't redirect stderr into stdout but just into another file) |
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| 20:08.12 | juso | Anyone know if touch screen monitor the newer touch screen monitor are working on debian/ubuntu nowadays? |
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| 20:09.12 | dadsofamerica_ | eth0 link ethernet hwddr 00:1d:60:51:94:83 |
| 20:09.17 | DaveAQ | iridos: k, I'll check those and #bash out for any more non-debian bash stuff. Sorry about the irrelevancy, I can usually rely on debian guys to know their bash stuff :) |
| 20:09.42 | dadsofamerica_ | wols:eth0 link ethernet hwddr 00:1d:60:51:94:83 |
| 20:10.00 | wols | dadsofamerica_: I've seen it the first time. and read all what I wrote above please |
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| 20:10.45 | jazotic | how to get ati_remote work like the former lirc_atiusb? i do get readings to /dev/input/inputXX but how to use it w/o X11? |
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| 20:11.57 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: if-down.d, if-post-down.d, if-pre-up.d, if-up.d run interfaces |
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| 20:12.29 | wols | dadsofamerica_: I asked for the content of /etc/network/interfaces, not the what the directory /etc/network/ contains |
| 20:12.31 | FIReun | just setting the boot flag on the partition cured the livecd boot problem. |
| 20:12.41 | FIReun | best livecd experience so far (: |
| 20:13.07 | dadsofamerica_ | wols how i get content im srry im vrry new |
| 20:13.17 | DaveAQ | iridos: wow, that second link you sent hits the nail on the head, thanks again for the info! |
| 20:13.30 | wols | cat <file> |
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| 20:14.40 | wols | dadsofamerica_: the important lines are all those with "eth0" in it |
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| 20:16.31 | dadsofamerica_ | auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp auto eht0 |
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| 20:17.29 | jelly-home | eht0 ? |
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| 20:18.51 | wols | dadsofamerica_: does it really say "eht0"? |
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| 20:19.03 | dadsofamerica_ | eth0 |
| 20:19.29 | wols | the ifup -a will try to get a dhcp lease |
| 20:19.32 | wols | *then |
| 20:19.34 | dadsofamerica_ | both are eth0 |
| 20:20.10 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: just brought me back to promt |
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| 20:20.48 | josefig | I am having problems with some dependencies, when I try to install libgtkmm-2.4-dev it says depends on other library and it says: but it is not going to be installed, why ? |
| 20:20.55 | wols | dadsofamerica_: and what ip address does eth0 have? you can check with "ifconfig" |
| 20:21.05 | wols | !tell josefig about bat |
| 20:21.11 | dadsofamerica_ | 127.0.0.1 |
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| 20:21.38 | josefig | ? |
| 20:22.14 | josefig | k |
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| 20:23.08 | juso | are touch screen monitors compatible with debian/ubuntu nowadays? |
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| 20:24.33 | dadsofamerica_ | wols u still here |
| 20:24.36 | Hadu | Hi all |
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| 20:24.42 | ranix | juso: depends on the type and brand |
| 20:24.56 | ranix | juso: I've used elo touch screens with debian often |
| 20:24.57 | Hadu | I would be ask, if is possbile make SFTP with Vsftp`? |
| 20:25.42 | juso | ranix: okay, i will purchase the model that works for my computer, cant seem to find many info on what works |
| 20:25.42 | wols | Hadu: what would vsftp be? |
| 20:26.07 | Hadu | Is a Modul for make FTP Server |
| 20:26.09 | ranix | juso: try http://www.elotouch.com/ |
| 20:26.21 | wols | Hadu: no. you use an ssh server to be able to use sftp |
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| 20:26.31 | ranix | juso: beware because there are actually few useful ways to utilize a touch screen |
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| 20:27.09 | wols | Hadu: no you may not and #debian.de is there for german speaking people |
| 20:27.10 | wols | !de |
| 20:27.11 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 20:27.31 | dadsofamerica_ | wols ip adress is 127.0.0.1 |
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| 20:28.06 | dadsofamerica_ | whats lenny |
| 20:29.22 | wols | dadsofamerica_: not it's not. your "lo" address is 127.0.0.1 but the one for eth0 is another |
| 20:29.36 | wols | !lenny |
| 20:29.36 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-15 and superseded by Squeeze as of 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 . Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>, <lenny release notes>, <install lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.8>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
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| 20:30.11 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: then the eth0 dosent have one |
| 20:30.19 | dadsofamerica_ | its not showing |
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| 20:30.35 | wols | dadsofamerica_: as root: ifup eth0 |
| 20:31.11 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: allready configed |
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| 20:32.08 | twobitsprite | I'm having some problems mount an NFS export on a system... says no route to host. Yet, I can ping it, and the arp table does show the MAC of the NFS server... when I traceroute it has "!X" after each of the times |
| 20:32.12 | twobitsprite | the man page says the "!X" means the port is "administratively prohibited" |
| 20:33.12 | wols | dadsofamerica_: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
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| 20:34.05 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: ok its doing stuff dont know what |
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| 20:35.35 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: no dchp recieved no working lease in persistent database - sleeping |
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| 20:35.59 | wols | dadsofamerica_: so your windows box isn't acting as a dhcp server |
| 20:36.12 | dadsofamerica_ | i guess not |
| 20:36.30 | dadsofamerica_ | do i have to share the connections or somethin in winbox |
| 20:37.20 | wols | yes you have. you have to use ICS, but how to do this is offtopic in #debian |
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| 20:38.05 | bdheeman | twobitsprite: do check your firewall/iptables setup on nfs server and make sure nfsd and rpcbind are configured and running on the server |
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| 20:38.46 | dadsofamerica_ | wols: u know what to do tho?? |
| 20:39.00 | ranix | dadsofamerica_: try #windows or google |
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| 20:39.12 | ranix | or just get a proper router |
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| 20:39.42 | ranix | or connect your debian machine directly to the internet |
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| 20:42.07 | dadsofamerica_ | how i set my ip to config auto? |
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| 20:42.18 | bdheeman | twobitsprite: rpcbind superseded portmap, but your release still might have portmap |
| 20:42.29 | wols | dadsofamerica_: you already did in debian |
| 20:42.56 | ranix | dadsofamerica_: if you need to do it again for some reason, man 5 interfaces |
| 20:43.24 | dadsofamerica_ | ranix: whats that mean |
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| 20:43.37 | ranix | dadsofamerica_: man is a command that shows help files in linux |
| 20:43.54 | ranix | if you run "man 5 interfaces" you will see a specific help file describing how to set up networking in debian |
| 20:44.39 | ranix | it also has helpful "see also" links and keywords that lead to other man pages or that you can search in google |
| 20:45.20 | ranix | it takes some time to learn how to read these but once you know how it becomes easy to use the command line |
| 20:45.33 | dadsofamerica_ | ok ty |
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| 20:47.06 | dadsofamerica_ | do i have to download iface |
| 20:47.28 | ranix | invalid question |
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| 20:49.26 | dadsofamerica_ | how do you use iface |
| 20:49.52 | abrotman | tha'ts a joke right? |
| 20:50.12 | twobitsprite | bdfoster: yeah, I just thought about that when I asked... |
| 20:50.31 | twobitsprite | bdfoster: turning iptables to wide open it works... just need to figure out which ports I need to open |
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| 20:51.40 | ranix | dadsofamerica_: that manpage is showing you how to edit a file named /etc/network/interfaces. Please read the page in its entirety if you want to understand how to configure your network. If you don't want to understand, kludge around until it works |
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| 20:53.11 | bdfoster | twobitsprite, ? |
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| 20:54.45 | abrotman | bdfoster: mistab |
| 20:54.58 | bdfoster | figured that after I read |
| 20:55.00 | bdfoster | lol |
| 20:55.29 | chenthu | guys i am trying to install my nvidia driver by following http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers but when ever i run " m-a auto-install nvidia-kernel-195.36.31" i get this -------> http://pastebin.com/7i8BW29D |
| 20:55.44 | dadsofamerica_ | i dont understand what it all means |
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| 20:56.27 | bdfoster | dadsofamerica_, what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 20:56.34 | abrotman | run away! |
| 20:56.46 | bdfoster | oh snap lol |
| 20:57.24 | dadsofamerica_ | i cant get my winbox and debian to connect thru the eth0 |
| 20:57.47 | bdfoster | run away from linux |
| 20:57.52 | bdfoster | far far away |
| 20:57.56 | dadsofamerica_ | y: |
| 20:59.04 | abrotman | anyone ask if there's a switch ? |
| 20:59.19 | bdfoster | or a router |
| 20:59.33 | bdfoster | dhcp |
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| 20:59.38 | bdfoster | residential gateway |
| 20:59.39 | bdfoster | etc |
| 21:00.10 | bdfoster | dadsofamerica_, do you have a cat5 cable from your windows box directly to your debian box? |
| 21:00.18 | ranix | abrotman: I think |
| 21:00.28 | ranix | abrotman: I think "switch" is a word with too many syllables for dadsofamerica_ |
| 21:00.45 | dadsofamerica_ | yes with the blu and blu/w gren green/w wires switched |
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| 21:00.46 | bdfoster | ranix, don't be mean |
| 21:00.52 | abrotman | don't be cruel .. |
| 21:01.01 | dadsofamerica_ | it make s a hard link works fin in 2winbox pc |
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| 21:01.25 | bdfoster | what happens if you hook both machines up to your router |
| 21:01.27 | bdfoster | ? |
| 21:01.32 | dadsofamerica_ | i know winbox just not linux |
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| 21:01.46 | dadsofamerica_ | i dont have a router |
| 21:01.53 | abrotman | what do you have? |
| 21:01.54 | bdfoster | how are you talking to us? |
| 21:01.56 | dadsofamerica_ | hints the rezin i made the cabel |
| 21:02.13 | dadsofamerica_ | i have 2 pc 1 with debiuan and the uther with winbox |
| 21:02.22 | bdfoster | abrotman, can I PM you? |
| 21:02.23 | abrotman | is it a crossover cable? |
| 21:02.26 | abrotman | bdfoster: sure |
| 21:02.45 | dadsofamerica_ | yes |
| 21:02.52 | abrotman | dadsofamerica_: are you sure? |
| 21:03.20 | dadsofamerica_ | abrotman yes i have 2 pc when i put windows on both it works just fine just not with debian |
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| 21:03.44 | abrotman | dadsofamerica_: which version of Debian? did you man interfaces? |
| 21:03.58 | dadsofamerica_ | 1 sec |
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| 21:04.25 | dadsofamerica_ | none |
| 21:04.45 | abrotman | none what? |
| 21:04.46 | dadsofamerica_ | debian version 5.0.4 |
| 21:04.51 | abrotman | bullshit |
| 21:04.56 | jonaskoelker | Hi all. I have a dpkg-based (maemo) system that will be nuked and rebuilt. I want to grab a list of packages to reinstall. Is dpkg --get-selections the best way to go? |
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| 21:05.25 | dadsofamerica_ | how i find my version again |
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| 21:05.42 | abrotman | dadsofamerica_: how long ago did you install it ? |
| 21:06.04 | dadsofamerica_ | just know downloaded it 3 maybe 4 yrs then came back to it today |
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| 21:06.31 | abrotman | dadsofamerica_: go to debian.org, get a new netinst .. install it .. then talk to us again |
| 21:06.44 | abrotman | dadsofamerica_: get a squeeze installer, whichever you want |
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| 21:06.59 | TBotNik | All: I just had a freeze up on the internet on one of my boxes, so rebooting and now the boot record is not reading at all, so getting the "no bootable disk! Restart with Ctl+Alt+Del" error. Is there a quick howto for this? What I'd finding are HOWTOs on what to do when you want the recovery mode (menu), not "cannot read disk at all". Either need HOWTO or someone to give me step-by-step. Thanks! |
| 21:07.09 | dadsofamerica_ | i dont know where to download from i looked on debian |
| 21:07.18 | abrotman | i told you, debian.org |
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| 21:07.44 | abrotman | dadsofamerica_: english is your primary language? It's a website in english, not hard to read |
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| 21:08.01 | ranix | there are debian chats in other languages if it's not |
| 21:08.11 | dadsofamerica_ | abortman: dont have to be rude i just asked |
| 21:08.27 | bdfoster | dadsofamerica_, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso |
| 21:08.34 | bdfoster | click on the link |
| 21:08.38 | bdfoster | burn to disk |
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| 21:08.51 | abrotman | ranix: i think they speak english in western ohio |
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| 21:09.05 | dadsofamerica_ | im in eastern |
| 21:09.07 | dadsofamerica_ | and not from us |
| 21:09.14 | bdfoster | which is where the ip is from |
| 21:09.15 | abrotman | your IP is from Ohio |
| 21:09.16 | bdfoster | ? |
| 21:09.19 | p0g0 | buckeyes? don't be so sure... |
| 21:09.20 | dadsofamerica_ | i moved here whn i was a young boy |
| 21:09.31 | abrotman | p0g0: heh |
| 21:09.46 | abrotman | sussudio p0g0 of being a nittany lion |
| 21:09.46 | ranix | I thought ohio was a story parents used to frighten young children with. I had no idea it was real |
| 21:09.50 | abrotman | uh .. suspects |
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| 21:10.13 | abrotman | sussudio: mistab, sorry |
| 21:10.29 | bdfoster | all too real for me, I live next door to it |
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| 21:10.41 | dadsofamerica_ | i dont have internet on my debian machin |
| 21:10.45 | p0g0 | abrotman: no, I actually live in the region adjacent, and I am not being serious. |
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| 21:11.26 | dadsofamerica_ | will i need internet for this version to install |
| 21:11.36 | abrotman | nopw |
| 21:11.38 | abrotman | nope |
| 21:11.50 | dadsofamerica_ | k |
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| 21:11.56 | bdfoster | hook a non cross over cable from your debian machine to your router |
| 21:12.07 | abrotman | doesn't windows still have this ICS that makes sharing internet easy ? |
| 21:12.18 | bdfoster | requires two network cards |
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| 21:12.36 | bdfoster | not even sure if that exists in newer versions |
| 21:12.44 | dadsofamerica_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.47 | bdfoster | it's been a little while since ive played with windows |
| 21:12.49 | dadsofamerica_ | when there isnt one |
| 21:13.25 | dadsofamerica_ | *modem |
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| 21:13.27 | bdfoster | why can't you hook your debian box up to the internet? |
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| 21:14.08 | dadsofamerica_ | becouse i use wireless internet and cant get my wlan to config ithere |
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| 21:14.36 | abrotman | surreal ... |
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| 21:14.59 | bdfoster | ok, explain to me what your wireless router looks like |
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| 21:15.12 | bdfoster | how many ports does it have on the back of it and what do they look like |
| 21:15.29 | dadsofamerica_ | ok i dont have a router im linked to my nextdoor nabers internet |
| 21:15.37 | dadsofamerica_ | with there permision |
| 21:15.41 | dadsofamerica_ | i mind u |
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| 21:16.05 | abrotman | stealing internet too eh? |
| 21:16.12 | dadsofamerica_ | i have a wlan usb |
| 21:16.32 | dadsofamerica_ | not stealing i have the passcode with there permision so not stealing |
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| 21:18.01 | p0g0 | chenthu: the error message you pasted says that the exact package/version you sought is not in the repository, but something else in the repository used to depend on that package (more or less)-usually that error is due to mixed repositories, the repository is actively being changed, or you have out of date repository lists. Likely, there is a more recent nvidia package. |
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| 21:18.18 | abrotman | !firmware installer |
| 21:18.18 | dpkg | Debian-Installer since Lenny is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04 and http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. http://deb.li/3tGse |
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| 21:18.27 | abrotman | !firmware images |
| 21:18.27 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Squeeze are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. http://deb.li/3tGse |
| 21:18.39 | abrotman | dadsofamerica: use that image instead .. the first URL in the line above mine |
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| 21:19.53 | dadsofamerica | what do i download from this page? |
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| 21:20.39 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso |
| 21:20.42 | abrotman | that exactl file |
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| 21:21.07 | dadsofamerica | ty |
| 21:21.21 | dadsofamerica | will this have better support or something |
| 21:21.32 | abrotman | yes |
| 21:21.49 | dadsofamerica | so thats why theres difernt kernels |
| 21:21.54 | p0g0 | dadsofamerica: it should make your wireless work during the install. |
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| 21:22.06 | dadsofamerica | im srry guys im ust to windows that shiz is all automated install |
| 21:22.24 | dadsofamerica | us to debian im ust to windows |
| 21:22.26 | jhutchins_lt | dadsofamerica: Except when it isn't. |
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| 21:23.04 | dadsofamerica | right so it should work for the install then ill have to config when it boots in gnu right |
| 21:23.06 | jhutchins_lt | dadsofamerica: Or when it doesn't work at all, in which case there's nothing you can do in Windows. |
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| 21:23.22 | chenthu | p0g0: ok i am getting it done some how... :) |
| 21:24.47 | dadsofamerica | be back |
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| 21:30.06 | n-iCe | hi I cannot watch videos on epiphany or google chrome any ideas? I have installed java script and flash |
| 21:30.34 | devil_ | what is 'videos'? |
| 21:31.14 | n-iCe | sites videos the only videos I can watch are from youtube :/ |
| 21:31.28 | jhutchins_lt | n-iCe: Then you probably have flash working. |
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| 21:31.38 | devil_ | or html5 |
| 21:32.36 | devil_ | n-iCe: my question was more on the format of the vids that do not play |
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| 21:32.52 | n-iCe | well how can I know the format of the video if is in embbed on a site |
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| 21:33.40 | n-iCe | I think is SWF |
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| 21:37.50 | montezaus | I've written a bash script to convert all dos txt files to unix txt files. But I also want to convert the txt files in the subdirectories. How shoud I modify the script? : find . -name '*.txt' -exec dos2unix {} \; |
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| 21:40.39 | abrotman | montgrrrr |
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| 21:41.37 | devil_ | patience is a virtue |
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| 21:42.58 | abrotman | or something like that |
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| 21:47.51 | sonander | hey gcentauri |
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| 21:48.19 | sixyearsofdreams | Finally I got sendmail to work! I would like to thank everyone who helped i you are here :0 |
| 21:48.31 | sixyearsofdreams | now that i know how it works i should be able to assist someone else :) |
| 21:49.08 | willeosoeurs | hmm |
| 21:49.17 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah my ISP was blocking port 25 |
| 21:49.19 | willeosoeurs | anyone using subtlewm in debian ? |
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| 21:50.33 | sixyearsofdreams | not me |
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| 21:50.37 | sixyearsofdreams | whats subtlewm |
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| 21:50.47 | pnelson | willeosoeurs: I did at one point, briefly. I might be able to help. |
| 21:50.49 | klh | installed a bare minimal |
| 21:50.58 | klh | can startx no problem in root |
| 21:51.16 | willeosoeurs | pnelson : hows d process in building the deb/install for it ? |
| 21:51.16 | klh | but in order to startx with user I must add: startx jwm |
| 21:51.29 | willeosoeurs | sixyearsofdreams : here http://subforge.org/projects/subtle/wiki |
| 21:51.31 | klh | and when jwm starts there is an xterm there |
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| 21:51.45 | sixyearsofdreams | willeosoeurs: ok |
| 21:53.07 | pnelson | I just followed the steps on the installation section of the wiki for Debian. A few packages might have been slightly different. I didn't build a deb for it. |
| 21:53.23 | willeosoeurs | hmm , which packages were different ? |
| 21:53.25 | willeosoeurs | rake ? |
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| 21:53.54 | klh | any reason why with user startx displays an xterm while with root it does not show ? |
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| 21:55.13 | pnelson | I didn't need to install rake1.9.1. I just used whatever Rake was provided from ruby1.9.1 / ruby1.9.1-dev. |
| 21:55.29 | pnelson | I believe... |
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| 21:55.31 | willeosoeurs | pnelson : ahh ok :D |
| 21:55.57 | willeosoeurs | pnelson : hope those files wont bloat my system :/ |
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| 21:56.49 | pnelson | It shouldn't be a big deal. :) |
| 21:57.02 | willeosoeurs | :) |
| 21:57.07 | willeosoeurs | gonna try it later on |
| 21:57.18 | willeosoeurs | :D thx |
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| 21:57.26 | pnelson | No problem. Good luck. |
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| 21:57.34 | willeosoeurs | :D |
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| 22:02.08 | sixyearsofdreams | is webmin an web email interface ? |
| 22:02.36 | ranix | !webmin |
| 22:02.37 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 22:02.49 | pnelson | :o |
| 22:03.06 | sixyearsofdreams | @@ |
| 22:03.27 | sixyearsofdreams | is there anything i can configure to access email through broweser |
| 22:03.35 | ranix | squirrelmail |
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| 22:03.54 | sixyearsofdreams | ah ive seen that |
| 22:03.55 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
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| 22:25.06 | mooglenorph | Hi. I'm running squeeze and I think my laptop may be overheating. What CLI utilities can I use to monitor temperature and fan activity? |
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| 22:25.51 | chenthu | p0g0: fixed th repository issue |
| 22:26.16 | Worf | mooglenorph: lm-sensors, munin for web graphps, gkrellm and others for gui stuff, ... |
| 22:26.51 | mooglenorph | Worf: thanks |
| 22:26.53 | bzed | mooglenorph: or just cd /sys/devices/virtual/thermal and look into the thermal_zone directories there |
| 22:27.52 | mooglenorph | bzed: Hm, I seem to have two thermal zones and three cooling devices. One zone is at 44, one is at 39 |
| 22:28.10 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know what a trailing "-" signifies at the end of file names like /etc/passwd-, /etc/group- and /etc/gshadow-? |
| 22:28.17 | bzed | mooglenorph: the zones might be the cores of your cpu. doesn't sound hot :) |
| 22:29.41 | mooglenorph | bzed: that's a relief. I'm concerned because the keyboard is rather warm to the touch. I haven't owned this laptop for long, though, so I may just not be used to it. |
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| 22:30.31 | RafaFuturo | i spend 2 day triting to install the wireles adapter on my laptop any help? |
| 22:30.37 | RafaFuturo | is a bcm43xxx |
| 22:30.56 | bzed | mooglenorph: as suggested before, if you want to know more you might want to install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect to configure the modules |
| 22:31.13 | kristian-aalborg | installing on an USB pen would be as simple as just popping it in, install on it and change BIOS accordingly... right? |
| 22:31.15 | bzed | mooglenorph: and then run sensors to look at the values |
| 22:31.36 | bzed | mooglenorph: or if you have a thinkpad maybe look in /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal |
| 22:31.45 | bzed | mooglenorph: there might be similar files in /proc for other laptops |
| 22:31.53 | bzed | mooglenorph: *in /proc/acpi |
| 22:32.12 | mooglenorph | bzed: yeah, I have a thinkpad. I'm doing the lm-sensors thing now, I'll ask if I run into issues. seems straightforward enough... |
| 22:32.32 | bzed | mooglenorph: on a thinkpag cat /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal |
| 22:32.49 | RafaFuturo | this sucks |
| 22:33.19 | jhutchins_lt | RafaFuturo: Have you tried google? |
| 22:33.27 | RafaFuturo | yes |
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| 22:33.32 | RafaFuturo | for 2 days now |
| 22:33.33 | RafaFuturo | lol |
| 22:33.33 | bzed | RafaFuturo: and did ytou install the firmware for the model you have? |
| 22:33.51 | bzed | RafaFuturo: http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
| 22:33.59 | jhutchins_lt | RafaFuturo: WHICH 43xx? |
| 22:34.04 | RafaFuturo | i did what google searches suggested but still no wireless :( |
| 22:34.10 | RafaFuturo | let me try that |
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| 22:34.55 | bzed | RafaFuturo: also put the output of lspci -nn in a pastebin and link to it... *sigh* |
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| 22:35.21 | jimbo1qaz | my debian won't have hardware acceleration |
| 22:35.27 | jimbo1qaz | radeon 5450 |
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| 22:35.45 | jimbo1qaz | installed a bunch of drivers from testing, no luck... |
| 22:35.55 | jimbo1qaz | insists on using soft rasterizer |
| 22:36.19 | jimbo1qaz | somewhere says I probably need newer kernel, but that's in unstable |
| 22:36.32 | jimbo1qaz | can't enable unstable repository |
| 22:37.14 | jimbo1qaz | i read manpage of radeon, says supported |
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| 22:40.04 | jimbo1qaz | anyone help???? |
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| 22:43.38 | thewanderer1 | in a chroot, how do I disable running init scripts on package upgrade? the chroot is a working PC's filesystem and I need to disable the init scripts only when in a chroot, not when the FS is live. |
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| 22:47.00 | kristian-aalborg | hi thewanderer1 ;) |
| 22:47.10 | thewanderer1 | kristian-aalborg: oh hi :P |
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| 22:47.32 | kristian-aalborg | I thought you knew stuff about computers, why are you asking here? :P |
| 22:48.26 | thewanderer1 | and why aren't you on XMPP? :P |
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| 22:49.24 | kristian-aalborg | no time really, should be cleaning up stuff... still not finished moving |
| 22:49.27 | kristian-aalborg | take care |
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| 22:55.43 | chenthu | guys any idea of how to install adobe flash player to my icewease browser? |
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| 22:59.57 | massmc | chenthu search for flash in synaptic non free |
| 23:00.08 | nkuttler | !tell chenthu about flash |
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| 23:00.31 | chenthu | massmc and nkuttler installed ...thank you |
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| 23:04.27 | pnelson | Hi all. Anybody with weechat and 256 colors? I must have made some minor change recently but nicks aren't being colored nearly as frequently, if that makes sense. |
| 23:04.36 | ompaul | babilen: you about? |
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| 23:05.32 | ompaul | pnelson: you have shrunk the spectrum you use ... no idea ... konversation here :) |
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| 23:07.02 | pnelson | ompaul: Not sure... I know my terminal is 256 colors ready (verified with tput colors), I've set up my palette and chat_nick_colors in weechat.conf. It just suddenly stopped working today after I was moving some files around but I don't recall it needing anything else. |
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| 23:07.28 | babilen | ompaul: ack |
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| 23:13.44 | pnelson | Thanks anyways I'm going to try a few things out. |
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| 23:18.09 | troulouliou | hi i set my minning for iceweasel on squeeze-backports , i want o upgrade now bu dist-upgrade do not switch automatically to it |
| 23:18.13 | troulouliou | is it normal ? |
| 23:18.46 | chenthu | does some one know how to install the downloaded tar.bz2 file? |
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| 23:24.59 | p0g0 | chenthu: there are various methods. The place you found the file (aka bzipped tarball) might have instructions. Look at Midnight Commander (mc) for a handy tool to help with the tarball & b(un)zipping. |
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| 23:25.41 | chenthu | p0g0: ok thanks u |
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| 23:28.46 | chenthu | p0g0: i downloaded a login theme in tar.bz2 format.... |
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| 23:30.21 | DexterF | hi |
| 23:30.35 | nsadmin | chenthu, since it's not a debian package... you'd have to find the answers to questions like... how to install, how to remove, how to adjust |
| 23:31.15 | nsadmin | a .tar.gz can be -anything- |
| 23:31.58 | DexterF | I cannot get x11vnc working in wheezy. says xauth: "file /home/dexter/.Xauthority does not exist". is the Xauth cookie somewhere else in testing, or do I need to generate it? (a user is logged into a gdm/xfce session) |
| 23:33.23 | th0r | chenthu: did you try to search for the information you need? |
| 23:33.34 | nsadmin | xauth installed? |
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| 23:34.42 | themill | DexterF: gdm3 sticks it somewhere in /var (can't recall where....) |
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| 23:36.41 | chenthu | th0r: hey thor how r u?...my display and wifi probs are solved.. thanks to you too...if u mean information on themes then yes and i am still searchig and reading asked here so that the process could be simplyfied |
| 23:37.05 | th0r | chenthu: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=how+to+install+a+login+theme+in+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest |
| 23:37.42 | chenthu | th0r: thank you as always |
| 23:37.44 | th0r | chenthu: just about every answer for every linux question is online. It is to your advantage to learn how to effectively search for the information. |
| 23:38.32 | th0r | chenthu: if you run into problems installing it, bring as much information as you can regarding what you tried and how it didn't work |
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| 23:38.54 | nsadmin | yeah, if you're spoonfed, you'll feel deprived if you ask something and fail to get the answer, which you will feel dependent upon |
| 23:39.01 | chenthu | th0r: sure |
| 23:39.37 | chenthu | nsadmin: ok :) |
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| 23:45.02 | ectospasm | nsadmin: I counter that with sometimes not being able to form the question properly so you can search a machine for the answer. Sometimes a human filter can understand what you mean when Google can't. |
| 23:45.09 | ectospasm | ...again, this is OT |
| 23:45.41 | harovali1 | hi , I'm experiencing a wierd effect with the network interfaces in a machine, It's a modern debian machine: they are configured as Bridged by a running VirtualBox, but after some hours of functioning, the IP address of the two NICs are lost. The VM works fine sinces it bridges traffic, but the remaining services become unavailable. I've found that avahi daemon was running , and disabled it in the hope that it was the cuplri |
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| 23:47.03 | bvk_ | how to know the current module parameter value of an already loaded module? |
| 23:47.12 | yagoo | bvk_, ? |
| 23:47.20 | yagoo | bvk_, you mean like "modinfo <> " ? |
| 23:47.21 | DexterF | themill: that's already discussed as I see. thread says solved tho I would not really call that a solution...http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55327 |
| 23:47.43 | yagoo | bvk_, i believe modules or options file in /etc/modprobe.d alike directory |
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| 23:48.04 | bvk_ | yes, but modinfo prints all supported parameters (but not their current values), isn't it? |
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| 23:49.06 | yagoo | bvk_, i don't know about querying the memory.. but any params passed look into those files i mentioned |
| 23:49.36 | ectospasm | bvk_: look in /sys/module/... |
| 23:50.07 | bvk_ | ectospasm: thanks, but this module (vmxnet3) doesn't have parameters directory in there :( |
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| 23:50.41 | ectospasm | bvk_: I don't know then, it was my understanding that properly behaving drivers would follow the standard, but I don't know if that's a hard requirement. |
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| 23:51.08 | bvk_ | no worries. I will keep trying :) |
| 23:51.11 | ectospasm | I know my employer's interface card drivers follow the /sys/module/<driver>/parameters/... |
| 23:51.14 | klhtmp | what desktop do some of you use? |
| 23:51.25 | ectospasm | klhtmp: I use XMonad |
| 23:51.30 | klhtmp | O_o |
| 23:51.32 | themill | dpkg: tell klhtmp about polls |
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| 23:51.56 | klhtmp | how do I use that bot? |
| 23:52.03 | klhtmp | pm |
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