| 00:00.18 | jhutchins_lt | vsftp is just relatively more secure than the old ftp daemons. |
| 00:00.25 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_lt: ok... any ideas on what should I use to allow my users to upload casual files (JPEG/tarballs) to the server? |
| 00:00.38 | jhutchins_lt | scp/sshfs |
| 00:00.40 | nsadmin | , versions libvirt0 |
| 00:00.41 | judd | Package libvirt0 on i386 -- etch-backports: 0.4.6-10~bpo40+1; lenny: 0.4.6-10+lenny1; lenny-backports: 0.8.3-4~bpo50+1; sid: 0.8.3-5; squeeze: 0.8.3-5; experimental: 0.8.6-1 |
| 00:00.47 | thewanderer1 | (they will be using mobile computers with Windows, or random computers with no SSH clients...) |
| 00:01.06 | acemi | sftp |
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| 00:01.16 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: there are file transfer clients for Mac that will work over ssh, I assume there's something from the putty suite that will work. |
| 00:01.28 | thewanderer1 | so... I just tell everyone to download WinSCP? |
| 00:02.18 | thewanderer1 | (text interface will make users cry with horror) |
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| 00:04.24 | thewanderer1 | well, given that grsec doesn't want to work with vsftpd and vsftpd wants CAP_SYS_ADMIN, I guess that's the way to go |
| 00:04.32 | ailo | Jordan_U: Just trying both firefox 4 and chromium, of which both should be html5 capable. Perhaps they are not set up automatically? Trying Youtube, but I only get "Install missing plugin". |
| 00:04.58 | thewanderer1 | ailo: http://youtube.com/html5 - enable the alpha mode (need cookies for that) |
| 00:04.58 | Jordan_U | ailo: http://youtube.com/html5 |
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| 00:05.49 | ailo | Thanks. I hope not all the sites that have html5 need to be accessed in this way :) |
| 00:06.05 | Jordan_U | ailo: At the moment most do. |
| 00:06.51 | Arrowmaster | thewanderer1: is you absolutely need something secure that will work on random desktop computers then uploading over HTTPS is likely the only solution |
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| 00:07.50 | thewanderer1 | Arrowmaster: thanks. any worthwhile packages for that? (PHP, CGI...) |
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| 00:08.41 | thewanderer1 | hmm it could be somewhat hard, on a second thought - FTP servers typically call setuid() and setgid() to place files under their respective owners' rights... |
| 00:12.17 | thewanderer1 | and I wouldn't want to run a file upload service in PHP as root :P |
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| 00:13.29 | thewanderer1 | looks like I need to implement HTTPS, per-user PHP and some file uploader :P |
| 00:13.43 | jhutchins_lt | php/http can be run as non-root |
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| 00:16.10 | thewanderer1 | yeah, CGI under apache2 suPHP... |
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| 00:18.00 | MindWarper | cant find the gingerbread mirrors ? |
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| 00:18.12 | MindWarper | any ideas ? |
| 00:18.40 | Arrowmaster | MindWarper: why are you asking in #debian? |
| 00:18.59 | thewanderer1 | suspects a mind warp... |
| 00:19.03 | MindWarper | here else should i ask about it ? |
| 00:19.17 | Arrowmaster | yes, not in #debian |
| 00:19.25 | MindWarper | were then ? |
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| 00:20.11 | koeri | FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! jjman6_ jjman6 red-paladin xtr digitalmortician brammat1r brammator Arm zeroheroDeb Agiofws Italian_Plumber1 MattWB valdyn me345 usn NightMonkey Surf Asen-Ger tmw Bhavic pierrep Butt3rfly rphillips Faithful ailo Ambagasdo |
| 00:20.11 | koeri | FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! githogori p0g0 nsadmin CompWizrd mavhc bier jelly-home matt_o dimir jonmasters zwox SQlvpapir sylarr do0ob bas hydra nick_h Shadur karsten stockholm GhostInTheShell claw steffen- bzed julzmb Fyrespray^ djace cnu Judas_PhD |
| 00:20.29 | SQlvpapir | lol funny guy |
| 00:21.04 | mezod | so what do you think about obama -.- |
| 00:21.07 | Arrowmaster | MindWarper: how should i know where, but not in #debian |
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| 00:21.23 | puty | what i have to do ? |
| 00:21.26 | jelly-home | s/funny/annoying/; s/guy/git/ |
| 00:21.29 | puty | to move channel ? |
| 00:21.34 | jelly-home | puty: ignore the spam. |
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| 00:21.45 | nsadmin | nothing to see/do here... |
| 00:21.45 | gaysexmarienz | FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! gaysexmarienz buntfalke fr33k puty pipegeek DeathNostril preller \13k Suhana nhandler izibi davidrussell un214 Hut paradigm AimHere mezod fandrinkle peregrinator_six Soothsayer sunny_s adarnimrod jpinx-eeepc noodle |
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| 00:22.06 | thewanderer1 | we're moving to irc.debian.org anyway, aren't we? |
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| 00:22.14 | puty | ok |
| 00:22.17 | Arrowmaster | that was a long time ago |
| 00:22.18 | thewanderer1 | there was some decision to migrate to OFTC or so... |
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| 00:22.22 | kdhbne12 | FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! kdhbne12 Corin Matic`Makovec buntfalke fr33k puty pipegeek DeathNostril preller \13k Suhana nhandler izibi davidrussell un214 Hut paradigm AimHere fandrinkle peregrinator_six Soothsayer sunny_s adarnimrod jpinx-eeepc noodl |
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| 00:22.22 | kdhbne12 | FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! faitz carandraug Biolunar githogori p0g0 nsadmin CompWizrd mavhc bier jelly-home matt_o dimir jonmasters zwox SQlvpapir sylarr do0ob bas hydra nick_h Shadur karsten stockholm GhostInTheShell claw steffen- bzed julzmb Fyres |
| 00:22.22 | Suhana | Somebody got an ignore line for that pillock ? |
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| 00:22.38 | nsadmin | they're all different |
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| 00:22.46 | AimHere | No point, different IP, different nick |
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| 00:22.56 | koeri | FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! carandraug Biolunar githogori p0g0 nsadmin CompWizrd mavhc bier jelly-home matt_o dimir jonmasters zwox SQlvpapir sylarr do0ob bas hydra nick_h Shadur karsten stockholm GhostInTheShell claw steffen- bzed julzmb Fyrespray |
| 00:23.03 | Jordan_U | thewanderer1: The messages are spam, ignore them |
| 00:23.26 | usn | I did not know the word "pillock". Great ;) |
| 00:23.29 | AimHere | If your client is halfways decent, you could mod it to ignore anyone spamming these messages, but the perps are being killed automatically anyways |
| 00:23.30 | Hut | plz kick that guy? |
| 00:23.44 | xtr | why is freenode closing this channel? |
| 00:23.48 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 00:23.49 | nsadmin | not. |
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| 00:23.51 | Hut | ... |
| 00:23.51 | kdhbne12 | FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! kdhbne12 ajikeshi Matic`Makovec buntfalke fr33k puty pipegeek DeathNostril preller \13k Suhana nhandler izibi davidrussell un214 Hut paradigm AimHere fandrinkle peregrinator_six Soothsayer sunny_s adarnimrod jpinx-eeepc no |
| 00:23.53 | AimHere | Freenode isn't. |
| 00:23.55 | SQlvpapir | casefalms |
| 00:23.58 | puty | son of the bitch gates |
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| 00:24.05 | MindWarper | lol |
| 00:24.06 | Jordan_U | xtr: The messages are spam, ignore them |
| 00:24.08 | puty | jajaja |
| 00:24.11 | Hut | pretty easy to script "irgnor capslock naps" |
| 00:24.20 | MindWarper | are the spammers using windows ? |
| 00:24.27 | AimHere | They were trying this on in #freenode till someone /mode +r'ed it |
| 00:24.30 | Arm | idoru: I so thumbs up you |
| 00:24.35 | Arm | idol! |
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| 00:24.47 | thewanderer1 | got any client that supports ignoring messages based on content? |
| 00:24.53 | Arrowmaster | its either a botnet or somebody with a lot of proxies, possibly a combination of both |
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| 00:25.08 | jelly-home | !ops a temporary +r perhaps? |
| 00:25.08 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly-home complains about: a temporary +r perhaps |
| 00:25.20 | nsadmin | I was just gonna say... |
| 00:25.44 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: idoru is killing them, so it's fine |
| 00:26.07 | ailo | Maybe there should be an #off-topic_definition channel where off-topic is properly defined? |
| 00:26.07 | MindWarper | im not registred and im not a spammer |
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| 00:26.44 | jhutchins_lt | MindWarper: so register. |
| 00:26.52 | AimHere | If you have an #off-topic channel, then is the offtopicness of the channel on-topic or not? You break IRC with a Russell Paradox if you have an explicitly offtopic channel |
| 00:27.01 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: it's annoying since there's a) spam, and b) more than zero persons not ignoring the spam |
| 00:27.05 | nsadmin | MindWarper, if they +r for awhile, then your choices become... no speek, register |
| 00:27.08 | jhutchins_lt | /msg nickserv help register |
| 00:27.28 | MindWarper | its against my beliefs in a free society |
| 00:27.32 | un214 | anybody know where this guy comes from? |
| 00:27.50 | nsadmin | MindWarper: it's against your belief to have a choice? |
| 00:28.03 | dondelelcaro | folks, it's off topic here. Take it elsewhere. |
| 00:28.30 | un214 | channel policies are always on topic for channel they are about |
| 00:28.35 | MindWarper | if the only choices left are the wrong ones |
| 00:28.37 | jelly-home | AimHere: #debian-offtopic |
| 00:28.46 | dondelelcaro | un214: no, they are not. Take the discussion to #debian-offtopic if you want. |
| 00:29.20 | MindWarper | why should i pay for what the others are doing |
| 00:29.35 | nsadmin | pay? no one said anything about pay |
| 00:29.36 | MindWarper | if you do -r it only means they halfway won |
| 00:29.37 | dondelelcaro | MindWarper: please stop. Discuss it elsewhere if you must |
| 00:29.45 | thewanderer1 | hey, I've installed fpc-compiler and some units for it, but it requires a linker (ld) which is not in depends. a bug or PEBKAC? |
| 00:30.03 | nsadmin | how did you install it? |
| 00:30.14 | MindWarper | they onw by removing choice |
| 00:30.24 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: is it in Recommends at least? |
| 00:30.50 | thewanderer1 | nope |
| 00:31.04 | h3sp4wn | MindWarper: No they didn't because it never happened |
| 00:31.06 | thewanderer1 | I installed by `aptitude --without-recommends install fp-compiler fp-units-base`, but there were no recommends actually |
| 00:31.09 | nsadmin | thewanderer1, don't you have build-essential installed? |
| 00:31.14 | MindWarper | yes my lord dondelelcaro |
| 00:31.15 | thewanderer1 | nsadmin: no, I don't |
| 00:31.34 | nsadmin | oh, well that would be one way to get at least gnu ld |
| 00:31.51 | thewanderer1 | I somehow supposed that fpc-compiler would depend on ld since it needs it to actually run |
| 00:32.31 | nsadmin | shouldn't need it to run, just to build executables |
| 00:32.42 | sedulous | is there a place to host debian repositories for free, much like launchpad.net? |
| 00:32.50 | thewanderer1 | gcc-4.4 depends on binutils (with ld), while fpc does not |
| 00:32.58 | thewanderer1 | (er fp-compiler does not) |
| 00:33.01 | h3sp4wn | sedulous: Can you not just host repo's for Debian there ? |
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| 00:33.17 | dondelelcaro | thewanderer1: yeah, but because it's a pascal compiler, it doesn't necessarily need a linker |
| 00:33.22 | sedulous | h3sp4wn: I don't know. Their homepage says "Ubuntu package building and hosting". |
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| 00:33.27 | Alex-Scott | !ops FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! Alex-Scott xiangfu Martinp23 Sunblade ajikeshi Matic`Makovec buntfalke fr33k puty pipegeek DeathNostril preller \13k nhandler izibi davidrussell un214 Hut paradigm AimHere fandrinkle peregrinator_six Soothsayer su |
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| 00:33.27 | Alex-Scott | !ops FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! dzup2 Cibort Sevalecpp taras Havis jmccune jjman6_ red-paladin xtr digitalmortician brammat1r brammator Arm zeroheroDeb Agiofws Italian_Plumber1 MattWB valdyn me345 usn NightMonkey Surf Asen-Ger tmw Bhavic pierrep |
| 00:33.27 | Alex-Scott | !ops FREENODE STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THIS CHANNEL IS OFF TOPIC AND IS TO BE MOVED TO ##POLITICS IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE MOVE TO ##POLITICS BEFORE WE /CLOSE CHANNEL AND PUT THE CHANNEL FORWARD IN EFFECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! faitz carandraug Biolunar githogori p0g0 nsadmin CompWizrd mavhc bier jelly-home matt_o dimir jonmasters zwox SQlvpapir sylarr do0ob bas hydra nick_h Shadur karsten stockholm GhostInTheShell claw steffen- bzed jul |
| 00:33.34 | MindWarper | MF |
| 00:33.40 | SQlvpapir | enough already |
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| 00:33.52 | thewanderer1 | dondelelcaro: hm, I thought it would, since when I ran `fpc lol.pas`, it spit out an error... |
| 00:33.52 | DeathNostril | Running squeeze beta -- cannot find google earth in the package repository. I have deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ testing main non-free in sources list... Running amd64 - any ideas? |
| 00:33.57 | nsadmin | they;'re getting clever |
| 00:34.00 | MindWarper | thats it im going to OFTC |
| 00:34.04 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 00:34.05 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@2.82.47.68] by dondelelcaro |
| 00:34.05 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 00:34.43 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: sounds like a bug |
| 00:34.51 | Soothsayer | what on earth is happening? |
| 00:34.56 | Soothsayer | channel off topic ? |
| 00:35.00 | thewanderer1 | well, so it does to me, but I wanted to make sure with someone who might know better |
| 00:35.04 | dondelelcaro | Soothsayer: ignore it. It's just spam. |
| 00:35.09 | rysiek|pl | wtf with the "channel off-topic" shite |
| 00:35.16 | rysiek|pl | ah |
| 00:35.41 | Soothsayer | i see.. what is he promoting, the politics channel ? |
| 00:35.55 | un214 | he's promoting being obnoxious |
| 00:36.00 | dondelelcaro | Soothsayer: who cares? it's spam. |
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| 00:37.11 | pzn | which package can I use to "encode" a video? I have lots of "bmp" files and want to generate an avi/mpeg with 30 frames/second |
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| 00:37.56 | DeathNostril | pzn: ffmpeg can do that |
| 00:38.49 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
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| 00:39.08 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 00:39.16 | DeathNostril | pzn: ffmpeg -r 30 -i ./%8d.png -b 8000k ./output.avi <- %8d.png for 8.3 filename such as 00000001.png -- could also be used likescene-%5d.png and so on. |
| 00:40.13 | Soothsayer | i normally use aptitude, but this one required me to use dpkg |
| 00:40.17 | Soothsayer | if i did a "dpkg -i ruby-enterprise_1.8.7-2009.10_amd64.deb" |
| 00:40.24 | Soothsayer | what would i have to use to uninstall ? |
| 00:40.34 | un214 | dpkg -r ruby-enterprise |
| 00:40.34 | dpkg | removes ruby-enterprise along with a pound of flesh from un214's body, then staples un214 back up with a staple gun. |
| 00:40.35 | dondelelcaro | Soothsayer: aptitude remove ruby-enterprise; |
| 00:40.53 | un214 | who set that up? |
| 00:41.05 | pzn | DeathNostril, really nice, worked as expected! |
| 00:41.12 | Soothsayer | dondelelcaro: oh, thanks |
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| 00:41.30 | un214 | regenerates |
| 00:41.36 | un214 | eats dpkg for lunch |
| 00:42.11 | ajikeshi | wtf is are those tards doin? |
| 00:42.34 | pzn | DeathNostril, just didn't like that one thin green line became white... but that is jpeg compression fault... |
| 00:42.35 | un214 | hanging pronoun "those" |
| 00:42.39 | jelly-home | un214: (if you mean the answer to -r...) /msg dpkg factinfo CMD: -r (.*?) |
| 00:42.59 | DeathNostril | or try upping the datarate to 16000 |
| 00:43.02 | DeathNostril | not sure if that would help |
| 00:43.22 | pzn | DeathNostril, already tried, it didn't help. it is a 1pixel thin line |
| 00:44.36 | un214 | probably an mpg compression fault |
| 00:44.49 | un214 | mpg has a bit of trouble with colors of 1px lines |
| 00:45.00 | DeathNostril | yeah probably.. |
| 00:45.38 | un214 | especially since the original target platform was color tv which can't display that right anwyay |
| 00:46.08 | pzn | I'll increase my video markers to 2 pixel width :-) |
| 00:46.19 | thewanderer1 | you could try MJPEG too, if your clients support that |
| 00:46.24 | un214 | If I understand the artificat you'll need 3 |
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| 00:47.12 | un214 | maybe better if they support mng but most don't yet |
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| 00:50.29 | irieKEN | Anyone know why Skype and Google Talk (web based) voice chat would cause my eth0 LAN connection to drop whenever I start a call? |
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| 00:50.56 | thewanderer1 | irieKEN: firewall? |
| 00:51.50 | thewanderer1 | or perhaps hardware problems... try `ping -f` or some network-intensive applications to rule this out |
| 00:52.13 | nsadmin | careful where you aim that pinger... |
| 00:52.25 | thewanderer1 | sure, try between trusted hosts only |
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| 00:52.42 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: Gnome reports that the network connection has dropped at the interface... and I believe it. |
| 00:53.11 | thewanderer1 | have you checked with ping during that event? |
| 00:53.20 | irieKEN | Yeah... Sure enough, all goes dark. |
| 00:53.39 | thewanderer1 | alright, got another computer and a cross-over cable? |
| 00:54.12 | nsadmin | or a hub and a noncrossover cable |
| 00:55.22 | nsadmin | if all goes dark, supplement your eyelid-lifting muscle with performance-enhancing drugs... |
| 00:55.24 | thewanderer1 | if GNOME reports it, it's likely that it comes from n-m which listens to system events, which would in turn mark a Layer 1 problem |
| 00:55.31 | irieKEN | Thewanderer: Unortunately, I don't have either readily available... |
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| 00:55.45 | thewanderer1 | irieKEN: okay, can you look at the switch to which you are connected? |
| 00:56.09 | irieKEN | Thewanderer1: I'm remoted into the machine, but I can look at it when I get home. |
| 00:56.42 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: To the best of my knowledge, the connectivity light does turn off when Skype call starts, but I'll have to double-check that. |
| 00:56.57 | thewanderer1 | irieKEN: do you see any "link down" messages in dmesg? |
| 00:57.11 | thewanderer1 | or link up, for that matter |
| 00:57.18 | nsadmin | , info policykit |
| 00:57.20 | judd | Package policykit (admin, optional) in lenny/i386: framework for managing administrative policies and privileges. Version: 0.9-2; Size: 127.2k; Installed: 420k; Homepage: http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/ |
| 00:57.25 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: Yep: Link down, link up , link down, link up, whenever skype call or google talk session starts. |
| 00:57.34 | thewanderer1 | irieKEN: then it's your NIC or the switch |
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| 00:58.33 | thewanderer1 | irieKEN: is that your personal LAN only? can you broadcast large amounts of data and see what happens? |
| 00:58.56 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: That's what I'd thought, but this machine doesn't go down at any other time... |
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| 00:59.12 | thewanderer1 | (saying broadcast because I can think of no other destination to send data to than 255.255.255.255) |
| 00:59.45 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: I've tried two switches. and I have the same issue in both cases (Linksys and a Netgear). |
| 01:00.10 | thewanderer1 | alright... can you broadcast some data into the network now? |
| 01:00.28 | thewanderer1 | or send any other data, for that matter, but it has to be huge and non-offensive... |
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| 01:00.44 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: I suppose that I can. What command/util should I use for generating the traffic? |
| 01:02.02 | thewanderer1 | you could try sth like `ping -f -b 255.255.255.255 -I eth0` where eth0 is your LAN iface - WARNING: this will trigger every IDS in your network :) |
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| 01:04.04 | irieKEN | Yeah, figured that it would. |
| 01:04.21 | irieKEN | There's a file transfer from the machine right now, so I'll have to wait until later. |
| 01:04.49 | thewanderer1 | is that a "smart" switch or just an unmanaged one? |
| 01:06.23 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: Unmanaged. |
| 01:07.17 | thewanderer1 | alright, then it won't stop the test with "broadcast storm control" features |
| 01:07.33 | thewanderer1 | also observe all status indicators and lights |
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| 01:08.20 | irieKEN | I can't observe the lights, because I am doing this remotely... |
| 01:08.26 | irieKEN | But the connection didn't go down. |
| 01:08.41 | thewanderer1 | tried with flood broadcast ping now? |
| 01:08.59 | irieKEN | dYeah. |
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| 01:10.40 | thewanderer1 | irieKEN: try any other UDP applications... DNS is not enough I suppose |
| 01:10.54 | thewanderer1 | perhaps netcat a huge file over UDP or sth |
| 01:11.22 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: I'll try that when I get home. |
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| 01:19.02 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: UDP transfer does not seem to be an issue... Bittorrent plays nice, and saturated my WAN connection quite nicely:) |
| 01:19.48 | thewanderer1 | does BitTorrent use UDP? |
| 01:19.58 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: Yep. |
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| 01:20.23 | thewanderer1 | hm, no idea then, really... check with some other NIC when you get home |
| 01:21.21 | thewanderer1 | you might also want to try that netcat UDP transfer, too, to rule that out definitely, since I am not really convinced that BitTorrent operates on UDP... |
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| 01:22.42 | thewanderer1 | (most Google results, along with Wikipedia, mention TCP only, with just some client-specific UDP stuff) |
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| 01:23.47 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: Meh, connects to asterisk server via ekiga without issue:S |
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| 01:24.05 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: I wonder what Google Talk and Skype do that this machine hates so much. |
| 01:24.08 | thewanderer1 | this is admittedly the strangest networking issue I've seen |
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| 01:24.35 | thewanderer1 | you might want to take precise timings using strace and correlate that with dmesg |
| 01:24.35 | irieKEN | thewanderer1: At least I'm not the only one; somoene had the same problem on the LinuxMint forums. |
| 01:24.40 | thewanderer1 | O.o |
| 01:24.56 | thewanderer1 | tell me you're not running anything from Skype or Google as root... |
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| 01:26.25 | irieKEN | Nope... It's in user land. |
| 01:26.36 | thewanderer1 | hm, one thing I can think of is capturing and replaying the network traffic via some tool |
| 01:26.43 | irieKEN | Argh... |
| 01:26.53 | irieKEN | Well, I give up for now. Thank you for your help:) |
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| 01:27.23 | thewanderer1 | be sure to get down to tcpreplay when you feel adventurous :D |
| 01:28.35 | irieKEN | Will do:) |
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| 01:42.52 | pzn | DeathNostril, mpeg compression worked ok with 2pixel width lines... now everything is OK. |
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| 01:53.59 | _kito_ | hey, i'm having a lot of iowait since yesterday, how can i detect where it is coming from? |
| 01:56.39 | Jarvis | _kito_: try usin iotop |
| 01:56.52 | Jarvis | it should show you whihc process if any is using the most io |
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| 02:05.44 | _kito_ | Jarvis: it seems mysql is doing a lot of work |
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| 02:06.37 | Jarvis | _kito_: grab a processlist from it |
| 02:06.47 | Jarvis | mysqladim processlist -p |
| 02:06.51 | Jarvis | *mysqladmin |
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| 02:12.34 | _kito_ | yeah, there are like 10 open connections.. not too much |
| 02:12.44 | _kito_ | Jarvis: some of them are "Copying to tmp table" |
| 02:13.39 | Jarvis | low on memory ? |
| 02:14.24 | _kito_ | i don't think so.. free -m gives me used: 1162 free: 840 |
| 02:14.36 | _kito_ | buffers: 3 cached: 59 |
| 02:14.57 | _kito_ | total: 2003 |
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| 02:52.29 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 02:52.40 | ZenWalker | where is "alsaconf" command? what package? |
| 02:53.18 | dvs | alsa-utils |
| 02:53.22 | Arrowmaster | !alsaconf |
| 02:53.23 | dpkg | alsaconf is a formerly included <ALSA> configuration tool to detect sound cards. Removed from the alsa-utils package at version 1.0.17-1: "The only valid use-case for alsaconf is aiding the configuration of ISA sound cards." Ask me about <install alsa>, <alsa checklist>, <default alsa>. See also http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-alsa/trunk/alsa-utils/debian/NEWS |
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| 02:56.48 | ZenWalker | thanks |
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| 03:02.08 | ZenWalker | any command similar of alsaconf, on squeeze? |
| 03:02.37 | dvs | !wayttd ZenWalker |
| 03:02.37 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, ZenWalker? |
| 03:03.00 | ZenWalker | bufff, my english is poor, I am spanish |
| 03:03.06 | un214 | alsamixer? |
| 03:04.03 | ZenWalker | the volume goes down auto, and all the volumes on alsamixer are up |
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| 03:08.12 | Arrowmaster | !alsa checklist |
| 03:08.12 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
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| 03:09.15 | its-me-again | hi all how do i edit the boot manager i want to use a different boot image background startup manager dont have that in it |
| 03:09.27 | ZenWalker | alsa force-reload |
| 03:09.35 | ZenWalker | r00lz |
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| 03:11.43 | its-me-again | hello that not it either ZenWalker |
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| 03:13.41 | its-me-again | r00lz |
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| 03:18.20 | ZenWalker | its-me-again: I dont understand you, but my problem is solved :) |
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| 03:22.52 | its-me-again | ZenWalker: its ok i was asking a question myself |
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| 03:24.27 | dvs | its-me-again: I'm guessing it's /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme |
| 03:24.53 | its-me-again | i want to change the boot splash image |
| 03:25.22 | its-me-again | dvs might be that to thanks |
| 03:27.44 | ZenWalker | thanks all |
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| 03:31.13 | minsa | boo on squeeze broken ? |
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| 03:35.11 | its-me-again | hi how to find uuid of partitions on hdd |
| 03:37.34 | dvs | its-me-again: /dev/disk/by-uuid |
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| 03:38.30 | its-me-again | hi how to find uuid of partitions on hdd dvs is that a terminal comand |
| 03:39.06 | dvs | its-me-again: it's a dir |
| 03:39.54 | its-me-again | dvs: no good dont get partition i need /dev/sda1 etc so i knwo what partition it is refering to. |
| 03:40.05 | its-me-again | there is a terminal comand to give info i cant remember it |
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| 03:40.20 | its-me-again | dvs: terminal comands are easier to work out |
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| 03:41.29 | its-me-again | so dvs you need to understadn terminal comands too |
| 03:43.21 | its-me-again | dvs: fdisk -l is the comand i wanted |
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| 03:44.46 | dvs | its-me-again: that doesnt show me the uuid |
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| 03:46.07 | its-me-again | no it dont here either no i tryed it |
| 03:46.18 | its-me-again | there is a similar comand it might on ubuntu though |
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| 03:47.26 | its-me-again | dvs: this looks better blkid |
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| 03:50.00 | simplechat | Hey guys, i'm wondering if anybody here has had any experience with compiling up a grsecurity kernel? |
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| 04:38.29 | froggyman | how do I set debian to not require a password on login and so that it just logs into the one account automatically |
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| 04:39.40 | dondelelcaro | froggyman: you generally do not want that, but it can be arranged depending on your DM |
| 04:39.50 | dondelelcaro | (or it can be done without using a DM at all) |
| 04:39.56 | froggyman | DM? |
| 04:40.08 | dondelelcaro | !dm |
| 04:40.08 | dpkg | DM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session. <xdm>, <gdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, login.app and <slim> are all examples of display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM. Or Debian Maintainer: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer |
| 04:40.30 | froggyman | I see no reason not to have it log me on automatically as this computer just stays in my house |
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| 04:41.15 | froggyman | dondelelcaro, I have no idea what DM i'm using... Whatever the default one is I guess |
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| 04:43.16 | dondelelcaro | froggyman: the default is probably gdm, but it depends on what options you selecte and what DVD you used to install. |
| 04:43.34 | froggyman | I used the netinstall |
| 04:43.56 | Arrowmaster | System->Administration->Login Window |
| 04:44.00 | Arrowmaster | should be in there somewhere |
| 04:44.24 | froggyman | Arrowmaster, thanks! I actually just found that too |
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| 04:45.24 | froggyman | restarts to try it out |
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| 04:48.51 | Big_Brother | So guys... everytime i install debian (with a different CD (netinst) or even the full array of the DVDs), i get error 17. 2 disks, first main boot drive and an NTFS drive for movies between computers. |
| 04:48.56 | Big_Brother | Any ideas? |
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| 04:55.25 | nirazio | Firefox on my system can not connect to http://docs.jquery.com. When I try the same address in SeaMonkey, on the same system, it works perfectly...Why?? |
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| 05:03.48 | nirazio | Firefox on my system can not connect to http://docs.jquery.com. When I try the same address in SeaMonkey, on the same system, it works perfectly...Why?? |
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| 05:12.03 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Try changing the boot order, you may be booting from an old broken grub install on the data drive. |
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| 05:12.25 | Big_Brother | Jordan_U: along with a fresh install comes a new GRUB install as well. |
| 05:12.52 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Yes, but grub could have been installed to either drive, and your BIOS may be booting from either drive. |
| 05:13.51 | Big_Brother | One contains the boot information, the other contains media (video) |
| 05:14.29 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Just because it doesn't have any grub files doesn't mean it can't have a grub boot sector and stage2/core.img. |
| 05:15.14 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: In fact it's possible that you have a working grub install on the data drive, and a left over broken one on the debian drive. |
| 05:16.09 | Big_Brother | Are you saying i should remove the media drive ? |
| 05:17.38 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: I'm saying that whatever the boot order is currently, try switching it. |
| 05:17.56 | Big_Brother | CD -> HDD -> USB Drive |
| 05:18.28 | Jordan_U | Then try CD -> USB Drive -> HDD. |
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| 05:26.40 | Big_Brother | Booting into GParted, maybe the /dev/ has changed. |
| 05:27.02 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: What version of Debian did you install? |
| 05:27.14 | Big_Brother | Squeeze. |
| 05:27.23 | Big_Brother | Because the same thing happened with Lenny. |
| 05:27.53 | Jordan_U | Then you're definitely not booting from the drive squeeze installed grub to. "error 17" is a grub legacy error, squeeze uses grub2. |
| 05:28.09 | Big_Brother | I am. |
| 05:28.13 | Big_Brother | Same drive. |
| 05:28.28 | Big_Brother | Maybe i should remove /home |
| 05:29.08 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: This has nothing to do with /home, and you are definitely not booting from the drive whose boot sector grub was installed to. |
| 05:29.26 | Big_Brother | I am. |
| 05:29.34 | Jordan_U | Trust me on this one :) |
| 05:29.37 | Big_Brother | The drive is a Samsung 500GB. |
| 05:29.54 | Big_Brother | I set to boot from Samsung 50H- something. |
| 05:30.00 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: If you want to see what bootloaders are installed where you can run boot info script: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ |
| 05:30.13 | Big_Brother | The other drive is a WD 640GB. |
| 05:32.55 | Big_Brother | How do you expect me to run a bash script on a system that i cannot boot in to ? |
| 05:33.35 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Do you have a LiveCD? |
| 05:33.44 | Big_Brother | Of ubuntu |
| 05:33.46 | Big_Brother | Somewhere |
| 05:33.53 | Jordan_U | That works. |
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| 05:34.43 | IdleOne | getting a error 15 from grub2. |
| 05:34.58 | laurus | Can anyone recommend a free SIP provider that works with Empathy? |
| 05:35.15 | Big_Brother | Or not... |
| 05:35.22 | Big_Brother | Lemme burn another. |
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| 05:35.52 | IdleOne | Jordan_U, you got a nice howto recover from error 15? |
| 05:36.49 | Jordan_U | IdleOne: Like with Big_Brother, "error 15" is a grub legacy error, so the drive you're booting from doesn't have grub2 installed to its mbr. |
| 05:36.51 | rafuch0 | hi guys quick question the terminals /dev/tty2 .. tty3 tty4 tty5 can be access by network or those terminals are local use only ??? |
| 05:37.19 | dondelelcaro | rafuch0: those are physical terminals on the machine |
| 05:37.30 | IdleOne | Jordan_U, I just did a upgrade from lenny to squeeze and thought I did chose to install grub2 |
| 05:38.02 | Jordan_U | IdleOne: Follow this guide to install grub2 from a LiveCD: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide |
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| 05:38.19 | IdleOne | thank you |
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| 05:38.49 | Jordan_U | IdleOne: After you've done that make sure that you run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to be sure that the grub-pc packaging is set to install grub to the correct place on upgrades. |
| 05:39.50 | Jordan_U | IdleOne: You're welcome. |
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| 05:41.59 | rafuch0 | dondelelcaro: soo local use only right? cannot be acces by ssh for example ... becouse i know that ssh can log on to /dev/pts/1 ... or 2 or 3 but just what to make sure |
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| 05:42.15 | rafuch0 | *want |
| 05:43.17 | IdleOne | Jordan_U, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error |
| 05:43.34 | dondelelcaro | rafuch0: what are you trying to do? |
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| 05:43.45 | Jordan_U | IdleOne: If the installed system is 64 bit then the LiveCD you use needs to be also. |
| 05:44.03 | laurus | Does anyone know if Ekiga development is dead or not? |
| 05:44.12 | IdleOne | Jordan_U, k |
| 05:44.53 | rafuch0 | dondelelcaro: nothing just asking if those /dev/tty can be accesed by a network whit programs like ssh telnet rsh etc etc.... |
| 05:44.58 | Jordan_U | IdleOne: If the liveCD has grub2 on it then you can use grub-install from the liveCD (using the --root-directory option) but a chroot is recommended. |
| 05:46.10 | IdleOne | so i would grub-install --root-directory /dev/sdX ? |
| 05:46.19 | IdleOne | replacing the X of course |
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| 05:46.43 | dondelelcaro | rafuch0: not easily, no. |
| 05:46.54 | dondelelcaro | rafuch0: however, if you have root access, you can access anything on the machine |
| 05:47.20 | rafuch0 | off course ... well thanks.. :D |
| 05:48.33 | Jordan_U | IdleOne: mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/; grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX |
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| 06:13.28 | froggyman | why doesn't the wobbly windows effect work for me? I have installed Compiz and enabled it in the settings |
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| 06:22.37 | Jordan_U | froggyman: Is compiz actually running? |
| 06:23.07 | froggyman | I'm not sure |
| 06:23.30 | Jordan_U | froggyman: Try running "compiz --replace". |
| 06:24.42 | froggyman | oh, that did the trick |
| 06:25.05 | froggyman | how can i have compiz be set to default then over metacity |
| 06:25.06 | froggyman | ? |
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| 06:31.08 | Arrowmaster | froggyman: echo "export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/compiz" >> ~/.gnomerc |
| 06:31.14 | Arrowmaster | assuming you are using gnome |
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| 06:31.24 | froggyman | I am using gnome |
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| 06:33.05 | froggyman | Arrowmaster, thanks again |
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| 06:59.50 | elik | Say I ssh -X to a server, then start a X application from the command line. If I close the application, I get my prompt back, but if I log out, I need to ctrl-c to get my local prompt back |
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| 07:02.38 | dondelelcaro | elik: because ssh stays running with the forwarded X connection |
| 07:03.00 | dondelelcaro | elik: you have to close the X application, then logout. |
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| 07:04.59 | elik | dondelelcaro: but I did close the X application |
| 07:05.12 | elik | at least enough to get my remote prompt back |
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| 07:07.14 | elik | dondelelcaro: also, I really need to ctrl-c after logging out from remote host (after ctrl-d) |
| 07:07.26 | elik | dondelelcaro: if I ctrl-c before, it still "hangs" on ctrl-d |
| 07:07.40 | dondelelcaro | elik: becaues you're sending the C-c to the shell, not ssh. |
| 07:08.32 | dondelelcaro | elik: if you want to see precisely what is going on, <enter>~# and ssh will list the currently forwarded connections |
| 07:09.08 | dondelelcaro | elik: it's possible that whatever application you started and stopped is still maintaining a connection to the forwarded connection (or you're using ssh multiplexing, or something else) |
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| 07:10.15 | elik | dondelelcaro: what's that <enter>~# thing? |
| 07:10.19 | dondelelcaro | elik: man ssh |
| 07:10.38 | dondelelcaro | elik: and read about ESCAPE CHARACTERS. |
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| 07:11.40 | elik | dondelelcaro: yeah, I found ~ was the default escape character |
| 07:11.58 | dondelelcaro | elik: and what else? |
| 07:12.28 | elik | dondelelcaro: I'll read some more, I should have penty to find answers to my question |
| 07:12.32 | elik | dondelelcaro: thx for the pointers |
| 07:13.02 | dondelelcaro | hint: ~# List forwarded connections. |
| 07:14.04 | elik | dondelelcaro: right |
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| 07:14.17 | elik | dondelelcaro: I can't get ssh to pick up ~ as an escape character though |
| 07:14.26 | elik | dondelelcaro: and I don't have any .ssh/config |
| 07:14.58 | dondelelcaro | elik: probably because you missed this bit: "The escape character must always follow a newline to be interpreted as special." |
| 07:15.10 | dondelelcaro | elik: hence why I said <enter>~# |
| 07:15.23 | elik | dondelelcaro: no, I picked that up |
| 07:15.40 | dondelelcaro | elik: then <enter>~# will show you the forwarded connections if you type it while ssh is connected |
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| 07:16.20 | elik | dondelelcaro: it worked this time, I must have done that sequence wrong previously |
| 07:16.23 | elik | thanks |
| 07:17.17 | dondelelcaro | np; if X is connected, you'll see something like #2 x11 (t4 r3 i0/0 o0/0 fd 8/8 cc -1) |
| 07:17.33 | elik | dondelelcaro: now I see that this application (picard, a qt application), opens 3 x11 connections, but only closes 1 |
| 07:17.43 | dondelelcaro | elik: yerp, not terribly surprising |
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| 07:18.52 | elik | dondelelcaro: I don't know enough about x forwarding for it to make sense to me :P |
| 07:19.24 | elik | but it feels good to be "normal" :) |
| 07:19.41 | dondelelcaro | elik: it's nothing different from how X works localy; you just have an intervening transport layer. |
| 07:19.45 | dondelelcaro | (this is the beauty of X) |
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| 07:20.29 | elik | dondelelcaro: well then, I don't know enough about X altogether |
| 07:21.46 | elik | but yeah, I know that the remote x part is seemless, as you what you see on the screen is always through a x client that connects to the x server on the same machine |
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| 07:27.05 | JyZyXEL | do partitions need to be aligned on a 4k physical sector disk in md use? |
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| 07:28.11 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: no |
| 07:29.03 | JyZyXEL | dondelelcaro: because? |
| 07:32.09 | Big_Brother | Jordan_U: you still here? |
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| 07:32.56 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Yes. |
| 07:33.05 | Big_Brother | http://pastebin.com/qwFbF82W |
| 07:33.55 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: That's after a a lenny install? |
| 07:34.17 | Big_Brother | A Squeeze install. |
| 07:35.16 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: "Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 5.0", and also only grub legacy is installed. |
| 07:36.39 | Big_Brother | If that's what the netinst installed, then i guess so. |
| 07:37.26 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Try installing testing/squeeze, and just to make things simpler have the data drive unplugged during the install. |
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| 07:37.34 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: because it doesn't matter. |
| 07:37.51 | Big_Brother | Jordan_U: is there a way to re-install GRUB? |
| 07:38.01 | JyZyXEL | dondelelcaro: hows so? |
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| 07:38.16 | dondelelcaro | JyZyXEL: there are all kinds of reasons to have the slice size be a multiple of the physical sector size when you are doing raid0, but it's not a requirement at all |
| 07:38.33 | Jordan_U | JyZyXEL: dondelelcaro: It can matter for performance. |
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| 07:39.05 | JyZyXEL | it gets really complicated when there are so many layers of stuff on top of the physical disk |
| 07:39.37 | JyZyXEL | and every layer has its chunk sizes and stripes and strides and god knows what |
| 07:39.54 | Jordan_U | dondelelcaro: I recommend aligning on 1 MiB, just because that way you should have optimal alignment no matter what disk you use and 1 MiB of unpartitioned space is cheap. |
| 07:40.34 | dondelelcaro | Jordan_U: that makes assumptions about the underlying disk architecture which may be incorrect |
| 07:40.44 | elik | JyZyXEL: been there, done that :) |
| 07:40.50 | Jordan_U | dondelelcaro: Like? |
| 07:40.51 | elik | JyZyXEL: to be honest, it is a bit of a mess |
| 07:41.00 | JyZyXEL | yea no kidding |
| 07:41.17 | Jordan_U | dondelelcaro: Also, d-i (at least in testing) is very good at choosing optimal alignment. |
| 07:41.36 | dondelelcaro | Jordan_U: yes, the partitioning tools are far better than assigning an arbitrary alignment scheme |
| 07:41.49 | elik | Jordan_U: d-i? |
| 07:41.58 | Jordan_U | elik: Debian Installer |
| 07:42.01 | dondelelcaro | Jordan_U: any disk which uses larger sectors, or doesn't use sectors at all, for example. |
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| 07:42.43 | elik | JyZyXEL: and that's even without considering the layers of history |
| 07:42.52 | dondelelcaro | or a case where a disk had an offset which was not a multiple of 1 MiB |
| 07:43.02 | Jordan_U | dondelelcaro: I've never heard of a disk that uses greater than 1 MiB sectors, and if it doesn't use sectors at all then aligning to 1 MiB will still not be suboptimal. |
| 07:43.26 | homie | are usb voltage levels different in newer kernels ? |
| 07:43.30 | Arrowmaster | Jordan_U: aligning to 1 MiB in a raid would be bad |
| 07:44.53 | homie | or will plugging a usb scanner on a usb-hub will have any lowering effect on voltage-levels compared to plugging it on some usb-port on the chassis of the pc ? |
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| 07:45.16 | homie | hmmmm |
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| 07:46.30 | adarnimrod_ | homei: a non-powered usb hub will share the voltage it has from the pc to all devices. |
| 07:47.03 | elik | homie: are you sure the kernel has anything to do with the usb voltage at all? |
| 07:47.04 | JyZyXEL | Jordan_U: why 1 MiB why not 64 KiB |
| 07:47.10 | elik | homie: other than turning it on or off |
| 07:47.13 | homie | oh oh, so on a 4-port hub it will be 1/4 of the actual voltage ? |
| 07:47.22 | elik | homie: no |
| 07:47.41 | elik | homie: voltage stays the same, but more current is drawn |
| 07:47.50 | Jordan_U | JyZyXEL: Because 1 MiB is a multiple of almost all sector sizes. |
| 07:47.51 | elik | homie: it sounds like you have an actual issue but are trying to hide it |
| 07:48.05 | homie | the problem is scanner-head is not moving |
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| 07:48.26 | homie | it just stays where it is, and nothing is blocked here |
| 07:48.40 | Big_Brother | Jordan_U: (hd0,0) not (hd1,0). :< |
| 07:48.48 | homie | i mean nothing like the device lock's on the scanner |
| 07:49.02 | homie | err, manual locks i mean |
| 07:49.19 | elik | homie: and are you sure this scanner works? |
| 07:49.32 | Jordan_U | Arrowmaster: Why? Have you used any raid with a stripe size that 1 MiB is not a multiple of? Is there some other issue? |
| 07:49.48 | homie | and i didn't move the device anywhere, yes it is working normally, and with the stable version of debian everything works, just in testing it is not working... |
| 07:49.54 | homie | and on SuSE it fails too... |
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| 07:50.01 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: I don't understand what you're trying to say. |
| 07:50.33 | JyZyXEL | a visual representation of the alignment is often the best tool to understand it |
| 07:50.43 | Big_Brother | Jordan_U: i changed "root (hd1,0)" to "root (hd0,0)" and it's booting in right now. |
| 07:51.13 | JyZyXEL | but i've only seen ones with the disk and filesystem |
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| 07:51.21 | Arrowmaster | Jordan_U: yes from what i understand in a raid you want to skip stripe_size*effective_usable_drive_count and start the partition on that point |
| 07:51.23 | elik | homie: and what lead you on the usb voltage track? |
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| 07:51.49 | homie | that i hear the scanner voice, but no movement ? |
| 07:51.52 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: You should upgrade to squeeze then grub2 (in that order). GRUB2 uses uuids so problems like this don't happen. |
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| 07:52.26 | homie | it says something is locked, and actually nothing is blocked here.... |
| 07:52.34 | homie | err, locked...yeah |
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| 07:53.58 | homie | ok i have to forget the scanner for a while, and get a stable version installed again, to get it going i think.... |
| 07:54.19 | Jordan_U | http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/advice.html#alignment << Probably the best description and recommendations for alignment. |
| 07:54.26 | elik | homie: well, I don't have a scanner so I can't really help you on that |
| 07:54.40 | elik | homie: but I can definitely tell you it's not a voltage issue |
| 07:54.48 | homie | thank you though despite..... |
| 07:55.03 | elik | homie: you can always ask more general question about scanners |
| 07:55.11 | elik | homie: somebody might still be able to help you |
| 07:55.23 | homie | k laters then |
| 07:55.49 | elik | homie: just be careful when you ask questions. Sometimes you go on a tangent and it takes time to realize it was actually just one of your assumption of what the problem might have been |
| 07:55.55 | elik | homie: later |
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| 07:56.48 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: If you really want to continue using Lenny rather than Squeeze then you can modify /boot/grub/device.map so that update-grub makes better guesses about device numbers, but it still could change for any number of reasons. |
| 07:57.08 | Big_Brother | Jordan_U: i should be using Squeeze... |
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| 07:57.32 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 07:57.54 | Big_Brother | I will once i can force X into my resolution and refresh rate. |
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| 07:59.47 | elik | Big_Brother: what does X have to do with that? pastebinit |
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| 08:00.25 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 08:00.33 | Big_Brother | Elik: i can't really paste anything without a GUI... and i kinda do wanna use the desktop. |
| 08:01.01 | elik | Big_Brother: ctrl-alt-f1, login, and use the command line tool |
| 08:01.22 | elik | Big_Brother: I mean, do what you want, but that's another convenient way to do it |
| 08:01.36 | peterrooney | !xyproblem |
| 08:01.37 | dpkg | [xyproblem] People often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem or http://homepages.tesco.net/J.deBoynePollard/FGA/put-down-the-chocolate-covered-banana.html |
| 08:01.43 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Best to check the version first, before you spend time working around problems that might be fixed in squeeze. |
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| 08:32.12 | zootallures | if i'm searching for packages on packages.debian.org, how do i know what i need to have in my sources.list file to install the packages i find? |
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| 08:37.24 | adarnimrod_ | zootallures: check that you have the right suite (stable, squeeze, etc.) and the correct section (usually main). |
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| 08:39.04 | Quibus | hi all |
| 08:39.20 | Quibus | Is there any chance that now stable Wine 1.2 would get into the upcoming release? I guess not? |
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| 08:39.57 | Arrowmaster | the maintainer is MIA |
| 08:40.04 | Quibus | darn |
| 08:40.04 | adarnimrod_ | not much after the freeze. |
| 08:41.44 | zootallures | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libncurses5-dev |
| 08:42.00 | Big_Brother | Ack |
| 08:42.17 | Big_Brother | I keep getting stuck at 'detect network hardware' |
| 08:42.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | duh... any of you used flpsed lately... it's eating up everything I write onto the page |
| 08:42.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | and no bug report either |
| 08:43.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's crazy |
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| 08:43.56 | BiG_NoBoDy1 | hello, how are you? Which file should i change that by default my debian box with fluxbox irc:// links (in any browser or email client) open with some script or weechat client? |
| 08:43.56 | Quibus | hm, there seems to be something here: http://www.sk2.org/wine/ |
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| 08:47.09 | Quibus | Too bad you can't use this as repository |
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| 08:49.40 | adarnimrod_ | zootallures: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
| 08:50.27 | zootallures | adarnimrod_: how do you know that is what i need? |
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| 08:51.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | zootallures, it works the other way around, mostly... what version of debian you're using determines to some big extent what your sources.list contains (lenny/squeeze/sid) ... this package is in main - you can also add conrib and non-free to that line... why don't you put your sources.list in a pastebin and show it to us |
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| 08:51.52 | zootallures | because the vm doesn't have guest additions installed :P |
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| 08:53.00 | adarnimrod_ | zootallures: I went to the url, checked what version of Debian has this package version (lenny) and unless it's contrib or non-free, main's the only option. |
| 08:55.27 | Big_Brother | Anyone have an idea about Debian Squeeze installer? there's a looping error about "FAT: utf8 is not a recommended charset for FAT filsystem, filesystem will be case sensitive" |
| 08:55.33 | zootallures | main is in my sources.list |
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| 08:56.38 | cahoot | installing linux to a fat fs? |
| 08:56.43 | Big_Brother | No |
| 08:58.37 | adarnimrod_ | are you mounting any fat partitions? |
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| 08:58.53 | Big_Brother | No |
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| 09:03.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, you must, as this message only appears when you mount FAT |
| 09:04.40 | cahoot | an usb stick involved? |
| 09:04.57 | Big_Brother | A netinst CD. |
| 09:05.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | so the better question is _what_ fat partition are you mounting |
| 09:05.52 | Big_Brother | <adarnimrod_> are you mounting any fat partitions? <Big_Brother> No |
| 09:05.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | also, this is not an error message, but just a warning |
| 09:06.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | <CutMeOwnThroat> well, you must, as this message only appears when you mount FAT |
| 09:06.17 | Big_Brother | Warning or not, it's not continuing. |
| 09:06.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | we can keep quoting each other that way for hours, ya know :) |
| 09:07.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | I realize that.. what I'm saying is, that this might be an unrelated warning |
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| 09:08.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | which doesn't answer the question why any FAT stuff is mounted at all |
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| 09:08.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | so that might be a good idea to figure out |
| 09:08.34 | Big_Brother | There's not fucking FAT system, at all. |
| 09:08.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | but need not necessarily be the reason for the loop |
| 09:09.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, there must be a fucking fat fs, else you couldn't get the fucking warning |
| 09:09.50 | Big_Brother | There's one drive connected to the motherboard, EXT3, EXT2 and SWAP. |
| 09:09.55 | Big_Brother | No FAT filesystem. |
| 09:10.02 | Big_Brother | There's no USB drives either. |
| 09:11.56 | simonrvn | cat /proc/partitions; mount; cat /proc/mounts |
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| 09:12.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, the cd image itself? |
| 09:14.18 | adarnimrod_ | the cd image should be iso9660. |
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| 09:15.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | i know... but can't think of anything else right now |
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| 09:17.40 | xingu | some usb peripherals have a tiny amount of flash for their drivers and whatnot; usb 3g modems in particular, but I've also seen it on usb audio devices (a pair of usb audio headphones recently) |
| 09:18.02 | xingu | these have always been vfat-fs in my experience |
| 09:18.28 | xingu | the other great gotcha is hidden "recovery" parititons; what does dmesg say on the issue? |
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| 09:24.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | what also drives me nuts is inkscape saving things on the last location navigated with inkscape instead of saving them to the directory you loaded the file from |
| 09:24.36 | Big_Brother | Xingu, isn't dmesg essentially what the output of one of the hidden consoles say ? |
| 09:24.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 09:25.14 | Big_Brother | Then what i've said is dmesg. |
| 09:25.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | look earlier on |
| 09:25.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | also, what simonrvn said |
| 09:26.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | or can't you even get into a shell |
| 09:27.22 | Big_Brother | Hmmm... |
| 09:27.41 | xingu | I'm guessing that the scan of block devices and partitions per dmesg will reveal the culprit. |
| 09:27.54 | Big_Brother | fd0: rw=0, want=66, limit=8 |
| 09:27.55 | Big_Brother | ? |
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| 09:28.32 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Do you have a floppy drive? |
| 09:28.55 | Big_Brother | No. |
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| 09:30.03 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: Your motherboard seems to be pretending that you do. I'm not sure why some motherboards do this but it can cause problems. |
| 09:30.32 | Big_Brother | My CD drive is IDE/PATA. |
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| 09:30.58 | sandeepb | how to build debain packages |
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| 09:33.52 | Big_Brother | Jordan_U: some motherboards can't detect a floppy drive apparently. |
| 09:34.03 | Big_Brother | I had to tell mine that there wasn't a floppy drive. |
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| 09:35.37 | Big_Brother | Uhh |
| 09:36.01 | Big_Brother | "The missing firmware files are: rtl18168d.fw" |
| 09:37.21 | Big_Brother | Where do i find this "rtl18168d.fw"? |
| 09:37.48 | Big_Brother | Oh |
| 09:37.50 | Big_Brother | Er |
| 09:37.54 | Big_Brother | Rtl18168d-2.fw |
| 09:38.35 | Jordan_U | Big_Brother: http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 09:40.45 | Big_Brother | Not in the list there. |
| 09:41.52 | simplechat | Hey guys, what happened to openntpd in squeeze |
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| 09:42.40 | grand_grunt | simplechat: Is it a riddle? |
| 09:43.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | simplechat: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=593429 |
| 09:43.11 | simplechat | no, but the package seems to have dissapeared |
| 09:43.49 | simplechat | Kamping_Kaiser, wait, what? |
| 09:44.01 | simplechat | so was openntpd working under lenny? |
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| 09:44.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | simplechat: no idea about lenny, but its not going to be in squeeze unless that bug is fixed |
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| 09:44.32 | simplechat | does standard ntpd work? |
| 09:44.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | i assume so |
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| 09:45.35 | simplechat | why wouldn't openntpd work then? if they are both using the same same system call? |
| 09:45.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | you'd have to ask the maintainer for that |
| 09:46.00 | simplechat | kk |
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| 09:51.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | or read bug #522698? |
| 09:51.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | simplechat, ^^^ |
| 09:53.09 | simplechat | openntpd: segfaults after start on kfreebsd-i386 ? |
| 09:53.14 | simplechat | but i don't use kfreebsd-i386 |
| 09:53.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | I didn't say you do |
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| 09:54.14 | simplechat | Also, is there anything that would cause an update-initramfs to run forever? |
| 09:54.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | what I don't understand, that at least seems to be fixed |
| 09:54.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | I hate it when people mix different bugs in one report |
| 09:54.43 | simplechat | yeah |
| 09:55.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | so it's the adjtime/x issue he quoted that's not really related to that bug... confusing reading |
| 09:55.55 | simplechat | yeah |
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| 09:56.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | but the problems needn't be present on all architectures... |
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| 10:02.29 | ribasushi | where can I see (relative and misleading I know) statistic on how many RCs are remaining before squeeze hits stable? |
| 10:02.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | !rc bugs |
| 10:02.50 | dpkg | Release-Critical bugs are Debian bugs with critical, grave or serious severities, preventing the next release of Debian. See the graph at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ or the lists at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=squeeze&patch=ign&pending=ign&merged=ign&done=ign&rc=1 http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php . See also <rc-alert>. |
| 10:04.05 | ribasushi | CutMeOwnThroat: oh, so may be as soon as jan-feb then? |
| 10:04.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | if enough get marked squeeze-ignore *g* |
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| 10:05.56 | fireba11 | possible causes for grub failing to write boot loader on debian 5.0.4? |
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| 10:08.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | ribasushi, some people thought as soon as christmas... but it always takes longer than one thinks! |
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| 10:09.00 | ribasushi | CutMeOwnThroat: I know that, I release oss stuff too :P |
| 10:09.23 | ribasushi | I was actually surprised the graph is so far down, I was expecting not until summer |
| 10:09.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | ribasushi: it is summer, it started a week ago :p |
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| 10:10.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | ribasushi, not later than Christmas 2011, depend on it! |
| 10:10.38 | ribasushi | Kamping_Kaiser: in the civilized single-resurrected-god fearing parts of the world I meant :) |
| 10:11.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | ribasushi: oh, europe :) |
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| 10:12.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | the "civilized" bit is confusing me... where's that? |
| 10:12.27 | ribasushi | CutMeOwnThroat: iceland |
| 10:14.02 | xingu | ribasushi: the uk based national frozen foods retailer? |
| 10:14.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | do you mean because nobody lives there? |
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| 10:14.31 | ribasushi | CutMeOwnThroat: hey hey now, the volcano didn't wipe out *everyone* |
| 10:15.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, well, sheep can run pretty quickly if they must |
| 10:16.12 | simplechat | I'm having a slight issue. When i run update-grub i see update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 and it sits there forever :( |
| 10:16.18 | simplechat | it spikes one core |
| 10:16.28 | simplechat | it normally takes like 15 seconds, but occasionally it just sits there |
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| 10:18.17 | Jordan_U | simplechat: update-grub shouldn't be running update-initramfs... |
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| 10:18.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | why not? |
| 10:18.46 | fireba11 | any guesses when squeeze will be released? need to reinstall a box and am thinking to already use it so i don't have to upgrade in a few weeks |
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| 10:19.13 | Jordan_U | CutMeOwnThroat: Because update-grub's job is to write /boot/grub/{grub.cfg,menu.lst}, and nothing more. |
| 10:19.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | that stuff is in /etc now, I think |
| 10:20.06 | Jordan_U | fireba11: I'd say "a few weeks" is overly optimistic. |
| 10:20.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: wwsr |
| 10:20.15 | dpkg | Squeeze is now frozen and will release <WIR>, <SIYH>, perhaps by Christmas 2010 if you help ... http://lists.debian.org/20101005202925.GU4622@halon.org.uk. See http://lists.debian.org/20100806134418.GC9183@halon.org.uk and http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20101116b . See also <guess the release date>. |
| 10:20.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | i suspect at this stage that date is a bit optomistic |
| 10:20.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I thought update-grubs job is to give you a bootable system... which would involve re-creating initrd if you made changes to the modules |
| 10:21.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | i think you'll find its to set up grub, not the kernel |
| 10:21.38 | Jordan_U | CutMeOwnThroat: No, update-grub is meant to do what I said and nothing more. |
| 10:22.25 | fireba11 | Kamping_Kaiser: i guess. i'll still go with lenny then :-) now to figure out why grub didn't install ... |
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| 10:23.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | fireba11: btw, named after a plane crash or a hard driv? :) |
| 10:23.20 | fireba11 | Kamping_Kaiser: named after saber rider anime :-D |
| 10:23.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | fireba11: :) |
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| 10:30.26 | fireba11 | okay, the grub problem is caused by gpt partition tables that the lenny installer automatically made. so what can i do to be able to install grub on it? ^^ |
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| 10:32.17 | asdzxc | hi |
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| 10:33.47 | asdzxc | i'm having problems with random loosing of network connectivity on one of our servers. i have several servers connected to the same switch (in the same rack) and one of them is randomly loosing connectivity for about 2 minutes (about 2 times per day). |
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| 10:34.00 | asdzxc | nothing in logs, nothing in dmesg |
| 10:34.17 | asdzxc | server is just unreachable, i cannot even ping it |
| 10:34.18 | fireba11 | asdzxc: tried another port on the switch? :-D |
| 10:34.23 | asdzxc | fireba11: yes |
| 10:36.23 | asdzxc | fireba11: today i'm going to replace network cable and then, if it not helps, try to use second network card. but do you have any other ideas what colud be wrong or how can i find out what's going on ? |
| 10:37.02 | fireba11 | asdzxc: your switch got any monitoring options? so you can see if it drops packets or seomthing on that end of the cable? |
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| 10:38.19 | asdzxc | fireba11: i cannot connect to it, it is rented from our housing provider. but good point, i will try to ask them |
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| 10:40.25 | fireba11 | anyone with tips for my grub/gpt problem? |
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| 10:42.03 | Jordan_U | fireba11: For gpt you should really be using squeeze + grub2, even if it won't be released within the next few weeks :) |
| 10:42.17 | kaste | won't it? |
| 10:42.21 | kaste | when's it due now |
| 10:42.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | !wir |
| 10:42.45 | dpkg | wir is, like, When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
| 10:43.02 | kaste | hmm k |
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| 10:43.12 | Jordan_U | I doubt it but I don't really know. This *is* debian after all :) |
| 10:43.15 | kaste | last i heard they were aiming for christmas |
| 10:43.20 | fireba11 | Jordan_U: ah well ... i could do without GPT since the HDs are 2TB and not > 2TB but i think i'll go with squeeze then |
| 10:43.48 | fireba11 | (and no raid5 or so where i get bigger partitions) |
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| 10:45.22 | Jordan_U | fireba11: Be sure to create a BIOS Boot Partition: http://grub.enbug.org/BIOS_Boot_Partition . If you use Debian Installer's automatic partitioning then one will be created for you automatically. |
| 10:45.29 | kaste | anyway does someone have a good suggestion for a mailman replacement? I looked into a lot of them but the feature lists are abysmal for most of them. I would want one that has an easy web interface for the technically challenged and a complete email interface for more advanced people |
| 10:46.59 | Texou | hi |
| 10:47.02 | fireba11 | Jordan_U: thanks for the hint |
| 10:47.19 | Jordan_U | fireba11: You're welcome. |
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| 10:47.53 | Texou | do you know if it's possible, via pinning maybe, installing libreoffice on lenny via experimental repository? |
| 10:48.02 | fireba11 | Jordan_U: just trying to figure out if i should use the tip to get old partition style manually or simply go with squeeze :-D |
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| 10:49.13 | fireba11 | ah well squeeze is beta2 already so what the heck :-) |
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| 10:49.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | fireba11, that's the installer |
| 10:50.44 | fireba11 | hm .. true |
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| 10:52.29 | Texou | :) seems hard actually |
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| 11:05.16 | nirazio | Dovecot service automatically stopped. How to get rid of this problem? |
| 11:06.41 | petemc | find out whats stopping it |
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| 11:12.11 | complete | Good Morning from Debian! When in Screen, my windows are always called "bash" although I have this in my .bashrc: "PS1="\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1". Why doesnt it work in screen? |
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| 11:13.04 | pielgrzym | hi, I'm looking for secure distribution for lazyasses. For now I use gentoo on my servers, but I can't spend time on things like recompilation of a huge part of system due to gcc update. I know debian is very mature and stable - I've grown out of bleeding edge stuff - I want to do less tinkering around a server |
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| 11:13.32 | pielgrzym | does debian have a tool to make only security updates? |
| 11:13.44 | bloodcry | pielgrzym: Use Fedora. |
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| 11:14.11 | pielgrzym | bloodcry: could you elaborate? |
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| 11:21.46 | fireba11 | CutMeOwnThroat: went with lenny and manually set partition format to oldschool :-) |
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| 11:26.29 | simplechat | Hey guys, is there any way to add a user programatically? |
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| 11:29.09 | xingu | simplechat: you mean some sort of useradd-ing tool? |
| 11:32.23 | simplechat | xingu, yeah, so i can just go addmyuser [confiig options] and have the user added |
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| 11:36.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's called "adduser", no? |
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| 11:42.38 | dokma | Hey guyz, I've just switched my backup to rsync very sucessfully. I've got one issue left. There are some folders in the source of the backup that lack execute flag. rsync cannot create any folders within those. How is this solved? |
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| 11:43.16 | pielgrzym | can I separate security updates from all other "feature" updates on debian? so I could without any effort keep system secure? |
| 11:46.26 | rudi_s | dokma: chmod +x? |
| 11:47.01 | rudi_s | pielgrzym: Use stable, there are no feature updates on stable. |
| 11:47.05 | rudi_s | !tell pielgrzym about stable |
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| 11:47.12 | dokma | rudi_s: the folder in question is /etc/exim4/conf.d and on my installation it lacks +x so I assumed that is the proper way to have it |
| 11:47.14 | pielgrzym | rudi_s: thanks :) |
| 11:47.22 | rudi_s | np |
| 11:47.45 | mbruins | hi, i use gnome for about 3 years now i really like it but, i would like to have a minimalistic desktop enviorment aswell... what window manager is sure to have a future? so my time invested will be wise invested ;x |
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| 11:47.57 | dokma | rudi_s: do you have exim on any of your machines? |
| 11:48.02 | rudi_s | dokma: Hm, it has the +x on my system. |
| 11:48.12 | dokma | rudi_s: interesting.... |
| 11:48.30 | rudi_s | Would be a little stupid without the +x as nobody can use it .. (except the file name is known). |
| 11:48.33 | dokma | is there any way to take a peek at the package and see what is the proper setup? |
| 11:48.49 | dokma | it sounds like that to me as well |
| 11:49.14 | rudi_s | dokma: Download the .deb from packages.debian.org and have a look at it. |
| 11:49.23 | dokma | will do that |
| 11:50.18 | rudi_s | dokma: dpkg -x path-to-deb-file.deb path-to-directory extracts it into the directory. |
| 11:50.43 | dokma | rudi_s: thanks.... I do use vexim with exim so I am wondering if perhaps vexim modified it a bit... |
| 11:51.04 | rudi_s | dokma: Could be possible, never heard of vexim, can't help there, sorry. |
| 11:51.17 | dokma | rudi_s: no problems... you've been very helpful |
| 11:51.24 | rudi_s | ;-) |
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| 12:03.43 | kaste | someone please help me anyway does someone have a good suggestion for a mailman replacement? I looked into a lot of them but the feature lists are abysmal for most of them. I would want â ahri |
| 12:04.05 | kaste | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:04.31 | kaste | i went through all the ones that are in lenny and they are all dead or inadequat |
| 12:04.56 | kaste | I know email sucks a bit by principle but there has to be something |
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| 12:06.45 | kaste | multiple domain support would be a very big plus |
| 12:07.42 | kaste | does anyone use mlmmj or ecartis? I can't really find answers on their website as to support of the features i require |
| 12:08.14 | kaste | maybe even sympa? |
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| 12:18.39 | xand | we use sympa |
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| 12:22.44 | Infin1ty|work | is it possible to install mbstring as a pakcage in php5 in debian? i couldn't find mbstring at any place |
| 12:22.47 | Infin1ty|work | the only way is to recompile ? |
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| 12:26.16 | ov3rmind | nice! morning |
| 12:26.33 | kaste | what is your experience with it xand? |
| 12:26.39 | kaste | can you recommend it? |
| 12:26.54 | kaste | do you use multile domains? |
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| 13:43.47 | hid3 | Hello everyone. How do I route the audio to my Nvidia's HDMI port? |
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| 14:35.15 | thewanderer1 | is there any way I can make an LVM LV available to a user which is not root? specifically, I'm running libvirt and it's unable to access the disk volume |
| 14:35.25 | eldowan | I installed squeeze, after a full system upgrade from lenny. I have a dual head graphics card, and the image is cloned across the screen. Is there a way to extend the picture across both monitors? I know in lenny, I would craft the xorg file. Is the process the same, or is there something new? |
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| 14:35.49 | Aldus | Hi. Noob question: I'm ssh-connected to a server, I want to run a db-writing application that would take several hours completing. How to run that in the background and safely close my ssh session without ending the application? |
| 14:35.56 | thewanderer1 | eldowan: xorg.conf still works. you can use xrandr in runtime as well, but GNOME doesn't always like it :) |
| 14:36.07 | thewanderer1 | Aldus: `screen` |
| 14:36.29 | eldowan | thewanderer1: Thanks, I'm in KDE, so I'll give xrandr a try. Is the path still /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 14:36.42 | Aldus | thewanderer1, like: "screen myapp -param1 -param2" ? |
| 14:36.58 | thewanderer1 | eldowan: yup, but you might need to create it yourself if it doesn't exist |
| 14:37.12 | eldowan | hrm. Thanks for the info, again, thewanderer1 |
| 14:37.14 | thewanderer1 | Aldus: read screen manpage, it has many modes of operation |
| 14:40.18 | abrotman | Aldus: is it already running ? |
| 14:40.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | eldowan, there is gnome-display-properties that does the xrandr stuff for you in gnome (and keeps remembering the setting), I guess there is something similar in kde. You probably still need something like Virtual 3000 2000 in the section screen of an xorg.conf (choose big enough to have enough space for both monitors to fit onto). You can get an xorg.conf calling X -configure |
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| 14:41.10 | eldowan | CutMeOwnThroat: Great, thanks for that command. 2560x1024, but yes. Thanks a lot |
| 14:42.04 | Aldus | abrotman, no. Actually seems like I made it with nohup command |
| 14:42.13 | Aldus | abrotman, so *now* it's running |
| 14:42.28 | abrotman | yes .. either nohup or screen .. screen is usually preferred |
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| 14:45.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | eldowan, also /msg dpkg dualhead for what it's worth... havent read the pages behind the links, though |
| 14:45.15 | alexts | Does anyone know what options fsck uses when run on reboot on an ext3 system? I needed to rebuild dir_index 's indexes and ran a `shudown -rF now` but am not sure if the indexes were rebuilt |
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| 14:49.15 | cahoot | alexts: I guess /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh might tell you |
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| 14:49.44 | alexts | cahoot: gonna have a look at it, brb |
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| 14:50.23 | cahoot | alexts: /var/log/fsck/checkfs might be simpler to view |
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| 14:53.03 | flo` | hi |
| 14:53.23 | flo` | how can i ask apt which files are contained in some .deb-package? |
| 14:53.27 | irieKen | Does anyone know how/why Skype and Google Talk (web) would be able to knock my NIC offline for a moment (dmesg link down, link up)? |
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| 14:54.29 | alexts | cahoot: dammit! no -D option |
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| 14:54.38 | alexts | cahoot: so it doesn't rebuild the indexes |
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| 14:55.19 | alexts | cahoot: the log just mentions last run date. log is not verbose... :( |
| 14:55.44 | xand | flo`: dpkg -L ? |
| 14:55.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | flo`, dpkg -L package if installed, apt-file if in the repo and ... lesspipe automatically selects the right stuff for local debs on my system when I do "less package.deb" |
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| 14:56.10 | flo` | apt-file list doesn't help me, gave me a empty output |
| 14:56.19 | flo` | dpkg -c <filename in apt's cache> helped |
| 14:56.19 | dpkg | drwxr-xr-x root/root 7271 2005-2-27 10:23:59 ./usr/share/<filename in apt's cache> helped/pr0n/ariana.gif |
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| 14:56.39 | flo` | wtf ^^? |
| 14:56.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | the only problem is you didn't say which of that answers your question |
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| 14:57.09 | flo` | i said. dpkg -c |
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| 14:58.12 | hid3 | Any ideas how to route audio to HDMI instead of integrated card? |
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| 14:59.18 | cahoot | http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/DigitalOut |
| 14:59.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | cahoot must be a bot :) |
| 14:59.52 | cahoot | simpleminded |
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| 15:00.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | just seems unlikely someone would sit there with that link ready, just waiting to past it in here |
| 15:00.44 | cahoot | offered it an hour ago |
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| 15:07.00 | hid3 | aplay says file not found even I supply a valid .wav for it |
| 15:07.27 | Quibus | see you later |
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| 15:07.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | strace it |
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| 15:18.58 | alexts | cahoot: indeed there is no -D option in checkroot.fs. Should I add that manually since I'm using ext3 with dir_index? |
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| 16:00.13 | zeitsofa | Hello. I have some trouble with my squeeze and xen4. allways i want to boot the hypervisor the system didn't boot and take a reboot after loading the initrd. if i try with bootargs "noreboot acpi=off noapic" the system will boot. but i need acpi. can anyone help me? |
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| 16:05.18 | LemensTS | Any clue why i can't take an iso, mount it, copy it to file, make it an iso, and boot it? http://pastebin.com/xW2pbWbM |
| 16:05.51 | LemensTS | whoops nm |
| 16:06.02 | LemensTS | pasted wrong thing |
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| 16:12.07 | kaste | probably because you didn't copy the boot rom? |
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| 16:14.52 | DotHack | how can i find out how a package is build? |
| 16:15.03 | DotHack | with what compilie options for instance |
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| 16:16.51 | LemensTS | Any clue why i can't take an iso, mount it, copy it to file, make it an iso, and boot it? http://pastebin.com/jtry4hFq |
| 16:17.29 | kaste | LemensTS: you are missing the boot rom! |
| 16:17.58 | kaste | a boot rom is not part of the filesystem you see when mounting |
| 16:18.40 | kaste | look into mkisofs's man and search for -c and -b |
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| 16:19.10 | LemensTS | kaste: thanks will do! |
| 16:19.32 | kaste | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/cd-roms.html |
| 16:19.42 | kaste | maybe it is located in the fs under boot |
| 16:19.52 | LemensTS | cool :) |
| 16:19.52 | kaste | but you need to specify it again when creating the image |
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| 16:21.29 | kaste | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.45 | kaste | sorry |
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| 16:24.19 | LemensTS | kaste: -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat < wouldnt that be specifying the boot image tho? |
| 16:24.49 | DotHack | Found it! its in the debian/rules file |
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| 16:36.40 | kaste | yes does it not work? |
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| 16:37.04 | kaste | oh sorry |
| 16:37.08 | LemensTS | kaste: nope thats what I had in the pastebin |
| 16:37.09 | kaste | only looked at the first paste |
| 16:37.12 | linusasus6 | hi I just got a question : If I install the debian testing version she will be upgrade to the final version when it would release ? |
| 16:37.21 | LemensTS | yea first pastebin i screwd up ha |
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| 16:38.33 | LemensTS | http://pastebin.com/jtry4hFq thats the 2nd one if you lsot it |
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| 16:42.01 | kaste | what do you need all these switches for LemensTS ? |
| 16:42.07 | kaste | sure they are necessary? |
| 16:42.29 | kaste | especially -J and -boot-info-table seem to have potential for interfering |
| 16:42.37 | LemensTS | kaste: just a line i found on google really |
| 16:42.42 | linusasus6 | hi I just got a question : If I install the debian testing version she will be upgrade to the final version when it would release ? |
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| 16:43.55 | abrotman | linusasus6: yes .. you just make sure your sources point at squeeze |
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| 16:44.15 | linusasus6 | ok thank |
| 16:44.31 | kaste | I'd ditch all these except for -c and -b and see if it works |
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| 16:45.04 | kaste | and reextract these files beforehand |
| 16:45.23 | kaste | if i understand the man page correctly then -boot-info-table destroys the boot rom file |
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| 16:46.03 | LemensTS | kaste: yea i just read that about the boot-info-table, that sounds like the issue |
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| 16:46.37 | DotHack | is the faq : http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html#s-sourcepkgs outdated? because i cant find the package with debuild in it! |
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| 16:47.51 | abrotman | DotHack: which version of debian ? |
| 16:48.01 | DotHack | lenny |
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| 16:48.32 | abrotman | it's in the 'devscripts' package |
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| 16:50.11 | abrotman | !tell DotHack about apt-file |
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| 16:52.50 | DotHack | ah did not read correctly i needed the devscripts file haha |
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| 17:05.49 | arp- | Hello guys, I need start my TFTPD-HPA Service, but run command: sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start , put this error: |
| 17:05.52 | arp- | Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) |
| 17:05.54 | arp- | utility, e.g. service tftpd-hpa start |
| 17:06.13 | LemensTS | kaste: http://pastebin.com/HWFPRuvJ ive tried 3 other mkisofs cmd's, listed at the end... |
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| 17:13.39 | BLZbubba | good morning, i set up squeeze and i'm trying to figure out how to handle fonts |
| 17:13.50 | BLZbubba | is it typical to load xfs for this? |
| 17:13.51 | eldowan | I have a lenny system that has been up and running for quite a long time. yesterday, I came in to find it had lost sda2, and dropped to an emergency shell. Grub works, but will not boot any longer. When I attach the HDD to another system, all partitions show up, and all the data looks like it should. I would like to get the system back working, but I don't know where to start. |
| 17:14.00 | eldowan | Any one feel like offering some advice? |
| 17:14.19 | BLZbubba | eldowan: make a backup image before you do anything else |
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| 17:14.29 | BLZbubba | don't eat yellow snow |
| 17:14.34 | kaste | LemensTS: did you have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD ? |
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| 17:14.54 | rozie | eldowan: check smart, make backup image (ddrescue is your friend) |
| 17:14.57 | eldowan | BLZbubba: yeah, both good pieces. |
| 17:14.58 | BLZbubba | eldowan: maybe boot from a lenny install cd and see if you can rerun grub |
| 17:15.24 | zr0 | i just installed debian lenny on an old laptop (acer 5570z) and the brightness seems to autoadjust randomly.. i'll turn it down and sometimes it will crank brightness to max all of the sudden |
| 17:15.25 | BLZbubba | or figure out the grub cmd line; i never have the patience for that (but i should someday) |
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| 17:16.02 | eldowan | BLZbubba: I didn't think of trying to massage grub directly. Thanks. |
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| 17:18.34 | Pip | How does Lenny perform ? |
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| 17:20.44 | Spec | Pip: It performs like a chevy with a hemi. |
| 17:22.50 | Nepherius | I'm making a ssh banner , if I do cat /etc/issue.net it displays it how its should be but if I do ssh localhost it's messed up, it shows the color code instead of a colored text. What am I missing ? |
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| 17:45.53 | eldowan | alright, I found and fixed my grub issue, but I don't know how or why it happened. My sata drive has always been /dev/sda, but now when grub loads, it is detected as /dev/sde |
| 17:46.10 | eldowan | By changing /etc/fstab and the grub boot item, it works correctly now. |
| 17:46.22 | eldowan | Is there a way that I can correct this, or at least prevent it from changing again? |
| 17:46.28 | abrotman | !uuid |
| 17:46.28 | dpkg | [uuid] Universally Unique IDentifier, used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with `blkid'. In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. Helps to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire. |
| 17:47.03 | eldowan | dammit, of course. |
| 17:47.22 | eldowan | abrotman: You always seem to have the answers to guide fools like me back to sanity. Thanks. |
| 17:47.22 | dvs | dims the lightbulbv |
| 17:47.49 | abrotman | See .. I'm not as stupid as dvs thinks! |
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| 17:48.04 | dvs | heh |
| 17:48.31 | thewanderer1 | hi, I have a problem with farpd. I set it to reply to ARP requests in my network, but it replies to broadcast address not to the asker's address, so the asker host's firewall drops the packets |
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| 17:51.57 | thewanderer1 | is replying to broadcast address a feature of ARP or is this a bug in farpd? |
| 17:52.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | I read fartd there |
| 17:52.44 | frikinz | ~~ |
| 17:52.55 | Holden | Hello. Is squeeze's automatic partition procedure during installation optimized for the latest Advanced Format hdd? |
| 17:53.37 | abrotman | Try it and see ? |
| 17:53.38 | xingu | I read "too lazy to add a route" |
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| 17:54.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | you solved too many anagrams then |
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| 17:54.50 | stew | what is "Advanced Format" ? |
| 17:54.59 | Holden | abrotman, the last time I tried on virtualbox I got partitions with start sector not a multiple of 8 :( but it was quite some time ago, so I wondered if anything has changed |
| 17:55.05 | thewanderer1 | stew: 4K disk blocks |
| 17:55.29 | Holden | stew, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/ |
| 17:55.45 | eldowan | OK, this is strange. when the system loads, before pivot root, all my drives are detected as sde. But when I'm actually in my system, they are detected as sda. What gives? |
| 17:55.50 | thewanderer1 | Holden: you should probably create partitions yourself... |
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| 17:56.42 | jelly-hme | Holden: did your virtualbox virtual drive advertise itself as a 4KiB sector drive? |
| 17:56.50 | Holden | thewanderer1, yes, and with fdisk it works great, but still lots of people will use the automatic tool and many disks on the market are already using AF |
| 17:57.00 | xingu | stew: and "latest" would imply 512e, which is yet another layer of horkitude; 4k sectors, and microelectrics lying about them to the host (presenting 512byte logical sectors and managing the r-m-w cycle themselves) |
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| 17:57.50 | xingu | ... badly. |
| 17:58.04 | Holden | jelly-hme, I don't think so. where should I check? dmesg? /sys/block/sdx? |
| 17:59.10 | xingu | I can't wait to see what happens when the first two generations of AF hit the far end of their duty cycle and encounter the old read-modify-whoops-cantwrite error... under load. |
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| 17:59.39 | jelly-hme | Holden: hm, I realize now I don't know |
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| 18:00.18 | Holden | jelly-hme, brilliant :D |
| 18:00.33 | xingu | Holden: allegedly clipping support has been added to fdisk and probably cfdisk, but I don't know in what versions. |
| 18:00.38 | xingu | Holden: google might |
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| 18:01.38 | jelly-hme | https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_4_KiB_sector_issues |
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| 18:03.05 | jelly-hme | so, /sys/block/sdX/queue/{physical,logical}_block_size |
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| 18:04.10 | jelly-hme | of course, the drive I have lies about it :-) |
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| 18:04.46 | pythoned | How do you add contrib non-free ? What's the address? |
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| 18:05.25 | xingu | Holden: http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg02893.html seems apposite |
| 18:05.39 | jelly-hme | dpkg, tell pythoned about non-free sources |
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| 18:05.49 | Holden | jelly-hme, Ok, I'll read that page. yes, a long time ago I read that the problem was that the hdd doesn't tell the kernel if it's using 4k sectors or not (firmware internally converts 4k <-> 512b in AF) so the partitioning program doesn't know. but maybe this has changed recently. |
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| 18:06.39 | pythoned | jelly-hme: Thank you |
| 18:06.42 | jelly-hme | Holden: the reasonable default could be to do what Windows Vista/7/2008 do, and just align everything on 1MiB |
| 18:06.42 | xingu | Holden: blockdev --report in recent enough blockdev. |
| 18:06.53 | cusco | hello folks |
| 18:07.23 | pythoned | Also, should I keep the amd64 kernel or use bigmem? |
| 18:07.26 | jelly-hme | Holden: I'm pretty sure squeeze installer doesn't have that as goal |
| 18:07.35 | abrotman | pythoned: depends on your system .. how much RAM do you have? |
| 18:07.37 | cusco | this debian box has time = all-our-other-servers + 1 |
| 18:07.42 | pythoned | abrotman: 4gb of ram |
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| 18:07.47 | xingu | jelly-hme: it'll be fixed in the next version? :) |
| 18:07.49 | jelly-hme | pythoned: use whatever works for you. |
| 18:07.54 | abrotman | pythoned: either should be fine |
| 18:07.59 | cusco | tzdata is set to Europe/Lisbon just like all other debian boxes |
| 18:08.08 | cusco | and /etc/default/rcS has UCT=no |
| 18:08.11 | cusco | like all others |
| 18:08.16 | pythoned | abrotman: Sadly I have to use flash player. Will it work for amd64 too? |
| 18:08.19 | cusco | I can't figure out why is on hour forward |
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| 18:08.31 | cusco | would anybody help me» |
| 18:08.32 | cusco | ? |
| 18:08.35 | orangey | hello all. |
| 18:08.36 | jelly-hme | pythoned: amd64 kernel has some syscall compatibility issues -- suspend and hibernate with amd64 kernel on and i386 squeeze installation completely fail to work for me |
| 18:08.46 | abrotman | pythoned: your userland is still 32bit .. yes |
| 18:08.53 | orangey | I'm using uw-imapd right now, but it strikes me I shouldn't. thoughts? dovecot? |
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| 18:09.16 | xingu | cusco: try checking hwclock --show |
| 18:09.16 | pythoned | jelly-hme: And now you are using bigmem? |
| 18:09.23 | xingu | cusco: on the good, and offset cases. |
| 18:09.37 | jelly-hme | pythoned: no, that was on a machine I decided to keep always on |
| 18:09.48 | cusco | xingu: Tue 28 Dec 2010 19:10:43 WET -0.967124 seconds |
| 18:09.54 | Holden | jelly-hme, xingu ok thanks. i'll use fdisk if one of those huge 2Tb hdd falls into my hands then :) |
| 18:09.55 | cusco | that is offset |
| 18:09.59 | pythoned | jelly-hme: I see, thanks |
| 18:10.14 | cusco | xingu: Tue 28 Dec 2010 18:10:04 WET -0.289671 seconds (as a good case) |
| 18:10.24 | thewanderer1 | orangey: this is highly subjective, but dovecot works well for me |
| 18:10.30 | xingu | cusco: your rtc is offset by 1h on the broken case |
| 18:10.44 | jelly-hme | Holden: sfdisk -d and sfdisk can be used to tweak the numbers to align properly |
| 18:10.47 | xingu | cusco: just fix it in bios or with hwclock --set |
| 18:10.55 | orangey | thewanderer1: I'm not even really able to tell why I shouldn't use uw-imapd, which works well enough for me.. |
| 18:10.58 | jelly-hme | what's WET |
| 18:11.05 | orangey | and uw-imapd supports push, right? |
| 18:11.07 | xingu | jelly-hme: like DRY but less so? |
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| 18:11.24 | thewanderer1 | orangey: so... who told you should cease to use it? :P |
| 18:11.35 | cusco | xingu: right, how do I set rtc with no physicall access? |
| 18:11.42 | xingu | cusco: hwclock --set |
| 18:11.44 | cusco | ah |
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| 18:12.01 | thewanderer1 | cusco: you should probably get yourself an NTP client |
| 18:12.03 | orangey | thewanderer1: I'm upgrading my production etch to lenny right now |
| 18:12.12 | orangey | thewanderer1: and I usually use that as an opportunity to reexamine all my life choices |
| 18:12.22 | car|0s | hello, can someone help? I'm installig debian for eeepc and everything worked just fine out of the box, the only thing is that i cant make it boot into x by default |
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| 18:13.09 | thewanderer1 | orangey: the only thing that I can think of right now is that `harden-servers` conflicts with `uw-imapd` - you might want to see why |
| 18:13.11 | xingu | oh great! |
| 18:13.14 | Holden | jelly-hme, ok, i'll read the manpage |
| 18:13.32 | dvs | orangey: lenny? squeeze is just about to be released |
| 18:13.38 | xingu | so sas->sata controllers can also report 512byte blocksize. :) |
| 18:13.41 | orangey | dvs: when? |
| 18:13.45 | xingu | another layer of things to go badly wrong then |
| 18:13.48 | dvs | uh oh |
| 18:13.48 | jelly-hme | dvs: I have some machines on sarge. |
| 18:14.01 | jelly-hme | lenny is fresh new! |
| 18:14.07 | dvs | orangey: really soon |
| 18:14.09 | orangey | dvs: regardless, I am where I am.. |
| 18:14.14 | thewanderer1 | jelly-hme: care to share? I need a honeypot... |
| 18:14.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | orangey, any year now |
| 18:14.29 | dvs | heh |
| 18:14.30 | orangey | CutMeOwnThroat: hahahaha |
| 18:14.33 | jelly-hme | possibly 2011 |
| 18:14.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | 'taint funny! |
| 18:14.52 | dvs | it better be 2011 |
| 18:14.57 | jelly-hme | in fact I give it 80% chance of a 2011 release |
| 18:15.00 | orangey | so, another thing I'm going to do is work on hardening this server |
| 18:15.05 | dvs | 80%? |
| 18:15.15 | jelly-hme | dvs: it's debian after all |
| 18:15.22 | orangey | but I wouldn't move to squeeze for at least 6 months after it's out. it's my arbitrary policy |
| 18:15.52 | jelly-hme | orangey: noone sane upgrades production machines on the release day anyway |
| 18:16.20 | dvs | but how long will lenny be supported after squeeze's release? |
| 18:16.25 | xingu | Holden: this is amazing stuff - from the same thread - http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg02919.html - EARS series drive, zero indication that it's using 4KiB mapping, and order of magnitude speed loss when not aligning writes |
| 18:16.27 | un214 | -1 seconds |
| 18:16.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, there _is_ only wonko the sane and he doesn't |
| 18:16.27 | orangey | jelly-hme: and yet i'm feeling inadequate for having etch yet ; ) |
| 18:16.33 | xingu | Holden: this is going to be epic. |
| 18:16.40 | jelly-hme | dvs: 12 months? |
| 18:16.46 | orangey | so, imapd servers.. |
| 18:16.47 | orangey | dovecot? |
| 18:16.53 | thewanderer1 | orangey: when you get to grsecurity in your hardening process, you'll see what fun really is :D |
| 18:16.56 | orangey | why not wu-imapd. Does anybody know enough about these things to say? |
| 18:17.01 | ajikeshi | CutMeOwnThroat, yeah.. wonko is really sane :D |
| 18:17.12 | ajikeshi | especially considering toothpicks :D |
| 18:17.18 | jelly-hme | xingu: so... easy way to check for 4KiB -- an experimental test! |
| 18:17.42 | xingu | jelly-hme: bruteforce is go |
| 18:18.25 | thewanderer1 | orangey: http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-386525-conflict-uw-imapd-help-166731321.html |
| 18:18.42 | dvs | orangey: I heard it's a lack of security |
| 18:18.44 | thewanderer1 | if Ola doesn't remember, it probably doesn't matter anymore :P |
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| 18:19.04 | un214 | as for lack of security, try not using sudo |
| 18:19.07 | orangey | thewanderer1: the answer is "i don't know" |
| 18:19.23 | bittin | bittin@jabber.se i need more geeks to chat with :) |
| 18:19.24 | Holden | xingu, yes, it's something we should pay attention in time. here's some others benchmarks: http://www.linuxconfig.org/linux-wd-ears-advanced-format |
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| 18:19.27 | orangey | thewanderer1 dvs: anyhow, so of the other options, rimuhosting (my fave currently) recommends dovecot |
| 18:19.29 | jelly-hme | thewanderer1: uw-imap issues are solved by using saner imap service software |
| 18:19.29 | un214 | actually I found a powerful attack against the sudo scheme itself |
| 18:19.34 | jargon- | what's the difference between rsyncing to a remote host without the `-e ssh` option? doesn't rsync use ssh by default for remote syncing? |
| 18:19.47 | thewanderer1 | un214: say what? |
| 18:20.11 | xingu | Holden: I've seen similar things in my world which I won't bore you with, but needless to say no MLC flash on the market *really* has 512byte sectors. :) |
| 18:20.13 | jelly-hme | jargon-: it does now, but it used different defaults in the past |
| 18:20.14 | un214 | custom LD_PRELOAD set up by .bashrc that cloaks its own presence |
| 18:20.17 | thewanderer1 | orangey: I'd say give it a try (deploy a test host) and migrate if you feel like it |
| 18:20.26 | jargon- | jelly-hme: aah i see |
| 18:20.31 | dvs | orangey: I use courier but I'd go with your host |
| 18:20.33 | un214 | putting ~/.sneaker in the path and hiding it from readdir |
| 18:20.52 | thewanderer1 | un214: and what do you get then? |
| 18:20.54 | Holden | xingu, ah, perfect :D |
| 18:21.03 | un214 | intercept calls to sudo, steal the password |
| 18:21.10 | xingu | Holden: various controllers do a better or worse job at hiding it, all of them crap out under a mix designed to stress their worst case. |
| 18:21.25 | xingu | for values of "crap out" including multi-second stalls. |
| 18:21.32 | thewanderer1 | un214: sure, but everyone can just alias some command to sudo... |
| 18:21.38 | orangey | thewanderer1: I don't have a test host, really |
| 18:21.43 | un214 | won't help |
| 18:21.44 | orangey | thewanderer1: maybe some day ; ) |
| 18:21.55 | un214 | I'm lower level |
| 18:22.07 | orangey | dvs: Any reason why you picked courier? or was it inertia / no real reason? |
| 18:22.19 | thewanderer1 | un214: just how do you imagine a user could intercept calls to sudo done by another user? |
| 18:22.26 | un214 | not my game |
| 18:22.50 | thewanderer1 | well, if it's about a user intercepting his own calls to sudo, this is kind of obvious :) |
| 18:22.58 | cusco | thanks xingu |
| 18:22.59 | cusco | :) |
| 18:23.01 | un214 | no its about a trojan intercepting calls to sudo |
| 18:23.09 | dvs | orangey: No real reason. It's for personal use. |
| 18:23.30 | thewanderer1 | un214: but you can do `alias sudo='~/.bin/mysudo.trojan'` at any time, really... |
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| 18:23.57 | un214 | you could |
| 18:24.03 | un214 | but I don't like to be detected |
| 18:24.04 | thewanderer1 | so what's the difference? |
| 18:24.04 | Seb | un214: so, you install a trojan and *then* steal the _user_ password ? |
| 18:24.13 | jelly-hme | un214: if you can "intercept calls", the terrorists have already won |
| 18:24.17 | Seb | krkr |
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| 18:24.48 | un214 | wonders what jelly-hme thinks LD_PRELOAD is for |
| 18:24.54 | thewanderer1 | un214: you could install a sneaky shell to .bashrc just as well... this is an attack against the user, not against sudo |
| 18:25.09 | Seb | indeed |
| 18:25.09 | thewanderer1 | LD_PRELOAD doesn't affect sudo at all |
| 18:25.16 | jelly-hme | you want security, run the web browser in a vm and restore it from a template on every run |
| 18:25.22 | orangey | dvs: Damn you for being reasonable and non-sectarian |
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| 18:25.37 | dvs | ha! |
| 18:25.41 | un214 | anyway I prefer logging in as root |
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| 18:26.03 | dvs | !start an mta war |
| 18:26.03 | dpkg | qmail rulez. |
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| 18:26.11 | jelly-hme | thewanderer1: it used to... back in 1996, on some other OS, and then they fixed the obvious bug |
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| 18:27.27 | un214 | these days sudo is starting to look a bit like the same dumb idea that is UAC |
| 18:27.28 | orangey | dvs: heh |
| 18:28.01 | un214 | took me awhile to wrap my head around it |
| 18:28.22 | un214 | the answer is not controlled privilege escalation but really fast user switching |
| 18:28.47 | thewanderer1 | un214: sudo is designed for other purposes than user switching |
| 18:28.53 | xingu | un214: I've worked on sites that had patched sudo for OTP. :) |
| 18:29.18 | xingu | mutters something about "something you have, and something you know" |
| 18:29.20 | un214 | xingu: woudn't help |
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| 18:30.22 | xingu | un214: "steal the password"... what, one that rotated into uselessness as it was used? |
| 18:30.27 | un214 | the command typed: sudo tail /var/log/messages |
| 18:30.46 | un214 | the command executed: sudo ~/.sneaky/attack tail /var/log/messages |
| 18:31.20 | thewanderer1 | un214: it happens, and has so many other ways of occuring. the answer is common sense... |
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| 18:31.31 | xingu | un214: the same site had a very ristricted jail of commands that were sudo-enabled. |
| 18:31.42 | un214 | now that would kind of help |
| 18:31.52 | xingu | un214: all of them were auditted, none of them had known escapes or backdoors or shell-outs |
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| 18:32.17 | thewanderer1 | well of course sudo configured as a `su` substitute is a misunderstanding |
| 18:32.18 | xingu | un214: the environment that sudo invoked was rbac'd up the wazoo; attempts to spawn a shell would've brought the house lights down. :) |
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| 18:32.20 | un214 | unless you set your timeout to zero the other attack works |
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| 18:32.27 | xingu | timeout? what timeout. |
| 18:32.28 | xingu | :) |
| 18:32.36 | un214 | timeout for not asking for password again |
| 18:32.46 | xingu | you always prompt for it, right? |
| 18:33.09 | un214 | the default is 5 minutes |
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| 18:34.05 | thewanderer1 | I've noticed that the kernel accepts ARP replies that come from the broadcast address. is this expected? |
| 18:34.26 | un214 | don't see why not |
| 18:34.53 | un214 | doesn't that say "I don't have a MAC you must use broadcast to talk to me" |
| 18:35.09 | thewanderer1 | but the replies contain the MAC... |
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| 18:35.20 | un214 | ah |
| 18:35.23 | un214 | that case |
| 18:35.35 | un214 | some stupid firmware just swaps src and dst when replying |
| 18:35.48 | thewanderer1 | my host just sends "10.0.7.4 is-at de:ad:be:ef:00:01" but replies to broadcast address |
| 18:36.02 | thewanderer1 | it's running farpd, a userspace ARP reply daemon, but it contains some bug |
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| 18:36.34 | thewanderer1 | and a firewalled host doesn't get its fake ARP replies, whereas an unfirewalled Debian Squeeze box does accept replies from the broadcast |
| 18:36.50 | un214 | I have one in my archives that will believe IP addresses not in netmask and talk directly to them afterwards |
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| 18:37.03 | jelly-hme | thewanderer1: do we want to know why you're faking ARP replies? |
| 18:37.11 | un214 | he's probably not |
| 18:37.38 | un214 | some firmware doesn't support arp |
| 18:37.47 | jelly-hme | *blink* |
| 18:37.47 | thewanderer1 | jelly-hme: I'm setting up a honeypot |
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| 18:37.49 | xingu | un214: sudoers(5): PREVENTING SHELL ESCAPES may be of interest |
| 18:37.49 | un214 | so another host has to provide life support |
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| 18:38.01 | thewanderer1 | so I am in fact faking ARP replies with a userspace daemon... |
| 18:38.16 | jelly-hme | thewanderer1: which honey are you going to use? |
| 18:38.19 | thewanderer1 | honeyd |
| 18:38.39 | thewanderer1 | and README.Debian says I need farpd which is apparently not-so-standards-compliant |
| 18:38.55 | Holden | xingu, I read the whole thread, very interesting. in doubt, I'll always align on a 4KB boundary :) |
| 18:39.03 | un214 | xingu: you do realize that if this particular sudoer it got has enough power to perform sysadmin work it has enough power to compromize machine anyway |
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| 18:39.43 | jelly-hme | prefers acacia |
| 18:39.46 | xingu | un214: depends what you mean by "perform sysadmin work"; and I'd suggest that anyone with shell access needs to be trusted about as far as they can be thrown in general. |
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| 18:40.03 | thewanderer1 | jelly-hme: acacia is not in the repos unfortunately |
| 18:40.30 | thewanderer1 | and honeyd has some interesting stuff, namely custom shell scripts similar to inetd |
| 18:40.30 | jelly-hme | thewanderer1: I meant actual honey. |
| 18:40.42 | thewanderer1 | hmmm :P |
| 18:40.54 | xingu | Holden: status quo is vista/win7, if consumer drives benchmark poorly under that they'll sell about as poorly as "enterprise" ones that benchmark poorly under esxi do on a percraid controller. |
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| 18:42.49 | xingu | Holden: I believe gpt implies 1MiB offset for first partition table in the former case, so it's probably a reasonable pick; personally I'll shoot at actual 4KiB sector writes for rotational and 256KiB for mlc until the benchmarks start giving me different numbers in the worst case (I care more about the 99.9th %ile maximum write delay than anything) |
| 18:44.29 | Holden | xingu, yes, I'll do the same :) let's hope they will fix/simplify the situation for the average user, I am happy I don't need a new hdd for now, so I can wait 1-2 years before I buy again |
| 18:44.32 | xingu | Holden: ie even once you get the offset/alignment right, the next world-o-hurt is what happens when you actually build out the storage pool; if you wind up with stride=512 in mkfs.ext2-ese on say a 6 spindle raid6 pool you're going to have other interesting things happen |
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| 18:46.19 | Holden | xingu, hmm... for what I do with my computer, I'm pretty sure I won't have to deal with that problem :D |
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| 18:56.52 | sieson | I have this script in the cron folder that I want to run hourly but it might take more than an hour to be completed. Does cron run it even though its still running? |
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| 18:57.11 | jordanm | sieson: yes |
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| 18:58.01 | sieson | jordanm: is there a way to stop cron from running it if its still running? |
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| 18:59.07 | jordanm | sieson: have your script/command check to see if its running |
| 18:59.13 | abrotman | sieson: have your script use a lock file |
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| 18:59.33 | jordanm | sieson: what is the action to be performed. why not run a while loop that just continuosly executes the command again once it is finished? |
| 18:59.35 | sieson | ok thanks guys |
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| 19:05.02 | LemensTS | i have a directory with a .file (hidden), if i do cp -pr /directory/* /somwhere else that .file does not copy |
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| 19:05.17 | valdyn | LemensTS: why do you use the * ? |
| 19:05.30 | LemensTS | valdyn: becase i know no better |
| 19:05.36 | valdyn | LemensTS: dont use it. |
| 19:05.39 | LemensTS | that the problem? |
| 19:05.40 | LemensTS | ha ok |
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| 19:05.59 | jordanm | LemensTS: shopt -s extglob; cp -a /directory/!(.|..) |
| 19:06.11 | jordanm | (bash only) |
| 19:06.28 | valdyn | im not sure thats exactly the easy solution |
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| 19:06.52 | jordanm | valdyn: and how would you glob all files in /directory/ without "." and ".." |
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| 19:07.01 | valdyn | jordanm: i would not use globbing |
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| 19:07.41 | jordanm | valdyn: you leaving me in suspense here |
| 19:07.45 | jordanm | you're |
| 19:08.05 | valdyn | jordanm: just /directory/ or if thats broken then cd /directory/, and cp -r ./ |
| 19:08.32 | jordanm | valdyn: /directory/ will actually copy the directory whereas the glob will not |
| 19:08.56 | valdyn | jordanm: what i said |
| 19:09.12 | jelly-hme | jordanm: and that's more sensible and easier to manage later |
| 19:09.23 | jordanm | valdyn: I see. I remain unconvinced however :) |
| 19:09.39 | valdyn | jordanm: unconvinved of what? |
| 19:10.25 | jordanm | valdyn: that cd /directory && cp -r ./ /foo/ is better |
| 19:10.44 | valdyn | jordanm: its not better, no one said that, its just easier to understand |
| 19:10.50 | jordanm | ah |
| 19:11.07 | valdyn | funnily the best is cp -r /directory/./ /newdir/ |
| 19:11.43 | valdyn | ( at least with gnu cp ) |
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| 19:12.12 | jordanm | that does look better |
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| 19:12.57 | queso | So the postgresql package ditched readline for editline. I got my vi editing mode back by creating an .editrc file. Now is it possible for me to get tab-completion back in psql in editline? man editrc has nothing on autocomplete. |
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| 19:13.57 | delby | where can i find the copyright statement for packages in non-free? |
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| 19:14.57 | jordanm | delby: /usr/share/doc/<package>/copyright |
| 19:14.57 | dvs | delby: usually in /usr/share/doc/<package-name> |
| 19:15.13 | jordanm | delby: that file should be present for all debian packages |
| 19:15.41 | delby | thanks |
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| 19:20.14 | nirazio | Is it possible to completely remove the gnome panel from one of the workspaces? I'd like to have a clean desktop to work with on the second workspace, and a regular desktop with panels on the first workspace. Is that at all possible? |
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| 19:21.58 | phorce1 | Hmmm, any idea what would cause "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot allocate memory" when trying to ifup an ethernet card I just ifdown'd a few days ago? |
| 19:22.03 | Bushmills | narrowing the panel to 50% while placing it lower left (or right) should do |
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| 19:23.21 | jordanm | phorce1: I saw that with a bug in the realtek driver with lenny |
| 19:23.31 | jordanm | r8189 IIRC |
| 19:24.05 | jordanm | might still have an open bug report in regards to it |
| 19:24.25 | phorce1 | jordanm: that's probably what the card is. I have 3 in this machine. Naturally, that's the one thats hooked to the fastest Internet connection |
| 19:24.47 | phorce1 | Lenny with 2.6.26-2 booted |
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| 19:25.32 | jordanm | phorce1: yep, hehe... I just happen to have 3 cards in the machine I was referring to as well |
| 19:25.37 | phorce1 | I really need to go ahead and move this machine to Squeeze but it has so much IMPORTANT crap on it I'm a bit twitchy |
| 19:26.02 | jordanm | phorce1: lspci -k should show you which kernel module is being used |
| 19:26.23 | frikinz | I also go this cannot allocate memory after the kernel had oopsed (sis driver I think) |
| 19:26.58 | jelly-hme | phorce1: lenny's going to be supported for at least a year after squeeze is released |
| 19:28.11 | phorce1 | jordanm: yep r8169 on two cards. 1 is working fine and that's probably the one listed as an actuual 8169. The other is a PCIe 8111/8168b that says it's also using the 8169 module |
| 19:29.12 | phorce1 | jelly-hme: I need to upgrade it because I keep doing things that require backports and other fidgity behaviour. Might as well upgrade before the backports dry up. |
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| 19:29.40 | dvs | phorce1: I'd get the newer kernel. |
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| 19:30.21 | jordanm | just stopped using the 8169 and made his work buy him e1000 intel cards :) |
| 19:31.06 | phorce1 | dvs: keep meaning to do that but I get busy with actually using the machine when I sit down <grin>. nVidia card means reinstalling those drivers for a newer kernel so it's not just an "install and reboot" thing. |
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| 19:31.27 | jordanm | phorce1: it will be with the new dkms |
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| 19:31.32 | phorce1 | jordanm: the 3rd card is an e1000 module |
| 19:31.41 | jordanm | one good one atleast |
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| 19:32.45 | ner0x | What is a good cli program to view error logs? |
| 19:32.57 | dvs | less |
| 19:32.58 | jordanm | ner0x: /usr/bin/pager |
| 19:33.08 | AimHere | cat/more/less |
| 19:33.16 | jordanm | and most! |
| 19:33.24 | dvs | at the very least! |
| 19:33.25 | jordanm | (if you don't need regex search) |
| 19:33.42 | jelly-hme | and dog! |
| 19:33.42 | phorce1 | jordanm: I still have to fix the NX client/server init scripts on the machine at home so Squeeze can finish switching to device based boot sequencing. It complains every time I upgrade stuff but I'm only there 1 or 2 days/week and I don't feel like actually *working* on the system. |
| 19:34.12 | frikinz | ner0x: ccze |
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| 19:34.51 | jordanm | phorce1: I think you mean dependancy based. adding support is actually really easy, and you can probably even copy and paste the example LSB stuff from the wiki and add it in |
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| 19:37.12 | phorce1 | jordanm: My usual method is to procrastinate until the package manager releases an update. I suspect that won't work for a frozen release <heh> |
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| 19:39.46 | phorce1 | $DEITY I hate reimaging customer computers with <$BIG BOX BRAND> restore images. Windows Vista Business service pack 0 ---- full day to get complete updates done |
| 19:42.12 | phorce1 | blah ... I'll move to 2.6.32-bpo.5 and see if that gets the card going again |
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| 19:44.34 | phorce1 | right after I rsync the mirror to the web server <sigh> |
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| 19:50.16 | tntcoda | With a VNC server, say my server is headless and I want clients on a variety of resolutions (sort of smooth scaling to native client screen res) - how would this be done? Would you have to hard code all required resolutions in the servers xorg.conf so the client can use them? |
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| 19:55.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's xorg.conf to do with a vnc server? |
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| 19:56.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | vncservers don't deal with graphics hardware |
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| 19:58.58 | simonrvn | whaaat's xorg.conf got to do, got to do with it? what's xorg.conf, but a second hand file from X? |
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| 19:59.02 | tntcoda | CutMeOwnThroat, hmm ok thanks - I assumed the VNC protocol basically liked in with X |
| 19:59.10 | bolt | heh |
| 19:59.21 | bolt | tntcoda: if you use x11vnc, it does |
| 19:59.36 | bolt | not otherwise |
| 19:59.39 | tntcoda | So say with something like TightVNC, where would the resolution the client can use come from? |
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| 20:08.24 | diago | hello, I'm trying to install debian lenny 5.0.7 and the installer is requesting bnx2-06-4.0.5.fw |
| 20:08.50 | diago | I have found the file in backports and put it on a removable drive but the installer does not recognize it |
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| 20:09.22 | diago | do the file perms need to be anything special? |
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| 20:12.46 | LemensTS | would this work at the end of a preseed.cfg file? d-i preseed/late_command string in-target touch /root/me |
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| 20:13.05 | LemensTS | I tried it without "in-target" and it didn't |
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| 20:22.52 | krashed | i am running Debian squeeze/sid running the latest gnome, i installed compiz, when i go add more workspaces (default is 2) it wont give me an option to add/remove workspaces |
| 20:22.56 | krashed | is there any workaround? |
| 20:24.39 | bolt | if you can't configure the number of gnome workspaces by hand, you probably shouldn't be running sid |
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| 20:25.56 | krashed | sorry i am more into security and all than gnome settings |
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| 20:48.37 | Pinchiukas | How do I enable unicode on squeeze? When I type native characters rubbish appears on screen. I'm doing that in putty (unicode enabled). |
| 20:49.16 | bzrk_ | Pinchiukas: dpkg-reconfigure locale |
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| 20:51.30 | Pinchiukas | bzrk_: 'locales' maybe? |
| 20:52.25 | dondelelcaro | Pinchiukas: so long as the locale you're using is a UTF-8 variant, it will work. |
| 20:53.09 | Pinchiukas | dondelelcaro: what will work? |
| 20:53.14 | dondelelcaro | Pinchiukas: if you type locale; you can see what locale you are using. If it's not utf-8, dpkg-reconfigure locales; build a UTF-8 variant, and then change it |
| 20:53.20 | dondelelcaro | Pinchiukas: UTF-8 |
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| 20:58.29 | zxoch | Hi there, I've a silly trouble with the permission of the executable file on gcc compiler, this is the output: www.pastebin.com/fgzSGr2T. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. |
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| 20:59.13 | dondelelcaro | zxoch: what is the output of mount -l; ? |
| 20:59.48 | dondelelcaro | zxoch: and does /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ./array_example_0; work? |
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| 21:01.34 | streuner | dondelelcaro: bored on christmas? |
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| 21:06.09 | K_Dallas | Hi! Q: I am trying to install one of the distros on DELL-Precision-M4500 and the only one which works is Ubuntu 10.10. All others are for some wierd reason do not show up on the screen. If I connect an LCD, I can see that they are working but without the aux screen, I do not see anything on my laptop. I have tried: Debian (both stable abd testing/fedora/opensuse/mint and mint debian). Is there a fix that I could use to install Deb |
| 21:06.09 | K_Dallas | ian-Testing? Appreciate any help, thanks |
| 21:06.49 | streuner | dondelelcaro: you should go to Berlin... |
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| 21:08.40 | streuner | dondelelcaro: Berlin would be nice - http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Main_Page |
| 21:09.06 | zxoch | dondelelcaro, It works with the second sequence of commands, this is the output http://pastie.org/1412022. Could you give me some suggestions in order to run it properly? |
| 21:09.30 | dondelelcaro | streuner: heh; I've been meaning to get to the CCC one of these days. Haven't had time |
| 21:09.41 | abrotman | K_Dallas: did you try turning off the framebuffer? |
| 21:10.02 | streuner | dondelelcaro: well, there are plenty of cool people there... |
| 21:10.06 | K_Dallas | abrotman, sorry to ask but what is framebuffer? |
| 21:10.27 | abrotman | K_Dallas: when you start the installer, it has a button to hit to get options |
| 21:10.32 | dondelelcaro | zxoch: /dev/sdb1 on /media/@B612 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush) <-- this is the problem. |
| 21:10.49 | K_Dallas | abrotman, yes so should i add something like this: framebuffer=no |
| 21:11.02 | dondelelcaro | zxoch: you've got showexec set on that filesystem, which means that only files with .EXE, .COM, or .BAT will be executable. |
| 21:11.18 | dondelelcaro | zxoch: fix how it is mounted. rw,nosuid,nodev is perfectly fine. |
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| 21:12.05 | zxoch | dondelelcaro: Thanks for your help, let me fix it. |
| 21:12.07 | K_Dallas | (fb=false) I am going to try it shortly. Thanks abrotman |
| 21:12.41 | K_Dallas | Any other suggestions before I reboot? |
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| 21:12.50 | dondelelcaro | zxoch: showexec is one of those mount options that is pretty much useless. (just like noexec) |
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| 21:14.01 | jaelae | why o why do I forget to download an os the day before i need to install it |
| 21:14.19 | dondelelcaro | jaelae: so download the netinst; it's not like you need the whole thing |
| 21:15.13 | jaelae | i know its a basic install but figured it might be too basic |
| 21:15.17 | jaelae | though maybe not, ill try it |
| 21:15.46 | babilen | jaelae: if you have a working internet connecion the netinst is all you need |
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| 21:17.49 | Megaf_ | Hi folks, is there any problem with the ISO files? |
| 21:18.25 | Megaf_ | I tried 6 medias (CD and DVD Rw) and different ISOs, 32 and 64 bit, and I cant tasksel install desktop |
| 21:18.34 | Megaf_ | neither at the debian installer |
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| 21:27.32 | elik | There doesn't seem to be an option to not follow symbolic links in scp. Are there alternatives? |
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| 21:29.33 | poisonbit | elik, rsync has a buch of options about symlincs (and works over ssh, rsync -e ssh opts src dst) |
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| 21:35.14 | elik | poisonbit: yeah, I thought it would come to this :S |
| 21:35.15 | elik | oh well |
| 21:35.51 | streuner | dondelelcaro: you miss a lot... |
| 21:36.24 | elik | streuner: the internet has the rest anyway |
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| 21:40.07 | streuner | elik: well, you are just miss cool people in Berlin :-P |
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| 21:40.43 | kaste | ? |
| 21:41.03 | kaste | 27c3? |
| 21:41.12 | streuner | yes |
| 21:41.16 | streuner | http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Main_Page |
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| 21:42.27 | Chris___ | help please. stuck in 800x600. :( |
| 21:42.33 | Chris___ | I want my 1680x1050 back. |
| 21:42.53 | kaste | if i were stuck in 800x600 i'd want my third dimension back :P |
| 21:43.09 | cusco | Chris___: what driver? |
| 21:43.12 | Chris___ | 800x600 makes my head want to explode :( |
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| 21:43.21 | Chris___ | NVIDIA, I followed the wiki to do it "The Debian Way" |
| 21:43.27 | streuner | kaste: are you in Berlin acutally? |
| 21:43.27 | Chris___ | I'm also on the latest squeeze beta |
| 21:43.28 | nsadmin | Megaf_ why? |
| 21:43.29 | Chris___ | fresh install |
| 21:43.38 | cusco | Chris___: gnome? |
| 21:43.40 | kaste | no my girlfriend a few other friends |
| 21:43.42 | Chris___ | cusco: yes |
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| 21:43.56 | cusco | Chris___: can't you change it in gnome-display-properties |
| 21:43.58 | cusco | ? |
| 21:44.03 | Chris___ | cusco: moment |
| 21:44.05 | streuner | kaste: too bad :-P |
| 21:44.11 | kaste | gotta work :( |
| 21:44.47 | streuner | kaste: so they arent interested in IT? |
| 21:45.24 | kaste | they? |
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| 21:45.47 | Chris___ | cusco: http://goose.honk-honk.org/files/800x600.png |
| 21:45.49 | streuner | kaste: sure, they arent interested in IT all... |
| 21:46.19 | cusco | Chris___: how about nvidia-settings ? (as root) |
| 21:46.28 | Chris___ | moment |
| 21:46.41 | cusco | in 'xserver display configuration' |
| 21:46.48 | Chris___ | "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." |
| 21:46.52 | cusco | also, are you using nvidia module right now? |
| 21:46.53 | cusco | ok |
| 21:46.55 | Chris___ | should I? |
| 21:47.03 | cusco | thats a way of doing it |
| 21:47.10 | kaste | awesome address Chris___ I assure you my jealousy |
| 21:47.11 | Chris___ | "a way" implying there's a better way? |
| 21:47.18 | elik | streuner: not sure I got that... |
| 21:47.29 | Chris___ | kaste: help me get my 1680x1050 back and I'll cname you a vhost :p |
| 21:47.46 | kaste | what does your log say |
| 21:47.55 | kaste | i assume you are using vga |
| 21:47.57 | Chris___ | Xorg log? |
| 21:47.57 | Chris___ | moment |
| 21:48.04 | kaste | or vesa or something if nvidia complains |
| 21:48.09 | streuner | kaste: forget your paranoia :-P |
| 21:48.22 | cusco | Chris___: grep -E "WW|EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 21:48.24 | Chris___ | yes VGA connector |
| 21:48.28 | Chris___ | cusco: ok, sec |
| 21:49.00 | Chris___ | cusco: http://pastie.org/1412142 |
| 21:49.01 | streuner | elik: just go to Berlin! :-) |
| 21:49.41 | kaste | ohmm didn't you say you use the vga module? |
| 21:49.50 | kaste | or did you mean the hardware adapter? |
| 21:49.58 | Chris___ | the hardware adapter, lol |
| 21:50.02 | cusco | seems that you have no nvidia driver at all.. modprobe -l|grep nvidia |
| 21:50.04 | kaste | well it falls back to vesa which is bad |
| 21:50.37 | Chris___ | cusco: kernel/drivers/video/backlight/mbp_nvidia_bl.ko | kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko | nvidia/nvidia.ko |
| 21:50.41 | Chris___ | (all on one line) |
| 21:50.56 | cusco | sounds good |
| 21:51.03 | cusco | what happens with 'modprobe nvidia' |
| 21:51.07 | kaste | well X just doesn't pick it up then |
| 21:51.26 | Chris___ | no echo/print on return |
| 21:51.39 | cusco | try restarting X now... |
| 21:51.44 | Chris___ | alright, sec |
| 21:51.47 | cusco | wait |
| 21:51.53 | kaste | :) |
| 21:51.57 | cusco | if it doesn't pick it up, try using nvidia utility to get a xorg.conf |
| 21:52.03 | cusco | I can paste mine... |
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| 21:52.15 | cusco | (I also had troubles with nvidia in the past) |
| 21:53.24 | elik | streuner: I did go to berlin |
| 21:53.32 | cusco | Chris___: mine looks like: http://paste.debian.net/103380/ |
| 21:53.58 | Chris___ | still in 800x600, restarted the system just to be sure |
| 21:54.10 | cusco | try using nvidia tool to set a xorg.conf |
| 21:54.12 | kaste | well explicitely create one |
| 21:54.34 | Chris___ | alright, sec.. |
| 21:54.42 | Chris___ | gotta shut down X to do so |
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| 21:55.49 | Chris___ | still 800x600, but now nvidia-settings works |
| 21:55.53 | kaste | streuner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG9lbkxQ27c#t=2m30s |
| 21:56.12 | cusco | Chris___: can you change resolution now, either on gnome disp propert. or nvidia settings' |
| 21:56.15 | cusco | ? |
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| 21:56.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | tntcoda, man vncserver -> geometry widthxheight Specify the size of the desktop to be created. Default is 1024x768. |
| 21:57.03 | Chris___ | they both give me either 640x840 or 320x240 |
| 21:57.07 | cusco | ew |
| 21:57.09 | Chris___ | yeah |
| 21:57.29 | cusco | Chris___: try http://paste.debian.net/plain/103380 |
| 21:57.42 | Chris___ | ok, sec |
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| 21:57.49 | kaste | can you pastie your new xorg.conf Chris___ please? |
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| 21:58.02 | Chris___ | kaste: yeah, let me do that before I wipe/replace it |
| 21:58.07 | kaste | sure |
| 21:58.11 | abrotman | his driver isn't installed correctly |
| 21:58.18 | cusco | Chris___: also grep again for EE|WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 21:58.25 | Chris___ | kaste: http://paste.debian.net/103381/ |
| 21:58.50 | Chris___ | cusco: http://paste.debian.net/103382/ |
| 21:58.51 | cusco | ok abrotman probably nows best |
| 21:59.11 | cusco | seems that it loaded fine |
| 21:59.20 | Chris___ | restarting X with that xorg.conf you gave me cusco |
| 21:59.25 | abrotman | not about nvidia .. i don't buy their crap .. but it sounds like the driver is mis-installed slomehow .. you probably want his /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 21:59.59 | cusco | yes, perhaps you could paste the whole /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 22:00.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | tntcoda, same for vnc4server (the other probably was from tightvnc) |
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| 22:00.42 | frikinz | abrotman: ati? intel? |
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| 22:02.03 | dvs | S3? |
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| 22:02.32 | abrotman | dvs: don't make jokes .. i still have some of those in older machines at work |
| 22:02.38 | dvs | *gasp* |
| 22:03.15 | frikinz | sis? :( what my boss gave me |
| 22:03.21 | Chris___ | cusco: had to rm your xorg.conf to be able to get anything |
| 22:03.28 | cusco | ok.. |
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| 22:03.32 | Chris___ | s/anything/even a terminal prompt/ |
| 22:03.55 | cusco | o.O |
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| 22:04.31 | Chris___ | yeah |
| 22:04.41 | Chris___ | gonna try the nvidia .run file real quick |
| 22:04.59 | cusco | ok |
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| 22:05.09 | cusco | that is how I did it |
| 22:05.47 | abrotman | that's how to break it .. yay |
| 22:05.58 | cusco | hmm |
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| 22:08.04 | Chris___ | still 800x600 |
| 22:08.45 | kaste | does your log file say you load the nvidia module though? |
| 22:09.16 | Chris___ | http://paste.debian.net/103383/ |
| 22:09.19 | Chris___ | ^ log file |
| 22:11.24 | kaste | hmm actually that looks good |
| 22:11.37 | kaste | did you try the screen resolution thingie again? |
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| 22:12.40 | Chris___ | both gnone-display-settings and nvidia-settings report either 640x480 or 320x240 |
| 22:12.56 | kaste | that's weird |
| 22:13.17 | Chris___ | and headache-y :( |
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| 22:13.47 | kaste | from what i see in that log i'd assume that it has to do with reading monitor values which i have never had a problem with before |
| 22:13.58 | kaste | is there a tickbox about safe modelines? |
| 22:14.17 | Chris___ | err, where? |
| 22:14.18 | kaste | if all this fails you might have to go the oldfashioned way and set explicite mode lines |
| 22:14.29 | kaste | in that gnome-display-settings-dialogue |
| 22:14.50 | Chris___ | no |
| 22:17.04 | kaste | backup your conf and try Xorg -configure |
| 22:17.24 | kaste | and see what the command says at the end |
| 22:17.33 | Chris___ | ok, sec |
| 22:18.37 | simonrvn | "file written to /root/xorg.conf" |
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| 22:19.12 | kaste | well yes i meant more than one line |
| 22:19.12 | frikinz | what do I have to do that my sound (alsa?) settings are not touched when i shutdown? my sound settings are ok in debian but not when i go to windows (and the win driver/sound gui is not good enough to revert to audible settings..) |
| 22:20.56 | frikinz | i could probably comment or remove some rc file but wondering if there's a cleaner way |
| 22:21.02 | Chris___ | better, kaste! http://goose.honk-honk.org/files/screenres.png |
| 22:21.23 | kaste | ahh |
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| 22:21.36 | kaste | but not your full resolution, ey? |
| 22:21.43 | Chris___ | if I can't get my old full resolution back, I can cope with this |
| 22:21.55 | Chris___ | but if I can get my old resolution back, I'd like to, if anyone has any idea how |
| 22:22.00 | kaste | well don't give up yet |
| 22:22.07 | kaste | do you have modelines in your config now? |
| 22:22.23 | kaste | oh btw: http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
| 22:22.25 | kaste | kill kms |
| 22:22.59 | Chris___ | how to kill? |
| 22:23.07 | kaste | it's in that doc :) |
| 22:23.29 | kaste | otherwise you will experience unnecessary pain |
| 22:23.35 | Chris___ | lol |
| 22:23.43 | Chris___ | ok, let me focus on one task more than another |
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| 22:23.54 | kaste | for example my consoles are all black if X has started before and i switch back |
| 22:23.59 | Chris___ | new xorg.conf - http://paste.debian.net/103385/ |
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| 22:25.18 | Chris___ | found it 8) |
| 22:25.32 | kaste | ? |
| 22:25.40 | Chris___ | echo blacklist nouveau > /etc/modeprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf |
| 22:25.48 | kaste | very good |
| 22:26.11 | kaste | don't have a clue why that helps since it picked up the right driver but hey :) |
| 22:26.29 | Chris___ | ok, reboot... |
| 22:28.24 | Chris___ | no change |
| 22:28.57 | kaste | ? |
| 22:29.07 | kaste | oh i thought you said it was better? |
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| 22:29.15 | Chris___ | in resolution options, after blacklisting nouveau |
| 22:29.30 | Chris___ | oh, still at 1152x864 |
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| 22:30.35 | Chris___ | log: http://paste.debian.net/103386/ |
| 22:30.57 | Chris___ | would lines 288-398 be relevant? |
| 22:31.47 | kaste | hmm pita, I would have two rather desperate suggestions |
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| 22:33.37 | Chris___ | hmm? |
| 22:33.51 | kaste | There was another way to configure X i need to google but it seems gone :( |
| 22:33.53 | kaste | hmm leaves one |
| 22:34.11 | kaste | i'd try to guess a good modeline but i haven't done that in years |
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| 22:34.41 | kaste | sec |
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| 22:35.23 | kaste | Modeline "1680x1050" 185.97 1680 1776 2000 2424 1050 1050 1053 1096 |
| 22:35.47 | kaste | no i just need to remember where that goes :) |
| 22:36.11 | Chris___ | haha |
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| 22:37.10 | simonrvn | man xorg.conf |
| 22:37.24 | abrotman | he probably doesn't need mode lines .. or an xorg.conf |
| 22:37.51 | kaste | well what is the problem in your eyes then |
| 22:38.03 | simonrvn | thinks abrotman's right |
| 22:38.07 | kaste | i know this is a kludge but i am somewhat confident it might work |
| 22:38.29 | abrotman | somewhat confident it might work ? |
| 22:38.33 | kaste | :) |
| 22:38.39 | abrotman | I'm somewhat confident that pigs might fly ... |
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| 22:39.20 | simonrvn | i'm somewhat confident that abrotman's being sarcastic ;p |
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| 22:39.28 | Chris___ | I'm somewhat confident I just want my old resolution back |
| 22:40.09 | abrotman | i'm somewhat confident nvidia sucks .. shouldn't buy their hardware .. |
| 22:40.14 | simonrvn | i'm somewhat confident others are annoyed by this "somewhat confident" spiel |
| 22:40.29 | Chris___ | found where the modeline goes, kaste |
| 22:40.46 | simonrvn | yeh, in man xorg.conf ;) |
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| 22:41.46 | kaste | well i would do that :) except that the man page on my pc doesn't mention that anymore |
| 22:41.47 | abrotman | simonrvn: :) |
| 22:41.58 | simonrvn | if i had any money at all to spend on that sort of thing, i'd go for ati or some used matrox thingy (ati preferably) |
| 22:41.59 | Chris___ | abrotman: telling me NVIDIA sucks and not to buy their hardware isn't going to make me go return this video card, buy a new one, come back, and continue to ask for help getting to my old resolution |
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| 22:42.14 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 22:42.25 | kaste | i actually had more trouble with ati than nvidia |
| 22:42.26 | abrotman | Chris___: using hte nvidia .run file is usually the wrong place to start |
| 22:42.43 | abrotman | Chris___: every time you update Xorg or the kernel, your X is going to break |
| 22:42.46 | Chris___ | well, unless you would like to contribute to helping me.. |
| 22:42.56 | abrotman | i did .. but kaste is giving you different instructions |
| 22:43.03 | abrotman | and you seem to want to follow him .. so go ahead |
| 22:43.07 | kaste | I am quiet from now on |
| 22:43.10 | simonrvn | it's the worst place to start. mangles everything, then you have to clean up. it's rather brutal to distros. |
| 22:43.40 | simonrvn | tried it once |
| 22:43.44 | abrotman | it would be really nice if nvidia would provide an apt repo for the users that want to run bleeding edge drivers |
| 22:43.56 | simonrvn | that would be nice |
| 22:44.22 | Chris___ | modeline didn't give me any new resolutions |
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| 22:48.48 | Chris___ | face, meet desk |
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| 22:58.45 | abrotman | Chris___: solved it on your own ? |
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| 23:06.00 | CyberDomovoy | hi there |
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| 23:06.36 | IceWewe | I'm trying to get iSCSI target working on a debian box. Kernel was compiled from debian sources, and I can't install the iscsi-target module. Any hints? |
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| 23:06.58 | Cim | hi |
| 23:07.02 | IceWewe | On the target machine, which is pretty light for installed software, it complains that it can't find gcc-4.4 |
| 23:07.12 | IceWewe | which apparently isn't available from the lenny repos |
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| 23:09.23 | Nepherius | http://pastebin.com/rWnG92Ry ..Any ideas about how I can fix this ?:) |
| 23:10.24 | Cim | I have problem with Debian squeeze + Asus EeePC 1000 + WiFi, in ifconfig -a i can see wlan0 but it have MAC address 00:00:00:00:00:00 and if I do ifconfig wlan0 up i have message: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted |
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| 23:15.52 | dondelelcaro | Cim: that kind of looks like you may be missing the firmware for your wireless card. Check dmesg |
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| 23:18.34 | Cim | dondelelcaro: ok I'll try download and install it from RaLink page and It will be all for today |
| 23:18.58 | IceWewe | is there any way to build the iscsi_trgt module without using module-assistant? dpkg is failing on package generation because I was bold enough to include an underscore in my kernel name. |
| 23:19.14 | Cim | cross fingers for me ;P |
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| 23:23.15 | IceWewe | does anyone have recent instructions for compiling the iscsi_trgt module without using m-a? |
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| 23:23.29 | IceWewe | since m-a insists on building a .deb, and is failing on my kernel name because it contains an underscore. |
| 23:23.44 | abrotman | what is uname -r ? |
| 23:23.55 | IceWewe | 2.6.32-inception-x86_64 |
| 23:24.08 | IceWewe | inception is the name of the box. |
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| 23:24.30 | abrotman | a) why did you compile your own? b) why not just recompile it without the underscore? |
| 23:24.54 | IceWewe | A) Because the stock debian kernel doesn't include drivers for my SATA card, and the system doesn't boot without them. |
| 23:25.12 | IceWewe | B) Seriously, there is no other way? I must change my standards to meet dpkg's insane requirements for legal characters? |
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| 23:26.52 | IceWewe | abrotman, I can recompile, but it's ridiculous that a) there is no manual way to compile this module that I can find, and b) that m-a MUST build a .deb, I just want the module, I could care less about a package for it. |
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| 23:27.11 | abrotman | you could extract the package manually and put the module in place |
| 23:27.41 | xand | you can compile modules manually... |
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| 23:28.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I thought m-a had a magic wand that only made this possible |
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| 23:51.25 | jhutchins_lt | IceWewe: You could buy suppprted hardware. |
| 23:53.19 | jhutchins_lt | !m-a |
| 23:53.19 | dpkg | module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages - from Debian module source packages - and install them. "aptitude install module-assistant". See usage examples at http://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant . Log files from successful (and unsuccessful!) builds can be found in /var/cache/modass/ |
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