| 00:00.03 | owh | sebas007: I'd start with unloading the ones needed to access the drive, unmount it first, then unload the modules. Alternatively, it *may* be simpler to reboot your server, but bear in mind that it may not come back. |
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| 00:00.41 | GeorgeS069 | this is weird... www.ntp.org resolves but,not pool.ntp.org |
| 00:00.54 | sebas007 | owh: I have the phone next to me... to call the data center... :-/ |
| 00:01.08 | sebas007 | owh: thanks for the help. ciao. |
| 00:01.17 | owh | sebas007: That may not help if the kernel cannot load the root partition. |
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| 00:01.33 | owh | GeorgeS069: Hmm, what about a simple ping? |
| 00:01.46 | GeorgeS069 | that's what I'm trying |
| 00:01.56 | GeorgeS069 | ping pool.ntp.org |
| 00:01.57 | owh | GeorgeS069: nslookup / dig ? |
| 00:02.30 | owh | GeorgeS069: I had a problem that sounds similar, turned out to be a corrupt DNS server at the ISP :-( |
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| 00:02.58 | Shadowcat | owh: my soon to be ex-isp used to reboot the dns server in the middle of the day |
| 00:03.02 | GeorgeS069 | I think it's my name server |
| 00:03.04 | Shadowcat | did WONDERS when you were trying to work |
| 00:03.31 | GeorgeS069 | my isp is speakeasy and they are pretty good about dns |
| 00:03.34 | owh | Shadowcat: Well, to give them credit, it's midnight somewhere else when it happens :-) Perhaps your ISP was outsourced :-) |
| 00:03.43 | Shadowcat | doubtful |
| 00:03.53 | Shadowcat | but I run my own dns server now |
| 00:03.56 | Shadowcat | that's how sick I got of it |
| 00:04.08 | owh | GeorgeS069: Can you restart your name services? |
| 00:04.08 | GeorgeS069 | I run my own too....I have 2 domains here |
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| 00:04.15 | GeorgeS069 | did that...twice:) |
| 00:04.16 | beardy | GeorgeS069: That's a lot of boxes, put in a loadbalancing.. thing. Every server probably doesn't answer with ping replies. Your DNS may also be doing something less good if it caches, since it's hundreds of different machines. |
| 00:04.20 | owh | GeorgeS069: bind? |
| 00:04.31 | GeorgeS069 | yes |
| 00:04.33 | GeorgeS069 | bind9 |
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| 00:04.48 | GeorgeS069 | other stuff resolves just fine |
| 00:04.55 | GeorgeS069 | yahoo.com google.com |
| 00:05.00 | owh | What does nslookup say? |
| 00:05.23 | GeorgeS069 | *** Can't find pool.ntp.org: No answer |
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| 00:05.56 | owh | What about launching nslookup, changing the server, then doing a lookup for pool.ntp.org? |
| 00:06.28 | jelly-home | "host pool.ntp.org" replies with some 15 ip numbers here |
| 00:06.39 | owh | jelly-home: Yeah, here too... |
| 00:07.01 | Eulex | 13! |
| 00:07.02 | jelly-home | GeorgeS069: perhaps you block long DNS replies in some way? |
| 00:07.24 | beardy | Heh, yeah, "hundreds" were a bit on the positive side.. |
| 00:07.35 | GeorgeS069 | I don't think so...it's a pretty basic dns setup |
| 00:08.17 | owh | GeorgeS069: Did it used to work, or has it never worked? |
| 00:08.48 | jelly-home | GeorgeS069: I was thinking more "iptables", not dns... |
| 00:08.48 | GeorgeS069 | I dunno....first time I ever looked at it |
| 00:08.55 | owh | Heh |
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| 00:09.23 | GeorgeS069 | if I get in nslookup how do I tell it to use another server? |
| 00:09.33 | owh | use the 'server' command |
| 00:09.36 | lutin_triste | hmm wich package do i need to install the ati fglrx drivers on debian 3.1 correctly ? |
| 00:09.41 | owh | Also, you can turn on debugging. |
| 00:09.59 | jelly-home | GeorgeS069: nslookup query dns-server |
| 00:10.14 | jelly-home | GeorgeS069: second arg. is dns server. |
| 00:10.15 | GeorgeS069 | lol...I get like 13 from ISP's nameserver |
| 00:10.28 | owh | jelly-home: Nah, simpler to use nslookup in commandline mode. |
| 00:10.37 | jelly-home | owh: not. |
| 00:10.40 | jelly-home | owh: not. |
| 00:10.43 | jelly-home | um |
| 00:10.55 | owh | GeorgeS069: So, set the server to your own dns, then turn on debugging, then do a query. |
| 00:11.38 | owh | GeorgeS069: Thus: "nslookup" "debug" "ntp.pool.org" "ctrl-d" |
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| 00:15.19 | lutin_triste | is it possible to install the ati drivers on debian stable using their installer ? |
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| 00:15.47 | zamaliphe | thanks all |
| 00:16.03 | abrotman | !ati |
| 00:16.03 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for etch/sid see <fglrx> |
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| 00:18.57 | lutin_triste | hmm |
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| 00:20.14 | nbt | (not a debian question) hi , someone knows how to play a wave file through the modem i mean: i sent at&cls=8|at+vls|at+vtx and the modem replied CONNECT but then i can issue nothing ; how can a wav been sent ? |
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| 00:23.43 | lutin_triste | when im trying to install ati drivers on sarge i get -> http://channels.debian.net/paste/2864 |
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| 00:29.23 | killown | as I do login and password automatic? |
| 00:29.24 | stazich | hi, ia am trying to get X to start, and seem to be following through the directions as stated on the sites and people have luck with but i keep having same problem.. i believe the error is to do something with the fonts. like i dont have any. does anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 00:30.28 | stazich | the erro message that i get is: could not open default font "fexed". |
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| 00:31.04 | dongs | perhaps installing the "default font fexed" (which is "fixed" by the way) would be a good solution! |
| 00:31.12 | GeorgeS069 | lol...works now:) |
| 00:31.45 | stazich | dongs, how do i do that? |
| 00:31.54 | zeroth404 | anyone: For the life of me I cannot figure out how to get this NFS server to allow this client to connect to it.... |
| 00:32.15 | dongs | well ,installing x11 fonts would be a start |
| 00:32.57 | stazich | budyy,whats the command? |
| 00:33.02 | USmarine | stazich, hmmm... apt-get install x-window-system |
| 00:33.14 | lo | apt-get install windows |
| 00:33.37 | Shadowcat | mv lo /dev/null |
| 00:33.47 | lo | rofl |
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| 00:33.52 | Arvind-NL | hello |
| 00:33.53 | stazich | lo, u carck me up. seriously. USmarine, i have already done that. didnt help |
| 00:33.55 | Shadowcat | !rofl |
| 00:34.01 | Shadowcat | !test |
| 00:34.01 | dpkg | No, shadowcat, you're not online any more. |
| 00:34.04 | Shadowcat | hmmm |
| 00:34.54 | Arvind-NL | why is it that i can't reach my webserver from my own computer exept from other computers? I bridged my router/modem to my server... |
| 00:35.43 | GeorgeS069 | Arvind-NL: can you ping the IP of the webserver from your pc? |
| 00:36.30 | Arvind-NL | yes, it returns a intern ip adress |
| 00:37.37 | GeorgeS069 | Arvind-NL: and other pc's in your LAN can reach the webserver but,not this one PC? |
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| 00:37.57 | Arvind-NL | GeorgeS069: I dunno, havn't tested yet, it's in a home setup env. |
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| 00:38.44 | GeorgeS069 | Arvind-NL: so you can only connect to the webserver from the PC running the service? |
| 00:39.14 | GeorgeS069 | could be a firewall blocking inbound port 80 |
| 00:39.40 | stazich | what would be a command for apt-get to reinstall a package? |
| 00:39.40 | Arvind-NL | GeorgeS069: I can connect from other pc's across the internet(I used proxy to test it), and I can't connect from the webserver machine to 'localhost' fine, or using intern ip on the webserver and my computer. |
| 00:40.13 | Arvind-NL | but when using my computer it only works on intern ip adress |
| 00:40.14 | GeorgeS069 | stazich: dpkg-reconfigure pkgname |
| 00:40.39 | stazich | GeorgeS069. not reconfigure but to reinstall |
| 00:40.45 | GeorgeS069 | Arvind-NL: that sounds like a "routing" problem...I can't help you with that |
| 00:40.46 | Arvind-NL | GeorgeS069: well grc.com (shields up) tested my ports, and port 80 seems to be open |
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| 00:40.52 | Arvind-NL | GeorgeS069: can you reach arvind.dyndns.org |
| 00:41.01 | GeorgeS069 | just a sec... |
| 00:41.36 | GeorgeS069 | stazich: you gotta remove it first apt-get remove --purge pkgname then apt-get install again |
| 00:41.38 | USmarine | Arvind-NL, its working |
| 00:41.50 | Arvind-NL | how odd, not from my own pc... |
| 00:42.05 | GeorgeS069 | works from here too |
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| 00:42.36 | stazich | thanks GeorgeS069 |
| 00:42.43 | GeorgeS069 | you're welcme |
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| 00:43.23 | GeorgeS069 | Arvind-NL : I really think it's a router setting not set properly but,I don't know your setup or the router |
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| 00:43.45 | Azar | I need some help here, weird stuff happening: I have unplugged the ethernet cable on this box (the one I am ircing with right now) and still have a connection ! how this can happen? |
| 00:44.16 | Azar | omg, I am talking on the other line? |
| 00:44.16 | USmarine | Azar, maybe you have firewire interface on |
| 00:44.19 | GeorgeS069 | Azar Debian is magic :) |
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| 00:44.29 | dabreegster | Azar: Magic, a second connection, wireless, hallucination. |
| 00:44.36 | dabreegster | Azar: Either way, why complain? :P |
| 00:44.51 | Azar | see, the other box connected to the dsl router chockes on connections and I wanted to see if I disconnect this box, will be better |
| 00:44.52 | Cheshirc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.54 | GeorgeS069 | wish my PC would connect when I uplug the cables |
| 00:44.56 | USmarine | eth0, eth1, ethN |
| 00:45.13 | Azar | really strange.. |
| 00:45.34 | USmarine | i dont find it odd |
| 00:46.10 | GeorgeS069 | Azar : do a traceroute and see what the first hop is...that should give you some idea how or what you are connecting with |
| 00:46.14 | Cheshirc | lsmod (no nick) insmod (nick designation) ifconfig eth0 .. ?? correct? |
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| 00:47.05 | GeorgeS069 | Cheshirc : I think you use modprobe...not insmod |
| 00:47.17 | Cheshirc | ahh . ok |
| 00:47.25 | GeorgeS069 | then ifconfig eth0 up |
| 00:47.36 | Azar | GeorgeS069: I guess is the IP I assigned to this box, I guess is taking over the other box ip as well |
| 00:47.41 | Cheshirc | thanks |
| 00:47.42 | GeorgeS069 | or ifconfig eth0 down to shut it down |
| 00:48.02 | USmarine | Azar, if you have 2 interfaces, you have 2ips |
| 00:48.09 | GeorgeS069 | Azar : how many network cards does the system have? |
| 00:48.17 | Azar | GeorgeS069: down, then up so the real IP I assigned it to take it over? |
| 00:48.29 | Azar | oh |
| 00:48.34 | Azar | hmmmm... |
| 00:48.44 | Azar | I have a dsl router with 4 dedicated ips |
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| 00:49.00 | Azar | two PCs connected to it |
| 00:49.04 | Cheshirc | Azar : ifconfig shoud show active interfaces .. i think |
| 00:49.06 | Azar | each with its own IP |
| 00:49.15 | GeorgeS069 | Cheshirc is correct |
| 00:49.28 | Azar | yes, I did ifconfig, and I can see the IP # |
| 00:49.37 | FabParma | how to enable the mouse scroll? |
| 00:50.01 | Azar | but the cable is unplugged, the connection I have now runs on the other box's cable |
| 00:50.08 | GeorgeS069 | Azar How many devices does ifconfig list? |
| 00:50.28 | Azar | one eth0, one lo |
| 00:50.44 | GeorgeS069 | Azar you unplugged the wrong PC then :) |
| 00:51.09 | FabParma | how to enable the mouse scroll? |
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| 00:51.29 | Azar | nope, the other PC goes ok too |
| 00:51.33 | Azar | this one is unplugged |
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| 00:51.38 | GeorgeS069 | Azar : does one line say this UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 ? |
| 00:51.54 | Azar | yes |
| 00:52.03 | GeorgeS069 | then it's connected |
| 00:52.05 | Azar | I got both pcs running on a single cable |
| 00:52.25 | GeorgeS069 | 2 PC's on 1 network cable? |
| 00:52.28 | Azar | ok I wish to change the IP # on this one, how do I do? |
| 00:52.38 | Azar | GeorgeS069: yes that is strange |
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| 00:52.52 | cluck | hi all |
| 00:53.10 | GeorgeS069 | I didn't know you could splice cat5.....lol |
| 00:53.34 | cluck | does anyone know what i have to do to revert to using nv+mesa on xorg? |
| 00:53.36 | Azar | me either |
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| 00:53.59 | Azar | since I got this new box in february, I am having issues with connections on the other box |
| 00:53.59 | jelly-home | GeorgeS069: that line does not actually mean it's connected to anything, just the device is running. |
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| 00:54.22 | Azar | dpkg-reconfigure interfaces? |
| 00:54.26 | Azar | how it goes? |
| 00:54.36 | alexscott | !tell FabParma about mouse wheel |
| 00:54.52 | GeorgeS069 | got me dude...must be magic |
| 00:55.04 | GeorgeS069 | jelly: what would tell you it's plugged in? |
| 00:55.09 | Azar | GeorgeS069: do you know how to change the IP address? I need to change it |
| 00:55.20 | FabParma | alexscott: thanks |
| 00:55.37 | jelly-home | GeorgeS069: some (not all) drivers tell when the cable is connected in dmesg (kern.log). |
| 00:55.45 | Azar | I messed up with IP addresses that why I am running 2 boxes on one connection |
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| 00:55.50 | PierreTramo | hi! |
| 00:55.55 | Azar | hi |
| 00:55.58 | PierreTramo | i'm looking for LFS-enabled apache2 packages |
| 00:56.01 | GeorgeS069 | Azar edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:56.09 | PierreTramo | does anybody know a repository for that, please? |
| 00:56.18 | Azar | GeorgeS069: need to down/up while doing it? |
| 00:56.32 | PierreTramo | i really need it :( |
| 00:57.01 | GeorgeS069 | I'n not sure but,probably best to ifconfig eth0 down then edit the file and bring it up again |
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| 00:58.10 | jelly-home | GeorgeS069: also, I'd check the blinky light on the card. ;-) |
| 00:58.18 | GeorgeS069 | ROFL |
| 00:58.30 | GeorgeS069 | I do love all my blinky lights |
| 00:59.44 | GeorgeS069 | when I get really bored late and night I go down to the rack and do ping -f's and watch all the lights blink on the switches :) |
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| 01:00.40 | stoned | that is not healthy |
| 01:00.53 | stoned | its a sign of psychosis |
| 01:01.00 | GeorgeS069 | lol...that comming from a guy named Stones :) |
| 01:01.07 | GeorgeS069 | err Stoned |
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| 01:01.40 | dabreegster | It's more fun to play music and watch the graphic equalizer |
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| 01:02.24 | GeorgeS069 | I do that alot too |
| 01:02.28 | GeorgeS069 | I need to get a life |
| 01:03.09 | drasko | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.19 | cluck | anyone? |
| 01:03.23 | pilgrim | Hi all. I want to write some howto on installing ubuntu and other distros. What's the easiest way to do this? What's the easiest virtualization pack to setup? |
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| 01:04.46 | stoned | pilgrim, this is #debian |
| 01:04.50 | Azar | ook thanks GeorgeS069 |
| 01:04.53 | stoned | pilgrim, please ask debian specific support |
| 01:04.56 | stoned | mostly |
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| 01:05.35 | pilgrim | stoned, I'm awared that this is #debian. If you can't/don't want to answer my questions. Let other people do so. |
| 01:06.09 | stoned | your question has nothing to do with debian, why would you ask it in #debian |
| 01:06.41 | stoned | you should ask ubuntu questions in #ubuntu |
| 01:06.48 | stoned | really, Im not trying to be a dick to you |
| 01:06.55 | pilgrim | it doesn't have much to do with ubuntu either. |
| 01:07.02 | pilgrim | Is more of a _linux_ question. |
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| 01:07.16 | stoned | ##linux |
| 01:07.27 | pilgrim | I'll give that a shot, then. |
| 01:07.31 | pilgrim | thanks |
| 01:07.35 | stoned | sure |
| 01:07.41 | cluck | does anyone know what i have to do to revert to using nv+mesa on xorg? |
| 01:07.46 | GeorgeS069 | !ubunto |
| 01:07.46 | dpkg | hmm... ubunto is http://people.warp.es/~rubiojr/images/3ubuntu.jpg or http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/blog/2005/06/07?seemore=y#2005-06-07-ubuntu |
| 01:08.11 | stoned | hahaha |
| 01:08.14 | USmarine | any1 knows a good nvidia drivers howto? |
| 01:08.15 | stoned | thats a nice pic |
| 01:08.19 | gravity | pilgrim: You may want to check out qemu. It seems to be the best virtual machine setup that's free. There's also vmware which aiui isn't free |
| 01:08.57 | pilgrim | gravity, thanks. I'll take a look at qemu. |
| 01:08.58 | stoned | colinux.org is also nice |
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| 01:09.15 | stoned | it can be run under linux or windows |
| 01:09.23 | stoned | look at that one too |
| 01:09.32 | pilgrim | stoned, ok. thanks :) |
| 01:10.42 | stoned | gravity, bong |
| 01:10.45 | stoned | hehe nevermind |
| 01:11.08 | stoned | I should make a living out of constructing and selling gbongs, with debian logos on em |
| 01:11.09 | stoned | hehe |
| 01:11.34 | GeorgeS069 | "The Penguin Bong" |
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| 01:12.01 | GeorgeS069 | gotta open source the plans and write a how-to |
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| 01:13.00 | Miteorite | hello everyone. i did something stupid yesterday (dist-upgrade). Somehow it managed to ruin my /dev/, and now im not getting a console at bootup, even though /dev/pts is mounted and I reran MAKEDEV console and stuff. Any pointers would be very much appreciated. |
| 01:13.56 | pilgrim | gravity, Will qemu enable me to run a distro on top of another distro so I can take screenshots during the boot-up too? |
| 01:14.06 | gravity | pilgrim: I think so |
| 01:14.19 | pilgrim | gravity, have you tried it? |
| 01:14.20 | gravity | pilgrim: qemu is extensively used by the d-i developers, |
| 01:14.25 | gravity | pilgrim: Not for some time |
| 01:14.36 | pilgrim | gravity, ok. What about xen. Have you looked at that? |
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| 01:14.51 | gravity | pilgrim: No, although I know of it |
| 01:15.02 | pilgrim | ok |
| 01:16.10 | Miteorite | pilgrim: affirmative w.r.t xen. |
| 01:16.17 | Miteorite | you can attach to console as it's booting |
| 01:16.36 | Miteorite | it's a serial-like console, no pretty images though |
| 01:16.36 | abrotman | hrm .. so far today i've killed a mac .. dented my new car while bike riding .. and gave myself a gooseegg on my knee .. anyone need help with a Debian issue? |
| 01:16.54 | Miteorite | abrotman: read above? :) |
| 01:17.00 | pilgrim | abrotman, lol |
| 01:17.12 | abrotman | laptop? |
| 01:17.31 | GeorgeS069 | what group should be set for the postfix files? like main.cf and master.cf etc... |
| 01:18.34 | Arkaic | GeorgeS069: permissions? root has owner and group on my box here. |
| 01:18.55 | GeorgeS069 | ok |
| 01:18.58 | GeorgeS069 | thanks |
| 01:19.11 | pilgrim | abrotman, yeah laptop |
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| 01:20.49 | Miteorite | help me debian gods, i dont know init well enough =/ |
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| 01:22.06 | pilgrim | Miteorite, man init :p |
| 01:22.41 | Miteorite | that doesn't tell me why the login is not being started even though /dev/pts and /dev/console and /dev/tty* are all there :( |
| 01:22.58 | Miteorite | even though i can startup with init=/bin/bash and then start login manually |
| 01:23.27 | dabreegster | Do they still sell physical consoles for cheap besides on ebay? |
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| 01:24.38 | LinuxHelp | hi, has anyone seen kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386-smp ? I know there is a 686-smp, but for some reason the kernel panics with that one |
| 01:25.48 | GeorgeS069 | is spamassassin backported?think I got a really old version |
| 01:27.22 | GeorgeS069 | oh cool...it is:) |
| 01:27.27 | GeorgeS069 | yeah |
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| 01:34.47 | Mitja | Mistery here: lsof -nP | grep <device> doesn't pick it up, yet umount says the device is busy. It's /dev/sda6 and currently mounted. Any suggestions? |
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| 01:36.37 | Miteorite | you could umount -fl it. |
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| 01:45.06 | GeorgeS069 | how would I go about testing my spam filter setup? |
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| 01:48.49 | LinuxHelp | what package provides /etc/X11/X ? |
| 01:49.23 | LinuxHelp | or rather, how can I check? |
| 01:49.31 | abrotman | !search |
| 01:49.31 | dpkg | it has been said that search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. |
| 01:49.37 | dabreegster | LinuxHelp: x11-common |
| 01:49.42 | dabreegster | LinuxHelp: apt-file |
| 01:49.49 | LinuxHelp | ah |
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| 01:49.57 | LinuxHelp | well I have x11-common |
| 01:50.02 | gravity | LinuxHelp: xserver-common in stable iirc, xserver-xorg in testing/unstable |
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| 01:50.11 | LinuxHelp | and when I type startx it says that file is missing |
| 01:50.29 | LinuxHelp | I'm testing |
| 01:50.43 | LinuxHelp | thx |
| 01:50.47 | dabreegster | x11-common in testing, according to my /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.list |
| 01:50.48 | gravity | Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 01:51.46 | gravity | dabreegster: I think you're reading it wrong |
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| 01:51.58 | gravity | That symlink is set up in the xserver-xorg postinst |
| 01:52.14 | dabreegster | gravity: Oops, apparently so |
| 01:52.34 | dabreegster | I haven't mastered the whole "watch two screens at once" thing yet |
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| 01:56.50 | yipe | hi there, I'm new to debian, installing it on a second drive on my Ubuntu system, |
| 01:57.06 | yipe | I accidentally put in the wrong monitor settings during the post-installation process |
| 01:57.18 | yassine | is there any dyndns client i can use from an internal box to update my Public Ip ? |
| 01:57.36 | yipe | where do I go to fix this? I'm used to xorg and I see debian is using Xfree86 |
| 01:58.20 | GeorgeS069 | yipe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfre86 |
| 01:58.54 | yipe | I'll have to go back into debian to do that, I was hoping osmeone could just point me to the equivalent of "xorg.conf" |
| 01:58.55 | GeorgeS069 | oppps that's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:59.05 | dabreegster | That'd configure xf86, I'd guess. Try apt-get install xserver-xorg or xorg |
| 01:59.26 | gravity | yipe: If you want to edit directly, /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 01:59.28 | LinuxHelp | whats a really basic font package to install? I currently have no fonts |
| 01:59.30 | GeorgeS069 | or maybe xf86cfg |
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| 01:59.52 | gravity | LinuxHelp: xfonts-base |
| 01:59.52 | LinuxHelp | ^^ for X |
| 01:59.53 | LinuxHelp | ah |
| 02:00.12 | gravity | LinuxHelp: You probably just want to install x-window-system though. It'll pull in more fonts |
| 02:00.17 | yipe | ... the bloody things empty.... |
| 02:00.33 | gravity | yipe: How did you install? |
| 02:00.38 | yipe | netinst |
| 02:00.44 | gravity | yipe: And do you have xserver-xfree86 installed? |
| 02:00.51 | yipe | I do |
| 02:01.13 | gravity | yipe: Hrm... that's weird. Well, I recommend just doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and letting it fill it in |
| 02:01.16 | yipe | during the post install it asked for monitor settings and I accidentally put in some REALLY wrong ones |
| 02:01.21 | stew | gravity: i still owe you a bunch of scripts |
| 02:01.32 | yipe | okay, I'll head back into debian and do that |
| 02:01.34 | gravity | stew: Sweet. I won't have much time to look at it for a while |
| 02:01.42 | stew | i got unexpectedly busy, but i'm still hoping to get it done |
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| 02:01.45 | gravity | stew: Not for another two weeks or so. |
| 02:01.49 | gravity | stew: No worries. Me too |
| 02:02.01 | meppl | gute nacht |
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| 02:02.48 | rodrigokris_ | hi linuxeros |
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| 02:05.28 | LinuxHelp | great scott, I typed in startx and up came my enlightment desktop :D |
| 02:05.39 | gravity | Awesome |
| 02:05.45 | gravity | default font fixed is go |
| 02:05.45 | thd | ow do I specify the version of a package to install with apt-get install packagename? |
| 02:06.03 | gravity | thd: man apt-get will tell you. There's some switch to do it, but I forget what it is |
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| 02:08.01 | exobyte | is there a way to emulate a block device on one machine and have the block dev actually be backed by another machine's, say, hdd? |
| 02:09.00 | thd | gravity: thank you: packagename = version |
| 02:09.05 | tjousk | Yes, I read about doing that a while back, can't quite remember.... |
| 02:09.13 | exobyte | I think I have my answer- nbd |
| 02:09.13 | gravity | thd: No problem |
| 02:09.22 | tjousk | something like network block device? |
| 02:09.45 | tjousk | yeah that (: |
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| 02:13.10 | tonsofpcs | can someone suggest a console browser that can handle the linksys WRT54GS config page? |
| 02:13.53 | dabreegster | tonsofpcs: No clue what that is, but console browsers are pretty much limited to elinks (my personal favorite), w3m, links, links2, and lynx |
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| 02:14.21 | liable | tonsofpcs: links2 -g (if you got framebuffer support) |
| 02:14.59 | jelly-home | tonsofpcs: if it uses javascript, you're probably out of luck. |
| 02:15.17 | anabain | can ssh -X be used if I'm in a local Xsession? Or need I to be in real console at the local host? |
| 02:16.09 | tonsofpcs | liable: doesn't work |
| 02:16.22 | jelly-home | anabain: X11Forwarding, -X, only makes sense if you're running X, not in console. |
| 02:16.26 | jelly-home | anabain: so yes |
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| 02:16.45 | dabreegster | tonsofpcs: links2 -g needs svgalib, fraembuffer, or X |
| 02:16.47 | tonsofpcs | installing elinks and w3m now |
| 02:17.15 | tonsofpcs | dabreegster: yea, I know, I tried it before, it doesn't work |
| 02:17.15 | coward | how can I figure out what's causing file I/O in debian? I'm not doing anything on my laptop; yet every once 10 seconds, the laptop hD Led lights up and makes a small noise; I'd like to figure out waht's writing to my HD, and kill the process |
| 02:17.25 | tonsofpcs | (and it won't work from here anyway, no x ;)) |
| 02:17.28 | abrotman | fam? |
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| 02:17.48 | liable | you dont need x for it |
| 02:19.52 | liable | coward: get laptop-mode-tools and read the docs. mount your ext3 partitions with noatime, if it still does it, do the echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump and check dmesg |
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| 02:20.35 | coward | liable, cool; thanks; |
| 02:22.19 | anabain | jelly-home, ok, now I understand X11Forwarding, thanks |
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| 02:23.14 | tonsofpcs | grrr, even a force submit in elinks doesn't work |
| 02:23.32 | tonsofpcs | liable: I'm sshed in, I need X for graphical, and as I said, ti doesn't work anyway |
| 02:23.38 | dabreegster | tonsofpcs: force submit? |
| 02:23.53 | dabreegster | tonsofpcs: There is an #elinks, by the way |
| 02:24.32 | tonsofpcs | dabreegster: I'm not having an elinks issue, I'm trying to figure out a console browser that can change settings on a wrt54gs |
| 02:24.57 | stoned | tonsofpcs, you can telnet into the router, and modify the config files yourself |
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| 02:25.17 | tonsofpcs | stoned: what port? |
| 02:25.21 | stoned | 32 |
| 02:25.23 | stoned | er// |
| 02:25.26 | stoned | damn keyboard |
| 02:25.27 | stoned | 23 |
| 02:25.46 | stoned | oh oh nm |
| 02:25.52 | stoned | it won't work with yours I think |
| 02:25.55 | tonsofpcs | nope |
| 02:25.57 | stoned | I have a firmware which lets me do that |
| 02:25.59 | stoned | heh |
| 02:26.01 | stoned | sorry, my bad |
| 02:26.30 | stoned | tonsofpcs, what firmware are you running |
| 02:26.40 | tonsofpcs | original, let me find revision |
| 02:26.44 | stoned | its fine |
| 02:27.04 | stoned | just saying, maybe you should try dd-wrt, its one of the best ones |
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| 02:27.10 | tonsofpcs | v2.07.1, Feb. 26, 2004 |
| 02:27.11 | GeorgeS069 | or openwrt |
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| 02:27.15 | stoned | but anyway, to change setings, you need to login with https |
| 02:27.19 | GeorgeS069 | or the sveasoft ones |
| 02:27.21 | tonsofpcs | stoned: not my router, I'm just trying to help a friend |
| 02:27.23 | stoned | I dunno a console browser that I use |
| 02:27.27 | stoned | which can do https |
| 02:27.31 | astronut | lynx |
| 02:27.32 | astronut | elinks |
| 02:27.36 | stoned | elinks is good then |
| 02:27.42 | tonsofpcs | I can login fine, the problem is the submit button uses javascript |
| 02:27.52 | tonsofpcs | I tried a force submit on elinks, no good, it complains about bad form data |
| 02:27.53 | dabreegster | Ouch. |
| 02:28.00 | dabreegster | Look at the source and see what it does? |
| 02:28.20 | dabreegster | elinks is starting to get javascript support via spider I think, but it's not really working yet. |
| 02:28.30 | stoned | tonsofpcs, get a new firmware, I suggest hyperwrt or ddwrt, tftp to your router, and flash it with the .bin |
| 02:28.47 | stoned | tonsofpcs, then it will enable a telnetd on router |
| 02:28.53 | tonsofpcs | stoned: not my router, I'm just trying to help a friend, he wants the original firmware |
| 02:28.55 | stoned | plus, its updated, more features |
| 02:29.00 | stoned | oh ok |
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| 02:30.47 | jelly-home | dabreegster: my siemens router has something like md5-digest of the password in javascript before sending, so it's not trivial to see what happens even if I see the source. |
| 02:31.21 | dabreegster | jelly-home: Yeah, I've experienced similar problems. Things like rapidshare are too complicated to figure out by skimming. |
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| 02:32.01 | liable | jelly-home: doesnt it have a remote admin option. where you can get into it from the web? |
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| 02:32.33 | GeorgeS069 | my wrt54GS is enabled for net access but,you do have to have it enabled |
| 02:32.57 | tonsofpcs | GeorgeS069: it's not :) |
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| 02:32.59 | GeorgeS069 | by default it's local IP access only |
| 02:33.19 | adrakoa | is the symbol ^ a control || alt?? |
| 02:34.28 | adrakoa | is the symbol ^ a control || alt in bash program?? |
| 02:34.46 | GeorgeS069 | adrakoa: usually the ^ is ctl key |
| 02:35.11 | jelly-home | liable: that _is_ the web interface. I'm just complaining it requires javascript. |
| 02:35.41 | adrakoa | but it's sometimes alt,isn't it? |
| 02:36.15 | GeorgeS069 | adrakoa : not in my experience but,you never know...could be in some instances |
| 02:36.27 | adrakoa | ok, thx GeorgeS069 |
| 02:36.36 | GeorgeS069 | yw |
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| 02:37.48 | sandman | What happened to webmin @ Debian Testing/Sid? Also, how does one change how a Debian box appears on a windows network? More specifically, I need to change my workgroup such that I may communicate |
| 02:38.31 | GeorgeS069 | sandman : edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and do a /etc/init.d/smb reload |
| 02:39.01 | liable | sandman: webmin was dropped from etch/sid |
| 02:39.57 | GeorgeS069 | was webmin naughty? |
| 02:40.00 | sandman | liable: Aye. Did it violate some kind of licensing? |
| 02:40.49 | liable | sandman: i dont know the actuall reson for it actually |
| 02:42.30 | sandman | Speaking of legal issues.. why is bnetd still @ the repos? |
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| 02:47.00 | heatxsink | hello all I'm having problems configuring mod_perl for apache2 on debian |
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| 02:49.19 | xiphmont | well, that was a wasted day. Not a single installer listed for amd64 at debian.org actually functions right now. |
| 02:49.34 | xiphmont | [sorry, couldn't try Sarge, the kernel is too old] |
| 02:49.35 | mitja | Hi! How do I stop Xorg, but stay in init level 3? |
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| 02:52.05 | Coweater | debian doesn't use run levels to seperate X, if you're running a dm, /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 02:52.40 | Coweater | otherwise ctrl-alt-backspace or whatever method your window manager has to exit |
| 02:52.56 | xiphmont | "failed to determine codename for the release" |
| 02:53.12 | xiphmont | you know, when things fail, it might be nice to actually put the command line that caused it somewhere... |
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| 02:54.52 | GeorgeS069 | xiphmont : most things log to some file in /var/log/ |
| 02:55.20 | GeorgeS069 | usually syslog or messages |
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| 02:57.33 | sandman | 0600 == good permissions for /swapfile right? |
| 02:57.39 | sandman | Can I set those while the swapfile is in use? |
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| 03:08.06 | multi_io | I run "make-kpkg --us --uc buildpackage", in the kernel source directory. It prints: |
| 03:08.07 | liable | swapoff |
| 03:08.10 | multi_io | exec debian/rules DEBIAN_REVISION=2.6.14-10.00.Custom UNSIGN_CHANGELOG=YES UNSIGN_SOURCE=YES buildpackage |
| 03:08.13 | multi_io | ====== making target CONFIG-common [new prereqs: testdir]====== |
| 03:08.15 | multi_io | ====== making target CONFIG-common [new prereqs: stamp-conf]====== |
| 03:08.16 | multi_io | and that's it. |
| 03:08.22 | multi_io | it doesn't do anything. |
| 03:08.31 | multi_io | why? |
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| 03:10.36 | yipe | hi there, me again, X is working in Debian now thank you, but it seems like there's nothing in the repos that I don't have installed.... are there other repos, like a Universe or Multiverse? |
| 03:10.53 | yipe | I can't find an IRC client |
| 03:11.39 | liable | contrib and non-free? you have installed 'everything' in main??? |
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| 03:11.47 | dabreegster | yipe: There are plenty. bitchx, irssi, xchat... |
| 03:11.51 | gravity | You can't have installed everything in main |
| 03:11.54 | gravity | That's impossible |
| 03:11.59 | yipe | that's certainly what it looks like |
| 03:12.02 | yipe | not that that's what I wanted |
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| 03:12.12 | gravity | yipe: How much is in your sources.list? |
| 03:12.26 | yipe | on sec and I'll look for you |
| 03:13.02 | yipe | #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main |
| 03:13.02 | yipe | #deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main |
| 03:13.03 | yipe | #deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main |
| 03:13.03 | yipe | #deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
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| 03:13.14 | gravity | ugh |
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| 03:13.17 | yipe | sorry |
| 03:13.20 | yipe | but there it was |
| 03:13.27 | yipe | four lines, |
| 03:13.32 | Coweater | it's all commented |
| 03:13.38 | liable | um, they are all commented.. |
| 03:13.40 | dabreegster | Were they commented out like that in the file? |
| 03:13.42 | yipe | ah, you're right |
| 03:13.44 | yipe | yes |
| 03:13.44 | gravity | Wow |
| 03:13.57 | yipe | all I did it copy and paste the whole file |
| 03:14.07 | dabreegster | Uncomment them and apt-get update |
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| 03:15.28 | yipe | I wonder why they would be commented out |
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| 03:16.14 | yipe | okay, back to debian again |
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| 03:20.16 | xiphmont | GeorgeS069: this is before there is a real /var/log/ |
| 03:20.25 | xiphmont | the /var/log in the initrd ramdisk is empty/ |
| 03:20.45 | GeorgeS069 | sorry...just trying to help |
| 03:24.08 | smalltalker | Hi All, I use debian stable. I have a question that I do not know which channel to ask. I have an LCD monitor with both digital and VGA ports. I have an nvidia card (FX5500) with both VGA and digital ports. I have DPMS turned on to go 'standby' in 10 minutes. It works. But when I come back and move my mouse or press some keys on keyboard, monitor does not come back to life. If I hook up same monitor using VGA port, then it do |
| 03:24.08 | smalltalker | es come back to life when I move mouse. I do not know if I should look around nvidia options or call monitor manufacturer or read around DPMS etc., Can someone point me in right direction. I will be really thankful. |
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| 03:24.23 | exobyte | I tared up / and am transfering it to another system. How do I deal with /dev, or is tar *that* smart? |
| 03:25.04 | j-bit | exobyte: Not sure, but I think you shouldn't touch /dev. It should be dynamically created. |
| 03:25.22 | j-bit | exobyte: Like /proc |
| 03:25.46 | exobyte | j-bit: except.... I used tar on another system. All the stuff in dev was still on the drive |
| 03:26.45 | j-bit | exobyte: Well sure, tar will try to copy the block devices if you ask it to. |
| 03:27.37 | exobyte | j-bit: but this dev was unused. it was in /mnt/hda1/dev. my OS was knoppix, that dev was from a debian install |
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| 03:28.34 | j-bit | /mnt/hda1/dev is where the filesystem was mounted... it shouldn't be the raw block device itself. |
| 03:29.02 | j-bit | oh no I see what you are saying. |
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| 03:29.54 | abrotman | !moo |
| 03:29.54 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 03:31.01 | j-bit | exobyte: when you shutdown the system, devfs doesn't unlink the directories in /dev so you should expect to see some structure there on reboot. but I'm not intimately familiar with devfs so you may want to check the documentation. |
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| 03:34.00 | j-bit | exobyte: I'd urge you to check the devfs documentation but I am about 99% sure you shouldn't try to copy the contents. |
| 03:34.19 | j-bit | 99.9% |
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| 03:34.36 | sandman | Any recommendations as to where I could find documentation on how to install printer drivers for a hp deskjet 3745? |
| 03:34.44 | exobyte | j-bit: lol. if I do, nothing will really go wrong |
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| 03:35.22 | TechFly | Anyone in here use nxserver? I am trying to get it to work for the first time. I have it set up on my Debian box, and it seems OK. I try to connect to it from my winXP machine, it flashes the X screen for a sec, and then closes. The only thing that seems to be pertinant is it tells me "Info: End of session requested by remote proxy." Anyone know how to fix this, or where to find good info on NXfree? |
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| 03:38.22 | sandman | Looking for help installed drivers through the CUPS web interface for an hp deskjet 3745 printer |
| 03:38.29 | sandman | installing drivers, rather |
| 03:38.29 | aredhel | sandman, that is a hpijs printer so apt-get install hpijs or hplip is a good start. |
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| 03:38.43 | sandman | Done that, read documentation, followed instructions in /usr/share/doc |
| 03:39.04 | aredhel | sandman, so whats not working |
| 03:39.19 | sandman | Won't print test page. It gives the proper status messages however |
| 03:39.32 | sandman | Says it's sending the print job, etc... just that nothing prints |
| 03:39.42 | abrotman | !nx |
| 03:39.43 | dpkg | hmm... nx is http://www.nomachine.com/ NX terminal server client/server. Like VNC but faster, with security, multi-client. Partially non-free. #nx |
| 03:39.53 | jdhutchin1 | have you checked logs in /var/log/cups, sandman? |
| 03:40.16 | jdhutchin1 | somewhere something will tell you what's not working |
| 03:40.53 | sandman | E [17/Jun/2006:22:36:43 -0500] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized |
| 03:40.57 | sandman | Getting a lot of those |
| 03:41.32 | jdhutchin1 | you get one of those when you try the test pgae? |
| 03:42.13 | sandman | Yup |
| 03:42.22 | sandman | No matter what I try to do @ the CUPS web interface, I get a not authorized line |
| 03:42.36 | jdhutchin1 | well, you need to log in to the cups website |
| 03:42.39 | jdhutchin1 | it should prompt you iirc |
| 03:43.16 | sandman | I did, I entered a pssword and it accepted it. |
| 03:43.32 | jdhutchin1 | what user did you log in as? |
| 03:43.47 | sandman | First my user, then root |
| 03:43.54 | jdhutchin1 | well, you need to be root |
| 03:44.33 | sandman | I used root |
| 03:44.40 | sandman | I'm using root atm, actually |
| 03:45.00 | jdhutchin1 | what happens when you try printing something from the command line? |
| 03:45.06 | j-bit | sandman: are you in the print group? may be lp for line printer... If you are using root, that shouldn't be the problem though... |
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| 03:45.55 | sandman | Indeed. |
| 03:45.59 | jdhutchin1 | sandman, try printing it from the command line |
| 03:46.08 | sandman | I don't know how to do that |
| 03:46.10 | jdhutchin1 | (as root) lpr /usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps |
| 03:46.43 | sandman | lpr: Error - no default destination available. |
| 03:47.20 | jdhutchin1 | then add the -P <printer name> option |
| 03:48.10 | sandman | lpr: The printer or class was not found. |
| 03:48.19 | sandman | I used lpr /usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps -P "HP Deskjet_3740" |
| 03:48.30 | jdhutchin1 | -P goes between 'lpr' and the filename |
| 03:48.45 | jdhutchin1 | -P <printername> all goes in there between the lpr and the filename |
| 03:49.12 | sandman | lpr: The printer or class was not found. |
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| 03:49.20 | sandman | Same result. |
| 03:49.39 | sandman | After it asked me for the password the first time, it hasn't again... |
| 03:49.46 | sandman | Is there some way to reset it? |
| 03:50.00 | liable | try shutting your browser |
| 03:51.01 | liable | maybe restart cupsys |
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| 03:52.15 | sandman | Okay. |
| 03:53.11 | sandman | Okay. Restarted, tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log is still revealing Unauthorized lines |
| 03:53.44 | sandman | In the right pane of the Administration page, it says "Unable to open cupsd.conf file:", then Permission Denied |
| 03:54.18 | TechFly | For NX, does it matter if my server ver is 1.4.0, and the client is 1.5.0? Where do I find the older client? |
| 03:54.30 | sandman | There's nobody in my lpadmin group. Should I add root? |
| 03:55.05 | jdhutchin1 | it shouldn't matter |
| 03:55.09 | jdhutchin1 | root owns all those files anyways |
| 03:55.15 | sandman | Yuppers. |
| 03:55.23 | sandman | Should I give up? |
| 03:55.28 | jdhutchin1 | never give up, heh |
| 03:55.44 | liable | sandman: is the printer local or networked? |
| 03:55.46 | jdhutchin1 | have you restarted your browser? |
| 03:55.47 | sandman | Local. |
| 03:55.50 | sandman | Yup, and the daemon |
| 03:56.09 | jdhutchin1 | ok, I would try working with the command-line options |
| 03:56.15 | jdhutchin1 | lpadmin isn't that complicated, the man page explains it all |
| 03:56.29 | jdhutchin1 | and there are some guides (on the cups local websites) that talk about doing it that way |
| 03:56.39 | jdhutchin1 | you'll get better error messages and remove the web thing out of the equation |
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| 03:57.01 | liable | sandman: hrm, check your browser cookies, no idea if cups uses them, but theres gotta be something stopping it |
| 03:57.09 | yipe | yay, this is MUCH better |
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| 03:57.49 | sandman | liable: I cleared my cookies before I restarted the browser :) |
| 03:58.29 | sandman | OSS sure is complicated, tho. |
| 03:58.34 | sandman | Things are always broken that I have to fix :) |
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| 04:00.06 | liable | sandman: it does get easier with time :) |
| 04:00.42 | sandman | I suppose. |
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| 04:01.05 | sandman | I've been using Linux for about 6 years now, however :) |
| 04:01.08 | GeorgeS069 | lol....try setting up sendmail....everything else will be simple after that:) |
| 04:01.11 | sandman | It's always something new |
| 04:01.12 | yipe | what's the name of the group that allows sudo in debian? |
| 04:01.18 | linux2 | can someone here give me a cdrom line from their fstab file? |
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| 04:02.11 | iLLf8d | wierd move to oftc guess there are some personality conflicts envolved hope it doesn't stay like that |
| 04:02.27 | GeorgeS069 | linux2 : /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 04:02.30 | iLLf8d | s/en/involved |
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| 04:03.25 | sandman | GeorgeS069: Why do you use *nix if everything is so difficult to use? |
| 04:03.31 | sandman | Sendmail, for instance? |
| 04:03.39 | tuxplorer | neither the debian control file nor the preinst files contain the tar package's name.. then how does dpkg understand which tar package to package into debian |
| 04:03.41 | tuxplorer | ? |
| 04:03.45 | GeorgeS069 | I enjoy the challenge |
| 04:04.33 | sandman | GeorgeS069: What about rationality? |
| 04:05.13 | liable | yipe: just add the user to sudoers file |
| 04:05.51 | GeorgeS069 | some stuff is just as hard to do in windows...for me anyway...so I choose linux/debian because it's more open |
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| 04:07.25 | sandman | I'm not seeing how I can use lpadmin to improve this situation |
| 04:08.23 | yipe | where is the sudoers file |
| 04:08.24 | yipe | ? |
| 04:08.32 | sandman | Meh. |
| 04:08.55 | liable | yipe: man visudo |
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| 04:14.46 | SkyBlueshoes | can anyone tell me how I can get GD installed with my php? the apt-get doesn't seem to be configuring with GD enabled |
| 04:15.27 | GeorgeS069 | shoot...I just went through this...hang on a sec SkyBlueshoes |
| 04:15.48 | GeorgeS069 | gotta remember what I did |
| 04:15.55 | SkyBlueshoes | is the package not compiled with GD? |
| 04:17.29 | GeorgeS069 | trying to find the package I installed |
| 04:18.06 | SkyBlueshoes | ah, so I have to download from a diff source |
| 04:18.07 | GeorgeS069 | try libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl |
| 04:18.48 | SkyBlueshoes | not in my sourcetree |
| 04:19.15 | GeorgeS069 | are you using stable? |
| 04:19.23 | SkyBlueshoes | yeah |
| 04:19.41 | GeorgeS069 | maybe libgd1 |
| 04:20.01 | SkyBlueshoes | libgdbm3? |
| 04:20.30 | GeorgeS069 | nah...that's not it |
| 04:20.37 | SkyBlueshoes | what about libgdbmg1-dev |
| 04:20.54 | GeorgeS069 | try apt-cache search libgd |
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| 04:22.01 | LinuxNIT | so a freind of mine has a video he wants to stream in linux. but the site streams you the lowest quality if it cant communicate with windows media player for the best quality for your connection. is there a way to force a higher quality? |
| 04:22.36 | SkyBlueshoes | actually GeorgeS069 I just had to dpkg-reconfigure php5-gd libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 04:22.42 | SkyBlueshoes | now it's working |
| 04:22.46 | SkyBlueshoes | thanks anyway, though |
| 04:22.48 | GeorgeS069 | ok...cool |
| 04:22.52 | GeorgeS069 | I tried |
| 04:23.10 | SkyBlueshoes | yeah, apparently it wasn't configured in apache's something or other |
| 04:23.15 | GeorgeS069 | I had alot of problems with that while setting up maia-mailuard |
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| 04:24.10 | GeorgeS069 | might need to restart apache after you install some stuff of that type |
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| 04:28.33 | iLLf8d | LinuxNIT, sounds like you'll need to look at their javascript and feed it what it wants so it'll streamya the best possible connection (tho I could be wrong) |
| 04:28.49 | mckenan | strange. with konqueror, i open the dir /usr/X11R6/bin/X11 and i am in another X11 dir with same content and this keep repeating as i keep opening dir X11. can someone explain what is happening? |
| 04:29.06 | LinuxNIT | iLLf8d, hmm thanks but i think thats a bit over my head :-/ |
| 04:29.49 | iLLf8d | LinuxNIT, sometimes you can just check the pages source and connect to it directly depending on what they're streaming to you |
| 04:30.01 | LinuxNIT | iLLf8d, k ill check that |
| 04:30.03 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 04:30.08 | iLLf8d | LinuxNIT, there are a few of the youtube style sites that you can do it on (don't recall which ones I've done it to) |
| 04:30.36 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 04:30.40 | LinuxNIT | i appreciate it |
| 04:30.42 | iLLf8d | theres a disclaimer in there that usually talks about banning you if you do it but I've never had any problems in that reguard use it at your own risk tho |
| 04:30.58 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
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| 04:32.25 | Strayhikari | Hey, just wanted to make sure I'm in the right channel, running Etch2 and need to get some wireless working, this the right place? |
| 04:33.57 | iLLf8d | yeah probably seems noones overly responsive tonight |
| 04:34.28 | Strayhikari | It seems like some people hvae moved to irc.debian.org |
| 04:34.37 | Strayhikari | You think you could help me ILLf8d? |
| 04:34.42 | iLLf8d | possibly |
| 04:34.45 | iLLf8d | whats up? |
| 04:34.46 | rage | irc.debian.org is just a link to freenode isnt it? |
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| 04:34.59 | iLLf8d | no not really I think its linking to oftc now |
| 04:35.10 | Strayhikari | ah |
| 04:35.18 | iLLf8d | but we'll see if it lasts theres too much going on over here on freeload for it to remain I'm guessing |
| 04:35.20 | Strayhikari | umm need to get wireless working |
| 04:35.27 | Strayhikari | just bought a new pcmcia card for my laptop |
| 04:35.40 | rage | what brand is it? |
| 04:36.11 | iLLf8d | Strayhikari, you need to check the make/model and pci infos |
| 04:36.21 | Strayhikari | ok |
| 04:36.31 | iLLf8d | and version number too if you can |
| 04:36.35 | iLLf8d | usually listed on the card itself |
| 04:36.45 | iLLf8d | then do a google search and see if its a supported chipset |
| 04:36.54 | rage | lspci doesnt list pcmcia cards unfortunately |
| 04:37.07 | iLLf8d | sorry cardinfo maybe |
| 04:37.10 | iLLf8d | Im a bit rusty |
| 04:37.10 | Strayhikari | It is a Netgear WG511T, the chipset is Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) |
| 04:37.16 | Strayhikari | I'm running Etch 2 |
| 04:37.21 | Strayhikari | shoudl be supported |
| 04:37.23 | mckenan | whne i do a 'ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin', I have X11->. this means X11 is a symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin. This can't be right, can it? |
| 04:37.25 | iLLf8d | my newer lappy didn't need my pcmcia wlan cards the way my tp did |
| 04:37.28 | liable | !madwifi |
| 04:37.28 | dpkg | from memory, madwifi is for ATHEROS chipset wireless devices more information can be found at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian, or type "/join #madwifi" in your client now, or http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi, or to install madwifi drivers built against standard Debian kernel images (woody/sarge only) see '/msg dpkg madwifi-install' see also madwifi.one.liner |
| 04:37.30 | Arkaic | Strayhikari: I have one of those with debian testing. should work fine |
| 04:37.31 | iLLf8d | or is it cardctl |
| 04:38.07 | Strayhikari | ok, I cna't seem to get it to work Arkaic, you have to do anything specific? |
| 04:38.10 | Arkaic | I've always used lspci for pcmcia card details |
| 04:38.13 | comsa | just used irc.debin.org 200 + users on debian chanel |
| 04:38.41 | iLLf8d | Strayhikari, read liable !madwifi response |
| 04:39.15 | iLLf8d | often the bots have alot of goodness in them and if thats not working try messaging apt a listkeys atheros in case theres something newer/different |
| 04:39.46 | mckenan | nobody seems to know about dir and symlink here. |
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| 04:40.33 | zeroth404 | Anyone: whats the escape code for windows style line endings? \r\n or something ... |
| 04:40.36 | iLLf8d | Strayhikari, the -> see '/msg dpkg madwifi-install' looks like a good one (just a guess) |
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| 04:41.52 | liable | Strayhikari: madwifi.org has some good docs |
| 04:42.26 | zeroth404 | anyone? |
| 04:42.42 | iLLf8d | Strayhikari, i've only done prism, atmel and ralink pcmcia card before on the various nixes sorry I don't have more definitive help forya |
| 04:42.43 | zeroth404 | very simple question to answer :-) |
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| 04:45.40 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, whats the escape code for windows style line endings? \r\n or something ... |
| 04:45.50 | iLLf8d | in where? |
| 04:45.54 | exobyte | is there anything wrong with this line in menu.lst? kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro console=tty0 console=ttyS0,19200n8 |
| 04:45.56 | zeroth404 | huh? |
| 04:45.56 | iLLf8d | \r\n works in python |
| 04:46.08 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, is that correct though? |
| 04:46.09 | iLLf8d | works on irc servers too |
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| 04:46.19 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, Ipulled that out of my ass... I just know its two codes |
| 04:46.34 | zeroth404 | try\r\nthis |
| 04:46.36 | zeroth404 | dang |
| 04:46.44 | zeroth404 | you said it works in IRC :-p |
| 04:46.46 | zeroth404 | \r\n |
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| 04:46.54 | iLLf8d | well if you send it to the socket |
| 04:46.55 | zeroth404 | try /r/n this |
| 04:46.56 | zeroth404 | hmm |
| 04:47.00 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, ah |
| 04:47.08 | iLLf8d | actually you're right its probably forward slashes |
| 04:47.30 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, backslashes, unix style. IRC uses forwardslashes. |
| 04:47.37 | zeroth404 | =O) |
| 04:47.56 | iLLf8d | python uses forward too iirc |
| 04:48.01 | zeroth404 | kwrite won't find newlines...grr |
| 04:48.14 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, C/C++ uses backslashes. |
| 04:48.18 | iLLf8d | nope backslashes |
| 04:48.19 | iLLf8d | sheesh |
| 04:48.35 | iLLf8d | http://docs.python.org/ref/strings.html |
| 04:48.39 | GeorgeS069 | exobyte : looks like alot of extra stuff on that line but,I'm just comparing it my copy |
| 04:49.43 | GeorgeS069 | I don't have the console stuff |
| 04:50.02 | exobyte | GeorgeS069: that makes a difference- it adds a lot to it |
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| 04:50.14 | zeroth404 | sheesh. no KDE text editor will find newlines when I search for them. gedit does this :-p |
| 04:51.33 | zeroth404 | I don't think \r\n is right. `grep \r\n widows-edited-file.txt` yields nothing. |
| 04:52.51 | rage | zeroth404: Are you converting a dos file to unix? |
| 04:52.56 | rage | Sorry, just steppe din |
| 04:53.00 | rage | *stepped in |
| 04:53.00 | iLLf8d | zeroth404, whatya trying to do? |
| 04:53.01 | zeroth404 | rage, I'm converting unix to dos. |
| 04:53.11 | iLLf8d | theres a util for that |
| 04:53.14 | iLLf8d | dos2unix iirc |
| 04:53.20 | iLLf8d | or unix2dos |
| 04:53.38 | rage | Indeed |
| 04:53.42 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, actualyl, I wrote a bash script to do that a while back...haha. I'll look atit |
| 04:53.42 | rage | I was about to suggest that |
| 04:53.47 | iLLf8d | tofrodos |
| 04:54.13 | rage | zeroth404: apt-get install tofrodos |
| 04:54.27 | rage | its a small util :-) and it includes unix2dos and dos2unix |
| 04:54.48 | zeroth404 | rage, I'm on my gentoo box right now. |
| 04:54.49 | zeroth404 | hehe |
| 04:55.00 | rage | I think gentoo has it as well |
| 04:55.06 | rage | you should be able to emerge it |
| 04:55.54 | rage | consider its only a 40k app it wont take long to compile :-) |
| 04:55.59 | zeroth404 | rage, yeah...I'll have to --sync again. I just dumped my /usr/portage dir after an `emerge -e world` |
| 04:56.09 | zeroth404 | rage, hope thats not alien to you :-) |
| 04:56.52 | rage | yup, anyway |
| 04:57.05 | rage | this is more #gentoo talk |
| 04:57.17 | zeroth404 | rage. it was just a comment. |
| 04:57.23 | rage | yup :-) |
| 04:57.26 | zeroth404 | rage anyhoe gentoo doesnt have that package ;-) |
| 04:57.32 | iLLf8d | zeroth404, you'll get tired of it =P |
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| 04:57.38 | rage | aw, that sucks :-( |
| 04:57.47 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, tired of gentoo? |
| 04:58.02 | iLLf8d | yeah before there were stages, after there were stages etc... |
| 04:58.17 | rage | zeroth404: Google tofrodos |
| 04:58.23 | rage | first result |
| 04:58.27 | iLLf8d | if I'm gonna be running something with ports its usually freebsd |
| 04:58.35 | iLLf8d | packages I run debian |
| 04:58.39 | zeroth404 | rage, its not in gentoo's package repository. |
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| 04:58.45 | rage | I know |
| 04:58.51 | rage | but its in google :-) first result |
| 04:58.52 | j-bit | I used to use gentoo. I got tired of waiting on compiling. |
| 04:58.52 | rage | with source |
| 04:58.55 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, I love gentoo. |
| 04:59.06 | zeroth404 | rage, proaby a third-party repository. |
| 04:59.15 | j-bit | I loved it too... just not the waiting. |
| 04:59.17 | rage | na, its the creators website |
| 04:59.22 | rage | not a repository |
| 04:59.29 | zeroth404 | j-bit, onyl use gentoo if you're anal about having your system absolutely fine-tuned. :-) |
| 04:59.29 | GeorgeS069 | how do ya quit man ? |
| 04:59.37 | iLLf8d | zeroth404, to each his own nixes are too personal for each use |
| 04:59.51 | rage | iLLf8d: exactly |
| 04:59.52 | iLLf8d | zeroth404, its like telling someone which is the best wm or best editor =P |
| 04:59.53 | j-bit | zeroth404: yeah, its pretty cool like that |
| 05:00.07 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, I run debian and gentoo. :-) |
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| 05:00.16 | zeroth404 | iLLf8d, all distros have their place. at least the major ones. |
| 05:00.32 | rage | even the minor ones have their place |
| 05:00.37 | rage | a lot of them anyway |
| 05:00.39 | j-bit | I also had trouble with mod_perl2... I wanted something a little less bleeding edge... |
| 05:00.46 | zeroth404 | sorry. I didn't mean to start a distro debate. |
| 05:00.47 | rage | there is the odd one thats created just because |
| 05:01.12 | rage | zeroth404: its okay, the g word or the u word tends to start flames in here |
| 05:01.17 | j-bit | hehe |
| 05:01.26 | iLLf8d | I like installing and ripping out packages and reinstalling on the fly most of the time (I'm very impatient) |
| 05:01.43 | zeroth404 | rage, I wont even ask what they are, to keep the flames down :-) |
| 05:02.08 | rage | I'll give you a hint, the u word starts with u and ends with buntu |
| 05:02.22 | zeroth404 | rage, that made me laugh :-) |
| 05:02.29 | rage | :-) |
| 05:02.38 | zeroth404 | when did humans decide that "gh" should sound like "f" ??? |
| 05:02.39 | j-bit | rage, I was about to say, I laughed at that too |
| 05:03.00 | zeroth404 | it makes no sense. |
| 05:03.58 | iLLf8d | I'd rather figure out why the debian logo is a swirly and the freebsd logo a pocket vibrator |
| 05:04.41 | j-bit | yeah whats with the freebsd logo? Its kind of... ho-hum |
| 05:04.41 | rage | I like those logos |
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| 05:05.14 | nmsa | hello |
| 05:05.33 | zeroth404 | I have no idea what the freebsd logo is |
| 05:05.40 | zeroth404 | I never liked debians logo |
| 05:05.42 | nmsa | how do I recover a package that is broken or not fully installed |
| 05:05.47 | iLLf8d | I dunno theres no trendwhore in them, distressing gel letters 3d tentacles and other annoyances =P |
| 05:05.56 | iLLf8d | oh I'm forgetting the tiny type |
| 05:06.00 | zeroth404 | I'd prodly display Gentoo's 'g' or Slackwares l33t looking letters. |
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| 05:06.06 | GeorgeS069 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.06 | zeroth404 | proudly* |
| 05:06.28 | nmsa | GeorgeS069 this is the result after reconfigure |
| 05:06.40 | nmsa | I try to remove it ... |
| 05:07.26 | GeorgeS069 | nmsa : try apt-get remove --purge pkgname |
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| 05:07.39 | GeorgeS069 | then install again |
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| 05:09.30 | tjousk | hmm, just tried to do an update, and got weird errors when it hit python... |
| 05:09.44 | Dwonis | It's Sunday here, right? |
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| 05:10.23 | Jesset77 | Hey guys. |
| 05:10.24 | iLLf8d | apt-get remove --purge monty |
| 05:10.41 | iLLf8d | man i'm tired |
| 05:10.44 | iLLf8d | lo Jesset77 |
| 05:10.44 | Jesset77 | <- afeared of GPL. :) |
| 05:10.51 | nmsa | GeorgeS069: if I try -purge I get : Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. |
| 05:11.14 | nmsa | and then the removal is Aborted |
| 05:11.30 | iLLf8d | apt-get install --reinstall pkgname to help its state |
| 05:11.40 | iLLf8d | or were we there already |
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| 05:12.11 | Dwonis | Jesset77: then read it again |
| 05:12.16 | iLLf8d | Jesset77, they just want your pr0n |
| 05:12.23 | Jesset77 | .. or something equally sinister *whanh* |
| 05:12.34 | Jesset77 | well yes, but what if they don't stop at my pr0n? |
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| 05:12.57 | Dwonis | Jesset77: What makes you think you have anything that the FSF would *want*? |
| 05:13.06 | Jesset77 | I dunno |
| 05:13.18 | iLLf8d | they're looking for a new song |
| 05:13.28 | Dwonis | iLLf8d: eh? URL? |
| 05:13.46 | iLLf8d | sorry bad joke the band in revo os |
| 05:13.47 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 05:13.54 | Jesset77 | I just wanted to use gdbm as part of an application but now it looks to be pretty encumbered. |
| 05:13.58 | Dwonis | iLLf8d: yeah, I realized that after I said it |
| 05:14.58 | Jesset77 | That and I don't know of a delivery system. I don't even know how to obtain a copy of the source. |
| 05:15.03 | polishkoop | I'm trying to listen to a CD on debian sarge, kernel 2.6. I do mount /media/cdrom0 and i get mount: /dev/hdc is not a valid block device |
| 05:15.17 | Dwonis | Jesset77: apt-get source packagename ? |
| 05:15.44 | iLLf8d | polishkoop, you don't mount audio cds |
| 05:16.00 | iLLf8d | check your players settings to make sure it can find the device |
| 05:16.06 | Dwonis | Does anybody use secure wireless ajax for web 2.0 blogging? |
| 05:16.07 | Jesset77 | Everyone here always uses apt-get.. I heard somewhere that that might muss up my aptitude package database |
| 05:16.30 | Jesset77 | web 2.0 blogging is an oxymoron |
| 05:16.45 | Jesset77 | re: apt-get: that troo? |
| 05:16.49 | Dwonis | Jesset77: fine, if you're worried, then use aptitude source packagename (it does the same thing) |
| 05:16.49 | iLLf8d | polishkoop, you may also want to make sure you installed the little sound cord on the back of the reader |
| 05:17.09 | Jesset77 | ok kewl. :) Man I should learn to use my tools or something. Thanks! ;) |
| 05:17.23 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: what was that? |
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| 05:18.08 | iLLf8d | huh? the little tiny black connector with like 4 pins that usually goes on the left side of the drive looking at it from the back and runs to the mobo or soundcard header |
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| 05:18.29 | Jesset77 | CD Audio Cabel |
| 05:19.01 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: well if I can listen to cds on windows... should I bother checking? |
| 05:19.07 | iLLf8d | no |
| 05:19.17 | iLLf8d | its the device setting then or a symlink that might be missing |
| 05:19.30 | iLLf8d | check the device settings in the players make sure its the right device |
| 05:19.36 | Jesset77 | Unknown command "source" |
| 05:19.45 | iLLf8d | could be audio group permission too if no audio works at all |
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| 05:20.01 | iLLf8d | or mixer sound settings too (you'll just have to figure it out) |
| 05:20.05 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: I'm pretty new to linux. How do I do that? |
| 05:20.16 | iLLf8d | polishkoop, can you play mp3s? |
| 05:20.23 | iLLf8d | or oggs |
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| 05:20.35 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: yeah I used mpg321 to play mp3's |
| 05:20.46 | iLLf8d | which app do you use to play cds? |
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| 05:20.52 | Halitherses | I am getting the following error in my messages file:Xprt_64: cat: /var/run/Xprt_0.pid: No such file or directory. Why I am getting this error? |
| 05:20.53 | iLLf8d | or are planning to use |
| 05:20.57 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: right now im trying to use vlc |
| 05:21.10 | raden | how hard is it to get linux to be a print server i cant seem to get it to work for the life of me :( |
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| 05:22.05 | iLLf8d | polishkoop, oh hrm see if theres a config file for it check the man page or ls ~/.vlc* |
| 05:22.40 | liable | raden: using ipp? not so hard |
| 05:23.00 | iLLf8d | polishkoop, if so theres probably a setting you can add to it to specify the device, if not there may be a command line switch or you may need to generate a config file for it, or it could be in etc too |
| 05:23.02 | liable | raden: i'll paste my cupsd.conf to #flood if you like |
| 05:23.11 | raden | liable, please doo :) |
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| 05:23.34 | liable | sec |
| 05:23.42 | raden | k... |
| 05:23.52 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: i didnt see anything in the man about a config file |
| 05:23.53 | raden | soo you dont have to use samba ? |
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| 05:24.16 | tnks | Hi. I have a simple problem with setting up reportbug to use Gmail's SMTP server. Here's a pasting of a few relevant lines of my configuration: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2865. |
| 05:24.19 | iLLf8d | polishkoop, you'll have to ask someone whose got vlc installed I use mplayer usually or xmms for music |
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| 05:24.36 | tnks | Can someone help me figure out what I need to do. |
| 05:24.47 | iLLf8d | polishkoop, you just need to specify the device somewhere (on the command line, or in config or in the app itself) |
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| 05:25.20 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: yah I already tried getting help from someone who was using it. That's why he just said I should try mounting and see what happens. He coudln't figure it out either. |
| 05:25.46 | iLLf8d | lemme see how many dependencies there are maybe i'll install it quickly |
| 05:25.47 | iLLf8d | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.36 | iLLf8d | its not showing up is there a seperate source for it? |
| 05:27.47 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: nope |
| 05:27.57 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: are you using all caps? its all lowercase... just vlc |
| 05:28.29 | iLLf8d | I'm running etch atm cause my sid borked because of xorg issues a month or so back |
| 05:28.37 | liable | tnks: hrm, i think i added my default email when i dpkg-reconfigure reportbug |
| 05:28.52 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: hmmm hold on |
| 05:29.06 | iLLf8d | the website says possibly no etch vlc package |
| 05:29.31 | iLLf8d | Debian testing (etch) VLC is probably available too in testing, but due to the way testing works, we can't guarantee which version is currently available. |
| 05:29.36 | iLLf8d | dunno |
| 05:30.08 | iLLf8d | type man vnc then /device |
| 05:30.18 | iLLf8d | then hit n till you see something relevant |
| 05:30.53 | polishkoop | no its a really small man file |
| 05:31.03 | iLLf8d | heh go fish |
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| 05:31.07 | dererk | Hi all! :) |
| 05:31.09 | tnks | liable: okay... I'll try a dpkg-reconfigure. |
| 05:31.11 | iLLf8d | lo der0b |
| 05:31.40 | dererk | I wanted to know if it's possible to do a "downgrade" from Etch to Sarge |
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| 05:31.44 | dererk | do you know? |
| 05:32.03 | tnks | I used to use master.debian.org, but I guess that's no longer an option. |
| 05:32.52 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: here this is all the text that has device in it dvd://[<device>][@<raw device>][@[<title>][,[<chapter>][,<angle>]]] |
| 05:32.52 | polishkoop | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.52 | polishkoop | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.52 | polishkoop | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.52 | polishkoop | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:32.53 | liable | dererk: no. *much* quicker to back up and reinstall |
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| 05:32.58 | wlnet | hi, cannot open Xdisplay as non-root. Have following error. Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 05:32.59 | iLLf8d | dererk, dunno often apt knows how to go up see if apt knows how to go down usually the form is: listkeys sarge->etch so maybe reverse |
| 05:32.59 | wlnet | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 05:33.01 | wlnet | giving up. |
| 05:33.19 | wlnet | what is that MIT-MAGIC...? |
| 05:34.22 | Dwonis | wlnet: it's sort of like a password for accessing an X server |
| 05:34.25 | tnks | liable: a dpkg-reconfigure didn't prompt me for anything... looks like the same problem setup I had before. |
| 05:34.26 | Dwonis | wlnet: man xauth |
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| 05:34.44 | Dwonis | wlnet: or, it might be easier if you just install "sux" and use that |
| 05:34.47 | tnks | liable: I even did an aptitude "purge" followed by an "install". |
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| 05:35.24 | liable | tnks: hrm, ok, sec i cant find in my reportbug where my email is set |
| 05:35.46 | liable | tnks: ah ~/.reportbugrc |
| 05:35.56 | dererk | thanks both! |
| 05:35.57 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: yah I used that format and it's really not working |
| 05:36.00 | tnks | liable: yeah... you might be using your own ISP. |
| 05:36.18 | liable | tnks: yeah, i am |
| 05:36.22 | heatxsink | anyone in here a mod_perl guru? |
| 05:36.27 | heatxsink | please let someone say yes.. |
| 05:36.35 | Dwonis | !tell headxsink -about ask |
| 05:36.37 | tnks | liable: does your isp use tls? |
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| 05:36.45 | liable | tnks: no |
| 05:36.50 | tnks | liable: oh... |
| 05:37.12 | tnks | Does anybody here use Gmail as their reportbug smtp server? |
| 05:37.38 | tnks | I use Gmail in my E-mail client, so I know it works... just seem to be having problems with reportbug. |
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| 05:40.30 | wlnet | Dwonis: this happens after I do an upgrae. hwo to correct it? |
| 05:41.21 | liable | wlnet: i think this is a bug. try dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 05:41.57 | cahoot | liable: it's not some problem with Xwrapper.config? |
| 05:42.20 | wlnet | liable: i have done that. it only ask a couple questions. |
| 05:42.20 | liable | cahoot: i think so, unless i am mistaken |
| 05:42.33 | liable | i havent actually had the problem myself |
| 05:42.50 | cahoot | wlnet: look at /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 05:43.48 | wlnet | cahoot: what to look for? |
| 05:44.26 | cahoot | wlnet: like: allowed_users=console |
| 05:44.51 | Dwonis | Speaking of X problems, I upgraded X to 7.0 (sarge), which ended up killing my /etc/X11/X symlink. I just re-created it with ln -s, but was there a proper way to fix this? |
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| 05:46.00 | wlnet | cahoot: no Xwrapper.config or .conf |
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| 05:46.32 | liable | wlnet: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common should have written it for you, no? |
| 05:46.43 | liable | wlnet: check the status link in /topic |
| 05:46.44 | wlnet | cahoot: sorry, it is there. |
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| 05:47.15 | streuner | your tip (.au vs. .br)? |
| 05:47.25 | wlnet | cahoot: allowed_users=anybody |
| 05:47.27 | wlnet | nice_value=-10 |
| 05:47.48 | cahoot | wlnet: allowed_users=console works nicely here |
| 05:48.03 | liable | streuner: unfortunately, .br, though i would soooo like it not to be so. |
| 05:48.23 | cahoot | liable: huh? you from au? |
| 05:48.31 | wlnet | cahoot: it does? ok, i'll try it then. thks. |
| 05:49.09 | liable | cahoot: yeah, but dont hold that against me :) |
| 05:50.26 | cahoot | liable: well after ita vs usa - anything is possible |
| 05:50.32 | wlnet | cahoot: don't worry. i think i started with that, it didn't work and i change it to 'anybody'. |
| 05:50.52 | streuner | Dwonis: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 05:51.00 | Vasistha | hmm. how to remove the highlight from a search result in less? |
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| 05:51.48 | Dwonis | streuner: 2.3.6-13 |
| 05:52.14 | Dwonis | streuner: I have a custom apt preferences file, so that won't tell you what release I'm using |
| 05:52.43 | streuner | well, you running unstable |
| 05:52.46 | liable | cahoot: didnt see that match, in fact my telly sucks so badly i cant really watch it at all. know any streams? |
| 05:52.57 | Dwonis | streuner: sort of. I run mostly testing with some things from unstable |
| 05:52.58 | streuner | !info libc6 testing |
| 05:53.02 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-13 (etch), Packaged size: 4616 kB, Installed size: 11164 kB |
| 05:53.06 | cahoot | liable: sorry no |
| 05:53.13 | liable | :( |
| 05:53.19 | Dwonis | streuner: so I usually have unstable libc6 |
| 05:53.22 | streuner | Dwonis: so testing or unstable then |
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| 05:53.43 | liable | gonna have to stay up late tonight to watch, luckily i have no work tomorrow :) |
| 05:54.02 | streuner | Dwonis: do you know 'bobbitt'? |
| 05:54.03 | Dwonis | streuner: apt-cache policy x11-common shows that I'm using X from testing (version 1:7.0.20 0). |
| 05:54.20 | Dwonis | streuner: no, I've heard that nick before |
| 05:54.28 | streuner | !bobbitt |
| 05:54.29 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 05:55.02 | Dwonis | streuner: ah |
| 05:55.19 | wlnet | can this file /tmp/.X0-lock be removed? |
| 05:55.49 | Dwonis | streuner: well, that's fine then. "ln -s" worked well enough |
| 05:56.31 | streuner | Dwonis: there is a wiki page about a lot of X problems (unstable) |
| 05:56.31 | Vasistha | found it in man less ... Esc u |
| 05:56.54 | Dwonis | streuner: come to think of it, what actually happened was that /etc/X11/X was linked to /bin/true when I installed Xorg 7, so I just pointed it back at /usr/bin/Xorg |
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| 05:57.54 | liable | Dwonis: ah, read the x11-common install scripts. (i think thats the ones, been a while since it broke for me :) |
| 05:58.44 | liable | Dwonis: it is supposed to link to the new x dirs |
| 05:59.13 | liable | Dwonis: read the changelogs, iirc its explained in there |
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| 06:02.19 | Vasistha | running 'route' is not going to change firewall settings, will it? (Although its effect may be mitigated by a prohibitive firewall) right? |
| 06:02.58 | poli | Vasistha: it wont change any iptables config, if that's what you are asking. |
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| 06:03.58 | Vasistha | poli: yeah, I believe that's what I'm asking. I've not manually set up a firewall yet, I'm still doing it with a gui tool (guarddog) but I believe guarddog sets up ipchains and/or iptables ... which is what I think of as the firewall |
| 06:04.34 | polishkoop | iLLf8d: yeah about SSH, I could never get it worling. No one is ever able to get on my comp. I think my ISP MIGHT be blocking port 22 |
| 06:04.53 | tictac | polishkoop: use a non-standard port and try. |
| 06:04.55 | poli | Vasistha: If you are using a 2.6 kernel, most likely iptables. You can check doing a iptables -L |
| 06:05.11 | iLLf8d | well good luck and good night =) |
| 06:05.39 | polishkoop | goodnight all |
| 06:05.46 | raden | can torrents be traced ? |
| 06:05.47 | Vasistha | poli: hmm, iptables -L | wc # would have probably told me what I need :-) |
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| 06:10.07 | exobyte | what package is sshd in? |
| 06:10.21 | deadcat | openssh-server, ssh if you use sarge |
| 06:10.26 | liable | in sarge or etch/sid |
| 06:10.28 | Dwonis | exobyte: ssh, or maybe openssh-server, and also ssh-krb5 if you want Kerberos support |
| 06:10.30 | liable | !lose me |
| 06:10.30 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 06:10.50 | Dwonis | !pil liable |
| 06:10.51 | liable | i seem to be losing a lot lately :) |
| 06:10.54 | Dwonis | !pal liable |
| 06:10.56 | Dwonis | dammit |
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| 06:13.11 | exobyte | Dwonis: thanks. I just realized my sources were all wrong |
| 06:13.28 | streuner | liable: we all not become younger every day :-P |
| 06:13.33 | polishkoop | 17173 pts/0 R+ 0:00 grep sshd |
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| 06:15.04 | tictac | blah. x wont start due to missing default font 'fixed' |
| 06:15.15 | liable | streuner: yes, i seem to be aging rather fast lately. luckily i still act like a child, you know the old saying.. :) |
| 06:15.58 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 06:15.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd138 is <PerfDave> tkooda: SO READ THE FUCKING MANUAL FOR THE FUCKING THING YOU'RE FUCKING WELL UPGRADING TO, YOU FUCKING MORON! |
| 06:16.12 | streuner | liable: some of my teacher said, "We are all child, no matter how *young* they are..." |
| 06:16.23 | streuner | s/child/childs/ |
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| 06:16.36 | Silicon | ren |
| 06:16.39 | liable | s/childs/children/ :) |
| 06:16.49 | unix_infidel | LOL |
| 06:17.03 | Dwonis | s/teacher/teachers/; s/child/children/; s/they/we/ |
| 06:17.04 | unix_infidel | proof that teachers get paid way to much. |
| 06:17.14 | unix_infidel | oh snap :P |
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| 06:17.24 | StRaNdEdWiThYoU | how do i update the time? |
| 06:17.29 | unix_infidel | ntp |
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| 06:17.39 | unix_infidel | google it. |
| 06:17.48 | StRaNdEdWiThYoU | bash: ntp: command not found, ran by root :/ |
| 06:17.49 | Vasistha | !nickometer StRaNdEdWiThYoU |
| 06:17.51 | dpkg | 'StRaNdEdWiThYoU' is 99.710% lame, vasistha |
| 06:17.57 | tictac | pfft. i have no xfonts-base, therefore i dont really know where to go from here.. i did read the upgrading faq. |
| 06:18.01 | unix_infidel | like i said, google it. |
| 06:18.10 | Vasistha | StRaNdEdWiThYoU: let's see, there's a factoid on ntp and the date function... |
| 06:18.25 | streuner | !set time |
| 06:18.26 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 06:18.44 | Dwonis | hah! nickometer is an actually command, rather than just a factoid |
| 06:18.51 | Dwonis | !nickometer Dwonis |
| 06:18.52 | dpkg | 'Dwonis' is 0.000% lame, dwonis |
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| 06:19.04 | Dwonis | uh oh, that can't be right |
| 06:19.14 | streuner | Dwonis: its part of blootbot, so yeah. |
| 06:19.39 | Dwonis | ugh, s/actually/actual/ |
| 06:19.53 | liable | !qotd114 |
| 06:19.53 | dpkg | i guess qotd114 is <troubl1> how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? <abrotman> troubl1: what is your native language? <troubl1> its supposed to be english lol |
| 06:20.06 | omry_ | using etch. all the sudden, mandb spits out a whole bunch of errors like "mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/xtrapinfo.1x.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request", any idea why? |
| 06:20.36 | Vasistha | Dwonis: nickometer dislikes mixed case, underscores, and numbers mixed with letters. An all-alpha nick starting with a capitol letter is 0% lame ... I think ;-) |
| 06:20.40 | liable | omry_: iirc, theres a bug for that, i spose check for that package that has the symlink |
| 06:21.15 | Dwonis | !nickometer dondelelcaro |
| 06:21.16 | dpkg | 'dondelelcaro' is 0.000% lame, dwonis |
| 06:21.36 | liable | heh, that one is hard coded :P |
| 06:21.46 | Dwonis | !nickometer randomnick |
| 06:21.47 | dpkg | 'randomnick' is 0.000% lame, dwonis |
| 06:21.52 | Vasistha | Dwonis: /msg dpkg |
| 06:22.11 | omry_ | liable, looking at the bug. thanks. |
| 06:22.14 | Dwonis | Vasistha: Are we supposed to do that on Sundays? |
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| 06:22.17 | liable | np |
| 06:22.22 | Vasistha | heh |
| 06:22.24 | streuner | Dwonis: get the source, its in perl |
| 06:22.43 | Dwonis | streuner: I did a while ago, I just never bothered to look at it in that much detail |
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| 06:23.10 | iostream | I want to use the newest subversion release on debian stable, what are my best options? How hard is it to build a deb-package from scratch? |
| 06:23.54 | streuner | iostream: what package? |
| 06:24.02 | cahoot | iostream: can check this out: http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize |
| 06:24.04 | iostream | streuner: subversion |
| 06:24.14 | streuner | oh |
| 06:24.22 | g3brown | I'm trying to make a shell script to restore the lastest copy of a db from a directory of several of them. The files are named like 20060618-dbname.sql.gz. I need to get the most recent copy into a variable and I think I could take it from there. Is there a simple one liner for that or could someone point me in the right direction? |
| 06:24.39 | maxy | iostream: you could also just build it and install it... and not make a package |
| 06:24.49 | iostream | maxy: like ./configure, make, make install? |
| 06:24.54 | maxy | iostream: yep |
| 06:25.00 | iostream | maxy: but that breaks apt / the purpose of apt |
| 06:25.14 | Dwonis | iostream: hint: use "stow" instead of doing a straight make install |
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| 06:25.36 | Dwonis | iostream: of course, using apt is better |
| 06:26.02 | maxy | iostream: if you're an idealist... it doesn't break anything, I did that with subversion... |
| 06:26.10 | iostream | okay |
| 06:26.52 | liable | g3brown: try #bash |
| 06:27.01 | Dwonis | g3brown: if it's mysql, you'd run something *like* zcat foo.sql.gz | mysql -uroot dbname |
| 06:27.19 | omry_ | which package contains mandb? |
| 06:27.21 | Dwonis | g3brown: since MySQL dumps are essentually SQL 'scripts' |
| 06:27.32 | Dwonis | omry_: man-db |
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| 06:28.23 | Dwonis | wow, I've never blown away so much data so fast before |
| 06:28.25 | omry_ | :) |
| 06:28.27 | omry_ | thanks. |
| 06:28.37 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 06:28.43 | Dwonis | MythTV can certainly fill up a drive |
| 06:28.44 | iLLf8d | polishkoop, I dunno how either |
| 06:28.50 | polishkoop | alright |
| 06:28.57 | polishkoop | you want to give up for tonight? |
| 06:29.01 | iLLf8d | sure |
| 06:29.07 | iLLf8d | another night perhaps |
| 06:29.11 | g3brown | liable: thanks. |
| 06:29.17 | polishkoop | alright ill be on this tomorrow |
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| 06:29.26 | polishkoop | and i have ur name written down, so I'll catch ya later |
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| 06:30.04 | iLLf8d | cya |
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| 06:33.16 | liable | lol |
| 06:33.22 | liable | !qotd167 |
| 06:33.22 | dpkg | from memory, qotd167 is <dooglus> asg: the biggest package is linux-image-2.6.16-1-686. I don't do any image processing, so I think it's probably safe to remove that one. <asg> dooglus: that's the kernel |
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| 06:45.01 | Dwonis | liable: heh |
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| 06:50.21 | Korn | hey |
| 06:50.25 | Korn | can someone help me?? |
| 06:51.30 | streuner | !tell Korn about ask |
| 06:51.44 | Dwonis | streuner: bah, we were all going to keep quiet until he left ;) |
| 06:51.55 | Korn | streuner im having issues with my laptop the installation of debian doesn't, detect my network card, and i don't know what to do |
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| 06:52.22 | streuner | Korn: what does 'lspci -v | grep -i eth' say? |
| 06:53.26 | Korn | well im in the installation |
| 06:53.52 | streuner | open a shell and run that command |
| 06:54.04 | Korn | i did |
| 06:54.18 | Korn | it says this /vub/sg: lspci not found |
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| 06:54.41 | liable | heh, reading the #debian bans always makes me giggle |
| 06:54.59 | streuner | ok, something via 'dmesg' for your NIC? |
| 06:55.19 | streuner | Korn: what kind of NIC do you have and what netintaller do you use? |
| 06:55.55 | Korn | e100 |
| 06:56.15 | Korn | intel )R_ pro/100 network driver, |
| 06:56.55 | streuner | Korn: just /j #debian-boot and ask there. |
| 06:57.01 | Korn | i already did, |
| 06:57.19 | streuner | ic, try irc.oftc.net #debian-boot then |
| 06:57.27 | Korn | im there, |
| 06:57.34 | Korn | but they say they don't know, |
| 06:57.37 | Korn | so i'm stuck with it |
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| 06:57.49 | clarity_ | how do you list the packages that are currently installed with apt-get |
| 06:57.50 | clarity_ | ? |
| 06:57.52 | Korn | and ubuntu sure reconized the freaking ethernetcard |
| 06:57.56 | streuner | Korn: do you have another NIC? |
| 06:58.09 | liable | Korn: that card should definetly be supported. did you try the other kernel? |
| 06:58.13 | streuner | clarity_: dpkg -l |
| 06:58.13 | clarity_ | oh yeah and how do you enable shadow passwords? |
| 06:58.24 | Korn | liable the installer just come with one |
| 06:58.26 | Korn | linux26 |
| 06:58.36 | streuner | clarity_: dpkg-reconfigure passwd |
| 06:58.37 | Korn | streuner the other one is wireless |
| 06:58.50 | streuner | clarity_: or man shadowconfig |
| 06:59.02 | streuner | Korn: so get another NIC, they are cheap second hand |
| 06:59.48 | Korn | does the installer reconized a wireless card? |
| 06:59.49 | clarity_ | cool thanks |
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| 07:00.23 | liable | Korn: the installer have two kernels, which installer do you have? sarge or etch? |
| 07:00.40 | Korn | sarge |
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| 07:01.54 | liable | Korn: ok, just hit enter at boot then. |
| 07:01.58 | Korn | okey, |
| 07:01.59 | Korn | let me try |
| 07:02.20 | liable | Korn: though it *should* be supported in the 2.6 kernel. are you sure the card works? |
| 07:02.57 | streuner | Korn: so you using ubuntu installer? |
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| 07:03.34 | liable | hrm, thats right, he said it worked with ubuntu.. |
| 07:04.01 | Korn | i put linux acpi=on and let's see if it works |
| 07:04.13 | Korn | it frozed, |
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| 07:04.52 | liable | just hit enter, dont type anything |
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| 07:05.20 | Korn | i did and it frozed two, |
| 07:06.35 | Korn | the freaking module doesn't work, |
| 07:07.22 | liable | Korn: try acpi=no or nousb or the myriad of other kernel options. |
| 07:07.42 | owh | Korn: Perhaps some background information would be useful, seeing that your contribution spotted so-far leaves lots to the imagination. |
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| 07:08.04 | liable | Korn: no idea why it wont work with your card, i have one and every kernel i have used has worked with it |
| 07:09.03 | Korn | me either i'm clueless |
| 07:09.33 | liable | Korn: /msg dpkg laptop and see others experirnces if there is a debian howto on either site for your laptop |
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| 07:12.34 | raden | is there any disadvantage of using a network printer ? |
| 07:12.45 | raden | like a printer that uses cat 5 ? |
| 07:12.50 | liable | raden: didnt get it to work i take it? |
| 07:12.57 | cyzie | !bug 56923 |
| 07:12.57 | dpkg | bug 56923 can be viewed at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=56923 |
| 07:12.59 | owh | raden: If you network is down, then you cannot print, but apart from that, no. |
| 07:13.01 | Korn | /server -m |
| 07:13.01 | Korn | ircchat.terra.cl 700 |
| 07:13.15 | raden | liable, im ordering a new printer |
| 07:13.21 | raden | havent played with that too much |
| 07:14.22 | owh | I have lire installed, it generates reports once a week for syslog, squid and apache, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot get it to generate an apache report with actual content. It generates the report, but it shows no data. |
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| 07:15.23 | liable | owh: tried logwatch? though i dont think it does squid |
| 07:16.04 | mithro | hi! is there a document which explains the correct way to package unreleased CVS stuff? IE Like the packages which have dates in them? |
| 07:16.11 | owh | liable: Yeah, I recall that the reports it generates are not that, how should I put it, useful. |
| 07:16.40 | liable | owh: okay |
| 07:16.47 | owh | liable: It also used waaaay more disk space and couldn't from memory email a text-only report. |
| 07:16.57 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 07:16.59 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 07:17.39 | dorel__ | uhmm, any suggestions for a video editing software for linux? something like windows movie maker/ulead videostudio |
| 07:18.17 | dorel__ | i just need to cut movies into clips |
| 07:18.37 | owh | liable: I spent some days going through the lot of them, ended up with lire, all nice, simple install, all seems to work as expected, but the apache report seems to show there was no apache traffic. |
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| 07:18.48 | raden | is there any disadvantages of a network printer or one shared over samba ? |
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| 07:19.13 | liable | dorel__: take a look at cinerella, havent tried myself yet though. dunno if maybe avidemux may do that too |
| 07:19.20 | owh | raden: The questions you are asking don't make much sense to me. |
| 07:20.03 | owh | raden: What problem are you actually trying to solve? |
| 07:20.12 | Korn | is woody still available? |
| 07:20.13 | liable | owh: apache log file perms? checked the docs? i know awstats needs you to change the log perms |
| 07:20.30 | Korn | because the woody installed detect my, ethernet card |
| 07:20.36 | liable | Korn: yeah |
| 07:20.47 | Korn | cool |
| 07:20.53 | Korn | so from there i can update it to sarge, |
| 07:21.05 | liable | Korn: should be a link to old releases on debian.org somewhere |
| 07:21.47 | owh | liable: Interesting suggestion, the logs for syslog and apache are both owned by root:adm, but the apache directory is owned by root:root. Mind you, they're both readable. |
| 07:22.09 | owh | Korn: Which ethernet card? |
| 07:22.23 | Korn | owh all i know is a tecra laptop |
| 07:22.49 | owh | Korn: Then lookup the PCI-ID for the card and see what you find. |
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| 07:23.00 | Korn | huh" |
| 07:23.01 | Korn | ? |
| 07:23.06 | owh | Korn: lspci |
| 07:23.22 | liable | busybox doesnt have lspci iirc |
| 07:23.45 | owh | Korn: Also, your Tecra will have a specific model number, google will help you. |
| 07:24.14 | owh | liable: Fair comment. |
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| 07:25.14 | Korn | on the woody installer the ethernet card works fine, |
| 07:25.18 | Korn | but i suck with lilo |
| 07:25.35 | owh | Korn: Well, then with the woody installer, determine what the card is. |
| 07:25.46 | Korn | owh how? |
| 07:25.50 | Korn | do i find out |
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| 07:25.55 | owh | Korn: Likely it will still work under sarge, just might have to be loaded manually. |
| 07:25.58 | owh | Korn: lsmod |
| 07:26.19 | Korn | i have six modules, |
| 07:26.20 | Korn | running |
| 07:26.26 | owh | Korn: Which ones? |
| 07:26.43 | liable | Korn: is it the card doesnt work, or just dhcp doesnt work with the installer? |
| 07:26.54 | Korn | nls_cp437 ds i82365 pcmcia_core af_packet |
| 07:26.55 | Korn | those |
| 07:27.01 | Korn | liable not sure, |
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| 07:27.41 | liable | Korn: have you tried setting a static ip? |
| 07:28.16 | liable | Korn: or does the installer say no network card was detected? |
| 07:28.31 | owh | Korn: Which model Tecra is it? |
| 07:28.48 | Korn | 8200 |
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| 07:30.10 | owh | Korn: According to google, your ethernet card is an e100 |
| 07:30.17 | Korn | i know that, |
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| 07:31.01 | owh | Korn: Well, in the installer, load the e100 module. |
| 07:31.10 | Korn | i did |
| 07:31.12 | Korn | let me try it again |
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| 07:33.43 | GeorgeS069 | goodnight folks |
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| 07:34.09 | streuner | Korn: can you give us the output (lspci -v) for you NIC? |
| 07:34.18 | streuner | s/you/your/ |
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| 07:35.34 | Korn | owh it give me this error your network is probaly not using the dhcp protocol alternatively, the dhcp server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properly. |
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| 07:36.07 | owh | Korn: So, the e100 module loaded and now shows as being loaded? |
| 07:36.26 | Korn | shows? |
| 07:36.37 | owh | Use lsmod again |
| 07:36.40 | streuner | via lsmod |
| 07:36.42 | Korn | i did |
| 07:36.49 | liable | well, set a static ip then.... |
| 07:36.52 | Korn | and it has lots of drivers, |
| 07:37.05 | streuner | see if there a e100 line |
| 07:37.12 | streuner | is* |
| 07:37.13 | owh | Korn: lsmod will show you which modules are loaded, is e100 in there? |
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| 07:38.04 | streuner | Korn: why not just try etch beta installer now? |
| 07:38.38 | unix_infidel | anyone know a good gui gameboy emulator? |
| 07:38.50 | unix_infidel | i miss playing pokemon : |
| 07:38.50 | Alam_Debian | VBA? |
| 07:38.51 | unix_infidel | P |
| 07:39.01 | unix_infidel | i thought that was cli? |
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| 07:39.08 | Joint | damn |
| 07:39.29 | dondelelcaro | unix_infidel: what does it matter? The emulator just needs to load carts, that's it... |
| 07:39.38 | unix_infidel | carts? |
| 07:40.17 | dondelelcaro | as in roms? cartridges? |
| 07:40.40 | unix_infidel | oh. |
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| 07:41.05 | unix_infidel | well i'd much rather have a nice gui app. |
| 07:41.12 | unix_infidel | if i cant find one sure i'll use vba |
| 07:41.42 | dondelelcaro | well, presumably all the gui app would do is have a interface to run vba... worst case you could make one. Check freshmeat |
| 07:42.02 | streuner | Korn: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 07:42.36 | streuner | Korn: at the top are etch installers, at the bottom are the installers for beta etch |
| 07:42.37 | Alam_Debian | VBA in etch have a GTK GUI |
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| 07:44.49 | Yan^ | Hello people, I have installed the debian etch by WEB. i would like to make apt-get update regularly. However I also will be changing xorg.conf manually. Is it compatible? |
| 07:44.58 | dondelelcaro | Yan^: yes |
| 07:45.34 | Yan^ | dondlelcaro: thanx |
| 07:45.45 | jabka | how can i know whare sun-jre is installed ? |
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| 07:46.07 | streuner | jabka: dpkg -L <package> |
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| 07:50.14 | jabka | streuner :10x |
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| 07:50.36 | shark_ | hi |
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| 07:54.45 | Korn | okey now my network is working |
| 07:54.48 | Korn | i had to download pump, |
| 07:54.53 | Korn | and then it worked, |
| 07:55.10 | shark_ | :) |
| 07:55.28 | Korn | im so happy, |
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| 07:57.24 | liable | yay |
| 07:57.29 | Yan^ | hi Korn, what is PUMP? |
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| 07:59.47 | liable | Yan^: a dhcp client |
| 08:00.00 | streuner_ | !info pump |
| 08:00.00 | Yan^ | a, ok |
| 08:00.07 | Yan^ | !info pump |
| 08:00.09 | dpkg | pump: (BOOTP and DHCP client for automatic IP configuration), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.8.24-1 (sid), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
| 08:00.42 | Yan^ | !info kile |
| 08:00.45 | dpkg | kile: (KDE Integrated LaTeX Environment), section tex, is optional. Version: 1:1.8.1-3.2 (sid), Packaged size: 1281 kB, Installed size: 5217 kB |
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| 08:01.47 | cat | okey that's cool my laptop ethernet card is working, |
| 08:01.50 | cat | that's nice |
| 08:03.08 | cat | why so quiet? |
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| 08:17.24 | pinucset | somebody has a sony vaio fe21s? |
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| 08:20.46 | cat | !tell k-man about printer |
| 08:20.59 | cat | no such debian way, |
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| 08:24.21 | streuner_ | k-man: USB? what model? |
| 08:24.54 | k-man | parallel port, hp laserjet 3150 |
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| 08:25.07 | k-man | damn, have to go |
| 08:25.09 | k-man | bye |
| 08:25.10 | shaibn | hi :) I'm trying to get a hold of a driver for my SCSI adapter LSI21320-R Ultra320. They have the driver on their site but it is for RH and SUSE ... :\ |
| 08:25.27 | shaibn | and i'm using kernel 2.6.14.2 atm .. |
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| 08:25.52 | shaibn | i've also tried to read how to compile it for use with my own kernel ... but I can't seem to understand how to ... |
| 08:26.15 | USmarine | make && make modules_install |
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| 08:27.19 | cat | man i want to make buy some linux sticker, for my laptop |
| 08:27.31 | bluez | could someone please help me add the right info to sources.list, i just installed "etch" and i can't seem to find the mirror list now |
| 08:27.48 | bluez | and apt-setup doesn't exist |
| 08:27.49 | shaibn | USmarine, what are you talking about? |
| 08:28.03 | USmarine | "i've also tried to read how to compile it for use with my own kernel ... but I can't seem to understand how to ..." |
| 08:28.08 | streuner_ | bluez: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 08:28.44 | shaibn | USmarine, but there is no refernce in their driver on how to make it work with the 2.6 kernel |
| 08:28.49 | bluez | streuner_ one second |
| 08:28.57 | USmarine | bluez, |
| 08:28.58 | USmarine | #testing |
| 08:28.58 | USmarine | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
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| 08:29.33 | bluez | 2.3.6-13 |
| 08:29.34 | Api984 | hello |
| 08:29.49 | Api984 | does anyone use ndiswrapper for wifi |
| 08:29.52 | bluez | i do api |
| 08:29.55 | liable | bluez: apt-setup isnt in etch anymore, /msg dpkg mirror |
| 08:30.02 | bluez | thanks lia |
| 08:30.08 | liable | ble |
| 08:30.15 | Api984 | hi |
| 08:30.24 | Api984 | i have a slackware linux on my pc |
| 08:30.29 | cat | liable: is it easy to, setup a wireless ethernetcard, on debian? |
| 08:30.31 | Api984 | i got the card working |
| 08:30.33 | bluez | so why are you asking in debian |
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| 08:30.44 | Api984 | i cant get an ip address or dhclient wlan0 |
| 08:30.48 | streuner_ | liable: when does the fun start? |
| 08:30.51 | liable | cat: depends on the chipset, but yeah, if its supported it is |
| 08:31.02 | bluez | Api984 use dhcpcd |
| 08:31.03 | liable | streuner_: 2am my time :( |
| 08:31.13 | Api984 | tryed that too |
| 08:31.21 | bluez | that's what i have to use |
| 08:31.22 | streuner_ | liable: oh, so its at 9pm here |
| 08:31.32 | bluez | make sure that iwconfig has you associated to a access point |
| 08:31.39 | liable | streuner_: just trying a cardbus tvcard in my laptop to see if it gets the channel, if it works, i might try and see if i can stream the game :) |
| 08:31.47 | cat | oh okey, |
| 08:31.49 | Api984 | i checked that too |
| 08:31.50 | liable | streuner_: 18:30 here atm |
| 08:31.57 | Api984 | one problem in ndiswrapper |
| 08:32.12 | Api984 | in windows i get 20% quality and 66% signal |
| 08:32.14 | cat | is a wlan cardbus adapter |
| 08:32.17 | streuner_ | liable: ah, ok |
| 08:32.20 | Api984 | in linux i get 0 quality 100signal |
| 08:32.31 | Api984 | 0/100 |
| 08:32.40 | liable | streuner_: i think i dont have the v4l modules though, so i might have to compile a new kernel first :( |
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| 08:33.00 | streuner_ | liable: why not just use an official kernel? |
| 08:33.02 | bluez | Api984 like i said make sure your associated with an access point |
| 08:33.11 | Api984 | but it is |
| 08:33.12 | bluez | iwconfig wlan0 essid "whatever" |
| 08:33.17 | Api984 | did that |
| 08:33.21 | bluez | what does tcpdump show you? |
| 08:33.31 | Api984 | didnt try that |
| 08:33.42 | Api984 | i did cat /proc/net/wireless |
| 08:33.46 | cat | iwconfig wlan0 essid "whateveR?" |
| 08:33.59 | Api984 | i know that |
| 08:34.01 | liable | streuner_: they load slow as fuck with an initrd (i have grub/lilo/bios problems) and i patch it anyway, so i might as well use vanilla |
| 08:34.35 | bluez | api could you do this for me? iwconfig wlan0 | grep access and paste it to me |
| 08:34.35 | Api984 | does dmesg has to say for ndiswrapper that is waiting for data dhcp |
| 08:34.42 | bluez | no |
| 08:34.52 | Api984 | sorry i am in windows nor |
| 08:34.53 | bluez | what chipset are you using? |
| 08:34.58 | Api984 | now |
| 08:34.59 | liable | damn, i dont have support for the card.. :( |
| 08:35.05 | Api984 | atheros |
| 08:35.06 | bluez | yea what chipset are you trying to use with ndis |
| 08:35.07 | streuner_ | liable: hm, pretty late for .au people, they don't give a damn for .au customers then :-/ |
| 08:35.13 | bluez | why not use madwifi driver then |
| 08:35.18 | Api984 | atheros 5523 |
| 08:35.26 | bluez | isn't that supported by madwifi? |
| 08:35.31 | Api984 | not sure |
| 08:35.42 | Api984 | its a Siemens Gigaset 108 USB adapter |
| 08:35.44 | bluez | shouldn't you be looking into this rather than trying to bastarize your wifi? |
| 08:35.50 | streuner_ | liable: do you get a i-net stream for that game at all? |
| 08:36.11 | bluez | Api search google for madwifi |
| 08:36.19 | Api984 | ok |
| 08:36.24 | liable | streuner_: i dont have to work tomorrow :) i dont believe there are *any* streams available |
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| 08:36.31 | bluez | and to whoever gave me the deb line for sources.list thanks |
| 08:36.44 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:36.51 | liable | madwifi doesnt support usb atm |
| 08:37.28 | Api984 | no usb |
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| 08:38.05 | Api984 | so i use ndiswrapper |
| 08:38.10 | jetscreamer | any new insights about my #debian question? :) |
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| 08:38.44 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: heh? |
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| 08:39.07 | liable | jetscreamer: what question would that be? |
| 08:39.46 | jetscreamer | !knoppixuser |
| 08:39.46 | dpkg | somebody decided it would be a good idea to redirect username of knoppix to #knoppix. this is a BAD idea. |
| 08:40.16 | liable | indeed |
| 08:40.34 | liable | jetscreamer: you can always /nick |
| 08:41.02 | cat | damn |
| 08:41.08 | jetscreamer | liable: it's the n= the nick didn't matter |
| 08:41.09 | cat | my video card looks crappy with gdm |
| 08:41.10 | jetscreamer | in the ident |
| 08:41.17 | liable | jetscreamer: ah |
| 08:41.40 | streuner_ | cat: do you know what 'gdm' is? |
| 08:41.48 | liable | jetscreamer: ask don then i guess, theres certainly a legit reason to complain about that |
| 08:42.11 | jetscreamer | gdm changes font apperance. fonts look different if you use kdm, gdm, or xdm. also if you use no dm. |
| 08:42.35 | jetscreamer | liable: yeah my box wouldn't boot the debian install livecd only recourse. |
| 08:42.44 | cat | streuner_: ?? |
| 08:42.45 | jetscreamer | debian install. My box... |
| 08:42.55 | jetscreamer | (insert .) |
| 08:43.39 | jetscreamer | gdm changes other stuff to btw |
| 08:43.49 | liable | jetscreamer: so, ask an op to remove it. |
| 08:44.05 | jetscreamer | !seen op |
| 08:44.05 | cat | well my graphic looks crappy |
| 08:44.06 | dpkg | op <~Mick@dialup-4.225.110.5.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 551d 18h 24m 3s ago, saying: 'Here I Am to Save the Day!!'. |
| 08:44.08 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 08:44.10 | cat | with startx, and with gdm |
| 08:44.16 | jetscreamer | cat: you 'may' need more fonts |
| 08:44.28 | cat | X Error of failed request: BadColor (invalid Colormap parameter) |
| 08:44.28 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.28 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.28 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.28 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:44.31 | USmarine | cat, apt-get install x-window-system |
| 08:44.37 | USmarine | oops |
| 08:44.40 | USmarine | he left |
| 08:44.49 | jetscreamer | cat btw don't flood :) |
| 08:44.52 | jetscreamer | left? heh |
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| 08:45.09 | jetscreamer | he/she'll be back |
| 08:45.12 | jetscreamer | cat btw don't flood :) |
| 08:45.19 | cat | ok im sorry |
| 08:45.25 | cat | aany ideas? |
| 08:45.26 | jetscreamer | [03.44.34] <USmarine> cat, apt-get install x-window-system |
| 08:45.28 | cat | with that error |
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| 08:45.50 | jetscreamer | i've never seen that error efore myself |
| 08:45.56 | jetscreamer | !tell cat -about paste |
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| 08:47.12 | liable | anyone know a howto on setting up a stream? |
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| 08:47.25 | shark_ | what kind of stream ? |
| 08:47.29 | liable | and dont fucking !anyone me! |
| 08:47.31 | liable | :) |
| 08:47.38 | tonsofpcs | vlc |
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| 08:47.42 | liable | shark_: football! |
| 08:47.45 | aladin | hi , anyone know howto set up RAID 5 with testing-installer ?? |
| 08:47.58 | cat | still crappyh |
| 08:48.03 | liable | tonsofpcs: vlc can do it eh? |
| 08:48.21 | cat | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev |
| 08:48.21 | cat | 63) |
| 08:48.24 | tonsofpcs | i don't know, what are you trying to do? |
| 08:48.27 | cat | i have that video card, any ideas? |
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| 08:48.43 | tonsofpcs | find out what the card really is? |
| 08:48.48 | liable | tonsofpcs: stream the football if i get my tvcard to work |
| 08:48.54 | tonsofpcs | liable: vlc + v4l |
| 08:49.02 | tonsofpcs | #vlc and #v4l respectively |
| 08:49.07 | tonsofpcs | v4l == video for linux |
| 08:49.10 | tonsofpcs | vlc == videolan client |
| 08:49.22 | tonsofpcs | although you might want to use vls or vlm |
| 08:50.01 | liable | tonsofpcs: dont have a link or two? |
| 08:50.18 | tonsofpcs | the topics do (at least they should) |
| 08:50.26 | liable | i'll google, but if you have one handy.. |
| 08:50.29 | tonsofpcs | oh, sorry, it's #videolan |
| 08:50.32 | tonsofpcs | videolan.org |
| 08:50.36 | tonsofpcs | i'm tired ;) |
| 08:51.00 | tonsofpcs | i don't know the v4l pages |
| 08:51.09 | tonsofpcs | no good capture cards here |
| 08:51.26 | liable | ok, thats a start anyway, ta |
| 08:51.48 | liable | i got 7 hours to get it sorted :) |
| 08:51.57 | tonsofpcs | who is playing? |
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| 08:52.14 | liable | .au V .br |
| 08:52.32 | cahoot | liable: don't panic in worst case you surely can get hold of recording tomorrow ;) |
| 08:52.42 | JeffH | Is it possible to set up Linux to do a proper power down when the soft power button is pressed? |
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| 08:53.35 | tonsofpcs | JeffH: yes |
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| 08:54.06 | JeffH | is there a howto somewhere? |
| 08:54.28 | tonsofpcs | no clue, only ever done it automagically on a notebook |
| 08:54.35 | tonsofpcs | and i'm goin to sleep |
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| 08:55.15 | tnks | Hi. I'm trying to use 2 NICs. One for WakeOnLan and another for my normal network traffic. I really don't need any outgoing traffic on the Wake NIC. Any pointers? |
| 08:55.22 | aladin | Anyone know howto setup a RAID5 |
| 08:55.24 | aladin | ? |
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| 08:55.28 | tnks | I have the driver compiled and the NIC installed. |
| 08:55.30 | jetscreamer | cat: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/trident.4.html |
| 08:55.34 | tnks | but I'm not not sure where to go from there. |
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| 08:55.58 | liable | cahoot: i forgot i have a tv card for my laptop, i am hoping i can get it to work better than my tv, if its ok, i am gonna stream it, ##world-cup-2006 has a link, but the stream never worked for me. if i can get it to work, and even better somehow mirror it, all good :) |
| 08:56.11 | jetscreamer | aladin: there's a howto on tldp.org if that helps |
| 08:56.34 | Yan^ | Hello, I would like to build up a web server to allow to my friends to upload and download files from/to my comp. I am new to servers know nothing about it. Working on debian etch, however the others will possibly use windows. The thing should be easy to install (and to uninstall :)) and reasonably secure. Any recommendations? any good HOWTO to read? -- Thanks! |
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| 08:59.01 | liable | my connection is prolly to crap for it anyway i spose |
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| 08:59.11 | liable | gonna try it anyway :) |
| 08:59.21 | aladin | jetscreamer: Thanx , i'm trying to use the Testing-Installer .. it doesn't work |
| 08:59.33 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 08:59.43 | jetscreamer | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 08:59.44 | dpkg | methinks sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 08:59.52 | jetscreamer | try that one i hear aladin |
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| 09:00.05 | Shadur | Yan^: ssh, sftp. |
| 09:00.07 | jetscreamer | all i know |
| 09:00.24 | JeffH | anyone know if there's any place ot search for optimal kernel configs for well known computer models? |
| 09:00.27 | aladin | OK .i'll give it a try |
| 09:01.00 | JeffH | I have a Dell Optiplex GX110.. undoubtedly there's a kernel config out there somewhere that has all the right options enabled. |
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| 09:06.20 | jetscreamer | JeffH: i take it you mean like the -o3 stuff and not just what modules to compile |
| 09:06.42 | jetscreamer | azeem: funny how rephrasing stuff works eh |
| 09:06.53 | azeem | jetscreamer: huh? |
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| 09:07.08 | jetscreamer | carrot vs stick |
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| 09:07.18 | azeem | I am not sure what you mean |
| 09:07.43 | jetscreamer | a soft word turneth away wrath or something |
| 09:07.54 | JeffH | jetscreamer: I'm talking about a full kernel config that would enable/disable all the proper features that represent the system's capabilities. |
| 09:07.57 | jetscreamer | my lore is kinda loreless |
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| 09:08.36 | azeem | 10:32 < jetscreamer> !knoppixuser |
| 09:08.36 | azeem | 10:32 < dpkg> somebody decided it would be a good idea to redirect username of knoppix to #knoppix. this is a BAD idea. |
| 09:08.47 | azeem | I didn't even see this before I ran /lastlog on you now |
| 09:08.54 | jetscreamer | azeem: vs the earlier not so nice factoid |
| 09:08.59 | jetscreamer | 12 hours ago or so |
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| 09:09.13 | jetscreamer | moronic idiot...? |
| 09:09.15 | JeffH | I don't want to have to go in and completely configure a kernel when I'm sure 100's if not 1000's of people have configured kernels which are virtually identical. |
| 09:09.24 | azeem | jetscreamer: WTF do you think you ask question through putting up factoids? |
| 09:09.28 | Yan^ | shadur; wat d u think about proftpd |
| 09:09.57 | azeem | jetscreamer: we've removed the ban, we're now going to discuss whether to ban you temporarily for bot abuse and insulting behaviour I guess |
| 09:10.02 | JeffH | I really think the kernel configuration should be set up such that all you have to do is select your motherboard and certain config options are set/not set. |
| 09:10.02 | jetscreamer | azeem: no i made the factoids in anticipation that it would take a while and didn't want to have to keep re-typing |
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| 09:10.30 | sstormy | how do i add an init script to start on boot ( xdm/gdm ) |
| 09:10.31 | jetscreamer | azeem: feel free. i've abused nothing. i've been unjustly banned before. no biggie. have at it. |
| 09:10.42 | JeffH | config should be product based.. |
| 09:11.05 | liable | hrm, it seems i dont have the bandwidth anyway :( |
| 09:11.13 | jetscreamer | i'll be back in a year or so ? |
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| 09:12.04 | jetscreamer | and i won't even complain. |
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| 09:14.26 | cat | hey |
| 09:14.37 | cat | can someone tell me why my graphics look so crappy? |
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| 09:14.55 | liable | cat: thats how linux is supposed to look :P |
| 09:15.02 | cat | not really, |
| 09:15.08 | USmarine | cat, font messed up |
| 09:15.09 | JeffH | maybe it's just a bad graphics day. |
| 09:15.11 | cat | i have debian on my pc, this is my laptop |
| 09:15.16 | cat | USmarine: i don't think so, |
| 09:15.25 | cat | the graphics look so crappu |
| 09:15.33 | Mitja | Can anyone take a look here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WrMGow84.html ? Sound is not working and if there's any expert out there I would like to hear your suggestions on how to fix it. |
| 09:15.33 | USmarine | rendering? |
| 09:15.35 | cat | *crappy |
| 09:15.36 | jetscreamer | cat: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/trident.4.html |
| 09:15.41 | jetscreamer | read that? |
| 09:15.53 | jetscreamer | or is this xfree |
| 09:16.19 | cat | xorg |
| 09:16.23 | cat | i have a laptop |
| 09:16.24 | cat | im korn |
| 09:16.48 | JeffH | is there a web based kernel config/build on the web anywhere? I need to build a new kernel but don't want to install devel tools on my server. |
| 09:16.49 | liable | i am bunion! |
| 09:16.49 | sstormy | could anyone please tell me how to add gdm to the startup of the machine? |
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| 09:17.04 | liable | sstormy: dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 09:17.11 | sstormy | thanks |
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| 09:17.43 | liable | nobody gets my silly sense of humour :( |
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| 09:18.34 | MariusX | If there anyone who would help me set up my Laptop to use the GL of My ATI Radeon Mobility Video card? |
| 09:18.39 | cat | my laptop sucks |
| 09:18.59 | cat | liable: why on debian the graphics are so crappy but on ubuntu graphics look nice |
| 09:19.23 | eps | cat what version of debian? debian sid looks fine |
| 09:19.34 | superlinux | I have amule takes so much time in loading and starting up... I really cant know why |
| 09:19.36 | eps | sarge will have outdated graphics as it is rather old now |
| 09:19.41 | liable | cat: i have no idea how you have set up your laptop |
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| 09:19.51 | superlinux | I had it from the backports |
| 09:19.55 | cat | eps: sarge |
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| 09:19.59 | tnks | let me start with a smaller question about my 2 NICs... I'm not seeing my 2nd NIC with `ip link show` or `ifconfig -a`. How can I get it's MAC address? |
| 09:20.05 | eps | superlinux run amule in console and see why it is taking so long |
| 09:20.12 | cat | liable: can i tell you my videocard information |
| 09:20.21 | superlinux | eps, nothing much |
| 09:20.28 | eps | cat sarge is prehistoric :P ...I personally either run etch (testing) or sid (unstable - don't recommend you even look at that :P) |
| 09:20.30 | superlinux | eps, nothing much I can tell you abt |
| 09:20.32 | cat | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev |
| 09:20.32 | cat | 63) |
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| 09:20.43 | MariusX | is there anyone who would help me set up my Laptop to use the GL of My ATI Radeon Mobility Video card? |
| 09:20.46 | cat | any ie3qw? |
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| 09:20.52 | cat | *ideas |
| 09:20.57 | eps | are you complaining about how the os 'looks' or how games run? |
| 09:21.03 | jetscreamer | who's the nvidia sound problem person |
| 09:21.04 | jetscreamer | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Nvidia&card=.&chip=nForce&module=intel8x0 |
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| 09:21.51 | cat | for example when i run gdm the graphics they don't have color at all |
| 09:21.54 | cat | i wonder why |
| 09:22.02 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 09:22.08 | erudified | Has anyone ever considered making a set of packages for ACPI support for various laptops? |
| 09:22.10 | Mazingaro | please how can I burn .nrg images??? |
| 09:22.19 | eps | cat erm...cause some thing must be broken :| |
| 09:22.20 | eps | thats odd |
| 09:22.21 | jetscreamer | Mazingaro: nrg2iso iirc |
| 09:22.25 | tnks | MariusX: I don't think that's very simple request. |
| 09:22.28 | Mazingaro | jetscreamer: thanks |
| 09:22.30 | eps | tridents are a rather old card... |
| 09:22.33 | jetscreamer | try apt-cache search nrg2iso |
| 09:22.39 | cat | oh for real |
| 09:22.42 | cat | so what can i do? |
| 09:22.42 | jetscreamer | it may not be in sources though |
| 09:22.48 | liable | brb, new kernel |
| 09:22.52 | cat | because on ubuntu it was running nice |
| 09:23.08 | tnks | MariusX: assuming you have a Thinkpad, I'd suggest you look at www.thinkwiki.org or search the Thinkpad Mailing List archives (http://zurich.csail.mit.edu/hypermail/thinkpad/) |
| 09:23.11 | cat | colorfull |
| 09:23.15 | Mazingaro | jetscreamer: installed |
| 09:23.18 | jetscreamer | ahh Mitja |
| 09:23.25 | jetscreamer | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Nvidia&card=.&chip=nForce&module=intel8x0 |
| 09:23.45 | jetscreamer | i 'think' you need to use the intel sound module |
| 09:23.55 | MariusX | nah it is not a think pad. I have a Asus a2500d |
| 09:24.02 | eps | cat I would suggest that since ubuntu is newer it had far better graphics drivers for your card, where as debian sarge is kind of old now in comparison...I personally suggest you upgrade to debian etch though I'm not sure what this channels policy on that is :P |
| 09:24.03 | Mitja | jetscreamer, intel? |
| 09:24.05 | eps | !etch |
| 09:24.05 | dpkg | well, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 09:24.21 | jetscreamer | Mitja: is this an nforce board? |
| 09:24.34 | cat | so on my source list i put etch |
| 09:24.36 | cat | ? |
| 09:24.38 | eps | cat so if you choose to do that I suggest you google for a guide on how to upgrade from sarge to etch or ask for one in here |
| 09:24.42 | jetscreamer | read the link |
| 09:24.48 | eps | some thing like that, I don't remember step for step |
| 09:24.53 | jetscreamer | cat change anything that says sarge or stable to etch |
| 09:25.07 | USmarine | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 09:25.08 | jetscreamer | just the word. you'll need to change the security line also |
| 09:25.10 | eps | then it's like aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 09:25.55 | eps | I'm thinking etch should be being put in a position to be released some time soonish :P |
| 09:25.59 | Mitja | jetscreamer, it has NF in the name so I guess it is |
| 09:26.20 | USmarine | eps? |
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| 09:26.33 | USmarine | what do you mean? |
| 09:26.35 | cat | okay |
| 09:26.43 | cat | im updating to etch |
| 09:26.46 | JeffH | exit |
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| 09:26.56 | jetscreamer | Mitja: read that link, it may apply. not the whold thing, if you have a 2.6 kennel, but the basic requirements would be the same. |
| 09:26.59 | Mitja | jetscreamer, also amd mATX in the name |
| 09:27.04 | eps | USmarine well now that the xorg7 transition is stable and gnome 2.14 is there it should really be going out the door soon...get out one more release before all the next gen desktop stuff comes in (xgl/xcompmgr etc) |
| 09:27.12 | eps | kk cat |
| 09:27.17 | Mitja | ok, thanks |
| 09:27.25 | cat | eps: when is done upgrating, what video card driver do i used? |
| 09:27.26 | USmarine | what does gnome have to do with xgl ? |
| 09:27.28 | cat | vga? |
| 09:27.36 | jetscreamer | cat: still trident |
| 09:27.43 | eps | cat if ubuntu autodetected debian should as well |
| 09:27.44 | jetscreamer | did you read the link i pasted? |
| 09:27.51 | cat | eps: well it didnd't |
| 09:27.56 | cat | jetscreamer: nope |
| 09:27.57 | jetscreamer | cat: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/trident.4.html |
| 09:28.01 | cat | let me read it |
| 09:28.09 | jetscreamer | your_card is listed |
| 09:28.20 | eps | cat yes but you are getting a newer driver, the one ubuntu uses...so if it works there it will work in debian |
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| 09:28.39 | eps | how are you tonight jetscreamer? |
| 09:28.44 | cat | okay |
| 09:29.02 | USmarine | i really dont like gnome... |
| 09:29.07 | voltagex | can someone point me to a howto for multihead on one videocard (i810 on a laptop, 1xinternal, 1xVGA external) |
| 09:29.09 | eps | I like gnome :) |
| 09:29.16 | eps | USmarine what don't you like about it? |
| 09:29.31 | USmarine | too poor in terms of options |
| 09:29.37 | USmarine | not eyecandy |
| 09:29.40 | eps | gconfeditor |
| 09:29.49 | eps | you can edit EVERYTHING about it :) |
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| 09:30.05 | USmarine | yeah |
| 09:30.09 | USmarine | but kde has more apps |
| 09:30.18 | eps | it just doesn't clutter up the options menus with things people will never use...which some people love (like me) and others hate (the kde crowd) ...it's personal preference |
| 09:30.24 | cat | is etch sid? |
| 09:30.29 | jetscreamer | use something else and install all the kde/gnome apps you want |
| 09:30.35 | eps | yeah, kde is like the kitchen sink...where as I'm not a big fan of going over board with apps |
| 09:30.36 | USmarine | cat, etch ONLY |
| 09:30.37 | jetscreamer | no etch is testing sid is unstable |
| 09:30.37 | eps | cat no |
| 09:30.41 | eps | etch only! |
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| 09:31.01 | cat | oh okay |
| 09:31.12 | USmarine | beat k3b |
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| 09:31.17 | eps | USmarine I have around five kde apps running under gnome atm :P ...and a bunch of others |
| 09:31.21 | cat | i need to use framebuffer, |
| 09:31.37 | CrippsFX | has anyone else here had difficulties connecting to an AP with the native broadcom module? I'm running kernel 2.6.15-25-i686, and I can do "ifconfig eth1 up" and the light to my wireless device comes on, and iwconfig works, but "iwlist eth1 scanning" returns no results ... I'm practically sitting on top of my AP. |
| 09:31.41 | eps | USmarine I used to use k3b only now I use the 2.14 gnome inbuilt stuff or gnome baker |
| 09:32.19 | eps | CrippsFX is your ap in SI or AP mode? |
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| 09:32.50 | USmarine | beat kioslaves |
| 09:32.58 | eps | what is that? |
| 09:33.05 | CrippsFX | eps, it's a wireless router, and set in AP mode. |
| 09:33.12 | eps | also, it isn't beat it is 'find an equivilant' :P |
| 09:33.15 | JeffH | Is there a way to find out where a process has come from? I have about 8 'python' tasks that I have no idea why they're there. |
| 09:33.17 | USmarine | konqueror ssh frontend |
| 09:33.19 | eps | CrippsFX good question then |
| 09:33.28 | CrippsFX | eps, thank you ;) |
| 09:33.31 | CrippsFX | :P |
| 09:33.32 | eps | USmarine I do all ssh from the gnome-terminal |
| 09:33.52 | USmarine | i do too |
| 09:34.01 | USmarine | but some stuff is faster graphically |
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| 09:34.16 | USmarine | overall |
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| 09:34.21 | USmarine | i love the integration |
| 09:34.23 | USmarine | :P |
| 09:34.26 | eps | CrippsFX personally I'd wip out another card/ap and scan for it...though as I'm into home brew wireless I doubt you have the sort of gear laying around that I do? |
| 09:34.31 | USmarine | i dont wanna start a war |
| 09:34.43 | liable | stupid lilo.. |
| 09:34.58 | cahoot | USmarine: despite the nick? |
| 09:34.58 | eps | USmarine mmm remember I use gnome in a business setting as well as at home, and in a business kde isn't an option so I'm overly bias :P |
| 09:35.11 | USmarine | cahoot, blaim bush |
| 09:35.22 | eps | I used kde for around two years, then switched to gnome, and I'll probably move to what has the best eye candy in the next gen |
| 09:35.28 | cahoot | USmarine: blair bush? |
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| 09:35.38 | USmarine | blait is bush's pet |
| 09:35.50 | CrippsFX | eps, well, I have a pcmcia wireless card lying around. I know that my router is working though. This isn't the first router I've had troubles like this on. |
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| 09:36.06 | USmarine | the US is hated now because of bush |
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| 09:36.20 | USmarine | it wasnt like this while clinton was up there |
| 09:36.27 | deadcat | the installer looks jacked up. what do i need to do? sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/di.png |
| 09:36.28 | liable | USmarine: i agree, but this should be in #politics :P |
| 09:36.30 | JeffH | naw.. the U.S. is hated because of envy and jealousy. |
| 09:36.32 | eps | CrippsFX I've only had the chance to use broadcoms with cisco gear out at uni when I'm helping people setup linux on their laptops...so I'm unsure of the quirks for that brand sorry :( |
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| 09:36.46 | liable | deadcat: this for your slug? |
| 09:36.51 | deadcat | liable: ya |
| 09:37.23 | liable | deadcat: good luck, never seen that one before :P |
| 09:37.39 | deadcat | liable: ya. http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ his looks fine. |
| 09:37.56 | liable | deadcat: so have you tried both options? |
| 09:38.33 | liable | deadcat: the fact that i even know that you have a slug makes me realise i spend way too much time here :( |
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| 09:38.41 | deadcat | liable: the debianslug bootstrap seems weird. it uses ipkg, i want to use stuff via apt-get.. |
| 09:38.52 | deadcat | liable: (= |
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| 09:40.19 | deadcat | liable: the one my friend helped order on ebay just got here. so i am abusing the one i got from Fry's (= |
| 09:40.19 | CrippsFX | eps, that's okay, it's not your fault .... is it? |
| 09:40.20 | liable | yay, tvcard works now.. :) |
| 09:40.45 | liable | deadcat: you are a return purchase abuser! :P |
| 09:40.55 | eps | CrippsFX might me! :/ |
| 09:40.55 | eps | s/me/be |
| 09:41.00 | eps | lol :P |
| 09:41.00 | CrippsFX | lol. |
| 09:41.03 | CrippsFX | :D |
| 09:41.27 | CrippsFX | hm. has anybody tried putting linux on a zire 31? |
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| 09:42.37 | deadcat | liable: hell ya. the slug from ebay seems little loose. so i switch the inside and gonna return taht to frys hehe. my friend is helping me get a vantec nexstar3 red online since black is too $$. so i am gonna get a black from frys and return the red. (= |
| 09:44.42 | liable | deadcat: oh dear, god help the poor fucker that gets your returned slug :) |
| 09:45.30 | deadcat | liable: ya.. well. i overclocked it for the fucker though (= |
| 09:46.05 | liable | hehe |
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| 09:46.46 | Stork | how can i find a USB external dvd drive from the command line? |
| 09:47.11 | azeem | Stork: check dmesg after you plugged it in |
| 09:47.12 | deadcat | lsusb |
| 09:47.27 | Stork | deadcat, okay, what then? |
| 09:48.02 | deadcat | liable: sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/2slugs.jpg |
| 09:48.25 | deadcat | the first one is being abused |
| 09:48.54 | Stork | anyone? |
| 09:49.07 | eps | Stork two people have answered you |
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| 09:49.27 | Stork | yeah but how do i access the files on it... |
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| 09:49.37 | deadcat | Stork: mount |
| 09:49.44 | USmarine | you only asked hwo to find it |
| 09:49.46 | Stork | mount what?? |
| 09:49.53 | USmarine | mount the drive |
| 09:49.54 | deadcat | USmarine: (= |
| 09:50.18 | Stork | USmarine, yeah, i thought it was obvious that i wanted to *actually* use it instead of just know what ID it has |
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| 09:50.30 | Stork | USmarine, HOW do i mount the drive.. |
| 09:50.38 | deadcat | Stork: man mount |
| 09:50.45 | Stork | ... |
| 09:50.56 | Stork | i mean WHERE is the thing i need to mount |
| 09:51.02 | USmarine | mount -t vfat /dev/SDXN /mountHere |
| 09:51.07 | USmarine | mount -t vfat /dev/SDXN mountHere/ |
| 09:51.12 | deadcat | Stork: dmesg, we DONT know your system setting |
| 09:51.36 | Stork | forget it |
| 09:51.40 | Stork | google > #debian |
| 09:51.51 | deadcat | good for you then |
| 09:51.52 | azeem | Stork: did you figure out which device it is? |
| 09:52.48 | Stork | yeah.. lsusb told me that |
| 09:52.55 | azeem | so which is it? |
| 09:53.04 | Stork | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 059f:0203 LaCie, Ltd |
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| 09:54.06 | eps | lol |
| 09:54.18 | azeem | Stork: that's not the unix device you'd need in order to mount it, though |
| 09:54.29 | azeem | Stork: as I said, check dmesg for hints |
| 09:54.29 | Stork | oh? |
| 09:54.36 | Stork | how do i find the device then? |
| 09:54.50 | deadcat | Stork: pay attention |
| 09:55.06 | eps | Stork you cannot expect us to be telepathic...google has that advantage but we don't so please keep up and do ask directed else people here will be unable to help you |
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| 09:55.16 | Stork | hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 2 |
| 09:55.17 | Stork | usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x59f/0x203) is not claimed by any active driver. |
| 09:55.35 | azeem | so it doesn't appear to get recognized, AFAICT |
| 09:55.50 | eps | can t? |
| 09:55.52 | eps | tell? |
| 09:56.32 | liable | damn tvtime doesnt gimme football either :( |
| 09:56.57 | Stork | so it's not being recognized? so it wont work? |
| 09:57.04 | deadcat | liable: tvtime lags on my system. and i only get 2 channels. |
| 09:57.10 | deadcat | Stork: doesnt work |
| 09:57.46 | liable | deadcat: yeah, i cant get uhf. i am sure last time i tried it, it worked. |
| 09:58.22 | Stork | shit. |
| 09:58.27 | Stork | so i need a different dvd drive |
| 09:58.41 | azeem | Stork: what kernel are you running? |
| 09:58.44 | liable | haha, didnt have aerial plugged in right, /me tries a scan again |
| 09:58.48 | Stork | erm 2.4 i think |
| 09:58.58 | azeem | uname -a will tell |
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| 09:59.01 | Stork | yeah |
| 09:59.06 | Stork | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 09:59.12 | azeem | maybe try 2.6 then |
| 09:59.33 | Stork | yikes |
| 09:59.40 | Stork | is it easy to upgrade kernels on debian? |
| 09:59.47 | deadcat | yes |
| 09:59.58 | Stork | is there a guide somewhere for it? |
| 09:59.59 | USmarine | apt-cache search linux-image |
| 10:00.07 | USmarine | just pick up one |
| 10:00.11 | azeem | Stork: you're running sarge, right? |
| 10:00.15 | USmarine | that is not smp |
| 10:00.39 | Stork | i'd have to check :_ |
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| 10:01.35 | Stork | no idea how to :\ |
| 10:01.42 | azeem | how what? |
| 10:01.52 | USmarine | Stork, apt-cache search linux-image |
| 10:01.59 | azeem | it'd be better to address people like "azeem: I'd have to check", if you meant me |
| 10:02.06 | Stork | sorry |
| 10:02.14 | Stork | azeem, how to find which debian version i'm using |
| 10:02.14 | azeem | Stork: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 10:02.26 | Stork | 3.1 |
| 10:02.30 | Stork | azeem, version 3.1 |
| 10:02.32 | azeem | ok |
| 10:02.38 | azeem | so apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 10:03.00 | USmarine | linux-images are more recent |
| 10:03.11 | liable | not in sarge... |
| 10:03.20 | superlinux | what does such criterian mean and whet it's effect: Reject If protocol is TCP and TCP flags SYN,RST,ACK,FIN,URG (of ALL) are set ? |
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| 10:04.23 | Stork | cool, i'll try kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 |
| 10:04.55 | azeem | sounds fine |
| 10:05.03 | superlinux | has anyone an explanation? |
| 10:05.14 | Stork | so when the kernel is updated, does grub automatically update? |
| 10:05.19 | azeem | yes |
| 10:05.24 | Stork | cool. |
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| 10:05.33 | azeem | you can choose at boot which one you want |
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| 10:05.40 | bartm | Stork: that is, "kernel is added", the previous remains installed until removed |
| 10:06.11 | Stork | bartm, yeah, it's the same on ubuntu |
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| 10:06.16 | superlinux | azeem, are you good in firewall? |
| 10:06.21 | Stork | azeem, i don't have a screen - it's my server |
| 10:06.41 | azeem | superlinux: no |
| 10:06.48 | superlinux | ok thanks |
| 10:06.49 | liable | yay, i have football! |
| 10:06.50 | bartm | Stork: on what? redhat? :) |
| 10:06.52 | azeem | Stork: is it a remote server? |
| 10:06.53 | superlinux | any one? |
| 10:07.02 | Stork | azeem, no, it's in my cupboard ^_^ |
| 10:07.04 | azeem | superlinux: don't harass the channel |
| 10:07.22 | azeem | ask again in a couple of hours, or rephrase your question to be a bit more meaningful |
| 10:07.33 | azeem | or read a book about iptables |
| 10:07.39 | superlinux | azeem, ok |
| 10:07.45 | superlinux | don't worry |
| 10:07.50 | liable | superlinux: try #iptables |
| 10:07.55 | superlinux | I did |
| 10:07.58 | azeem | Stork: the new one will be default |
| 10:07.59 | superlinux | still no reply |
| 10:08.04 | Stork | azeem, awesome |
| 10:08.34 | Stork | azeem, wow, i got a lot of errors.. i'll pastebin them |
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| 10:09.09 | Stork | azeem, http://debian.pastebin.com/716162 |
| 10:09.57 | azeem | hrm |
| 10:10.38 | Stork | /dev/null appears to be broked. |
| 10:10.53 | Stork | it's a directory :\ |
| 10:10.58 | holdenSK | :) |
| 10:11.09 | azeem | Stork: do you have an idea what could have caused that? |
| 10:11.21 | Stork | probably me being an idiot |
| 10:11.44 | Stork | maybe a reboot would fix it..? |
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| 10:11.46 | azeem | no |
| 10:11.56 | Stork | no? |
| 10:12.04 | azeem | no :) |
| 10:12.14 | azeem | a reboot will almost never solve anything |
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| 10:13.59 | krassy1809 | i have problems with boot on my debian etch |
| 10:13.59 | bartm | krassy1809: well look who's here :) |
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| 10:15.27 | krassy1809 | after aptitude update && aptitude upgrade , the system don`t boot say:ALERT!: /dev/hde3 not found , dropping to a shell |
| 10:15.56 | mada | this is why we use apt-get ... :/ |
| 10:16.24 | eps | oh come off it mada |
| 10:16.54 | eps | aptitude is far better for every day use and as such should be usable for upgrades |
| 10:16.58 | krassy1809 | it seems to be after upgrading initramfs-tools |
| 10:16.59 | mada | that is the only way i could think of saying "i have no idea" |
| 10:17.19 | liable | hrm, now i just need sound.. |
| 10:17.26 | mada | eps: oh come now, aptitude is worthless and you know it |
| 10:18.07 | eps | mada without aptitude my debian install (sid) would get so bloated that it'd be unusable and it wouldn't fit on it's 5gig partition |
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| 10:18.22 | Subvertir | Hey, where is the hald init script located? |
| 10:18.24 | liable | mada: wash your mouth out with soap |
| 10:18.46 | liable | Subvertir: erm, in init.d? |
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| 10:19.02 | liable | Subvertir: or dpkg -S hal |
| 10:19.05 | Subvertir | What is it called? grep Hardware * doesn't return a line matching what it says when hald starts |
| 10:19.26 | eps | there isn't a hal entry in my init.d |
| 10:19.45 | mada | liable: well i agree that to each their own opinion so i need not argue this, but it doesn't suit my tastes |
| 10:19.55 | liable | why does my tvtime not have sound!!! |
| 10:20.08 | eps | liable run it in console and find out |
| 10:20.12 | liable | mada: thats cool, but dont say silly things about it |
| 10:20.17 | mada | liable: alsa drivers setup? |
| 10:20.42 | eps | tvtime is rather good at screaming and shouting in console when it doesn't get the sound drivers assigned to it |
| 10:20.43 | mada | liable: fair enough ... i agree not to slander that which i simply have personal preferences againt |
| 10:20.52 | eps | :P |
| 10:21.01 | mada | against* |
| 10:21.36 | mada | horray for console |
| 10:21.56 | liable | no, it doesnt bitch.. /me tries -v |
| 10:22.05 | eps | odd |
| 10:22.13 | eps | sure there is audio on the incoming stream? |
| 10:22.24 | eps | or that it is tuned correctly or x reason that you can probably think of? |
| 10:22.29 | mada | soooo, i am going to embrace the world of scripting languages through the python route ... anyone have any better suggestions or am i on the right track? |
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| 10:23.26 | bartm | mada: also interesting is perl and shell scripting |
| 10:23.39 | liable | hrm, even -v doesnt say anything about audio |
| 10:24.30 | liable | heh, perl... you might as well learn latin while your at it :P |
| 10:24.33 | mada | bartm: i know enough bash shell scripting to get me through my days, i need something more platform independant for classes because my profs all run different OSs |
| 10:25.55 | bartm | mada: then learning perl would not be a waste of time, and I guess python too (on my long term todo list) |
| 10:26.34 | mada | bartm: yeah, i read alot into perl, but it seems kinda cryptic because of the hard core inclusion of regEx |
| 10:26.35 | master_of_master | hi, I've got a problem: after a powercut cryptsetup can't find a encrypted partition (http://paste.debian.net/7714) |
| 10:26.44 | liable | grr, no sound! |
| 10:26.59 | bartm | mada: regular expressions are a really-must-learn-and-use :) |
| 10:27.11 | mada | liable: that's strange ... and still no output to the command line? |
| 10:27.37 | mada | bartm: i learned them for class, but i haven't ever really needed to know them that intensely |
| 10:28.54 | liable | mada: no, i have had it working here before, but that was like a year or so ago, and things have changed a bit since then i spose. |
| 10:31.11 | dorel__ | how do i disable entirely the blackscreen screensaver on X? |
| 10:31.24 | mada | liable: true true ... but it is strange ... and i'm sorry to say i have no clue what could be wrong if it is not giving any error messages |
| 10:31.33 | mada | liable: you sure your alsa is config'd right? |
| 10:32.55 | cahoot | liable: the tv/sound device shows up in /proc/asound/cards? |
| 10:33.15 | liable | mada: ya, alsa is fine, i'll work it out, still got 5 or so hours before i wanna kill someone about it :) |
| 10:33.30 | mada | liable: lol, well then happy hacking |
| 10:33.46 | liable | cahoot: hrm, no. |
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| 10:35.53 | liable | cahoot: the tvcard doesnt at any rate |
| 10:36.05 | cahoot | liable: what module should it use? snd_bt87x |
| 10:36.07 | cahoot | ? |
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| 10:36.18 | liable | saa71something |
| 10:36.55 | liable | thats for the tvcard |
| 10:37.28 | liable | dont tell me i need a damn sound module for it.. |
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| 10:39.05 | cahoot | liable: alsa probably want one |
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| 10:40.22 | vrt | hello, when i try using import -window root root.jpeg |
| 10:40.26 | vrt | i get a garbled image |
| 10:40.29 | tof | hello, how can I find to which package belong 'mail' ? (dpkg -S /usr/bin/mail does nothing) |
| 10:40.50 | vrt | i exported DISPLAY=":0.0" |
| 10:40.50 | liable | cahoot: hrm, has been a long time since i used this tv card. i cant remember having to have a sound module for it. of course i have a custom kernel with bugger all drivers in it. /me goes back to the drawing board |
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| 10:42.10 | cahoot | liable: saa7134-alsa ? |
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| 10:42.36 | liable | cahoot: hrm, sec |
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| 10:43.51 | liable | cahoot: which section is that? |
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| 10:45.53 | cahoot | liable: maybe this thread? http://threebit.net/mail-archive/video4linux/msg00239.html |
| 10:46.04 | liable | ta |
| 10:48.30 | tof | sorry guys, dpkg -S works well, I just had to be patient for the result to show up. Sorry for that useless question. |
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| 10:50.14 | liable | hrm |
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| 10:58.11 | christor | Hello guys |
| 10:58.31 | mada | hiya |
| 10:58.33 | mada | how goes it? |
| 10:58.48 | mada | (sorry for the delay response, i am juggling chans |
| 10:58.51 | mada | )* |
| 10:58.54 | christor | Someone can tell me how switch from gnome to kde on debian testing? By defualt I start with gdm which log me on gnome. |
| 10:59.30 | mada | go to gdm and click on "session" and select "kde" then log in |
| 10:59.50 | mada | so from here "ctrl+alt+backspc" to drop back to gdm |
| 11:00.09 | christor | mada: I can t select the wm on gdm. I can just put user and passwd and shutdown comp... but no option to select wm |
| 11:00.52 | Coweater | login and run gdmsetup as root and set it to theme that allows you to choose |
| 11:00.54 | mada | whoa ... thats uber odd ... hold on, i don't remember the config file ... lemme look it up |
| 11:01.03 | mada | well there you go |
| 11:01.16 | mastroquet | christor : maybe a gdm theme problem ? try another one... (my 2 cents) |
| 11:04.33 | mada | brb ... |
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| 11:06.22 | sciboy | Heya guys, i got a Xerox DocuPrint P8ex and i am trying to print a black and white image. (not greyscale0 |
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| 11:07.45 | sciboy | Now problem is that i'm getting this, low resolution dithered output from the printer, since i know this printer is capable of 600dpi and the text print is of such quality, i am wondering what i'm missing that'd cause it to bring the quality of the images down so much? |
| 11:08.27 | Coweater | using cups? |
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| 11:08.38 | jetscreamer | it used to be /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but they moved it |
| 11:09.05 | sciboy | Coweater, You bet. |
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| 11:09.55 | eps | where do you change the gnome splash image (the one you get just after you login just before you get the desktop) |
| 11:09.58 | liable | yay, i have finally at least gotten a sound error now :) |
| 11:10.12 | Coweater | you've checked the web config interface and it's set to 600 dpi? |
| 11:10.29 | mada | liable: w00t! horray for output |
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| 11:10.52 | liable | mada: :) |
| 11:11.01 | jetscreamer | eps: either update-alternatives or you can set it in gconf... also some gnome applet has it |
| 11:11.07 | sciboy | Coweater, No matter what DPI setting, the images always come out at the same quality. |
| 11:11.13 | jetscreamer | not positive about the update-alternatives |
| 11:11.24 | Coweater | what are you printing from? |
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| 11:12.27 | sciboy | Coweater, XPDF, Gimp and Firefox so far. |
| 11:12.30 | sciboy | Same issue. |
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| 11:15.31 | IsDis4Me | what is a really good filesharing program for Linux? |
| 11:15.31 | vrt | guys, please take a look : http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6197/root4wo.jpg |
| 11:15.48 | vrt | dunno if its xmms or gtk(or something else?) that is broken |
| 11:16.34 | sciboy | IsDis4Me, Gnutella clients work nicely. |
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| 11:16.51 | IsDis4Me | which client to you reccomend? |
| 11:16.58 | liable | hrm, silly udev looks like.. |
| 11:17.16 | drasko | hi all. I have problems with broken pipes when want to install/remove some packages. How to solve this? Here is wha I pasted: http://pastebin.com/716229 |
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| 11:19.48 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:19.57 | streuner | that's pretty clear, isn't it? |
| 11:20.11 | azeem | drasko: are you runining unstable? |
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| 11:20.29 | sciboy | LOL, http://66.227.190.18:8882/AnonymousFTP/FunnyStuff/homecomp2004.jpg |
| 11:21.25 | drasko | azeem, testing |
| 11:21.27 | liable | abrotman: you are neked! |
| 11:21.46 | Stork | sciboy, hehe |
| 11:21.53 | azeem | drasko: check the bug tracking system |
| 11:21.54 | abrotman | liable: eh .. not quite .. but it's already like 80F here :) |
| 11:22.02 | streuner | drasko: try to remove the other package first |
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| 11:22.10 | spiral | hello |
| 11:22.25 | abrotman | liable: eh .. wait .. can't be that warm |
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| 11:22.42 | drasko | streuner, which other package do you mean? |
| 11:22.51 | streuner | drasko: libwxbase2.6-0 |
| 11:23.05 | abrotman | liable: only 70F :) |
| 11:23.51 | sciboy | Coweater, No ideas? =/ |
| 11:23.55 | liable | whats that in C? |
| 11:24.15 | liable | sounds a bit chilly! |
| 11:24.21 | drasko | streuner, it is not installed |
| 11:24.33 | Coweater | none |
| 11:24.46 | drasko | Package libwxbase2.6 is not installed, so not removed |
| 11:25.05 | streuner | hm |
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| 11:25.23 | abrotman | liable: eh ...70 degrees Fahrenheit = 21.1111111 degrees Celsius |
| 11:25.38 | abrotman | liable: supposed to hit 93F today |
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| 11:26.08 | azeem | drasko: there's no libwxbase2.6 anymore it seems |
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| 11:26.22 | abrotman | and given i had such a spectacular day yesterday .. i figure i can only make this weekend better by bouncing my car off a house |
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| 11:26.25 | liable | abrotman: oh, thats about the same as here actually. i wish for 93F, we have 17-21C atm. fucking cold!! |
| 11:26.32 | streuner | liable: celsius = (5.0/9.0) * (fahr -32.0) |
| 11:26.42 | sciboy | Coweater, Well it's obviously doing SOMETHING to the raster before it hits the printer. |
| 11:26.47 | abrotman | liable: wussy .. go snuggle up with a sheep :) |
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| 11:27.00 | adrakoa | hi |
| 11:27.18 | abrotman | liable: in our winter .. it's like -2C |
| 11:27.18 | liable | abrotman: i got my woolies on, dont worry :) |
| 11:27.24 | liable | ouch |
| 11:27.34 | abrotman | yeah .. it goes both ways here :) |
| 11:27.35 | liable | this *is* my winter :P |
| 11:27.53 | igorsutton | hi there. i'm using gnome on sarge. i installed all gstreamer plugins I found, but sound-juicer still doesn't have ogg encoding support. do you know how can I get that? |
| 11:27.54 | abrotman | i know |
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| 11:28.15 | OleMoudi | what's with metacity auto-focusing new conversations on amsn since last upgrade? |
| 11:28.18 | abrotman | igorsutton: you need the libvorbis or whatever it is |
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| 11:28.49 | igorsutton | abrotman: all installed. |
| 11:29.10 | abrotman | igorsutton: let me see |
| 11:29.23 | igorsutton | abrotman: it is not listed as encoding option on sound-juicer. |
| 11:29.29 | streuner | drasko: how come to you want install a package out of unstable then? |
| 11:29.52 | abrotman | igorsutton: is anything ? |
| 11:29.57 | igorsutton | also executed gst-register-0.8 |
| 11:30.27 | streuner | drasko: nevermind, i misread the factoid, can you give us your sources.list in paster? |
| 11:30.28 | liable | i need /dev/mixer!!! |
| 11:30.39 | drasko | streuner, I do not know, i just noticet that package when saying apt-cache search libwx, and the I said apt-get install |
| 11:30.48 | igorsutton | abrotman: CD Quality Lossless, CD Quality Lossy and Voice. |
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| 11:31.08 | igorsutton | abrotman: I rant 'dpkg-reconfigure sound-juicer' also. |
| 11:31.13 | abrotman | igorsutton: for me .. Lossy is Ogg .. and the sound-juicer in etch depends on gstreamer-vorbis |
| 11:31.32 | drasko | streuner, I have this line for amule: deb http://amule-debian.dyndns.org/ debian/ |
| 11:31.38 | igorsutton | abrotman: i'm using sarge. |
| 11:32.01 | streuner | liable: apt-get install (official debian kernel) *cough* :-) |
| 11:32.15 | abrotman | igorsutton: i'm aware of that |
| 11:32.19 | streuner | drasko: oh ok, that makes sense then... |
| 11:32.20 | liable | streuner: bleh! :P |
| 11:32.29 | abrotman | igorsutton: what do you get for output if you choose Lossy ? |
| 11:32.30 | cahoot | liable: snd-pcm-oss loaded? |
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| 11:33.28 | igorsutton | abrotman: i'm checking. |
| 11:33.35 | drasko | streuner, azeem here is my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/716245 |
| 11:33.52 | igorsutton | abrotman: damn, it is outputing as ogg. |
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| 11:34.51 | cahoot | liable: + snd-mixer-oss |
| 11:34.53 | abrotman | igorsutton: i think the version in etch is more descriptive .. because of that exact problem .. it dumbed it down too far :) |
| 11:34.55 | igorsutton | abrotman: thanks. on latest gnome, sound-juicer let you edit the profiles, so it is easier to check. |
| 11:35.11 | igorsutton | abrotman: thanks anyway :) |
| 11:35.15 | abrotman | igorsutton: enjoy |
| 11:35.51 | streuner | drasko: we can't help, if you using non-official sources |
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| 11:36.17 | abrotman | you are using |
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| 11:36.33 | streuner | s/you/your are/ |
| 11:36.42 | abrotman | no .. you are .. not your are :) |
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| 11:36.59 | streuner | crap, i meant you are :-) |
| 11:37.26 | drasko | streuner, azeem I removed this line for amule, and then installed amule from official packages (first I had to remove amule-common package, too). Now it works! Thanks for the hint! |
| 11:37.27 | streuner | abrotman: no, thanks - we are in technical help channel not in english grammar school... |
| 11:37.44 | abrotman | streuner: if you can't communicate effectively .. you won't be much help :) |
| 11:37.54 | liable | cahoot: strangely enough, it wasnt, i was about to kiss you, but it hasnt fixed the problem |
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| 11:38.08 | cahoot | liable: snd-mixer-oss? |
| 11:38.36 | liable | yerp |
| 11:39.37 | cahoot | liable: udev not getting themessage? |
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| 11:41.45 | Intoxicator | g'day |
| 11:42.08 | Intoxicator | can anyone shed light on why the xen manual for configuring grub asks for kernel /xen ... and module /linuxkernel (in grub menu.lst) , while the grub autoconfiguration script, called by dpkg upon installation of a xen-anbled kernel only adds entries of the type kernel /linuxkernel to menu.lst ? |
| 11:42.39 | Intoxicator | more importantly, which type of entry is the proper one now? |
| 11:42.58 | liable | cahoot: still no /dev/mixer |
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| 11:43.34 | cahoot | liable: I'd venture a restart of udev |
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| 11:44.13 | liable | cahoot: good idea |
| 11:45.08 | abrotman | put those modules in your /etc/modules |
| 11:45.14 | abrotman | and are you using alsa or OSS ? |
| 11:45.30 | abrotman | (you'd think alsa .. since OSS rarely had this problem)O |
| 11:46.05 | liable | cahoot: that gave me a mixer, no sound still though, i guess i might try aumix i guess |
| 11:46.12 | liable | abrotman: who you talking to? |
| 11:46.33 | abrotman | the chinchilla |
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| 11:47.19 | liable | hrm, /lastlog chinchilla is blank..?? |
| 11:47.21 | Stork | wow i really need help.. i managed to DELETE /dev/null and replace it with a directory |
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| 11:47.35 | liable | :P |
| 11:47.57 | cahoot | Stork: you manged to fill /dev/null? |
| 11:48.10 | Stork | cahoot, what? |
| 11:48.47 | abrotman | Stork: rm /dev/null ** /dev/MAKEDEV ? |
| 11:48.59 | abrotman | bah .. i should really not do this before i have contacts in |
| 11:50.35 | liable | this is pissing me off |
| 11:51.26 | Stork | abrotman, how do i know if it worked? |
| 11:52.02 | Stork | yeah that computer is a mess.. how do i change keyboard layout to English from the command line? |
| 11:52.04 | abrotman | ls -l /dev/null |
| 11:54.31 | blondie | Stork: dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 11:57.19 | Mitja | This is off-topic, but what is the biggest free small ads portal in Germany? |
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| 11:58.14 | abrotman | google? |
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| 11:58.33 | Stork | thanks blondie, that solved my keyboard layout problem :) |
| 11:58.51 | Stork | abrotman, what does 'rm /dev/null ** /dev/MAKEDEV' do? |
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| 11:59.04 | abrotman | Stork: it was a total typo :) |
| 11:59.11 | Stork | :| |
| 11:59.15 | Stork | erm |
| 11:59.24 | abrotman | Stork: rm /dev/null && . /dev/MAKEDEV |
| 11:59.37 | jetscreamer | i need my own goddammned room. i own a fuckin house but i have no fuckin room. |
| 11:59.41 | abrotman | i'm still mostly blind .. cut me some slack :) |
| 11:59.52 | abrotman | jetscreamer: sell the kids ? |
| 11:59.58 | liable | heh |
| 12:00.20 | jetscreamer | abrotman: only 2 more years and i can /kick kids :o |
| 12:00.23 | jetscreamer | not that i would |
| 12:00.29 | f00li5h | ext2progs, and init depending on them, is it a bad idea to just add the force-loopbreak, and is there anything to note, having alreayd done that? |
| 12:00.34 | jetscreamer | hopefully they'll move out on their own |
| 12:00.44 | liable | abrotman: didnt your mom warn about those things that would make you go blind ?? :P |
| 12:00.57 | adrakoa | Stork, cat alias rm='rm -i' >> $home/.bashrc |
| 12:01.00 | abrotman | liable: i blame my dad |
| 12:01.04 | adrakoa | Stork, echo alias rm='rm -i' >> $home/.bashrc |
| 12:01.14 | jetscreamer | oh god don't go there abrotman |
| 12:01.20 | f00li5h | adrakoa: .profile? |
| 12:01.22 | liable | abrotman: um, i dont think i want to knwo about that! |
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| 12:01.49 | adrakoa | user too |
| 12:01.53 | abrotman | liable: my brothers and i are blind .. my sister is fine |
| 12:01.57 | abrotman | liable: genetics |
| 12:02.19 | liable | oh, of course, blame it on genetics :P |
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| 12:02.56 | welp | i'm deaf... genetics... |
| 12:03.45 | f00li5h | welp: terrorism ... genetics... |
| 12:03.57 | welp | f00li5h: foolish... |
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| 12:04.02 | liable | no sound in tvtime! genetics? |
| 12:04.20 | glutoman | george w. bush. ... genetics |
| 12:04.26 | f00li5h | welp: hey! i worked hard at it, for years to be the way i am. |
| 12:04.39 | f00li5h | i owe my lack of success to nobody. |
| 12:04.40 | liable | s/genetics/mutant/ :) |
| 12:04.47 | Intoxicator | welp = joe welp? |
| 12:05.10 | welp | Intoxicator: /me is peter weller :P |
| 12:05.22 | Intoxicator | ah, 'k, sry |
| 12:05.31 | welp | first three letters of last name + first letter of first name == welp |
| 12:05.45 | jetscreamer | welp you're buckaroo bonzai? omg |
| 12:06.05 | Stork | adrakoa, that didn't do anything |
| 12:06.28 | jetscreamer | across the 8th dimension |
| 12:06.32 | jetscreamer | cool movie |
| 12:06.42 | adrakoa | sisifo's world |
| 12:08.18 | welp | hmm |
| 12:08.28 | adrakoa | false + do + false = true == spanish :) |
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| 12:11.11 | Stork | abrotman, thanks for the help.. after reading the man page for MAKEDEV it turns out i had to specify it to make the 'std' device |
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| 12:11.34 | abrotman | Stork: ah .. ok .. i don't nomrally need to run it :) |
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| 12:11.56 | Stork | yeah, it's my fault for being reatded enough to delete /dev/null ;) |
| 12:12.10 | abrotman | hehe |
| 12:12.48 | jetscreamer | ot but is the piratebay.org up, or is it just a honeypot |
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| 12:13.11 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 12:13.19 | abrotman | jetscreamer: how would you ever know .. could have been before too |
| 12:13.30 | jetscreamer | and wtf is supposed to be in /var/run on a non-booted installation |
| 12:13.43 | abrotman | nothing ... i'd think .. |
| 12:13.57 | abrotman | since nothing is running :) |
| 12:14.09 | abrotman | but i bet there is stuff in there |
| 12:14.20 | f00li5h | abrotman: if it was shut down correctly. |
| 12:14.21 | jetscreamer | abrotman: yeah that's what i think, but i'm not sure. you see, somehow /var/run got deleted due to crashing box |
| 12:14.24 | DevilChaos | i have a new small problem that i have experienced before but didnt think it would happen thiss soon i have a new full system of hardware including graphics car |
| 12:14.40 | abrotman | f00li5h: i think he means that he booted a liveCD .. and is looking at his HDD .. |
| 12:14.57 | f00li5h | i see |
| 12:15.00 | jetscreamer | f00li5h: yeah it was both |
| 12:15.02 | liable | grr, /me tries strace, even though i wont be able to understand the output :P |
| 12:15.15 | jetscreamer | so i recreated /var/run but wasn't sure what was supposed to be in there |
| 12:15.19 | jetscreamer | k works |
| 12:15.28 | DevilChaos | the graphics crd is an ati and the screen has a slight flicker to it and when i experienced this before it meant that my graphics card was on the way out |
| 12:15.49 | Stork | is there any way to send files unsecurely over a network via the command line? |
| 12:15.55 | DevilChaos | but it is new and i cant understand it |
| 12:16.03 | jetscreamer | many ways i suspect stork |
| 12:16.14 | abrotman | Stork: netcat ? |
| 12:16.18 | Stork | yeah.. i know of SCP but i believe that encrypts data |
| 12:16.18 | abrotman | ftp ? |
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| 12:16.24 | jetscreamer | DevilChaos: it could just be a not so hot refresh rate |
| 12:16.38 | jetscreamer | DevilChaos: do the hwinfo thing, the first part |
| 12:16.41 | DevilChaos | ah out of sync |
| 12:16.46 | jetscreamer | !tell DevilChaos -about hwinfo |
| 12:16.54 | jetscreamer | then drxx |
| 12:17.02 | jetscreamer | !tell DevilChaos -about drxx |
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| 12:17.55 | jetscreamer | DevilChaos: it may be something else, worth a shot though |
| 12:18.04 | DevilChaos | yup yup thats exellnt didnt think of that one as i have just changed my monitor to my tv 32" |
| 12:20.32 | DevilChaos | thanks |
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| 12:20.39 | DevilChaos | bbl |
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| 12:22.38 | f00li5h | where can i get the `first boot of a new install' script from, without re-installing? |
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| 12:23.02 | eps | --reconfigure somepackage |
| 12:23.02 | liable | f00li5h: explain that a bit better |
| 12:23.08 | eps | nfi what the package is though :| |
| 12:23.42 | f00li5h | liable: when you reboot (midway through the install) you're thrown into the second half on the installer, via a script in the init, but it removes itself once it's been run |
| 12:24.01 | liable | f00li5h: for sarge, base-config |
| 12:24.01 | f00li5h | my package tree went mad, and i restarted, i don't even have all of base installed -_- |
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| 12:24.39 | Sarge_H33ans__ | hi |
| 12:24.41 | f00li5h | liable: that gives me a messload of perl errors, but the menu is back. thanks |
| 12:24.57 | Sarge_H33ans__ | i want to know if the modem Sagem Fast@800 is supported ? |
| 12:25.32 | liable | Sarge_H33ans__: a winmodem? |
| 12:25.46 | Sarge_H33ans__ | liable no |
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| 12:26.13 | liable | Sarge_H33ans__: well, if its hardware, then it should work.. |
| 12:26.38 | quitte_ | hi. what does LCP mean when pppd logs this: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests |
| 12:26.45 | Sarge_H33ans__ | liable i see on the last kernel, there is a module |
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| 12:27.22 | clausen | Anyone knows how to get danish signs to work in debian ? I cant seam to figure it out |
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| 12:29.07 | quitte_ | never mind got my answer |
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| 12:31.01 | USmarine | Sarge_H33ans__, try http://www.eagle-usb.org/ |
| 12:31.12 | Sarge_H33ans__ | USmarine thanks |
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| 12:35.31 | flipAwake | how do i echo something too all users logged in? |
| 12:35.43 | f00li5h | flipAwake: wall |
| 12:35.55 | Stork | is there a new version of debian after 3.1? |
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| 12:36.10 | USmarine | yeah, kinda |
| 12:36.13 | abrotman | !etch\ |
| 12:36.16 | abrotman | !etch |
| 12:36.16 | dpkg | i heard etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 12:36.17 | USmarine | there's etch and sid |
| 12:36.20 | AciD | !etch |
| 12:36.30 | flipAwake | thanks |
| 12:37.02 | Stork | USmarine, hmm.. is it worth upgrading to either of them? |
| 12:37.17 | jetscreamer | etch makes a good desktop for a clued-in user |
| 12:37.34 | Stork | it's for my home server |
| 12:38.22 | jetscreamer | sarge is for servers |
| 12:38.24 | USmarine | servers should stay in sarge |
| 12:38.34 | jetscreamer | unless you just wanna live dangerously |
| 12:38.41 | clausen | Anyone knows how to get danish signs to work in debian ? I cant seam to figure it out |
| 12:38.45 | jetscreamer | or it's not exposed to the intarweb |
| 12:38.50 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 12:38.52 | Stork | jetscreamer, is version 3.1 sarge? |
| 12:38.56 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 12:39.02 | clausen | abchirk, have tried that.. |
| 12:39.03 | jetscreamer | stable/sarge iirc |
| 12:39.07 | Stork | cool |
| 12:39.15 | jetscreamer | iirc |
| 12:39.22 | jetscreamer | !iirc |
| 12:39.22 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
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| 12:39.46 | Stork | i know.. :\ |
| 12:39.50 | jetscreamer | k |
| 12:40.00 | Stork | thanks |
| 12:40.02 | jetscreamer | i'm pretty sure it is though |
| 12:40.07 | Stork | also, what kernel can you recommend? |
| 12:40.21 | jetscreamer | the latest in whatever flavor |
| 12:40.25 | jetscreamer | in the sources |
| 12:40.29 | Stork | fair play |
| 12:40.35 | Stork | i'm using a 2.4 at the mo |
| 12:40.35 | Sarge_H33ans__ | how you configure network interface ? |
| 12:40.40 | jetscreamer | 2.6 |
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| 12:41.18 | jetscreamer | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:41.22 | jetscreamer | edit it |
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| 12:41.36 | Sarge_H33ans__ | thanks |
| 12:41.42 | Stork | jetscreamer, i can get a 2.6 flavour on apt right? |
| 12:41.52 | USmarine | y |
| 12:41.53 | jetscreamer | Stork: i believe there is 2.6 for sarge |
| 12:41.58 | jetscreamer | not positive |
| 12:41.58 | Stork | cool. |
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| 12:42.02 | dim | hi there |
| 12:42.03 | USmarine | 2.6.8 |
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| 12:42.22 | jetscreamer | now i remember, it's 2.6.8 :) |
| 12:42.30 | dim | i'm looking at using runit in order to reduce my debian boot time |
| 12:43.07 | dim | does apt-get instal runit-services does it all, replacing init and installing necessary runit scripts for my system daemons ? |
| 12:43.16 | jetscreamer | dim: autodetection/hotplug makes for the greatest savings for boottime imo.. aka compile the modules in. |
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| 12:43.35 | dim | i'm using 2.6.16 with udev, no more hotplug here |
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| 12:45.06 | dim | i think if kdm is started while system services are notyet ready, i should have my kde session up a lot erlier |
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| 12:49.29 | kaiSVK | hi all :) |
| 12:50.25 | adrakoa | hi |
| 12:50.30 | kaiSVK | I have been here about month ago ... and everybody told me to install stable debian ... but I choose to install testing ... so I hope even I am installing testing there will be some people so kind to help me in general debian questions :) |
| 12:51.31 | Stork | hmm.. how can i tell why a device (/media/cdrom) is busy? |
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| 12:52.01 | adrakoa | Stork, lsof /media/cdrom |
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| 12:53.04 | Sarge_H33ans__ | i configure my interface |
| 12:53.19 | Stork | thanks adrakoa |
| 12:53.22 | Sarge_H33ans__ | when i ping my hostname, it ping on 127.0.0.1 and the eth0 it up |
| 12:53.27 | eps | there are no printer drivers in the gnome-printer thingy when I go to add a printer :| |
| 12:53.35 | eps | using debian sid, gnome 2.14 |
| 12:53.37 | eps | suggestions? |
| 12:53.40 | Sarge_H33ans__ | i'm in runlevel 2 |
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| 12:54.30 | adrakoa | Stork man lsof && man fuser |
| 12:56.47 | dim | Sarge_H33ans__: try pinging eth0 ip, localhost and hostname are bound to 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts |
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| 12:57.35 | Sarge_H33ans__ | dim when i pinging my ip it run, in /etc/hosts my hostname pointing on my ip in eth0 |
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| 12:57.53 | Sarge_H33ans__ | and 127.0.0.1 pointing on localhosts |
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| 12:58.23 | yanis | apt-get give me this output:E: The package libgnome2-vfs-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it! . how can I fix it? |
| 12:58.36 | Sarge_H33ans__ | when i try traceroute, it say Warning debian has multiple adresses; usung 127.0.0.1 |
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| 13:00.30 | Sarge_H33ans__ | i find found, in my /etc/hosts, in localhost, le last name, is my localhosts, i remove it, and it run |
| 13:00.31 | Sarge_H33ans__ | thanks |
| 13:01.39 | possie | anyone in here using runit? i've installed it on Debian Sarge, but during boot it looks like it hangs saying: "- runit: enter stage: /etc/runit/2" i'm waiting for couple of minutes now, anyone know why might be wrong? or how to make the output be more verbose so i can see where it might goes wrong? |
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| 13:09.26 | Sarge_H33ans__ | i rebooted my machin, and know there is in ipv6 |
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| 13:17.01 | liable | pcmcia tv gets no sound. ideas? |
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| 13:17.09 | liable | tv card* |
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| 13:19.50 | kaiSVK | what is debians default deskop ? KDE or GNOME ? |
| 13:20.06 | azeem | kaiSVK: the desktop task installs both |
| 13:20.13 | valdyn | kaiSVK: there's no real default |
| 13:20.27 | valdyn | kaiSVK: but if you chose the desktop task then by default gnome will be run |
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| 13:21.40 | liable | but it install kde too |
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| 13:25.41 | eps | use gnome :D |
| 13:25.54 | kaiSVK | eps: why |
| 13:26.20 | kaiSVK | eps, gnome is IMHO one year behind KDE :) |
| 13:26.20 | USmarine | use kde |
| 13:26.26 | azeem | FFS |
| 13:26.37 | eps | because my word plus the awesome smily should be a swaying vote for anyone! |
| 13:26.39 | azeem | kaiSVK: so use KDE |
| 13:26.39 | ledet | use neither |
| 13:27.03 | kaiSVK | use CLI |
| 13:27.05 | kaiSVK | :) |
| 13:27.16 | USmarine | CLI? clitoris? |
| 13:27.16 | ledet | smoke crack |
| 13:27.23 | eps | command line interface |
| 13:27.24 | ledet | USmarine: command line interface |
| 13:27.26 | kaiSVK | :D |
| 13:28.10 | USmarine | i could use 1 of those for gnome |
| 13:28.10 | eps | haha c kitchensync - Synchronization framework |
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| 13:29.02 | eps | kaiSVK I really don't think gnome and kde can really be compared...let a lone some one saying 'kde is a year ahead' as there really isn't a metric for either...both exist to provide a gui though have different goals and methods of reaching that goal |
| 13:29.03 | kaiSVK | omg ... it booted up :D |
| 13:29.33 | USmarine | gnome is default |
| 13:29.33 | azeem | eps: so just acknowledge that and not make recommendations to people in here |
| 13:29.39 | USmarine | you gotta change the session |
| 13:30.04 | eps | azeem I never used a define artical, I just made a comment :) |
| 13:30.22 | azeem | eps: it was obvious where it would lead to. |
| 13:30.41 | kaiSVK | omg |
| 13:30.52 | kaiSVK | the first feelings from debian are awesome :) |
| 13:30.52 | USmarine | O_o |
| 13:30.58 | eps | azeem only if people are so pathetic they have to fight it every time it comes up... oh wait, they are... *looks at vi vs emacs, linux vs bsd, gnome vs kde* |
| 13:31.10 | azeem | eps: indeed |
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| 13:31.18 | eps | it's odd, I'd be perfectly able to say some thing is better as long as it wasn't one of those three |
| 13:31.32 | azeem | eps: once you're a regular in here, you don't need to participate in those discussions anymore |
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| 13:31.48 | azeem | eps: bitchx is better than irssi |
| 13:32.15 | _fjh_ | Hey, printing using firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-2 and cupsys 1.2.1-2 results always in pagesize 'letter' not a4! Any hints?? |
| 13:32.15 | Ronin | azeem: mirc or bust ;) |
| 13:32.23 | eps | even worse though is that since it is such a stupid flame battle I can't even say gnome is better for corperate enivronments (while I have a good deal of knowledge to know it is true) and kde is better for windows migrations (which I also know from work migrations) without causing every one to die |
| 13:32.35 | dvs | _fjh_: move to the US! ;-) |
| 13:32.49 | eps | azeem lol, honestly I've always used irssi as when I got into linux I could never work out how to start bitchx :P |
| 13:32.55 | eps | I perfer bitchx |
| 13:33.09 | eps | should probably try it now...kind of embarrasing not knowing |
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| 13:33.11 | _fjh_ | dvs: Yeah! Will it then really print A4? |
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| 13:33.20 | kaiSVK | I think it only installed GNOME |
| 13:33.22 | kaiSVK | hmmm ... |
| 13:33.30 | eps | haha debian installs the binary for me, oh well |
| 13:33.38 | Ronin | kaiSVK: it may have, but thats easy to change |
| 13:33.43 | USmarine | kaiSVK, im sure it didnt |
| 13:33.48 | USmarine | apt-get install kdebase |
| 13:33.52 | eps | aptitude install kde :) |
| 13:34.01 | USmarine | kde is huge |
| 13:34.02 | eps | is there a meta package? |
| 13:34.06 | azeem | kaiSVK: did you choose the desktop task? |
| 13:34.06 | USmarine | kde is the meta |
| 13:34.06 | eps | kdebase? |
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| 13:34.24 | USmarine | kdebase is the minimum |
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| 13:34.32 | eps | kk |
| 13:35.38 | eps | is there any difference between bitchx and irssi at all? |
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| 13:35.50 | epssy | mmm |
| 13:35.51 | USmarine | kaiSVK, just logout and change the default session |
| 13:35.55 | epssy | it's all purple :| |
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| 13:35.59 | azeem | eps: yes, irssi just works and bitchx is annoying |
| 13:36.01 | epssy | kind of gay |
| 13:36.04 | epssy | haha |
| 13:36.07 | azeem | !gay |
| 13:36.08 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 13:36.09 | kaiSVK | USmarine, its not installed ;) |
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| 13:36.31 | Sarge_H33ans__ | i want to use qemu but i don't arrive to ping virtual machin |
| 13:36.34 | USmarine | kaiSVK, if you chose desktop im certain it did |
| 13:36.46 | kaiSVK | there is nothing to choos :) |
| 13:36.47 | azeem | kaiSVK: did you install testing? |
| 13:36.52 | eps | I don't have a voice to start with |
| 13:36.54 | kaiSVK | azeem, yes |
| 13:37.01 | azeem | kaiSVK: it might not install kde then |
| 13:37.12 | azeem | I'm not sure what the current state is for etch |
| 13:37.15 | kaiSVK | azeem, u have testing too ? |
| 13:37.18 | azeem | kaiSVK: no |
| 13:37.45 | epssy | kde worked last week on a dev box at work from testing |
| 13:37.45 | kaiSVK | azeem, stable so ? |
| 13:37.45 | azeem | kaiSVK: just install KDE |
| 13:37.49 | kaiSVK | it has synaptic :D like in ubuntu :) |
| 13:37.50 | _fjh_ | firefox recommends xprint, but I am having CUPS installed. Can I have both? How do they cooperate? |
| 13:38.13 | azeem | kaiSVK: eh, ubuntu has synaptic like Debian |
| 13:38.17 | eps | _fjh_ ffox will use cups if it is there |
| 13:38.29 | USmarine | yeah lol |
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| 13:38.29 | eps | mmm synaptic is a gtk app right? |
| 13:38.32 | kaiSVK | azeem, I know ... |
| 13:38.33 | USmarine | y |
| 13:38.34 | abrotman | eh .. sunday? |
| 13:38.35 | kaiSVK | :D |
| 13:38.55 | Ronin | abrotman: always |
| 13:39.00 | abrotman | heh |
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| 13:39.17 | eps | heyo abrotman |
| 13:39.20 | abrotman | hi |
| 13:39.34 | eps | mmm remembered my /. pw on the fourth try, doing well today :) |
| 13:39.52 | _fjh_ | eps: I know, but with cups it prints always 'letter'. I am searching for ways to solve this. |
| 13:39.53 | _fjh_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.05 | abrotman | eps: yesterday .. i broke a mac .. dented my car while bike riding .. and gave myself a big gooseegg on my knee |
| 13:40.12 | eps | _fjh_ what type of printer |
| 13:40.14 | abrotman | (car was in my own driveway too) |
| 13:40.39 | eps | a mac as in laptop? |
| 13:40.43 | _fjh_ | eps: HP ljet 4 plus |
| 13:40.47 | abrotman | eps: mini .. |
| 13:40.51 | eps | I got my leg run over the day before :P ...I win for bad days! |
| 13:40.52 | eps | owch |
| 13:41.15 | abrotman | yeah .. but my car was only eight days old |
| 13:41.25 | eps | ...owch, okay, you win |
| 13:41.29 | eps | much damage? |
| 13:41.34 | dvs | abrotman: you got a MINI? |
| 13:41.37 | abrotman | i'll have them pop the dent back out |
| 13:41.49 | abrotman | dvs: not a mini cooper .. a macmini .. the car i got is a tC .. |
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| 13:42.12 | abrotman | dvs: i got etch installed quicker than osx .. oh wait .. that's right .. OSX won't install |
| 13:42.13 | eps | _fjh_ mmm check on the printer that it isn't the thing forcing letter over a4...there should be a thingy like a lcd with menu go through that or hold down the some thing button (normally the biggest one) until it prints out a report page (about eight to ten seconds) |
| 13:42.16 | dvs | abrotman: Oh.... I though Psions was for young people |
| 13:42.39 | eps | abrotman I have a mac laptop :) ...it rawks |
| 13:42.45 | abrotman | dvs: i'm uh .. younger than ... eh .. jesus |
| 13:42.53 | abrotman | eps: it's just to mess with .. |
| 13:42.57 | eps | in fact, it is waiting for me on my warmed bed (10*c here) so it will greet me when I go to bed :D |
| 13:43.00 | abrotman | i don't care for OSX at all |
| 13:43.24 | eps | I do all my uni work on it, so osx is good because you can't get any games beyond frozen-bubble for it so no destractions at uni |
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| 13:43.31 | _fjh_ | eps: I can print the CUPS testpage fine in A4. Only firefox uses letter no matter what. |
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| 13:43.49 | eps | I don't mind it, it does what I tell it and it's more stable than debian sid, and I can integrate it into my network better than windows |
| 13:44.00 | abrotman | that's why i don't use sid :) |
| 13:44.03 | eps | _fjh_ mmm back in a moment, looking for a setting in it |
| 13:44.17 | eps | yeah but I like bleeding edge :P ...old linux is worse than old windows |
| 13:44.21 | eps | feels so stale |
| 13:44.24 | kaiSVK | can I change some things I am used to in bash _ |
| 13:44.26 | eps | I can't even stand sarge |
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| 13:44.41 | azeem | kaiSVK: "some things"? |
| 13:44.42 | kaiSVK | for example in suse .. and enter in bash was level up in directories ... |
| 13:45.01 | abrotman | really? |
| 13:45.03 | abrotman | that's dumb |
| 13:45.15 | azeem | kaiSVK: get suse's bash aliases from somewhere then |
| 13:45.31 | dvs | eps: go for experimental! |
| 13:45.41 | abrotman | i used to hit enter to see if i got mail ... |
| 13:45.48 | abrotman | i'd be at / in no time :) |
| 13:45.57 | eps | dvs I have around 30 packages from experimental atm :P |
| 13:46.00 | eps | they break things lots! |
| 13:46.09 | abrotman | eps: and you wonder why your machine isn't stable |
| 13:46.16 | kaiSVK | azeem, thats brutal high terminology for me :D |
| 13:46.23 | kaiSVK | bash aliases ? |
| 13:46.25 | eps | abrotman I didn't say I wondered, I said that osx is stable compared to my sid box |
| 13:46.31 | azeem | kaiSVK: man bash |
| 13:46.31 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 13:46.38 | eps | if you like boring use windows is my take on it |
| 13:46.39 | abrotman | HEY LOOK .. my stuff works :) |
| 13:46.47 | azeem | kaiSVK: you can define aliases, I guess that is what suse did |
| 13:46.53 | eps | my stuff works too! just without the five nines |
| 13:46.58 | azeem | like 'alias ..=cd ..' |
| 13:47.01 | abrotman | eps: if i wanted broken .. i'd use windows on a dell :) |
| 13:47.05 | kaiSVK | I guess too ... |
| 13:47.07 | dvs | heh |
| 13:47.17 | kaiSVK | azeem, this should I write to some bash.conf ? :) |
| 13:47.33 | eps | I want bleeding edge so I use debian sid(-experimental) on amd :P |
| 13:47.36 | Ronin | abrotman: please dont say that, its the weekend i dont need to think of dells running windows |
| 13:47.38 | azeem | or your ~/.bash_profile |
| 13:47.50 | abrotman | Ronin: don't want work calling eh? :) |
| 13:47.56 | dvs | Ronin: nightmares of work? |
| 13:48.03 | azeem | or in some ~/.bash_aliases, and source that from your ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile |
| 13:48.18 | Ronin | exactly |
| 13:48.39 | abrotman | the only dell i have at work is a dual PPro 200 .. no windows on that thing |
| 13:48.59 | dvs | oh. the one with the mega chip! |
| 13:49.03 | abrotman | oh no .. wait . we have one work station |
| 13:49.06 | abrotman | dvs: megaraid .. yes |
| 13:49.18 | eps | haha, our talks with dell to take them on as our new supplier for all pc systems lasted around twenty minutes...with us saying "we require a english speaking accounts manager, if you don't give us one we'll go else where" and they replied "How may we be servicing you" or similar so we went to IBM (now lenovo) and they said 'sure, enjoy' |
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| 13:49.22 | dvs | abrotman: no, the CPU chip on those are HUGE! |
| 13:49.23 | eps | never a problem since, and in english :D |
| 13:49.24 | abrotman | actually .. that might be our only name brand workstation |
| 13:49.27 | abrotman | dvs: oh |
| 13:50.00 | abrotman | eps: i've heard pretty good things about HP support |
| 13:50.39 | eps | we have around fifty dells scattered around the place from when we used HP...they say they will have the PC to you in a specific time period, then days later they inform you of delays they've known about for months |
| 13:50.56 | abrotman | eps: who does that? HP or dell? |
| 13:51.07 | eps | eg...we only buy from them when we can be assured the product does exist, is in ready supply, and we have some one to kill if it isn't |
| 13:51.09 | eps | HP |
| 13:51.45 | eps | not to say we aren't happy with the HP boxes we do have, just lenovo puts together a slightly better package for workstations at a cheaper price with no b/s |
| 13:52.43 | abrotman | bah .. enough hardware talk :) |
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| 13:53.06 | eps | _fjh_ you about? |
| 13:53.22 | eps | in ffox look at about:config and filter on the string: print |
| 13:53.36 | eps | print.printer_PostScript/Stylus-C43UX---CUPS+Gutenprint-v5.0.0-rc1.print_paper_name <--- that string for me defines letter over a4 |
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| 13:53.44 | eps | though...you might be looking for some thing completely different |
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| 13:54.37 | eps | correction: print.postscript.paper_size |
| 13:54.43 | eps | that looks more accurate |
| 13:54.49 | eps | change that to a4 and see what happens |
| 13:54.54 | eps | else just play around with it |
| 13:55.07 | guoming | can someone help to check mplayer can be used to view the video in this page: http://news.xinhuanet.com/video/2006-06/17/content_4710318.htm |
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| 13:58.21 | _fjh_ | eps: thank you! print.postscript.paper_size is indeed letter currently! Will try! |
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| 13:59.29 | guoming | am i online? |
| 13:59.36 | dvs | guoming: no |
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| 13:59.47 | eps | no |
| 13:59.50 | guoming | ok, thne i am. |
| 13:59.55 | Sarge_H33ans__ | i need some help with qemu |
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| 14:00.24 | guoming | dvs: can u help to see if u can view the video at :http://news.xinhuanet.com/video/2006-06/17/content_4710318.htm |
| 14:00.34 | dvs | nope |
| 14:00.43 | guoming | dvs: wtf. |
| 14:01.09 | guoming | dvs: gfy |
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| 14:01.44 | abrotman | hehe |
| 14:01.52 | eps | haha retard |
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| 14:02.07 | eps | funnily enough that page was japanese and didn't work in ffox |
| 14:02.14 | hjubal | hi |
| 14:02.15 | eps | not sure if I have totem or mplayer as my default though |
| 14:02.25 | eps | or at least the video |
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| 14:02.44 | _fjh_ | _eps_ print.postscript.paper_size did not influence result. Is there a way to _force_ papersize in cups? |
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| 14:03.08 | eps | _fjh_ I'll have a look |
| 14:03.37 | zinx | eps: media player connectivity |
| 14:03.47 | slidesinger | Do the postfix and fetchmail packages in etch support TLS? |
| 14:04.15 | eps | fjh http://localhost:631/printers/ -> the printer you want -> set printer options and it's media size in general |
| 14:04.26 | eps | fjh after that I'm out of ideas sorry |
| 14:04.34 | eps | zinx mmm what package provides that? |
| 14:04.57 | zinx | eps: it's a firefox extension, probably not packaged |
| 14:05.32 | slidesinger | Second, is there a way/place one goes to typically learn specifics of package compile options? |
| 14:05.36 | USmarine | mozilla-mplayer |
| 14:05.54 | zinx | USmarine: media player connectivity lets you download it :D |
| 14:06.04 | abrotman | slidesinger: you grab the source packages and look at the rules file .. in the case of postfix .. look at postfix-tls |
| 14:06.08 | USmarine | slidesinger, http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-3.3/gcc/Optimize-Options.html |
| 14:06.25 | abrotman | USmarine: i think he meant debian packages :) |
| 14:06.49 | slidesinger | I did mean debain packages, sorry. |
| 14:07.11 | eps | kk |
| 14:07.31 | eps | I dl'ed totem-mozilla today :P ... guessed it was an interconnet of some type |
| 14:07.36 | USmarine | sorry about that then, those worked during my gentoo days |
| 14:07.43 | _fjh_ | eps: I have been there. This seems to be the default papersize and does not result in forcing papersize. Thank you anyway! |
| 14:08.00 | kaiSVK | azeem, I am very impressed with Debian testing :) |
| 14:08.09 | kaiSVK | azeem, speedy distro Debian is :D |
| 14:08.34 | abrotman | USmarine: no .. he means like when you ./configure --with-tls --with-foo --with-bar .. stuff like that |
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| 14:08.48 | slidesinger | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 14:08.58 | eps | _fjh_ try in the #firefox channel, some one there may have had a chop at fixing your problem, sorry I couldn't help more |
| 14:08.59 | abrotman | USmarine: make more sense now? |
| 14:09.12 | abrotman | it's gonna be a hot one today |
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| 14:10.54 | Apage43 | dpkg: non-us? |
| 14:10.54 | dpkg | [non-us] where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01355.html |
| 14:11.02 | _fjh_ | eps: ok. Is there a cups channel too? |
| 14:11.12 | Apage43 | oh |
| 14:11.15 | Apage43 | neat |
| 14:11.24 | Apage43 | dpkg: non-free? |
| 14:11.24 | dpkg | non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Also ask me about "vrms" |
| 14:11.28 | eps | _fjh_ indeed there is, with only 7 people on it :P |
| 14:11.29 | abrotman | Apage43: /msg dpkg hi |
| 14:11.38 | kaiSVK | ooooh myyyy goood :) people must be blind when missing debian :) |
| 14:11.40 | Apage43 | abrotman: Oh =P |
| 14:11.59 | kaiSVK | its soo speedy and tuned when compared to suse... |
| 14:12.39 | Anduril | I think recently lm-sensors were updated in testing and today when rebooting I get the following message for sensors: 'Can't access procfs/sysfs file. Unable to find i2c bus information;" Anyone here with the same problem? |
| 14:13.02 | Bazy | Hi guys! I get this error, Starting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName, in /etc/hostname my hostname is set, where should I set it for apache2 to see it? |
| 14:13.33 | kaiSVK | httpd.conf ? |
| 14:13.44 | larsdbj | httpd.conf ServerName blabla.co |
| 14:16.46 | Bazy | found it :-) it automatically reads from /etc/hosts and if you only define 127.0.0.1 it doesn't like it... I hate Etch :-) |
| 14:17.23 | abrotman | it does it in sarge too |
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| 14:17.47 | kaiSVK | Bazy, I think its general the same in every apache newly installed |
| 14:18.14 | Bazy | does the sarge netinstall supports pppoe? cause Etch doesn't... |
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| 14:20.26 | _fjh_ | eps: I found http://www.easysw.com/~mike/cups/newsgroups.php?gcups.general+v:21036 and will try to hack ppd now! |
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| 14:21.41 | Nagytalop | hi :D |
| 14:21.49 | kaiSVK | Nagytalop, hi |
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| 14:22.12 | Nagytalop | use anybody uhu-linux? |
| 14:22.38 | dorel_1 | how do i dig up some information on my hd so i can buy another one which is an exact copy (cylinders, etc)? |
| 14:22.39 | zinx | what an odd thing to ask in #debian |
| 14:22.49 | USmarine | cof cof #debian |
| 14:22.59 | Nagytalop | this based on debian.... |
| 14:23.04 | Ronin | !based on |
| 14:23.04 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
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| 14:23.50 | Nagytalop | hmmm |
| 14:24.01 | Nagytalop | i can use deb packages in uhu |
| 14:24.16 | Ronin | perhaps Nagytalop should try #uhu-linux for more help? |
| 14:24.24 | Nagytalop | but...how can i stop the X |
| 14:24.31 | zinx | Nagytalop: We don't know. |
| 14:24.41 | Nagytalop | ok |
| 14:24.45 | Nagytalop | thank you |
| 14:25.27 | liable | getting closer! |
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| 14:25.49 | dorel_1 | is there a way to get some more specific hd info like manufacturer? |
| 14:26.12 | zinx | dorel_1: yeah, it's show in dmesg, or by smartctl, and probably by hdparm with some options |
| 14:26.16 | zinx | erh, shown |
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| 14:26.31 | abrotman | dorel_1: look in /proc/ |
| 14:26.51 | zinx | dorel_1: if the filesystem's not corrupt, you should probably consider tarring it as root rather than doing a direct copy of the drive, if that is in fact what you're doing |
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| 14:27.27 | dorel_1 | zinx: yeah im planing to buy another 250gb and do dd, is this a bad idea? |
| 14:27.54 | USmarine | dorel_1, try hdparm -g /dev/hdXN |
| 14:28.03 | USmarine | sorry dev/hdX |
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| 14:29.25 | dorel_1 | zinx: how do i back up the system from a root tar? (tarring up the / partition) |
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| 14:31.27 | zinx | dorel_1: depends on how many filesystems you have :D be sure to use -l (aka --one-file-system) |
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| 14:32.07 | zinx | dorel_1: i definitely wouldn't buy a 20G |
| 14:32.14 | zinx | erh, you said 250GB |
| 14:32.17 | abrotman | liable: you can't block out the memories! |
| 14:32.34 | liable | abrotman: i am drowning them in beer :) |
| 14:32.41 | abrotman | liable: but it's sunday! |
| 14:32.52 | liable | no! its monday! |
| 14:33.02 | liable | here anyway... |
| 14:33.09 | zinx | liable: nope, here is #debian |
| 14:33.11 | liable | only just |
| 14:33.15 | zinx | liable: in #debian, it's sunday :D |
| 14:33.21 | abrotman | oh yeah .. you're like .. $ME + 15 or something |
| 14:33.23 | liable | nein |
| 14:33.28 | liable | +10 |
| 14:33.47 | liable | 12:32 to be exact :) |
| 14:33.50 | dorel_1 | zinx: i've got sda1, sda2, sda3 and sda4 which is swap. |
| 14:33.50 | abrotman | then it wouldn't be monday |
| 14:33.57 | liable | erm, 00:32 :P |
| 14:34.04 | abrotman | liable: you're UTC + 10 .. i'm not UTC .. that's why i said $ME |
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| 14:34.15 | dorel_1 | zinx: im just wondering if im tarring up the system how can i restore it later on |
| 14:34.25 | abrotman | i was close though .. you're $ME + 14 |
| 14:34.28 | liable | abrotman: oh, but you *are* utc, you just dont know it :P |
| 14:34.33 | zinx | dorel_1: by creating some filesystems and untarring |
| 14:34.47 | zinx | dorel_1: (again, as root) |
| 14:34.51 | liable | abrotman: everyone is utc :) |
| 14:34.53 | abrotman | liable: don't make me UTC .. it's just not normal .. i don't care if all the cool kids are doing it |
| 14:34.58 | abrotman | !utcsmite liable |
| 14:35.10 | abrotman | !swatchtimesmite liable |
| 14:35.17 | liable | abrotman: i only know cause of my job, i am not a cool kid :P |
| 14:35.21 | abrotman | heh |
| 14:35.38 | dorel_1 | zinx: you mean creating the same file systems |
| 14:35.46 | kaiSVK | and what I most like on Debian .... it has no special DebianTHEMES for KDE and Gnome like mainly commercial distros have :) |
| 14:36.02 | dorel_1 | zinx: wouldn't it matter the cyls of where each file system started/ended or the size of them? |
| 14:36.06 | abrotman | actually .. i thikn there are some .. just not packaged |
| 14:36.07 | zinx | dorel_1: no |
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| 14:36.17 | zinx | dorel_1: not if you make tarballs of them instead of direct copies |
| 14:36.44 | zinx | dorel_1: only thing you have to worry about is partition number, and you can just edit fstab if you switch them around |
| 14:36.52 | dorel_1 | i see |
| 14:36.55 | dorel_1 | ok cool |
| 14:37.00 | dorel_1 | ill work on that |
| 14:37.04 | zinx | and for the swap, you'll need to mkswap it |
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| 14:37.45 | the_mule42 | Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'. xorg7, latest debian from testing. anyone have a solution? |
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| 14:39.01 | kaiSVK | is there some good how to how to make multimedia up and running ? |
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| 14:40.07 | joachim_ | hi |
| 14:40.36 | pollywog | debianites, I saw error msgs when I booted my machine but dmesg does not show them. Is there a way to read those error messages? they went by too fast |
| 14:40.49 | liable | i am gonna kill someone if i dont get sound out of my tvcard soon |
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| 14:41.13 | pollywog | liable: what tv card do you have, so I don't buy the same one? |
| 14:41.37 | liable | pollywog: you can ^S and ^Q to start/stop boot mesaages, or enable bootlogd in /etc/default/ |
| 14:41.39 | slidesinger | Question: If I am using fetchmail to grap pop3 and deliver to post fix, should postfix general configuration be local only or internet or something else? |
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| 14:41.57 | abrotman | liable: have you checked the alsa howto stuff? |
| 14:41.59 | pollywog | liable: thanks, I did not know that, about bootlogd |
| 14:42.17 | liable | pollywog: its a cardbus that used to work, theres some new alsa shits thats pissing me off |
| 14:42.23 | kepht | the_mule42: i'm not finding a fix for fonts messed up from the xorg7 upgrade either |
| 14:42.34 | pollywog | liable: oic did you try module assistant? |
| 14:42.43 | kaiSVK | how to install divx, mp3 support mplayer and all that veeery important things :) |
| 14:42.44 | abrotman | wiki |
| 14:42.46 | liable | pollywog: erm, nevermind :P |
| 14:43.12 | the_mule42 | kepht: i did a clean install, no upgrade |
| 14:43.21 | abrotman | check the wiki |
| 14:43.21 | kaiSVK | and what repos I need to add ? |
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| 14:43.27 | kaiSVK | please help |
| 14:43.30 | liable | if i wasnt in need of getting it working, i bet it would.. |
| 14:43.32 | kepht | the_mule42: interesting |
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| 14:44.02 | liable | kepht: debian-multimedia .. /msg dpkg marillat |
| 14:44.03 | pollywog | liable: yeah just when you need something, something goes wrong |
| 14:44.09 | the_mule42 | kaiSVK: apt-get install xine-ui xmms |
| 14:44.20 | Bazy | does the sarge net-install support pppoe? cause Etch doesn't... |
| 14:44.32 | kepht | the_mule42: the wiki page says to purge xfonts-base, but that doesn't help |
| 14:44.56 | liable | Bazy: not the installer, but if you install base and ppoeconfig |
| 14:45.14 | pollywog | I had some sort of trouble with ALSA and module assistant fixed it though I usually did not need it |
| 14:45.15 | liable | its prolly even in base.. |
| 14:45.20 | kaiSVK | the_mule42, I know I know ... but I am probably missing some install sources ... |
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| 14:46.54 | pollywog | does anyone still use roaring penguin for DSL? |
| 14:47.16 | pollywog | just curious |
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| 14:47.36 | liable | grr, damn driver wont register /dev/dsp2 |
| 14:48.21 | pollywog | liable: you mean you do not have a /dev/dsp2? |
| 14:48.37 | pollywog | I remember I installed a package that fixed that problem |
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| 14:48.41 | sid_vicious | hi. i just did a dist-upgrade on sid and now my emacs fonts are borked. any idea on a change in font handling that is giving me the error message Warning: Cannot convert |
| 14:48.41 | sid_vicious | string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct |
| 14:49.04 | pollywog | I think it was something to do with oss-emu |
| 14:49.09 | abrotman | nancy? |
| 14:49.35 | kaiSVK | pleeeease .... anyone please help me with install sources ... |
| 14:49.46 | pollywog | kaiSVK: what's the problem? |
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| 14:49.52 | abrotman | what else doyyou want? |
| 14:50.24 | kaiSVK | pollywog, I have just basic install sources and I want to install xine, its libs, xmms, divx, xvid, w32 codecs etc ... |
| 14:50.35 | kaiSVK | pollywog, I have just installed debian ... |
| 14:50.36 | pollywog | oh I can get that for you |
| 14:50.49 | kaiSVK | pollywog, I hope u will be so kind ... |
| 14:50.57 | liable | pollywog: yes, i dont have /dev/dsp2 when i modprobe saa7134 oss=1 with 2.6.16 kernel |
| 14:50.58 | pollywog | open a chat window to me so I can give you the sources |
| 14:51.03 | kaiSVK | pollywog, heard much about Debian's community ;) |
| 14:51.15 | kaiSVK | pollywog, ok |
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| 14:51.31 | liable | pollywog: nor do i know how to get the damn alsa driver for it to work with tvtime |
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| 14:51.55 | liable | pollywog: if you know how to help, i would be very appreciative |
| 14:52.13 | pollywog | liable: I don't have one of those cards |
| 14:52.27 | liable | right.. |
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| 14:52.37 | pollywog | I thought perhaps module assistant would show you the driver you need |
| 14:52.46 | pollywog | and install it |
| 14:53.41 | pollywog | kaiSVK: as soon as I ident to the server I will open a chat window |
| 14:54.07 | thd | Does anyone have good advice about how to update an etch system to X11R7 successfully? I have found http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 documents some of the pain. |
| 14:54.34 | kepht | nope |
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| 14:55.11 | sid_vicious | exit |
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| 14:55.20 | Coweater | wasn't any special tricks for me, just checked what it said in that doc |
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| 14:56.01 | thd | Coweater: I cannot get x11-common to install. |
| 14:56.43 | kepht | what was the reason/error it gave? |
| 14:56.52 | Eulex | !x11-common conflict |
| 14:56.53 | dpkg | i heard x11-common conflict is if you get an error about conflicting files in xfree86-common and x11-common, run "apt-get install xfree86-common- x11-common". NOTE: the '-' after xfree86-common is required |
| 14:57.06 | Eulex | thd, ^^ |
| 14:58.06 | abrotman | might be a different error .. opera doesn't let it install either |
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| 14:58.20 | abrotman | !tell root_ about root |
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| 14:58.41 | Eulex | yeah, assuming it's that error. |
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| 14:58.45 | sunrise | hi all |
| 14:58.51 | liable | hola |
| 14:58.53 | larsdbj | hello |
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| 14:59.02 | USmarine | howdy, ur kinda l8 sunrise |
| 14:59.04 | sunrise | looking for a command line application to convert the bitrate of mp3 files in batch mode ? |
| 14:59.07 | USmarine | it's 4pm in here |
| 14:59.15 | pollywog | KaiSVK: did you get what I sent you? |
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| 15:00.45 | thd | abrotman: I have Opera installed but I thought that the only issue was over the symlink needed to replace /usr/X11R6/bin so that it points to /usr/bin |
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| 15:00.53 | mtomczak | Hey everyone! So I've been working on getting X11 up-and-running on a new graphics card (ATI Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE])... |
| 15:01.03 | Eulex | sunrise, decode with lame and encode again? |
| 15:01.25 | mtomczak | The gdm session gets to the "Welcome / login" X11 screen, but when I log in as any user and it gets to the desktop it hard-freezes. |
| 15:01.45 | pollywog | KaiSVK: if you need more help just ask |
| 15:01.57 | thd | abrotman: Opera stores a symlink of its own in /usr/X11R6/bin which I moved out of the directory. |
| 15:02.08 | mtomczak | Note that the login screen (and all options, "Language, session, actions") work fine, it's just that any time I get all the way to a user things die. |
| 15:02.10 | marco13185 | err, was this "Update Manager" added to the Gnome package in Debian? |
| 15:02.12 | marco13185 | or xfce? |
| 15:02.55 | marco13185 | because I've never seen it before, and all of a sudden, it's alerting of of updates |
| 15:03.15 | mtomczak | So I'm not sure what to try next. What sort of things even cause a hard-freeze (mouse stops working, keyboard goes non-responsive---not even the caps lock light updates---and remote terminals get dropped and no longer allow external login). |
| 15:03.32 | abrotman | thd: purge opera .. try again |
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| 15:04.55 | thd | abrotman: I will purge Opera as you sugest |
| 15:05.26 | zinx | mtomczak: hardware problems, driver problems (more likely, in your case).. especially try disabling AGP |
| 15:05.43 | mtomczak | zinx: That's the accelerated graphics for 3D? |
| 15:06.07 | the_mule42 | mtomczak: look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:06.11 | zinx | mtomczak: it's an accelerated method of transferring data to/from the video card |
| 15:08.10 | mtomczak | One other piece of the puzzle is that I am bringing this card up with straight-default options. |
| 15:08.59 | mtomczak | As in, the Xorg.conf file device entry names the device and the "radeon" driver, but doesn't mention other options. |
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| 15:15.54 | solemnwarning | Hi all |
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| 15:16.11 | solemnwarning | How can I redirect mysql error messages that go to syslog into /var/log/mysql.error? |
| 15:16.25 | mtomczak | Bam! That's got it! |
| 15:16.34 | solemnwarning | I can't find anything about redirecting depending on program name in syslog.conf(5) |
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| 15:16.57 | mtomczak | And my framerate is now terrible, but that (a) can probably be fixed and (b) is a heck of a lot more useful than "Not able to do anything because everything is frozen solid." |
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| 15:17.26 | cahoot | solemnwarning: read /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 15:17.45 | mtomczak | For reference: The two options I added above the defaults were "NoAccel" "true" and "RenderAccel" "disable" |
| 15:17.52 | solemnwarning | All thats there says that debian modified mysql to use syslog instead of doing its own error logging |
| 15:18.01 | mtomczak | zinx: Thanks for the help! |
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| 15:18.41 | cahoot | solemnwarning: the line(s) above? |
| 15:19.45 | solemnwarning | Are for setting query logging |
| 15:19.58 | solemnwarning | Why did debian modify MySQL to not do its own error logging? |
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| 15:22.09 | the_mule42 | kepht: i got past that dreaded error by installing xfonts-base package. shouldn't that have been selected automatically by the xserver-xorg package? |
| 15:22.46 | kepht | the_mule42: dunno, i'm still trying to resolve font problems due to xorg69to7 |
| 15:23.15 | kepht | the_mule42: stable/testing/unstable ..which do you have? |
| 15:23.21 | the_mule42 | testing |
| 15:23.24 | kepht | me too |
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| 15:23.53 | the_mule42 | well, i'd suggest purging your old xorg |
| 15:24.19 | solemnwarning | Anyone? |
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| 15:25.43 | USmarine | !xorg69to7 |
| 15:25.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xorg69to7 is http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 15:25.46 | kepht | wouldn't be in half the trouble, if the xorg upgrade had a more explicit warning |
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| 15:27.18 | pipeline | mtomczak: Are you using the fantastically ill-devised framebuffer? If so, disable it. That's your most likely problem. |
| 15:27.36 | pipeline | mtomczak: "NoAccel" is something you should AVOID setting, because it'll RUIN performance. At that point you're worse off than using VESA. |
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| 15:28.23 | Eulex | doesn't NoAccel just disable 3d acceleration? |
| 15:28.47 | pipeline | Eulex: No, it disables all acceleration of any kind. |
| 15:28.52 | pipeline | Eulex: i.e. turns the card into a dumb framebuffer. |
| 15:29.00 | Eulex | hmm, ok |
| 15:29.12 | pipeline | Eulex: Try enabling it. You'll see the difference immediately. 2D acceleration *rocks*. |
| 15:29.13 | mtomczak | pipeline: Which framebuffer is the fantastically ill-advised one? ;) |
| 15:29.35 | pipeline | mtomczak: kernel framebuffer bullshit. "vga=" in the kernel arguments. |
| 15:29.47 | USmarine | pipeline, teach me how to run doom 3 with 2d and i'll share your opinion |
| 15:29.52 | pipeline | mtomczak: It's the cause of 99% of "OMG X11 is broken crap" |
| 15:30.26 | mtomczak | pipeline: Excellent. I'll look into it. Where are the kernel arguments: are they fed to it by grub when it bootstraps? |
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| 15:30.32 | pipeline | USmarine: I don't give a flying fuck about your videogames. I could live without OpenGL, but basic 2d acceleration functions are non-negotiable. Just try to use a browser with "NoAccel" enabled. OpenGL will still work. |
| 15:30.39 | pipeline | mtomczak: If you're using grub, yes. |
| 15:30.57 | pipeline | mtomczak: The next thing to try is disabling the kernel driver; i.e. starting without "radeon" being present in lsmod. |
| 15:31.03 | mtomczak | (Sorry to be ig'nant, I've only rebuilt the kernel from scratch once, and it was about 6 months ago. My brain packaged away a lot of that knowledge in a place that can only be reached with cheap beer) ;) |
| 15:31.19 | pipeline | mtomczak: I don't build my kernels from scratch. Haven't in pushing two years now. There's no reason to do it that way anymore. |
| 15:31.37 | kepht | there is if you want a newer kernel |
| 15:31.57 | pipeline | kepht: Utterly irrational. |
| 15:32.09 | pipeline | kepht: The kernel.org trees are known-bad, and the maintainers make no claims about their stability. |
| 15:32.26 | pipeline | kepht: At least, all versions after 2.6.7 are not expected to be the least bit usable |
| 15:32.59 | mtomczak | Okay, cool. It appears that my only argument to the kernel is "root=dev/hda1 ro single," if I'm in the right place. |
| 15:33.07 | mtomczak | (that from /boot/grub/menu.lst) |
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| 15:33.41 | pipeline | mtomczak: That would suggest that you don't have the framebuffer enabled. That's a good thing. If X is running, stop it. Then "rmmod radeon" to remove the DRM driver from the kernel. |
| 15:33.46 | liable | aww, vanilla is ok :) |
| 15:33.56 | pipeline | liable: It was at one time. It is not anymore. |
| 15:34.14 | liable | pipeline: why do you say that? |
| 15:34.16 | pipeline | liable: At least, it's not guaranteed to be, anymore. |
| 15:34.22 | kepht | pipeline: 2.6.16.20 works |
| 15:34.43 | pipeline | liable: Change in policy. There aren't going to be any more stable/unstable branches. As it stands today, the kernel maintainers expect distributions to do all the grunt work. They're happy as long as the damn thing compiles. |
| 15:34.59 | pipeline | liable: As such, I will no longer touch the vanilla trees. It's not worth my time. |
| 15:35.00 | kepht | yeah, nothing is guaranteed, unless you run debian stable :P |
| 15:35.16 | liable | pipeline: fair enough |
| 15:35.28 | pipeline | kepht: It wasn't always that way. They used to at least claim you should be able to use the vanilla trees without immense suffering. They were usually lying, but at least they were making an attempt :) |
| 15:35.48 | mtomczak | pipeline: Okay. Is there a 'healthy' way to stop X11 after boot? I usually just run down the process tree hitting all the GDM pieces that get automatically run at boot-time with kill -9. |
| 15:36.08 | pipeline | mtomczak: heh, the easy way to stop gdm is /etc/init.d/gdm. |
| 15:36.14 | USmarine | apt-get remove gdm |
| 15:36.18 | mtomczak | *doh* :) |
| 15:36.19 | pipeline | mtomczak: There are scripts to start and stop most services, you know. |
| 15:36.44 | mtomczak | pipeline: Yeah, I'm familiar with them. For some reason, it never occured to me to go looking for a better solution once I found out the kill -9 works. ;) |
| 15:37.23 | pipeline | mtomczak: At any rate, try starting X without the kernel driver loaded. Or, try starting X *with* the kernel driver loaded :) |
| 15:37.46 | mtomczak | Okay. Kernel driver is currently loaded, so I have hit it with rmmod. |
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| 15:38.41 | mtomczak | Restarted X... and the GUI is back. Performance did not change. |
| 15:38.42 | pipeline | mtomczak: Oh, and disable render accel. or rather, leave it disabled. |
| 15:38.57 | pipeline | mtomczak: Well, with "NoAccel" on, performance is always going to be awful :) |
| 15:39.14 | pipeline | mtomczak: You *are* using the "radeon" driver, right? Using the "fbdev" or "vesa" drivers is going to be awful. The "ati" driver shouldn't even work. |
| 15:39.21 | KaiSVK | I am gonna install ati driver ... |
| 15:39.26 | KaiSVK | hope its not suicide |
| 15:39.36 | pipeline | KaiSVK: It's your funeral. Hope you like 16 bit color. |
| 15:39.44 | mtomczak | So I haven't made any changes to my xorg.conf settings: NoAccel is still on, RenderAccel is still disabled. |
| 15:40.09 | KaiSVK | pipeline, thanx ;) but I have managed installing ati drivers on worse linux distros than Debian :) |
| 15:40.25 | mtomczak | Should I turn off NoAccel and try again? |
| 15:42.37 | mtomczak | pipeline: Ah, nevermind, I tried it. Switching off NoAccel and disabling RenderAccel has made life both fast and good. |
| 15:42.51 | pipeline | mtomczak: does it work with the DRM driver loaded? |
| 15:43.01 | mtomczak | Which one is the DRM driver? |
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| 15:43.13 | mtomczak | Sorry, I may have missed that step :( |
| 15:43.15 | pipeline | mtomczak: The kernel driver. It makes accelerated OpenGL work. |
| 15:43.41 | pipeline | mtomczak: You use the same userspace driver whether you want accelerated GL or not: 'radeon.o'. There's an accompanying kernel module that makes a bunch of extra hardware acceleration possible -- 'radeon.ko' |
| 15:43.52 | mtomczak | Ahhhh.... |
| 15:43.53 | pipeline | mtomczak: 'radeon.o' is a plugin for X.org. |
| 15:43.58 | pipeline | mtomczak: 'radeon.ko' is a plugin for the kernel. |
| 15:44.01 | mtomczak | (shuffle shuffle checks lsmod...) |
| 15:44.11 | pipeline | mtomczak: You can also use 'glxinfo | grep irect' |
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| 15:44.38 | mtomczak | glxinfo: command not found |
| 15:44.44 | KaiSVK | how can Install kernel source package ? what is its name ? |
| 15:44.44 | mtomczak | And lsmod doesn't show an instance of "radeon" |
| 15:45.07 | mtomczak | Nope, nope, I was wrong... lsmod _does_ show "radeon." |
| 15:45.24 | mtomczak | Did it get auto-loaded? |
| 15:45.35 | mtomczak | Because I did rmmod radeon, and it reported that was successful. |
| 15:45.54 | exobyte | I'm using microcom to talk to my pci modem. (btw, doing cat /dev/mymodem works). Typing atz <enter> doesn't give me an OK. part of this is I suck and minicom. I enabled local echo, too |
| 15:46.16 | pipeline | mtomczak: Couldn't tell you. At any rate, if it works, it works. Be sure to install the correct libGL so you can have accelerated OpenGL :) |
| 15:46.52 | mtomczak | pipeline: Thanks so much! It's great to have X11 back; I can start using another IRC client instead of spending all my chat-time using bitchx to... :-p |
| 15:47.38 | pipeline | mtomczak: render acceleration will probably work, too, if you use XF86 instead of X.org. |
| 15:47.54 | pipeline | mtomczak: x.org is really pretty goddamned broken. They care a lot more about speeding up development than not breaking things. |
| 15:48.09 | pipeline | mtomczak: The big new features in the newest X.org is mostly the removal of existing features that they broke accidentally :P |
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| 15:48.18 | KaiSVK | :D |
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| 15:49.14 | pipeline | mtomczak: Not that it matters. The only thing Xrender is used for is drawing pretty fonts. So unless you spend a lot of time in a web browser, who gives a fuck? |
| 15:49.39 | mha13 | how do i configure my to use alsa isnted off oss ? |
| 15:51.16 | cahoot | mha13: try /msg dpkg alsa |
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| 15:52.04 | GeorgeS069 | howdy folks |
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| 15:54.42 | liable | hola |
| 15:54.56 | cahoot | liable: got sound yet? |
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| 15:55.25 | liable | cahoot: nah, i got a sound stream going :( |
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| 15:55.45 | cahoot | liable: well sound + picture? |
| 15:56.21 | killown | brazil won today |
| 15:56.28 | liable | cahoot: i got picture on the card, and sound from the net, so at least i got the whole picture.. eventually :) |
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| 15:56.31 | GentleTux | hello |
| 15:56.32 | liable | killown: wtf? |
| 15:56.41 | cahoot | killown: you in a special timezone? |
| 15:56.56 | killown | ? |
| 15:57.19 | liable | killown: um, brazil is only just about to start the game... |
| 15:57.30 | killown | hahaha |
| 15:57.49 | GentleTux | after an update of Debian Etch, my XFCE has issues. it only displays an unconfigured panel without any menues, utils, etc. and the version of xfce4-panel is 4.3.90.1-2 for some reason while the other components are 4.3.90.1-1 |
| 15:57.53 | GentleTux | any ideas? |
| 15:58.10 | liable | GentleTux: yeah, maybe read the changelog |
| 15:58.15 | sebas007 | hello, I'm stuck with a root file system in read-only... remount,rw is not working :-( |
| 15:58.31 | GentleTux | i cant read change logs or surf websites, i am on dialup here. so whats the deal? |
| 15:58.43 | zinx | .... |
| 15:59.00 | liable | GentleTux: um, the changelog is in your docs.. /usr/share/doc/xfce4-panel/ |
| 15:59.12 | zinx | the changelog is already installed, and i don't see why you can't surf websites just because you are on dialup |
| 15:59.21 | killown | cahoot, brazil it is successful then |
| 15:59.27 | GentleTux | for gods sake, you guys are on IRC, hello! |
| 15:59.32 | zinx | Hi. |
| 15:59.54 | liable | killown: shuddup |
| 16:00.17 | sebas007 | lets watch the brazil game in background. |
| 16:01.08 | liable | meh, my audio is way behind :( |
| 16:02.00 | sebas007 | I cannot get around this problem # mount -o remount,rw / mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 16:02.10 | GentleTux | so how can i get the environment back that i used to have? |
| 16:02.24 | zinx | GentleTux: read the changelog yet? |
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| 16:03.35 | GentleTux | any guy on this channel who cares to help instead of showing smelly attitude? |
| 16:04.01 | liable | GentleTux: you mean someone that wants to breastfeed you? |
| 16:04.14 | zamaliphe | how to completely remove of opera and firfox to install the new version ? |
| 16:04.21 | GentleTux | no, someone who does not try to be a dick on IRC like you liable or like zinx |
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| 16:04.30 | spiral | hello |
| 16:04.38 | mha13 | when i do alsaconf it says no support forpnp & pci |
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| 16:05.08 | zinx | GentleTux: sorry, i'll give you a refund right away |
| 16:05.09 | zamaliphe | or how to check why opera is crashing ? |
| 16:05.17 | plb | anyone on debian unstable using mplayer from the debian repo have issues with using xv as video output? |
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| 16:05.34 | GentleTux | zinx, its not like you have your kind of fun here just cause the chat is free |
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| 16:05.41 | plb | I keep getting this msg -> It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available |
| 16:05.52 | GentleTux | zinx, go play with your little dick or something. but stay away from support channels |
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| 16:06.04 | zinx | GentleTux: you think it's fun trying to help abusive users who won't do anything for themselves? it's really not. |
| 16:06.14 | GentleTux | zinx, bla bla |
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| 16:06.48 | GeorgeS069 | GentleTux: just read the changelog on your system |
| 16:06.59 | polishkoop | I'm running debian sarge, kernel 2.6 and I am trying to set up wireless internet for it and I have a linksys pci adapter model wmp54gs. |
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| 16:07.08 | GentleTux | GeorgeS069, i read it for fuck sake but it does not solve my problem |
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| 16:07.23 | Coke | Hey guys. I get a "seek failed" when trying to play the vob-files of a DVD, I guess it's some kind of copy protection. Any way to get around it? |
| 16:07.25 | zinx | fwiw, though the changelog does tell why you lost your settings, it does not say it explicitly or in a manner that would help |
| 16:07.26 | Antixrict | hello all |
| 16:07.31 | Antixrict | anyone can help me this apt-get? |
| 16:07.42 | Antixrict | how i can downgrade or install duplicate perl |
| 16:07.47 | Antixrict | i have perl 5.8.7 |
| 16:07.52 | Antixrict | but i want 5.8.6 |
| 16:07.57 | Antixrict | how i can do this? |
| 16:08.06 | zinx | GentleTux: the xfce4 folks kindly made the settings incompatible in the new version |
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| 16:08.21 | nicky|Muse | Hello guys, is it possible to use php5 with apache2 in sarge ? |
| 16:08.30 | zinx | Gentle: you'll have to set it up again. |
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| 16:08.43 | zamaliphe | zinx: when I'm having what i can call real problem a came here to ask about it i think every one do the same |
| 16:09.14 | zinx | zamaliphe: it is a support channel :D |
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| 16:09.37 | zinx | zamaliphe: it's not the people with problems we don't like, it's the abusive people ;) |
| 16:09.59 | Antixrict | anyone can help me this apt-get and perl? :( |
| 16:10.15 | zamaliphe | how to get opera stand |
| 16:10.25 | pipeline | Antixrict: The easy solution is checking /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 16:10.37 | pipeline | Antixrict: If you still have perl 5.8.6, you can force the downgrade by manually installing it with "dpkg -i" |
| 16:10.45 | pipeline | Antixrict: You can then 'hold' the package -- google that. |
| 16:10.48 | zamaliphe | how to completely remove of opera and firfox to install the new version ? |
| 16:10.49 | GeorgeS069 | Antixrict: you will probably have to do apt-get remove --purge pkgname to fully remove perl then reinstall the version you want |
| 16:10.52 | Antixrict | pipeline no |
| 16:10.57 | Antixrict | i have 5.8.7 |
| 16:11.00 | pipeline | Antixrict: If you DON'T have the old package, you'll have to download the old package from snapshot.debian.net |
| 16:11.01 | Antixrict | but i want 5.8.6 |
| 16:11.02 | nicky|Muse | I have a prob with sarge: I need to use php4 + mysql, and with aptitude, I have php4 with configure option '--without-mysql' ... How to do ? |
| 16:11.09 | pipeline | Antixrict: Ah, but 5.8.6 might still be in your old package cache. |
| 16:11.23 | pipeline | Antixrict: Check the cache to see if the package is there. If it's not, you'll have to FIND it, and that sucks |
| 16:11.23 | Antixrict | pipeline yes but how i can install it too |
| 16:11.24 | Antixrict | ? |
| 16:11.30 | pipeline | Antixrict: I just told you. Read your logs. Christ. |
| 16:11.35 | polishkoop | why won't apt-get install ndiswrapper work for me? |
| 16:11.47 | Stork | how can i put reiserfs on my server? |
| 16:11.56 | pipeline | Stork: If you have a brain, you don't. |
| 16:12.03 | GeorgeS069 | lol |
| 16:12.03 | Stork | on one of my hard drives even |
| 16:12.05 | pipeline | Stork: So your first task is to bash your brains out against a wall. |
| 16:12.13 | pipeline | Stork: I suggest brick, as it's easier to clean than concrete. |
| 16:12.14 | Stork | pipeline, reiser is so much better then ext3... |
| 16:12.16 | GeorgeS069 | don't use reiserFS |
| 16:12.18 | Bazy | Hello, I'm using Etch, I compiled my kernel with IMQ support, how can I create a iptables package and patch it with IMQ support, or where can I find an iptables with IMQ support? |
| 16:12.22 | pipeline | Stork: For some value of "better" meaning "utter shit", yes. |
| 16:12.31 | Stork | pipeline, did i say utter shit? idiot. |
| 16:12.51 | pipeline | Stork: You don't seem to get it. ReiserFS is utter, complete shit. Hans Reiser is a blowhard. He is not above simply lying to defend his ego. |
| 16:12.59 | pipeline | Stork: If you're not an idiot, you won't bother. |
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| 16:13.31 | pipeline | Bazy: Add some "deb-src" lines to your sources.list, then use apt-get source <package name> to get the original package build tree. |
| 16:13.32 | Stork | pipeline, it takes less space, and is faster then ext3.. and i have like 30000 files that i need to put on this 40gb hard drive |
| 16:13.52 | pipeline | Bazy: You can then patch the tree, edit the debian/changelog file, and run the debian/rules script to build a new package. |
| 16:14.21 | pipeline | Stork: Those two things are mutually exclusive. The only times ReiserFS is *as fast as* ext3 is when you allow it to waste space indiscriminately. |
| 16:14.34 | Antixrict | pipeline but it's server i can uninstall there perl and install then 5.8.6? i have spamassassin there.. |
| 16:14.37 | pipeline | Stork: You would be a fool to follow this path to its end, and as such, I'll not help you with it. I doubt anyone will. |
| 16:14.42 | Joint | man this sucks, i wonder why i cannot boot up with my laptop it take so long to boot, on the kernel |
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| 16:14.47 | pipeline | Antixrict: You simply install the new one, and it will replace it. |
| 16:14.54 | Tenkawa | Hey any of you use wpasupplicant? |
| 16:14.54 | pipeline | Joint: What happens? does it just take a while to load many services? |
| 16:15.16 | Joint | pipeline yeah for ever |
| 16:15.16 | Stork | pipeline, i already put reiserfs on my ubuntu box and it's much better |
| 16:15.17 | Tenkawa | It works fine if I have my ap set to broadcast. if I turn ssid broadcast off it wont connect |
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| 16:15.21 | Tenkawa | any ideas? |
| 16:15.26 | pipeline | Stork: I'm just going to put you on ignore. You're a moron, and it shows. |
| 16:15.31 | Stork | haha |
| 16:15.34 | Antixrict | pipeline problem is that i can't install many packages because he compile for perl5.8.6 :( |
| 16:15.42 | Antixrict | that even |
| 16:15.45 | Stork | someone's pissy because they can't find a reason whjy i should use ext3 |
| 16:15.46 | pipeline | Tenkawa: That's odd. Given that WPA is quite secure, I would probably just leave it broadcasting the SSID. |
| 16:15.48 | Stork | fucking trolls |
| 16:16.04 | pipeline | Antixrict: I explained how to install the old version over the new version. Please read my previous comments. |
| 16:16.09 | Tenkawa | pipeline: thought about it though I figure it should be possible. don't you? |
| 16:16.21 | Stork | how do i format a disk into reiserfs? |
| 16:16.29 | pipeline | Tenkawa: Should be, but WPA is implemented in software. I would just want to leave WPAsupplicant bugs the hell alone :P |
| 16:16.34 | pipeline | Tenkawa: I am a lazy man :) |
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| 16:16.41 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
| 16:16.46 | GeorgeS069 | Stork: you will find that most of the regulars and OP's here will also suggest you do not use reiserFS |
| 16:17.05 | Stork | GeorgeS069, i don't understand why not.. ext3 is amazingly slow |
| 16:17.23 | Joint | damn |
| 16:17.27 | master_of_master | Stork: mkfs.reiserfs /dev/xxx |
| 16:17.32 | liable | Tenkawa: ap_scan = 1 |
| 16:17.37 | GeorgeS069 | hmmm....slow and stabe vs fast and corrupted.....decisions decisions..... |
| 16:17.43 | Joint | i wonder what the hell happends, why it takes so long to boot, |
| 16:17.45 | pipeline | GeorgeS069: Well, actually it's not any faster. |
| 16:17.48 | Stork | GeorgeS069, why corrupted? |
| 16:17.51 | Stork | pipeline, yes, it is. |
| 16:17.54 | zinx | last time i tried reiserfs, it was a factor of 10 slower than ext3 |
| 16:17.55 | pipeline | GeorgeS069: It only performs well in extremely artificial benchmarks, with very specific combinations of options. |
| 16:17.58 | pipeline | GeorgeS069: And it fragments like mad :\ |
| 16:18.02 | Tenkawa | liable: that only works if you are broadcasting |
| 16:18.04 | zinx | and allowed users to easily DoS the system |
| 16:18.06 | liable | Tenkawa: check wpasupp docs |
| 16:18.09 | Tenkawa | otherwise it doesnt seem to see it |
| 16:18.10 | liable | Tenkawa: no |
| 16:18.12 | GeorgeS069 | it gets corrupted dude....I've seen it...even on my raid5 arrays |
| 16:18.15 | Tenkawa | liable: I have.. the docs reak |
| 16:18.16 | liable | Tenkawa: i have hidden ssid |
| 16:18.21 | Stork | gay |
| 16:18.24 | liable | Tenkawa: you lose |
| 16:18.30 | Tenkawa | liable: ok.. let me try it again.. damn kernel just cored |
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| 16:18.45 | zamaliphe | zinx: how to check why some thing is crashing pleases ? |
| 16:18.51 | Tenkawa | reiser has always been unstable for me |
| 16:18.55 | Tenkawa | I'll stick with xfs |
| 16:18.56 | zinx | zamaliphe: i don't know anything about opera, sorry |
| 16:18.58 | GeorgeS069 | I almost got gang raped when I came in here asking about my raid5 reiserFS setup :) |
| 16:19.00 | pipeline | Gathond: I'm less concerned by the errors than the total lack of recovery tools. fsck.reiserfs is a nop, and the actual recovery tool is a modified grep ;_; |
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| 16:19.04 | zinx | zamaliphe: someone else here might |
| 16:19.17 | zamaliphe | how to check why some thing is crashing pleases ? |
| 16:19.21 | pipeline | Gathond: A fun experiment is using the recovery tool on a ReiserFS filesystem that contains a disk image of a ReiserFS filesystem :0 |
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| 16:19.40 | Gathond | pipeline, true, errors is what it is, provided there is some infrastructure to fix it |
| 16:19.58 | Stork | what's xfs? |
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| 16:20.09 | Tenkawa | liable: ok.. ap_scan=1.. what about scan_ssid and should I need to specify anything besides the ssid and psk? |
| 16:20.20 | Gathond | pipeline, well, knowing that exact cavecat makes it an avoidable issue:) |
| 16:20.22 | blondie | Stork: a filesystem |
| 16:20.29 | GeorgeS069 | zamaliphe : try checking your log files in /var/log |
| 16:20.34 | Stork | blondie, no, really? i mean where does it come with speed, size, etc |
| 16:20.41 | liable | Tenkawa: ap_sacn=1 works for m |
| 16:20.42 | pipeline | Gathond: You shoudln't need to worry about such stupid caveats. You can "grep" for your files yourself. Recovery tools should actually, you know, fix the filesystem :P |
| 16:20.43 | liable | e |
| 16:20.48 | Tenkawa | ok |
| 16:20.50 | blondie | Stork: well that IS what you asked :P |
| 16:20.55 | Tenkawa | lt me give that a hot |
| 16:20.57 | Tenkawa | er shot |
| 16:21.01 | liable | Tenkawa: sarge wpa or later? |
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| 16:21.14 | Stork | blondie, i never was any good at getting my point across |
| 16:21.20 | mha13 | what is the replacment for rc.sysinit in debian ? |
| 16:21.23 | Tenkawa | liable: technically ubuntu dapper |
| 16:21.29 | blondie | Stork: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 16:21.29 | Tenkawa | so fairly revent |
| 16:21.31 | Tenkawa | er recent |
| 16:21.34 | liable | Tenkawa: you lose again |
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| 16:22.13 | liable | Tenkawa: wrong channel, but it *should* work. ask #ubuntu |
| 16:22.25 | obscure | esr is an idiot |
| 16:22.31 | Tenkawa | comes back with no suitable AP found.. soon as I turn broadcast on it works fine |
| 16:22.33 | Tenkawa | how odd |
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| 16:23.06 | Belboz99 | Hey, I'm having trouble getting my nvidia driver working. I've installed the nvidia-kernel-module for my kernel, as well as all the dendancies, but when I reconfigure xserver-xorg it does not give the option for the nvidia driver, only the nv driver which does not have 3D acceleration, |
| 16:23.06 | Belboz99 | Any Ideas? |
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| 16:24.10 | Alam_Debian | Belboz99, you have to manuly edit xorg.cfg, i think |
| 16:24.37 | Stork | lol blondie |
| 16:24.57 | Belboz99 | Alam_Debian: I have tried editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and when I replace "nv" with "nvidia" the GUI will fail to start |
| 16:25.13 | mha13 | Belboz99 : what error? |
| 16:25.34 | Belboz99 | mha13, I believe it said something to the effect of module not found |
| 16:25.38 | Ironhand | is there a way to tell dpkg-buildpackage to only build specific target packages and thereby avoid the build-deps for those not being built? (specifically, I'm trying to build linphone-nox in stable through source packages from testing and want to avoid all the gnome stuff) |
| 16:25.53 | Alam_Debian | did you load the module up? |
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| 16:27.21 | mha13 | Belboz99: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log run to figure up .. |
| 16:27.51 | Antixrict | pipeline i cant install dpkg :( also problem that want perl 5.8.6 |
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| 16:28.40 | Belboz99 | Alam_Debian: what do you mean by "load the module up"? |
| 16:29.03 | Alam_Debian | 'modprobe nvidia' |
| 16:29.42 | Stork | Computers are like air conditioners. |
| 16:29.42 | Stork | They stop working when you open Windows. |
| 16:30.12 | Belboz99 | Module nvidia not found |
| 16:30.49 | Belboz99 | sorry, I'm running back and forth between this machine and the one I'm trying to fix :P |
| 16:31.28 | pipeline | Antixrict: You already have dpkg installed. |
| 16:31.33 | Antixrict | no |
| 16:32.07 | Antixrict | ok pipeline maybe you know how i can rpm do that perl 5.8.6 install, but 5.8.7 also work? |
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| 16:32.17 | Antixrict | rpm -i --force? |
| 16:32.23 | Belboz99 | I don't get it, if I install the nvidia-kernel-module for the same kernel that I'm using, why is the module not found? |
| 16:32.24 | cat | okay i reinstall debian on my laptop that sucks, |
| 16:32.31 | cat | i couldn't boot up |
| 16:33.04 | cat | Antixrict: why rpm this is debian it doesn't used rpm |
| 16:33.09 | Belboz99 | does it make any difference if when I first installed Debian on this system it had an ATI card? |
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| 16:34.33 | nbt | hi i've a problem i can play mp3 and other audio sources well but i can't play MIDI help me pls ? |
| 16:34.34 | Alam_Debian | Belboz99, type 'depmod -a' and try agian |
| 16:34.39 | airboy | hi |
| 16:34.50 | cat | !tell nbt about midi |
| 16:34.52 | cat | airboy: ask |
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| 16:35.12 | KaiSVK | please how do I set up Debian to listen to remote CUPS server ? |
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| 16:35.50 | Belboz99 | Alam_Debian: Module nvidia not found |
| 16:35.56 | nbt | cat i mean the program (tried kmidi) reads and look like playing but i hear no sound |
| 16:36.52 | GeorgeS069 | nbt: most sound cards have a seperate volume for midi...perhaps it's muted |
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| 16:37.27 | pipeline | Antixrict: WTF, if you're not using debian, why are you asking in #debian? |
| 16:37.31 | airboy | i install apache2 |
| 16:37.47 | airboy | but it dosen't install /etc/apache2/* files |
| 16:37.51 | nbt | my s.c. is a sound blaster live 24 |
| 16:37.56 | Antixrict | pipeline apt-get it's debian utility |
| 16:38.03 | airboy | is there a way to reinstall completly with files |
| 16:38.04 | airboy | ? |
| 16:38.14 | Antixrict | ok i fix my problem actualy :) |
| 16:38.14 | pipeline | Antixrict: But if you're not using it on debian, we can't help you. Go elsewhere. |
| 16:38.21 | GeorgeS069 | nbt: start up Kmixer and check your volume settings |
| 16:38.31 | nbt | are all up |
| 16:38.43 | |reezeh| | ttfn |
| 16:39.33 | airboy | even i try sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 |
| 16:39.41 | airboy | and reinstall apt-get install apache2 |
| 16:39.44 | airboy | no luck |
| 16:39.54 | airboy | its install apache2 but no default config files |
| 16:39.55 | cat | airboy: do apt-cache search apache2 |
| 16:40.24 | airboy | yes its print file names? |
| 16:40.38 | GeorgeS069 | nbt : I don't know what else to tell you...make sure nothing is muted |
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| 16:40.50 | nbt | i'm sure it's not mmuted |
| 16:40.55 | liable | thats a nice /part msg.. |
| 16:40.58 | nbt | i guess there's asme driver problem |
| 16:41.01 | nbt | or whatsoever |
| 16:41.02 | nbt | ;( |
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| 16:43.22 | Belboz99 | Alam_Debian: any ideas? |
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| 16:44.21 | cat | airboy: do apt-cache search apache2 |
| 16:44.24 | cat | ... |
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| 16:44.43 | cat | ,l |
| 16:44.55 | airboy | yes i see files |
| 16:45.00 | airboy | next cat? |
| 16:45.00 | nbt | i installed timidity but running says can't find config file ;( |
| 16:45.06 | corona | Hi there i am running debian sarge with gnome 2.8 can someone please guide me to a document that helps upgrade to gnome 2.14? |
| 16:45.57 | GeorgeS069 | nbt : I don't play midi's so I an't be much more help but,I'd say the timidity error would be a good place to start:) |
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| 16:47.57 | nbt | it ays missing freepats-cfg |
| 16:48.24 | GeorgeS069 | nbt : perhaps try a dpkg-reconfigure timidity |
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| 16:48.41 | polishkoop | I'm running debian sarge, kernel 2.6 and using a linksys wmp54gs wireless adapter. Can anyone help me out and get this thing working on my system? I've been to tons of tutorials and I honestly am just getting more confused. |
| 16:48.49 | KaiSVK | what does it mean waiting for root filesystem |
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| 16:50.38 | pollywog | liable: did you fix the alsa problem? |
| 16:50.59 | liable | pollywog: no |
| 16:51.14 | pollywog | liable: if you do lsmod do you see oss-emu? |
| 16:51.35 | pollywog | snd_seq_oss |
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| 16:52.00 | pollywog | snd_pcm_oss |
| 16:52.07 | pollywog | it's that one |
| 16:53.02 | liable | yeah, i have that loaded |
| 16:53.11 | pollywog | but not /dev/dsp? |
| 16:53.23 | pollywog | you don't have dsp? |
| 16:53.40 | dogmeat | good morning folks |
| 16:54.04 | liable | pollywog: i dont have /dev/dsp2 when i load the saa7134 module |
| 16:54.11 | pollywog | ahhh |
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| 16:54.46 | liable | pollywog: there is an alsa module for it now, i just have to find out how the hell to get it work |
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| 16:55.09 | nbt | ok in timidity midi->wav i can listen em mgood |
| 16:55.24 | pollywog | liable you might take a look at http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/saa7134.html |
| 16:55.25 | liable | there used to be a sox hack, but now it seems theres an asound hack or some shit |
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| 16:56.16 | AndyMcGee | Greetings to all you nodes... |
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| 16:56.52 | liable | pollywog: thanks |
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| 16:59.04 | pollywog | also http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134 even though it is written for gentoo |
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| 17:13.03 | exalted | Hi. From sometime now i have lost my hardware acceleration for i810. Do you have any ideas, or related links in mind? Thank you. |
| 17:13.16 | jabr_ | server1 exportfs -v ==> /etc 192.168.*(rw,wdelay,insecure,no_root_squash)......client fstab ==> server1:/etc /mnt/server1/etc nfs rw 0 0......username/pass identical on both machines......when running mount -a (rather than rebooting) i get server:/etc failed, reason given by server: Permission denied......thoughts? |
| 17:13.20 | _xavier | it's broken in Xorg 7 |
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| 17:13.45 | exalted | _xavier, was that for me? |
| 17:13.46 | _xavier | exalted: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7#head-5bc0296170d3ffbabad940201aba6aa40c603f17 |
| 17:13.50 | _xavier | yes |
| 17:13.54 | _xavier | I have the same problem |
| 17:14.04 | exalted | _xavier, oh, thank you. I'm gonna read it.. |
| 17:15.09 | exalted | _xavier, What's that supposed to mean? "Upgrading the mesa stuff to the version is experimental will also work." |
| 17:15.32 | _xavier | you can download a .so from freedesktop.org that works |
| 17:15.42 | _xavier | that's what I did |
| 17:15.45 | exalted | _xavier, How you did solve the problem? |
| 17:15.48 | exalted | Oh... |
| 17:16.02 | _xavier | http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/i915-20060403-linux.i386.tar.bz2 |
| 17:16.17 | exalted | _xavier, this is for i915... |
| 17:16.27 | _xavier | there is the same for i810 |
| 17:16.38 | _xavier | http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/i810-20060403-linux.i386.tar.bz2 |
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| 17:17.03 | _xavier | you only need i810_dri.so |
| 17:17.09 | exalted | _xavier, i'm on it. |
| 17:17.10 | _xavier | put it in /usr/lib/dri |
| 17:17.12 | blondie | why would eth0 become eth1 after a reboot? |
| 17:17.25 | _xavier | blondie: because your driver was loaded second |
| 17:17.33 | exalted | _xavier, when this problem will be solved on repos, what should i do? |
| 17:17.41 | exalted | since this is a manual fix... |
| 17:17.56 | polishkoop | how can I permanently change the PATH variable? |
| 17:17.57 | blondie | _xavier: how can I disable eth0 (so it doesn't load the driver)? |
| 17:18.03 | _xavier | exalted: when you will upgrade to a working version, it will overite your .so file |
| 17:18.21 | exalted | _xavier, oh, that's pretty cool. Thank you. |
| 17:18.30 | blondie | what is eth0 shouldn't be detected at all |
| 17:18.35 | _xavier | blondie: put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 17:18.54 | _xavier | maybe it's a firefire |
| 17:19.17 | _xavier | polishkoop: change it in your ~/.bashrc |
| 17:19.37 | _xavier | blondie: check lsmod and see if you have eth1394 loaded |
| 17:19.50 | blondie | I do |
| 17:20.15 | _xavier | blondie: so just add a line "eth1394in the blacklist file |
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| 17:20.23 | _xavier | blondie: so just add a line "eth1394" in the blacklist file |
| 17:20.43 | blondie | _xavier: but what if I wanted them both, but to stay how they are and not swap? |
| 17:20.43 | exalted | << Having a re-start for Xorg, and i'll be back to give report. |
| 17:20.44 | _xavier | blondie: blacklist eth1394 |
| 17:21.00 | blondie | _xavier: but what if I want to use it? |
| 17:21.03 | _xavier | blondie: if you want both, put your ethernet driver in /etc/modules |
| 17:21.22 | _xavier | blondie: so that it loads first |
| 17:21.29 | blondie | _xavier: hm ok |
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| 17:22.13 | _xavier | blondie: or you can try to create a udev rule to rename your interfaces |
| 17:22.23 | exalted | _xavier, doesn't seems to work; any GL based screensaver sux all the CPU :S |
| 17:22.28 | polishkoop | _xavier I can't figure out how to do it. I looked in quite a few .bashrc files and i can't find PATH in them. |
| 17:22.35 | blondie | _xavier: but eth0/1 aren't devices in /dev |
| 17:22.48 | _xavier | exalted: it's a snapshot... maybe it's not working... sorry |
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| 17:23.13 | exalted | _xavier, there was also a *_drv.so file, maybe i should overwrite that one too? |
| 17:23.22 | _xavier | polishkoop: do a export PATH="mypath" in your .bashrc |
| 17:23.39 | blondie | _xavier: putting the network card driver in /etc/modules didn't make it load first |
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| 17:24.20 | _xavier | blondie: even if eth0 and eth1 aren't in /dev, you can still create a udev rule to rename them |
| 17:24.25 | j-bit | blondie: iirc, ifaces are one of the few devices that linux doesn't see as a file, hence its not in /dev. Not sure that helps... |
| 17:24.33 | _xavier | blondie: you can also check ifrename |
| 17:24.54 | _xavier | blondie: apt-get install ifrename |
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| 17:25.14 | _xavier | exalted: you can try, I don't know... |
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| 17:25.24 | exalted | _xavier, Allright, thank you anyway! |
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| 17:26.20 | _xavier | Does anybody knows what to do with a "irq 17: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)" error when I insert a PCMCIA IDE adapter |
| 17:27.03 | PZico | problem: how to mount ntfs drive if it's on large hd using manufacturers special driver that windows can identify it? mount says wrong fs type, but still partition was correctly seen during install as ntfs |
| 17:27.33 | pipeline | blondie: because hotplug is braindamaged shit |
| 17:27.44 | _xavier | blondie: the driver is hotplugable |
| 17:28.45 | blondie | another thing, I have to type "dmesg -n1" if I use the console (every time) -- how do you set that permanently? |
| 17:28.57 | blondie | (it keeps spewing crap about my wireless keyboard) |
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| 17:32.10 | _xavier | exalted: try apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri -t experimental |
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| 17:32.22 | exalted | _xavier, just a sec. please |
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| 17:32.55 | compDo | how can I include modules within my Etch system permanently? |
| 17:33.10 | exalted | _xavier, i should restart X now, i'll be back... |
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| 17:33.15 | sepski | compDo, kernel modules ? add their names in /etc/modules |
| 17:33.55 | PZico | what would be a good program to list all partition table and accessibility on hda ? |
| 17:34.14 | _xavier | cat /proc/partitions |
| 17:34.33 | compDo | sepski, yes, kernel modules. Do I have to run any program after modifying /etc/modules? |
| 17:34.53 | sepski | compDo, no, they will be loaded on boot |
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| 17:35.10 | compDo | sepski, thank you |
| 17:35.20 | PZico | _xavier: but it doesn't list which one is ntfs or identified as such and which one is hda1 2 3.. or so |
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| 17:35.41 | _xavier | PZico: you can use parted |
| 17:35.44 | exalted | _xavier, I've never used experimental repo. before; will i be able to downgrade that package in any case later? |
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| 17:36.06 | _xavier | exalted: yes you should be able to |
| 17:36.11 | exalted | _xavier, okay.. |
| 17:36.13 | nbt | hi, should cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sequencer make noise ? |
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| 17:36.54 | _xavier | nbt: it doesn't on my computer |
| 17:37.25 | _xavier | nbt: but cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp do |
| 17:37.42 | nbt | i need to test midi |
| 17:37.49 | nbt | normal audio workss fine ;( |
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| 17:38.33 | nbt | 'cause i'm unable to listen midi's except with timidity |
| 17:38.52 | polishkoop | _xavier: it still isn't working |
| 17:38.55 | nbt | whcih converts 'em at runtime but it lacks many instruments so i need direct midi processing |
| 17:38.55 | nbt | ;) |
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| 17:39.30 | exalted | _xavier, should i have to add experimental to my sources.list before? |
| 17:39.34 | _xavier | nbt: sorry I never successfully played a midi file |
| 17:39.41 | PZico | thanks xavier, parted can show my ntfs partition.. now I only need to get it mounted |
| 17:39.42 | _xavier | exalted: yes |
| 17:39.47 | exalted | _xavier, okay. |
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| 17:40.03 | _xavier | PZico: try the userspace ntfsmount |
| 17:40.23 | vin` | after replacing the motherboard in my laptop, the machine froze 3 times in the past couple of hours, could this be software related? (ie. would a re-install make a difference) |
| 17:40.34 | _xavier | vin |
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| 17:40.43 | _xavier | vin`: probably not |
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| 17:40.47 | PZico | userspace ntfsmount? sorry i don't know that :( |
| 17:40.57 | _xavier | PZico: yes, it uses FUSE |
| 17:41.39 | _xavier | PZico: you need kernel >= 2.6.14 |
| 17:41.52 | vin` | _xavier: tried winbloze for a while, didn't freeze, can't stand running it longer to test. |
| 17:42.03 | PZico | so i should apt-get ntfsprogs ? |
| 17:42.09 | _xavier | vin`: you can try a liveCD |
| 17:42.16 | _xavier | PZico: yes |
| 17:42.22 | tarzeau | abrotman: hi |
| 17:42.33 | exalted | _xavier, It does seems to be the same with the unstable repo. |
| 17:42.43 | _xavier | PZico: and fuse-utils |
| 17:42.48 | PZico | oki, thanks |
| 17:42.51 | tarzeau | the debian mailing lists are great dating place: Bug#203098: looking for someone? |
| 17:43.06 | _xavier | exalted: no, it's 6.5 vs 6.2 |
| 17:43.16 | _xavier | exalted: no, it's 6.5 vs *6.4.2 |
| 17:43.24 | dvs | tarzeau: heh |
| 17:43.28 | exalted | _xavier, It results to be installed to me with 6.5 already... |
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| 17:44.06 | _xavier | exalted: well you already have experimental I guess... |
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| 17:44.18 | PZico | now I got ntfsprogs and fuse-utils installed |
| 17:44.23 | exalted | _xavier, no i was using unstable repo. till 10 minutes now. |
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| 17:44.42 | _xavier | exlated: according to this : http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&keywords=libgl1-mesa-dri&sourceid=mozilla-search 6.5 is experimental |
| 17:45.06 | _xavier | PZico: modprobe fuse |
| 17:45.13 | exalted | _xavier, maybe i should completely remove unstable repos from sources.list? |
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| 17:45.46 | PZico | "can't locate module fuse" |
| 17:45.46 | PZico | hmm |
| 17:45.53 | _xavier | PZico: what kernel are you using |
| 17:46.11 | _xavier | exalted: it shouldn't matter |
| 17:46.13 | PZico | I installed debian testing just today |
| 17:46.21 | PZico | isn't it latest by default? |
| 17:46.23 | dvs | !beer PZico |
| 17:46.27 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 17:46.29 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 17:46.42 | _xavier | PZico: do a uname -a |
| 17:46.56 | PZico | damn :( |
| 17:47.11 | polishkoop | _xavier: I added export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_07/bin to my ~/.bashrc and it's not working |
| 17:47.15 | PZico | ok, i have so work to do with kernel.. bbl |
| 17:47.31 | _xavier | PZico: if you have kernel < 2.6.14, you need to install fuse-source and m-a a-i fuse |
| 17:47.43 | exalted | _xavier, now i have only experimental in my sources.list, updated repos., but i cannot upgrade libgl1-mesa-dri package, because it's the same version. |
| 17:47.49 | exalted | that i've already installed. |
| 17:47.51 | _xavier | polishkoop: did you restart bash |
| 17:48.22 | _xavier | exalted: and even after restarting X it doesn't work? What card are you using? |
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| 17:48.39 | polishkoop | _xavier *sigh... that worked. I've been working in thos for how long? 10 minutes? All i had to do was restart. Thanks |
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| 17:48.54 | Siriuskr | Anyone know of a way or of a program for linux that is great for wireless, the one that comes with ubuntu when it gets disconnected doesnt reconnect on its own |
| 17:48.59 | exalted | _xavier, " VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" |
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| 17:49.20 | dvs | i810? |
| 17:49.27 | exalted | yes it is. |
| 17:49.27 | _xavier | exalted: I guess we will have to wait for the next release |
| 17:49.49 | exalted | okay _xavier, thank you for your efforts. |
| 17:49.49 | _xavier | exalted: or maybe you can try reinstalling xorg 6.9 |
| 17:49.59 | exalted | _xavier, hmm... |
| 17:50.09 | exalted | i've reconfigured it before, but not re-installed |
| 17:50.19 | _xavier | exalted: maybe it's no longer possible tho |
| 17:50.30 | exalted | _xavier, what's it? |
| 17:51.04 | GeorgeS069 | Siriuskr : you might wanna ask in #ubuntu they might know a little about Ubuntu:) |
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| 17:51.26 | dvs | GeorgeS069: I wouldn't be too sure.\ |
| 17:51.39 | GeorgeS069 | I said "might" :) |
| 17:51.43 | Siriuskr | George i may be running ubuntu but im looking for a linux prog and i already asked in there and no help |
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| 17:54.19 | GeorgeS069 | Siriuskr : maybe kwirelessmonitor |
| 17:54.37 | exalted | _xavier, any ideas when this thing might be resolved for at least unstable? |
| 17:54.45 | Siriuskr | George does that come with KDE ? |
| 17:55.08 | liable | Siriuskr: the base tools are the same for all distros, the guis shits vary *greatly* if they dont answer in #ubuntu, then dont ask here |
| 17:55.16 | GeorgeS069 | Siriuskr : yup |
| 17:55.24 | GeorgeS069 | and maybe waproamd |
| 17:55.34 | Siriuskr | okay thanks |
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| 17:57.06 | liable | !kill brazil |
| 17:57.12 | GeorgeS069 | LOL |
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| 17:57.48 | GeorgeS069 | liable: are you watching on a delay? |
| 17:58.02 | liable | GeorgeS069: no, that was delayed anger :P |
| 17:58.09 | GeorgeS069 | ahhh...ok :) |
| 17:58.40 | _xavier | exalted: sorry no I am not realy involved in Debian or Xorg |
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| 17:58.48 | liable | i guess i should sleep now |
| 17:58.49 | exalted | _xavier, Allright. |
| 17:58.51 | yassine | hi folks |
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| 17:59.22 | liable | yassine: hi |
| 17:59.27 | GeorgeS069 | hi |
| 18:00.03 | yassine | after log in everything remains frosen i only can move the mouse but everything else is inactive i have published my logs here : http://84.44.153.195/Xorg.0.log i hope you guys can help me out of this |
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| 18:00.49 | liable | jetscreamer: ping |
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| 18:03.29 | exalted | _xavier, it's ok now; simply i wasn't able to install from experimental. I did it now, and everything works just fine. Thank you again. |
| 18:03.37 | tarzeau | what's wrong when a window gets stuck behind the others? |
| 18:03.43 | tarzeau | how can i get my window to the front? |
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| 18:04.05 | edgarin | Hi what is this_ |
| 18:04.06 | edgarin | ? |
| 18:04.07 | edgarin | NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 18:05.19 | seb- | anyone put linux on a linksys AP? i guess you must find *firmware* of a linux distro? |
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| 18:06.39 | phogg | seb-: I believe there is some kind of howto on that. |
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| 18:06.48 | GeorgeS069 | seb- : what sort of AP is it??there are several for the wrt54g and gs |
| 18:07.01 | seb- | GeorgeS069: WRT54GL |
| 18:07.15 | seb- | basically WRT54G |
| 18:07.20 | GeorgeS069 | I believe sveasoft.com has firmware for that model |
| 18:07.28 | seb- | ah, thanks |
| 18:07.32 | GeorgeS069 | also openWRT |
| 18:07.36 | GeorgeS069 | ddwrt |
| 18:07.45 | murph1083 | I got a question..im trying to install debian on my 1.6GHz P4...I need to pick a kernel...should i get 2.6-686, 2.6-686-smp or 2.6-386? |
| 18:08.00 | liable | yeah, now i must get this silly tvcard to work for the next one :) |
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| 18:08.16 | liable | wrong channel.. |
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| 18:08.44 | GeorgeS069 | liable: did you hear about the new wireless device for watching video?it's called a Television :P |
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| 18:09.19 | liable | GeorgeS069: blow me, theres a reason for it :P |
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| 18:09.32 | GeorgeS069 | I know...your tv sux |
| 18:09.35 | Bitz | hi, is there a way to change the file descriptors size to unlimit with sysctl? |
| 18:09.41 | liable | yes.. :( |
| 18:09.45 | phogg | GeorgeS069: I'll bet it requires proprietary drivers |
| 18:10.23 | GeorgeS069 | mine required a sattelite dish for updates :) |
| 18:10.55 | liable | meh |
| 18:11.08 | GeorgeS069 | 700 channels of garbage :) |
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| 18:11.49 | phogg | GeorgeS069: the internet has that beat by a factor of a million or so |
| 18:12.03 | freezombie | where can I set what characters result from which compose sequences ? (SID X.Org 7.0.22) /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose is not being fully followed. (example: <Multi_key> <b> <u> produces no Å.) |
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| 18:12.48 | sepski | seb-, iv tried all those firmwares and i liek openwrt the most. |
| 18:13.29 | GeorgeS069 | sepski: what didn't you like about the others? |
| 18:13.55 | sepski | sveasoft is nonfree. and dd-wrt is just to much like linksys and to little like linux. |
| 18:14.24 | sepski | and only in openwrt did i have the flexibility to do what i wanted in a sensible way |
| 18:14.30 | dvs | sepski: even though Linksys uses Linux in its routers |
| 18:14.40 | GeorgeS069 | dvs: not anymore |
| 18:14.54 | sepski | in it's gl version they still do |
| 18:14.57 | dvs | GeorgeS069: WRT54GL |
| 18:15.02 | dvs | note the L |
| 18:15.05 | GeorgeS069 | yeah....for extra money |
| 18:15.10 | sepski | GeorgeS069, true |
| 18:15.35 | sepski | GeorgeS069, still worth it tho :) |
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| 18:15.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: ping |
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| 18:16.01 | sepski | dvs you can't ssh into a regular linksys firmware and install openvpn. :) |
| 18:16.01 | GeorgeS069 | I just buy "bricked" old wrt54gs's and fix em up :) |
| 18:16.18 | GeorgeS069 | got one for $10 |
| 18:16.25 | dvs | "bricked" meaning not working? |
| 18:16.39 | GeorgeS069 | yes...firmware was all messed up...bad flash |
| 18:16.56 | dvs | GeorgeS069: and they didn't know how to fix it? |
| 18:17.01 | GeorgeS069 | yup |
| 18:17.19 | dvs | heh |
| 18:17.22 | GeorgeS069 | ask a normal windoze user about tftp and thier eyes glaze over :) |
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| 18:18.15 | sepski | GeorgeS069, ohh generalizing.... i like it ! :) |
| 18:18.17 | liran_ | i dont know whats going on with this system's clock |
| 18:18.27 | liran_ | i set it from linux - doesnt help, i set it from the bios- doesnt help. |
| 18:18.47 | yassine | hi again |
| 18:18.49 | kepht | i'm getting font display problems on a console, can anyone help?? (ie. ‘gctext’ ’ ) |
| 18:18.51 | GeorgeS069 | liran_ : your time zone setting may be screwed up |
| 18:19.08 | liran_ | in bios or linux? |
| 18:19.11 | GeorgeS069 | linux |
| 18:19.12 | yassine | this is the .xsession-errors i found in the homedire of the user that can not start the x : http://pastebin.ca/66887 |
| 18:19.21 | liran_ | GeorgeS069: what i thought - well they're fine. |
| 18:19.29 | larsdbj | anyone interested in a Zabbix server/agent howto for debian 3.1 :)? |
| 18:19.35 | sepski | liran_, if the clock is correct on the minutes but wrong on an exact amount of houers it's usualy timezone error |
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| 18:21.01 | acurax | How do i mount my ntfs partition/ |
| 18:21.15 | GeorgeS069 | liran_ : you could try installing ntp and ntpdate and see if they set it correctly |
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| 18:22.54 | cahoot | liran_: you'll get only guessbased adviced as long as you don't describe the symtom |
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| 18:24.07 | acurax | Ugh.. How do i mount my NTFS partitions? |
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| 18:24.49 | cahoot | acurax: first hit on google: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1886.html |
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| 18:25.30 | blondie | acurax: mount /dev/blah /mnt/blah |
| 18:25.31 | cahoot | acurax: Results 1 - 10 of about 414,000 for How do i mount my NTFS partition. |
| 18:25.33 | blondie | or whatever |
| 18:25.58 | blondie | (it's read only) |
| 18:26.34 | USmarine | cahoot, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdXN mounthere/ |
| 18:26.49 | USmarine | you cant write on it |
| 18:27.05 | cahoot | USmarine: thank you but not my problem |
| 18:27.18 | GeorgeS069 | :) |
| 18:27.19 | dvs | USmarine: it's acurax |
| 18:27.30 | USmarine | "How do i mount my NTFS partition." |
| 18:27.36 | USmarine | its you who wrote it |
| 18:27.40 | blondie | USmarine: wrong |
| 18:27.41 | USmarine | or am i wrong? |
| 18:27.45 | blondie | USmarine: do pay attention |
| 18:27.48 | blondie | 19:24:07 < acurax> Ugh.. How do i mount my NTFS partitions? |
| 18:27.53 | GeorgeS069 | [14:23] <acurax> Ugh.. How do i mount my NTFS partitions? |
| 18:27.56 | dvs | USmarine: Nope, it's acurax |
| 18:28.12 | blondie | aren't marines meant to be observant and stuff? |
| 18:28.17 | blondie | you'd get yourself killed |
| 18:28.17 | USmarine | [19:26] * Now talking on #debian |
| 18:28.36 | dvs | blondie: maybe, but they're also really tough. ;-) |
| 18:28.48 | blondie | USmarine: also, your clock is two minutes fast. |
| 18:28.52 | blondie | :P |
| 18:29.02 | cahoot | blondie: might have been a preemptive strike |
| 18:29.06 | blondie | haha |
| 18:29.10 | GeorgeS069 | LOL |
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| 18:29.44 | dbe | how can I identify my ram memory (model/vendor etc)? |
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| 18:30.38 | Joint | hey how can i start my wireless card so i can used the internet |
| 18:30.44 | cahoot | dbe: the eeprom module gives some info as to type of mem (i2c section) |
| 18:30.49 | Joint | on the laptop i already did the update, and i want to used my wireless card |
| 18:30.49 | USmarine | dbe, check the invoice you got when you bought it |
| 18:31.00 | blondie | dbe: look at the stickers |
| 18:31.10 | blondie | that's the only way |
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| 18:31.53 | dbe | blondie, sure? Is there some software that use hardware detection |
| 18:31.57 | Joint | the card is etho1 if im not mistaking |
| 18:32.12 | GeorgeS069 | cpuZ will do it in windows |
| 18:32.12 | blondie | dbe: i very much doubt6 it |
| 18:32.34 | Joint | can someone help me please |
| 18:32.47 | cahoot | dbe: like this CMX512-3200C2 |
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| 18:33.16 | dbe | cahoot, eeprom didn't exist and not on apt either, how should I use it? |
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| 18:34.21 | Chameleon22 | can somebody tell me (link perhaps) how to read status information returned by dpkg --list, the rc, ii, pi, ... that stuff |
| 18:34.52 | dbe | cahoot, ? |
| 18:34.59 | cahoot | dbe: it's one of the hw monitoring things/possibilities in the i2c section in the kernel config - don't know if any debian kernel cares to include it |
| 18:35.19 | dbe | cahoot, ok, thank you |
| 18:35.30 | jair | guys, I was doing a configuration of apache 2 also ispconfig and the certificate I create was corrupted or invalid. |
| 18:35.42 | jair | it is a way I can create it again it may fix the problem? |
| 18:36.04 | dbe | cahoot, so it's just to execute "eeprom" if it is included? |
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| 18:36.52 | cahoot | dbe: no one modprobes eeprom - than the info is accessible via /sys/bus/i2c (at least here) |
| 18:37.31 | cahoot | dbe: lm-sensors used to show the values, I somehow manahed to mess up the config |
| 18:38.29 | dbe | cahoot, ok |
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| 18:42.44 | zam-aliphe | how to install java to firefox |
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| 18:46.34 | tarzeau | zam-aliphe: using java-package |
| 18:47.53 | zam-aliphe | tarzeau: yes i gess |
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| 18:50.13 | fek | hi! |
| 18:50.19 | fek | does anybody know, what's getting wrong here? |
| 18:50.20 | fek | http://paste.debian.net/7737 |
| 18:50.37 | fek | i want to install qmail with the documentation of qmailrocks.org on debian/testing |
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| 18:51.04 | acurax | ugh how do i install gstreamer |
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| 18:55.46 | Firezip | Hello |
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| 19:00.18 | stephon | I'm having trouble setting up ndiswrapper I have it installed but i cant get the drivers to work with device after driver is added ifconfig eth1 link UNSPEC ? |
| 19:00.30 | stephon | any suggestions |
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| 19:01.51 | blondie | why doesn't the man page for "pwd" have the -L or -P options documented? |
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| 19:03.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: eh? |
| 19:04.05 | tonsofpcs | morning |
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| 19:05.14 | iLLf8d | good afternoon all! |
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| 19:06.36 | solemnwarning | I found a conflict in python2.3-subversion |
| 19:06.47 | liran_ | damn it |
| 19:06.54 | liran_ | i have an unreal server but no players lol |
| 19:06.57 | solemnwarning | python2.3-subversion only works with svn v1.2.0 or above |
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| 19:07.08 | solemnwarning | But apt only has svn v1.1.4 |
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| 19:07.43 | iLLf8d | dEB14N_4_LIF3, wow thats quite a commitment there |
| 19:08.22 | dvs | iLLf8d: and you're not? leave! ;-) |
| 19:08.34 | Siriuskr | Does anyone know of a good wireless program i need something that auto reconnects after a disconnect, or at least checks to see if its connected every once in a while ?????????? |
| 19:09.02 | fek | man bash :P |
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| 19:09.12 | dEB14N_4_LIF3 | LOL UR TOTAL N00b. RTFM u f4g. go kill ur self. |
| 19:09.26 | iLLf8d | dvs, oh go --purge yourself =P |
| 19:09.33 | dEB14N_4_LIF3 | see, it works. |
| 19:09.38 | exobyte | can I combine modem commands so I have something like atz+vcid=1 |
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| 19:09.42 | dvs | o_O |
| 19:09.58 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 19:10.04 | streuner | debian: verschwinde! |
| 19:10.10 | streuner | dEB14N_4_LIF3: verschwinde! |
| 19:10.15 | iLLf8d | alindeman, whatya see? |
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| 19:10.20 | dvs | exobyte: usually not with ATZ |
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| 19:10.28 | iLLf8d | alindeman, I try not to look =p |
| 19:11.39 | dvs | !nickometer dEB14N_R_LIF3 |
| 19:11.41 | dpkg | 'dEB14N_R_LIF3' is 99.860% lame, dvs |
| 19:12.33 | exobyte | dvs: I figured atz might be special |
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| 19:13.02 | exobyte | !nickometer exobyte |
| 19:13.04 | dpkg | 'exobyte' is 0.000% lame, exobyte |
| 19:13.08 | iLLf8d | heh |
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| 19:13.33 | abrotman | it counts everything except alphabetic characters |
| 19:13.33 | n0dez | !nickometer n0dez |
| 19:13.35 | dpkg | 'n0dez' is 22.000% lame, n0dez |
| 19:13.44 | taty | Hi people |
| 19:13.50 | iLLf8d | lo taty |
| 19:13.52 | dvs | AciD: good move! ;-) |
| 19:14.48 | iLLf8d | AciD, conformist d4wg! |
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| 19:15.02 | dvs | !nickometer iLLf8d |
| 19:15.04 | dpkg | 'iLLf8d' is 19.000% lame, dvs |
| 19:15.17 | dvs | iLLf8d: conform! |
| 19:15.22 | iLLf8d | yeah I could agree with that completely |
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| 19:15.31 | iLLf8d | I need 20% lameness in my life |
| 19:15.44 | jair | guys I am having a weird error and I do not what it is? I am running ISPconfig on Debian sarge 3.1 |
| 19:15.47 | dvs | iLLf8d: it's called "Monday" |
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| 19:15.51 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 19:16.11 | jair | I did install the certificate for the email server apache server and ISPconfig |
| 19:16.36 | jair | but I get an "error -8182" the certificate is corrupt or can not be verified |
| 19:16.49 | iLLf8d | you do know its the 20% lame ones who are sighting in and cleaning their rifles |
| 19:16.58 | iLLf8d | muwahaha |
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| 19:20.26 | iLLf8d | anyone know if osx2x is a knockoff of some opensource app or if theres a linux xwin equiv? |
| 19:21.27 | abrotman | iLLf8d: ask #macosx? |
| 19:21.34 | abrotman | does it even run on debian ? |
| 19:21.43 | iLLf8d | actually I'm looking for the deb equiv not the osx equiv |
| 19:21.52 | abrotman | URL? |
| 19:22.04 | iLLf8d | it letsya mouse off the sides and swap machines to the next vnc machine |
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| 19:22.12 | abrotman | !synergy |
| 19:22.13 | dpkg | i guess synergy is Gemma, or a KM program (think KVM without any video), see http://synergy2.sourceforge.net |
| 19:22.18 | iLLf8d | thanks |
| 19:22.27 | abrotman | at least .. i think that's what you're asking |
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| 19:22.58 | iLLf8d | yeah I think thats it |
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| 19:23.21 | iLLf8d | Redirecting the mouse and keyboard is as simple as moving the mouse off the edge of your screen. <- yeah |
| 19:23.50 | minerale | when creating ssh forwarding tunnels, it's possible to enable the -g options to allow outside access to that tunnel, is it possible to create two tunnels at the same time and only allow outside accss on one of them? |
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| 19:24.32 | iLLf8d | minerale, I don't see why not when you'd leave the -g outta the one processes creation (/me is guessing) |
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| 19:25.10 | obscuresoul | hi |
| 19:25.54 | obscuresoul | how can i find the mac address of my usb device? |
| 19:25.55 | minerale | iLLf8d: well, I'd like to ssh and create two tunnels for two ports -- i'd like forwarding for only one of them |
| 19:26.11 | EvilSporkMan | I have 4 partitions on my primary hard drive: /, swap, /opt, and /home (in that order). I would like to enlarge /, shrink swap, shrink /opt, and put a windows partition in the resulting room. I have enough free space on my second hard drive to hold the contents of / and /opt. Can I accomplish this by just tarring everything up and putting it on the second hard drive, repartitioning, putting the contents of / and /opt back, and fixi |
| 19:26.11 | EvilSporkMan | ng /etc/fstab, or will somebody complain? |
| 19:26.12 | dvs | obscuresoul: is it a network device? |
| 19:26.41 | obscuresoul | dvs yes |
| 19:27.05 | dvs | obscuresoul: and there's a kernel module for it that works? |
| 19:27.05 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i'll file a notice with the student union. |
| 19:27.21 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: why, cruelty to large numbers? |
| 19:27.32 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i'm going to complain :) |
| 19:27.41 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: what would you suggest, then? |
| 19:27.58 | obscuresoul | dvs, what are you talking about? i'm using the ndiswrapper module... |
| 19:28.01 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i was joking |
| 19:28.13 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: so it should be fine, then? |
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| 19:28.25 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: no .. it'll probably fail .. but it's a good idea :) |
| 19:28.32 | dvs | obscuresoul: ok. I'd try ifconfig -a to see if it's there |
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| 19:28.46 | EvilSporkMan | what's wrong with that idea, and what should i do instead? |
| 19:28.49 | bluefox83 | ok, i hooked a second computer into my eth1 card, how do i set it up ? |
| 19:29.24 | maikol | i just did a fresh deb install and now when i try to install the wireless-tools package it keeps asking to remove my running kernel image |
| 19:29.25 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: i said it's a good idea .. but just seems like something weird will happen and all your data will go poof! :) |
| 19:29.32 | obscuresoul | dvs thank you :) |
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| 19:29.36 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: you probably don't have a real alternative .. so get tar'ing |
| 19:29.57 | dvs | bluefox83: set what up? |
| 19:30.18 | bluefox83 | dvs, set my eth1 card up so that the computer i hooked to it can use the net |
| 19:30.45 | dvs | bluefox83: it depends how you're hooked up to the internet. |
| 19:31.30 | bluefox83 | dvs, eth0 is connected to cable modem, eth1 is connected to second computer |
| 19:31.49 | EvilSporkMan | oh, and i can just run grub-install to show the windows bootload who's boss after all that, right? |
| 19:32.28 | dvs | bluefox83: so you need IP forwarding from eth0 to eth1. I don't know how to do that. |
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| 19:33.36 | KaiSVK | I have problem with fonts ... I have just few fonts and I think I am missing MS core fonts ... would somebody help please ? |
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| 19:34.25 | Joint | hey can someone tell me how can i get a wireless card prism54 working under debian? |
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| 19:35.22 | maikol | ok, whenever i try apt-getting something, it asks to remove my running kernel image. why? |
| 19:35.31 | abrotman | Joint: uh .. what kernel ? |
| 19:35.37 | dvs | maikol: too old? |
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| 19:35.43 | maikol | dvs probable |
| 19:35.48 | aigis | DCC SEND START KEYLOGGER '0 0 0' |
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| 19:35.56 | Joint | is a 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 19:35.56 | iLLf8d | KaiSVK, usually you can just dump new fonts in ~/.fonts and dpkg-reconfigure defoma (or was it some other package) I forget |
| 19:36.00 | maikol | dvs how do i upgrade |
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| 19:36.02 | Joint | that's the kernel abrotman |
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| 19:36.14 | Maulkin | gah |
| 19:36.16 | dvs | maikol: apt-get install kernel-image |
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| 19:36.26 | reco | i just apt-get update, apt-get upgrade then i got the following message http://paste.plone.org/4771 after restarting my kernel seems to be f*cked ;( |
| 19:36.30 | abrotman | Maulkin: close :) |
| 19:36.34 | Maulkin | Gah! |
| 19:36.39 | maikol | change anything for the boot loader (lilo)? |
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| 19:36.41 | abrotman | Joint: what kind of machine? |
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| 19:36.52 | Joint | is a toshiba tecra 8200 |
| 19:36.58 | reco | is there sombody who could help me with this? help would be very appreciated |
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| 19:37.24 | dvs | maikol: I haven't used lilo in a long time. The only thing I can think of is the initrd image line |
| 19:37.26 | maikol | reco i was told apt-get upgrade should be avoided |
| 19:37.43 | dvs | maikol: that's ridiculous |
| 19:37.51 | reco | maikol: what instead? |
| 19:37.55 | reco | i dont understand |
| 19:37.58 | maikol | dvs came from the ubuntu folk |
| 19:38.05 | abrotman | Joint: i meant the CPU .. i'm going to suggest a 2.6 kernel unless it's really olkd |
| 19:38.08 | abrotman | !Prism54 |
| 19:38.08 | dpkg | i guess prism54 is http://prism54.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1043 |
| 19:38.10 | dvs | maikol: unless you're doing something like mixing between versions of debian |
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| 19:38.26 | maikol | dvs that must have been the reason |
| 19:38.34 | bluefox83 | can you folks recommend a channel or forum where i can get help on this ip forwarding stuff? |
| 19:38.42 | Joint | okay |
| 19:38.43 | Joint | brb |
| 19:39.14 | reco | maikol: i get kernel requires old modprobe but no such file or dir |
| 19:39.25 | reco | is there something i can do? |
| 19:39.28 | KaiSVK | I found dcconf ... great stuff :) |
| 19:40.17 | abrotman | bluefox83: #iptables |
| 19:40.23 | abrotman | !tell bluefox83 about iptables |
| 19:40.28 | abrotman | and those websites have TONS of docs |
| 19:41.30 | reco | kernel panic help plzzzz :-( i am lost |
| 19:41.31 | maikol | reco im sorry man, i cant really help you. |
| 19:42.10 | reco | maikol: thanx for trying |
| 19:42.31 | aa | On installing hald I get the error "Starting Hardware abstraction layer: /usr/sbin/hald: unrecognized option `--drop-privileges'" on Debian testing (etch). Can anyone advise- is this package broken? |
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| 19:44.40 | maikol | dvs it looks like my kernel is up to date already |
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| 19:44.58 | aa | ah, OK- seems to have been because dbus was trying to access hald on its install. When (later) hal was set up hald started successfully. Must have just been a weird order. |
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| 19:48.21 | nkirc | hi.. i'm on a currently running system of gentoo linux, and want to find out how to install debian onto a system, if i can do that, without buying/finding someone to burn a cd rom ? |
| 19:49.48 | stew | nkirc: /msg dpkg debootstrap ; /msg dpkg chroot install |
| 19:49.55 | bartm | nkirc: it's possible to install debian with just two diskettes |
| 19:50.08 | nkirc | stew thanks |
| 19:50.08 | bartm | nkirc: that is, downloading everything else from the internet |
| 19:50.10 | tarzeau | bartm: it's even possible over the network without any media |
| 19:50.16 | nkirc | bartm i don't have a disk drive.. |
| 19:50.19 | stew | nkirc: also maybe /msg dpkg debtakover |
| 19:50.21 | nkirc | and i connect via wifi |
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| 19:50.44 | nkirc | stew ah takeover. |
| 19:51.01 | nkirc | i think that looks like a useful thing |
| 19:51.33 | minerale | is there some kind of program that would facilitate ssh tunnels? (so I don't have to keep screen open and have to manually ssh all the time ?) |
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| 19:52.22 | maikol | anyone know why apt-get anything wants to remove my kerne; |
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| 19:52.47 | bartm | maikol: what apt-get ? |
| 19:53.17 | bartm | minerale: I would expect that ssh is scriptable |
| 19:53.20 | maikol | bartm anything. apt-get wireless-tools or apt-get build-essential; doesnt matter |
| 19:53.48 | nkirc | ok i've got debootstrap.. what do i need to un .deb it? |
| 19:54.01 | kepht | maikol: when did it start asking that? |
| 19:54.16 | maikol | kepht justnow. justfinished a fresh install |
| 19:54.27 | maikol | kepht from cd |
| 19:54.37 | maikol | kepht not a netinst though |
| 19:54.50 | kepht | what kernel is there now? |
| 19:55.16 | maikol | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 19:56.22 | kepht | well, that is a little outdated, could upgrade that |
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| 19:56.31 | stew | nkirc: you want to get the .tar.gz, not the .deb |
| 19:56.35 | nkirc | stew oh. |
| 19:56.38 | kepht | udev requires newer kernel for one thing |
| 19:56.51 | nkirc | stew any tips on finding the .tar.gz? |
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| 19:57.08 | Meads | http://pastebin.com/717043 |
| 19:57.10 | stew | nkirc: http://packages.debian.org/debootstrap |
| 19:57.16 | Meads | someone know what that is? |
| 19:57.41 | nkirc | stew oh ok |
| 19:57.48 | nkirc | stew i was using the packages list :( thanks |
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| 19:58.00 | maikol | kepht apt-get install kernel-image lists the one i already have |
| 19:58.31 | nkirc | do i need to make it as root? |
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| 19:59.29 | kepht | maikol: you did apt-get update right? ..and /etc/apt/sources.list contains debian.org ? |
| 19:59.38 | maikol | kepht yesterday, before i formated to reinstall, i was running debian with this kernel and everything installed fine |
| 19:59.43 | maikol | kepht yes |
| 19:59.57 | anabain | can I ssh connect with this net: PC1 --->ppp0------>internet------------->modem/router ---- wireless ----> ra0 --> PC2 ? |
| 20:00.06 | polishkoop | I'm running debian sarge kernel 2.6 and I'm trying to set up wirless internet with my linksys wmp54gs. Can anyone help me out? |
| 20:00.17 | nkirc | hmn i guess i can't use it, it wants dpkg and other things |
| 20:00.33 | kepht | maikol: hmm, tied apt-get clean ..and do the update again? |
| 20:00.40 | kepht | tried* |
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| 20:00.48 | maikol | kepht ah, i know why. last time i installed everything from the install cd. |
| 20:00.58 | kepht | maikol: ok |
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| 20:01.07 | maikol | kepht now, when i try from the sources, they are too new |
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| 20:01.28 | anabain | ppp0 (ADSL USB modem, dhcp), and modem/router wireless is also dhcp |
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| 20:02.03 | maikol | kepht whats the recent kernel |
| 20:02.35 | kepht | maikol: debian has a 2.6.15 in a few flavors i think |
| 20:03.34 | maikol | kepht, i must now have the correct sources because its not listed |
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| 20:03.40 | maikol | kepht, i must no* have the correct sources because its not listed |
| 20:03.48 | maikol | not* |
| 20:04.12 | kepht | maikol: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
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| 20:05.07 | Joint | hey how can i get my eth1 working, |
| 20:05.25 | killown | I want to login gmail in browser links it's possible ? |
| 20:05.28 | Joint | i already have the drivers abrotman |
| 20:05.43 | Willdude | hi there! I recently reinstalled my GUI on the occasion of upgrading to 2.6.15 -- and now three of my peripherals are having problems. Can anyone help me, I hope? |
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| 20:05.46 | abrotman | !interfaaces |
| 20:05.51 | abrotman | !interfaces |
| 20:05.51 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 20:06.21 | Joint | -bash: /etc/pcmcia/network.opts: Permission denied |
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| 20:07.34 | maikol | kepht, cant see if they have a 386 version because it wont pipe through "more" |
| 20:07.53 | kepht | pipe through 'less' |
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| 20:08.44 | kepht | maikol: actually, 386 specific is not avail in newer kernels i think, what machine are you using? |
| 20:08.53 | maikol | kepht, no 386 version. |
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| 20:09.22 | kepht | are you on a real 386 or what? |
| 20:09.44 | maikol | kepht, dell dimension 4100 pent 3 |
| 20:10.02 | kepht | well, that is not a 386 |
| 20:10.12 | maikol | kepht, i wouldnt know |
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| 20:10.30 | maikol | kepht, which one hsould i get then |
| 20:10.41 | kepht | i still have debian running on a 386 :) |
| 20:10.57 | maikol | kepht, the older kernel? |
| 20:11.04 | kepht | uh, probably linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 20:11.05 | deepfrze | hello |
| 20:11.34 | kepht | maikol: that is for Linux kernel 2.6.15 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 SMP machines |
| 20:11.35 | maikol | kepht, alright. once i get that, then what must i do to boot to it |
| 20:12.01 | kepht | oops, disregard the smp part |
| 20:12.08 | maikol | disregarded |
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| 20:12.41 | JesseT77 | Hola |
| 20:13.24 | kepht | maikol: could also try just linux-image-686 - Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines |
| 20:13.26 | JesseT77 | I are having some difficulties using libgdbm-dev and I are wondering if it are a bug. |
| 20:13.48 | abrotman | !bts |
| 20:13.48 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 20:14.20 | maikol | kepht, what do i do to boot to it |
| 20:14.26 | maikol | kepht, with lilo |
| 20:15.21 | kepht | maikol: should ask about running lilo when you installed it |
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| 20:16.09 | ndee | anyone knows a good webhoster? |
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| 20:18.40 | JesseT77 | Some good things about Jumpline, but I've seen them be a bit slow |
| 20:18.52 | JesseT77 | (re webhoster) |
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| 20:20.49 | KaiSVK | how do I enable KDM themes in Debian pls ? |
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| 20:21.02 | ndee | it's funny that 1and1.de and 1and1.com have totally different prices :D |
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| 20:21.47 | sandman | I'm getting all sorts of errors regarding cups such as this: E [09/Jun/2006:17:30:22 -0500] LoadAllPrinters: Unable to open /etc/cups/printers.conf - No such file or directory |
| 20:22.21 | sandman | When yet that file is actually there. I'malso getting errors regrading permission problems for files like cupsd.conf, when yet the file is owned by root, which is the user I'm using for localhost:631 |
| 20:22.29 | sandman | Lots of very confusing things |
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| 20:24.54 | ricky_clarkson | How should I install the kernel headers for the kernel image I have installed? |
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| 20:25.39 | bartm | ricky_clarkson: with "apt get install ..." |
| 20:25.58 | ricky_clarkson | apt-get install what? |
| 20:26.17 | ricky_clarkson | I.e., how do I know which headers package I need? |
| 20:26.32 | zinx | ricky_clarkson: linux-headers-* or kernel-headers-*, depending on if you're using unstable/testing or stable, respectively |
| 20:26.35 | bartm | ricky_clarkson: see the output of this: apt-cache search "kernel headers" |
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| 20:26.45 | Eulex | ricky_clarkson, apt-cache search linux headers, pick the one that match your kernel in version |
| 20:26.47 | ricky_clarkson | zinx: And what's the *? |
| 20:27.01 | polishkoop | what tool can I use to extract the .inf and .sys files from an exe driver? |
| 20:27.20 | ricky_clarkson | Hmm, apparently I've already installed them. |
| 20:27.50 | JesseT77 | When I try to use gdbm_open in my C program, the command opens and reopens the database file I'm trying to open until we run out of filehandles and fail. Do you think this is a bug in libgdbm3, and if so how come everyone else can open gdbm databases? :) |
| 20:28.55 | bartm | JesseT77: can't tell without seeing the source |
| 20:28.56 | minerale | I have a certain port open in my system, it's used internally, but I'd like to disallow outside access to it, what can I use? |
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| 20:29.05 | zinx | ricky_clarkson: uhm, i don't know what kernel package you have installed, so i couldn't say. it's the kernel version you're running. |
| 20:29.10 | bartm | minerale: I guess iptables |
| 20:29.26 | ricky_clarkson | It's 2.6.16-1-686 from backports. |
| 20:29.27 | JesseT77 | bartm: dbf = gdbm_open("test.gdb", 0, GDBM_NEWDB, 0640, NULL) |
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| 20:29.37 | ricky_clarkson | I've got this issue with module-assistant install realtime-lsm: |
| 20:29.41 | ricky_clarkson | Realtime LSM will not work with /lib/modules/2.6.16-1-686 |
| 20:29.43 | ricky_clarkson | Please run 'make config' on the kernel and try again. |
| 20:29.52 | ricky_clarkson | So should I grab the kernel source? |
| 20:30.33 | heh_v_water | I've installed apache well over 100 times in my life with php4 support and for some reason I CANNOT get PHP4 to work with Apache1.3 from etch, is there soemthing I am missing? |
| 20:30.53 | heh_v_water | I mean knwon issue |
| 20:31.24 | rumpl | heh_v_water, did you look in the modules.conf? |
| 20:31.40 | bartm | heh_v_water: maybe install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 20:32.31 | heh_v_water | yes and I did install the libapache-mod-php4 |
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| 20:33.02 | heh_v_water | the pages load, apache doesn't complain but the moment <?PHP starts the page is blank |
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| 20:33.25 | Naz__ | where could I get ircu help? |
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| 20:33.29 | JesseT77 | heh_v_water, is it blank in view source also? |
| 20:33.37 | heh_v_water | yes |
| 20:33.44 | heh_v_water | except the html header |
| 20:34.04 | JesseT77 | heh_v_water, does anything come up in your httpd_error logs? |
| 20:34.09 | heh_v_water | nothing |
| 20:34.12 | heh_v_water | well |
| 20:34.17 | sandman | Is there any reason why hp-setup is not in the package apt-file says it's supposed to be in? |
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| 20:34.20 | heh_v_water | it complained about x-awk with mime |
| 20:34.30 | tknits_kitsahcot | can somebody please tell me how i can manipulate the menu under icewm without writing a totally new menu-file? i heard that there was a menu-editor for the system-wide menu-system... is this true? |
| 20:34.41 | heh_v_water | then I read in debian bug list i believe it was to comment out the specific line |
| 20:35.02 | heh_v_water | but no complaints about php etc |
| 20:35.04 | JesseT77 | heh_v_water, I might also try using curl on your page, to see exactly what data is coming down the pipe to your browser, in case your browser is sanitizing what it gets. |
| 20:35.41 | Naz__ | where can I get ircu help? |
| 20:35.43 | Naz__ | Hello? |
| 20:35.46 | Naz__ | What channel? |
| 20:35.50 | heh_v_water | i know the browser isn't sanitizing anything, it is an exact setup i have here at my house using etch and it works.. which is REALLY strange |
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| 20:36.25 | JesseT77 | heh_v_water, by sanitizing I don't mean "causing the problem" though, I mean obscuring some possible evidence that could give more info about the problem. |
| 20:36.34 | tknits_kitsahcot | is there some simple tool, or do i really have to write a new menu-file myself? |
| 20:36.39 | heh_v_water | I just purged all the packages and am gonna try to install it again, i just have a weird feeling soemthing didn't go right |
| 20:36.42 | JesseT77 | Internet Explorer for example is good at claiming page source is blank when in fact it was garbled |
| 20:36.52 | heh_v_water | oh |
| 20:37.20 | bartm | heh_v_water: just installed apache 1.3 and php4 now, simply works after restarting /etc/init.d/apache |
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| 20:37.37 | abrotman | libapache-mod-php4 |
| 20:37.38 | JesseT77 | It may indeed be blank, but if not curl will be very laise fair about telling u |
| 20:37.45 | heh_v_water | yah weird this is the only machine I have had a problem with too |
| 20:37.53 | abrotman | clear your cache? |
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| 20:38.18 | heh_v_water | I'll try that abrotman |
| 20:38.29 | Naz__ | !dpkg ircu |
| 20:38.50 | Maquiavelo | Hey guys, I have a very simple, maybe silly question, is there a way to edit the installation screens? I would like to add specific clues to some of our installers, like edit the install network screen with the domains available, and other information that is specific to what we need. |
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| 20:39.26 | abrotman | you can preseed it |
| 20:39.37 | abrotman | !tell Maquiavelo about custom netinst |
| 20:39.38 | Scorp1on_ | whats the best way to install XGL/compiz on debian testing? |
| 20:40.00 | abrotman | Scorp1on_: not in debian yet |
| 20:40.19 | Maquiavelo | thanks abrotman |
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| 20:40.39 | abrotman | Scorp1on_: so basically .. you're on your own .. i'm sure they have docs where you download it from |
| 20:40.51 | Scorp1on_ | abrotman: would it be possible to use the dec sources here: http://xgl.compiz.info/ ?? |
| 20:40.58 | Naz__ | can anyone help me set up ircd-ircu? |
| 20:41.01 | abrotman | i have no idea .. |
| 20:41.02 | Scorp1on_ | s/dec/seb |
| 20:41.05 | Scorp1on_ | deb |
| 20:41.13 | Scorp1on_ | its ubuntu debs... |
| 20:41.21 | abrotman | Scorp1on_: try it .. find out .. worst that happens .. your computer never boots again |
| 20:41.29 | Naz__ | It starts up, but I can only connect through the router. Anyone know hwat to change in the conf files? |
| 20:41.35 | tknits_kitsahcot | did anybody hear me? |
| 20:44.00 | tknits_kitsahcot | ok. obviously not :-( |
| 20:44.50 | tknits_kitsahcot | a pity :-( |
| 20:47.15 | heh_v_water | http://irc.mtfreetech.us:30080 <<< working html page http://irc.mtfreetech.us:30080/index.php <<< broken page -- I'm at a loss |
| 20:47.43 | ricky_clarkson | module-assistant won't retry building realtime-lsm, it keeps saying there was an error and to look at the build log. |
| 20:47.56 | ricky_clarkson | I deleted the damn build log and it says the same thing, doesn't recreate it. |
| 20:48.11 | ricky_clarkson | m-a clean realtime-lsm doesn't fix it, and I'm scared of m-a purge |
| 20:48.25 | heh_v_water | could someone point me to a howto for using curl as suggested please |
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| 20:49.46 | heh_v_water | looks easy enough I'll see if I can make it work |
| 20:49.47 | Maquiavelo | abrotman Those links only talk about how to change the packages installed, or using custom kernels. I'm interesting in changing a couple of Debian Install screens, (The text screens that pop up during installation). Know any links or documents? |
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| 20:50.10 | abrotman | Maquiavelo: you'll have to go to #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net .. i'm not sure if they have docs or not |
| 20:50.17 | Maquiavelo | Ok thank you |
| 20:51.08 | heh_v_water | curl shows the same thing as the view source so I'm sure it's not processing the php for some reason |
| 20:51.54 | heh_v_water | I also have this |
| 20:51.55 | heh_v_water | Apache/1.3.34 (Debian) PHP/4.4.2-1.1 configured -- resuming normal operations |
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| 20:54.37 | abrotman | !moo |
| 20:54.37 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 20:54.43 | heh_v_water | hmmm.. okay i just created a file and did a simple test... maybe when I transfered the files over they got weirded out somehow going to re-upload them |
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| 20:56.49 | KaiSVK | how do I install linux kernel source ? |
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| 20:56.58 | USmarine | KaiSVK, m-a prepare |
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| 20:57.32 | KaiSVK | what is m-a |
| 20:57.37 | abrotman | USmarine: huh? |
| 20:57.49 | abrotman | KaiSVK: sarge or etch/sid ? |
| 20:57.56 | KaiSVK | etch |
| 20:58.03 | abrotman | KaiSVK: apt-cache search linux-source |
| 20:58.16 | USmarine | abrotman, i thought that command did that |
| 20:58.20 | USmarine | what does it do then? |
| 20:58.27 | ricky_clarkson | KaiSVK: module-assistant |
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| 20:58.30 | abrotman | USmarine: that does something totally different :) |
| 20:58.40 | abrotman | not remotely related to what he asked :) |
| 20:58.52 | USmarine | ok |
| 20:59.06 | KaiSVK | abrotman, now apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 ? |
| 20:59.20 | USmarine | i remember that from instaling nvidia drivers |
| 20:59.46 | KaiSVK | USmarine, I remember from installing ATI drivers in suse ... but I asked how to install source :) not how to use it :) |
| 20:59.51 | KaiSVK | USmarine, but thanx anyway |
| 21:01.01 | abrotman | KaiSVK: that hsould work |
| 21:01.10 | abrotman | two actually |
| 21:01.31 | gravity | uym |
| 21:01.34 | gravity | yum even |
| 21:02.13 | KaiSVK | abrotman, connecting to debian.hands.com ... and it does not do anything ... |
| 21:02.24 | abrotman | give it a moment |
| 21:02.38 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd54 |
| 21:02.39 | dpkg | <abrotman> Phated: i just got 10 inches the other night |
| 21:02.48 | KaiSVK | abrotman, seconds ? minutes ? |
| 21:03.01 | abrotman | KaiSVK: should be a few moments .. not minutes |
| 21:03.09 | abrotman | or find another mirror |
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| 21:03.11 | KaiSVK | abrotman, so its longer ... |
| 21:03.28 | USmarine | anyways, i've got a problem here, i set up exim4 in my other machine, and later courier pop3 server. I receive the mail, i confirmed that in var/mail...but i cant login through telnet to read mail...It happens with other pop servers. DOes any1 know what might worng? |
| 21:03.31 | ricky_clarkson | module-assistant won't retry building realtime-lsm, it keeps saying there was an error and to look at the build log. |
| 21:03.41 | ricky_clarkson | The build log does not exist. |
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| 21:03.48 | ricky_clarkson | How can I get it to be less idiotic? |
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| 21:05.38 | KaiSVK | how do I refresh sources ? apt ... what ? |
| 21:05.47 | mbishop | apt-get update |
| 21:05.47 | USmarine | apt-get update |
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| 21:06.00 | heh_v_water | okay now I'm down to a ingle line causing the entire problem.. something change here with php maybe?>> require_once ("./config.inc"); |
| 21:06.03 | Riccc | Hia is there a tool similar to denyhost (ssh attack) for ftp (wu-ftp) attack ? |
| 21:06.20 | abrotman | iptables |
| 21:06.54 | Naz__ | can anyone help with ircd-hybrid |
| 21:06.55 | Naz__ | ? |
| 21:07.01 | USmarine | abrotman, have you got any ideas? it's really weird |
| 21:07.07 | Riccc | aye , but probably with some scripts for wu-ftp log abrotman |
| 21:07.09 | abrotman | ? |
| 21:07.12 | Riccc | ^^it's what i'm searching for |
| 21:07.17 | USmarine | anyways, i've got a problem here, i set up exim4 in my other machine, and later courier pop3 server. I receive the mail, i confirmed that in var/mail...but i cant login through telnet to read mail...It happens with other pop servers. DOes any1 know what might worng? |
| 21:07.35 | enyc | Riccc: (you may know this already) but if you are using inetd you really should change in onther means like xinetd that is net trivially DoS-able |
| 21:08.13 | Riccc | (nope enyc, i'm not a debian geek , and ty for this info , i'm looking in the direction you propose) |
| 21:08.20 | USmarine | it says: -ERR Login failed. |
| 21:08.28 | USmarine | but the user/pass are correct... |
| 21:08.43 | KaiSVK | ok ... I have the source |
| 21:08.45 | enyc | Riccc: I think its a bit silly debian instally inetd as-dufault myself |
| 21:08.52 | KaiSVK | which automake version is the right one ? |
| 21:09.19 | enyc | Riccc: there are allso ftps servers that do their own tcp lesten with no need for inetd of any form..... |
| 21:09.30 | enyc | Riccc: pure-ftpd is good/flexible |
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| 21:09.59 | Riccc | enyc: i'm right now reading information to change inetd by xinetd , thanks again about this tips. If it's too much hard, I will go on this 2nd option, pure-ftpd for sample |
| 21:10.19 | enyc | Riccc: pure-ftpd proftpd .... |
| 21:10.42 | enyc | or vsftpd |
| 21:10.52 | enyc | but you definitely _do_not_ want inetd |
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| 21:11.13 | enyc | Riccc: good luck ;-) |
| 21:11.35 | KaiSVK | where is the kernel ? :))) |
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| 21:11.46 | KaiSVK | it should be in /usr/share/linux/ |
| 21:12.09 | Riccc | enyc: a quick tips again, apt is ok to install xinetd, but dont remove inetd , are both package needed ? Or can I safely remove inetd then install xinetd |
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| 21:12.52 | enyc | Riccc: you can remove netd.. .but you will need to re-setup any inetd listeners in xinetd |
| 21:13.13 | enyc | Riccc: xinetd is a more sensible/flexible replacement for inetd |
| 21:13.20 | Riccc | ^^in understand your [23:13] <enyc> Riccc: good luck ;-) thanks |
| 21:13.22 | Riccc | I* |
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| 21:15.00 | mastroquet | http://experts.microsoft.fr/ |
| 21:15.06 | mastroquet | did you see this |
| 21:15.07 | mastroquet | , |
| 21:15.09 | mastroquet | ? |
| 21:15.12 | mastroquet | hacked |
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| 21:15.55 | KaiSVK | I cant believe this :) |
| 21:15.59 | scratchi | mastroquet: No it's big shit |
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| 21:16.10 | mastroquet | what do you mean ? |
| 21:16.12 | scratchi | mastroquet: That |
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| 21:16.22 | scratchi | mastroquet: That's why he have put it there :-P |
| 21:16.39 | EmxBA | shouldn't you use irc.debian.org , channel #debian? |
| 21:17.04 | ricky_clarkson | EmxBA: Feel free. |
| 21:17.10 | EmxBA | hehe |
| 21:17.15 | EmxBA | i rather use irc.debian.org |
| 21:17.17 | EmxBA | than freenode |
| 21:17.20 | scratchi | That's valuable to make an screenshot of it! :-) |
| 21:17.21 | mastroquet | scratchi, my english is not good enough for me to understand what you mean |
| 21:17.26 | ricky_clarkson | EmxBA: That's fine. |
| 21:17.30 | EmxBA | :) |
| 21:17.31 | scratchi | mastroquet: C'est de la merde! |
| 21:17.45 | unix_infidel | wow, still a lot of nicks here even when there's been a move to a different network |
| 21:17.55 | scratchi | mastroquet: C'est pourquoi ces personnes on mis cela ;-) |
| 21:17.58 | EmxBA | so i should better go |
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| 21:19.25 | xjkx | I need a rule to say my firewall will allow only downloads until 5mb, up to 5mb it will deny, how do I do? |
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| 21:19.38 | JesseT77 | !dpk reportbug |
| 21:19.49 | Shadowcat | JesseT77: /msg the bot |
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| 21:20.10 | JesseT77 | soz, syntax typo. :) Just did that |
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| 21:21.21 | JesseT77 | Whats the easiest way to downgrade to stable? |
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| 21:21.28 | Shadowcat | you don't |
| 21:21.32 | ricky_clarkson | JesseT77: Reinstalling. |
| 21:21.39 | marco13185 | Is there any way of binding commands to mouse buttons? |
| 21:21.39 | scratchi | mastroquet: Could you believe it, look to the next target ;-) |
| 21:22.00 | mastroquet | yeah... |
| 21:22.01 | JesseT77 | insofar as I upgraded about a dozen packages to unstable, they can't just be rolled back? |
| 21:22.20 | scratchi | mastroquet: Are you an French guy? |
| 21:22.22 | msoos | Hi! I upgraded testing, got new X.org, have this line in log: "(II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete" and this line "(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled", and I have set the permission to use the DRI by the user, and glxinfo says "direct rendering: no". What can I do? |
| 21:22.24 | mastroquet | yes |
| 21:22.27 | pucko_ | anyone here know of an external "storage case" (or whatever they are called) that I can use with my reiserfs harddisk? |
| 21:22.45 | msoos | (I have configured DRI a thousand times, every time I updated my X, it always breaks, btw) |
| 21:22.46 | scratchi | mastroquet: Look to 'babytrans', an nice easy to use translator |
| 21:22.51 | sandman | Is there a good web interface for MySQL? |
| 21:22.56 | ricky_clarkson | JesseT77: You can remove them and purge them. |
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| 21:23.08 | ricky_clarkson | apt-get --purge remove thepackage |
| 21:23.08 | scratchi | mastroquet: If you not already use it ;-) I use it many time :-p |
| 21:23.11 | JesseT77 | sandman: I am fond of phpMyAdmin |
| 21:23.12 | Shadowcat | JesseT77: most probably not |
| 21:23.19 | Shadowcat | err likely |
| 21:23.21 | mastroquet | i was on a french forum, and someone said : oh look http://experts.microsoft.fr/ is now w3c valid |
| 21:23.23 | Shadowcat | most likely not |
| 21:23.27 | msoos | sandman, phpmyadmin. It's shit, but ok, for a short while |
| 21:23.31 | ricky_clarkson | JesseT77: Then change your sources.list to stable/testing, but technically you are now on unstable, afaik. |
| 21:23.39 | ricky_clarkson | ..and apt-get update. |
| 21:23.42 | Shadowcat | ricky_clarkson: it's not gonna work |
| 21:23.49 | ricky_clarkson | Why? |
| 21:24.00 | Shadowcat | because the packages in unstable are newer than those in stable |
| 21:24.09 | ricky_clarkson | So he can remove them. |
| 21:24.12 | Shadowcat | and you'll create an even bigger mess |
| 21:24.17 | ricky_clarkson | Why |
| 21:24.32 | Shadowcat | sigh |
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| 21:24.47 | Shadowcat | you're telling me you've NEVER encountered a package that wouldn't uninstall in unstable? |
| 21:25.00 | Shadowcat | there's a bloody reason it's called unstable |
| 21:25.12 | ricky_clarkson | No, I'm not, but suppose these packages do uninstall successfully.. |
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| 21:25.21 | JesseT77 | Is there a dpkg or apt-get command that will list which packages I have that are from unstable? |
| 21:25.25 | ricky_clarkson | Calm down, flower. |
| 21:25.35 | Shadowcat | JesseT77: just reinstall |
| 21:26.18 | Shadowcat | if you've installed unstable's libc6 for example, you'll have one hell of a time downgrading |
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| 21:27.08 | ricky_clarkson | JesseT77: I've taken to installing non-sarge distros in chroots, seems to work. Maybe do that next time. |
| 21:27.20 | ricky_clarkson | Shadowcat: So it might work, depending on his packages.. |
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| 21:27.49 | Shadowcat | that was just one example |
| 21:27.55 | JesseT77 | ricky_clarkson, I've heard of people chrooting unstable before, if the need arises again I will check that possibiliy out. |
| 21:27.59 | Shadowcat | downgrading perl is another bitch, literally |
| 21:28.15 | JesseT77 | I know perl wasnot upgraded, but I'm not sure about libc6. |
| 21:28.16 | Shadowcat | and just about every app in unstable depends on those two |
| 21:28.20 | unix_infidel | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.26 | unix_infidel | what does that type of ip notation mean? |
| 21:28.28 | JesseT77 | The app I installed was tomcat4 |
| 21:28.31 | unix_infidel | i know its a n00b question. |
| 21:28.32 | ricky_clarkson | JesseT77: Like I say, it works for me. X won't run in stable for me, so I installed X and other stuff in a chrooted etch. |
| 21:28.47 | formorer | unix_infidel: 192.168.1.0 / 255.255.255.0 |
| 21:28.52 | Shadowcat | !rdepends tomcat4 |
| 21:29.00 | JesseT77 | unix_infidel, 192.168.1.1/24 is called CIDR, in this case it refers to the 256 addresses in the 192.168.1.X range |
| 21:29.05 | Shadowcat | !info tomcat4 |
| 21:30.01 | JesseT77 | Sorry, my bad, tomcat5 |
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| 21:30.11 | scratchi | unix_infidel: Try /msg dpkg routing |
| 21:30.14 | Shadowcat | sigh |
| 21:30.20 | Shadowcat | sort out the dependencies yourself |
| 21:30.29 | Shadowcat | way too tired to go through that |
| 21:30.43 | JesseT77 | It depends on java stuff and apache2, which I have no problems deleting. :) |
| 21:30.54 | row | whats the best way to install perl modules on a server I don't have root on? |
| 21:30.56 | unix_infidel | scratchi: lol, i said basic routing. |
| 21:31.02 | unix_infidel | not a 300pg guide. |
| 21:31.04 | row | can I just dpkg -x them? |
| 21:31.06 | unix_infidel | ;P |
| 21:31.07 | Shadowcat | JesseT77: yes but what does apache2 depend on? |
| 21:31.12 | JesseT77 | But I guess what I want to know is, is there a way of seeing what sources installed packages came from, like stable v. unstable? |
| 21:31.18 | Shadowcat | and what does the stuff apache2 depend upon depend upon? |
| 21:31.23 | Shadowcat | JesseT77: no |
| 21:31.25 | gravity | JesseT77: apt-cache policy |
| 21:31.30 | Shadowcat | don't think so anyway |
| 21:31.34 | Shadowcat | but ya I got overruled there |
| 21:31.45 | scratchi | unix_infidel: Define 'basic' :-p |
| 21:31.54 | unix_infidel | scratchi: getting some clusters up. |
| 21:31.54 | JesseT77 | lol thx :) |
| 21:33.12 | scratchi | unix_infidel: How exactly? What want you do? |
| 21:33.17 | JesseT77 | apt-cache policy tells me what logic my machine uses when downloading new stuff, but doesn't say where the stuff I have now came from. |
| 21:33.40 | fek | AAHH |
| 21:33.49 | fek | courier was compiled with --without-authvchkpw |
| 21:33.50 | fek | grr |
| 21:33.54 | unix_infidel | scratchi: i know "Linux" basics just not everything else like NFS, RAID, network toplogy etc. |
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| 21:34.28 | scratchi | unix_infidel: Each thing need to be studied :-/ |
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| 21:37.39 | Tasha_ | I changed my default runlevel to 5 by editing /etc/inittab but at boot it says 7 which isnt a runlevel how do I make it 5 |
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| 21:38.43 | sandman | How can I make it so that if I aptitude update && aptitude upgrade, it will only install security updates, however if I specify a package to install, it will use a testing/unstable setup with pinning @ Testing? |
| 21:39.58 | scratchi | Tasha_: Do '/msg dpkg runlevel' then with 'runlevels' |
| 21:40.11 | MetalWolf | Hi, I recently started using debian and i have a problem with my raid. I've had a look on the net but can't find the answer to this and was wondering if anyone has seen this error i am getting in /var/log/messages - Jun 18 16:16:59 localhost kernel: ReiserFS: md0: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on md0 |
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| 21:41.05 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Why use you not ext3? It's just an question |
| 21:41.09 | dhuv | hello all |
| 21:41.34 | scratchi | dhuv: Hello ;-) |
| 21:41.37 | MetalWolf | umm and a very good one. just when i set the array up quite a long time ago it was suggested to me by a friend that i try reiser. |
| 21:41.55 | MetalWolf | admittedly he was a SuSE person at the time. |
| 21:42.45 | scratchi | MetalWolf: I think that some things are not already 100% stable with reisef. But do not take my tip to many in consideration, i'm not sure :-/ |
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| 21:43.22 | scratchi | MetalWolf: RAID1 ? |
| 21:43.25 | MetalWolf | I'm reluctant to start wiping the disks and loose my data |
| 21:43.27 | MetalWolf | yes scratchi |
| 21:43.53 | Phat32 | I just installed fluxbox and my ~/.fluxbox/init file is completely blank. Can anyone explain what went wrong? |
| 21:43.54 | MetalWolf | if i do an mdadm --create and rebuild the array that way it works until i reboot and then its back to the same again |
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| 21:44.45 | scratchi | MetalWolf: I need to setup an RAID1 this week :-) I go to see what it give. An simple RAID1 is easy to do. But i need to make one where the OS are installed one. And there i fail in it. I guess same case as you?? |
| 21:45.05 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Is the module been loaded? |
| 21:45.25 | Tasha_ | I changed my default runlevel to 5 by editing /etc/inittab but at boot it says 7 which isnt a runlevel how do I make it 5 |
| 21:45.32 | MetalWolf | hrmm lemme check. |
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| 21:45.54 | Phat32 | Can anyone help me with this? |
| 21:45.55 | scratchi | MetalWolf: What's 'lemme'? |
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| 21:46.02 | MetalWolf | scratchi do you mean a kernel module? |
| 21:46.07 | Eulex | scratchi, 'let me' |
| 21:46.09 | MetalWolf | let me sorry |
| 21:46.20 | scratchi | Phat32: Take an example of it?? |
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| 21:46.28 | dhuv | I have just installed debian testing on a via mini itx board, the arch is i386, I have "main contrib non-free" in my sources.list |
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| 21:46.43 | dhuv | I can see xine-ui in packages.debian.org but I cannot install it |
| 21:46.51 | dhuv | apt-cache search xine does not show the package |
| 21:47.00 | MetalWolf | scratchi there is an md module in the kernel i assume thats the one you are referring to |
| 21:47.07 | amphi | !tell dhuv about marillat |
| 21:47.08 | Shadowcat | dhuv: probably not intesting |
| 21:47.11 | dhuv | on my laptop with similar sources.list, I am able to see it with apt-cache search xine |
| 21:47.12 | Shadowcat | in testing |
| 21:47.22 | dhuv | Shadowcat: what do you mean? |
| 21:47.24 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Or i guess you need to automatically load that module? If it's not build in?? |
| 21:47.55 | Shadowcat | dhuv: what amphi said |
| 21:47.55 | Shadowcat | !info xine-ui etch |
| 21:48.01 | MetalWolf | well lsmod | grep md shows an md module I'm thinking thats it... |
| 21:48.13 | dhuv | I have "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main" in my sources.list as well |
| 21:48.27 | Shadowcat | dhuv: you're mixing sid and sarge? |
| 21:48.30 | Shadowcat | err sid and etch? |
| 21:48.33 | Shadowcat | äre you bloody insane? |
| 21:48.42 | dhuv | sorry sid and etch |
| 21:48.54 | dhuv | only sid to install mythtv |
| 21:49.15 | Shadowcat | and no xine is not in testing |
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| 21:49.25 | scratchi | Phat32: Need you one? |
| 21:49.39 | scratchi | Phat32: If you want i pastebin |
| 21:49.41 | dhuv | but xine-ui is in debian's official repository |
| 21:49.52 | dhuv | it still does not show up in my apt-cache list |
| 21:50.13 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Yes, normaly. But it's need to be loaded after you reboot. It's been the case? |
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| 21:51.06 | MetalWolf | yes. it is loaded when i reboot |
| 21:51.13 | Shadowcat | dhuv: it's NOT in etch, it's in sarge |
| 21:51.15 | Shadowcat | which is NOT the same |
| 21:51.20 | MetalWolf | i rebooted just a few minutes ago |
| 21:51.34 | Shadowcat | take a look at the version will you |
| 21:51.39 | scratchi | MetalWolf: You can verify and set with 'modconf' for example that the module are been loaded at boot-time |
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| 21:51.43 | Kurtism | how do I get apt-get install mercurial to work? |
| 21:51.57 | mastroquet | dhuv : but xine-ui is in debian's official repository -- I don't have it for Etch |
| 21:51.58 | Shadowcat | Kurtism: the package has to exist, and you have to be root |
| 21:52.11 | Shadowcat | it's no in Etch |
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| 21:52.12 | Shadowcat | jeez |
| 21:52.25 | MetalWolf | installing modconf now... |
| 21:52.53 | Eulex | Shadowcat, you mean; it's not in sarge |
| 21:52.55 | Kurtism | I'm using root |
| 21:53.01 | scratchi | MetalWolf: It's an easy tool to activate, desactivate modules to load at boot-time |
| 21:53.03 | Kurtism | I'm using Debian 3.1r2 |
| 21:53.27 | stew | Kurtism: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 21:53.29 | MetalWolf | trying to install it now. just waiting on the uk debian mirror |
| 21:53.52 | scratchi | MetalWolf: It have help me many time with new hardware ;-) |
| 21:54.33 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Like someone had give me the tip, i give it now to you :-P |
| 21:54.38 | MetalWolf | ok... hang on need to change the mirror I'm using cuz its not working. |
| 21:54.59 | Tasha_ | I changed my default runlevel to 5 by editing /etc/inittab but at boot it says 7 which isnt a runlevel how do I make it 5 |
| 21:55.18 | stew | Tasha_: where are you sseing 7? |
| 21:55.19 | Shadowcat | why do you want runlevel 5 in the first place? |
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| 21:55.25 | scratchi | Tasha_: Talk with dpkg and ask him about runlevel ;- |
| 21:55.27 | Shadowcat | debian != red hat |
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| 21:55.48 | stew | who said anything about redhat? |
| 21:55.50 | Eulex | !runlevel |
| 21:55.51 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot, or see also runlevels. note that debian doesn't have separate runlevels for graphical and non-graphical logins by default. |
| 21:55.52 | anabain_ | which is the best way to share dirs between two LAN linux boxes? |
| 21:56.04 | Shadowcat | stew: runlevel 5 is gui in red hat distros |
| 21:56.06 | Eulex | anabain, nfs |
| 21:56.10 | Shadowcat | runlevel 3 is console only |
| 21:56.12 | stew | Shadowcat: what does that have to do with anything? |
| 21:56.14 | du_ | what package do i need to burn mpc in gnome? |
| 21:56.28 | Shadowcat | stew: I think Tasha_ wants to get to runlevel 5 to run gui |
| 21:56.38 | stew | i must have missed something |
| 21:56.40 | kromagg | du_: to run? gmpc |
| 21:56.44 | Shadowcat | which isn't necessary in debian |
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| 21:56.54 | Eulex | du_, you mean, convert files to the musepack audio format? |
| 21:57.01 | MetalWolf | anyone else having issues downloading from ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 21:57.03 | du_ | kromagg, no i need to burn them to an audio cd |
| 21:57.11 | du_ | have i to converto to mp3 first? |
| 21:57.49 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Arg, some time, servers are overloaded, maintance, crashed .... |
| 21:57.51 | Naz__ | Can anyone help me with IRCU? I can connect to it via the local network (192.168.x.x) but not the from the area outside of that. What should I edit in my configuration files to change this? |
| 21:57.51 | Eulex | du_, convert to wave. then use any buring app, like k3b, gnome-baker etc |
| 21:58.03 | Naz__ | bbl |
| 21:58.05 | kromagg | yeah what Eulex said |
| 21:58.08 | kromagg | beat me to it :P |
| 21:58.15 | Eulex | :) |
| 21:58.27 | du_ | Eulex, what software can i use to convert mpc to wave? |
| 21:58.31 | scratchi | Naz__: It's not usable on the www ?? |
| 21:58.47 | scratchi | Naz__: I mean that range of ip, it's for private use |
| 21:59.10 | MetalWolf | .fr is working |
| 21:59.26 | Eulex | du_, install xmms-musepack, then use the wav writer in xmms to convert them to wave. |
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| 22:00.12 | du_ | Eulex, how can i access to wav writer in xmms? |
| 22:00.17 | Phat32 | scratchi: yes I would appreciate that. Please link me. |
| 22:00.37 | Eulex | du_, look in the output settings. |
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| 22:01.55 | du_ | Eulex, ok i selected disk writer plugin..and now?? |
| 22:01.56 | scratchi | Phat32: http://pastebin.ca/66982 |
| 22:02.10 | Eulex | du_, add the files, play them |
| 22:02.27 | kromagg | what format is .mpc? |
| 22:02.34 | scratchi | !mpc |
| 22:02.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, mpc is musepack, yet another audio compression routine. It's lgpl, and there's an xmms plugin and encode/decode utilities available - ask me about rarewares. |
| 22:02.35 | MetalWolf | scratchi |
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| 22:02.43 | MetalWolf | i think you could have been right with the problem |
| 22:02.43 | du_ | Eulex, ok!great!thanks |
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| 22:03.00 | scratchi | MetalWolf: I try to help you ;-) |
| 22:03.05 | kromagg | dpkg: what don't you know! |
| 22:03.20 | scratchi | kromagg: dpkg is an bot |
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| 22:03.29 | kromagg | scratchi: I know |
| 22:03.31 | MetalWolf | md module is in the kernel but the raid1 module isn't |
| 22:03.31 | Eulex | !what do you know? |
| 22:03.31 | dpkg | This! |
| 22:03.38 | kromagg | I was trying to be funny |
| 22:03.59 | scratchi | kromagg: Try /msg dpkg shit :-) |
| 22:04.10 | MetalWolf | I'll be back momentarily rebooting to see if its going to work |
| 22:04.13 | kromagg | hehe :) |
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| 22:04.41 | scratchi | kromagg: Now try it :-) |
| 22:04.53 | pinky | So I have a bunch of decrypted VOBs from video DVDs on my hard drive that I'd like to transcode to OGG/XviD OGM files... is there a consensus about what the most powerful/efficient tool to do this is? |
| 22:04.54 | scratchi | kromagg: I mean with you're fingers ;-) |
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| 22:05.44 | kromagg | no thank you |
| 22:05.45 | pinky | I have dvd::rip which I believe is a frontend for transcode... is this a good tool to accomplish encoding of VOBs to OGM files? |
| 22:05.57 | scratchi | acidrip, k9copy, |
| 22:06.30 | scratchi | pinky: qvamps, dvdrip |
| 22:06.56 | scratchi | pinky: I do it from DVD, i guess it's the same on local files |
| 22:07.02 | pinky | scratchi: By dvdrip do you mean dvd::rip? |
| 22:07.15 | kromagg | dvd::rip gets the job done too I guess |
| 22:07.16 | scratchi | pinky: The packages is dvdrip |
| 22:07.33 | pinky | Well I used acidrip to actually rip/decrypt the VOBs from the video DVD |
| 22:07.37 | scratchi | pinky: dvdrip == dvd::rip |
| 22:07.57 | pinky | But now that they are on my HDD I'm searching for the most feature rich tool to transcode them into OGM files |
| 22:08.01 | scratchi | Hehe, itchi is on #flightgear |
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| 22:08.19 | MetalWolf | didn't work :( |
| 22:08.20 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Good news? |
| 22:08.20 | pinky | Along with extensive guides (I want to read up on this a lot, but I want to read up on the right tool for the job) |
| 22:08.27 | scratchi | MetalWolf: aai |
| 22:08.38 | scratchi | MetalWolf: So it's been loaded at boot time? |
| 22:08.44 | MetalWolf | yes |
| 22:08.50 | MetalWolf | i assume thats what the plus means |
| 22:08.57 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Have you install the os on the RAID1 ? |
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| 22:09.05 | MetalWolf | no thankfully lol |
| 22:09.08 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Yes, that + |
| 22:09.09 | MetalWolf | its just an extra data drive |
| 22:09.26 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Eeuhm, try with an ext3 ?? |
| 22:09.50 | MetalWolf | well I don't really want to start wiping my already full data drive |
| 22:09.54 | scratchi | MetalWolf: If the os are not on the RAID1 it's not so complicated |
| 22:10.13 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Yes, i understand |
| 22:10.45 | scratchi | MetalWolf: I have begin with RAID1 after an HDD crash, so i know about loosing some data (and backup :-/) |
| 22:10.48 | MetalWolf | i mean i could delete the superblock copy the data and attempt to reassemble that way... but i really don't see why it wouldn't work with reiser |
| 22:11.24 | scratchi | MetalWolf: I'm not enought experienced with it to know about that :-/ |
| 22:11.53 | MetalWolf | i am wondering if i have enough space on another disk... |
| 22:12.16 | scratchi | MetalWolf: hhhmmm, it's best a bit bigger than to short :-/ |
| 22:12.55 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Or in case of, reseize to an lower size |
| 22:13.19 | MetalWolf | i don't have enough disk space on the other hard disk that sucks |
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| 22:13.34 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Caramba! |
| 22:14.47 | MetalWolf | soooo glad I kept my ubuntu install hard drive so i can switch out |
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| 22:15.58 | Trigger | can anyone recommend an irc proxy which is shipped with debian sarge? |
| 22:16.06 | MetalWolf | What i could do... is destroy the array... create an array with 1 disk and 1 missing disk |
| 22:16.14 | MetalWolf | copy all the data onto that |
| 22:16.30 | MetalWolf | and then add the extra disk and figure out how to force a sync |
| 22:16.36 | exlt | Trigger: irssi has a proxy |
| 22:17.06 | ricky_clarkson | How can I see whether I have hardware-supported OpenGL? |
| 22:17.07 | scratchi | MetalWolf: But if the disk are not the same size or that other > . You are going to troubles :-/ |
| 22:17.10 | Trigger | existx, ok - didn't use irssi before, but maybe i should check it out |
| 22:17.22 | scratchi | MetalWolf: I mean that the other are lesser |
| 22:17.28 | MetalWolf | the disks aren't 100% identical size |
| 22:17.33 | MetalWolf | but its worked for a long time |
| 22:17.49 | MetalWolf | I've had the array running since early 94 since i had a hard drive failure |
| 22:18.05 | MetalWolf | err 2004 |
| 22:18.06 | MetalWolf | sorry |
| 22:18.09 | scratchi | Trigger: Look to me, it's run in irssi and it's rocks ;-) |
| 22:18.09 | MetalWolf | not 94 lol |
| 22:19.02 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Yeah, i was going to ask you which brand of HDD. Looks rocks ;-) |
| 22:19.03 | MetalWolf | I've got a pair of matching 20 gig drives which i suppose I could use to test ext3 raid1 |
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| 22:19.05 | Trigger | scratchi, ok, just read a bit about it |
| 22:19.07 | Trigger | looks good |
| 22:19.21 | MetalWolf | lol I'm running a maxtor and a WD |
| 22:19.59 | Trigger | has irrsi irrsi-proxy (http://garion.org/irssi/irssi-proxy.php) included? |
| 22:20.06 | scratchi | MetalWolf: To be sure the are identically the same amount of bites. Some time 2 same HDD have not the same amounts of bits |
| 22:20.13 | scratchi | err |
| 22:20.26 | scratchi | bit, byte, baut, bad |
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| 22:21.02 | MetalWolf | no i know that... these don't match exactly but apparently cuz i asked a guy about this that it should work by taking the smaller size |
| 22:21.09 | MetalWolf | it tells u that when u use mdadm to create the array |
| 22:21.28 | scratchi | MetalWolf: |
| 22:21.30 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Yes, right |
| 22:21.32 | MetalWolf | and this array has worked under ubuntu and fedora well. |
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| 22:21.45 | miranda82 | hello, does anyone here know how to minimize 3d games? |
| 22:21.53 | scratchi | MetalWolf: It's os independend |
| 22:21.53 | miranda82 | like q3arena, enemyterritory.. |
| 22:22.24 | scratchi | miranda82: What mean you exactly? |
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| 22:22.52 | miranda82 | scratchi, once i started a game, i have to close it if i want to send an icq msg for example |
| 22:23.05 | scratchi | miranda82: alt+tab ?? |
| 22:23.07 | MetalWolf | I'm probably gonna order two bigger drives to replace these ones |
| 22:23.14 | miranda82 | scratchi, does not work |
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| 22:23.36 | scratchi | MetalWolf: I have buy 3 HDD of 80GB for 46 euro's pieces |
| 22:23.45 | exlt | miranda82: I would think that you would need to run them in non-full-screen mode |
| 22:24.05 | miranda82 | exlt, but there might be a way to do that trick, i hope... |
| 22:24.08 | miranda82 | sdl games |
| 22:24.15 | scratchi | MetalWolf: These days, it's realy no more expensif. If i look to my old big HDD of 10GB some years ago :-/ |
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| 22:25.11 | scratchi | miranda82: I think it's game dependent. Try fgfs, fullscreen leave you're taskbar etc.. |
| 22:26.02 | MetalWolf | its a 10gb hard drive that the OS is installed on lol |
| 22:26.34 | miranda82 | is there anyway i can usee an ebuild file? |
| 22:26.43 | MetalWolf | anyway need to get this resolved soon ish cuz I should be getting an old compaq server with either 4 or 6 scsi hard drives and I'll try raiding them with the OS on them |
| 22:26.43 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Some years ago, an 10 GB HDD was good to ruine you. No more money after buying it |
| 22:26.51 | JarJarBinks | when apt-get installing sometimes packages are suggested, how do I get the suggested packages displayed again, when I have already installed the package? |
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| 22:27.53 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: apt-cache show <pkg>?? |
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| 22:28.54 | JarJarBinks | scratchi: it shows which packages it depends on, but not suggested |
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| 22:29.16 | MetalWolf | interesting 16mb cache hard drives... |
| 22:29.18 | KaiSVK | how can I switch to runlevel3 ? |
| 22:29.24 | formorer | init 3 |
| 22:29.27 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: Look good to the line 'Suggests:' |
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| 22:29.31 | KaiSVK | it does nothing ... |
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| 22:29.56 | dbe | how can I figure out the cache for the processor? I can't find it in my BIOS |
| 22:30.04 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: Just below the 'Recommends:' |
| 22:30.36 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: There are better ways to get it. But this work to |
| 22:30.39 | formorer | KaiSVK: you know that in debian all runlevels are the same? |
| 22:30.40 | JarJarBinks | scratchi: apt-cache show wyrd | grep -i suggest | wc -l gives 0 |
| 22:30.56 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: Try it first without bla bla bla |
| 22:31.19 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: Its 'Suggests:' |
| 22:31.20 | JarJarBinks | scratchi: :) did it... just to be sure I couldn't read I grepped |
| 22:31.39 | ricky_clarkson | dbe: Guess: cat /proc/meminfo |
| 22:31.42 | KaiSVK | formorer, I dont ... |
| 22:31.45 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: With capital S |
| 22:31.46 | dbe | how can I list specification for the processor (Cache/bit/Mhz etc)? |
| 22:31.57 | KaiSVK | formorer, I wantet to install ati drivers |
| 22:32.00 | scratchi | dbe: /proc/cpu ?? |
| 22:32.12 | scratchi | KaiSVK: |
| 22:32.16 | dbe | scratchi, thank you |
| 22:32.16 | scratchi | oeps |
| 22:32.18 | JarJarBinks | scratchi: grep -i is case insensitive |
| 22:32.42 | formorer | KaiSVK: you don't need a different runlevel for it. in debian are all runlevels per default the same |
| 22:32.54 | formorer | KaiSVK: do you wan't to stop gdm? |
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| 22:33.55 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: Looks to http://pastebin.ca/66986 |
| 22:33.56 | DHX | iop |
| 22:33.59 | KaiSVK | formorer, I actually dont know ... cause I never installed ati on debian :) |
| 22:33.59 | JarJarBinks | scratchi: ok you are right using the package 'kde' as reference I do get Suggests, but appearently some packages does not list it there even if they do suggest other packages |
| 22:34.03 | vodkaabsolut | hi all |
| 22:34.21 | scratchi | JarJarBinks: hhhmmm, an hole |
| 22:34.55 | formorer | KaiSVK: I don't have a clue about non-free stuff, but I think there are debian packages for the fglrx stuff in non-free or so |
| 22:34.58 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Moment i want to show you an link i have use to setup my ATI Radeon 9600SE |
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| 22:35.26 | formorer | a 9600SE works fine with the free driver (and yes with 3D accleration) |
| 22:35.35 | KaiSVK | scratchi, ok ok ok :) |
| 22:36.21 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Looks to http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt and ask if you not understand |
| 22:36.57 | JarJarBinks | scratchi: thanks for you time and help... I'll just remove it and install it again :( |
| 22:37.03 | KaiSVK | scratchi, thanx :) |
| 22:37.04 | scratchi | formorer: It was not the case here. Everything but not 3D i could get it running with the non-free. Need that closed one :-/ |
| 22:37.35 | kronoz | the testing weekly builds are on tuesday, i am right? |
| 22:37.55 | scratchi | KaiSVK: It's looks complicate, but it's easy to do. So ask in case of ;-) |
| 22:38.05 | kronoz | *am i |
| 22:38.06 | vodkaabsolut | how can i avoid that certain modules(proviusly loaded with modconf) are loaded at startup??? |
| 22:38.09 | formorer | scratchi: what do you mean? the 9600 is a rv300 chipset which works with x.org 6.9 with 3D acceleration and also vga out |
| 22:38.20 | formorer | vodkaabsolut: remove them out of /etc/modules |
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| 22:38.30 | scratchi | formorer: I mean without the non-free. Sorry i have not get my cup of coffee |
| 22:38.35 | dbe | scratchi, how can I figure out if it is Hyperthreading (HT) or not? |
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| 22:38.41 | freeone3000 | Where are my system startup scripts? |
| 22:38.43 | scratchi | formorer: hhhmm, with xfree |
| 22:38.55 | formorer | scratchi: ok, you need x.org for 3D |
| 22:38.58 | vodkaabsolut | forcemaster: ok, so modconf dont do that with its scripts? |
| 22:39.00 | formorer | freeone3000: /etc/init.d |
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| 22:39.10 | freeone3000 | formorer: Thank you. |
| 22:39.17 | scratchi | formorer: Yeah, but with the non-free it's work on Xfree :-) |
| 22:39.23 | formorer | vodkaabsolut: thats the one modconf writes |
| 22:39.39 | formorer | scratchi: I prefer not to use non-free drivers |
| 22:39.44 | scratchi | formorer: Not ask me why i have not upgraded :-/ I'm to complicated :-) |
| 22:39.49 | freeone3000 | Er. I can't change it? |
| 22:40.05 | vodkaabsolut | forcemaster: yeah, but when i uload a module with modconf ... it comes up again after a reboot |
| 22:40.08 | freeone3000 | Oh. Duh. Vim is smarter than me. |
| 22:40.09 | formorer | freeone3000: what about being root? |
| 22:40.23 | formorer | vodkaabsolut: then it gets automically loaded via udev |
| 22:40.29 | formorer | vodkaabsolut: they have to be blacklistet |
| 22:40.30 | freeone3000 | formorer: I was root, I just used 'vim /etc/init.d', which opened up the directory listing. Sorry. |
| 22:40.32 | scratchi | formorer: Yeah, but i wanted to get it working without, screw on the left and right :-/ I had an need to get it working with xfree. So that i'm sure it's been working with xfree ;-) |
| 22:40.58 | dbe | scratchi, any idea? |
| 22:41.00 | vodkaabsolut | formorer: k, i got it.. i'll investigate more with google . Thanks |
| 22:41.08 | JarJarBinks | scratchi: the explanation was: wyrd depends on remind, so remind is installed, and remind suggests some packages... --- I should have thought of that ... thanks again |
| 22:41.40 | formorer | vodkaabsolut: look at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist for a example |
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| 22:41.56 | scratchi | !Hyperthreading |
| 22:41.57 | dpkg | it has been said that hyperthreading is An Intel P4 feature, you need an ACPI (as opposed to APIC) enabled kernel for this to work |
| 22:41.57 | jetscreamer | liable: pong |
| 22:42.04 | scratchi | I'm running on an AMD :-/ |
| 22:42.20 | formorer | scratchi: amd has no HT |
| 22:42.24 | scratchi | dbe: I not know :-( |
| 22:42.32 | dbe | scarface, ok, thank you anyway |
| 22:42.43 | scratchi | formorer: Yeah, that's why i can not help 'dbe' :-/ |
| 22:43.28 | formorer | dbe: do you wan't to know it ht is working, or if you cpu has HT capabilities? |
| 22:43.53 | dbe | forcemaster, if my cpu has HT capabilities |
| 22:43.53 | KaiSVK | scratchi, with configure X u mean ... aticonfig --inital ? |
| 22:44.15 | formorer | dbe: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags |
| 22:44.27 | formorer | dbe: ht should be listed there |
| 22:44.32 | freeone3000 | What does /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq do? mplayer says it needs 1024 echod to it... |
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| 22:44.53 | dbe | forcemaster, thank you, and how do I know if it is working or not? |
| 22:45.07 | scratchi | KaiSVK: X, you're 'xfree86' or 'xorg' |
| 22:45.09 | dbe | scratchi, what does AMD using instead of HT? |
| 22:45.18 | KaiSVK | scratchi, xorg |
| 22:45.56 | formorer | dbe: my name is formorer. also cat /proc/cpuinfo, if you have 2x of your physical cpus listed you have HT working |
| 22:46.06 | formorer | dbe: you need an smp enabled kernel for that |
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| 22:47.00 | cds | When I run gtk-theme-switch I get boxes rather than fonts - any way I can rese the default? |
| 22:47.09 | cds | Or to default, rather. |
| 22:48.05 | dbe | formorer, "if you have 2x of your physical cpus listed you have HT working" - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LzmM2n24.html what should I grep? |
| 22:48.14 | amphi | cds: pick fonts blindly til you get one that works, or delete ~/.gtkrc and/or ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 22:48.14 | Joint | abrotman: you there? |
| 22:48.36 | formorer | dbe: read it! you have 2 cpus there (processor: 0 and processor: 1) |
| 22:48.41 | cds | amphi: Cheers. |
| 22:49.03 | KaiSVK | scratchi, how do I check if I installed it correctly ? |
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| 22:49.17 | amphi | cds: if you have bitstream vera fonts installed, clicking blindly near the top of the font list should work |
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| 22:49.33 | dbe | formorer, ok, so one of them if the HT which is not enabled |
| 22:49.40 | Joint | abrotman: can you help me now? |
| 22:49.43 | formorer | dbe: what? |
| 22:49.44 | Joint | to set up my wireless card, |
| 22:49.49 | Joint | i can't get it to worked |
| 22:50.04 | scratchi | KaiSVK: with 'glxinfo' |
| 22:50.42 | abrotman | Joint: huh ? |
| 22:50.57 | Joint | remember me i was the one having issued, with, my wireless card, |
| 22:50.58 | KaiSVK | scratchi, command not found ... |
| 22:51.19 | Joint | i can't get it to worked, is a prism54 |
| 22:51.22 | abrotman | Joint: i rmember .. prism54.org |
| 22:51.31 | abrotman | er .. just prism54 .. no .org |
| 22:51.31 | Joint | i already have the drivers, |
| 22:51.37 | abrotman | ok .. so load them |
| 22:51.39 | Joint | and it doesnt work i get errors |
| 22:51.45 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Try glx-tab (where tab is that tabulation key) |
| 22:51.53 | scratchi | KaiSVK: err |
| 22:52.01 | Joint | eth1: interface reset failure |
| 22:52.01 | Joint | prism54: Your card/socket may be faulty, or IRQ line too busy :( |
| 22:52.01 | Joint | SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted |
| 22:52.04 | scratchi | KaiSVK: glxTAB |
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| 22:52.14 | Joint | that's what i get when i started to start it up |
| 22:52.23 | cds | amphi: he default will suffice, I guess... |
| 22:52.34 | cds | amphi: Very blocky though. |
| 22:52.41 | cds | amphi: hank-s. |
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| 22:53.09 | KaiSVK | scratchi, noooo ... I know ... but its not there ... |
| 22:53.11 | Joint | any ideas abrotman |
| 22:53.29 | abrotman | oh .. maybe something else is using the card? |
| 22:53.34 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I should restart shouldnt I after the installation of ati ? |
| 22:53.34 | KaiSVK | :)_ |
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| 22:53.47 | Joint | how can i double check? |
| 22:53.50 | Joint | if someone is using it, |
| 22:54.02 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Yeah, restart x. But the command are already there. Strange |
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| 22:54.13 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I dont have it ... |
| 22:54.34 | EvilSporkMan | how do i back up my entire reiserfs root permission (including /dev, if necessary), preserving permissions and owning users? |
| 22:54.35 | scratchi | Joint: You give to less info, you give him pain on his head :-/ |
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| 22:55.03 | scratchi | KaiSVK: aaa, bwa, anotherway is to play a game :-) |
| 22:55.04 | EvilSporkMan | i tried using tar in knoppix but apparently a) it doesn't do device files correctly (?) and b) it makes the knoppix user own everything not owned by rot |
| 22:55.15 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I am trying to install one :) |
| 22:55.20 | adrakoa | hi |
| 22:55.34 | EvilSporkMan | i intend to repartition after taking this backup and i don't want to actually reinstall |
| 22:55.36 | Joint | scratchi: huh |
| 22:55.41 | scratchi | KaiSVK: foobillard for example |
| 22:56.41 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I installed tremulous ... and as it start it wrote that I have mesa ... :/ could not load OpenGL :{ |
| 22:56.44 | Joint | how can i see who's using my card abrotman |
| 22:57.01 | abrotman | lsof .. fuser ? .. dmesg ? |
| 22:57.12 | Joint | im a little new |
| 22:57.17 | Joint | so i will do lsof |
| 22:57.32 | dbe | how do I list the specifications for the graphic card? |
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| 22:57.35 | scratchi | KaiSVK: I guess you need to setup Xorg to load the good module, no mesa,vesa,... and dri |
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| 22:58.27 | scratchi | KaiSVK: I guess you're runnin Etch?? Right? |
| 22:58.34 | KaiSVK | scratchi, right :) |
| 22:58.54 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Try fgfs :-) |
| 22:58.54 | Joint | darn it i've been trying to get this card working for hours, |
| 22:58.56 | Joint | and no luck |
| 22:59.21 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I remember that in the Section Device in SuSE was Driver "fglrx" and now in Debian it is "ati" I wil try to change that |
| 22:59.27 | scratchi | KaiSVK: There are so many games to cite :-/ |
| 22:59.45 | KaiSVK | scratchi, what is fgfs ? |
| 22:59.50 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Yeah, you need to do it |
| 23:00.20 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Flight Gear Flight Simulator |
| 23:00.22 | KaiSVK | scratchi, what about drm module ? :_ |
| 23:00.32 | scratchi | KaiSVK: And dri |
| 23:00.47 | KaiSVK | scratchi, dri is there by default ... |
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| 23:01.30 | EvilSporkMan | better question: do i need to backup anything in /dev if i'm running udev? .static and .initramfs look fishy |
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| 23:01.43 | scratchi | !drm |
| 23:01.44 | dpkg | it has been said that drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Restrictions Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp |
| 23:01.49 | KaiSVK | scratchi, hmmm ... no X server now ... when I set driver fglrx |
| 23:01.55 | epsilon | shell sctipt question: I have an html file, which contains <a href...> links pointing on several PDf files. How can I extract all the filenames from the html code, so I can use wget to fetch the files? |
| 23:02.17 | DerJamster | epsilon: you can have wget just fetch all links |
| 23:02.21 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Look to the log file of xorg, he will tell you why |
| 23:02.45 | MetalWolf | does linux make use of the cache on hard drives? |
| 23:03.24 | epsilon | DerJamster: I thought of that, but I want to separate the script parsing the html and wget |
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| 23:04.38 | scratchi | MetalWolf: On HDD there are onboard cache |
| 23:05.04 | MetalWolf | yeah i know trying to decide if its worth paying the extra to go to 16mb cache from 8 |
| 23:05.23 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Crazy guy :-p |
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| 23:05.30 | mick_work | I came across something really weird... I have somehow only capitol letters on my screen... everything that I see/type is uppercase (no this is not a capslock issue) |
| 23:05.49 | mick_work | I see: USERNAME@HOST:~$ LS |
| 23:05.57 | scratchi | MetalWolf: 8 are already very great, how more, how better, that's sure |
| 23:06.01 | mick_work | and it lists everything (like `ls` would do) |
| 23:06.12 | mick_work | my motd was even all caps |
| 23:07.21 | scratchi | MetalWolf: These i have buy are of 8 mb |
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| 23:07.58 | MetalWolf | yeah my 120's are 8mb |
| 23:08.11 | MetalWolf | seagate just released 16's |
| 23:08.26 | Rockj | mick_work: You've logged in with your username in capitol letters. Atleast it happends on my server if I do that. |
| 23:08.41 | scratchi | MetalWolf: New things are not always good. Most time, it's crap when it's new :-/ |
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| 23:09.00 | DerJamster | epsilon: tough taco then. a mixture of sed and cut should help, tho don't ask me about details..1 am here ;P |
| 23:09.09 | scratchi | MetalWolf: I mean, most time there are some little troubles with new things |
| 23:09.19 | MetalWolf | I won't be ordering for a few weeks anyway |
| 23:09.39 | MetalWolf | just trying to find all the storage I Can to back up my raid |
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| 23:10.06 | scratchi | MetalWolf: Yeah, you need to make an choice |
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| 23:11.30 | mick_work | Rockj: aaah |
| 23:11.33 | mick_work | that could be |
| 23:11.36 | mick_work | interesting |
| 23:11.59 | mick_work | I never knew that |
| 23:12.11 | mick_work | Rockj: thanks |
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| 23:13.54 | marco13185 | I'm trying to install vmware, but I get this error: Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "4.0.4", while you are trying to use"/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.1.2". |
| 23:14.13 | marco13185 | how do I make it use gcc4.0.4 |
| 23:14.34 | Eulex | CC=gcc-4.0 |
| 23:14.41 | scratchi | marco13185: Which version of vmware ? |
| 23:14.48 | marco13185 | scratchi, Vmware server |
| 23:15.17 | scratchi | marco13185: I mean v.1.2.3.4.5.6 |
| 23:15.19 | marco13185 | Eulex, I do that in bash or as an option to the script |
| 23:15.39 | Eulex | marco13185, CC=gcc-4.0 command |
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| 23:17.49 | marco13185 | Eulex, weird, but I get this error: /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/Makefile:89: *** Inappropriate build environment: you wanted to use gcc version 4.0.4 while kernel attempts to use gcc version 4.1.2. |
| 23:19.23 | marco13185 | scratchi, Vmware server is a new product, this is the beta for version 1 |
| 23:20.13 | scratchi | marco13185: The server i have never test it on an gnu box |
| 23:20.16 | Eulex | marco13185, hmm, sorry, I dunno :/ |
| 23:20.34 | KaiSVK | scratchi, when I set up fglrx as a driver in log is fglrx module does not exist |
| 23:20.42 | marco13185 | Eulex, I'm gonna force it to use the 4.1.2, heh, it gives me the option not to heed the warning |
| 23:20.50 | Eulex | marco13185, heh, ok |
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| 23:21.05 | marco13185 | Eulex, if anything, that module simply won't work, right? |
| 23:21.16 | scratchi | KaiSVK: That are some packages that i had need to install it's looks |
| 23:21.24 | marco13185 | I mean, using the wrong compiler won't fuck up my install will it? |
| 23:21.34 | KaiSVK | scratchi, what are their names ;)_ |
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| 23:21.59 | Eulex | marco13185, I don't think so |
| 23:22.21 | scratchi | KaiSVK: have you follow the steps of http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt These procedure build you're own deb files of glrx |
| 23:22.36 | MetalWolf | bye folks |
| 23:22.37 | KaiSVK | scratchi, yes I followed |
| 23:22.47 | KaiSVK | ok ... I will try it tomorrow :) |
| 23:22.54 | scratchi | KaiSVK: And have you install the fglrx deb files ?? |
| 23:23.02 | KaiSVK | thanx and GN then ... I will try to google once more ... |
| 23:23.05 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I have ... |
| 23:23.17 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Sure ?? |
| 23:23.21 | KaiSVK | I miss the command aticonfig --initial |
| 23:23.36 | scratchi | KaiSVK: As root? |
| 23:23.50 | KaiSVK | both ... |
| 23:24.00 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Bwa, yeah, as normal user i get it |
| 23:24.18 | KaiSVK | scratchi, what u get ? :)_ |
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| 23:24.55 | Nach | is there an easy way to edit a deb file to change where it installs the files to, and perhaps remove some of the files? |
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| 23:25.16 | scratchi | KaiSVK: I mean that as normal user you can access aticonfig |
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| 23:25.41 | heh_v_water | finally i found out hwy my php wasn't working from etch.. not sure if this is a bug or not but when i installed php4-mysql it didn't enable the mysql extension in the php.ini.. |
| 23:25.42 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I cant ... either as root either as normal user... |
| 23:26.00 | scratchi | KaiSVK: You're missing somethings |
| 23:26.11 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I am sure ... |
| 23:26.39 | scratchi | KaiSVK: I have 6 packages about fglrx installed |
| 23:27.29 | scratchi | KaiSVK: 'aticonf' is in the 'fglrx-driver' package |
| 23:27.43 | seb- | what field in reverse DNS system stores hostname? |
| 23:28.13 | scratchi | Nach: Take some deb files an look you'reself how its made. That's the best way. Hacking |
| 23:28.13 | KaiSVK | scratchi, something is terrible wrong :) |
| 23:28.43 | Nach | scratchi, I have no idea how they're made, is there a guide up somewhere? |
| 23:29.10 | heh_v_water | seb-, PTR records do reverse to a host |
| 23:29.21 | scratchi | Nach: yeah, '/msg dpkg grounding', '/msg dpkg ref' |
| 23:30.04 | Nach | scratchi, thank you |
| 23:30.08 | scratchi | Nach: You know how to play with the bot dpkg i guess |
| 23:30.15 | scratchi | Nach: ;-) |
| 23:30.16 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I am terribly sorry :) I havent installed the driver .... what does is do when I write dpkg name_of_it without -i ? |
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| 23:30.40 | Nach | oh nice alien is smart enough that it fixed the paths itself |
| 23:30.43 | scratchi | KaiSVK: He install that deb file |
| 23:30.47 | seb- | heh_v_water: thanks...is PTR is a special record type like A, MX, NS ? |
| 23:31.00 | scratchi | Nach: Yeah, that's way alien are been for :-) |
| 23:31.09 | scratchi | s/way/why |
| 23:31.36 | heh_v_water | seb-, exactly.. |
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| 23:32.04 | scratchi | KaiSVK: So for each deb file you have created there, you need to install it. Example 'dpkg -i fglrx-driver'. There are 6 debs |
| 23:32.07 | seb- | heh_v_water: yea, A records go in the wrong direction so i thought someone had to invest an "inverse A" record :) |
| 23:32.13 | heh_v_water | seb-, PTR records are used in reverse zones.. they don't reside in the forward zone with the forward records |
| 23:32.24 | seb- | heh_v_water: makes sense...thanks |
| 23:32.39 | heh_v_water | seb-, anytime |
| 23:33.28 | heh_v_water | seb- reverse DNS does NOT work with your outside ip address from your server though.. if you are looking for reverse DNS to your internet IP you have to ask your ISP to do that |
| 23:34.04 | Nach | hmm alien setup some of these paths weird though... |
| 23:34.07 | scratchi | KaiSVK: After that you need to restart x i think |
| 23:34.27 | scratchi | Nach: Which app? |
| 23:34.43 | Nach | scarface, DJGPP cross compiler |
| 23:35.33 | DHX | bonne nuit |
| 23:36.24 | scratchi | Nach: Argh, for some things it's best to take an version that are 100% for you're distro. I not know about DJGPP. But wikipedia give me some things |
| 23:37.03 | Nach | scratchi, I once found an RPM that when alien'd transfered perfectly to Debian for DJGPP |
| 23:37.18 | Nach | but I've been searching for a while now, and can't find anything decent lately |
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| 23:39.27 | linux_user400354 | does apt-get have a log of packages that were installed? |
| 23:39.28 | scratchi | KaiSVK: Done? |
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| 23:41.41 | blakkino | linux_user400354, /var/log/dpkg.log ? |
| 23:42.08 | scratchi | Some time i'm blind :-/ |
| 23:43.02 | Joint | gaslion |
| 23:43.16 | Nach | linux_user400354, with apt-get you have access right off the bat to several thousand packages |
| 23:43.20 | Joint | swhy |
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| 23:45.56 | linux_user400354 | Nach, I'm trying to find the log of all the packages I installed so I can remove them |
| 23:46.45 | Eulex | linux_user400354, stable/testing/unstable? |
| 23:46.59 | KaiSVK | scratchi, have problems with installing it ... it wrote something about Xorg < 7.0.99 |
| 23:47.03 | Nach | linux_user400354, you could look in /etc/apt/cache/archives |
| 23:47.25 | KaiSVK | scratchi, I tried force ... but then I have som problems with kernel module building ... |
| 23:47.35 | Nach | Sorry it's /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 23:47.56 | ice_1963 | that will work :) |
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| 23:48.49 | scratchi | KaiSVK: What problem exactly |
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| 23:52.15 | scratchi | Good night guys, it's again 02:00 AM here |
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| 23:52.57 | KaiSVK | scratchi, GN ... thanx for help ... I will try it again ... tomorrow .... still I like debian |
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