| 00:00.06 | evaded | Arg, i have an old computer here... for replacement an P1 :-) i not know what i go to do |
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| 00:01.01 | evaded | beardy: hhmm that looks good with that floppy |
| 00:01.08 | romulo | hi, how i prevent one module from loading automatically on pre-built kernels? |
| 00:01.14 | evaded | first need to find an old hdd ... :-( |
| 00:01.22 | Supaplex | romulo: blacklist it. (or gzip the module) |
| 00:01.29 | stew | romulo: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 00:01.30 | beardy | !blacklist |
| 00:01.30 | dpkg | blacklist is probably Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 00:01.31 | evaded | I think i have an old < 2GB here |
| 00:01.31 | romulo | hmm how to blacklist it? |
| 00:01.34 | romulo | ok |
| 00:01.34 | romulo | thanks |
| 00:01.51 | shogunx | !udev |
| 00:01.51 | dpkg | methinks udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
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| 00:02.50 | jelly-ho | is there an etch d-i image available somewhere? |
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| 00:02.59 | MatBoy | stew, sorry no enlightenment for me... I have to figure out why my MousePoint dissapears on my Xinerama screens :) |
| 00:03.01 | beardy | evaded: But, you said it was a P2, why can't you run a livecd on that? As long as it has a cd-drive, you can. |
| 00:03.08 | beardy | evaded: (and it can boot from it) |
| 00:03.12 | Supaplex | jelly-ho: they are built nightly iirc |
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| 00:03.49 | Supaplex | I think it's just a click or two away from the stable d-i pages. |
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| 00:04.20 | evaded | beardy: I not know why, he have 150MB of RAM, so normally ... But i try it again. First coffee and eat a bit because i was going to sleep |
| 00:04.26 | jelly-ho | indeed |
| 00:04.42 | adrakoa | bye |
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| 00:07.43 | inazad_ | Anyone can help me about my nividia tv out ? |
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| 00:10.21 | beardy | evaded: Don't let it run any X, if it does that. |
| 00:10.41 | shogunx | hmm. debian kernel 2.6.15-486-1 finds my dwl-650 wifi card no problem, and loads hostap_cs. i built a 2.6.16, all the modules are there, udev finds a card at pcmcia0.0, but hostap_cs does not load. anyone see what I am missing? |
| 00:11.09 | evaded | beardy: There are X on it installed, but it not run, just in case of, that do my thiking that i need to remove it. Like i can work in the cli now |
| 00:11.15 | shogunx | the only significant difference i see between the kernels is no initrd on the one i built. |
| 00:11.59 | inazad_ | Anyone can help me about my nividia tv out ? |
| 00:12.05 | evaded | beardy: I search for an partitionering tool, but that typo errno :-/ |
| 00:12.32 | shogunx | anyone, anyone? |
| 00:13.25 | pingouin | shogunx: did you tried to load it by hand ? |
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| 00:13.36 | evaded | beardy: An tool to work with the partitions, how call we that agian? Partitionering tools? Not right and dict not help me. :-/ |
| 00:13.42 | shogunx | pingouin, yep. module loads but no wlan0 created. |
| 00:13.47 | pingouin | shogunx: or use modconf to see if the module you've mentioned is present |
| 00:14.05 | shogunx | pingouin, i built it. its there for sure. |
| 00:14.16 | pingouin | shogunx: modconf |
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| 00:14.56 | pingouin | shogunx: it's not a discovery for you if i say : something missing....in you're kernel |
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| 00:15.04 | pingouin | shogunx: but..what... |
| 00:15.10 | evaded | beardy: like cfdisk, i have find the apss ;-) I want to look a bit because it's look that that old HDD is an 2GB and that i have only use 512MB of it, bwa no more matters now, like he is dead |
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| 00:15.46 | shogunx | pingouin, right... something amiss with the kernel. i tried building hostap, yenta, etc statically also. no dice. |
| 00:15.55 | crschmidt | I'm attempting to debuild a package, and it dies in debsign because I don't have the private key... |
| 00:16.02 | crschmidt | is that the way that's supposed to happen? |
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| 00:16.11 | shogunx | pingouin, unless there is a function in the ramdisk that i am not replicating. |
| 00:16.58 | pingouin | shogunx: really..i dont know...i dont use initrd stuff |
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| 00:17.22 | myren | whats the proper format for $EMAIL? |
| 00:17.25 | pingouin | shogunx: did you build you're wifi stuffs in modules ? or static ? maybe..try to do so |
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| 00:17.36 | myren | myren <myren@foobar.com> or myren@foobar.com (myren) or other? |
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| 00:17.54 | SimonRaven | crschmidt: no. you specify the key. -k |
| 00:18.24 | shogunx | pingouin, me either, actually, with the initrd. built both ways. the issue is somehow when udev picks up the hotplug functions. |
| 00:18.42 | shogunx | static or module same result. |
| 00:19.05 | crschmidt | SimonRaven: debuild -k"Christopher Schmidt <crschmidt@crschmidt.net" like? |
| 00:19.09 | crschmidt | or something different? |
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| 00:19.36 | unstable | What is a program for me to get a lot information about a video file?(cli program) |
| 00:19.40 | aaroncalderon | hi. help with the bootloader please... |
| 00:19.45 | abrotman | unstable: file ? |
| 00:19.55 | unstable | abrotman: eh, not good enough |
| 00:19.59 | SimonRaven | crschmidt: keyid |
| 00:20.45 | crschmidt | SimonRaven: debuild -kA1E26B58 |
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| 00:23.58 | Tarantulafudge | what can I install so I know how much bandwidth I use? |
| 00:24.29 | jlamr | Does anyone know how to add a line to modules.conf. the file itself says not to manually add them.... |
| 00:24.55 | abrotman | Tarantulafudge: use how? for how long? |
| 00:24.58 | aaroncalderon | How can I setup the bootloader to boot diferent distros? I use one /home partition and one "/" partition for every distro... |
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| 00:25.11 | Tarantulafudge | abrotman: so I know how much bw i use each month |
| 00:25.26 | abrotman | Tarantulafudge: i'm sure there are packages for that |
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| 00:25.42 | aaroncalderon | how do I point the bootloader to the right place? |
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| 00:25.59 | abrotman | Tarantulafudge: hey .. you started the vagueness |
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| 00:26.26 | Agentj87 | hi |
| 00:26.59 | Agentj87 | can anyone help me, im tryin to make a torrent with "maketorrent" but i dont know the command line |
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| 00:28.22 | Tarantulafudge | found vnstat |
| 00:29.07 | krnl`- | hi |
| 00:29.13 | abrotman | yay .. the power of apt-cache search :) |
| 00:31.34 | Jimerson | Can someone direct me to a guide on how to add websites? |
| 00:32.20 | evaded | Jimerson: What mean you exaclty? |
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| 00:32.53 | Inazad | Anyone can help me with nvtv ? |
| 00:32.59 | Jimerson | evaded I do not have a control panel on this server, and I need to learn how to add a website, emails ftp accounts stuff like that. |
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| 00:33.33 | evaded | Jimerson: You meand that you need some references? Like the webisite of 'tldp' and the references of Debian? |
| 00:33.41 | evaded | !tldp |
| 00:33.41 | dpkg | from memory, tldp is The Linux Documentation Project at http://www.tldp.org |
| 00:33.54 | evaded | Jimerson: But you also need the references of Debian |
| 00:34.02 | evaded | !tell Jimerson about ref |
| 00:34.14 | evaded | Jimerson: Look to what dpkg told you |
| 00:34.21 | Jimerson | Ok. |
| 00:34.40 | Jimerson | Thank you very much. |
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| 00:34.46 | evaded | I have also some interesants links for you, moment |
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| 00:35.11 | Jimerson | Feel free to pm :) |
| 00:35.26 | evaded | Jimerson: http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/guicms/html/pages/index.php?pidtitle=good_stuff_to_read |
| 00:36.08 | Jimerson | one more question if you don't mind? |
| 00:37.02 | evaded | Strange i got now the same strange noise on another HDD :-( |
| 00:37.07 | evaded | crap crap crap |
| 00:37.22 | evaded | On another computer, crap |
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| 00:38.08 | evaded | Jimerson: Ask |
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| 00:39.15 | Jimerson | I installed mrtg using apt-get |
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| 00:39.29 | Jimerson | However in the mrtg folder all that is in there is 4 images. |
| 00:39.42 | Jimerson | Do I need to run a config file or something after running apt-get? |
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| 00:39.51 | Jimerson | I could not find any directions for running it that way. |
| 00:40.08 | aaroncalderon | how do I setup the bootloader to recognize another installation? |
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| 00:40.38 | burd | I have debian installed on a USb hard drive with grub as the bootloader. I want to use this on other machines at times and they don't support USb booting is there a way to create a cd that will boo tthe usb installed debian? |
| 00:40.39 | evaded | Jimerson: You need to look to the informations that are provided with that package. So you need to locate where the stuff of that package are installed 'dpkg -l <package>' |
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| 00:41.12 | evaded | aaroncalderon: Depend of the bootloader you use! Read the doc of you're bootloader :-/ |
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| 00:42.08 | pop_korn | hi |
| 00:42.19 | evaded | pop_korn: Hello |
| 00:42.54 | pop_korn | i need small && console util for write some music on cd ... plz help |
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| 00:43.03 | aaroncalderon | evaded: i remember that the installer gave me two options. I think it was Grub and Lilo. Is the default bootloader for Debian Grub? |
| 00:43.36 | Jimerson | evaded thanks |
| 00:43.58 | evaded | aaroncalderon: Lilo and Grub Yes, depend of the case. If you have M$. But if you want you can use another one |
| 00:44.07 | aaroncalderon | evaded: ok found it Grub. thanks |
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| 00:45.33 | stew | pop_korn: cdrdao |
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| 00:46.28 | zamaliphe | #flood iam running debian on a usb hard drive and have grub working fine on there. Sometimes I will want to take my drive with me and boot other systems that may not support USB booting. I tried creating a boot cd and it works to a certain extent. After it grabs the initrd image it dies saying device is not readable or somethign to that effect. Anyhow is what I am attempting possible? and if so is there a howto somewhere I can read? |
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| 00:47.09 | ongeboren | how the hell is it possible to terminate the evolution data server process ? it's like a virus.. kill -9 kill -15 kill -11 just restarts it ?!? |
| 00:47.26 | abrotman | kill the PPID?? |
| 00:47.28 | dondelelcaro | ongeboren: something is restarting it; try killing evolution itself. |
| 00:47.30 | evaded | zamaliphe: Try you to boot with 'knoppix' or so?? |
| 00:47.57 | ongeboren | that's what i'm doing |
| 00:48.17 | dondelelcaro | ongeboren: then find the parent pid. |
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| 00:48.31 | ongeboren | there isn't |
| 00:48.47 | pilgrim | What's the packagename for imagemajick in debian? |
| 00:48.50 | dondelelcaro | ongeboren: give us the full ps axfu; output, and the output after killall -9 evolution; |
| 00:48.54 | dondelelcaro | pilgrim: imagemagick |
| 00:49.00 | pilgrim | LOL |
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| 00:49.01 | _ericb | hi all |
| 00:49.02 | dondelelcaro | !tell pilgrim -about search |
| 00:49.03 | pilgrim | thanks |
| 00:49.09 | ongeboren | http://pastebin.com/682127 |
| 00:49.12 | myren | whats the proper syntax for the $EMAIL env-var? |
| 00:49.13 | ongeboren | see for yourself |
| 00:49.26 | dondelelcaro | myren: as interpreted by what? |
| 00:49.36 | dondelelcaro | ongeboren: that's not what I asked for. |
| 00:49.49 | myren | uhhh, frak? |
| 00:49.52 | dondelelcaro | ongeboren: the 'f' in that request is key; and I didn't ask for it grep'ed, either. |
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| 00:49.56 | myren | darcs, & mutt i ugess |
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| 00:50.51 | ongeboren | i'm not disclosing private information about the processes running on my mashine, be more specific |
| 00:50.56 | dondelelcaro | myren: mutt just uses EMAIL as is as the default value for from. |
| 00:51.30 | abrotman | ongeboren: if i show you mine .. willl you show us yours? :) |
| 00:51.41 | dondelelcaro | ongeboren: you're asking for support here; we need to know exactly what the parent process is of evolution; only the ps axfu; output will show that. |
| 00:52.14 | dondelelcaro | (assuming of course that it hasn't called setsession, in which case, we won't be able to tell...) |
| 00:52.21 | ongeboren | ps axfu shows this line: null 10839 0.2 1.4 74000 7728 ? Sl 02:47 0:00 /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-1.4 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_DataServer_CalFactory:1.4 --oaf-ior-fd=53 |
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| 00:52.25 | ongeboren | no parent |
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| 00:53.23 | dondelelcaro | ongeboren: and you're running oaf? |
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| 00:54.38 | Supaplex | mmm pstree |
| 00:54.41 | ongeboren | there are a bunch of processes containing --oaf-activate-iid= , as of 'oaf' itself.. it tells me nothing |
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| 00:55.03 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; welcome to the hell that is gnome. |
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| 00:57.13 | myren | how do i test mail relaying? |
| 00:57.18 | Turophile | Guys, this might sound a little odd (ok, a fair bit), but I've just setup a Debian box and I upgraded to kernel 2.6.8-3-k7 (Athlon XP2000+ CPU) and my network interfaces don't appear to work. However, they function fine in the standard net-install kernel (2.4.27-2). Is there any reason for this? I've tried modprobing but I can't get it to work. |
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| 00:58.35 | dn4 | so what types of jobs are there in the job market for linux educated fools |
| 00:58.39 | Turophile | myren: I'm not sure I'm giving the right answer, but if you mean checking the server is working it might be worth a shot with telnetting to the port doing a login/password and sending to itself? |
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| 00:59.25 | freeone3000 | artsdsp error: cpu overload, aborting. I gather this is bad. |
| 00:59.32 | sharpy | how can I install KDE modules in the control center: samba and file sharing in debian? |
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| 01:03.52 | cheal | sharpy: ask #debian-kde |
| 01:03.57 | sharpy | cheal, okies.. |
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| 01:05.15 | shogunx | dn4 sysadmins, developers, security. lots of things. |
| 01:05.44 | abrotman | you can be bruce perens and be the OSS advocate at HP :) |
| 01:06.51 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: he's the Linux CTO, actually. |
| 01:07.17 | dn4 | shogunx, where is the application line for linux audio development |
| 01:07.32 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: not anymore AFAIK |
| 01:07.36 | dondelelcaro | dn4: just start working |
| 01:07.41 | damog | I want to record a talk show, what software do you guys recommend to give a try? |
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| 01:08.02 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: oh, crap. I meant Bdale Garbee, not Bruce Perens. (Sorry for the insult, bdale) |
| 01:08.02 | abrotman | !info vsound sarge |
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| 01:08.08 | dpkg | vsound: (Virtual loopback sound recorder and real audio converter), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.6-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
| 01:08.21 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: bdale still works at HP? |
| 01:08.22 | damog | :) |
| 01:09.28 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: he was the last time I checked |
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| 01:12.59 | LoneWlf794 | How do I deal with parted RAR files in ARK? |
| 01:15.29 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: you don't? You use unrar instead? |
| 01:15.47 | LoneWlf794 | Okay, thank you. |
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| 01:16.02 | freeone3000 | I assume that artsdsp killing itself due to cpu overload is bad? |
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| 01:18.55 | freeone3000 | How would I forcibly remove a lot? |
| 01:18.56 | abrotman | freeone3000: and process killing itself like that is probably bad |
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| 01:19.06 | abrotman | a lot of what? |
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| 01:19.34 | evaded | LoneWlf794: BTW there is 'unp' |
| 01:20.01 | pixolet | freeone3000, you mean kill the other artsd processes? |
| 01:20.21 | jazbo2185 | burn-configure is asking me "Which is the device of your CD-writer?" and says "You have to use this syntax: SCSIBUS,TARGET,LUN. E.g.: 1,0,0". How do I figure out this information? |
| 01:21.26 | freeone3000 | pixolet: I mean like, unsticking /var/lock/apt, or something similar, because my GUI killed itself while upgrading. |
| 01:21.36 | amphi | jazbo2185: cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus perhaps |
| 01:21.59 | freeone3000 | abrotman: Yeah... So, how would I make it NOT do that? |
| 01:22.08 | abrotman | don't use arts? |
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| 01:22.32 | freeone3000 | Good enough. |
| 01:22.46 | jazbo2185 | amphi tnx |
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| 01:24.00 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 01:24.00 | dpkg | well, tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
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| 01:26.20 | abrotman | !moo |
| 01:26.20 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 01:31.39 | efaistos | hi |
| 01:32.05 | abrotman | FINALLY! |
| 01:32.08 | efaistos | do you know why in sarge i have a problem with xkbcomp that deny the start of X ? |
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| 01:35.10 | abrotman | efaistos: have a log ? or an actual error ? |
| 01:35.42 | efaistos | when i start X i have this error --> no core pointer and then failed to initialize core devices |
| 01:36.47 | signature16 | to setup a mal server, for the domain name do i put: mail A <ip address> ? |
| 01:37.06 | efaistos | abrotman: any idea ? |
| 01:37.17 | abrotman | wtf does that have to do with xkbcomp ? |
| 01:37.24 | abrotman | efaistos: what device is X using > |
| 01:37.25 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:37.29 | abrotman | signature16: #dns |
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| 01:38.13 | efaistos | abrotman: sorry apparently he cant find /dev/psaux and other stuffs .... |
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| 01:38.45 | abrotman | efaistos: firstly .. use /dev/input/mice .. and modprobe mousedev |
| 01:39.02 | stew | greenfly: did font rendering change from 6.9->7 or is it just me? |
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| 01:39.08 | stew | gravity: ^^^ |
| 01:39.14 | stew | silly stew |
| 01:39.24 | efaistos | I tried udev on this machine but I only have a 2.6.8 kernel when i try the 2.6.15 it cant find the vg00 (I have lvm) dont know why |
| 01:39.24 | dindo | hi |
| 01:39.28 | gravity | stew: There's a bug somewhere, although I don't know where... not sure what you're referring to exaclty |
| 01:39.54 | bonez41 | where does apache2 set to FollowSymLinks? is it in apache2.conf in /etc/apache2 or elsewhere? |
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| 01:40.13 | stew | gravity: i'm referring to the fact that my fonts look nicer all of the sudden :) |
| 01:40.15 | gravity | heh |
| 01:40.26 | ming | i have no sound. my alsa has been successfully configured, all my volumes are turned up and unmuted. can someone please tell me how to fix this? |
| 01:40.31 | gravity | stew: Ok, well maybe it's because we're using the system's freetype? |
| 01:40.34 | gravity | Not sure |
| 01:41.04 | efaistos | abrotman: it works with input/mice :) |
| 01:41.05 | stew | i probably hadn't used a autogenerated xorg.conf with all the right font paths in a long time |
| 01:41.16 | efaistos | but i always used /dev/psaux |
| 01:41.29 | gravity | heh, we're actually getting set to automatically alter the font paths in customized xorg.conf's |
| 01:41.46 | gravity | I'm sick of these bug reports |
| 01:41.58 | efaistos | does someone know why a 2.6.8 kernel is able to find a volume group and with a 2.6.15 it cant ? |
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| 01:43.05 | abrotman | efaistos: happy now ? |
| 01:43.08 | efaistos | yes |
| 01:43.19 | efaistos | abrotman: any idea for the kernel and the vg ? |
| 01:43.26 | abrotman | gravity: YOU'RE ABUSING IRC! |
| 01:43.34 | gravity | abrotman: See? You're practically an X maintainer! |
| 01:43.36 | abrotman | efaistos: not a clue |
| 01:43.44 | gravity | hehe |
| 01:43.49 | abrotman | gravity: except that whole pesky programming ability |
| 01:43.53 | efaistos | Weird |
| 01:43.54 | gravity | Right |
| 01:44.00 | abrotman | well .. i have the ability .. not the desire :) |
| 01:44.08 | gravity | Yeah, that's more like it :-) |
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| 01:47.36 | abrotman | again? |
| 01:47.59 | efaistos | lol |
| 01:48.21 | Rockj | It's not an debian question but I'll try to shoot the question anyway. I'am looking for a mailinglist for new kernel announcements which attaches the changelog to it's body's email so it's easy to follow the kernel changes. I'm not intressted in the kernel.org mailinglist and getting like lots lots lots of emails everyday. I just want to be keept upto date with changelog on each new version of the kernel. |
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| 01:48.50 | crschmidt | I'd like to install postgres 8.1 alongside postgres7.4 |
| 01:48.54 | crschmidt | anyone know if this is possible? |
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| 01:51.15 | l00pdee | what do all the aliases in modules.conf mean? hardware addreses or something? |
| 01:51.51 | dvs | l00pdee: device names |
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| 01:52.29 | jazbo2185 | How can I convert m4a to mp3? I've tried ecaconvert but I can't seem to get it to work |
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| 01:53.06 | l00pdee | but the char-81 or net-pf-3 |
| 01:53.15 | Beret | what happened to raidtools2 in sarge? |
| 01:53.25 | SerajewelKS | jazbo2185: use faad and lame |
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| 01:53.47 | Beret | n/m |
| 01:54.18 | abrotman | crschmidt: which version of debian ? |
| 01:54.28 | crschmidt | abrotman: unstable |
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| 01:54.45 | abrotman | crschmidt: i've been told it's possible .. apt-cache search postgres 8.1 .. and install away |
| 01:54.55 | crschmidt | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:55.13 | jazbo2185 | SerajewelKS, ty |
| 01:55.23 | SerajewelKS | jazbo2185: np |
| 01:56.49 | jazbo2185 | SerajewelKS, do you have an opinion on how this impacts audio quality? |
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| 01:57.07 | SerajewelKS | jazbo2185: opinion? it's pretty darn well fact. |
| 01:57.59 | SerajewelKS | jazbo2185: since m4a and mp3 are lossy, you're basically applying two lossy codecs to the song |
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| 01:58.35 | CSMan | hello |
| 01:58.36 | SerajewelKS | jazbo2185: so there will be more quality loss than encoding the original source to mp3. whether or not it is noticable depends on the quality settings used for both codecs and the sensitivity of your ears. |
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| 01:59.02 | stew | SerajewelKS: m4a is not necessarily lossy |
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| 01:59.15 | CSMan | has anybody had success using samba with other languages? |
| 01:59.58 | abrotman | there are other languages? |
| 02:00.05 | dvs | tango |
| 02:00.12 | dvs | ;-) |
| 02:00.50 | CSMan | abrotman: filesystems with other charsets |
| 02:01.21 | SerajewelKS | stew: i know, m4a is mpeg-4, which is a container, yadda yadda, but it usually contains some form of mpeg audio |
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| 02:02.09 | stew | SerajewelKS: it could contain ale |
| 02:03.20 | abrotman | !beer stew |
| 02:03.21 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: are you looking for a video+audio combo that will satisfy mpeg4 requirements that has really good quality? |
| 02:03.30 | stew | ALE! |
| 02:03.36 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: no, i'm answering someone's question |
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| 02:03.43 | SerajewelKS | stew: can faad do ale? |
| 02:03.48 | stew | and i'm being a stickler :) |
| 02:03.59 | SerajewelKS | !beat stew |
| 02:04.02 | Gnea | oh oops |
| 02:04.09 | gnufan | Oh on the subject of other languages, when I use the ssh option for the Debian installer it gives me extended ascii characters instead of ascii line drawings around the art work -- how do I stop that? |
| 02:04.16 | SerajewelKS | !info faad |
| 02:04.21 | Gnea | oh that was jazbo2185 |
| 02:04.22 | SerajewelKS | !info faac |
| 02:04.28 | SerajewelKS | #$%& |
| 02:04.31 | abrotman | stew: remember when disco was cool? .. that's a faad |
| 02:04.41 | Gnea | man, the best combo i've seen is mp4v+ulaw |
| 02:05.10 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: hrm, i do need to transcode someone's mpeg into a format suitable for DVD. does k3b do this for me if i make a DVD video project? |
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| 02:07.17 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i'm not entirely sure - i've not done any successful transcoding yet, and i haven't attempted to do so in quite awhile |
| 02:08.11 | abrotman | i heard E17 will come out after DNF .. is this true? |
| 02:08.50 | Gnea | DNF? |
| 02:08.58 | abrotman | Duke Nukem Forever |
| 02:09.02 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: http://gnea.net/movies/car_what.mov |
| 02:09.08 | bbrazil | abrotman: is that befoer or after Blackcomb? |
| 02:09.19 | stew | abrotman: maybe dnf requires e17 to run? |
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| 02:10.30 | abrotman | bbrazil: just before the infineon game console! |
| 02:10.44 | abrotman | stew: oh .. that would make sense |
| 02:11.09 | _ericb | anyone had problems installing debian with a broadcom gigabit ethernet device ? |
| 02:11.28 | bbrazil | abrotman: but after sid, right? |
| 02:11.29 | elliotf | _ericb: I believe that's a FAQ... |
| 02:11.42 | elliotf | _ericb: something about the tg3 drivers removed from debian-installer |
| 02:11.51 | _ericb | oh thanks for the pointer |
| 02:11.56 | abrotman | bbrazil: i can't wait til sid releases! |
| 02:12.14 | _ericb | abrotman sorry to dissapoint you, sid will never be released |
| 02:12.30 | asg | _ericb: that was a joke |
| 02:12.32 | abrotman | _ericb: OMFG .. don't say that! |
| 02:12.47 | abrotman | _ericb: how will i get KDE3.6 on sarge??!? |
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| 02:12.55 | asg | abrotman: shoehorn? |
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| 02:13.26 | stew | abrotman: if you want kde 3.6 to not be sluggish you have to tweak your kernel and compile it -06 |
| 02:13.27 | elliotf | _ericb: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/01/msg00332.html |
| 02:13.43 | abrotman | stew: i feel like a moe-ron |
| 02:13.53 | stew | abrotman: it runs ok on mine but i run RAID8 |
| 02:13.54 | Readon | does ncurses work for remote ssh console under linux term mode? |
| 02:14.01 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: no matter how many times i watch it, it still trips me out :) |
| 02:14.04 | asg | Readon: it should |
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| 02:14.26 | abrotman | stew: RAID84 is way better! |
| 02:14.29 | elliotf | Readon: ncurses works fine under ssh |
| 02:14.37 | bbrazil | abrotman: pfh, raid8+4 |
| 02:14.40 | elliotf | Readon: for me, at least |
| 02:14.45 | stew | abrotman: yeah but i can't afford that many disks with my current allowance mom gives me |
| 02:14.55 | bbrazil | Readon: check TERM if you have problems |
| 02:14.57 | abrotman | stew: get a paper route .. biker! |
| 02:15.13 | Readon | elliotf, but in that case, i get a chaos output |
| 02:15.24 | Readon | bbrazil, i use linux TERM mode |
| 02:15.37 | stew | LOLZ @ abortman |
| 02:15.52 | asg | Readon: try TERM=vt100. If that doesn't work, something is seriously wrong |
| 02:15.53 | bbrazil | Readon: xterm is a good one to try too, or vt100 |
| 02:15.54 | elliotf | Readon: odd.. (AKA, I don't know know what to say) |
| 02:16.09 | Readon | elliotf: in locale crt that would be ok. |
| 02:16.17 | shogunx | i like my bike. |
| 02:16.29 | abrotman | stew: pls tl me how 2 stop my breakin! |
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| 02:16.37 | abrotman | that hurt |
| 02:16.43 | Readon | asg, that would work, and locale linux term would work too. |
| 02:16.44 | asg | abrotman: don't wear parachute pants? |
| 02:16.57 | stew | :) |
| 02:16.58 | _ericb | thanks elliotf |
| 02:17.04 | abrotman | asg: longing for your younger days eh ? |
| 02:17.12 | Xenguy | folks, I am trying for the first time to backup a dvd with the 'k3b' tool, and unfortunately I am getting the error 'Cannot copy encrypted DVDs'. Is there a way around this, or do I need to find another tool besides 'k3b' ? |
| 02:17.16 | Gnea | abrotman: did you watch it yet? |
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| 02:17.36 | asg | abrotman: nah, I invented grunge during that period |
| 02:17.42 | Gnea | Xenguy: you need the css lib |
| 02:17.46 | abrotman | Gnea: watch what? .. you gave it to SerajewelKS |
| 02:18.00 | Xenguy | Gnea: can you elaborate? |
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| 02:18.05 | abrotman | asg: ah .. you brits .. always cutting edge fashion .. shame about that dental care though |
| 02:18.14 | Xenguy | Gnea: dvdlibcss ? |
| 02:18.14 | dvs | doh |
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| 02:18.24 | asg | abrotman: you know that I have perfect teeth and this was done while I was living here |
| 02:18.30 | abrotman | Gnea: getting |
| 02:18.33 | elliotf | _ericb: np |
| 02:18.39 | abrotman | asg: perfect? |
| 02:18.48 | stew | !phillysmite Xenguy |
| 02:18.52 | Gnea | abrotman: anyone can download it - http://gnea.net/movies/car_what.mov i still can't explain the very end |
| 02:19.02 | abrotman | Xenguy: you mean .. from my parents .. or where i was born ? |
| 02:19.09 | Xenguy | stew: no, not an amurrrrrican |
| 02:19.09 | asg | abrotman: minus the slight chip to a front tooth as a result of diving into a swimming pool trying to impress girls. |
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| 02:19.13 | abrotman | Gnea: is this the truck ? |
| 02:19.19 | Gnea | Xenguy: libdvdcss |
| 02:19.21 | Xenguy | stew: say it ain't so |
| 02:19.26 | stew | Xenguy: it so |
| 02:19.28 | Gnea | abrotman: just watch it all the way through |
| 02:19.31 | Xenguy | gah |
| 02:19.32 | abrotman | asg: how do you chip a tooth ... hitting water? |
| 02:19.35 | abrotman | Xenguy: why? |
| 02:19.53 | asg | abrotman: no, hitting the bottom of the pool. The water worked somewhat to cushion the blow. |
| 02:19.55 | Xenguy | Gnea: I have that installed, but apparently k3b doesn't see it currently |
| 02:20.06 | abrotman | Xenguy: why can't i be an american? |
| 02:20.13 | Xenguy | abrotman: nothing, nothing =) |
| 02:20.19 | Gnea | Xenguy: did you ever set up the extended libdvdcss? |
| 02:20.20 | abrotman | asg: you were trying to impress girls while diving into the kiddie pool? |
| 02:20.28 | abrotman | Xenguy: what the hell are you talking about? |
| 02:20.35 | Xenguy | Gnea: not that I am aware of |
| 02:20.41 | asg | abrotman: no, the shallow end. I miscalculated the depth. |
| 02:20.45 | Tarantulafudge | hey guys |
| 02:20.54 | abrotman | asg: obviously .. maybe your eyes aren't so good :) |
| 02:20.55 | Gnea | Xenguy: actually, it's libdvdread3 |
| 02:21.06 | Readon | bbrazil, i don't like xterm & vt100 env so, would ncurses and linux work together in ssh |
| 02:21.07 | stew | asg: what was this? the pool out behind jackalope jacks? |
| 02:21.13 | asg | abrotman: hence the glasses in the smokeswhilesleeping picture |
| 02:21.17 | Gnea | Xenguy: ah, then you need to read into /usr/share/doc/ |
| 02:21.23 | Tarantulafudge | how do I install a seperate instance of apache |
| 02:21.23 | abrotman | asg: i've only seen the four horseman |
| 02:21.26 | Xenguy | abrotman: OK you can go ahead and be an amurican, but only if you don't criticize (unduly) other nationalities -- there, that's settled ;-) |
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| 02:21.34 | asg | stew: hehe, no. I was completely sober at the time; that might have been the problem :) |
| 02:21.57 | abrotman | Xenguy: i can criticize anyone i feel like. and i certainly didn't criticize the politics in any other country |
| 02:22.01 | Xenguy | Gnea: I just installed a v3 (dev?) of that, so I'll see if that helps -- thanks |
| 02:22.06 | bbrazil | Readon: eh, the only difference you might notice is speed |
| 02:22.18 | asg | abrotman: http://gimp.shacknet.nu/code/misc/smokeswhilesleeping.jpg |
| 02:22.22 | Gnea | Xenguy: heh, you need to READ |
| 02:22.24 | Xenguy | abrotman: oh, umm, sorry, was joking a little actually... |
| 02:22.31 | Xenguy | Gnea: candu |
| 02:22.36 | abrotman | Xenguy: don't make me go to ##debian and cause problems! |
| 02:22.51 | abrotman | asg: are you in the garage? |
| 02:23.00 | stew | is there still a ##debian? |
| 02:23.06 | stew | aka #debian-friendly? |
| 02:23.06 | asg | abrotman: in spoopin's old garage no less |
| 02:23.08 | Xenguy | abrotman: I saw random comments about brits, canadians, and soviets, and started to thread a pattern ;-) |
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| 02:23.32 | elliotf | stew: I think they just changed it all to #debian-mean |
| 02:23.33 | Xenguy | abrotman: but now I've got your number :P |
| 02:23.33 | abrotman | Xenguy: anyone can pick on the canadians .. if they didn't have that .. what would they have :) |
| 02:23.37 | Xenguy | hehe |
| 02:23.44 | Xenguy | see? |
| 02:23.46 | Gnea | Xenguy: people do it to americans all the time, thus it's okay for americans to do it ;) |
| 02:23.46 | abrotman | !sing blame canada |
| 02:23.47 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
| 02:23.55 | dvs | !canucksmite abrotman |
| 02:23.59 | Xenguy | Gnea: sounds fair |
| 02:24.01 | abrotman | !poutine |
| 02:24.02 | dpkg | http://www.xavinho.online.fr/travels/america/montreal/poutine.jpg or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine |
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| 02:24.28 | abrotman | you are an american |
| 02:24.31 | Gnea | what's an amurikan? |
| 02:24.36 | abrotman | you're just not a US citizen |
| 02:24.46 | okie | kill Xenguy |
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| 02:25.01 | asg | abrotman: like me |
| 02:25.09 | Xenguy | abrotman: I should be a little fair and say I only hate your fucking gov't -- guys like you are merely annoying ;-) |
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| 02:25.32 | Gnea | Xenguy: i hate your hate. |
| 02:25.35 | Xenguy | okie: OK, I really am done now :P |
| 02:25.54 | Xenguy | Gnea: it's abrotman's fault |
| 02:26.02 | _ericb | abrotman live in quebec ? |
| 02:26.05 | asg | haha |
| 02:26.11 | Gnea | lol |
| 02:26.16 | abrotman | _ericb: if i could |
| 02:26.22 | abrotman | Gnea: i don't get it |
| 02:26.35 | Gnea | abrotman: watch it again... |
| 02:26.43 | abrotman | Gnea: why? |
| 02:26.58 | abrotman | i see traffic |
| 02:27.01 | _ericb | abrotman why do you say that ? |
| 02:27.02 | abrotman | and some guy driving really slow |
| 02:27.08 | Gnea | yes, but watch the very end.... |
| 02:27.16 | abrotman | _ericb: because then noone would want me .. not the rest of canada or the french! :) |
| 02:27.16 | Gnea | backwards?! |
| 02:27.24 | abrotman | eh? |
| 02:27.32 | Gnea | where do you see that car getting stuck in the middle of the intersection in the first place? |
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| 02:27.41 | Xenguy | abrotman: they would kill you - stay in philly =) |
| 02:27.49 | abrotman | Gnea: oh .. same guy that was driving slow in the middle lane .. gotcha |
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| 02:28.00 | abrotman | Xenguy: nah .. they'd love me |
| 02:28.15 | Xenguy | abrotman: only if you bought them Canadian beer! |
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| 02:28.18 | Gnea | abrotman: there are 5 lanes each way |
| 02:28.23 | asg | dvs: better than Georgia |
| 02:28.26 | Gnea | abrotman: 2 are for left-hand turns |
| 02:28.31 | abrotman | Gnea: isn't that the same car that was driving slow in the middle? |
| 02:28.35 | dvs | asg: Ok, you're right |
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| 02:28.44 | Tarantulafudge | can apache1 and apache2 be installed on the same server? |
| 02:28.58 | Gnea | oh wait... i just found it |
| 02:28.59 | abrotman | better than Hamilton! |
| 02:29.01 | asg | Tarantulafudge: yes but they can't listen on the same port on the same IP |
| 02:29.04 | useruser | does anyone have experience of running debian inside Q on mac os x? |
| 02:29.07 | dvs | abrotman: Hell yeah! |
| 02:29.11 | useruser | i'm having http problems. |
| 02:29.13 | Tarantulafudge | asg: I see |
| 02:29.23 | Gnea | abrotman: hehe thanks |
| 02:29.34 | abrotman | Gnea: it is the same car .. right ? |
| 02:29.35 | asg | Tarantulafudge: the debian package might conflict but I don't know for sure. |
| 02:29.57 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah, must've been stoned |
| 02:30.14 | abrotman | Gnea: you or the passenger? .. and why would you tape yourself driving around? |
| 02:30.24 | Gnea | what? |
| 02:30.28 | abrotman | stoner! |
| 02:30.38 | abrotman | Gnea: you didn't take that movie did you ? |
| 02:30.41 | Xenguy | yeh baby |
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| 02:30.50 | abrotman | !tell tengulre about root |
| 02:30.50 | Gnea | abrotman: i did, about 2 hours ago |
| 02:30.54 | abrotman | Gnea: no way! |
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| 02:31.18 | Gnea | abrotman: yes way. and i see it now - the guy was making a left hand turn but oncoming traffic cut him off so he backed up |
| 02:31.37 | abrotman | that's just silly |
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| 02:31.45 | Gnea | :) |
| 02:31.45 | abrotman | Gnea: why do you record the traffic? |
| 02:31.59 | Gnea | that's just leftover from another project i was working on |
| 02:32.05 | nano | Hi, does anyone here uses a radeon7500 graphics card? |
| 02:32.08 | VolVE | hey all, anyone used ddrescue at all? It seems that my drive's transfer rate slows down to a few kb/sec after reading for a few minutes at several mb/sec... blah :-/ |
| 02:32.09 | Gnea | abrotman: called 'Fake Bums' |
| 02:32.17 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
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| 02:32.25 | abrotman | nano: not a single person! |
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| 02:32.47 | asg | abrotman: here in NC, we've had an increase in people driving the wrong way on the interstate lately. So much so that one of our congresspeople is blaming it on illegals and trying to use it as a tool to expedite deportation. |
| 02:33.05 | abrotman | asg: maybe they should stop selling budweiser |
| 02:33.17 | asg | abrotman: or giving a harder driving test. |
| 02:33.24 | Gnea | abrotman: it's about people who impersonate bums either to get free money or to see how stupid people really are |
| 02:33.37 | abrotman | Gnea: is this how you pay your rent? |
| 02:33.41 | asg | Gnea: my brother makes a good living doing the former |
| 02:33.46 | Gnea | abrotman: i don't know yet :) |
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| 02:33.46 | nano | abrotman, i just wanna play tuxcart :( ...cant play it on my computer |
| 02:33.53 | jazbo2185 | somebody said I could do `dmesg | grep '^hd.:'` and see what drives I've got on my system but that command isn't returning anything. Is that bad? |
| 02:34.23 | Gnea | asg: that's some fucked up shit - why doesn't he get off his lazy ass and get a REAL job? |
| 02:34.38 | abrotman | Gnea: we can't all be like you |
| 02:34.45 | abrotman | !cheesesmite Gnea |
| 02:34.49 | asg | Gnea: real jobs have drug tests that he can't pass. |
| 02:34.50 | Gnea | lol |
| 02:34.58 | abrotman | asg: stop giving him drugs! |
| 02:35.04 | abrotman | oh SHIT .. now it all makes sense |
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| 02:35.16 | Gnea | asg: obviously because he's too stupid. okay cool, less stupid people doing real jobs.. i'm cool with that |
| 02:35.20 | abrotman | asg's brother got stoned .. and was out driving in front of Gnea's house .. and drove backwards! |
| 02:35.47 | abrotman | Gnea: aren't you glad i caught the guy driving slowly in the middle? ... |
| 02:35.48 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah, and now the mexicans are here |
| 02:35.55 | asg | Gnea: no, he's fucked. I was just relating a fact. He can easily make $100 per day begging. |
| 02:35.58 | Gnea | hhahaha |
| 02:36.04 | asg | abrotman: way beyond stoned |
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| 02:36.36 | abrotman | asg: like .. stuff .. that is illegal?!!? |
| 02:36.45 | Gnea | asg: why don't you put him out of his misery? |
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| 02:37.16 | asg | Gnea: I'm sure someone else will in time. |
| 02:37.24 | Gnea | asg: do you still hold out hope that he'll get his shit together? |
| 02:37.25 | abrotman | asg: does he live in AZ? |
| 02:37.34 | asg | Gnea: no, I don't |
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| 02:37.54 | Gnea | asg: do you live in north or south carolina? |
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| 02:37.57 | abrotman | Gnea: you're just lucky you escaped wisconsin! |
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| 02:38.00 | asg | abrotman: FL last I heard. I don't keep in touch and I don't let him know where I live ... It's easier that way. |
| 02:38.05 | asg | Gnea: North |
| 02:38.16 | abrotman | asg: don't you live .. like down the street from the parental units? |
| 02:38.22 | Gnea | abrotman: hell yeah man, that winter shit is for the birds |
| 02:38.32 | abrotman | Gnea: but you miss the brats! |
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| 02:38.39 | asg | abrotman: yes, they know that if they ever tell him, they'll never hear from me again either. |
| 02:38.40 | Nopalin | hi, excuse me, how can i configure gnome to start it with startx ? |
| 02:38.49 | abrotman | asg: oh .. cute :) |
| 02:38.50 | Gnea | abrotman: not really :) |
| 02:38.54 | abrotman | Gnea: WHAT?! |
| 02:38.58 | abrotman | the cheese maybe? |
| 02:39.01 | abrotman | maybe .. Point Beer? |
| 02:39.14 | abrotman | /usr/bin/gnome-session |
| 02:39.15 | abrotman | i think |
| 02:39.18 | Gnea | plenty of cheese and beer here |
| 02:39.31 | abrotman | oh yeah .. Monterey Jack and Corona :) |
| 02:39.36 | Gnea | lol |
| 02:39.37 | elizabetherbes | where in FL O just gpt back from New SMearna BEach |
| 02:39.38 | asg | abrotman: yeah, it makes for interesting holiday gatherings :) |
| 02:39.56 | abrotman | asg: oh ... you get to see him at xmas ? |
| 02:40.01 | asg | !tell elizabetherbes to stop reading the Da Vinci Code |
| 02:40.10 | abrotman | !home keys |
| 02:40.30 | asg | abrotman: not at all usually. Sometimes, he pops up there though and that can't be planned. |
| 02:40.43 | elizabetherbes | On;y read the first 3 ch |
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| 02:40.46 | abrotman | asg: do you give him a lump of coal? |
| 02:41.00 | asg | abrotman: last time I saw him, I was beating him with a fire extinguisher |
| 02:41.16 | abrotman | asg: they have anger management classes |
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| 02:41.34 | jazbo2185 | is it true that if `locate ide-scsi.o` returns nothing I'm going to have to compile a kernel to get cd burning working? |
| 02:41.36 | asg | abrotman: long story in this case so I'll drop it |
| 02:41.51 | abrotman | asg: should have used a VCR |
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| 02:41.57 | Gnea | jazbo2185: what kernel are you using? |
| 02:42.03 | jazbo2185 | Gnea 2.6 |
| 02:42.09 | asg | abrotman: that has cabley attachments that don't disengage easily. |
| 02:42.14 | abrotman | try ide-scsi.ko |
| 02:42.21 | abrotman | asg: pull harder! |
| 02:42.28 | Gnea | jazbo2185: no need - 2.6 doesn't use scsi emulation for burning, use ide-cd.ko |
| 02:42.33 | asg | abrotman: "No time for love Dr. Jones" |
| 02:42.39 | jazbo2185 | abrotman, yah ide-scsi.ko is there |
| 02:42.43 | Gnea | !ide-cd |
| 02:42.44 | dpkg | hmm... ide-cd is the ATA(PI) driver for CD-ROMs, and is used in newer (2.6.x and VERY recent 2.4.x) kernels for CD burning with the "ATA" driver. See also <ide-scsi>. http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0408.0/0267.html |
| 02:42.59 | Gnea | !ide-scsi |
| 02:42.59 | dpkg | [ide-scsi] one of the kernel modules needed in order to use an IDE cd burner in kernels < 2.6, but broken in 2.6.0: read http://programming.linux.com/article.pl?sid=03/12/09/1341236 |
| 02:43.02 | abrotman | asg: hehe |
| 02:43.06 | roler | sigh...I just updated my debian testing system and when I log in, my screen loads, and then goes blank and then my system gets unresponsive... I think one of my gnome applets has a problem with the last update |
| 02:43.28 | Gnea | jazbo2185: signed, sealed, delivered! :) |
| 02:43.34 | elizabetherbes | this must be some sort discussion about debian I take it what do I use that would communicate with who i have on yahooo messenger |
| 02:43.49 | Gnea | elizabetherbes: gaim |
| 02:43.53 | asg | elizabetherbes: bitlbee |
| 02:43.57 | elizabetherbes | thanks |
| 02:44.10 | asg | !give Gnea the stalwart parsing award |
| 02:44.10 | dpkg | give Gnea the stalwart parsing award |
| 02:44.17 | asg | dumb bot |
| 02:44.22 | sinisterr | what pakage do i need to install to get the < mail > command in sarge? |
| 02:44.23 | Gnea | lol |
| 02:44.28 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:44.45 | asg | sinisterr: apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search bin/mail |
| 02:45.02 | Gnea | sinisterr: mailx |
| 02:45.08 | sinisterr | k |
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| 02:47.38 | sinisterr | Gnea: thats thats the one alright :) |
| 02:47.43 | abrotman | Xenguy: do you guys have TV? |
| 02:47.53 | fenrir | I'm trying to install debian on a computer without an internet connection, which cd contains the xservers and window managers? |
| 02:48.03 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 02:48.03 | sinisterr | Gnea: thanks |
| 02:48.03 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
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| 02:48.23 | fenrir | thanks |
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| 02:49.03 | abrotman | Gnea: THE CAR IS GOING BACKWARDS! |
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| 02:50.21 | HomeRoey | hi |
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| 02:50.27 | HomeRoey | what does this mean: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS9337434227.html |
| 02:50.29 | edoardo | hi gals, hi dudes : ) |
| 02:50.32 | HomeRoey | hey edoardo |
| 02:50.43 | HomeRoey | Does LSB 3.1 still use RPMs? |
| 02:50.46 | abrotman | is HomeRoey .. regular Roey? |
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| 02:50.52 | HomeRoey | nick Roey |
| 02:50.54 | nichos | how can i find out how much video ram is on my card? |
| 02:50.54 | HomeRoey | damn |
| 02:51.00 | nichos | i dont see it in lspci |
| 02:51.04 | Roey | hi |
| 02:51.04 | jazbo2185 | Gnea, and abrotman tnx. hmmm I'm still at a bit of a loss though as to how to actually get the burning to work though. Do I have to somehow install the ide-scsi.ko module? I'm not quite sure what this would take. Google's not being very helpful |
| 02:51.05 | Roey | abrotman: hi! |
| 02:51.08 | abrotman | nichos: check your X log |
| 02:51.19 | abrotman | Roey: ok .. what does what mean? |
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| 02:51.27 | nichos | abrotman im trying to configure my xf86config, will it report correctly? |
| 02:51.40 | edoardo | can anyone help me out with my firewall rulez? like, i'm behind a router and i can usually configure'em... but thissun's set up pretty weird. help? : ) it's a usr8054 and i can provide a user guide link to it. help? : ) |
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| 02:51.42 | abrotman | nichos: don't use that |
| 02:51.46 | abrotman | !drxx nichos |
| 02:51.46 | dpkg | nichos: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:51.54 | Roey | abrotman: that article is so vacuous that I have /no/ idea what the LSB actually involves. |
| 02:52.09 | nichos | abrotman thanks |
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| 02:52.40 | nichos | ~tell nichos about xmd5 |
| 02:52.48 | nichos | ~tell nichos about <xmd5> |
| 02:52.57 | abrotman | !tell nichos about xmd5 |
| 02:53.02 | nichos | lol, ty |
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| 02:53.28 | nichos | thanks for the help guys |
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| 02:54.32 | abrotman | Roey: i'm confused about what you don't undersatnd |
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| 02:55.16 | jazbo2185 | what is the difference between a .o module and a .ko? |
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| 02:55.24 | Elive_user2 | can anyone tell me where apt-get stores the downloaded .deb files |
| 02:55.24 | abrotman | kernel versions |
| 02:55.37 | asg | jazbo2185: .ko are >=2.6 kernel version modules |
| 02:56.14 | jazbo2185 | asg ty |
| 02:56.20 | asg | jazbo2185: you're welcome |
| 02:57.44 | NOthsouth | hello, I have debian sarge installed, i need to know the default apt source.list.. |
| 02:57.51 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 02:57.57 | abrotman | wait .. why the default? |
| 02:58.00 | asg | NOthsouth: /msg dpkg mirrors |
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| 02:58.05 | jazbo2185 | how do I determine what hd (i.e. hda, hdb, hdc etc...), my cd recorder is? |
| 02:58.22 | Roey | abrotman: does LSB jive with Debian or not? Does Debian fall under LSB compliance?? |
| 02:58.24 | NOthsouth | cuz i think i put a lot of wrong urls there |
| 02:58.31 | dorileo | anybody runing kmail have ever got this kind of error? http://pastebin.com/682278 |
| 02:58.39 | abrotman | Roey: kind of :) |
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| 02:58.56 | abrotman | Roey: i think there's a big pile of documents about debian the LSB |
| 02:59.20 | NOthsouth | abrotman, I don't have apt-setup command here |
| 02:59.22 | Roey | ok |
| 02:59.24 | Roey | abrotman: ah |
| 02:59.32 | abrotman | Roey: http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ |
| 02:59.35 | abrotman | NOthsouth: you should |
| 02:59.41 | abrotman | !find bin/apt-setup sarge |
| 02:59.50 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/apt-setup' (1): (/usr/sbin/apt-setup) in base/base-config. |
| 02:59.57 | Roey | abrotman: see, until I see that the LSB issues a proclamation about debian packages as the ONLY format allowed for packages, then I'll continue to ignore the LSB |
| 03:00.06 | Roey | unfortunately, even vendors ignore the LSB. |
| 03:00.12 | abrotman | Roey: they do .. sadly |
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| 03:00.20 | Roey | They just certify against specific (big-name) distro vendors. |
| 03:00.47 | abrotman | Roey: the intent is good .. but i think they went to far |
| 03:01.12 | abrotman | too far |
| 03:01.15 | Roey | ok |
| 03:01.20 | Roey | welllllllllllll |
| 03:01.21 | Roey | look |
| 03:01.24 | NBrepresent | hi, i just installed debian on an old laptop for 'fun'. i thought that my pcmcia network card was detected during the installation process, but base-config said that it appears that i'm not connected to the internet. what should i do now? |
| 03:01.31 | abrotman | Roey: there should be a list you can ask for more info |
| 03:01.35 | leighm | hi there, im rebuilding the 2.6.8 kernel (from kernel-tree-2.6.8) using make-kpkg --intrd kernel_image from the original /boot/config-2.6.8-2-386 config, but my scsi devices arent working at boot, any ideas? this is a rebuild based on the config that debian have supplied and the sarge kernel too! nothing should be different! |
| 03:01.40 | Roey | abrotman: the distro vendors definitely played this hand... they get moeny by having their own certs programs. |
| 03:01.50 | Roey | abrotman: eh I think theLSB can go stuff it. |
| 03:01.57 | abrotman | leighm: why are you rebuilding |
| 03:01.58 | abrotman | ? |
| 03:02.07 | abrotman | Roey: ok .. then ignore the article :) |
| 03:02.22 | Roey | abrotman: the bigger issue for me is whether I want a repository-based distro or a trust-any-package-vendor one. |
| 03:02.34 | NOthsouth | abrotman, what happend if I put some urls in my source.list of stable..but i have sarge ? there is some packages of another debian sarge here.. i'm not sure how to fix it up |
| 03:02.56 | leighm | abrotman, to test, because when this works ill try a kernel with Xen patches, but i cannot get a completly original sarge kernel rebuild to work |
| 03:02.57 | abrotman | sarge is stable |
| 03:03.11 | abrotman | leighm: i think there are backports for xen |
| 03:03.22 | NOthsouth | abrotman, sorry, i mean unstable |
| 03:03.33 | leighm | abrotman, im not concerened with xen right now, im concerned that 2.6.8 from sarge cannot be rebuilt and installed |
| 03:03.34 | Dwonis | Roey: note that RPM is only a package format... see the notes at http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/swinstall.html |
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| 03:04.05 | abrotman | NOthsouth: mixing is bad |
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| 03:04.15 | abrotman | leighm: you may have missed an option |
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| 03:04.42 | leighm | abrotman, OK then why is this happening when i use the kernel config /boot/config-2.6.8-2-386 to build the kernel that is supplied in sarge ? |
| 03:04.52 | FabParma | hi |
| 03:04.58 | Gnea | NOthsouth: sarge and stable are one in the same |
| 03:05.01 | jazbo2185 | How do I load the ide-scsi module? When I look in modules.conf it say "Do not modify this file!" |
| 03:05.03 | leighm | so you're telling me, it might not be the kernel config, or initrd? |
| 03:05.09 | abrotman | leighm: you used make oldconfig or whatever? |
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| 03:05.24 | leighm | abrotman, no im trying todo things in a debian specific way with make-kpkg |
| 03:05.32 | abrotman | leighm: you can compare kernel configs . .they should both be in /boot/ |
| 03:05.43 | FabParma | how to know the KDE version that I am using? |
| 03:05.43 | leighm | abrotman, the kernel configs are exactly the same |
| 03:05.52 | abrotman | leighm: then all i can think is initrd |
| 03:06.06 | leighm | abrotman, but i can recreate an initrd for the current working kernel and it is OK |
| 03:06.08 | Cowman | hey I need some cron help. I am trying to use cron to sync my time just before every half hour. I put this in my crontab as root: |
| 03:06.18 | Cowman | 28,58 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 03:06.20 | abrotman | leighm: but scsi doesn't work ? |
| 03:06.52 | Cowman | but the time is drifting anyway. If I run the command manually it seems to work just fine |
| 03:07.07 | FabParma | is there a command to discover the kde version that im using? |
| 03:07.09 | Gnea | Cowman: */30 * * * * /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 03:07.12 | abrotman | Cowman: why is iut failing? |
| 03:07.15 | abrotman | #debian-kde |
| 03:07.26 | abrotman | Gnea: help everyone! |
| 03:07.34 | leighm | abrotman, scsi modules are loaded, ive added a shell to my initrd image and i can see that all the relative modules are loaded ( ide_scsi,sd_mod,usb_storage,3w_9xxx, scsi_mod) and they are insterted at boot, but the devices arent mapping |
| 03:07.52 | leighm | Coweater, ntpdate every 30 minutes may be a bit excessive.. |
| 03:07.54 | jazbo2185 | FabParma, usually if you use --version on any kde program it also tells you the kde version. |
| 03:07.56 | NBrepresent | Gnea: starting with me! :-) |
| 03:07.59 | Gnea | everyone: There is no such nick everyone |
| 03:08.04 | stoned | hey |
| 03:08.04 | abrotman | most people run ntpdate once a day |
| 03:08.07 | AlienX | Cowman, you running sid? I've been noticing that NTP hasn't been working as well. |
| 03:08.08 | abrotman | leighm: |
| 03:08.08 | stoned | who made my irc flash? |
| 03:08.09 | abrotman | bah |
| 03:08.14 | abrotman | stoned: sorry |
| 03:08.18 | Cowman | you havn't seen how far my clock is drifting |
| 03:08.22 | abrotman | stoned: gnea got wrecked and drove around backwards |
| 03:08.24 | stoned | what did you need? |
| 03:08.25 | leighm | dont be sorry :D |
| 03:08.26 | stoned | oh |
| 03:08.31 | stoned | lol |
| 03:08.33 | stoned | HAHAHA |
| 03:08.34 | Cowman | and it's a mythtv box, so if the clock is off the recordings start at the wrong times |
| 03:08.35 | Dwonis | Cowman: stepping the clock often can cause instability |
| 03:08.37 | AlienX | Cowman, mine was off a half hour yesterday |
| 03:08.38 | stoned | ;) |
| 03:08.44 | Gnea | that's what you get for being stoned ;) |
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| 03:08.47 | leighm | abrotman, so yeh seems like the scsi devices arent mapping, if i try to mount /dev/sda1 it tells me sda1 is an invalid block device |
| 03:08.52 | stoned | not me, thats for sure |
| 03:08.57 | abrotman | leighm: could be missing a filesystem also |
| 03:09.08 | Dwonis | good night, abrotman |
| 03:09.10 | Cowman | and yeah it would be really nice if my system would just keep time within 10 seconds or so per day |
| 03:09.17 | leighm | abrotman, that module is loaded, definately (ext3) |
| 03:09.21 | abrotman | really .. going sleepy .. now :) |
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| 03:10.00 | Dwonis | Cowman: wtf? Mine's usually always within 1 second |
| 03:10.10 | Dwonis | Cowman: which is the point of NTP |
| 03:10.32 | AlienX | Dwonis, i think it's something going on with the package in sid |
| 03:10.45 | Dwonis | AlienX: ah |
| 03:10.52 | Dwonis | Cowman: running unstable can result in system instability :) |
| 03:10.57 | Cowman | without running NTP, I'll be 10 minutes off after a couple days |
| 03:11.03 | Cowman | I'm running testing |
| 03:11.14 | Cowman | etch |
| 03:11.19 | AlienX | Dwonis, ie. my time right now is saying 23:17...slightly off ;) |
| 03:11.20 | lostson | even with using ntp my system wont hold the right time and im using testing |
| 03:11.28 | Cowman | yeah it's driving me nuts |
| 03:11.46 | AlienX | lostson, i guess it's a problem in testing too ;) |
| 03:12.06 | lostson | yes it is |
| 03:12.19 | lostson | im getting really disturbed with the problems in testing |
| 03:12.19 | Cowman | check this out: I ran ntpdate 10 minutes ago, I just ran it again and I was 1.5 seconds off |
| 03:12.32 | AlienX | lostson, that's what happens when you run a less than stable distro |
| 03:12.39 | AlienX | lostson, it'll get fixed |
| 03:12.40 | lostson | AlienX: true |
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| 03:12.50 | lostson | but stable is so far behind |
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| 03:13.09 | Cowman | which is actually good, it was 13 minutes off when I ran it last |
| 03:13.18 | AlienX | lostson, you're right about that. It's a trade off. Or, you could always try ubuntu if you'd prefer not to have the headaches. |
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| 03:13.30 | lostson | i dont trust ubuntu |
| 03:13.34 | AlienX | Coweater, mine is 5 minutes off. |
| 03:13.44 | AlienX | lostson, well, i guess you deal with what you have then :) |
| 03:13.51 | OffThaTOp | When I installed debian, I accidentally selected the incorrect video mode. Is the anyway to change it without installing it all over again? |
| 03:13.54 | lostson | no i switch to something else |
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| 03:14.08 | AlienX | OffThaTOp, which version of debian are you running? |
| 03:14.09 | Cowman | OffThaTOp: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:14.12 | `ns` | running testing here and not having problems with the clock ... running ntpdate as of about a week ago, but running on internal clock only for about 2 months with only about 5 minutes of drift ... |
| 03:14.24 | Dwonis | !tell OffThaTOp about drx |
| 03:14.24 | OffThaTOp | the newest sarge |
| 03:14.32 | lostson | i cant ever get wlan-ng in stable |
| 03:14.36 | danieldg | is there a good way to install debian on a laptop with a SATA hard drive? I'm currently planning to get debbootstrap working from knoppix since the netinstall CD didn't work |
| 03:15.01 | AlienX | OffThaTOp, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 03:17.32 | OffThaTOp | Cowman, when I nano the xorg.conf, it comes up blank. |
| 03:17.44 | lostson | etch works ok on my desktop but my lappy's wireless is a pain |
| 03:17.54 | AlienX | OffThaTOp, that's because you're not running xorg :) |
| 03:18.07 | Dwonis | from the LSB spec: "Applications are also encouraged to uninstall cleanly." |
| 03:18.11 | Dwonis | "encouraged"... wtf? |
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| 03:18.45 | OffThaTOp | Well, I guess that makes sense... lol |
| 03:18.55 | AlienX | OffThaTOp, do what I told you to do and you'll be fine |
| 03:19.15 | OffThaTOp | OK, I didn't see it... lol |
| 03:19.22 | AlienX | :) |
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| 03:19.34 | danieldg | is there an official howto for debbootstrap? |
| 03:19.40 | evaded | OffThaTOp: It's blanc, because you're go to make an new file |
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| 03:20.05 | lostson | nice azureus doesnt work either |
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| 03:20.06 | evaded | OffThaTOp: It's noted on the botom or top of it |
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| 03:21.07 | Dwonis | danieldg: debootstrap --help? When I last used it from Knoppix, I simply mounted the filesystem, ran debootstrap, then chrooted to the new filesystem and installed the appropriate kernel & bootloader, *then* removed some brain-damaged symlinks to /KNOPPIX/... in /etc |
| 03:21.15 | OffThaTOp | Thank you for your help alien |
| 03:21.30 | OffThaTOp | Should I select VESA for a GeForce 3 |
| 03:21.34 | OffThaTOp | ? |
| 03:21.35 | Dwonis | danieldg: off the top of my head, those symlinks were /etc/hostname, /etc/localtime, and possibly 1 or 2 more |
| 03:21.44 | AlienX | OffThaTOp, no problem. No, you should select NV i think. |
| 03:21.46 | stew | danieldg: i think the manpage is as close as it gets |
| 03:21.47 | danieldg | Dwonis: heh, didn't even check if debootstrap existed :) thanks |
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| 03:22.33 | OffThaTOp | Any guess what the bus Identifier is? |
| 03:22.41 | AlienX | OffThaTOp, I leave it blank |
| 03:22.42 | nuzuno | heloo, which repo is the package mozilla-mplayer in? |
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| 03:24.11 | stew | nuzuno: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 03:24.24 | NOthsouth | on what repos can i find this pack. glibc-2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 ? |
| 03:24.53 | stew | NOthsouth: /msg dpkg security |
| 03:24.55 | OffThaTOp | Thank you so much for all your help everyone! (esp alien) |
| 03:26.30 | dorileo | does anybody knows why I'm getting this? http://pastebin.com/682314 |
| 03:26.31 | NOthsouth | stew, :D |
| 03:26.33 | lostson | anyone know if wlan-ng will work with sarge and the 2.4 kernel |
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| 03:27.38 | AlienX | dorileo, because you don't have the RSA key for the debian source |
| 03:28.58 | NOthsouth | i'm trying to install the package locales, but apt tell me it depend on glibc-2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 package, but apt ca't resolv this dependency.. |
| 03:30.14 | dorileo | AlienX: can explain better? sorry but, is it a problem? how can I fix it? |
| 03:30.38 | stew | NOthsouth: do you have a security line in sources.list? |
| 03:30.40 | danieldg | using debootstrap, I get "E: Couldn't download libgcrypt7". What did I do wrong? Should I just try again later? |
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| 03:31.08 | stew | danieldg: what version of debian are you bootstrapping and what version of debootstrap are you running? |
| 03:31.10 | AlienX | dorileo, i don't even remember the name of the package for the key. Try install gpg or one of those. |
| 03:31.14 | StijnT | can anyone tell me how to create a kernel with "make-kpkg" that will be able to boot a root fs on LVM . |
| 03:31.30 | Thanatermesis_ | stew, im looking again for the ipod stuff with one person, i think to understand the problem but in my tests for now not works, if you look in the policy ( http://pastebin.com/682295 ), you look in the 3º line to the match is "storage", but in the ipod device is "volume" or "portable_audio_player" |
| 03:31.43 | danieldg | stew: sarge, and don't know how to check the version |
| 03:31.45 | stew | dorileo: /msg dpkg apt secure ; /msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 03:32.17 | AlienX | there you go :) |
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| 03:33.05 | stew | Thanatermesis_: you might have him try 0.6.12 which i have at http://vireo.org/debian/ivman ; it aparantly fixes some similar problems |
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| 03:33.47 | NOthsouth | stew, yes i do |
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| 03:34.11 | xin | I've downloaded a package (php5) source with apt-get source and ./configure'd it to suit my needs and then tested it and it works properly. How do I compile it as a .deb that provides for php5 and its counterparts? |
| 03:34.18 | Thanatermesis | sounds good stew... i try it |
| 03:34.21 | stew | NOthsouth: have you run apt-get update? |
| 03:34.26 | stew | Thanatermesis: please report back |
| 03:34.29 | NOthsouth | yes |
| 03:34.44 | dorileo | stew: thanks |
| 03:34.44 | AlienX | xin, google.com/linux will have several sites that tell you how to make a .deb file |
| 03:35.04 | StijnT | xin: try editing debian/rules for the configure options, increase the changelog with "dch -i" and then run "debuild" or "dpkg-buildpackage" |
| 03:35.06 | stew | danieldg: in any case, it would probably be a good idea to grab the latest version from unstable from http://packages.debian.org/debootstrap |
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| 03:35.28 | ceplma | xin: maybe just fakeroot debian/rules binary would be enough |
| 03:35.35 | danieldg | stew: ok, I've just rebooted with knoppix 4.0 - is that new enough? |
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| 03:35.49 | Thanatermesis | sure stew :) |
| 03:35.52 | unstable | I'm trying to make my first useful script on my Debian GNU/Linux laptop. I download archives(compressed with rar) and I want to extract the archives as they are being downloaded. Now the unrar program that runs natively on GNU/linux which I use to extract these archives has a mode where it can wait for the user to input a letter, and hit enter.( the letter is c for continue ) http://pastebin.com/682310 <- example |
| 03:35.59 | ceplma | xin: (but you have to reproduce all you ./configure parameteres in debian/rules) |
| 03:36.04 | stew | danieldg: what does version "dpkg -l debootstrap" report? |
| 03:36.10 | unstable | I download these archives, and first I download a sfv file, which has a crc32 one way has for each file.(to ensure I downloaded the archive without error) I want to make a shell script, that uses unrar, and when unrar gives it a dialogue like on pastebin.com and it wants the user to input c and hit enter, instead of waiting for the user, it will do "cfv filethatneedstobedownloaded" and if that hash matches the one in the sfv file(gets downloade |
| 03:36.32 | jnc | xin: all files related to debian package building, are inside the source directory of said package in 'debian' subdirectory; you'd use dpkg-buildpackage command from inside said source directory to kick off the process... it reads debian/control script and that does some more things, and so on. |
| 03:36.40 | danieldg | stew: 0.3.1.4 |
| 03:36.48 | unstable | I want to make it so every 15 seconds, it will do "cfv filethatneedstobedownloaded" and if the file is done downloading, and the hash matching the hash in the sfv file, it will input c into the unrar program |
| 03:36.58 | ceplma | unstable: how is your reading (about flooding the channel)? |
| 03:37.11 | dorileo | stew: when this idea(apt-secure) was borned? |
| 03:37.11 | unstable | ceplma: 3 lines isn't flood. |
| 03:37.21 | unstable | ceplma: And flood is typically pasting I'm typing fast. |
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| 03:37.26 | ceplma | unstable: how big monitor you have? |
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| 03:37.40 | stew | dorileo: the idea is a few years old afaik but the implementation is only a year or so old |
| 03:37.43 | unstable | ceplma: My resolution is 15,000 x 10000 and I have 3 monitors |
| 03:37.59 | stew | danieldg: i would *think* that was new enough but if its looking for packages which don't exist, it seems like it isn't |
| 03:38.05 | ceplma | unstable: OK, then for you flooding is anything over half of the line ;-) |
| 03:38.19 | danieldg | stew: well, I just rebooted, so I'm trying again |
| 03:39.31 | StijnT | can anyone tell me how to create a kernel with "make-kpkg" that will be able to boot from a root fs on LVM ? |
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| 03:39.53 | jnc | StijnT: the key element is that you'll be building an initial ramdisk to pass to the bootloader |
| 03:39.55 | stew | StijnT: do you have a reason to compile in the first place? why not just use a debian kernel? |
| 03:40.04 | StijnT | stew: because I need XEN |
| 03:40.21 | jnc | StijnT: may i suggest *NOT* having root on LVM? |
| 03:40.23 | stew | StijnT: you will need the --initrd option, and you will need to use lilo and not grub |
| 03:40.27 | stew | jnc: why not? |
| 03:40.31 | jnc | it will save you a lot of freaking trouble, mate |
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| 03:40.42 | jnc | :) |
| 03:40.45 | stew | jnc: i had no problems whatsoever using a debian kernel |
| 03:40.52 | StijnT | stew: the initrd option didn't do anything, it told me to create an initrd myself in the end |
| 03:41.21 | stew | StijnT: i've never heard of that. did it give some associated warining? like couldn't find an appropriate initrd tool? |
| 03:41.24 | jnc | hey i liked it too, but if you're going to be practical, root-on-LVM is a waste of time |
| 03:41.37 | StijnT | jnc: yeah, I came to that conclusion but the debian linux-image boots fine so it is possible ... |
| 03:41.58 | nuzuno | what is the name of the mplayerplug-in package for debian? a site i visited mentioned it as 'mozilla-mplayer' but i can't find it in debian-marillat repo. |
| 03:41.58 | jnc | LVM is beautiful otherwise |
| 03:42.30 | StijnT | stew: I have initramfs-tools installed |
| 03:42.44 | killown | as i show root-tail in rox-desktop? |
| 03:43.01 | StijnT | stew: I could recompile the kernel to find the msg, but didn't really gave much info, iirc. |
| 03:43.12 | StijnT | maybe it's because of the xen patch |
| 03:43.37 | stew | StijnT: in any case, it is impossible to boot root off lvm without an initrd afaik |
| 03:43.38 | jnc | the transition to a cpio initramfs archive was a nice little shock to me, month ago |
| 03:43.39 | danieldg | stew: now I'm getting "W: Failure while unpacking required packages" |
| 03:43.48 | xin | jnc: ceplma: StijnT: AlienX: Thanks |
| 03:43.50 | jnc | "mkinitrd not found" huhh...? |
| 03:43.51 | jnc | heh |
| 03:44.03 | StijnT | jnc: mkinitrd is for older kernels, iirc |
| 03:44.20 | cheal | nuzuno: mozilla-mplayer |
| 03:44.25 | lostson | hmm maybe mepis |
| 03:44.43 | jnc | StijnT: yeah... i was screaming about it too, "IT has _always_ been initrd, why oh why, must it change?" |
| 03:44.50 | StijnT | :( |
| 03:44.56 | StijnT | I tried with "lvm2create_initrd" too, but no luck |
| 03:45.07 | dn4 | public static void selectionSort(Comparable [] list) { <-- how would you make it so that instead of a Comparable [] list it takes an ArrayList |
| 03:45.14 | nuzuno | cheal: i thought so too but it is not it the debian-marillat repo, etch or sid. |
| 03:45.21 | StijnT | I'll just not use LVM, if it's that big PITA to get root on LVM, then I will not like to use it |
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| 03:45.38 | jnc | after reading the new info about the cpio ramfs image, it's kind of logical that the progression happened. a little tricky to edit and hack on the initrd though, compared to an ext2 fs initrd |
| 03:45.55 | cheal | !tell nuzuno about info mozilla-player etch |
| 03:46.04 | cheal | !tell nuzuno about info mozilla-mplayer etch |
| 03:46.05 | Thanatermesis | stew good news, can you posible to enter on #elive-unstable ? |
| 03:46.35 | NOthsouth | lol, why apt can't find glibc-2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 ? |
| 03:47.00 | StijnT | stew, jnc: thanks, I will just kick LVM in the nuts and use /dev/sd* |
| 03:47.26 | jnc | StijnT: for rootfs partition, i contend that ext3 is the most reliable and well tested option |
| 03:47.41 | NOthsouth | I just want install locales.. |
| 03:47.46 | StijnT | jnc: I'm always using XFS on servers |
| 03:47.54 | StijnT | jnc: only not for /boot |
| 03:47.58 | jnc | ah |
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| 03:48.29 | jnc | i'm not too thrilled about the XFS implementation in Linux Kernels |
| 03:48.37 | StijnT | but since XFS doesn't support shrinking a partition, it might not be that useful with LVM anyway |
| 03:49.25 | StijnT | jnc: I only noticed one 'severe' problem with XFS and CONFIG_4KSTACKS in Sarge's kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 03:49.30 | nuzuno | cheal: that tells me about the package. it does not tell me where to find it. i have tried debian-marillat, etch and sid, and apt-cache search or -show gives no mozilla-mplayer. |
| 03:49.44 | StijnT | jnc: but pretty easy to solve, don't use 4KSTACKS :) |
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| 03:49.47 | cheal | nuzuno: it's in contrib |
| 03:49.48 | jnc | heh |
| 03:50.01 | StijnT | although it works fine in newer kernels |
| 03:50.08 | Roey | hi, anyone know if Comcast throttles (i.e. controls the speed of) non-http (like SSH or OpenVPN) connections? |
| 03:50.37 | nuzuno | but dpkg says contrib/misc is optional. |
| 03:51.01 | cheal | nuzuno: and what's the problem? |
| 03:51.21 | NOthsouth | where can i find this package glibc-2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 ? |
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| 03:51.48 | nuzuno | cheal: optional means u can either have it or ignore it, right? |
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| 03:54.08 | cheal | nuzuno: it means more than that, it's a package priority. normally, package with priorities optional and extra are not installed by default |
| 03:54.15 | nuzuno | cheal: when i add in 'contrib' to the sources.list line, i get: |
| 03:54.19 | nuzuno | Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/etch/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file? |
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| 03:54.48 | cheal | nuzuno: it's in Debian's contrib, not in Marillat's (AFAIK) |
| 03:55.07 | offthatop | Can anyone help me mount my NTSF drives? I know they are hdb1 and hdb5, but I can't get it to recognize them |
| 03:55.16 | nuzuno | cheal: can u give me the sources.list entry in full? |
| 03:56.51 | cheal | nuzuno: there could be about as many sources.list entries as there are Debian mirrors. see /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list if you want one |
| 03:57.01 | Dwonis | offthatop: try modprobe ntfs |
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| 03:57.45 | jazbo2185 | I hate ide-scsi |
| 03:58.07 | zinx | then don't use it? |
| 03:58.41 | nuzuno | cheal: how about this one? deb ftp://ftp... testing main non-free contrib |
| 03:58.42 | offthatop | It says command not found |
| 03:58.50 | jnc | ide-scsi is the bane of cdrmanity. |
| 03:59.42 | cheal | nuzuno: that should be OK if the address is the one of a full Debian mirror |
| 04:00.47 | jazbo2185 | zinx, if only I know how to burn without using it |
| 04:01.03 | jazbo2185 | Not that I know how to burn with using it either |
| 04:01.15 | zinx | jazbo2185: nearly exactly the same you burn when using it. |
| 04:01.31 | cheal | offthatop: as root |
| 04:01.31 | zinx | jazbo2185: except you use the ide device name not the scsi device name |
| 04:01.52 | zinx | jazbo2185: debian should handle most of that stuff for you, just install a burning app |
| 04:02.00 | zinx | jazbo2185: and debian doesn't default to using ide-scsi afaik....... |
| 04:03.06 | offthatop | when I modprobe ntfs nothing happened? |
| 04:03.28 | Thanatermesis | stew ok, it mounts perfectly without extra things on this version of ivman :) im looking now for mount it on /media/ipod (needed for compatibility with the ipod applications) |
| 04:04.11 | jazbo2185 | zinx, I do `burn -A dev=ATA -a *.wav` and I get http://pastebin.com/682339 |
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| 04:08.02 | jnc | jazbo2185: what device do you have? |
| 04:08.26 | jazbo2185 | jnc, 'SONY ' 'CD-RW CRX220E1 ' '6YS1' Removable CD-ROM |
| 04:08.37 | jnc | jazbo2185: AFAIK try 'cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI:0,0,0' |
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| 04:08.50 | jnc | i don't think "ATA" is valid |
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| 04:10.04 | leighm | my 3w_9xxx driver card isnt working, the module is loaded but /dev/sda1 says "invalid block device" when i try to access it, any ideas? |
| 04:10.06 | leighm | 2.6.8 |
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| 04:11.28 | cshaman | Hello, everyone. |
| 04:11.30 | jazbo2185 | jnc, what should I use instead of ATA? |
| 04:11.36 | cshaman | Does anyone here use Window Maker? |
| 04:11.49 | dondelelcaro | cshaman: just ask your question, if someone knows, they'll answer. |
| 04:12.03 | jnc | jazbo2185: did i just not show you exactly what to use instead of ATA? |
| 04:12.07 | jnc | please try... |
| 04:12.21 | jnc | cshaman: i used to |
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| 04:12.25 | jnc | i love windowmaker |
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| 04:14.19 | offthatop | Can anyone here help me mount my NTFS drives hdb1 and hdb5? |
| 04:15.15 | zasz | what happens when you try mounting them |
| 04:15.28 | offthatop | I don't know, I haven't gotten that far... |
| 04:15.58 | cshaman | I like windowmaker, too. |
| 04:16.00 | jnc | offthatop: readwrite, or readonly |
| 04:16.00 | cshaman | It's fast. |
| 04:16.11 | jnc | windowmaker provides exactly the workflow i wanted |
| 04:16.12 | offthatop | Well, actually it says it isn't in my fstab or mtab |
| 04:16.14 | jazbo2185 | Am I going to have problems with ide-scsi etc. no matter what prog I use to burn or are those problems specific to burn/cdrecord? |
| 04:16.14 | cshaman | The reason I ask is simple. What is the "WMClip" windowmaker module for? |
| 04:16.21 | jnc | i've managed to make metacity sort of act like windowmaker |
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| 04:16.39 | jnc | WMClip is for um.. applets? i think |
| 04:16.57 | jnc | it is a simple way to change workspaces |
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| 04:19.19 | calmofthestorm7 | so question: in a moment of sleep-deprived stupidity, I executed "chown root -R /usr/bin". This lost me all the bits such as sticky and suid. Is there some way I can restore things to their proper state short of looking at the files one at a time? |
| 04:19.35 | iter | no |
| 04:19.51 | calmofthestorm7 | no "apt-get magical_cureall" call |
| 04:19.51 | calmofthestorm7 | damn |
| 04:20.05 | iter | if you have a box with a known good configuration you could overwrite |
| 04:20.15 | jnc | that is true |
| 04:20.20 | calmofthestorm7 | moot point |
| 04:20.25 | calmofthestorm7 | I don't have it |
| 04:20.31 | jnc | you could sort of script it to go through every file and dupe the ownerships |
| 04:20.34 | calmofthestorm7 | could I reconfigure each package? |
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| 04:20.38 | offthatop | When I try to mount my NTFS drives hdb1 and hdb5 it tells me they aren't in my fstab or mtab |
| 04:20.39 | jazbo2185 | jnc, actually `cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI:0,0,0` seems to return the same thing as `cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA` |
| 04:21.01 | jnc | jazbo2185: thanks for the news flash |
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| 04:22.39 | jazbo2185 | I must say I too am feeling a bit grumpy. Four hours and I'm still getting the same exact error message as when I started... ;) |
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| 04:27.40 | Thanatermesis | stew bad news... USB disk's not works now :/ |
| 04:27.56 | Thanatermesis | stew IvmConfig/IvmConfigCommon.c:214 (ivm_device_is_mountable) Device /dev/sdb1 won't be mounted because no mount policy was specified on volume or storage device and storage device does not appear to be removable |
| 04:30.28 | cshaman | Do you all normally use your workspaces for different programs? |
| 04:30.35 | cshaman | For instance, one workspace is for terminals, etc. |
| 04:31.27 | jla | I use to use multiple workspaces. i'd even have X program auto-load in wsY. I've gotten lazy or tired of finding where X was or alt-tab works for me 'cause I just use one anymore. |
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| 04:33.09 | nvz | cshaman: please dont poll here, its not a good idea |
| 04:33.30 | AlienX | heh |
| 04:35.00 | nvz | they say opinions are like assholes (everyone's got one and nobody wants to hear it) and it can start to smell really shitty in here with 700 assholes :P |
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| 04:37.05 | jla | no opinions on #debian? wow. no wonder it's so quiet. |
| 04:37.15 | jla | nice |
| 04:37.28 | jazbo2185 | Aaaahhhhhh hahahahah! Finally got burning to work |
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| 04:40.16 | nvz | you cant just put a public opinion poll in here |
| 04:40.28 | nvz | especially when it leads nowhere |
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| 04:40.38 | Thanatermesis | exist a way to use bootsplash in the boot without garbage the initrd ? |
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| 04:41.40 | nvz | magic |
| 04:41.50 | shogunx | nvz the next thing you know it will become a telemarketer party line. |
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| 04:46.55 | stoned | what is the command to find out which version of debian is running |
| 04:47.08 | stoned | not linux version like uname -a |
| 04:47.11 | shogunx | !bongswat |
| 04:47.11 | dpkg | somebody said bongswat was "Hit the bong, man!" |
| 04:49.17 | dondelelcaro | stoned: apt-cache policy and cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 04:50.29 | nvz | wtf |
| 04:51.00 | stoned | thanks |
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| 04:51.50 | nvz | shogunx: I'm glad you learned to work the bot, impressive contribution to its function :P |
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| 04:53.47 | boolka | Hi, I've finally decided to install Debian, I would like to know how big of a difference between 'testing' and 'unstable' |
| 04:53.56 | buu | Hrm. If I plug in a usb hd, what device does it show up as? |
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| 04:54.18 | shogunx | nvz the bot is pretty nice. |
| 04:54.21 | nvz | buu: probably sda, sdb, ..etc |
| 04:54.34 | nvz | shogunx: yeah I think he lost a few IQ points on you |
| 04:54.36 | chealer | boolka: run an etch/sid mix, and you'll see |
| 04:54.45 | arun3333 | !debain lists |
| 04:54.46 | buu | nvz: Hrm. I think those are wear my sata drives are.. |
| 04:54.52 | arun3333 | !debian lists |
| 04:55.01 | nvz | buu: *nod* |
| 04:55.02 | boolka | chealer, you mean install 2 debians ? |
| 04:55.22 | nvz | buu: those are sd_mod device nodes. for the scsi disk module |
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| 04:55.41 | chealer | boolka: no, install 1 with packages from testing by default, or optionally from unstable |
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| 04:56.39 | jla | boolka: using testing is often like walking down the middle of the road. squish like grape. (oops, was that another opinion answer?) |
| 04:56.44 | buu | nvz: It is a little complicated. |
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| 04:57.21 | shogunx | nvz the brain is an electrical system. electricity representing the nervous impulses from sensory input take the path of least resistence through the brian. certain stimuli alters the path of the electrical signals by opening certain neuroreceptors and transmitters, effectively changing the path of least resistence. hence, certain stimuli encourage use of more of your brain than normal. |
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| 04:57.54 | buu | nvz: sda-sdj are other hard drives. |
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| 04:58.57 | daeos | anyone have some SVN expierence? i'm trying to setup svn and am stuck after using the svnadmin program to make a basic folder for a repository... how can i make an actual project folder with the ability to access and make changes? |
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| 04:59.20 | boolka | I woud like to do the net install to get the latest packages right away, but I see only 'stable' image for net install |
| 04:59.27 | boolka | is there a unstable and testing? |
| 04:59.41 | buu | nvz: And I am unable to open sdk |
| 04:59.41 | buu | boolka: No. |
| 04:59.52 | jla | daeos: import or mkdir probably. red bean book is online and good |
| 05:00.13 | buu | daeos: svmadmin creates "project folder", you then need to check it out or import files. Please read the book. |
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| 05:00.57 | nvz | buu: read through your dmesg to figure out what is or is not claiming that usb device then |
| 05:01.09 | buu | nvz: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 |
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| 05:01.55 | boolka | Is there a guide to help me through the install? |
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| 05:02.42 | buu | nvz: modprobe usb-storage =] |
| 05:02.48 | buu | !debinstall |
| 05:02.49 | nvz | buu: that message means nothing to me other than some usb 2.0 controller detected a usb 2.0 device on 1:1 and assigned it address 2 which in and of itself is useless information |
| 05:02.53 | buu | shucks |
| 05:02.58 | buu | !d-i |
| 05:02.58 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
| 05:04.05 | mrgenixus | looking for a way to configure alsa for ac '97 sound (i810 flavor) on a debina-based liveCD (gnome 2.12-live) the card is recognized and identified by lspci, but alsamizer returns 'function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory' and while the gentoo manual indicates thi can be correcte by running alsaconf this appears to be a gentoo-only tool, since I can't find it on this CD |
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| 05:04.13 | mrgenixus | any ideas? |
| 05:04.49 | nvz | yeah dont ask about that here |
| 05:04.52 | dondelelcaro | mrgenixus: just load the right i810 module; it's something like snd_drv_i810 or something. |
| 05:04.57 | jnc | hence it is a *gentoo manual* and does not apply to #debian' |
| 05:05.05 | mrgenixus | I think that's loaded |
| 05:05.09 | jnc | #debian's topic, the Debian GNU/Linux os |
| 05:05.11 | nvz | the gentoo manual that is, I've never read it |
| 05:05.24 | dondelelcaro | mrgenixus: but in any case, you should be asking in the support channel for the liveCD that you're using, since it's their problem. |
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| 05:05.55 | dondelelcaro | in Debian, udev would have loaded the right module from the Debian kernel, and you'd be able to use the card already. |
| 05:06.16 | mrgenixus | there's no channel AFAIK for the gnome 2.12 it's kindof a use-at-your-own-risk |
| 05:06.32 | dondelelcaro | mrgenixus: then ask on their mailing list... |
| 05:06.37 | boolka | Does debian have a graphical installer? |
| 05:06.41 | dondelelcaro | mrgenixus: we can only give support for Debian here. |
| 05:06.42 | mrgenixus | hmm |
| 05:06.43 | dondelelcaro | boolka: yes. |
| 05:07.03 | chealer | boolka: yes, there are testing netinst image. Debian's default install is not "graphical" |
| 05:07.03 | mrgenixus | dondelelcaro: well, if you were configuring alsa on debian how would you do it? |
| 05:07.12 | dondelelcaro | mrgenixus: I already told you |
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| 05:07.26 | dondelelcaro | the answer is, udev does it for you. |
| 05:07.27 | mrgenixus | and snd_drv_i810 is not a valid module name -- no such module exists |
| 05:07.37 | buu | dondelelcaro: Help! |
| 05:07.38 | boolka | chealer, could you point me for testing netinst image, and how do I install via the graphical installer/ |
| 05:07.38 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: find i810 |
| 05:07.49 | dondelelcaro | !tell boolka -about netinst |
| 05:07.51 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'i810' (5 of 39): (/usr/lib/dri/i810_dri.so) in libs/libgl1-mesa-dri ;; (/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/i810-HOWTO.gz) in doc/doc-linux-text ;; (/usr/share/doc/lm-sensors/doc/busses/i2c-i810) in utils/lm-sensors ;; (/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/ja-txt/i810-HOWTO.txt.gz) in doc/doc-linux-ja-text ;; (/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so) in x11/xserver-xorg-video-i810. |
| 05:08.06 | chealer | boolka: I don't think you want to use the graphical installer |
| 05:08.11 | dondelelcaro | boolka: unless you're planning on helping with d-i, you shouldn't be using the graphical installer. Just use the normal one. |
| 05:08.21 | nvz | mrgenixus: btw gnome 2.14 is in sid and etch |
| 05:08.28 | boolka | dondelelcaro d-i? |
| 05:08.29 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: find i810.ko |
| 05:08.33 | boolka | chealer, why not |
| 05:08.39 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'i810.ko' (2 of 7): (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-k7/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i810.ko, /lib/modules/2.6.16-1-k7/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-i810.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.16-1-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-486/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i810.ko, /lib/modules/2.6.16-1-486/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-i810.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.16-1-486. |
| 05:08.47 | chealer | nvz: only part of GNOME 2.14 is even in sid |
| 05:09.02 | chealer | boolka: because it's still alpha software |
| 05:09.14 | mrgenixus | nvz: ...? I'm using a gnome2.12 liveCD because that's what I have... ty though. |
| 05:09.19 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro: snd-intel8x0.ko |
| 05:09.30 | dondelelcaro | Dwonis: thanks |
| 05:09.36 | daeos | jla; buu; i've looked at the book on red bean, and can't find anything on making a project folder... ;/ |
| 05:09.38 | nvz | chealer: oh? well I was only checking version numbers on packages off the top of my head at random :P |
| 05:09.55 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 05:10.21 | jla | daeos: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch03s02.html |
| 05:10.59 | jla | daeos: have you used cvs? maybe a "project folder" means something different to you than me |
| 05:11.07 | chealer | nvz: yeah, well there's a comprehensive Status of GNOME 2.14 in Debian page at http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-2.14-status.html |
| 05:11.49 | daeos | i've never used cvs |
| 05:12.08 | kristalino | morning #debian |
| 05:12.31 | Dwonis | !greet kristalino |
| 05:12.31 | dpkg | Bonjour, kristalino |
| 05:12.51 | jla | daeos: is your "project folder" calc and paint in the graphic on this page: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch02s03.html |
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| 05:13.09 | nvz | chealer: ah, well close enough ;) |
| 05:13.44 | daeos | jla: yeah |
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| 05:14.18 | jla | daeos: you use the svn mkdir command or import some directories to make those |
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| 05:15.18 | daeos | jla: i get an error using the mkdir command in svn..let me show you |
| 05:15.33 | jla | daeos: lets switch to #subversion |
| 05:16.54 | mrgenixus | if you were going to configure also to run an i810 audio device and alsamixer was saying that snd_ctl_open failed -- file not found how could you correct this porblem? |
| 05:17.16 | boolka | chealer i still cant find testing netinst..... only see stable |
| 05:18.01 | chealer | boolka: did you check the factoid that dondelelcaro triggered? |
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| 05:18.09 | StereoSkit | dudes, id like to cooperate translating manual pages to spanish language, im new on this, i have downloaded the source of a package but i cant find the SGML document for the manual page, is it under any partcular name or so? |
| 05:18.32 | boolka | chealer i followed the link that the bot gave me... i see stable |
| 05:18.40 | chealer | !netinst |
| 05:18.41 | dpkg | well, netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection. see http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst If you use a dialup connection, ask me about dialup install. |
| 05:18.54 | dondelelcaro | boolka: read the top of that page. |
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| 05:19.09 | StereoSkit | dpkg: ,source |
| 05:19.09 | dpkg | source is probably To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space and run the following: apt-get install build-essential fakeroot && apt-get source <packagename> && apt-get build-dep <packagename>. Then cd into source directory and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to build debs from source. |
| 05:19.32 | buu | Ok, I plugged a usb hard drive in to my box and modprobed usb-storage. dmesg says it came up, scan and set it to device sdk |
| 05:19.35 | daeos | don't see you there jla |
| 05:19.37 | StereoSkit | dpkg: ,SGML |
| 05:19.37 | dpkg | <bugg> It's like HTML on steroids. Except it doesn't have breasts. |
| 05:19.52 | nvz | heh |
| 05:19.52 | buu | However when I attempt to access /dev/sdk, via fdisk for example, it fails with a "cannot find file" type error. |
| 05:19.54 | StereoSkit | dpkg: ,translating |
| 05:20.03 | chealer | boolka: so, I guess you ended up on http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ ? |
| 05:20.27 | boolka | ooh i see |
| 05:20.28 | chealer | !tell StereoSkit about msg the bot |
| 05:20.28 | boolka | my bad |
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| 05:20.56 | buu | The stupid thing shows up in /proc/scsi/scsi |
| 05:21.05 | buu | But I can't seem to figure out what I need to do to access it |
| 05:21.12 | boolka | etch is testing? |
| 05:21.13 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: netinst =~ s#distrib/netinst#CD/netinst# |
| 05:21.13 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
| 05:21.16 | dondelelcaro | boolka: yes. |
| 05:21.23 | StereoSkit | chealer: i think i was messaging the bot /o\ |
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| 05:21.28 | voltagex | how do I switch between default gcc versions? (i.e. the one that's used when I type 'make') |
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| 05:21.50 | chealer | StereoSkit: I meant...do it in private, not on the channel |
| 05:21.59 | StereoSkit | ok |
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| 05:22.10 | buu | dondelelcaro: ! |
| 05:22.13 | dondelelcaro | buu: ? |
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| 05:22.22 | buu | dondelelcaro: Help me find my usb drive |
| 05:22.29 | Azar | :) |
| 05:22.31 | dondelelcaro | buu: does /dev/sdk exist? |
| 05:22.46 | dondelelcaro | buu: if you're not using udev, have you cd /dev; MAKEDEV sdk; yet? |
| 05:23.11 | chealer | dondelelcaro: I guess that's fair... when I rewrote that factoid, it talked about floppy images, so I let it a page above :) |
| 05:23.18 | boolka | alrighty, im downlaoding it. Good night everyone, thanks for help. Hopefully next time ill be here, will be from debian :D |
| 05:23.33 | buu | dondelelcaro: I just did that, silently nothing happens. |
| 05:23.36 | Azar | I want to learn a new trick: all the info displayed on the terminal on reboot, where goes so I can check it whenever I need ? |
| 05:23.58 | dondelelcaro | buu: it'll make sdk silently in most cases. does /dev/sdk or /dev/.static/sdk exist? |
| 05:23.59 | shogunx | Azur dmesg |
| 05:24.07 | Azar | shogunx: thanks :) |
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| 05:24.30 | dondelelcaro | you're doing this as root, of course... |
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| 05:24.51 | buu | dondelelcaro: Nope. |
| 05:25.03 | buu | dondelelcaro: Er, yes, no |
| 05:25.06 | buu | No, wait. |
| 05:25.19 | buu | Neither /dev/sdk or /dev/.static/sdk exist and I am root =] |
| 05:26.49 | dondelelcaro | buu: and you did this after a cd /dev; right? |
| 05:26.49 | buu | dondelelcaro: I did indeed. |
| 05:26.49 | jla | Azar: dmsg doesn't catch it all, and bootlogd may need tweaking in init order to catch it all /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 05:26.49 | dondelelcaro | buu: does .static exist? are you running devfs? |
| 05:26.58 | buu | dondelelcaro: .static exists |
| 05:27.05 | dondelelcaro | buu: you're running udev. |
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| 05:27.30 | dondelelcaro | udev, unless it's totally broken, should have created the right /dev/sdk devices for you |
| 05:27.34 | Azar | jla thanks, for a general idea what's going on so far is ok |
| 05:27.48 | dondelelcaro | (it should also have loaded the right usb devices) |
| 05:27.53 | Azar | ..just curious to see it take off |
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| 05:28.42 | buu | dondelelcaro: Perhaps I need to load a module? |
| 05:29.04 | dondelelcaro | buu: if you've got usb support loaded, it should have done all of that for you too |
| 05:29.16 | buu | Well, I seem to.. |
| 05:29.18 | dondelelcaro | buu: usbms, sbp, scsi... etc. |
| 05:29.43 | buu | dondelelcaro: Well.. |
| 05:29.58 | nse | my RAM died. |
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| 05:30.00 | dondelelcaro | buu: is this a Debian kernel? |
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| 05:30.26 | buu | dondelelcaro: Yes. |
| 05:30.32 | buu | Although it is a "backport" |
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| 05:32.01 | buu | This can't be that hard =[ |
| 05:32.08 | Azar | amazing it correctly found and initiate my old iomega zip drive! wow |
| 05:32.50 | Evil_Pink_Robot | I have a problem when i run make xconfig, here's the error message scripts/kconfig/qconf.cc:1399: error: 'configApp' was not declared in this scope | any suggestions? |
| 05:32.57 | Evil_Pink_Robot | its probably missing a library |
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| 05:33.17 | Evil_Pink_Robot | actually it is one of many error messages |
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| 05:34.45 | Dwonis | Evil_Pink_Robot: Is that the _first_ error you encounter? |
| 05:36.22 | Evil_Pink_Robot | Dwonis: no, scripts/kconfig/qconf.cc:6:26: error: qapplication.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:36.22 | Evil_Pink_Robot | scripts/kconfig/qconf.cc:7:25: error: qmainwindow.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:36.28 | Evil_Pink_Robot | those are the first two |
| 05:36.36 | jm_ | surprising eh |
| 05:36.37 | Dwonis | Evil_Pink_Robot: ah, yeah, you're missing a library |
| 05:36.45 | Evil_Pink_Robot | Dwonis: do you know which one? |
| 05:36.51 | Dwonis | !tell Evil_Pink_Robot about xconfig |
| 05:37.22 | Evil_Pink_Robot | aaah |
| 05:38.53 | nse | !tell nse about xconfig |
| 05:39.16 | prudhvi | Evil_Pink_Robot, are you trying to compile a kernel make xconfig ? |
| 05:39.36 | Evil_Pink_Robot | prudhvi: yes i am |
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| 05:39.53 | Dwonis | !tell nse about msg the bot |
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| 05:40.29 | Evil_Pink_Robot | prudhvi: i dont particularly like gconfig, xconfig makes it easier to see all the options |
| 05:41.00 | unstable | I'm trying to make my first useful script on my Debian GNU/Linux laptop. I download archives(compressed with rar) and I want to extract the archives as they are being downloaded. Now the unrar program that runs natively on GNU/linux which I use to extract these archives has a mode where it can wait for the user to input a letter, and hit enter.( the letter is c for continue ) http://pastebin.com/682310 <- example |
| 05:41.06 | Dwonis | pff.. you kids. "make oldconfig ; vim .config" is clearly the way to go |
| 05:41.11 | unstable | I download these archives, and first I download a sfv file, which has a crc32 one way has for each file.(to ensure I downloaded the archive without error) I want to make a shell script, that uses unrar, and when unrar gives it a dialogue like on pastebin.com and it wants the user to input c and hit enter, instead of waiting for the user, it will do "cfv filethatneedstobedownloaded" and if that hash matches the one in the sfv file(gets downloade |
| 05:41.21 | unstable | I want to make it so every 15 seconds, it will do "cfv filethatneedstobedownloaded" and if the file is done downloading, and the hash matching the hash in the sfv file, it will input c into the unrar program |
| 05:41.32 | prudhvi | Evil_Pink_Robot, then you need libqt3dev packages |
| 05:41.34 | Evil_Pink_Robot | Dwonis: thanks for your help, libqt3-dev had been obsoleted, so now there are other packages which need to be installed.. everything works now |
| 05:41.38 | nse | !tell Dwonis about one line |
| 05:41.46 | Evil_Pink_Robot | prudhvi: yeah, i just apt-got installed it, thanks |
| 05:42.03 | unstable | I've never really programed or anything before. I didn't think this script was that hard to make though, anyone have any guides or suggestions for me? ( links ) |
| 05:42.08 | Evil_Pink_Robot | prudhvi: libqt3-dev is obsolete now, you have to get the replacement packages which apt prompts you for |
| 05:42.11 | Dwonis | nse: yeah... I didn't really mean what dpkg said... it was more a "you *can* /msg dpkg, rather than !tell myself about stuff" |
| 05:43.04 | prudhvi | Evil_Pink_Robot, libqt-mt-dev ? |
| 05:43.13 | nse | Dwonis: I understand (: |
| 05:43.14 | prudhvi | Evil_Pink_Robot, libqt3-mt-dev ? |
| 05:43.22 | Evil_Pink_Robot | prudhvi: yeah, that one is needed |
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| 05:43.48 | Serial | Holas |
| 05:43.53 | Serial | alguien de aqui habla español :P |
| 05:43.57 | buu | dondelelcaro: Can I cycle udev or some such maybe? |
| 05:44.05 | powder | hola senor |
| 05:44.08 | dondelelcaro | !es |
| 05:44.08 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 05:44.20 | Serial | dondelelcaro yes i know |
| 05:44.24 | Evil_Pink_Robot | thanks for your help Dwonis , prudhvi |
| 05:44.35 | Serial | i wish speak here persons :P |
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| 05:45.41 | lehel | hello.. i'm on a new deb setup, i've 120G [20/60/40 HDDs], how should i partition them? |
| 05:45.55 | Dwonis | anyone know how to un-detach a tab in xchat? (and yes, I know I should probably be using irssi) |
| 05:45.59 | dondelelcaro | Serial: that's fine; discusion here is just in english... |
| 05:46.09 | Dwonis | nevermind |
| 05:46.23 | Dwonis | XChat menu -> Attach Window... |
| 05:46.45 | powder | what's irssi? |
| 05:46.51 | lehel | *anyone? |
| 05:46.51 | Dwonis | !irssi |
| 05:46.52 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, irssi is the best irc client ever, or found in the irssi-text package |
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| 05:47.11 | Dwonis | !factinfo irssi |
| 05:47.11 | dpkg | irssi -- last modified at Mon May 23 03:24:01 2005 by kelan!~kurt@68.101.16.64; it has been requested 32 times, last by iixi at Sat Nov 26 02:08:41 2005. |
| 05:47.14 | Serial | dondelelcaro hehehe ok :( |
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| 05:47.58 | lehel | ho should i allocate the fs?\ |
| 05:48.07 | StijnT | too bad irssi + screen + utf8 doesn't work like it should :( |
| 05:48.52 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: sure it does... |
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| 05:48.58 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: doesn't for me |
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| 05:49.17 | dondelelcaro | or should I say, sürë ït döës... |
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| 05:50.04 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: you have to have LANG set to a UTF8 locale both before starting irssi, and before starting screen. |
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| 05:50.11 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: well I'm having problems with alt+ some numbers to change the current window |
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| 05:50.17 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: that is done |
| 05:50.23 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: that's totally different. |
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| 05:50.31 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: works without UTF8 |
| 05:50.44 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: you need to set XTerm*sends8Bit: false or similar. |
| 05:50.59 | lehel | hello Gnea: i'm on a deb setup, i've 120G [20/60/40 HDDs], how should i partition [allocate the fs] them? |
| 05:51.06 | dondelelcaro | (or UXTerm*sends8bit:...) |
| 05:51.30 | dondelelcaro | s/sends8bit/8BitInput/ |
| 05:51.33 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: hmmm, can I do that with putty ? |
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| 05:52.02 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: uh... if it doesn't work with putty, that's because putty is sending the totally wrong characters or has the wrong termcap set up. |
| 05:52.15 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: try using escape instead, or fixing putty to do the right thing. |
| 05:52.16 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: or should I do that somewhere else? (I'm always using SSH to my machine with screen/irssi) |
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| 05:52.28 | zam | what is agood gui programs that i can use to get gnu pg |
| 05:52.30 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: also doesn't work with openssh from my gentoo laptop |
| 05:52.31 | Dwonis | I just have "XTerm*utf8: 1" and "*VT100*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1" to get a UTF-8 xterm |
| 05:52.53 | nse | lehel: you can partition them the way you want. better is if you read the installation howto at tdlp.org |
| 05:53.04 | jm_ | zam: gpa, tkpgp |
| 05:53.06 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: again, that has to do with the terminal that you're connecting to screen from and the resultant termcap. |
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| 05:54.03 | lehel | k, nse |
| 05:54.21 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: any good docs on that "issue"? it's bugging me for way too many years now |
| 05:54.54 | xerophyte | can i able to split the tar archive file into small parts ?? i have huge folder which has 12G of data |
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| 05:54.58 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: first off, see if it happens when you're using xterm on the Debian box. |
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| 05:55.10 | dondelelcaro | xerophyte: just use split. |
| 05:55.11 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: the debian box has no VGA |
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| 05:55.31 | entuall | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.13 | Serial | www.mundolinux.org new site community linux :) |
| 05:56.13 | xerophyte | dondelelcaro, how can i join them |
| 05:56.21 | Dwonis | xerophyte: cat |
| 05:56.29 | unstable | dondelelcaro: any idea? |
| 05:56.29 | Serial | lilo :) |
| 05:56.36 | xerophyte | Dwonis, its binary files |
| 05:56.46 | Dwonis | xerophyte: so? cat foo.aa foo.ab foo.ac | tar xf - |
| 05:56.52 | dondelelcaro | xerophyte: with cat. |
| 05:57.09 | Dwonis | xerophyte: split and cat work on binary files. This isn't Windows. |
| 05:57.23 | dondelelcaro | Serial: please don't advertize here.... |
| 05:57.31 | Serial | ups sorry |
| 05:57.43 | Serial | i not know |
| 05:57.44 | Serial | sorry |
| 05:57.48 | Serial | my ingles poor hehe :P |
| 05:58.11 | StijnT | lol |
| 05:58.30 | Dwonis | sigh... why is it that people think that it's okay to spam, as long as they haven't been explicitly told not to... |
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| 06:00.10 | tina222 | can anyone tell me how I can find out what device name, if any, linux is giving to my SD card when I plug it into my multimediacard reader |
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| 06:02.56 | Azar | test |
| 06:02.56 | Azar | ok someone is shooting my box |
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| 06:03.18 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:03.18 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 06:04.04 | teledyn | anyone have issues with sound-related apps in sid? |
| 06:04.27 | Dwonis | tina222: This might not be the best way, but you can run "udevcontrol log_priority=info" prior to inserting the card, insert the card, and then check /var/log/syslog for lines that contain "creating symlink" |
| 06:04.31 | dondelelcaro | teledyn: if they did, there would be bugs filed against the relevant packages. |
| 06:04.41 | teledyn | not sure where to check bts for this, but i have like 4 or 5 different apps all not launching |
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| 06:04.58 | teledyn | amarok, totem, vlc none will launch |
| 06:05.05 | dondelelcaro | teledyn: bugs.debian.org/foopkg; /msg dpkg bts |
| 06:05.15 | voltagex | slightly silly question, but which package provides cc? |
| 06:05.40 | teledyn | dondelelcaro: yeah one of the reports was file by me. i straced amarok but couldn't decipher anything from it |
| 06:06.02 | teledyn | a bunch of gettimeofday commands and then timeouts occuring right after them, then a segfault |
| 06:06.11 | tina222 | dwonis, thanks i will try that out |
| 06:06.36 | Dwonis | tina222: you might also be able to use udevinfo, if you know the sysfs path |
| 06:07.08 | jm_ | tina222: or /proc/partitions |
| 06:07.21 | Dwonis | tina222: or, there might be symlinks in /dev/disk |
| 06:07.44 | Dwonis | jm_: pff... you and your simple answers! |
| 06:07.45 | debian | umm..'ed' ranked 72 in popularity contest.... |
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| 06:08.01 | dondelelcaro | debian: yes, because almost every system has it installed. |
| 06:08.27 | tina222 | i just got the laptop so right now I am running BackTrack right from the cd, so some stuff might be a little trickier, ill try those tho |
| 06:08.45 | tina222 | they forgot to send recovery cds so im just making sure they come before wiping the HD |
| 06:08.48 | voltagex | anybody? |
| 06:08.51 | dondelelcaro | teledyn: you'll have to get a coredump; it's possible that you've got a library versioning issue. |
| 06:09.07 | dondelelcaro | !+find bin/cc |
| 06:09.09 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 06:09.10 | dondelelcaro | !tell voltagex -about search |
| 06:09.16 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/cc' (9 of 18): (/usr/bin/cccc) in devel/cccc ;; (/usr/bin/cccd) in sound/cccd ;; (/usr/bin/ccal) in utils/ccal ;; (/usr/bin/ccmake) in devel/cmake ;; (/usr/bin/ccmtcnvt) in devel/liwc ;; (/usr/bin/ccache) in devel/ccache ;; (/usr/bin/ccmalloc) in devel/ccmalloc ;; (/usr/bin/ccmakedep) in x11/xutils-dev ;; (/usr/bin/ccomps) in graphics/graphviz. |
| 06:09.25 | dondelelcaro | !+find bin/cc$ |
| 06:09.30 | debian | dondelelcaro: right, I should look at the 'vote' rank, it's then 384 |
| 06:09.32 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 06:09.48 | dondelelcaro | debian: yerp; there are also a lot of scripts that use ed too |
| 06:09.58 | tina222 | dwonis, udevcontrol is not installed :-/ |
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| 06:10.13 | Dwonis | tina222: what does "uname -r" show? |
| 06:10.14 | voltagex | dondelelcaro: I tried that |
| 06:10.23 | Baloo | How do I get postfix to use postfix-policyd on sid? |
| 06:10.29 | Azar | ok silly question now: since I upgraded to etch are Martin Schultze's e-mail security notifications of use for me? |
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| 06:10.39 | dondelelcaro | voltagex: it's an alternative actually; so multiple packages provide it. |
| 06:10.58 | tina222 | dwonis, 2.6.12.2 |
| 06:11.03 | Dwonis | Azar: they can make you depressed and cynical |
| 06:11.04 | dondelelcaro | voltagex: gcc is one of the packages that provides cc. |
| 06:11.16 | Dwonis | tina222: what does "dpkg -l udev" show? |
| 06:11.24 | tina222 | dwonis, ans im sorry im aware its a debian chatroom but i cant get help anywhere else:-) |
| 06:11.45 | Dwonis | tina222: what distro are you running? |
| 06:11.58 | Azar | Dwonis: no, never, in fact I am getting amazed at such a huge work by everyone there... makes me feel more confident in Debian community |
| 06:12.00 | tina222 | like i said backtrack so its based on slack, so it doesnt have dpkg for sure |
| 06:12.01 | buu | dondelelcaro: Sorry, did you answer my udev question? |
| 06:12.27 | voltagex | dondelelcaro: "gcc-3.4 is already the newest version" |
| 06:12.32 | dondelelcaro | buu: no; I don't personally use udev. Apparently there's a udevctrl or something that you can use to give more information. |
| 06:12.39 | dondelelcaro | voltagex: gcc. Not gcc-3.4 |
| 06:12.52 | voltagex | dondelelcaro: sorry, my bad |
| 06:12.54 | Dwonis | tina222: The reason this is a debian-onlt channel is because solutions that work in Debian don't necessarily work elsewhere. |
| 06:12.54 | tina222 | dwonis are you crying at me? |
| 06:13.06 | Azar | what makes gcc4 then? |
| 06:13.19 | tina222 | i know that, thats why i apoligized i was just trying to get ideas any way possible... is that ok with you? |
| 06:13.33 | Azar | tina222: I guess at your box wearing a chastity belt |
| 06:13.33 | tina222 | i will boot up on my mepis cd tho and will try what you suggested |
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| 06:13.56 | voltagex | my next question is how do I prioritise a repository? As in I'd like to get the packages from another machine on my lan before au.debian.org |
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| 06:14.20 | Azar | voltagex: when you update you can see the order |
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| 06:14.41 | Azar | voltagex: and compare it with your sources order |
| 06:14.41 | Dwonis | tina222: questions about non-Debian systems are offtopic here. I didn't know that "backtrack" was a distro; I thought you were referring to backports. |
| 06:15.03 | voltagex | Azar: thanks. |
| 06:15.14 | powder | never heard of backtrack |
| 06:16.36 | Dwonis | powder: http://www.remote-exploit.org/ apparently. " BackTrack is the result of the merging of two Innovative Penetration Testing live Linux distributions -- Whax and Auditor" |
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| 06:17.26 | buu | dondelelcaro: I seem to lack such a thing. |
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| 06:18.12 | powder | not my cup of tea. :) |
| 06:19.10 | Dwonis | emacs and nvi will be relegated to disc 3 |
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| 06:20.10 | teledyn | at least xine is playing stuff :-\ |
| 06:20.27 | tina222 | dwonis i booted up with backtrack because it is the newest as in most recently released livecd that i currently have. I knew i would appreciate help for the debian distro because almost all of the systems i use except the pen-test live cds are debian based, so im sorry to anyone who needs the channel policed and on topic, but i do thank you for your limited help although i wont expect more now that ive pissed you off |
| 06:20.41 | teledyn | strace of vlc segfault at the end, before that mmap2 |
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| 06:22.08 | powder | another happy customer |
| 06:22.37 | teledyn | hmm "Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon" warning... |
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| 06:22.56 | Dwonis | tina222: It's not so much being pissed off as frustrated, because I don't know anything about backtrack -- so I can't really help you -- and because it wasn't clear to me from the start that "backtrack" means a non-Debian OS. |
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| 06:23.49 | Azar | Dwonis, I wanted popcorn too but I don't have e-mail :( |
| 06:23.59 | Dwonis | Azar: apparenly it can use HTTP now |
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| 06:24.16 | Azar | :) ok I will try it again |
| 06:24.27 | voltagex | distcc is officially amazing... |
| 06:24.52 | Dwonis | voltagex: and also probably severely insecure, so be careful :) |
| 06:24.52 | voltagex | unfortunately time doesn't seem to pass parameters to the command it's timing so I can't time it! |
| 06:25.03 | Dwonis | voltagex: buy yes, it's cool |
| 06:25.11 | Azar | tarzeau can you do me a popcorn? dpkg laughs at me |
| 06:25.15 | dondelelcaro | voltagex: uh... sure it does. |
| 06:25.22 | Dwonis | voltagex: "time" is a bash builtin, I think |
| 06:25.28 | voltagex | Dwonis: ports aren't forwarded for it, LAN only + allow only LAN ips |
| 06:25.31 | peterS | it's both a builtin and a regular command |
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| 06:25.39 | jm_ | indeed, there's /usr/bin/time too |
| 06:25.41 | peterS | the builtin has the advantage of being able to time entire pipelines |
| 06:26.14 | jm_ | me neither |
| 06:26.33 | peterS | huh, who would have thought that I would be the one with time on my hands? |
| 06:26.42 | voltagex | I've just got to set up a local repository properly and I'm sweet |
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| 06:26.47 | voltagex | 3 debian machines set up |
| 06:27.01 | dondelelcaro | voltagex: why not just use apt-proxy or similar instead? |
| 06:27.12 | voltagex | apt-proxy? |
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| 06:28.05 | voltagex | downloading now... |
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| 06:28.29 | voltagex | is Webmin still insecure if it's blocked off from the Internet? |
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| 06:29.05 | Dwonis | voltagex: depends on the attack/threat model |
| 06:29.07 | dondelelcaro | voltagex: it could be. |
| 06:29.18 | dondelelcaro | voltagex: in any case, you really don't want to use webmin. |
| 06:29.27 | Dwonis | !webmin |
| 06:29.27 | dpkg | webmin is probably a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 06:29.29 | dondelelcaro | anyone who requires webmin to administer a machine shouldn't be let near the machine in the first place... |
| 06:29.38 | voltagex | dondelelcaro: it makes my life so much easier it's not funny |
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| 06:29.56 | dondelelcaro | voltagex: uh... that means that it's time to learn your editor, and read some manpages... |
| 06:29.58 | voltagex | I don't *require* it, but it makes things quite a lot easier |
| 06:30.12 | dondelelcaro | there's really nothing that it makes easier... |
| 06:30.23 | Dwonis | voltagex: with _Debian_? |
| 06:30.40 | Dwonis | Debian tends not to suck usability-wise in ways that other distros do |
| 06:31.32 | voltagex | Dwonis: I guess so, I must be a noob. |
| 06:31.57 | Dwonis | voltagex: I haven't used webmin lately, but I find that those kinds of things tend to just get in my way |
| 06:32.54 | Azar | Dwonis installed, do I need to do anything else? or it will automatically send? |
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| 06:34.24 | Dwonis | Azar: I don't know if the default is HTTP or not (I think it is). If you want, run "dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest". It should _ask_ you if you want to use HTT |
| 06:34.31 | Dwonis | Azar: HTTP, that is |
| 06:34.43 | peterS | Dwonis: errr, isn't -plow the default for dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 06:34.43 | Dwonis | Azar: but yeah, it runs via a cron job |
| 06:34.49 | voltagex | bye... thanks for your help |
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| 06:34.54 | Azar | thanks Dwonis |
| 06:35.10 | lehel | hello.. on an already installed system how do i know which of the two [via, realtek] network card is in use [cable plugged in] ? |
| 06:35.25 | Dwonis | peterS: hmm... according to the man page: "dpkg-reconfigure normally shows low priority questions no matter what your default priority is." |
| 06:35.30 | jm_ | lehel: link status will tell you |
| 06:35.31 | Dwonis | peterS: I guess you're right. good. |
| 06:35.51 | peterS | lehel: well, 'ifconfig' by itself will list the interfaces that are configured |
| 06:36.16 | peterS | lehel: a bit of grep through /usr/share/ethereal/manuf (if you have 'ethereal-common' installed) will tell you the vendor of each card, given the first 6 digits of the hardware (MAC) address |
| 06:38.05 | peterS | lehel: for example, I'd expect the address of a VIA NIC to start with 00:40:63 |
| 06:39.12 | Azar | peterS: just for my personal curiosity: doing a lspci wouldn't list the active ethernet card first ? |
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| 06:39.34 | unstable | Can I echo a key into the keyboard device in a bash script? |
| 06:39.37 | peterS | Azar: no, it lists devices in the order they're enumerated on the busses |
| 06:39.53 | unstable | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.55 | Azar | peterS: thanks you helped me avoid an error |
| 06:39.57 | unstable | Will that work or no? |
| 06:39.59 | jm_ | unstable: no, are you still dealing with rar? why bother verifying crc when rar does it for you? |
| 06:40.14 | lehel | peterS: thanks |
| 06:40.21 | unstable | jm_: I don't really care about verifying. |
| 06:40.35 | peterS | lehel: actually if you're on a 2.6 kernel, you can get this info through /sys as well: |
| 06:40.39 | unstable | jm_: unrar ie asking me to press c for continue |
| 06:40.49 | unstable | I just want to every 15 seconds press c into this unrar program. |
| 06:40.56 | unstable | jm_: http://pastebin.com/682310 |
| 06:41.07 | unstable | jm_: The file it wants...isn't downloaded yet..but it will be in 15 seconds. |
| 06:41.08 | peterS | lehel: cat /sys/class/net/eth0/device/vendor |
| 06:41.27 | dondelelcaro | unstable: set -y |
| 06:41.37 | peterS | lehel: this will be 0x10ec for realtek, 0x1106 for VIA |
| 06:41.45 | unstable | But I'm reading the data that has been extracted so far, and I don't want unrar to hang, because as I get to the data towards *part8.rar it won't be there, because it needs me to press c |
| 06:41.55 | unstable | dondelelcaro: I can't set -y, the data doesn't exist yet. |
| 06:42.01 | unstable | It's enroute via ftp |
| 06:42.07 | peterS | lehel: that way you can tell which of eth0 and eth1 corresponds to which chip |
| 06:42.19 | Snake-Eyes | I have pioneer dvd burner that has firmware that doesn't work with growfs, any chance cdrecord might not have the same firmware problem? |
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| 06:42.33 | unstable | If I press "c" and the data doesn't exist yet, unrar will know and just present me with the same thing(to press c) |
| 06:42.45 | jm_ | unstable: then you can use expect or Perl expect module or similar |
| 06:42.47 | unstable | So I just want to have a script/program press c, every 15 seconds. into another program(unrar) |
| 06:43.05 | unstable | jm_: eh, I've been playing with expect for 20 minutes I can't figure it out. |
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| 06:43.08 | dondelelcaro | unstable: so just perl -e 'while(1) {print qq(c\n)}'|unrar ...; |
| 06:43.16 | unstable | The website says to use "autoexpect" if you are a moron(me) |
| 06:43.19 | peterS | unstable: the great thing about free software is that you can just go in and fix the source to unrar to have it not do that |
| 06:43.22 | unstable | But debian doesn't package autoexpect |
| 06:43.28 | peterS | unstable: unless you're using a non-free version of unrar, of course (: |
| 06:43.39 | unstable | peterS: It's non-free but it's open source. |
| 06:43.46 | jm_ | unstable: Perl expect module has examples, good enough to just reuse it for such simple thing |
| 06:43.50 | Dwonis | unstable: just hire some cheap foreign monkeys |
| 06:44.00 | unstable | Dwonis: Which country? |
| 06:44.08 | Dwonis | unstable: I dunno. You'd have to research it |
| 06:44.08 | buck | india |
| 06:44.11 | unstable | Dwonis: Those americans are cheap |
| 06:44.14 | unstable | But the do shotty work. |
| 06:44.17 | Dwonis | unstable: also depends where "foreign" is to you |
| 06:44.27 | peterS | buck: does India have a lot of monkeys? |
| 06:44.42 | buck | a lot of code monkeys, sure |
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| 06:45.16 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: it works now, from a ssh session started on my laptop - not with putty though, I guess putty is crap - thanks for your help |
| 06:46.28 | peterS | putty isn't crap |
| 06:46.58 | dondelelcaro | sure it is... |
| 06:47.05 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro: nuh uhn! |
| 06:47.15 | dondelelcaro | give me a real terminal with real ssh... |
| 06:47.26 | peterS | they did confuse middle and right mouse button, which annoys me frequently |
| 06:47.52 | Dwonis | peterS: I think there might be an option to unfsck that |
| 06:47.59 | peterS | Dwonis: oh, possible |
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| 06:48.16 | dondelelcaro | I suppose if you had to use windows it's the best you can do... but on a real OS, it's kind of superfluous. |
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| 06:48.31 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: can I use 8BitInput with gnome-terminal ? |
| 06:48.53 | peterS | dondelelcaro: oh I didn't mean using putty on a real OS. I agree, there's a limited amount of point to *that* |
| 06:48.56 | lehel | jm_: i'm remote |
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| 06:49.00 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: I don't know how gnome-terminal does UTF-8... I've never bothered to figure that out. |
| 06:49.05 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro: interestingly, pterm seems to work flawlessly with utf-8 on my configuration |
| 06:49.06 | jm_ | lehel: how does that change anything? |
| 06:49.08 | dondelelcaro | (mainly cause I don't use gnome at all) |
| 06:49.10 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro: unlike on win32 |
| 06:49.16 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: ok, I'll try to figure it out |
| 06:49.20 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: thanks again for your help |
| 06:49.24 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: np |
| 06:49.43 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro: though that's after trying it for about 10 seconds. I usually use the one true xterm |
| 06:49.58 | dondelelcaro | Dwonis: yeah, I'm actually using uxterm here... but same difference, basically. |
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| 06:50.36 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro: oh... heh. I think what I'm _actually_ using is essentially uxterm, except I hacked my .Xresources so that xterm has UTF-8 support... |
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| 06:51.12 | dondelelcaro | Dwonis: right, you're just replacing the wrapper... |
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| 06:52.33 | Dwonis | hmm... uxterm seems to do things a lot smarter. |
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| 06:52.51 | Dwonis | it sets LC_* and everything |
| 06:53.01 | StijnT | hmm, funny, with xterm, alt + * doesn't work at all :/ |
| 06:53.36 | stew | Dwonis: and then there is lxterm |
| 06:53.54 | Dwonis | stew: heh! cool |
| 06:54.04 | jli | sorry for the newbish question, but: it seems like on my little home network with a cheapo dlink router, arp requests occur every few seconds. is this normal? |
| 06:54.57 | unstable | a while: do ... sleep 20 && echo "c" > /dev/??? definitely wo'nt work in bash? |
| 06:55.22 | dondelelcaro | unstable: uh... it'll work, but that's almost definetly not what you want. |
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| 06:56.23 | unstable | eh, I thought this would be simple when I set out to do try setting this up this morning. |
| 06:56.58 | peterS | what I'd like to know is what, besides warez, people actually use rar for |
| 06:57.05 | unstable | It would be easier if I just paid a monkey to ssh into my box, and press teh c key every 15 seconds |
| 06:57.10 | unstable | faster and easier |
| 06:57.18 | unstable | peterS: nothing, I'm doing warez |
| 06:57.26 | peterS | figures |
| 06:57.34 | unstable | Although rar is the best compression for text, I've done benchmarks |
| 06:57.43 | unstable | It's better then bzip2 or gzip or anything else |
| 06:57.50 | jli | benchmarks smenchmarks ;) |
| 06:57.53 | Dwonis | the best compression for text is to not ramble so much! |
| 06:57.54 | peterS | it compresses well, but the non-freeness of it all just makes it impractical for serious use |
| 06:58.25 | unstable | peterS: I download movies(foreign/indie/documentary)[hollywood movies suck] peterS and when I download them...I download the first archive first...and I can start watching my movie with mplayer... |
| 06:58.33 | unstable | unrar e -kb file.rar .; mplayer -fs -idx *avi; |
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| 06:58.45 | peterS | I mean, the fact that it's all wrapped up in non-freeness means it's non-trivial to turn it into a library and use it in arbitrary applications, like zlib and libbz2 |
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| 06:58.57 | unstable | So I can start downloading and watching whatever movie I want, in less then a minute.(instead of waiting for the full 1.4 gigs or whatever the size is to download) |
| 06:59.09 | unstable | As long as I can download faster then I can view(which I can) |
| 06:59.12 | jli | hurray for warez |
| 06:59.37 | unstable | So I want to do "unrar e -vp file.rar" and when it wants the next rar file...and wants me to hit c for continue, every 15 seconds it will input c |
| 07:00.08 | unstable | So this way, when I'm playing my movie with mplayer, I don't have to stop once it's viewed up to what has been extracted so far, and I hit c, or I extract again. |
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| 07:00.27 | Azar | this is nice: Single board Linux PC: http://linux.embebido.org/ecb_at91/ |
| 07:00.42 | Azar | could that CPU be an open source product? |
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| 07:00.49 | jli | aw, what a cute tux :) |
| 07:00.50 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: if I can use the EURO sign in gnome-terminal, does that mean 8bit input is enabled ? |
| 07:00.53 | unstable | peterS: maybe the unrar people would dual license with gpl, I don't see why not. it's oss anyway. |
| 07:01.07 | Readon | is there any stuff for installing moinmoin in debian? |
| 07:01.15 | peterS | unstable: last I heard, unrar isn't interesting because it can't handle most real-world rar files |
| 07:01.23 | Azar | Readon: what is moinmoin? |
| 07:01.45 | unstable | Readon: apt-get install moinmoin-common? |
| 07:01.51 | unstable | Azar: a wiki |
| 07:02.05 | Azar | thanks unstable, I thought was a game :) |
| 07:02.13 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: presumably. |
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| 07:02.15 | Readon | unstable: i have done that, but how to connect it with my apache? |
| 07:02.19 | unstable | peterS: unrar has sucessfully unrared any files I have given it, I've never had a problem. |
| 07:02.20 | cahoot | Azar: morningmorning? |
| 07:02.22 | sussudio | moinmoin-common-snaaaake? |
| 07:02.23 | unstable | And I use real-world rar files. |
| 07:02.26 | Readon | !tell Azar moinmoin |
| 07:02.29 | unstable | Readon: I have no idea. |
| 07:02.30 | unstable | !docs |
| 07:02.31 | dpkg | hmm... docs is before asking in here, *please* read the available documentation in /usr/share/doc/packagename, man packagename, and http://linuxdoc.org/, or some packages have separat doc packages (e.g. bash-doc), or try the 'info' system |
| 07:02.36 | Azar | :) |
| 07:02.44 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: hmmz, then I am stuck, € works but alt-2 alt-6 alt-7 alt-9 and alt-0 don't |
| 07:02.59 | unstable | Readon: firefox http://localhost/moinmoin ? |
| 07:03.06 | unstable | or localhost/moinmoin/install.php |
| 07:03.12 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: but I have the same problem with urxvt now |
| 07:03.20 | StijnT | so I'm prolly forgetting something |
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| 07:05.20 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: what is alt-2 doing? |
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| 07:06.48 | Readon | not found |
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| 07:07.02 | cast | hey guys, is there any pkg/cmd to search the contents of all avaialbe sarge packages like packages.debian.org can? |
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| 07:07.14 | unstable | !apt-cache |
| 07:07.14 | dpkg | i heard apt-cache is a tool with several commands that query the package cache in various ways. To see versions of a package or which repository is came from, use apt-cache policy foo, apt-cache show foo or apt-cache showpkg foo (searches for reverse dependencies). apt-cache search foo helps finding which packages provide or are related to foo by seearching all package descriptions. man apt-cache |
| 07:07.36 | unstable | cast: So if I wanted to search for a package about drugs, I would type "apt-cache search drugs" |
| 07:07.38 | peterS | unstable: I rather doubt the unrar author could be convinced to release under the GPL. his current terms are non-free in several ways, and it looks to me as though these restrictions are quite intentional |
| 07:07.46 | dondelelcaro | cast: apt-file and/or apt-cache |
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| 07:07.58 | unstable | peterS: I think that guy died and someone else is in charge now. |
| 07:08.04 | cast | by contents i merely mean the list of files in the .deb |
| 07:08.08 | Readon | unstable: page is not found |
| 07:08.14 | unstable | peterS: http://www.rarlabs.com/ron.htm |
| 07:08.17 | dondelelcaro | unstable: that doesn't really matter, unfortunatly. |
| 07:08.22 | unstable | Readon: read the docs |
| 07:08.24 | peterS | unstable: and you think the guy's heirs might be more interested in relicensing? often it's hard to reach heirs |
| 07:08.25 | jm_ | cast: apt-file can list it |
| 07:08.26 | dondelelcaro | unstable: since he or his estate controls the copyright. |
| 07:08.27 | unstable | !tell Readon about docs |
| 07:08.38 | unstable | Readon: /usr/share/doc/moinmoin-common |
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| 07:09.00 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: it simply does nothing, nothing at all |
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| 07:09.12 | unstable | dondelelcaro: right, but maybe they are more willing to help floss community then he was. |
| 07:09.13 | dondelelcaro | StijnT: uh... and what does xev say? |
| 07:09.24 | dondelelcaro | unstable: unfortunatly, that's generally not likely. |
| 07:09.28 | peterS | unstable: if there's any convenient way to find out who they are. |
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| 07:09.58 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 07:09.58 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 07:11.06 | tarzeau | Azar: hehe :) |
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| 07:11.49 | StijnT | dondelelcaro: I hope this is what you meant -> http://stijn.linux-ipv6.be/xev |
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| 07:12.02 | StijnT | oh |
| 07:12.06 | unstable | peterS: WinRAR Software is written and developed by Alexander Roshal in Russia. |
| 07:12.09 | StijnT | sorry, dondelelcaro, http://stijn.linux-ipv6.be/xev_alt2 |
| 07:12.37 | cast | ahh excellent. apt-file does what i want it appears :) |
| 07:12.40 | Dwonis | peterS: heh.. the popcon factoid mentions -plow |
| 07:12.41 | Readon | unstable: roger i have looked for doc of python2.4-moinmoin but moinmoin-common |
| 07:12.43 | Kylixen | What debian package is the C documentation in? I can't seem to find any man pages for things like fopen, scanf, etc... |
| 07:12.49 | Dwonis | I wonder if -plow was *always* the default |
| 07:12.49 | cast | thanks dondelelcaro||jm_ |
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| 07:13.04 | peterS | Dwonis: so does the drxx factoid, IIRC, but that doesn't make it actually necessary (: |
| 07:13.20 | unstable | Kylixen: libc6-dev maybe?(not sure) |
| 07:13.28 | cheal | Kylixen: apt-cache search manpages; (depends on the language you want_ |
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| 07:14.08 | karsten | Kylixen: look for a *-doc package, likely something like gcc-doc... |
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| 07:14.13 | peterS | I think -plow was always the default, yeah, though I'm not positive |
| 07:14.43 | Kylixen | thanks |
| 07:14.43 | karsten | Kylixen: apt-cache search gcc | grep gcc.*-doc |
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| 07:14.59 | karsten | Kylixen: Won't be a C/C++ tutorial, but it'll tell you about the compiler and its options. |
| 07:15.05 | Kylixen | karsten: The gcc in grep is superfluous, but thanks ;) |
| 07:15.28 | karsten | Kylixen: No it's not. apt-cache searches package descriptions. |
| 07:15.40 | karsten | Kylixen: ... which may include text not included on the output itself. |
| 07:15.41 | efaistos | do you have a clue why a 2.6.15 kernel cant detect a VG since a 2.6.8 can ? |
| 07:15.47 | lehelcs | peterS: how would be the best partitioning [root/ swap /usr /var] on a 20, 40 and a 60G disks a deb system? |
| 07:16.05 | jm_ | you can also say apt-cache pkgnames gcc |
| 07:16.07 | Kylixen | karsten: good point |
| 07:16.16 | karsten | Kylixen: ;-) |
| 07:16.20 | Dwonis | Kylixen, karsten: "apt-cache search ^gcc doc" |
| 07:16.43 | peterS | lehelcs: I create /boot as small as you possibly can (there is a minimum partition size), I combine /var and /home into one big data partition, and I combine /usr and the root partition into one probably 3 or 4 GB. |
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| 07:16.50 | karsten | Dwonis: That too... |
| 07:16.54 | unstable | lehelcs: If you are asking, you should probably just put one(two) partition(s) on the 20 gig, and use the others for secondary storage. |
| 07:17.06 | Azar | efaistos: what is a VG ? |
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| 07:17.20 | unstable | lehelcs: So put 1.5x RAM on the 20 gig, as swap, and the rest of the 20 as /, and others for secondary storage. |
| 07:17.21 | karsten | Kylixen: You can search for specific files in _any_ package with either auto-apt or apt-file. |
| 07:17.33 | efaistos | Azar: volume group ... |
| 07:17.36 | karsten | Kylixen: auto-apt is markedly faster on searches, not sure why. |
| 07:17.39 | lehelcs | hm.. thinking |
| 07:17.44 | Azar | efaistos: ah... thanks |
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| 07:18.33 | unstable | lehelcs: When you are in the debian install, hit enter on the 20 gig hdd(assuming it's all free space) then hit enter for "one partition (for beginners) then write changes and you're set...finish the install. |
| 07:18.38 | unstable | !tell lehelcs about d-i |
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| 07:24.36 | voltagex | I'm getting invalid module format errors, I've recompiled everything - kernel and the module with gcc-3.4 |
| 07:24.38 | fyn | I know this is entirely the wrong place, but anyone know how to write a sum of probabilities? I implemented it iteratively, but am documenting it and want to have the notation. |
| 07:24.44 | voltagex | and rebooted |
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| 07:27.08 | cahoot | voltagex: what does depmod -V return? |
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| 07:28.22 | bliss1_ | hello |
| 07:28.33 | bliss1_ | liable: hows X doing |
| 07:28.43 | lehel | unstable, peterS: any mount option? nosuid..? |
| 07:28.45 | voltagex | cahoot: a whole lot of modules for the 2.4 kernel I have for emergencies (I use 2.6.11.16 at the moment) |
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| 07:28.57 | cahoot | voltagex: what does depmod -V return? |
| 07:29.07 | voltagex | aaah oop! |
| 07:29.08 | voltagex | s |
| 07:29.16 | peterS | lehel: why are you asking me? I don't use nosuid but some people might |
| 07:29.30 | voltagex | cahoot: 2.4.26 |
| 07:29.35 | lehel | ok |
| 07:29.50 | cahoot | really? |
| 07:29.53 | peterS | I do use nodiratime and errors=remount-ro (the latter is specific to ext2 / ext3, I think) |
| 07:30.07 | voltagex | cahoot: yes, what do I do now? |
| 07:30.18 | peterS | I don't care about directory atimes, though I do care a little about file atimes |
| 07:30.48 | lehel | i see |
| 07:31.07 | bliss1_ | what does this sentence mean ehats a tree? To get the source including the patches I looked for the ‘kernel-tree-2.6.8′ meta package and installed it. |
| 07:31.31 | cahoot | voltagex: did you move from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel and not installed module-init-tools maybe? |
| 07:31.42 | voltagex | cahoot: shit, sorry, that was from my other machine I was sshed into |
| 07:31.57 | karsten | fyn: You want to check out a basic stats book. |
| 07:32.13 | voltagex | cahoot: module-init-tools 3.2-pre1 |
| 07:32.15 | karsten | fyn: ... and why wouldn't it just be sum(n) over some n? |
| 07:32.29 | cahoot | voltagex: ok never mind e then |
| 07:32.34 | cahoot | voltagex: ok never mind me then |
| 07:32.45 | voltagex | cahoot: no idea then? |
| 07:32.50 | bliss1_ | cahoot: any ideas |
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| 07:33.50 | voltagex | What would cause "invalid module format" when everything's been compiled using the same gcc version? :S help! |
| 07:34.23 | bliss1_ | cahoot: what does this sentence mean " To get the source including the patches I looked for the ‘kernel-tree-2.6.8′ meta package and installed it." |
| 07:35.01 | lehel | peterS, how do i put on the same partition for ex. /var and /home too? |
| 07:35.02 | voltagex | bliss1_: it means, download kernel-tree-2.6.8 |
| 07:35.17 | peterS | lehel: that's kind of beyond the scope of "Elementary Partitioning". I use a bind mount. |
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| 07:35.36 | peterS | /data/home /home none bind 0 0 |
| 07:35.43 | teenex | hi every1 |
| 07:35.54 | bliss1_ | voltagex: thanks i think I tried that i will check my apt sources file |
| 07:36.29 | voltagex | :( no tv card support for me |
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| 07:39.07 | Erpo | I'm trying to compile a modular kernel, so I started with make allmodconfig, and then changed some things (like removing oss and isdn support, and deactivating smp). Then I followed up with a make, a make install, and a make modules_install. Then I ran mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.2 2.6.16.2 (that's the kernel version I just compiled), and then I updated /boot/grub/menu.lst to reflect the changed. When I try to boot with the new kerne |
| 07:39.11 | Erpo | l, I get a kernel panic. What gives? |
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| 07:39.50 | Erpo | Something about unknown-device(0,0). |
| 07:39.51 | Gnea | fucking.... |
| 07:39.53 | Gnea | apt-file search usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/shape.h |
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| 07:39.56 | Gnea | that doesn't work. why? |
| 07:40.19 | lehel | peterS: oh;) i think i'll use then separate partitions |
| 07:40.22 | peterS | Gnea: there is no /usr/X11R6/include in unstable |
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| 07:41.02 | bliss1_ | Gnea: behave |
| 07:41.13 | Gnea | bliss1_: bite me. |
| 07:41.24 | azeteg | I just upgraded a machines samba installation from 3.0.14a to 3.0.22. When I try to connect to a share I get Unknown parameter encountered: "lpq cache" |
| 07:41.27 | azeteg | Ignoring unknown parameter "lpq cache" |
| 07:41.30 | azeteg | Error connecting to 127.0.0.1 (Connection refused) |
| 07:41.32 | Gnea | peterS: interesting.. where did it get moved to? |
| 07:41.34 | azeteg | (sorry for the overpaste) |
| 07:41.41 | peterS | !topicsmite Gnea |
| 07:41.41 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Gnea. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 07:41.55 | Gnea | .... i already read it |
| 07:42.23 | peterS | you read the part about xorg 7.0 being in unstable, BEWARE UNSTABLE? |
| 07:42.29 | peterS | anyway, it should be in /usr/include |
| 07:42.30 | azeteg | anyone know what could be the problem? |
| 07:43.10 | unstable | wow, when you visit www.google.com in internet explorer, you get a 3rd party advertisement from google to download firefox. So anyone who uses internet explorer and google will be advertised to switch to firefox. |
| 07:43.14 | Gnea | peterS: i read the details behind it, i know it quite well. HAVE YOU? |
| 07:43.23 | Dwonis | azeteg: just a total guess, but have you installed CUPS? |
| 07:43.33 | Gnea | !beat peterS |
| 07:43.34 | _rene_ | you obviously didn't |
| 07:43.38 | peterS | Gnea: you missed the details about /usr/X11R6 entirely going away, I guess |
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| 07:43.47 | _rene_ | if you had, you would know that /usr/X11R6 is gone |
| 07:43.57 | peterS | Gnea: since xorg 7.0 is no longer X11R6 but X11R7 |
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| 07:44.03 | azeteg | I installed new samba with apt |
| 07:44.20 | Gnea | ah ok |
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| 07:44.50 | unstable | !start an x server war |
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| 07:45.02 | unstable | !start an xserver war |
| 07:45.02 | dpkg | hmm... start an xserver war is XFree86 is waayyy better then xorg |
| 07:45.08 | azeteg | and I don't run any printers with samba |
| 07:45.47 | peterS | there are two things that make you look particularly stupid on #debian. one is to use the bot to 'start a {some drivel} war'. the other is to do this but get the details wrong, so dpkg does nothing |
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| 07:46.04 | unstable | peterS: lol :( |
| 07:46.12 | voltagex | does anybody know how to solve my module problem? |
| 07:46.15 | unstable | !mhallsmite unstable |
| 07:46.20 | menko | hi people, I have a list of website urls which I want to make into html links, anyone know of a place I can get it done automatically? |
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| 07:46.29 | Dwonis | unstable: sadly, it's gone |
| 07:46.32 | unstable | I hit spacebar by accident peterS. :( |
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| 07:46.35 | Gnea | _rene_: actually, it mentions /usr/X11R6/bin being gone, along with the include/, lib/ and man/ dirs, not /usr/X11R6/ itself - yes, it should have been obvious, but equally obvious to specifically cover that portion. |
| 07:46.37 | peterS | yeah, that's one for three |
| 07:46.45 | unstable | lol |
| 07:46.53 | Dwonis | peterS: but, I use "start a .* war" all the time.... OH.... crap |
| 07:46.54 | azeteg | menko: pick your own language to do the task |
| 07:47.05 | unstable | !sleep |
| 07:47.05 | dpkg | i guess sleep is For wimpy organic beings. Or, sleep is probably a poor substitute for coffee or for mortals or for the weak or the glory of the cowards and the un-caffeinateds. :-) or the activity of choice for the intelligent person or time which could be spent hacking the planet.. or .. whatever .. ZZzzzz ... |
| 07:47.10 | sm|gone | morning |
| 07:47.14 | peterS | Gnea: uh, that's a pretty unimportant detail. if /usr/X11R6/include went away, that should have answered your question already |
| 07:47.16 | voltagex | !modulesmite philips tv tuner |
| 07:47.24 | _rene_ | Gnea: uh? when everything under /usr/X11R6 is gone it's gone. |
| 07:47.46 | Gnea | peterS: but it's very important, and the wiki will be editted to reflect that. |
| 07:47.58 | unstable | menko: apt-get install nvu |
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| 07:48.05 | Gnea | _rene_: nope, you can rm -rf everything under it but the /usr/X11R6/ inode may still remain. |
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| 07:48.24 | Gnea | _rene_: it even shows up in ls |
| 07:48.27 | peterS | Gnea: now you're just being stupid. are you trying to win the argument or what? |
| 07:48.27 | sm|gone | i have a server which i used the i386 install on, and then installed the 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp kernel image (it's dual amd64 opterons) - everything works fine. i also have a similar server where i used the amd64 install, but loads of packages aren't installable (ie libmysqlclient15) |
| 07:48.29 | _rene_ | wow. just that it isn't usable for anything but only a empty dir containing nothing in it |
| 07:48.32 | sm|gone | i'm confused |
| 07:48.42 | Gnea | peterS: not at all, just pointing out some obvious facts |
| 07:48.51 | _rene_ | even if it'd stay as a inode it doesn't make any sense for this argument |
| 07:49.01 | peterS | Gnea: one man's obvious facts is another man's "wow that dude is being obtuse, I wonder what he ate for breakfast" |
| 07:49.03 | menko | unstable: does it have a place that has multiple copy and pastes in one window? Coz I'd rather just write the code myself than go through multiple dialog boxes |
| 07:49.11 | _rene_ | since everything moved zo /usr/bin, /usr/include etc so even if it still would be there it would be empty |
| 07:49.12 | sm|gone | does installing an amd64 kernel after an i386 install make the whole arch 64 bit? |
| 07:49.15 | Gnea | peterS: think what you want |
| 07:49.20 | jm_ | sm|gone: no |
| 07:49.28 | peterS | _rene_: I don't think there's much point in arguing with this kind of person |
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| 07:49.33 | sm|gone | i see |
| 07:49.56 | sm|gone | can i use a kernel compiled in amd64 in the i386 install? |
| 07:50.01 | dondelelcaro | sm|gone: no |
| 07:50.06 | sm|gone | hehe |
| 07:50.08 | Gnea | _rene_, peterS: but thank you for pointing that out |
| 07:50.09 | peterS | Gnea: I do think what I want. and I think you're trying to save face somehow after it being pointed out that you already knew /usr/X11R6/include was going away, but you still searched for something inside /usr/X11R6/include |
| 07:50.26 | Dwonis | sm|gone: you can, but you won't like what happens (e.g. can't execute /sbin/init) |
| 07:50.37 | nStensen | Hi all, Im having some problems with postfix, it's a problem with fstat. Quoting the user at the postfix mailing list: You seem to have a broken fstat(2) implementation. How can I fix this ?? |
| 07:50.43 | dondelelcaro | yeesh. can the X11R6 discussion already |
| 07:50.46 | litage | if a pdf allows me to enter data into various form fields in adobe's acrobat reader, why can i not do that in kpdf? |
| 07:50.54 | Gnea | peterS: there's nothing to save, I'll fix the document myself |
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| 07:51.07 | jm_ | litage: because kdpf doesn't have the same functionality? |
| 07:51.10 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: uh... fstat in Debian is most likely not broken in that way. |
| 07:51.42 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: it'd help if you give us the full and complete problem; ideally with the version of postfix in Debian that you're using. |
| 07:51.45 | sm|gone | basically i need to use the installers here - http://www.tienhuis.nl/areca/ because i have an areca raid card. i want to use i386 because amd64 hasn't got the packages i need yet. i also want to use a proper amd64 kernel with it but the ones on that site seem to be compiled for amd64 so i'm a bit stuck |
| 07:51.45 | kenneth | what is the difference between "hibernation" and "standby" power modes? |
| 07:51.51 | litage | jm_: hrm. i thought kpdf would be able to do that... |
| 07:52.23 | dondelelcaro | kenneth: depends on the hardware, but generally hibernate means that the machine shuts down totally and loads ram from disk; standby is a suspend-to-ram. |
| 07:53.10 | kenneth | so if i have a running process, and i choose standby, the process will continue from where it stop? |
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| 07:53.24 | dondelelcaro | kenneth: yes. |
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| 07:53.34 | xomhau | hi all |
| 07:53.35 | kenneth | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 07:53.37 | dondelelcaro | assuming it doesn't have any network connections, of course. |
| 07:53.55 | dondelelcaro | (those will continue working if the delay between stoping and starting is short enough, though.) |
| 07:54.21 | xomhau | anyone , how to disable option multi-language ( nls ) when install centericq? |
| 07:54.21 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: Debian Sarge, and the postfix packages that comes with it. I used the tutorial at workaround.org. Mail.Log: http://login1.webbasert.com/~nikolai/mail.log . The eMail I got from the mailing list: http://login1.webbasert.com/~nikolai/email.txt |
| 07:54.30 | peterS | (or if the remote end doesn't need to send any data in the meantime, and nobody's doing any keepalives) |
| 07:55.12 | dondelelcaro | peterS: yerp... "short enough" is most definetly not a constant... |
| 07:55.47 | azeteg | ok - lpq cache smb.conf setting seems depracated |
| 07:56.01 | azeteg | but I still cannot access the samba share |
| 07:56.10 | azeteg | from ANY machine |
| 07:56.10 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: what's the underlying filesystem here? Which kernel version? |
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| 07:56.20 | peterS | azeteg: check /var/log/samba/log.smb to see if it crashed and why |
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| 07:56.24 | azeteg | no |
| 07:56.27 | azeteg | doesn't crash |
| 07:57.25 | azeteg | doesn't show anything either when I try to connect |
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| 07:57.46 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: Kernel: 2.4.20-021stab028.727.777 (it's a Spry.com VPS), not sure about the filesystem |
| 07:58.21 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: ok... and why is /usr/lib/postfix/* not owned by root? |
| 07:58.31 | nStensen | It is ;) |
| 07:58.32 | azeteg | smbclient //127.0.0.1/myshare ----------- this just gives Error connecting to 127.0.0.1 (Connection refused) Connection to 127.0.0.1 failed |
| 07:58.43 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: the error I get now is at the bottom |
| 07:58.46 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: uh... why wasn't it owned that way originally? what version of postfix is this? |
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| 07:59.05 | peterS | azeteg: connection refused means either the server crashed, or it's not started in the first place, or you've got 'bind interfaces only = yes', which is not the default |
| 07:59.30 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: A friend of mine was supposed to fix it, but he just changed the permissions to check if cleanup would work |
| 07:59.35 | plopplop | hey, i have a dependance problem which i do not really understand : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2429 |
| 07:59.40 | azeteg | peterS: I don't have that option set |
| 07:59.46 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: reinstall the postfix package then to make sure the permissions are set properly. |
| 07:59.46 | azeteg | smbd most certainly is running |
| 07:59.59 | azeteg | and it doesn't show anything in logs |
| 08:00.02 | peterS | azeteg: then I have no idea why it wouldn't be listening on localhost port 139 TCP |
| 08:00.18 | peterS | azeteg: that's one you'll have to debug yourself, or ask the nice people in #samba |
| 08:00.22 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: I've done that |
| 08:00.24 | azeteg | peterS: have there been any conf changes? |
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| 08:00.36 | peterS | you tell me if there have been any conf changes, it's your machine |
| 08:00.40 | Dwonis | plopplop: for some reason, it doesn't want to install xlibs |
| 08:00.43 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: 2 times |
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| 08:01.00 | peterS | samba shouldn't overwrite your existing smb.conf |
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| 08:01.42 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: just for my information, what's the output of dpkg -l postfix; and dpkg -l libc6? |
| 08:01.47 | Dwonis | plopplop: what release are you running? |
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| 08:03.09 | plopplop | just done a dist-upgrade on sid, cant make nvidia driver work, nv seems to run. but ctwm dependance broke is strange |
| 08:03.25 | Dwonis | plopplop: what command did you run? |
| 08:03.29 | azeteg | ok - for some reason old smbd process had hung, blocking new ones |
| 08:03.30 | xomhau | anyone , how to disable option multi-language ( nls ) when install centericq? |
| 08:03.30 | tarzeau | plopplop: nvidia drvier work perfect here |
| 08:03.35 | azeteg | had to kill it manually |
| 08:03.38 | azeteg | now works fine |
| 08:03.39 | tarzeau | plopplop: you'll need to put the files to the right place, see /usr/lib/xorg/ |
| 08:03.56 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: http://login1.webbasert.com/~nikolai/dpkg_-l_postfix.txt && http://login1.webbasert.com/~nikolai/dpkg_-l_libc6.txt |
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| 08:04.22 | plopplop | tarzeau, will try, thks |
| 08:04.27 | dondelelcaro | !info postfix stable |
| 08:04.33 | dpkg | postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is extra. Version: 2.1.5-9 (sarge), Packaged size: 783 kB, Installed size: 1928 kB |
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| 08:05.04 | plopplop | Dwonis, apt-get -f dist-upgrade |
| 08:05.21 | Dwonis | oh.... yeah, that can happen, then |
| 08:05.40 | plopplop | is there a way to report the problem ? |
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| 08:05.49 | tarzeau | plopplop: there's BTS |
| 08:05.53 | tarzeau | plopplop: but what problem? |
| 08:06.06 | plopplop | i can survive on kde some days but more is not sure lol |
| 08:06.07 | tarzeau | plopplop: it's not a debian problem if you need the non-free nvidia drivers. there's #nvidia too |
| 08:06.14 | Dwonis | plopplop: try: "aptitude dist-upgrade" |
| 08:06.19 | tarzeau | plopplop: you'll not die without software/computer/internet |
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| 08:06.47 | Dwonis | tarzeau: that's a different problem. he's talking about the inability to install ctwm |
| 08:06.54 | Dwonis | tarzeau: or, rather, to dist-upgrade |
| 08:07.13 | plopplop | tarzeau, it will bore me to work 9h/day on a comp with a vm i dont like |
| 08:07.16 | tarzeau | Dwonis: ahhh got it |
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| 08:07.42 | plopplop | dist-upgrade is done, it unstalled ctwm and now i cant install it anymore |
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| 08:07.58 | jm_ | plopplop: dist upgrade to what? |
| 08:08.02 | Dwonis | jm_: sid |
| 08:08.11 | Dwonis | jm_: but apt-get -t unstable -d install ctwm works for me |
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| 08:08.28 | jm_ | Dwonis: well then apt-get/aptitude will also tell him why it can't be installed |
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| 08:08.55 | Dwonis | jm_: he posted http://channels.debian.net/paste/2429 but it looks weird |
| 08:09.12 | plopplop | brb in 10 min ... |
| 08:09.21 | jm_ | Dwonis: right, it looks like package needs updating |
| 08:09.31 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: any ideas? I've been struggling with this for several days now |
| 08:09.33 | nightcon | my /var/ partition was borked, can i recreate it without needing to reinstall debian? |
| 08:09.34 | RvGaTe | Good morning fellow unix users :") |
| 08:09.38 | Dwonis | does some package conflict: with xlibs now? |
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| 08:10.14 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: hrm... what's the underlying filesystem there? (run mount) |
| 08:10.30 | Dwonis | nightcon: possibly, but reinstalling (while preserving stuff like /etc, /boot/grub/menu.lst, /home, ...) is probably easier and more reliable |
| 08:10.44 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: also, you're running a really old kernel (2.4.20) |
| 08:10.45 | sm|gone | if anyone has some free time, could they take a look at my query here - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=18549#18549 and post there if they've got any idea what i'm talking about :) |
| 08:11.08 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: I know about the kernel, but since it's a VPS I cant really do anything about it :( |
| 08:11.08 | Dwonis | plopplop: try "apt-get install xlibs" |
| 08:11.10 | RvGaTe | Im looking for a package to run my own bnc for irc, i found MUH, but it lags of documentation to set it up right... are there any other packages that i could use? |
| 08:11.10 | jm_ | either way, installing problematic dependencies might reveal more (xlibs in this case) |
| 08:11.22 | nightcon | Dwonis: yes |
| 08:11.26 | Gnea | peterS, _rene_: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 08:11.27 | nightcon | i guess |
| 08:11.28 | nightcon | sigh. |
| 08:11.38 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: http://login1.webbasert.com/~nikolai/mount.txt |
| 08:11.48 | Dwonis | nightcon: I know from experience |
| 08:11.50 | nightcon | shouldn't have tried to resize /var/ |
| 08:11.51 | Dwonis | !comfort nightcon |
| 08:11.51 | dpkg | There, there, nightcon. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 08:11.53 | nightcon | should have made backups |
| 08:12.00 | dondelelcaro | ugh. figures that it's reiserfs. |
| 08:12.09 | dondelelcaro | anyway, it's a pipe though, so that shouldn't be a problem. |
| 08:12.11 | Dwonis | nightcon: wait, what did you do? |
| 08:12.58 | nightcon | Dwonis: i unmount /var/, resized it with lvresize, then proceeded to resize it with resize2fs but that just borked. |
| 08:13.09 | sepski | RvGaTe, dircproxy is in debian i belive |
| 08:13.13 | Dwonis | nightcon: to make it bigger or smaller? |
| 08:13.19 | nightcon | so i tried to run e2fsck but it would try to check blocks not on the partition |
| 08:13.32 | RvGaTe | sepski: any experience with it, like: was it easy to setup ? |
| 08:13.38 | nightcon | so i tried to write a new superblock only with mkfs.ext3 and that just screwed up the whole partition |
| 08:13.41 | nightcon | Dwonis: smaller |
| 08:13.43 | sepski | RvGaTe, naw never tried it |
| 08:13.59 | nightcon | so then i just said screw it and reformatted it :P |
| 08:14.01 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: you are the expert ;) But is there anyway to kind-a "re-install" the libc package without turning the whole server upside down? To see if it fixes it? |
| 08:14.03 | Dwonis | nightcon: ah, you should have used resize2fs first, I suspect. You might have been able to re-enlarge it with lvresize in order to recover |
| 08:14.03 | RvGaTe | sepski: ok, thx, ill look into it |
| 08:14.03 | sepski | RvGaTe, but if it's like other debian software it's just install and read in /usr/share/doc/dircproxy |
| 08:14.05 | nightcon | so too late to do anything :) |
| 08:14.10 | nightcon | Dwonis: doh. |
| 08:14.10 | Dwonis | nightcon: but yeah :) |
| 08:14.16 | jm_ | RvGaTe: /msg dpkg search |
| 08:14.18 | nightcon | should have thought of that |
| 08:14.22 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: just apt-get --reinstall install libc6; |
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| 08:15.06 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: man, that wiki rocks |
| 08:15.10 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: it's definetly wierd that the libc6 package has been selected to be purged though... |
| 08:16.03 | Dwonis | it's not like libc6 is _that_ important or anything... it only contains ld-linux.so.2 |
| 08:16.09 | Readon | moinmoin problems, the moin.cgi was not run as script when i followed the README.Debian |
| 08:16.10 | Dwonis | who needs a dynamic linker anyway? |
| 08:16.17 | superlinux | hi all |
| 08:16.24 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: That was me ;) I was so tired and didnt really understand what I did ;) |
| 08:16.31 | Gnea | Dwonis: your mom. ;) |
| 08:16.36 | superlinux | any body who uses squidguard here? |
| 08:16.38 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: and just for my sanity, you're running the postfix that the Debian package installed, right? |
| 08:16.47 | nStensen | yes |
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| 08:17.01 | nStensen | just like the workaround.org tutorial told me to ;) |
| 08:17.09 | Dwonis | Gnea: egad... never say that here again... ever |
| 08:17.11 | seek | I'm downloading Debian DVDs with bittorrent's console app... If I quit the app will it start where it left off? |
| 08:17.27 | Readon | moinmoin problems, the moin.cgi was not run as script when i followed the README.Debian. the directory is listed without running moin.cgi |
| 08:17.28 | superlinux | squidguard is not replying when I setup squid in transparent mode |
| 08:17.32 | nStensen | still wont work :/ |
| 08:17.37 | superlinux | what should I do? |
| 08:17.51 | Gnea | Dwonis: LOL |
| 08:18.06 | Gnea | superlinux: never used it, but it looks interesting... |
| 08:18.19 | tim_flatus | General question: I have a box that I need to remote admin that has a dynamic IP address. The address does not appear to be sniffable by outside means (probably a Good Thing). Does anyone have any suggestions or a standard method of notifying myself of the IP address without having to physically go into the office? |
| 08:18.43 | Dwonis | !tell tim_flatus about dyndns |
| 08:19.04 | Gnea | tim_flatus: have it ping a system you control that logs ping requests |
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| 08:19.13 | superlinux | Gnea, I am using it block you know sites |
| 08:19.25 | Gnea | superlinux: porn sites? |
| 08:19.26 | superlinux | the inappropriate ones |
| 08:19.29 | superlinux | yea |
| 08:19.34 | Gnea | those are the best |
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| 08:19.48 | Dwonis | since when is "porn" a dirty word on the Internet? |
| 08:19.59 | Gnea | Dwonis: it's not |
| 08:20.03 | nightcon | Dwonis: well at least i've learnt how to do it corectly next time. thanks :) |
| 08:20.11 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: ok... the only thing I can think of is that something (kernel?) is too old. |
| 08:20.16 | superlinux | well here in our muslim preservative community it's |
| 08:20.16 | tim_flatus | Dwonis, Gnea, thanks. That sounds nice and straightforward (both) |
| 08:20.23 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: try to get your hosting company to install a 2.4.27 kernel like they should have. |
| 08:20.25 | Gnea | Dwonis: some people think TV = internet, though |
| 08:20.26 | Dwonis | nightcon: heh. have fun :) |
| 08:20.39 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: or a current 2.4 if they want. |
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| 08:20.41 | Dwonis | Gnea: I don't think "porn" is a dirty word even on TV |
| 08:20.54 | dondelelcaro | nStensen: or if you can, install it. [2.4.27 is what shipped with sarge.] |
| 08:21.00 | superlinux | what ever .. we have kids to protect here |
| 08:21.21 | sharpy | tim_flatus, the only think i could think of would be getting a dynamic IP address from noip.org or dyndns and then ssh to your office box. |
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| 08:21.27 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: I will ask them to do it ... |
| 08:21.28 | jm_ | bartlebee: here's some interesting topic for you to learn ;) |
| 08:21.29 | Gnea | Dwonis: right, but in most muslim countries, people don't understand the difference between reality and lies and they take everything 100% seriously, so let's try to help out |
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| 08:21.42 | Mazingaro | please, I've got a problem with openoffice on sid, dist-upgrade removes openoffice.org-base :( |
| 08:21.44 | Dwonis | superlinux: I can see you blocking porn, that doesn't mean you need to disguise the _word_ "porn". "inappropriate" could mean a lot of things to a lot of people |
| 08:21.56 | Gnea | Dwonis: please, drop it. |
| 08:22.06 | Gnea | superlinux: i'm setting squidguard up right now |
| 08:22.10 | superlinux | yea true drop it |
| 08:22.14 | Dwonis | fine |
| 08:22.15 | superlinux | good |
| 08:22.34 | plopplop | <Dwonis> plopplop: try "apt-get install xlibs" <- it told me its already installed, i tryed to remove and install again, nothing changed |
| 08:22.43 | Dwonis | plopplop: "apt-get -f install" |
| 08:22.56 | superlinux | it seems that squid is not redirecting the transparent queries to squidguard |
| 08:22.56 | sharpy | Gnea, what is squidguard? |
| 08:23.15 | Gnea | !info squidguard |
| 08:23.21 | superlinux | sharpy, it's a tool to create squid ACL's |
| 08:23.21 | dpkg | squidguard: (filter, redirector and access controller plug for Squid), section web, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-8 (sid), Packaged size: 132 kB, Installed size: 440 kB |
| 08:23.57 | superlinux | sharpy, best usage in blocking unwanted sites |
| 08:24.01 | plopplop | already tried ... nothing changed |
| 08:24.28 | tim_flatus | superlinux, thanks for squidguard suggestion. I shall look into this too. I need to do the same. |
| 08:24.35 | Gnea | whoa |
| 08:24.35 | Dwonis | Mazingaro, plopplop: I usually try use aptitude interactively to resolve complex dependency problems |
| 08:24.36 | sharpy | superlinux, would this be best if I want to block certain sites when my kids "accidentally encountered"? |
| 08:24.40 | Gnea | this thing is pretty cool |
| 08:24.47 | Gnea | wish i knew about it at my last job lol |
| 08:24.56 | Dwonis | Gnea: "this thing"? |
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| 08:25.06 | Gnea | squidguard, of course |
| 08:25.12 | Dwonis | ah... |
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| 08:25.16 | Mazingaro | Dwonis: apt-get dist-upgrade removes openoffice and I couldn't reinstall it due to kaffe |
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| 08:25.46 | superlinux | yes sharpy |
| 08:25.58 | Gnea | Dwonis: believe it or not, there are certain situations where this can come in extremely handy for increasing productivity |
| 08:25.58 | sharpy | superlinux, apt getting it .. :-) |
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| 08:26.02 | Dwonis | Mazingaro: like I said, poke around with aptitude. |
| 08:26.02 | superlinux | a big database of about 3MB or so |
| 08:26.16 | Mazingaro | Dwonis: ok |
| 08:26.21 | Dwonis | Gnea: heh. first entry: http://slashdot.org/. Second entry: http://*.slashdot.org/ |
| 08:27.02 | tim_flatus | Mazingaro, Dependency juggling is an art. It can help to put certain packages on hold. Apt-get will then usually make the right choices. |
| 08:27.09 | Gnea | Dwonis: ROFL |
| 08:27.20 | Dwonis | Gnea: You know it's true |
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| 08:27.26 | Mazingaro | tim_flatus: ? |
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| 08:28.14 | tim_flatus | Mazingaro, ! |
| 08:28.15 | Gnea | Dwonis: */30 * * * * /etc/init.d/squid stop && sleep 600 && /etc/init.d/squid start <--- just as functional, if not more annoying |
| 08:28.37 | Dwonis | Gnea: heh... but you can use iptables for that :) |
| 08:28.55 | Gnea | Dwonis: true |
| 08:28.55 | zu22 | When you package something is it release specific? I want to package something for Debian. Is there a FAQ or Guide on packaging? Also does anyone know of a free Debian book besides that _old_ O'Reilly one :) Saw a new Debian book at B&N but it was like $40 USD (ouch)! |
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| 08:29.08 | superlinux | sharpy, there is also danseguardian |
| 08:29.26 | superlinux | but did not understand how to use it |
| 08:29.26 | Dwonis | zu22: it _can_ be release-specific, and you should probably assume it is. |
| 08:29.28 | superlinux | squid gaurd is easier |
| 08:29.35 | dondelelcaro | !tell zu22 -about nm guide |
| 08:29.42 | dondelelcaro | zu22: the free one is the debian quick reference; |
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| 08:30.00 | Gnea | superlinux: did you read /usr/share/doc/squidguard/ ? |
| 08:30.03 | sharpy | superlinux, err.. i really need to man it. I Dont think it will run as a regular user. Is it a service? or? |
| 08:30.07 | dondelelcaro | zu22: there's also _Debian System_ and _Debian Bible_... |
| 08:30.21 | Gnea | sharpy: it's an extension to squid, basically |
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| 08:30.52 | superlinux | I have printed it and studied it |
| 08:30.58 | sharpy | Gnea, oh .. then i need to man that too. and apt-get it. I basically want to protect my kids from those sites. |
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| 08:31.03 | superlinux | Gnea, ave printed it and studied it |
| 08:31.10 | jm_ | DansGuardian docs explain how to use it with squid |
| 08:31.15 | Gnea | right on |
| 08:31.24 | superlinux | Gnea, better to print it |
| 08:31.53 | Gnea | superlinux: *shrug* i just read it in another terminal, but as long as it gets read and understood :) |
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| 08:32.11 | superlinux | there is an html form |
| 08:32.38 | Gnea | hrm, i wonder how many redirect programs squid can handle at once.... |
| 08:32.43 | sharpy | superlinux, err.. typing: squidguard at the command line starts it. IS there some rc file i need to edit? sorry being lazy at the moment and not man squidguard. |
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| 08:32.49 | zu22 | dondelelcaro: thanks! |
| 08:33.05 | complexity | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.06 | superlinux | sharpy, read the config file |
| 08:33.17 | Gnea | sharpy: you have to read /usr/share/doc/squidguard/ for proper setup procedures |
| 08:33.19 | zu22 | Dwonis: ok |
| 08:33.31 | Dwonis | sharpy: if you want to protect your kids, you should just beat them (for no apparent reason) and then tell them "just imagine what I'll do if you _actually_ do something wrong!" |
| 08:33.33 | sharpy | Gnea, okies.. let me read that first. |
| 08:33.39 | superlinux | it squid uses the "redirect_program" to it |
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| 08:34.04 | superlinux | sharpy, have you ever setup squid before? |
| 08:34.08 | sharpy | superlinux, no never. |
| 08:34.11 | Gnea | well see, i already have this: redirect_program /usr/local/squidclamav/bin/squidclamav |
| 08:34.12 | superlinux | sharpy, you should |
| 08:34.14 | Gnea | redirect_children 5 |
| 08:34.30 | sharpy | superlinux, apt-getting it then... |
| 08:34.30 | Gnea | superlinux: so all graphics that are loaded are scanned for viruses |
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| 08:34.57 | zu22 | dondelelcaro: i need to buy a cheap laser printer cause reading PDFs make my eyes feel sore :) |
| 08:35.13 | sharpy | superlinux, ahh...it's already installed. Let me read squidguard first. |
| 08:35.23 | superlinux | sharpy, 1st do you know what is squid 1st? |
| 08:35.32 | Gnea | :) |
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| 08:35.53 | sharpy | superlinux, it's like a filter? |
| 08:36.09 | zu22 | Okidata has new laser printer for $99 wow! |
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| 08:36.42 | Dwonis | zu22: Don't forget to check http://linuxprinting.org/ |
| 08:36.53 | Gnea | ack! |
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| 08:36.55 | Gnea | Apr 26 01:36:28 garson squid[5896]: The redirector helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help! |
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| 08:38.04 | Gnea | okay, it doesn't like having more than 1 redirect program loaded at once |
| 08:38.12 | Gnea | well that's retarded |
| 08:38.26 | zu22 | Dwonis: ah, i'll bookmark that site thanks! |
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| 08:38.42 | eps | mmm uber borked unstable :| |
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| 08:40.19 | apokryphos | what do people think of the nvidia 6200? Any opinions? |
| 08:40.44 | jm_ | WFM |
| 08:40.54 | Gnea | !google nvidia 6200 review |
| 08:41.01 | dpkg | Google says nvidia 6200 review is at http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4/geforce-6200/index.x?pg=1 or http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4/geforce-6200-turbocache/index.x?pg=1 or http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/nvidia/6200/ or http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2238 or http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD04ODI= |
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| 08:41.14 | sharpy | Gnea, very interesting this squidguard. Editing the configuration file... |
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| 08:41.58 | superlinux | sharpy, squidGuard does not work without squid |
| 08:42.07 | sharpy | superlinux, i have squid installed. |
| 08:42.28 | sharpy | superlinux, hmm.. do i have to edit squid as well? |
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| 08:43.24 | superlinux | YES! |
| 08:43.27 | superlinux | you have to |
| 08:43.35 | superlinux | squid is some how big |
| 08:43.40 | Gnea | sharpy: my god, i told you what you had to read! |
| 08:44.23 | sharpy | Gnea, relax... I am reading the html from /usr/share/doc/squidguard/doc |
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| 08:44.51 | Gnea | sharpy: i see... i recommend /usr/share/doc/squidguard/README.Debian too |
| 08:44.55 | Gnea | *hint hint* |
| 08:44.55 | superlinux | sharpy, ..and you can use it to share the HTTP and FTP only with other network clients |
| 08:45.03 | superlinux | what Gnea ? |
| 08:45.15 | Gnea | ? |
| 08:45.25 | sharpy | README.Debian :-) |
| 08:45.32 | Gnea | :) |
| 08:46.33 | sharpy | Gnea, ahh... Ivan E. Moore makes it too easy... |
| 08:46.43 | _nano_ | Hi, I have a radeon 7500 card, my glxinfo says "direct rendering: no"....is there a way to turn it on? |
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| 08:46.56 | Mazingaro | please, could anyone help me with that??? http://pastebin.com/682549 |
| 08:46.57 | sharpy | Gnea, well..with a grain of salt of course. |
| 08:47.01 | Gnea | always read the README's first, always.... ;) |
| 08:47.11 | sharpy | Gnea, will do from now on. :-) |
| 08:47.12 | superlinux | sharpy, apt-get install chastity-list also |
| 08:47.18 | Gnea | sharpy: i keep my shaker filled at all times |
| 08:47.25 | superlinux | for the squidgaurd db |
| 08:47.34 | sharpy | superlinux, apt getting it ... |
| 08:48.52 | superlinux | read the manual of the chastity-list in README.Debian |
| 08:49.10 | lakcaj | _nano_, the "radeon" module supports 3d acceleration |
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| 08:49.31 | Mazingaro | :( |
| 08:50.09 | _nano_ | lakcaj, I see "radeon" in the device section of my xorg.conf file...hang on lemme pastebin that... |
| 08:51.00 | tarzeau | heh "rotate the bishop so he doesn't look retarded" |
| 08:51.24 | _nano_ | lakcaj, http://pastebin.com/682554 |
| 08:51.58 | _nano_ | lakcaj, is there a way to reinstall the radeon module? |
| 08:52.28 | Gnea | wtf, i'm not seeing the chastity-list package |
| 08:52.30 | Gnea | !info chastity-list |
| 08:52.40 | Gnea | 01:52 <dpkg> Package 'chastity-list' does not exist. |
| 08:52.48 | superlinux | eff! |
| 08:52.57 | Gnea | ludacris!!! |
| 08:53.04 | superlinux | Gnea, I have it in the stable pkg list |
| 08:53.24 | superlinux | you can use then the black list file from squidguard.org |
| 08:53.36 | Gnea | Suggested packages: |
| 08:53.36 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.44 | Gnea | it's suggested, and yet it doesn't exist |
| 08:53.49 | Gnea | now that's some funny shit |
| 08:54.01 | superlinux | then you have to apt-get update the pkg list |
| 08:54.14 | eps | " Use kernel framebuffer device interface? " updating to xorg7 ... personal recommendations any one? is one faster than straight hardware interface? |
| 08:54.26 | Gnea | hrm |
| 08:54.33 | Gnea | i should just able to dpkg -i it |
| 08:54.38 | superlinux | Gnea, add this mirror |
| 08:54.41 | superlinux | deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main contrib non-free |
| 08:54.55 | Gnea | ooo |
| 08:55.22 | superlinux | and this one too |
| 08:55.24 | superlinux | deb http://ftp.debian.org/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 08:55.43 | superlinux | Gnea, 1st |
| 08:55.53 | superlinux | are you on sid or stable debian? |
| 08:56.01 | Gnea | well i run sid/unstable, so this'll be interesting |
| 08:56.18 | superlinux | better use the stable or the testing |
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| 08:56.27 | superlinux | never ever use the sid |
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| 08:57.02 | superlinux | cos such things are belongig to office serving |
| 08:57.14 | Gnea | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=chastity-list&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
| 08:57.23 | superlinux | that does n ot mean you cant use it |
| 08:57.33 | Gnea | superlinux: in production mode, i use stable. but for everything else, i use sid |
| 08:57.39 | Gnea | :) |
| 08:57.48 | StijnT | same here |
| 08:58.00 | Gnea | !beer StijnT |
| 08:58.15 | StijnT | thanks Gnea ;) |
| 08:58.21 | Gnea | !beer superlinux |
| 08:58.24 | superlinux | well I don't use sid in any way |
| 08:58.48 | Gnea | that's fine. but if no one used sid, then testing and stable would never exist :) |
| 08:59.03 | StijnT | :) |
| 08:59.15 | superlinux | I added the source of unstable with the stable and when taking the latest version it asks to remove my kernel LOL! |
| 08:59.24 | Gnea | anyway, it looks like chastity-list is part of stable and oldstable (woody) only now... odd |
| 08:59.44 | Gnea | yeah, don't want to mix the two - it's one or the other :) |
| 09:00.03 | superlinux | Gnea, never mind you can go to the SG site and download the list |
| 09:01.27 | Gnea | http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chastity-list.html |
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| 09:01.51 | Gnea | superlinux: yeah - i'm trying to figure out why they removed it and what requirements it will have to meet to be included once again |
| 09:01.54 | superlinux | Gnea go to squidguard.org |
| 09:02.22 | sharpy | You also need to make sure all your blacklist files are owned by the "proxy" user. All these files need to be located under /var/lib/squidguard/db <--Does this mean putting usr/local/squidGuard/db/porn/domains and /usr/local/squidGuard/db/porn/urls in that path? |
| 09:02.35 | superlinux | http://ftp.teledanmark.no/pub/www/proxy/squidGuard/contrib/blacklists.tar.gz download this |
| 09:02.38 | Gnea | The porn section of the blacklist has now more than 100.000 entries!! <-- that's a lot of porn ;) |
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| 09:03.08 | superlinux | heh! Wowww! |
| 09:03.09 | Gnea | done. |
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| 09:03.19 | sharpy | or /etc/squid/SquidGuard? |
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| 09:03.37 | aes52 | hrm can anyone tell me how I would monitor DNS requests which my machine makes to some server in particular? |
| 09:03.50 | superlinux | untar in /var/lib/squidguard/ |
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| 09:04.05 | sharpy | darn.. laptop froze... brb |
| 09:04.24 | superlinux | and mv blacklist db |
| 09:04.51 | superlinux | then do uptdate-squidgaurd |
| 09:04.57 | superlinux | Gnea, ok with u? |
| 09:05.28 | Gnea | superlinux: almost, reviewing... |
| 09:05.52 | Gnea | OMFG |
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| 09:05.59 | Gnea | it thinks that pricewatch.com is a warez site!! |
| 09:06.17 | Gnea | superlinux: i can guarantee you 100% that that is an inaccurate description. |
| 09:06.33 | Gnea | superlinux: pricewatch.com is a computer hardware and consumer electronics portal |
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| 09:07.35 | sharpy | Gnea, put the db/porn/domains and /db/porn/urls where again? in /var/lib/squidGuard ? |
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| 09:07.52 | sharpy | Gnea, laptop froze for sec there.. |
| 09:07.56 | superlinux | lol! |
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| 09:08.15 | Gnea | sharpy: yeah basically - make sure the squidGuard.conf file can read 'em |
| 09:08.52 | sharpy | Gnea, okies... btw, could u please post the url for the chastity-list file? I can't seem to apt-get it. |
| 09:09.02 | superlinux | sharpy, did you untar as I said? |
| 09:09.17 | sharpy | superlinux, i didn't get it because i got disconnected. |
| 09:09.37 | superlinux | copy and untar the file in /var/lib/squidguard/ |
| 09:09.42 | Gnea | sharpy: superlinux already did |
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| 09:09.50 | superlinux | and then mv blacklist db |
| 09:09.57 | Gnea | sharpy: don't need the .deb, just get the tarball |
| 09:10.04 | Gnea | it's more up-to-date anyway :) |
| 09:10.14 | superlinux | so it'll be compatibel wth the update-squidguard command |
| 09:10.46 | sharpy | Gnea, yes.. but i dont have the tarball addy. I can't scroll back up on history that is not there since X crashed. |
| 09:11.29 | superlinux | http://ftp.teledanmark.no/pub/www/proxy/squidGuard/contrib/blacklists.tar.gz download this |
| 09:11.35 | superlinux | sharpy, here it's |
| 09:11.43 | superlinux | it's in the site of SG |
| 09:12.06 | sharpy | thank u. |
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| 09:12.10 | superlinux | welcome |
| 09:12.25 | ayers | I apt-get upgrade'd my sarge last night (which upgraded gdm) and I'm unable to start either GNOME and KDE desktops |
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| 09:12.35 | ayers | I can only login via xterm |
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| 09:13.02 | ayers | I can't seem to locate the correct log files to figure out what's going wrong. |
| 09:13.11 | ayers | Can someone give me a pointer? |
| 09:13.13 | superlinux | ayers, do /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 09:13.20 | superlinux | try that 1st |
| 09:13.40 | Gnea | ayers: with the xterm, type 'startkde >& kde.log' |
| 09:14.06 | superlinux | no Gnea |
| 09:14.10 | Gnea | er, startkde > kde.log |
| 09:14.16 | ayers | thanks, gdm starts. I've been doing /etc/init.d/gdm restart via ssh each time it locks up. |
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| 09:14.34 | superlinux | aha! |
| 09:14.44 | ayers | Gnea: I'll try that... |
| 09:14.50 | superlinux | me thought you are working locally |
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| 09:15.10 | superlinux | sharpy, what happend now with you? |
| 09:15.11 | ayers | superlinux: well both |
| 09:15.36 | ayers | I have the laptop in front of me but it's on a network so i can ssh into it. |
| 09:15.38 | sharpy | superlinux, just configuring and trying to learn where to put example 3 on squidguard.conf |
| 09:16.03 | superlinux | then do the gdm start from vty through ALT+Ctrl+Fn |
| 09:16.15 | superlinux | ok sharpy |
| 09:16.19 | cheal | ayers: we can't help you much if you don't tell us what happens |
| 09:16.56 | superlinux | sharpy, in /etc/squid/squidGuard.conf |
| 09:17.01 | ayers | cheal: OK let me be more specific.. |
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| 09:17.19 | ayers | I get the gdm login window. |
| 09:17.23 | superlinux | sharpy, you MUST config squid 1st |
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| 09:17.35 | rhalff_ | any of you know a tool for windows that can watch my debian syslog remotely, any standard tools for that in use :) |
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| 09:17.57 | ayers | I can enter user and pwd and then then the login disappers (I start gnome by default) |
| 09:18.06 | ayers | I see the debian splash |
| 09:18.07 | superlinux | sharpy, to make it easy to config squid use webmin-squid |
| 09:18.08 | sharpy | superlinux, all i did to squid.conf was this: redirect_program /usr/bin/squidGuard -c /etc/squid/squidGuard.conf |
| 09:18.27 | ayers | The hardisk truns a while, and then it simply stops. |
| 09:18.30 | sharpy | superlinux, per the README.Debian instructions. |
| 09:18.40 | superlinux | no you have to tell it also whom squid will reply to |
| 09:18.56 | superlinux | do as I say and you won't regret it |
| 09:18.56 | sharpy | superlinux, nah.. i rather learn this. Sooner or later i have to dwelve into a terminal. |
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| 09:19.09 | superlinux | sure |
| 09:19.15 | sharpy | superlinux, oh |
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| 09:19.54 | superlinux | no retreat from a terminal and shell in linux |
| 09:19.57 | sharpy | superlinux, i dont have webmin either... but setting squidGuard can't be all that difficult? |
| 09:20.00 | superlinux | or any unix system |
| 09:20.20 | superlinux | apt-get install webmin-squid |
| 09:20.57 | superlinux | it's easy |
| 09:21.00 | cast | httpd's with root are scary :\ |
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| 09:21.28 | superlinux | webmin will let you config it from browser |
| 09:21.30 | sharpy | Package webmin-squid is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or blah..blah.. |
| 09:21.47 | superlinux | see hell with sid! |
| 09:22.28 | sharpy | sid? i have testing... |
| 09:22.28 | superlinux | seems sid is only for desktop users |
| 09:22.36 | superlinux | I donno |
| 09:23.04 | superlinux | can I have an ssh session to have a look? |
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| 09:23.30 | sharpy | superlinux, sure.. although I am not sure how. |
| 09:23.35 | superlinux | lol! |
| 09:24.01 | superlinux | forget it then |
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| 09:24.18 | pngwn | sharpy, don't give people you don't know access to your box |
| 09:24.28 | ChrisW | mornin' |
| 09:24.30 | cast | sharpy: especially if they use webmin |
| 09:24.37 | pngwn | heh |
| 09:24.50 | sharpy | okies.. |
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| 09:25.17 | superlinux | add this line in squid.conf |
| 09:25.21 | superlinux | acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255 |
| 09:25.24 | ChrisW | when sshing to a box for the first time ,you're asked if you want to trust it and provided the fingerprint... is there any way to do a forced "yes, I don't care" as a command line option? (this is for use in cron jobs and the like) |
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| 09:26.42 | superlinux | sharpy, and http_access allow localhost |
| 09:26.51 | Gnea | ChrisW: no, that would defeat the purpose |
| 09:26.54 | jengelh | chrisw: i think there was a config option |
| 09:27.07 | superlinux | sharpy, before the lines http_access deny all |
| 09:27.25 | ayers | Gnea: ~$ startkde | tee kde.log |
| 09:27.25 | ayers | startkde: Starting up... |
| 09:27.25 | ayers | QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used |
| 09:27.25 | ayers | [KDE Splash, first icon blinks in color, first icon goes solid a second icon blinks in color "Starting Sytstem Services [I guess as it's in german here]", Splash disapears after about 20 seconds] |
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| 09:27.31 | jengelh | ChrisW: ssh ... -o CheckHostIP=no |
| 09:27.32 | ChrisW | Gnea: what purpose? preventing cron jobs running through ;-) |
| 09:27.39 | superlinux | and put the http_port 8080 also |
| 09:27.41 | ChrisW | jengelh: thanks, you're a genius :-) |
| 09:27.47 | jengelh | man ssh_config |
| 09:28.01 | Gnea | 2006-04-26 02:26:38 [6471] recalculating alarm in 20002 seconds |
| 09:28.02 | Gnea | 2006-04-26 02:26:38 [6471] squidGuard ready for requests (1146043598.465) |
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| 09:28.29 | ChrisW | jengelh: yeah, thought I'd seen it somewhere... but it's like looking for a needle in a haystack if you don't know where to look... |
| 09:28.31 | maxxle | I use gxine for playing videos on my debian/etch box. Always if I start it the gxine wizard appears and I must close it. Is there a way to stop that wizard thing? |
| 09:28.37 | superlinux | in the browser config proxy to be localhost=>8080 |
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| 09:28.49 | superlinux | sharpy, got it? |
| 09:28.59 | priscila | quit |
| 09:29.01 | priscila | ops |
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| 09:30.00 | sharpy | superlinux, ok.. db uncompressed in /var/lib/squidguard/db |
| 09:30.53 | superlinux | then do update-squidguard |
| 09:30.53 | sharpy | superlinux, no..not exactly.. where shall i put those commands ^^ |
| 09:30.53 | jind | Which release number is sarge? 3.1rc2? |
| 09:30.53 | superlinux | in shell darling! |
| 09:30.53 | sharpy | superlinux, i meant the blacklist file. |
| 09:30.53 | cheal | !tell jind about sarge |
| 09:30.53 | superlinux | open a shell as root |
| 09:30.56 | sharpy | oh ok. |
| 09:31.09 | Gnea | hrmm |
| 09:31.18 | superlinux | sharpy, you have to get used to shell |
| 09:31.30 | sharpy | trying... :-) |
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| 09:31.33 | superlinux | sharpy, do you have skype installed? |
| 09:31.47 | superlinux | I will speek to you |
| 09:31.59 | sharpy | no. But i will. Text is fine atm. |
| 09:32.14 | superlinux | I like this ATM! |
| 09:32.35 | sharpy | "sharpy, before the lines http_access deny all" what lines? |
| 09:32.46 | Gnea | hold on fellaz :) |
| 09:33.20 | cheal | maxxle: did you check the BTS? |
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| 09:33.48 | ciroro | by default, grep -C 1 foo.txt prints a line with -- between matches; can I disable this? |
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| 09:34.44 | superlinux | sharpy, just put the above lines I told you about |
| 09:34.45 | sharpy | debian:/var/lib/squidguard/db# http_access allow localhost bash: http_access: command not found |
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| 09:34.50 | superlinux | look Ill prvt you |
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| 09:35.28 | Gnea | sharpy: that's a squid.conf directive |
| 09:35.31 | Gnea | not a command |
| 09:35.34 | IceTox | brb.. need to restart gdm [amsg] |
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| 09:35.50 | sharpy | Gnea, oh.. ok. thanks. |
| 09:35.53 | Gnea | oh snap, i got it to work! |
| 09:36.00 | Gnea | sharpy: dude, this is so easy... |
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| 09:36.42 | maxxle | cheal: Hm. Maybe I should have a look at it. |
| 09:36.43 | sharpy | Gnea, to u perhaps. But I am no dude..then again anyone can be anyone. :-) |
| 09:36.48 | Gnea | erk... |
| 09:36.52 | Gnea | lol |
| 09:37.03 | Gnea | sharpy: actually, i just found some issues ;) but i did get it to redirect |
| 09:37.12 | Gnea | sharpy: sorry about that |
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| 09:37.40 | sharpy | Gnea, okies... so just put those commands earlier at the top of squidGuard.conf then? |
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| 09:37.52 | superlinux | no sharpy |
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| 09:38.06 | superlinux | read the privte msgs |
| 09:38.19 | superlinux | just follow me |
| 09:38.27 | sharpy | okies.. |
| 09:38.51 | Gnea | sharpy: no, squid.conf - check out what superlinux has to say |
| 09:39.08 | sharpy | dang it.. squid.conf..sorry. |
| 09:39.09 | superlinux | is hee so.. |
| 09:39.43 | maxxle | cheal: You're right. It's listed as bug. I will wait for the next version. |
| 09:39.49 | superlinux | nothing bad will happen ...just follow |
| 09:40.29 | superlinux | Gnea, I thnk he still has the windows brain wash |
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| 09:40.38 | superlinux | case |
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| 09:41.45 | Gnea | superlinux: no, he is a she :) |
| 09:41.57 | superlinux | whatever |
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| 09:42.17 | superlinux | you know the defaults |
| 09:43.21 | Gnea | this thing is tricky |
| 09:43.33 | superlinux | which is? |
| 09:43.40 | Gnea | squidguard |
| 09:43.48 | superlinux | no |
| 09:43.54 | Gnea | it's easy to ban everything or nothing at all |
| 09:44.03 | superlinux | yea |
| 09:44.27 | superlinux | but still has some problems |
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| 09:44.36 | Gnea | of course |
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| 09:44.50 | superlinux | like it doesnot work in transparent proxy |
| 09:45.03 | Gnea | sure it does |
| 09:45.10 | Gnea | i'm using it in a transparent proxy right now |
| 09:45.16 | superlinux | not with me |
| 09:45.17 | Gnea | the problem is with the configuration |
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| 09:45.28 | superlinux | wich is? |
| 09:45.41 | Gnea | ..what i'm trying to figure out ;) |
| 09:45.52 | superlinux | no it won't |
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| 09:46.04 | superlinux | you jave to reconfigre iptables |
| 09:46.09 | superlinux | you have to reconfigre iptables |
| 09:46.10 | Gnea | lol |
| 09:46.19 | Gnea | hold on a second... |
| 09:46.30 | Gnea | i've been using linux, iptables and squid for well over 5 years now |
| 09:46.35 | Gnea | i'm pretty sure i know what i'm talking about here |
| 09:46.40 | superlinux | aha |
| 09:46.44 | Gnea | closer to 10 years, actually |
| 09:46.47 | Gnea | :) |
| 09:46.54 | superlinux | I am since 1999 |
| 09:47.07 | Gnea | i know for a fact that my iptables rules are solid |
| 09:47.17 | superlinux | we are granpa's in that then! LOL! |
| 09:47.41 | superlinux | excelent |
| 09:47.52 | Gnea | i also happen to know that SOME squid programs will not work with transparent proxy |
| 09:48.14 | superlinux | but I read it read this: http://www.maynidea.com/squidguard/ident.html |
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| 09:48.20 | Gnea | and since i can get the default parameters to redirect any site to google.com, i know that it will, in fact, work with it |
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| 09:49.46 | paines | hi |
| 09:49.55 | banditcountry | hi |
| 09:50.01 | sharpy | " and put the http_port 8080 also" = http_access allow http_port 8080 ? |
| 09:50.02 | banditcountry | nobody is here |
| 09:50.44 | superlinux | sharpy, set the http_port as 8080 read the squid comments |
| 09:50.46 | Gnea | mine's set to 3128 |
| 09:50.50 | Gnea | but whatever works |
| 09:50.51 | superlinux | I know |
| 09:50.59 | superlinux | this is the ISP's default |
| 09:51.05 | banditcountry | 3128? proxy? |
| 09:51.11 | superlinux | yea |
| 09:51.12 | Gnea | this thing is fucking annoying |
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| 09:51.39 | sharpy | okies... what a loooong file. |
| 09:52.04 | Gnea | sharpy: hehe, i spent a few hours once just perfecting mine - yeah, i was bored then |
| 09:52.28 | superlinux | that's why using webmin is recommended |
| 09:52.45 | Gnea | please do not get me started on webmin. |
| 09:52.49 | Gnea | i will tear you a new asshole. :) |
| 09:52.59 | StijnT | brrr, webmin |
| 09:53.08 | Gnea | !webmin |
| 09:53.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 09:53.29 | StijnT | :p |
| 09:53.37 | Gnea | and that is that. now, back to configuration... |
| 09:53.38 | banditcountry | is it safe to set the proxy on the firewall? |
| 09:53.40 | sharpy | Gnea, about what row is this http_port thing ? |
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| 09:53.58 | SimonRaven | it is not recommended |
| 09:54.04 | banditcountry | hehehe |
| 09:54.18 | Gnea | sharpy: ick, i'm not sure... i pretty much did away with all comments in it altogether... what editor are you using? |
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| 09:54.47 | sharpy | Gnea, nano ..sometimes "joe" and when i am in a bad mood: vim or vi |
| 09:54.49 | SimonRaven | banditcountry: i was speaking of webmin. just making sure you're giggling at the right thing ;p |
| 09:54.50 | superlinux | sharpy, put it above |
| 09:55.12 | Gnea | sharpy: if you were me, you'd always be in a bad mood ;) |
| 09:55.37 | sharpy | Gnea, i bet. Most guys use vi or vim. |
| 09:55.52 | sharpy | superlinux, hard to find this commented line. :-) Trying again... |
| 09:55.58 | Gnea | sharpy: okay - ^W and then Search: http_port |
| 09:56.03 | Gnea | sharpy: should take you right to it |
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| 09:56.19 | sharpy | ack ... |
| 09:56.24 | sharpy | did a ^W here. |
| 09:56.28 | Gnea | oops, did you catch that? |
| 09:56.28 | Gnea | lol |
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| 09:56.32 | sharpy | no. |
| 09:56.36 | Gnea | !beer sharpy |
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| 09:56.44 | Gnea | sharpy: okay - ^W and then Search: http_port |
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| 09:57.07 | superlinux | sharpy, sure I use vim |
| 09:57.48 | sharpy | Gnea, okies... i got it: TAG: http_port |
| 09:57.56 | Gnea | sharpy: sweet |
| 09:58.34 | sharpy | The default port number is 3128. <--- not true? change it to 8080? |
| 09:58.43 | superlinux | it's truwe |
| 09:58.55 | superlinux | but this way you ccan remeberr it |
| 09:59.36 | sharpy | but it's commented it. So just create a new line http_port 8080 then. |
| 09:59.49 | Gnea | good idea |
| 09:59.49 | superlinux | yes |
| 10:00.13 | sharpy | ok done. phew.. |
| 10:00.18 | superlinux | lol! |
| 10:00.20 | sharpy | now update something... :-) |
| 10:00.38 | superlinux | wait save ind restart squid |
| 10:01.35 | sharpy | update-squidguard done. Hmm.. when i type. www.sex.com i still see the site.. maybe i missed something. |
| 10:01.43 | superlinux | no |
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| 10:02.05 | superlinux | you have to tell the browser of your squid manually |
| 10:02.13 | Gnea | have to edit squidGuard.conf now |
| 10:02.18 | Gnea | or that too |
| 10:02.24 | Gnea | i'm still doing transparent proxy |
| 10:02.31 | sharpy | proxy? what's that? |
| 10:02.38 | superlinux | squid is a proxy |
| 10:02.40 | sharpy | !proxy |
| 10:02.40 | dpkg | hmm... proxy is This is commonly a form of Internet security. You can use a proxy or proxy server to pass data between your internal network and the Internet. A machine on your network sends a request to the proxy. The proxy sends the request to a server on the Internet. Thus, it stands in for the computer on your network. The server on the Internet never knows that the request is coming from anywhere but the proxy. Thus 100 machines on your network ... |
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| 10:02.58 | sharpy | ahh |
| 10:03.07 | Gnea | a transparent proxy is a proxy that's always there and always on |
| 10:03.16 | Gnea | so clients don't need to configure anything |
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| 10:03.33 | sharpy | Gnea, ok.. i guess i can instruct my browser. I think Firefox has this proxy thingie. |
| 10:03.42 | superlinux | all has it |
| 10:03.54 | Gnea | sharpy: yup, edit->preferences |
| 10:03.58 | sharpy | Gnea, what shall put in there? |
| 10:04.07 | superlinux | localhost => 8080 |
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| 10:04.13 | Gnea | yeah |
| 10:04.18 | bliss1_ | hi |
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| 10:04.35 | avonej | Hey, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good sound card with open source drivers and a front panel drive bay with additional connectors similar to a Creative Live Drive (Optical, SPDIF, and composite in/out)? |
| 10:05.03 | sharpy | superlinux, okies.. |
| 10:05.04 | superlinux | this way you ll have 2 advantages.. internet performing faster and blocking sites |
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| 10:05.24 | Gnea | avonej: i don't know anything else like that, but the RME Hammerfall has multiple hardware dsps onboard.... |
| 10:05.45 | superlinux | the speed is from squid's cache and Sgaurd for blocking |
| 10:05.56 | Gnea | avonej: it's not cheap, either :) |
| 10:06.30 | superlinux | sharpy, is it working yet? |
| 10:06.44 | Growly | debian ftw |
| 10:07.02 | avonej | Gnea: Yikes... yeah I just checked the prices. |
| 10:07.07 | Gnea | Growly: what? |
| 10:07.26 | Gnea | avonej: i helped someone set one up once, that soundcard was the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! |
| 10:07.32 | marco13185 | how do I add transparency support in xorg? |
| 10:07.40 | avonej | I'm having troubles because I switched to Debian and I was using Pro Tools with my MBox... |
| 10:07.48 | sharpy | superlinux, umm...no. i typed in HTTP proxy: localhost and the square next to it (which i think is the port) 8080 |
| 10:07.54 | avonej | And I really would like to get out of proprietary vendor lock-in hell... |
| 10:08.05 | Gnea | pro tools? |
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| 10:08.35 | avonej | It's a proprietary DAW application by DigiDesign... likely the most popular in the music recording industry. |
| 10:08.38 | nonex-nlp | ppl me need sorc kernel 2.6.15-1 where???? |
| 10:08.50 | banditcountry | hahaha, parrots are here |
| 10:08.59 | Gnea | nonex-nlp: it's in apt |
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| 10:09.05 | avonej | Ardour was made to be similar to ProTools in many respects, especially UI design I believe... |
| 10:09.07 | nonex-nlp | name lsit? |
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| 10:09.14 | nonex-nlp | sorry me bad english |
| 10:09.16 | apenguinlinux | Hi |
| 10:09.18 | avonej | But the point is that I need a workable open hardware solution first... |
| 10:09.22 | nonex-nlp | y me use apt-get |
| 10:09.23 | sharpy | Gnea, is this ok: there is a line for No Proxy for: localhost, 127.0.0.1 ? Delete it or leave it alone ? |
| 10:09.30 | Gnea | nonex-nlp: apt-cache search 2.6.15 if you're using testing or unstable |
| 10:09.30 | nonex-nlp | no list |
| 10:09.32 | superlinux | sharpy, yes that's how you should type it |
| 10:09.33 | bliss1_ | i have been following a how to which requires kernel-source-2.6.8.tar.bz2 and kernel-patches but since the howto was wriiten a few months ago i find a .deb file kernel-source-2.6.8_2.6.8-16sarge2_all.deb which include's the patch by installing this with dpkg -i whats the diffrence than doing down the tar route? |
| 10:09.46 | quitte | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.47 | apenguinlinux | How can i know that in which date i have install pkg ?? |
| 10:09.56 | nonex-nlp | sources list server?? |
| 10:09.59 | nonex-nlp | name |
| 10:10.04 | tarzeau | apenguinlinux: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 10:10.08 | superlinux | sharpy, let's be private better for you and me |
| 10:10.09 | tarzeau | apenguinlinux: that's for etch+ |
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| 10:10.19 | Gnea | sharpy: i would just add one for HTTP Proxy: localhost Port: 8080 |
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| 10:10.51 | Gnea | nonex-nlp: what branch of debian do you use? |
| 10:10.54 | sharpy | Gnea, so erase that line that says: No Proxy for: localhost, 127.0.0.1 |
| 10:11.10 | superlinux | hiccups! that's a nice Wine-dows drink! since 1985 |
| 10:11.10 | avonej | Gnea: I'm checking RME's website, and on first glance it doesn't even appear that they provide binary GNU/Linux drivers, let alone open source ones... |
| 10:11.18 | apenguinlinux | tarzeau, for example if i will use gentoo then i can use genlop and it will give me details,,but if i will use dpkg -l its shows me pkg list but not shows that in which dat i have done it |
| 10:11.23 | Gnea | sharpy: i'm not following... are you using mozilla or firefox? |
| 10:11.39 | sharpy | Gnea, firefox |
| 10:11.49 | tarzeau | apenguinlinux: yes, that's why there is /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 10:11.50 | Gnea | avonej: it's in the kernel with ALSA |
| 10:11.53 | superlinux | sharpy, just set it for all |
| 10:12.00 | avonej | Oh, okay |
| 10:12.23 | Chigvan | hello, anyone used acidrip here? Is there a way of splitting a file with it? ie; say limiting the file size to 200 and splitting that between 2 files of 100mb each? |
| 10:12.25 | superlinux | sharpy, just set it for all ftp http ..etc |
| 10:12.27 | nonex-nlp | apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 10:12.27 | Gnea | sharpy: same here, if i go to connection settings, i am presented with HTTP Proxy:, a checkbox for using the same with all, and then one for FTP and so on... |
| 10:12.30 | nonex-nlp | no |
| 10:12.34 | nonex-nlp | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.34 | superlinux | and all browsers even |
| 10:12.47 | apenguinlinux | tarzeau, No there is nothig ?? |
| 10:12.48 | Gnea | nonex-nlp: what BRANCH? sarge, etch or sid? |
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| 10:12.55 | tarzeau | apenguinlinux: you have stable then |
| 10:12.58 | nonex-nlp | testing |
| 10:13.02 | nonex-nlp | Gnea testing |
| 10:13.05 | sharpy | Gnea, just making sure that my http://www.squidguard.org/config/#Minimal example 4 is ok. I didnt edit anything out except the first two lines. |
| 10:13.14 | Gnea | apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
| 10:13.29 | Gnea | nonex-nlp: make sure to apt-get update first |
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| 10:13.47 | nonex-nlp | linux-image-2.6-686 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines |
| 10:13.48 | nonex-nlp | linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 - Linux kernel 2.6.15 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines |
| 10:13.48 | Arafangion | Does the default OpenOffice.org that is part of Debian Stable (Sarge) have Java support? |
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| 10:13.58 | Arafangion | (ie, support for programming with OOo using Java) |
| 10:14.02 | nonex-nlp | next command? |
| 10:14.03 | apenguinlinux | tarzeau, No i am using testing ?? |
| 10:14.06 | Gnea | sharpy: oh, sorry, i was completely thrown off lol |
| 10:14.32 | Gnea | nonex-nlp: first, what CPU do you have? |
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| 10:14.36 | superlinux | sharpy, plz be with me in privet.. I want to really help you |
| 10:14.43 | nonex-nlp | p4 |
| 10:14.44 | sharpy | Gnea, no probs.. I mean setting Firefox is all fine but if the underlying squidGuard.conf file is wrong then... it wont work. |
| 10:14.46 | Gnea | sharpy: yeah, that should be fine |
| 10:14.49 | nonex-nlp | pentium 4 |
| 10:14.55 | Arafangion | superlinux: prevet? |
| 10:14.58 | Gnea | nonex-nlp: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 10:15.02 | superlinux | I mean private |
| 10:15.13 | geko | hey, im getting problems with ipw2200..i compiled ieee modules and ipw2200 but when i try to load ieee i got this: |
| 10:15.14 | Gnea | superlinux: let's keep it public, please |
| 10:15.17 | superlinux | ok |
| 10:15.19 | lehel | hey.. there is in the deb packages kde 3.5? |
| 10:15.23 | Gnea | it's easier to learn that way |
| 10:15.24 | superlinux | I hink we said it all |
| 10:15.25 | Arafangion | Gnea: No, if it's private, let it stay that way. |
| 10:15.27 | superlinux | I think we said it all |
| 10:15.35 | geko | ieee80211: Unknown symbol wireless_spy_update |
| 10:15.37 | apenguinlinux | lehel, yes |
| 10:15.39 | sharpy | hmm.. i still see www.sex.com |
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| 10:15.50 | Gnea | Arafangion: do you even know what we're talking about? |
| 10:15.52 | apenguinlinux | lehel, install using apt-get install kde3.5 |
| 10:15.56 | Gnea | Arafangion: no? i didn't think so. |
| 10:16.01 | sharpy | restarted browser, and erased cache. |
| 10:16.05 | geko | i got another errors in ipw, but i think its because i cant load ieee |
| 10:16.30 | Gnea | it's called "open source" and "help channel" for a reason |
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| 10:16.35 | lehel | apenguinlinux: how do i change my sources.list? |
| 10:16.42 | estbadarse | hello |
| 10:16.57 | geko | lehel, nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:17.06 | lehel | geko ;).. |
| 10:17.12 | estbadarse | this is the first time I've ever used Linux |
| 10:17.15 | lehel | not how., what do i put there to see the kde3.5 |
| 10:17.16 | lehel | ? |
| 10:17.28 | geko | lehel, search google |
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| 10:17.45 | lehel | i asked apenguinlinux |
| 10:17.47 | estbadarse | Hello |
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| 10:18.01 | nStensen | dondelelcaro: still here? |
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| 10:19.11 | geko | lehel, im serious, when you dont know wich sources to use, go to google |
| 10:19.12 | Chigvan | can someone tell me if this command is correct for setting compression levels with rar? (rar a -m5 archive filename) it just dosent seem to compress it anymore than the default level. |
| 10:19.41 | sharpy | Gnea, would it be ok.. if i send u the squidguard.conf file and let me know if it's ok? I am still seeing that site. |
| 10:19.55 | Gnea | sharpy: sure - use the pastebot site tho |
| 10:19.56 | Gnea | !paster |
| 10:19.57 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 10:20.03 | geko | i got this error modprobin ieee: ieee80211: Unknown symbol wireless_spy_update |
| 10:20.03 | geko | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:20.09 | apenguinlinux | lehel, use apt-setup |
| 10:20.32 | apenguinlinux | lehel, or edit by manually vi /etc/apt/source.list |
| 10:20.33 | Gnea | sharpy: if you can't get to the site, let me know |
| 10:20.45 | Gnea | geko: what kernel? |
| 10:20.46 | sharpy | Gnea, already there.. :-) |
| 10:20.52 | Gnea | :D |
| 10:20.54 | lehel | apenguinlinux, which is the http...?? |
| 10:21.16 | geko | Gnea, 2.6.15 |
| 10:21.22 | apenguinlinux | lehel, wait ? |
| 10:21.57 | Gnea | sharpy: whoa - i got it to work |
| 10:22.17 | Gnea | it's successfully blocking all of the sites that i tell it to block from the blacklist |
| 10:22.22 | apenguinlinux | lehel, deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian testing main contrib non-free |
| 10:22.31 | superlinux | this is how to set it up |
| 10:22.34 | Gnea | superlinux: it works in transparent proxy mode. |
| 10:22.37 | Gnea | >:) |
| 10:22.43 | sharpy | Gnea, either u are extremely talented while perusing a two hour squid.conf file or you just did it right |
| 10:22.46 | superlinux | how!! |
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| 10:22.56 | Gnea | very, very carefully |
| 10:22.59 | lehel | apenguinlinux: i have there .../debian sarge main |
| 10:23.10 | superlinux | It'd not working transparently |
| 10:23.11 | lehel | not testing anymore |
| 10:23.23 | Gnea | sharpy: well i've been an administrator for years now... so it kinda goes with the territory |
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| 10:23.37 | lamby | i'm trying to convince a local administrator to mirror debian--how much space does it need? |
| 10:23.48 | apenguinlinux | lehel, let me tell you .you have apt-setup command in your box |
| 10:24.03 | sharpy | Gnea, ahh.. you cheated then. |
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| 10:24.16 | geko | somebody, please! |
| 10:24.33 | superlinux | geko, what? |
| 10:24.35 | superlinux | ask |
| 10:24.50 | Gnea | superlinux: well, first did the whole thing with the iptables, then with squidguard, i editted the squidGuard.conf to point to dbhome /var/lib/squidguard/blacklists, went down and created a dest porn { } with some rules inside of it, then changed the acl { default { } } |
| 10:25.11 | Gnea | sharpy: pffft, she cheated on me too, besides we were in different states ;) |
| 10:25.17 | sharpy | Gnea, how do i select the entire contents of my squidGuard.conf file and paste it where u told me to? |
| 10:25.22 | geko | superlinux, i already asked, i got an error modprobing ieee: ieee80211: Unknown symbol wireless_spy_update |
| 10:25.37 | superlinux | cant help |
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| 10:25.42 | superlinux | never faced that |
| 10:25.45 | geko | anyone? |
| 10:25.53 | Phlexonance | what was the name of the kde cd burning tool? |
| 10:26.01 | geko | Phlexonance, k3b |
| 10:26.07 | Phlexonance | geko, thx |
| 10:26.16 | Gnea | sharpy: not at once, but screenfulls at a time... if you have an xterm, just grow it |
| 10:26.42 | geko | damn, i getting sad with apt..emerge does the instalation of wirelees perfectly |
| 10:26.45 | Gnea | superlinux: sec, i'll paste mine |
| 10:26.46 | geko | this shit dont |
| 10:26.51 | superlinux | ok |
| 10:26.58 | superlinux | psted prvt for me |
| 10:27.02 | superlinux | plz |
| 10:27.09 | Gnea | dude |
| 10:27.15 | superlinux | what? |
| 10:27.15 | Gnea | i'm gonna paste it in the entire channel |
| 10:27.18 | Gnea | ;) |
| 10:27.27 | superlinux | I don't wanna bloat it |
| 10:27.28 | Gnea | and not get kicked for it |
| 10:27.45 | superlinux | ok |
| 10:27.51 | superlinux | paste then |
| 10:27.56 | sharpy | Gnea, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2430 |
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| 10:28.33 | Gnea | superlinux, sharpy: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2431 |
| 10:28.37 | superlinux | ok |
| 10:29.07 | Gnea | brb |
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| 10:29.48 | superlinux | Gnea, it's the same of what I have |
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| 10:31.00 | Gnea | superlinux: it is? |
| 10:31.05 | superlinux | yes |
| 10:31.11 | Gnea | superlinux: did you comment out the worktimes? |
| 10:31.24 | superlinux | but transparency is not working |
| 10:31.29 | apenguinlinux | hay can anybody tell me that how can i know the chronological view of my packages?? |
| 10:31.35 | superlinux | I don't care about work time |
| 10:31.43 | apenguinlinux | hay can anybody tell me that how can i know the chronological view of my packages?? |
| 10:31.44 | Gnea | you should :) |
| 10:31.49 | superlinux | ok |
| 10:32.05 | MatBoy | How do I know for sure which soundsystem I use with My SB Live 5.1 ? Systemsounds are running fine... xmms doesn't want to do it... My soundsystem in KDE is autodetect for the moment |
| 10:32.13 | streuner | apenguinlinux: ls -lt /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 10:32.36 | apenguinlinux | streuner, just wait ? |
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| 10:32.47 | Gnea | !tell apenguinlinux about repeat |
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| 10:32.53 | streuner | MatBoy: look via lsmod, if there modules starting with 'snd-' you running ALSA |
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| 10:33.10 | MatBoy | streuner, OK that's nice |
| 10:33.19 | superlinux | Gnea, it's not used within the acl section |
| 10:33.32 | Gnea | superlinux: that's because it's a global setting |
| 10:33.41 | sharpy | Gnea, i think my original file worked.. but i forgot to add the url: sex.com |
| 10:33.51 | Gnea | superlinux: try commenting it out and restarting it on your end - you'll see a difference |
| 10:34.07 | sharpy | Gnea, it works wonderfully now. I might just create a webpage that says: sorry..you are not allowed in here kiddo. :-p |
| 10:34.17 | superlinux | ok |
| 10:34.17 | Gnea | sharpy: lol nice |
| 10:34.23 | MatBoy | streuner, yes indeed snd... ALSA than :) |
| 10:34.30 | apenguinlinux | streuner, yes is ok |
| 10:34.42 | sharpy | Gnea, thanks for your help |
| 10:34.46 | superlinux | Gnea, I would rather put How FUNNY! |
| 10:34.52 | sharpy | superlinux, thank u. I really appreciate your help. |
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| 10:34.58 | Gnea | sharpy: you're quite welcome |
| 10:34.59 | superlinux | wel come |
| 10:35.09 | streuner | MatBoy: cat /proc/asound/version |
| 10:35.17 | superlinux | don't go to undernet's #linux |
| 10:35.24 | superlinux | they are so arrogant |
| 10:35.25 | Gnea | haha |
| 10:35.28 | Gnea | undernet sucks |
| 10:35.38 | bender_ | many linux channels are like that |
| 10:36.04 | Gnea | true, but undernet is one of the worst networks in general |
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| 10:36.30 | Gnea | it's like, all of the aol'ers found undernet and infected it |
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| 10:36.47 | bender_ | lol |
| 10:36.52 | Korthrun | Does anyone have a clue as to what port 40995 is used for in debian. netstat just shows a "-" for the pid of what is LISTENing on the port |
| 10:36.59 | sharpy | Gnea, just out of curiosity, if i decide to build a webpage like that. How can i tell firefox to display such a webpage rather than the proxy response? |
| 10:37.07 | superlinux | Gnea, still not working |
| 10:37.24 | superlinux | I have still to manually config the browser |
| 10:37.28 | MatBoy | streuner, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC). |
| 10:37.32 | Gnea | sharpy: it'll be whatever you set the redirect directive to |
| 10:37.38 | superlinux | I have put the iptables rule already |
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| 10:38.00 | Gnea | superlinux: what iptables rule are you using? |
| 10:38.03 | sharpy | Gnea, so instead of localhost it would be something like: /home/sharp/webpage.htm ? |
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| 10:38.25 | MatBoy | streuner, in xmms I see a 1.2.10 version :S |
| 10:38.26 | Gnea | sharpy: sec.. |
| 10:38.29 | superlinux | target prot opt source destination |
| 10:38.29 | superlinux | REDIRECT tcp -- 192.168.101.0/24 anywhere tcp dpt:www redir ports 8080 |
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| 10:38.42 | superlinux | this is from iptabels -L -t nat |
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| 10:38.54 | sharpy | superlinux, you lost me there. :-) |
| 10:39.01 | Gnea | superlinux: ooooh.... |
| 10:39.27 | superlinux | this is tarnsparent proxy |
| 10:39.39 | Gnea | superlinux: what is your ip? 192.168.101.1? |
| 10:39.47 | superlinux | no that's the internal one |
| 10:40.00 | Gnea | on your linux box? |
| 10:40.09 | superlinux | the server has no security yet cos it's on testing |
| 10:40.13 | superlinux | yes |
| 10:40.22 | superlinux | on your linux box |
| 10:40.24 | Gnea | try this |
| 10:40.32 | sharpy | superlinux, transparent meaning that no one can go and change the proxies back to what they were in Firefox? |
| 10:41.08 | gunixu | howdy all, i've just compiled 2.4.32<kernel> and am using grub to boot. However when i boot i receive the following error; ds: no socket drivers loaded, VFS: cannot open root device "" or 03:02, please append a correct boot option "root=" boot option, kernel panic: VFS: unable mount root fs on 03:02. However i've used the correct /root mount point and am using exactly the same grug.conf setup as my old kernel was using. |
| 10:41.09 | superlinux | means no need for the customer to ask you abt the ip of your proxy machine |
| 10:41.11 | Gnea | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.101.0/255.255.255.0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.101.1:3128 |
| 10:41.16 | sharpy | superlinux, i think i like this transparent proxy better... my kids are very Internet smart. |
| 10:41.40 | gunixu | any ideas ? |
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| 10:42.05 | superlinux | wait |
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| 10:42.19 | sharpy | who knows... they might be able to disable the webrowser proxies back to normal surfing. |
| 10:42.22 | Phated | Woo, spying on your kids. |
| 10:42.22 | Gnea | sharpy: yeah, that'd do it - it wouldn't matter what they set the proxy to, it would *always* hit squid first no matter what :) |
| 10:42.59 | sharpy | Gnea, i think i need to learn Iptables too. :-) |
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| 10:43.29 | Gnea | sharpy: iptables is the shit |
| 10:43.33 | Gnea | !iptables |
| 10:43.33 | dpkg | i heard iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 10:44.05 | apenguinlinux | streuner, hay its showing me that at what time file was stored in my Debian /CD.. i am asking that when pkg i have install (what time ) and when i have removed |
| 10:44.34 | sharpy | Gnea, hmm.. in the above command you gave to superlinux, why to port 3128? i thought it was 8080? |
| 10:44.45 | Gnea | errr |
| 10:44.47 | Phated | 3128 is default for squid. |
| 10:44.51 | Gnea | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.101.0/255.255.255.0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.101.1:8080 |
| 10:44.54 | Gnea | yeah |
| 10:45.08 | Gnea | sharpy: silly me, i've kept it at 3128 for years now :) |
| 10:45.31 | Gnea | superlinux: did you catch that? |
| 10:46.13 | superlinux | batata~! |
| 10:46.19 | superlinux | nothing is working! |
| 10:46.29 | Gnea | ok |
| 10:46.39 | Gnea | go get something to eat or drink then come back and try again |
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| 10:46.54 | sharpy | lol |
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| 10:46.56 | Gnea | no need to break blood vessels over it :) |
| 10:47.21 | superlinux | Gnea, get batata! |
| 10:47.36 | Gnea | !info batata |
| 10:47.38 | sharpy | !tutorial iptables |
| 10:47.45 | Gnea | 03:47 <dpkg> Package 'batata' does not exist. |
| 10:47.46 | Gnea | lol |
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| 10:48.05 | sharpy | googling iptables tutorial... |
| 10:48.29 | cast | firehol i find alot cleaner than writing iptables rules :> |
| 10:49.00 | tadashi | debian de ? |
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| 10:49.10 | jethro | !de |
| 10:49.11 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 10:49.16 | mortal__ | !fi |
| 10:49.16 | dpkg | hmm... fi is Finland, or the end of an if block, or an abreviation for First-In....as in FIFO First In First Out |
| 10:49.19 | tadashi | thx |
| 10:49.33 | kspath | !tell tadashi about thx |
| 10:49.42 | mortal__ | !tell me about thx |
| 10:49.43 | kspath | tadashi: bitte |
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| 10:50.37 | kspath | So Fins start school at age 7? |
| 10:50.53 | MatBoy | streuner, do you have some more ideas about xmms.. enabeling the ALSA there and changing the config of it does not work at all |
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| 10:52.25 | streuner | MatBoy: did you disable ARTS in kcontrol? |
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| 10:53.02 | streuner | MatBoy: just start xmms as root and tell us what error you get |
| 10:53.13 | MatBoy | streuner, now you say... no... I have done that before... have to check it out !! |
| 10:53.19 | streuner | MatBoy: in xterm, gnome-terminal, aterm or whatever |
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| 10:53.35 | geko | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.ipw2100.devel/6610 |
| 10:53.45 | geko | i got exacly the same error |
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| 10:53.50 | geko | but with 2.6.15 |
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| 10:54.02 | apenguinlinux | hi back agaain |
| 10:54.02 | geko | and i dont get that line with "NULL" |
| 10:54.14 | k-man | what do i have to do to get glx working with x.org? |
| 10:54.18 | k-man | anything special? |
| 10:54.40 | js_ | k-man: have appropriate drivers and enable it in xorg.conf |
| 10:54.45 | c459s | guys, I dont quite understand the "network" option in interfaces. What kind of information is to be put here? |
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| 10:55.00 | streuner | !tell c459s about interfaces |
| 10:55.03 | gunixu | howdy all, i've just compiled 2.4.32<kernel> and am using grub to boot. However when i boot i receive the following error; ds: no socket drivers loaded, VFS: cannot open root device "" or 03:02, please append a correct boot option "root=" boot option, kernel panic: VFS: unable mount root fs on 03:02. However i've used the correct /root mount point and am using exactly the same grug.conf setup as my old kernel was using. |
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| 10:55.10 | k-man | js_, so if i am already using the nvidia drivers, is it just a config option i'm missing? |
| 10:55.12 | streuner | c459s: read examples there |
| 10:55.20 | sharpy | Gnea, hmm.. i restarted firefox but then my proxy server is refusing all sites now. I dont get it. |
| 10:55.24 | c459s | streuner, thanks |
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| 10:55.38 | sharpy | Gnea, very picky squid. |
| 10:55.39 | js_ | k-man: yeah, check /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_.. |
| 10:55.46 | k-man | ok, thanks |
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| 10:58.18 | Gnea | sharpy: what changed? |
| 10:58.25 | MatBoy | streuner, I can't find any arts :S |
| 10:58.42 | streuner | MatBoy: look for sounddaemon or such |
| 10:58.45 | quitte | does resize_xfs work online? |
| 10:58.47 | streuner | soundsystem even |
| 10:59.11 | sharpy | Gnea, nothing.. it blocks everything. I am not sure why. I just copied your squidGuard.conf file and then : update-squidguard. |
| 10:59.15 | c459s | streuner: so if I for example have ip 213.111.80.18, then the network will be 213.111.80.0? |
| 10:59.33 | streuner | c459s: static? |
| 10:59.37 | c459s | streuner: yes |
| 10:59.51 | sharpy | Gnea, in the firefox field: i just put localhost: 8080 |
| 10:59.54 | streuner | c459s: there is an example too, IIRC |
| 10:59.57 | MatBoy | streuner, nothing to find... damn... I have to google again I think L() |
| 10:59.59 | MatBoy | :) |
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| 11:00.18 | streuner | MatBoy: try the latter hint, start xmms on cli as root |
| 11:00.27 | MatBoy | ok |
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| 11:01.15 | Gnea | sharpy: ok, make sure the /var/lib/squidguard/blacklists/ matches up |
| 11:01.25 | Gnea | sharpy: you may have renamed it to /var/lib/squidguard/db/ |
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| 11:01.59 | sharpy | Gnea, checking... |
| 11:02.08 | ge0x | hello |
| 11:02.12 | ge0x | need some help |
| 11:02.12 | gunixu | howdy all, i've just compiled 2.4.32<kernel> and am using grub to boot. However when i boot i receive the following error; ds: no socket drivers loaded, VFS: cannot open root device "" or 03:02, please append a correct boot option "root=" boot option, kernel panic: VFS: unable mount root fs on 03:02. However i've used the correct /root mount point and am using exactly the same grug.conf setup as my old kernel was using. If anyone could help that would be gr |
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| 11:03.08 | streuner | gunixu: grep INITRD /boot/<your_config> |
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| 11:04.19 | gunixu | streuner: where do you suggest i do that from ? use boot disk ? |
| 11:04.21 | c459s | streuner: well, the examples shows that 192.168.1.0 is used for network when 192.168.1.40 is the ip adress. The manual says "Network adress" and nothing more, so I dont quite understand this option. If *.*.*.1 is gateway, will network always be *.*.*.0, or does it not matter what the gateway is, it will default to 0 anyways? |
| 11:04.46 | sharpy | Gnea, ok.. it's now /var/lib/squidguard/blacklists... checking again to make sure. |
| 11:04.58 | MatBoy | streuner, Mhhh ok... CD is working :SD |
| 11:05.00 | MatBoy | LD |
| 11:05.02 | MatBoy | damn |
| 11:05.04 | MatBoy | :D |
| 11:05.05 | streuner | gunixu: whereever your .config is... |
| 11:05.34 | MatBoy | now the MP3 :) |
| 11:05.38 | ge0x | wen i install a new debian, whit netinstall bootcd, 3.1 r1 sarge on my new pc, on the networkinstall hee say 2% and thats is |
| 11:05.38 | ge0x | , hey hanging on "e1000 intel gigabitnetworkcontroller" |
| 11:06.00 | streuner | c459s: how are you connect to inet? |
| 11:06.20 | streuner | c459s: using a hardware-router? |
| 11:06.25 | c459s | yeah |
| 11:06.30 | streuner | c459s: DHCP? |
| 11:06.32 | MatBoy | streuner, I think that the MP3 module is not loaded |
| 11:06.38 | streuner | nah |
| 11:06.43 | MatBoy | it's not with the input-plugins |
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| 11:06.48 | streuner | MatBoy: show us the error |
| 11:06.52 | c459s | streuner: hardware router and I got static ip. |
| 11:07.03 | MatBoy | streuner, I have to check, but nothing directly from xmms |
| 11:07.08 | streuner | c459s: did you disable DHCP? |
| 11:07.14 | c459s | no, there is no dhcp available. |
| 11:07.15 | MatBoy | streuner, It just don't play the file |
| 11:07.41 | streuner | c459s: ok, put the IP of your hardware-router as gateway into interfaces |
| 11:08.08 | Gnea | sharpy: any luck? |
| 11:08.10 | streuner | !paste |
| 11:08.11 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 11:08.35 | sharpy | Gnea, no.. it still blocks everything. Hmm.. could it be my squid.conf file? |
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| 11:09.53 | streuner | c459s: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2432 |
| 11:10.01 | Gnea | sharpy: i doubt it... you restarted squid? |
| 11:10.12 | sharpy | restarting again.. :-) |
| 11:10.20 | Gnea | sharpy: and what did you do for iptables? |
| 11:10.33 | sharpy | Gnea, nothing.. i am still learning iptables. |
| 11:10.39 | streuner | c459s: use the IP (hardware-router) whatever the IP is of your hardware-router, but mostly they use 192.168.1.1 |
| 11:10.40 | Gnea | oh ok |
| 11:10.43 | soulfreshner | I want to install the latest version of python but the apt-package is not very up to date |
| 11:10.47 | c459s | streuner: thanks. |
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| 11:11.09 | soulfreshner | I don't know debian very well, but I would think that maybe it is just an older distro |
| 11:11.22 | Gnea | soulfreshner: what branch are you using? |
| 11:11.35 | streuner | c459s: after you are finish to edit interfaces, run ifdown -a, ifup -a |
| 11:11.52 | Korthrun | soulfreshner:what debian calls "stable" should read "ancient" but of course there are no guarantees that the "unstable" will work. Though I've had little issues |
| 11:12.04 | streuner | c459s: to get the IP of your hardware-router run 'route -n' |
| 11:12.09 | soulfreshner | now - do I delete the package and compile from source? |
| 11:12.10 | gunixu | streuner: what is that ment to do ? |
| 11:12.24 | soulfreshner | Korthrun: yep - ancient is the word |
| 11:12.29 | petemc | no its not |
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| 11:12.34 | soulfreshner | Gnea: I think it is sarge |
| 11:12.39 | sharpy | Gnea, still refusing all sites. Odd. I did follow through. :-) It should allow localhost to 8080 |
| 11:13.19 | ge0x | wen i install a new debian, whit netinstall bootcd, 3.1 r1 sarge on my new pc, on the networkinstall hee say 2% and thats is |
| 11:13.19 | ge0x | , hey hanging on "e1000 intel gigabitnetworkcontroller" |
| 11:13.34 | streuner | !tell lematou about ask |
| 11:13.38 | ge0x | how do i fix this |
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| 11:13.59 | petemc | ge0x: try using a 2.6 kernel to install with |
| 11:14.06 | streuner | lematou: ask first please, if you going to /msg somebody first |
| 11:14.12 | streuner | s/first/ / |
| 11:14.23 | RvGaTe | Im new to this "compile your own package" thing, after downloading and untar, when doing a "make", does it store anything into your system, or do the changes stay in that directory? |
| 11:14.40 | gunixu | streuner: what is grep INITRD /location/conf ment to do ? |
| 11:15.16 | petemc | RvGaTe: it shouldnt do anything until make install - you're better off using debian packages if possible tho |
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| 11:15.30 | ge0x | petemc |
| 11:15.32 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:15.33 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 11:15.34 | ge0x | pm plaese |
| 11:15.36 | streuner | gunixu: it shows you, are you using INITRD of not, many people just don't make an initrd and have it enabled in custom kernels... |
| 11:15.39 | Korthrun | Does anyone have a clue as to what port 40995 is used for in debian. netstat just shows a "-" for the pid of what is LISTENing on the port |
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| 11:15.48 | RvGaTe | petemc: thats the thing, i cant, its not listed (used the website search), thx |
| 11:15.54 | tarzeau | Korthrun: what says /etc/services ? |
| 11:15.59 | petemc | RvGaTe: what is it? |
| 11:16.00 | resident | does debian have nice workstation desktop ? |
| 11:16.01 | gunixu | streuner: it gave me no response.. just whent back to command line. |
| 11:16.09 | tarzeau | resident: yes |
| 11:16.12 | tarzeau | resident: more than all others. |
| 11:16.13 | RvGaTe | petemc: psybnc |
| 11:16.15 | resident | good |
| 11:16.16 | petemc | Korthrun: lsof -i :40995 |
| 11:16.22 | streuner | gunixu: well, that makes a lot harder then |
| 11:16.31 | resident | so if i'll install debian i'll basicly have it ? |
| 11:16.32 | Korthrun | tarzeau:grep 40995 /etc/services shows nothing, neither does that lso petemc |
| 11:16.34 | streuner | gunixu: do you use SCSI? |
| 11:16.43 | tarzeau | Korthrun: there's more up to date versions of services in the internet? |
| 11:16.44 | Korthrun | sad to say I did both already |
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| 11:17.04 | apenguinlinux | how can i start my service by default for example that i want that when my system will boot ssh and mysql will start automatically ???? |
| 11:17.06 | Gnea | sharpy: can you open another xterm, become root and tail -f /var/log/squid/squidGuard.log ? |
| 11:17.20 | petemc | apenguinlinux: that should be the default when you install those packages |
| 11:17.20 | Korthrun | tarzeau:I've put some hours in with google and yahoo both trying to find out...it only mentions something with redhat |
| 11:17.20 | streuner | gunixu: also make sure you have those modules compiled into kernel which are important to use the filesystem and IDE/SCSI system |
| 11:17.29 | sharpy | Gnea, okies.. |
| 11:18.06 | gunixu | streuner: i don't know what one's it requires, as it doesn't tell me anything other then what i pasted above. |
| 11:18.30 | streuner | gunixu: ok, just use an official kernel then |
| 11:18.57 | gunixu | hmm, ok. |
| 11:18.58 | sharpy | Gnea, here ya go: http://pastebin.com/682721 |
| 11:18.59 | tarzeau | Korthrun: there is one official place to get the services file |
| 11:19.06 | tarzeau | Korthrun: but i'm not where i have it, i'm on the run |
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| 11:19.12 | Korthrun | tarzeau:ok np |
| 11:19.13 | gunixu | streuner: do you know of any good tutorial sites ? |
| 11:19.20 | tarzeau | Korthrun: either find it yourself or ask me in half an hour again |
| 11:19.32 | streuner | gunixu: /msg dpkg kp |
| 11:19.34 | Korthrun | ill look around, but I may ask :p |
| 11:19.46 | streuner | gunixu: read KERNEL-HOWTO at newbiedoc.sf.net |
| 11:20.09 | apenguinlinux | petemc, no if i want that ssh will be by deafault then how will i do it ??? |
| 11:20.14 | streuner | gunixu: but that shows you HOW to compile kernels (debian way) - nothing more... |
| 11:20.25 | Gnea | sharpy: aaah - what's on line 61 of squidGuard.conf? |
| 11:20.28 | petemc | apenguinlinux: the default is to run at boot |
| 11:20.45 | sharpy | Gnea, a very loong comannd.. ill paste it. |
| 11:20.54 | Gnea | ok |
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| 11:21.23 | soulfreshner | hey, guys - why can't lematou be heard in the channel? he asked me to ask, aparently he gets an error |
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| 11:21.33 | apenguinlinux | petemc, yes when i bppt my system then it will start |
| 11:21.47 | streuner | soulfreshner: no idea, but he asked me too |
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| 11:22.23 | kspath | !test |
| 11:22.24 | dpkg | No, kspath, you're not online any more. |
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| 11:22.50 | sharpy | Gnea, http://pastebin.com/682734 |
| 11:23.21 | streuner | soulfreshner: well, he is banned |
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| 11:23.33 | soulfreshner | haha |
| 11:23.53 | soulfreshner | ...ok well that explains it - is his ip banned? |
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| 11:24.05 | streuner | !ops can someone remove the ban for u-strasbg.fr? |
| 11:24.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: can someone remove the ban for u-strasbg.fr |
| 11:24.33 | streuner | <lematou> ...banned ? What for ? :D That's the first time I'm here |
| 11:24.36 | Gnea | sharpy: hrm, that should be 2 lines... try opening it with vim and type this right away: :61 <-- that will take you to line 61 |
| 11:25.01 | streuner | lematou] (i=meow@gauvain.u-strasbg.fr) : *Unknown* |
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| 11:25.37 | streuner | soulfreshner: no, not only his IP, whole uni strasbourg is banned |
| 11:26.03 | Ronin | streuner: go big or stay home i say ;) |
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| 11:26.40 | Ronin | Shadowcat: your no fun |
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| 11:27.34 | sharpy | Gnea, when i typed :61 it took me straight to this: %u |
| 11:27.35 | denisbr | Hello |
| 11:27.43 | denisbr | I can't access the gmail homepage using epiphany |
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| 11:28.16 | sharpy | Gnea, should that "%u" be part of line 60 ? |
| 11:28.29 | Gnea | sharpy: aaah - looks like you accidentally hit enter at some point - yeah, it should be |
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| 11:28.53 | sharpy | Gnea, okies.. fixing it :-) |
| 11:28.57 | atsi | hi |
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| 11:29.38 | emergo | trying to dist-upgrade but get an error on udev line: 89 /lib/udeb/write_net_rules |
| 11:30.07 | sharpy | Gnea, what about line 63? should it be just: # NOT #} |
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| 11:30.27 | Freedo | how do I disable an tunnel connection on my server? are used to play wow if that helps you guys:) |
| 11:30.33 | apenguinlinux | petemc, i solve it ? |
| 11:30.39 | petemc | apenguinlinux: whats to solve? |
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| 11:30.52 | Gnea | sharpy: no, because that's the closing clause for the 'adult' destination, which is all commented out by default |
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| 11:31.09 | streuner | !fr |
| 11:31.09 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 11:31.11 | sharpy | Gnea, k |
| 11:31.35 | apenguinlinux | petemc, it wil be useing update-rc.d |
| 11:31.37 | Gnea | sharpy: that might fix it.. :) |
| 11:31.43 | tarzeau | streuner: pas du tout |
| 11:31.51 | sharpy | Gnea, trying it now.. |
| 11:32.12 | petemc | apenguinlinux: ive no idea what you're talking about - update-rc.d ssh defaults - but you shouldnt need to |
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| 11:33.05 | emergo | where can I find the prober name for sources list amd64 unstable ? |
| 11:33.09 | Tarantulafudge | is tux available for installation? |
| 11:33.18 | jm_ | emergo: /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 11:33.20 | Tarantulafudge | I can't seem to find it, if it is |
| 11:34.00 | streuner | tarzeau: sûrement |
| 11:34.10 | apenguinlinux | petemc, ok |
| 11:34.36 | sharpy | Gnea, http://pastebin.com/682756 <--this is after fixing the typo in squidGuard.conf... It still blocks all sites. |
| 11:34.41 | Freedo | how do I disable an tunnel connection on my server? |
| 11:34.42 | emergo | jm_: TY |
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| 11:34.46 | Studiosus | hi,all. got this problem: f1 key not functional in gnome desktop, although functional in console. also when I sent f1 to gnome with xvkbd it behaves properly. so anyone can suggest source of problem? |
| 11:34.49 | jm_ | emergo: no worries |
| 11:35.15 | tarzeau | Studiosus: x7? |
| 11:35.29 | Gnea | sharpy: what do you have listed in the acl { default { } } section? |
| 11:35.32 | Tarantulafudge | anyone? |
| 11:35.34 | MatBoy | streuner, I have solved it |
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| 11:35.37 | tarzeau | !anyone |
| 11:35.38 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 11:35.54 | tarzeau | Tarantulafudge: what's tux? apt-cache search tux |
| 11:35.56 | MatBoy | the MP3 was emty :p and after removing the mad after first installing it... it worked finally :D |
| 11:36.07 | Tarantulafudge | tarzeau: its a kernel webserver |
| 11:36.23 | tarzeau | Tarantulafudge: linux kernel? you can make your own kernel with it |
| 11:36.28 | weissi | !tux |
| 11:36.28 | dpkg | methinks tux is a like, a cute cuddly penguin. Worship him. the logo of Linux, or the linux logo because once, while on vacation in the southern hemisphere, Linus Torvalds was bitten on the hand by a penguin! http://www.gnomemeeting.org/images/Carlos-PenguinEkiga.png |
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| 11:37.01 | Tarantulafudge | hmm |
| 11:37.14 | sharpy | Gnea, http://pastebin.com/682764 |
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| 11:37.42 | Shadowcat | eeek azeem's awake |
| 11:37.42 | restemo | Hello.. Nobody knows php::session and cgi::lite... I got a big problem with... |
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| 11:37.45 | Tarantulafudge | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUX_web_server |
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| 11:38.43 | denisbr | Anybody acess the gmail using epiphany? |
| 11:38.48 | tarzeau | no |
| 11:38.55 | tarzeau | we all use dillo and links2 -g |
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| 11:39.16 | azeem | tarzeau: no we don't |
| 11:39.19 | Studiosus | no, 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 |
| 11:39.27 | tarzeau | azeem: but the question asked for a !ask |
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| 11:39.49 | azeem | tarzeau: then explain the problem with question please, instead of giving stupid answers |
| 11:40.07 | streuner_ | azeem: uni strasbourg is banned, can you remove the ban? |
| 11:40.16 | azeem | streuner_: I did |
| 11:40.25 | streuner_ | ah thanks |
| 11:40.30 | Gnea | sharpy: that looks right... try restarting firefox |
| 11:40.33 | tarzeau | denisbr: /msg dpkg ask |
| 11:40.39 | sharpy | Gnea, k |
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| 11:40.57 | streuner | !test |
| 11:40.57 | dpkg | No, streuner, you're not online any more. |
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| 11:43.38 | sharpy | Gnea, sorry.. same thing. U think it might be the loooong squid.conf file? I actually did not change anything becuase as i scrolled down.. superlinux's commands were already there. |
| 11:43.49 | Sonderblade | how do you get the version of a package you have installed? |
| 11:43.58 | tarzeau | Sonderblade: dpkg -l pkg |
| 11:44.11 | anon123 | hi kann mir jamand bei der installation von Debian helfen, habe ein Problem mit der Netzwerkkarte! |
| 11:44.16 | azeem | !de |
| 11:44.16 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 11:44.26 | Sonderblade | tarzeau: thanks |
| 11:44.38 | tarzeau | Sonderblade: you might need COLUMNS=160 before dpkg |
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| 11:44.42 | anon123 | dpkg: thanks! |
| 11:44.42 | dpkg | bitte, anon123 |
| 11:44.43 | denisbr | tarzeau: my question is : I can't access the gmail home page using the Epiphany browser, I can using firefox our mozilla, more using epiphany not |
| 11:44.47 | tarzeau | Sonderblade: it's really annoying, even when redirected |
| 11:44.57 | Tarantulafudge | Does apache block libssl? |
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| 11:45.10 | MatBoy | How much VGA ram should KDE need to run normally ? |
| 11:45.12 | Gnea | sharpy: i highly doubt it, but i could be wrong |
| 11:45.14 | Studiosus | hi,all. got this problem: f1 key not functional in gnome desktop, although functional in console. also when I sent f1 to gnome with xvkbd it behaves properly. so anyone can suggest source of problem? X version is 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5 and gnome is 2.12.3. Moreover, f1 was functional earlier it's just started yersturday. Maybe it's some silly thing happening? :) |
| 11:45.14 | tarzeau | denisbr: maybe epiphany has some bug? checked BTS yet? |
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| 11:45.31 | tarzeau | MatBoy: vga ram is good for resolution and colors |
| 11:45.40 | denisbr | tarzeau: not, where I see this? |
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| 11:45.45 | tarzeau | MatBoy: KDE should be usable with 800x600, 256 colors |
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| 11:45.53 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 11:45.54 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 11:46.15 | MatBoy | tarzeau, But 16MB should be OK isn't it ? |
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| 11:46.25 | tarzeau | MatBoy: more than enough |
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| 11:46.51 | sharpy | Gnea, plus the fact that I did not issue any iptables command yet. |
| 11:46.55 | tarzeau | MatBoy: even 512kb memory is enough for 800x600x256 |
| 11:47.01 | MatBoy | tarzeau, Also for 1280x1024 with a Firefox in it ? |
| 11:47.09 | EmleyMoor | Are there any recommendations/recommended "avoid" for wireless desktop kit (keyboard and trackball/glidepoint) |
| 11:47.10 | tarzeau | MatBoy: yes |
| 11:47.16 | MatBoy | tarzeau, OK, that could not be the problem than |
| 11:47.17 | tarzeau | MatBoy: how much normal memory do you have? |
| 11:47.23 | Korthrun | tarzeau:happen to have that url handy? I had a server kernel panick and haven't had a chance to look myself |
| 11:47.26 | tarzeau | MatBoy: no video memory is not your problem |
| 11:47.36 | MatBoy | I have a 600LE with 256MB, and a G200 of Matrox with 32MB |
| 11:47.38 | Gnea | sharpy: as long as firefox is pointed to it for proxy service it should be fine... not even worried about transparency at this point |
| 11:47.48 | Gnea | sharpy: might want to paste the squid.conf |
| 11:47.53 | MatBoy | 600LE=6600LE |
| 11:48.04 | tarzeau | Korthrun: i forgot your question and my internet link is slow for backlog scrolling |
| 11:48.05 | luke42 | hi, anyone got any experience of getting custom video hardware to work under X? |
| 11:48.17 | sharpy | Gnea, omigod.. are u serious? |
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| 11:48.30 | Korthrun | tarzeau:you had mentioned there was updated info for /etc/services somehwer online |
| 11:48.38 | tarzeau | Korthrun: ahhh ok let me check it now |
| 11:48.46 | MatBoy | tarzeau, Do you know a problem with black screens when moving to a Matrox card in a Xinerama-setup ? |
| 11:48.50 | Gnea | sharpy: got a better idea? :) |
| 11:48.51 | sharpy | Gnea, is there a way to send it to u? nv.. i'll paste it :-) |
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| 11:49.02 | Gnea | lol |
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| 11:49.26 | arunkumaran | .is celeron 330 Mhz/320 MB ram n 5 gb hdd sufficient for a basic debian installation |
| 11:49.32 | petemc | arunkumaran: yes |
| 11:49.38 | tarzeau | Korthrun: ftp.iana.org |
| 11:49.45 | Gnea | arunkumaran: yup |
| 11:49.46 | tarzeau | MatBoy: nope |
| 11:49.49 | arunkumaran | thanx |
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| 11:49.57 | tarzeau | arunkumaran: yes |
| 11:50.16 | MatBoy | tarzeau, OK, than it's a unknown problem :D |
| 11:50.23 | kspath | arunkumaran: Did you mean to say thanks? |
| 11:50.35 | arunkumaran | yep |
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| 11:50.41 | Korthrun | tarzeau:thanks, I'll poke around there |
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| 11:51.49 | tarzeau | Korthrun: have fun |
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| 11:51.53 | luke42 | can anyone point me to where I can get help setting up a specialist video adapter |
| 11:52.13 | Gnea | luke42: specialist? |
| 11:52.14 | sharpy | Gnea, apt-get install gedit is my friend. http://pastebin.com/682784 |
| 11:52.21 | tarzeau | luke42: what video adapter is that? lspci? |
| 11:52.33 | Gnea | sharpy: nice! |
| 11:52.36 | tarzeau | luke42: can i have the video rom? apt-get install ree, ree, and send me the *.rom ? |
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| 11:53.23 | luke42 | Gnea: I'm trying to recycle a shop display system manufactured by kaliedoscope, it's all off-the shelf components except the composite video output card which is manufactured by kaleidoscope! |
| 11:53.31 | sharpy | Gnea, :-p |
| 11:54.01 | Tarantulafudge | If I use aptitude -t unstable install libssl0.9.8, will it be downgraded when I upgrade my system? |
| 11:54.01 | jm_ | you could simply use any graphic card with composite TV out |
| 11:54.28 | Korthrun | tarzeau:joy 40995 isn't in ftp://ftp.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers, ill go cry now :p |
| 11:54.45 | luke42 | I'm trying not to distroy the windows install on the box, I'm using a run from disk debian variant and a usb flash drive. |
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| 11:55.06 | nvz | Korthrun: haha |
| 11:55.17 | tarzeau | Korthrun: then someone runs, something on it |
| 11:55.44 | Korthrun | tarzeau: yes, I'm trying to find out what it is. The client doesn't know and netstat/lsof show no PID for it |
| 11:55.57 | petemc | Korthrun: running those commands as root? |
| 11:56.07 | Korthrun | tarzeau:I can connect to it, but as soon as I pass data the connection drops |
| 11:56.09 | Korthrun | petemc: yes |
| 11:56.25 | petemc | Korthrun: tried fuser? |
| 11:56.35 | Korthrun | petemc:no, I'll fireup man fuser, thanks |
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| 11:56.46 | petemc | fuser -n tcp <portno> |
| 11:57.19 | Korthrun | petemc:marvelous, thanks |
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| 11:58.05 | Korthrun | petemc:doh, no info at all |
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| 11:59.27 | petemc | Korthrun: does iptraf show any traffic on it? |
| 11:59.45 | Korthrun | petemc:now that is a question that I should have asked myself hours ago |
| 11:59.47 | Korthrun | petemc: thanks |
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| 12:02.31 | nightcon | 2 |
| 12:02.33 | luke42 | tarzeau: lspci coming up |
| 12:02.37 | luke42 | 0000:00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 12:02.37 | luke42 | 0000:00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: PLX Technology, Inc. PCI <-> IOBus Bridge Hot Swap (rev 01) |
| 12:02.44 | Gnea | sharpy: http://pastebin.com/682793 |
| 12:03.13 | rclark | Can anyone tell me if there is there a USB webcam that works well with Debian please? I know about the issues (stubborn & MSowned hardware vendors) but is there a model that will stream with AMSN please as my little neices and nephew would love to confrence with their family. Thanks. |
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| 12:03.35 | pingouin | rclark: grab an phillips one |
| 12:03.41 | petemc | rclark: i got a creative thing to work a while back - if linux supports it, debian will |
| 12:04.00 | jm_ | (some) Creative webcams work, that much I know |
| 12:04.00 | luke42 | tarzeau: I don't have ree on the distro and it's an off-line machine! |
| 12:04.01 | Gnea | sharpy: you'll want to make sure to change the DNS and the ACL's to match your configuration |
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| 12:04.03 | sharpy | Gnea, still using 3128? shall i edit it to 8080? |
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| 12:04.39 | EmleyMoor | How do I set "snd" to record from my second sound card? (ALSA) |
| 12:04.41 | Gnea | sharpy: you can do whatever you want with it :) |
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| 12:04.49 | pingouin | rclark: http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/ you'll find some clue about philips supported webcam by the kernel and so..by debian |
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| 12:05.06 | sharpy | Gnea, i just want it to work. :-) |
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| 12:05.15 | Gnea | sharpy: hehe :) |
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| 12:06.26 | sharpy | Gnea, if i am using a router (since my husband, my kids and I) all have computers... can i use the nameserver for the router: 192.168.0.1 ? |
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| 12:06.51 | Gnea | sharpy: change it if you like - the DNS, visible_hostname and other IP information (especially for the ACLs) will need to be altered - might want to change the ICP password as well |
| 12:06.58 | Gnea | sharpy: that should work just fine :) |
| 12:07.19 | sharpy | Gnea, okies... |
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| 12:07.57 | jm_ | still working on proxies? sheehs, DG is so much simpler, or Privoxy |
| 12:08.45 | Gnea | sharpy: sorry, cache manager password, not icp password |
| 12:09.05 | jethro | squid ain't that hard if you can read the comments in the configuration file |
| 12:09.11 | rclark | pingouin: thanks. |
| 12:09.12 | Gnea | jm_: do you enjoy pie? |
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| 12:09.16 | sharpy | Gnea, cache manager password? i dont think i have one.. ? |
| 12:09.18 | jethro | it's not as if it weren't documented at all |
| 12:09.28 | Gnea | sharpy: oh it's there, scroll down :) |
| 12:09.55 | pingouin | rclark: thanks luc saillard, and kernel mainteners ;) |
| 12:10.04 | sharpy | Gnea, no i mean .. i dont have a password set up. |
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| 12:10.33 | Gnea | sharpy: right - it's under the Cache Manager section |
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| 12:10.44 | Gnea | sharpy: line 234 |
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| 12:11.35 | c459s | guys, if netmask is 255.255.255.128, will broadcast then always be *.127, or can it still be *.255? |
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| 12:11.38 | sharpy | Gnea, i am sorry but what does this password do? once i change it to something i can remember and what it does. |
| 12:11.42 | EmleyMoor | Can someone please advise me how to make snd record from my second sound card? |
| 12:11.43 | Gnea | sharpy: gah... there's so much stuff there i had forgotten... like append_domain should probably be commented out |
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| 12:12.02 | simic | hello guys, i need a quick tip. how can i join several pdf documents under linux? |
| 12:12.11 | Gnea | sharpy: it's for logging into the cache manager, which i have forgotten how to do (i set it up like 6 years ago heh) |
| 12:12.28 | Gnea | EmleyMoor: audacity |
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| 12:12.37 | sharpy | Gnea, "deny_info ACCESS_DENIED_YOU_WORTHLESS_PANSY you_suck" <---very nice. |
| 12:12.37 | cahoot | simic: try pdftk |
| 12:12.43 | Gnea | :) |
| 12:13.00 | EmleyMoor | I will try audacity - see if it does any good for me |
| 12:13.26 | cahoot | EmleyMoor: no alsa? |
| 12:14.08 | sharpy | Gnea, okies.. changed the password and commented the other domain line. Shall I save the file and update-squidGuard? |
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| 12:15.12 | Gnea | sharpy: did you edit your ACLs? |
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| 12:15.37 | Gnea | sharpy: local_net and outer_net are the ones to do |
| 12:15.56 | berzerka | can sed directly operate on a file? i want to remove trailing carriage returns with sed -e 's/\r$//'. right now im doing it this way: sed -e 's/\r$//' file > file.new ; mv file.new file. but i would like to operate directly on the files (in order to automate the process). |
| 12:16.06 | jethro | berzerka: man sed /-i |
| 12:16.11 | jm_ | berzerka: yes |
| 12:16.12 | Gnea | sharpy: but you're behind a router, so local_net should do just fine - comment out any line that has to do with outer_net |
| 12:16.17 | berzerka | jethro: thx |
| 12:16.21 | sharpy | Gnea, lemmee see here... |
| 12:16.29 | jethro | berzerka: this will only work with GNU sed though |
| 12:16.35 | kspath | !tell berzerka about thx |
| 12:17.04 | berzerka | kspath: ;) will kepp it in mind.. |
| 12:17.14 | berzerka | s/kepp/keep/ :) |
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| 12:17.41 | EmleyMoor | I can't see how to get control of the recording level in audacity |
| 12:17.48 | sharpy | Gnea, is outer_net my actual comcast IP ? not the routers.. |
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| 12:18.12 | sharpy | Gnea, oh nv.. i didnt read your previous line. |
| 12:18.27 | luke42 | tarzeau: I've got those rom files from ree |
| 12:18.30 | Gnea | sharpy: it would be if that ip was directly tied to your computer :) |
| 12:18.47 | sharpy | Gnea, got it. okies... done. |
| 12:18.57 | Gnea | awesome, fire it up and see what happens |
| 12:19.26 | Gnea | EmleyMoor: you may need to mess with it a bit to get used to it |
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| 12:19.56 | EmleyMoor | I can't see what to mess with |
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| 12:20.33 | Gnea | check your mic levels, for starters |
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| 12:20.50 | Gnea | and check help->contents |
| 12:20.55 | tarzeau | luke42: debian? |
| 12:20.59 | sharpy | Gnea, if your squid.conf contained http_port to 3128 i should put that in firefox as well.. NOT 8080? |
| 12:21.04 | tarzeau | luke42: send them to gurkan@linuks.mine.nu |
| 12:21.20 | luke42 | mepis, it's a debian based run-from-cd job |
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| 12:21.34 | Gnea | sharpy: that is correct |
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| 12:22.14 | Gnea | !mepis |
| 12:22.14 | dpkg | methinks mepis is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system that uses KDE and includes NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. See http://www.mepis.org and/or visit #mepis and ask me about <Based On Debian> |
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| 12:22.56 | sharpy | Gnea, okies.. done. Hmm.. same thing as b4. I give up... lol We have the same exact files... |
| 12:23.00 | luke42 | dpkg, you'd be pretty accurate with that desciption |
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| 12:23.22 | Gnea | sharpy: perhaps something didn't paste right.... you sure you fixed that same line? |
| 12:23.43 | cahoot | luke42: it's a bot |
| 12:23.50 | Gnea | sharpy: try deleting that whole section |
| 12:23.51 | rage | Hey, is there are way to force wget to only get the first 100 bytes of a file? I've been staring at the man page for 10 minutes and found no option |
| 12:24.00 | sharpy | Gnea, what line are u referring to or what section? |
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| 12:24.24 | marcool | rage: can't you just hit [ctrl] + C after like 10 secs ? |
| 12:24.27 | Gnea | sharpy: the whole dest adult { } section |
| 12:24.37 | sharpy | Gnea, k |
| 12:24.39 | Gnea | sharpy: it's like 6 or 7 lines altogether |
| 12:24.41 | rage | marcool: na, I'm scripting something |
| 12:24.43 | Sonderblade | is there an easy way to get the package version of a deb and use it in a shell script? |
| 12:24.49 | Gnea | since it's commented out it's not even being used :) |
| 12:24.55 | jm_ | Sonderblade: yes |
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| 12:25.08 | marcool | rage: just kiddin, what about a bash script, with somthing like if (filesize >=100) then killall wget ? |
| 12:25.16 | marcool | rage: wouldn't that work ? |
| 12:25.22 | rage | mmm, that could work |
| 12:25.39 | EmleyMoor | X crashed while I was looking for what to do in audacity |
| 12:25.39 | Sonderblade | jm_: how? |
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| 12:25.40 | Gnea | Sonderblade: apt-cache show <packagename> | grep Version | awk '{print $2}' |
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| 12:25.49 | marcool | rage: yeah I think that could be done easily |
| 12:25.49 | jm_ | Sonderblade: man dpkg will list the switch |
| 12:25.53 | rage | I think I'll just manually make a http request |
| 12:26.02 | Sonderblade | Gnea: thanks |
| 12:26.15 | luke42 | tarzeau: files sent! |
| 12:26.22 | voltagex | I'm having trouble with java-package, it says there was no matcing plugin and exits -- this is using make-jpkg |
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| 12:26.51 | rage | I've got a tcp framework I can work with so I might as well just GET /file and stop reading the stream after the amount of bytes I need |
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| 12:27.21 | jm_ | you could even request just 100 bytes then |
| 12:27.41 | rage | Mmmm, good thinking |
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| 12:28.21 | jm_ | voltagex: man page will tell you which Java versions it supports |
| 12:28.22 | sharpy | Gnea, lines deleted. updated-squidGuard but same thing as b4. It's odd isn't it? |
| 12:28.41 | Gnea | sharpy: the log says the same thing? |
| 12:28.49 | EmleyMoor | It's recording far too quiet - how do I make it louder? |
| 12:29.02 | cahoot | EmleyMoor: use a mixer? |
| 12:29.04 | sharpy | Gnea, yes.. tail -f /var/log/squidguard says the same thing... no visible error. |
| 12:29.10 | Gnea | EmleyMoor: turn up the volume for the mic, turn on the mic boost |
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| 12:29.20 | voltagex | Sun Microsystems(TM) 1.4 and 1.5 Standard Edition <-- I'm using that |
| 12:29.22 | voltagex | 1.5 |
| 12:29.29 | Gnea | sharpy: alright, hold on... |
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| 12:29.35 | voltagex | ooops, 1.5_06 |
| 12:29.43 | voltagex | would that make a difference? |
| 12:29.43 | jm_ | there are several 1.5 versions, it says exactly which one it supports |
| 12:30.06 | EmleyMoor | Mic? Trying to record from line in |
| 12:30.19 | Gnea | so turn up the volume on that |
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| 12:30.41 | EmleyMoor | It's full blast! audacity is under-recording |
| 12:31.07 | EmleyMoor | Adjusting it makes no difference |
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| 12:31.31 | Gnea | sharpy: http://pastebin.com/682828 |
| 12:31.32 | cahoot | EmleyMoor: alsa or oss? |
| 12:31.33 | voltagex | jm_: I think I'm using the right version... |
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| 12:31.44 | EmleyMoor | alsa, though could try oss mode if necessary |
| 12:31.46 | jm_ | voltagex: so which version are you using then? |
| 12:31.54 | ben | Is it possible to mount an NTFS drive as writeable under Debian? If so, how would I go about it? :) |
| 12:31.58 | EmleyMoor | I am used to recording in snd but can't see how to make it use my second card |
| 12:31.59 | cahoot | EmleyMoor: try arecord just for testing |
| 12:32.02 | Sonderblade | how do you do to install a certain version of a package? |
| 12:32.14 | voltagex | jm_: I did rename the .bin because the filename was too long as it downloaded from Sun (autogenerated url...) |
| 12:32.28 | EmleyMoor | cahoot: That won't help - it may work fine on testing but under-record when done for real |
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| 12:32.51 | jm_ | voltagex: where did you get it from? |
| 12:32.58 | voltagex | jm_: sun.com |
| 12:33.10 | jm_ | voltagex: well you'll have to be a lot more specific ;) |
| 12:33.16 | cahoot | EmleyMoor: OTOH ecasound does all you need - it can adjust the rec level (the -ea option) |
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| 12:34.04 | voltagex | jm_: I went and downloaded J2SE 1.5_06, the self extracting .bin (*not* RPM) for Linux |
| 12:34.04 | EmleyMoor | But there's no guarantee it will stay adjusted into audacity |
| 12:34.11 | nvz | EmleyMoor: line in is not amplified on most sound cards you zoof, and audacity has aplification effects |
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| 12:34.31 | EmleyMoor | nvz: How do I get at them? |
| 12:34.33 | nvz | use the mic if you want aplification |
| 12:34.45 | nvz | EmleyMoor: in the effects menu would be my guess |
| 12:35.08 | EmleyMoor | OK - so just record first then try that? Hmmm... will do one side |
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| 12:35.55 | nvz | if you refuse to use the amplified port on your soundcard you need some sort of preamp or something |
| 12:36.12 | voltagex | jm_: what else do you need to know? |
| 12:36.26 | EmleyMoor | Not "refuse" - need not to, as that isn't stereo |
| 12:36.56 | Serinity | !authentification |
| 12:37.03 | nvz | stereo is overrated in most cases the channels are mirrored anyhow |
| 12:37.04 | Serinity | hum |
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| 12:37.14 | aneltika2 | Hi! How can i make ls to list the seconds, too? So ls -l prints only the hours and the minutes. How can i make it to print seconds? |
| 12:37.22 | nvz | you can duplicate a channel pretty easily later |
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| 12:37.30 | EmleyMoor | nvz: Not when your job is to remaster a stereo record... still... that's a good point |
| 12:37.30 | Serinity | How can i get the bot tell me about the packages auth ? |
| 12:37.48 | sharpy | Gnea, ok.. reloaded squidGuard and now when I type sex.com i can see it BUT there is an add there where the proxy server is refusing connections. |
| 12:37.54 | tarzeau | aneltika2: use stat? |
| 12:38.02 | jm_ | voltagex: I don't think J2SE will work, you want JRE Standard Edition |
| 12:38.12 | sharpy | Gnea, so it was definitely the squidGuard.conf file. |
| 12:38.20 | apt-get | tuwaha , are you using xchat as root? |
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| 12:38.44 | aneltika2 | tarzeau: ok, thx, it works fine. |
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| 12:39.12 | EmleyMoor | I'm not sure this gives me the same level of control that snd did |
| 12:39.15 | wdamn | Hi, where is a default browser setted in debian? |
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| 12:39.20 | Gnea | sharpy: right on |
| 12:39.25 | sharpy | Gnea, great... it suddenly started to block everything again. Hmm. |
| 12:39.37 | Serinity | I'd like to avoid this: Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y |
| 12:39.43 | Gnea | sharpy: hrm.... try /etc/init.d/squid restart |
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| 12:39.55 | Gnea | Serinity: /topic |
| 12:40.03 | Serinity | thx Gnea |
| 12:40.15 | Gnea | "you're welcome" |
| 12:40.15 | jethro | wdamn: /etc/alternatives/www-browser iirc |
| 12:40.16 | jm_ | aneltika2: did you notice --full-time switch in the man page? |
| 12:40.17 | nvz | wdamn: man update-alternatives |
| 12:40.35 | Serinity | Gnea, Why double quoted ? |
| 12:40.42 | Gnea | Serinity: why thx? |
| 12:40.45 | Agrajag- | given two filenames, how can i see if they point to the same file? |
| 12:40.55 | Serinity | heh |
| 12:40.56 | Serinity | ok |
| 12:40.58 | Gnea | !thx |
| 12:40.58 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas, named after THX1138, Lucas' first movie. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. |
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| 12:41.07 | wdamn | jethro: nvz thanx |
| 12:41.11 | Gnea | :) |
| 12:41.13 | chrholck | anyone who has a clue why i can't use apt-setup, it just says, "Command not found"? I'm running an old 3.7 knoppix, is that why? |
| 12:41.19 | Serinity | allright, thanks then |
| 12:41.21 | Serinity | :P |
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| 12:41.28 | Gnea | !knoppix |
| 12:41.28 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. don't forget to ask me about <Based On Debian> |
| 12:41.38 | chrholck | pfft |
| 12:41.38 | chrholck | ty |
| 12:41.44 | sharpy | Gnea, http://pastebin.com/682844 |
| 12:41.56 | ben | !NTFS |
| 12:41.56 | dpkg | i heard ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 12:42.12 | ben | Aha! |
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| 12:42.13 | aneltika2 | jm_: no, however this is what i was need. I read through the manpage, but i wasn' t enough deep. |
| 12:42.33 | nvz | chrholck: you must be root to run that command its not in a non-root users path |
| 12:42.41 | ben | !cheers |
| 12:42.41 | dpkg | No Probs! |
| 12:42.45 | Gnea | sharpy: hehe, yeah, just search for 'outer_net' and comment out any lines that haven't been commented out yet and try restart again |
| 12:42.50 | jm_ | ben: read about it on ntfs-ng web page |
| 12:43.00 | sharpy | Gnea, okies |
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| 12:43.27 | chrholck | nvz, i am logged in as root. :) |
| 12:43.32 | ben | jm_: What/where exactly is ntfs-ng? |
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| 12:43.43 | jm_ | ben: google for "ntfs-ng home page" |
| 12:43.48 | ben | 'kay. |
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| 12:44.33 | SlayerXP | jm_: tsk, how unhelpful. why don't _you_ google for him and then just paste the URL? |
| 12:44.33 | nvz | chrholck: well guess what, there is no need for apt-setup on a live cd as the media is read-only and you cannot install applications anyhow unless its been hd-installed |
| 12:45.16 | jethro | is that a joke? |
| 12:45.23 | Gnea | nvz: now look here.... |
| 12:45.25 | Gnea | !based on debian |
| 12:45.25 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 12:45.54 | sharpy | Gnea, http://pastebin.com/682855 |
| 12:46.32 | jm_ | SlayerXP: and then paste it into his web browser? :) |
| 12:46.37 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.39 | azeem | blah |
| 12:46.51 | chrholck | it is hd-installed, and the problem is, that i can't apt-get update & upgrade .. :-/ |
| 12:46.52 | Gnea | sharpy: hrmmm.... switch 192.168.0.105/255.255.255.0 to 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 12:46.59 | Gnea | sharpy: the other warnings are normal |
| 12:47.02 | SlayerXP | jm_: no, paste it into _your_ web browser. print out the results, burn any relevant files to dvd, and then post the whole lot to him. |
| 12:47.06 | SlayerXP | jm_: you lazy hound. |
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| 12:47.40 | Ronin | sharpy: heh |
| 12:47.47 | Ronin | or even SlayerXP |
| 12:47.48 | voltagex | jm_: ntfs-ng? is that like captive? |
| 12:47.50 | Ronin | damn tab |
| 12:47.53 | Gnea | !tell chrholck about based on debian |
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| 12:48.02 | Gnea | chrholck: would you *please* read and *respect* that? |
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| 12:48.32 | theonly | hi |
| 12:48.35 | Gnea | chrholck: #knoppix can help you, we can't. end of discussion. |
| 12:48.40 | ootput | hi guys, i just created a program in c. it's segfaulting (coredumped) quite a bit, but it compiled fine. Does this usally imply that my program is taking up too much memory? |
| 12:48.44 | jm_ | voltagex: I don't think so - captive is using Windows' driver, isn't it? |
| 12:48.50 | nvz | chrholck: works good in debian ;) |
| 12:48.58 | chrholck | Gnea, i read it. But nvz actually tried to help me, so i think it would be respectless not to answer him, just because you don't think you can help me. |
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| 12:49.03 | Gnea | ootput: no it means your program is teh suck :) |
| 12:49.03 | sharpy | Gnea, k.. same message as b4 about squid.conf line 190: No cache_peer 'deny' <--is that ok? |
| 12:49.17 | SlayerXP | ootput: welcome to bash.org |
| 12:49.45 | ootput | Gnea: :( |
| 12:49.47 | theonly | i want to ask something .... why when i use adduser it tells "cant contact rpc portmapper" |
| 12:50.05 | chrholck | Gnea, and btw, there's probably a bigger chance that one of the 810 people in here is active and wants to help, than the 25 people in knoppix. |
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| 12:50.29 | voltagex | jm_: yes, I wasn't paying attention to the conversation |
| 12:50.30 | Gnea | sharpy: wow, i never noticed that before.. i get the same thing... doesn't look like an issue |
| 12:50.41 | ootput | Gnea: damn it. This code previously worked. I was rather drunk last night, and apparently I added a bit of code to optimize it |
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| 12:50.49 | sharpy | Gnea, okies.. restart firefox? |
| 12:50.52 | ootput | damn pale ale |
| 12:51.00 | voltagex | chrholck: there are #knoppix channels on other servers too, + google + mailing lists |
| 12:51.01 | Gnea | chrholck: please, respect the channel rules. |
| 12:51.09 | voltagex | + your local linux user group |
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| 12:51.17 | Gnea | nvz: you too |
| 12:51.28 | nvz | Gnea: eat me :) |
| 12:51.29 | Ronin | ootput: nno need to curse the beer :) |
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| 12:51.53 | Gnea | nvz: i'd rather eat ice cream! ;) |
| 12:51.55 | Serinity | Gnea, I did what dpkg told me to... didn't work, i get an "OK" but it still asks for verification |
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| 12:52.16 | Gnea | Serinity: i'm at a loss - what was the problem again? |
| 12:52.43 | Serinity | just setting the key for apt |
| 12:52.48 | Serinity | apt-key... |
| 12:53.01 | nvz | Gnea: I cant agree there.. it went from like 75degF the other day down to like 65degF yesturday afternoon to 30degF this morning.. so Ice Cream doesnt sound good right now |
| 12:53.29 | Serinity | i did something like this: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F && gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
| 12:53.44 | Serinity | maybe should do an update first |
| 12:54.12 | Serinity | oh, ok works now, sorry |
| 12:54.24 | nvz | though its still 75degF in Fort Pierce, FL but I am not gonna start making my way south until about this time next week |
| 12:54.37 | sharpy | Gnea, *sigh* umm.. we inspected squid.conf and I recently changed squidGuard.conf ...but it still refuses ALL sites. I wonder what it is... really. |
| 12:54.46 | Gnea | Serinity: cool |
| 12:55.21 | theonly | people any hints ?? |
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| 12:55.57 | Gnea | sharpy: hrmmm... and /var/lib/squidguard/blacklists/ exists and is owned by proxy.proxy? |
| 12:56.12 | voltagex | jm_: well, the linux-ntfs project has come a long way since I last looked! |
| 12:56.13 | sharpy | Gnea, checking... |
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| 12:56.42 | nvz | I need to figure out how to change the town on my phone so it brings up weather for down there.. being a completly different climate and chances for more severe weather than I am used to it would be a good thing to keep an eye on |
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| 12:57.25 | anez46 | t |
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| 12:57.38 | sharpy | Gnea, yes. |
| 12:57.44 | Gnea | nvz: understandable, however getting used to dry heat is not exactly an easy thing |
| 12:57.47 | zinx | tarzeau: ree doesn't work so swell for the BIOS rom :P |
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| 12:58.10 | Gnea | sharpy: and the files within are all owned right, too? |
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| 12:58.25 | nvz | Gnea: well they get hurricanes too.. which dont happen up in Pittsburgh |
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| 12:58.46 | kikoo_ | how to do a tarball from a file which contains files to be tar-ed with blanks |
| 12:58.46 | kikoo_ | for instance: a file which contains |
| 12:58.46 | kikoo_ | cat list.photo |
| 12:58.46 | kikoo_ | photo 001.jpg |
| 12:58.46 | kikoo_ | photo 002.jpg |
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| 12:58.51 | nvz | Gnea: not to mention I never had much of a shark problem in the steel city either |
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| 12:59.01 | Gnea | nvz: hurricanes in phoenix? surely your dealer delivers the best crack... |
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| 12:59.09 | Gnea | !tell anez46 about repeat |
| 12:59.13 | nvz | Gnea: I am going to Florida :P |
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| 12:59.26 | tarzeau | zinx: i know, that's because the bios rom is often lrager than 64k |
| 12:59.28 | Gnea | nvz: to all that humidity? :P |
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| 12:59.33 | tarzeau | zinx: and you need to switch memory banks |
| 12:59.38 | bit_doidao | hi all! anyone had problems in connecting a MACOSX in samba on debian sarge? |
| 12:59.45 | kikoo_ | how to do a tarball from a file which contains files to be tar-ed with blanks |
| 12:59.59 | jethro | kikoo_: escape the space |
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| 13:00.18 | nvz | Gnea: to do some work for about a month and get paid to stay in a hotel I dont have to pay for ... |
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| 13:00.38 | sharpy | Gnea, let's give it a day off to think about it. I think we explored a lot. And we did extensive troubleshooting. And we did not use iptables. |
| 13:00.50 | voltagex | I've got the philips 878 tv tuner support compiled into my kernel... how do I use it? |
| 13:00.53 | sharpy | Gnea, yes..all inside are owned by proxy.proxy. :-) |
| 13:00.56 | nvz | I've never spent more than like 2-3 nights in a hotel though.. this could get old real fast. |
| 13:01.05 | jm_ | kikko;man tar will tell you how to pass a file with filenames to be put in the archive |
| 13:01.09 | bit_doidao | how can i install the unstable samba even if i am in debian sarge? |
| 13:01.12 | jm_ | kikoo_ ^^^^ |
| 13:01.27 | kikoo_ | jethro: even thoug, it does not work |
| 13:01.30 | Gnea | sharpy: sounds fair, i don't think iptables is necessary at this time, but yeah, food and sleep are definately in demand :) |
| 13:02.02 | sharpy | Gnea, thanks a LOT for your help though. U are truly a wiz. |
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| 13:02.30 | Gnea | nvz: i spent a whole week at a ramada inn downtown here.. after the first few days it started getting old when teh cops had to bust down a door across the hall because someone had OD'd |
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| 13:02.42 | Celeste | hi |
| 13:02.44 | gilrandir | is there any way to list all the installed packages (including their status) like 'dpkg' does, without using dpkg (cause it cuts off the long names) and without having to parse the database files...? |
| 13:02.46 | sharpy | be back tomorrow around the same time or so... |
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| 13:02.46 | nvz | heh |
| 13:02.51 | Celeste | is there a native english speaking person around? |
| 13:03.01 | Gnea | sharpy: thanks, i hope that works out alright |
| 13:03.01 | jm_ | gilrandir: yes, and you can use dpkg for this too |
| 13:03.03 | jethro | gilrandir: dpkg --get-selections |
| 13:03.08 | azeem | Celeste: probably, yes |
| 13:03.19 | Celeste | azeem: you? |
| 13:03.24 | azeem | Celeste: no |
| 13:03.32 | azeem | Celeste: maybe you should just ask your question |
| 13:03.40 | Celeste | I would need a native speaker who can control this page for me, please |
| 13:03.41 | Celeste | http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/words/restaurant.htm |
| 13:03.56 | Celeste | is the sentences there are correct ... I need to know it for a test at school |
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| 13:04.09 | jm_ | someone should update the topic for the FAQ, new URL is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 13:04.12 | Gnea | Celeste: how much are you paying? :) |
| 13:04.20 | azeem | Celeste: do you think this is on-topic in this channel? |
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| 13:04.53 | bliss1_ | hey |
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| 13:05.15 | nvz | Gnea: I dont know how I am going to ammuse myself being down there for that long without my computer.. gonna have to go outside *gasp* |
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| 13:05.49 | Gnea | nvz: they're not hooking you up with a lappy? |
| 13:06.23 | bliss1_ | just build a new kernel i just want to install Perl and the whole base package. |
| 13:06.23 | bliss1_ | , |
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| 13:06.43 | nvz | Gnea: doubt it.. its really not needed. only notebook I will have will probably be 100% recycled paper or something |
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| 13:06.55 | nvz | gonna have to start writing again I guess. |
| 13:07.02 | bliss1_ | with a view to to installing CPAN on host |
| 13:07.29 | Gnea | nvz: better start talking to peeps there ;) |
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| 13:08.56 | nvz | I almost felt like writing the other day, after visiting the park and watching this girl sit on the bridge tossing flowers into the stream below.. she seemed upset.. nearly inspired me to write something .. then I got hung up on perspective |
| 13:09.37 | Gnea | lol |
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| 13:09.41 | nvz | I could interpret what I saw a number of different ways :P |
| 13:09.46 | Dantix | hi all!, I'm on sarge, I know there are a way to say apt-get to install a packet from testing without the need to touch sources.list, how can achieve that? |
| 13:10.01 | Gnea | yeah... helps to have it right then and there to keep a grasp on the main point |
| 13:10.28 | ootput | grr, silly program |
| 13:10.36 | Gnea | oh god, we are so fucked... the squidguard is completely robot-driven now, the maintainers got so lazy that they just handed it over to them |
| 13:10.39 | ootput | do any of you have a preferred debugger? (say ddd over gdb?) |
| 13:10.47 | jethro | Dantix: man apt-get /-t |
| 13:11.02 | nvz | well would have helped to ask her what was up too.. but she didnt want to talk I had to keep my distance just to observe. I sat downstream watching the flowers go by. |
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| 13:11.35 | Gnea | i would've made a short film :) |
| 13:11.48 | tarzeau | i'd like zfile |
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| 13:12.18 | Gnea | http://gnea.net/movies/car_what.mov |
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| 13:12.31 | dorel_ | whats the difference between the kernel-image and linux-image packages? |
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| 13:12.38 | Gnea | nothing special |
| 13:12.41 | tarzeau | dorel_: the name |
| 13:12.46 | dorel_ | ahh |
| 13:12.49 | tarzeau | dorel_: kernel-image is old, linux-image is new |
| 13:13.01 | dorel_ | so kernel-headers == linux-source? |
| 13:13.09 | nvz | normally you only run into snobby people walking their dogs in that park. I found it strange to see that teenager wallowing around down there so early in the afternoon |
| 13:13.11 | Gnea | dorel_: no |
| 13:13.13 | nvz | without a dog no less |
| 13:13.34 | Gnea | dorel_: headers are .h files, source is, .c, .h, assembler and a bunch of helpfiles and whatnot |
| 13:13.48 | dorel_ | Gnea: so if i want the whole deal i should install linux-kernel-2.6.16-1-686 linux-source-2.6.16 and kernel-headers-2.6.16? |
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| 13:14.09 | Gnea | dorel_: that is incorrect. what, exactly, is your goal? |
| 13:14.14 | bliss1_ | tarzeau: just build a kernel from source want to install perl-mouules and base package? |
| 13:14.47 | dorel_ | Gnea: just having the system with kernel sources equiped so i can later do some kernel compiling for special drivers and such |
| 13:14.51 | tarzeau | bliss1_: what has kernel todo with perl? |
| 13:14.57 | Dantix | jethro: thanks |
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| 13:15.40 | gunixu | howdy all, i've just compiled 2.4.32<kernel> and am using grub to boot. However when i boot i receive the following error; ds: no socket drivers loaded, VFS: cannot open root device "" or 03:02, please append a correct boot option "root=" boot option, kernel panic: VFS: unable mount root fs on 03:02. However i've used the correct /root mount point and am using exactly the same grug.conf setup as my old kernel was using. |
| 13:15.44 | jethro | Dantix: I think you need to have the appropriate entries in sources.list though |
| 13:15.57 | buck | I need my chicken |
| 13:16.05 | gunixu | initrd is located and pointing to the correct location in grub.conf |
| 13:16.07 | marcool | HELP : does anyone know why /etc/init.d/udev start returns this : "Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevd failed!" ? |
| 13:16.11 | bliss1_ | tarzeau: |
| 13:16.11 | bliss1_ | A fresh Debian installation is missing pretty much of everything. So i need to make sure that Perl is installed to including the whole base package. |
| 13:16.24 | gunixu | drive is an ATA drive |
| 13:16.27 | Dantix | jethro: thanks, I will add testing entries at sources.list |
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| 13:16.53 | tarzeau | bliss1_: huh? |
| 13:17.04 | tarzeau | bliss1_: a debian installation always has perl (unluckily) |
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| 13:17.58 | Gnea | dorel_: that's fine, but you only need linux-image-2.6.16-1-686 and linux-source-2.6.16 |
| 13:18.23 | Gnea | dorel_: the source will provide the headers at the time you'll need them |
| 13:18.27 | marcool | HELP : does anyone know why /etc/init.d/udev start returns this : "Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevd failed!" ? |
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| 13:18.51 | Gnea | !udev |
| 13:18.51 | dpkg | i guess udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
| 13:18.54 | BlueBeret | hi, I've just done a minor update of my 2.6.15-1-686 kernel and the system began hanging on startup with the last message "Begin: waiting for root file system... ..." - what's wrong and how can I fix it? |
| 13:19.23 | bliss1_ | tarzeau; i have built it from kernel-source-2.6.8 needSoftware Dependencies: perl + CPAN |
| 13:19.23 | Gnea | BlueBeret: you recompiled? what method did you use to do so? |
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| 13:19.43 | BlueBeret | Gnea: did not, just installed the prebuilt 686 package from apt-get |
| 13:19.43 | cahoot | marcool: if I'm not mistakenone is recommended to purge hotplug when switching to udev |
| 13:20.09 | Gnea | BlueBeret: ah ok - not sure what causes it, what are your system specs? |
| 13:20.33 | BlueBeret | Gnea: sorry, I'm quite a newbie, what are the specs? |
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| 13:20.46 | callan | Hi, in order to use some drivers, I need to install at least kernel 2.6.13, what would be the best way to do this? |
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| 13:21.20 | Dantix | jethro: seems is needed to rn apt-get update, isn't it? |
| 13:21.38 | Gnea | BlueBeret: specifications - what kind of cpu, what kind and how much ram, who made your motherboard, is there a hard drive and who made it and how big is it, do you have a good or shitty video card, does your cpu have a fan attached to it... those kind of things |
| 13:21.42 | bliss1_ | tarzeau: i will you a url to look at |
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| 13:21.56 | jethro | Dantix: yes you do. |
| 13:22.10 | Dantix | jethro: right, thanks |
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| 13:22.28 | tarzeau | bliss1_: thanks |
| 13:22.30 | BlueBeret | Gnea: aw, don't know that all... do you need that all to fix a kernel upgrade issue? |
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| 13:22.54 | Gnea | BlueBeret: most of the time. and you can find out easily.... |
| 13:22.59 | Gnea | !tell BlueBeret about newbie_guide |
| 13:23.02 | Gnea | !tell BlueBeret about newbiedoc |
| 13:23.12 | joyrider_ | I nedd some help to get a WACOM stylus to function on my tablet PC ? |
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| 13:23.29 | Gnea | BlueBeret: please, go read those and learn some basics - also check out files in /proc, they can help you determine what your system specs are |
| 13:23.56 | Gnea | joyrider_: you do? |
| 13:24.16 | Gnea | !wacom |
| 13:24.16 | dpkg | somebody said wacom was 'man 4 wacom'; or /usr/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Wacom-USB-mini-HOWTO.html; They are graphics tablets :), or for debian specific help check out http://www.i3s.unice.fr/~ol/success.html |
| 13:24.23 | joyrider_ | Yeah, can you help me? I'm kindda new to the linux world :) |
| 13:24.29 | bliss1_ | tarzeau; this will make more sense I hope about look at #4 Software Dependencies: perl + CPAN http://www.phunsites.ch/wp/2006/03/17/installing-vmware-server-on-debian-sarge/ |
| 13:24.34 | Gnea | joyrider_: yeah, check those URLS out ^^^ |
| 13:24.59 | joyrider_ | ok :) Thanks |
| 13:25.12 | BlueBeret | Gnea: I know it's nice to know all the essentials, but I'm getting annoyed by the vision of me spending hours reading something that won't quite help me in resurrecting my kernel that was just upgraded from -1 to -8 |
| 13:25.54 | joyrider_ | debian utils will work on my ubunto system right? Sorry for newbie question :) hehe |
| 13:26.02 | tarzeau | bliss1_: ask the channel, drop the tarzeau. i don't know |
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| 13:26.51 | nvz | I've been meaning to compile myself an updated kernel for a long time.. so i dont have to bitch at Gooch. that damn scsi driver keeps destroying my usb mass storage devices' filesystems with random "badness" |
| 13:26.56 | Gnea | BlueBeret: hours is nothing. |
| 13:27.05 | nethenson | hi |
| 13:27.14 | Gnea | BlueBeret: try spending 2 months learning the difference between shared and static libraries. |
| 13:27.35 | bliss1_ | nvz: the opening like could be something like "everytime i take a walk in the park its as if I had never been away, from the moment I enter the gates the smell of etc etc |
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| 13:27.50 | Gnea | BlueBeret: if you want it right here, right now, please, go back to windows. |
| 13:27.54 | BlueBeret | Gnea: after what you told me, I think I'll install an older kernel version to avoid conflicts. |
| 13:28.00 | E-bola | How can i access a tape in a tapestation in linux? |
| 13:28.13 | E-bola | its not tar or cpio, but a tape from a windows station |
| 13:28.22 | E-bola | can i sopmehow extract the data from linux |
| 13:28.23 | nvz | bliss1_: I wasnt going to write from my perspective at all. I was going to write from her perspective.. I was just a bit confused at what that was. |
| 13:28.29 | Gnea | BlueBeret: since you are unwilling to take the time to learn some essentials, then yes, you should definately do that. |
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| 13:28.43 | azeem | E-bola: you'll need to figure out the storage format I guess |
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| 13:29.51 | E-bola | azeem: im pretty sure its ntbackup |
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| 13:29.51 | BlueBeret | Gnea: I'd like to learn the essentials UNLESS I just want to boot up and it screws up breaking the job I wanted to do |
| 13:29.52 | bliss1_ | nvz: ok difficult i suppose trying to grt into someone head |
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| 13:29.52 | bliss1_ | get |
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| 13:29.53 | nvz | bliss1_: I am assuming by the way she didnt come to the bridge until I moved far enough away from it, and she sat there tossing heads of flowers onto the water with her head down she was sad about something :P |
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| 13:30.06 | Phated | Maybe she was reminiscing. Playing pooh-sticks with flowers. |
| 13:30.08 | Sonderblade | how can i query what the latest version of a package i need to install is? |
| 13:30.14 | nvz | Phated: heh ;) |
| 13:30.20 | Gnea | BlueBeret: documentation was written for a reason, i don't have the time to mentor someone at this time. |
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| 13:30.37 | Phated | nvz: :) |
| 13:30.46 | Gnea | in fact, i'm not even getting paid right now, i should be in bed |
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| 13:30.54 | d4t2ilL4 | hi do you know there's a /var/backups folder, there're dpkg.status.0 and other back up files such as passwd.bak, and shadow.bak.....what process does all that? |
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| 13:31.01 | bliss1_ | nvz: sometimes people throw folwers into water for spritual reasons others for seeing what they will do others trying to forget something |
| 13:31.13 | BlueBeret | Gnea: we're taking a redundant detour. you wanted to know my computer specs, that's it. |
| 13:31.18 | bliss1_ | flowers |
| 13:31.28 | BlueBeret | Gnea: my processor is Intel Celeron 1.2GHz |
| 13:31.42 | nvz | Phated: see, thats where I got stuck.. I knew what she was doing felt very familiar to me..as that spot was too my spot when I was her age.. I was just confused about why exactly she had come there that day |
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| 13:31.45 | BlueBeret | Gnea: RAM 256MB |
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| 13:32.08 | nvz | Phated: she wasnt taking interviews :P |
| 13:32.11 | marcool | cahoot: you said that udev recomends to purge hotplug ... would that be "#apt-get remove --purge hotplug" ? |
| 13:32.11 | Phated | nvz: Pooh-sticks, no doubt. |
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| 13:32.32 | marcool | cahoot: (sorry for the lag ... I wasn't looking and missed your answer ...) |
| 13:32.35 | BlueBeret | Gnea: IDE drives hda (160GB Samsung, four partitions) hdc (15GB WD, one partition) hdd (CD-ROM) |
| 13:32.48 | BlueBeret | Gnea: my body mass index is 22.5... |
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| 13:33.25 | BlueBeret | Gnea: monitor 14" |
| 13:33.30 | Gnea | BlueBeret: awesome, you say, uh, that you installed the 686 package of the kernel? |
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| 13:33.48 | BlueBeret | Gnea: yes |
| 13:33.55 | kristalino | where could i get officials /etc/apt/sources.list (the same after you install cleanly a debian/sarge) |
| 13:34.00 | bliss1_ | heres a url what does section 4 mean #4 Software Dependencies: perl + CPAN "http://www.phunsites.ch/wp/2006/03/17/installing-vmware-server-on-debian-sarge/" |
| 13:34.02 | BlueBeret | Gnea: or, updated |
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| 13:34.16 | Gnea | hrm.... now this is with testing or unstable? |
| 13:34.28 | BlueBeret | Gnea: testing |
| 13:34.35 | marcool | kristalino: can't you rumage through the install CD, or the apt installation package, they must be in there somwhere |
| 13:34.41 | strider | kristalino: run apt-seup |
| 13:34.50 | Gnea | and have you performed an apt-get/aptitude upgrade lately? |
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| 13:34.58 | marcool | kristalino: well ther you have it then ... sais strider |
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| 13:35.09 | mikeConigliaro | hey guys, how do i run testing instead of stable? do i just change 'stable' to 'testing' everywhere in the sources list? i cant have both 'stable' and 'testing' in there, correct? |
| 13:35.10 | strider | kristalino: *apt-setup (sarge) |
| 13:35.10 | BlueBeret | Gnea: yes |
| 13:35.11 | kristalino | strider, thanks a lot :) |
| 13:35.37 | Gnea | BlueBeret: and how long ago was that? |
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| 13:36.05 | marcool | strider: I havn't got that command on my system (Debian 3.1 testing/unstable ) |
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| 13:36.18 | BlueBeret | Gnea: about three weeks ago. first it shouted about finding no suitable ramdisk creation tools, until I upgraded mkinitramdisk-whatsthename and the installation finished - and broke |
| 13:36.22 | marcool | Does anyone know why /etc/init.d/udev start returns this : "Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevd failed!" ? |
| 13:36.22 | strider | marcool: that's right. Sarge only |
| 13:36.41 | marcool | and what replaces it under etch ? |
| 13:36.54 | Gnea | BlueBeret: i see - you should give the upgrade another whirl and see what happens - the kernel may have been upgraded in the process as well |
| 13:37.19 | Gnea | marcool: i already TOLD you |
| 13:37.20 | marcool | strider: (that would be to you strider, what replaces apt-setup in etch ?) |
| 13:37.24 | Gnea | !tell marcool about udev |
| 13:37.34 | BlueBeret | Gnea: 'another whirl' is a technical term - or what do you mean? reinstall? |
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| 13:37.44 | Gnea | BlueBeret: "give it another try" |
| 13:38.01 | jethro | marcool: $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list would work |
| 13:38.07 | marcool | Gnea: ok, thank's mate ... sorry I missed you the first time ... |
| 13:38.09 | Gnea | BlueBeret: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 13:38.21 | Gnea | marcool: :) |
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| 13:38.27 | marcool | jethro: what's EDITOR ? |
| 13:38.52 | voltagex | marcool: probably nano |
| 13:38.54 | Mr_Smoke | hi there ... am I the only one getting timeouts with as many as 3 different debian mirrors for testing (stable seems ok) ? |
| 13:38.54 | jethro | marcool: your prefered text editor. vim, nano, ed, emacs, whatever |
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| 13:39.00 | BlueBeret | aww... |
| 13:39.01 | strider | marcool: nothing as such, though you probably could use apt-spy or something to automatically add it |
| 13:39.17 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: that depends on what you've got in your sources.list |
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| 13:39.48 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, well, i've tried official mirrors in France (2 of them) and one in the UK, no luck |
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| 13:39.52 | marcool | strider: ? ...apt-spy... ? |
| 13:40.28 | strider | !info apt-spy |
| 13:40.29 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-14 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 13:41.01 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: and those urls would be...? |
| 13:41.08 | gunixu | anyone know why i'm getting a VFS: cannot open root device "" 3:02 |
| 13:41.16 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, ftp.fr.debian.org, ftp.fr2.debian.org, ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 13:41.26 | marcool | strider: ok cool ... thank's ! |
| 13:41.30 | gunixu | i am using root=/dev/hda2 |
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| 13:41.34 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, each occurrence of apt-get update stalled at getting the packages list |
| 13:41.38 | Gnea | ftp.fr2.debian.org does not exist, try again |
| 13:41.39 | nvz | Phated: *shrug* not sure how that works. I just know she kind of move about the field just kind of picking the heads of the dandelions and as I watched she would occationaly look up to see where I was and as I moved to the other side of the water and downstream she made her way up to the bridge and sat down resting her head on the rail and stared down into the water tossing the flowers quite evenly spaced I might add, and didnt like tear them |
| 13:41.41 | strider | marcool: np :) |
| 13:41.47 | gunixu | and initrd is pointing to the correct file/location |
| 13:41.51 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: try some other mirrors |
| 13:41.53 | gunixu | any idea's ? |
| 13:41.53 | Gnea | !mirrors |
| 13:41.53 | dpkg | methinks debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 13:41.59 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, i meant ftp2.fr.debian.org, my bad |
| 13:42.10 | Gnea | ah |
| 13:42.15 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, well it's a weird pattern, these 3 have all failed at the same point |
| 13:42.35 | Ranpha | What is the best version Stable, Unstable or testing. I want to run the new wine 0.9.12 abd firefix/ thunderbird 1.5 |
| 13:42.38 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: yeah, just try some other mirrors |
| 13:42.41 | Mr_Smoke | they're all timing out |
| 13:42.52 | Phated | nvz: Adorable. |
| 13:42.53 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: there's probably some network issues out there |
| 13:42.58 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, i'll try a few others ... btw was there ever a debconf where one could choose the mirrors ? I can't remember its name |
| 13:43.10 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, could be too, indeed, i can't reach opera.com for example ... can you ? |
| 13:43.14 | efaistos | Hi |
| 13:43.16 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: did you see what dpkg said? |
| 13:43.35 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, oh i missed that, hadn't seen your !mirrors |
| 13:43.36 | nvz | Phated: *nod* I search long and hard for my inspiration :P |
| 13:43.38 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: yeah, it loaded right up |
| 13:43.48 | efaistos | could someone explain to me why a 2.6.15 kernel cant find a volume group at boot time and a 2.6.8 one can ... |
| 13:43.50 | Mr_Smoke | right, so there is definitely a network problem |
| 13:43.56 | Mr_Smoke | thanks for clearing this up, for one |
| 13:44.03 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: i'm in the states tho, so i'm not entirely sure of the status over there |
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| 13:44.14 | Gnea | no problem |
| 13:44.16 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, duh, i don't even *have* apt-setup ... O.o |
| 13:44.16 | Gnea | :) |
| 13:44.18 | nvz | Phated: if only I could bring myself to write the stuff down like I used to |
| 13:44.23 | petemc | efaistos: lack of lvm support |
| 13:44.24 | Mr_Smoke | i could have sworn I had that thing |
| 13:44.24 | Gnea | lol... uh |
| 13:44.26 | petemc | pergaps |
| 13:44.29 | petemc | gah |
| 13:44.39 | Phated | nvz: Heh. |
| 13:44.42 | efaistos | petemc: do you have an idea ? |
| 13:44.44 | Mr_Smoke | Gnea, uh oh ... the plot thickens, packages.debian.org doesn't list apt-setup O.o |
| 13:44.58 | Gnea | Mr_Smoke: what about apt-config? |
| 13:45.03 | efaistos | who use LVM here by the way ? |
| 13:45.06 | petemc | efaistos: is the root fs on lvm? if so does your initrd have the required support? |
| 13:45.11 | jm_ | !tell Mr_Smoke -about base-config |
| 13:45.13 | petemc | efaistos: i use it for xen |
| 13:45.24 | Mr_Smoke | elea:/home/smokey# base-config |
| 13:45.24 | Mr_Smoke | bash: base-config: command not found |
| 13:45.27 | Mr_Smoke | WHAT the ..... |
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| 13:45.36 | efaistos | petemc: where to check that ? |
| 13:45.50 | petemc | efaistos: you can mount an initrd and look at it |
| 13:45.58 | Thanatermesis | any howto for bootsplash + initramfs ? |
| 13:46.06 | nvz | Phated: I read my words of the day.. and even with my ever expanding vocab and the fact that I havent written all that much I still find myself more often than not using the same ideas, phrases, words, and even inspiration and I get bored and even disgusted at times with writing |
| 13:46.09 | efaistos | petemc: i dont know too much about initrd |
| 13:46.16 | nvz | Phated: good inspiration is hard to find :P |
| 13:46.18 | Phated | nvz: Eee, I hate when that happens. |
| 13:46.22 | petemc | efaistos: nor me, just what i have to |
| 13:46.35 | efaistos | petemc: so what should i do ? |
| 13:46.36 | Gnea | dpkg -S /usr/sbin/apt-setup |
| 13:46.37 | dpkg | There is no record of a /usr/sbin/apt-setup package |
| 13:46.37 | Gnea | base-config: /usr/sbin/apt-setup |
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| 13:46.42 | strider | Mr_Smoke: apt-setup is not available for Etch/Sid |
| 13:47.00 | petemc | efaistos: mount the initrd on the loopback, do the same for the working one - compare |
| 13:47.15 | Gnea | !info base-config sarge |
| 13:47.17 | Mr_Smoke | strider, oh well, that would explain it then ... has it ever been available though ? |
| 13:47.23 | petemc | efaistos: you didnt answer my question about whether the root fs was on lvm btw |
| 13:47.26 | Mr_Smoke | for testing/sid ? |
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| 13:47.37 | carbon60 | I have a load avg of 0.54 on a system. Trying to figure out what is causing it, I'm running top. Top shows almost 100% idle. How do I figure out what is causing the load? |
| 13:47.38 | Mr_Smoke | i have that weird feeling I've used it before |
| 13:47.47 | efaistos | petemc: yes its on the lvm and the boot is on a ext3 partition |
| 13:47.52 | stew | Mr_Smoke: it was removed a few months ago |
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| 13:48.06 | petemc | efaistos: then you do need an initrd with lvm support |
| 13:48.22 | efaistos | petemc: and how to change it ? * |
| 13:48.41 | petemc | efaistos: im afraid you're going to have to read up on that yourself |
| 13:48.52 | Mr_Smoke | stew, ouch... that su... erm .... :) |
| 13:49.01 | efaistos | but why the 2.6.8 have it and not the 2.6.15 ?? |
| 13:49.12 | dpkg | base-config: (Debian base system configurator), section base, is optional. Version: 2.53.10 (sarge), Packaged size: 300 kB, Installed size: 1540 kB |
| 13:49.16 | Ranpha | What is the best version Stable, Unstable or testing. I want to run the new wine 0.9.12 abd firefix/ thunderbird 1.5 |
| 13:49.34 | stew | efaistos: probably becuase of a bug in the initrd tool you used to create the initrd for 2.6.15 |
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| 13:49.47 | strider | Mr_Smoke: i think it is a part of base-config which is no longer there for Testing onwards |
| 13:49.51 | stew | Ranpha: stable + backports |
| 13:49.52 | dorel_ | when i installed a fonts package i got the warning: warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 does not exist or is not a directory -- is this critical? am i missing some fonts package? |
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| 13:50.19 | Mr_Smoke | strider, understood, thanks for the heads up |
| 13:50.31 | stew | dorel_: which version of debian? |
| 13:50.31 | efaistos | petemc: is there an order in fstab for that ? |
| 13:50.34 | Mr_Smoke | so there probably is a network mishap on this end.... sucks big time too |
| 13:51.05 | dorel_ | stew: unstable, 2.6.16-1.686 |
| 13:51.13 | Ranpha | Stew: backports meaning??? |
| 13:51.18 | petemc | efaistos: dont worry about fstab, this is most likely an initrd issue - investigate what stew told you |
| 13:51.31 | stew | !debfaq dorel_ Xorg69To7 |
| 13:51.37 | stew | !debwiki dorel_ Xorg69To7 |
| 13:51.37 | dpkg | dorel_: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 13:51.42 | stew | Ranpha: /msg dpkg backports |
| 13:52.12 | dorel_ | oh lol |
| 13:52.17 | dorel_ | there's 7 already on unstable :) |
| 13:52.45 | Ranpha | okay thanks....that's just what i needed....was trying to install testing...but i keep stable |
| 13:52.56 | dorel_ | stew: i did an install of x-window-system-core and x-window-system |
| 13:53.21 | dorel_ | stew: so i should run now 'apt-get install xorg' |
| 13:53.36 | Mr_Smoke | ok that's a weird fuckup here .... apt-get times out while I can navigate the ftp mirror i'm using and retrieve the files |
| 13:53.39 | dorel_ | oh wait, i got xorg now :P |
| 13:54.29 | Thanatermesis | what is the better "SPLASH" thing on debian ? (2.6.15, initramfs) |
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| 13:54.58 | sepone | Mr_Smoke, pehaps the ftp server only allow a few connections from each host. so while you navigate it it times out |
| 13:54.59 | Mr_Smoke | hm i can't get the packages index |
| 13:55.13 | Mr_Smoke | sepone, well i've tried out 7 mirrors now |
| 13:55.30 | Mr_Smoke | sepone, on each and everyone of them, apt-get timed out while getting the packages list |
| 13:55.33 | Mr_Smoke | (Packages.gz) |
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| 13:56.15 | Mr_Smoke | i can get *anything* else from the ftp mirror |
| 13:56.16 | Razva | hi there. I've just installed webmin and it tells me via Error - Access denied for |
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| 13:56.26 | Mr_Smoke | even while navigating it with my ftp client for example |
| 13:56.28 | stew | Thanatermesis: /msg dpkg splashy? |
| 13:56.35 | Razva | any ideea how to set it? |
| 13:56.39 | Mr_Smoke | but Packages.gz or .bz2 are impossible to retrieve O.o |
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| 13:56.56 | gunixu | how can i check what file format a drive is in ? |
| 13:57.03 | Thanatermesis | splashy ? mmmh, this not works with the bootsplash stuff, correct ? |
| 13:57.18 | Thanatermesis | i can't posible to make it running on initramfs :/ (only initrd) |
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| 13:59.00 | stew | Thanatermesis: yes, splashy is all userspace, it wouldn't load until after the rootfs is mounted |
| 13:59.10 | stew | Mr_Smoke: can you give an example url? |
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| 13:59.40 | Mr_Smoke | stew, ftp.fr.debian.org/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz |
| 14:00.00 | Mr_Smoke | stew oops : |
| 14:00.02 | Thanatermesis | ouch.. i can't posible to use it then :/ |
| 14:00.12 | Mr_Smoke | stew, ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz |
| 14:00.42 | stew | Mr_Smoke: the second one works |
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| 14:01.11 | Mr_Smoke | stew, well that's a bloody no-brainer ... it simply doesn't up here ... I can get *anything* else from the mirror though |
| 14:01.12 | stew | Mr_Smoke: from both http and ftp |
| 14:01.20 | stew | Mr_Smoke: show me the line you have in sources.list |
| 14:01.45 | Sonderblade | i have a box running sarge and i need to install just one package (and its dependencies) from unstable, how would I accomplish that? |
| 14:01.47 | stew | Mr_Smoke: just ONE line, or if you want to show us the entire sources.list use a pastebin |
| 14:01.48 | Mr_Smoke | well i've changed it a dozen times now |
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| 14:02.00 | d4mi4n | hi |
| 14:02.01 | Mr_Smoke | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 14:02.06 | Mr_Smoke | that's one of them for example |
| 14:02.11 | stew | Mr_Smoke: no an official mirror |
| 14:02.37 | Mr_Smoke | stew, i know, it is a mirror though, but same symptoms as with any of the other 7 mirrors i've tried |
| 14:02.38 | stew | Mr_Smoke: that one would probably work if you replace testing with etch |
| 14:02.49 | d4mi4n | how can i get the speed of my serial port? i know that it's writen in lilo.conf, but i have grub and my grub.conf doesn't tell me anything |
| 14:03.06 | Mr_Smoke | stew, it doesn't add up ... i'll paste the output of the apt-get update to pastebin in a second |
| 14:03.16 | stew | Mr_Smoke: that was not a debian mirror, that was a 3rd party repository of non-debian software |
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| 14:04.14 | stew | Mr_Smoke: and ftp.nerim.net doens't serve a testing Release, only named Releases |
| 14:04.16 | d4mi4n | ah ok found it |
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| 14:05.20 | Mr_Smoke | stew, well it looks like there's a symlink for testing though |
| 14:06.17 | Mr_Smoke | stew, http://pastebin.com/682974 |
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| 14:06.57 | stew | Mr_Smoke: that all looks good |
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| 14:07.41 | Mr_Smoke | stew .... except that it just *hangs there forever* |
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| 14:08.19 | stew | Mr_Smoke: oh then you have a networking problem. some router in between you and the server |
| 14:08.47 | Mr_Smoke | stew, how come I can reach the server and browse its directories then ?? |
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| 14:09.23 | Mr_Smoke | and get other files too ? |
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| 14:10.15 | stew | Mr_Smoke: i don't know what problem you are having with networking |
| 14:10.31 | stew | Mr_Smoke: i would guess its a buggy ftp active mode connection tracker on a machine that is natting for you |
| 14:11.11 | stew | Mr_Smoke: so you are able to download files via http and maybe your browser is using passive mode ftp |
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| 14:11.34 | xerophyte | does anybody know why do i get this error ount: block device /dev/sda5 is write-protected, mounting read-only the fstab entry for that /dev/sda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 and when i try to mount -o remount / does anybody know does that mount is mounting with read-onley |
| 14:11.44 | Mr_Smoke | stew, well the NAT gateway has been up and hasn't had any change in months |
| 14:11.58 | Mr_Smoke | and suddenly this morning I can't get my updates ... |
| 14:12.21 | Mr_Smoke | stew, besides, the NAT gateway is a debian system itself, and it cannot retrieve the files either, although it is not NATting itself ... |
| 14:12.24 | stew | Mr_Smoke: and btw, /msg dpkg testing security |
| 14:12.25 | Mr_Smoke | most puzzling |
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| 14:12.38 | stew | Mr_Smoke: then my guess was wrong, its some other problem |
| 14:12.41 | Mr_Smoke | stew, apt-key shouldn't be a problem but i'll double check |
| 14:12.47 | stew | Mr_Smoke: no, its not |
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| 14:13.06 | stew | Mr_Smoke: strace it |
| 14:13.37 | Razva | how can I search for a debian package I can apt-get? I would like to search for an apache mod |
| 14:13.37 | Mr_Smoke | yep, done that already, hang on |
| 14:13.51 | Mr_Smoke | Razva, apt-cache search ? |
| 14:14.07 | Razva | thanks :) |
| 14:14.21 | wdamn | Hi, how can I monitor ram usage with mon daemon? |
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| 14:15.39 | Mr_Smoke | stew, http://pastebin.com/682987 |
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| 14:15.59 | Razva | the problem is that I can't update webmin without the proc module, and I can't install the proc module because he needs an updated webmin :)) any ideeas? |
| 14:16.07 | Mr_Smoke | stew, that just goes on and on in a loop and then ultimately times out |
| 14:16.18 | jethro | !webmin |
| 14:16.19 | dpkg | somebody said webmin was a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
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| 14:17.30 | Razva | aha, ok :P |
| 14:18.15 | [Cadet] | About to leave now but have to run by work first |
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| 14:20.32 | tarzeau | could i dump the latest stuff from http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2006/04/thrd5.html with some command line non-interactive news reader? |
| 14:20.45 | tarzeau | i mean what software with what parameters would i use |
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| 14:23.46 | wireddd | I have been trying to update my kernel in testing to 2.6.15 from the 2.6.12 kernel I have installed right now. With 2.6.15 or anything newer my second video card's graphics look "corrupted". What can I do to figure out where the problem is |
| 14:24.59 | Mr_Smoke | stew, i'm back again ... apparently it might be an issue with the conntrack table ... i notice my firewall/nat debian system is dropping packets from the ftp servers that it shouldn't drop |
| 14:25.07 | jair | are you guys familiar with 802.11N? I heard that is faster than the regular ethernet UTP cable cat 5? |
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| 14:26.58 | Braindead | Mr_Smoke: what's the point in using obsolete protocols like ftp when it's not needed? use http instead and ease the work of the conntrack table. it's conntrack table appreciation day,you know |
| 14:27.41 | Mr_Smoke | Braindead, well it still fails when using http on the ftp servers |
| 14:27.49 | Braindead | d'oh |
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| 14:28.29 | Mr_Smoke | Braindead, indeed |
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| 14:29.07 | locus | can anyone tell me why apt-get and aptitude (without -r or any other flags) install different dependencies sometimes? |
| 14:29.32 | Eclipser | aptitude installs recommended stuff too? |
| 14:29.34 | marcool | now that's a good question locus |
| 14:29.39 | xmodem | hey, i'm trying to set up a debian box as a fileserver |
| 14:29.50 | xmodem | i have two big volumes mounted under /media |
| 14:29.56 | xmodem | both xfs filesystems |
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| 14:30.04 | xmodem | and non-root users can't create files there |
| 14:30.04 | Mr_Smoke | right |
| 14:30.11 | Mr_Smoke | thanks for your help people :)= |
| 14:30.11 | locus | marcels, it would be even better if I could get an answer for that ;) |
| 14:30.12 | xmodem | anyone have any idea why? |
| 14:30.17 | Mr_Smoke | s/=// |
| 14:30.17 | Mr_Smoke | cheerio |
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| 14:30.42 | marcool | xmodem: make sure that /etc/fstab contains the "user" flag under the options column for those disks |
| 14:30.44 | smacnay | How does one force an install of a previous version of a package through apt-get? |
| 14:31.04 | xmodem | marcool: doesn't that just say whether or not a user can mount it? |
| 14:31.24 | Razva | idiotic question: how can I add another nic (like eth1) and conf it? |
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| 14:31.27 | marcool | smacnay: one doesn't use apt-get, you just download the old version off the .deb and hit : dpkg -i ***.deb |
| 14:31.36 | smacnay | marcool: thanks |
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| 14:31.48 | azeem | Razva: 1. add it, 2. edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:31.53 | marcool | xmodem: yeah, but if the user hase mounted it then it will be usable by all users (I would think ...) |
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| 14:32.00 | azeem | Razva: maybe add a "check that it gets recognized by Linux" in there |
| 14:32.07 | xmodem | yeah but i want it mounted at boot |
| 14:32.10 | xmodem | ah well, will try anyway |
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| 14:32.36 | alkalineX | hi.. which version of debian is recommended for a production server. |
| 14:32.49 | Braindead | stable. |
| 14:32.55 | marcool | xmodem: yeah, well at boottime the system runs mount -a so everything in /etc/fstab gets mounted anyway ... |
| 14:32.58 | alkalineX | sarge? |
| 14:33.15 | marcool | anything mission critical should be stable |
| 14:33.17 | gunixu | ok i think i've found the issue. |
| 14:33.22 | marcool | yes sarg |
| 14:33.40 | gunixu | partitions are in ext3, new kernel has been compiled in/with/as ext2 |
| 14:33.40 | marcool | alkalineX: sarge* |
| 14:33.48 | gunixu | what do you suggest ? |
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| 14:34.27 | marcool | gunixu: recompile with ext3 ... |
| 14:34.40 | spanglesontoast | what would I need to add to my sources list in net install to install etch? |
| 14:34.48 | marcool | gunixu: or change to reiserfs and save yourself a load of trouble ... no ? |
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| 14:35.05 | xmodem | marcool: didn't help |
| 14:35.13 | Razva | ok, after editing /etc/network/interfaces what should I do? should I restart any network module? |
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| 14:35.26 | marcool | ah ... |
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| 14:35.35 | voltagex | how can I keep a process running after I logout (normal user)??? |
| 14:35.52 | src | question: does anyone know if debian from scratch has got s-ata support? |
| 14:35.54 | voltagex | it's 12:35am and I just want a simple solution |
| 14:35.56 | gunixu | marcool: how do i change the reiserfs ? |
| 14:36.02 | voltagex | process & doesn't do it |
| 14:36.09 | voltagex | it gets killed when I logout |
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| 14:36.19 | gunixu | i would like to not go through the kernel compile process again and i do not wish to reformat my drives and loose all data. |
| 14:36.24 | mikeConigliaro | voltagex, you can try the screen command |
| 14:36.37 | marcool | voltagex: put it in the /etc/rc2.d and it will be started at init, then even if the user logs out it will still be runing |
| 14:36.39 | src | does anyone know if debian from scratch has got s-ata support? |
| 14:36.39 | Braindead | voltagex: do you "WANT" or you "would like to find" a simple solution? |
| 14:36.57 | marcool | good question Braindead |
| 14:37.05 | Razva | azeem? |
| 14:37.06 | voltagex | marcool: if I start it as root, will it stay running? |
| 14:37.19 | src | thx |
| 14:37.37 | marcool | voltagex: like if you log in, start the proces, then log out ... no that will terminate all user native processes |
| 14:37.52 | marcool | it's got to be part of init to run if no user is logged on |
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| 14:38.01 | Braindead | voltagex: screen or nohup. the fact it's 12:35 AM in your time zone doesn't actually mean you can "WANT" answers,anyway |
| 14:38.10 | voltagex | lol |
| 14:38.15 | voltagex | ok screen it is |
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| 14:38.49 | voltagex | what's the detach key combo? |
| 14:38.55 | Braindead | C-a-d |
| 14:38.58 | gunixu | marcool:? |
| 14:39.00 | marcool | Braindead: I think voltagex just meant that he doesn't want a complicated solution, and that it was more of a joke than anything else ... |
| 14:39.10 | voltagex | control-a-d? |
| 14:39.18 | marcool | gunixu: yeah ? |
| 14:39.20 | spanglesontoast | anyone know what the etch sources list needs to be? |
| 14:39.22 | azeem | Razva: ifup eth1 |
| 14:39.25 | gunixu | i would like to not go through the kernel compile process again and i do not wish to reformat my drives and loose all data. |
| 14:39.28 | Braindead | ctrl-a is the basic "combo". then d |
| 14:39.32 | gunixu | marcool: how do i change the reiserfs ? |
| 14:39.33 | voltagex | ok |
| 14:39.36 | azeem | Razva: or whatever your new interface is called |
| 14:39.42 | Braindead | screen -r to attach it |
| 14:39.51 | tarzeau | i always use -x |
| 14:39.51 | marcool | gunixu: isn't there a util that'll convert ext2 to ext3 or vice-versa ? |
| 14:40.02 | marcool | gunixu: like windows does fat to ntfs ... for instance |
| 14:40.19 | gunixu | marcool: i dunno is their ? if so i would love to know. |
| 14:40.19 | Braindead | well,ext3 is ext2+journal. and it can be mounted indeed as ext2 |
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| 14:40.28 | Braindead | man tune2fs |
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| 14:40.45 | marcool | gunixu: just gimme a sec i'll take a look |
| 14:40.51 | gunixu | this VFS:unable to mount root fs on 03:02 error is giving me the shits |
| 14:41.23 | marcool | gunixu: else any new installation of debian will format disks with reiserfs format by default |
| 14:41.39 | thingfish | ? |
| 14:42.00 | marcool | gunixu: tell me exactly what you've got again, disks in ext3, kernel compiled for ext2 is that it ? |
| 14:42.08 | marcool | gunixu: and data to be kept ? |
| 14:42.22 | gunixu | yup |
| 14:42.37 | strav | I'm buzzing around looking to know where sendmail.cf takes it's value for the Cw line... (apparently, on a debian so, apparently, there's no such thing as sendmail.cw)... |
| 14:43.01 | Braindead | maybe he's forgetting to compile all the shit about his IDE/sata controllers...and maybe I just don't know why he's actually rolling up his own kernel if he clearly hasn't got a clue |
| 14:43.03 | gunixu | and i've exhausted every single other avenue so it has to be the issue. |
| 14:43.42 | gunixu | initrd is pointing to the correct .img and is locating it fine. root=/dev/hda2 is root. |
| 14:43.55 | gunixu | so my last option is ^^ |
| 14:43.57 | mikeConigliaro | how can i tell what compile flags were used in a debian package? |
| 14:44.00 | strav | (btw I want something more gracefull than editing that file manually or through a script) |
| 14:44.19 | spanglesontoast | what repos do I need for etch? |
| 14:44.28 | azeem | strav: "don't use sendmail then" I guess |
| 14:44.48 | gunixu | Brainded: the kernel has the correct support modules compiled for my IDE controller |
| 14:44.49 | marcool | gunixu: go and take a look at this : http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2003-11/1271.html |
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| 14:45.25 | strav | azeem: I mean not editing sendmail.cf manually since it appears to be generated on startup. |
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| 14:45.52 | strav | (which mean I have to do it everytime) |
| 14:46.09 | azeem | strav: why do you use sendmail? |
| 14:46.19 | DeadS0ul | formatting a large usb hard drive doesn't seem to work too well on linux |
| 14:46.34 | Razva | darn, how can I uninstall a RPM I've just installed? (or a .deb)? |
| 14:46.39 | strav | azeem: to learn how it works. |
| 14:46.46 | azeem | strav: ok then |
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| 14:46.55 | sohmestra | spanglesontoast: google loves you. talk to it. |
| 14:47.02 | DeadS0ul | use rpm --help to find out |
| 14:47.04 | smacnay | what is the address of the Debian repository for older packages? |
| 14:47.04 | azeem | strav: there are not many people in here (if at all) who know about sendmail, though |
| 14:47.05 | gunixu | marcool: thankyou, i will give that a try. |
| 14:47.09 | DeadS0ul | I forogot teh exact command though |
| 14:47.12 | Braindead | mikeConigliaro: deb-src line in your sources.list;apt-get source FOO;editor FOO[tab]/debian/rules and see the CFLAGS |
| 14:47.13 | azeem | smacnay: snapshot.debian.net |
| 14:47.14 | spanglesontoast | it doesn't give me the things I want thoiu |
| 14:47.41 | Razva | DeadS0ul did that before asking but didn't found anything...maybe I'm blind... |
| 14:47.50 | smacnay | thanks |
| 14:47.53 | tjansson | Is it just me that am having problems with gkrellmd in debian? I keep getting "gkrellmd error: Connection not allowed from 192.168.1.100" |
| 14:47.53 | strav | well, sendmail chan is populated with stones, this why I came here. |
| 14:47.56 | spanglesontoast | and being snobby doesn't get you anywhere sohmestra |
| 14:48.12 | azeem | strav: yeah, just pointing out it might not yield results |
| 14:48.18 | xmodem | marcool: don't know if you saw but i pasted that line in the proivate message |
| 14:48.29 | azeem | you can try to ask again tomorrow or so, maybe somebody is then on who knows |
| 14:48.33 | Razva | -e |
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| 14:48.46 | marcool | xmodem: sorry I missed it actualy, i've exited that window ... sorry |
| 14:48.52 | roler | is there a problem with gconf in debian testing?? |
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| 14:48.58 | xmodem | ah "/dev/hda10 /media/disk1 xfs defaults,user 0 2" |
| 14:49.08 | xmodem | np |
| 14:49.08 | Razva | ok, seems alien doesn't has remove.. |
| 14:49.13 | strav | azeem: I see, well thanks for the concern anyways. |
| 14:49.13 | marcool | ehm... |
| 14:49.22 | Braindead | Razva: why did you use alien in the first place? |
| 14:49.24 | marcool | looks cool |
| 14:49.38 | Razva | rpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian. |
| 14:49.48 | Braindead | and btw it should've created a deb you installed with dpkg. so man dpkg to learn how to remove it |
| 14:49.56 | Razva | aha |
| 14:50.04 | marcool | xmodem: so why doesn't it work |
| 14:50.09 | Razva | ok, so what's the best way to install a rpm on debian? |
| 14:50.11 | Braindead | ok,let's rephrase. why did you use a rpm in the first place? |
| 14:50.20 | Ronin | Razva: on purpose? didnt someone say alien? |
| 14:50.21 | xmodem | marcool: some premission problem i assume |
| 14:50.21 | azeem | Razva: you shouldn't :) |
| 14:50.23 | Braindead | the best way is NOT installing it |
| 14:50.32 | Razva | ouch |
| 14:50.40 | azeem | Razva: what package are you trying to install? |
| 14:50.47 | Razva | ok, I've used alien to make a .deb |
| 14:50.51 | Braindead | YES |
| 14:50.55 | gunixu | marcool: when trying to tune2fs i receive Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda, couldn't find valid filesystem superblock |
| 14:50.58 | Razva | now, I have the .deb. how can I uninstall it? |
| 14:51.01 | Braindead | but for which program? |
| 14:51.09 | Ronin | Razva: what package are you wanting? |
| 14:51.12 | Razva | webmin (don't ask...I'll forget it...) |
| 14:51.21 | wdamn | Hi, how can I monitor ram usage with mon daemon or something like that? |
| 14:51.25 | Braindead | you're asking for big ass problems,dude. |
| 14:51.25 | Ronin | Razva: then use apt-get webmin is available |
| 14:51.26 | azeem | Razva: there were Debian packages for webmin |
| 14:51.35 | Braindead | !webmin |
| 14:51.35 | dpkg | hmm... webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
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| 14:51.35 | Razva | yes, but it's ancient |
| 14:51.42 | Ronin | !backports |
| 14:51.43 | dpkg | it has been said that backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 14:51.43 | Braindead | just in case it's not clear enough |
| 14:52.04 | azeem | Razva: apt-get remove <package> to remove a package |
| 14:52.22 | Razva | heh, well the ported webmin is ancient. in order to install any new module I need to use a decent version of webmin |
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| 14:52.30 | Braindead | Razva: if you've never installed the .deb with dpkg -i FOOSHIT.deb there's nothing to remove |
| 14:52.30 | Razva | so that's why I've tried to install that idiotic rpm |
| 14:52.33 | marcool | gunixu: have you looked the error up in google or anything ? |
| 14:52.39 | Ronin | Razva: once again try backports |
| 14:52.51 | azeem | Ronin: are you sure backports has webmin? |
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| 14:53.31 | FromTO | stupid question but how do I kill all processes that belong to a specific user |
| 14:53.39 | Razva | aha, ok, I'm begining to understand what backports is |
| 14:53.41 | azeem | FromTO: killall |
| 14:53.43 | Ronin | azeem: honestly no, but looking is better then trying to do rpms etc. |
| 14:53.45 | petemc | FromTO: slay |
| 14:53.49 | marcool | FromTO: man killall ... and look through that |
| 14:53.59 | Razva | ok, now, how can I uninstall that .deb I've just installed? |
| 14:54.06 | FromTO | tahnks guys. |
| 14:54.08 | azeem | FromTO: right, what petemc said |
| 14:54.11 | marcool | FromTO: ok forget me and look at petemc |
| 14:54.35 | marcool | FromTO: look's like we all bank on petemc ... |
| 14:54.48 | marcool | FromTO: :-D |
| 14:54.55 | azeem | Razva: I told you |
| 14:55.08 | Razva | what about dpkg? |
| 14:55.13 | xmodem | marcool? |
| 14:55.14 | azeem | what about it? |
| 14:55.14 | Braindead | what about RTFM? |
| 14:55.18 | Braindead | man dpkg |
| 14:55.24 | marcool | xmodem: yeah ! |
| 14:55.29 | Ronin | Braindead: manual? whats that? ;) |
| 14:55.38 | xmodem | users can access, but can't create new files |
| 14:55.46 | chrholck | anyone who was a nice guide, to connect from windows to debian? |
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| 14:55.58 | Razva | :)) |
| 14:56.07 | azeem | chrholck: use putty |
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| 14:56.10 | Razva | I've just read 4 manuals of "installation managers" |
| 14:56.11 | Ronin | chrholck: connect in what way? |
| 14:56.22 | marcool | xmodem: what does ls -l of the mounted drive give you for permissions ... |
| 14:56.29 | Razva | and none worked, or at least I didn't found out how. azeem can you please repeat? |
| 14:56.39 | azeem | 16:45 < azeem> Razva: apt-get remove <package> to remove a package |
| 14:56.42 | marcool | xmodem: it couldn't be a simple matter of alowing the users write permission could it !? |
| 14:56.57 | zambba | Is the installer broken? I downloaded credit card cd image for testing version and it isn't able to install grub. |
| 14:56.57 | xmodem | marcool: just fixed it :) |
| 14:57.07 | xmodem | it appears that i had to chmod -R the whole filesystem |
| 14:57.13 | marcool | xmodem: ah ! |
| 14:57.14 | xmodem | which i swear i tried but it didn't work |
| 14:57.20 | xmodem | worked this time tho |
| 14:57.23 | Razva | azeem aha, so it should work even if I've installed it using .deb? |
| 14:57.30 | xmodem | must have mistyped something |
| 14:57.34 | marcool | xmodem: yeah that's what I was getting at ... the default permissions are a bit weird somtimes ... |
| 14:57.42 | Razva | yey, worked |
| 14:57.49 | xmodem | yeah, thanks for your help |
| 14:57.50 | Razva | Removing webmin ... <- amin! |
| 14:57.52 | marcool | xmodem: glad you got I working ! |
| 14:57.53 | azeem | Razva: .deb is an extension you cannot "use" that |
| 14:58.02 | marcool | xmodem: didn't do much ... no pb mate |
| 14:58.06 | Razva | yeah, it was an expression |
| 14:58.15 | Razva | let me read about backpor |
| 14:58.16 | Razva | *t |
| 14:58.29 | Ronin | Razva: azeem has a point, im not positive its in backports |
| 14:58.43 | azeem | Razva: I would seriously question the sanity of the backports people if they included webmin, for what's it worth |
| 14:58.57 | azeem | Razva: but take a look at http://www.backports.org |
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| 14:59.34 | Razva | http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/w/ <- nope, webmin is not ported. |
| 14:59.44 | Petrov | how can i install xfce? |
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| 15:00.04 | marcool | Petrov: apt-get install xfce |
| 15:00.07 | smacnay | Seems my nvidia driver version mismathes in "testing" are fixable by installing from "unstable" but I might just not get into that right now. |
| 15:00.08 | Truscha | hello i search german help for debian |
| 15:00.17 | marcool | Petrov: but please tell me you've tried that ... |
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| 15:00.28 | marcool | Truscha: goto #debian-de ... |
| 15:00.36 | azeem | #debian.de rather |
| 15:00.37 | Truscha | thanks |
| 15:00.39 | Petrov | marcool, cannot find this pakket |
| 15:00.43 | saloxin | Petrov: or xfce4 && run xfce4_setup as your favourite user |
| 15:00.50 | marcool | azeem: sorry ... |
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| 15:01.05 | marcool | Petrov: have you searched on www.debian.org or www.apt-get.com ? |
| 15:01.13 | azeem | marcool: it's xfce4... |
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| 15:01.23 | Razva | ok, excluding webmin's virtualmin, do you know any webhost manager? |
| 15:01.33 | Petrov | azeem, it's work |
| 15:01.34 | Razva | I knew one some time ago...something with V |
| 15:01.37 | chrholck | azeem & ronin, well, i want to copy some files from my debian server to my windows .. but i can't copy with putty can i? |
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| 15:01.48 | azeem | chrholck: you can do pscp |
| 15:01.59 | marcool | azeem: should have started by apt-cache search xfce ... shouldn't I |
| 15:02.07 | azeem | yes |
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| 15:02.25 | tim_flatus | Can anyone give me a top of the head explanation or pointer to how I can prevent shutdown if any users are still logged in or at least a warning? I am reading the right docs, (probably) but my eyes are beginning to mist over and I'm just not seeing it. |
| 15:02.38 | marcool | azeem: easy trap, I would have done it without thinkin ... |
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| 15:03.24 | marcool | tim_flatus: can't you wright a script that checks if a user is loged on, and halts if not, or echoes if there is ... |
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| 15:03.57 | chrholck | azeem, what's that? is that a, ftp like client running over ssh? ;) |
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| 15:04.10 | marcool | tim_flatus: use the "who" command to find out who's logged on, excluding the current user ... and then halt if nobody else is, or echo "***" and exit |
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| 15:06.26 | Razva | http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/ <- yay :D |
| 15:06.26 | marcool | tim_flatus: do you know how to right a bash script ? |
| 15:07.10 | chrholck | azeem, pscp won't work.. i know there's a ftp like client, that runs over ssh.. do you know the name? i cant remember it. |
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| 15:07.23 | Ronin | why wont pscp work? works fine on ssh |
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| 15:09.26 | peppet | chrholck: sftp? |
| 15:09.50 | marcool | chrholck: or psftp even ... |
| 15:09.59 | chrholck | Ronin, well, it won't start on my computer. |
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| 15:10.01 | marcool | google : putty |
| 15:10.06 | chrholck | i'll try, ty |
| 15:10.08 | sohmestra | spanglesontoast: I wasn't being a snob. I expected that info to be readily available via google. Generally though, if you don't know how to upgrade to etch, you probably aren't ready for it. |
| 15:11.39 | Ronin | chrholck: its a cmd line too |
| 15:11.46 | Ronin | chrholck: open a cmd prompt and run it |
| 15:12.30 | Braindead | I'll add lftp && open fish://user@host to the stack |
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| 15:13.32 | chrholck | Ronin, aha. well, sftp is easier by far .. so ill try that ;-) |
| 15:13.55 | FallOnMe | sshfs rules too. |
| 15:14.35 | FallOnMe | but there's no FUSE on windows. |
| 15:14.57 | Fox_1_ | how can i open *.gz file? |
| 15:15.26 | marcool | Fox_1_: gunzip *.gz |
| 15:15.35 | Fox_1_ | ok |
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| 15:15.47 | Ronin | chrholck: ya pscp foo user@foo is so hard ;) |
| 15:15.49 | marcool | Fox_1_: or if it's actualy *.tar.gz tar -xvvzf *.tar.gz |
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| 15:16.23 | Fox_1_ | marcool, no just gz |
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| 15:16.46 | marcool | Fox_1_: that should do it then "gunzip *.gz" |
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| 15:19.02 | saloxin | zless README.gz is also nice |
| 15:20.11 | petemc | eval $(lesspipe) |
| 15:20.25 | tim_flatus | marcool, thank you. Of course. I had just got to the point where I couldn't see the wood for the trees. |
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| 15:21.10 | js_ | petemc: what is that good for? |
| 15:21.27 | petemc | js_: should make less read gzipped files etc |
| 15:21.44 | js_ | oh, ok |
| 15:21.47 | Knight_Lord | Are there any programs to test the quality of a connection (ethernet between 2 computers? |
| 15:22.03 | petemc | Knight_Lord: iperf, i think |
| 15:22.54 | Knight_Lord | petemc because i seem to have some problems under high network load |
| 15:23.18 | Knight_Lord | petemc IOwait problems on the NFS specially |
| 15:23.37 | petemc | Knight_Lord: oh, well that might be nfs related - i dont use nfs |
| 15:24.04 | dorel_ | i have an apt-get install runing and its taking forever since the link is very slow... can i ctrl+c to stop it? |
| 15:24.10 | petemc | dorel_: yeah |
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| 15:24.28 | peppet | Knight_Lord: start with ping -f -s65000 |
| 15:24.45 | dorel_ | cool |
| 15:24.57 | Razva | question. can I add some sources from the internet in order to stop inserting CDs...? |
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| 15:25.09 | Ronin | Razva: apt-setup |
| 15:25.15 | Razva | ok |
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| 15:25.32 | Razva | isnt't there any "beginners manual" for debian? |
| 15:25.37 | smacnay | Is there a way to put a package on "hold" from command line? With dpkg or ap-get ? |
| 15:25.45 | petemc | smacnay: /msg dpkg hold |
| 15:25.50 | smacnay | petemc: thanks |
| 15:26.23 | peppet | Razva: debian-reference |
| 15:26.23 | Ronin | Razva: manuals and google :) |
| 15:26.30 | tuxedup | I ws hoping someone could help me a second, im trying to compile metabar for debian but it gives me the following error at the end 'configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!' Do I need to install some xorg development package or does it just want to be pointed to the right directory? |
| 15:26.56 | thingfish | Razva: wiki.debian.org might help, too. |
| 15:27.16 | Ronin | what is it also www.tldp.org |
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| 15:28.06 | theBeno | Hey, how can I apt-get install and automaticly install all needed dependancies? |
| 15:28.13 | smacnay | petemc: I am assume there is an oposite to "hold" for --set-selections - I will man dpkg now. |
| 15:28.19 | Ronin | theBeno: yes |
| 15:28.27 | theBeno | Ronin, How? |
| 15:28.39 | peppet | theBeno: apt-get install |
| 15:28.44 | petemc | smacnay: echo pkgname install... i think |
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| 15:28.49 | Ronin | theBeno: apt-get install foo |
| 15:28.54 | smacnay | petemc: opposite is "install" - yes, thanks |
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| 15:29.11 | theBeno | I want it to automaticly fix dependancy problems. |
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| 15:29.41 | Ronin | theBeno: you set up your online sources then apt-get install, does that not work for you? |
| 15:29.45 | smacnay | petemc: seems that my nvidia drivers are updating in "testing" but one is dependent on a version of X not yet here for me. I will hold the nvidia dirvers back for now. |
| 15:30.16 | petemc | smacnay: sounds like a plan... |
| 15:30.19 | Knight_Lord | peppet what's the purpose? |
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| 15:30.22 | smacnay | thanks again... |
| 15:30.29 | theBeno | It says I have broken dependancies. |
| 15:30.40 | theBeno | unmet dependancies |
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| 15:31.24 | Ronin | and apt-get -f perhaps? |
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| 15:31.58 | peppet | Knight_Lord: consider it a very basic stress test |
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| 15:32.06 | Knight_Lord | peppet almost no packets lost |
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| 15:32.33 | Knight_Lord | peppet might just be a kernel problem actually but it shows up in 2.6.12 15 and 16 |
| 15:32.36 | theBeno | -f doesn't work |
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| 15:33.05 | peppet | theBeno: -f install |
| 15:33.12 | petemc | theBeno: what are you trying to install? |
| 15:33.16 | theBeno | nessus |
| 15:33.25 | theBeno | I tried apt-get -f install nessus |
| 15:33.29 | theBeno | Didn't work |
| 15:33.33 | Knight_Lord | theBeno without nessus |
| 15:33.39 | Ronin | theBeno: apt-get -f install no nessus |
| 15:33.42 | cannonball | @ops, the link for the FAQ doesn't work. |
| 15:34.08 | cannonball | debian-faq/wiki/ should be debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 15:36.46 | theBeno | I tried that, it fixed something, but still doesn't work |
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| 15:37.09 | Ronin | guess it would kill thebono to give us all the information at once |
| 15:37.12 | cannonball | A co-worker is spouting that Debian is planning to switch from apt to yum. I call BS on that. Anybody got an authoritative answer? |
| 15:37.29 | Razva | Ronin who's thebono?:P |
| 15:37.33 | Braindead | cannonball: penn and teller are gonna make a show about that |
| 15:37.36 | petemc | cannonball: you're correct, to the best of my knowledge |
| 15:37.52 | Ronin | Razva: my lousy typing mis-spelling thebeno |
| 15:38.02 | cannonball | I'll let him know that he'll soon be on tv then (as the one they make fun of) |
| 15:38.02 | marcool | cannonball: I for one would be surprised ... |
| 15:38.16 | cannonball | thanks all |
| 15:38.16 | Razva | Ronin ok...than who's thebeno?:) |
| 15:39.43 | marcool | Razva: whoever he is he's gone ... |
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| 15:40.35 | Razva | ah, ok :)) |
| 15:40.51 | aiki_ | i deleted a 2.7GB file using winscp on a remote linux machine (ext3) , but if I do a 'df' on that server I don't see any freed up space, any ideas? (the file itself is not visible through ls) - i also ran sync... |
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| 15:41.49 | Razva | hmmm...what version of gcc does debian uses? |
| 15:42.00 | marcool | aiki_: reboot ... it'll have goen |
| 15:42.06 | jla | I just installed perl 5.8.4-8sarge4 and it seems to be breaking apache-perl mod_perl calls to SSLeay and IO::Socket with arch mis-match errors. My searches on this are failing. Has this been reported? |
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| 15:42.18 | dererk | Hi all! |
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| 15:42.20 | dererk | :) |
| 15:42.21 | resident | hello |
| 15:42.27 | marcool | Razva: gcc --version |
| 15:42.29 | dererk | Hi resident |
| 15:42.49 | marcool | dererk: hi dererk |
| 15:42.54 | aiki_ | marcool: any other option? its kinda important. |
| 15:43.00 | resident | i upgraded kernel and after all i thought i will type lilo but it is something else cos lilo doesnt work :S |
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| 15:43.45 | dererk | marcool: Hi ^^ |
| 15:43.50 | marcool | aiki_: well, try an updatedb ... that'll take a while, and then try locate "name of file", it could still be stored somwhere ... |
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| 15:44.04 | wireddd | i'm having some problems getting my second video card to work correctly after a kernel upgrade to 2.6.16. xorg starts and works as expected, except my second monitor shows the picture all messed up. There are some errors in the xorg log but I am not sure what I should do to fix them. the log is here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2433 |
| 15:44.07 | marcool | aiki_: (somthing like a trashcan or somwhat you see where I'm getting ...) |
| 15:44.24 | dererk | Do anyone know a command to concatenate logs by date? |
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| 15:45.26 | dererk | What I need is to add the last activities in one log to a bkp one |
| 15:45.27 | marcool | dererk: what on earth is concatenate ? |
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| 15:45.57 | marcool | dererk: can you clarify ... |
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| 15:46.22 | thingfish | marcool: look it up - it's a word. |
| 15:46.23 | dererk | marcool: yes, I think I'm a mess explaining myself ^^ |
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| 15:46.38 | dererk | thingfish: does it exist in english, right? |
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| 15:46.57 | thingfish | dererk: yes, it does. |
| 15:47.10 | dererk | Great, I'm not inventing new words again XD |
| 15:47.23 | dererk | marcool: What I need is this: |
| 15:47.34 | marcool | thingfish: I guessed it might be english ;-) I just would have liked a less complicated word that's all ! i'm not very good with the language as it is ... |
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| 15:47.42 | marcool | dererk: go ahead ! |
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| 15:47.58 | dererk | I have two files which one of them is the actual logging file on the system |
| 15:48.13 | marcool | ok |
| 15:48.23 | thingfish | marcool: oh, sorry, I didn't realize english wasn't your first language. you can't be blamed for not knowing some of the lesser-used words. |
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| 15:48.43 | marcool | thingfish: thank's for your indulgence ;-) ! |
| 15:48.45 | dererk | and another, which has to hav all the old logs, and have to be tailed the new lines of the Actual logging file |
| 15:48.56 | thingfish | marcool: the 'cat' command is short for contatenate, I believe. |
| 15:49.09 | thingfish | aack concatenate |
| 15:49.13 | wireddd | heh |
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| 15:49.58 | marcool | dererk: can't you right that in a simple bash script |
| 15:50.04 | fatalbert | Hi, is there an upgrade command that will upgrade my kernel to the latest one availiable via apt? |
| 15:50.07 | marcool | dererk: using the file read / wright operations ? |
| 15:50.13 | dererk | marcool: yes, I was above to do that |
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| 15:50.17 | wireddd | do you think my question would be more likely to get answered in #xorg? |
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| 15:50.26 | dererk | I was just wonder if it exists |
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| 15:50.35 | cahoot | dererk: cat file1>>file2 - doesn't do what you want? |
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| 15:51.03 | marcool | wireddd: I don't know, the least I can tell you is you seem to have a very specific problem ... I don't know anyone other than the xorg maintainers can help you there realy |
| 15:51.03 | dererk | cahoot: If I do that, the lines already written are many times |
| 15:51.03 | thingfish | wireddd: worth a shot. |
| 15:51.28 | marcool | dererk: well I don't think it exists, but it'd only be a few lines to write, can't be that complicated |
| 15:51.43 | thingfish | wireddd: all us #debian folks are poor - we can only afford one monitor. ;) |
| 15:51.44 | dererk | marcool: maybe a convination of tail/diff ... I don't know really |
| 15:52.11 | wireddd | I got 2 19" lcds for $500 |
| 15:52.15 | dererk | marcool: Yes, to be more specifically, to add the |
| 15:52.19 | dererk | Newer lines only |
| 15:52.29 | thingfish | wow good price, wireddd. |
| 15:52.32 | marcool | dererk: I'd just use a combination of cat, grep and if ... I think |
| 15:52.54 | dererk | marcool: if what? (:P) |
| 15:52.59 | dererk | marcool: j/k :P |
| 15:53.03 | petemc | dererk: tail -F /path/to/file ? |
| 15:53.07 | marcool | thingfish: herehere ! |
| 15:53.15 | dererk | petemc: let me check |
| 15:53.41 | marcool | petemc: but if two lines get apended real fast, he'll miss one of them with that ... |
| 15:53.51 | petemc | marcool: how so? |
| 15:54.18 | marcool | petemc: well correct me if I'm wrong, but tail only puls the last line out of the file doesn't it ? |
| 15:54.33 | petemc | marcool: tail -F doesnt, no |
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| 15:54.45 | dererk | seems to |
| 15:54.46 | petemc | it keeps it open, updating it dynamically |
| 15:55.02 | petemc | i run tail -F on all my important log files |
| 15:55.08 | petemc | piped through ccze |
| 15:55.24 | marcool | petemc: "tail - F" = same as --follow=name --retry |
| 15:55.32 | marcool | says the manpage |
| 15:55.41 | dererk | petemc: Yes, I understand what you mean |
| 15:55.43 | marcool | petemc: ccze ?!? |
| 15:55.55 | dererk | But doesn't seem to be what I need |
| 15:56.01 | petemc | marcool: right, its like -f , except if the log files gets rotated it follows it |
| 15:56.14 | petemc | marcool: ccze is colorize, in c |
| 15:56.19 | marcool | petemc: right ... got that ! |
| 15:56.42 | marcool | petemc: (got bothe of your statements actualy ...) |
| 15:56.52 | Razva | can you please tell me how can I import an .sql file using bash? |
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| 15:57.12 | marcool | Razva: what do you want to do with the file ? |
| 15:57.21 | petemc | Razva: < |
| 15:57.40 | aiki_ | marcool: tried updatedb and slocate.. nuthin. |
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| 15:58.02 | marcool | aiki_: and the df -h still reads as if the files there ? |
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| 15:58.10 | aiki_ | yep |
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| 15:58.42 | marcool | aiki_: and you're runing this as a graphical system or remotely ? (I think you said remotely but I can't quite remember ) |
| 15:58.44 | Arafangion | What package contains fundamental C documentation? |
| 15:58.46 | trand | what /msg dpkg guildeline |
| 15:58.53 | petemc | Arafangion: manpages-dev , i think |
| 15:58.56 | aiki_ | well i'm ssh'ed into it.. am root. |
| 15:58.58 | trand | huk... sorry. typo. -.-;; |
| 15:59.01 | Arafangion | Thanks petemc |
| 15:59.10 | dererk | lol |
| 15:59.25 | backz | People. Debian can't find my realtek rtl8139d pci, when I run lspci | grep net, it returns 0000:00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Unknown device 1904:8139 (rev 01) |
| 15:59.27 | Razva | I have an .sql file and I wanna import it into my MySQL DBs using a specific username. |
| 15:59.42 | marcool | aiki_: darn ! I was going to sugest somthing like KDirStats |
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| 15:59.52 | marcool | aiki_: but that's bust if you're sshing |
| 15:59.52 | cahoot | backz: might need update pci-ids |
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| 15:59.55 | petemc | Razva: man mysqlimport |
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| 16:00.04 | backz | cahoot, how I do it ? |
| 16:00.27 | marcool | Razva: why do you need bash, can't you manipulate the mysql commandes to get it into the wright place ? |
| 16:00.47 | dorel_ | this is so annoying. |
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| 16:01.02 | marcool | Razva: yeah ... take a look at the manpage (petemc for ya' again !) |
| 16:01.09 | Razva | well I'm using phpmyadmin right now, but that's a little bit anoying because I have to compress every .sql file bigger than 2MB... |
| 16:01.16 | aiki_ | marcool: well anyway ditch that.. i'm rebooting.. this probably is the first time i've had to reboot a linux box for such a simple problem!!! |
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| 16:01.31 | trand | what backup-tool would i use properly on Debian ? small , fast , suitable for desktop |
| 16:01.35 | peppet | Razva: if you have 'create database...' instruction on top of sql file, then mysql < dump.sql |
| 16:01.40 | cahoot | backz: /usr/bin/update-pciids - should do it |
| 16:01.47 | dorel_ | the /usr/src/linux link points to /usr/src/linux-headers-xxx or /usr/src/linux-source-xxx -- why cant there be 2 symlinks to those 2 directories? i find myself deleting it and creating the link again for linux-source i.e |
| 16:02.00 | marcool | aiki_: yeah that's what I would have done first off ... put it's a bit weird though, keep your fingers crossed it'll be ok on startup ... |
| 16:02.28 | cahoot | backz: but of course hard to accomplish without a working net |
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| 16:02.56 | marcool | trand: write a crontab pointing to a bash script ... can't be that complicated |
| 16:03.00 | backz | cahoot, I'm using it from net of motherboard |
| 16:03.28 | backz | cahoot, wget running... up-to-date! but lspci yet returns "Ethernet controller: Unknown device 1904:8139" |
| 16:03.30 | nkuttler | dorel_: what are you trying to do? |
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| 16:04.05 | trand | marcool, is there any backup-tool package ? i like to use tools packaged. |
| 16:04.10 | Razva | peppet ok, thanks |
| 16:04.43 | Razva | huhm, reinstalling a server sure takes time |
| 16:04.57 | dorel_ | nkuttler: im now doing make oldconfig, make include/linux/version.h and then make modules |
| 16:05.00 | Razva | especially when you change distro |
| 16:05.16 | peppet | backz: update-pciids |
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| 16:05.51 | nkuttler | dorel_: you don't need the headers if you have the three you built the kernel with |
| 16:06.24 | finn | when I connect an usb bluetooth dongle (have 2 by now cause I thought the one with broadcom chip might _just not work_ with linux) dmesg says "found new hci device" |
| 16:06.25 | cahoot | backz: http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/pci.ids |
| 16:06.26 | nkuttler | trand: do you have more than one box? |
| 16:06.33 | finn | but lsusb says "only found the usb-hub, the mouse and keyboard connected to it, but nothing else!" |
| 16:06.36 | marcool | trand: try "apt-cache search backup" or somthing |
| 16:06.46 | backz | peppet, /usr/share/misc/pci.ids.new'. Done. lspci yet returns Device not found |
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| 16:08.00 | dorel_ | nkuttler: sorry i didnt understand that. |
| 16:08.46 | peppet | backz: sorry, btw looks an 8139 card |
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| 16:09.10 | backz | peppet, yeah, it is RTL8139D |
| 16:09.21 | trand | hmm... |
| 16:09.26 | peppet | backz: try modprobe 8139too |
| 16:09.30 | trand | marcool, thanks anyway |
| 16:09.41 | marcool | trand: hmm |
| 16:09.44 | marcool | trand: what are you goin' for then ? |
| 16:10.01 | marcool | trand: out of pure curiocity ... |
| 16:10.01 | backz | peppet, lspci yet not found it! |
| 16:10.10 | Razva | folks, I want to switch from php4 to php5. what should I install from http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/ ? |
| 16:10.18 | nkuttler | dorel_: you only need kernel-headers if you use a debian kernel image |
| 16:10.20 | backz | peppet, 8139d works on linux? |
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| 16:11.14 | trand | marcool, just for local backup. /etc, /root, /home/??? |
| 16:11.23 | finn | any ideas? |
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| 16:12.21 | dotmind | h |
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| 16:12.31 | dotmind | hell |
| 16:12.35 | dotmind | hello |
| 16:12.42 | petemc | third time lucky |
| 16:12.43 | dotmind | is anyone here? |
| 16:12.49 | dotmind | yes.. |
| 16:13.01 | blondie | nope |
| 16:13.05 | blondie | channel is closed |
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| 16:13.27 | dotmind | does someon know somethink about mysql character sets? |
| 16:13.37 | jw2328 | trand: I like rdiff-backup. Write a small wrapper script to backup what you want and setup passwordless ssh |
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| 16:13.58 | Azar | backz: I use 8139d and works |
| 16:14.09 | blondie | dotmind: #mysql might c.c |
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| 16:14.22 | backz | Azar, why my sarge can't found it ? |
| 16:14.33 | trand | jw2328, thanks for advice. |
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| 16:14.53 | Azar | backz try modconf and select 8139too module from there |
| 16:15.12 | Azar | backz: if you do not have modconf, install it |
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| 16:15.30 | jw2328 | trand: If you go for rdiff-backup I have a script you could hack |
| 16:15.32 | backz | Azar, ok, installing... |
| 16:16.30 | Azar | backz: after you type modconf you will see a long list, browse it and find under devices what you need |
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| 16:17.46 | backz | Azar, 8139too + RealTek RTL-8139 PCI Fast Ethe |
| 16:17.53 | tombs | hi all |
| 16:17.58 | backz | Azar, is it? |
| 16:19.06 | Azar | yes |
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| 16:20.10 | backz | Azar, lsmod returns 8139too, but lspci yet not found the device. why? |
| 16:20.43 | peppet | backz: forget lspci |
| 16:20.45 | Azar | backz: do you use a second ethernet card? |
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| 16:20.56 | resident | why apt-get finds only old kernels? |
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| 16:21.09 | peppet | backz: can you ifconfig eth0 up? |
| 16:21.17 | Azar | resident: if you use sarge , the highest kernel offered is 2.6.8 |
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| 16:21.39 | Azar | peppet: ifup? |
| 16:21.40 | backz | Azar, I've another embedded on mother board, it is eth0, but I've two rtl8139d |
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| 16:22.26 | resident | Azar what if i would like to have the latest kernel what should i do? besides when i do search for kenel with apt-get it doesn't find 2.6.8 |
| 16:22.30 | backz | peppet, ifup returns it: eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 16:22.42 | Azar | backz: I am a donkey, I would reboot on command line and watch what is loaded |
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| 16:23.24 | Azar | resident: there are two options: first: use backports, second go up with etch and this way you can get the 2.6.15 kernel from etch |
| 16:23.28 | dn4 | http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/57/Cannabis+legalized+in+New+York%21 |
| 16:23.33 | backz | Azar, must I restart the system ? |
| 16:23.53 | Azar | backz: no you do not Must, but I personally like to see what is loaded |
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| 16:24.25 | backz | Azar, okay, I'll reboot this debian box |
| 16:24.26 | lucia | hola alguien abla |
| 16:24.31 | Azar | !es |
| 16:24.31 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:24.44 | resident | Azar how to use backports ? |
| 16:24.53 | Azar | resident: no but you can ask dpkg |
| 16:24.58 | Azar | !backports |
| 16:24.58 | dpkg | it has been said that backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 16:25.41 | resident | hm but backports has only 2.6.8 lkernel |
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| 16:26.30 | Azar | resident: I recently upgraded to etch and I do not see much difference, unless ofcourse you use gnome, kde and other stuff that need major reconfigurations |
| 16:26.51 | Azar | resident: why do you need a higher kernel? |
| 16:26.58 | resident | for security reason |
| 16:27.06 | resident | so you suggest me to use kernel 2.6.8 ? |
| 16:27.23 | Azar | resident: sarge is the most secure for now |
| 16:27.25 | blondie | stable has security updates you know |
| 16:27.29 | Azar | yes 2.6.8 is good |
| 16:27.30 | backz | Azar, system is running! |
| 16:27.30 | nvz | resident: whats insecure about 2.6.8? |
| 16:27.41 | resident | i don't know |
| 16:27.48 | resident | than tell me how to get on my sistem 2.6.8 |
| 16:27.52 | resident | with apt-get doesn't work |
| 16:27.53 | plutonas | resident, even better 2.6.16, I just installed it |
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| 16:27.56 | Azar | I mean I do not see much difference, I do same things on a 2.6.8 as I do on a 2.6.15 |
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| 16:28.11 | azeem | resident: sarge ships 2.6.8 |
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| 16:28.22 | resident | sarge ? |
| 16:28.26 | SlayerXP | minor kernel revision in "doesn't change much" *SHOCKER* |
| 16:28.28 | resident | plutonas how ? |
| 16:28.37 | azeem | resident: Debian stable, aka sarge |
| 16:28.42 | Azar | resident: apt-cache search kernel-image: look for any 2.6.8 line that matches your cpu / then aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8<yourcputype> |
| 16:28.57 | plutonas | resident, are you a newbie? |
| 16:29.04 | resident | with debian yes |
| 16:29.19 | plutonas | If you are, it's better to install 2.6.8 which is precompiled in sarge |
| 16:29.25 | resident | ok |
| 16:29.27 | plutonas | with linux in generall? |
| 16:29.30 | Azar | plutonas: why forcing him on a higher kernel? what is the advantage? |
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| 16:30.01 | Azar | resident: sit with 2.6.8 until you get more experience for a while. is an ok kernel |
| 16:30.10 | nvz | there is no advantage unless 2.6.8 doesnt work on your hardware |
| 16:30.18 | Azar | nvz: right |
| 16:30.31 | plutonas | Azar, best hw-support maybe, fitting to his needs, and learning something |
| 16:30.32 | resident | ok thank you |
| 16:30.44 | resident | for info guys i'll use dpkg -i newversion of kernel |
| 16:31.00 | azeem | resident: apt-get install would be easier |
| 16:31.13 | Azar | nvz: few devices are having issues with a 2.6 kernel be it a 2.6.8 or a 2.6.16 |
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| 16:31.34 | Azar | resident: aptitude works better on dependency issues |
| 16:31.43 | backz | Azar, what's the next step? :) |
| 16:31.45 | plutonas | resident, i agree with azeem |
| 16:31.54 | resident | azeem the problem is when i do apt-get dist-upgrade it says it is up to date |
| 16:31.55 | resident | :) |
| 16:32.02 | Azar | backz: did you find the line that fits your cpu? |
| 16:32.15 | azeem | resident: yes, you need to tell it explicitely to install the new kernel |
| 16:32.18 | plutonas | resident apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8 |
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| 16:32.29 | backz | Azar, where ? |
| 16:32.31 | Azar | resident: stay with me here |
| 16:32.40 | Azar | resident: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 16:32.42 | backz | Azar, dmesg ? |
| 16:32.52 | Azar | err backz |
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| 16:33.01 | Azar | soon Ill talk to everyone :) |
| 16:33.19 | resident | ok Azar i did that command |
| 16:33.21 | resident | apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 16:33.23 | backz | sorry |
| 16:33.26 | Azar | haha |
| 16:33.27 | resident | i got a list of kernels |
| 16:33.35 | kristalino | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.53 | Azar | backz: apt-cache search kernel-image |
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| 16:34.02 | azeem | kristalino: why don't you use debian-installer? |
| 16:34.06 | jeff_hann | hi everybody |
| 16:34.19 | azeem | resident: pick the one which suits your cpu and is 2.6.8 |
| 16:34.28 | kiemcm | does anyone know of any good debian distos (if not, any linux distros) that will install to usb? my HDD has just died :( |
| 16:34.33 | Azar | ok I forgot who wants to install the kernel? backz or resident? |
| 16:34.33 | jair | guys I know is a very easy way to upgrade from sarge to etch |
| 16:34.39 | jair | etch! |
| 16:34.44 | jair | !etch |
| 16:34.45 | dpkg | from memory, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 16:34.45 | jeff_hann | i have read the installation guide,but i couldn't figure out one thing |
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| 16:35.18 | jeff_hann | how can i install only from cd/dvd? |
| 16:35.23 | jeff_hann | without network? |
| 16:35.24 | backz | Azar, I don't want install the kernel. my problem is with 8139d RTL =) |
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| 16:35.37 | jair | ok but what about if I want to upgrade from sarge stable I do not want to install etch from scratch. |
| 16:35.38 | azeem | jeff_hann: download cd1 |
| 16:35.45 | Azar | backz: ah ok did you looked at what was loaded at reboot? |
| 16:35.49 | azeem | jeff_hann: and bypass the network setup |
| 16:35.53 | Azar | or you boot in X directly? |
| 16:35.56 | gemidjy | I get RPC Timeout when mounting NFS mountpoint |
| 16:36.11 | jeff_hann | is that all? |
| 16:36.21 | resident | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 ? |
| 16:36.33 | Azar | resident: are you sure you use a 686 ? |
| 16:36.36 | resident | yes |
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| 16:36.38 | resident | on laptop |
| 16:36.41 | plutonas | yes if you have an x86 mashine |
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| 16:36.47 | jeff_hann | bypass as in skip that step in the installation menu? |
| 16:36.50 | resident | centrion 1.6 |
| 16:36.57 | resident | 1gb rama etc. |
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| 16:36.59 | backz | Azar, yeah... but nothing for my network card. Device not found yet |
| 16:37.00 | Azar | resident: then ok is better to use : aptitude install <kernel here> |
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| 16:37.19 | Azar | backz: type dmesg and look |
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| 16:37.54 | resident | ok Azar |
| 16:38.10 | resident | i did this |
| 16:38.10 | resident | 0x22:/usr/src# aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 :) |
| 16:38.21 | resident | it is installing now |
| 16:38.21 | backz | Azar, there are a lot of things on there. what I must look ? |
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| 16:38.35 | yoo | Hi |
| 16:38.36 | Azar | backz: anything saying D-Link? |
| 16:38.45 | jeff_hann | thanks a lot |
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| 16:39.16 | resident | Azar it says it is done |
| 16:39.19 | resident | that quick ? |
| 16:39.23 | resident | how come |
| 16:39.23 | resident | :) |
| 16:39.31 | azeem | check /boot |
| 16:39.33 | Azar | resident: yes |
| 16:39.48 | Azar | resident: you use lilo bootloader? |
| 16:39.55 | plutonas | resident, it's precompiled, thats why it installs fast |
| 16:39.59 | resident | 0x22:/usr/src# ls /boot/ |
| 16:39.59 | resident | config-2.4.27-2-386 grub initrd.img-2.6.8-2-686 System.map-2.6.8-2-686 vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 16:39.59 | resident | config-2.6.8-2-686 initrd.img-2.4.27-2-386 System.map-2.4.27-2-386 vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 16:40.00 | resident | nice |
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| 16:40.06 | Azar | bummer |
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| 16:40.09 | resident | sorry |
| 16:40.11 | resident | nice |
| 16:40.14 | resident | so now i should reboot ? |
| 16:40.22 | backz | Azar, nothing saying D-Link. |
| 16:40.26 | resident | or there is anything that has to be done more ? |
| 16:40.26 | Azar | resident: you use lilo? |
| 16:40.29 | resident | noup |
| 16:40.36 | Azar | ok then reboot |
| 16:40.44 | yoo | i have a $HOME file in my home directory ! |
| 16:40.45 | yoo | yoo@simpson:~$ ls |
| 16:40.51 | yoo | $HOME .... |
| 16:40.52 | resident | i use that grub |
| 16:40.55 | resident | or how is it called |
| 16:40.56 | resident | :) |
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| 16:41.00 | yoo | simpson:/home/yoo# rm $HOME |
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| 16:41.05 | yoo | rm: cannot remove `/root': Is a directory |
| 16:41.05 | yoo | <c-moi> damned |
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| 16:41.20 | yoo | How solve my problem ? |
| 16:41.22 | Azar | backz: do a lspci and paste it here: http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 16:41.24 | resident | Azar so debian doesn't need grsec itself ? |
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| 16:41.28 | roler | I believe one of gnome applets or a library that one of them uses is crashing my system. I get the error "*** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption: 0x084c7b58 ***" This just started happening yesterday after doing an apt-get update/upgrade in Debian Testing. When I run no applets, my system runs great! What can I do? |
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| 16:41.48 | Azar | resident: you will need to reconfigure your X after reboot... I think |
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| 16:41.59 | resident | auch :) |
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| 16:42.14 | Azar | resident: no biggie: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 16:42.40 | backz | Azar, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2434 |
| 16:42.48 | bipolar | is anyone here using an older 3ware Raid controler? I'm trying to find a utility that will tell me the status of my drives but smartctl and the utilities from the 3ware site don't work. What are you using? |
| 16:42.55 | Nwallins | hi, it appears that my /etc/default/ntpdate is not being considered. running `ntpdate` gives "no servers can be used" whereas `ntpdate -s x.x.x.x` works correctly |
| 16:43.09 | resident | exile@0x22:~$ uname -a |
| 16:43.09 | resident | Linux 0x22.net 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Tue Aug 16 13:22:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 16:43.13 | resident | it works :) |
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| 16:43.19 | resident | heeh |
| 16:43.23 | resident | tnx guys :) |
| 16:43.30 | plutonas | Azar, I don't think X-reconfiguring is needed, It should work |
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| 16:44.21 | Azar | backz: it seesm you are not using the REaltek, but Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller |
| 16:44.32 | Azar | back you should be fine, configure your connection |
| 16:44.48 | Error_X | I have installed my soundcard, but when I try to mpg123 <afile> I get: No default libao drivers available |
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| 16:45.05 | backz | Azar, it is my onboard network controller. isn't ? I'm connect with it now |
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| 16:45.23 | Azar | backz: yes, it seems Sarge picked that one to work with |
| 16:45.33 | Alver | Hello. After upgrading sid to Xorg7, I no longer have the "glxinfo" app. Anyone have a clue on where to get that? |
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| 16:45.45 | Patrick_ | HEY GUYS. |
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| 16:45.48 | Patrick_ | HEY. |
| 16:45.52 | RichiH | HI! |
| 16:45.56 | Patrick_ | Hi!. |
| 16:46.01 | Patrick_ | H! |
| 16:46.05 | Patrick_ | Hi |
| 16:46.06 | Azar | !ops bots around |
| 16:46.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: bots around |
| 16:46.12 | Patrick_ | Azar's a bot! |
| 16:46.16 | RichiH | Patrick_: well, please stop it |
| 16:46.17 | cahoot | Alver: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 (as the topic suggests) |
| 16:46.21 | Patrick_ | Well, what? |
| 16:46.25 | azeem | Azar: bots? |
| 16:46.27 | backz | Azar, it will be a webserver. There are 3 network cards on there. The one is onboard, another 2 is realtek 8139d |
| 16:46.29 | Patrick_ | Ey, Rich. |
| 16:46.33 | Patrick_ | What's the big idea? |
| 16:46.36 | nethenson | I'm planning to install a debian stable in my pc-router, I need to patch the kernel using l7-firewall patches... when a security-update hits stable.... will I be warned, can i automate re-patching, ? |
| 16:46.53 | stew | Patrick_: if you have a debian related question, please ask it, otherwise, please move on |
| 16:46.58 | RichiH | Patrick_: the idea is that this is a debian linux channel and just making fun of people and wasting our time is off topic :) |
| 16:47.04 | Patrick_ | I have a debian-related question. |
| 16:47.09 | Azar | backz my knowledge has its limits: I never tried to build a webserver. |
| 16:47.09 | Alver | cahoot: nothing in there. I edited part of that page |
| 16:47.16 | Patrick_ | Can God make a contract with man? |
| 16:47.33 | azeem | was that it? |
| 16:47.50 | Patrick_ | "was that it?" he said. |
| 16:48.11 | backz | Azar, no problems! thank you for your patience :) |
| 16:48.15 | azeem | Patrick_: sorry, your question has been declared `off-topic' by the committee |
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| 16:48.37 | holo | hi |
| 16:48.41 | holo | i'm having trouble with esound. i can't send audio format to stream. i'm using xmms with plugin and connecting remotly |
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| 16:49.01 | Error_X | I have installed my soundcard, but when I try to mpg123 <afile> I get: No default libao drivers available |
| 16:49.01 | holo | mp3 or wav formats don't work |
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| 16:49.42 | Alver | Ahh, no wonder |
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| 16:49.46 | Error_X | What is libao? |
| 16:49.49 | Alver | glxinfo moved from xbase-clients to mesa-utils |
| 16:49.59 | Error_X | !libao |
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| 16:50.08 | Azar | Error_X: plugins for xmms |
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| 16:50.28 | Error_X | Azar: Huh.. What have mpg123 to do with that? |
| 16:50.54 | Azar | Error_X: some audio formats need additional plugins, like for my s3m files |
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| 16:51.04 | peppet | Azar: try mpg321 ;) |
| 16:51.07 | madclicker | how can i disable all these :http://pastebin.com/683306 interface in sarge? |
| 16:51.11 | azeem | Error_X: libao is an audio abstraction libarry |
| 16:51.18 | Azar | peppet: thank you :) |
| 16:51.24 | madclicker | how can i disable all these http://pastebin.com/683306 interface in sarge? |
| 16:51.32 | Lady_FireStream | hi, just a question: what library package i must install exactly to make ld accept -lGL option? |
| 16:51.40 | Error_X | I've tried mp3 and ogg formats, but it says the same |
| 16:51.49 | kristalino | "/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device" when i try to install a kernel |
| 16:52.08 | Lady_FireStream | i tried with libopengl-perl but it doesn't work |
| 16:52.24 | blakkino | Lady_FireStream, one library that implements opengl.. |
| 16:52.38 | azeem | Error_X: do you use ALSA or OSS? |
| 16:52.46 | cedd | hi this is my first installation of debian on my other pc... via netinst..... now its stuck at the point of requesting some more sources.... where can i get the list of the official debian sarge sources.list |
| 16:52.48 | azeem | maybe you need mpg123 that |
| 16:53.06 | Error_X | azeem: Depends on whats standard with the net-inst.. |
| 16:53.20 | Lady_FireStream | yeah, i looked for that on internet, but the official site confused me :) |
| 16:53.29 | Lady_FireStream | do i need mesa o something like that? |
| 16:53.33 | Error_X | azeem: testing netinst |
| 16:53.42 | blakkino | mesa is one.. but it doesn't use hardware accelleration :) |
| 16:53.51 | azeem | Error_X: lsmod | grep snd, does it yield something? |
| 16:53.58 | Lady_FireStream | :) |
| 16:54.05 | Error_X | azeem: yes |
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| 16:54.17 | azeem | Error_X: something with oss and compat as well? |
| 16:54.19 | Lady_FireStream | what do you suggest me? |
| 16:54.21 | stew | Error_X: do you have snd-pcm-oss loaded? |
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| 16:54.32 | stew | Error_X: if not, load it and try again |
| 16:54.41 | Error_X | I dont like oss. I will use alsa |
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| 16:54.51 | azeem | Error_X: does sound work in general? |
| 16:54.54 | blakkino | Lady_FireStream, 1 moment :) |
| 16:54.55 | stew | Error_X: yes, snd-pcm-oss is alsa |
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| 16:55.06 | Lady_FireStream | no problem :) |
| 16:55.07 | cedd | ... |
| 16:55.08 | azeem | Error_X: then you might just need to figure out how to tell mpg123 to use ALSA instead of OSS |
| 16:55.10 | gpm | hey guys. i have a 400GB external and i'm trying to make one big fat32 on it. i'm stuck in winblows and partition magic won't let me make a partition that fills the whole drive, i have to split it into two. any clues why/how to fix it? |
| 16:55.13 | Error_X | azeem: in general? I havent installed any graphical user interface yet |
| 16:55.21 | blakkino | blakkino mesa is one.. but it doesn't use hardware accelleration :) <- this is not true now |
| 16:55.25 | azeem | Error_X: so no sound at all yet? |
| 16:55.30 | Error_X | Nope |
| 16:55.34 | blakkino | Lady_FireStream, which video card do u have? |
| 16:55.40 | azeem | Error_X: well, then step back a bit |
| 16:55.46 | blakkino | if u have nvidia, then the driver contains also opengl |
| 16:55.53 | madclicker | does anyone know why sarge keeps loading 16 ip1394 eth interfaces on boot? |
| 16:56.02 | azeem | Error_X: I know ogg123 -d alsa *.ogg works |
| 16:56.09 | Lady_FireStream | ok thanx :) |
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| 16:56.14 | Sonderblade | how do you specify a nfs debian mirror as a repository in sources.list? |
| 16:56.19 | blakkino | and this is what i'm using.. if u don't.. then you must install that.. and this will include an opengl implementation.. (based on mesa, it seem) |
| 16:56.21 | azeem | Error_X: eh, ogg123 -d alsa09 *.ogg |
| 16:56.38 | Error_X | azeem: I'll try when kde/xorg is installed (Currently downloading it now) |
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| 16:58.20 | nethenson | I'm planning to install a debian stable in my pc-router, I need to patch the kernel using l7-firewall patches... when a security-update hits stable.... will I be warned, can i automate re-patching, ? |
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| 16:59.01 | stew | madclicker: do you plan to ever use ethernet over firewire? if not just blacklist eth1394; /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 17:00.52 | resident | i am sharing some folder in vmware but i can not see it in linux now :S |
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| 17:01.13 | jethro | resident: vmware isn't supported in #debian |
| 17:01.14 | blondie | resident: huh? |
| 17:01.27 | cedd | hi this is my first installation of debian on my other pc... via netinst..... now its stuck at the point of requesting some more sources.... where can i get the list of the official debian sarge sources.list |
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| 17:01.35 | resident | i am running debian on vmware |
| 17:01.47 | resident | we upgraded kernel 2 minutes before |
| 17:01.52 | Shadowcat | resident: just because you run something on debian doesn't mean it's supported in here |
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| 17:02.00 | resident | i know |
| 17:02.10 | Shadowcat | we can't be expected to support <insert product name here> just because it happens to compile and not segfault on debian |
| 17:02.11 | resident | i though if someone here would now what could cos this problem ?= |
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| 17:02.17 | azeem | cedd: was network configuration successful? |
| 17:02.28 | cedd | sure |
| 17:02.32 | madclicker | stew, thanks |
| 17:02.58 | azeem | cedd: try to hit alt+f2 or alt+f3 (whichever gets you into a shell) and type ping www.google.de |
| 17:03.02 | azeem | or something |
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| 17:03.27 | holo | i'm having esound issues here.. i can't play an audio stream in a remote machine, but i connect to it.. it just doesn't accept the audio |
| 17:03.30 | cedd | network is working well |
| 17:03.38 | Azar | resident: I have no idea about wmware but just for you to know: everytime you upgrade a kernel you need to reconfigure X (not that it has anything to do with vmware) |
| 17:03.38 | azeem | cedd: ok |
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| 17:03.58 | cedd | i ping my provider |
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| 17:04.53 | azeem | cedd: `deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian sarge main' is the official source |
| 17:05.05 | azeem | cedd: where <cc> is your country code, like us uk fr, et.c |
| 17:05.14 | jethro | Azar: why would you need to reconfigure X everytime you upgrade your kernel? |
| 17:05.18 | cedd | ho thats cool thanks :) |
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| 17:05.45 | Azar | jethro: because I had to myself |
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| 17:06.29 | cedd | that should be enough for the installation |
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| 17:06.46 | jethro | Azar: and just because it happened once to you, it means everyone has to do it everytime? |
| 17:06.59 | Azar | jethro: I thought so ? |
| 17:07.11 | jethro | Azar: you are wrong. |
| 17:07.11 | azeem | well, you don't have to |
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| 17:07.29 | RichiH | !es |
| 17:07.30 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:09.00 | tuxedup | im trying to use check install to create a package, the configure went ok and so did make it appers. I have install checkinstall on testing and when i do it as root i recieve the following: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/installwatch.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored, and a few other errors along the same lines any ideas what I should be doing? |
| 17:09.25 | TonyRad | I'm having an issue with my ftp service. I'm using vsftpd. It's set up and configured, it used to work. Then all of a sudden it doesn't work. It looks like I'm unable to find the hostname for some reason.. Any thoughts? |
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| 17:10.29 | ticc | hi there |
| 17:10.37 | TonyRad | Hello |
| 17:11.10 | ticc | i'm trying to convert .bin cd-image to iso |
| 17:11.26 | cblood | anyone know where i can find a virus scanner for debian? |
| 17:11.44 | stew | cblood: clamav |
| 17:11.46 | Ronin | cblood: why? dont need really one |
| 17:11.48 | ticc | both bin2iso and bchunk doesn't work... do i really need "cluefile"? |
| 17:11.48 | eggzeck | cblood, use apt-cache search virus |
| 17:12.02 | cblood | Ronin: I don't ? |
| 17:12.45 | jethro | Ronin: you do, in some cases. |
| 17:12.57 | Ronin | cblood: unless your a mail or file server to windows |
| 17:13.00 | stew | ticc: what does the .bin contain? what does "file /path/to/.bin" say it is? |
| 17:13.16 | eggzeck | cblood, you should find a package called 'clamav' when you search with 'apt-cache search virus' - there are others though :) |
| 17:13.24 | cblood | ok thanks |
| 17:13.43 | Ronin | but if your not serving files cblood theres not a need |
| 17:13.48 | TonyRad | I'm having an issue with my ftp service. I'm using vsftpd. It's set up and configured, it used to work. Then all of a sudden it doesn't work. It looks like I'm unable to find the hostname for some reason.. Any thoughts? |
| 17:13.59 | daddius | anyone good at troubleshooting ssh X problems? |
| 17:14.17 | jethro | daddius: ask your question, if someone can asnwer, he will. |
| 17:14.24 | daddius | k |
| 17:14.35 | stew | daddius: /msg dpkg sshx ; /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 17:14.39 | cblood | Ronin: seems to be a few viri http://clamav-du.securesites.net/cgi-bin/clamgrok?virus=linux&search-type=contains&case-sensitivity=No&database=daily&database=main&display=database&display=virus&.submit=Submit+Query&.cgifields=database&.cgifields=case-sensitivity&.cgifields=search-type&.cgifields=display |
| 17:15.06 | daddius | stew, not sure if this is X or ssh problem |
| 17:15.17 | eggzeck | daddius, just ask |
| 17:15.38 | daddius | well when running with work laptop via cygwin it works just fine... but wen using the debian system it doesn't |
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| 17:15.44 | daddius | i usually call emacs editor |
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| 17:15.57 | daddius | i did the xhost thing |
| 17:16.03 | eggzeck | I still don't see a description of the problem.. anyways i'm out, cya |
| 17:16.11 | stew | daddius: you don't want to use xhost |
| 17:16.17 | daddius | also my DISPLAY variable points in the correct direction |
| 17:16.23 | daddius | stew, why not? |
| 17:16.24 | jethro | daddius: do you have xauth? |
| 17:16.25 | stew | daddius: are you setting it or is ssh? |
| 17:16.38 | stew | daddius: it create unnecessary vulerabilities |
| 17:16.40 | daddius | on the server or client? |
| 17:17.01 | stew | daddius: you need it on both |
| 17:17.10 | daddius | well i wish i could answer totally on xauth |
| 17:17.21 | jethro | daddius: read /msg dpkg sshx, really |
| 17:18.06 | Ronin | cblood: uh huh and how many say in the wild etc, how would you get one etc? |
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| 17:18.18 | nvz | cblood: viri? |
| 17:18.44 | Ronin | nvz: if i understand they think they should have an avp for thier linux box |
| 17:18.45 | daddius | jethro, thanks |
| 17:18.49 | jethro | daddius: you're welcome |
| 17:18.55 | stew | Ronin: on some of my servers, my virus scanners detect 10-20 viruses a day |
| 17:19.04 | stew | Ronin: i don't know why you think he definately doesn't need them |
| 17:19.25 | Kernel-Kris | can someone tell me how to run lilo on a secondary hardrive in a machine ie. ive made an a debian install on a CF and need to make it bootable |
| 17:19.26 | Azar | cool tutorial: A quick and easy intro to writing device drivers for Linux like a true kernel developer! http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/drivers_linux |
| 17:19.49 | cblood | Ronin: I host other people |
| 17:19.54 | cblood | Ronin: I cannot judge their actions |
| 17:20.08 | Ronin | cblood: heh :) |
| 17:21.22 | cblood | all operating systems are vunerable.. |
| 17:21.47 | nvz | heh |
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| 17:21.54 | DaBlade | Hello |
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| 17:22.30 | DaBlade | I've got an annoying problem - Regardless of which browser I use, the sound in Flash is always lagging behind by about a second. Can anyone give me a hand? |
| 17:22.31 | Azar | I guess the more vulnerable application one loads, the better germ field for viruses |
| 17:22.31 | Kernel-Kris | can anyone help me with my lilo problemo |
| 17:22.35 | TonyRad | I'm having an issue with my ftp service. I'm using vsftpd. It's set up and configured, it used to work. Then all of a sudden it doesn't work. It looks like I'm unable to find the hostname for some reason.. Any thoughts? |
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| 17:23.32 | nvz | do yourself and your machine a favor stop viewing flash objects |
| 17:23.43 | vin` | ctrl-alt-F1 stopped working, what could be wrong? |
| 17:23.47 | samuel | sup all |
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| 17:24.31 | samuel | i want to reinstall my entire system... i messed things up bad trying to get xgl running. any way i can use the debs i have stored in /var/apt/cache/ ? |
| 17:24.32 | stew | vin`: check xev and see that ctrl alt and f1 are all mapped to the right keysyms? |
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| 17:25.45 | peppet | vin`: and ctrl-alt-F2 (3...) ? |
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| 17:25.49 | adii | hello |
| 17:26.44 | vin` | peppet: none of those work. |
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| 17:27.46 | jade | is there a webmin module for phpmysqladmin ? |
| 17:27.47 | Rug | Howdy all |
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| 17:28.18 | adii | what can we do against "device is busy" |
| 17:28.39 | nvz | fuser, lsof |
| 17:29.54 | vin` | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2435 does this look right? |
| 17:29.55 | jade | adii, lazy umount |
| 17:29.55 | uwe | hello, does anyone use firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-4 here ? trying to find out if i should file a bug |
| 17:29.55 | adii | how ? |
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| 17:29.55 | DaBlade | Hello, anyone? |
| 17:29.56 | jade | umount /dev/my -l |
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| 17:30.02 | adii | okay thanks |
| 17:30.09 | stew | vin`: yes. |
| 17:30.12 | jade | umount -l /dev/my |
| 17:30.16 | uwe | adii, lsof can tell you what is using what |
| 17:30.17 | stew | vin`: does "chvt 1" as root work? |
| 17:30.33 | adii | okay |
| 17:30.49 | nvz | uwe: mine is 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-3bpo1 which is older *shrug* |
| 17:30.58 | madclicker | which module discovery system does a better impementation for sarge "discover" or "hotplug" ? |
| 17:31.28 | nvz | uwe: whats the issue? |
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| 17:31.52 | uwe | ok nvz , can you check if clicking on switch language "عربي" in http://www.opensource.ps/ just below the login freezes your ff ? |
| 17:32.11 | nvz | @.@ |
| 17:32.24 | stew | madclicker: use both |
| 17:32.32 | uwe | white on green background nvz |
| 17:33.01 | adii | got that error upon changing a file's owner on a user-mounted disk : "chown: changing ownership of `Benabar/B\351nabar integrale - 3 albums + 1 Live.zip': Operation not permitted" |
| 17:33.02 | nvz | no, I am still trying to parse what you typed.. I havent even made it to the url yet |
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| 17:33.41 | jade | adii, sudo chown ? |
| 17:33.50 | adii | was under root |
| 17:33.54 | uwe | or if you face any problems browsing the page |
| 17:34.17 | uwe | hehe, nvz ... just copy past and search in ff for the word |
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| 17:34.53 | uwe | without the double quotes ... if your irc cliet uses utf-8 encoding |
| 17:36.06 | adii | i've got a disk (vfat file system), mounted on /home/smth/disk1 (mounted by normal user) , on which i cannot change ownership of a file even with root priviledges |
| 17:36.39 | stew | adii: vfat doesn't have the concept of ownership |
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| 17:37.18 | adii | is there a way to have all files accessible from a common user ? |
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| 17:37.29 | vin` | stew: yes. |
| 17:37.43 | uwe | adii, vfat doesnt have users |
| 17:37.53 | uwe | its not capable of handling owners |
| 17:38.04 | peppet | adii: mount option umask=0 |
| 17:38.09 | IceTox | I think I've tried like every tip possible, but still I can't get my layout for norwegian.. I'm not able to write the three extra characters (letters) that we have in our langugage, nor does the previous keyboard shortcuts I set while installing work.. Do you guys think about anything I might have missed? I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I've tried editing it with the keyboard manger thingie on the menu. |
| 17:38.16 | stew | adii: /msg dpkg vfatrw ; make it have a 002 umask and mounted by a group containing users that you want to have write privileges |
| 17:38.20 | uwe | or does it ... |
| 17:39.03 | nvz | uwe: where the hell did you get this firefox package you have? |
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| 17:39.22 | uwe | i think from backports |
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| 17:39.32 | uwe | nvz, do you have the same problem? |
| 17:39.39 | Ranpha | Question did somebody got succesfull install of openoffice from backports??? |
| 17:39.48 | stew | uwe: does "dpkg -l firefox" show a version number containing "bpo" at the end? |
| 17:39.56 | uwe | yes Ranpha |
| 17:39.58 | vin` | stew: in case there are bugs filed for this behavior, what package would it be against? |
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| 17:40.06 | nvz | uwe: I am having the problem of knowing why whe are having the same source and different packages |
| 17:40.12 | kimo | Hi everyone, I'd like to work as a remote admin for Linux boxes .. any recommendations! I dont know where to go .. |
| 17:40.12 | nvz | uwe: I am updating now |
| 17:40.13 | adii | one more , easy one: where do i get "uid" and "gid" numbers ? |
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| 17:40.35 | nvz | http://www.backports.org sarge-backports/main firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.2-2bpo1 [Downloaded] |
| 17:40.40 | nvz | current as of right now |
| 17:40.42 | kimo | adii: ls -n |
| 17:40.53 | uwe | nvz, its from testing |
| 17:40.55 | stew | vin`: xserver-xorg, i'd think. you can check bugs.debian.org/src:xorg |
| 17:41.29 | stew | !dbugs 319895 |
| 17:41.32 | dpkg | DONE:#319895:N[xlibs] xlibs: After upgrading to xserver-xorg, Ctrl-Alt-Fn for virtual consoles stopped working.; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:03:02 UTC |
| 17:41.34 | netman1 | How do I go about cracking [become root on] a box that I bought that uses a linux kernel but didn't come with the source? I do have shell access. |
| 17:41.41 | uwe | stew, 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-4 |
| 17:42.04 | stew | uwe: oh you are running testing or unstable then, not stable |
| 17:42.26 | nvz | firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.2-2bpo1_i386.deb 26-Apr-2006 11:47 7.8M |
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| 17:42.34 | Ranpha | UWE: how i'm using the synaptic manager and it get indepence errors |
| 17:42.39 | nvz | directly from the http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/f/firefox/ |
| 17:42.50 | ramiroec | how i can list only the folders ? ls xxx? |
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| 17:43.05 | uwe | Ranpha, just dont select OO base , select each package alone , or install java |
| 17:43.31 | pitillo | ramiroec, man ls |
| 17:44.15 | ramiroec | pitillo: i cant find how to list only the folders |
| 17:44.17 | uwe | ramiroec, ls -d or ls -al | grep ^d |
| 17:44.38 | uwe | ramiroec, i dont think you read the man page |
| 17:44.48 | pitillo | ramiroec, reading a bit the man... I can see in a few lines the answer that uwe told you |
| 17:45.20 | ramiroec | uwe: ok, lets read all the man pages |
| 17:45.30 | uwe | Ranpha, any luck |
| 17:46.04 | Azar | ramiroec: if you want to learn: http://www.linuxcommand.org/ |
| 17:46.05 | uwe | ramiroec, if you use man pages you will be able to find things quickly, just search for the word directory in the man page and it would save you a lot of time |
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| 17:46.13 | Ranpha | Uwe....i slecht the package openoffice.org...and i get errors that writer, calce, aren't avaible... |
| 17:46.29 | IceTox | netman1, you just eject the cdrom, puts in a linux cd and restarts.. Now, reinstall linux :-) I guess you have psysical contact with it as you have indeed bought it? :-) |
| 17:46.31 | ramiroec | Azar : thanks! |
| 17:46.34 | nvz | I am pretty sure that orange light over there blinking is a collision light, and I am the only one on the thing ... seems weird |
| 17:46.53 | uwe | :S Ranpha , try to select only oo writer ... dont you find it alone, skip openoffice.org |
| 17:47.15 | uwe | or better install java and get everything working |
| 17:47.40 | Ranpha | i installed java with the package from java.com......is this okay? |
| 17:48.10 | nvz | uwe: well before I or any firefox developer or maintainer can take this problem seriously, you really should stop using backports, get an official testing source if thats what you are using, and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade because the version of the firefox package _in_ debian etch is newer than yours |
| 17:48.16 | cheal | Ranpha: did you use java-package? |
| 17:48.19 | uwe | Ranpha, i suppose yes |
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| 17:48.40 | stew | Ranpha: did you use java-package? /msg dpkg java-package |
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| 17:48.50 | nvz | uwe: or are you using a testing source now and not backports? |
| 17:49.06 | nvz | uwe: maybe the version I have is backport from sid and you are using the testing version? |
| 17:49.06 | chaedaeX | anyone had an issue with no text in audactiy toolbar, dialoges, and menus? |
| 17:49.17 | uwe | i will, but do you have the same problem ? im using testing , yes, ill try the one form sid and from ff site nightly builds |
| 17:49.28 | stew | nvz: his version matches the current testing version of firefox, so he must be on testing now |
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| 17:50.19 | nvz | stew: yeah I got my numbers mixed up, but mine in sarge/backports is newer as of about noon today 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.2-2bpo1 |
| 17:50.29 | stew | right |
| 17:50.31 | nvz | stew: which is whats in sid not etch |
| 17:51.10 | Timmins | i have a new computer with AMD64 cpu, I want to install a general purpose debian system on it, thinking about the 64 bit version - i read about chroot for 32 bit support, but would you recommend against installing the 64 bit os for a newbie such as myself? |
| 17:51.27 | cheal | Timmins: #debian-amd64 will know better |
| 17:51.33 | Timmins | ok thanks |
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| 17:52.24 | tarzeau | nvz: ugh |
| 17:52.25 | aarkerio | hi! I update to Debian SID and now mc looks awful in gnome-terminal |
| 17:52.34 | tarzeau | aarkerio: can you show a screenshot? |
| 17:52.39 | nvz | tarzeau: what :P |
| 17:52.42 | tarzeau | aarkerio: does mc -a make it better? |
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| 17:52.50 | tarzeau | nvz: your browser... is it good? |
| 17:52.52 | uwe | nvz, so are you getting the same problem or not?! |
| 17:53.04 | nvz | tarzeau: I dont know I am trying to test something :P |
| 17:53.08 | tarzeau | nvz: have you read about the javascript dos of ff? was that fixed already? |
| 17:53.15 | aarkerio | mmm, yes mc -a looks well |
| 17:53.17 | tarzeau | nvz: can i test too, what url? |
| 17:53.21 | tarzeau | aarkerio: ok it's the font then |
| 17:53.27 | tarzeau | aarkerio: what font did you have before? now? |
| 17:53.29 | nvz | tarzeau: I just got the damn package I havent even looked at the changelog yet |
| 17:53.45 | uwe | you cab check if clicking on switch language "عربي" in http://www.opensource.ps/ just below the login freezes your ff |
| 17:53.50 | nvz | tarzeau: /lastlog uwe |
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| 17:54.12 | t35t0r | how do i make a udev rule for multiple DIRECT-ACCESS USB or Firewire drives? |
| 17:54.16 | aarkerio | tarzeau, thanks a lot dude! |
| 17:54.27 | tarzeau | aarkerio: dude, you're welcome :) |
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| 17:55.11 | nvz | uwe: the link in green to the far right that goes to language.php? |
| 17:55.59 | uwe | yes nvz |
| 17:56.19 | nvz | uwe: I seen the page load in the other language then froze up pretty much |
| 17:56.35 | nvz | uwe: gonna attach an strace :P |
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| 17:57.17 | Rug | I am building a firewall, I already have the firewall script, is there an apt-get isntall iptables or something similar I should get? |
| 17:57.25 | tarzeau | Rug: yes |
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| 17:57.42 | Ranpha | ...heheh i need to figure out how to get jaa-package..doesn't extist in my packpages list |
| 17:57.42 | Rug | tarzeau: what? =) |
| 17:57.42 | nvz | no problem, all I can do with firefox is shade the window its otherwise gone.. I cant see anything but the titlebar and frame that sawfish provides me with |
| 17:57.52 | tarzeau | Rug: apt-get install iptables |
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| 17:57.59 | nvz | its no longer responding, went out to lunch |
| 17:58.03 | Rug | anything else? |
| 17:58.17 | uwe | nvz, exact symptoms here |
| 17:58.18 | Rug | ssh installed by default? |
| 17:58.21 | tarzeau | Rug: that's it |
| 17:58.25 | Rug | thanks |
| 17:58.46 | tarzeau | Rug: no ssh is not default afaik |
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| 17:58.55 | nvz | uwe: futex(0x40b9e900, FUTEX_WAIT, 2, NULL |
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| 17:59.15 | Rug | ok thanks, I'd hate to drop the box off, drive home and have forgotten a few dumb things |
| 17:59.28 | tarzeau | say i have this sed 'n;s,tr,tr bgcolor="#fde3ea",' it works on every 2nd line starting from the 2nd. can i put the n; at the end and it'll start from the 1st ? |
| 17:59.33 | nvz | uwe: thats where I am hung in strace gonna have to kill it and attach strace to a new ff process and try again, cause I got nothing on that one-liner |
| 18:00.13 | tarzeau | tarzeau: yes perfect |
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| 18:00.50 | uwe | thanks nvz, ill be downloading newer versions of ff ASAP |
| 18:00.52 | nvz | uwe: I sent it a Ctrl-Alt-Button1 which kills the client and the process is still hung in strace doesnt seem to have caught any signals |
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| 18:01.13 | Eclipser | umm |
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| 18:01.18 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 18:01.18 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 18:01.23 | Ranpha | can somebody give me a good package ftp server??? |
| 18:01.28 | nvz | This is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/Debian-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.2-2bpo1 Firefox/1.5.0.2 current on sid/backports as ov this morning |
| 18:01.31 | tarzeau | Ranpha: vsftpd |
| 18:01.41 | Eclipser | where's the dev files for nvidia opengl? it seems mine is broken somehow |
| 18:01.47 | Eclipser | (in etch?) |
| 18:01.48 | nvz | uwe: same version as backports.org or sid |
| 18:01.49 | tarzeau | Eclipser: /usr/include ? |
| 18:01.59 | nick|here | i want to boot my old laptop from floppy and install debian into it over ethernet. which floppy image should i download? |
| 18:02.08 | Ranpha | I mean where a good ftp server is to download debian package,,,,, |
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| 18:02.16 | tarzeau | Ranpha: what country are you? |
| 18:02.19 | Eclipser | tarzeau, I mean, my programs compile fine but they apparently link somehow wrongly and thus won't work |
| 18:02.26 | uwe | ill try to get a newer one nvz |
| 18:02.31 | tarzeau | Ranpha: http://www.us.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 18:02.36 | Ranpha | Netherlands but i'm downloading from surfnet and there they don't have java-package |
| 18:02.42 | tarzeau | Eclipser: which programs are that? |
| 18:02.56 | tarzeau | Ranpha: maybe you miss contrib/non-free in your sources.list ? |
| 18:03.00 | tarzeau | Ranpha: java-package is not in main |
| 18:03.01 | Eclipser | tarzeau, my nehe tutorials, very simple opengl stuff |
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| 18:03.13 | tarzeau | Eclipser: are they public? if so url? |
| 18:03.21 | nvz | uwe: clicking on firefox after killing the process with a kill and the window dissapearing I get a dialog that tells me firefox is running but not responding and I need to close the existing process. so I am still gathering info but its looking like a bug report comming on for sure |
| 18:04.09 | nick|here | i want to boot my old laptop from floppy and install debian into it over ethernet. which floppy image should i download? |
| 18:04.12 | Eclipser | tarzeau, hold on |
| 18:04.39 | tarzeau | Eclipser: k |
| 18:04.45 | tarzeau | nick|here: i386 laptop i guess? |
| 18:04.51 | zamaliphe | any one know this eroor |
| 18:04.52 | zamaliphe | klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'. |
| 18:04.52 | tarzeau | nick|here: the i386 boot and root floppies at least |
| 18:04.54 | nick|here | tarzeau, yes |
| 18:05.00 | tarzeau | !floppies |
| 18:05.15 | tarzeau | zamaliphe: when you do what? |
| 18:05.24 | uwe | nvz, will upgrade to sid and confirm |
| 18:05.43 | nick|here | tarzeau, i want to install over the net should i download net drivers? |
| 18:05.47 | vin` | nick|here: /msg dpkg sarge bf |
| 18:05.49 | Eclipser | tarzeau, http://www.saunalahti.fi/~jukka712/ogl/ |
| 18:06.03 | Eclipser | tarzeau, yes I know they're over-abstracted :> |
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| 18:06.40 | zamaliphe | tarzeau: when opening konquror |
| 18:06.55 | zamaliphe | the full error is |
| 18:07.13 | nick|here | vin`, thanks |
| 18:07.45 | Eclipser | tarzeau, they compile and link fine but when I run them they won't print out the opengl driver name and just give me blank screen with 100% cpu usage |
| 18:07.49 | tarzeau | Eclipser: it's fine, can you make a tarball? |
| 18:07.55 | zamaliphe | #flood |
| 18:07.55 | zamaliphe | An error occurred while loading http://arabian.arabicos.com/: |
| 18:07.55 | zamaliphe | Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: |
| 18:07.55 | zamaliphe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:07.57 | Eclipser | ah heh, ok :) |
| 18:07.59 | tarzeau | Eclipser: i'll then try them here and try to help |
| 18:08.10 | tarzeau | nick|here: net drivers are for nics |
| 18:08.13 | Eclipser | if you could remind me again, how to? :) |
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| 18:08.22 | tarzeau | nick|here: you might need them, not necessarily though |
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| 18:08.29 | davidu | anyone here ever netboot amd64? |
| 18:08.32 | tarzeau | Eclipser: certainly, tar cf the.tar.gz . |
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| 18:08.43 | tarzeau | davidu: probably, what's the question? using pxe? |
| 18:08.46 | nvz | uwe: ok its not freezing until after you do something, if I open a new firefox and attach strace to it while the crash recovery dialog is up and ff is shaded, its fine. it loads the page, but as soon as you scroll a few lines it freezes and I noticed it caught a signal 11 after calling gettimeofday() and it like hangs right there where it did before "unlink("/home/nvz/.mozilla/firefox/h7f6w1nc.default/lock") = 0 \n futex(0x40b9e900, FUTEX_WAIT, |
| 18:08.52 | tarzeau | davidu: i do, but with the i386 kernels |
| 18:08.58 | davidu | tarzeau: I have pxeboot+preseed all working on i386 kernels |
| 18:09.04 | tarzeau | davidu: same here |
| 18:09.06 | davidu | tarzeau: but can't get the amd64 netboot debian-installer to work |
| 18:09.14 | davidu | tarzeau: it seems like it wasn't compiled with any drivers |
| 18:09.17 | tarzeau | davidu: oh. then i don't know |
| 18:09.28 | nvz | uwe: gonna test other things like not scrolling but accessing menus..etc see what will and will not cause the problem while examining the tail of the strace in more detail |
| 18:09.30 | davidu | tarzeau: or at least, none of the main ones. you'd think it'd have the same as the i386.... |
| 18:09.37 | tarzeau | davidu: we have d-i patched for our hardware (mainly nics and sata/scsi stuff) |
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| 18:09.48 | tarzeau | davidu: try bts or #debian-boot (reading) |
| 18:09.51 | davidu | tarzeau: I have done that on i386, I'd like to avoid it on amd64 |
| 18:09.51 | t35t0r | this is the stupidest thing ever ...i can't find any articles online to figure out how to setup udev to automount any direct-access usb or firewire device!!! |
| 18:10.02 | davidu | tarzeau: debian-boot is idle. but yeah, posted. |
| 18:10.08 | zamaliphe | tarzeau do you have any idea |
| 18:10.13 | Eclipser | tarzeau, www.saunalahti.fi/~jukka712/ogl.tar.gz |
| 18:10.22 | tarzeau | zamaliphe: no sorry, but try #debian-kde ? |
| 18:10.27 | nvz | I may find that this is more simple than I think |
| 18:10.47 | tarzeau | Eclipser: thanks. is saunalahti some large isp in .fi? |
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| 18:11.05 | Eclipser | tarzeau, mh, one of the three largest I think |
| 18:11.47 | tarzeau | Eclipser: what's good night in finnish? |
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| 18:11.56 | t35t0r | everywhere i look it always needs a SYSFS{model} ..well i don't know what model a user is going to come by with and stick into the machine ..i need a UNIVERSAL udev rule for all usb/firewire devices |
| 18:12.26 | Eclipser | tarzeau, hyvää yötä |
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| 18:12.44 | tarzeau | Eclipser: ouch, lesson01 is very strange when run |
| 18:13.02 | tarzeau | Eclipser: stays black. sound stops for a second, works for another second [repeat] |
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| 18:13.10 | tarzeau | Eclipser: what is it supposed to draw? |
| 18:13.12 | Eclipser | well lesson01 IS a blank screen :> |
| 18:13.21 | Azar | Eclipser: was E.W. Dijsktra finnish? |
| 18:13.28 | tarzeau | Eclipser: i don't think you forgot to link, it's some other strange problem |
| 18:13.31 | Eclipser | lesson02 should draw a white triangle and square |
| 18:13.48 | Eclipser | Azar, never heard |
| 18:13.59 | Eclipser | Azar, sounds like russian though :) |
| 18:14.03 | tarzeau | Eclipser: it draws them, but sound should not be affected (which is played in background) |
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| 18:14.13 | tarzeau | Eclipser: there's something really bad about your code, but i don't know what |
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| 18:14.43 | Eclipser | it just while(true) 's until ESC is pressed :) |
| 18:14.46 | tarzeau | Eclipser: lesson05 is fine |
| 18:14.56 | tarzeau | Eclipser: throw some usleep(1); in the main loop? |
| 18:15.08 | Eclipser | where's that defined? |
| 18:15.12 | tarzeau | Eclipser: no lesson05 runs fine. mouse outside window stops? |
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| 18:15.20 | Eclipser | yes that's how it's supposed to be |
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| 18:15.29 | Eclipser | unistd.h it seems |
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| 18:15.32 | tarzeau | Eclipser: i like the rainbow pyramid |
| 18:15.41 | Azar | Eclipser: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/welcome.html |
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| 18:15.59 | mcgreg | I have a strange problem here. df -h says I have 10GB/14GB used. but when I calculate it manually (all folder in root) I have 5,7GB roughly . has anyone an idea? |
| 18:16.12 | ifvoid | mcgreg: lots of small files? |
| 18:16.17 | tarzeau | mcgreg: is it alot of files? |
| 18:16.20 | tarzeau | mcgreg: what filesystem? |
| 18:16.28 | mcgreg | 163k files |
| 18:16.32 | mcgreg | using ext3 |
| 18:16.34 | ifvoid | hmm |
| 18:16.37 | tarzeau | mcgreg: inode size? |
| 18:16.41 | tarzeau | 4k probably |
| 18:16.44 | DevilChaos | hi anyone know if the uk ftp mirror of debian.org is down at the moment keep getting errors while updating |
| 18:16.46 | DevilChaos | ? |
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| 18:16.55 | Eclipser | tarzeau, well, I put usleep(1) in lesson02, ran make and it linked fine too, I just get a blank screen... I think there's something wrong with my installation :> |
| 18:17.00 | tarzeau | DevilChaos: check the mirror status page at www.debian.org ? |
| 18:17.04 | mcgreg | tarzeau: inode size = block size? dunno, how do I chck it? |
| 18:17.10 | alch0405 | has anyone in here *sucessfully* gotten an ltmodem to work properly? |
| 18:17.12 | tarzeau | Eclipser: nvidia? |
| 18:17.14 | ifvoid | so that's >10k per file |
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| 18:17.16 | Eclipser | tarzeau, yeah |
| 18:17.17 | tarzeau | Eclipser: do other 3d games work? |
| 18:17.23 | tarzeau | Eclipser: works fine here. what x version? |
| 18:17.26 | Eclipser | nwn works, but I haven't linked it myself |
| 18:17.30 | ifvoid | alch0405: I haven, in the distant past |
| 18:17.32 | uwe | nvz, #firefox on mozilla.org claim that packages from mozilla.org dont have this problem |
| 18:17.34 | Eclipser | xorg 6.something, whatever is in etch |
| 18:17.44 | tarzeau | Eclipser: it must work |
| 18:18.16 | alch0405 | ifvoid, I have gotten the init commands to return OK, but I can't dial due to "no dialtone" |
| 18:18.21 | nvz | uwe: couldnt tell you but either way the one in sid needs fixed so backports can be fixed, and etch can have a working firefox 1.5.0.2 |
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| 18:18.35 | ifvoid | alch0405: are you sure that you do have a dialtone on the line? |
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| 18:18.48 | mcgreg | how do I check inodes pls? |
| 18:18.57 | alch0405 | ifvoid, yeah i can call out with the fax machine next to me |
| 18:19.05 | alch0405 | ifvoid, using the same line |
| 18:19.05 | Eclipser | tarzeau, I was wondering if I could reacquire the libGL linkage stuff from somewhere, to see if they're corrupted or something |
| 18:19.07 | ifvoid | uh yeah |
| 18:19.17 | ifvoid | but are you sure your cable is ok? |
| 18:19.28 | uwe | nvz, ok, confirming the problem in sid too |
| 18:19.34 | alch0405 | ifvoid, yes, using the same cable and everything |
| 18:19.34 | nvz | uwe: I am still monkeying around with the one I got.. got ff process on the main page shaded pid 7000 with strace attached and less -S +F attached to the output file and just letting it idle while I think |
| 18:19.45 | DevilChaos | pastebin.com/683468 |
| 18:19.49 | ifvoid | alch0405: hmm, weird |
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| 18:20.02 | ifvoid | alch0405: maybe you need some different init string then |
| 18:20.08 | Ranpha | Uwe: i installed java witj java-package ..now what i do??? |
| 18:20.29 | alch0405 | ifvoid, know of any good resources for that, google hasn't gotten me anywhere |
| 18:20.40 | ifvoid | no idea, sorry |
| 18:20.41 | uwe | Ranpha, still having trouble installing OO ? |
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| 18:20.53 | Ranpha | Yes .... |
| 18:21.06 | alch0405 | ifvoid, thanks anyway |
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| 18:21.42 | Ranpha | do i need to use the backports one???? |
| 18:21.49 | Ranpha | Uwe: do i need to use the backports one???? |
| 18:22.39 | dondelelcaro | Ranpha: are you using stable? Do you want oo.o 2 or 1.2? |
| 18:22.48 | nvz | uwe: it catches a signal 11 just scrolling down the main page you gave me a link to |
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| 18:23.07 | nvz | uwe: dont even need to hit that link |
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| 18:23.19 | Quibus | Hi, do I want resmgr? |
| 18:23.26 | nse | My computer is working with one memory chip but when I connect another one the computer do not boot (power led on, hdd led off). When I use only the second chip i get three beeps and no boot. What is my problem? |
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| 18:24.14 | alch0405 | nse, are the chips the same type, or are they differant (ex. 128MB & 512MB) |
| 18:24.43 | brianski_werk | howdy. can someone point me at the best way to build a debian installer with a custom kernel? |
| 18:24.47 | madclicker | stew, but than i would have to blacklist the module for both hotplug and discover |
| 18:24.51 | alch0405 | nse, reason i ask - some motherboards require that chips be "paired" if multiple chips are used |
| 18:25.00 | nse | alch0405: different. they are DDR, 128MB and 256MB(crap one) |
| 18:25.02 | t35t0r | how do i make a udev rule for multiple direct-access USB or Firewire drives? |
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| 18:25.17 | dondelelcaro | nse: 3 beeps generally means that you don't have any ram at all. |
| 18:25.24 | Ranpha | dondelelcaro: Yes using stable and want OO 2 |
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| 18:25.34 | dondelelcaro | Ranpha: then you need oo.o from backports.org |
| 18:25.44 | uwe | nvz, should it be filed for debian & firefox or only debian? |
| 18:25.51 | alch0405 | nse, you might check with the mobo manufacturer to see if chips of diff. sizes can be used together in that board. - or chip#2 might be bad. |
| 18:25.51 | Ranpha | dondelelcaro: okay but that won't install |
| 18:26.07 | dondelelcaro | !tell Ranpha -about bat |
| 18:26.07 | nse | dondelelcaro: that means that this second ship is completely broken? |
| 18:26.11 | dondelelcaro | Ranpha: follow those instructions |
| 18:26.18 | nvz | uwe: well if the people in #firefox say it doesnt happen and you havent confirmed it with the upstream code, then dont file it on their bts |
| 18:26.19 | dondelelcaro | nse: or you haven't seated it right, or... |
| 18:26.32 | madclicker | do i need to have both "discover1" and "hotplug" installed on my system? |
| 18:26.35 | madclicker | sarge |
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| 18:26.41 | nvz | uwe: I am still narrowing it down I dont bother filing reports I cant properly explain |
| 18:26.43 | Ranpha | !tell Ranpha -about bat |
| 18:26.46 | dondelelcaro | uwe: it's always appropriate to file it against firefox in Debian, and let the maintainer forward it if they fell its apporpriate. |
| 18:27.07 | laludelala | Hallo! |
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| 18:27.19 | Quibus | Can someone explain to me what resmgr is good for? |
| 18:27.20 | Ranpha | dondelelcaro: !tell Ranpha -about bat ???? |
| 18:27.23 | Daveman | Hello, dondelelcaro. |
| 18:27.28 | nvz | uwe: if it happens scrolling that page, or loading the other.. it may be a certain string of chars its choaking on I am going to compile straces of both scenarios and any other I can imagine, and compare to find the common link |
| 18:27.34 | dondelelcaro | Ranpha: see what dpkg (the bot) told you. |
| 18:27.41 | laludelala | I just wanted to ask what happened to Fetchmail? It is not part of "testing" any more? |
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| 18:28.15 | ifvoid | laludelala: seems that way, yes |
| 18:28.29 | dondelelcaro | laludelala: it has RC bugs, and so it was removed from testing, because no one has fixed them. |
| 18:28.32 | Eclipser | how do I check which package a file belongs to again? |
| 18:28.41 | nse | alch0405: but they were working. I onpened the case to connect another hard disk and the second chip stopped working, i thought that the slow was caused by a bad IDE configuration.. |
| 18:28.43 | dondelelcaro | Eclipser: dpkg -S |
| 18:28.50 | ifvoid | Eclipser: dlocate |
| 18:29.00 | laludelala | dondek, "RC" bugs? "Remote Code"? |
| 18:29.06 | dondelelcaro | laludelala: release critical. |
| 18:29.07 | ifvoid | laludelala: release critical |
| 18:29.14 | spanglesontoast | does anyone know much about the eggdrop issue with debian |
| 18:29.20 | laludelala | ah, ok ... |
| 18:29.24 | dondelelcaro | spanglesontoast: just ask your question. |
| 18:29.27 | ifvoid | "the eggdrop issue"? |
| 18:29.57 | uwe | nvz, could you summerize the steps you did for narrowing it down, id like to try do it myself too |
| 18:30.06 | nvz | uwe: all I know right now is something about that url(s) are causing it to catch a sigsegv and it tries to clean up and exit but it ends up going to sleep usually caught in a wait loop |
| 18:30.19 | Eclipser | tarzeau, my libGL.a comes from xlibmesa-gl-dev package, is that a problem? :) |
| 18:30.20 | spanglesontoast | it wants tcl8.4 |
| 18:30.25 | spanglesontoast | I installed it |
| 18:30.30 | spanglesontoast | it still wants it |
| 18:30.37 | dondelelcaro | spanglesontoast: uh... why aren't you using the eggdrop package in Debian? |
| 18:30.48 | spanglesontoast | I am |
| 18:30.58 | dondelelcaro | !tell spanglesontoast -about bat |
| 18:31.13 | dondelelcaro | spanglesontoast: give us that output for eggdrop, tcl8.4 and whatever else shows up. |
| 18:31.14 | Eclipser | dondelelcaro, ifvoid, thanks |
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| 18:31.59 | spanglesontoast | [19:31] Can't load modules dns: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:32.04 | Ranpha | dondelelcaro: because i'm chatting on a different computer it's a bit hard to ouput the file here but the aopt-get says that it need several package that it won't install |
| 18:32.13 | nvz | uwe: everytime you send firefox a signal 9 it dies and you restart it you get that recovery dialog, right then I open a terminal and attach an strace to it "strace -o ffcrash01 -p 7000" or whatever the process id is, and then I proceed to make it crash and I have a log of how it crashed and what happens |
| 18:32.29 | ifvoid | spanglesontoast: do you have /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so ? |
| 18:32.30 | dondelelcaro | Ranpha: kick it to a file, and stick it online. |
| 18:32.40 | spanglesontoast | let me check |
| 18:32.50 | ifvoid | I only have .so.0 here |
| 18:32.57 | laludelala | dondelelcaro, so I should not use fetchmail any more (taking the package of "stable" is possible, but maybe not nice) - what alternatives can you tell me of? apt-cache tells me some programs, the most similiar is "getmail4" - is that good? |
| 18:33.10 | dondelelcaro | laludelala: you can still use it, it just has an RC bug. |
| 18:33.11 | spanglesontoast | that's the file I have |
| 18:33.17 | spanglesontoast | weird |
| 18:33.18 | nvz | uwe: I am going to make logs of it crashing on various pages like scrolling down that main page, or clicking that link, and try look for similar occurances other than the sigsegv searching for what caused that signal |
| 18:33.32 | dondelelcaro | spanglesontoast: what does dpkg -l eggdrop; say? which dns module is this? |
| 18:33.33 | ifvoid | spanglesontoast: so that's a bug in eggbot then |
| 18:33.40 | ifvoid | spanglesontoast: the .so is in the -dev package |
| 18:33.41 | nvz | uwe: then when I exaust my efforts, I send a shit load of information to the bts :P |
| 18:33.43 | Ranpha | gotta go cya |
| 18:33.51 | ifvoid | spanglesontoast: it should dlopen to .so.0 |
| 18:34.02 | laludelala | dondelelcaro, thx |
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| 18:34.43 | dondelelcaro | ifvoid: it's linked to 8.4.so.0 so it shouldn't need to dlopen it at all... |
| 18:34.54 | ifvoid | dondelelcaro: ah |
| 18:35.07 | dondelelcaro | indeed, my copy of 1.6.7-3 has no such problem... |
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| 18:35.39 | HelmutG | Is there a preinstalled sarge image for usage with qemu (so I don't have to install by myself)? |
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| 18:36.03 | spanglesontoast | 1.6.17-3 |
| 18:36.06 | spanglesontoast | yea same version |
| 18:36.10 | spanglesontoast | or |
| 18:36.12 | ifvoid | HelmutG: can't you just use debootstrap? |
| 18:36.13 | spanglesontoast | oh |
| 18:36.16 | dondelelcaro | HelmutG: just use debootstrap |
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| 18:36.31 | ifvoid | dondelelcaro: hehe |
| 18:36.43 | laludelala | q |
| 18:37.05 | uwe | nvz, would you be interested in build optins used to build ff that crashes on non- debian ? |
| 18:37.32 | HelmutG | ifvoid, dondelelcaro: My point is: Someone else will need to do that, because I don't have a disk and where I go we don't have internet, so some guy get's all the files I need. |
| 18:37.54 | nvz | uwe: nope :P |
| 18:37.57 | ifvoid | HelmutG: well, just make a chroot, tar it, and put it on a cd |
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| 18:38.23 | nvz | uwe: someone who builds source and understands that crap might |
| 18:38.27 | HelmutG | ifvoid: Good point, CDs are portable, too. :) |
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| 18:38.30 | unstable | HelmutG: That would be silly |
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| 18:38.39 | unstable | HelmutG: Not everyone would install what you would install. |
| 18:38.59 | HelmutG | unstable: only a simple unconfigured sarge system. |
| 18:39.15 | tarzeau | Eclipser: i don't know |
| 18:39.15 | unstable | HelmutG: sarge can't exist if it isn't configured |
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| 18:39.33 | unstable | HelmutG: You could do a base install from a a net install, but you'd still be asked questions with dialogue |
| 18:39.44 | ifvoid | HelmutG: I doubt all you want is just the base system |
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| 18:40.12 | HelmutG | ifvoid: I've got a debian mirror with me. |
| 18:40.45 | dondelelcaro | HelmutG: if you've got a debian mirror, what's the problem? |
| 18:40.52 | dondelelcaro | HelmutG: just point debootstrap at it |
| 18:41.33 | HelmutG | dondelelcaro: qemu isn't that fast. |
| 18:41.50 | dondelelcaro | HelmutG: yes, I know... but it's going to be slow whatever it does. |
| 18:42.00 | ifvoid | HelmutG: yeah, but you would use debootstrap outside qemu |
| 18:42.09 | ifvoid | wouldn't you? |
| 18:42.22 | nse | I am running debian etch with xorg and gnome. my upper memory is 97MB, it's working on the limit. when i run a lot of programs the computer freezes. is this freeze normal when you work on the limit like me, or my memeory is dying? |
| 18:42.23 | dondelelcaro | that really depends on the arch, I guess. |
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| 18:42.37 | dondelelcaro | nse: it just means that you're swapping. |
| 18:42.45 | dondelelcaro | nse: it's not really a big deal. |
| 18:43.02 | HelmutG | ifvoid: hum. I'd use a preseed file to be honest. |
| 18:43.24 | ifvoid | hmm, ok |
| 18:43.31 | ifvoid | I've never used qemu |
| 18:43.35 | HelmutG | ifvoid: The point with the CD is ok for me, thanks. :) |
| 18:43.48 | ifvoid | I assumed you'd just make a chroot and then run qemu in there |
| 18:43.57 | HelmutG | ifvoid: oh wait, does iso support sparse files? |
| 18:44.12 | HelmutG | ifvoid: qemu needs disk images. |
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| 18:44.38 | ifvoid | HelmutG: well, just make an ext2 of xfs or whatever image, and but that to the cd |
| 18:44.40 | nse | dondelelcaro: okay, i will buy 512 ffs! |
| 18:44.49 | ifvoid | HelmutG: possible compressed |
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| 18:45.41 | HelmutG | thanks. |
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| 18:45.45 | mejo | is it ok to start (stop) an initscript twice in the boot (halt) process? |
| 18:45.48 | mejo | or is it better to source the same shell script in two different init scripts? |
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| 18:46.05 | ifvoid | mejo: uh, shouldn't matter I guess |
| 18:46.09 | mejo | is a question about packaging. |
| 18:46.12 | ifvoid | but why would you want to do that? |
| 18:46.15 | mejo | ifvoid: even in a debian package. |
| 18:46.37 | mejo | ifvoid: for the cryptsetup debian package. it needs to initialize encrypted disks before and after lvm, evms, ... startup. |
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| 18:46.47 | ifvoid | ah |
| 18:46.50 | uwe | nvz, you also get "double free or corruption" ? |
| 18:47.07 | mejo | ifvoid: i think i take the second way, running two different initscripts which source the same includefile. |
| 18:47.15 | ifvoid | mejo: are the scripts exactly identical? |
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| 18:47.17 | mejo | ifvoid: i guess that this is how udev does it too. |
| 18:47.32 | ifvoid | mejo: yeah, but mount just uses seperate scripts, iirc |
| 18:47.40 | ifvoid | for nfs, virtual and disk |
| 18:47.41 | mejo | ifvoid: no, if i use two, i change at least the output to "early cryptdisks" and "late cryptdisks". |
| 18:47.49 | mejo | ifvoid: but yes, they do exactly the same. |
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| 18:48.13 | ifvoid | I guess the best way would be to include the common functions then, indeed |
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| 18:48.39 | brianski_werk | ski@devel:~$ sudo apt-get update |
| 18:48.39 | brianski_werk | Err http://debian.csail.mit.edu testing/main Packages |
| 18:48.39 | brianski_werk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:48.54 | brianski_werk | anyone know what that means? i can get it just fine on another box... so a bit confused... and it gets Releases, etc. just fine ? |
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| 18:48.58 | mejo | ifvoid: mount doesn't matter. both cryptsetup scripts will be run after checkroot.sh, and before checkfs.sh |
| 18:49.05 | madclicker | can someone help with these http://pastebin.com/683520 ? |
| 18:49.06 | mejo | ifvoid: yes, thanks |
| 18:49.09 | ifvoid | brianski_werk: probably means the mirror admin fucked up |
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| 18:49.29 | brianski_werk | ifvoid - but why would it work on another machine? |
| 18:49.45 | ifvoid | maybe the other machine is behind a proxy? |
| 18:49.54 | mcgreg | is ... fsck.ext3 -D safe? |
| 18:50.01 | ifvoid | or the mirror serves them in another way? |
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| 18:50.18 | ifvoid | madclicker: what is that? |
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| 18:52.11 | mmInd__ | Does anyone know if you can make dpkg follow symbolic links? |
| 18:52.57 | mmInd__ | I just want a subset of things from a build, so I create links to the directories, but dpkg --build just includes the links. |
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| 18:53.44 | brianski_werk | ifvoid - same thing with another mirror, hrm |
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| 18:57.01 | Nwallins | after installing ntp, do i need to explicitly schedule ntpdate? or should i run the ntp daemon? |
| 18:57.51 | skrewz | Nwallins: For most purposes `aptitude install openntpd` Just Works(tm). |
| 18:57.51 | ifvoid | Nwallins: those are 2 seperate things |
| 18:58.14 | Nwallins | ifvoid: i don't want to run a server. only to keep clock reasonably sync'd |
| 18:58.15 | ifvoid | Nwallins: usually, one runs ntpdate at boot, and ntpd after that |
| 18:58.33 | ifvoid | Nwallins: just run ntpd |
| 18:58.38 | Nwallins | the only entry in /etc/init.d/ is ntpdate i don't see ntpd |
| 18:58.42 | ifvoid | it's thet best way to keep you clock in sync |
| 18:58.55 | ifvoid | Nwallins: ntpd is in the ntp-server package |
| 18:59.00 | Nwallins | ok |
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| 18:59.57 | nick|ignored | when i try to boot debian floppy image i get error SYSLINUX ...... Boot Failed |
| 19:00.04 | Nwallins | trying openntpd.. thanks |
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| 19:01.07 | unstable | nick|here: Try a new floppy |
| 19:01.22 | nick|here | floppy disk ? |
| 19:01.26 | unstable | yes |
| 19:01.37 | unstable | The floppy disk might be bad. |
| 19:01.38 | Nwallins | hmm.. after installing openntpd, there is no /etc/ntpd.conf which the man page refers to |
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| 19:02.20 | unstable | Nwallins: What version of debian? |
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| 19:02.28 | Nwallins | ah, nvm. /etc/openntpd/ntpd.conf |
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| 19:02.42 | skrewz | Nwallins: Tried /etc/openntpd/ntpd.conf? |
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| 19:03.15 | skrewz | Nwallins: `dpkg --contents` is your friend. :) |
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| 19:03.53 | Nwallins | i guess the man page for ntpd is for the standard version |
| 19:03.54 | Azar | stupid question: floppy disk don't have to be formatted first? |
| 19:04.22 | skrewz | Do anyone know how to have irssi auto-join channels in different windows? (or at all?) |
| 19:04.33 | bipolar | does anyone know of a repo with backported 2.6 kernels for sarge? |
| 19:04.45 | stew | bipolar: backports.org/instructions.html |
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| 19:04.57 | bipolar | stew: ty |
| 19:05.01 | juanma | hi |
| 19:05.02 | slashme | Hi! I've got a home machine on a dial-up link. I wanted to set up some kind of time synchronization, so I installed ntp-simple, removed ntp-server from my initscripts, added some 2nd stratum timeservers with the iburst option, and added ntpd -q to my /etc/ppp/ip-up . Was that right? It seems to work. |
| 19:05.07 | skrewz | Azar: Depends on what you're going to use them for. |
| 19:05.25 | slashme | Azar, yes it does. |
| 19:05.33 | Azar | skrewz: because I assume they are pre-formatted for mswin ? |
| 19:05.46 | stew | Azar: if you are planning to move some files to them, it must have a filesystem. if you are going to write a .img to it, it doesn't need to be formatted |
| 19:05.54 | slashme | Oh, yes, if they're pre-formatted, it's OK. |
| 19:06.04 | Azar | stew: thank you |
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| 19:06.53 | dbi | slashme: next time you upgrade ntp-simple the init.d links will appear again. see update-rc.d for how to prevent this |
| 19:07.22 | slashme | dbi: I used update-rc.d -f ntp-server remove |
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| 19:07.41 | dbi | slashme: then you're safe, I guess :) |
| 19:07.45 | slashme | Cool. |
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| 19:07.58 | stew | its safe either way |
| 19:07.58 | madclicker | ifvoid, when my system boots i get a shitload of those on scren |
| 19:08.03 | madclicker | screen |
| 19:08.10 | madclicker | http://pastebin.com/683520 |
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| 19:09.02 | madclicker | sarge could be a biatch with all the modules it tries to load |
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| 19:09.21 | jjazz | This Thinkpad has an onboard wireless. How would I go about finding out what kind of care it is? lspci has nothing I recognize as a wireless card. Thanks. |
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| 19:09.29 | jjazz | s/care/card/ |
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| 19:10.07 | samuel | how can i make small packages that only have dependencies? like a "meta package" to keep what i like in my sistem? |
| 19:10.15 | stew | jjazz: which model thinkpad? |
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| 19:10.27 | jjazz | stew: It's a T40 |
| 19:10.38 | stew | jjazz: then it should be an ipw2200 afaik |
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| 19:11.07 | jjazz | stew: I'm under the impression that's not 100% true. Is there an easy way to find out? |
| 19:11.28 | stew | jjazz: hmm though the two i have here, the 2200 shows up in lspci |
| 19:11.32 | sambrista | hi! I have a usb wifi adapter from my laptop, and i thought about activating it in my desktop computer (which is connected to internet through ethernet) to see if i could join them (the wifi is conected to other internet conection), but when i active both, internet doesn't go. Anyone knows what do i need to edit? |
| 19:11.38 | stew | jjazz: does anything show up in lsusb? |
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| 19:12.04 | stew | jjazz: the only wireless cards i know of ibm putting into recent laptops were 2200, 2100 and cisco aironet 350s |
| 19:12.06 | jjazz | stew: Just my external mouse and keyboard |
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| 19:12.44 | slashme | I have a home computer, and I sometimes attach my laptop to it. I have set up dhcpd to give it an IP address. Now, when my laptop isn't connected, I keep getting "localhost kernel: eth0: Tx timeout - resetting" in /var/log/messages. What's that all about? |
| 19:12.50 | jjazz | stew: OK. That's probably enough info for now. Thanks. |
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| 19:13.13 | stew | jjazz: does "lspci -n | grep 0280" return anything? |
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| 19:13.33 | jjazz | stew: Nope |
| 19:13.37 | Eclipser | err |
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| 19:14.46 | slashme | A |
| 19:16.19 | mfowle | fuck you make-kpkg |
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| 19:16.27 | slashme | tsk tsk. |
| 19:16.28 | mfowle | this is the sixth god damned time i've had to recompile |
| 19:16.34 | Eclipser | hum |
| 19:16.37 | didas | hi all |
| 19:16.38 | stew | jjazz: another option of course is to visually inspect the minipci slot under the sqare door on the bottom |
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| 19:16.43 | Eclipser | why do I remember dosbox being in debian? why isn't it in etch |
| 19:16.44 | Eclipser | ? |
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| 19:16.47 | stew | mfowle: why bother compiling in the first place? |
| 19:16.56 | mfowle | install -p -m 644 debian/changelog /home/mfowle/linux/debian/linux-image-2.6.16-mobile/usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.16-mobile/changelog.Debian |
| 19:16.57 | slashme | I've used dosbox in Sarge. |
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| 19:16.59 | mfowle | install: cannot stat `debian/changelog': No such file or directory |
| 19:17.05 | stew | Eclipser: /msg dpkg why is dosbox not in testing |
| 19:17.13 | mfowle | i suppose i could just install kernel headers and module-assistant from that |
| 19:17.18 | mfowle | oh wait no, |
| 19:17.22 | didas | I am running Debian 3.1 with GNOME. Am a new Linux user. I am trying to burn a CD. Any ideas where should I start? |
| 19:17.23 | mfowle | i need the nattpatch from openswan |
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| 19:17.28 | Eclipser | stew, too obvious answer :) |
| 19:17.40 | dnanar | hi |
| 19:17.52 | jjazz | stew: That's a good idea. I never even thought of that. Thanks. |
| 19:17.55 | stew | Eclipser: ok, how about this: "i think there is some webpage somewhere that will tell you" |
| 19:18.16 | jjazz | didas: k3b |
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| 19:19.15 | didas | jjazz: k3b is the name of the package? |
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| 19:19.57 | jjazz | didas: It's the name of the app. I dunno the package name off hand, but you can find it with 'apt-cache search k3b' |
| 19:20.07 | jjazz | didas: You might also look into gnome baker |
| 19:20.12 | saik0 | didas, K3B is a KDE app, you might try gnomebaker for a GNOME one |
| 19:20.12 | GoAuLd | oooh yeah |
| 19:20.28 | hjubal | hi |
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| 19:20.55 | jjazz | didas: Yes, k3b is a KDE app, but it's generally considered the best burner around. |
| 19:21.38 | didas | saik0 - jjazz thx Now how do i make your nicknames appear in some other color that yellow?! |
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| 19:21.58 | jjazz | didas: Read your irc client documentation |
| 19:22.00 | Edward_T | if I get this perl error on a debian machine what pkg am I missing.. ? "Can't locate utils.pm" |
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| 19:22.09 | Supaplex | !say hi to didas |
| 19:22.09 | dpkg | hi to didas |
| 19:22.32 | didas | ok thanks all |
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| 19:23.26 | unstable | didas: Don't install k3b, you have burning software like k3b for gnome. |
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| 19:23.29 | unstable | eh |
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| 19:23.57 | unstable | He could have used gnomebaker or graveman |
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| 19:24.36 | Supaplex | !start a cd burner war |
| 19:25.00 | EmleyMoor | gcdmaster |
| 19:25.06 | gnufan | !tell Edward_T about search |
| 19:25.20 | slashme | War, what war? Don't we all use mkisofs? |
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| 19:25.25 | gnufan | edward_t there are several -- what does the script do? |
| 19:25.42 | gnufan | edward_t alternatively use the source ;) |
| 19:26.00 | lamp_ | I have compiled a kernel 2.6.15 (debian way), when i try to boot, he can't mount my root partition; but he see's my sata hd |
| 19:26.04 | coldboot | Edward_T: I found libgd-graph-perl: usr/share/perl5/GD/Graph/utils.pm with `apt-file search utils.pm` |
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| 19:26.30 | buu | Hrm. mdadm tells me a drive is faulty and has been removed. How do I tell why it thinks the drive is faulty? |
| 19:26.49 | gnufan | Edward_T I have at least three other utils.pm installed other than the gd lib |
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| 19:28.01 | buu | Edward_T: Give us the exact error message |
| 19:28.05 | Edward_T | gnufan: it's a magaraid check script |
| 19:28.38 | Edward_T | Can't locate utils.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/edward/edje /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at |
| 19:28.54 | gnufan | edward_t Is it in nagios -- nagios-plugins-basic |
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| 19:29.18 | iter | anyone here use monit for server monitoring with exim4? |
| 19:29.41 | coldboot | I wrote a perl script that separates the kernel into meta-packages composed of arbitrary kernel modules, anyone interested in trying it out? |
| 19:29.53 | buu | Edward_T: That means 'utils.pm' should have shipped with that script. |
| 19:29.54 | coldboot | It automatically generates debian packages with complete dependencies |
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| 19:29.59 | buu | Edward_T: It is not a part of any other package. |
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| 19:30.28 | Edward_T | not sure... |
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| 19:31.29 | gnufan | Edward_T buu has me convinced you usually get a "NAME::blahblah" error if it is from a package |
| 19:32.41 | nkuttler_ | buu: nothing about raid or failed io in syslog? |
| 19:33.03 | Edward_T | nope |
| 19:33.19 | lamp_ | I have compiled a kernel 2.6.15 (debian way), when i try to boot, he can't mount my root partition; but he see's my sata hd |
| 19:33.34 | stew | lamp_: /msg dpkg can't mount root |
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| 19:33.58 | slashme | How do I stop my kernel generating "kernel: eth0: Tx timeout - resetting" messages? I know my network cable is unplugged most of the time. |
| 19:34.00 | Edward_T | buu: Can't locate Net/SNMP.pm in @INC (@INC contains: . /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at ./check_megaraid line 50. |
| 19:34.18 | Edward_T | this is the first one I got.. |
| 19:34.23 | Edward_T | so I installed |
| 19:34.32 | stew | slashme: ifconfig eth0 down ? |
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| 19:35.10 | slashme | But then I have to ifconfig eth0 up when I want to plug in my laptop, what a drag ;-) |
| 19:35.29 | stew | slashme: or ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 |
| 19:35.30 | gnufan | Edward_T that'll be libsnmp-perl |
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| 19:35.40 | Edward_T | yep I got that... ;) |
| 19:35.45 | stew | slashme: or /etc/init.d/networking stop ; ... start |
| 19:36.06 | slashme | I guess that's the best, then. Thanks. |
| 19:36.44 | slashme | ANyway, night all. |
| 19:37.10 | lamp_ | Stew how do i create a initrd |
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| 19:38.13 | stew | lamp_: usually by passing the --initrd options to make-kpkg, but if you have already compiled you can create one by hand, which kernel are you trying to run? |
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| 19:39.38 | lamp_ | stew: ok thanks |
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| 19:40.08 | lamp_ | stew: i'm trying to compile kernel 2.6.15 from the debian source package. |
| 19:40.29 | stew | and what version do you have running that you are trying to replace? |
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| 19:40.54 | gnufan | About to brave installing logcheck on a few servers -- any horror stories I should be aware of? |
| 19:41.14 | lamp_ | i'm running 2.6.15-1-686-smp debian image |
| 19:41.47 | kspath | just kidding |
| 19:41.58 | stew | lamp_: ok, in that case you must already have a 2.6.15 compatible initrd creator installed. you'll be using either mkinitrd.yaird or mkinitramfs |
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| 19:41.59 | gnufan | lamp_: unless you have ambition to join the kernel team at debian, I find it much easier to build from the Kernel source tarballs, with kernel-package -- on the other hand if you need 11+ architectures.... |
| 19:42.37 | unstable | 15:37 < lamp_> Stew how do i create a initrd |
| 19:42.44 | unstable | gnufan: I don't think he's joining the kernel team anytime soon. |
| 19:42.47 | stew | gnufan: there is no reason to worry about installing logcheck. the only thing that's going to happen is that you are going to get a big email once an hour until you start tweaking the rules to get that down to something managable |
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| 19:44.04 | Supaplex | !penixsmite kspath |
| 19:44.10 | gnufan | stew: big could be an issue.... gnufan looks at number of email connections refused by SBL-XBL <eek>. |
| 19:44.13 | raf256 | !smitesmite Supaplex |
| 19:44.57 | stew | gnufan: then you won't want to start with the "paranoid" config, or whatever its called |
| 19:44.58 | kspath | gnufan: Your IPs are listed in SBL-XBL? |
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| 19:45.08 | tuxedup | when i run checkinstall i get the following error message ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/installwatch.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored thenit tried to continue but bombs out. Any ideas what it is? |
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| 19:45.31 | kspath | gnufan: Oh you do not want it to encompass all the reports of refusals in your logs. |
| 19:45.39 | apecat | hm, any irssi users here? http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Irssi |
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| 19:46.16 | gnufan | kspath: no I meant in my maillog -- one of the boxes at work had enough users per domain to attract the dictionary attack spammers -- they use one machine to do 5 names in the domain, then another machine connects for the next 5 names, very tedious -- there are 10,000+ machine botnets out there -- I can tell |
| 19:46.31 | Supaplex | apecat: are you looking for support, or survey info? |
| 19:46.40 | unstable | apecat: don't troll |
| 19:46.40 | apecat | Supaplex: not really ;P |
| 19:46.43 | unstable | apecat: /join #irssi |
| 19:46.44 | Beakster | hi, ive just installed a debian base + the packages i thought i would need to get X runing with IceWM, but its not starting when I type startx. Can anyone help? |
| 19:46.51 | clojster | what should I do if I have repository, which includes package with the same name as in the official repository and I want to install the one from inofficial repository? apt-cache shows me both of them with the same package name, but when I install it, it installs the one from official repo. |
| 19:47.08 | apecat | hehe sorry. i'm on irssi myself, not trolling. maybe spamming. sorry. won't happen again |
| 19:47.28 | kspath | gnufan: I know exactly what you are talking about now. I was a mail admin for a 300,000 subscriber ISP for a few years. I detected and followed those sorts of attacks. |
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| 19:48.29 | kspath | gnufan: Have you considered refusing at firewall level the SBL-XBL IPs? |
| 19:48.32 | evaded | apecat: Cool teletext with irssi |
| 19:49.19 | apecat | :) |
| 19:49.37 | evaded | apecat: It's not the same app that the 'irc' client it's looks. But the app look the same |
| 19:49.55 | gnufan | kspath: Nah -- easy enough to ignore the log files -- I mean I wouldn't want them emailed to me, but modern CPUs and disks mean grepping a few hundred meg log files to find an email is no longer an issue. |
| 19:49.59 | kspath | gnufan: At least the very large network blocks in SBL. |
| 19:50.07 | apecat | evaded: heh, it's uncyclopedia. it's pure nonsense :) |
| 19:50.30 | evaded | apecat: Hhhmm, that's why .... ;-) |
| 19:50.46 | kspath | gnufan: What if you have 9GB of SMTP logs per day? |
| 19:51.07 | evaded | arhg, sorry OT but nice ;-) http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Armed_monkeys.jpg |
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| 19:52.28 | evaded | apecat: But why that website exist? If it's not true? |
| 19:52.47 | apecat | evaded: it's a Wikipedia parody |
| 19:52.53 | gnufan | kspath: haven't got there yet -- thankfully -- I did come back after one weekend to find I had 1.5GB of backscatter email in the postmaster mailbox.... maildir doesn't work that quickly over NFS sometimes ;) |
| 19:52.55 | apecat | created to be bizarre and funny |
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| 19:54.32 | evaded | apecat: I not bookmark that one website ;-) |
| 19:54.42 | apecat | heh |
| 19:54.48 | apecat | "Your loss" ;) |
| 19:54.56 | iter | it's bizarre all right |
| 19:54.59 | apecat | take a look at some random articles linked from the frnt page, and you'll realize that there are a lot of people willing to sacrifice a lot of time on trying to be funny. This is one of my all time favourites, it's well done and tasteless http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:I_himmler.jpg |
| 19:55.30 | iter | so nobody here uses monit ? |
| 19:55.39 | iter | pity, it's a great piece of software |
| 19:56.44 | evaded | apecat: lol |
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| 19:57.18 | StereoSkit | dudes, i booted an old laptop with boot floppies and installed sarge through cds (via external usb dvd-rom) and the security updates through the pcmcia ethernet card, now the i rebooted the systems, debian dont recognizes the eth0 interface, anyones which modules i need to load to enable this? tnx |
| 19:57.25 | n0rus | apt-get install <what?> to get headers like "stdio.h, stdint.h etc." |
| 19:57.47 | allix | is there a channel for the 64 bit port? |
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| 19:59.09 | JordiGH | I need help finding the gpg keys for an apt source. I know there is no standard, but even so, any idea how to begin? My apt source is debian.yorku.ca |
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| 20:01.23 | evaded | That's the way of Billy http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Windowsvistamarketing.jpg |
| 20:01.29 | StereoSkit | s/anyones/anyone knows?/ |
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| 20:02.26 | evaded | apecat: You're right, there are some realy fun things there ;-) |
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| 20:03.28 | apecat | evaded: yeah, it has saved me from total boredom numerous times |
| 20:03.56 | evaded | apecat: I'm never in that phase ;-) |
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| 20:04.08 | apecat | hehe lucky you |
| 20:04.26 | JordiGH | Er... |
| 20:04.32 | n0rus | apt-get install <what?> to get headers like "stdio.h, stdint.h etc." |
| 20:04.44 | chrysopa | Hi, I have problem with some user em KDE: I received this konsole message Unable to open PTY (Pseudoteletype)... and close. Anybody have any idea about this? |
| 20:04.59 | mundtw | hmm, where're the OOo 2.x help files? Using Etch atm |
| 20:05.21 | gnufan | JordiGH: can you grab the release, and release.gpg and ask gpg to check the sig, and retrieve whatever key it needs if it doesn't, then check the topic here for how to add to APT? |
| 20:05.28 | evaded | mundtw: dpkg -l <packagename>?? |
| 20:05.41 | mundtw | answered in #debian-oo |
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| 20:06.02 | evaded | mundtw: Capital 'L', sorry |
| 20:06.25 | JordiGH | gnufan: I think I understand how to use gpg to get the key, according to the instructions in this wiki:http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
| 20:06.28 | mundtw | I need them evaded the packages are missing, apparently due to a bug in a testing script |
| 20:06.43 | JordiGH | gnufan: I also understand which key I should download, according to the error after apt-get update. |
| 20:07.00 | gnufan | Hehe got my first logcheck report -- 4 of the 6 entries are for the installation of logcheck itself ;) |
| 20:07.10 | evaded | mundtw: Argh, look in reportbug or so? Possible there are already an patch or an comming solution |
| 20:07.11 | JordiGH | I don't understand how I'm supposed to find the key for my source, though. Should I just dig with ftp through my apt source until I find release.gpg? |
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| 20:07.24 | didas | hi all |
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| 20:07.52 | evaded | JordiGH: Look to the '/topic' |
| 20:07.57 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 20:07.57 | dpkg | somebody said tetrinet was probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
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| 20:08.27 | gnufan | JordiGH: if the key isn't in one of the public key servers then ignore them ;) |
| 20:08.36 | Azar | JordiGH: I have had myself a bit of hardship last night, I don't understand this gnupg thing but it worked in a final |
| 20:09.09 | SimonRaven | !apt secure |
| 20:09.09 | dpkg | well, apt secure is in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174, or ask me about <apt-key 4F368D5D>, or ask me about <2006 key> |
| 20:09.11 | ming | i have no sound. my alsa has been successfully configured and my volumes are unmuted and all the way up. i can record sound through a mic but i jsut cant play it back. can someone help me figure out i still have no sound? |
| 20:09.33 | hjubal | why are syslog messages duplicated in my log files? |
| 20:09.55 | didas | am using GnomeBaker. Am selecting the files I want to burn to CD, then pres Create Data Disk and then, after the ISO image file has been created the Baking CD window does nothing.. Any ideas? |
| 20:10.03 | hjubal | i find the same entries in /var/log/syslog, messages.. |
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| 20:10.07 | Azar | ming you have to remove the oss module from /etc/modules and replace it with the alsa one / also make sure you put yourself in the "audio" group |
| 20:10.11 | SimonRaven | ming: try killing esd / artsd |
| 20:10.32 | JordiGH | Ok, thanks. dpkg has told me where to find it. But I want to understand what's going on. Why does the command that dpkg use export a long name instead of the shorter name for the key that I used with --receive? |
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| 20:10.42 | ming | how do i remove oss? or how do i remove anything at all? |
| 20:10.44 | vinvin | hi |
| 20:10.45 | gnufan | hjubal: then the category is listed twice in /etc/syslog.conf -- the debian defaults are very keen on multiple mail log files |
| 20:11.00 | ming | and how do i kill esd/ artsd, do i find it and delete it? |
| 20:11.17 | Azar | ming: you have to know your sound card name: find the oss module name for it, the alsa module allways starts with snd_ |
| 20:11.45 | ming | ok |
| 20:11.56 | gnufan | JordiGH: no idea - paranoia? The fingerprints are actually quite long, where as the numbers used are short enough to type, not short enough to be secure. |
| 20:12.02 | hjubal | gnufan, i think you're right |
| 20:12.16 | hjubal | in /etc/syslog.conf there is "*.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog" |
| 20:12.21 | hjubal | "*.*"!! |
| 20:12.23 | JordiGH | gnufan: paranoia is what gpg is all about. :) |
| 20:12.59 | Azar | ming: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 20:13.23 | kspath | JordiGH: Are you high? |
| 20:13.48 | ming | ok thanks, give me a sec to follow ur instructions |
| 20:14.08 | gnufan | JordiGH: judging by the comments here the other night, someone already has a root privilege escalation available if they can get shell access, the security team in Stable are playing catch up with kernel bugs by the looks of it. Still I always figured anyone who can get shell access can get root on most Unix like OSes. |
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| 20:14.15 | kspath | !tell ming about u |
| 20:14.20 | didas | when burning a CD, do I have to see my CD writer in the cdrecord -scanbus list? I mean if it is not there cdrecord will not be able to burn the iso image I prepared with mkisofs, right? |
| 20:14.52 | EmleyMoor | didas: What interface is ou |
| 20:14.56 | EmleyMoor | your CD writer on? |
| 20:15.09 | Azar | speaking of gnupg, this is a nice story: http://www.webmonkey.com/06/17/index4a.html |
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| 20:15.16 | didas | how do I see the interface? |
| 20:15.24 | EmleyMoor | You probably know |
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| 20:15.32 | EmleyMoor | How is it accessed for reading? |
| 20:16.02 | didas | EmleyMoor: I mount it on /media/cdrom0 |
| 20:16.04 | JordiGH | gnufan: Really? My root access circulates like a public key, serving more requests than http? It keeps all of its ports open like Windows ME? Oh there's so much drama in gpg. |
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| 20:16.12 | EmleyMoor | Is it ATAPI or SCSI? |
| 20:16.18 | didas | EmpleyMoor: just a sec.. |
| 20:16.32 | EmleyMoor | Sure, dipdas |
| 20:16.48 | Azar | JordiGH: you might want to spend a better time reading that story |
| 20:16.56 | ming | how can i find out what version of debian i am running? |
| 20:17.01 | didas | EmpleyMoor: /dev/hdc |
| 20:17.15 | EmleyMoor | didas: Does cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA: show it? |
| 20:17.39 | gnufan | !version |
| 20:17.39 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
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| 20:17.58 | Oetmet | I have a core duo processor... and have read i have to download a SMP enabled kernel.. |
| 20:18.09 | Oetmet | is this the same than downloading the regular kernel and enabling SMP support? |
| 20:18.20 | Oetmet | whetever SMP means |
| 20:18.34 | didas | EmpleyMoor: No it does not show it |
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| 20:18.56 | kspath | !smp |
| 20:18.56 | dpkg | smp is, like, (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing |
| 20:19.05 | didas | EmpleyMoor: It responds Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface |
| 20:19.22 | gnufan | Oetmet: Yes, the SMP kernel allows you to use more than one processor, or hyperthreading, so most people should have an SMP kernel these days -- alas it isn't the default yet |
| 20:19.26 | EmleyMoor | ... OK... try cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI: |
| 20:19.44 | didas | EmpleyMoor: and then (among others that follow) Read-only file system. Cannot open '/dev/hdc'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 20:19.55 | epsilon | hm, can I use apt-get <download-only> as non-root to download .deb to my home dir? |
| 20:19.57 | EmleyMoor | didas: Are you doing this as root? |
| 20:20.11 | Oetmet | gnufan: but must I download the regular kenerl, and once there, enable the SMP support ? (I guess that has to be enabled on the 'processor' section?) |
| 20:20.18 | didas | EmleyMoor: No. Not as root |
| 20:20.38 | EmleyMoor | didas: Try it as root, and if it works, alter your permissions appropriately |
| 20:20.39 | Oetmet | gnufan: or do I have to download a special SMP kernel |
| 20:20.48 | Azar | Oetmet: what operating system are you using? |
| 20:20.55 | Oetmet | Azar: Ubuntu |
| 20:20.57 | epsilon | dev/hdc isn't scsi |
| 20:21.00 | gnufan | Oetmet: since you'd have to recompile the kernel to get SMP support, but Debian already packages SMP kernels with security support, you'd have to be a masocist to enable it manually (or Alan Cox). |
| 20:21.02 | didas | EmpleyRoot: just tried it as root. It does not work |
| 20:21.15 | Azar | Oetmet: then you cannot use debian advice: ask in #ubuntu |
| 20:21.19 | didas | EmpleyRoot: let me try the ATAPI |
| 20:21.24 | EmleyMoor | epsilon: Indeed, I know that. I also know how ATA CD writers work |
| 20:21.29 | Azar | Oetmet: kernels and packages in Debian are not same as Ubuntu |
| 20:21.36 | ming | Azar: please help me, i dont know how which one in /etc/modules is OSS and how to add the alsa |
| 20:21.50 | Azar | ming, ok tell me the name of your sound card |
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| 20:22.12 | Azar | ming : lspci then look at "Multimedia controller" |
| 20:22.13 | EmleyMoor | cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA: works on mine |
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| 20:22.36 | strankan | does anyone know how to change the default download directory for w3m? |
| 20:22.41 | didas | EmpleyRoot: I can see both my DVD ROM and the CD writer using the ATAPI option. |
| 20:22.48 | stew | strankan: -O filename |
| 20:22.51 | ming | ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 02) |
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| 20:23.01 | vin` | stew: getting rid of XkbVariant in xorg.conf fixed it, thanks. |
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| 20:23.10 | stew | vin`: is this 7.0? |
| 20:23.15 | Azar | ming ok let me google for it |
| 20:23.16 | gnufan | Azar: and I was going to mention that the Debian SMP kernels have other little difference that might matter -- how come so many Ubuntu users confuse "#debian" with "#ubuntu" I mean is it so easy to install you don't need to be able to read? |
| 20:23.17 | vin` | stew: yes. |
| 20:23.21 | ming | should i look on the alsa site |
| 20:23.25 | EmleyMoor | didas: OK - well, ATAPI:bus,target,lun will work for you then... though I'm not convinced it's good |
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| 20:23.34 | stew | vin`: can you document it on the Xorg69To7 page? |
| 20:23.34 | strankan | stew: dont you mean -O directory? |
| 20:23.38 | stew | strankan: no |
| 20:23.48 | Azar | gnufan: the Debian kernels are "debianized" the Ubuntu ones are "ubuntinized" |
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| 20:23.58 | EmleyMoor | Both work with mine, but the bus numbers differ by 2 |
| 20:24.00 | stew | strankan: oh, nm |
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| 20:24.15 | stew | strankan: i was thinkg of wget not w3m :) hit O to go to the options? |
| 20:24.22 | didas | EmpleyMoor: I already have created the cd image I want with mkisofs. However, I am not sure what is what when it comes to "bus,target,lun" |
| 20:24.38 | strankan | yea, did that but cant find anything regarding download dir |
| 20:24.39 | Azar | ming no, first I look to see how the OSS module is called: as root type : less /etc/modules and paste the content in a paster: /msg dpkg paster |
| 20:24.46 | EmleyMoor | What does cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI: actually say? |
| 20:24.52 | TaF | anyone care to help me with a silly little problem? |
| 20:25.13 | EmleyMoor | (paste the relevant line here, or the whole thing to a pastebin if you want to paste it all) |
| 20:25.23 | Azar | ming paster command here, in the irc /msg dpkg paster |
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| 20:25.47 | didas | EmpleyMoor: scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'ARTEC ' 'WRR-52Z ' '1.23' Removable CD-ROM |
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| 20:26.03 | EmleyMoor | didas: That's ATAPI:0,0,0 then |
| 20:26.31 | TaF | hello |
| 20:27.08 | GoAuLd | !xorg etch |
| 20:27.08 | dpkg | methinks xorg etch is not in etch |
| 20:27.25 | didas | EmleyMoor: I read most of the CD-Writing HOWTO but did not see that this must be so simple. I am off to try and burn a cd. Thx for the help |
| 20:27.49 | _rene_ | !xserver-xorg etch |
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| 20:27.56 | ming | did the paste work? |
| 20:27.58 | _rene_ | !info xserver-xorg etch |
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| 20:28.06 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 (etch), Packaged size: 5780 kB, Installed size: 14936 kB |
| 20:28.08 | _rene_ | you wanted that? ^ ;) |
| 20:28.17 | ming | its here http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste Azar |
| 20:28.41 | MM2 | I hate this: dapper installer installed a system with no user accounts. I rebootet to maintenache-mode and added password to root and an account. But things are wrong... |
| 20:28.43 | _rene_ | there's no "xorg" dummy package in etch yet, although there is on sid |
| 20:28.45 | GoAuLd | _rene_ i wanted xorg7 in etch |
| 20:28.49 | GoAuLd | :) |
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| 20:28.56 | spanglesontoast | wtf |
| 20:29.08 | apecat | does anyone have any experience of monit? does it make sense, or is it known to be insecure or something? |
| 20:29.09 | spanglesontoast | why would debian run find from nobody |
| 20:29.19 | _rene_ | because updatedb runs under nobody |
| 20:29.24 | _rene_ | completely normal |
| 20:29.27 | spanglesontoast | ah |
| 20:29.37 | GoAuLd | !tell MM2 about notdebian |
| 20:29.45 | MM2 | GoAuLd: sorry! |
| 20:29.46 | spanglesontoast | I got scared |
| 20:29.52 | spanglesontoast | my machine started growning |
| 20:30.03 | Azar | ming ok your OSS module is a trident - alsa module is snd_ali5451 |
| 20:30.21 | ming | ok |
| 20:30.27 | GoAuLd | MM2 dont worry, just install debian ;) |
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| 20:30.47 | ming | so i add snd_ali5451 in to /etc/modules and delete nothing from it? |
| 20:30.52 | MM2 | GoAuLd: I use in servers debian, fair enough? |
| 20:30.54 | ming | and then i blacklist trident? |
| 20:31.02 | Azar | ming, there is nothing in the paster, paste me the content of /etc/modules |
| 20:31.05 | GoAuLd | MM2 yeah |
| 20:31.10 | GoAuLd | !prize mm2 |
| 20:31.23 | Azar | ming yes, blacklist trident and replace it with the alsa module |
| 20:31.38 | Azar | ming follow that tutorial :) |
| 20:31.59 | TaF | can anyone reccomend a stable distrobution for me? i am currently running TaFusion but im having issues |
| 20:32.06 | TaF | distrib* |
| 20:32.12 | klync | TaF: debian? |
| 20:32.16 | TaF | yeah |
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| 20:32.20 | Azar | ming then instruct(configure) your player to use Alsa instead |
| 20:32.21 | TaF | simply mepis |
| 20:32.22 | clars | I use gftp to connect 1 server with ssh, but I cannot connect server 2 by ftp |
| 20:32.34 | ming | Azar: does this paste work? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2438?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21 |
| 20:32.44 | clars | I use gftp to connect 1 server with ssh, but I cannot connect server 2 by ssh by gftp |
| 20:32.45 | Azar | hold on |
| 20:32.48 | ming | ok |
| 20:33.04 | klync | TaF: of all the pros and cons, i'd say debian is the absolute most stable distro |
| 20:33.17 | TaF | yeah |
| 20:33.17 | TaF | thats what i hear |
| 20:33.30 | JordiGH | Well... |
| 20:33.39 | TaF | well, i really like mepis....but it seems buggy these days |
| 20:33.40 | Azar | ok I do not see any sound module there |
| 20:33.49 | Azar | ming did you installed alsa? |
| 20:33.55 | JordiGH | OpenBSD tries to be the absolute safest, but that's not GNU nor Linux... |
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| 20:34.05 | JordiGH | Nor much of a desktop distro, I hear. |
| 20:34.18 | paroneayea | anyone know what font packages seem to have broken in the latest debian unstable release? |
| 20:34.21 | ming | yes |
| 20:34.24 | chealer9 | TaF: if you like MEPIS, expect to love Debian |
| 20:34.29 | JordiGH | Ack, you said "stable". Not "secure". Never mind me. |
| 20:34.42 | Azar | ming strange, the module should have been listed there |
| 20:35.00 | ming | let me log out and log in as root |
| 20:35.02 | ming | ill brb |
| 20:35.04 | TaF | well, ill be honest, i am so freakin new to linux |
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| 20:35.17 | JordiGH | !mepis |
| 20:35.18 | dpkg | i heard mepis is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system that uses KDE and includes NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. See http://www.mepis.org and/or visit #mepis and ask me about <Based On Debian> |
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| 20:35.19 | Azar | TaF I got something nice for you |
| 20:35.29 | ma`Z | tucka :ö |
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| 20:35.38 | JordiGH | Thx. I probably should have told you to say that privately to me, dpkg. Sorry. |
| 20:35.45 | Azar | TaF: http://www.linuxcommand.org/ |
| 20:35.51 | TaF | i have tafusion, simply mepis gnu debian linux on my computer....i run kde (very happy with it) and i love the operating system that was preloaded |
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| 20:36.43 | TaF | i seem to have the most mundane problems |
| 20:36.50 | Azar | TaF that is one of the best and nicest written linux for beginners writing, enjoy |
| 20:36.53 | TaF | like my browser plugins |
| 20:37.00 | TaF | thank you |
| 20:37.19 | TaF | i beleive that i have been there, as well as on a host of other newbie pages |
| 20:37.28 | evaded | Azar: Yeah, that's an nice one man ;-) |
| 20:37.56 | Azar | evaded: I am just rubbing my nose trying to get a bash scripting intro, thats cool tutorial |
| 20:38.04 | kspath | !tell JordiGH about thx |
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| 20:38.21 | mada | hello, any xfce4 users in the chan? |
| 20:38.31 | JordiGH | !tell kspath about stfu |
| 20:38.48 | kspath | mada: Just ask your questions about xfce4 if you have one. |
| 20:38.58 | JordiGH | kspath Er, I meant that in a nice way. :) |
| 20:39.05 | Azar | kspath: clear your screen, use /ignore |
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| 20:39.53 | mada | if you do a debian "desktop" option in the install and it defaults to gnome with gdm, if i apt-get install xfce4 is there any more configuration needed to put it in the gdm session menu? |
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| 20:40.09 | kspath | JordiGH: I know well the STFU. Thank you. I was only helping you with your English since this is an English channel and it appeared you might know some of the language. |
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| 20:40.32 | hestian | hi |
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| 20:41.25 | strongz | http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=5393737 |
| 20:41.26 | strongz | :) |
| 20:41.34 | JordiGH | kspath. Kthxbye for all your help. |
| 20:41.38 | TaF | let me ask a stupid question about repositories |
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| 20:42.09 | mada | kspath: nobody responds when i just ask a question .... apparently |
| 20:42.25 | kspath | JordiGH: Can you define Kthxbye. I am not aware of that word. |
| 20:42.27 | TaF | is there a way to keep up to date with the debian pools? am i at the mercy of my vendor when it comes to repositories in synaptic? |
| 20:42.33 | paroneayea | anyone else running debian unstable notice that a lot of their X fonts have just disappeared in the latest dist-upgrade ? |
| 20:42.41 | ryan` | mada: I don't know. |
| 20:42.48 | ryan` | try it and see if it works. |
| 20:42.49 | JordiGH | kspath: N/m. |
| 20:43.22 | JordiGH | kspath: Also, apt-get install bsdgames if you need more help. "wtf n/m" might then be useful. |
| 20:43.24 | kspath | mada: If anyone knows and is willing to answer they will. It is a volunteer project and not everyone can/will answer questions. |
| 20:43.32 | mada | rgr |
| 20:43.37 | vin` | stew: added it, a bug report maybe proper if this really is a bug, I don't really use keyboard variants, so will leave it to a legitimate user. |
| 20:43.41 | chealer9 | TaF: what? which vendor? |
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| 20:44.25 | TaF | well, i paid for my copy of tafusion because it seemed worth it, i didnt have to compile anything, it was like the days of windows when you started your comp and whala! |
| 20:44.37 | kspath | mada: I am not familiar with rgr. You can ask again in several minutes and there are debian mailing lists and archives. There might be people that know but are asleep at this hour. |
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| 20:45.08 | evaded | TaF: Insta that fucking M$ again then, if h |
| 20:45.16 | TaF | sorry |
| 20:45.19 | evaded | TaF: If you like that one |
| 20:45.20 | TaF | im not praising them |
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| 20:45.29 | TaF | just using the analogy |
| 20:45.37 | iter | people love to hate ms |
| 20:45.44 | iter | but cmon their software isn't all bad |
| 20:45.59 | iter | they have some very smart programmers |
| 20:46.19 | AzianFlu | that is true. |
| 20:46.22 | TaF | lemme see if if i have this straight |
| 20:46.39 | hestian | the flightgear package delivers the program fgjs, which should detect joysticks. I have a _gamepad_ "logitech wingman cordless", which is fully recognized by jstest and half recognized by wine-applications and mupen64 (n64 emulator, uses SDL for input) (axis don't work), but fgjs does not detect anything. |
| 20:46.44 | mada | kspath: rgr == "roger" .... basically, i understand what was being said to me ... thanks for the refferal to the mailing lists too, i will check it out |
| 20:46.44 | TaF | if i am running a debian system...shouldnt i have the right to pull from the debian repositories |
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| 20:46.59 | vin` | stew: although it did work until a couple of days back. *shrug* |
| 20:46.59 | TaF | and how do you know or find out what they are? |
| 20:47.04 | zinx | TaF: nothing is preventing you from doing so even if you aren't running debian |
| 20:47.16 | TaF | i thought so! |
| 20:47.32 | TaF | i feel so stupid for wastin g years on ms |
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| 20:47.54 | vin` | TaF: better late than never. |
| 20:48.13 | zinx | TaF: the repositories are public knowledge, listed on debian.org, listed in the various install CDs, and listed countless other places scattered across the world |
| 20:48.14 | TaF | i have no education whatsoever but i now more about computers than anyone i have ever met..... just so new to linux that i feel like the old man without a clue |
| 20:48.38 | kspath | TaF: know? |
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| 20:48.55 | evaded | TaF: Remember you how many time you have splend to that M$? |
| 20:48.56 | iter | hehe I wouldn't brag about how much you "know" in this channel |
| 20:49.05 | JordiGH | iter++ |
| 20:49.10 | JordiGH | Er, iter, :) |
| 20:49.21 | TaF | i couldnt understand that sentence evaded |
| 20:49.23 | uwe | nvz, are you still there |
| 20:49.38 | kspath | TaF: evaded is learning English. |
| 20:49.41 | TaF | i see |
| 20:49.43 | evaded | s/splend/you\ give |
| 20:49.45 | Azar | TaF you better read the apt primer, you will understand: http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml?tid=2&tid=130 < old but the general idea is there |
| 20:49.46 | X600 | TaF: I think he's asking you to remember how long you spent learning how MS Windows worked. |
| 20:49.47 | TaF | no offense intended at all |
| 20:49.56 | TaF | i figured |
| 20:49.58 | TaF | yeah |
| 20:50.00 | X600 | TaF: Because you're pretty much starting over. |
| 20:50.06 | Azar | TaF read up ^^ |
| 20:50.08 | evaded | oeps, not right |
| 20:50.09 | htrp | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 3146 package `xbase-clients': |
| 20:50.09 | htrp | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.09 | htrp | E0x: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 20:50.11 | htrp | what is this? |
| 20:50.11 | TaF | oh beleive me, i am excited about linux |
| 20:50.16 | kspath | TaF: You can help evaded with English. evaded welcomes corrections to spelling. |
| 20:50.17 | evaded | TaF: Remember you how many time you have give to that M$? |
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| 20:50.42 | evaded | kspath: Yes, i love you also, because you learn me some things, and not only Debian ;-) |
| 20:50.42 | stew | vin`: i don't think it's necessarily a bug. gravity checks that page routinely so, he'll see it. I know they are going to be workig on some automatic "fixing" of font paths in customized conffiles, so maybe he'll be able to deal with that too |
| 20:50.44 | TaF | i feel like there isnt enought time in a day tho to learn all i want to learn |
| 20:50.47 | stew | vin`: and thanks |
| 20:50.49 | TaF | its like crack man! |
| 20:50.53 | kspath | evaded: taught |
| 20:50.59 | htrp | can anyone tell me what this is? |
| 20:51.04 | iter | evaded: remeber how *much* time you *had to give* to MS |
| 20:51.07 | uwe | stew, i think i might have a hint about why ff crashes |
| 20:51.16 | vin` | TaF: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#quick-reference is good. |
| 20:51.17 | Azar | TaF, is a totally different OS and taking a bit time to read will help you |
| 20:51.20 | X600 | TaF: Just stick with it. It'll get fun once you start getting the hang of things. :) |
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| 20:51.26 | evaded | iter & iter :-) |
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| 20:51.29 | evaded | oeps |
| 20:51.34 | evaded | iter & kspath :-) |
| 20:51.39 | X600 | TaF: And don't let anyone convince you that it's "hard". It's really not, it's just different. |
| 20:51.42 | vin` | stew: my duty if it helps. :) |
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| 20:51.48 | stew | uwe: try moving your .mozilla somewhere out of the way to eliminate plugins/extensions as the cause. and, of course, /msg dpkg bts |
| 20:51.52 | JordiGH | TaF: You said that you were already with a live distro, didn't you? I think that's an important first step (but others will disagree). GNU/Linux isn't all about configuring hardware problems as this channel may sometimes have you believe. Once it works, baby, you'll never go back. |
| 20:51.53 | TaF | i well, i learned a massive amount of knowledge in a short time |
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| 20:52.21 | ming | Azar: i have followed all the instructions |
| 20:52.26 | ming | but i still have no sound |
| 20:52.26 | TaF | but you know how like when you learn a language? you know certain things like cuss words? but not how to conjigate them? |
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| 20:52.28 | JordiGH | Forgive my blankos. I meant to say "you were already familiar with" |
| 20:52.37 | kspath | TaF: Try not to assume anything from your previous experiences with other OS/environment. |
| 20:52.55 | Azar | ming important is that we found the name of the alsa module, did you added it to /etc/modules? |
| 20:53.00 | uwe | stew, the site forces converting the funny html &#XXXX; codes into binary in the DB, and are sent that way. |
| 20:53.04 | iter | just blame the jerks who flame you when you ask silly questions |
| 20:53.04 | ming | yes i did |
| 20:53.14 | TaF | thats a bad analogy |
| 20:53.15 | ming | and trident was not in there |
| 20:53.15 | iter | the sandals-and-ponytail set |
| 20:53.15 | X600 | TaF: I understand, and you'll learn how to put things together in time. |
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| 20:53.25 | TaF | it was all i could come up with |
| 20:53.26 | stew | uwe: huh? |
| 20:53.27 | Azar | ming you might now want to run alsamixer, adjust volumes then type alsactl store |
| 20:53.28 | TaF | haha |
| 20:53.59 | Azar | ming, next configure your player to use alsa |
| 20:54.01 | evaded | ming: Sound are muted default |
| 20:54.13 | uwe | well, i wanted to tell nvz , but hes aparently away , so i thought i tell you |
| 20:54.20 | Azar | ming next : adduser ming audio |
| 20:54.34 | vin` | ming: is it an intel chip and an acer laptop by any chance? |
| 20:55.13 | D-fence | I used "dpkg-reconfigure locale" to change the locale. It works for root but not for my usual user ?! Any idea ? |
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| 20:55.34 | ming | it is an intel pentium 4 |
| 20:55.36 | Azar | vin`: snd_ali5451 is his alsa module |
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| 20:56.06 | vin` | oh, ali5451 worked perfectly on my old lappy for years. |
| 20:56.14 | Azar | ming have you ran alsaconf before? |
| 20:56.20 | ming | yes |
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| 20:56.42 | Azar | ok after you adjust all that stuff try a sample sound on your player |
| 20:56.44 | ming | several times actually and it has detected my card every time |
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| 20:57.17 | ming | can i do test sound in control center? |
| 20:57.34 | Azar | ming I do not know what a control center is I do not use desktop |
| 20:57.45 | Azar | I only use xmms player |
| 20:57.48 | evaded | ming: You mean 'kcontrol' |
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| 20:57.56 | ming | yea kcontrol |
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| 20:58.06 | vin` | ming: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 20:58.17 | TaF | i have figured out how to compile drivers in terminal, certain things like that which most people who havent used linux would be clueless about, but i dont even know what x is........im still piecing together the puzzle. i think x is the basic computer configuration... or the desktop configuration... i dunno |
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| 20:58.42 | TaF | i bet that sounds weird |
| 20:58.48 | Azar | TaF: X is the window interface |
| 20:58.56 | TaF | ha! |
| 20:58.58 | X600 | X is what lets you have a desktop, basically. |
| 20:59.05 | TaF | i see |
| 20:59.25 | Baloo | Does amavis cause postfix or exim to return a 5xx SMTP response when it encounters spam or a virus? |
| 20:59.35 | warreng | anybody want to make a few bucks?? i need subversion 1.3.1 backports (and libsvn-ruby bindings)... 1.3.1 is in unstable too..... privmsg me with a price-tag if you're interested |
| 20:59.36 | Azar | TaF: take your time and read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/index.html#contents |
| 20:59.43 | TaF | ok |
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| 21:00.31 | ming | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp give me nothing, no sound |
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| 21:00.58 | Baloo | Or a better question, what's the best way to reject messages at SMTP-time with a 5xx response in Postfix for messages clamav finds a virus in or spamassassin scores as spam? |
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| 21:01.24 | evaded | ming: Same case here,but my sound work been :-/ |
| 21:01.24 | ming | do i need to reboot after alsaconf? |
| 21:01.31 | Wikipedia-Gast | no |
| 21:01.39 | evaded | ming: Logout and login again, |
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| 21:01.42 | Azar | ming no, is ok.. |
| 21:01.46 | Wikipedia-Gast | why |
| 21:01.47 | htrp | where can i find: .xinitrc ? |
| 21:01.50 | unstable | ming: You don't _need_ to...but alsa is funny sometimes. |
| 21:01.54 | Wikipedia-Gast | you can't find it |
| 21:02.02 | unstable | I've not gotten alsa to work unless I reboot |
| 21:02.06 | Wikipedia-Gast | no |
| 21:02.08 | evaded | htrp: 'locate .xinitrc' or with the find cmd |
| 21:02.11 | Wikipedia-Gast | why |
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| 21:02.27 | kspath | Baloo: Be prepared to ask in #postfix and/or postfix mailing lists. There are resources outside of #debian for those applications/tools. |
| 21:02.30 | Wikipedia-Gast | why |
| 21:02.38 | Azar | Wikipedia-Gast: because sometimes in some situations does not load |
| 21:02.50 | Wikipedia-Gast | fascinating |
| 21:03.05 | Azar | the oss still blocks it unless the system does not clearly see oss is out |
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| 21:03.14 | Wikipedia-Gast | oss is on |
| 21:03.18 | Baloo | kspath: is there a jabber chat for that? Jabber's less painful than IRC to use in my environment (namely, I can connect directly to Jabber, but have to connecto to IRC via jabber) |
| 21:03.31 | Wikipedia-Gast | jabberwocky |
| 21:03.33 | Azar | when you boot, oss is "on" and wont let alsa take over |
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| 21:03.49 | Wikipedia-Gast | mowgli |
| 21:03.55 | kspath | Baloo: I do not know. I do not use jabber. |
| 21:03.59 | ming | i have taken oss out and did the steps for blacklisting it, do i need to do more? |
| 21:04.02 | Wikipedia-Gast | jabberwocky$ |
| 21:04.10 | Supaplex | jabber roxorz |
| 21:04.18 | Wikipedia-Gast | jabba the hutt |
| 21:04.23 | kspath | Supaplex: What is roxorz? |
| 21:04.25 | Baloo | Wikipedia-Gast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabber |
| 21:04.27 | Azar | ming what kspath said: log out , log in |
| 21:04.31 | Wikipedia-Gast | an orc |
| 21:04.33 | ming | ok |
| 21:04.35 | Supaplex | kspath: just a lame way to say rocks |
| 21:04.47 | Wikipedia-Gast | rocknroll |
| 21:04.48 | npx | how can I telnet into somewhere and see all the \r\n characters and stuff? |
| 21:05.00 | kspath | Wikipedia-Gast: Are you only going to scroll the channel with meaningless junk? |
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| 21:05.13 | Wikipedia-Gast | are you insane? |
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| 21:05.27 | Azar | Wikipedia-Gast: do you need some help with Debian? |
| 21:05.28 | Supaplex | npx: netcat |
| 21:05.34 | Wikipedia-Gast | why |
| 21:05.46 | Azar | Wikipedia-Gast: do you give some help with Debian? |
| 21:05.51 | vin` | I think it's a bot. |
| 21:05.57 | Wikipedia-Gast | of course |
| 21:05.58 | kspath | !tell Wikipedia-Gast about clue |
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| 21:06.01 | evaded | Wikipedia-Gast: Because you are here on #debian! |
| 21:06.10 | Supaplex | !cluebat Wikipedia-Gast |
| 21:06.22 | Supaplex | heh |
| 21:06.23 | nix | what should i use, cpufreqd or powernowd? |
| 21:06.39 | Supaplex | nix: intel vs amd, iirc |
| 21:06.44 | Baloo | dpkg: shouldn't that be x.org now? |
| 21:06.58 | vin` | Baloo: dpkg is a bot. |
| 21:07.11 | Baloo | vin`: I am fully aware of that. :o) |
| 21:07.23 | kspath | Baloo: Debian Sarge/Stable default X is XFree86. |
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| 21:07.53 | ming | i have logged out and logged back in |
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| 21:08.14 | Azar | ming by now it should work: I mean you did all possible |
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| 21:09.35 | Azar | ming what Debian version are you using? just curious |
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| 21:09.42 | vin` | Baloo: ursine? |
| 21:09.43 | ming | i want to know too |
| 21:09.50 | ming | i think sarge |
| 21:10.06 | Baloo | vin`: Yup |
| 21:10.19 | Azar | ming type cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:10.31 | Baloo | Trying to convert from exim4 to postfix so I can try out kolab |
| 21:10.47 | ming | 3.1 |
| 21:10.57 | Azar | ok yes sarge |
| 21:11.00 | Baloo | I understand kolab is interchangable with exchange? |
| 21:11.13 | nethenson | I am trying to install debian in a Pc. Debian fails because of "No partitionable harddisk found". Gentoo finds the disk, so the disk is supported in linux ... but I want to install Debian, can i dowload modules and load them via floppy so that Debian can see my disk, or something? |
| 21:11.20 | Azar | ming I assume your kernel version is a 2.4.27 since you have not had alsa |
| 21:11.21 | ming | gosh i dont know y this doesn work... |
| 21:11.24 | pipeline | Baloo: not meaningfully |
| 21:11.35 | ming | yes it is 2.4.27 |
| 21:11.38 | vin` | nethenson: sata? |
| 21:11.45 | nethenson | yes, vin` |
| 21:11.55 | kspath | vin`: linux26? |
| 21:11.56 | Azar | ming, it would have helped better if you would have a 2.6.8 kernel |
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| 21:12.03 | nethenson | kspath: yes linux26 |
| 21:12.06 | Baloo | pipeline: What would you suggest for a meaningful interaction there? |
| 21:12.14 | Azar | but it should work ok with a 2.4 kernel... I do not know why is not |
| 21:12.24 | vin` | nethenson: try the etch installer then, newer kernel. |
| 21:12.53 | petemc | Baloo: when i looked at all of the groupware suites i could find a while back, none of them were a direct replacement for exchange |
| 21:12.54 | ming | if i use a 2.6.8 kernel, will i have to reinstall everything and start over? |
| 21:13.00 | Azar | ming no |
| 21:13.03 | pipeline | Baloo: All-windows :\ |
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| 21:13.08 | nethenson | can i get the etch installer in the testing-cds? |
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| 21:13.30 | Azar | ming it is easy and fast : find the kernel for your cpu type then : aptitude install it |
| 21:13.41 | Azar | ming you want a 2.6.8 kernel? |
| 21:13.59 | ming | if that can possibly fix this sound problem |
| 21:14.06 | Azar | ming , most likely |
| 21:14.21 | ming | what will happen to the 2.4 kernel |
| 21:14.22 | ming | ? |
| 21:14.27 | Azar | kspath, what you think ? |
| 21:14.40 | Azar | ming the 2.4 series kernels are old |
| 21:15.04 | ming | does it just get deleted when i install the 2.6.8? |
| 21:15.21 | Azar | I guess it gets overwritten |
| 21:15.42 | kspath | Azar: I try not to think. What were you asking me? |
| 21:15.51 | nethenson | vin`: so... could I use etch kernel but the rest (bash, kde, apache...) from stable? |
| 21:16.07 | Azar | kspath: should ming upgrade the kernel from 2.4 to 2.6.8 in sarge in order to have his sound fixed? |
| 21:16.18 | deadcat_ | i have a /data partition which spits out error when i transfer huge files to it. if i remake this fs, can it ignore those sectors or something? |
| 21:16.24 | evaded | nethenson: If really needed, take an kernel of kernel.org?? |
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| 21:16.52 | kspath | Azar: It is worth a try. You can always go back assuming there is not a lack of support of something older in the 2.6 kernel. |
| 21:16.53 | Azar | ming, I am careful to recommend you anything else because I am not cozy with laptops |
| 21:17.12 | nethenson | evaded: yes, but a kernel.org kernel doesn't make the CD boot :) |
| 21:17.16 | ming | ok |
| 21:17.29 | evaded | nethenson: Aaai, right! |
| 21:17.46 | Azar | ming after installing, configuring all about alsa and still does not work, I really do not know what to say anymore |
| 21:17.48 | ming | so do i type in the command, apt-cache search 2.6.8 |
| 21:17.57 | ming | and find the right one? |
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| 21:18.03 | evaded | ming: Try |
| 21:18.04 | Azar | ming yes look for your CPU type |
| 21:18.04 | deadcat_ | try it |
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| 21:18.13 | stew | ming: /msg dpkg sarge upgrade kernel |
| 21:18.23 | Azar | then : aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8-<yourcputypehere> |
| 21:18.25 | evaded | ming: It's an search command, you do nothings bad with it ;-) |
| 21:18.33 | TaF | trying to add the best and/or newest debian repositories to synaptic....help? |
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| 21:18.55 | Azar | TaF you did not read the link I gave you : apt primer |
| 21:19.00 | Azar | TaF please do so |
| 21:19.24 | evaded | ming: Probably you want to 'pipe' the output of it to an other application. Try 'apt-cache search 2.6.8 | more' |
| 21:19.28 | deadcat_ | i have a /data partition which spits out error when i transfer huge files to it. if i remake this fs, can it ignore those sectors or something? |
| 21:19.32 | tim_flatus | ming, what are you trying to do? Just upgrading the kernel won't fix your sound issues unless you know the 2.6 series has drivers for your card which 2.4 doesn't |
| 21:19.51 | deadcat_ | bad lag here. |
| 21:20.13 | stew | tim_flatus: debians 2.6 kernels have alsa and the 2.4 kernels don't |
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| 21:20.21 | stew | ChanServ: wb |
| 21:20.38 | petemc | deadcat_: dont you have a warranty on the drive? |
| 21:20.40 | tim_flatus | stew, so more chance of configuring it ootb? fair enough. |
| 21:20.43 | ming | umm |
| 21:20.44 | vin` | nethenson: if you want to use sarge with a newer kernel, /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 21:21.01 | deadcat_ | petemc: i think so. but its an ibook. and i dont have macosx installed. you think they will let me? |
| 21:21.21 | petemc | deadcat_: probably, do you have applecare? |
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| 21:21.22 | vin` | nethenson: with etch, install packages that are available in etch. |
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| 21:21.38 | deadcat_ | petemc: ya. ok i better email the local mac guys (= |
| 21:21.38 | deadcat_ | thanks |
| 21:21.42 | ming | ok, i have installed the 2.6.8 kernel |
| 21:22.07 | Azar | ming now I am not sure you will have to do alsaconf again, try |
| 21:22.15 | stew | ming: reboot, then /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 21:22.27 | Azar | I am not sure anymore what configurations need to be done or not, I allways redo all |
| 21:23.10 | Azar | ming: like stew said |
| 21:23.29 | vin` | nethenson: but if you're used to the bleeding edge of gentoo, you might be better off with testing (etch). |
| 21:23.44 | ming | ok |
| 21:23.47 | ming | brb then |
| 21:24.18 | hjubal | bye |
| 21:24.52 | nethenson | vin`: i prefer debian stable, it is going to be a server.. I dont want to go from foobar_daemon-2.0 to foobard_daemon-3.0 and have to reconfigure everything |
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| 21:25.12 | vin` | nethenson: ok, then stick with sarge. |
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| 21:26.34 | dynamite | Hi, im experiencing problems |
| 21:26.43 | dynamite | I need apt-get to work through a local proxy server |
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| 21:26.48 | dynamite | how do i do that? |
| 21:26.51 | hcy | hey, anybody know why when i right-click on an image and then save it, mozilla downloads the image afresh? Why can't it just use the one it obviously already downloaded in order to display in my browser? It really slows things down. Is there a way to change this behavior? |
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| 21:27.18 | jelly | hcy: a proxy? ;-) |
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| 21:27.48 | D-fence | I used "dpkg-reconfigure locale" to change the locale. It works for root but not for my usual user ?! Any idea ? |
| 21:28.13 | anhi | is there a problem with xorg7 and thunderbird? cant get a gui to show up |
| 21:28.16 | jelly | hcy: (sorry, I don't use mozilla so I can't give more useful suggstion) |
| 21:28.41 | ming | wow, i have sound |
| 21:28.49 | xam | D-fence: because it sets the system-wide locale (in /etc/environment). If you want to change your user locale, set it in your .profile or .bashrc or whatever |
| 21:29.01 | jelly | ming: sadly, that's an accomplishment in Linux. |
| 21:29.58 | tim_flatus | ming, :) |
| 21:29.58 | D-fence | ok |
| 21:29.58 | ming | should i still follow the instructions on /msg dpkg alsa one-liner? |
| 21:29.58 | TaF | it may as well be written in hebrew |
| 21:29.59 | vin` | ming: no need now. |
| 21:29.59 | TaF | i am looking at it now |
| 21:29.59 | ming | ok |
| 21:29.59 | ming | thanks so much you guys |
| 21:30.03 | nethenson | vin`: what do you think about: I install the base from an etch-cd, then use /etc/apt/preferences to tell apt-get to get everything from stable (downgrading if necesary), except the kernel-image, that should be gotten from testing? Is it stupid? |
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| 21:30.30 | vin` | nethenson: that won't work well, /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 instead. |
| 21:30.32 | stew | nethenson: mixing stable and testing packages is not a good idea, go with all testing or all stable or stable with backports |
| 21:30.37 | Silent_al | !×š×©×¨× ×“×Ÿ×š×§×ž×_שך |
| 21:30.44 | Silent_al | !lart silent_al |
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| 21:32.00 | Silent_al | heh |
| 21:32.12 | dynamite | I need apt-get to work through a local proxy server |
| 21:32.13 | dynamite | how do i do that? |
| 21:32.17 | nethenson | stew: will I get 2.6.15 with backports? |
| 21:32.24 | nethenson | vin`: thank for the link :) |
| 21:32.28 | D-fence | xam: my /etc/environment is correct but I can't find any reference to a "custom" locale in bashrc or bash_profile or wherever ? So, my system wide locale should work for all users ?! |
| 21:32.43 | stew | nethenson: yes. but only post install. if you need it in order to successfully install then /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
| 21:32.43 | Baloo | A better lart is to sit on the luser's head and fart. Bonus points if you recently had Taco Bell burritos, bonus points if you're a large animal like a bear... |
| 21:33.08 | stew | dynamite: man apt.conf |
| 21:34.00 | htrp | is there anyone using 'webmin' ? |
| 21:34.15 | SlayerXP | htrp: yes, idiots. |
| 21:34.23 | stew | htrp: popcon.debian.org will tell you |
| 21:34.32 | xam | D-fence: well, the user should pick up the system-wide default locale automatically, but /etc/environment is only used on boot or login. So you might want at least to logout/login for the changes to be visible to the user. Also many x session managers (xdm/kdm/gdm) let the user allow to choose their locale ... |
| 21:34.59 | D-fence | xam: Ah, ok |
| 21:35.24 | htrp | SlayerXP: suck a dick |
| 21:35.29 | D-fence | xam: Note that I rebooted since my last dpkg-reconfigure |
| 21:35.30 | boolka | can one compile from source in debian so it will be as fast as in gentoo? |
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| 21:36.03 | SlayerXP | htrp: thanks, but I've eaten already. |
| 21:36.04 | TaF | ok, i read this doc.... still in the dark |
| 21:36.05 | ryan` | does debian's wget have SSL disabled? |
| 21:36.15 | azeem | ryan`: the one in stable might, yes |
| 21:36.21 | azeem | not sure |
| 21:36.27 | stew | it does |
| 21:36.28 | kspath | htrp: SlayerXP was trying to indicate that webmin is not the most ideal/secure way of doing admin work. It is often intended for those ignorant of administration work. |
| 21:36.36 | azeem | ryan`: also check for a seperate wget-ssl package |
| 21:36.36 | veleno | hello. i did a apt-get update upgrade, and i can't log into X anymore. what is the state of sid at the moment ? :-( |
| 21:36.43 | vin` | boolka: debian from scratch. |
| 21:36.45 | azeem | veleno: see topic |
| 21:36.53 | stew | !depends wget |
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| 21:36.55 | ryan` | no wget-ssl package. |
| 21:37.01 | dpkg | wget: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libssl0.9.8 |
| 21:37.06 | stew | ryan`: ^^^ |
| 21:37.07 | ryan` | o_O |
| 21:37.07 | cheal | boolka: of course |
| 21:37.13 | xam | D-fence: so what are the LANG and LANGUAGE variables set to? |
| 21:37.16 | ryan` | ok, well, it doesn't work, tho..... |
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| 21:37.29 | dynamite | Where is the apt.conf supposed to be located? |
| 21:37.41 | dynamite | ./etc/apt |
| 21:37.45 | dynamite | ? |
| 21:37.49 | D-fence | xam: LANG=fr_BE.UTF-8 .... for root |
| 21:37.51 | cheal | dynamite: if it exists, /etc/apt |
| 21:37.51 | TaF | i read the page... still in the dark. is there a reason (other than im just too dumb) that i still dont understand what i am doing? |
| 21:37.58 | stew | dynamite: yes, /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 21:38.02 | D-fence | LANG= |
| 21:38.02 | D-fence | LC_CTYPE="POSIX" |
| 21:38.03 | boolka | and if i go that path ( complie from scratch) its a bigger chance to screw up ? |
| 21:38.09 | D-fence | for my user |
| 21:38.16 | stew | dynamite: or you can drop a file into /etc/apt/apt.conf.d |
| 21:38.21 | dynamite | theres only an /etc/apt/apt.conf.d |
| 21:38.21 | cheal | TaF: which page? |
| 21:38.30 | dynamite | whats that file for? |
| 21:38.34 | TaF | the quick reference on apt |
| 21:38.46 | dynamite | its empty |
| 21:38.51 | kspath | TaF: You might need to step away from it and take a break and read it again. |
| 21:38.51 | cheal | TaF: and what are you doing? |
| 21:38.58 | Azar | TaF, it is ok you are just new to it: Debian uses apt as a tool for "downloading" and "installing" packages. The url "sources" that uses to access the "software"(packages) repositories are important too |
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| 21:39.08 | stew | dynamite: that means you are currently using all of the defaults. to see what that file is for, man apt.conf |
| 21:39.29 | Azar | TaF there are 3 main Debian versions: stable(Sarge), testing(Etch) and unstable(Sid). Each have their own repositories |
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| 21:39.48 | TaF | i have an etch repository in synaptic |
| 21:39.55 | TaF | and i have one from my vendor |
| 21:39.59 | ryan` | hmmmm |
| 21:40.05 | Azar | TaF : stable(Sarge) is the... stable version and will only get security upgrades. |
| 21:40.09 | xam | D-fence: ermm, that is strange. at least all the debian/testing systems here don't mess with LANG or even set LC_CTYPE ... it is once set /etc/environment, and that's it. I guess some kdm/gdm or KDE/Gnome respectively changes your user locale |
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| 21:40.16 | kspath | TaF: vendor? |
| 21:40.22 | TaF | tafusion |
| 21:40.37 | TaF | precompiled operating system with mepis, kde |
| 21:40.38 | Azar | TaF so you have installed Etch? |
| 21:40.40 | freeone3000 | 'stable' as in, outdated, but it's going to work, by golly gee, come hail, or hurricane, or power failure. |
| 21:40.51 | Azar | TaF ..... not debian? |
| 21:40.59 | stew | TaF: oh, you aren't running debian. then you really shouldn't be seeking help in here |
| 21:41.18 | Azar | TaF, sorry, then we can't help you |
| 21:41.25 | TaF | this is a gnu debian system |
| 21:41.25 | jelly | freeone3000: now let's not go too far, my stable fails on power failure. |
| 21:41.42 | kspath | TaF that apt information will still be helpful likely. |
| 21:41.57 | vin` | TaF: it is based on debian, not the real thing. |
| 21:41.58 | kspath | TaF: #debian is for support of Debian. |
| 21:41.59 | Azar | TaF, it is ok just for you to know: a Debian-based distro, is NOT Debian. Mepis is a distro, not Debian |
| 21:42.05 | xam | D-fence: look at the KDE control center (or the one for GNOME, whatever you use), and make sure the locale which is set there is 'system default' or at least the same you selected with dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 21:42.07 | TaF | i see |
| 21:42.07 | thingfish | !based on |
| 21:42.08 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 21:42.12 | Azar | kspath: take it easy he is new at linux |
| 21:42.17 | sgeigerbot | I have a plextor USB cd/dvd-rw...and I can't figure out what /dev/<xxx> it is on. I was able to burn CDs from it using cdrecord and dev=0,0,0...but I don't know hot to access it from dd. /dev/sg0 isn't working. Any more ideas? |
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| 21:42.39 | samuel | whats the package i need to build packages plz? |
| 21:42.41 | kspath | Azar: I was actually gentle. /lastlog kspath |
| 21:42.47 | citral | how can I do in etch to disable autoloading of modules by the kernel ? |
| 21:42.50 | vin` | samuel: build-essential |
| 21:42.55 | stew | samuel: what do you mean exactly? |
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| 21:43.02 | stew | citral: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 21:43.03 | TaF | well, this all makes a lot more sense now |
| 21:43.07 | kspath | samuel: what is plz? |
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| 21:43.23 | xam | sgeigerbot: usually it should be /dev/scd0 ... |
| 21:43.45 | TaF | damn, there probably wont be a channel for the distro i have then |
| 21:43.45 | dynamite | stew: So if i only need apt-get to use a proxy i only set one option in the file? |
| 21:43.55 | citral | stew: I was going to say "dont tell me /modprobe.d/blacklist" cause it doesn't work |
| 21:43.55 | stew | sgeigerbot: have you modrpobed sr_mod? read through dmesg? |
| 21:43.57 | TaF | maybe i should just reformat and install debian |
| 21:43.58 | kspath | TaF: You can start one. |
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| 21:44.05 | thingfish | TaF: good idea! |
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| 21:44.08 | TaF | haha |
| 21:44.11 | kspath | TaF: Debian is likely a better option. |
| 21:44.12 | freeone3000 | TaF: Well, only if you want help from here. |
| 21:44.22 | stew | dynamite: yes |
| 21:44.22 | citral | stew: this boring pcspkr get loaded anyway |
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| 21:44.45 | TaF | i guess i was looking for ease of use when i bought this copy |
| 21:44.54 | cw666 | does Martin Schulze lurk here? |
| 21:45.04 | azeem | cw666: no |
| 21:45.04 | stew | citral: checked the bts? you can always just rename the .ko to something else and run depmod -a so that the kernel can't find it to load it |
| 21:45.10 | dynamite | so its http_proxy http://IP-ADDRESS:PORT ? |
| 21:45.12 | cw666 | azeem: email best then? |
| 21:45.14 | freeone3000 | Meh. X and KDE install fast. |
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| 21:45.17 | azeem | cw666: yes |
| 21:45.18 | samuel | stew, i want to build packages that are empty - that just have deps to install other packages |
| 21:45.22 | cw666 | azeem: thanks |
| 21:45.36 | stew | dynamite: no i don't think so |
| 21:45.39 | dynamite | :O |
| 21:45.39 | citral | stew: yeah, mv pcspkr.ko pcspkr.ko.old will be my solution I think |
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| 21:46.23 | dynamite | ffs |
| 21:46.32 | kspath | dynamite: What is ffs? |
| 21:46.33 | vin` | samuel: equivs |
| 21:46.38 | stew | samuel: i think the "equivs" package is what you are looking for |
| 21:46.45 | jelly | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://127.0.0.1:8080"; |
| 21:46.47 | samuel | thanks |
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| 21:46.53 | dynamite | kspath: i need to set a proxy for apt-get but im to thick |
| 21:47.22 | kspath | dynamite: Try to be patient with yourself. Take a 5-10 minute break and come back to it. |
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| 21:47.30 | jelly | dynamite: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://127.0.0.1:8080"; <-- into apt.conf |
| 21:47.34 | _rockstar | Hi all! |
| 21:47.44 | dynamite | sorry for bugging you guys :| |
| 21:47.46 | _rockstar | It has been FOREVER since I've been in here. |
| 21:47.48 | Alam_Linux | how do i pipe stdout and studerr to a file? #> err.log |
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| 21:48.13 | stew | Alam_Linux: 2>&1 > err.log |
| 21:48.28 | dynamite | And what about setting general connection via a proxy ? |
| 21:48.29 | xam | dynamite: setting $http_proxy the way you said works fine for me for ages |
| 21:48.29 | Alam_Linux | thank |
| 21:48.31 | dynamite | where is that done ? |
| 21:48.34 | stew | Alam_Linux: 2>&1 redirects stderr to stdout, then > err.log redirects stdout to file |
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| 21:49.09 | WoodyWoodpecker | stew: &> err.log works too |
| 21:49.13 | dynamite | How do I set a general proxy server for outgoing connections ? |
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| 21:49.30 | kspath | Alam_Linux: pipe is | redirect is > append is >> |
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| 21:49.38 | Alam_Linux | and if there still some stuff print to the terminal? |
| 21:49.47 | xam | dynamite: I've set it in /etc/environment, but you should be able to set it in /etc/profile, .profile or .bashrc or whatever you like ... |
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| 21:49.55 | dynamite | ok |
| 21:50.01 | dynamite | whats the var? |
| 21:50.01 | nethenson | vin`: I am downloading the sarge2.6.15 .iso, but it is just 130MB... will I be able to use packages from my Official Sarge 3.1r1 DVD? |
| 21:50.05 | dynamite | $http_proxy? |
| 21:50.13 | jelly | dynamite: most programs look at the environment variable http_proxy, so export http_proxy="http://wherever:port/" |
| 21:50.42 | _rockstar | nethenson: Yes, but make sure your dependencies are ok. |
| 21:50.52 | xam | dynamite: http_proxy=http://somewebproxy:port/ |
| 21:50.52 | dynamite | mhh |
| 21:50.59 | dynamite | no " ? |
| 21:51.05 | jelly | optional |
| 21:51.11 | _rockstar | If your libraries from apt are newer or older, than you might run into problems. |
| 21:51.19 | nethenson | _rockstar: that my dependencies are ok?? |
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| 21:51.22 | TaF | ok peeps, i am literally going to get debian, install it, and if it seems as easy to use as the distro i currently have, i will put my existing copy on the shelf for good |
| 21:51.27 | dynamite | irssi dont use that war :D |
| 21:51.28 | xam | dynamite: usually not necessary, but won't harm |
| 21:51.33 | dynamite | var* |
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| 21:51.56 | _rockstar | nethenson: The netinst is going to download the newest and greatest of the libraries--probably not a big deal if you're still running stable. |
| 21:52.27 | cire | There's a german linux radio channel which broadcasts in ".pls" format. Which player is able to play this? |
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| 21:52.46 | zinx | cire: ".pls" is a playlist |
| 21:52.53 | nethenson | cire, I used xmms for that |
| 21:52.54 | marco13185 | hmm, I edited my grub config to add a splash, and now (even after reverting to the old config) I boot into busybox instead of my normal system |
| 21:52.54 | zinx | cire: it just contains urls to the actual stream |
| 21:53.01 | xam | dynamite: you might also want to use 'export http_proxy', so that that variable is also inherited to subshells/subprocesses |
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| 21:53.14 | zinx | cire: which is usually mp3 |
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| 21:53.27 | cire | zinx: so should I download them, and put them in playlist? |
| 21:53.29 | cusco | libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libdirectfb-dev (>= 0.9.22) but it is not going to be installed |
| 21:53.38 | cusco | on sid amd64 |
| 21:53.48 | marco13185 | I edited my grub config to add a splash, and now (even after reverting to the old config) I boot into busybox instead of my normal system. Can I fix this? |
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| 21:53.56 | cusco | broken packages |
| 21:53.57 | cusco | :| |
| 21:54.00 | TaF | what does the room recommend? minimal bootable cd image? |
| 21:54.29 | xam | TaF: I usually use the netinstall cd ... |
| 21:54.31 | azeem | TaF: what kind of internet access will you haveß? |
| 21:54.37 | cheal | !room |
| 21:54.37 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 21:54.39 | TaF | broadband |
| 21:54.44 | TaF | about 5 meg down |
| 21:54.46 | azeem | TaF: DSL? |
| 21:54.53 | azeem | or ethernet via DHCP? |
| 21:54.56 | TaF | cable |
| 21:55.00 | azeem | so DHCP? |
| 21:55.03 | TaF | yes |
| 21:55.15 | azeem | then the businesscard and/or netinst should suffice |
| 21:55.15 | xam | TaF: that's is plenty enough. |
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| 21:55.19 | TaF | you guys are awesome by the way |
| 21:55.24 | xam | s/is// |
| 21:55.39 | TaF | its like stepping over from the dark side |
| 21:55.54 | TaF | netsinstall ha? |
| 21:55.56 | xam | TaF: don't be fooled, we ARE the dark side! |
| 21:56.03 | TaF | yeah! |
| 21:56.06 | cheal | hehehe |
| 21:56.22 | TaF | i thought you were vanilla debian and i was strawberry? |
| 21:56.28 | TaF | ah well, no matter |
| 21:57.00 | marco13185 | I edited my grub config to add a splash, and now (even after reverting to the old config) I boot into busybox instead of my normal system. Can I fix this? |
| 21:57.07 | TaF | is there a lot of compiling to do? |
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| 21:57.21 | azeem | TaF: no |
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| 21:57.28 | azeem | TaF: at most for some kernel modules |
| 21:57.32 | xam | TaF: it's like a 100-150MB size CD which contains the minimal base install of debian, then it updates and you install all the rest over the internet (X11, KDE/Gnome, Office-Apps etc.) |
| 21:57.36 | TaF | you will be sick when i tell you what i had to do with my current os |
| 21:57.42 | azeem | TaF: unless you decide you need it, of course |
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| 21:57.57 | azeem | make that "need" it |
| 21:57.59 | cusco | sid amd64 can u install the libsdl1.2-dev package? |
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| 21:58.32 | azeem | cusco: I'm not aware of breakage but could be that it isn't installable right now |
| 21:58.33 | TaF | i popped in the cd, clicked install me, and 15 minutes later, i had a full linux os |
| 21:58.45 | azeem | cusco: do you get an error message, or was that just a question? |
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| 21:58.52 | cusco | azeem: broklen packages |
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| 21:59.02 | azeem | cusco: paste the full error to a pastebin |
| 21:59.04 | azeem | !paster |
| 21:59.04 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 21:59.45 | TaF | ill be back in a while |
| 21:59.51 | marco13185 | I edited my grub config to add a splash, and now (even after reverting to the old config) I boot into busybox instead of my normal system. Can I fix this? |
| 21:59.54 | TaF | gotta run to the post office while this downloads |
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| 22:00.26 | cusco | azeem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2439 |
| 22:00.35 | kspath | TaF: It has questions before it starts to "download" and it should be done before you get to any postoffice. |
| 22:00.51 | xam | TaF: on debian compiling things is avoided when possible. Many/most people don't compile ANY application - even the kernel -, except in the rare occations when there a tool is no in debian's repository (e.g. due to legal resons, because it is too old or too new, or not popular enough) |
| 22:01.05 | kspath | TaF: Oh you were talking about downloading the ISO imame. |
| 22:01.10 | kspath | image |
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| 22:01.40 | TaF | yeah, just the iso for now |
| 22:01.52 | TaF | ill make a cd then use it to install |
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| 22:02.07 | _Atomo64_ | Hi, does anybody knows when does the gcc/gcc1 problems is going to be solved for etch? |
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| 22:02.29 | kspath | TaF: 8x DAO(disk-at-once) is a good way to burn ISOs when possible. |
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| 22:02.35 | marco13185 | I edited my grub config to add a splash, and now (even after reverting to the old config) I boot into busybox instead of my normal system. Can I fix this? |
| 22:02.52 | TaF | i have k3b... i think i have dao tao and other options |
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| 22:03.17 | sylvain_ | can emule an image file created by dd if=/dev/zero of=image.img ? |
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| 22:03.43 | azeem | cusco: try to install libdirectfb-dev directy with apt-get install in such cases, and see for further hints |
| 22:03.45 | xam | sylvain: can emule <what> ? |
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| 22:03.54 | marco13185 | can anyone please help me? |
| 22:03.56 | marco13185 | can anyone please help me? |
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| 22:03.59 | marco13185 | I edited my grub config to add a splash, and now (even after reverting to the old config) I boot into busybox instead of my normal system. Can I fix this? |
| 22:04.05 | zleap | what do you need help with?@ |
| 22:04.07 | TaF | oh! one quick question....... not that i have to have to do it this way, but is it safe to install multiple linux os on one system? |
| 22:04.13 | sgeigerbot | stew: thanks for the encouragement. dmesg did display the info after all. I apparently didn't noticied it the first time I looked. I had to restart the drive for it to actually work with the device (/dev/sr0) |
| 22:04.30 | sylvain_ | xam, emule |
| 22:04.31 | marco13185 | zleap, I edited my grub config to add a splash, and now (even after reverting to the old config) I boot into busybox instead of my normal system. Can I fix this? |
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| 22:04.35 | kspath | marco13185: Please do not scoll the channel with that. Just ask the real question(s) please. |
| 22:04.44 | sylvain_ | xam, with an emulator like qemu |
| 22:04.49 | marco13185 | kspath, that's not a fucking question? |
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| 22:05.19 | marco13185 | look, I want to know why the hell it's booting into busybox, I have no idea why it would do that, and why busybox wouldn't detect half my filesystem even though it's there |
| 22:05.23 | sgeigerbot | kspath: Read what he wrote. It was a question. |
| 22:05.46 | cusco | azeem: sorry I made a mistake.. Im trying to take a friend to compile armagetronad 2.8 ( www.armagetronad.net ) and it needs libsdl image.. check http://channels.debian.net/paste/2440 ... I compiled it easy.. but he has sid |
| 22:05.48 | zleap | what is set to boot by default |
| 22:06.00 | kspath | sgeigerbot: He asked twice "can anyone please help me?" before asking a real question. |
| 22:06.02 | TaF | safe to have different linux os on same comp? |
| 22:06.04 | marco13185 | zleap, it's supposed to start gdm |
| 22:06.09 | xam | sylvain_: sorry, I can't parse what you type ... |
| 22:06.17 | azeem | cusco: this is backwards :) |
| 22:06.19 | marco13185 | kspath, because I've been asking for a while, lets stop arguing and get to the issue |
| 22:06.24 | zleap | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:06.34 | maxxle | . |
| 22:06.41 | zleap | is't the deisplay manager called from someplace else |
| 22:06.54 | azeem | cusco: you need to try to install every package it says is uninstallable unless you get a decent error message |
| 22:06.58 | sylvain_ | xam, i want to build my own image file, and i want load it with qemu |
| 22:07.01 | azeem | eh, s/unless/until/ |
| 22:07.03 | zleap | like inittab |
| 22:07.14 | cusco | azeem: yes that is backwards.. jeee eevruy package.. packagee leeds to anotehr and another.. oh well ok |
| 22:07.32 | marco13185 | zleap, I'm not too knowledgable about linux, this is all I did before rebooting. Install KOffice, install grubconf, install splashscreen package, edit /boot/grub |
| 22:07.35 | azeem | cusco: well, it's unstable |
| 22:07.56 | cusco | I know :| |
| 22:08.00 | marco13185 | zleap, busybox gives this error /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off |
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| 22:08.13 | zleap | is busybox a window manager or a distro |
| 22:08.22 | GenNMX | Hi. Has anyone had trouble mounting UFS with Etch? I keep getting ufs_read_super: bad magic number, even though I'm specifying the FreeBSD slice. |
| 22:08.23 | azeem | cusco: when you know which package exactly is messing things up, you can check the bugs for that for work-arounds and/or get older known-to-work versions of it from e.g. snapshot.debian.net |
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| 22:08.38 | _Atomo64_ | Hi, does anybody knows when does the gcc/gcc1 problems is going to be solved for etch? |
| 22:08.47 | xam | sylvain_: I see. Most emulators allow you to use binary image files, created with 'dd' from a hard disk or via mkfs and a loopback file. So I guess qemu should not make any exception |
| 22:08.55 | azeem | _Atomo64_: which problems exactly? |
| 22:08.59 | sgeigerbot | marco13185: If I were you, I would boot from my favorite live CD or other boot disk, chroot into the filesystem that contains the grub package, and then do "sudo update-grub" and also "sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst" and look for reasons why grub might be loading the wrong OS. |
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| 22:09.06 | TaF | ok, im guessing it is...haha |
| 22:09.08 | TaF | ill find out' |
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| 22:09.31 | azeem | TaF: pretty safe, yes |
| 22:09.43 | azeem | TaF: unless you start to share parts of the filesystem |
| 22:09.43 | marco13185 | sgeigerbot, well, I did. The only thing I changed is the splashscreen, and then I changed it back in knoppix |
| 22:09.44 | _Atomo64_ | azeem: I have packages conflicts because some of them requires libgcc1 and others requires libgcc ... |
| 22:09.51 | marco13185 | busybox is NOT an OS |
| 22:09.56 | marco13185 | it's like an all in one shell |
| 22:09.57 | GenNMX | marco13185: Your system isn't loading the correct OS? I had that problem recently. Do you have a PCI-connected IDE controller by any chance? |
| 22:10.11 | azeem | TaF: /home might still be safe, but differing versions might get confused about their configuration files |
| 22:10.11 | marco13185 | I DON'T even have busybox installed |
| 22:10.15 | zleap | ah |
| 22:10.25 | azeem | _Atomo64_: paste the error to a pastebing |
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| 22:10.27 | marco13185 | zleap GenNMX sgeigerbot, read this http://www.busybox.net/about.html |
| 22:10.27 | azeem | !paster |
| 22:10.27 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 22:10.31 | TaF | i was worried about configuration mostly |
| 22:10.33 | sylvain_ | xam, oki, but it seems that my image file (that i've created) not appears bootable ... there is a way to make it bootable ? |
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| 22:10.36 | stew | _Atomo64_: be more specific. show us what command you are typing and what errors you are getting: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 22:10.41 | zleap | thanks |
| 22:11.03 | TaF | my poor harddrive, i have reinstalled my os like 10 times |
| 22:11.16 | kspath | TaF: good practice. |
| 22:11.30 | TaF | haha! i wish... it was point and click remember? |
| 22:11.38 | marco13185 | zleap GenNMX sgeigerbot, basically I reboot my system expecting my sick metallica splash, and instead I get this busybox BS |
| 22:11.40 | TaF | mepis installed itself |
| 22:12.01 | _rockstar | Anyone use a the Buffalo LinkStation NAS system? I just got one, want to "play" with it. |
| 22:12.06 | GenNMX | marco13185: Yes, newer versions of Debian now load BusyBox to a Ramdrive upon a Kernel Panic to help you diagnose the issue. |
| 22:12.13 | kspath | TaF: virii do that. |
| 22:12.23 | zleap | sounds like something has installed it perhaps |
| 22:12.23 | vin` | TaF: debian is pretty straight forward usually, leave something heavy on the return key. |
| 22:12.25 | xam | sylvain: errm, I don't use qemu, but usually when you use an emulator you have a tool to create the virual harddisks and to select the image file you want to use ... |
| 22:12.32 | TaF | lol |
| 22:12.38 | _rockstar | vin`: THAT IS HILARIOUS! |
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| 22:12.46 | _Atomo64_ | stew,azeem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2442 |
| 22:12.49 | marco13185 | GenNMX, but why the hell would installing a few WMs and editing my grub config cause kernel panik! |
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| 22:13.11 | _Atomo64_ | lol... sorry, I just tried apt-get dist-upgrade and it seems like that's the thing... |
| 22:13.12 | zleap | ok so in busy box, can you get to a console and type cat /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 22:13.16 | sylvain_ | xam, thanks, what is the emulator you use ? |
| 22:13.27 | stew | _Atomo64_: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 22:13.35 | azeem | _Atomo64_: where does that say something about libgcc? |
| 22:13.37 | GenNMX | I was surprised myself when I was stuck with BusyBox when Linux didn't detect my HDDs in the correct order with a PCI IDE Controller connected. |
| 22:13.53 | GenNMX | Must be new with Etch, it wasn't in Sarge. |
| 22:13.54 | marco13185 | zleap, if I remember correct busybox doesn't see half my filesystem |
| 22:14.01 | marco13185 | GenNMX, I'm running sid |
| 22:14.09 | zleap | it's only a very basic linux |
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| 22:14.12 | _rockstar | GenNMX: Etch is testing? |
| 22:14.17 | jelly | vin`: I actually used the something-heavy-on-the-R-key technique to read off some floppies ... maybe 10-15 years ago |
| 22:14.22 | GenNMX | Yeah, if it's in Etch, it should be in Sid. |
| 22:14.29 | vin` | marco13185: tried running update-grub? |
| 22:14.29 | zleap | i got sid here |
| 22:14.32 | GenNMX | _rockstar: It's the current Testing, yes |
| 22:14.40 | marco13185 | vin`, you think it's a grub issue? |
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| 22:14.46 | _Atomo64_ | azeem, stew: I'll try the dist-upgrade first, It seems like that will solve it... ... etch is now in beta2? I think it's that |
| 22:15.08 | azeem | _Atomo64_: oh well |
| 22:15.19 | vin` | marco13185: probably, if that is the only thing you've edited, installing WMs should not affect the boot process. |
| 22:15.27 | xam | sylvain: well, currently I don't use any .. I used uae, bochs and even virtual PC ... right now the only thing that comes close to an emulator that I use is intels ia32el softeware CPU emulator |
| 22:15.30 | azeem | _Atomo64_: you can try that, but I am not sure what exactly you're trying to solve |
| 22:15.37 | stew | _Atomo64_: no, the installer is. there is no real "beta" for a new release. at some point it will change from being "testing" to being "frozen" however |
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| 22:15.50 | zleap | in grub it seems the first os in the list is default |
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| 22:15.58 | GenNMX | marco13185: Busybox is installed to a Ramdrive. You need to manually mount your partitions and look at what modifications you made to grub -- they are most likely the culprit. |
| 22:16.00 | seb-- | Does DEBIAN create /etc/ttyUSB0 when NEEDED? (It seems to come and go!?!?) |
| 22:16.02 | xam | zleap: you can change that ;) |
| 22:16.10 | stew | zleap: no, whichever number you set to "default" in menu.lst |
| 22:16.30 | _Atomo64_ | stew: well, if I try apt-get upgrade I get that msg that I pastbin; but with dist-upgrade it gives me all those packages but for upgrading... |
| 22:16.34 | stew | seb--: if you run devfs or udev it would |
| 22:16.37 | vin` | jelly: there was a story of a 6 year old installing debian in d-u yesterday I think. |
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| 22:16.52 | GenNMX | marco13185: As far as I can tell, Debian's BusyBox for Kernel Panics doesn't mount anything by default. There should be mount in /bin |
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| 22:16.53 | xam | seb--: when you have installed the udev package, then many devices come and go when needed |
| 22:16.58 | stew | _Atomo64_: yes, that is normal. do you understand what the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade are? |
| 22:17.07 | marco13185 | GenNMX, ok |
| 22:17.12 | CraZyLeGs | is free-java-sdk the original java sdk ? |
| 22:17.19 | seb-- | xam: ahh! how make /dev/ttyUSB0 get created for my usb wifi modem? |
| 22:17.25 | zhengyi | man, if six year olds are installing Debian now, will all everyone else shut up about the installer finally? |
| 22:17.26 | stew | CraZyLeGs: no, the original java sdk is not free |
| 22:17.28 | seb-- | xam, stew: thanks, btw |
| 22:17.28 | zleap | ah |
| 22:17.29 | marco13185 | GenNMX, might installing a generic grub through knoppix solve the problem? |
| 22:17.29 | stu7 | help ! as of last night, when I redirect LS to a file, it is filled with [['s and other line code... anybody know how to correct this ? |
| 22:17.36 | zleap | so 0 is the first entry |
| 22:17.38 | _Atomo64_ | azeem: I tried to install some packages(like kftpgrabber) but I get a dependencies problem, releated about gcc1 |
| 22:17.40 | marco13185 | GenNMX, just a simplistic grub to boot windows and debian |
| 22:17.53 | azeem | _Atomo64_: well, paste those |
| 22:17.55 | stew | _Atomo64_: if you want help with that problem, show us the actual error |
| 22:17.56 | zleap | i am too used to editing lilo |
| 22:17.58 | xam | CraZyLeGs: no, IIRC it means what is says, only free stuff (jikes, kaffee, gij/gcj) |
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| 22:18.02 | GenNMX | marco13185: Rewriting your grub files would also work, yes. You shouldn't even need to rewrite the grub to the MBR. |
| 22:18.11 | GenNMX | It's most likely your configuration. |
| 22:18.22 | CraZyLeGs | stew: ok, well is it safe, because I want to install a software and it asks for the java sdk to be installed |
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| 22:18.32 | marco13185 | GenNMX, k, I'll brb on knoppix |
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| 22:18.40 | stew | stu7: you must have ls aliased to run "ls --color" or "ls --color=always" you can change that alias to "ls --color=auto" or run /bin/ls > file |
| 22:18.44 | _Atomo64_ | azeem,stew: first I'll try the dist-upgrade |
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| 22:18.54 | CraZyLeGs | safe as in the software will run without problems |
| 22:18.56 | stew | CraZyLeGs: what software? /msg dpkg install java |
| 22:19.01 | zleap | what have you got in /boot |
| 22:19.16 | GenNMX | Does anyone here have experience with Ontrack's DDO Overlay, OnTrackDM6 partitions? |
| 22:19.24 | CraZyLeGs | stew: compiere ERP |
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| 22:19.26 | ryan` | ugh |
| 22:19.42 | heanol | with make-kpkg, what's the difference between --revision and --append-to-version, what should they be used for? |
| 22:19.45 | ryan` | GenNMX, ick. what do you need to do with them? |
| 22:19.47 | stew | CraZyLeGs: no idea what that is, or whether it will run on a free java, or requires a non-free java |
| 22:20.08 | vin` | heanol: man make-kpkg didn't explain? |
| 22:20.24 | stu7 | stew... yes I do ! but... I've never gotten this extraneous line code previously... stew, I will try --color=auto and /bin/ls though, thx |
| 22:20.24 | CraZyLeGs | compiere is an open source ERP |
| 22:20.25 | heanol | vin`, sorry, i'm rtfmin now.. |
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| 22:20.58 | stew | stu7: "auto" should detect whether or not you are piping it somewhere. /bin/ls will just skip the alias entirely |
| 22:21.05 | GenNMX | ryan`: 160GB HDD on old server that didn't have 48-bit support needed the DDO Overlay. now I built a new server and want to access my data. |
| 22:21.08 | zleap | i am going to have to look at my own grub configs and figure out whats going on |
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| 22:21.15 | zleap | well understnad better |
| 22:21.23 | _rockstar | Hey, does anyone know of a good room for linux security? |
| 22:21.23 | ryan` | GenNMX: And it doesn't work? |
| 22:21.35 | stu7 | ah okey, re-thx stewball :-) |
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| 22:21.44 | xam | seb--: the kernel recognises that you have connected the modem, and runs 'hotplug' (or whatever is mentioned in /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug). This application then creates the devices in /dev. 'hotplug' used to be a different package in debian, but it is now provided/superceded by the udev package |
| 22:21.58 | ryan` | Linux shouldn't care if the BIOS speaks LBA48 or not. |
| 22:22.11 | seb-- | xam: ok, thanks |
| 22:22.16 | stew | xam: i don't think it is either provided by or superceded by udev |
| 22:22.24 | ryan` | GenNMX, have you tried accessing it? |
| 22:22.35 | kspath | !tell _rockstar about room |
| 22:23.08 | GenNMX | ryan`: Yeah, supposedly adding a kernel option like "hdb=remap63" should have allowed Linux to see the single ext3 partition inside. Samsung's Ontrack Utility can see a partition type 83 and a partition type 82 (added a small swap on this drive as it was on another IDE channel), but won't rewrite the DDO Overlay program to its MBR. |
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| 22:23.28 | azeem | kspath: that factoid isn't really informative enough to make dpkg /msg it to users, IMHO |
| 22:23.38 | xam | stew: the task that hotplug was supposed to do is now being done by modprobe and udev in a much simpler implementation |
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| 22:24.03 | ryan` | GenNMX, overlay software tends fo fvck things up. |
| 22:24.05 | xam | sorry module-init-tools |
| 22:24.22 | zleap | udev is better than hotplug i think you need to renove one in order to install the other |
| 22:24.28 | _rockstar | kspath: Been eons since last usage of IRC--thanks. |
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| 22:24.38 | xam | zleap: yes, that is correct |
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| 22:24.43 | GenNMX | I have this damn "OntrackDM6" and now these FreeBSD UFS partitions from a seperate server I need migrated, argh. Maybe I should just wait for that new 300GB HDD I ordered so I can image, wipe, and reformat them all to straight ext3. |
| 22:24.45 | sanmarcos | is ftp us debian down? |
| 22:24.48 | zleap | wb marco |
| 22:24.53 | stew | xam: yes, but hotplug is still available, and is still suppported, and certainly not provided by udev, although most if its functionality is not provided by udev. i don't see hotplug going away anytime soon as there are enough DDs that are very adverse to udev |
| 22:24.59 | _rockstar | zleap is correct. But PURGE hotplug if you install udev. |
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| 22:25.04 | GenNMX | sanmarcos: pings fine. |
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| 22:25.08 | _ericb | here is my problem : I'm currently in windows,, I need to backup a large file (12 gb), and then extract it in linux. In other words, I need a backup solution that works on both windows and linux and that supports archive splitted in multiple files ? I tried winrar, but I'm just unshure about rar for linux supports this features (extracting an archive spawned across multiple files) |
| 22:25.09 | zleap | how do i purge hotplug |
| 22:25.13 | kspath | azeem: I agree. |
| 22:25.14 | marco13185 | GenNMX, okay, I'm in knoppix, can I message you the contents of my grub files? |
| 22:25.15 | ingwe | debian |
| 22:25.16 | _rockstar | He leaves some nasty things behind -- I'm becoming a udev pro. |
| 22:25.20 | ingwe | why |
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| 22:25.25 | seb-- | zleap: apt-get remove --purge hotplug ? |
| 22:25.31 | ingwe | hotplug? |
| 22:25.33 | sanmarcos | 128.101.240.212 is down though, |
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| 22:25.47 | ingwe | it aint down |
| 22:25.52 | GenNMX | sanmarcos: I'm given 216.37.55.114 |
| 22:26.05 | kspath | ingwe: Are you the Wikipedia-Gast thing that was here earlier? |
| 22:26.10 | sanmarcos | yeah, just updated |
| 22:26.13 | zleap | now why can't apt tell me that, rather than just telling me to purge hotpkug |
| 22:26.21 | zleap | hotplug |
| 22:26.27 | ingwe | hotpkug |
| 22:26.30 | GenNMX | marco13185: Go ahead |
| 22:26.33 | zleap | i corrected it |
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| 22:26.43 | stew | zleap: file a wishlist bug |
| 22:26.45 | zleap | ok |
| 22:26.46 | ingwe | bug¨ |
| 22:26.59 | xam | kspath: looks like it's him. |
| 22:27.06 | stew | ingwe: have you heard of alan turing and his famous test? |
| 22:27.14 | kspath | ingwe: You are an unwelcome automated annoyance. |
| 22:27.15 | zleap | i have |
| 22:27.25 | GenNMX | _ericb: Windows->Linux backups I use a Microsoft freeware program called Robocopy to copy the file(s) to a Samba share, then use whatever archiving tool(s) I want. |
| 22:27.26 | ingwe | you are insane |
| 22:27.27 | _rockstar | stew: We call them captchas now. |
| 22:27.35 | VolVE | hey all, maybe I'm missing something, but is there a console-based calculator anyone can recommend? |
| 22:27.41 | zleap | bc |
| 22:27.41 | ingwe | no |
| 22:27.50 | ingwe | there is no calculator |
| 22:27.51 | VolVE | hm, ok then |
| 22:27.59 | stew | ingwe: if you have a debian related question, please ask it. otherwise please move on |
| 22:28.12 | _rockstar | ingwe gives technology a bad name. |
| 22:28.15 | ingwe | irish stew |
| 22:28.25 | _rockstar | ingwe stew. |
| 22:28.28 | kspath | ingwe: Bad bye. |
| 22:28.32 | stew | !ops ingwe is a troll |
| 22:28.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: ingwe is a troll |
| 22:28.38 | CraZyLeGs | I couldn't install java-package |
| 22:28.46 | stew | CraZyLeGs: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 22:28.47 | vin` | I think it's a bot. |
| 22:28.50 | zleap | i got debian sid, just gone to a console window and bc is there |
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| 22:28.52 | ingwe | java sucks |
| 22:28.54 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*=JavaUser@*.dclient.hispeed.ch] by azeem |
| 22:28.57 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
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| 22:28.59 | xam | stew: I think that the test can only show whether somebody is a human IF the human is actually cooperating and not dumb as a fly. |
| 22:29.04 | CraZyLeGs | ingwe: oh yea |
| 22:29.07 | azeem | ingwe: you have been silenced for 10 minutes |
| 22:29.22 | VolVE | bc seems handy, thanks zleap |
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| 22:29.41 | zleap | i think the turing test is designed to see if people adn tell the difference between a human and a computer, it gives responses to questions etc |
| 22:29.42 | VolVE | obviously I've forgotten what I wanted to calculate... but anyway... |
| 22:29.55 | zleap | the idea is that you the user does not know which is which, |
| 22:29.59 | zleap | but you can try and guess |
| 22:30.07 | nvz | VolVE: the meaning of life |
| 22:30.07 | zleap | AI related I think |
| 22:30.10 | _rockstar | Anyone have experience with fglrx and X.org 7.0? I used to use unstable, and have gone back to testing just because it borked my X on the X.org 7 upgrade |
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| 22:30.22 | kspath | zleap: Have you met Eliza? |
| 22:30.22 | zleap | np regarding bc VolVE |
| 22:30.23 | nvz | VolVE: the universe, and everything |
| 22:30.28 | zleap | er no |
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| 22:30.48 | zleap | thats monty python isn't it |
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| 22:31.41 | Phated | Hitchhiker's, actually :) |
| 22:31.41 | zleap | ah |
| 22:31.41 | zleap | i was just thinking that |
| 22:31.44 | nvz | Eliza is an Artificially Intelligent Psycologist |
| 22:31.49 | zleap | ah |
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| 22:31.54 | xam | kspath: bah, eliza sucks. Ever heard of WOPR? Wanna play a game? |
| 22:31.54 | zleap | I have head of HAL |
| 22:32.01 | zleap | yep |
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| 22:32.10 | zleap | war operations planned response or something |
| 22:32.41 | zleap | acually I think it's "would you like to play a game" |
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| 22:33.32 | marco13185 | GenNMX, you are god |
| 22:33.38 | marco13185 | GenNMX, I'm in debian < |
| 22:33.42 | marco13185 | *<3 |
| 22:33.54 | zleap | I think the AI thing in Emacs must be a AI sex tharapist, given every problem is put down to the users sex life |
| 22:34.11 | GenNMX | marco13185: Hey, you're the one that figured out the actual problem. I just pointed you the right direction. |
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| 22:34.19 | StereoSkit | anyone knows what do i have to install to give kernel 2.4 support to pcmcia ethernet card? |
| 22:34.38 | zleap | insmod |
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| 22:34.42 | sgeigerbot | zleap: What are you talking about? The messages are personalized. Yours pertain to you. |
| 22:34.43 | marco13185 | GenNMX, hehe, I guess I should be a bit more careful using grubconf |
| 22:34.45 | sgeigerbot | ;-) |
| 22:34.49 | zleap | ah |
| 22:34.51 | xam | zleap: actually the question was 'Shall we play a game? |
| 22:35.00 | zleap | good point |
| 22:35.14 | zleap | ok, not used e-macs for ages |
| 22:35.22 | GenNMX | Eliza is a perfect emulation of a psychologist. You don't need much artificial intelligence to emulate no intelligence! |
| 22:35.22 | zleap | i will try again sometime |
| 22:35.30 | stoned | see you guys in a bit, I've got a lecture + lab tonight, 5 horus |
| 22:35.44 | GenNMX | marco13185: And always have a rescue disk handy. |
| 22:35.54 | sgeigerbot | GenNMX: You are just jealous because you aren't made out of transistors. |
| 22:35.59 | zleap | hmm we could replace politicians with computers easlily then |
| 22:36.04 | marco13185 | sgeigerbot, lol |
| 22:36.25 | VolVE | nvz: oh I've already got that down, thanks though :D |
| 22:36.25 | stew | zleap: not without breaking asimovs 3 laws |
| 22:36.30 | kspath | zleap: than logical in that case then time after that |
| 22:36.35 | StereoSkit | christ, i have a laptop with no cdrom driver and on booting stop recognizing the pcmcia eth card~ |
| 22:36.36 | GenNMX | Transistors are so HOT. |
| 22:36.53 | GenNMX | Especially when the system's overclocked. |
| 22:37.03 | streuner_ | stew: if you read S.F., read 'Lem'! |
| 22:37.05 | zleap | try lsmod, see if the pcmcia module is loading |
| 22:37.08 | zleap | (I am guessing) |
| 22:37.23 | stew | streuner_: i don't read fiction at all, really |
| 22:37.23 | sgeigerbot | GenNMX: Thanks. You aren't so bad yourself. |
| 22:37.36 | kspath | stew: You are reading my statements. |
| 22:37.38 | zleap | star trak rules |
| 22:37.43 | zleap | star trek rules |
| 22:37.48 | StereoSkit | pcmcia-core it says, but wont show eth0 /o\ |
| 22:37.49 | stew | kspath: that's not true |
| 22:37.56 | kspath | stew: hehehe |
| 22:38.12 | StereoSkit | dpkg: ,modprobe pcmcia |
| 22:38.12 | dpkg | Warning!: module pcmcia will taint kernel (and pants) |
| 22:38.22 | GenNMX | Crap. Anyone on East Coast USA having problems with debian's apt repositories? |
| 22:38.23 | StereoSkit | !!! |
| 22:38.23 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 22:38.47 | stew | GenNMX: which server? |
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| 22:38.51 | nvz | GenNMX: only with security |
| 22:39.03 | streuner_ | GenNMX: heh, do you really think the whole East Coast has problems to access i-net? :-) |
| 22:39.14 | stew | someone needs to reboot the interweb |
| 22:39.29 | zleap | http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/README-2.4 |
| 22:39.32 | GenNMX | Yeah, 128.101.240.212 was redirecting to a defunct server...fixed now |
| 22:39.55 | nvz | I'm heading down the East Coast soon.. I'll make sure to flip some switches on my way down :P |
| 22:40.09 | zleap | stereoskit - is link any use |
| 22:40.20 | zleap | info on pcmcia and 2.4 kernels |
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| 22:41.49 | GenNMX | streuner_: The way Debian servers normally work is that they when you go to debian.org, you're accessing a round-robin DNS forwarder which will send you to a mirror closer to your location with the least traffic. |
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| 22:41.57 | StereoSkit | zleap: im sorry i dont understand what you mean |
| 22:42.16 | GenNMX | Sometimes it'll direct you to a crashed server, or through a crashed node. |
| 22:42.18 | azeem | GenNMX: that is only true for ftp.us.debian.org |
| 22:42.19 | zleap | i posted a link on pcmcia cards http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/README-2.4 |
| 22:42.57 | GenNMX | azeem: For me, security.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org resolve to the same IP address initially. |
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| 22:43.19 | azeem | hrm right, security.d.o is round-robin since recently as well |
| 22:43.21 | marco13185 | why do people idle on IRC for weeks? |
| 22:43.23 | sgeigerbot | GenNMX: so? |
| 22:43.30 | azeem | marco13185: why not? |
| 22:43.39 | marco13185 | azeem, he, just wondering |
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| 22:43.40 | sgeigerbot | GenNMX: they could be different virtual hosts...or one coudl even be a redirect... |
| 22:43.41 | azeem | marco13185: this question is not particularly Debian specific |
| 22:43.42 | zleap | so we can chat about linux and get help and help othes |
| 22:43.43 | streuner_ | marco13185: why there brown and black cows? |
| 22:43.46 | nvz | security crapped out on me when I updated today |
| 22:43.47 | sgeigerbot | or both, actually... |
| 22:43.49 | marco13185 | azeem, rofl |
| 22:44.04 | GenNMX | sgeigerbot: True, but they both went down at once for me. |
| 22:44.30 | zleap | i got 2 go, tired and it's late here, (11:47) |
| 22:44.36 | nvz | only missed out on upgrades for bsdgames, gdm, and libsasl2 which I am fetching now |
| 22:44.49 | GenNMX | Given that these servers must run Debian, I can't believe two Debian servers crashed at once! :D |
| 22:44.58 | StormTide | anyone know what package provides mkraid |
| 22:44.58 | zleap | i need to do a big apt-get upgrade at some point |
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| 22:45.14 | zleap | try apt-cache search mkraid |
| 22:45.14 | r_marvin | hello |
| 22:45.23 | StormTide | zleap did nothing returns |
| 22:45.31 | sgeigerbot | GenNMX: I had two UPSes that weren't workign properly...and this caused two of my servers to go down today, due to a power problem in the buildign. |
| 22:45.32 | zleap | try apt-cache search maid |
| 22:45.35 | zleap | try apt-cache search raid |
| 22:45.51 | zleap | so try being less explicit with the search criteria |
| 22:46.03 | chaedaeX | zleap: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search mkraid |
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| 22:46.52 | GenNMX | sgeigerbot: That's a good question, personally I'm not sure if debian.org has a "homebase" or they're spread out amongst mirroring partners. |
| 22:46.55 | zleap | thanks |
| 22:47.03 | r_marvin | since a recent upgrade, i experience some ugliness in the "serif" fonts in firefox (particularly the kerning is weird). any idea where i should start looking? |
| 22:47.03 | zleap | thats useful |
| 22:47.17 | zleap | ok another thing to add to my list - learn apt |
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| 22:47.26 | zleap | i really got 2 go, chat later guys |
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| 22:47.44 | streuner_ | hm |
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| 22:49.10 | r_marvin | there's a broken link in the "font guide" factoid, who's in charge of dpkg? |
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| 22:50.25 | sgeigerbot | r_marvin: You can edit the factoid yourself. |
| 22:50.33 | sgeigerbot | r_marvin: tell me what's wrong. I'll show you how. |
| 22:50.42 | r_marvin | !font guide |
| 22:50.42 | dpkg | i heard font guide is bob2's Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused: http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
| 22:50.48 | streuner_ | if the factoid isn't locked |
| 22:50.51 | r_marvin | that domain is parked |
| 22:51.05 | StereoSkit | zleap: excelnte, tnx |
| 22:51.07 | stew | !forget font guide |
| 22:51.08 | sgeigerbot | r_marvin: I see. |
| 22:51.22 | r_marvin | and for now, i'm trying to fix my problem, i'm not in the position to edit anything yet :) |
| 22:51.27 | kspath | !tell r_marvin about factoid help |
| 22:51.28 | stew | can't be deleted, only changed |
| 22:51.33 | kspath | !tell r_marvin about help |
| 22:51.41 | TaF | lemme ask this: what will behave differently when i switch from mepis to just plain debian? i mean, i'll be using kde so basically things are going to look the same and act somewhat the same. but what is the advantage to debian over a distribution that is debian based? |
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| 22:52.14 | streuner_ | some of the things nobody knows |
| 22:52.15 | r_marvin | kspath: thanks, i was interested in dpkg's workings, but maybe later :) |
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| 22:52.36 | ma`Z | Jemand deutsches hier ? :o |
| 22:52.40 | r_marvin | for now i'm trying to figure out wtf happened to my fonts |
| 22:52.43 | streuner_ | !de |
| 22:52.47 | dvogel | I get a 404 on http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/wiki/ |
| 22:52.47 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 22:52.50 | ma`Z | i know! |
| 22:53.05 | azeem | ma`Z: so please write in english in here |
| 22:53.10 | streuner_ | ma`Z: ok, pay attention then |
| 22:53.40 | stew | azeem: can you s#faq/wiki#faq-wiki# in /topic? |
| 22:53.52 | nvz | dvogel: loose the www. |
| 22:53.52 | StormTide | has anyone setup raid 1 with dmraid before |
| 22:53.57 | azeem | TaF: hard to say for us, because most of us don't use MEPIS |
| 22:54.12 | TaF | ok, fair answer. |
| 22:54.16 | stew | dvogel: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki |
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| 22:54.20 | nvz | dvogel: in fact http://linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 22:54.44 | StormTide | ive got dmraid detecting my set, all the kernel crap working, but what i dont get is how to partition the raid and get it mounting |
| 22:54.45 | stew | azeem: cheers |
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| 22:57.29 | r_marvin | it looks like a gtk2 issue, any idea where is the font control for gtk? |
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| 22:58.16 | evilgeek | it is in .gtkrc-2.0. |
| 22:58.44 | guk | hmm ... speaking about RAID ... what would be the best way to copy my current RAID -> Single HDD |
| 22:58.56 | dvogel | apt-get/dselect seem to be confused on my etch system. I tried to apt-get update/dist-upgrade. wants to remove phpmyadmin, mysql-server-4.1, and mysql-client-5.1. I believe this is all cause by the removal of libmysqlclient15 in favor of libmysqlclient15off. What is the purpose of this libmysqlclient15off package? |
| 22:58.57 | stew | !gtk2 font |
| 22:58.57 | dpkg | somebody said gtk2 font was to change the default font, add something like "gtk-font-name = "Verdana 12"" to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0, or try gtk-theme-switch2 |
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| 22:59.11 | r_marvin | stew: thanks |
| 22:59.27 | guk | im getting a 15k SCSI HDD ... and I won't be needing this Software RAID-0 anymore ... how would I copy it all (including permissions) to one SCSI drive ? |
| 22:59.33 | sharpy | is there a debian tool to disable certain services? |
| 22:59.33 | dvogel | nm, I'm dumb, should have check dpkg |
| 22:59.52 | stew | dvogel: its purpose is to be the replacement for libmysqlclient15. they are binary incompatible. |
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| 23:00.34 | sharpy | cant remember if it was something along the lines of rconf or sysvconfig ? |
| 23:00.39 | stew | !debwiki dvogel OngoingTransitions |
| 23:00.39 | dpkg | dvogel: http://wiki.debian.org/OngoingTransitions |
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| 23:01.04 | stew | sharpy: update-rc.d or rcconf or sysvconfig or .... |
| 23:01.21 | pipeline | guk: Your best bet is to use gnu tar with the -l switch. |
| 23:01.23 | sharpy | Stew: i was close. thanks :-) |
| 23:01.37 | pipeline | guk: well, -l and -p, I suppose |
| 23:01.39 | dvogel | Ok, thanks. Now on to my apache problems. Is there any way to tell apt/dpkg "I never want anything to do with apache2 because I only use apache1.3"? |
| 23:02.25 | stew | dvogel: apt-get install apache |
| 23:02.39 | sgeigerbot | dvogel: I doubt it. |
| 23:02.39 | stew | dvogel: although apache2-utils and apache2-common are shared between apache and apache2 |
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| 23:03.30 | sgeigerbot | dvogel: You are asking whether you can tell the package management system to never configure any package (like, say php) for apache2? |
| 23:03.30 | stew | dvogel: if you install php without explicitly telling it to install libapache-mod-php4 then it might install libapache2-mod-php4 however |
| 23:03.37 | heanol | what is the default backup user used for in debian? |
| 23:03.44 | r_marvin | hmm, i changed the default font in ffox from "serif" to "bitstream vera serif" , now it's ok, apparently it switched to dejavu or something after the last upgrade |
| 23:03.51 | dvogel | stew: apache is installed. With the confluence of dependencies between mysql, php, apache, and phpmyadmin, I end up getting dependancy resolution screens in dselect that automatically select apache2 packages and want to uninstall apache1 packages |
| 23:03.59 | stew | heanol: backup |
| 23:04.03 | heanol | stew, :P |
| 23:04.12 | heanol | stew, i mean.. in a base installation.. is it ever used? |
| 23:04.18 | r_marvin | dvogel: apache2-common is pretty harmless |
| 23:04.23 | stew | heanol: no |
| 23:04.24 | heanol | or can i use it for my own backup purpouses? |
| 23:04.29 | heanol | or should i add another user? |
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| 23:04.39 | stew | dvogel: yes, so when you try to install php, you must then also select libapache-mod-php{4,5} |
| 23:04.51 | stew | heanol: you may use whatever you like |
| 23:04.54 | Langly1 | grr, I can't recall the command line for reconfiguring Xorg in sarge. And google isn't helping |
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| 23:05.01 | stew | !drxx Langly1 |
| 23:05.01 | dpkg | Langly1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:05.02 | sgeigerbot | dvogel: You have to be very careful about which packages you install, I guess. I guess you would have to look at the dependencies before you install packages. I guess you could look at the (reverse?) dependencies of packages before you install. If they are related to apache2, then don't install that package. |
| 23:05.08 | Langly1 | ive got an odd laptop with a 1280x600 screen |
| 23:05.10 | dvogel | r_marvin: I know. I'm not concerned with that. I'm concerned with it trying to remove libapache-mod-php4 in favor of libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 23:05.15 | sgeigerbot | dvogel: You could write a script to help you avaoid that problem, I guess. |
| 23:05.17 | Langly1 | ah, xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:05.20 | Langly1 | i was using X11 |
| 23:05.23 | Langly1 | or xorg |
| 23:05.25 | sgeigerbot | dvogel: it is kind of annoying, I agree. |
| 23:05.29 | Langly1 | thanks |
| 23:05.55 | dvogel | sgeigerbot: I do look at the dependancies. I am getting burned by packages already installed when I try to update. |
| 23:05.56 | stew | dvogel: some people find aptitude better for this type of dependency resolution |
| 23:06.18 | dvogel | stew: I will try it. |
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| 23:09.26 | dvogel | Ok, I am running apt-get -f install to fix my broken state (my fault). It wants to install php5-mysql even though php5 is not installed. Why is this? |
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| 23:09.37 | sgeigerbot | dpkg font guide is (temporarily) bob2's Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused: http://www.ncee.net/shane/font_guide.txt (previously at http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt) |
| 23:09.37 | dpkg | ...but font guide is already something else... |
| 23:09.42 | Langly1 | is there a way I can hand add a resulotion to the config thru this, I need 1280x600 which is odd and not on the list, couldnt find the damn xorg.conf as it. And the keyboards | key isnt working for complex reasons I wont go into right now |
| 23:09.44 | sgeigerbot | !font guide |
| 23:09.44 | dpkg | well, font guide is bob2's Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused: http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
| 23:09.55 | sgeigerbot | dpkg no font guide is (temporarily) bob2's Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused: http://www.ncee.net/shane/font_guide.txt (previously at http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt) |
| 23:09.55 | dpkg | okay, sgeigerbot |
| 23:09.55 | Langly1 | I cant find / | grep blah |
| 23:09.59 | OpenSSH | how can extrect file from MySQL archive in format tar.gz ...help me pls |
| 23:10.07 | dvogel | I believe it is confused because phpmyadmin requires php4-mysql or php5-mysql, but php4-mysql is already installed. |
| 23:10.33 | dvogel | Last night it dselect wanted to "fix" this by removing php4-mysql and installing php5-mysql |
| 23:10.42 | Langly1 | http://langlyweb.no-ip.com/minilaptop.jpg what I am working on |
| 23:11.11 | Langly1 | What "varient" is that keyboard |
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| 23:12.00 | OpenSSH | how can extrect file from MySQL archive in format tar.gz ...help me pls |
| 23:12.25 | stew | OpenSSH: what is a mysql archive? |
| 23:12.32 | stew | OpenSSH: can you be more specific? |
| 23:12.39 | OpenSSH | mysql kitt |
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| 23:12.56 | Langly1 | !xmd5 |
| 23:12.56 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 23:13.00 | stew | OpenSSH: what is "mysql kitt"? |
| 23:13.16 | sgeigerbot | OpenSSH: Hey, get out of here. No binaries allowed! |
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| 23:13.51 | OpenSSH | i downloaded mysql to install : mysql-max-5.0.20a-linux-i686.tar.gz |
| 23:14.06 | stew | OpenSSH: why are you not just using apt-get? |
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| 23:14.29 | htrp | is it safe to use 'yasuc'? |
| 23:14.33 | htrp | !yasuc |
| 23:15.01 | flowtron | Hi @ all. My SSH onto a sarge box (from sarge box) sometimes corrupts keystrokes - what gives? |
| 23:15.09 | OpenSSH | aaaa ... i will try now ... |
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| 23:15.19 | stew | OpenSSH: what version of debian are you using? |
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| 23:15.30 | dvogel | So the solution seems to be adding "version *" for libapache-mod-php4 to /etc/apt/preferences instead of "version 4.*" |
| 23:15.30 | OpenSSH | the last ...stable |
| 23:15.49 | Langly1 | Finaly a working network card, I can dist-upgrade to somethign I know a little better |
| 23:15.54 | stew | OpenSSH: do you need mysql5? or is 4.1 good enough? |
| 23:15.55 | vol | if i want pure 64bit environment, what do i choose in a repository? debian, debian-amd64, pure64? |
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| 23:16.29 | stew | vol: what cpu do you have? which release of debian do you plan to use? |
| 23:16.38 | OpenSSH | i want to instal php myadmin ..after Sugar CRM |
| 23:16.42 | vol | im on unstable, amd64 x2 |
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| 23:17.06 | marco13185 | hmm, is there an alternative to gtkpod |
| 23:17.07 | OpenSSH | i'm new on linux |
| 23:17.13 | marco13185 | because gtk-pod is really crappy |
| 23:17.37 | stew | OpenSSH: "apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 phpmyadmin" i don't know about sugar crm |
| 23:17.41 | blondie | OpenSSH: I found a bug in your code... please fix it |
| 23:17.46 | OpenSSH | ok |
| 23:17.47 | OpenSSH | thx |
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| 23:18.12 | stew | vol: you already have unstable running? and its running the amd64 version of debian? or what? |
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| 23:18.28 | blondie | OpenSSH: shouldn't you be in #openssh? |
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| 23:18.57 | sharpy | is testing = etch, sid or sarge ? |
| 23:18.59 | htrp | is cron = crontab? |
| 23:18.59 | vol | stew: yea, and ive been using debian-amd64 |
| 23:19.03 | OpenSSH | i don't thinks so |
| 23:19.10 | marco13185 | there must be an alternative to gtkpod |
| 23:19.14 | StereoSkit | question, is there a boot.img image (for floppy booting) that include a image of kernel 2.6? |
| 23:19.25 | vol | stew: im just not sure why there are multiple choices in that area |
| 23:19.47 | blondie | OpenSSH: why did you pick that nick? o.o |
| 23:19.57 | stew | vol: it sounds like you are doing the right thing. #debian-amd64 might know more |
| 23:20.07 | vol | stew: thanks |
| 23:21.26 | flowtron | why does my ssh (after some time connected) wreak havoc with my input - meaning I can use some keys but others generate garbage ... |
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| 23:21.50 | erudified | I deleted /etc/apache2, how can I reinstall the default configuration files? |
| 23:22.38 | stew | erudified: the config is part of the apache2-common package: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 23:22.45 | marco13185 | is there a reason why amaroK isn't in the unstable repository: |
| 23:22.46 | marco13185 | ? |
| 23:23.03 | stew | !info amarok unstable |
| 23:23.05 | dpkg | amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 1.3.8-1+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 8235 kB, Installed size: 15864 kB |
| 23:23.15 | StereoSkit | anyones knows is theres a floppy image boot.img/root.omg wich comes with kernel 2.6? |
| 23:23.33 | sharpy | what version is KDE in testing? 3.4 or 3.5? |
| 23:23.53 | erudified | stew, thank you! |
| 23:24.05 | evaded | sharpy: 3.4 |
| 23:24.15 | StereoSkit | dpkg: ,boot.img |
| 23:24.18 | stew | !info kdelibs testing |
| 23:24.19 | StormTide | how big should a boot partition be |
| 23:24.22 | dpkg | kdelibs: (core libraries from the official KDE release), section libs, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.2-2 (etch), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 52 kB |
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| 23:24.51 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 23:25.12 | ribnitz | how do I make the jump form an usb bus id to a device entry? |
| 23:25.18 | sharpy | evaded, thanks. I think i'll get it. Hopefully it's not too bloated. |
| 23:25.33 | stew | ribnitz: do you run udev/hal? |
| 23:25.52 | ribnitz | stew: I run udev, not hal. |
| 23:25.55 | evaded | stew: So i guess that it's 3.5 and not 3.4?? On my testing it's been 3.4 :-/ |
| 23:26.24 | ribnitz | stew: should I install hal? |
| 23:26.40 | stew | ribnitz: if you run udev, you run hal :), "hal-devices | less" or "lshal | less" and search for the bus id (i think) |
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| 23:27.04 | OpenSSH | why when i typed the usrname: root and the pass for root in the php MyAdmin form login, i recive the next msg : #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 23:27.04 | stew | evaded: yes, that's 3.5. sounds like your testing is out of date |
| 23:27.07 | Thanatermesis | any person has the problem with AUDIO playing the videos of YOUTUBE ? |
| 23:27.13 | dvogel | Is there any way to use php4-mysql AND libmysqlclient15off? |
| 23:27.18 | ribnitz | stew: no hal. |
| 23:27.27 | stew | !depends udev |
| 23:27.33 | dpkg | udev: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libselinux1 (>= 1.30), libvolume-id0, initscripts (>= 2.85-16), makedev (>= 2.3.1-77), sed (>= 3.95), lsb-base (>= 3.0-6) |
| 23:27.44 | stew | OpenSSH: read /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-4.1/README.Debian about setting up a password |
| 23:27.50 | stew | hrm |
| 23:28.03 | OpenSSH | thanks |
| 23:28.06 | stew | i could have sworn that udev depended on hal, but its actually the other way around |
| 23:28.43 | stew | ribnitz: there is probably a way to find out using udevinfo |
| 23:28.45 | ribnitz | stew: so |
| 23:30.36 | marco13185 | ughh: amarok: Depends: libtunepimp2c2a (>= 0.3.0) but it is not installable |
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| 23:31.17 | ribnitz | stew: Oh, its at usb 5-6 |
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| 23:32.13 | marco13185 | E: Package libtunepimp2c2a has no installation candidate |
| 23:32.47 | htrp | where can i find the permissions with chmod? like 777, 755, 600, etc |
| 23:32.54 | kspath | it is a shame that stable and testing and unstable do not have separate channels. |
| 23:33.20 | kspath | htrp: man chmod ? man ls ? |
| 23:33.44 | dvogel | Is there a way to get an old pacakge list so that I get install old package versions via dselecT? |
| 23:33.47 | r_marvin | anyone from x strike force here? |
| 23:33.57 | htrp | like, how do you know what permission is 755 and what is 600 |
| 23:34.04 | htrp | you know what im talkin about? |
| 23:34.21 | kspath | htrp: the manual page for chmod explains some things about permissions. |
| 23:34.32 | turiddu | do ls -la on whatever directory |
| 23:34.40 | kspath | htrp: actually this one does not. |
| 23:34.45 | turiddu | the permissions come up for example: rx-rx-rx or something |
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| 23:34.49 | turiddu | the man files explain it all |
| 23:34.54 | htrp | i know that |
| 23:34.59 | htrp | but im talkin about the numbers and stuff |
| 23:35.06 | turiddu | what numbers |
| 23:35.12 | turiddu | 65? |
| 23:35.13 | turiddu | 655* |
| 23:35.19 | kspath | !permissions |
| 23:35.19 | dpkg | i guess permissions is multiple acts of permitting, or http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions |
| 23:35.19 | htrp | yeah all that |
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| 23:35.25 | dvogel | how can I rebuild php4-mysql against libmysqlclient15off? |
| 23:35.34 | turiddu | 755 would be like rwxrwxrwx |
| 23:35.36 | stew | !wikifaq htrp Permissions |
| 23:35.36 | dpkg | htrp: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 23:35.44 | r_marvin | i have /usr/X11R6/bin/Xnest from the xnest package which doesn't seem to conflict with x11-common (=1:7.0.14) |
| 23:35.45 | kspath | htrp: 4 is read 2 is write 1 is execute |
| 23:35.46 | turiddu | its in the man files |
| 23:35.48 | marco13185 | is it possible to borrow a library like libtunepimp2c2a from testing when running unstable? |
| 23:35.49 | stew | yikes laggylaggy |
| 23:35.50 | turiddu | it explains the numbers and letters |
| 23:36.07 | r_marvin | marco13185: yes, use pinning |
| 23:36.10 | htrp | kspath: but how come they're 3-digit? |
| 23:36.21 | htrp | oh nvm |
| 23:36.22 | kspath | turiddu: 755 is rwxr-xr-x |
| 23:36.24 | htrp | im reading the site |
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| 23:36.52 | mobile | !ask |
| 23:36.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 23:37.03 | htrp | how many ---- are they? |
| 23:37.18 | kspath | htrp: How many what? |
| 23:37.48 | htrp | oh nvm again |
| 23:37.49 | kspath | htrp: users group everyone/world |
| 23:37.50 | mobile | I have a problem with my notebook cardbus + nic. im running debian stable. when i try do transfer large files i get a pci bus error. |
| 23:37.53 | evaded | !tell mobile about selftell |
| 23:37.55 | htrp | yeah |
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| 23:38.06 | mobile | !tell |
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| 23:38.17 | kspath | htrp: You might want to pick up a basic unix/linux/bsd book. |
| 23:38.23 | evaded | mobile: Look to what dpkg have told you |
| 23:38.27 | htrp | it should be 9 for all right? |
| 23:38.46 | stew | htrp: 9? 9 what? |
| 23:38.49 | mobile | yes but what means it ? |
| 23:38.52 | flowtron | can anybody help with my ssh issue? it's really annoying me to have to reconnect every so often |
| 23:38.54 | htrp | lol |
| 23:39.00 | htrp | -rw-r--r-- |
| 23:39.11 | htrp | what's the perm # for this? |
| 23:39.16 | zasz | chmod 777 / -R |
| 23:39.18 | kspath | htrp: use your fingers and toes to count them. |
| 23:39.25 | mentor | Is anyone experiencing low/poor performance from GNOME-VFS using SMB shares/workgroups? |
| 23:39.26 | stew | zasz: STOP |
| 23:39.28 | sepen | xDD |
| 23:39.34 | sepen | EOF |
| 23:39.36 | mobile | okayi understand tell |
| 23:39.36 | r_marvin | htrp: 644 |
| 23:39.37 | sepen | please |
| 23:39.37 | stew | htrp: dop't listen to zasz |
| 23:39.41 | zasz | bad joke |
| 23:39.43 | zasz | sorry |
| 23:39.45 | mobile | I have a problem with my notebook cardbus + nic. im running debian stable. when i try do transfer large files i get a pci bus error. |
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| 23:39.50 | stew | zasz: it is a klineable offense around here |
| 23:40.02 | htrp | ic |
| 23:40.08 | zasz | i can see why, people are liable to do it- my apologies |
| 23:40.15 | marco13185 | dpkg is this good? I have a problem with installing amarok. I'm running Debian sid. When I try to apt-get install amarok i get the following output: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 23:40.15 | marco13185 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.15 | zasz | i just did it without thinking |
| 23:40.16 | mobile | the error on the screen is: pci bus error fifo diagnostic registe too much work in interrupt status |
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| 23:40.29 | kspath | zasz: they will copy/paste without thinking as well. |
| 23:40.36 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- can someone tell me how a cron job that runs every 10 seconds would look? |
| 23:40.36 | htrp | i aint that dumb though, lolwtfux |
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| 23:40.48 | r_marvin | SexyKen: impossible with cron |
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| 23:40.51 | kspath | SexyKen: man cron |
| 23:40.52 | cheal | marco13185: dpkg is only a bot |
| 23:40.52 | zasz | comeon someone must have found that funny though |
| 23:40.56 | htrp | so no biggie |
| 23:40.58 | r_marvin | it has a one-minute resolution |
| 23:41.05 | stew | marco13185: 2c2a was removed in favor of lintemepimp3 |
| 23:41.07 | SexyKen | r_marvin - is a minute the best I could do? |
| 23:41.13 | r_marvin | with cron, yes |
| 23:41.23 | SexyKen | There is a dif. alternative? |
| 23:41.24 | kspath | SexyKen: Consider a perl or pyton or whatever daemon process instead. |
| 23:41.27 | r_marvin | i'd recommend a daemonized script |
| 23:41.40 | SexyKen | The script is PHP that needs to run every 10 seconds. |
| 23:41.41 | flowtron | man sleep |
| 23:41.42 | htrp | that site says -rw-r--r-- is 856 |
| 23:41.44 | marco13185 | stew, that package doesn't exist |
| 23:42.00 | stew | !info libtunepimp3 unstable |
| 23:42.05 | dpkg | libtunepimp3: (MusicBrainz tagging library and simple tagger application), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-3 (sid), Packaged size: 310 kB, Installed size: 844 kB |
| 23:42.06 | stew | marco13185: ^^^ it does |
| 23:42.15 | htrp | oh nvm, that's the file size |
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| 23:42.28 | marco13185 | E: Couldn't find package lintemepimp3 |
| 23:42.39 | SexyKen | This is every 15 mins: */15 * * * * root php /var/www/checkQueues.php |
| 23:42.39 | r_marvin | SexyKen: i'd bet a month's salary that it doesn't actually need to run every 10 secs, but it's beyond the point :) |
| 23:42.40 | marco13185 | oh, you spelled it wrong |
| 23:42.41 | znx | htrp: chmod u+rw-x,go+r-wx file :P |
| 23:42.47 | znx | aka 644 :) |
| 23:42.53 | SexyKen | Would * * * * * root php /var/www/checkQueues.php be every minute? |
| 23:42.53 | stew | marco13185: no, you spelled it wrong |
| 23:43.11 | stew | SexyKen: yes |
| 23:43.13 | marco13185 | stew, how can I make amaroK use that instead? |
| 23:43.14 | mobile | plz help me. |
| 23:43.22 | SexyKen | I'll do it every minute for now...but I want live queue stats for my techs. |
| 23:43.28 | kspath | SexyKen: Did you read the man page for cron and crontab? |
| 23:43.39 | flowtron | any help with SSH botching keystrokes after variable time connected w/o probs |
| 23:43.43 | SexyKen | kspath: I can't do it every 10 seconds, so why the f would I? |
| 23:44.01 | marco13185 | wtf is ftp.us.debian.org |
| 23:44.04 | marco13185 | down? |
| 23:44.07 | r_marvin | SexyKen: "live" translates to "daemon" and it's synonym "not with cron" |
| 23:44.08 | stew | marco13185: you have to see if there is any code changes that need to happen for the transition from 2c2a to 3, then edit the control file and rebuild the package against the newer libs |
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| 23:44.34 | SexyKen | r_marvin: PHP scripts can be run as a daemon? |
| 23:44.49 | stew | marco13185: ftp.us.debian.org is 4 different servers, it only makes sense if you tell us which you are having trouble with |
| 23:44.50 | r_marvin | i guess so |
| 23:44.58 | stew | SexyKen: yes |
| 23:44.59 | flowtron | SexyKen : you could call it via lynx |
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| 23:45.10 | SexyKen | eh? |
| 23:45.10 | r_marvin | just use a sleep() function or whatever it's called |
| 23:45.13 | marco13185 | stew, 128.101.240.212 |
| 23:45.20 | SexyKen | Would it not time out the browser? |
| 23:45.22 | marco13185 | it's not downloading |
| 23:45.29 | stew | marco13185: works for me |
| 23:45.34 | r_marvin | SexyKen: use php-cli |
| 23:45.38 | marco13185 | apt-get update hangs at 0% |
| 23:45.41 | r_marvin | not the cgi version |
| 23:45.56 | r_marvin | but this is waaaay offtopic |
| 23:46.18 | r_marvin | marco13185: add an alternative mirror |
| 23:46.31 | flowtron | ah. interesting @ r_marvin ... hadn't seen that before (php-cli) |
| 23:46.39 | stew | marco13185: using ftp or http? |
| 23:46.40 | htrp | -rw-r--r-- = 411 ? |
| 23:46.45 | htrp | or 611? |
| 23:46.50 | r_marvin | 644 |
| 23:46.51 | r_marvin | :) |
| 23:46.51 | flowtron | 644 |
| 23:46.55 | htrp | oh |
| 23:46.58 | htrp | yeah w=4 |
| 23:46.59 | stew | htrp: r == 4, w = 2 |
| 23:47.00 | htrp | my fault |
| 23:47.05 | r_marvin | htrp: it's easy |
| 23:47.13 | r_marvin | break into "rwx" groups |
| 23:47.16 | flowtron | +x +r +w |
| 23:47.28 | htrp | i get the rwx part, but #s confusing me |
| 23:47.37 | r_marvin | x is one, w is double (2), r is double (4) |
| 23:47.43 | marco13185 | stew, ftp |
| 23:47.43 | htrp | ok, someone test me real quick |
| 23:47.49 | marco13185 | stew, wait |
| 23:47.59 | htrp | give me a permission for a file |
| 23:48.01 | stew | marco13185: you might have a firewall problem with active ftp then, try http |
| 23:48.03 | r_marvin | htrp: if you don't understand it clearly, stick to rwx stuff |
| 23:48.07 | marco13185 | stew, http |
| 23:48.14 | r_marvin | like chmod +x file |
| 23:48.18 | htrp | r_marvin: i never gave up |
| 23:48.19 | htrp | lol |
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| 23:48.52 | htrp | just give an example of rwx permission |
| 23:48.53 | r_marvin | it's way safer than screwing permissions because you didn't remember the right algorithm |
| 23:48.56 | stew | marco13185: what happens if you go to http://saens.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Release in your browser? |
| 23:49.01 | htrp | and ill find out the # |
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| 23:49.15 | htrp | i will remember |
| 23:49.28 | r_marvin | easy way to test it yourself: |
| 23:49.43 | r_marvin | make a file and chmod it to 755 or whatever |
| 23:49.52 | r_marvin | then test yourself with ls -l file |
| 23:49.54 | htrp | -rwxr-xr-x = 755? |
| 23:50.08 | htrp | no, i want you to give me an example of rwx |
| 23:50.09 | r_marvin | now go and play :) |
| 23:50.18 | stew | htrp: 7 |
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| 23:50.23 | htrp | rwx? |
| 23:50.24 | r_marvin | lol |
| 23:50.27 | htrp | lol |
| 23:50.31 | dvs | olo |
| 23:50.43 | stew | htrp: r=4 w=2 x=1 ; r+w+x = 1+2+4 = 7 |
| 23:50.48 | htrp | yes |
| 23:50.51 | htrp | im gettin it man |
| 23:50.56 | r_marvin | rwsr-xr-x :) |
| 23:50.59 | concept10 | anyone know right off hand what port mailman runs on? |
| 23:51.00 | htrp | s? |
| 23:51.09 | flowtron | concept10 : 80 |
| 23:51.18 | htrp | 755 |
| 23:51.21 | htrp | :) |
| 23:51.23 | concept10 | rofl |
| 23:51.24 | r_marvin | htrp: man chmod and pay attention |
| 23:51.30 | htrp | i did |
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| 23:51.44 | r_marvin | concept10: mailman is a cgi |
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| 23:52.13 | r_marvin | (the management interface, at least) |
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| 23:52.45 | concept10 | flowtron, r_marvin, maybe they have it set up wrong or gave the incorrect url |
| 23:52.45 | r_marvin | it communicates with the mta via pipes, not tcp/ip |
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| 23:52.58 | concept10 | I was trying to access this site: http://project.simpleticket.net:81/mailman/listinfo/simpleticket |
| 23:53.20 | Serinity | Hi everyone, I'm looking for a KDE applet to show the battery usage.... |
| 23:53.26 | Serinity | Any idea ? |
| 23:53.46 | concept10 | Serinity, they should already have that |
| 23:53.54 | r_marvin | ah, this reminds me |
| 23:54.05 | concept10 | in the default installation |
| 23:54.18 | stew | Serinity: apt-cache search kde battery |
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| 23:54.20 | r_marvin | since i switched to debian kernel, i don't have /proc/acpi/battery/* |
| 23:54.33 | stew | r_marvin: modprobe battery |
| 23:54.36 | r_marvin | i did |
| 23:54.42 | Serinity | stew, already done, nothing tells about an applet |
| 23:54.42 | r_marvin | no cookie |
| 23:54.59 | dak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:55.03 | Serinity | There's something that tells about a frontend but.... |
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| 23:55.25 | roler | how do I change the 'Wastebasket' name to something else? I can rename the icon on the desktop but am unable to rename it on all the dialogues |
| 23:55.47 | flowtron | any help on ssh botching keystrokes? |
| 23:55.58 | Serinity | concept10, no, it's not there |
| 23:56.00 | concept10 | wastebasket? what window manager are you using? KDE? |
| 23:56.01 | flowtron | (sorry for repetition - but it's really annoying) |
| 23:56.17 | Serinity | concept10, i guess it depends what you mean by "default installation" |
| 23:56.33 | dvogel | Is there a way to compile php4-mysql from source without compiling ALL of php4? |
| 23:56.38 | r_marvin | what's the proper way to file a dependency bug against x11-common? (sorry, haven't reported bugs till now) |
| 23:56.43 | roler | concept10; nope, Gnome! |
| 23:57.03 | Serinity | yeah, gnome has it |
| 23:57.03 | dvogel | r_marvin: bugs.debian.org? |
| 23:57.06 | stew | dvogel: no, but why do you want to? |
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| 23:57.12 | Serinity | i can't beleive KDE doesn't have this |
| 23:57.24 | stew | r_marvin: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 23:57.25 | dak | ? |
| 23:57.30 | stew | r_marvin: what is the bug? |
| 23:57.33 | Serinity | maybe it hasn't been debianised |
| 23:57.35 | dak | whats wrong with kde |
| 23:57.36 | dvogel | stew: I'm trying to recompile php4-mysql against my installed libmysqlclient15off (since php4-mysql still depends on libmysqlclient15) |
| 23:57.49 | kspath | dak: Vague? |
| 23:57.56 | xinming | which version of cron supplied in debian? I mean, vixie-cron or other one? |
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| 23:58.15 | sgeigerbot | kspath: He's got to be referring to the entire philosophy of bloat. |
| 23:58.18 | dvogel | xinming, vixie is the default but any are offered. |
| 23:58.22 | kspath | sgeigerbot: hehehe |
| 23:58.26 | dak | was asking Serinity |
| 23:58.32 | xinming | dvogel: thanks. |
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| 23:58.37 | r_marvin | dvogel: i have something in /usr/X11R6/bin/ that doesn't conflict with x11-common, this would cause problems on upgrade |
| 23:58.41 | Serinity | dak, read up |
| 23:58.49 | dak | cant |
| 23:58.55 | r_marvin | sorry, wrong person |
| 23:58.58 | dak | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.02 | r_marvin | stew: ^^ |
| 23:59.06 | dak | filled the buffer |
| 23:59.06 | dvogel | stew: are there any package repositories with experimental packages for testing builds against libmysqlclient15off (for etch)? |
| 23:59.11 | kspath | dak: You would type something like Serinity: What is wrong with your KDE? notice the prefix of the nickname of the person you want to address. |
| 23:59.11 | stew | r_marvin: from which package? |
| 23:59.14 | Serinity | <Serinity> Hi everyone, I'm looking for a KDE applet to show the battery usage.... |
| 23:59.15 | r_marvin | xnest |
| 23:59.22 | concept10 | Serinity, klaptopdaemon maybe? |
| 23:59.32 | stew | dvogel: dunno |
| 23:59.32 | sgeigerbot | Serinity: apt-cache search battery | grep -i kde |
| 23:59.33 | dak | kspath: you get paid to be a grammer teacher on irc? |
| 23:59.42 | kspath | dak: /lastlog Serinity |
| 23:59.45 | flowtron | come on. a hint will do, ... googling for "+ssh +keyboard +error" gives none. |
| 23:59.48 | concept10 | Serinity, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=klaptopdaemon&searchon=name&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
| 23:59.49 | Serinity | sgeigerbot, i know how to use apt but thanks :_ |
| 23:59.52 | sgeigerbot | dak: grammar? |
| 23:59.59 | kspath | dak: What does grammar have to do with knowing how to use IRC? |
