| 00:00.10 | eeyore- | null: do you have an intel 810/815 chipset? |
| 00:00.22 | eeyore- | null: keep in mind the random number generator has been discontinued by Intel |
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| 00:00.33 | null | eeyore: I am using Intel motherboard |
| 00:00.49 | eeyore- | null: and the kernel help file is inaccurate when they say that it's supposed to work on all 8xx chipsets |
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| 00:01.11 | ljlane | eeyore-, did the rng suck or something? |
| 00:01.14 | eeyore- | null: that's insufficient. do you have an 82802 firmware hub on your motherboard? |
| 00:01.15 | jeanmi | eeyore- is there any program that might recognize it automatically ? |
| 00:01.24 | null | eeyore: yes |
| 00:01.52 | eeyore- | jeanmi: the RNG hardware is embedded into an 82802 firmware hub, which has (in some incarnations) been absorbed into a northbridge, but it's not always easy to tell |
| 00:02.19 | jeanmi | eeyore- hmmm |
| 00:02.30 | jeanmi | eeyore- I did not understand everything but |
| 00:02.52 | jeanmi | eeyore- I check with usbview, I can't really find any finromation that I think I should grep in Configure.help |
| 00:03.05 | eeyore- | jeanmi: the easiest is ... if you have an i810 / i815, you certainly have RNG. if you have a later chip, you might not have it. if you have a smallish chip (82802), small rectangular packaging, about 10-pin count, you have the RNG |
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| 00:03.08 | paulswm | jeanmi: eeyore- has got you mixed up with null, the reply's for null |
| 00:03.10 | jeanmi | eeyore- and if I cat the device in /proc/usb I get a weird output |
| 00:03.18 | eeyore- | oh, wrong people :) |
| 00:03.35 | paulswm | eeyore-: :D |
| 00:03.45 | jeanmi | oh :) |
| 00:03.48 | eeyore- | ljlane: who knows. there's speculation that it might suck and intel wanted to avoid the fiasco. remember VIA went through the same thing with the nehemiah core |
| 00:04.03 | keta | tony: this cancer is attacking linux too, anyway I don't feel as an utopist, autocertification on a skill basis can be an answerm no matter if I can play only with one cpu of a e15k virtual machine |
| 00:04.09 | null | so what should I do? where can I load it, at the moment I skip both of it in discover.conf |
| 00:04.16 | eeyore- | ljlane: the nehemiah was supposed to include the RNG in the core, but some people discovered that it's been disabled in their CPU's, early-generation nehemiah's |
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| 00:04.27 | keta | tony: I'll still use debian. |
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| 00:04.45 | toad_ | hi ppl. for the last many months, i've been using samba on sid, and it repeatedly gets into some sort of buggy state where it gets errors like tdb_reopen_all failed., and it doesn't work at all until i reinstall it. is this a known problem? |
| 00:04.50 | ljlane | eeyore-, I see. |
| 00:05.06 | jeanmi | eeyore- http://www.jane8606.com/images/cp_sxt_camcan_d.jpg |
| 00:05.10 | jeanmi | eeyore- this is what the cam looks like |
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| 00:05.46 | eeyore- | jeanmi: try to load the ov511 module first :) it's in many webcams |
| 00:06.19 | jeanmi | ok loaded |
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| 00:06.37 | eeyore- | jeanmi: dmesg, see last few lines. is there complaint from ov511 module? |
| 00:06.43 | jeanmi | yes |
| 00:06.55 | jeanmi | sdb : READ CAPACITY failed. |
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| 00:07.05 | jeanmi | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.06 | jeanmi | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.06 | jeanmi | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.08 | eeyore- | jeanmi: if there's complaint, it didn't load ... "lsmod | grep ov511", is there output? |
| 00:07.16 | alteclansing | did anyone have any success of running their 536EP chipset modem (winmodem) under the 2.6 kernel? I only see drivers for 2.4.*, want to know if possible to run under 2.6? |
| 00:07.23 | jeanmi | it loaded |
| 00:07.34 | jeanmi | it is loaded |
| 00:07.40 | eeyore- | jeanmi: okay then, it's supported (sdb messages are for scsi, not webcam driver) |
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| 00:07.50 | jeanmi | eeyore- alright |
| 00:07.57 | eeyore- | jeanmi: good luck |
| 00:07.58 | jeanmi | eeyore- for usb-storage I guess |
| 00:08.08 | jeanmi | eeyore- so what now ? |
| 00:08.23 | eeyore- | jeanmi: video4linux, maybe? |
| 00:08.26 | jeanmi | eeyore- can I use any program that deal with webcam and the program will find it straight after ? |
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| 00:08.38 | jeanmi | modprobe v4l ? |
| 00:08.54 | nom | Does anyone here have experience with setting up samba 3 on a active directory domain? |
| 00:09.01 | eeyore- | jeanmi: i'd check its homepage for FAQ's, and HOWTO's. my cam is not here at the moment, sorry |
| 00:09.02 | nom | If so, i could use some help =] |
| 00:09.14 | toad_ | Nom: is that sid? |
| 00:09.15 | jeanmi | ok |
| 00:09.29 | Nom | huh? |
| 00:09.34 | toad_ | samba corrupts connections.tdb or something and gets really messed up for me on sid |
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| 00:10.07 | strefli3 | trying to remember the command that will tell me where a program is located, such as ***** xmms /usr/bin/xmms anyone know? |
| 00:10.32 | The_Vulture | dpkg -L perhaps |
| 00:10.32 | dpkg | ii perhaps 3.4-4.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 00:11.04 | strefli3 | found it! |
| 00:11.11 | eeyore- | toad_: doesn't happen here |
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| 00:11.46 | eeyore- | toad_: you could try shutting down samba, delete its "temporary" files (*.tdb in its working directories, don't delete the user/password database :-D) and restart daemons |
| 00:12.00 | rich_ | strefli3 whereis also try the which command |
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| 00:12.11 | Nom | I've managed to finally get samba3 to "join" the domain properly |
| 00:12.19 | Nom | but it won't query the usernames from the domain now |
| 00:12.23 | Nom | It's rather annoying :/ |
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| 00:12.53 | OvrLrd-Q | alright who was it that told me last night that the kernel compile wasn't goign to take that long :-( |
| 00:12.59 | Nom | oh |
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| 00:13.04 | Nom | i just realised something |
| 00:13.20 | GrayThunder | is there any way to tell what block size was used on a tape? when i run tar -tvf /dev/sg0 i get an error of wrong block size. |
| 00:13.24 | OvrLrd-Q | it's been going for like the past 18 hours |
| 00:13.31 | Nom | nope, it's up |
| 00:14.06 | Nom | `wbinfo -u` is only returning users from the trusted domain, and not from the domain i just joined... |
| 00:14.21 | rich_ | OvrLrd-Q It wasnt me but how many days did they say it would take? |
| 00:14.23 | toad_ | eeyore-: last time it seemed to be grumbling precisely because these files didn't exist |
| 00:14.45 | OvrLrd-Q | rich_ no . . . |
| 00:15.32 | OvrLrd-Q | IT was mwilson . . . that ass :-( |
| 00:15.52 | Chromakode | i hope this isnt one of those annoying once-every-15-minutes questions: but, anybody know the status for kde 3.2 packages? |
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| 00:16.03 | rich_ | OvrLrd-Q mwilson means well I think. |
| 00:16.09 | OvrLrd-Q | but I should of guessed 10 minutes was an exxageration |
| 00:16.33 | OvrLrd-Q | i mean . . i started it at like 2am and it's 6pm and it's still going |
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| 00:16.51 | OvrLrd-Q | it just now reached the net/* directory |
| 00:17.23 | rich_ | OvrLrd-Q Thats sounds like its too long to me. What kind of processor/memory do you have? |
| 00:17.29 | ljlane | caphuso, are you the zsh guy? |
| 00:17.33 | OvrLrd-Q | it's a lovely P-133 :) |
| 00:18.05 | ljlane | caphuso, n/m |
| 00:18.07 | OvrLrd-Q | 72MB of top quality EDO ram :-( |
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| 00:18.16 | dmb062082 | hey |
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| 00:18.27 | dmb062082 | how do i change the debian splash screen bg image |
| 00:18.28 | mhall | hello |
| 00:18.37 | dmb062082 | the one that has the boot manager |
| 00:18.52 | eeyore- | OvrLrd-Q: P133 should be able to compile in 45 minutes or so |
| 00:18.52 | OvrLrd-Q | :-( |
| 00:19.06 | rich_ | OvrLrd-Q Well I havent compiles a modern kernel with a plain pentium but it still sounds like its takeing a long time. |
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| 00:19.11 | OvrLrd-Q | maybe I should do a make clean and switch to runlevel 1 |
| 00:19.21 | mhall | I think you all will enjoy this link: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/facts/default.asp |
| 00:19.23 | beta3 | brb |
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| 00:19.36 | mhall | It's an extrememly amusing microsoft propaganda site. |
| 00:19.37 | pbx06 | hi |
| 00:19.41 | rich_ | OvrLrd-Q runlevel 1 in debian? |
| 00:19.44 | pbx06 | have a college graduation test tomorow. I am wondering what is the diff btw "ln file1 file2" AND "cp file1 file2" |
| 00:19.45 | eeyore- | that one |
| 00:19.54 | OvrLrd-Q | rich_ singleuser mode right? |
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| 00:19.57 | GrayThunder | is there any way to tell what block size was used on a tape? when i run tar -tvf /dev/sg0 i get an error of incorrect block size. |
| 00:19.58 | mhall | pbx06 graduation test? what? |
| 00:20.01 | caphuso | pbx06: the former creates a hard link, the latter copies |
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| 00:20.12 | rich_ | OvrLrd-Q I dont think so. |
| 00:20.43 | OvrLrd-Q | and runlevel 1 is used to get the system down into single user mode. |
| 00:20.48 | OvrLrd-Q | ok the man page is wrong then |
| 00:21.03 | pbx06 | caphuso that is exactly what the man pages says but when editing file1 has no effect on file2 |
| 00:21.09 | Nom | Does anyone have any troubleshooting information for setting up Samba3 on an Active Directory domain? |
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| 00:21.15 | caphuso | pbx06: when using ln or cp? |
| 00:21.21 | pbx06 | ln |
| 00:21.22 | simonrvn | Nom: try #samba |
| 00:21.26 | caphuso | pbx06: and with what editor? |
| 00:21.29 | rich_ | OvrLrd-Q You might be right I just didnt think it was that way in debian. I think your only supposed to use runlevels 2-5 |
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| 00:21.47 | pbx06 | echo "newline ">>file1 |
| 00:21.55 | |stefan| | anyone know where i can add or remove methods from the capability list in ipopd ? it says "+OK Capability list follows:..TOP..LOGIN-DELAY 180..UIDL..STLS..USER..SASL LOGIN....." but on my other mailserver LOGIN isn't there .. and i need that =) |
| 00:22.00 | jehpox | I installed sarge sources to my debian, i have 2.6.1 kernel... then i booted and -> |
| 00:22.00 | jehpox | scsi0: Tagged Queuing now active for Target 0 |
| 00:22.00 | jehpox | INIT: PANIC: segmentition violation at 0x804a30c (code)! sleeping for 30 seconds. |
| 00:22.05 | jehpox | that is this? |
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| 00:22.24 | jehpox | with woody sources everything worked fine |
| 00:22.30 | pbx06 | |stefan| are u using gtkpod ? |
| 00:22.35 | Golum5 | i'm trying to upgrade from stable to testing.. why do I get "359 packaged held back" |
| 00:22.39 | OvrLrd-Q | alright let's start over with the make menuconfig |
| 00:23.05 | |stefan| | pbx06 ehmm .. no |
| 00:23.22 | oigres | Golum5: At what stage you get that? |
| 00:23.40 | Golum5 | when I do: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 00:23.51 | Justin_ | !tell Golum5 about woody->sarge |
| 00:24.09 | oigres | Golum5: You should do: apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade ; apt-get upgrade ... :=) |
| 00:24.22 | Golum5 | oke |
| 00:24.23 | caphuso | pbx06: what does 'ls -i file1 file2' say? |
| 00:24.28 | pbx06 | caphuso : ln file1 file2;echo "newLine">>file1 ; grep newLine file2|wc -l |
| 00:24.29 | simonrvn | or dselect-upgrade |
| 00:24.44 | Golum5 | it says: "bad for gnome" |
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| 00:24.58 | bjron | anyone know how to stop nautilus from taking over my desktop? |
| 00:25.15 | pbx06 | caphuso : file2 is not existing befor the ln |
| 00:25.25 | petemc | bjron: gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences |
| 00:25.29 | Golum5 | what will happend to gnome? |
| 00:25.35 | pbx06 | caphuso : i alway delet existing file befor |
| 00:25.46 | pbx06 | caphuso : ln file1 file2;echo "newLine">>file1 ; |
| 00:25.50 | Golum5 | since its bad for gnome.. and will it couse problems upgrading? |
| 00:25.52 | oigres | Golum5: It seems that there is some sort of inconsistency with gnome... Try forcing and go ahead! Good luck! If that doesn't work, try removing some gnome packages and installing them again... |
| 00:26.00 | bjron | petemc: thanks |
| 00:26.03 | pbx06 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.10 | Golum5 | oigres: ok..thx |
| 00:26.30 | caphuso | pbx06: $ touch file1; ln file1 file2;echo "newLine">>|file1 ; grep newLine file2 |
| 00:26.31 | caphuso | newLine |
| 00:26.59 | rich_ | thanks everyone. bbl |
| 00:27.06 | caphuso | pbx06: ignore the spurious | in the >>| |
| 00:27.10 | pbx06 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:27.25 | caphuso | pbx06: so... what does 'ls -i file1 file2 say'? |
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| 00:27.32 | Stormfrog | meep, I am curious to know how to set up a user account that only has ftp access, kind of like an ftp guest account. |
| 00:27.35 | pbx06 | the new line is only addes to the file1 |
| 00:27.51 | caphuso | Stormfrog: set his shell to /bin/false and add /bin/false to /etc/shells |
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| 00:28.00 | pbx06 | >ls -i file1 file2 |
| 00:28.00 | pbx06 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.24 | caphuso | pbx06: those are two different files |
| 00:28.29 | ^NoS^DarkHydra | hrmm.. I am getting an error /dev/dsp: no such device. Though it's plainly visible (ls -l /dev/dsp shows it fine). Any ideas? |
| 00:28.30 | pbx06 | yes |
| 00:28.51 | Stormfrog | caphuso: so I create a "normal" user, with the exception that I add those lines? |
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| 00:28.57 | caphuso | pbx06: are they also two different files before you run the "echo newLine >> file2"? |
| 00:29.06 | pbx06 | caphuso : no |
| 00:29.11 | simonrvn | ^NoS^DarkHydra: it means there's no h/w device, not that there's no /dev/dsp file |
| 00:29.24 | caphuso | pbx06: your shell is doing weird things |
| 00:29.30 | Golum5 | maybe I should upgrade direct to unstable for my desktop pc? |
| 00:29.35 | simonrvn | ^NoS^DarkHydra: or it's not finding it cuz of a lack of driver (or not finding the driver) |
| 00:29.37 | caphuso | Golum5: no |
| 00:29.39 | pbx06 | caphuso : ln f1 f2 is like cp f1 f2 |
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| 00:29.54 | mgrenon | hello im having a problem with opengl, the result of glxinfo is very interesting will someone go out of there way and give me a hand? the error i get is GLUT: Fatal Error in xracer: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display: :0.0 |
| 00:30.07 | Golum5 | caphuso: ok.. going for testing then:) |
| 00:30.08 | caphuso | pbx06: what filesystem are you doing that on? |
| 00:30.23 | pbx06 | reiserfs |
| 00:30.23 | OvrLrd-Q | I run make all to compile the kernel right? |
| 00:30.40 | caphuso | pbx06: and what shell are you using? |
| 00:30.45 | eeyore- | pbx06: how do you determine that "ln f1 f2" is "like" "cp f1 f2"? |
| 00:30.59 | pbx06 | caphuso /dev/hda10 / reiserfs noatime,notail |
| 00:31.07 | mgrenon | hello i really need help badly |
| 00:31.13 | pbx06 | caphuso bash |
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| 00:31.29 | pbx06 | caphuso are u student ? |
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| 00:31.44 | dmb062082 | dizzzzzzzzam how do i change the debian image that loads up when u select your user |
| 00:31.50 | eeyore- | pbx06: echo "1" > f1; echo "2" > f2; cp f1 f2; cat f2; rm f1 f2; echo "1" f1; ln f1 f2; echo "foo" > f1; cat f2 |
| 00:31.51 | caphuso | pbx06: do you have any other shell installed? |
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| 00:32.04 | Chromakode | dmb062082: get another gdm theme |
| 00:32.09 | mgrenon | please? |
| 00:32.14 | dmb062082 | gdm theme? |
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| 00:32.22 | dmb062082 | thats the only way? |
| 00:32.24 | Chromakode | mgrenon: just say your problem |
| 00:32.27 | dmb062082 | no just replacing one image? |
| 00:32.31 | mgrenon | hello im having a problem with opengl, the result of glxinfo is very interesting will someone go out of there way and give me a hand? the error i get is GLUT: Fatal Error in xracer: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display: :0.0 |
| 00:32.35 | Chromakode | dmb062082: you're talking about the login screen right |
| 00:32.40 | dmb062082 | yes |
| 00:32.41 | quant | i get "unable to find framebuffer device when trying to startx.. what could be wrong? |
| 00:32.43 | dmb062082 | it says debian |
| 00:32.47 | dmb062082 | ugly tan bg |
| 00:32.50 | `Xenocide | dmb062082: its a lovely system they have. if youd like better control, try filing a bug report / feature request with gnome |
| 00:32.53 | mgrenon | thats my problem i dont want say some things that will spam the channel |
| 00:32.54 | quant | how can i fix it a mean |
| 00:33.14 | The_Vulture | mgrenon: and what makes you think you ought to have GLX extensions? |
| 00:33.14 | Chromakode | dmb062082: there are lots of good gdm themes, and some in a gdm-themes package as i recall |
| 00:33.23 | eeyore- | mgrenon: you don't have opengl support |
| 00:33.25 | `Xenocide | bluecurves works well |
| 00:33.28 | dmb062082 | ok |
| 00:33.32 | Chromakode | i use industrial myself |
| 00:33.34 | mgrenon | eeyore-: but i do.. |
| 00:33.35 | Mage_ | what's a good file manager which don't require gnome or kde ? |
| 00:33.40 | eeyore- | mgrenon: no you don't |
| 00:33.50 | mgrenon | I installed the nvidia and everything went well in the installation |
| 00:33.50 | `Xenocide | my rommate made a gdm theme. its a robot breathing flames |
| 00:33.56 | mgrenon | i can load the module just fine |
| 00:33.59 | caphuso | Mage_: zsh + GNU coreutils (or GNU file-/find-/text-utils if you're in woody) |
| 00:34.00 | mgrenon | and everything |
| 00:34.03 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: have you changed the xfree config? |
| 00:34.04 | Chromakode | mgrenon: did you do that last step |
| 00:34.05 | pbx06 | caphuso i will try on an other box |
| 00:34.11 | mgrenon | i changed the config yes |
| 00:34.15 | mgrenon | driver to nvidia |
| 00:34.19 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: have you installed the glx half of the driver? |
| 00:34.26 | eeyore- | mgrenon: s/"but i do.."/"but i installed software package "foo"/ |
| 00:34.27 | quant | if i run a test on the XF86Config file everthings fine... |
| 00:34.27 | Chromakode | mgrenon: you need to add glx to the top modules section too |
| 00:34.34 | Mage_ | why rox-filer isn't in debian tree ? |
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| 00:34.51 | mgrenon | the drivers are not like they used to be.. its a bash script that installs the glx and everything for you |
| 00:34.55 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: apt-get install nvidia-glx |
| 00:34.56 | caphuso | Mage_: nobody packaged and uploaded it |
| 00:35.24 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: Thats not going to work in unstable, i think there is something wrong with the deb |
| 00:35.28 | `Xenocide | heh |
| 00:35.30 | pbx06 | eeyore- cause echo newLine >>f1 make f1 different from f2 and f2 is a hard link |
| 00:35.32 | `Xenocide | thats funny |
| 00:35.36 | `Xenocide | because I'm running sid |
| 00:35.44 | `Xenocide | using that package |
| 00:35.56 | eeyore- | pbx06: maybe reiserfs doesn't do hard link |
| 00:36.06 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: so what do i do with this crap i have already fiddled with? just uninstall it with the bash script? |
| 00:36.21 | Chromakode | mgrenon: why would you uninstall it |
| 00:36.39 | mgrenon | xenocide get the debian package instead of the shell script |
| 00:36.41 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: im not sure. i just let it stay and looked for what stuck around |
| 00:36.42 | mgrenon | said |
| 00:36.44 | Chromakode | mgrenon: all you need to do is plop in that package and add a the module line to your config |
| 00:36.53 | `Xenocide | theres about four debian packaged you'll need |
| 00:37.02 | `Xenocide | nvidia-common, nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx |
| 00:37.09 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: But all of that was in the shell script |
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| 00:37.22 | ^NoS^DarkHydra | does anybody have a working XF86Config for a dell laptop with neomagic video card? |
| 00:37.23 | `Xenocide | the one from nvidia? |
| 00:37.27 | mgrenon | yes |
| 00:37.32 | `Xenocide | that doesn't play nicely with debian manged files? |
| 00:37.40 | OvrLrd-Q | you trust nvidia to do something right? |
| 00:37.51 | mgrenon | yeah? |
| 00:38.05 | `Xenocide | OvrLrd-Q: well, not to be overly harsh, but the debian maintainer of the nvidia stuff isn't always on top of things either |
| 00:38.15 | OvrLrd-Q | last time I did that, I had a lovely 640x480 desktop in my WinXP machine with like 8 colors |
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| 00:38.29 | quant | does anyone here know how to help me? |
| 00:38.32 | `Xenocide | but you gotta cut him some slack, he's also an ftp master |
| 00:38.33 | Chromakode | OvrLrd-Q: nvidia drivers work fine |
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| 00:38.45 | OvrLrd-Q | Chromakode: umm . . no they dont |
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| 00:38.57 | mgrenon | Chromakode: the ones on the webpage the shell script are fine? |
| 00:39.08 | Chromakode | i havent used those with debian |
| 00:39.19 | mgrenon | why would they not work with debian? |
| 00:39.19 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: try out glxgears |
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| 00:39.22 | Esben | Hey is there som one who know a good guide for a pop3 mail server |
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| 00:39.28 | Chromakode | right now i'm building the drivers along with kernel |
| 00:39.33 | Chromakode | it works extremely well |
| 00:39.37 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: It will do the same thing zracer did |
| 00:39.51 | caphuso | mgrenon: because they overwrite files that belong to packages without diverting them |
| 00:40.05 | DMJC-L | i want to ssh into my box over the internet.. is that possible, i have an adsl connection with a static ip |
| 00:40.16 | mgrenon | ive already installed the shell crap so am i screwed? |
| 00:40.19 | caphuso | DMJC-L: of course it is possible |
| 00:40.29 | DMJC-L | not sure howto get my addresses |
| 00:40.39 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: no. ive been in your situation |
| 00:40.44 | caphuso | DMJC-L: err, you don't know your own static IP? |
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| 00:40.58 | DMJC-L | i know the modem's ip.. |
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| 00:41.03 | mgrenon | `Xenocode: do i just compile that stuff you told me to and hope it overwrites the wreck the script made? |
| 00:41.08 | DMJC-L | it assigns each computer an ip... |
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| 00:41.15 | The_Vulture | DMJC-L: that's a router, not a modem |
| 00:41.22 | DMJC-L | router sorry.. |
| 00:41.23 | cjb | Hi, all. I heard that mono made it into unstable today. What's the package name? |
| 00:41.28 | DMJC-L | adsl router/modem |
| 00:41.28 | jeanmi | I have a webcam that supposely work with the ov511 module. But still the system says that /dev/video0 is not a device ........ |
| 00:41.29 | caphuso | DMJC-L: you need to tell that "modem" that it needs to forward the ssh port to your machine |
| 00:41.29 | `Xenocide | heh, just follow the instructions in those packages, and you should have a solid system. |
| 00:41.40 | The_Vulture | what caphuso said |
| 00:41.40 | `Xenocide | you get anything wierd from dmesg about nvidia? |
| 00:41.53 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: Okay but im trying to say "what about the mess i have made" |
| 00:41.54 | DMJC-L | but what address should i give ssh |
| 00:41.55 | mgrenon | let me check |
| 00:41.59 | Carlos | hello all, anyone has tried to instal userlinux ? |
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| 00:42.07 | OvrLrd-Q | cjb: xserver-mono? |
| 00:42.11 | The_Vulture | DMJC-L: you only have one address on the internet.. |
| 00:42.22 | cjb | OvrLrd-Q: Uh, no. Mono as in the .NET runtime. |
| 00:42.26 | OvrLrd-Q | oh |
| 00:42.28 | Stormfrog | If I want to create a "guest user" with ONLY ftp access, who can only upload data to the /home/guest dir. Would this command-line do that: "useradd -d /home/guest -c "just visiting" -s /bin/false guest"? |
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| 00:42.48 | cavediver | Hi all, where can i find an apache-channel ? |
| 00:42.50 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: in dmesg it loads like a charm |
| 00:42.56 | The_Vulture | cavediver: #apache perhaps? |
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| 00:43.11 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: interesting. |
| 00:43.11 | cavediver | The_Vulture, doesn't exist. |
| 00:43.16 | OvrLrd-Q | cjb: yea it's called mono |
| 00:43.16 | DMJC-L | i have two computers.. |
| 00:43.20 | Stormfrog | cavediver: sure it does |
| 00:43.24 | Carlos | i upgraded to debian unstable from knopix 3.3 but I cant figure out how to startx gnome instead of KDE ? |
| 00:43.28 | OvrLrd-Q | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/interpreters/mono |
| 00:43.29 | DMJC-L | two boxes on one router |
| 00:43.31 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: when i startx i dont see the nvidia logo though |
| 00:43.36 | The_Vulture | cavediver: you are mistaken |
| 00:43.36 | cavediver | Yes, did a typo, sorry :) |
| 00:43.48 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: lets talk about that xfree config |
| 00:43.52 | cavediver | I thought it was strange :) |
| 00:44.07 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: heh okay |
| 00:44.10 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: please decribe the changes you made. there should be three or four |
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| 00:44.20 | mgrenon | remove dri and glcore |
| 00:44.23 | mgrenon | add glx |
| 00:44.28 | Stormfrog | Will this creata a user account with only ftp access: "useradd -d /home/guest -c "just visiting" -s /bin/false guest"? |
| 00:44.32 | `Xenocide | and? |
| 00:44.32 | mgrenon | the driver is nvidia |
| 00:44.37 | Stormfrog | *looks desperate* |
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| 00:45.05 | eeyore- | Stormfrog: proftpd |
| 00:45.26 | Chromakode | Stormfrog: this is #debian |
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| 00:45.46 | Esben | Is there some one who know a good guide for a pop3 mail server ? |
| 00:45.49 | eeyore- | Stormfrog: proftpd can use an (arbitrary) username / password file. so you could make a file for that one user, put the directory somewhere safe. jail the user to ~ directory. read up. |
| 00:45.54 | `Xenocide | Chromakode: #debian doesn't like proftpd? |
| 00:46.05 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: thats all i can think of |
| 00:46.10 | bubblemys | anyone know how to install a .bin file a cd |
| 00:46.12 | Chromakode | is it related to debian? |
| 00:46.18 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: well. thats all you're supposed to need. |
| 00:46.30 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: where is that xfree log at |
| 00:46.38 | `Xenocide | /var/log/XF* |
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| 00:46.54 | `Xenocide | i doubt it will have relevant details |
| 00:46.58 | Carlos | i upgraded to debian unstable from knopix 3.3 but I cant figure out how to startx gnome instead of KDE, can anyone help? |
| 00:46.58 | bubblemys | anyone know how to install a .bin file a cd |
| 00:47.01 | bubblemys | anyone know how to install a .bin file a cd |
| 00:47.14 | bubblemys | hey carlos |
| 00:47.17 | `Xenocide | anyways, just apt-get install nvidia-glx and see what happens. |
| 00:47.30 | bubblemys | what remove the packages for kde |
| 00:47.31 | bubblemys | then |
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| 00:47.33 | bubblemys | do an |
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| 00:47.50 | The_Vulture | bubblemys: run it like any other executable I assume.. doesn't have much to do with debian though |
| 00:47.54 | mgrenon | uh oh |
| 00:47.57 | mgrenon | look what i found |
| 00:48.00 | bubblemys | apt-get gnome-core gnome-session gnome-terminal gnome-panel gnome-utils, etc |
| 00:48.05 | mgrenon | (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 00:48.06 | bubblemys | etc being other packages you want |
| 00:48.14 | Chromakode | mgrenon: you need to remove that line |
| 00:48.19 | bubblemys | sorry don't forget the install in apt-get install |
| 00:48.22 | Chromakode | i think |
| 00:48.24 | bubblemys | <packages> |
| 00:48.26 | mgrenon | ? |
| 00:48.33 | mgrenon | i told it not to load it |
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| 00:48.46 | Chromakode | is it in Section "Module"? |
| 00:48.57 | mgrenon | it loaded dri too! |
| 00:49.00 | bubblemys | anyone know how to install a .bin file a cd |
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| 00:49.04 | Carlos | bubblemys, thanks. do you kow how to have the switch desktop as in RedHat ? so you can switch ? |
| 00:49.05 | SnoBall | Holy crap, there's a ton of users in here. |
| 00:49.11 | `Xenocide | did you write to the proper file? |
| 00:49.16 | cse2 | Is 2.6.0 supposed to read a serialata drive as sda? |
| 00:49.16 | Chromakode | SnoBall: no joke |
| 00:49.22 | SnoBall | Thankfully, I have a friend that uses Debian. |
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| 00:49.23 | bubblemys | never used redhat |
| 00:49.25 | bubblemys | sorry |
| 00:49.27 | bubblemys | hey |
| 00:49.27 | SnoBall | Brb... |
| 00:49.32 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:49.35 | Sinistrad | SnoBall, fewer than normal. |
| 00:49.37 | bubblemys | talk in private window |
| 00:49.38 | bubblemys | with me |
| 00:50.16 | DarkShock | does KDE 3.2 has been uploaded in unstable tree? |
| 00:50.27 | Chromakode | DarkShock: not yet afaik |
| 00:50.35 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: it also says this about 10,000 times Not loading .note.GNU-stack |
| 00:50.47 | Chromakode | mgrenon: it's a lot easier just to edit the file |
| 00:50.59 | delire | anyone know a good method for capturing streamed video (from URL) to disk? |
| 00:51.02 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: it always does that |
| 00:51.17 | mgrenon | im scared to edit the file but i can try i guess |
| 00:51.24 | SnoBall | The only thing I've used that is Debian-related is Knoppix. |
| 00:51.29 | SnoBall | And I liked it. |
| 00:51.48 | Chromakode | SnoBall: you'll find the real deal is even better :) |
| 00:51.50 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: Can you help me config the file the first time i do it like you would with a geforce2? |
| 00:51.58 | delire | i'm using mplayer with -cache <size> option, but naturally the cache just sits in memory and no temp file is written |
| 00:51.59 | mgrenon | ill break something :) |
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| 00:52.27 | SnoBall | I'll see if Debian is right for me, and then I'll put it on my wishlist. |
| 00:52.39 | Chromakode | mgrenon: all youll be doing is removing whole lines |
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| 00:53.01 | `Xenocide | its pretty easy to just go in and add # 's to the lines of relevance |
| 00:53.03 | keir | my ppp periodically disconnects. On redhat, the pppoe service was smart enough to reconnect, but since I've switched to debian, it doesn't. How do I fix this? |
| 00:54.47 | mgrenon | by the way thanks for being really patient with me most channels would have raped me then kicked me |
| 00:54.51 | eeyore- | what's this with cdrecord-prodvd and license keys? |
| 00:54.59 | eeyore- | commercial? |
| 00:55.08 | `Xenocide | when it says "select desired x server driver" choose nvidia, the next screen is pointless so type in something like "Nvidia GeForce2," bus identifier should be blank, as should the ram setting. then theres a ton of input settings |
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| 00:55.42 | usual | how can I pin experimental to apt-get |
| 00:55.51 | ljlane | keir, read the pppd man page. Look at the persist option. |
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| 00:56.07 | usual | hey lj |
| 00:56.09 | usual | :) |
| 00:56.14 | ljlane | 'lo usual |
| 00:56.22 | mgrenon | so i just del those load lines that are evil? |
| 00:56.26 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: the help button has plenty of extra info on that stuff |
| 00:56.31 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: comment |
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| 00:56.53 | `Xenocide | the parser for x's config ignores anything with a leading # |
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| 00:56.59 | mgrenon | k |
| 00:57.07 | razor321 | hi |
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| 00:57.34 | mgrenon | mould a wireless infrared logetic with a ps/2 converter be imps/2? |
| 00:57.36 | mgrenon | would |
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| 00:57.47 | peterS | mgrenon: probably |
| 00:57.50 | helix | !test |
| 00:57.50 | dpkg | Yes, helix, you're still online. |
| 00:58.05 | Chromakode | !test |
| 00:58.05 | comar | I try to compile potracegui... it needs some qt stuff. I've installed libqt-mt-dev and configure still says configure fails with checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (library qt-mt) not found. |
| 00:58.05 | dpkg | Yes, chromakode, you're still online. |
| 00:58.12 | Chromakode | oh good... |
| 00:58.20 | razor321 | i set-up my printer by using http://localhost:631 and the test page works but it won't print anything else, what can i do, my printer is on /dev/lp0 |
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| 00:58.34 | peterS | Yes, helix, you're still online. (I typed this *right* after you hit !test. honest.) |
| 00:58.47 | helix | sometimes i feel like when i do that dpkg should say "Yes, helix, you're *still* online. sigh." |
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| 00:59.00 | peterS | heh, right |
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| 00:59.11 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: oh btw im doing this with nano where it gets to the device im confused |
| 00:59.14 | kreg | is there an fsck that will do the deep scan such as after 31 boots? |
| 00:59.27 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: on the option |
| 00:59.29 | helix | is this lag only on my end? |
| 00:59.30 | peterS | kreg: fsck -f? |
| 00:59.31 | kreg | i don't know how to scan the system while it's mounted either |
| 00:59.36 | peterS | helix: seems to be |
| 00:59.37 | kreg | arg ican't find -f in my man page |
| 00:59.40 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: nano -w? |
| 00:59.46 | mgrenon | Option "UseFBDev" "true" |
| 00:59.58 | tragek | I know that the whole idea behind debian is "release when its ready" But from past experiance, how long do you guys figure till 3.1 |
| 01:00.28 | kreg | peterS, where did you find that tag? |
| 01:00.44 | peterS | kreg: ummm, I dunno, I've known it fora awhile |
| 01:00.44 | kreg | it sounds like "force" but i don't know what it does |
| 01:01.43 | kreg | i think my root drive has a could proglems, i'd like to run a fsck and make sure it's ok. but i don't know how to do that by hand. |
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| 01:01.56 | kreg | says can't do it while mounted |
| 01:02.20 | Orhad | is there a way to check multiple files' md5sums to a text file contain many sums in it ? |
| 01:02.21 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: will you look at the file i just made? |
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| 01:02.28 | `Xenocide | i guess |
| 01:02.41 | tam | hi all, i am trying to start courier-imap but i get this error... Starting Courier IMAP server:bind: Address already in use |
| 01:02.45 | tam | any ideas? |
| 01:02.47 | mgrenon | can i post it in the flood? |
| 01:02.51 | mgrenon | is there a flood channel? |
| 01:02.56 | Chromakode | #flood |
| 01:02.59 | `Xenocide | that might be excessive but #flood exists |
| 01:03.14 | mgrenon | the reason i say that is i tried writing it as a user hehe |
| 01:03.18 | mgrenon | i cant save it doh |
| 01:03.23 | mgrenon | i think i screwed up anyways |
| 01:03.39 | mgrenon | should i use xf86config |
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| 01:04.31 | billytwowilly | anyone know if the red hat install wizard stuff has been fully ported to debian yet? |
| 01:04.38 | billytwowilly | is it still as much of a pain in the arse (and ugly) to install debian as it was a year ago? |
| 01:04.40 | SnoBall | Ok, is Debian really designed for the end user, or do you need some Linux background to install? |
| 01:04.54 | Chromakode | SnoBall: a little background helps a lot |
| 01:05.01 | petemc | !tell billytwowilly about install |
| 01:05.20 | Carlos | could someone help me with my sound cards ? |
| 01:05.27 | Carlos | card.. only one.. |
| 01:05.27 | billytwowilly | SnoBall: That's my question too;) a year ago when I tried to install it it was fairly difficult (not as bad as gentoo though) but nowhere near as nice as mandrake. |
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| 01:05.46 | billytwowilly | petemc: Thank you very much. I haven't read that yet, but I'm guessing it'll be quite helpfull. |
| 01:06.03 | `Xenocide | im not sure how being designed for the end user is the same as needing background to install |
| 01:06.09 | `Xenocide | are related |
| 01:06.09 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: do i want addition XKB options? |
| 01:06.19 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: i have no idea |
| 01:06.25 | mgrenon | do you know what that is lol? |
| 01:06.35 | `Xenocide | something about keyboards |
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| 01:07.10 | SnoBall | Ok, so, I should change it to something easier, like Mandrake, for example? |
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| 01:07.25 | SnoBall | I really want to bust out and use something different. |
| 01:07.29 | perfect_stranger | hello |
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| 01:07.48 | SnoBall | Hey. |
| 01:08.02 | SnoBall | So, is anyone going to answer my question. |
| 01:08.07 | SnoBall | Ah forget it. |
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| 01:08.16 | SnoBall | Off to Mandrake's channel. |
| 01:08.19 | `Xenocide | if you want something that's user friendly you might try windows |
| 01:08.23 | De_Mon | how do i change the font in ATerm? |
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| 01:08.34 | SnoBall | I already know how to use Windows. |
| 01:08.34 | Carlos | could someone help me with my sound card? |
| 01:08.43 | SnoBall | I hack my registry every now and then. |
| 01:08.52 | SnoBall | and it's wearing down on me. |
| 01:09.05 | `Xenocide | so you want to switch to linux to learn something new |
| 01:09.05 | billytwowilly | is there a place that lists what all the debian names correspond to as version numbers? |
| 01:09.07 | shlomil | knoppix is kinda user friendly, no ? |
| 01:09.09 | De_Mon | ugh, its like SHIFT-left-click |
| 01:09.15 | De_Mon | or something... cant remember |
| 01:09.19 | SnoBall | Yeah, I used that before |
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| 01:09.30 | `Xenocide | Mandrake is about as windowsy as it gets |
| 01:09.57 | shlomil | debian is hacker-friendly :) |
| 01:09.59 | SnoBall | Yeah. |
| 01:10.10 | SnoBall | Yeah, you've convinced me. |
| 01:10.10 | chickeneater | hello |
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| 01:10.12 | `Xenocide | try out the new installer |
| 01:10.20 | `Xenocide | i hear its quite good |
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| 01:10.29 | SnoBall | Mandrake is really designed to be more towards Windows users. |
| 01:10.30 | chickeneater | anybody know about the NVIDIA driver? |
| 01:10.31 | `Xenocide | if you dont like it, post on the developer's weblog ^_^ |
| 01:10.39 | SnoBall | No. |
| 01:10.45 | chickeneater | I am having some issues with starting the device |
| 01:10.45 | grumbel | chickeneater: yo |
| 01:10.49 | Nicolo` | what is 'experimental'? is it another development branch such as sid and sarge? |
| 01:10.53 | shlomil | chickeneater: know what ? |
| 01:10.53 | chickeneater | grumbel: yo yo |
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| 01:11.06 | chickeneater | shlomil: know how to configure it properly |
| 01:11.10 | shlomil | chickeneater: what issues ? |
| 01:11.14 | chickeneater | this is the error I got at startx |
| 01:11.18 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: ugh i cant do this xf86config is there a bug in the dpkg one |
| 01:11.26 | shlomil | chickeneater: i just did . today :) |
| 01:11.30 | chickeneater | (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device |
| 01:11.30 | chickeneater | (WW) NVIDIA: Chipset "GeForce" in Device section "Card0" isn't valid for this driver |
| 01:11.35 | grumbel | Nicolo`: kind of, it is more unstable than unstable, but its more an add-on to unstable than a complete different branch I think |
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| 01:11.36 | chickeneater | shlomil: cool |
| 01:11.56 | Nicolo` | so how can i find deb sources of it? |
| 01:12.03 | shlomil | chickeneater: are you using the new 5336 ? |
| 01:12.12 | `Xenocide | ive never had a problem editing that file. its just like you said, drop GLCore and dri, add glx and change nv to nvidia |
| 01:12.23 | chickeneater | that sounds familiar but don't know what you are talking about |
| 01:13.10 | `Xenocide | maybe this would be a good time to advertise about #nvidia |
| 01:13.10 | shlomil | chickeneater: edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and do what he said |
| 01:13.20 | chickeneater | there was a list of cards in the message above that error that contained my card (geforce 3 ti 200 |
| 01:13.21 | chickeneater | ) |
| 01:13.21 | grumbel | Nicolo`: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib non-free |
| 01:13.29 | chickeneater | ok |
| 01:13.32 | grumbel | Nicolo`: somewhere hidden on the debian pages |
| 01:13.47 | `Xenocide | experimental is where the bad packages hide |
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| 01:13.58 | grumbel | Nicolo`: experimental doesn't get installed by default, so you have to do "apt-get install foo/experimental" to install something from it |
| 01:13.58 | petemc | is there much in contrib and non-free in experimental? ive only been using main |
| 01:14.01 | `Xenocide | if you dont expect it to work, experimental is a good choice |
| 01:14.14 | Nicolo` | oh, i see |
| 01:14.15 | Treatz | If anyone can tell me how to make a CSS div have wordwrap, i'll give em a cookie. |
| 01:14.16 | hacim | does anyone know how to make a UML filesystem of an existing system? |
| 01:14.16 | shlomil | actually, in #nvidia no1 helped, i ended up helping other .. |
| 01:14.19 | grumbel | Nicolo`: but you should know what you are doing when toying with experimental |
| 01:14.40 | Nicolo` | ok, so i'm staying with unstable :) |
| 01:14.41 | chickeneater | shlomil: in what section? devices? |
| 01:14.58 | chickeneater | shlomil: I already have a load "glx" under modules |
| 01:15.00 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: omg i told dpkg to remove those and there are still there in the file.. |
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| 01:15.44 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: just nano -w /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 the damn thing. |
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| 01:16.30 | billytwowilly | petemc: I'm slightly confused by that page you sent me. So in order to not have to use the crummy default debian installer (and to get auto hardware detection ala mandrake) I have to use another debian based distro like progeny and then just use debian .deb sources? |
| 01:16.40 | johndo | is there a way to switch from a static IP to dhcp while the computer is ruinning? |
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| 01:16.49 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: okay okay ill do it but what option goes on the driver? |
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| 01:16.56 | billytwowilly | johndo: man ifconfif |
| 01:17.01 | billytwowilly | err. ifconfig |
| 01:17.14 | mgrenon | Driver "nvidia" |
| 01:17.14 | mgrenon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:17.20 | mgrenon | ouch sorry about the spam |
| 01:17.23 | mgrenon | accident |
| 01:17.24 | `Xenocide | never seen that |
| 01:17.28 | `Xenocide | comment it out |
| 01:17.36 | mgrenon | thats the device section |
| 01:17.46 | dmb062082 | johndo yeah |
| 01:17.48 | bancus | nvidia doesn't interact nicely with the framebuffer device |
| 01:18.03 | dmb062082 | hey |
| 01:18.03 | mgrenon | k so im dong this # Option |
| 01:18.03 | bancus | In fact, I've had problems with it just compiled into my kernel. |
| 01:18.11 | dmb062082 | what are the good file sharing apps debian has? |
| 01:18.12 | `Xenocide | i thought it was just fb consoles |
| 01:18.13 | hacim | anyone know how to mirror an existing machine into a UML filesystem? |
| 01:18.20 | dmb062082 | does it have klite++ ? |
| 01:18.26 | bancus | dmb062082, mldonkey for edonkey/emule, mutella for gnutella |
| 01:18.32 | `Xenocide | direct connect |
| 01:18.45 | dmb062082 | direct connect is good for a lot of stuff but not mp3s |
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| 01:18.55 | `Xenocide | bittorrent |
| 01:19.09 | bancus | `Xenocide, AFAIK, it's for directFB |
| 01:19.09 | dmb062082 | bittorent is also nice for large files |
| 01:19.11 | dmb062082 | not mp3s |
| 01:19.19 | dmb062082 | so mldonkey? |
| 01:19.25 | port80 | hey guys having trouble getting postfix to work with mysql. I'm getting an error saying that it cant connect to /var/run/mysqld/mysql.sock - however it exists and mysql is running - input please ? |
| 01:19.25 | `Xenocide | i hear gnutella is nice for music |
| 01:19.28 | ^NoS^DarkHydra | is anybody here using a laptop with neomagic graphics? |
| 01:19.31 | `Xenocide | edonkey is nice for movies |
| 01:19.36 | dmb062082 | mutella eh? |
| 01:20.02 | bancus | yeah |
| 01:20.08 | bancus | mutella is the best gnutella client ever |
| 01:20.12 | bancus | but it's a CLI program |
| 01:20.18 | bancus | that's it's only drawback |
| 01:20.22 | bancus | its |
| 01:20.23 | mgrenon | brb ill try it out |
| 01:20.25 | grumbel | port80: permission problems maybe? |
| 01:20.57 | port80 | grumbel, I chmod'd it 777 to test :( |
| 01:21.31 | `Xenocide | what's the command to search packages for a file, like say "tsclient-applet"? |
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| 01:21.42 | De_Mon | `Xenocide apt-file earch |
| 01:21.44 | De_Mon | search |
| 01:21.58 | De_Mon | `Xenocide or, if the package is installed, dpkg -S </path/to/file> |
| 01:22.05 | dmb062082 | hrm |
| 01:22.10 | dmb062082 | do i need to download a gui for mutella? |
| 01:22.11 | dmb062082 | wtf |
| 01:22.32 | immoral | ls |
| 01:22.36 | immoral | ls |
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| 01:23.03 | Esben | what is a good pop3 server for debian ? |
| 01:23.07 | `Xenocide | De_Mon: thanks |
| 01:23.15 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: hehe it didnt work the error was |
| 01:23.15 | ymir | Esben: netcat |
| 01:23.29 | Esben | is that a mail server or a client ? |
| 01:23.34 | mgrenon | something wrong with the config file |
| 01:24.00 | dmb062082 | CLI program |
| 01:24.04 | dmb062082 | console interface? |
| 01:24.08 | ymir | Oh, it cano modere. And more. At only 4.959$! |
| 01:24.14 | dmb062082 | then how the hell do i get access to shared files? |
| 01:24.17 | guk | okay ... I do apt-get install kde-base it doesn't work anymore ? How do I install KDE and all the base packages in debian ? |
| 01:24.19 | mgrenon | can i dcc you the config? |
| 01:24.28 | hacim | can I do a dd if=/dev/hdc1 of=home_fs and then mount home_fs somewhere? |
| 01:24.44 | ymir | guk: apt-get install kdelibs? |
| 01:24.45 | guk | that might work too ... |
| 01:24.46 | guk | ;-) |
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| 01:24.49 | troubled | guk: in sarge? |
| 01:24.54 | `Xenocide | CLI = command line interface |
| 01:24.54 | guk | yeah ... debian unstable |
| 01:25.05 | ymir | That's Sid. |
| 01:25.08 | Esben | ymir; is natcat a server or a client ? |
| 01:25.10 | troubled | guk: try #debian-kde, debian kde insall is fucked atm |
| 01:25.12 | dmb062082 | xeon a file sharing app thats CLI Lol |
| 01:25.14 | dmb062082 | give me a break |
| 01:25.16 | guk | ah :) alrighty |
| 01:25.22 | dmb062082 | i wont waste my time with it |
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| 01:25.23 | troubled | guk: might be same in sid too |
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| 01:25.25 | ymir | troubled: atm? heh. |
| 01:25.35 | troubled | ymir: :) |
| 01:25.38 | `Xenocide | mgrenon: are you behind a firewall? |
| 01:25.45 | ymir | Esben: it was a joke. try courier. |
| 01:25.47 | mgrenon | yeah i though i had the port open |
| 01:26.05 | `Xenocide | appears not |
| 01:26.11 | mgrenon | oh that was for xchat who knows what port irssi uses |
| 01:26.37 | mgrenon | well i think i know where i messed up at ill try to explain it to you |
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| 01:27.08 | Esben | ymir: i not that good at linux yet so dont know what for real an what is not :D Do yuo know a good guide for courier ? (Is i a pop3 server ?) |
| 01:27.15 | jamesm__ | How do you forcibly remove a package ? it has errors that prevent it from being removed normally with apt-get remove, is there anything harsher ? |
| 01:27.32 | ymir | dpkg -r --force-all |
| 01:27.38 | jamesm__ | thank you ymir |
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| 01:27.46 | mgrenon | `Xenocide: The screens section |
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| 01:28.02 | mgrenon | device was nvidia for monitor i put KDS (that was the identifier i put) |
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| 01:28.14 | ^NoS^DarkHydra | does anybody know anything about getting X 4.1 neomagic driver to update the screen properly? |
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| 01:28.23 | jamesm__ | ymir, it still didn't remove it. any other ideas ? |
| 01:28.38 | ymir | jamesm__: what did it say? pastebin.com |
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| 01:28.48 | Nicolo` | i get the message "KDEInit could not launch KMail" |
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| 01:29.12 | Nicolo` | it happened after 'trying' to install the new released KDE 3.2 |
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| 01:29.26 | Nom | argh :/ |
| 01:29.30 | jamesm__ | ymir, http://pastebin.com/38977 |
| 01:29.32 | ymir | what's up with everybody and kde 3.2? |
| 01:29.43 | Nom | can anyone provide some quick help with iptables? :) |
| 01:29.56 | troubled | Nom: man iptables, that quick enough for ya? :) |
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| 01:30.08 | Nom | i need to NAT all incoming requests to port 8080 to port 3128, but allow localhost to access port 8080 |
| 01:30.36 | troubled | Nom: localhost connections arent usually NAT'd anyways |
| 01:30.50 | troubled | Nom: unless you enable the kernel option for it and use it |
| 01:31.29 | Nom | i probably did :) |
| 01:31.40 | ymir | Hm. |
| 01:31.41 | Nom | it was looping...i know that much |
| 01:31.54 | michal | hi.. does anyone know what can cause the telnet deamon to give this sort of error? the error doesn't seem to make sense in our situation |
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| 01:32.03 | ymir | $ host pastebin.com. |
| 01:32.03 | ymir | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 01:32.03 | michal | Feb 4 11:46:27 cossa in.telnetd[13241]: warning: can't get client address: Connection reset by peer |
| 01:32.05 | michal | Feb 4 11:46:27 cossa in.telnetd[13241]: connect from unknown |
| 01:32.20 | bztunk | michal: and why are you using telnet? |
| 01:32.20 | LoRez | michal: looks like a portscan |
| 01:32.26 | ymir | michal: are you starting it from inetd? |
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| 01:32.39 | wethion | Ok, I hesitate to ask this because I haven't been watching the mailing lists for a few days, and I have like close to 1200 messages. is there anything up with galeon? |
| 01:32.40 | michal | bzt: because old host access doesn't support ssh |
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| 01:32.55 | Nom | funky |
| 01:32.56 | Nom | worked it |
| 01:32.57 | Nom | out |
| 01:32.58 | michal | ymir: i thing so.. inetd is defaultt woody config right? |
| 01:32.59 | bztunk | michal: hum, ok, whatever that means :D |
| 01:33.03 | Nom | -s ! 127.0.0.1 does the trick :P |
| 01:33.05 | LoRez | ~tell nom about enter |
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| 01:33.14 | michal | lorez: no.. it's an attempted telnet login.. which should work |
| 01:33.22 | bztunk | wethion: well i know it entered testing |
| 01:33.30 | troubled | Nom: hers what I use to redirect port 2525 to 25: iptables -I PREROUTING -d <MYIP> -p tcp -m tcp --dport 2525 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 25 |
| 01:33.46 | michal | the problem has only surfaced since anti virus software (these clients are win98) was installed on these machines |
| 01:33.52 | ymir | michal: well, I meant 'how do you start telnetd?' |
| 01:33.58 | michal | no debian woody refuses telnet connections from those hosts with this error |
| 01:34.17 | wethion | I'm sorry, I'm running unstable, I should have stated that. any probs with Galeon in unstable.. thanks bztunk... |
| 01:34.27 | delire | has anyone used the -dumpfile option in mplayer to successfully write a stream to disk? |
| 01:34.29 | michal | ymir: i don't. apt-get install telnetd and whatever the default is.. and i'm fairly sure that's inetd though i have never checked |
| 01:34.48 | ymir | michal: hm, well, TCP wrappers? |
| 01:34.54 | barretj | i am trying to install kde, i do 'apt-get install kde' and i get an error about unmet dependancies, how can i fix this? |
| 01:34.55 | FieldySnuts | !seen sussudio |
| 01:34.56 | dpkg | sussudio <Suss@sussudio.registered.freenode> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 8h 37m 39s ago, saying: '!tell night about wir'. |
| 01:35.08 | ymir | michal: maybe you have a bogus line in there? |
| 01:35.09 | LoRez | michal: uninstall the antivirus on one of them and try again, if it works, call the software vendor and bitch them out |
| 01:35.13 | bztunk | wethion: check the bts? |
| 01:35.22 | troubled | barretj: kde in debian is borked, go to #debian-kde and ask for help and /topic |
| 01:35.24 | michal | the debian machine configuration hasn't changed for a very long time |
| 01:35.32 | barretj | ok |
| 01:35.34 | barretj | thanks |
| 01:35.37 | troubled | np |
| 01:35.41 | michal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.12 | michal | telnet stream tcp nowait telnetd.telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.telnetd |
| 01:36.16 | michal | in inted.conf |
| 01:36.20 | michal | inetd.conf even |
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| 01:37.01 | mcgrof | anyone in the netherlands right now? I need a huge favor. |
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| 01:38.09 | FieldySnuts | !seen r0b0c0d |
| 01:38.09 | dpkg | r0b0c0d <~d00d@12.125.204.122> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 8d 10m 29s ago, saying: 'ALL OREAND THE GIFCHERRY BUSH DA BOON CHASED DA WHEASELGIFPASTECLITNUGGET SHIT'. |
| 01:38.17 | mcgrof | ymir: you in the netherlands? |
| 01:38.33 | ymir | mcgrof: Amazingly enough, I'm not. |
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| 01:38.37 | mcgrof | ymir: :( |
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| 01:39.06 | wethion | I asked dpkg about galeon and (s)he told me to add a line to the sources list for galeon 1.2.9 and mozilla 1.3. That's where the problem is, I'm getting a conflict with mozilla 1.3 from the normal mirrors when I try and reinstall galeon. has galeon been moved from debian proper? |
| 01:39.34 | mcgrof | commmnn |
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| 01:40.04 | r0b0c0d | HAHHA OK HERE WE GO, NOW WE HE STARTING TO SENSE NO MAKE OUT OF OUR CLITSAX |
| 01:40.33 | pacroon | roger that |
| 01:40.34 | `Xenocide | i seem to recall galeon being moved to testing or something recently |
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| 01:40.42 | wethion | oddities abound. |
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| 01:40.46 | *** part/#debian mcgrof (~mcgrof@studorgs.rutgers.edu) |
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| 01:40.51 | r0b0c0d | ITS ALL ABOUT THE AOL WAREZ TRADEGIFCUNTPASTE PONYNUGGET CLITSAQ |
| 01:40.59 | r0b0c0d | BUTTCLITNUGGSAQ FAGJIZZREWMNUGGETKICK BUNG-G PUNK |
| 01:41.03 | r0b0c0d | MY DAD SAYS THAT HE LIKES TO USE AOL FOR ITS STOCK QUOTES AND SHIT BUT I LIKE TO CHAT WITH YOU PEOPLLDES AND STUFF ITS FUN AND YOU ALL DONT SUCK SO MUCH |
| 01:41.06 | *** mode/#debian [+o LoRez] by ChanServ |
| 01:41.06 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@ip68-229-77-246.ri.ri.cox.net] by LoRez |
| 01:41.06 | *** mode/#debian [-o LoRez] by LoRez |
| 01:41.07 | *** mode/#debian [+o ljlane] by ChanServ |
| 01:41.07 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@ip68-229-77-246.ri.ri.cox.net] by ljlane |
| 01:41.07 | *** mode/#debian [-o ljlane] by ljlane |
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| 01:41.10 | sandman | He must be from #gentoo. |
| 01:41.15 | bztunk | OMG its JENNERZ!! |
| 01:41.24 | bztunk | sandman: haha :D |
