00:15.43 | The_Randomness | heh https://i.redd.it/xacgot3arcjy.jpg |
00:17.09 | Liquid_Ink | Heh |
00:33.48 | Wormy_away | Evil |
00:36.11 | Wormy_away | jimmies my rustle |
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10:31.16 | Ghelae | Hello. |
10:33.03 | Liquid_Ink | Hello comrade |
10:34.17 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
10:39.20 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
10:40.48 | Liquid_Ink | Pretty good |
10:40.57 | Liquid_Ink | I had some ideas for more Turr Kyolm belt species |
10:42.28 | Liquid_Ink | A species of communal algae that can form into large gestalt organisms, sharing intellectual capacity to become sapient. Basically to serve as a http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gen%27Dai ripoff. |
10:47.19 | Ghelae | So you explain their highly resistant physiology by being made of smaller independent organisms. |
10:47.41 | Liquid_Ink | Yes. |
10:47.50 | Liquid_Ink | Also similar to the Lekgolo from Halo |
10:48.10 | Liquid_Ink | http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Lekgolo |
10:49.13 | Liquid_Ink | I might not make them algae, but they'll be something small and gestalt making |
10:50.10 | Ghelae | More like Lekgolo than algae. |
10:50.32 | Ghelae | If you just make them out of unicellular organisms, you have nothing better than any multicellular organism. |
10:51.22 | Liquid_Ink | Hmm. |
10:51.37 | Ghelae | Because that's all multicellular organisms are, essentially: lots of single cells, each specialised to fulfil a particular role. And specialising them enough to function as an intelligent animal means specialising them so much that they don't survive on their own. |
10:52.36 | Ghelae | But making an organism out of smaller creatures means that the specialised cells are organised into groups that are capable of surviving independently. |
10:52.48 | Liquid_Ink | I wasn't thinking of them being clusters of single-celled organisms, but certainly small organisms. |
10:55.59 | Ghelae | There are plenty of microscopic animals you could take some inspiration from. I could suggest combining things like sponges with other organisms like algae and slime moulds and fungi, but then I'd basically be describing an asterite. |
10:57.35 | Liquid_Ink | Hmm, a gestalt of more than one species? |
10:57.40 | Liquid_Ink | Like bluebottle jellyfish |
10:58.12 | Ghelae | Yes. |
10:59.17 | Liquid_Ink | My other idea for a species had a similar shared-mind to create sapience thing, but far more unrealistic: a sentient virus. |
11:02.54 | Liquid_Ink | My main idea for them is that nobody would think of a method of achieving parley with them, until the DSB hits upon the idea of giving them mindless clone bodies to infect. |
11:06.33 | Ghelae | Is there a reason for this to be a virus rather than some other pathogen? |
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11:08.32 | Liquid_Ink | No, not really |
11:08.47 | Liquid_Ink | Parasites and bacteria probably make much more sense |
11:16.39 | Ghelae | Yes; a virus is one of the few cases in which it's very unlikely for them to communicate with each other in a consistent way. |
11:17.28 | Liquid_Ink | Ah, but what about essence, the magically way to screw over realism? |
11:17.44 | Ghelae | The consistency is important: your brain wouldn't work if your neurons were constantly randomly changing their connections, so nor would this pathogen intelligence work if the individual pathogens were randomly moving around and being carried by blood etc. |
11:18.21 | Ghelae | If you're using magic, the intelligence exists outside of the individual components, and the virus is redundant. |
11:18.35 | Ghelae | In other words, you don't have an intelligent virus; you have a haunted plague. |
11:20.56 | Liquid_Ink | Hmm. |
11:23.03 | Ghelae | (In a little more detail: magic avoids the need for physical closeness or connectivity by having connections made of essence that are maintained regardless of how the viruses move around. So the connections - and hence the mind itself - are not made up of viruses or any chemicals associated with them.) |
11:42.34 | Liquid_Ink | I'm making a map of the Belt after the Zarni Empire collapses |
11:45.33 | Liquid_Ink | Most DSB protected states having joined the DSB, though the Ravons are still independent. |
12:02.55 | Liquid_Ink | Hmm, I don't have a symbol for one of my planned fictions |
12:03.00 | Liquid_Ink | Symbols are so much hassle |
12:44.52 | Liquid_Ink | Actually, this new symbol turned out pretty good |
12:46.42 | Liquid_Ink | BTW, this is one of my prototype maps for a Turr Kyolm map just prior to the Lequian-Zarni war |
12:46.43 | Liquid_Ink | http://i.imgur.com/69Jy2bc.png |
12:47.47 | Liquid_Ink | http://i.imgur.com/suTz8Aa.png This is the post-Zarni map |
12:47.57 | Liquid_Ink | *Post-Zarni Empire |
12:48.30 | Liquid_Ink | Prototype |
12:48.37 | Liquid_Ink | Any thoughts on either? |
12:51.41 | Liquid_Ink | Ghelae pay attention to me it's vital sustenunce |
13:05.32 | Ghelae | Oops, sorry. My computer runs a virus scan every other Sunday and it often runs quite slow. That makes me not so keen to move between tabs and windows. I think I'll change the settings. |
13:08.03 | Ghelae | I'm assuming there's a good reason for New Kavideon to be apparently in the same system as Kavideon, but I suppose I'll have to wait to find out. |
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13:59.27 | Wormy_ | I'm getting really into this blog http://alanwinfield.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/the-ibrain-device-for-seeing-your.html |
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20:08.03 | Ghelae | Impressive. |
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20:22.30 | Ghelae | Hello. |
20:22.32 | Ghelae | [13:08] <@Ghelae> I'm assuming there's a good reason for New Kavideon to be apparently in the same system as Kavideon, but I suppose I'll have to wait to find out. |
20:24.13 | Ghelae | Oh, and prior to that: |
20:24.14 | Ghelae | [13:05] <@Ghelae> Oops, sorry. My computer runs a virus scan every other Sunday and it often runs quite slow. That makes me not so keen to move between tabs and windows. I think I'll change the settings. |
20:25.02 | Liquid_Ink | Okay, thank you for your feedback |
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