IRC log for #cyrannus on 20170305

00:15.43The_Randomnessheh https://i.redd.it/xacgot3arcjy.jpg
00:17.09Liquid_InkHeh
00:33.48Wormy_awayEvil
00:36.11Wormy_awayjimmies my rustle
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10:31.16GhelaeHello.
10:33.03Liquid_InkHello comrade
10:34.17Liquid_InkHow are you?
10:39.20GhelaeI'm okay; how about you?
10:40.48Liquid_InkPretty good
10:40.57Liquid_InkI had some ideas for more Turr Kyolm belt species
10:42.28Liquid_InkA species of communal algae that can form into large gestalt organisms, sharing intellectual capacity to become sapient. Basically to serve as a http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gen%27Dai ripoff.
10:47.19GhelaeSo you explain their highly resistant physiology by being made of smaller independent organisms.
10:47.41Liquid_InkYes.
10:47.50Liquid_InkAlso similar to the Lekgolo from Halo
10:48.10Liquid_Inkhttp://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Lekgolo
10:49.13Liquid_InkI might not make them algae, but they'll be something small and gestalt making
10:50.10GhelaeMore like Lekgolo than algae.
10:50.32GhelaeIf you just make them out of unicellular organisms, you have nothing better than any multicellular organism.
10:51.22Liquid_InkHmm.
10:51.37GhelaeBecause that's all multicellular organisms are, essentially: lots of single cells, each specialised to fulfil a particular role. And specialising them enough to function as an intelligent animal means specialising them so much that they don't survive on their own.
10:52.36GhelaeBut making an organism out of smaller creatures means that the specialised cells are organised into groups that are capable of surviving independently.
10:52.48Liquid_InkI wasn't thinking of them being clusters of single-celled organisms, but certainly small organisms.
10:55.59GhelaeThere are plenty of microscopic animals you could take some inspiration from. I could suggest combining things like sponges with other organisms like algae and slime moulds and fungi, but then I'd basically be describing an asterite.
10:57.35Liquid_InkHmm, a gestalt of more than one species?
10:57.40Liquid_InkLike bluebottle jellyfish
10:58.12GhelaeYes.
10:59.17Liquid_InkMy other idea for a species had a similar shared-mind to create sapience thing, but far more unrealistic: a sentient virus.
11:02.54Liquid_InkMy main idea for them is that nobody would think of a method of achieving parley with them, until the DSB hits upon the idea of giving them mindless clone bodies to infect.
11:06.33GhelaeIs there a reason for this to be a virus rather than some other pathogen?
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11:08.32Liquid_InkNo, not really
11:08.47Liquid_InkParasites and bacteria probably make much more sense
11:16.39GhelaeYes; a virus is one of the few cases in which it's very unlikely for them to communicate with each other in a consistent way.
11:17.28Liquid_InkAh, but what about essence, the magically way to screw over realism?
11:17.44GhelaeThe consistency is important: your brain wouldn't work if your neurons were constantly randomly changing their connections, so nor would this pathogen intelligence work if the individual pathogens were randomly moving around and being carried by blood etc.
11:18.21GhelaeIf you're using magic, the intelligence exists outside of the individual components, and the virus is redundant.
11:18.35GhelaeIn other words, you don't have an intelligent virus; you have a haunted plague.
11:20.56Liquid_InkHmm.
11:23.03Ghelae(In a little more detail: magic avoids the need for physical closeness or connectivity by having connections made of essence that are maintained regardless of how the viruses move around. So the connections - and hence the mind itself - are not made up of viruses or any chemicals associated with them.)
11:42.34Liquid_InkI'm making a map of the Belt after the Zarni Empire collapses
11:45.33Liquid_InkMost DSB protected states having joined the DSB, though the Ravons are still independent.
12:02.55Liquid_InkHmm, I don't have a symbol for one of my planned fictions
12:03.00Liquid_InkSymbols are so much hassle
12:44.52Liquid_InkActually, this new symbol turned out pretty good
12:46.42Liquid_InkBTW, this is one of my prototype maps for a Turr Kyolm map just prior to the Lequian-Zarni war
12:46.43Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/69Jy2bc.png
12:47.47Liquid_Inkhttp://i.imgur.com/suTz8Aa.png This is the post-Zarni map
12:47.57Liquid_Ink*Post-Zarni Empire
12:48.30Liquid_InkPrototype
12:48.37Liquid_InkAny thoughts on either?
12:51.41Liquid_InkGhelae pay attention to me it's vital sustenunce
13:05.32GhelaeOops, sorry. My computer runs a virus scan every other Sunday and it often runs quite slow. That makes me not so keen to move between tabs and windows. I think I'll change the settings.
13:08.03GhelaeI'm assuming there's a good reason for New Kavideon to be apparently in the same system as Kavideon, but I suppose I'll have to wait to find out.
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13:59.27Wormy_I'm getting really into this blog http://alanwinfield.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/the-ibrain-device-for-seeing-your.html
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20:08.03GhelaeImpressive.
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20:22.30GhelaeHello.
20:22.32Ghelae[13:08] <@Ghelae> I'm assuming there's a good reason for New Kavideon to be apparently in the same system as Kavideon, but I suppose I'll have to wait to find out.
20:24.13GhelaeOh, and prior to that:
20:24.14Ghelae[13:05] <@Ghelae> Oops, sorry. My computer runs a virus scan every other Sunday and it often runs quite slow. That makes me not so keen to move between tabs and windows. I think I'll change the settings.
20:25.02Liquid_InkOkay, thank you for your feedback
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