IRC log for #cyrannus on 20160824

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00:14.31Wormy_STOdamn these  crashes
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09:12.39Liquid_InkHey Ghel
09:13.43GhelaeHello.
09:14.36Liquid_InkHow are you?
09:29.44GhelaeI'm okay; how about you?
09:39.43Liquid_InkPretty good
09:40.24Liquid_InkI'm thinking of the politics of my fiction universe's local Federation-knockoff
09:43.03GhelaeHave you got anywhere with those thoughts?
09:45.36Liquid_InkRound a few circles
09:46.41Liquid_InkThe state is meant to be more or less a utopia, much like how Roddenberry wanted the Federation but failed to describe well enough.
09:47.32Liquid_InkI was worried that if the state is run perfectly, then the party in power would become popular enough to be a dominant party state, which generally speaking are suspicious states as far as their democracy goes
09:49.21Liquid_InkOf course, this kind of thinking is based upon the idea that there would be a major left-wing party opposed to a right-wing party
09:54.24Liquid_InkI suppose at this stage the state (which for clarity is called the "Union of Democratic States" or "The Union") would have accepted left-wing politics as the only compassionate politics, though right wing parties would have marginal portions of legislature, and instead of a singular left wing party they would vote for parties representing more minor issues
10:09.18GhelaeThis isn't something I know much about, so: is non-party politics too impractical to work?
10:10.21GhelaeSince politicians would not be pushed into agreeing with party policies, even if they personally do not agree with them, that would seem to me to add a little to the utopian theme.
10:15.13Liquid_InkThat's a possibility, but in my experience I prefer partisan politics to non-partisan politics
10:16.53Liquid_InkI feel independents lead to personality politics, and that's not a good thing
10:31.44GhelaeThat seems understandable.
10:33.11GhelaeYes; if nearly all of the politicians agree on some general principles (e.g. the left-wing politic that you're thinking of), you might expect divisions to occur based on smaller issues instead.
10:34.04Ghelaepolitics*
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16:27.37Wormy_I see you canonised some impossible minerals
16:40.23GhelYeah; I realised some of them basically described "solified Essence" and decided to go with it.
16:51.06GhelawayMetavlitites and veneficites, apparently. Aneumetrites and negentropite just describe the simpler and more elementary physics violations that often appear but lack any explanation deeper than "magic".
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17:55.07Wormy_I see
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20:07.39GhelawayThe_Randomness: I've had a go at putting as many of the history+culture notes as I can into a draft, and reorganising the rest, on the super-collab pad.
20:07.56GhelawayI also told Drodo about it, but he doesn't seem to have got around to checking it out yet.
20:11.15GhelawayAs for linguistics, that's stalled again since Quark's been absent.
20:31.19The_RandomnessGhelaway: I'll check it out soonish
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