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00:14.31 | Wormy_STO | damn these crashes |
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09:12.39 | Liquid_Ink | Hey Ghel |
09:13.43 | Ghelae | Hello. |
09:14.36 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
09:29.44 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
09:39.43 | Liquid_Ink | Pretty good |
09:40.24 | Liquid_Ink | I'm thinking of the politics of my fiction universe's local Federation-knockoff |
09:43.03 | Ghelae | Have you got anywhere with those thoughts? |
09:45.36 | Liquid_Ink | Round a few circles |
09:46.41 | Liquid_Ink | The state is meant to be more or less a utopia, much like how Roddenberry wanted the Federation but failed to describe well enough. |
09:47.32 | Liquid_Ink | I was worried that if the state is run perfectly, then the party in power would become popular enough to be a dominant party state, which generally speaking are suspicious states as far as their democracy goes |
09:49.21 | Liquid_Ink | Of course, this kind of thinking is based upon the idea that there would be a major left-wing party opposed to a right-wing party |
09:54.24 | Liquid_Ink | I suppose at this stage the state (which for clarity is called the "Union of Democratic States" or "The Union") would have accepted left-wing politics as the only compassionate politics, though right wing parties would have marginal portions of legislature, and instead of a singular left wing party they would vote for parties representing more minor issues |
10:09.18 | Ghelae | This isn't something I know much about, so: is non-party politics too impractical to work? |
10:10.21 | Ghelae | Since politicians would not be pushed into agreeing with party policies, even if they personally do not agree with them, that would seem to me to add a little to the utopian theme. |
10:15.13 | Liquid_Ink | That's a possibility, but in my experience I prefer partisan politics to non-partisan politics |
10:16.53 | Liquid_Ink | I feel independents lead to personality politics, and that's not a good thing |
10:31.44 | Ghelae | That seems understandable. |
10:33.11 | Ghelae | Yes; if nearly all of the politicians agree on some general principles (e.g. the left-wing politic that you're thinking of), you might expect divisions to occur based on smaller issues instead. |
10:34.04 | Ghelae | politics* |
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16:27.37 | Wormy_ | I see you canonised some impossible minerals |
16:40.23 | Ghel | Yeah; I realised some of them basically described "solified Essence" and decided to go with it. |
16:51.06 | Ghelaway | Metavlitites and veneficites, apparently. Aneumetrites and negentropite just describe the simpler and more elementary physics violations that often appear but lack any explanation deeper than "magic". |
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17:55.07 | Wormy_ | I see |
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20:07.39 | Ghelaway | The_Randomness: I've had a go at putting as many of the history+culture notes as I can into a draft, and reorganising the rest, on the super-collab pad. |
20:07.56 | Ghelaway | I also told Drodo about it, but he doesn't seem to have got around to checking it out yet. |
20:11.15 | Ghelaway | As for linguistics, that's stalled again since Quark's been absent. |
20:31.19 | The_Randomness | Ghelaway: I'll check it out soonish |
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22:53.51 | Wortmy | HerLO |
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