IRC log for #cyrannus on 20160519

01:40.41Wormy_The_Randomness:  *Trekgasms" http://www.startrek.com/article/watch-teaser-trailer-for-new-star-trek-series
01:40.53The_Randomness!
01:42.00Wormy_According to this it will be set in the Prime timeline http://trekmovie.com/2016/04/13/breaking-the-new-star-trek-tv-show-will-be-set-post-undiscovered-country-pre-tng/
01:42.13The_RandomnessOh, interesting
01:43.55Wormy_Looks like we might be getting it set at more than one time, maybe
01:44.40Wormy_If post-Dominion we might see special scenes of the Next Gen crew
01:44.49The_RandomnessInteresting
01:44.49Wormy_Goodnight
01:44.52The_Randomnesscya
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09:17.30Liquid_InkHe
09:17.32Liquid_Inkey
09:17.33Liquid_InkHey
09:18.46GhelaeHello.
09:24.08Liquid_InkHow are you?
09:26.45GhelaeI'm okay; how about you?
09:30.03Liquid_InkPretty good
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10:47.46Liquid_InkYo
10:47.56GhelaeHello.
10:51.09Liquid_InkIs it plausible to have a pigmentation of blood that sorta overrules the colour from the oxygen binding thing?
10:51.21Liquid_InkI could have phrased that better?
10:51.49Liquid_Ink*no question mark
10:52.10GhelaeIt might be possible, but this is a very vivid red we're talking about overpowering here.
10:52.39Liquid_InkActually, I was thinking of making copper-based blood red.
10:53.04GhelaeRight. Same principle, though. One problem is, what purpose would this pigment serve to the creature?
10:53.56Liquid_InkYeah, that is something I'd considered
10:54.48GhelaeI remember for my SporeWiki fiction I did mention that species in the Girdo Galaxy have something like a bluish antimicrobial compound, which out-of-universe explains why blood is purplish in the Cell Stage.
10:55.30GhelaeStill a bit of a stretch, though.
10:58.08GhelaeOften in chemistry, colours come from the different oxidation states of transition metals ions. This isn't very useful for you, because then you might as well just put some red ferrous compound in the blood and then it might as well just be heme.
10:58.38GhelaeSo you'd presumably want a red-coloured non-metallic organic compound.
10:58.48GhelaeAnd I can't really help you there.
11:02.52Liquid_InkConsidering this is fantasy I think I could simply not give an explanation
11:05.01GhelaeIf you describe that it's copper-based blood, and also say that it's red, then that'll make people think you don't know what you're talking about.
11:05.30Liquid_InkYeah
11:05.35GhelaeSo you need at least a mention that there's something else that's a very vivid red in there.
11:05.50GhelaeHow it's so vivid, and what purpose it serves, you could leave unsaid.
11:06.22Liquid_InkThough I wasn't intending to specifically mention copper-based blood either
11:06.27GhelaeAnd there's a good chance that if you do elaborate, it'll just look like exposition for the sake of exposition anyway.
11:07.23GhelaeYeah; so leave it unsaid. You only need to explain a discrepancy when people will know that there is a discrepancy.
11:13.52Liquid_InkThe elves have purple blood generally. There's one kind called "Blood Elves" that have red blood.
11:14.37Liquid_InkI wanted to give them something unique about their name to warrant the "Blood" title
11:16.51Liquid_InkAs in, beyond being ruled by Vampires
11:25.10Wormy_I remember the Klingons having pink blood.
11:25.36Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BESse2LbvE
11:26.37Liquid_InkYeah, my Orcs have pink blood too
11:27.39Liquid_InkWhy would phasers cause blood to splatter?
11:30.13GhelaeSo that they can have CGI floating blood in zero-gravity.
11:31.23Liquid_InkSuppose there's a different fancy stuff I can do to Blood Elf blood besides give it a different colour?
11:33.36GhelaeIt could have a life of its own outside of their bodies, like a giant gloopy red amoeba.
11:34.11GhelaeOr even crazier: the blood could be what has a mind, and the elven body is merely a shell, a puppet.
11:38.48GhelaeMaybe, in a severe case of nominative irony, Blood Elves actually have no blood.
11:39.43Liquid_InkNah, if they couldn't feed on them, the Vampires would have merely exterminated them.
11:40.16Wormy_Well, maybe they still like blood the way adult humans like dairy?
11:41.50Liquid_InkThat was specifically referring to the "no blood" idea
11:42.02GhelaeIn that case, blood-creature-using-Elf-body-as-a-shell is still my best idea.
11:44.34Liquid_InkOn more conventional thoughts, they could simply have some sort of ritual culture concerning blood. Bloodletting and all that.
11:45.16GhelaeOh, fine. Be conventional then.
11:45.23Liquid_InkXd
11:45.25Liquid_InkXD
11:46.01GhelaeBlood-themed culture would fit well. It's also... more realistic, I suppose.
11:46.29GhelaeObviously realism isn't the greatest concern for fantasy, but I hope you know what I mean.
11:46.47GhelaeLess over-the-top. Less suspension-of-disbelief-violating. etc.
11:46.49Liquid_InkYeah, I know
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12:12.00Liquid_InkHey
12:45.58Wormy_http://www.earthlymission.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/biggest-bears-polar-infographics_3.jpg
12:46.16Wormy_Arctotherium Augustidens, North American Giant Short-Faced Bear, Eurasian Cave Bear, Polar Bear, Kodiak Bear, Brown Bear, American Black Bear, Asiatic Black Bear, Spectacled Bear, Sloth Bear, Giant Panda, Sun Bear
12:48.12Wormy_I wonder how the Carnivorans would fare against the ancient Creodonts (which Carnivorans replaced)
12:48.23Wormy_Creodonts were bigger, but less agile
12:48.41Wormy_and only used their jaws
12:48.59GhelaeGiven that the Carnivorans replaced the Creodonts, that suggests to me that the Carnivorans already fared better.
12:49.41GhelaeOf course, that may not have been so much down to fighting.
12:53.05Wormy_Creodonts and Mesonychids (Andrewsarchus, Sarkatodon, Harpagolestes and Hyenadons) http://www.johnsibbick.com/library/displayfull.asp?product=M1
12:54.08Wormy_I think the Carnivorans were better hunters, but it seems as though Carnivorans became bigger as the Creodonts were already dying out
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21:15.39CyrannianHm, who was that xenthree person?
21:17.13Wormy_Unless its Vincent, no idea
21:17.35Wormy_Well it isn't
21:17.59CyrannianProbably one of Imperios' KGB friends
21:18.30ImperiosCalumny and slander
21:18.42CyrannianBy the Imp, this British general was on the radio this morning talking about war with Russia in 2017
21:19.02ImperiosMy ancestors killed the enemies of the Motherland in honourable combat and massed infantry strikes
21:19.12ImperiosNot as mooks for Bond villains
21:20.51CyrannianHe claimed that Russia wishes to annex the Baltic states and be very naughty with the ol' nuclear weapons
21:24.06CyrannianI bring it up because I'm interested in your perception of the situation
21:24.11Wormy_The world is doomed.  Lets get off this rock.
21:25.03CyrannianGhelae should have a wormhole generator or something that we could use.
21:27.37Wormy_I was hoping you had a ship, and then remembered you was abdoned here by your kind to eat car tyres
21:27.54Wormy_*tires
21:30.44CyrannianI would appreciate it if you didn't bring up that traumatising episode, thank you very much
21:37.33ImperiosI mean you guys go to pubs and concerts and have fun there and all that
21:37.35ImperiosI hate concerts
21:37.42ImperiosLoud music
21:37.43Imperiosbrgrgrgrl
21:37.49Imperiosoh wait wrong place
21:42.09GhelCyrannian: Unfortunately, I sold my wormhole generator so I could buy cookies.
21:42.14Ghel~give Cyrannian a cookie
21:42.14infobotACTION gives Cyrannian a home-baked oatmeal raisin cookie to cheer him up.
21:48.14CyrannianGhel, that wasn't a wise investment. As you well know, the power of dance can only be used to create wormhole generators from cookies once a year.
21:48.38GhelThen we'd better hope the world doesn't end until 2017.
21:49.37Wormy_Keep it steady Putin
21:56.28Wormy_Ghel:  Who did you sell the wormhole to?
22:00.33GhelWhoever would give me enough money for cookies.
22:02.19The_RandomnessCyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/Ir9KpOa.jpg?1
22:03.16CyrannianThat's a great render
22:03.23The_RandomnessYeah
22:03.46CyrannianHm, I hope the new ST series is set after TNG come to think of it
22:03.53Cyrannian*VOY
22:04.05The_RandomnessIt's set between TOS and TNG iirc
22:04.21The_Randomnessoh, after Undiscovered Country
22:04.23The_Randomnessthere we go
22:04.41Cyrannianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpPweAooeE - Jaysus I didn't see this
22:04.55The_Randomness:P
22:06.08CyrannianNothing really revealed, but looking forward to it nonetheless!
22:06.15The_RandomnessIndeed
22:08.22Wormy_https://pics.onsizzle.com/_Xr-AGL95R-Instagram.png
22:08.34Wormy_wrong chat
22:09.29GhelAll chats are the right chat for that picture, Wormy.
22:09.41CyrannianIndeed
22:14.15The_Randomnesslmao
22:26.00CyrannianShall we partake in STO Wormy or are you still busy?
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23:30.02Wormy__lol

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