IRC log for #cyrannus on 20160421

01:24.29The_RandomnessWormy_: Got any ideas for creatures we could take inspiration from for the sapient species?
01:49.32Wormy_back
01:49.52Wormy_Hm, not any I can think of straight away
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10:27.01Liquid_InkHey babe
10:28.36Wormy_hey uhh, honey
10:28.58Liquid_InkHow are you?
10:29.50Wormy_Not happy that I let my tea go cold
10:29.59Liquid_InkOh dear
10:30.15Liquid_InkI wasn't happy I let my powerade go warm, but that's nowhere near as bad
10:30.48Liquid_InkI let my coffe go cold on Monday, and accidentally drank it. I spent the next few hours feeling like I was about the throw up.
10:30.49Wormy_Wow
10:31.13Wormy_Yeah I don't like drinking cold coffee or rushing it down quickly
10:31.49Wormy_I'm currently reading this article about the Machine Elves http://www.buildingalienworlds.com/uploads/5/7/9/9/57999785/dmt_research_1956_edge_time_arg_dpl_final.pdf
10:35.32Liquid_InkFascinating
10:37.14Wormy_People want to have an alien experience, well according to Mckenna "Aliens landing on the White House Lawn are second page news to me"
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11:03.02Wormy_I love the music from Myths, Magic and Monsters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP0hL_82dqw
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15:21.33Wormy_awayI found a philosophical article linking Machine Elves to Jungian archetypes  http://www.buildingalienworlds.com/uploads/5/7/9/9/57999785/dmt_research_1956_edge_time_arg_dpl_final.pdf
15:42.25GhelaeIt's not entirely about Jung... but yes, Machine Elves do sound like the same kind of thing as appears in e.g. other hallucinatory/apparitional experiences.
15:47.28Wormy_awayI was under the opinion people commonly perceive elves because people like Mckenna and Timothy Leary popularised their experiences.   But if people experienced it as far back as the 1950's before the counter-culture movement, so the symbols could be a lot more deeply embedded
15:48.01Wormy_awayin cultural psyche
15:48.23GhelaeYes.
15:49.50Wormy_awayThe "Is there something-it’s-like-to-be amachine elf?" remind me of Hofstadter's soul shards, tiny patterns of empathy carried from one self to another, except in this case it might be fragments of one's own self represented.
15:50.32Wormy_awayanyway, without a mechanism one can only question
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17:50.21The_RandomnessHello
17:56.27CyrannianIs DanzaDelMondo Imperios?
17:56.43The_RandomnessI think so
17:58.10DanzaDelMondoNo, I am a lesbian Al-Qaeda catgirl
18:02.00DanzaDelMondoCyrannian
18:03.06CyrannianBut that fits Imp like a button!
18:09.00DanzaDelMondoCyrannian: Seen the Inquisitor roflcopters in Rebels?
18:09.12DanzaDelMondoPlease tell me this is one thing you will *not* borrow from Star Wars
18:09.46CyrannianWasn't planning on it... I'm not even sure how it would work in the fantasy of the universe
18:11.16DanzaDelMondoYou mean SporeWiki or Star Wars?
18:11.40CyrannianStar Wars, it seems silly even by Star Wars standards
18:11.49CyrannianBut I wasn't annoyed about it or anything
18:13.34Wormy_awayStar Wars Rebels is aimed more on the kids side of viewer
18:14.24Wormy_awayNot saying that's bad or it can't have mature themes, but it also needs to channel to young kids.
18:15.09Wormy_awayif you like 6 that is probably really awesome
18:15.54Cyrannianaye, though since all of the old Inquisitors are dead I wonder if there'll be a new one next season
18:15.58CyrannianMaybe a canon Mara Jade
18:16.08Wormy_awaypleaeaeaease
18:17.20DanzaDelMondoMy sister laughed at the helicopters
18:17.33Wormy_awayAt or with?
18:17.37DanzaDelMondoAt
18:17.44CyrannianI often laugh with the helicopters
18:18.15Wormy_awaySo do I, its so rofl
18:19.26Cyranniansoi soi soi soi soi
18:20.12CyrannianDanzaDelMondo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vette_(Star_Wars) - Look who's the only SWTOR character to have a wikipedia page
18:20.28CyrannianOh!! And Vette returns in the next chapter of KotFE, looking forward to that
18:20.32DanzaDelMondo[shock collar intensifies]
18:21.37CyrannianReading the reception section annoys me, all those whiners complaining about the shock collar as sexist, ignoring the fact that you can play as a female doing it
18:21.50DanzaDelMondoYes, this is awfully sexist
18:21.59DanzaDelMondoHow patriarchal it is that only males can romance Vette
18:22.13DanzaDelMondoI demand equality
18:23.08CyrannianWouldn't be surprised if she is made romanceable for females in KotFE, as every character that you can shag  plays for both teams if you know what I mean
18:23.30DanzaDelMondoI am still sad that I cannot romance Lana and Theron at the same time
18:23.34DanzaDelMondoI flirt with both hur
18:25.48CyrannianBioware seems opposed to such things (Liara, Ashley and Shepard, Vette, Jaesa and Warrior, etc)
18:43.27Wormy_awayDanzaDelMondo:  Do you ever watch Thunderf00t?
18:43.37DanzaDelMondoThe name is familiar
18:43.50DanzaDelMondoHe is another anti-SJW guy I believe
18:44.10Wormy_awayThe guy who bashes creationists, snakeoil salesman, and then moved onto bashing SJW's, yes.
18:45.13Wormy_awayI preferred his videos before the anti-feminist rhetoric, although he does have some good points when criticiszing the likes of Anita Sarkesian and exposing her lack of references and videos despite raising so much money.
18:45.22Wormy_awayBut I think he goes way over the top
18:46.36Wormy_awayHe seems to associate all feminists as like Anita, which doesn't isn't true
18:46.58CyrannianWorm, want to meet up in STO/SWTOR/Space Engineers later?
18:47.13Wormy_awayI can meet up in STO or Space Engineers
18:47.25Wormy_awaySWTOR likely needs patching all night
18:48.08CyrannianI only played SE once, so you could show me a bit about it
18:48.16Wormy_awaySure thing
18:48.24Wormy_awayDanzaDelMondo:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwhXbfsn24w
18:48.52Wormy_awayTF made a legandary series "Why do people hate creationists"
19:00.52DanzaDelMondoCyrannian: BTW about the emblem, that made me think
19:00.58DanzaDelMondoThe emblem of hte New Republic that is
19:01.21DanzaDelMondoIf the NCR's emblem is birdlike, then what is the Empire's cross-thing supposed to represent?
19:18.14CyrannianHm, the united galaxy perhaps#
19:26.59DanzaDelMondoSo it is a stylised image of the galaxy?
19:35.22CyrannianSomething like that, though I only just came up with the idea
20:24.39Wormy_awayCyrannian, Ghelaway:  I've been invited to an awards ceremony
20:24.52Wormy_awayfrom my university
20:27.51Wormy_awayCyrannian:  Anyway I should be ready to play SE or STO about ten
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20:46.11The_RandomnessHello
20:46.39Wormy_awayhi
20:47.17The_Randomnesstfw color collisions in titanpad
20:49.13Wormy_awayIt definitely needs a bigger colour palette
20:49.27The_RandomnessNo, people just need to choose colors that others aren't using
20:50.07Wormy_There's only 8
20:50.12The_RandomnessWell, yeah
20:50.52Wormy_I think it uses different shades for different users
20:51.13The_RandomnessI don't think so, after looking at the page on my phone
20:52.00Wormy_Might be a browser thing, I see a difference between your colour and Groxkiller's.
20:52.07Wormy_only slightly
20:52.12Wormy_not enough
20:52.49Wormy_Or it might be because he isn't online.
20:52.59The_RandomnessYeah, it's because he isn't online
20:53.36The_RandomnessIf you look at this, there are currently four people using blue https://titanpad.com/ep/pad/view/hK8iu1YqBn/latest
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21:40.53Wormy_hi
21:48.56Liquid_Inkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNmDkZLRgBs
21:52.01Wormy_Well I never
23:33.08Wormy_The_Randomness:  Have you seen my speculations in the biology section or a Super-Earth?
23:33.13The_RandomnessYes
23:33.39The_RandomnessAlthough I will say that having a higher concentration of oxygen is dangerous
23:35.28Wormy_indeed
23:36.13Wormy_Still, mastering it at the societal level would be a matter of knowledge
23:36.49Wormy_Biology could probably evolve exploits an defences, as some plants already do
23:37.30The_RandomnessAlso, you don't necessarily need a more massive planet to have a higher concentration of oxygen
23:37.37Wormy_That's true
23:38.30Wormy_In fact I don't think they correlate, so I'd need a mechanism for higher oxygen concentration
23:42.09Wormy_The Carboniferous for example
23:42.20Wormy_Which seems to be the model climate
23:42.41The_RandomnessYeah
23:44.25The_RandomnessI personally think we should have something that's about the mass of Earth, give or take 5-10%
23:45.31Wormy_Yeah, by Super-Earth I mean only those in a small range
23:45.44The_RandomnessLike, how massive?
23:45.52Wormy_Once you are passed a certain zone plate tectonics would slow down again
23:46.01The_RandomnessYeah, I know
23:46.07Wormy_It seems not much is knbown about what they could be like
23:48.21Wormy_About two Earth masses was deemed habitably by one study http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/readers-respond-to-better-than-earth/
23:48.28Wormy_(habitable
23:50.07The_RandomnessRight
23:53.57The_RandomnessI'll still stand by my opinion though, but I'm not contesting the point that they would be habitable

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