| 00:25.12 | Liquid_Ink | Where is that Wormy? |
| 00:33.32 | Liquid_Ink | Wormy_away what you up to? |
| 00:35.35 | Wormy_away | Watching documentaries |
| 00:35.48 | Wormy_away | Do you need me? |
| 00:37.02 | Liquid_Ink | I just wanted to tell you I solved the mystery of the flies on a space ship |
| 00:37.18 | Liquid_Ink | The ship is built to be self-suffient, with hydroponic gardens. The flies are used to break down organic waste and other gardening processes. |
| 00:40.28 | Wormy_away | I can see that happening |
| 00:40.56 | Wormy_away | They could always be fruit flies rather than disease carrying blow flies |
| 00:41.18 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah |
| 00:41.28 | Liquid_Ink | Except they're willing to nest in human flesh |
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| 00:57.19 | Liquid_Ink | I wasn't paying attention. |
| 00:57.58 | Wormy_away | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.15 | Liquid_Ink | I think anarchists (proper definition, not "chaos") have good ideas at heart, but it would be too difficult to impliment. |
| 01:00.36 | Wormy_away | Agreed |
| 01:00.46 | Liquid_Ink | WHich I feel uncomfortable saying, because that's what capitalists say about socialism, but socialism can, has, and will work. |
| 01:00.59 | Wormy_away | When people think of anarchists, they think of Mad Max |
| 01:01.39 | Wormy_away | I was talking with Ghelae about this, and we discussed that post-scarcity societies might be anarchist |
| 01:01.53 | Wormy_away | in the social sense of the term |
| 01:01.58 | Liquid_Ink | I think society needs administrators |
| 01:02.15 | Liquid_Ink | It needs legislation, it needs law enforcement, it needs a judiciary |
| 01:02.35 | Liquid_Ink | It needs a social net to keep everyone comfortable and alive |
| 01:02.44 | Liquid_Ink | Anarchism would just leave everyone in freefall |
| 01:03.29 | Wormy_away | Definitely, proponents of no government at all scare me a little. If I committed a crime, it would be unfair if some corporation or union treated me differently without a universal definition of justice and human rights. |
| 01:04.51 | Wormy_away | I can (perhaps naively) imagine an anarcho-capitalist world where laws are enforced by corporations |
| 01:05.02 | Wormy_away | each one differently |
| 01:06.45 | Liquid_Ink | I must be going now |
| 01:06.47 | Liquid_Ink | Good evening |
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| 07:18.28 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 07:22.55 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 07:35.23 | Wormy_ | g2g |
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| 17:21.03 | Wormydroid | Ghelae. My lecturer described my dissertation like an acid house party from the 80's with sharks in a tank. Describing our dissertations as houses. |
| 17:21.21 | Ghelae | Is that a good thing? |
| 17:21.49 | Ghelae | I suppose it depends on their experiences with acid house parties. And sharks. |
| 17:21.59 | Wormydroid | He said it is upper first level but still needs a couple more tutors to grade it |
| 17:22.38 | Wormydroid | I want to know what parties he has been to |
| 17:24.49 | Ghelae | Imagine your dissertation as an 80's acid house party with sharks in a tank, and I think that'll give you a good idea. |
| 17:28.16 | Wormydroid | I fid evoke arguments based on epistemology and complexity |
| 17:30.12 | Ghelae | Oh, so the kind of parties where everyone gets utterly stoned and start talking philosophy. :P |
| 17:34.28 | Wormydroid | Definitely |
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| 17:49.48 | Wormydroid | One student got a house with foundarions but no walls, and another student got a house that looked nice from the outside but was a fake side like those you get in soap operas |
| 17:50.15 | Wormydroid | So it could have been a lot worse |
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| 19:51.32 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 19:52.45 | Wormydroid | Ghel I'm at a pub science talk on the LHC and particles beyond the standard model |
| 19:53.18 | Wormydroid | After some beers it will become philosophical |
| 19:56.15 | Ghel | So it's just physics for now? |
| 19:57.11 | Ghel | You could always bring up the topic of "non-empirical theory confirmation" if you think the philosophy is taking too long to surface. If there are non-particle physicists there it might be good for an argument. |
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| 19:58.28 | Wormydroid_ | Then it gets more philosophical by the end |
| 19:58.28 | Wormydroid_ | The usual pattern is natural science first |
| 19:58.39 | Wormydroid_ | During the Q/A |
| 19:59.02 | Wormydroid_ | And second or third pint refill |
| 20:00.26 | Wormydroid_ | I think its starting now, better go |
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| 22:27.34 | Wormydroid | It was an absolutely fantabulous talk |
| 22:28.23 | Wormydroid | I will summarise it in a pastie |
| 22:30.22 | Wormydroid | I had not realised how interesting the electroweak force's relationship with the higgs interaction is |
| 22:31.12 | Wormydroid | Gravity and EM obey the inverse square law, but of course the weak and strong act very diferently |
| 22:34.33 | Wormydroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.19 | Ghel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:47.28 | Wormydroid | It was. Yes |