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06:46.18 | Ghelae | Hello. |
07:29.38 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
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12:31.11 | Liquid_Ink | Hey Ghel, do you have any suggestions for really weird starships for eldritch abominations and their armies to use? |
12:38.01 | Ghelae | Not really. What kinds of wierdness are you looking for? Weird in appearance, or in some other way? |
12:39.34 | Liquid_Ink | Appearance, operation, physics, anything |
12:48.30 | Ghelae | It could use very non-Euclidean geometry. |
12:49.31 | Ghelae | So it causes noticable (and perhaps not always consistent) gravitational lensing effects to anyone looking at it; it's bigger on the inside and the corridors connect to each other in normally impossible ways, etc. |
13:22.24 | Wormy_ | I would have thought eldritchness isn't compatible with physics. |
13:54.13 | Ghelae | If you ultimately define eldritchness as things that are impossible, then no, it isn't possible. |
13:55.18 | Ghelae | But I think what's more important is what humans cconsider to be impossible; what things could even cause distress at their seeming impossibility. |
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15:14.43 | Wormy_away | Ghelae: Well in that definition, perhaps there is such a thing as eldritch mathematics |
15:15.23 | Wormy_away | Given that ideas of incompleteness, infinity, recursion and paradox has sent some insane |
15:15.48 | Ghelae | I suppose it could well be viewed in that way. |
15:15.53 | Wormy_away | Arguably there was more to it than that, like peer pressure etc. |
15:16.38 | Wormy_away | A whole documentary about it here http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdoe8u_dangerous-knowledge-1-5_shortfilms |
15:16.43 | Ghelae | Still, maths is such a huge field that most mathematics probably look eldritch even to most mathematicians. |
15:16.49 | Wormy_away | indeed |
15:17.21 | Wormy_away | I'm fascinated by the ones that seem to have no physical reality, at least not known. |
15:20.05 | Ghelae | Pure mathematics is often more comparable to art than science. |
15:20.25 | drom | Yes. |
15:20.46 | drom | Notes of pure mathematics is beautiful. |
15:20.50 | drom | I'd frame one if I found one. |
15:21.07 | Wormy_away | Some mathematicians follow beauty and elegance |
15:22.52 | Wormy_away | I see psychological connections between mathematicians and psychonauts. People in both take their work to such a personal level they end up having visions and so on. And Nikolai Tesla's visions remind of Gopi Krishna's, a yogi who wrote books on kundalini |
15:23.24 | Wormy_away | All I'm attributing here is a psychological relationship at least |
15:24.50 | Wormy_away | I think it was Srinivasa Ramanujan who said that his mathematics came to him in dreams |
15:25.17 | Wormy_away | And curiously Roger Penrose writes of having mathematical ideas conveyed to him in visual flashes |
15:26.15 | Wormy_away | I think when someone is hard at work with mental tasks, a subconscious part of their brain doesn't switch off and keeps running, and those things become avilable to them in sleep |
15:32.27 | Wormy_away | The film Pi plays with this |
15:32.51 | Wormy_away | The character is as rational as you can get, but the film as mystical overtones |
15:33.54 | Wormy_away | Eventually the character starts believing in a universal order, and his mentor calls him a numerologist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNOQUPmgbnY |
15:34.26 | Wormy_away | Pretty good rejection to synchronicity tbh |
15:40.26 | Ghelae | Yes. |
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20:36.15 | Cyrannian | I might play a bit of the Sims |
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