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| 12:28.38 | Liquid_Ink | I guess I'll just have to annoy you with Garak in a flower crown |
| 12:28.38 | Liquid_Ink | http://24.media.tumblr.com/993871f8bfc2f4cc669368379aa10940/tumblr_muvkxgaswM1sec83co1_1280.jpg |
| 12:29.03 | Ghelae | Beautiful. |
| 12:29.56 | Liquid_Ink | http://liquidink21.tumblr.com/post/62047429249/because Do you think this is a legitimate answer to all my friends demanding to know why I won't get facebook? |
| 12:30.47 | Ghelae | Legitimate? Yes. |
| 12:31.32 | Ghelae | Semantically and logcally valid? No. |
| 12:31.59 | Ghelae | But since you only asked me about the first one, I assume the answer to the second is irrelevant. |
| 12:32.10 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah |
| 12:32.37 | Liquid_Ink | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131019155003/spore/images/f/fc/ImperialFlag.png Why is the Cyrannian Empire now putting on the Reich? |
| 12:33.39 | Ghelae | Maybe they just weren't Nazi enough before. |
| 12:35.37 | Liquid_Ink | Now all they need is armbands |
| 12:35.42 | Liquid_Ink | And runes on their collars |
| 12:36.01 | Liquid_Ink | And a really bad moustace on Anteddy |
| 12:36.11 | Liquid_Ink | And an ethnic group to blame all their troubles on. |
| 12:36.51 | Ghelae | I think their scapegoat ethnic group of choice is "non-Cyrannian". |
| 12:37.17 | Liquid_Ink | True |
| 12:37.25 | Liquid_Ink | But they seem fine with the Quadrants |
| 12:38.16 | Ghelae | "Cyrannian" can be stretched to refer to entire Cyrannia Cluste. |
| 12:38.20 | Ghelae | Cluster* |
| 12:38.39 | Liquid_Ink | True |
| 12:39.51 | Liquid_Ink | I remembered what I wanted to ask you, but I also remembered that I found me own answer. |
| 12:39.53 | Liquid_Ink | *my |
| 12:41.47 | Ghelae | Okay. What was it? |
| 12:42.21 | Liquid_Ink | What is entropy |
| 12:42.39 | Liquid_Ink | I figured that it was the energy in a closed system that cannot be used for work |
| 12:43.28 | Liquid_Ink | Also: "The tendency of a system that is left to itself to descend into chaos." |
| 12:45.15 | Ghelae | Not exactly, but similar, I suppose. |
| 12:46.21 | Liquid_Ink | WHich one? |
| 12:46.51 | Ghelae | In thermodynamics, it's defined with respect to heat energy (q) and temperature (T) as dS = dq/T, or if you want to use it to calculate the energy, dq = T dS. |
| 12:47.33 | Ghelae | To use a hydraulic/electric analogy, temperature is like the pressure of water or the electric potential, while entropy is like the volume of water or the electric charge. |
| 12:48.24 | Liquid_Ink | I think I'll use my second definition more in conversation with my IRL friends |
| 12:49.29 | Ghelae | Your second definition resembles the second law of thermodynamics, which is (to use one of many ways of stating it) "the entropy of any closed system tends to increase". |
| 12:49.48 | Ghelae | So entropy itself *is* the disorder, not the tendency to become disordered. |
| 12:51.15 | Liquid_Ink | Oh |
| 12:51.22 | Liquid_Ink | THat makes it better |
| 12:51.27 | Liquid_Ink | And more usable |
| 12:52.51 | Ghelae | In statistical mechanics, entropy is most generally defined as -k x sum[p x ln(p)], where k is the Boltzmann constant, and the bit in the sum is the probability of a particle being in a particular state multiplied by the natural log of said probability. |
| 12:53.06 | Liquid_Ink | I also need to use the word "whom" much more. |
| 12:53.20 | Liquid_Ink | Because it'll make me sounds sophisticated |
| 12:53.23 | Ghelae | In the equilibrium case, it's much more simply defined as k x ln(W), where W is the total number of possible states. |
| 12:53.34 | Ghelae | And yes. "Whom" is a very sophisticated word. |
| 12:53.43 | Ghelae | As long as you use it properly. |
| 12:54.05 | Ghelae | And remember that it's pronounced "hoom", not "wom". |
| 12:54.19 | Liquid_Ink | Of course |
| 12:56.39 | Liquid_Ink | I also know how to use "whom" properly, but I'm not sure I'll be able to remember it when conversing. |
| 12:56.47 | Liquid_Ink | I'll have to pre-plan conversations. |
| 12:56.58 | Ghelae | Practice. |
| 12:57.05 | Liquid_Ink | Of course |
| 12:58.43 | Ghelae | If you're in a rush and not sure which one to go for, just use "who". Chances are, in another century's time or so, it'll be as extinct as "thou", "thee" and "ye". |
| 12:59.27 | Liquid_Ink | I knwo |
| 13:00.37 | Liquid_Ink | One can go through life not every using "whom" and 99% of people won't notice |
| 13:01.10 | Ghelae | I don't know how the thou/thee/ye->you thing could have happened. Using "you" as our only second-person pronoun is like replacing "I", "me" and "we" with "us". |
| 13:02.45 | Liquid_Ink | ...magic? |
| 13:03.46 | Ghelae | Most likely. |
| 13:04.04 | Ghelae | There was plenty of magic going around back in the 17th and 18th centuries. |
| 13:08.09 | Liquid_Ink | http://i.imgur.com/oAqtH7k.png What do you think of my Earthly Mirror Universe? |
| 13:08.18 | Liquid_Ink | FOr a story unrelated to Sporewiki |
| 13:10.17 | Ghelae | Where colonialist imperialism never ended? |
| 13:10.36 | Liquid_Ink | Yes |
| 13:10.41 | Liquid_Ink | And began in a different way too |
| 13:11.08 | Liquid_Ink | It's a *Parallel* Universe, not a divergent one. |
| 13:11.24 | Liquid_Ink | It's similar, but different, and never really split off from the prime one. |
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| 13:11.37 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 13:11.57 | Liquid_Ink | Hey Waptor |
| 13:12.33 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
| 13:12.39 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
| 13:12.39 | Ghelae | So what are the different empires? I guess red = British, green = Russian, and orange = Japanese. |
| 13:12.45 | Cyrannian | Fancy seeing you here Ghelae. |
| 13:13.02 | Ghelae | Yeah. I decided to come by and visit again. |
| 13:13.05 | Cyrannian | And interesting proposal about Northern Ireland from the other day, Liquid. |
| 13:13.25 | Liquid_Ink | Thank you. |
| 13:13.32 | Liquid_Ink | The same thing happened with Kashmir |
| 13:16.09 | Cyrannian | I think the current arrangement is working. Can't say that I like either communities up there though. |
| 13:16.43 | Liquid_Ink | How do you feel about the Cyprus dispute? |
| 13:19.09 | Cyrannian | I don't really have an opinion on it. |
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| 13:46.23 | Liquid_Ink | Didn't mean to quite |
| 13:46.25 | Liquid_Ink | *quit |
| 13:46.41 | Liquid_Ink | Accidently clicked the Xs when trying to get to both channels |
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| 20:08.41 | Cyrannian_ | ~seen Cyrannian |
| 20:08.43 | infobot | cyrannian <562eae36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.46.174.54> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 11m 15s ago, saying: 'Speaking of Nex, if you are a fan of Xeranbha, you'll like the story after the Nosiso Uprising...'. |
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