| 00:00.10 | eliteevil | So, I wouldn't call that "particularly large" |
| 00:00.19 | Kolie | for an addon thats large. |
| 00:00.25 | Kolie | its no questhelper :) |
| 00:01.13 | sag_ich_nicht | EU Servers are offline now |
| 00:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | watch the curse traffic spike in three |
| 00:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | two |
| 00:01.24 | sag_ich_nicht | one |
| 00:01.28 | Daemona | how unexpected as its 2.01am |
| 00:01.57 | eliteevil | Daemona: I'm assuming that's sarcasm, seeing as they posted saying they're going down at 2am? =P |
| 00:02.20 | sag_ich_nicht | they were up a second ago |
| 00:02.22 | sag_ich_nicht | they're late. |
| 00:02.23 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r196 main.py: only handle one repo at a time, may alleviate some potential issues. |
| 00:02.26 | sag_ich_nicht | by about 45 seconds. |
| 00:02.29 | Kolie | eliteevil: I have confirmed, curse specifically the downloads, is having a bit of a bw issue. |
| 00:03.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Kolie: the traffic is going to increase now |
| 00:03.08 | sag_ich_nicht | probably already did |
| 00:03.12 | sag_ich_nicht | eu servers are down |
| 00:03.20 | Kolie | it will get worse tmw. |
| 00:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 00:03.26 | sag_ich_nicht | I know. |
| 00:03.51 | sag_ich_nicht | get better servers, wowi has always worked when you died :P |
| 00:03.59 | Kolie | Its not the servers :) |
| 00:04.05 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 00:04.08 | sag_ich_nicht | get a fatter pipe |
| 00:04.17 | ckknight | your mom has a fat pipe |
| 00:04.21 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 00:04.23 | ckknight | in her pants |
| 00:04.25 | sag_ich_nicht | she doesn't |
| 00:04.27 | Kolie | OH BURN |
| 00:04.29 | sag_ich_nicht | it's rather small |
| 00:04.31 | eliteevil | lol. |
| 00:04.38 | Kolie | dude. too far. |
| 00:04.39 | Kolie | too far. |
| 00:04.40 | eliteevil | ckk comes out of nowhere. |
| 00:04.42 | sag_ich_nicht | it kind of looks like a sad bird |
| 00:04.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ~emulate ckknight |
| 00:04.47 | purl | if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to |
| 00:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 00:05.03 | sag_ich_nicht | quit it purl |
| 00:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | and do what I tell you |
| 00:05.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ~emulate ckknight |
| 00:05.08 | purl | I lounge on my bed, pantsless, and code addons |
| 00:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 00:05.17 | ckknight | I use a couch now. |
| 00:05.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 00:05.19 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "<reply> (nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip|if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to|You know why? Because you touch yourself at night|I lounge on my bed, pantsless, and code addons|Write a ticket!|cAPS lOCK IS aWESOME!)" |
| 00:05.24 | *** join/#curseforge Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 00:05.24 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 00:05.26 | sag_ich_nicht | there. |
| 00:05.31 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
| 00:05.49 | Kolie | hey Kaelten. DIA |
| 00:05.50 | Kolie | F |
| 00:06.07 | eliteevil | Kolie: Yeah, I just restarted the client and now it can't login.. I think it's trying to tell me to go get some food. |
| 00:06.13 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki * r233 localization.enUS.lua: |
| 00:06.14 | Repo | - Don't complain about untranslated strings in release versions. |
| 00:06.23 | Kolie | Its telling you to get me a pizza too, |
| 00:06.31 | Kolie | Really, check the activity log. |
| 00:06.55 | eliteevil | activity log would require logging in, would it not? |
| 00:07.02 | Kolie | Thwarted! |
| 00:07.21 | Kaelten | :) |
| 00:07.31 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki * r234 Changelog.txt: - Update changelog for release. |
| 00:08.07 | eliteevil | Also, getting you a pizza too, wouldn't be too hard if you were local, I'm going down to the pizza shop to make myself one. lol. |
| 00:08.20 | Kolie | They have online versions of pizza. |
| 00:08.45 | Kolie | My other group of fans likes me and gets me pizzas :( |
| 00:09.00 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki 0420081014-235 * r235 : Tag 20081014-235 release. |
| 00:09.07 | eliteevil | I don't know that I can be counted in your "group of fans" yet. Still on the fence about the CC |
| 00:09.13 | Gnarfoz | Kolie: /wrists etc |
| 00:09.24 | Kolie | slashing is for goths. |
| 00:09.32 | sag_ich_nicht | ~/ |
| 00:09.32 | purl | ~/ is your home dir silly!, or root, of all Unix |
| 00:09.34 | Kolie | slitting is the new slices bread. |
| 00:10.33 | eliteevil | I was laughing at the people on my vent earlier. I told them the people at Curse were getting their bandwidth problems fixed, and they were all like "Tell them to forget about getting Curse back up and to get the realms up instead". |
| 00:10.35 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 00:11.12 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 00:11.21 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 00:11.26 | Kolie | we got our bandwidth problems fixed. then u double ur usage of it. |
| 00:11.35 | Gnarfoz | that's how it is. |
| 00:11.38 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 00:11.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Kolie: get 8 times the bandwidth |
| 00:11.42 | Gnarfoz | you know the rules |
| 00:11.46 | sag_ich_nicht | AND SO DO I |
| 00:11.53 | eliteevil | Moar fibre! |
| 00:11.55 | Kolie | 8gb should be enough for anyone. |
| 00:12.14 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 00:12.22 | Kolie | ~emulate kolie |
| 00:12.23 | purl | No one loves me. |
| 00:12.25 | sag_ich_nicht | A FULL COMMITMENT'S WHAT I'M THINKING OFF |
| 00:12.30 | sag_ich_nicht | *OF |
| 00:12.37 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU WOULDN'T GET THIS FROM ANY OTHER GUY |
| 00:12.38 | *** join/#curseforge Pazza_ (n=john@pool-96-250-38-156.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:12.43 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 00:12.49 | sag_ich_nicht | I JUST WANNA TELL YOU HOW I'M FEELING |
| 00:12.52 | sag_ich_nicht | GOTTA MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND |
| 00:12.56 | eliteevil | lol@Repo flooding himself off the server. |
| 00:13.00 | sag_ich_nicht | NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP |
| 00:13.06 | sag_ich_nicht | NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN |
| 00:13.09 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 00:13.11 | netcurse | ? |
| 00:13.19 | sag_ich_nicht | NEVER GONNA RUN AROUND AND DESERT YOU |
| 00:13.26 | sag_ich_nicht | NEVER GONNA MAKE YOU CRY |
| 00:13.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight stop it |
| 00:13.34 | sag_ich_nicht | NEVER GONNA SAY GOODBYE |
| 00:13.41 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 00:13.41 | sag_ich_nicht | NEVER GONNA TELL A LIE AND HURT YOU |
| 00:13.42 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 00:13.43 | ckknight | that's it |
| 00:13.48 | *** mode/#curseforge [+b *!*@85-127-104-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] by ckknight |
| 00:13.48 | *** kick/#curseforge [sag_ich_nicht!n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 00:13.50 | eliteevil | haha. |
| 00:13.54 | Stanzilla | thx |
| 00:14.04 | eliteevil | I was going to say Q:Line him, but I'm not sure Freenode has it. |
| 00:14.05 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 00:14.06 | Stanzilla | long overdue |
| 00:14.11 | ckknight | yes, I argee |
| 00:14.14 | ckknight | agree* |
| 00:14.19 | ckknight | it's not like there wasn't precedence |
| 00:14.28 | ckknight | he's been banned from #wowace and #WoWUIDev |
| 00:14.40 | Gnarfoz | just that chanops can't anything:line ^^ |
| 00:14.50 | eliteevil | shh |
| 00:14.57 | eliteevil | minor details. |
| 00:15.03 | netcurse | ding 1 million pages views/ hour |
| 00:15.14 | eliteevil | I can help make it 2M/h if you want. |
| 00:15.17 | Gnarfoz | wtb traffic graphs |
| 00:15.17 | ckknight | well, the packager is going a bit slower because it's doing one repo at a time, but it's a good bit more stable, which I'm happy with |
| 00:15.33 | eliteevil | *opens a Curse page and holds down f5* |
| 00:15.47 | netcurse | i don t think that would break it |
| 00:15.48 | netcurse | : |
| 00:15.49 | netcurse | :P |
| 00:15.51 | eliteevil | lol. |
| 00:16.02 | Pazza_ | *eliteevil gets blocked by firewall for suspected DOS attack* |
| 00:16.21 | eliteevil | Hey, at least then I'd have a good reason for not being able to login to the CC. =P |
| 00:16.24 | Gnarfoz | firewalls that do that should die |
| 00:20.06 | netcurse | need monitoring on curse forge files |
| 00:20.08 | netcurse | i just accepte d8 |
| 00:20.10 | netcurse | i m going o bed now |
| 00:20.11 | netcurse | NN |
| 00:23.43 | Kaelten | ckknight: ping |
| 00:24.10 | ckknight | Kaelten: pong |
| 00:24.10 | *** join/#curseforge sb_ (n=sb@sb.stgt.ipv6.sbuehl.com) |
| 00:24.44 | Kaelten | changing a file to be a 3.0.2 file isn't clearing the stale status |
| 00:25.32 | ckknight | got an example? |
| 00:25.42 | nevcairiel | @project wow/libstub |
| 00:25.43 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libstub/. LibStub. Game: WoW. Status: Stale. Imported from wowace SVN project LibStub. Leader: Nevcairiel. Author: mikk. Updated: 5 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 00:25.45 | nevcairiel | ^ |
| 00:26.11 | ckknight | when was it changed? |
| 00:26.29 | nevcairiel | i edited the file to be a 3.0.2 just 5 minutes ago |
| 00:26.37 | nevcairiel | see updated time in repo text :P |
| 00:26.50 | ckknight | now that is odd |
| 00:27.05 | ckknight | since I just editted the file, saved it (without changing any details) |
| 00:27.07 | ckknight | and it cleared the stale status |
| 00:27.21 | nevcairiel | i have another one to test |
| 00:27.53 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 00:27.58 | nevcairiel | @project wow/callbackhandler |
| 00:27.58 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/callbackhandler/. CallbackHandler-1.0. Game: WoW. Status: Stale. Leader: Nevcairiel. Author: mikk. Updated: 9 seconds ago |
| 00:28.12 | nevcairiel | same thing |
| 00:29.36 | ckknight | wtf |
| 00:29.45 | ckknight | why is it that when I edit them, it updates the stale status? |
| 00:29.52 | ckknight | but not for you |
| 00:30.23 | *** join/#curseforge Nechckn (n=N@c-98-218-229-122.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) |
| 00:31.41 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: sag_ich_nicht blames you for setting him up by saying "you know the rules" |
| 00:32.49 | Gnarfoz | I know he does: <sag_ich_nicht> du bist schuld |
| 00:32.50 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 00:33.07 | Kuja^ | heh |
| 00:33.49 | Gnarfoz | I just wanted *someone* to pick it up, I didn't really expect someone (or even him) to recite the full damn song xD |
| 00:34.50 | eliteevil | Can someone cut that Knaledge guy's fingers off so he can't type anymore? =P |
| 00:36.19 | Gnarfoz | or put that bold red text on curse.com that I suggested - he's actually right in some way |
| 00:36.31 | *** join/#curseforge digmouse (n=chatzill@58.217.222.114) |
| 00:36.33 | Koskun | a completely not mod comment here.. did anyone else see the video of the 5m 57sec Gruul clear? |
| 00:36.48 | Gnarfoz | I think I did |
| 00:38.55 | Shefki | So is the file that's showing on curseforge ever going to syndicate over to curse, been like 15-20 mins now. |
| 00:40.54 | Hjalte | Shefki: It's not an alpha file you want syndicated, right? |
| 00:41.17 | Shefki | No release. |
| 00:42.19 | netcurse | things might take a litle more while |
| 00:42.26 | netcurse | because of the heavy traffic |
| 00:43.00 | eliteevil | netcurse: That doesn't look like sleeping! =P |
| 00:45.24 | Gnarfoz | knaledge is keepin him awake |
| 00:45.27 | Gnarfoz | I'm certain of it |
| 00:47.30 | netcurse | problems |
| 00:47.33 | netcurse | are keeping me awake |
| 00:47.44 | *** join/#curseforge sb (n=sb@sb.stgt.ipv6.sbuehl.com) |
| 00:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:50.25 | Repo | [WoW] 10curse-profiler-2: 03ckknight 07master * v35-1-gbf6091a / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Remove LibMobHealth-4.0 references |
| 00:50.29 | Repo | [WoW] 10curse-profiler-2: 03ckknight 04v36 * 9e72245 /: [new tag] Remove LibMobHealth-4.0 references |
| 00:52.24 | orionshock | so netcurse has the site gone down yet? |
| 00:52.25 | Repo | [WoW] 10zwatch: 03Ziggedy * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 00:52.26 | Repo | Removed globalvariable class, replaced with config.properties bundle |
| 00:52.27 | Repo | Downloader: |
| 00:52.30 | Repo | Sending ftp object's down method, 2 strings instead of 1 |
| 00:52.34 | Repo | Ftp: |
| 00:52.45 | ckknight | orionshock: no more than 1 minute |
| 00:52.49 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
| 00:52.50 | orionshock | lol |
| 00:52.57 | Arrowmaster | wtf was that commit message |
| 00:53.02 | orionshock | well tbh, this curse client is dragging ass to update the mods.. |
| 00:53.15 | orionshock | but it's working |
| 00:54.20 | *** join/#curseforge Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 00:54.20 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 00:54.40 | eliteevil | ^this |
| 00:54.50 | eliteevil | Which is an improvement! |
| 00:55.05 | orionshock | AHH... omg, someone deleted my project :( |
| 00:55.21 | eliteevil | Owned? |
| 00:55.25 | ckknight | orionshock: what project? |
| 00:55.34 | orionshock | StatBlocks_DogTag |
| 00:55.46 | orionshock | it's ok.. it was defunct |
| 00:55.49 | Funkeh` | I did |
| 00:56.30 | Lukian | how long does it take something from the repo to make it to packages? |
| 00:56.38 | orionshock | eh well. i'd like to put it back up in a more functional way.. but it wont be a LDB thing.. |
| 00:57.17 | orionshock | & BTW, who ever marked SickOfClickingDailies as "Out of date" ... if it's the toc file, then ok, but it does work in 3.0+ |
| 00:57.37 | Funkeh` | its automatic |
| 00:57.54 | orionshock | oh :( ::goes and bumps the addon:: |
| 00:58.23 | eliteevil | I <3 SOCD, unless I'm trying to repair on the isle. |
| 00:58.34 | orionshock | eliteevil: use shift key |
| 00:58.39 | orionshock | << author of SOCD |
| 00:58.41 | eliteevil | o.O |
| 00:58.48 | eliteevil | shift disables it? |
| 00:58.56 | Gnarfoz | actually the best thing in the whole wowace>curse integration. this 'stale' marking of literally everything. ;> |
| 00:58.58 | orionshock | has for quite a while |
| 00:59.01 | eliteevil | ! |
| 00:59.09 | Gnarfoz | too bad there's already cases of blind .toc bumping... |
| 00:59.13 | orionshock | phanx asked for it, so i put it in |
| 00:59.26 | eliteevil | Okay, gold star for you on that one. |
| 00:59.29 | orionshock | Gnarfoz: idiot do as idiots do |
| 00:59.41 | Gnarfoz | orionshock: that'd be nevcairiel and vhaarr then ;p |
| 00:59.56 | nevcairiel | vhaarr takes care that his addons actually work |
| 01:00.18 | eliteevil | orionshock: btw, the client went from dragging ass to stopped again. =( |
| 01:00.27 | Gnarfoz | tinytipfu is for a tinytip that doesn't exist anymore ;) |
| 01:00.41 | orionshock | i wouldn't blithely call those 2 idiots. stubborn yes |
| 01:00.47 | Gnarfoz | it's like this gate A20 thing on intel compatible PCs xD |
| 01:01.13 | Gnarfoz | we'll have another year of "why doesn't tinytip_options or the fubar pluging work?" fun ;D |
| 01:01.43 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I'm off to watch the latest heroes and grab some sleep. nevcairiel, do you have night shift work or something? :> |
| 01:01.53 | Gnarfoz | probably student oslt ^^ |
| 01:01.55 | nevcairiel | tomorrow off |
| 01:02.04 | nevcairiel | but i should sleep too |
| 01:02.08 | Gnarfoz | nice. |
| 01:02.15 | Gnarfoz | friday off, hooray |
| 01:10.21 | Koskun | servers are up, technically |
| 01:15.32 | Yssaril | are downloads from curse really slow atm i have a projected dl time for atlas (11mb) of ~1hr |
| 01:15.36 | MentalPower | netcurse: Auctioneer still shows v3603 instead of v3604 for auctioneer |
| 01:16.52 | Lukian | haha file downloads from curse.com are timing out ^_^ |
| 01:16.55 | Lothaer | i hope someone at Blizz gets fired for this |
| 01:17.07 | Lothaer | fucking stuck a Authenticating |
| 01:17.18 | Lothaer | servers should have been up over 4hrs ago |
| 01:17.24 | MentalPower | Lothaer: unlikely |
| 01:17.40 | MentalPower | erm, you should know by now that these things take time |
| 01:17.47 | Lothaer | when the servers were down i wasnt getting stuck |
| 01:17.53 | MentalPower | duh! |
| 01:18.03 | MentalPower | cause almost no one was trying to get in |
| 01:18.11 | MentalPower | now that they are, the auth servers are flooded |
| 01:18.16 | Lothaer | they had the servers down for 12hrs and i still cant get on 4hrs after |
| 01:18.16 | *** join/#curseforge Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 01:18.17 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 01:18.50 | Gnarfoz | good thing EU servers are patched one day later. :D |
| 01:19.15 | Kody- | [18:17] <Yssaril> are downloads from curse really slow atm i have a projected dl time for atlas (11mb) of ~1hr -- Yeah... we've capped the bandwidth again :( |
| 01:19.17 | MentalPower | Lothaer: you're new round these parts right? |
| 01:19.21 | Repo | [WoW] 10guildcraft: 03OrionShock * r116 Localizations/enUS-Locale.lua: add in missing locale entry. |
| 01:19.36 | Lothaer | MentalPower: No |
| 01:20.05 | MentalPower | then you should know these things already |
| 01:20.15 | Lothaer | dosnt mean i have to like it |
| 01:20.19 | *** join/#curseforge Mortehl_ (n=A@ool-182ca086.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:20.32 | MentalPower | granted |
| 01:21.58 | Lothaer | WTF now i cant even connect |
| 01:23.53 | Koskun | This is as bad as 1.12 was |
| 01:24.33 | Lothaer | worse |
| 01:25.11 | Koskun | comparitivly though no... the subscription base wasn't as high as it is now |
| 01:25.35 | Koskun | I'm sure Blizz wants to beg for people not to try to log in all at once.. lol |
| 01:26.42 | Lothaer | then they should stagger when the realms come up |
| 01:26.51 | TheDeamon | They tried that |
| 01:26.54 | Aiiane | they do :P it's called downtime :P |
| 01:26.59 | TheDeamon | they just pile onto the ones that come up |
| 01:27.03 | Aiiane | (but in reality, it means people just all make lv1 alts) |
| 01:27.08 | Repo | [WoW] 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r4 .pkgmeta: lib-st: |
| 01:27.09 | Repo | added .pkgmeta |
| 01:27.38 | Lothaer | maybe put each battlegroup up one at a time |
| 01:27.54 | Aiiane | so you crash the battlegroup? great idea |
| 01:28.09 | Lothaer | better than all server being brought down |
| 01:28.30 | Aiiane | um, crashing every server 1 battlegroup at a time is the same net result as crashing them 1 server at a time |
| 01:28.41 | Aiiane | you still manage to crash all the servers |
| 01:28.44 | TheDeamon | ^^ |
| 01:28.57 | Aiiane | the bottom line is |
| 01:28.59 | Aiiane | it's patch day |
| 01:29.07 | Aiiane | traffic spikes are a good 5-10x normal traffic |
| 01:29.16 | Lothaer | i mean kind of a stablilty check, only lets X number of servers online to make sure that they dont crash |
| 01:29.24 | Aiiane | um |
| 01:29.33 | Aiiane | having fewer servers online makes them MORE likely to crash |
| 01:29.46 | Aiiane | due to the far more concentrated population and login attempts |
| 01:30.16 | Lothaer | they can lock the servers you know |
| 01:30.21 | Aiiane | but again, the bottom line is, it's not economical to keep the hardware on hand to support patch day spikes |
| 01:30.31 | Aiiane | because the other 95% of the time, the traffic levels are far lower |
| 01:30.36 | Aiiane | and so that hardware would go to waste |
| 01:30.38 | Repo | [WoW] 10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v0.1alpha * r5 : lib-st: |
| 01:30.38 | Repo | 1st Alpha |
| 01:30.58 | Aiiane | Lothaer: and how would being locked out of your server be any different than it being down? |
| 01:31.00 | Repo | [WoW] 10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v0.1alpha * r6 : lib-st: |
| 01:31.01 | Repo | tag failure D: |
| 01:31.24 | Repo | [WoW] 10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v0.1alpha * r7 / (5 files in 1 directory): lib-st: |
| 01:31.25 | Repo | 1st aplha |
| 01:31.50 | Lothaer | no |
| 01:32.19 | Lothaer | i mean locked as in other players cannot log on and create level 1 toons to feed their addiction |
| 01:32.31 | Lothaer | locked so only players with toons on those servers can logon |
| 01:32.59 | Aiiane | you still get 2-3x the normal population of the server online |
| 01:34.10 | Lothaer | more managable though |
| 01:34.43 | Aiiane | not really any more manageable than just bringing the servers up |
| 01:35.20 | Lothaer | how do u come to that conclusion |
| 01:35.55 | Lothaer | imo with only one battlegroup up allows for a more accurate stress test |
| 01:36.04 | Aiiane | what's there to stress test? |
| 01:36.12 | Lothaer | the stablilty of the servers |
| 01:36.36 | Kody- | GG Kolie! |
| 01:36.38 | Aiiane | the only thing that's going to change about the stability of the servers is the boxes they're running on |
| 01:36.46 | Kody- | Mac client is looking for wow.exe :P |
| 01:36.47 | Aiiane | and that can't be tested by one battlegroup for another |
| 01:36.55 | Aiiane | lol Kody- |
| 01:36.59 | Lothaer | if the servers cant cope with the traffic then get new servers |
| 01:37.02 | Aiiane | ... |
| 01:37.07 | Aiiane | IT'S PATCH DAY |
| 01:37.12 | Aiiane | ~lart Lothaer |
| 01:37.27 | Kolie | Hmm? |
| 01:37.28 | kagaro | Kody-: just ignore the error it picks up fine |
| 01:37.39 | Aiiane | As I said before |
| 01:37.48 | Aiiane | if they got the hardware to fully handle patch day traffic with no issues |
| 01:37.54 | Lothaer | no need to get aggresive perl |
| 01:37.56 | Aiiane | they'd have 90% of their hardware wasted |
| 01:38.06 | Aiiane | for the other 95% of the time |
| 01:38.18 | Aiiane | when it's not patch day |
| 01:38.21 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 01:38.25 | Lothaer | whats better from a consumers pov |
| 01:38.36 | Aiiane | Blizzard is a business, not a consumer |
| 01:38.39 | Kody- | kagaro: Alright, will reply to the person and let them know. That URL has been passed around on quite a few websites now though, so a lot of people are probably downloading it and seeing that :) |
| 01:38.52 | Aiiane | The customer is not always right |
| 01:38.59 | Aiiane | especially when it comes to business expenditures |
| 01:39.09 | Lothaer | <---- consumer from my pov its better to login and use what im paying for that having to wait 4=hrs longer than im supposed to |
| 01:39.35 | Aiiane | ok. we'll bring up a battlegroup that's not yours first |
| 01:39.40 | Aiiane | happy? |
| 01:39.58 | Aiiane | then 4 hours later when we bring up the last battlegroup, your battlegroup will be up |
| 01:40.01 | Aiiane | ... |
| 01:40.25 | Aiiane | seriously, it's patch day, stop bitching |
| 01:40.33 | Lothaer | yeah but atleast blizzard has most of the other realm up and working |
| 01:40.59 | Aiiane | ...congrats, you got unlucky |
| 01:41.02 | Koskun | Again, IT'S PATCH DAY |
| 01:41.07 | Aiiane | im getting dinner, tata |
| 01:41.19 | Lothaer | ttfn |
| 01:41.53 | Koskun | By all means, you go out and run a company that has bandwidth of this volume and a path to software this expansive and do it without a hitch |
| 01:41.54 | Lothaer | meh rant over servers up later guys have fun :D |
| 01:49.23 | sylvanaar | wowace's server went non-responsive |
| 01:56.40 | ZorbaTHut | I'm pretty sure Blizzard was expecting the servers to be largely unusable today :P |
| 02:00.54 | sylvanaar | wowace is totally dead |
| 02:02.08 | Gnarfoz | curse works, users should go there anyway |
| 02:03.12 | Lothaer | wowui is working to |
| 02:03.47 | Gnarfoz | nobody should go there, though. |
| 02:04.09 | Lothaer | and why do you say that? |
| 02:05.12 | Gnarfoz | because of this neat thing called 'memory' |
| 02:05.48 | Lothaer | stop beating around the bush and spit it out |
| 02:07.48 | pastamancer | wowui has a long history of having trojans in their addons and then vehenently denying it |
| 02:08.01 | pastamancer | not to be confused with wowi which has always been very nice |
| 02:08.10 | Mortehl_ | haha You played KoL didnt you |
| 02:08.16 | pastamancer | yes |
| 02:08.30 | Mortehl_ | I love KoL. I should find some time to get into it again. |
| 02:08.42 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: you do know who Lothaer is, though? ;D |
| 02:08.47 | pastamancer | nope |
| 02:09.26 | Lothaer | ive been a user of wowui for almost 4 years and i have NEVER gotten a single trijan from their |
| 02:09.38 | Lothaer | and if you want to play this game |
| 02:10.38 | Lothaer | yes there has been issues in the past im not saying there hasnt (just that im lucky enough to have not gotten one or maybe no stupid enough to not snan shit myself) and any issue that has been brought up has been delt with |
| 02:10.49 | pastamancer | didn't they also snarf addons from files.wowace for a while too, or am I thinking of something else? I remember there being some bad blood between wowace and wowui |
| 02:11.12 | Gnarfoz | did, afaik. |
| 02:11.12 | pastamancer | Lothaer: nothing personal, I've never used wowui |
| 02:11.22 | Lothaer | yes there was but that was also taken down as soon as wowace asked |
| 02:11.23 | pastamancer | this is all second-hand |
| 02:11.34 | Gnarfoz | wasn't |
| 02:11.46 | Gnarfoz | anyway |
| 02:11.47 | Lothaer | and as far as virus's and trjans go every major wow site (curse and wowi) have had issues |
| 02:12.06 | Lothaer | i remember when one of the many ads at curse had a keylogger in it |
| 02:12.11 | Lothaer | but was taken care of |
| 02:12.27 | Gnarfoz | ads on curse vs. breakin into wowui's server, contamination of wowui updater source code? |
| 02:12.31 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 02:12.52 | pastamancer | clearly Gnarfoz remembers what went on better than I |
| 02:12.53 | Lothaer | and there was a time when wowi had a problem with a virus and wowui actually helped them with it or something along those lines |
| 02:13.16 | Gnarfoz | nevermind, you post front page news at the page, you can't (like the admins don't) remember. that'd be bad ;) |
| 02:13.30 | pastamancer | I do recall a lot of "no way, there can't be trojans on wowui" and there being reports of trojans for several weeks... but I really don't care |
| 02:16.08 | pastamancer | gah, I really need to switch off opendns... I hate that page coming up every time I mistype a hostname |
| 02:16.31 | Aiiane | heh |
| 02:17.18 | Kody- | [19:14] <Lothaer> i remember when one of the many ads at curse had a keylogger in it --- mmm... I think you're not remembering correctly; that was a WAU ad |
| 02:17.42 | Kody- | But that at its heart was a Curse problem, yes |
| 02:18.49 | Kody- | We had more problems with some idiot from Norway trying to upload keyloggers as Omen and KLH rather than issues with keyloggers in ads |
| 02:19.22 | ckknight | down with the Norse! |
| 02:19.38 | Lothaer | my nose isnt up :D |
| 02:20.04 | pastamancer | is that some sort of norse expression? :p |
| 02:21.12 | Lothaer | yeah it is :D |
| 02:21.39 | pastamancer | at least you're not dutch |
| 02:25.11 | Aiiane | Kody-: did curse just take a nosedive? |
| 02:25.57 | Kody- | Hm, still up for me |
| 02:26.00 | Aiiane | hrm, there it goes... was getting 503 errors for a second there |
| 02:28.06 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 02:36.08 | *** join/#curseforge Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 02:36.08 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 02:37.45 | *** join/#curseforge kolie2 (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:49.08 | *** join/#curseforge orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:53.51 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o kolie] by ChanServ |
| 03:11.06 | Shefki | Thanks to the Curse people for making the 3.0 update day go smoother from an addon perspective than 2.4. |
| 03:11.44 | ckknight | much appreciated |
| 03:11.49 | ckknight | our downtime has been minimal |
| 03:12.03 | ckknight | curseforge's greatest downtime cause: they knocked out the wire |
| 03:12.04 | ckknight | ...asses |
| 03:12.50 | Shefki | That's what caused the repos to go down? |
| 03:13.17 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:13.25 | ckknight | fucking bullshit if you ask me |
| 03:13.30 | *** join/#curseforge Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 03:13.31 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 03:13.52 | Shefki | How do you knock a wire out in a data center. |
| 03:14.24 | ckknight | by not watching your weight? |
| 03:14.26 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 03:17.20 | *** join/#curseforge nou (n=nou@ti231210a080-4278.bb.online.no) |
| 03:17.39 | Nechckn | By giving it a quick uppercut, just after a series of body blows? |
| 03:18.14 | ckknight | down-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y |
| 03:18.22 | ckknight | ...zap |
| 03:18.58 | Shefki | Is there a manual approval process for stuff to syndicate over? |
| 03:19.13 | Shefki | Packager builds stuff fast, takes forever for it to show on curse. |
| 03:20.47 | ckknight | looking into it now |
| 03:20.51 | ckknight | but no, there isn't |
| 03:20.59 | ckknight | they should be up to 5 minutes |
| 03:21.44 | ckknight | alright, the sync script gave up after curseforge went down |
| 03:22.04 | *** join/#curseforge |Yssaril| (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:28.41 | *** join/#curseforge Pazza_ (n=john@cpe-68-173-188-62.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:33.09 | *** topic/#curseforge by ckknight -> Welcome to #curseforge! | Please tell us what you think we're doing wrong and/or right at http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/. | WoW Discussion: #WoWUIDev | WAR Discussion: #WARUIDev | Mac beta curse client: http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseClientSetup-2.0.0.13.dmg | We wiped trying to take down curse, don't worry, we'll take it down next patch day. |
| 03:33.43 | Lothaer | anyone having trouble getting past the loading screen? |
| 03:36.48 | *** join/#curseforge Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 03:36.48 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Dashkal] by ChanServ |
| 03:37.01 | Dashkal | mwrarf |
| 03:50.02 | ckknight | okay, time to go home |
| 03:50.04 | ckknight | hey Dashkal |
| 03:50.15 | ckknight | bbiab |
| 03:53.37 | *** part/#curseforge kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:59.32 | *** join/#curseforge ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 03:59.32 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 04:03.53 | *** join/#curseforge tasky^ (n=Tasky@adsl-152-131-239.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:04.35 | *** part/#curseforge tasky^ (n=Tasky@adsl-152-131-239.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:04.35 | *** join/#curseforge tasky^ (n=Tasky@adsl-152-131-239.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:05.53 | tasky^ | who develops the curse client? |
| 04:06.05 | tasky^ | or manages your backend? |
| 04:06.20 | tasky^ | i assume it interacts with some sort of web service or WCF service |
| 04:06.29 | ckknight | tasky^: Kolie |
| 04:06.35 | tasky^ | kolie you around? |
| 04:06.54 | tasky^ | well message me when you get the chance, i have some questions/comments/suggestions |
| 04:07.05 | tasky^ | and might be interested in helping to improve the app |
| 04:07.08 | tasky^ | if you want |
| 04:08.33 | ckknight | if you want to work on the app, you'd need to talk to netcurse first |
| 04:08.44 | ckknight | netcurse runs the show |
| 04:08.55 | tasky^ | ok, well it's either work on the app if possible, or write my own version |
| 04:09.07 | tasky^ | because i used to use jwu, but obviously can't now |
| 04:09.20 | tasky^ | and a lot of things about the curse client really bother me |
| 04:09.25 | tasky^ | and i _know_ i could do it better |
| 04:09.32 | tasky^ | given the production environment |
| 04:09.53 | tasky^ | i've been a programmer for 12 years, fluent in C#, and love the new 3.0/3.5 technologies |
| 04:10.16 | tasky^ | also, wrote code in VB for 10 years, so I know VB class and VB.NET |
| 04:10.21 | tasky^ | classic * |
| 04:10.40 | tasky^ | experienced writing data-driven websites with PHP and MySQL (i have a sample site available) |
| 04:10.56 | kolie | Hu. |
| 04:11.06 | tasky^ | hi |
| 04:11.21 | *** join/#curseforge ryse (n=j@c-76-125-250-63.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 04:11.23 | kolie | Whatsup. |
| 04:11.35 | ryse | hi |
| 04:11.49 | tasky^ | and i can understand the obvious reasons why you wouldn't allow me to write my own version, so i'm offering my help to improve your client |
| 04:11.52 | tasky^ | i'll work for free |
| 04:11.59 | tasky^ | unless it's a paid position |
| 04:12.03 | tasky^ | in which case, hi :) |
| 04:12.27 | kolie | Whats your question/suggestion? |
| 04:12.34 | tasky^ | a few things |
| 04:12.41 | tasky^ | the organization for the browse addons |
| 04:12.44 | tasky^ | is non-existant |
| 04:12.55 | tasky^ | if you are using .NET which i assume you are (website uses ASPX) |
| 04:13.10 | tasky^ | then i assume the curse client uses a web service |
| 04:13.27 | tasky^ | in which case, the browse screen _needs_ to be fixed |
| 04:13.50 | tasky^ | i.e. capability to search, get by category, and store a local cache to reduce bandwith (which i think you already do) |
| 04:14.07 | tasky^ | also: option to force refresh the detected addons |
| 04:14.13 | tasky^ | i wiped out my \Interface folder |
| 04:14.19 | tasky^ | and it still said i had everything installed |
| 04:14.34 | tasky^ | :) |
| 04:14.59 | tasky^ | second one is an easy fix |
| 04:15.05 | tasky^ | first one might take a minute |
| 04:15.40 | tasky^ | but like i said, i'm an _experienced_ C# developer who knows exactly what to do to get the computer to do _exactly_ what i want, and i write for stability |
| 04:16.11 | tasky^ | but ck says talk to netcurse, but i wanted to speak with you since you manage the project (i assume) |
| 04:16.25 | tasky^ | i mean you're the leader on CF so |
| 04:17.13 | tasky^ | well i'm done rambling for now |
| 04:17.20 | tasky^ | thanks for your time |
| 04:17.29 | pastamancer | be careful what you ask for, you just might get it :p |
| 04:17.43 | tasky^ | ? |
| 04:17.47 | tasky^ | i don't ask for much |
| 04:17.50 | pastamancer | I ended up maintaining files.wowace.com for quite a while after rewriting it :p |
| 04:17.50 | tasky^ | i usually do it |
| 04:18.12 | tasky^ | well |
| 04:18.23 | tasky^ | i have mixed feelings on that subject |
| 04:18.35 | tasky^ | if it interferes with my job, obviously that would come first |
| 04:19.10 | pastamancer | the people who actually work at curse would know better, but I'm not sure the client is .net since there's also a mac version... unless they're completely separate codebases |
| 04:19.20 | ckknight | CC is written in C++ w/ wxWidgets |
| 04:19.20 | tasky^ | well |
| 04:19.22 | pastamancer | I've also not used either version |
| 04:19.27 | tasky^ | thats a shame |
| 04:19.39 | tasky^ | because .NET technologies help integrate everything |
| 04:19.41 | pastamancer | ckknight: that makes sense... I was going to guess py2exe and wx |
| 04:19.45 | tasky^ | and you can compile apps on mono |
| 04:19.49 | pastamancer | tasky^: except OS X |
| 04:19.53 | tasky^ | which is actually at a point where it's stable |
| 04:20.09 | tasky^ | http://mono-project.com/Main_Page |
| 04:20.29 | tasky^ | can port most existing .NET code |
| 04:20.31 | tasky^ | to run on mono |
| 04:20.37 | tasky^ | and they integrate almost flawlessly |
| 04:20.39 | pastamancer | have you used mono? |
| 04:20.44 | tasky^ | not yet |
| 04:20.48 | tasky^ | i run a windows box, so... |
| 04:21.20 | tasky^ | why have you experienced bad things? |
| 04:21.28 | pastamancer | haven't tried it |
| 04:21.35 | tasky^ | oh |
| 04:21.40 | pastamancer | but I'm skeptical |
| 04:21.50 | tasky^ | well it's got novell behind it |
| 04:22.03 | tasky^ | and their old client system from like win95 |
| 04:22.05 | tasky^ | is phased out |
| 04:22.15 | tasky^ | so they wouldn't dump $ into a project thats bound to fail |
| 04:22.22 | tasky^ | and they embrace the open support design |
| 04:22.28 | tasky^ | so it's constantly updated and tweaked |
| 04:22.49 | pastamancer | novell can throw money at whatever they want |
| 04:22.54 | tasky^ | lol |
| 04:23.02 | tasky^ | but that raises the question |
| 04:23.05 | tasky^ | why should they |
| 04:23.05 | pastamancer | even samba doesn't do windows file sharing as well as windows |
| 04:23.25 | pastamancer | nor should anyone expect it to |
| 04:23.41 | pastamancer | likewise, I don't expect mono to be as good as the official .net runtime |
| 04:24.10 | pastamancer | let alone asking mac users to download mono however large it is in addition to the curse client |
| 04:24.11 | tasky^ | well |
| 04:24.19 | pastamancer | at least java comes installed with os x |
| 04:24.34 | tasky^ | valid points |
| 04:24.36 | pastamancer | and the jvm is from sun no matter where you run it |
| 04:24.39 | tasky^ | but i don't like java :P |
| 04:24.56 | pastamancer | I don't like it either, but it makes a lot of things easy |
| 04:25.01 | tasky^ | true |
| 04:25.08 | tasky^ | well i've always been a microsoft kiddy |
| 04:25.23 | tasky^ | learned qbasic @ 8, vbasic @ 10 |
| 04:25.33 | tasky^ | and .NET/PHP/SQL @ 15 |
| 04:25.43 | tasky^ | well .NET might be a little after 15 |
| 04:26.25 | pastamancer | I try to use the right tool for the job, with my experience tending towards unix-centric tools |
| 04:26.44 | tasky^ | :) |
| 04:27.00 | tasky^ | well i just see microsoft finally gaining ground in the enterprise sector again |
| 04:27.08 | tasky^ | IIS wasn't very popular 10 years ago |
| 04:27.49 | pastamancer | I've actually considered active directory at work. OpenLDAP just isn't there yet and Novell's eDirectory is a beast |
| 04:27.49 | sylvanaar | MS knows how to productize the right tool for the right job, and they are a very good software company |
| 04:27.57 | tasky^ | and MS SQL + IIS + .NET = very intergrated applications |
| 04:28.05 | tasky^ | and reusable code |
| 04:28.22 | pastamancer | yeah, IIS and .NET is definitely approaching the commercial j2ee servers |
| 04:28.28 | tasky^ | well |
| 04:28.30 | tasky^ | the fact that |
| 04:28.36 | tasky^ | the same core code can be used in ASP.NET |
| 04:28.42 | tasky^ | and a C# Windows App |
| 04:28.46 | tasky^ | and a web service |
| 04:28.53 | tasky^ | without rewriting anything |
| 04:28.59 | tasky^ | and you know the functionality is going to work |
| 04:29.20 | tasky^ | is very nice :D |
| 04:29.38 | pastamancer | see also java, python... most C libraries in unix... |
| 04:29.54 | tasky^ | ? |
| 04:30.02 | sylvanaar | i went into .net and c# thinking it would be full of fail - and now c# is my favorite language |
| 04:30.03 | pastamancer | or are you talking about something more than reusing an object/class? |
| 04:30.07 | tasky^ | how do you use a C object in python? |
| 04:30.11 | tasky^ | or java? |
| 04:30.13 | tasky^ | natively |
| 04:30.15 | tasky^ | no interop |
| 04:30.27 | tasky^ | sylvanaar---same |
| 04:30.32 | tasky^ | i love C# |
| 04:30.46 | tasky^ | i had the "screw .NET" attitude 6 years ago |
| 04:30.50 | tasky^ | and i wouldn't drop VB6 |
| 04:30.51 | tasky^ | but |
| 04:30.56 | tasky^ | i love .NET now |
| 04:31.05 | pastamancer | you can use python code in a gui app, web service, web site |
| 04:31.09 | sylvanaar | java has the run anywhere promise - but often times the jvms on various platforms are 4 versions old |
| 04:31.19 | pastamancer | or are you talking about the CLR interoperability between C# and VB.NET? |
| 04:31.24 | tasky^ | no |
| 04:31.48 | pastamancer | I really didn't like what little time I spent with VB6 |
| 04:31.50 | tasky^ | you can integrate python with php? |
| 04:32.04 | pastamancer | why would you, you can use python for websites |
| 04:32.14 | tasky^ | show me a mainstream site that uses python |
| 04:32.21 | pastamancer | curseforge.com |
| 04:32.41 | tasky^ | hm |
| 04:32.43 | pastamancer | also, the zope and django frameworks |
| 04:32.44 | tasky^ | curse.com uses aspx |
| 04:32.59 | pastamancer | yes, it used to be python but they had scaling issues with django |
| 04:33.08 | pastamancer | they moved to communityserver |
| 04:33.14 | sylvanaar | thats what he was implying |
| 04:33.18 | tasky^ | scaling issues? like it not being able to handle the load? |
| 04:33.42 | tasky^ | sounds like a necessity for enterprise projects to me |
| 04:33.45 | pastamancer | I don't know the details, but there are some limitations inherent in the django framework |
| 04:34.32 | *** join/#curseforge elite3vil (i=elite3vi@unaffiliated/elite3vil) |
| 04:35.01 | netcurse | well it s all about the developers and what type of scalability expererience they have |
| 04:35.06 | netcurse | honnestly |
| 04:35.13 | tasky^ | true |
| 04:35.19 | elite3vil | netcurse: weren't you going to bed when I left like, three hours ago? lol. |
| 04:35.20 | tasky^ | i've only been a hobbyist developer |
| 04:35.29 | netcurse | and how they DON'T trust their code to perform how they think it will |
| 04:35.41 | netcurse | ya i only slept 3 hours |
| 04:35.46 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:35.57 | tasky^ | i write for stability |
| 04:36.00 | tasky^ | in everything i code |
| 04:36.25 | sylvanaar | today must have been rough netcurse - it seems to have gone pretty well |
| 04:36.46 | tasky^ | well |
| 04:36.54 | tasky^ | programming has always been my passion |
| 04:37.08 | tasky^ | the almost ecstatic feeling when you hit compile |
| 04:37.11 | tasky^ | there's no errors |
| 04:37.12 | netcurse | we are doing 1 million pages views an hour right now sylvanaar |
| 04:37.15 | tasky^ | it launches the debug |
| 04:37.21 | tasky^ | and it works perfectly |
| 04:37.39 | sylvanaar | netcurse wow, i really had no idea |
| 04:37.40 | netcurse | servers are handling perfectly. we are bandwitdh limited |
| 04:37.52 | tasky^ | netcurse |
| 04:37.54 | pastamancer | netcurse: you really need to send kael to LISA this year http://www.usenix.org/event/lisa08/ |
| 04:38.04 | netcurse | we are having a 3rd 1gb/s |
| 04:38.11 | netcurse | pipe being setup |
| 04:38.15 | tasky^ | may i PM you? |
| 04:38.18 | sylvanaar | for china? |
| 04:38.18 | netcurse | yes |
| 04:38.23 | netcurse | uh |
| 04:38.25 | netcurse | for europe |
| 04:38.29 | netcurse | :) |
| 04:38.44 | sylvanaar | china is after them though right? |
| 04:39.07 | netcurse | chinese have their own UI websites ;P |
| 04:39.11 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 04:39.21 | pastamancer | I'd love to see your mrtg/cacti/whatever graphs for this week :) |
| 04:39.32 | sylvanaar | i just saw chinese prat the other day |
| 04:46.08 | ckknight | pastamancer: wrt the website performance, django does have inherent issues, but the vast majority of the issues of the old curse.com were caused by custom code and poor development in that area, including custom hacks to django's core |
| 04:46.33 | pastamancer | ckknight: thanks for the clarification |
| 04:46.51 | ckknight | pastamancer: curseforge is a lot better performance-wise than curse ever was |
| 04:47.06 | ckknight | though they do serve different purposes |
| 04:47.14 | tasky^ | ckknight: does curseforge run on asp.net? |
| 04:47.21 | ckknight | no, Python/Django |
| 04:47.27 | ckknight | though we don't use some parts of Django |
| 04:47.32 | ckknight | have slowly been moving away from it |
| 04:47.42 | ckknight | e.g. we use a different templating system |
| 04:47.46 | ckknight | as well as a few other things |
| 04:48.03 | ckknight | we're planning on switching to SQLAlchemy from Django's ORM sometime in the next week or two |
| 04:48.11 | tasky^ | ic |
| 04:53.58 | Aiiane | gotta love the occasional tidbit in the WAR ui... like this constant: GuildWindow.NOT_A_TAB_BUT_ACTS_LIKE_ONE_ADMIN_BUTTON |
| 04:56.34 | tasky^ | LOL |
| 04:56.55 | ryse | lol |
| 04:56.56 | *** join/#curseforge kolie2 (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:57.28 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o kolie] by ChanServ |
| 05:02.03 | Arrowmaster | i think repo died |
| 05:02.08 | netcurse | ok we have 4 GB/s total now |
| 05:02.18 | netcurse | we are still working out packet loss |
| 05:02.44 | netcurse | everything should be (nearly) fast again |
| 05:02.59 | ckknight | @ping |
| 05:03.02 | Repo | pong |
| 05:03.20 | Arrowmaster | not echoing commits |
| 05:03.20 | ckknight | netcurse: Gib, not GiB, isn't it? |
| 05:03.27 | ckknight | bit, not byte |
| 05:03.48 | netcurse | :) |
| 05:06.29 | *** join/#curseforge sb_ (n=sb@sb.stgt.ipv6.sbuehl.com) |
| 05:06.39 | elite3vil | "World server is down" |
| 05:06.48 | elite3vil | Jesus, I thought I was logging into Live, not the Beta. |
| 05:07.03 | pastamancer | welcome to patch day |
| 05:07.05 | Kody- | ;) |
| 05:07.10 | pastamancer | or do you not remember 2.0 |
| 05:07.12 | elite3vil | I'm having Northrend flashbacks! |
| 05:07.18 | Kody- | They took all of BG9 down for emergency maintenance just now |
| 05:07.25 | Kody- | There was... loot lag |
| 05:07.32 | pastamancer | ewww |
| 05:07.32 | Kody- | Something I haven't experienced since WoW release |
| 05:07.36 | tasky^ | there's always loot lag |
| 05:07.37 | tasky^ | for me |
| 05:07.46 | pastamancer | I've experienced it when my battlegroup was overloaded |
| 05:07.58 | elite3vil | *hops on a zep, waits for it to leave for Northrend, gets deposited in the water somewhere in the ocean* |
| 05:07.59 | pastamancer | it's the database trying to sync |
| 05:11.50 | Arrowmaster | we got loot lag all the time |
| 05:12.04 | Arrowmaster | our server also kept rolling back |
| 05:12.09 | Arrowmaster | i lost atleast 1 mount from it |
| 05:12.36 | Arrowmaster | guildmate is dead in RFC as a ghost falling through the abyss |
| 05:12.38 | *** join/#curseforge Lothaer (n=jamiecoo@58.167.193.157) |
| 05:12.51 | Lothaer | how do i turn of stick bars in BT4? |
| 05:13.07 | Lothaer | off* |
| 05:14.36 | Mortehl_ | You haven't actually lost your mounts |
| 05:14.41 | Mortehl_ | The database server is lagged to retardedd nes |
| 05:15.05 | Mortehl_ | you'll find them mysteriously in your thingy in a day or two |
| 05:15.24 | Arrowmaster | well for now i probably have 0 flying mounts so i cant play the game |
| 05:15.44 | Arrowmaster | since the server crashed again after i learned my 2nd flying mount and i never logged back on |
| 05:17.33 | Lothaer | anyone? |
| 05:20.11 | Mortehl_ | Lothaer, I'm not the developer, but I was havig the same problem. might just be bugged. |
| 05:23.33 | *** join/#curseforge Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 05:23.50 | Tem | Is this the right channel to bitch in about curse stuff? |
| 05:25.26 | Tem | I've been out of the loop with regard to wowace's relationship with curse. I only just realized that aparently me sticking some of my code in the wowace svn a year ago somehow gives curse the "right" to have that addon on their site now. (even though it's been dead since patch 2.2ish anyway) |
| 05:25.46 | Tem | Basically what I'm after is to see my files removed from the site ASAP |
| 05:26.03 | Tem | if there is a delete button, I can't find it |
| 05:26.16 | *** join/#curseforge HolgerDK (n=markj@0x57372af1.nfnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 05:26.19 | sztanpet | actions->abandon project |
| 05:26.32 | Tem | I do not want to abandon my project |
| 05:26.40 | Tem | I want to /delete/ my project |
| 05:26.44 | Lothaer | Tem Curse bought out Ace |
| 05:26.59 | Tem | abandoning seems to magically grant anyone who wants it rights to my work |
| 05:27.22 | Tem | Lothaer, even if they did, they didn't get my permission to distribute my copywrited materials |
| 05:27.41 | Lothaer | im just letting you know what happened |
| 05:28.01 | netcurse | Ckknight: ping |
| 05:28.12 | Lothaer | the new Ace site is pretty much a copy of Curse with dufferent colors |
| 05:28.20 | ckknight | netcurse: pong |
| 05:28.27 | ckknight | Lothaer: or the other way around |
| 05:28.51 | Lothaer | you say tomata i say tamata |
| 05:28.53 | Tem | Lothaer, *nod* that's what I'm noticing |
| 05:29.15 | Tem | either way, I can't find a way to get what I own off the site |
| 05:29.30 | Lothaer | im just trying to figure out how to turn off Sticky Bars in BT4 :D |
| 05:29.33 | Tem | sztanpet, where are the "actions" I must be overlooking them |
| 05:29.37 | netcurse | Ckknight will help you |
| 05:30.45 | ckknight | Tem: get me links to your projects, I'll delete em for you |
| 05:30.51 | Zhinjio | omg, I feel so much better now that multiplicity is running again. |
| 05:30.52 | Tem | Thanks |
| 05:30.57 | Tem | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/finder-reminder.aspx |
| 05:32.07 | Tem | and AceGUI-2.0 |
| 05:32.14 | Tem | no idea why that even got pulled |
| 05:33.48 | Lothaer | ~seen Nevcairiel |
| 05:33.53 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowprogramming (20h 28m 47s) #wowuidev (20h 28m 47s) #wowace (20h 28m 47s) #curseforge (20h 28m 47s). Has said a total of 120 messages. Is idling for 4h 24m 16s, last said: 'yeah, i have that on my list for tomorrow'. |
| 05:33.53 | ckknight | what's the link to Ace GUI? |
| 05:34.03 | netcurse | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ace-gui-2-0.aspx |
| 05:34.10 | Tem | http://my.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ace-gui-2-0.aspx |
| 05:34.21 | Tem | also, what's with the aspx? |
| 05:34.33 | Tem | I was under the impression curse was running on python |
| 05:34.44 | Tem | not microsoft gunkland |
| 05:34.53 | netcurse | we switched over to .net |
| 05:34.57 | Tem | *shudd* |
| 05:34.58 | Tem | er |
| 05:35.00 | Tem | why? |
| 05:35.15 | netcurse | the whole previous curse.com code base was really bad |
| 05:35.15 | ckknight | scalability issues |
| 05:35.27 | Tem | and .net was MORE scalable? |
| 05:35.27 | netcurse | + django is not frendly with scalability |
| 05:35.31 | ckknight | yes |
| 05:35.33 | Tem | oh dear |
| 05:35.48 | Tem | I work in .net atm |
| 05:35.48 | ckknight | all done, Tem, the deletion will sync to curse within 5 minutes |
| 05:35.54 | Tem | fucking _hate_ it |
| 05:36.01 | Tem | ckknight, I just got the email for FinderReminder |
| 05:36.02 | Tem | thanks |
| 05:36.23 | netcurse | Tem, curse.com is doing around 1 million pages views an hour right now |
| 05:36.33 | Tem | okay |
| 05:36.34 | Tem | and? |
| 05:36.36 | netcurse | one DB server loaded at 10%, 4 web servers at 20%.. |
| 05:36.46 | netcurse | with the previous code base we needed 25 servers to do that |
| 05:37.21 | pastamancer | ooh, vbulletin is much nicer for mods than smf |
| 05:37.52 | Tem | that's quite an improvement |
| 05:38.03 | Tem | I still can't fathom choosing to work in .net |
| 05:38.09 | Tem | oh well |
| 05:38.35 | ckknight | what would you recommend instead? |
| 05:38.44 | Tem | don't know, actually |
| 05:38.53 | Tem | <Anything But .Net> |
| 05:39.10 | pastamancer | lisp! :p |
| 05:39.14 | Tem | hah |
| 05:39.21 | Tem | ckknight, can you also remove my user account without removing my wowace forum acount? |
| 05:39.32 | ckknight | no, it's all connected |
| 05:39.35 | elite3vil | I believe they're one in the same now |
| 05:39.38 | Tem | bleh |
| 05:39.43 | ckknight | auth service is centralized |
| 05:40.06 | Tem | wow it really is |
| 05:40.15 | Tem | how did you connect names that don't match? |
| 05:40.50 | ckknight | email |
| 05:41.00 | Tem | makes sense |
| 05:42.23 | pastamancer | Tem: also, ckk knows where you sleep |
| 05:42.40 | ckknight | also true |
| 05:42.41 | ckknight | well |
| 05:42.43 | pastamancer | and the call is coming from inside the house |
| 05:42.45 | ckknight | within 10 meters |
| 05:42.51 | Tem | I was more creeped out by curse.com knowing my birthday |
| 05:42.59 | ckknight | I'm 108 years old |
| 05:43.01 | ckknight | btw |
| 05:43.58 | Tem | ... grats? |
| 05:44.20 | Tem | eh, back to fixing my live account before heading back to beta |
| 05:44.33 | Tem | Thanks again for removing that stuff for me. |
| 05:44.46 | *** part/#curseforge Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 05:53.45 | *** join/#curseforge KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@unaffiliated/krill3) |
| 06:00.52 | *** join/#curseforge copystring_ (n=copystri@p548A1492.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:03.37 | nou | any1 know if quartz still works? |
| 06:04.13 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 06:04.31 | *** join/#curseforge Koskun (n=bob@99.156.30.123) |
| 06:04.35 | nou | nice |
| 06:08.50 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:08.50 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 06:11.42 | *** join/#curseforge pens (i=pens@ip68-5-206-167.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 06:13.23 | pens | does anyone here use the mac version? i found the beta version (2.0.0.15) and it doesn't work at all |
| 06:15.50 | elite3vil | I was told 2.0.0.15 works better than the Windows version. =P |
| 06:16.09 | pens | i point it to my wow directory and it doesn't find any addons |
| 06:16.14 | pens | so no, it doesn't seem to be working |
| 06:16.53 | *** join/#curseforge FtH|Daemona (n=koaschte@i59F625F1.versanet.de) |
| 06:18.43 | elite3vil | well, Kolie seems to be having interweb issues.. and they'd be the person to ask. =P |
| 06:18.53 | pens | unless i'm supposed to install all the addons fro mscratch |
| 06:18.59 | pens | if i install a new addon, it gets put in the right place |
| 06:19.07 | pens | but all my existing addons aren't picked up automatically |
| 06:20.06 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:20.06 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 06:20.14 | elite3vil | Kolie said earlier that it's best to start with a fresh addons folder when starting with the client, iirc. |
| 06:20.34 | pens | ah, ok |
| 06:20.37 | elite3vil | "Pro tip: When using the curse client, start with an empty addon folder." |
| 06:20.39 | pens | i suppose i could back things up and try that |
| 06:20.46 | elite3vil | Was still in my vent comment. =P |
| 06:21.38 | Grum | Good morning! ;) .. hows the patch-storm coming along? :) |
| 06:21.53 | elite3vil | Grum: Heh, US servers are still bouncing up and down. |
| 06:22.03 | Grum | all of them? |
| 06:22.05 | Grum | or just some realms? |
| 06:22.14 | elite3vil | half, or so, I'd say. |
| 06:22.19 | Grum | gawd O.O |
| 06:22.34 | elite3vil | My realm's up, but the Outland World Server is down. |
| 06:22.40 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:22.40 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 06:22.48 | Grum | i reckon EU realms wont be up and stable at the projected 14:00 |
| 06:22.52 | elite3vil | where both of my 70's are. so I'm logged in on a bankalt selling herbs. |
| 06:22.53 | elite3vil | hahahahah. |
| 06:23.00 | Grum | haha making lots of money? |
| 06:23.16 | elite3vil | They projected ours would be stable at 1400.. it's 2330 now and they're still not.' |
| 06:23.34 | elite3vil | I've made 8.2k so far, been on for like 30 mins. |
| 06:23.45 | Grum | wtf how much stacks did you sell? |
| 06:24.05 | elite3vil | uh... yeah. |
| 06:24.17 | elite3vil | 5 bank tabs, and a bunch of bags, full |
| 06:24.47 | elite3vil | but like.. 80g a stack on.. kingsblood and stuff. |
| 06:24.57 | elite3vil | 40g a stack for felweed. rofl. |
| 06:25.10 | Grum | 5 banktabs? LOL :P |
| 06:25.18 | Grum | you stocked that much? O.o |
| 06:25.26 | elite3vil | KJ was dead, and I was bored. |
| 06:25.34 | Grum | you farmed the AH ;P |
| 06:25.52 | elite3vil | little bit, mostly random farming while playing bejeweled. |
| 06:26.52 | Grum | you farmed 5 guildbank tabs of herbs? .. insane |
| 06:27.00 | elite3vil | [02:26:37] [2] [70:Valynnamue]: any other mages unable to port to shattrath? |
| 06:27.01 | Grum | especially pre tbc plants are horrid |
| 06:27.18 | elite3vil | The outland world server has been down since the Kalimdor world server came up. |
| 06:27.26 | elite3vil | You'd think they'd have realized by now. |
| 06:27.45 | Grum | with half the servers down i doubt its of a high priority :P |
| 06:27.58 | Grum | so what are glyphs selling for atm? ;p |
| 06:28.21 | elite3vil | uh.. random posts in the trade channel were like 1250 |
| 06:28.42 | netcurse | i think we are going to hit the 4 gb/s |
| 06:28.45 | netcurse | in a few hours |
| 06:28.59 | netcurse | do i get a cookie |
| 06:29.13 | elite3vil | No, you get a cookie for getting more before you hit 4gb/s |
| 06:29.14 | elite3vil | =! |
| 06:29.27 | Grum | netcurse: no typing here! you're wasting BW! |
| 06:29.59 | Grum | netcurse: is there any public graphs? |
| 06:30.00 | netcurse | i m hoping we don t use 4 gb/s |
| 06:30.06 | netcurse | more than a few hours.. |
| 06:30.18 | Grum | haha |
| 06:30.21 | elite3vil | lol |
| 06:30.29 | Grum | tough luck; EU is about to start patching as well |
| 06:30.33 | Grum | well .. in 6 hours :P |
| 06:30.34 | netcurse | that could end up being a VERY expensive bill. |
| 06:30.45 | netcurse | 100-200k usd |
| 06:30.48 | netcurse | just in bandwith |
| 06:31.05 | pastamancer | I hope you're getting a lot of ad impressions |
| 06:31.07 | Grum | you pay for the spike in bandwidth or the amount of traffic? |
| 06:31.16 | netcurse | we ll pay for the spike |
| 06:31.21 | Grum | then cap it? |
| 06:31.25 | netcurse | we can't |
| 06:31.29 | netcurse | we are down |
| 06:31.30 | netcurse | if we do this |
| 06:31.42 | netcurse | too many packet loss |
| 06:31.54 | pastamancer | sounds like a router that can't keep up |
| 06:31.56 | netcurse | pastamancer, to be honnest the recession is hitting badly ads rates right now |
| 06:32.04 | Grum | i have to say; impressive to sustain 4gbit addon-traffic :P |
| 06:32.17 | pastamancer | netcurse: that sucks, I hadn't thought of that |
| 06:33.01 | netcurse | i don t think we ll get back on our investment on that patch pasta but it doesn't mater |
| 06:33.15 | netcurse | at least we ar eup |
| 06:33.24 | Grum | which is impressive in itself |
| 06:33.31 | Grum | i think this is worse than the worse slashdot you can get :P |
| 06:33.38 | netcurse | and we didn't cut features on the site |
| 06:33.38 | Grum | *worst |
| 06:33.49 | netcurse | i ll take a print screen |
| 06:33.51 | netcurse | of traffic spike |
| 06:33.52 | Grum | how many boxes are handling the webtraffic? |
| 06:33.53 | netcurse | tomorrow |
| 06:34.08 | netcurse | well we run about 10 sites |
| 06:34.11 | netcurse | but for just curse.com |
| 06:34.14 | Grum | must be 20-30 orso? |
| 06:34.18 | netcurse | we have 9 servers |
| 06:34.30 | netcurse | 4 web, 3 media, 2 DB |
| 06:34.35 | Grum | i wonder; are many people using CurseClient? |
| 06:34.41 | netcurse | about 250 000 |
| 06:34.46 | elite3vil | Grum: Ask how many more pipes they had to install earlier. rofl. |
| 06:35.09 | netcurse | we are on 4 fiber 1gb/s line |
| 06:35.09 | netcurse | :) |
| 06:35.14 | Grum | oh fek |
| 06:35.25 | Grum | so the stretch is gone when you reach 4gbit |
| 06:35.27 | elite3vil | Didn't you start the day at two? |
| 06:35.39 | netcurse | we started with 1 |
| 06:36.04 | netcurse | we won't use more than 4 tho |
| 06:36.39 | Grum | because you dont have more than 4 web-boxes? |
| 06:36.44 | netcurse | ah no |
| 06:36.49 | netcurse | the media traffic is dedicatd |
| 06:36.51 | netcurse | yeah |
| 06:36.54 | netcurse | we have 3 media servers |
| 06:36.59 | netcurse | each one has 1 gb/s |
| 06:37.18 | Grum | and the rest on 1gb/s as well; makes sense; but its all the more scarier your are hitting the cap |
| 06:37.22 | netcurse | the whole curse.com is very optimized now |
| 06:37.26 | Grum | 1gb/s webtraffic is scary :p |
| 06:37.42 | netcurse | we don t have a server loaded a more than 20% |
| 06:37.47 | netcurse | i m very happy |
| 06:37.53 | Grum | damn impressive; the site responds instantly |
| 06:38.13 | netcurse | knowning we are doing the trafic of both thottbot and wowhead combined right now |
| 06:38.22 | netcurse | on 4 web servers |
| 06:38.50 | netcurse | could be 2 |
| 06:38.54 | netcurse | huh |
| 06:39.03 | elite3vil | netcurse: think this could last another 12 hours or so? =P |
| 06:39.22 | Grum | more |
| 06:39.24 | netcurse | you are going to tell me well it's been 4 years we have been sucking at staying up at patch days, it's about time we make it |
| 06:39.24 | netcurse | :) |
| 06:39.29 | Grum | 6 hours till EU goes live |
| 06:39.34 | netcurse | yeah we are fine |
| 06:39.35 | Grum | then it will rage on for at least 12 hours pas that |
| 06:39.50 | elite3vil | lol.. you mean 6 hours til EU is supposed to go live. |
| 06:39.58 | Grum | some will get online ;) |
| 06:40.01 | netcurse | the big spike is 2 hours after EU gets up |
| 06:40.05 | Grum | and people will start patching when they get home |
| 06:40.10 | netcurse | i m expecting 2 millions pages views an hour |
| 06:40.12 | netcurse | at this time |
| 06:40.49 | Grum | netcurse: i'd be intrested in a small tech writeup in what kind of system you use to actually keep it running this well |
| 06:41.02 | Grum | that many pageviews cannot be done conventionally |
| 06:41.04 | netcurse | I ll have Adamar write a blog post |
| 06:41.41 | netcurse | Basically, they spent 2 weeks just optimizing the pages |
| 06:41.47 | netcurse | with one thing in mind |
| 06:41.55 | netcurse | good code is a code that never execute |
| 06:41.56 | Grum | 'patchdoom!' |
| 06:42.25 | Grum | well seeing you have lots and lots of information on the site that would normally require a query; i'm curious how you solved that caching wise |
| 06:42.25 | netcurse | the good news is, everything is cached, and cache invalidation is working perfecly |
| 06:42.49 | Aiiane | comments are still a little odd at times netcurse :x |
| 06:42.55 | netcurse | mmz |
| 06:43.01 | Grum | what did you use to cache? just static html on the server? |
| 06:43.03 | netcurse | we ll fix it |
| 06:43.03 | Aiiane | I ran into a couple of times yesterday when adding a comment didn't invalidate cache until I added another |
| 06:43.19 | netcurse | we have 2 tiers of cache |
| 06:43.21 | netcurse | data cache |
| 06:43.25 | netcurse | and output caching |
| 06:43.41 | netcurse | giving you an exemple |
| 06:43.46 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:43.46 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 06:43.54 | netcurse | the front page right now |
| 06:43.54 | netcurse | This page was rendered: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:39:27 PM (256 seconds ago) |
| 06:44.14 | netcurse | so anyone hitting it |
| 06:44.22 | netcurse | is just getting HTML |
| 06:44.27 | netcurse | no code executed |
| 06:45.08 | netcurse | but i will have adamar write a few things about what he did |
| 06:45.15 | netcurse | for exemple your favorite are stored in cookies |
| 06:45.20 | netcurse | so we don t query the SQL server |
| 06:45.34 | netcurse | when you look at an addon page |
| 06:45.48 | netcurse | bunch of small tricks |
| 06:46.08 | netcurse | that's why i said earlier the langague doesn't mater |
| 06:46.14 | elite3vil | Grum: [02:45:41] [2] [Zugzugdaboo]: WTB DREAMFOIL, PLAGUEBLOOM, ICECAP, OR MOUNTAIN SILVERSAGE 100g/stack! |
| 06:46.16 | elite3vil | rofl. |
| 06:46.18 | netcurse | experience of the developers in scalabity does ;) |
| 06:46.21 | Aiiane | This page was rendered: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:30:31 PM (15102 seconds ago) |
| 06:46.30 | Grum | lol go go elite3vil |
| 06:46.30 | netcurse | not possible |
| 06:46.31 | netcurse | :P |
| 06:46.41 | netcurse | output caching can only last 3600 seconds |
| 06:46.43 | netcurse | on curse |
| 06:46.44 | elite3vil | I've got 40 stacks of Dreamfoil. >.> |
| 06:46.50 | Aiiane | netcurse: that's copied directly from the page :P |
| 06:46.56 | Grum | 4k gold ftw! |
| 06:46.56 | netcurse | lol |
| 06:47.07 | Grum | why wouldnt it cache longer? |
| 06:47.14 | Grum | as long as the page doesn't change ... |
| 06:47.20 | netcurse | it could be 24 hours |
| 06:47.28 | netcurse | but we wanted to make sure |
| 06:47.34 | netcurse | that if we had cache invalidation issues |
| 06:47.42 | netcurse | the user experience would still be decent |
| 06:47.51 | Aiiane | netcurse: http://war.curse.com/ |
| 06:47.58 | Aiiane | definitely says 15000 seconds ago |
| 06:48.04 | Aiiane | www.curse.com reports 368 seconds |
| 06:48.04 | Grum | no-one uses war |
| 06:48.12 | Aiiane | I beg to differ, Grum |
| 06:48.14 | netcurse | This page was rendered: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:51:08 PM (21409 seconds ago) |
| 06:48.15 | netcurse | mm |
| 06:48.21 | netcurse | maybe they higher up the cache |
| 06:48.37 | *** join/#curseforge Elkano (n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 06:48.48 | Grum | it would be silly to have a short ttl; especially when you also have cache invalidation |
| 06:49.15 | Grum | tossing pages away within an hour still requires them to be regenerated causing load which was not needed |
| 06:49.23 | netcurse | ya |
| 06:49.26 | netcurse | i guess they changed it |
| 06:49.33 | netcurse | because invalidation is working well |
| 06:50.18 | netcurse | things could be even more optimized |
| 06:50.25 | netcurse | we don't share the cache files between web servers |
| 06:50.32 | netcurse | so that would reduce massively SQL queries |
| 06:50.54 | Grum | depending on the size of the cached files; you could use memcache |
| 06:51.09 | Aiiane | LOL netcurse |
| 06:51.13 | Aiiane | This page was rendered: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:49:39 PM (-52 seconds ago) Possible Caching Issue! |
| 06:51.24 | netcurse | your time is not synced with the server |
| 06:51.25 | netcurse | but yes |
| 06:51.25 | Aiiane | I think your server's clock is a bit off from mine :P |
| 06:51.26 | Aiiane | yeah :P |
| 06:51.34 | netcurse | we have the big POSSIBLE CACHING ISSUE! |
| 06:51.35 | netcurse | in red |
| 06:51.36 | Aiiane | was just amusing to see '-52 seconds' |
| 06:51.38 | netcurse | for the developers ;) |
| 06:51.54 | Aiiane | red and blinky o.o |
| 06:52.09 | netcurse | Grum, i think Adamar was not sure about IIS and memcache |
| 06:52.27 | Grum | memcache is completely standalone from anything |
| 06:53.20 | netcurse | mm |
| 06:53.46 | netcurse | i guess we ll keep optimizing post patch |
| 06:53.52 | netcurse | so we can run everything on 2 servers |
| 06:54.09 | Grum | the downside is; it uses your memory; the upside is .. its stupidly fast |
| 06:54.27 | netcurse | one new thing microsoft introduced with IIS is the kernel caching |
| 06:54.33 | netcurse | with windows 2008 server |
| 06:54.49 | netcurse | it's insanely fast |
| 06:55.12 | netcurse | but they have a bug in the web server right now you will never believe this |
| 06:55.32 | netcurse | when you load a page kernel cached with firefox, it reset the cache |
| 06:55.54 | netcurse | when we told microsoft they didn't believe us, they spent 2 hours remoting on our servers |
| 06:55.59 | netcurse | they will hot fix IIS |
| 06:59.20 | netcurse | i need to go ;) i'll be back in 1h30 or so |
| 07:01.18 | Grum | you know; those bugs can only happen with microsoft :p |
| 07:06.38 | *** join/#curseforge Zeksie (n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 07:10.33 | starlon | Hmm is my commit for StarTip causing errors? |
| 07:13.00 | Aiiane | Creating zip /repos/packaging/zip/wow/startip-v1.1.8b.zip ERROR 128 with LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" /usr/local/bin/git "--no-pager" "cat-file" "tag" "v1.1.8b": |
| 07:13.00 | Aiiane | fatal: git-cat-file v1.1.8b bad file |
| 07:13.19 | starlon | k |
| 07:43.23 | *** join/#curseforge Srosh (n=Srosh@c155029.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 07:43.54 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 07:43.54 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 08:06.02 | *** join/#curseforge Chompers (n=Chompers@cpc1-cove9-0-0-cust541.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 08:11.25 | *** join/#curseforge Aiiane (n=Aiiane@starfire.ST.HMC.Edu) |
| 08:11.25 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Aiiane] by ChanServ |
| 08:13.13 | *** join/#curseforge Zeksie (n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 08:14.48 | *** join/#curseforge netcurse (n=hthieblo@ATuileries-153-1-9-190.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:14.48 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o netcurse] by ChanServ |
| 08:18.44 | starlon | I think I messed up StarTip's repository :\ |
| 08:28.18 | *** join/#curseforge rysey (n=j@c-76-125-250-63.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 08:44.11 | starlon | Ok, files were created, but there were errors I'm pretty sure. |
| 08:45.01 | netcurse | i dunno how to fix it :( |
| 08:45.04 | starlon | The files don't show up on the project's main page though. |
| 08:45.14 | starlon | at curseforge that is |
| 08:45.20 | starlon | they're showing on curse |
| 08:46.14 | starlon | actually they do show on curseforge under http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/startip/files/ but not on the "Recent Files" part of the main page. |
| 08:46.58 | starlon | I suppose as long as people can download it from curse it's fine |
| 08:47.43 | *** join/#curseforge profalbert (n=profalbe@91-113-22-173.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 08:53.38 | Aiiane | they show up under recent files for me starlon |
| 08:55.04 | starlon | You see 1.2.1b? |
| 08:55.35 | profalbert | so is the "Check for Updates"-button supposed to work? |
| 08:55.40 | profalbert | in CurseClient? |
| 08:56.02 | Aiiane | starlon: yes |
| 08:56.10 | Aiiane | profalbert: theoretically, yes |
| 08:56.27 | profalbert | well it does nothing for me, sadly |
| 08:56.28 | profalbert | http://i37.tinypic.com/4lg5r5.png |
| 08:56.45 | starlon | That's weird. I did a hard refresh and they're still not showing. |
| 09:09.06 | *** join/#curseforge GollyGosh (n=chatzill@dslb-088-074-022-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:09.11 | ashb | so is there a new Omen that works with new threat info? |
| 09:09.22 | *** join/#curseforge Ominous (n=Ominous@144.173.243.46) |
| 09:09.58 | starlon | Yeah, I got it from wowace. |
| 09:10.02 | starlon | Omen3 |
| 09:18.59 | *** join/#curseforge dafire (n=warlock@212.144.226.139) |
| 09:27.59 | dafire | ckknight? .9 |
| 09:31.32 | netcurse | he's sleeping |
| 09:33.06 | dafire | anyone with mac here ? .9 |
| 09:39.02 | netcurse | i have a mac |
| 09:39.39 | Grum | same |
| 09:55.07 | *** join/#curseforge yoshimo (n=chatzill@p5B0C2B0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:58.10 | *** join/#curseforge cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 09:59.08 | *** join/#curseforge [SW]Dodge (n=Miranda@p508CD8D2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:00.05 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning all :) curse still up? :P |
| 10:00.26 | nevcairiel | EU is just starting to rain its hell onto the servers |
| 10:00.42 | starlon | "We're sorry, you've attempted to access a page that decided to jump off its flying mount high over shattrath and forgot to bubble." |
| 10:01.07 | starlon | I get that when I try to manage http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/ouf_readycheck/ |
| 10:02.08 | *** join/#curseforge TheOther (n=nahh@163.80-202-155.nextgentel.com) |
| 10:03.49 | orionshock | ... we just did gorefiend in 2 mins... |
| 10:03.51 | orionshock | >.> |
| 10:04.11 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 10:04.22 | nevcairiel | still 2 hours for the first ETA of EU servers |
| 10:04.26 | nevcairiel | wonder how many push backs we get |
| 10:04.40 | nevcairiel | and wonder how broken my UI will be |
| 10:05.03 | ZorbaTHut | I was actually surprised by how broken my UI wasn't |
| 10:05.17 | nevcairiel | I updated all my stuff that i knew was going to break |
| 10:05.18 | ZorbaTHut | in the end I've only got four mods that I care about that aren't working |
| 10:05.21 | nevcairiel | but probably didnt hit all |
| 10:08.36 | netcurse | it's still the biggest patch day ever |
| 10:08.51 | netcurse | we peaked at 1 million page views per hour |
| 10:08.53 | netcurse | yesterday |
| 10:08.58 | netcurse | today should be 1.5 1.7 |
| 10:09.36 | netcurse | we used caped our 2 GB/s uplink |
| 10:09.50 | netcurse | and we now have a 4 GB/s uplink |
| 10:10.02 | Pneumatus | things are gonna get a bit hairy in then next 2/3 hours then o.O |
| 10:10.11 | netcurse | in 4-5 hours |
| 10:10.12 | netcurse | yes |
| 10:10.26 | netcurse | peak will be in 6 hours :) |
| 10:10.43 | Pneumatus | well, all the kids will be home from school in ~3 hours |
| 10:11.02 | Pneumatus | then adults home from work in ~5/6hrs :) |
| 10:11.09 | nevcairiel | netcurse: not true, 2.0 patch day was way worse =P |
| 10:11.17 | netcurse | no it's not |
| 10:11.32 | netcurse | we used WAY less bandwitdh |
| 10:11.33 | nevcairiel | every addon had to be changed to work |
| 10:11.35 | nevcairiel | _every_ |
| 10:11.41 | nevcairiel | because the server crapped out |
| 10:11.41 | netcurse | yes but now you have twice more players |
| 10:11.41 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:12.14 | ZorbaTHut | seriously, it's not like people aren't updating every addon anyway |
| 10:12.24 | ZorbaTHut | I certainly did |
| 10:12.34 | Pneumatus | the amount of people using addons on the 2.0 patch id imagine is significantly lower than 3.0 as well |
| 10:12.51 | netcurse | hold on |
| 10:12.53 | netcurse | i ll tell you what |
| 10:12.59 | netcurse | i can compare analytic stats |
| 10:12.59 | netcurse | :P |
| 10:13.49 | FtH|Daemona | hmmm the BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows addon contains a .svn folder ? |
| 10:15.25 | netcurse | yep this is bigger for sure |
| 10:21.17 | [SW]Dodge | for some reason CC wants to update one of my addons with .svn folder :/ |
| 10:34.19 | cncfanatics | ~whaleparry |
| 10:34.31 | cncfanatics | damn, where's purl ? |
| 10:36.10 | netcurse | it's dead |
| 10:54.33 | profalbert | purl, ping |
| 10:54.34 | purl | ~pong |
| 10:56.19 | *** join/#curseforge Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 11:03.48 | cncfanatics | netcurse: is the patch for eu on dl somewhere on curse ? |
| 11:04.32 | nevcairiel | that would kill curse so much more =P |
| 11:05.04 | profalbert | cncfanatics: http://wowsource.4players.de/downloadspatches.php |
| 11:05.15 | cncfanatics | thats a german patch iirc |
| 11:05.20 | cncfanatics | can't find the english patch on that page |
| 11:05.22 | profalbert | it's the EU-patch |
| 11:05.33 | profalbert | I used it for my enGB-version |
| 11:05.39 | cncfanatics | oh ok |
| 11:05.43 | cncfanatics | there's de in the filename, confusing |
| 11:05.55 | nevcairiel | they give it weird names |
| 11:06.13 | profalbert | www_wowsource_de_2_4_3_to_3_0_1_eu_win_teil__5.zip |
| 11:06.16 | profalbert | no de in here |
| 11:06.25 | nevcairiel | in the domain name :P |
| 11:06.29 | profalbert | oh, right |
| 11:06.42 | nevcairiel | I mirrored the patch on my own webspace and gave it a proper name |
| 11:06.49 | nevcairiel | WoW-2.4.3-to-3.0.2-TBC-EU-Stage3.zip :P |
| 11:07.00 | cncfanatics | mmm, that ftp ain't the fastest there is, but its decent |
| 11:07.04 | cncfanatics | tnx :) |
| 11:07.32 | cncfanatics | I need all 5 parts if I have no files from the bg downloader I supose ? |
| 11:07.45 | nevcairiel | i could give you a faster one if you want :P |
| 11:07.49 | profalbert | yep |
| 11:08.04 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: I'd love that :) |
| 11:09.12 | Grum | all US servers up btw? |
| 11:27.18 | *** join/#curseforge kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 11:34.43 | Kuja^ | i just love the error messages of git, really |
| 11:34.48 | Kuja^ | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 11:35.28 | *** join/#curseforge Antiarc1 (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-83-174.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 11:37.46 | *** join/#curseforge Adirelle (n=adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge Adirelle (n=adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-83-174.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge Ominous (n=Ominous@144.173.243.46) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge profalbert (n=profalbe@91-113-22-173.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge rysey (n=j@c-76-125-250-63.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge Zeksie (n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 11:49.11 | *** join/#curseforge Aiiane (n=Aiiane@starfire.ST.HMC.Edu) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge Chompers (n=Chompers@cpc1-cove9-0-0-cust541.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge Elkano (n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge FtH|Daemona (n=koaschte@i59F625F1.versanet.de) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge pens (i=pens@ip68-5-206-167.oc.oc.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge copystring_ (n=copystri@p548A1492.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@unaffiliated/krill3) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge HolgerDK (n=markj@0x57372af1.nfnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge sb (n=sb@sb.stgt.ipv6.sbuehl.com) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge nou (n=nou@ti231210a080-4278.bb.online.no) |
| 11:49.12 | *** join/#curseforge orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge digmouse (n=chatzill@58.217.222.114) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge Nechckn (n=N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/PRManager/Nechckn) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge TheDeamon (i=TheDeamo@69-20-145-84.static.ida.net) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge FrostByghte (n=frostbyg@70-250-240-34.ded.swbell.net) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge Zhinjio (i=1000@70.91.168.58) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge Justin__ (n=Justin@c-69-136-76-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge lua_bot (n=lua_bot@li37-84.members.linode.com) |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge nevcairiel (i=nevcairi@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel) |
| 11:49.56 | *** mode/#curseforge [+ovov Kolie Aiiane ckknight nevcairiel] by irc.freenode.net |
| 11:49.56 | *** join/#curseforge Kemayo (n=kemayo@pool-71-104-210-99.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge ANTRat (n=antrat@rrcs-97-76-73-47.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge ZealotOnAStick (n=ZOAS@WoWUIDev/CurseStaff/EvilQA/ZealotOnAStick) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge Lukian (i=wizard@203.171.70.21.dynamic.rev.aanet.com.au) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge SNiLD (i=snild@nurmijarvi.net) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge ashb (n=ash@callisto.firemirror.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge vulture (n=vulture@12-202-152-146.client.mchsi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge vhaarr (n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge Yuxans (n=yuxans@2001:470:1f05:4dc:250:8dff:fe94:528e) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge dodga (n=ap@ath0.org) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge Aii (n=Aiiane@knuth.cs.hmc.edu) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 11:49.57 | *** join/#curseforge Kody- (n=nope@adsl-99-173-10-198.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge Archarodim (i=HydraIRC@88.164.134.95) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge phyber (i=phyber@irssi.co.uk) |
| 11:49.58 | *** mode/#curseforge [+vo Aii Kody-] by irc.freenode.net |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge Dotted (i=Dotted@bureaucrat.wowwiki.dk) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge [Liquidor] (n=denras19@fw-tk-1.ruc.dk) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge Grum (n=grum@codebase2.xs4all.nl) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge Maldivia (i=the_real@tux.nerdheaven.dk) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge pastamancer (n=kyle@vostok.13th-floor.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge leech2k (n=leech@66.119.206.225) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge Gnarfoz (i=smallbra@unaffiliated/gnarfoz) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#curseforge Stanzilla (n=Stan@irc.kuja.in) |
| 11:49.59 | *** join/#curseforge Kuja^ (n=Kuja@mail.gmake.de) |
| 11:49.59 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net |
| 11:51.32 | *** join/#curseforge Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 11:51.32 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 11:55.45 | *** join/#curseforge Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 11:55.45 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 11:56.54 | *** join/#curseforge dafire (n=warlock@dslb-088-070-055-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:00.06 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 12:02.29 | Kuja^ | Kaelten: any known problems with the git repos? can't clone the omen repo for example |
| 12:02.31 | dafire | what error do you get ? |
| 12:02.31 | Kaelten | Kuja^: should be working. |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-074-182-161-037.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-83-174.ph.ph.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge rysey (n=j@c-76-125-250-63.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge Aiiane (n=Aiiane@starfire.ST.HMC.Edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge pens (i=pens@ip68-5-206-167.oc.oc.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge copystring_ (n=copystri@p548A1492.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge digmouse (n=chatzill@58.217.222.114) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge Nechckn (n=N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/PRManager/Nechckn) |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge FrostByghte (n=frostbyg@70-250-240-34.ded.swbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge vhaarr (n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge dodga (n=ap@ath0.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.32 | *** join/#curseforge Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#curseforge Kody- (n=nope@adsl-99-173-10-198.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.33 | *** mode/#curseforge [+ovoo Kolie Aiiane ckknight Kody-] by irc.freenode.net |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#curseforge Archarodim (i=HydraIRC@88.164.134.95) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#curseforge phyber (i=phyber@irssi.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#curseforge ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#curseforge pastamancer (n=kyle@vostok.13th-floor.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#curseforge qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#curseforge leech2k (n=leech@66.119.206.225) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:02.33 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net |
| 12:03.23 | Kaelten | but ya whats the response? |
| 12:03.23 | Kuja^ | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 12:03.24 | dafire | what url did you try ? |
| 12:03.24 | Kuja^ | the one listed on wowace: git://git.wowace.com/wow/omen-threat-meter/mainline.git |
| 12:03.24 | dafire | that one don't work for me either :9 |
| 12:03.53 | nevcairiel | maybe the git daemon crashed |
| 12:04.04 | nevcairiel | i only used the ssh links |
| 12:08.11 | *** join/#curseforge [SW]Dodge_ (n=Miranda@p508CD8D2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:09.45 | *** join/#curseforge [SW]Dodge (n=Miranda@p508CD8D2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:10.02 | Pneumatus | is it intentional that i cant click on the "See Addon Details" link in the curse client? |
| 12:14.04 | Kuja^ | the ssh link dosn't seem to work either, because i don't have read access (and i don't know why btw, isn't the repo listed as open? :o ) |
| 12:14.12 | dafire | are the beta servers up ? |
| 12:15.01 | nevcairiel | were up erarlier today |
| 12:15.04 | nevcairiel | so i guess |
| 12:15.16 | dafire | ok .. guess i do my interface there then :9 |
| 12:27.06 | netcurse | EU servers up? |
| 12:27.21 | Pneumatus | nope |
| 12:27.31 | Pneumatus | estimated in another 30 mins as it stands |
| 12:27.39 | *** join/#curseforge Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 12:28.20 | Pneumatus | is there a way to see what addons the curse client is not handling? |
| 12:29.35 | netcurse | we need to add it |
| 12:29.38 | *** join/#curseforge Vangual (n=bah@84-73-127-44.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 12:29.56 | Pneumatus | is there a way to see what current version of an addon i have installed, and what version it will be updated to? |
| 12:30.43 | Pneumatus | is there a way to complete remove an addon from the curse client without uninstalling it (as its no longer maintained on curse) |
| 12:34.52 | Hjalte | Pneumatus: I've just used the "Toggle auto updated" on those addons. |
| 12:35.31 | Pneumatus | well, ive got auto-update switched off for now anyway :) |
| 12:38.59 | Kuja^ | netcurse: think i just found a bug: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/omen-threat-meter.aspx the reply with the empty username is mine, when i clicked on my name in the upper right, i was asked to log in even though i did that, i wouldn't see it otherwise |
| 12:50.07 | Pneumatus | heh, bug in the curse client |
| 12:50.19 | *** join/#curseforge Funkeh` (n=funk@host81-157-53-173.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:50.24 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 12:50.25 | Pneumatus | if AddonName.zip exists in your temp folder before the curse client starts playing around, things get weird |
| 12:51.15 | *** join/#curseforge Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 12:51.15 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 12:53.07 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: pushing to the git repos takes ages, too |
| 13:01.25 | Gnarfoz | Kolie: is there a newer (beta?) build of the CC for windows than the 2.0.0.14 release one on curse.com/client? |
| 13:01.43 | nevcairiel | i hear rumors of a .15 |
| 13:01.46 | nevcairiel | *heard |
| 13:02.04 | Gnarfoz | that's mac afaik |
| 13:02.08 | Tinyboom | meh |
| 13:06.44 | Elkano | if there was wouldn't it update itself? |
| 13:07.05 | nevcairiel | not for betas |
| 13:12.00 | *** join/#curseforge quoin (n=quoin@122-49-150-126.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 13:27.03 | Stanzilla | EU servers coming up |
| 13:30.46 | nou | retrieving character list ;< |
| 13:31.05 | Gnarfoz | don't hammer them, idiots :< |
| 13:32.47 | *** join/#curseforge SickCat (n=sickcat@f4ts07i01.advancemags.com) |
| 13:32.51 | SickCat | Hullo :) |
| 13:34.17 | SickCat | BAM! Got exactly what I needed from the motd...nice... |
| 13:34.17 | SickCat | BTW...HUGE props to you guys for working with Ace and handling what they put in your lap... |
| 13:37.04 | Gnarfoz | SickCat: huh :D it's not like they went all "well, we're off, you take care of this now - have fun xD" ^^ |
| 13:40.09 | SickCat | Hehehe, yea, I just got the real scoop this morning...sounds like you'd been picking up slack for a while...anyway, it's good to know you are willing and able to do it. |
| 13:49.14 | dafire | some battlegroups are broken .. no bg |
| 13:49.39 | nevcairiel | probably still starting |
| 13:49.50 | dafire | no... it's officially broken |
| 13:50.02 | dafire | In-game customer support is currently reduced due to technical reasons. Additionally, cross realm battlegrounds will be unavailable on multiple realms. |
| 13:53.32 | *** join/#curseforge Jaynn (n=scottden@192.195.66.129) |
| 13:56.10 | Gnarfoz | kolie is so afk :< |
| 13:56.19 | Gnarfoz | where's the .15 mac client at? ^^ |
| 13:59.19 | *** join/#curseforge Chryzo (n=dtc@92.81.127.24) |
| 14:01.28 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-070-154-141-174.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:01.28 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 14:04.48 | cladhaire | I'm unable to change my authorization info on wowace |
| 14:05.13 | cladhaire | this is inconvenient =( |
| 14:05.31 | *** join/#curseforge Chryzo (n=dtc@92.81.127.24) |
| 14:06.42 | cladhaire | its saying my SSH key must be on a single line, but it is |
| 14:07.04 | dafire | you could try at curseforge |
| 14:07.13 | dafire | it shares info |
| 14:07.29 | cladhaire | k thanks. |
| 14:07.42 | cladhaire | same error =( |
| 14:07.47 | cladhaire | oh well i guess i'll use password for right now. |
| 14:08.06 | ckknight | cladhaire: pastey your ssh key |
| 14:08.10 | ckknight | I'll see what I can do |
| 14:08.20 | *** join/#curseforge p3lim (n=p3lim@212251216176.customer.cdi.no) |
| 14:08.27 | cladhaire | thank you sir! |
| 14:08.28 | cladhaire | ckknight: http://cladhaire.pastey.net/98337 |
| 14:09.09 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@adsl-074-239-065-141.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:09.09 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 14:10.09 | ckknight | I set it fine |
| 14:10.13 | ckknight | probably the newline at the end |
| 14:10.18 | cladhaire | I removed the newline |
| 14:10.18 | ckknight | I'll fix that so it doesn't happen again |
| 14:10.21 | cladhaire | maybe my browser? |
| 14:10.24 | cladhaire | I can try with ffox |
| 14:11.09 | Pneumatus | curse is holding up with the EU rush then :) |
| 14:11.16 | Funkeh` | Kolie, CC not deleting folders before it updates them is leaving a horrible mess everywhere |
| 14:11.34 | ckknight | cladhaire: what were you using? |
| 14:11.39 | cladhaire | ckknight: Safari |
| 14:11.50 | ckknight | well, I updated the code on the server now anyway |
| 14:11.55 | ckknight | so that ending newlines wouldn't matter |
| 14:12.03 | cladhaire | but i had removed the newline |
| 14:12.06 | cladhaire | let me try again |
| 14:12.08 | cladhaire | see if i can figure it out |
| 14:12.35 | ckknight | well, I already set it for you |
| 14:12.49 | cladhaire | I was going to change it to another key (change a char) |
| 14:12.56 | cladhaire | bvut i can just not bother if you dont want to |
| 14:12.57 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 14:13.02 | cladhaire | was just trying to be helpful |
| 14:24.41 | *** join/#curseforge ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 14:24.41 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 14:29.20 | Gnarfoz | did curse just die? :( |
| 14:29.44 | Gnarfoz | I was just installing all of the addons I use I could find in CC and now the d/l bars have stopped ^^ |
| 14:29.51 | ckknight | no, Gnarfoz |
| 14:30.06 | ckknight | don't think so |
| 14:30.19 | Gnarfoz | well, I don't want to mark 160 out of 200000 (or how ever many addons are on curse right now) again :X |
| 14:32.12 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.07 | Gnarfoz | ahhh it *does* have a timeout |
| 14:33.10 | Gnarfoz | phew |
| 14:33.38 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: the -nolib as default thing has been fixed, right? |
| 14:33.44 | netcurse | we are pushing more than 2gb/s |
| 14:34.23 | Gnarfoz | all the while being perfectly reachable, nice |
| 14:36.22 | Gnarfoz | btw, did you blanket premium everyone or does author premium work again? |
| 14:44.17 | netcurse | everyone has premium |
| 14:44.25 | Gnarfoz | I see. :) |
| 14:44.52 | ckknight | we do need to come up with a proper way so that authors get free premium and such |
| 14:45.46 | Gnarfoz | still installing addons ;D it's stable, but it's slow ;> |
| 14:48.51 | *** join/#curseforge Ackis (n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 14:48.51 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Ackis] by ChanServ |
| 14:49.49 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 14:55.10 | Elkano | wb Ackis :) |
| 14:55.27 | netcurse | looks like we ll have to invest into a CDN |
| 14:55.32 | netcurse | we are caping 2 fibers.. |
| 14:56.19 | Elkano | but the page still loads ^^ |
| 14:56.35 | netcurse | the files are very slow |
| 15:03.46 | Gnarfoz | yeah, files are slow ;> |
| 15:03.48 | [Liquidor] | Heh this is too much fun |
| 15:03.51 | [Liquidor] | I can't even get the CC |
| 15:03.57 | netcurse | lol |
| 15:03.59 | Gnarfoz | but it's not down. |
| 15:04.09 | [Liquidor] | 9 kbs for downloading CC :) |
| 15:04.09 | netcurse | Liquidor i don't know what to tell you |
| 15:04.27 | netcurse | we invested 100k usd in hardware, the bandwitdh bill is probably going to be another 75k this month |
| 15:04.43 | netcurse | we are doing the traffic of IGN right now.. |
| 15:04.45 | Stanzilla | funny how the standard answer to "omg wau is dead" is "try wowmatrix" on many irc channels :P |
| 15:05.11 | netcurse | well wowmatrix won't be working |
| 15:05.13 | [Liquidor] | Same source init? |
| 15:05.13 | netcurse | right now |
| 15:05.18 | netcurse | :) |
| 15:05.19 | Repo | [WAR] 10doomstats: 03DooMHammeRchen * r19 DooMStats.lua: Set Timer to 1 second |
| 15:05.20 | sb | netcurse: whats the current bandwidth? :o |
| 15:05.33 | Stanzilla | blocked it? |
| 15:05.36 | Ackis | hey Elkano |
| 15:05.37 | netcurse | we are using more than 2 gb/s |
| 15:05.41 | netcurse | we can't block wowmatrix |
| 15:05.47 | netcurse | it's made to be a leecher |
| 15:05.53 | Ackis | is there a problem with the curse updater? |
| 15:05.55 | [Liquidor] | CC installed. Let's see if I can login this time. |
| 15:06.14 | netcurse | we are caped in bandwidh |
| 15:06.50 | [Liquidor] | Still cannot login. Awesome, no updater this patch. Sigh have to do it all manually -.- |
| 15:07.02 | netcurse | what is the error? |
| 15:07.10 | [Liquidor] | None |
| 15:07.55 | [Liquidor] | It's the same issue as last time I tested out CC. I'm at the 2nd biggest university of Denmark and none of us can use it :-/ |
| 15:08.02 | netcurse | ah |
| 15:09.06 | [Liquidor] | We can't connect. What port are we talking about here? |
| 15:10.02 | Gnarfoz | 80, I guess? |
| 15:10.28 | [Liquidor] | Well I have no clue when it comes to connection issues, so don't even know if it's a problem with the ports or whatever |
| 15:11.28 | [Liquidor] | netcurse, you should add in p2p to lower your bandwidth then :) |
| 15:11.33 | netcurse | port 80 yes |
| 15:19.31 | *** join/#curseforge Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-83-174.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:19.38 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: issue with that is unlike ISOs, what curse serves is a lot of small files |
| 15:23.05 | Pneumatus | yeh, lots of small files can end up causing more overhead than the actual data :< |
| 15:27.48 | *** join/#curseforge elite3vil (i=elite3vi@unaffiliated/elite3vil) |
| 15:35.03 | Repo | [WAR] 10ztweaks: 03zMod 04v0.1 Beta * r3 : Tagging as v0.1 Beta. |
| 15:36.05 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 15:36.19 | *** join/#curseforge lani_ (n=lani@DSL01.83.171.187.44.ip-pool.NEFkom.net) |
| 15:36.39 | Kaelten | sorry for the network outage, back up |
| 15:37.24 | Kaelten | the problem is any p2p application for addon updating would require a lot of specialized development |
| 15:39.06 | *** join/#curseforge Ominous (n=Ominous@144.173.243.46) |
| 15:47.30 | *** join/#curseforge Ominous_ (n=Ominous@144.173.243.46) |
| 15:50.29 | *** join/#curseforge Ominous (n=Ominous@144.173.243.46) |
| 15:51.11 | elite3vil | Have you hit 2gb/s yet? |
| 15:51.38 | elite3vil | or 2M page views/hour? |
| 15:52.10 | Kaelten | working on it ;) |
| 15:52.20 | Kaelten | I know we've broken 1.3 gb/s |
| 15:52.41 | elite3vil | Jesus, quit slacking already. =P |
| 15:52.47 | *** join/#curseforge vhaarr (n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr) |
| 15:53.17 | Kaelten | and the web nodes are handle much more *requests* than 2M/hr but includes a lot more than page views |
| 15:53.29 | elite3vil | Yeah |
| 15:53.54 | elite3vil | I'm avoiding my guild's vent, 'cause all I'll hear is whining. |
| 15:54.41 | Gnarfoz | elite3vil: <@netcurse> we are pushing more than 2gb/s |
| 15:55.12 | elite3vil | heh, nice. |
| 16:02.10 | Repo | [WoW] 10billifold: 03CrazyBenny * r11 Billifold.toc: bump toc for 3.0.2 |
| 16:04.57 | Repo | [WoW] 10billifold: 03CrazyBenny 041.3 * r12 : Tagging as 1.3. |
| 16:10.49 | netcurse | we are up to 1.4 millions pages views an hour |
| 16:11.23 | Kaelten | netcurse: nice |
| 16:11.41 | *** join/#curseforge Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 16:12.03 | *** join/#curseforge Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 16:12.03 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 16:12.08 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r197 / (2 files in 1 directory): move away from zip_data and use the repo's packager_metadata |
| 16:19.32 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r198 repository.py: bugfix |
| 16:25.31 | *** join/#curseforge charon (n=thomas@unaffiliated/charon) |
| 16:25.39 | charon | morning |
| 16:25.59 | ckknight | hey charon |
| 16:37.16 | *** join/#curseforge sztanpet (n=sztanpet@142.58ec54.tvnetwork.hu) |
| 16:38.04 | tasky^ | is there a way to force CC to refresh my addons list from my interface folder? |
| 16:39.58 | *** join/#curseforge Elsia (i=elsiarow@p57A26154.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:40.39 | sztanpet | restart it |
| 16:41.02 | tasky^ | that did _not_ work |
| 16:41.07 | tasky^ | i ended up reinstalling it |
| 16:41.38 | *** join/#curseforge MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 16:41.50 | sztanpet | you have addons that are not on curse then |
| 16:47.32 | tasky^ | thats retarded |
| 16:47.41 | tasky^ | it doesn't detect if i manually remove addons |
| 16:47.48 | tasky^ | nothing to do whether they are on curse or not |
| 16:47.51 | tasky^ | (which they are) |
| 16:48.11 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r199 main.py: bugfix |
| 16:48.24 | wallen | yeah tasky^ |
| 16:48.26 | wallen | that's a bit bad |
| 16:48.36 | tasky^ | and you'd think the 'refresh' button |
| 16:48.43 | tasky^ | would remove addons from the list that are no longer installed |
| 16:48.45 | tasky^ | but newp |
| 16:48.45 | wallen | delete wowaddons.log in C:\Documents and Settings\wallen\Local Settings\Application Data\CurseClient |
| 16:48.50 | wallen | then restart it |
| 16:48.55 | wallen | that's the only thing I've found working |
| 16:48.56 | tasky^ | i ended up reinstalling it |
| 16:48.58 | tasky^ | but good to know |
| 16:49.28 | wallen | even when you change the wow directory path, the client will just merge the addons of the two installations |
| 16:49.48 | tasky^ | it needs to rescan the directory imho |
| 16:49.51 | wallen | it won't show you just the addons that are targeted by the current installation |
| 16:49.57 | wallen | yeah, like wau did |
| 16:50.07 | tasky^ | well i used jwu |
| 16:50.11 | tasky^ | but same idea |
| 16:50.48 | tasky^ | argh |
| 16:50.57 | tasky^ | i could make a curse client so much better than the official one |
| 16:52.31 | charon | maybe you should |
| 16:54.59 | tasky^ | can't |
| 16:55.05 | tasky^ | would go against curse.com's TOS |
| 16:55.07 | tasky^ | i believe |
| 16:55.15 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r200 repository.py: bugfixing |
| 16:56.57 | ashb | hmmmm quartz not been updated for 3.0 |
| 17:17.39 | Gnarfoz | quartz has been working on beta for months |
| 17:17.52 | Gnarfoz | maybe some branch > trunk moving necessary? |
| 17:22.28 | Grum | atm i cant seem to update anything with CClient |
| 17:29.07 | ashb | where is the quartz SVN ? |
| 17:30.19 | Pneumatus | @project quartz |
| 17:30.20 | Repo | Pneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/projects/quartz/. Quartz. Game: WoW. Status: Stale. Leader: Nymbia. Updated: 11 hours ago. Tickets: 3/3 |
| 17:33.02 | Grum | seems curse is getting bashed harder and harder :P |
| 17:35.14 | ashb | yeah that lists something that doresn't work anymore |
| 17:35.59 | *** join/#curseforge MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 17:37.12 | starlon | @project combatalarm |
| 17:37.12 | Repo | starlon: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/combatalarm/. CombatAlarm. Game: WoW. Status: Stale. Leader: starlon. Updated: 10 hours ago |
| 17:39.22 | *** join/#curseforge netcurse (n=hthieblo@ATuileries-151-1-56-191.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:42.09 | Repo | [www] 10curseforge-packager: 03ckknight * r201 repository.py: bugfix |
| 17:49.50 | *** join/#curseforge Koskun (n=bob@adsl-99-156-30-123.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:50.57 | Ackis | zomg i'm getting an updated curseclient |
| 17:51.26 | Grum | .15? |
| 17:51.34 | Ackis | no idea |
| 17:52.35 | sb | .14 |
| 17:52.59 | dafire | http://blogs.activestate.com/activestate/2008/10/beta-baby.html -- komodo with git and hg support .) |
| 17:53.34 | Grum | atm Cartographer seems completely broken |
| 17:53.45 | Grum | getting flooded with errors from it :( |
| 17:53.58 | nevcairiel | thats what you get for using Carto |
| 17:56.10 | Ackis | it's going sloooooowww heh |
| 17:57.30 | Kody- | wtb more bandwidth :( |
| 17:57.33 | Kody- | 3gbps is capped |
| 18:04.30 | Zhinjio | G'morning, Ackis. |
| 18:07.31 | Stanzilla | eu servers down => more time for people to look for addons |
| 18:07.38 | Stanzilla | => wowace down :P |
| 18:08.17 | Ackis | heya Zhinjio |
| 18:09.17 | netcurse | WTF |
| 18:09.21 | netcurse | THIS IS MADNESS |
| 18:09.31 | netcurse | WE CAP 4 GB/s LOL |
| 18:14.27 | *** join/#curseforge mbp (n=mbp@smtp.flafgiraf.dk) |
| 18:22.41 | mbp | is the curse client for mac supposed to take ages "Doing login..." ? |
| 18:24.24 | mbp | ok, now it said "An unknown error occured" |
| 18:25.44 | Kody- | mbp: bandwidth issues |
| 18:26.15 | *** join/#curseforge Pazza_ (n=john@toffice.expresstaxrefund.com) |
| 18:29.36 | starlon | I totally wiped my addons and built it up by hand. I updated CC but it's still saying I have some of the addons that I got rid of. Is there any way to perform that initial scan again? |
| 18:33.45 | *** join/#curseforge Koskun (n=bob@adsl-99-156-30-123.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:34.12 | Kody- | starlon: Config -> Addon Settings -> check "Scan for Addons" (if unchecked), then restart the client |
| 18:34.16 | Kody- | Should do the initial scan again |
| 18:34.27 | Kody- | Kolie should put a scan button in the client IMO :) |
| 18:34.39 | starlon | Yeah it was already checked. I'm shutting it down and restarting it. |
| 18:34.49 | Koskun | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.01 | Koskun | sorry, my cat decided the keyboard was a runway |
| 18:35.23 | starlon | He's trying to communicate. |
| 18:35.45 | Shefki | Some reason you can't log into CC atm? |
| 18:35.54 | Shefki | It just sits there at the login page. |
| 18:35.54 | Kody- | Shefki: running low on bandwidth ;/ |
| 18:35.59 | Kody- | Using up 3gbps right now |
| 18:36.07 | Shefki | Gotcha. |
| 18:36.24 | *** join/#curseforge netcurse (n=hthieblo@APuteaux-755-1-21-80.w90-61.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:36.25 | Koskun | wowinterface is boom too |
| 18:36.42 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o netcurse] by ChanServ |
| 18:36.47 | Shefki | I noticed. |
| 18:36.51 | netcurse | yo |
| 18:37.35 | *** join/#curseforge GollyGosh (n=chatzill@dslb-088-074-024-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:37.54 | Kody- | hello netcurse |
| 18:38.00 | Ackis | heya neta |
| 18:38.02 | Ackis | errr net |
| 18:41.18 | Kody- | starlon: did restarting the client do the trick? |
| 18:41.28 | starlon | I haven't been able to log in :) |
| 18:41.31 | Kody- | doh |
| 18:41.58 | ashb | hmmm SharedMedia work or not (its not been updated) |
| 18:42.40 | starlon | http://www.wowace.com/projects/libsharedmedia-3-0/ |
| 18:43.11 | Gnarfoz | netcurse: is that gbit/s or gbyte/s |
| 18:43.42 | ckknight | gbit |
| 18:44.25 | ashb | starlon: is that not actualy the lib that you'd embed in another addon, not the shared media itself? |
| 18:45.12 | Gnarfoz | correct, that's the lib, you don't need that. |
| 18:45.12 | ashb | also - carto from wow.curse has all the sub modules as Out of Date |
| 18:45.52 | ckknight | ashb: yea... |
| 18:47.21 | Repo | [WoW] 10random_companion: 03Kelsin * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): Initial Commit |
| 18:47.29 | Kody- | wtf |
| 18:47.39 | Kody- | I'm running Vista, and have found that my add-ons are not in my "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns" folder, but in "C:\users\XXXusernameXXX\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns" |
| 18:47.49 | Kody- | is that because of 3.0.2? |
| 18:48.21 | Stanzilla | wtf |
| 18:48.45 | ckknight | Kody-: it's because of vista |
| 18:48.55 | starlon | 3.0.2 wanted me to move WoW from C:\Program Files |
| 18:49.00 | Kody- | I know it's because of Vista, but is that a recent change? |
| 18:49.07 | Kody- | My addons are in my wow folder on Vista at home |
| 18:49.13 | ckknight | no, been around for quite a few patches |
| 18:49.20 | *** join/#curseforge fseebach (n=fseebach@dslb-088-065-201-036.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:49.50 | starlon | Kody-: I just logged in. No, it didn't scan. |
| 18:50.16 | Kody- | Hrm |
| 18:50.17 | Ackis | i don't know hwat happened but i'm running 0.13 and it's installing addons correctly |
| 18:50.19 | Kody- | Do you have WoW open? |
| 18:50.27 | starlon | Yes |
| 18:50.31 | Kody- | That's why |
| 18:50.35 | Grum | Anyone who has a working outfitter? |
| 18:50.46 | Kody- | It doesn't scan your addons while WoW is open |
| 18:51.08 | starlon | There we go. |
| 18:51.12 | Kody- | Kolie would have to give the reasoning behind that because I'm not sure :) |
| 18:51.22 | Koskun | I have a working ClosetGnome |
| 18:51.22 | starlon | Heh |
| 18:53.54 | netcurse | yo |
| 18:54.08 | ashb | carto has no options |
| 18:55.11 | kolie | It wont scan your addons because if it installs or changes addons while wow is running, then it can screw up wow. |
| 18:55.43 | ashb | ummm. i was under the impression that wow explicty *didn't* read the addons folders unless you do a /rl |
| 18:56.06 | kolie | It does something. Authors complained, particularly QH, and I changed it. |
| 18:56.46 | ashb | what 'something'? I manually update addons while wow is running all the time... |
| 18:56.52 | ashb | (just curious) |
| 18:57.11 | kolie | It caused QH to error out on everyones machine that did it. |
| 18:57.27 | Shefki | Archive: LibGuildPositions-1.0-WoW-3.0-release.zip |
| 18:57.27 | Shefki | warning [LibGuildPositions-1.0-WoW-3.0-release.zip]: 1 extra byte at beginning or within zipfile |
| 18:57.35 | ashb | can't say it happened to me |
| 18:57.38 | Shefki | ^ Fixing that will save you some bandwidth. |
| 18:57.46 | Shefki | That extra byte makes curse client not able to extract it. |
| 18:58.06 | Shefki | So it keeps downloading it and downloading it. |
| 18:58.20 | Shefki | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/libguildpositions-1-0.aspx |
| 19:08.52 | fseebach | Hi |
| 19:09.08 | fseebach | first of all thanks for working on a client for osx |
| 19:09.39 | fseebach | i just downloaded the pre beta 2.0.0.15 and tried it a little bit. |
| 19:10.28 | fseebach | what i now get is an error when i try to set the wow directory. it says that it could not find the wow.exe. hmm thats right. its a mac version of wow ;-) |
| 19:10.53 | Kody- | fseebach: no worries there; it says that but it actually detects it properly :) |
| 19:11.17 | fseebach | is this something that is proventing me of updating my addons? because when i scan for addons it doesnt display anything |
| 19:11.29 | Kody- | Are you running WoW while attempting to scan? |
| 19:11.37 | fseebach | no |
| 19:11.49 | Kody- | Hmm, will tell Kolie to check IRC |
| 19:11.57 | *** join/#curseforge Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-167-195-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:12.13 | Zhinjio | G'morning, Antiarc |
| 19:12.25 | netcurse | i just had the IM of death |
| 19:12.30 | netcurse | from our hoster |
| 19:12.54 | netcurse | Ok,, you guys are gonna have a massive bill |
| 19:12.57 | *** join/#curseforge Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 19:12.58 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Dashkal] by ChanServ |
| 19:13.12 | Dashkal | Mwrarf |
| 19:13.44 | Zhinjio | does that mean you just had a b/w cap upped? |
| 19:14.12 | *** join/#curseforge Antiarc1 (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-167-195-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:14.39 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Zhinjio] by ChanServ |
| 19:14.53 | kolie | fseebach, just hit ok. |
| 19:15.03 | kolie | Or the one that says set it anyways. |
| 19:15.59 | *** join/#curseforge TheDeamon (i=TheDeamo@69-20-145-84.static.ida.net) |
| 19:16.01 | fseebach | i did this. after restarting the client, what i just did, it looks a little bit better |
| 19:19.00 | *** join/#curseforge Throngy (n=nn@5ad2ab23.bb.sky.com) |
| 19:20.03 | *** join/#curseforge Tinyboom (n=nahh@163.80-202-155.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:21.33 | fseebach | now it scans my addons and it looks like that it is updating them. |
| 19:24.39 | fseebach | ok, i will play around a little bit with the client and give you update about the progress i made. thx again for thinking about us mac lovers :-D |
| 19:25.19 | fseebach | bye |
| 19:25.33 | *** join/#curseforge Antiarc1 (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-167-195-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:26.19 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki * r236 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:26.20 | Repo | - Hopefully avoid an issue where token update events happen before |
| 19:26.21 | Repo | variables are loaded. |
| 19:27.52 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki * r237 Changelog.txt: |
| 19:27.53 | Repo | - Update changelog for release, remove the beta that didn't belong on last release. |
| 19:29.28 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki * r238 Changelog.txt: - Helps to use the right date in the Changelog. |
| 19:30.21 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki 0420081015-239 * r239 : - Tag 20081015-239 for release. |
| 19:30.40 | Repo | [WAR] 10miniworldmap: 03silverq * r8 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added /miniworldmap <layer> |
| 19:31.27 | Repo | [WAR] 10miniworldmap: 03silverq 041.2 * r9 : Tagging as 1.2 |
| 19:37.48 | sztanpet | pitbull doesnt trigger tooltips :( |
| 19:38.16 | Shefki | sztanpet: Not a pitbull issue. Some other mod is breaking your tooltips. |
| 19:38.33 | sztanpet | cowtip? |
| 19:38.42 | Shefki | Could be. |
| 19:39.24 | ckknight | try without CowTip |
| 19:40.56 | Repo | [WAR] 10libgui: 03Aiiane * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag Beta-3 for changeset 50a12c0f04ca |
| 19:40.59 | Repo | I've got a great idea... let's not cause naming collisions with ourself. ;_; |
| 19:42.11 | Shefki | ckknight: Did you see about the corrupted zip file above? |
| 19:42.16 | ckknight | no |
| 19:42.25 | Shefki | LibGuildPositions-1.0 has a corrupted zip file. |
| 19:42.29 | Shefki | Some zip programs will expand it. |
| 19:42.36 | Shefki | But CurseClient definately won't. |
| 19:42.41 | Shefki | So it keeps downloading it. |
| 19:42.59 | Shefki | infozip says the file has an extra byte at the start of the file. |
| 19:43.19 | Shefki | Fixing that could save you some bandwidth. |
| 19:46.18 | Shefki | kolie: Right clicking on something in the mac curse client brings up the context menu, but then it puts it into a selection mode. |
| 19:46.30 | Shefki | So you have to click again so moving your mouse isn't selecting addons. |
| 19:46.31 | kolie | Thats why it does that. |
| 19:47.12 | Shefki | ? |
| 19:49.48 | sztanpet | oh btw disabling cowtip solves it |
| 19:50.34 | Stanzilla | cowtip has some problems |
| 19:53.29 | Repo | [WoW] 10hgscontinued: 03buzzibaer * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): TOC und Version update |
| 19:56.09 | wallen | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ECfZk-ZiCtA |
| 20:00.57 | Repo | [WoW] 10whisper-loot-continued: 03Natherul * r2 / (8 files in 1 directory): commit to repository |
| 20:03.13 | Kody- | woo |
| 20:03.17 | Kody- | client mirror on fileplanet: http://www.fileplanet.com/193018/190000/fileinfo/Curse-Client |
| 20:09.12 | *** join/#curseforge Fogger (n=rendermi@host81-132-167-179.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:09.19 | Shefki | kolie: So were you saying that issue was intentional? |
| 20:09.42 | Koskun | ckknight: what's the latest version of Chinchilla? |
| 20:10.18 | ckknight | Koskun: check on wowace |
| 20:10.54 | Fogger | anyone know how I can reset the addons list in CC, it shows all my old addons as installed, but I wiped the whole dir :\ |
| 20:10.57 | kolie | No, I was saing I say it do that. |
| 20:11.07 | kolie | Fogger, right click uninstall them |
| 20:11.14 | Koskun | ck: Will when it comes back up.. :P |
| 20:11.28 | Fogger | damn, I hhad a _lot_ of addons installed. |
| 20:11.53 | Fogger | ah nvm, grp-select. |
| 20:11.54 | kolie | select them all |
| 20:11.59 | Kody- | Fogger: you can also yeah :) |
| 20:14.33 | Fogger | sorted, thanks dudes |
| 20:16.44 | Shefki | kolie: Is there a reason for that behavior then or is it a bug? Because it seems wrong to me. |
| 20:16.52 | Arrowmaster | so whats with curse? |
| 20:17.04 | Arrowmaster | bandwidth or server issue? |
| 20:17.12 | Shefki | Probably bandwidth. |
| 20:17.24 | Arrowmaster | they have 4gigbit/s now though |
| 20:17.40 | Shefki | They were pushing 3.3 not long ago or something like that. |
| 20:18.28 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 20:19.06 | Repo | [WoW] 10notsimplecombatlog: 03sag_ich_nicht 04v1.0.0.2 * r10 : NotSimpleCombatLog: |
| 20:19.07 | Repo | - Appears to be working fine in 3.0.2, tag for release. |
| 20:19.11 | Shefki | 11:35 <@!Kody-> Using up 3gbps right now |
| 20:19.17 | Shefki | No idea where I got the .3 |
| 20:19.22 | Shefki | But yeah still. |
| 20:19.28 | Kody- | Yeah it's 1gbps for web, 3gbps for media |
| 20:19.32 | Arrowmaster | 02:08:37p (netcurse) WTF |
| 20:19.33 | Arrowmaster | 02:08:40p (netcurse) THIS IS MADNESS |
| 20:19.33 | Arrowmaster | 02:08:50p (netcurse) WE CAP 4 GB/s LOL |
| 20:19.40 | Zhinjio | "Official Curse Client Page" 404's on curse |
| 20:20.03 | Kody- | whoa wtf |
| 20:20.04 | Kody- | the site broke my URL somehow |
| 20:20.04 | Zhinjio | it links to "http://www.curse.com/articles/client" from the "Curse Client Mirror Now Available" article. |
| 20:20.23 | Shefki | Not gonna lie, I'm reloading pages on curse a lot trying to help users. |
| 20:20.27 | Kody- | Fixed |
| 20:20.48 | Zhinjio | is 2.0.0.14 current? |
| 20:20.51 | Zhinjio | (for win) |
| 20:21.08 | Kody- | Zhinjio: thanks for noticing that, forgot it strips the base URL so that the URL keeps people on the portal they |
| 20:21.12 | Kody- | err, they're browsing |
| 20:21.20 | Zhinjio | no problem, happy to help. |
| 20:21.36 | Kody- | And yeah, 2.0.0.14 is the latest Windows build |
| 20:21.56 | SNiLD | Kody-: don't you just hate when ' is so close to return? ;) |
| 20:22.29 | Kody- | Yes :P |
| 20:25.36 | Zhinjio | IN the "What do wwe collect" part of the FAQ, is "are even recorded" a typo of "are ever recorded"? |
| 20:25.41 | Zhinjio | or is that intentional? |
| 20:26.42 | Kody- | Probably intentional, but ever does make sense there |
| 20:26.46 | Kody- | more sense, rather |
| 20:26.49 | Kody- | Changing |
| 20:27.59 | Zhinjio | bah, server isn't reachable now. |
| 20:28.14 | Zhinjio | I was right in the middle of a download of the client too. |
| 20:29.14 | elite3vil | If you don't want to wait for Curse. =P |
| 20:29.27 | netcurse | try again |
| 20:30.03 | elite3vil | needs moar bandwidth. |
| 20:31.16 | Zhinjio | kolie: message on first startup of curse client: "This appears to the first time to run the Curse Client. Would you like it to scan your game folder(s) for add ons? This will not alter you addons," |
| 20:31.31 | Arrowmaster | MOAR BANDWIDTH |
| 20:31.58 | Zhinjio | "your" addons, rather. Anyway: First sentence isn't grammatically correct, and trialing comma |
| 20:32.02 | elite3vil | Zhinjio: I remember someone (I think Kolie) saying to start with an empty Addons folder for best results. |
| 20:32.37 | Zhinjio | I did, thanks. |
| 20:32.54 | Zhinjio | just pointing out corrections in the text of the message is all. |
| 20:37.00 | kolie | Looks already fixed in my local copy. |
| 20:37.56 | *** join/#curseforge p3lim (n=p3lim@212251216176.customer.cdi.no) |
| 20:38.17 | Zhinjio | kolie: can the "View Addon Details" open a targetted page in the browser so it uses the same window every time? or is it intentional? |
| 20:38.19 | Zhinjio | er, "See Addon Details", rather |
| 20:39.14 | Zhinjio | and if I remember conversation from earlier, having "beta" versions appear in the client currently isn't supported. Is this correct? |
| 20:40.01 | kolie | Targetted page in the browser? |
| 20:40.14 | kolie | Beta versions are supported. |
| 20:40.22 | kolie | The client understands release/beta |
| 20:40.30 | kolie | it understands alpha as well, but the addon service doesnt. |
| 20:40.32 | Zhinjio | meaning open a window with "target=x" |
| 20:40.35 | Zhinjio | ok. |
| 20:40.44 | kolie | target=x? |
| 20:40.44 | Zhinjio | maybe I just need to restart it. trying now |
| 20:40.55 | Zhinjio | lemme back up |
| 20:41.16 | Zhinjio | when you programmatically open a browser window, you can specify a target if you like |
| 20:41.27 | Zhinjio | that way you can force it to open a specific window instead of just blindly opening a new tab |
| 20:41.44 | Zhinjio | right now, it opens a new tab for every single addon I hit "See Addon Details" for |
| 20:41.58 | Zhinjio | I wanted to know if this was by design or not |
| 20:42.04 | kolie | ::wxLaunchDefaultBrowser(link); is the extent of that code. |
| 20:42.16 | Zhinjio | ok. |
| 20:42.45 | Zhinjio | so its not necessarily by design, but per limitation of the calling routine. Thats fine. Just wanted to know. |
| 20:43.40 | Zhinjio | if I get really grumpy about it, I'll submit it as a feature request |
| 20:44.01 | *** join/#curseforge Movix (n=mattes@82.242.144.196) |
| 20:44.24 | kolie | http://docs.wxwidgets.org/stable/wx_miscellany.html#wxlaunchdefaultbrowser |
| 20:45.06 | Movix | i wonder how it is possible that GroupCalendar is a similar addon to GuildEventManager and the inverse is not given ;-) nothing important, just noticed that |
| 20:45.57 | Zhinjio | ah, interesting. it looks like the flags parameter might support what I want. |
| 20:46.00 | Zhinjio | anyway. |
| 20:46.03 | Zhinjio | um, what was ... oh, right |
| 20:46.13 | Zhinjio | so I have "Beta" selected in preferences |
| 20:46.22 | Zhinjio | there is a beta release of outfitter shown on curse.com |
| 20:46.33 | Zhinjio | the version displayed in the curse client remains "4.2.6" |
| 20:46.50 | kolie | Find an Addon? |
| 20:46.53 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 20:46.55 | kolie | Did you get list? |
| 20:47.12 | Zhinjio | do I have to refresh that if I change the preferences? I suppsoe so, eh? |
| 20:47.44 | kolie | The list is cached. |
| 20:47.56 | Zhinjio | maybe the client could suggest that get list (I wouldn't do it automatically) if you change that preference? |
| 20:48.01 | Zhinjio | that you get list |
| 20:48.09 | kolie | I suppose it could. |
| 20:48.22 | Zhinjio | since it almost certainly makes your list invalid |
| 20:48.24 | Zhinjio | (cached) |
| 20:48.39 | kolie | :) its just display. |
| 20:48.45 | Zhinjio | *nods* |
| 20:49.16 | Zhinjio | just trying to help. If you'd rather I just submit tickets, I can do that. |
| 20:49.57 | kolie | That one I would ticket definatly. |
| 20:50.08 | kolie | I will get around to it. |
| 20:50.42 | Zhinjio | ok, I changed the preference. I did "Get List" |
| 20:50.52 | Zhinjio | the version displayed in the client is still "4.2.6" which is release |
| 20:50.58 | Zhinjio | 4.3b6 is beta |
| 20:51.00 | Zhinjio | and not displayed |
| 20:51.27 | Zhinjio | it *does* show the latest version date correctly! |
| 20:51.46 | Grum | Outfitter is broken beyond use :'( |
| 20:51.47 | Zhinjio | should I just try and install and see which version I get? |
| 20:51.53 | Grum | even that latest version |
| 20:51.57 | Zhinjio | Grum: beta version? ok. |
| 20:52.18 | Zhinjio | any of that type of mod working yet? Itemrack or closetgnome? |
| 20:52.30 | Zhinjio | or maybe I'll just wait. |
| 20:52.31 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 20:52.45 | Grum | Closetgnome should be ok |
| 20:53.32 | Zhinjio | roger that, thanks. |
| 20:54.32 | Movix | i don't know how the tags of addons are working, any can give me a hint please ? |
| 20:54.58 | Movix | tags within curse addon pages |
| 20:55.23 | Movix | i found nothing to define tags in the forge pages |
| 21:01.15 | Repo | [WoW] 10portalfu: 03CrazyBenny * r17 / (2 files in 1 directory): bump toc for 3.0.2 |
| 21:01.26 | Repo | [WoW] 10curse-profiler-2: 03ckknight 07master * v36-1-gd67dbec CurseProfiler.toc: [+1 commit] update TOC to 3.0 |
| 21:01.29 | Repo | [WoW] 10curse-profiler-2: 03ckknight 04v37 * db66093 /: [new tag] update TOC to 3.0 |
| 21:01.49 | ckknight | Movix: it's handled on curse.com, I beieve |
| 21:01.59 | Repo | [WoW] 10portalfu: 03CrazyBenny 041.3 * r18 : Tagging as 1.3. |
| 21:02.43 | Movix | ah ok, so no way to interact with it as an author ? |
| 21:02.51 | Repo | [WoW] 10noble: 03CrazyBenny 041.1 * r8 : Tagging as 1.1. |
| 21:04.21 | ckknight | Movix: currently broken |
| 21:04.26 | ckknight | it'll be fixed within a week |
| 21:04.36 | Movix | k, thx for the reply |
| 21:26.22 | *** join/#curseforge Tuller (n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:34.29 | *** join/#curseforge avalchfan (n=avalchfa@pdpc/supporter/active/Avalchfan) |
| 21:39.14 | Repo | [WoW] 10alar-art-remover: 03alar * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): Repackaged to include update libraries |
| 21:42.09 | *** join/#curseforge Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 21:43.31 | Repo | [WoW] 10alar-bghelper: 03alar * r21 / (2 files in 1 directory): Repackaging to catch new libraries |
| 21:52.12 | *** join/#curseforge Repo_ (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 21:52.19 | *** join/#curseforge Zhinjio (i=1000@70.91.168.58) |
| 21:52.19 | *** mode/#curseforge [+v Zhinjio] by ChanServ |
| 22:03.55 | *** join/#curseforge avalchfan_ (n=avalchfa@dsl093-038-041.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 22:04.28 | Shefki | ckknight: Thanks for fixing the LibGuildPosition zip. |
| 22:05.55 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 22:06.15 | *** join/#curseforge Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 22:06.44 | Grum | guess i need to reinstall my addons again tomorrow :( |
| 22:06.49 | Grum | not looking good after today |
| 22:09.04 | Repo | [WoW] 10zdkp: 03Ziggedy * r8 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:09.05 | Repo | Changed all mention of this to self, I may have to do a finer pass as sometimes this was just a filler word and I'm worried some functions may not be using it properly. |
| 22:09.06 | Repo | Xml: |
| 22:09.08 | Repo | Changed SetTexture to incude the extra bool it now requires (i believe) |
| 22:09.12 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki * r240 TBagItemInfo.lua: - Fix for MergeReagents error. |
| 22:10.12 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki * r241 Changelog.txt: - Update Changelog.txt for release. |
| 22:10.46 | Repo | [WoW] 10tbag-shefki: 03Shefki 0420081015-242 * r242 : - Tag 20081015-242 for release. |
| 22:17.10 | *** join/#curseforge [Liquidor] (n=denras19@fw-tk-1.ruc.dk) |
| 22:18.30 | *** join/#curseforge quoin (n=quoin@122-49-170-101.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 22:21.50 | *** join/#curseforge chrixian (n=chatzill@71-8-120-151.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:33.35 | *** join/#curseforge OsirisT (n=rorwesse@pool-71-96-81-23.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 22:33.56 | OsirisT | hello |
| 22:34.10 | OsirisT | anyone here that is working on the Mac curse client? |
| 22:35.04 | Justin__ | not working on it, but using it :) |
| 22:35.51 | OsirisT | what version/ |
| 22:36.20 | OsirisT | I have .13 and it will not install or update to the newest version of a mod even though it is shown in the list |
| 22:36.49 | OsirisT | and I can not find where you can change it to allow alpha and beta versions of mods |
| 22:37.11 | Shefki | OsirisT: http://static.curseforge.net/uploads/18/297/253/Curse%20Client%20Beta%20Mac%202.0.0.15.dmg |
| 22:37.24 | Shefki | .13 doesn't have that feature. |
| 22:37.25 | OsirisT | ahh, fantastic |
| 22:38.15 | ckknight | OsirisT: I'm helping teh Kolie with it |
| 22:38.20 | ckknight | not really, though |
| 22:38.24 | ckknight | I just wrote an updater script |
| 22:38.27 | OsirisT | just delete my old updater and curse client files from applications folder and replace with these? do I need to clear any /plist or preference files? |
| 22:38.38 | ckknight | don't think s |
| 22:38.39 | ckknight | so* |
| 22:38.56 | *** join/#curseforge vulture (n=vulture@12-202-152-146.client.mchsi.com) |
| 22:39.03 | OsirisT | this is THE ckknight? |
| 22:39.11 | ckknight | the one and only |
| 22:39.31 | OsirisT | ZOMG I love your mods |
| 22:39.39 | ckknight | good times |
| 22:39.41 | Dashkal | awww, you have a fan :p |
| 22:40.59 | OsirisT | I just appreciate good work |
| 22:41.01 | OsirisT | :-) |
| 22:41.54 | OsirisT | ok the .15 file does not have the updater, do I need to keep the old one or get rid of it.. was it now baked into the app? |
| 22:41.59 | Dashkal | Don't mind me. I just giving him a hard time. Quite a bit of my UI has his code in it |
| 22:42.26 | Shefki | OsirisT: You can delete the Updater program from /Applications. |
| 22:42.37 | Shefki | OsirisT: Other than that just drag Curse Client into Applications. |
| 22:42.54 | avalchfan_ | What is weird, is I have had .15 running for about an hour, and just now, it is finding my installed addons. Not sure why it didn't find them an hour ago... |
| 22:43.09 | Shefki | avalchfan_: Had WoW running perhaps? |
| 22:43.10 | OsirisT | it is sneaky? |
| 22:43.18 | Shefki | Or did you just install it? |
| 22:43.21 | avalchfan_ | Wow wasn't running.. |
| 22:43.28 | avalchfan_ | Installed it an hour ago or so. |
| 22:43.43 | avalchfan_ | just had a popup come up. I'll play and update my comment on the project page.. |
| 22:43.47 | Shefki | avalchfan_: AFter the first scan it only updates addons that are updated from when you install it. |
| 22:43.55 | Shefki | Unless you reinstall everything or click Update on everything. |
| 22:44.03 | Shefki | Becuase it has no way of knowing what version you have. |
| 22:44.07 | kolie | OsirisT: .15 wasnt a release beta release. |
| 22:44.10 | Shefki | Since CC works off timestamps. |
| 22:44.17 | kolie | It was more off someone aske what I was working on an hit f5 |
| 22:44.22 | Kody- | avalchfan: that's the hourly check to see if there are updates available |
| 22:44.26 | kolie | which is why it looks for exe stuff, I was mostly doing windows stuff. |
| 22:44.26 | avalchfan_ | hmm. I haven't done anything with addons. |
| 22:44.27 | avalchfan_ | ok |
| 22:44.35 | avalchfan_ | thanks |
| 22:46.14 | *** part/#curseforge chrixian (n=chatzill@71-8-120-151.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 22:47.10 | OsirisT | how odd, now it just shows the list of add-ons available for download, but does not even show the list of installed add-on's or the switch to see the list of installed add-ons.. do I need to change the preference file to make it think it is a new install so it will search my add-ons folder? |
| 22:48.52 | Shefki | ckknight: How useable is Cart3 atm? |
| 22:48.59 | ckknight | reasonably |
| 22:50.24 | OsirisT | so cart or cart3? |
| 22:50.35 | *** part/#curseforge dafire (n=warlock@dslb-088-070-055-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:51.43 | *** join/#curseforge ZealotOnAStick (n=ZOAS@WoWUIDev/CurseStaff/EvilQA/ZealotOnAStick) |
| 22:51.49 | OsirisT | curse profiler v2 was showing as an out of date mod still last night. |
| 22:51.54 | OsirisT | has that been fixed? |
| 22:52.20 | Zhinjio | kolie: when your search text has no matches, the last search that still worked appears to still be displayed |
| 22:52.25 | OsirisT | and the last time I downloaded cart using the wowaceupdater for mac it downloaded a good deal of the other parts too it. now it does not? |
| 22:52.27 | Zhinjio | in find an addon |
| 22:52.33 | ckknight | OsirisT: I think I fixed that |
| 22:53.39 | OsirisT | Since I deleteed all my mods last night so that I could start fresh with the new updater, what packages for things like X-Perl would you recommend? |
| 22:53.50 | OsirisT | and cartographer |
| 22:53.51 | Pneumatus | cart2 definatly appears to still have issues |
| 22:54.39 | OsirisT | and yes I got that annoyed with it not updateing.. little did I know it was curse client that was foiling me.. but so far .15 is working |
| 22:55.01 | Zhinjio | nm, I'll just start ticketing stuff |
| 22:56.17 | Shefki | ckknight: Interface\AddOns\Cartographer3\Main.lua:2286: attempt to call global 'InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame' (a nil value) |
| 22:56.21 | Shefki | ckknight: oops. :( |
| 22:56.27 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:56.33 | ckknight | I think they changed it to OpenToCategory |
| 22:56.39 | ckknight | or something |
| 22:56.52 | Shefki | And: CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node "InterfaceOptionsSliderTemplate" |
| 22:57.05 | Shefki | Which is just OptionsSliderTemplate now I believe. |
| 22:57.23 | kolie | Zhinjio: Prime ticket candidate. |
| 22:57.30 | Zhinjio | adding now. |
| 22:58.40 | Zhinjio | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client/tickets/813-search-failure-still-displays-dead-items/ |
| 22:59.39 | Zhinjio | when I exited wow, the little CC box just popped up showing "Error reported from dll" |
| 22:59.46 | Zhinjio | ?? |
| 23:07.28 | ckknight | odd |
| 23:07.42 | ckknight | so, I'm contemplating getting a 15" MacBook Pro instead of waiting for the 17" |
| 23:08.00 | ckknight | I have a 15" now, and it's suited me well |
| 23:08.31 | Shefki | ckknight: Need to tag LibSimpleOptions-1-0 so it'll be release and will syndicate to curse. |
| 23:10.44 | ckknight | done, Shefki |
| 23:11.59 | *** join/#curseforge netcurse (n=hthieblo@81-67-28-118.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 23:12.08 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o netcurse] by ChanServ |
| 23:12.14 | *** join/#curseforge Undine (i=shamus@92-238-208-134.cable.ubr09.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:12.14 | Shefki | And you probably need to do the s/Frame/Category/ thing for Catographer3 itself. |
| 23:12.20 | Kody- | Zhinjio: related to WOWDB; the dll isn't updated for 3.0.2 yet |
| 23:12.26 | Kody- | Shouldn't cause any issues with Addon management |
| 23:12.28 | Shefki | I'm not sure if it's done don't have a git install handy atm. |
| 23:12.58 | Shefki | I'm guessing not since the latest file is a release from yesterday and that's what I just installed. |
| 23:14.38 | *** join/#curseforge TealC (n=rorwesse@pool-71-96-81-23.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:15.30 | OsirisT | well there are parts of mods now shown in my addons list in wow that are red but not out of date. X-Perl has a few |
| 23:15.39 | OsirisT | are these dependency issues? |
| 23:15.49 | OsirisT | and yeah, x-perl is whacked right now |
| 23:16.00 | Zeksie | it's LOD modules |
| 23:16.13 | Zeksie | x-perl is fine. |
| 23:16.23 | Zeksie | if you got the 3.0.0i version |
| 23:16.38 | Zeksie | or h.. whatever |
| 23:18.11 | Undine | is there some way to get these lod mods working ? |
| 23:22.08 | OsirisT | I keep getting a problem with a nil value, and it shows where the DK should be in the list for the unit frames, but it does not show the class name, it is just blank and this is causing he nill value error.. also can not click off a buff with X-Perl now. |
| 23:22.22 | OsirisT | I am removing and re-installing the mod to test again.. |
| 23:22.41 | Zeksie | tested the click off thing not 2 days ago.. i'll recheck it. |
| 23:22.46 | OsirisT | Undine did you set curse client to download beta or alpha mods? |
| 23:23.04 | Undine | not yet |
| 23:23.24 | OsirisT | if you want it to update to the lastest version listed in the list, you have to enable alpha mods |
| 23:23.29 | OsirisT | but there is a risk |
| 23:23.34 | OsirisT | you will get the bleeding edge |
| 23:24.06 | OsirisT | Also who make Decursive? it still shows as an out of date mod |
| 23:24.27 | *** join/#curseforge Kolie (n=kraft@c-68-62-217-183.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 23:24.27 | *** mode/#curseforge [+o Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 23:26.01 | OsirisT | X-Perl 3.0.0i is the only one I see via the curse client |
| 23:26.15 | Zeksie | yeh, that's the one i put up today. |
| 23:26.25 | netcurse | hey folks |
| 23:26.31 | Zeksie | wil check out the other problems. but that's only with 1 frame right? |
| 23:26.40 | Zeksie | someone else mentioned it wsa only raid group 9 or osmething |
| 23:27.10 | OsirisT | 10 and it has no label and throws a bunch of /nill errors |
| 23:27.34 | OsirisT | but please know, I love X-Perl |
| 23:27.49 | OsirisT | and I almost can not play the game anymore without it |
| 23:27.54 | *** join/#curseforge Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 23:28.03 | Zeksie | ok, but you know you can turn off that group in options? |
| 23:28.08 | Zeksie | just for now |
| 23:28.28 | OsirisT | I did, but it still shows errors.. I suppose I could turn off lua errors |
| 23:28.51 | OsirisT | and I wanted to make sure someone knew about the right click on buffs too |
| 23:29.26 | *** join/#curseforge KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@unaffiliated/krill3) |
| 23:29.31 | Zeksie | i don't use hte player buffs myself, so may have missed it when it broke. :| |
| 23:29.51 | OsirisT | that's cool |
| 23:30.39 | ashb | so anyone else suddenly got spanish realm in their BGs? |
| 23:31.00 | *** join/#curseforge MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 23:31.16 | OsirisT | no, but my partner is having difficulty accessing his character right now.. saying world server down, AGAIN |
| 23:31.45 | Justin__ | my realm is completely down, im having deja vu from last night |
| 23:32.02 | ashb | also new pitbull has its layer wrong |
| 23:32.12 | ashb | party and raid frames show up infront of UI thinkgs like honor tab |
| 23:33.26 | OsirisT | lets all give the devs here a big hug.. they don't get paid for this and they still talk to us.. |
| 23:34.46 | Zeksie | ok.. now can someone tell me where The Hidden Reef is on Bloodmyst Isle... this is driving me nuts :) |
| 23:35.17 | OsirisT | don't remember the coordinates |
| 23:35.35 | Zeksie | just a vague idea would be great ;) |
| 23:39.04 | Zeksie | got it. |
| 23:40.00 | OsirisT | sorry it took me a while to figure out this new cartographer |
| 23:40.14 | OsirisT | very different. |
| 23:40.39 | OsirisT | how do I capture errors in WoW and send them to you guys here? |
| 23:43.21 | OsirisT | Interface\addons\xperl_raidframes\xperl_raid.lua:2065: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 23:43.26 | OsirisT | hope that helps |
| 23:43.29 | Zeksie | thx |
| 23:43.44 | OsirisT | had to type that all in by hand |
| 23:44.58 | Zeksie | heh. get an error mod :) |
| 23:45.21 | OsirisT | I should, know a good one? |
| 23:45.36 | OsirisT | same as above BTW but 1620 |
| 23:45.51 | OsirisT | and got a different on when I was in the X-Perl preferences panel |
| 23:47.06 | OsirisT | wait a minute.. this is not I even though it said that was what I downloaded via the curse client. this is H r192 |
| 23:47.15 | OsirisT | that may explain some things |
| 23:47.57 | OsirisT | the list on curse says I but that is NOT what it is downloading |
| 23:48.12 | OsirisT | and yeah, I have alpha turned on |
| 23:48.13 | ashb | anyone else think ret pally is way imba right now |
| 23:48.20 | OsirisT | Nope |
| 23:49.11 | netcurse | 26 millons pages views today |
| 23:49.16 | netcurse | -_ |
| 23:49.20 | netcurse | millions* |
| 23:49.29 | OsirisT | are you NET on the forums? |
| 23:49.43 | netcurse | yes |
| 23:49.48 | netcurse | how can i help you |
| 23:49.59 | Hjalte | Kolie: Hi. If I uninstall CC, will it then also "forget" what addons I have installed? |
| 23:50.10 | OsirisT | ahh, you replied to one of my posts.. not one of my better ones I must say.. I was unfortunately very peeved that day |
| 23:50.20 | netcurse | np ;) |
| 23:50.30 | OsirisT | so are all names from curse registered in NickServ here? |
| 23:50.51 | OsirisT | it said my name was registered but I can not imagine anyone else having RORWessels |
| 23:51.12 | netcurse | m no |
| 23:51.19 | Aii | freenode is not associated with curse... |
| 23:51.24 | netcurse | lie Aii |
| 23:51.28 | OsirisT | how odd |
| 23:51.29 | netcurse | we are an evil corp |
| 23:51.30 | netcurse | we bought i |
| 23:51.31 | netcurse | it |
| 23:51.35 | Aii | so maybe you registered and forgot about it OsirisT |
| 23:51.37 | netcurse | just so i can OWN YOUR NAME! |
| 23:51.40 | Aii | or just plain coincidence |
| 23:51.44 | Aii | ~lart netcurse |
| 23:51.57 | OsirisT | ouch |
| 23:52.33 | OsirisT | Can I make one tiny suggestion about the curse client for mac... BTW Loving .15 |
| 23:52.42 | OsirisT | it needs a real icon though |
| 23:53.32 | OsirisT | I know small in the grand scheme |
| 23:53.52 | OsirisT | otherwise.... loveing it... |
| 23:53.52 | Kolie | Hjalte. Maybe why? |
| 23:54.24 | Kolie | It has icons. |
| 23:54.27 | Kolie | I just havent added them. |
| 23:54.27 | Hjalte | Kolie: A friend of mine is yelling at me because he erased his Addons folder, but still sees his addons in CC. How can he remove them without uninstalling all of them in the client? |
| 23:54.44 | *** part/#curseforge Undine (i=shamus@92-238-208-134.cable.ubr09.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:54.44 | Kolie | You could highlight all of them, ctrl-a what have you, and right click uninstall. |
| 23:55.02 | Kolie | If you really want to, I suppose you could delete the wowaddons.log |
| 23:55.29 | Kolie | shift click etc. |
| 23:55.57 | Hjalte | Kolie: Where is the wowaddons.log? |
| 23:56.06 | Hjalte | On windows XP |
| 23:56.20 | Kolie | Is there any reason to not right click uninstall? |
| 23:56.24 | OsirisT | Zeksie and I use ZOMGBuffs all the time.. could not play my pally, and almost quit playing him, without it. |
| 23:56.38 | Kolie | C:\documents and settings\username\Application Data\Local\CurseClient\wowaddons.log something along those lines. |
| 23:56.48 | Kolie | Its hidden, so not showing hidden folders/files can make that fun. |
| 23:56.55 | Hjalte | Kolie: Yeah, because he started installing addons, so some of them he doesn't want to remove. |
| 23:57.11 | Kolie | ctrl click them works too. |
| 23:57.17 | Kolie | But if he started installing them |
| 23:57.23 | Kolie | deleting the wowaddons.log is a blanket delete. |
| 23:57.50 | OsirisT | you could change the folder it points to in the client to some random folder then change it back |
| 23:57.59 | OsirisT | that might force it to redo the list |
| 23:58.02 | OsirisT | ?? |
| 23:58.07 | Hjalte | Kolie: I'm just thinking, that if he deletes the log file, it will rediscover the addons that he has installed. |
| 23:58.13 | Kolie | OsirisT: nope. |
| 23:58.21 | Kolie | It will Hjalte. |
| 23:58.22 | OsirisT | ahh.. |
| 23:58.39 | Kolie | Infact OsirisT: you could right click, reinstall, it will clear the old dirs, and install to new dirs. |
| 23:59.09 | OsirisT | interesting |
| 23:59.42 | Kolie | It tracks what files its installed, and into what directory. |
| 23:59.50 | OsirisT | so if I where to point it at my WoTLK beta folder it would go nuts then and re-install all the mods that where listed in the log? |
