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02:24.15pastamancerzomg I think I got my svn dump filter working
02:25.29pastamancerthe stage1 is still dumping data into the database, but I was able to generate a working (filtered) svn dump out of the partial node graph
02:26.00Aiianeneat
02:26.32pastamancerit's a beast, but it appears to be doing the right thing
02:27.06pastamancerand it only took... a week to write
02:28.35pastamancerI won't know until wednesday for sure though... that's when the stage1 will be complete and I'll have a full node graph in the database
02:29.27Aiianelord
02:29.38Aiianethat's crazy o.o
02:29.48pastamancer79k revisions
02:30.05pastamancerresulting in a directed graph with 4 million nodes
02:30.36pastamancerit's a 10-year-old VSS repo that was converted with vss2svn
02:31.04pastamancerand it has every change made to every website ever made by my work
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04:42.48Arrowmasterckknight: why would you touch the #WoWUIDev-commits CIA bot and break it
04:44.30Pazza_he ran out of things to do, so he broke something in order to have something to fix
04:44.52Arrowmasterexcept i fixed it after i randomly noticed something wasnt right in the channel
04:45.16Arrowmasteralthough the 'fix' was to just undo what he did and put it back how i had it before
04:45.48NechcknI know why he did... so do you Arrowmaster
04:45.52ckknighthey all
04:45.52Nechckn=)
04:45.54ckknightwhat's up?
04:46.07Arrowmasteryou broke WoWUIDev-commits CIA bot
04:46.12Arrowmasteri fixed it
04:46.17ckknightI did?
04:46.18ckknight:-P
04:46.19ckknighthow?
04:46.31Arrowmasterby disabling the advanced filter
04:46.47Arrowmasterand telling it to use a project list that only had CurseForge in it
04:47.13ckknightoh, I'm sorry
04:47.21ckknightdidn't realize that messed with other people
04:48.21Arrowmasteryeah bots are either shared access or exclusive access
04:49.33Arrowmasterlike i can nolonger edit the one in wowace-cia because cyrez switched it over to exclusive
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06:25.03Elkanohmm... how do I access those of my projcts that aren't listed?
06:25.38charonmorning
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06:36.51charonElkano: have you tried constructing the URL ;)
06:39.17Elkano^^
06:39.38Elkanowell, it says "My Projects (11)" and lists only 5 :/ it used to list all
06:42.17charondo the rest have any files?
06:42.32charoni vaguely remember an issue where everyone could see empty projects
06:42.32Elkanook, he fled... now I know who's responsible ;)
06:42.45Elkanowell, if they didn't delete them...
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07:39.20sag_ich_nichtElkano: the projects are buggy
07:40.48sag_ich_nichtElkano: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/473-i-cant-access-my-project-page/
07:40.59sag_ich_nichtalso empty projects don't show up, so construct the URL using the project shortname
07:41.04sag_ich_nichtand even if they aren't empty
07:41.17sag_ich_nichtthey don't show up if you don't have any files that went into packaging
07:41.59sag_ich_nichtno wait
07:42.03sag_ich_nichtthat guys stuff was deletedf
07:42.09sag_ich_nichtchanges his vote to -3
07:45.50Elkanowell, the projects used to be listed on the "my profile" page and it seems like they are even counted into my total number of projects
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07:54.20Arrowmasterhmm i wonder what http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/autosave/ was
07:54.38Arrowmasterand why it doesnt exist but still shows up on the guys project list
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08:48.37sag_ich_nichthttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/484-apache-gives-a-500-internal-server-error-when-trying/
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11:22.55CIA-5203pneumatus * r24 10[wow] classloot / (ClassLoot.lua ClassLoot.toc Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
11:22.55CIA-52ClassLoot:
11:22.55CIA-52- Fix deDE strings that still need translating
11:25.13CIA-5203pneumatus 07v1.4.5-release * r25 10[wow] classloot /: Tagging as v1.4.5-release.
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11:44.43dafireckknight, would it be possible to add a setting to set or override the base folder name in the created zip package ?
11:45.14Pneumatusyou can do that already
11:46.00Pneumatus"Package As:" in edit repository
11:46.22Pneumatusthe value you give to that is the name of the base folder in the zip
11:46.38sag_ich_nichtstabs dafire for hating on callbacks
11:47.12dafireyes.. but ckknight said the pkgmeta file could be used for other packagers, too .. there it would be useful...
11:47.32dafireI'm currently writing a python script that packages from a local git repository
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11:48.16dafirecurrently, e.g. with move-folders you have to know that the packager will package into "Cartographer3" to move files, but that information is not available in the file
11:49.04ckknightdafire: I was contemplating having a package-as directive in .pkgmeta, which override's the website's
11:49.24dafireckknight, that was the question before you got link dead :)
11:49.48ckknightmake a ticket
11:49.51ckknightI'll fix it today
11:50.12dafirePneumatus said I could do it in the web interface but I'm currently writing a python script that package from a local git repo :)
11:50.15dafirethanks :9
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11:54.26dafireposted :)
11:54.46ckknightdafire: a preprocessor is also run on all text files in the repo, you know
11:55.06dafirethe variable replacement thing ?
11:55.57ckknightyea
11:56.02dafireyes .. I wanted to add this, too .)
11:56.14ckknight(I want to open source that, btw)
11:56.22dafireIs there a category on curseforge to host a script like this ? :9
11:57.07ckknightyour script?
11:57.11dafireyes
11:57.14ckknighthrm
11:57.22ckknightI'll talk to Bryan about it
11:57.30ckknightk, the preprocessor does 3 things
11:57.42ckknightnormalizes line endings to \r\n
11:57.56ckknightreplaces simple keywords based on each repo type
11:57.59sag_ich_nichtckknight btw. throw the two DNS/mail & the one apache ticket at kaelten kthx
11:58.11ckknighthe's seen it
11:58.13ckknightso has my boss
11:58.38ckknightmy boss said that we have 4 MX servers and the A thing is set up properly
11:58.39ckknightafaik
11:58.59ckknightdafire: then it does the conditionals (@debug@, @end-debug@ and such)
11:59.11dafireckknight, thanks .)
12:00.18dafiresag_ich_nicht, what callbacks ?:)
12:01.30sag_ich_nichtckknight: http://www.intodns.com/curseforge.com
12:01.48sag_ich_nichtand there are NO A records for your nameservers in your nameservers.
12:02.05sag_ich_nichtand curseforge.com doesn't run a mailserver and lacks an MX entry
12:02.21sag_ich_nichtso I'd say your boss is wrong.
12:02.39sag_ich_nichtdafire: the ones in lsm :P
12:03.18dafireoh .. I switched to 3.0 some time ago .9
12:03.47sag_ich_nichtI know :P
12:03.52Pneu|hmm, curse.com has picked up my new -release zip in the files list, but not set it as the "current version"
12:03.57nevcairiel(14:01:46) (sag_ich_nicht) and there are NO A records for your nameservers in your nameservers. <-- not like thats Curses fault *shrug :P
12:03.58sag_ich_nichtand you QQed that you didn't need callbacks :P
12:04.11nevcairieltheir provider just stinks :)
12:04.22sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: I know their DNS provider
12:04.36sag_ich_nichtthey should be able to add the A entries for them ~_~
12:04.40dafiresag_ich_nicht, I don't need them there :9
12:04.59sag_ich_nichtdafire: you didn't properly implement LSM-3.0 into your addon then
12:05.21sag_ich_nichtand you are screwing over people that except it to work properly :P
12:06.19sag_ich_nichtmaybe YOU don't need them, but to implement LSM-3.0 correctly, they should be there regardlessly so that people can use e.g. overrides correct
12:06.28nevcairielBut anyway, the missing A results in an additional A lookup, not breaking anything, the missing MX however =P
12:06.34nevcairielAlso, SPF would be nice ;)
12:06.53sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: curse.com has an SPF, so I'd expect an SPF to follow for curseforge.com when an MX is implemented
12:06.53dafiresag_ich_nicht, probably not.. but I don't screw anybody since I don't publish it. It's just to add the commercial font I use and I make sure it's loaded first :)
12:07.05sag_ich_nichtfacepalm
12:07.35nevcairielmm that new secure header is confuzzling me
12:07.38sag_ich_nichtI won't even bother critizing that
12:07.44sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: how so?
12:07.58nevcairielit lacks docs!
12:08.06sag_ich_nichtTHE CODE IS THE DOC
12:08.09sag_ich_nichtGET USED TO IT
12:08.15dafireneed beta key .9
12:08.21nevcairielthe previous version had excellent docs
12:08.27nevcairielas short as they where
12:08.31sag_ich_nichtIf you don't understand it you are obviously not qualified enough to use the code and should die in a fire!
12:08.31nevcairielbut everything explained
12:09.00sag_ich_nichtthey can't handhold you thru everything, they have work to do!
12:09.18nevcairielno they dont!
12:09.38sag_ich_nichtsure
12:13.31Pneumatusckknight: any idea why the "current version" part of my addons curse.com page hasnt picked up the latest file even though its in the files list?
12:13.54ckknightPneumatus: because curse uses a funky query cache. It'll get picked up in the next run, which won't be long
12:14.00Pneumatusaha
12:14.02ckknightnevcairiel: I have a good idea about things, but yea, the lack of docs is annoying
12:14.20nevcairielmm
12:14.32nevcairielI'm trying to replicate the old behaviour somewhat
12:14.38nevcairieli have a header that changes state just fine
12:14.47nevcairielbut how the hell do i tell the children the new state?
12:16.36Pneumatustelepathy, or shouting really loud
12:16.39Pneumatus(no idea)
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12:26.10sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: just stab it until it screams really loud
12:26.27nevcairielmy stab-ing pole isnt long enough =(
12:26.29sag_ich_nichtI have found that to be the best method for gathering information
12:26.38sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: exchange it for a polearm
12:26.38sag_ich_nichtduh
12:27.07sag_ich_nichtalso I still think protection warriors should be able to wield a polearm in their mainhand with some talent
12:27.24sag_ich_nichtphalanx tanking
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12:52.19kagarockknight: how is the import gona hanlde moving stuff from wowace svn to curseforge with regards to project conflicts?
12:53.03ckknightnot sure
12:53.36charonlike all conflicts:
12:53.40charon<<<<<< .mine
12:53.43charon=======
12:53.46charon>>>>>>> .yours
12:53.47charon;)
12:54.02charon(damn i can't even count to 7)
12:54.22kagarocharon the conflict will ocur above the file level
12:54.39charongives up humour and lurks again
12:54.54kagaroi.e. I already have a kgPanels project on curseforge, which just has release zip, but I also have a svn project on wowace for kgPanels
13:02.01dafirehmm.. I thought the wowace will be more a copy of curseforge .. not a merge ? :9
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13:08.23sag_ich_nichtffs
13:08.25sag_ich_nichtEU keys are out
13:08.28sag_ich_nichtand mine still isn't herer
13:08.30sag_ich_nicht*here
13:08.31sag_ich_nichtI'm pissed
13:08.31sag_ich_nicht>(
13:10.18nevcairielOne batch of Opt-In keys
13:10.20nevcairielthats all
13:11.05dafireI had back luck .. the key on WWI card was damaged so 3 letters were unreadable .8
13:11.26nevcairiel:(
13:11.31dafirebut I got my mini tyrial .. that one worked :)
13:12.20dafireI mailed support on july 03 regarding the beta key.. I got an answer on july 15th that they still working on my issue.. nothing since then .9
13:12.53dafiretheir email support is ridiculous .)
13:15.38dafireI'd accept if they tell me that they can't do something with that problem .. but 4 weeks with no real answer .9
13:16.38sag_ich_nicht[15:10] <+nevcairiel> One batch of Opt-In keys <--yeah except:
13:16.45sag_ich_nichtWe have begun to process the regional beta key exchanges. At this time the new key will arrive in a seperate email as it is possible that you have already received the new beta key. Once you have received your beta key, you should be able to register your account with the correct region. If you continue to have any problems with the new beta key please reply back to me directly.
13:16.59sag_ich_nichtthat was on July 31, 6 days ago.
13:17.15nevcairielyou had a US key?:P
13:17.18sag_ich_nichtya
13:17.24nevcairielsucks
13:17.27sag_ich_nichtfrom someone on the D3 team
13:17.47sag_ich_nichtnow i'm yelling at him for being too lazy to talk to billing internally :P
13:18.09sag_ich_nicht[15:12] <dafire> their email support is ridiculous .) <--i agree
13:20.29dafirewell .. it's ok when I'm a few weeks before release in .. to test some addon stuff :9
13:20.58dafireIn bc beta I just got 64 with my warlock .9
13:21.00sag_ich_nichtIt's not okay for me I have to plan my leveling >(
13:21.12sag_ich_nichtand yell at paladin changes
13:22.12dafirewhy should I plan my leveling ? to be faster 80 and wait longer for the content patches ? :9
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13:24.19sag_ich_nichtdafire: ya
13:25.02dafireI hope archievement system starts with 3.0 so there is some time to do the old stuff before the addon arrives ;)
13:25.23nevcairielit will
13:25.57dafirehmm.. 2.0 was about 5 weeks before release, wasn't it ?
13:26.21dafirebut there was christmas between... hm
13:28.17dafirethere is something bad going on in wowace
13:28.31sag_ich_nichthow so?
13:28.40sag_ich_nicht(I'd look in the channel, but I'm banned :3)
13:28.57dafirescriptkiddies flooding the channel .9
13:29.04sag_ich_nichtlol
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13:31.06HjalteWhen did #wowace become invite-only?
13:31.41dafirewhen the botnet joined .9
13:34.29ckknightyou just have to register, I think
13:35.26HjalteI do have a registered chatname, but it says I have to be invited by a current member.
13:35.37nevcairieli set it to +i for a second when they joined, was the first thing that crossed my mind
13:35.41nevcairielchanged it to +r now
13:35.49HjalteGot in now :)
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13:43.15Arrowmastermight want to +v CIA just incase somebody does set +m or +R
13:43.38nevcairielwho cares about CIA shutting up for a while =P
13:43.54Arrowmasterlol
13:52.54sag_ich_nichtlol botnets
13:55.15Zhinjiofoo
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14:13.41Kaeltenhows it going guys
14:14.21sag_ich_nichtI can't sleep
14:14.28sag_ich_nichtI am going to die.
14:14.31KaeltenI'll trade you for burning alive.
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14:14.47sag_ich_nichtalso your DNS and your apache are still wrong.
14:16.13Kaeltenpardon?
14:16.13ckknightKaelten: Anaral was having subscription issues before
14:16.21Kaeltenya ther eis a bug in the rendering
14:16.22ckknightwhere the encoding was messing up or something
14:17.42ArrowmasterKaelten: so i can see reports on CF but cant figure out how to do anything about them
14:18.04Pneumatusthe subscription emails? yeh, they look a state now
14:18.17ArrowmasterKaelten: oh yeah and i still get a 403 from /admin/
14:18.29Kaeltenactually I've fixed that in my dev copy
14:18.37sag_ich_nichtKaelten: the curseforge.com NS lacks a MX entry and the main A entry(which points to curseforge, duh)  points to curseforge.com no MX means "mailserver runs on A record"
14:18.45sag_ich_nichtand there are two other issues as well
14:18.49sag_ich_nichtjust read the tickets :P
14:18.52Kaelten:P
14:20.42sbsag_ich_nicht: perhaps curseforge doesnt want to receive any emails? :o
14:21.53sag_ich_nichtsb: they send emails out with curseforge as domain
14:22.04sag_ich_nichtthis is invalid behaviour
14:22.05sbokay ;p
14:22.34Kaeltenya, there is no inbound mail server, hehe
14:22.36Kaeltenhereby labels curseforge as paradoxial
14:23.06sag_ich_nichtlabels curseforge as improperly configured
14:23.48sag_ich_nichtalso labels curseforge as being prone to get caught in spam filters until this is fixed
14:25.09Kaeltenya.  spam filters are my bane
14:25.17sag_ich_nichtalso labels curseforge as being theoretically unreachable because the apache isn't reacting correctly when you try to access http://www.curseforge.com./ instead of http://www.curseforge.com/
14:25.58dafirewho trys that anyways ?
14:26.15sag_ich_nichtsystems with proper DNS implementation.
14:26.36dafirehttp://www.curseforge.com./ works for me
14:26.40sag_ich_nicht(and it works on curse.com)
14:26.41sag_ich_nichtwhat
14:26.42sag_ich_nichthold on
14:26.51sag_ich_nichtInternal Server Error
14:26.51sag_ich_nichtThe server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
14:26.51sag_ich_nichtPlease contact the server administrator, bmclemore@curse.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
14:26.51sag_ich_nichtMore information about this error may be available in the server error log.
14:26.51sag_ich_nichtApache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.1 Server at www.curseforge.com Port 80
14:26.53sag_ich_nichtnope
14:26.59sag_ich_nichtnot workin :P
14:27.43Arrowmasterit seems to redirect to www.curseforge.com like curse does
14:27.49Arrowmasterbut 500s
14:28.32dafireinteresting... with squid proxy it shows the curseforge.com page ,)
14:28.42sag_ich_nichtdafire: you just discovered a bug in squid
14:28.44sag_ich_nichtcongratulations
14:28.51dafireI feel good now
14:29.14sag_ich_nichtit's probably not escaping full stops inside of it's data handling code properly
14:30.04dafirebut I think the problem with apache is just that it don't match the VirtualHost name
14:31.11nevcairielit really shouldnt error with a 500 though
14:31.14nevcairielsomething is fishy :P
14:31.27Kaeltenhrm
14:31.32Kaeltensounds like my domain mangling code
14:31.55dafireeverything.curseforge.com also gives that error .9
14:32.08Kaeltenoh?
14:32.19Arrowmasterwhy do you end everything with .9?
14:32.34Kaeltenthats a bug
14:32.36Kaeltenshould give a 404 on uknown subs
14:32.39Kaeltenhrm I get a 404 on everything.curseforge.com
14:33.11dafirebastianh@Blueberry:~/WoW/Interface/AddOns/ClosetGnome$ wget http://everything.curseforge.com./
14:33.11dafire--16:33:20--  http://everything.curseforge.com./
14:33.11dafire<PROTECTED>
14:33.11dafireResolving everything.curseforge.com.... 66.150.230.40
14:33.11dafireConnecting to everything.curseforge.com.|66.150.230.40|:80... connected.
14:33.12dafireHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error
14:33.14dafire16:33:20 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.
14:33.46dafireArrowmaster, well.. hmm.. thats a :) without using shift :)
14:34.19Kaeltenoh well ya it has the .
14:34.27dafirethe same without .9
14:34.45dafirei tried both
14:34.50KaeltenI just get a redirect
14:35.08Kaeltendid you just hit it?
14:35.30dafireyes
14:35.31Kaeltenok thats not a cool error
14:35.36Kaeltenwtf
14:35.37Kaeltendigging
14:38.50Kaeltendamnit I hate django
14:39.20dafireme too, sometimes .9
14:39.37KaeltenI've seriously come to conclude that, in general.  Django is a peice of shit
14:39.42dafireand they made so much incompatible with 1.0 now .9
14:39.55Kaeltenthat is a pure embodiement of worse-is-better
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14:41.14Kaeltenso you raise an error in the middle ware
14:41.23Kaeltendjango's resolver doesn't get created until after
14:41.29Kaeltenand the error handler tries to use it
14:41.29Kaeltenwtf.
14:43.49Kaeltendafire: try now
14:44.04dafirestill the same
14:45.25cncfanaticsckknight: is it possible to make pitbull unitframes change location based on wether I'm in a raid or not ?
14:45.30cncfanaticsor just straight anchor them to another frame
14:45.48ckknightnot currently
14:45.57ckknightI'm rewriting PitBull for WotLK, you know
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14:46.08dafirehmm... could get problems when you are in combat when get invited .9
14:46.21Kaeltendafire: hit it again?
14:46.52dafiresame
14:47.02cncfanaticsckknight: okay
14:47.06Neyayou could change the saved vars via a macro and reload the ui or trigger an update of the location cncfanatics.
14:47.10Kaeltenya different error though
14:47.15ckknightcncfanatics: that's one of the things I want to make easier
14:47.21ckknightcncfanatics: you could switch profiles...
14:47.32cncfanaticswell
14:47.36cncfanaticsI want to anchor it to my grid
14:47.43cncfanaticsso its location would actualy depend on how much members are in the raid
14:47.55zhurhello all, can I get a little help with addon management on curseforge please?
14:48.22ckknightshoot, Zhinjio
14:48.24ckknighterr, zhur*
14:49.24Kaeltendafire: ok try again?
14:49.33ckknightoh, question for all of you: would you rather the zip of your project be your package-as name or your project's short name? (currently, it's the short name, which is the all-lowercase thing)
14:49.38dafireKaelten, same
14:49.43Kaeltenoops forgot to update the site.
14:50.03Kaeltennow try again dafire
14:50.06Kaeltensorry about that
14:50.12dafireKaelten, same
14:50.16Kaeltenoh fucking A
14:50.48dafireckknight, hmm.. I don't care .)
14:50.59ckknightfixed http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/486-new-pkgmeta-directive-package-as/ btw
14:51.06zhurckknight: I created a curseforge project and uploaded a file - initial version... it made a curse.com project in some time... now I uploaded next version of the project and it got passed verification so I can see the file in Downloads on curse; but the Current Version still contains link to the old version... how should I make it show the new version? :) Thanks for help!
14:51.22dafireaway for a minute
14:51.26ckknightzhur: what's your project name?
14:51.32zhurlingwow
14:52.09ckknightyea, it updated already
14:52.16ckknightif you check curse.com now
14:53.07zhurckknight: oh, thanks... and sorry if I missed something... so it just takes more time to update than I thought? :P
14:53.28ckknightzhur: yea, it's running a gradual full sync, so it may take up to 20 minutes
14:53.31ckknightnormally it's shorter.
14:53.31Pneumatus1 : 0 to the cachemonster
14:53.55Kaeltendafire: pretty sure that fixes it
14:54.30zhurckknight: got it... thanks alot for help
14:54.38Pneumatusckknight: either works for me, but i know some people have silly long project names
14:55.02Pneumatussuch as "CheeseSLS Käsefreunde Stormwind Shroud Loot System Manager"
14:55.15Pneumatusand "WarsongCountdown - Justicar and Conqueror title calculator for Warsong Gulch"
14:55.40ckknightwell, the short name is usually much smaller
14:55.45ckknightand so is their addon folder name
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14:56.12dafireKaelten, looks good
14:56.29Pneumatusoh, if you zip on addon folder name, then that would work as well
14:57.08Pneumatusbut tbh, i dont pay any attention to the zip names
14:57.16Kaeltenshort_name has to be 32 chars or less
14:57.26dafireas long as it still contains the version string .9
14:57.53Pneumatusive not looked at the curse client in a while, but is it able to update multiple addons at once?
14:58.01Pneumatusor is that going to be a premium feature?
14:58.15Pneumatusas, with any updater the zip names don't mean anything anyway
14:59.59dafireI'd be interested in the fetching api for premium members.. think something like that was in the thread ? :)
15:02.41ckknightI still think that short name should be renamed to slug, since that's what it actually is
15:03.01ckknight:-P
15:04.17Kaeltendafire: I'm pushing for it, but I can't promise when it'll be available.
15:05.03dafirewas there an estimate how much premium would be ?.9
15:05.30Kaeltenlast thing I heard netcurse say was $2, but I don't think its finalized
15:05.41Kaeltenthat'd be if you payed for a year at a time
15:08.34Aiimorning all :)
15:09.14nevcairielmorning Aii
15:10.00kagaropokes Kaelten on name changing util
15:10.15Kaelten:P
15:10.29kagaroI redid all my tocs this morning to reflect my normal user handle
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15:13.16Kaeltencool we still have a few weeks before it becomes important.
15:13.29Kody-Yeah numbers haven't really been finalized yet, so take anything anyone says with a grain of salt at this point, but it'll definitely be pretty low compared to the typical premium service
15:14.31kagaroKaelten:  they now all reflect teh same user name .. kagaro
15:14.50kagarogo do a db update :P
15:14.57ckknightnot that easy
15:15.15Kaeltenkagaro: but it is on our lists of things to do before the transition.
15:15.22charonckknight: i noticed the packager will pack both the commit and the tag if i push out a tag... is that intentional?
15:15.37ckknightfor svn, they're two separate revisions
15:15.38kagarook im off, ill be at blackhat this week if anyone here is gona be there as well
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15:15.51ckknightit can't tell that they're equal, really
15:16.03charongit
15:16.11ckknightoh
15:16.14ckknightit should just do the tag
15:16.17ckknightis it an annotated tag?
15:16.29charonoh, right, that's the problem, good point
15:16.42ckknightthat's the "proper" way of doing it
15:16.49charoni know, but i always forget the -a :(
15:16.51ckknightand frankly, I'd rather support the proper way
15:16.58ckknighthehe, yea, yea
15:17.20ckknightJesus, it is hot.
15:17.31Pneumatusckknight: does the new tag comment thingy on the web interface auto-replace your tag name into the ___ bit?
15:17.36ckknightno
15:17.42dafirewhat happens it the tags get signed ? :9
15:17.49ckknightdafire: should work fine
15:17.56dafirenever tried .)
15:18.16dafiredon't even looked into it.. you can only sign tags, not commits ?
15:18.16Pneumatusany plans for a variable replacement or something like "Tagging as %TAGNAME%"?
15:19.44ckknightPneumatus: not really :-P
15:20.03Pneumatusshame, wish i hadnt suggested the custom comments in that case ;)
15:20.25ckknightwhy?
15:20.39Pneumatusmore work c/p the tagname in to the comment field now :>
15:20.46ckknightbah
15:20.53ckknightI suppose I could add %TAGNAME%
15:20.54ckknightor something
15:21.07Kaeltensag_ich_nicht: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/471-curseforge-com-and-curse-com-dns-servers-lacking-glue/
15:21.14Kaeltenwe don't control the domain for dnsmadeeasy
15:22.22Pneumatusi'm surprised that a dns hosting company doesnt have glue for its own nameservers o.O
15:22.54dafirewhat's a good dns provider ? is godaddy ok ?
15:23.05Kaeltendafire: I don't like godaddy for anything
15:23.07nevcairielPneumatus: they do
15:23.19nevcairielwhat that page is complaining about is different
15:23.33Kaeltencan someone explain it better then :)
15:23.38dafireI have still two domains running on my old company and don't know where to move them to.. my webspace has no own servers
15:23.45ckknightthere, Pneumatus :-P
15:23.47Kaeltendafire: mydomain
15:23.51Kaeltenckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/465-the-changelog-generated-by-the-packager-has-unix-lineendings/
15:23.56dafirek thanks I'll look for it :9
15:23.59nevcairielthe curseforge.com domain config does not contain the NS GLUE entrys itself, so it needs another A lookup to query the dnsmadeeasy domain servers
15:24.06charonre 465, notepad is not an editor :p
15:24.08Pneumatusckknight: sexy
15:24.09ckknightKaelten: forgot to close that
15:24.55Pneumatusaha, i understand now
15:25.19Kaeltenit won't let me add a GLUE record type
15:25.21Pneumatusso when someone queries curseforge.com they ideally would get A records for each ns* record in the result
15:25.23nevcairielKaelten: complaining about that missing glue is pointless anyway, it doesnt hurt functionality at all, and its not their nameservers that have to do another lookup =P
15:25.32nevcairielKaelten: its a A
15:25.50nevcairieljust add A for all of the domain servers
15:26.07nevcairielits still stupid to complain about that ;)
15:26.14nevcairielThe missing MX entry however :D
15:26.43Kaeltenhehe
15:26.50Pneumatusyeh, the issue with putting glue records in the cf zone means if your dns provider mess with their IPs, your glue will be wrong
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15:27.03Kaeltenheh
15:27.10Pneumatuswhich is probably even worse than not having glue records at all
15:27.11Kaeltenya I could see that as a fun side effect
15:28.27pastamancercurse has a sysadmin, right?
15:30.53Pneumatushmm, to go and get some food... or to fiddle with my data scraper
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15:45.04Jim-Bimbtw. still no keys? : /
15:45.16ckknightpeople have been getting keys
15:45.31nevcairielonly opt-in or WWI
15:45.34ckknightmy advice: just wait, it'll come :-)
15:45.34nevcairielno author keys yet
15:45.39ckknightsrsly?
15:45.45ckknightI know someone who got one...
15:45.51Jim-BimUS?
15:45.53nevcairielyou sure its from author?
15:45.58nevcairieland not pure coincedent?
15:46.01ckknightlemme check
15:46.03ckknighthe's EU
15:48.51sbi dont think author keys are out, there is also nothing on wowi forums (some guy yelling "omfg, i just got my author key!"))
15:49.37Jim-Bimblizzard sucks, there are opt-in and guild packs keys already around...
15:49.51sbyup, i know
15:50.02sylvanaaryeah, that pisses me off
15:51.03sbyup :(
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16:18.18AiiDESTRUCTION CHAOS AND DOOM!
16:18.21Aii^_^
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16:26.58ElkanoOo
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16:27.33netcursehunt him down
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16:44.57ckknightis anyone here in Warhammer and interested in making mods for it?
16:47.24sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel: would you quit pushing wotlk fixes to live?
16:47.29sag_ich_nichti am going to stab you
16:48.20nevcairielall for you!
16:48.46sag_ich_nichtI HAVE THE DAMN WOTLK SVN BRANCH, don't push your fix to live, it breaks on live
16:49.08nevcairielwhat do i care about people running alpha, srsly
16:49.47nevcairielalso i noticed my mistake a few minutes later and fixed it
16:50.15sag_ich_nichtthen it didn't propagate
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16:59.55Pazza_I would ck, but I'm not starting up another MMO. lol
17:00.16DashkalKody!
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17:01.11Kaeltenhrm
17:01.15Kaeltendamn thats extreme
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17:01.48sag_ich_nichtckknight: I won't bother with WAR, I'm waiting for darkfall online, but darkfall probably has a lot less potential for custom UIs than other MMOs due to the game design
17:01.59ckknightk
17:03.51DashkalO.o
17:04.30DashkalI'm gonna leave the packs in the queue alone until I get a clear idea how you're handing that stuff
17:06.49ckknightgood idea
17:07.21sag_ich_nichtalso
17:07.26sag_ich_nichtI have slept for 2 hours
17:07.27Kaeltenya, don't mess with packs yet hehe
17:07.41Dashkaldo authors get a notification when I reject a project?
17:07.44sag_ich_nichtand a black tempel raid coming up
17:07.50Dashkalneed to know who I'm writing to in this lil box
17:07.53sag_ich_nichtsomeone get me vasopressin, washed caffeine, jumpstart, gingko biloba, guarana, and any intelligence enhancer introduced in the last five years
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17:08.08KaeltenDashkal: yes they do now, via email
17:08.12Dashkalkk good
17:08.23Kaeltenpretty sure ck committed that
17:08.55DashkalDescription: "mandatory".  mmm, try again :p (phrased professionally of course)
17:09.06ckknightlol
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17:10.46Dashkalcf having a hiccup?
17:11.25Kaelten?
17:11.59Zyuuworks for me
17:12.01DashkalThe cf gods are rising against my rejection of that educating description... or the server is just lagging
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17:12.50Kody-the "mandatory" description? ;)
17:13.04Dashkal:p
17:15.02Dashkalhmm, I can navigate around curseforge, but I cannot seem to delete that project.  Checked the box, filled in the reason and hit "moderate".  I see my browser try to navigate and nothing happenns
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17:23.01Dashkalfinally crashed out with a 500
17:23.05DashkalI broked it
17:25.10sag_ich_nichtoh for christs sake
17:25.13sag_ich_nichtwe only got 6 healers
17:25.16sag_ich_nichtLUDICROUS
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18:07.42Dashkaland this time it works
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18:13.46Dashkalany policy on projects entirely in a different language? (I can't reach German so I don't think I can moderate that very effectively)
18:14.37Dashkalread*
18:16.51dafire_hmm... look for foreign moderators :)
18:17.24AiiCongraulations /dev/null, you're our new foreign moderator! (:P)
18:17.52Dashkalrofl
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18:37.08sag_ich_nichtwho the hell decided to nerf the sunblade protectors
18:38.46sag_ich_nichtthey don't link with the trashpacks anymore
18:41.46dafire_the scouts don't call them ?
18:44.23nevcairielwhen did that happen
18:45.44Kaeltengods its hot
18:45.58Aiitrue that
18:46.05Dashkal~weather CYVR
18:46.08Dashkalwhistles innocently
18:46.27Aii~weather LAX
18:46.35Aiiboo
18:46.40Primer~weather KTOA
18:46.46Kaelten~weather HSV
18:46.48Dashkalclicky the link, you prolly just need another letter in front of it, aii
18:47.02Primer77...so hot!
18:47.25Kaelten~weather khsv
18:47.49Dashkal20c and that's "gods its hot"?  I assume that's wrong?
18:47.56Kaelten33.3C
18:47.57Dashkalerm, dew point
18:47.59Dashkallol
18:47.59Aii~weather KLAX
18:48.06Dashkall2n2read
18:48.13Aiicool in lax atm :)
18:48.22KaeltenI want to be in LA!
18:48.26Primer<-- in LA
18:48.32Kaelten:P
18:48.45Primer~2 miles from the beach
18:48.49Kaelten~weather KMDQ
18:48.53AiiPrimer: I'm in Claremont
18:48.57dafire_I don't want to be in US :)
18:49.01PrimerAii: Torrance
18:49.04AiiAnd my aunt lives in Redondo Beach
18:49.08Aii6 blocks from the beach ;)
18:49.10Primerright next door
18:49.34Primer<-- Graduate of Redondo Union High School
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18:49.42PrimerI lived in RB for a long time
18:51.17dafire_~weather EDDV
18:56.48Dashkaloh finally!  ok, degeneration isn't the druid killer I feared it was.
18:57.23DashkalCurrently sitting attached to Plague Strike, it removes _one_ hot per application and adds a disease.  Very cool, painful to a druid, but most certainly not a killer.
18:57.55NeyaHT becomes a keyskill once again.
18:58.14KaeltenDashkal: can you relog into the channel for me?
18:58.35Dashkaldamn, cz doesn't have cycle
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18:58.51Dashkalooo, pretty
18:59.46DashkalHT on the bar is a lil slow for PvP unless you have NS handy.  And if it's a proper dispel, it'll proc LB anyway.  Sounds reasonably balanced, actually
19:00.29Neyaaye
19:00.53nevcairielHT will never be good again
19:01.08nevcairiel(except NS)
19:02.00DashkalI'll certainly be avoiding regrowth anytime I see a runeblade, though :p
19:02.39Dashkaleither that or wait for whatever fancy combat tracker mod can tell me when his unholy runes are down
19:02.45Kody-Dashkal, from the mobs I've fought that cast HoTs, it's about a 200% increase in tick damage for the rank I have (at 72)
19:03.07DashkalKody-: the +damage seems to be removed: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/18/8557303653-plague-strike-and-degeneration.html
19:03.30Dashkalit may come back, but isn't in the current incarnation.  If they put it back, it should probably be on the talent
19:03.33Kody-Ah nice
19:03.46Dashkalbut the degen is core now, not unholy, which is cool
19:03.49Kody-It's on Plague Strike now, actually
19:03.57Kody-So hmm
19:05.39DashkalI really like the direction they're going with this and hope it applies to the other tanks too: That spec no longer dictates role but style.  No "tanking" or "PvP" tree.
19:06.18Dashkal~soon
19:06.19purlsoon is, like, well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon
19:14.00sag_ich_nichtthis makes the trash to kalecgos stupidly easly >(
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19:20.45dafire_trash should be easy in the first place .)
19:38.26AiianeDashkal: Except for y'know, the trees that totally change the class *cough*shadow*cough *cough*feral*cough
19:38.39DashkalAiiane: well of course :p
19:39.02DashkalBut there's no helping druids for that, really
19:39.12Dashkaleven paladins can be 'fixed' sooner than druids
19:39.30Aiianeand priests' trees are still a little o_O
19:39.47Aiianedisc is still the pvp tree, and holy still the pve tree, for healing
19:39.55Aiianesure, you /might/ bring 1 disc priest to pve
19:40.34nevcairielis that the old "every tree should be viable everywhere" discussion? :D
19:41.01Aiianenah, I just wish they'd be more direct with the priest trees :P
19:42.47Dashkalbbias, router reboot
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20:01.29netcurseckk/kael, need invites please
20:01.38ckknightto what?
20:01.49netcurseWAAGH!
20:04.44sylvanaari need invites too - to whatever - i feel left out
20:05.34ckknightsure
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20:08.55sag_ich_nichtme three lol!
20:10.43Dashkalmmm, conversation without context
20:10.52nevcairielcontext eh?
20:11.34ckknightanyone here in the WAR beta?
20:12.27sag_ich_nichtnope
20:12.30sag_ich_nichtbut i'd like to be in it
20:12.42sag_ich_nicht[21:20] <dafire_> trash should be easy in the first place .) <--you don't know a lot about sunwell, do you?
20:12.56sag_ich_nichtthe trash there was AWESOME
20:13.01sag_ich_nichtwhy the HELL did they nerf it
20:13.08nevcairieltrash that shields three bosses can be a bit harder tbh
20:13.30nevcairielwithout the scouts aggro'ing the protectors..where is the fun?
20:13.36sag_ich_nichtyeah
20:13.41sag_ich_nichtno that's not
20:13.44sag_ich_nichtthe scouts aggro the protectors
20:13.46sag_ich_nichtthe problem is
20:13.54sag_ich_nichtthe protectors don't pull the groups anymore
20:13.57nevcairielah
20:14.02nevcairielhm
20:14.06nevcairielwe never ran into that issue though
20:14.24Aiiso you can just pull the protectors first, sag_ich_nicht ?
20:14.26nevcairielwe just kill all in order for lootz =)
20:14.58sag_ich_nichtAii: yeah -.-
20:15.37sag_ich_nichtwe just send a paladin(me in fact) up to the protector when the scout patted to the side, divine shield, pull
20:15.49sag_ich_nichtand the damn protector runs STRAIGHT THRU THE MOBS and doesn't aggro them
20:15.55nevcairiellol
20:15.58nevcairielbut but
20:16.11nevcairielits not hard to insta kill the damn scout
20:16.15nevcairielnot even remotely hard
20:16.29nevcairieldistract with route, countdown, cast, dead
20:16.37sag_ich_nichtit's not HARD
20:16.40sag_ich_nichtbut it's hard for IDIOTS
20:16.43nevcairiel*rouge
20:16.51Aii*rogue
20:16.57nevcairieldamnit
20:16.59Aiirouges are overpowdered
20:17.00sag_ich_nichteven idiots that clear hyjal and BT up to illidan
20:17.01nevcairieli'm tired =(
20:17.34sag_ich_nichtwe just headed into sunwell for the first time and i was like what the hell
20:17.44nevcairielthe first time it was fun as hell
20:17.46nevcairielon PTR
20:18.00nevcairielthey already lowered scout HP between PTR and live
20:18.17sag_ich_nichti wanted to see the idiots in my raid wipe endlessly on those groups because they're too retarded to time their nukes to instagib the scout
20:18.24sag_ich_nichtbut nooo
20:18.29sag_ich_nichtteh sux 8(
20:18.42nevcairielmust've been 2.4.3
20:20.09sag_ich_nichtyeah
20:20.10sag_ich_nichtFAIL
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20:42.44Dashkalwhoa.  you can have spaces in addon folder/toc names?
20:43.02nevcairielyou really shouldnt
20:43.08cncfanaticsDashkal: really bad idea
20:43.21Dashkalfair enough.  just ran across one that has it
20:53.44ckknightwell, I removed the ability to in curseforge (can't set your package-as to have spaces in it)
20:54.27Dashkalcheck the approval log.  the webDKP project is doing it
20:54.45Dashkalbut they submit files, that isn't through the packager
20:56.18ckknightah
20:57.49Dashkalat least I assume there is such a log :p
20:58.10nevcairielassumptions? you wish!
20:58.26Dashkal:p
20:58.34nevcairielthat reminds me, i have to post this again
20:58.35nevcairiel"Diablo III - Now with pants"
20:58.50Dashkalpants?  why would I want pants?
20:58.57nevcairiel" ... Although I will say the pitch that I originally did, once we decided what we were going to do, said .Diablo III . now with pants.. Because we added a pants slot."
20:59.47nevcairiellikes the slogan
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21:38.22sag_ich_nichtsomeone here with a US account do me a favor, logon Blackrock and write a mail to Dirtybishop with the following content, Subject: "No Naxx Shoulder Enchant?" Text: "better get it fast, l2twink lol"
21:39.21sag_ich_nichtoh wait
21:39.23sag_ich_nichthe was banned?
21:39.24sag_ich_nichtlol.
21:40.36sag_ich_nichtnvm then
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