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10:23.55 | Ali_ | ls |
10:24.04 | Ali_ | Hi all |
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12:27.13 | wooy | Hey, anyone here is running saml or openid identity provider? I was thinking about shibboleth or simplesamlphp. |
12:30.03 | mnemoc | G is openid provider :p |
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12:36.34 | wooy | I actually need saml more than openid, but i mentioned both. |
12:42.22 | rm | wooy, I run http://simpleid.koinic.net/ |
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13:46.10 | old-papa-work | Hello, anybody home? I was wondering on the availability of the Cubie? |
13:48.16 | Thihi_ | I just got mine. |
13:48.25 | Thihi_ | Ordered it last week. |
13:49.40 | old-papa-work | Where from? |
13:50.49 | old-papa-work | I'm doing R&D and looking into pcDruino, Beaglebone Black and this.. |
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13:51.47 | old-papa-work | And UDOO quad, but that will not be avail until Sept. |
13:53.17 | old-papa-work | Thihi? |
13:53.49 | old-papa-work | I can only find 1 local dealer and I think he is in California |
13:54.00 | old-papa-work | out of his house.. |
13:54.21 | Thihi_ | old-papa-work, sorry |
13:54.32 | old-papa-work | no prob, I'm at work too.. |
13:54.34 | Thihi_ | old-papa-work, I'll check the vendor, sec |
13:54.39 | old-papa-work | ok.. |
13:55.05 | Thihi_ | It was from Miniand, and I ordered it to Finland. |
13:55.10 | old-papa-work | :) |
13:55.14 | old-papa-work | ok, ty.. |
13:56.15 | old-papa-work | I send em and email and see what happens.. |
13:56.25 | old-papa-work | cubie----.org |
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14:02.04 | old-papa-work | I sent an email to .org.. |
14:08.19 | mnemoc | there are many shops with stock. pick any and buy it |
14:11.17 | old-papa-work | I just joined the google+ page |
14:11.23 | old-papa-work | reading it now.. |
14:15.37 | mnemoc | what about the official site? http://cubieboard.org/buy/ |
14:16.05 | old-papa-work | Did try to send email, but it kicked back as a bad address.. |
14:16.16 | old-papa-work | Looking now.. |
14:17.07 | BigWhoop[DE] | any new breakthroughs? |
14:17.40 | old-papa-work | Ok, the placed I did find is listed as a distributor.. |
14:18.41 | old-papa-work | I have a PO made.. Will get it anyways |
14:19.03 | mnemoc | unless you buy your CB from https://cubieboard.myshopify.com (aka http://cubiestore.com), it's a reseller |
14:19.23 | old-papa-work | Yup, he is a reseller |
14:20.50 | mnemoc | http://cubieluffy.taobao.com/ is also a direct shop, but taobao is only for china |
14:34.47 | old-papa-work | back, |
14:36.11 | old-papa-work | I purchase a few things from china.. Power Supplies, RJ45 to Video Baluns.. indirectly ChiMei 10.4" panels and from Germany, Controller boards for the panels.. This year alone be 1500 units. |
14:36.31 | old-papa-work | I don't purchase, located and had PO made.. |
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14:45.27 | mnemoc | if you want to buy large qty you are better contacting tom directly. for a couple of pieces, any distributor will do |
14:45.53 | old-papa-work | Yup, will get that done.. |
14:46.35 | old-papa-work | Will run it under android.. previous product has android apps in it now.. this will cut down time |
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14:56.22 | arod | does the CB come with android preloaded? I did connect it to a TV (HDMI) and I'm getting non signal. Red and green LED are on |
14:56.28 | arod | what's wrong? |
14:57.07 | old-papa-work | I have read the newer boards have android.. |
14:57.29 | old-papa-work | But I have only been researching for a day now.. |
14:58.28 | arod | well I've tried on two TVs and screen is black. I can't tell about monitors. I've got DVI only |
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15:36.57 | BigWhoop[DE] | arod you can look at the ttl to see whats wrong. |
15:37.06 | BigWhoop[DE] | you only need a cheap usb ttl converter |
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15:40.03 | joph | arod, mine had android preinstalled, but i bought it used |
15:40.32 | joph | arod, power source? |
15:40.49 | joph | i have these issues if i use a to small power supply |
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17:08.51 | joph | but another version with metal cause the one with plastic screws has 30 days processing time... |
17:18.34 | arod | joph, I'm using a 2A PSU, the one sold on cubieboard's shopify. It shouldn't be the issue |
17:19.04 | arod | btw I have the B&W plastic case and it's pretty good |
17:19.29 | old-papa-work | I see that this board does draw some current.. |
17:28.15 | wooy | old-papa-work: i think the board can run with 600 mA |
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17:37.21 | old-papa-work | I have read that people have issues.. just wondering.. |
17:37.32 | old-papa-work | I have 12v 2.5 power packs |
17:42.03 | BigWhoop[DE] | wooy sure it could |
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17:46.08 | mnemoc | old-papa-work: the cubieboard only takes 5V |
17:50.39 | Swat- | mnemoc: i called the national post agency today and guess what |
17:52.06 | Swat- | mnemoc: they delivered the package @17:00 hrs.. :-) |
17:53.59 | mnemoc | Swat-: :) |
17:54.22 | old-papa-work | Hmm, ok, 5 V.. The old HP Touchpad power adapters are 5v 2.5 a I think. |
17:55.19 | old-papa-work | I just sent a po to purchase the cubie and stuff from George here in USA (breadboard too.) |
17:55.20 | mnemoc | any USB PSU is 5V... |
17:55.35 | old-papa-work | the amps is the important |
17:55.55 | mnemoc | 1A is good, 2A only if you want to power a SATA drive |
17:56.06 | old-papa-work | I have also have a PO out for the pcDuino and the Beaglebone Black. |
17:56.29 | old-papa-work | I might have an SATA drive, I have a bunch of 16G's |
17:56.31 | mnemoc | safe pick is to use a USB PSU for Apple devices, those need to be >2.1A |
17:56.50 | mnemoc | and the usb/dc cable included with the cubie |
17:57.12 | old-papa-work | An older project did not fly to well, I have like 100 or was it 200 16g SSD's |
17:57.19 | jelly-home | would 1A be enough for an extra usb (hub+ethernet) device |
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17:57.53 | mnemoc | jelly-home: yes. many run their sata-less CB's only with OTG (<0.5A) power |
17:58.18 | jelly-home | hmm, satanless cubie |
17:59.00 | mnemoc | i personally do it the other way around, a 4A USB hub powering the cubie |
17:59.07 | suhanc | re |
17:59.19 | mnemoc | and the rest of the usb things |
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18:02.24 | joph | orderd one, I hope the quality is good *g* |
18:03.17 | Swat- | if i use for instance this image: http://guillaumeplayground.net/mele-a2000-headless-debian-wheezy-armhf-with-nand-install-v1/ |
18:03.34 | Swat- | And write it to nand afterwards, will i be able to boot without SD card? |
18:03.51 | mnemoc | it's ancient |
18:04.38 | mnemoc | but sure, no one forces you to boot from uSD. |
18:06.31 | mnemoc | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Orico-H4928-u2-4-ports-with-5V4A-external-power-high-speed-USB2-0-USB/726812646.html <--- love this hub |
18:08.09 | mnemoc | there is a 7 ports variant, also 4A |
18:08.32 | mnemoc | (using a quality 12V/2.5A PSU) |
18:09.05 | jelly-home | "easy your pc", heh |
18:09.13 | jelly-home | looks decent |
18:10.45 | mnemoc | I have a 2x3.5 and a 4x3.5 RAID device from them too, a as it emulates a single sata, works with the cubie ;-) |
18:11.09 | mnemoc | <3 orico |
18:11.36 | jelly-home | which chipset do they use? |
18:11.37 | wooy | mnemoc: link pls |
18:11.57 | jelly-home | (sounds like areca... so it's probably not) |
18:11.58 | mnemoc | i bought the raid devices from DX years ago |
18:12.26 | jelly-home | was A10 confirmed not to work with sata multiplexing? |
18:12.33 | mnemoc | they have esata and usb2/3 outputs |
18:12.51 | jelly-home | or was it perhaps just the drivers |
18:13.51 | wooy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05wpERpDriI |
18:14.32 | mnemoc | wooy: the 2x3.5 is ORICO 7632RUS, but it's discontinuated |
18:14.44 | wooy | ok thx |
18:15.03 | mnemoc | can't warranty the USB3 successor also emulates single sata |
18:16.44 | wooy | yeah, thats the tricky part |
18:16.58 | rm | <mnemoc> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Orico-H4928-u2-4-ports-with-5V4A-external-power-high-speed-USB2-0-USB/726812646.html <--- love this hub |
18:17.04 | rm | seems way too expensive for USB 2.0 |
18:18.44 | mnemoc | not the usual cheap chinese hardware |
18:19.21 | mnemoc | but it's the best hub i've ever used |
18:20.31 | mnemoc | and it does very good power managemnet, even when used as charger |
18:23.35 | mnemoc | there are usb3 variants too, and more ports. (all "way too expensive" but great).... but my laptop doesn't support usb3 anywya |
18:24.34 | mnemoc | $22 is still fair... there are models >$50 or even >$70 |
18:31.03 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-ORICO-Portable-Super-Speed-4-ports-USB-3-0-Hub-LED-Indicator-5Gbps-Hot-swap/831942774.html |
18:31.17 | rm | could see some uses for that one |
18:31.34 | rm | and priced a little better, while even being 3.0 |
18:32.26 | mnemoc | no external power, no joy |
18:35.00 | mnemoc | they have a very $nice$ 7xUSB3 hub with 12V/4A PSU |
18:35.54 | mnemoc | Orico A3H7 $70-$80 :p |
18:38.00 | mnemoc | decided to buy such thing is almost as hard as buying an FTDI based usb/uart instead of a dozen $2 adapters |
18:38.10 | mnemoc | s/decided/deciding/ |
18:39.10 | rm | <mnemoc> no external power, no joy |
18:39.20 | rm | that's why I said "could see SOME uses" :) |
18:39.29 | rm | i.e. mostly useless, but... :D |
18:39.49 | mnemoc | :p |
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18:40.07 | mnemoc | rm: http://dx.com/p/orico-a3h10-5-0gbps-10-port-usb-3-0-hub-w-switch-led-indicator-us-plug-power-adapter-black-200218 |
18:40.36 | mnemoc | 12V/4A is almost 1A per port |
18:41.17 | mnemoc | but "just" $73 |
18:42.00 | Swat- | anyone know a recent working debian wheezy image to put on a sd-card? |
18:42.34 | mnemoc | Swat-: use rellla's debian rootfs + hwpack |
18:43.06 | mnemoc | ~160MB total |
18:44.46 | Swat- | hmm the size is good i guess :) |
18:44.58 | mnemoc | card images are a pain |
18:45.33 | Swat- | But i am a bit baffled on howto get the cubie to boot such an image. I tried out this one https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/debian-wheezy-lxde-armhf-build |
18:46.57 | Swat- | But when i write the whole image it doesn't boot, seems like many ppl are separating boot files from their os files? |
18:47.55 | Swat- | mnemoc: can you point me to the correct files in rella's repo? |
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18:48.37 | wooy | Swat-: you could use serial to see whats wrong in bootloader |
18:48.40 | mnemoc | Swat-: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/rellla/debian-unstable-armhf.tar.bz2 <--- the rootfs. device-agnostic |
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18:50.01 | rm | Swat-, did you also change the bootloader to CB's one? |
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18:53.38 | Swat- | mnemoc: thanks |
18:54.02 | Swat- | rm: no i just wanted to start simple: with 1 image, dump to sd and boot |
18:54.38 | mnemoc | Swat-: https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-bsp/blob/master/scripts/sunxi-media-create.sh <--- this script uses the rootfs + hwpack to make the card |
18:54.51 | rm | it says right in the thread that this image is for MK802ii |
18:55.03 | rm | to use on other boards you need to put the corresponding boot loader |
18:55.44 | mnemoc | Swat-: and a recent hwpack for the cb, http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/amery/testing-3.4/latest/cubieboard_hwpack.tar.xz |
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18:57.27 | Swat- | mnemoc: ok will download them and write them to the sd-card. |
18:57.50 | Swat- | rm: yes i see now, missed that. |
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19:21.53 | Swat- | mnemoc: that script is intended to run on a linux host, unfortunatly i am running mac-os-x atm :-/ |
19:22.04 | mnemoc | :( |
19:22.47 | Swat- | but i see what they are trying, basically 2 partitions, 1 vfat and 1 ext4 and then write the data to it |
19:23.21 | mnemoc | current u-boot for sunxi support single extX partition too |
19:23.40 | mnemoc | and you put the files in the /boot directory |
19:24.25 | Swat- | so when i create 1 partition and dump all files in there it should be all good? |
19:24.33 | \\Mr_C\\ | is there a way to do the newest hwpack and files to the nand and busybox only? |
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19:53.14 | Swat- | I should be able to get output on a normal pc monitor with the cubieboard right? |
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19:54.03 | \\Mr_C\\ | with what port? |
19:54.06 | \\Mr_C\\ | hdmi to vga? |
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19:54.18 | Swat- | hdmi to dvi |
19:54.25 | \\Mr_C\\ | oh |
19:54.29 | \\Mr_C\\ | hmm, maybe |
19:54.32 | Thihi | Yes. |
19:54.37 | \\Mr_C\\ | might have to adjust the settings file |
19:55.13 | Thihi | Yeah, but at least hdmi and dvi are compatible (except the almost non-existant dvi-a), so in theory it should work fine. |
19:55.35 | Swat- | Okay, well i was just booting off nand (android) but i does not output anything, except on my tv it does |
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20:10.34 | Swat- | Well i changed the output to vga in android but still nothing on my pc monitor. I guess i have a shitty monitor :-) |
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21:00.31 | Ghoom | !ls |
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21:34.31 | user_2 | Hi. I have image on uSD and it works well. they i try do "dd" the same image on /dev/nand, but after reboot with only nand, CB does not start up. what I mess? |
21:35.10 | mnemoc | nand and mmc (uSD) use different bootloaders |
21:35.40 | mnemoc | and a totally different partitions system |
21:36.33 | user_2 | so, how u vat to do to "replicate" on nand the same istallatio i have on uSD? |
21:37.33 | user_2 | there are images i can dd on nand, so how to create that image? |
21:38.32 | mnemoc | repartition the nand using the tool in sunxi-tools, format them yourself, and then rsync/tar the files from one side to the other |
21:39.29 | mnemoc | after you get a bootable nand, you can dd /dev/nand into a fat and wasteful .bin, yes |
21:39.55 | user_2 | mnemoc, there are a link you can succest me with howto inside? |
21:40.02 | mnemoc | do that a couple of times and say good bye to your nand |
21:40.06 | user_2 | suggest* |
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21:40.44 | user_2 | do you mean nand is delicate and dd destroy it? |
21:40.56 | mnemoc | user_2: it has limited amount of writes |
21:41.06 | mnemoc | user_2: a large dd will write it all, each time |
21:41.16 | user_2 | afaik, flah has at least 10000 write cicle |
21:41.35 | user_2 | till no i dd oly one time |
21:41.36 | mnemoc | fine, go ahead and wear it out |
21:42.00 | mnemoc | i prefer to not write the space that doesn't need to be written |
21:42.05 | user_2 | mnemoc, my goal is to have a installation on nand and not on uSD, just that |
21:42.22 | mnemoc | trivial to script. stupid to dd |
21:42.24 | user_2 | i never did before, so im hero to collect info to do that. |
21:42.37 | user_2 | im here* |
21:43.52 | mnemoc | as you already dd'ed the uSD into the nand you'll probably need to reflash your CB to recover from the damage |
21:44.07 | user_2 | yes i can reflash, is not a problem |
21:44.29 | mnemoc | then repartition it and replace nanda's u-boot.bin with one built from the lichee-dev branch of u-boot-sunxi |
21:44.51 | mnemoc | it needs a partition with a particular name for it's env, don't remember exactly right now |
21:45.05 | mnemoc | but everything else can be one large partition, which you just format |
21:45.30 | mnemoc | then use rsync or tar to copy your rootfs from uSD to the large nand partition |
21:45.38 | mnemoc | and the files in /boot to nanda |
21:45.46 | mnemoc | play a bit with the u-boot env, and done |
21:45.56 | user_2 | tomorrow i explore http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page deeply to look infos, not time to sleep, my mind is out or order.... anywau thanks for suggestion. |
21:46.52 | mnemoc | user_2: you might be the first to document this :) |
21:47.05 | mnemoc | search for an script posted on the sunxi ML by patrick wood |
21:47.12 | user_2 | the luky man i am :-) |
21:47.22 | suhanc | hey guys,usual question..last time i asked netbsd folks no correct result yet..any *bsd running on the cubie,using all the sensors and ethernet? |
21:47.27 | mnemoc | he made the repartitioning tool, but also posted an script to "move" from uSD to nand |
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21:47.46 | mnemoc | suhanc: dream on |
21:48.13 | mnemoc | suhanc: but http://sunxi.org/FreeBSD |
21:48.30 | mnemoc | feel free to improve that page |
21:49.01 | mnemoc | btw, OS-wise the cubieboard is "just another A10 device" |
21:49.03 | suhanc | mnemoc, yeah,that's my problem :) |
21:49.19 | mnemoc | need to sleep. good night |
21:50.00 | suhanc | gnite |
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