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10:24.04Ali_Hi all
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12:27.13wooyHey, anyone here is running saml or openid identity provider? I was thinking about shibboleth or simplesamlphp.
12:30.03mnemocG is openid provider :p
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12:36.34wooyI actually need saml more than openid, but i mentioned both.
12:42.22rmwooy, I run http://simpleid.koinic.net/
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13:46.10old-papa-workHello, anybody home?  I was wondering on the availability of the Cubie?
13:48.16Thihi_I just got mine.
13:48.25Thihi_Ordered it last week.
13:49.40old-papa-workWhere from?
13:50.49old-papa-workI'm doing R&D and looking into pcDruino, Beaglebone Black and this..
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13:51.47old-papa-workAnd UDOO quad, but that will not be avail until Sept.
13:53.17old-papa-workThihi?
13:53.49old-papa-workI can only find 1 local dealer and I think he is in California
13:54.00old-papa-workout of his house..
13:54.21Thihi_old-papa-work, sorry
13:54.32old-papa-workno prob, I'm at work too..
13:54.34Thihi_old-papa-work, I'll check the vendor, sec
13:54.39old-papa-workok..
13:55.05Thihi_It was from Miniand, and I ordered it to Finland.
13:55.10old-papa-work:)
13:55.14old-papa-workok, ty..
13:56.15old-papa-workI send em and email and see what happens..
13:56.25old-papa-workcubie----.org
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14:02.04old-papa-workI sent an email to .org..
14:08.19mnemocthere are many shops with stock. pick any and buy it
14:11.17old-papa-workI just joined the google+ page
14:11.23old-papa-workreading it now..
14:15.37mnemocwhat about the official site? http://cubieboard.org/buy/
14:16.05old-papa-workDid try to send email, but it kicked back as a bad address..
14:16.16old-papa-workLooking now..
14:17.07BigWhoop[DE]any new breakthroughs?
14:17.40old-papa-workOk, the placed I did find is listed as a distributor..
14:18.41old-papa-workI have a PO made.. Will get it anyways
14:19.03mnemocunless you buy your CB from https://cubieboard.myshopify.com (aka http://cubiestore.com), it's a reseller
14:19.23old-papa-workYup, he is a reseller
14:20.50mnemochttp://cubieluffy.taobao.com/ is also a direct shop, but taobao is only for china
14:34.47old-papa-workback,
14:36.11old-papa-workI purchase a few things from china..  Power Supplies, RJ45 to Video Baluns.. indirectly ChiMei 10.4" panels and from Germany, Controller boards for the panels..  This year alone be 1500 units.
14:36.31old-papa-workI don't purchase, located and had PO made..
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14:45.27mnemocif you want to buy large qty you are better contacting tom directly. for a couple of pieces, any distributor will do
14:45.53old-papa-workYup, will get that done..
14:46.35old-papa-workWill run it under android..  previous product has android apps in it now..  this will cut down time
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14:56.22aroddoes the CB come with android preloaded? I did connect it to a TV (HDMI) and I'm getting non signal. Red and green LED are on
14:56.28arodwhat's wrong?
14:57.07old-papa-workI have read the newer boards have android..
14:57.29old-papa-workBut I have only been researching for a day now..
14:58.28arodwell I've tried on two TVs and screen is black. I can't tell about monitors. I've got DVI only
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15:36.57BigWhoop[DE]arod you can look at the ttl to see whats wrong.
15:37.06BigWhoop[DE]you only need a cheap usb ttl converter
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15:40.03jopharod, mine had android preinstalled, but i bought it used
15:40.32jopharod, power source?
15:40.49jophi have these issues if i use a to small power supply
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17:08.51jophbut another version with metal cause the one with plastic screws has 30 days processing time...
17:18.34arodjoph, I'm using a 2A PSU, the one sold on cubieboard's shopify. It shouldn't be the issue
17:19.04arodbtw I have the B&W plastic case and it's pretty good
17:19.29old-papa-workI see that this board does draw some current..
17:28.15wooyold-papa-work: i think the board can run with 600 mA
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17:37.21old-papa-workI have read that people have issues.. just wondering..
17:37.32old-papa-workI have 12v 2.5 power packs
17:42.03BigWhoop[DE]wooy sure it could
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17:46.08mnemocold-papa-work: the cubieboard only takes 5V
17:50.39Swat-mnemoc: i called the national post agency today and guess what
17:52.06Swat-mnemoc: they delivered the package @17:00 hrs.. :-)
17:53.59mnemocSwat-: :)
17:54.22old-papa-workHmm, ok, 5 V.. The old HP Touchpad power adapters are 5v 2.5 a I think.
17:55.19old-papa-workI just sent a po to purchase the cubie and stuff from George here in USA (breadboard too.)
17:55.20mnemocany USB PSU is 5V...
17:55.35old-papa-workthe amps is the important
17:55.55mnemoc1A is good, 2A only if you want to power a SATA drive
17:56.06old-papa-workI have also have a PO out for the pcDuino and the Beaglebone Black.
17:56.29old-papa-workI might have an SATA drive, I have a bunch of 16G's
17:56.31mnemocsafe pick is to use a USB PSU for Apple devices, those need to be >2.1A
17:56.50mnemocand the usb/dc cable included with the cubie
17:57.12old-papa-workAn older project  did not fly to well, I have like 100 or was it 200 16g SSD's
17:57.19jelly-homewould 1A be enough for an extra usb (hub+ethernet) device
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17:57.53mnemocjelly-home: yes. many run their sata-less CB's only with OTG (<0.5A) power
17:58.18jelly-homehmm, satanless cubie
17:59.00mnemoci personally do it the other way around, a 4A USB hub powering the cubie
17:59.07suhancre
17:59.19mnemocand the rest of the usb things
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18:02.24jophorderd one, I hope the quality is good *g*
18:03.17Swat-if i use for instance this image: http://guillaumeplayground.net/mele-a2000-headless-debian-wheezy-armhf-with-nand-install-v1/
18:03.34Swat-And write it to nand afterwards, will i be able to boot without SD card?
18:03.51mnemocit's ancient
18:04.38mnemocbut sure, no one forces you to boot from uSD.
18:06.31mnemochttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Orico-H4928-u2-4-ports-with-5V4A-external-power-high-speed-USB2-0-USB/726812646.html <--- love this hub
18:08.09mnemocthere is a 7 ports variant, also 4A
18:08.32mnemoc(using a quality 12V/2.5A PSU)
18:09.05jelly-home"easy your pc", heh
18:09.13jelly-homelooks decent
18:10.45mnemocI have a 2x3.5 and a 4x3.5 RAID device from them too, a as it emulates a single sata, works with the cubie ;-)
18:11.09mnemoc<3 orico
18:11.36jelly-homewhich chipset do they use?
18:11.37wooymnemoc: link pls
18:11.57jelly-home(sounds like areca... so it's probably not)
18:11.58mnemoci bought the raid devices from DX years ago
18:12.26jelly-homewas A10 confirmed not to work with sata multiplexing?
18:12.33mnemocthey have esata and usb2/3 outputs
18:12.51jelly-homeor was it perhaps just the drivers
18:13.51wooyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05wpERpDriI
18:14.32mnemocwooy: the 2x3.5 is ORICO 7632RUS, but it's discontinuated
18:14.44wooyok thx
18:15.03mnemoccan't warranty the USB3 successor also emulates single sata
18:16.44wooyyeah, thats the tricky part
18:16.58rm<mnemoc> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Orico-H4928-u2-4-ports-with-5V4A-external-power-high-speed-USB2-0-USB/726812646.html <--- love this hub
18:17.04rmseems way too expensive for USB 2.0
18:18.44mnemocnot the usual cheap chinese hardware
18:19.21mnemocbut it's the best hub i've ever used
18:20.31mnemocand it does very good power managemnet, even when used as charger
18:23.35mnemocthere are usb3 variants too, and more ports. (all "way too expensive" but great).... but my laptop doesn't support usb3 anywya
18:24.34mnemoc$22 is still fair... there are models >$50 or even >$70
18:31.03rmhttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-ORICO-Portable-Super-Speed-4-ports-USB-3-0-Hub-LED-Indicator-5Gbps-Hot-swap/831942774.html
18:31.17rmcould see some uses for that one
18:31.34rmand priced a little better, while even being 3.0
18:32.26mnemocno external power, no joy
18:35.00mnemocthey have a very $nice$ 7xUSB3 hub with 12V/4A PSU
18:35.54mnemocOrico A3H7 $70-$80 :p
18:38.00mnemocdecided to buy such thing is almost as hard as buying an FTDI based usb/uart instead of a dozen $2 adapters
18:38.10mnemocs/decided/deciding/
18:39.10rm<mnemoc> no external power, no joy
18:39.20rmthat's why I said "could see SOME uses" :)
18:39.29rmi.e. mostly useless, but... :D
18:39.49mnemoc:p
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18:40.07mnemocrm: http://dx.com/p/orico-a3h10-5-0gbps-10-port-usb-3-0-hub-w-switch-led-indicator-us-plug-power-adapter-black-200218
18:40.36mnemoc12V/4A is almost 1A per port
18:41.17mnemocbut "just" $73
18:42.00Swat-anyone know a recent working debian wheezy image to put on a sd-card?
18:42.34mnemocSwat-: use rellla's debian rootfs + hwpack
18:43.06mnemoc~160MB total
18:44.46Swat-hmm the size is good i guess :)
18:44.58mnemoccard images are a pain
18:45.33Swat-But i am a bit baffled on howto get the cubie to boot such an image.  I tried out this one https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/debian-wheezy-lxde-armhf-build
18:46.57Swat-But when i write the whole image it doesn't boot, seems like many ppl are separating boot files from their os files?
18:47.55Swat-mnemoc: can you point me to the correct files in rella's repo?
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18:48.37wooySwat-: you could use serial to see whats wrong in bootloader
18:48.40mnemocSwat-: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/rellla/debian-unstable-armhf.tar.bz2 <--- the rootfs. device-agnostic
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18:50.01rmSwat-, did you also change the bootloader to CB's one?
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18:53.38Swat-mnemoc: thanks
18:54.02Swat-rm: no i just wanted to start simple: with 1 image, dump to sd and boot
18:54.38mnemocSwat-: https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-bsp/blob/master/scripts/sunxi-media-create.sh <--- this script uses the rootfs + hwpack to make the card
18:54.51rmit says right in the thread that this image is for MK802ii
18:55.03rmto use on other boards you need to put the corresponding boot loader
18:55.44mnemocSwat-: and a recent hwpack for the cb, http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/amery/testing-3.4/latest/cubieboard_hwpack.tar.xz
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18:57.27Swat-mnemoc: ok will download them and write them to the sd-card.
18:57.50Swat-rm: yes i see now, missed that.
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19:21.53Swat-mnemoc: that script is intended to run on a linux host, unfortunatly i am running mac-os-x atm :-/
19:22.04mnemoc:(
19:22.47Swat-but i see what they are trying, basically 2 partitions, 1 vfat and 1 ext4 and then write the data to it
19:23.21mnemoccurrent u-boot for sunxi support single extX partition too
19:23.40mnemocand you put the files in the /boot directory
19:24.25Swat-so when i create 1 partition and dump all files in there it should be all good?
19:24.33\\Mr_C\\is there a way to do the newest hwpack and files to the nand and busybox only?
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19:53.14Swat-I should be able to get output on a normal pc monitor with the cubieboard right?
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19:54.03\\Mr_C\\with what port?
19:54.06\\Mr_C\\hdmi to vga?
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19:54.18Swat-hdmi to dvi
19:54.25\\Mr_C\\oh
19:54.29\\Mr_C\\hmm, maybe
19:54.32ThihiYes.
19:54.37\\Mr_C\\might have to adjust the settings file
19:55.13ThihiYeah, but at least hdmi and dvi are compatible (except the almost non-existant dvi-a), so in theory it should work fine.
19:55.35Swat-Okay, well i was just booting off nand (android) but i does not output anything, except on my tv it does
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20:10.34Swat-Well i changed the output to vga in android but still nothing on my pc monitor. I guess i have a shitty monitor :-)
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21:34.31user_2Hi. I have image on uSD and it works well. they i try do "dd" the same image on /dev/nand, but after reboot with only nand, CB does not start up. what I mess?
21:35.10mnemocnand and mmc (uSD) use different bootloaders
21:35.40mnemocand a totally different partitions system
21:36.33user_2so, how u vat to do to "replicate" on nand the same istallatio i have on uSD?
21:37.33user_2there are images i can dd on nand, so how to create that image?
21:38.32mnemocrepartition the nand using the tool in sunxi-tools, format them yourself, and then rsync/tar the files from one side to the other
21:39.29mnemocafter you get a bootable nand, you can dd /dev/nand into a fat and wasteful .bin, yes
21:39.55user_2mnemoc, there are a link you can succest me with howto inside?
21:40.02mnemocdo that a couple of times and say good bye to your nand
21:40.06user_2suggest*
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21:40.44user_2do you mean nand is delicate and dd destroy it?
21:40.56mnemocuser_2: it has limited amount of writes
21:41.06mnemocuser_2: a large dd will write it all, each time
21:41.16user_2afaik, flah has at least 10000 write cicle
21:41.35user_2till no i dd oly one time
21:41.36mnemocfine, go ahead and wear it out
21:42.00mnemoci prefer to not write the space that doesn't need to be written
21:42.05user_2mnemoc, my goal is to have a installation on nand and not on uSD, just that
21:42.22mnemoctrivial to script. stupid to dd
21:42.24user_2i never did before, so im hero to collect info to do that.
21:42.37user_2im here*
21:43.52mnemocas you already dd'ed the uSD into the nand you'll probably need to reflash your CB to recover from the damage
21:44.07user_2yes i can reflash, is not a problem
21:44.29mnemocthen repartition it and replace nanda's u-boot.bin with one built from the lichee-dev branch of u-boot-sunxi
21:44.51mnemocit needs a partition with a particular name for it's env, don't remember exactly right now
21:45.05mnemocbut everything else can be one large partition, which you just format
21:45.30mnemocthen use rsync or tar to copy your rootfs from uSD to the large nand partition
21:45.38mnemocand the files in /boot to nanda
21:45.46mnemocplay a bit with the u-boot env, and done
21:45.56user_2tomorrow i explore http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page deeply to look infos, not time to sleep, my mind is out or order.... anywau thanks for suggestion.
21:46.52mnemocuser_2: you might be the first to document this :)
21:47.05mnemocsearch for an script posted on the sunxi ML by patrick wood
21:47.12user_2the luky man i am :-)
21:47.22suhanchey guys,usual question..last time i asked netbsd folks no correct result yet..any *bsd running on the cubie,using all the sensors and ethernet?
21:47.27mnemoche made the repartitioning tool, but also posted an script to "move" from uSD to nand
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21:47.46mnemocsuhanc: dream on
21:48.13mnemocsuhanc: but http://sunxi.org/FreeBSD
21:48.30mnemocfeel free to improve that page
21:49.01mnemocbtw, OS-wise the cubieboard is "just another A10 device"
21:49.03suhancmnemoc, yeah,that's my problem :)
21:49.19mnemocneed to sleep. good night
21:50.00suhancgnite
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