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| 00:43.44 | ignacio|here | HI all and Good night :) |
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| 01:39.55 | bogdan_91 | hello |
| 01:41.13 | bogdan_91 | i want to download brl-cad on my laptop, i'm running ubuntu. |
| 01:41.43 | bogdan_91 | and i saw some discussions and i want to know on what projects is the mai focus |
| 01:42.42 | bogdan_91 | so i can make a choice and start learning and make a patch for the existing code |
| 01:43.33 | bogdan_91 | last year i haven't done a patch and I don't want to make the same mistake :) |
| 01:45.19 | bogdan_91 | I have another question: I want to know the time when I will find you on irc. I'm in a different time zone and i want to develop a schedule in order to stay in touch with you |
| 02:04.42 | bogdan_91 | brlcad: and i was looking on the bugs list and i was wandering if somebody can tell me a easy bug, for a new person like me to fix |
| 02:11.55 | bogdan_91 | I was looking in refactoring at the code reduction and bug fixing. My experience with C and C++ is a medium one, with 1 and a half year in university, and also in highschool i've done C programming. |
| 02:13.09 | bogdan_91 | I think I can do a good job, and I'm looking forward to fix a bug so I can prove it to you |
| 02:34.43 | maths22 | bogdan_91: see http://brlcad.org/wiki/Deuces |
| 02:35.30 | maths22 | Obviously you would want to look at the code tasks, and if you say one your'e interested in, I can check if it has been done |
| 02:35.51 | maths22 | We need to update that page, but I'm not sure when we will get to that |
| 02:36.13 | bogdan_91 | I understand :) thank you |
| 02:39.11 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Maths22 * 6464 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2014: /* Additional Information */ We are not yet in the past-it read horribly |
| 02:42.05 | maths22 | also, IRC activity is pretty intermittent, so sometimes (by day, not time) several project members will be online and answer questions right away, and other times it takes a while |
| 02:42.42 | maths22 | what do you mean by "the mai focus"? |
| 02:57.56 | bogdan_91 | sorry, i will reformulate |
| 02:58.05 | bogdan_91 | which projects are the main focus |
| 03:01.12 | bogdan_91 | maths22: that is what I was trying to ask |
| 03:04.53 | bogdan_91 | in the virtual machine in terminal after entering "svn up brlcad.svn" , this came up: brlcad@brlcad-vm:~$ svn up brlcad.svn |
| 03:04.53 | bogdan_91 | Skipped 'brlcad.svn' |
| 03:12.04 | bogdan_91 | i will come back in a few hours(sleeping time for me). If somebody has new information i will kindly accept it here or at my email adress:margarit.bogdan91@gmail.com. Thank you! |
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| 04:11.01 | brlcad | it makes librt stateful, bad |
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| 06:13.32 | kintel | brlcad: I've got a gsoc question, if you're still up |
| 06:18.38 | brlcad | kintel: yes? |
| 06:20.08 | kintel | brlcad: (or two :))- first, you're linking to Application Guidelines and Participation Requirements on your wiki, with lots of references to your scm, wiki, etc. |
| 06:20.14 | brlcad | also, I didn't get to our e-mail today, so go ahead and proceed .. |
| 06:20.22 | brlcad | still aiming to get it out tomorrow with details on what to expect, but that need not hold up announcing participation |
| 06:20.55 | brlcad | yeah, the app guidelines and requirements are going to change |
| 06:20.57 | kintel | Do you prefer that we write our own based on that and post it on our wiki, or should I add a paragraph on OpenSCAD in those pages (mostly just for the scm, github etc. links) ? |
| 06:21.19 | kintel | ok, I'll wait for your changes first ;) |
| 06:21.56 | kintel | Second: I'm uncertain about how we deal with applications: Is there a pre-defined number of students we can take, or do we choose that based on expected workload? |
| 06:22.26 | brlcad | I'm going to draft the guidelines more generally and then call out what is specific to BRL-CAD -- at that point you can add a section for anything specific to openscad or link to your wiki |
| 06:22.45 | brlcad | but must of the guidelines are very general best practices simply learned by participating over the years |
| 06:23.32 | brlcad | the requirements definitely need to be generalized (e.g., take out the lgpl requirement) |
| 06:25.30 | brlcad | as for the apps and number of students |
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| 06:26.33 | brlcad | the plan is to do what Google does for all new participating orgs, which is basically one or two slots |
| 06:27.18 | brlcad | also depends on mentors and number of applications received, but generally is suggested to have a ratio of 2 mentors per student the first year |
| 06:28.57 | kintel | ok, makes sense. ..unless of course we find students who have already commited code to the project and are self-motivating and self-mentoring (but I assume those are rare) |
| 06:29.10 | brlcad | (note that selecting students is always painful, having to turn away qualified interested applicants, but such is gsoc .. one year we had 50 applicants for 4 slots) |
| 06:29.50 | brlcad | they are more the exception than the norm and it is just a general guideline |
| 06:30.25 | kintel | also, do you have experience with local students where interaction can be more face-to-face when needed? |
| 06:30.26 | brlcad | sometimes it's possible to go so far as 1:2 instead of 2:1 but the likelihood of retaining that student beyond gsoc drops dramatically |
| 06:31.06 | brlcad | I've mentored summer interns for many many years face-to-face, but not for gsoc |
| 06:31.33 | brlcad | you're welcome to communicate with them however is effective for your community |
| 06:31.54 | brlcad | I just ask for periodic public updates so we all can keep track of who is doing what |
| 06:32.07 | brlcad | e.g., require the student to maintain a daily log |
| 06:32.35 | kintel | yep, community involvement is one of the primary things I'd like to see |
| 06:32.39 | brlcad | maybe submit a brief summary once a month to your mailing list or to a blog, etc |
| 06:32.58 | kintel | thanks - time to write to the mailing list :) |
| 06:35.07 | ishwerdas | brlcad: I was writing a wiki page about OGV, and was just wondering if I can call it CADpen? |
| 06:35.16 | ishwerdas | call the page CADpen |
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| 07:05.28 | brlcad | sounds like pigpen |
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| 07:52.02 | ankesh11 | brlcad: Hi, I am Ankesh, just went through this year's project ideas and Building the benchmark performance database sounds exciting. |
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| 07:54.04 | ankesh11 | I have experience build web applications with PHP and Django in the past, and have played around with d3.js which should help in the visualization part. |
| 07:54.04 | ankesh11 | Could you provide me a sample log file of a benchmark run to look into? |
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| 10:16.24 | hoiji | Hi, everyone I am interested in doing a GSOC project under STEPcode corperation. Can anyone point me to the appropriate mentors? |
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| 15:26.14 | brlcad | ankesh11: hi! |
| 15:26.39 | brlcad | check out or gsoc 2013 page to see progress that was made in that area |
| 15:27.03 | brlcad | there's definitely a lot more needed, but our project description needs updating |
| 15:39.27 | brlcad | infobot: logs |
| 15:39.28 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 15:39.46 | brlcad | infobot: hello |
| 15:39.46 | infobot | niihau, brlcad |
| 15:40.56 | brlcad | infobot: factoids |
| 15:40.56 | infobot | factoids are information that infobot can learn and then reply with. "/msg infobot help" for more info. |
| 15:46.05 | brlcad | infobot: addressing |
| 15:51.51 | brlcad | ~mode |
| 15:52.07 | brlcad | infobot: mode #brlcad |
| 15:52.20 | brlcad | (pay no attention folks, just trying some things) |
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| 15:56.51 | ries | hey guys, I have ad this page edited : http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas#LibreCAD_Projects |
| 15:57.00 | ries | But my proposal for LibreCAD is changed back again. |
| 15:57.26 | brlcad | ries: no comprendo? |
| 15:57.41 | brlcad | you mean you made an edit and now it's gone? |
| 15:57.44 | ries | brlcad: yes |
| 15:57.50 | brlcad | someone might have resolved a conflict incorrectly |
| 15:58.01 | brlcad | openscad did a lot of edits yesterday |
| 15:58.12 | brlcad | maybe editing at the same time |
| 15:58.21 | ries | this was done on modnay I think... |
| 15:58.50 | brlcad | o.O you mean when the server was unreachable? :) |
| 15:59.57 | ries | brlcad: I added text ... |
| 16:00.02 | ries | But the text is gone |
| 16:00.03 | brlcad | infobot: shut up |
| 16:00.03 | infobot | I will kick you square in the vagina. |
| 16:00.08 | brlcad | heh |
| 16:00.08 | kintel | ries: I made some edits just after the server came back. Somehow, my browser decided to cache an old version of the wiki source and I lost my edits - I tried to put everything back by apparently this affected the LibreCad sections as well.. |
| 16:00.24 | ries | Ooo ok |
| 16:00.44 | brlcad | ries: if you made the change, it'll be in the history and can be recovered |
| 16:00.55 | ries | Sooooo |
| 16:01.09 | ries | How do we continue with this? I know brlcad was choosen, right? |
| 16:01.24 | ries | But how is this going to work? Not sure if this was discussed with ldi and that I am out of line... |
| 16:01.27 | brlcad | ries: yes, I'm drafting up an e-mail as we speak |
| 16:01.29 | ries | But at this moment I am confused |
| 16:01.41 | brlcad | well lets fix that right now :) |
| 16:01.50 | ries | thanks! |
| 16:06.42 | maths22 | Is this http://brlcad.org/w/index.php?title=Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas&oldid=6447 what you did? |
| 16:10.20 | ries | maths22: that's correct |
| 16:11.09 | maths22 | I will merge them |
| 16:12.23 | ankesh11 | brlcad: |
| 16:12.41 | ankesh11 | I assume you meant 2012, because this is what I found http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2012#Benchmark_Performance_Database |
| 16:13.53 | ankesh11 | An updated project description will surely help |
| 16:13.56 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Maths22 * 6468 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas: Restored old LibreCAD stuff |
| 16:13.57 | brlcad | ankesh11: maybe I did :) |
| 16:14.02 | maths22 | ries: done |
| 16:14.03 | brlcad | thanks maths22 |
| 16:14.28 | ries | thanks maths22 |
| 16:14.41 | maths22 | mediawiki edit summaries are helpful (like commit messages) |
| 16:16.49 | ankesh11 | Sorry to be apprehensive about this, but is the project likely to be extended for Soc 2014? Or should I focus on something else? |
| 16:17.22 | brlcad | ankesh11: that's a personal priority of mine, so convince me you can make it better and you have a fantastic chance |
| 16:17.56 | brlcad | projects that improve upon previous gsoc work are always a good bet because they extend existing investment |
| 16:18.52 | brlcad | like was said on our "oops" page, any student that writes a great proposal really has a great chance of acceptance (better than most orgs by far) |
| 16:19.18 | brlcad | it's the half-assed proposals or people that don't talk that hurt themselves |
| 16:21.52 | ankesh11 | Awesome. I have a few ideas in mind. I particularly feel the visualization could be done better. I will draft out a detailed mail. Meanwhile, a sample log file would help with get an idea of the benchmarks, and the parser design. |
| 16:22.53 | brlcad | ~set addressing REQUIRE |
| 16:23.24 | brlcad | ankesh11: suggest actually compiling and running the benchmark on your system.. then you'll have some logs to work with ;) |
| 16:23.51 | brlcad | also familiarizing yourself with the existing code, maybe make a minor patch mod to show you understand it |
| 16:24.00 | maths22 | what did set addressing REQUIRE do? |
| 16:24.37 | ankesh11 | Thanks.Will do that and get back to you. |
| 16:24.59 | brlcad | maths22: nothing apparently |
| 16:25.47 | maths22 | what shoud it do |
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| 16:27.13 | brlcad | ~## #brlcad addressing |
| 16:27.42 | brlcad | maths22: just trying to figure out how infobot is set up to respond without being prompted in another channel |
| 16:28.01 | maths22 | ok |
| 16:28.35 | brlcad | ~chanset #brlcad addressing |
| 16:29.03 | brlcad | it's hard mostly because this is an old version of infobot and I'm guessing |
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| 16:35.09 | kurus22 | !logs |
| 16:37.56 | maths22 | brlcad: could we set up shellinabox on the server |
| 16:38.20 | maths22 | I currently have it running at port 8080 |
| 16:38.34 | maths22 | but it is running with bad permissions, etc |
| 16:46.17 | brlcad | shellinabox? |
| 16:47.43 | kurus22 | !help |
| 16:48.11 | brlcad | starseeker: this was the syntax: svn ann svn+ssh://brlcad@svn.code.sf.net/p/brlcad/code/brlcad/trunk/mged/dozoom.c@22000 |
| 16:48.15 | brlcad | s/ann/log/ etc |
| 16:48.59 | brlcad | looks like 7699 is when it was added and it's "on the verge of being useful" |
| 16:49.50 | kurus22 | can i get chat history?? |
| 16:49.55 | brlcad | worked on for just a little bit |
| 16:49.57 | brlcad | kurus22: yeah |
| 16:49.59 | brlcad | ~logs |
| 16:49.59 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 16:50.27 | brlcad | '~' gets infobot's attention, '!' is for gsocbot |
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| 16:56.33 | brlcad | ries: so what are you confused about? |
| 16:57.38 | ries | brlcad: Currently I don't even know if LibreCAD is going to be part of gsoc |
| 16:58.00 | ries | Who decides what and who is going to do what.. |
| 16:59.04 | brlcad | ries: ah, well the project ideas page should make that clear, no? :) |
| 16:59.24 | brlcad | ries: so who are you and what's your interest, what do you know? :) |
| 17:00.06 | brlcad | I'd only heard back from one community member after confirming librecad's interest in participating |
| 17:00.44 | ries | brlcad: Let me introduce myself |
| 17:00.50 | ries | Full name is Ries van Twisk |
| 17:01.02 | brlcad | welcome |
| 17:01.18 | ries | I started the fork of qcad a couple of years ago first as a hobby to make CNC routing possible |
| 17:01.32 | ries | COnverted it into QT4 version and the folk's from LinuxCNC got interested |
| 17:01.45 | ries | so, I started to create aproject on SF.net to make this efford public |
| 17:01.54 | brlcad | how do you pronounce that? "rhy" or "ree" or "reyah"? |
| 17:01.57 | ries | I name'd my fork cadunato... but community didn't like that |
| 17:02.04 | ries | Reeees |
| 17:02.12 | brlcad | cool |
| 17:02.20 | ries | so, I asked the community for a new name, LibreCAD was choosen |
| 17:02.44 | ries | SOme bloke made a set of icon's for us to make sure we don't look like QCad anymore, hense they beautifull green set of icons :D |
| 17:02.51 | brlcad | :) |
| 17:03.06 | brlcad | is there any ties to qcad remaining? how do they feel about you guys? |
| 17:03.23 | brlcad | (or do you not know, not care) |
| 17:03.25 | ries | at beta 1, DLI started to get interested aswell aswell as Rallas |
| 17:03.39 | ries | So we put out LibreCAD 1.0 and Rallas and DLI worked on 2.x versions |
| 17:03.57 | ries | I currently maintain LibreCAD.org, wiki.librecad.org, translate.librecad.org and the IRC log |
| 17:04.22 | ries | brlcad: there is quite a bit of qcad code still, this is why we 'must' stick to GPL-v2 for the moment |
| 17:04.44 | brlcad | for modifications at least .. new code could certainly be anything |
| 17:04.47 | ries | The efford I want to put in is to do a rebuilt of LibreCAD with a 100% new codebase, so it's 100% the efford of ourselve |
| 17:04.58 | ries | new code is GPLv2 and at your option GPLv3 |
| 17:06.22 | ries | The complete new kernel I am proposing doesn't have a license yet (it's all copyright by me, although it doesn't state so) but after discussion on 'what's best' I am open to license that to anything that's best for LibreCAD |
| 17:06.54 | ries | The current codebase I worked on (2 years ago) is located here : https://github.com/rvt/kerneldev it shows my initial idea's and thoughts |
| 17:07.52 | brlcad | ries: so one of the aspects discussed for gsoc to encourage collaboration is to have the students contribute under a liberal license (unless it's a modification of existing code), like mit/bsd which can then be licensed under lgpl or gpl as needed in case the code was reusable |
| 17:07.56 | ries | so... that's me :D |
| 17:08.18 | brlcad | cool, thanks for the background (i'll try to remember!) |
| 17:08.44 | brlcad | the students can also operate under assignment, so you can do whatever you want with their code |
| 17:08.51 | ries | no problem.. I like to hide in the dark.... But mostly I did it becausre I didn't want a name (human person) to be attached to LibreCAD |
| 17:08.56 | brlcad | but it depends on the project obviously |
| 17:09.10 | ries | brlcad is gpled? |
| 17:09.23 | brlcad | we're currently lgpl as a collective work |
| 17:09.31 | brlcad | some portions are bsd, some portions are public domain |
| 17:09.42 | brlcad | we're looking into relicensing everything under mit/bsd/apache |
| 17:10.23 | ries | I am more then happy for BSD for LibreCAD |
| 17:10.28 | brlcad | reciprocity isn't a major concern of mine, collaboration is where it's at ;) |
| 17:11.14 | brlcad | ries: so a deep long term thought for you |
| 17:11.28 | brlcad | we (and when I say we, I generally mean "BRL-CAD") |
| 17:11.35 | brlcad | we don't do 2D |
| 17:11.45 | brlcad | at least not very well, and we don't want to |
| 17:13.06 | brlcad | it would be awesome to some day have a combined distribution where (like with catia and autocad) you can switch back and forth from 2D and 3D editing modes, which would intrinsically switch from librecad and brl-cad bidirectionally, seamlessly |
| 17:13.37 | brlcad | if you pull up some 2d geometry for editing, a sketch, it'd kick over to librecad, you do your thing, switch back to brl-cad, extrude it, render it in 3D, etc |
| 17:14.22 | brlcad | just a seed of a thought to plant, 5 years out ;) |
| 17:15.04 | ries | brlcad: this is not a deep thought for me |
| 17:15.14 | ries | the 'kernel' I am proposing can do exactly that |
| 17:16.07 | ries | it uses some techniques that allows us to not only have a 'in memory' representation of a model, but also allow to store this within a database, or rest service if you like |
| 17:16.09 | brlcad | you mean you're going to extend into 3D or that you can already get 2D data in/out? |
| 17:16.49 | ries | I am proposing in my 'kernel' that all objects are immutable and as such they can only exist one object of a time anywhere |
| 17:17.13 | ries | updating works through a vert precise API where we can update the document. |
| 17:17.37 | brlcad | I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing |
| 17:17.46 | ries | it already contain's indea's for storing meta data, for exampla if BRL CAD holds a ID for a specific entity, you can store that in the doucment and pull it back into librecad |
| 17:17.51 | ries | so... |
| 17:17.55 | brlcad | I'm talking about high-level user functionality, you're talking about low-level developer capability |
| 17:18.15 | ries | that means that if librecad want's to communicate with brlcad to store entities, we can do this.. |
| 17:18.38 | ries | Just like Catia (I know Pro Engineer wildfire better) you can create a sketcher and extrude that later on |
| 17:19.15 | ries | brlcad: so high level, yes this can be done and this was also (part) of the reason for doing this |
| 17:20.24 | brlcad | fyi, we also have an ACIS-style geometry kernel that's been in the works for a number of years, but low priority this year |
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| 17:21.09 | brlcad | our existing geometry engine is extensive, but very complicated and inconsistent |
| 17:21.27 | brlcad | exceptionally featured and high-performance, but not well organized |
| 17:21.40 | brlcad | especially now that we have BREP/NURBS support |
| 17:22.13 | brlcad | my intention is that we'll start small with a simple geometry conversion library so we can translate data in/out more easily |
| 17:22.15 | ries | brlcad: these kernel's are differcult... |
| 17:22.28 | brlcad | yep |
| 17:23.11 | brlcad | so I'd be interested in reading more about your kernel ideas if you have anything written down or plan to |
| 17:23.16 | ries | At the current stage I don't believe that LibreCAD is really well capable of doing what we want to do |
| 17:23.22 | brlcad | there's maybe some room to collaborate there as well |
| 17:23.25 | maths22 | shellinabox-http ssh client |
| 17:23.43 | maths22 | would make sssh easier behind school firewall |
| 17:23.50 | ries | brlcad: I will make a write up on it, but it will be a bit technical, is that ok for you? |
| 17:24.18 | brlcad | ries: I'm okay with technical so long as terms are defined |
| 17:24.35 | brlcad | what "entity" means to you might not be the same as it means to me |
| 17:24.49 | brlcad | ditto for what constitutes a model |
| 17:24.59 | ries | brlcad: just a sec, got a phonecall |
| 17:28.04 | brlcad | point earlier was that our intention (at least my intention) is that BRL-CAD predominantly focuses on 3D solid modeling, and that we'll continue to do |
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| 17:28.58 | brlcad | but we still want and will need to support 2D editing techniques (within our 3D solid modeling domain), and for that I see benefit in bridging to your infrastructure |
| 17:30.00 | brlcad | for that to work, we're going to need more than a kernel/lib/interface where objects can be passed back and forth |
| 17:32.00 | brlcad | there's also a user interface component, there's a translation component (some entity attribute you describe that we don't understand or vice-versa), and data integrity/validation |
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| 17:37.13 | brlcad | maths22: are you asking or telling or just talking? :) |
| 17:37.26 | maths22 | asking |
| 17:37.36 | brlcad | ah, so what's the question?? :) |
| 17:37.42 | brlcad | you want it installed? |
| 17:37.43 | maths22 | http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=www&portname=shellinabox&wildcard= |
| 17:37.48 | maths22 | can it be installed |
| 17:38.55 | starseeker | ries: from a 2D editing perspective in particular, I'm curious whether Gecode (www.gecode.org) could serve as a backend for constraint based editing |
| 17:51.01 | brlcad | maths22: so long as it's set up under https, I suppose so |
| 17:53.41 | brlcad | maths22: installed |
| 17:53.54 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59983 brlcad/trunk/include/dm.h: Note key points for plugin approach - check liboptical |
| 17:55.58 | maths22 | It is running. Take a look at brlcad.org:8080 |
| 17:56.48 | maths22 | I'm not sure why it wants to run the quicktime plugin, but it works |
| 18:02.51 | maths22 | I like this one because it is not blocked by firewall and only needs js, not Java, to run |
| 18:03.23 | maths22 | It even has an onscreen keyboard so I can ctrl-w without closing my window in chrome |
| 18:06.40 | maths22 | It auto redirects to https, although, as a self-signed certificate, it obviously rasies security warnings |
| 18:19.39 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Inderpreet * 6469 /wiki/Online_Geometry_Viewer_Infrastructure: Added brief info about threejs |
| 18:21.35 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Inderpreet * 6470 /wiki/Online_Geometry_Viewer_Infrastructure: |
| 18:25.16 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 59984 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp: fix memory leak |
| 18:40.52 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 59985 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp: move overlap curve splitting to separate function |
| 18:48.34 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 59986 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp: fix conditional; said i, meant j |
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| 18:58.50 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 59987 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp: add helper to handle duplicated conditions |
| 19:15.07 | bogdan_91 | in the virtual machine in terminal after entering "svn up brlcad.svn" , this came up: brlcad@brlcad-vm:~$ svn up brlcad.svn Skipped 'brlcad.svn' |
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| 19:51.10 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 59989 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp: replace another overlap check |
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| 19:51.58 | maths22 | that was strange-I saw my own quit message |
| 19:53.09 | bogdan_91 | sure looks like it :) |
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| 20:21.00 | prince_ | i would like to write to write a unit test for quat_quat2mat and qaut_mat2quat funtions in qmath.c of libbn in order to familiarize myself with unittesting but i would need some directives since i am new to unittesting |
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| 20:43.56 | brlcad | bogdan_91: ls -la brlcad.svn |
| 20:44.02 | brlcad | do you see a bunch of files and dirs? |
| 20:44.56 | brlcad | prince_: directives as in? |
| 20:45.01 | brlcad | "do it!" |
| 20:45.04 | brlcad | how's that? |
| 20:46.54 | prince_ | directives as in how to get reference values |
| 20:47.39 | brlcad | you create some |
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| 20:48.53 | brlcad | so you have to perform the math manually or find some examples online or some other reference that doesn't utilize our functions, then call our functions and compare the result |
| 20:51.33 | prince_ | thanks i would work on that |
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| 21:37.46 | javampire | I have just updated from svn, and I get a strange result when running "install", in the deployed "include" directory in the "bu.h" file is full of lines like: |
| 21:37.47 | javampire | #include "./bu/cv.h" |
| 21:38.25 | javampire | I wonder why the "./bu/" part is there ? It is plain wrong... |
| 21:39.39 | starseeker | javampire: um. We're in the process of breaking libbu's header out into smaller headers |
| 21:40.06 | starseeker | I haven't checked the install part yet - thanks for the reminder |
| 21:40.09 | javampire | ok, but the include file is currently just wrong, there's no bu subdirectory in the include dir |
| 21:40.18 | starseeker | there is in the source tree |
| 21:40.50 | javampire | where should I look for fixing it, I need the include dir to work... |
| 21:41.07 | starseeker | it's currently in include/CMakeLists.txt - give me a few minutes |
| 21:41.12 | starseeker | should be a quick fix |
| 21:41.19 | javampire | ok, thanks ! |
| 21:55.34 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59990 brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt: Need to make sure the bu sub-headers actually get installed. True for others too - those are next. |
| 21:57.17 | javampire | brlcad: if I would add some possible tasks for GSOC regarding python-brlcad, where to send it ? Mailing list is OK ? |
| 22:14.24 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59991 brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt: Fix the rest of the header installs |
| 22:14.36 | starseeker | javampire: that should do it |
| 22:15.48 | javampire | starseeker: thanks, will try now |
| 22:23.08 | javampire | starseeker: still not OK, now the subdirs have problem finding the "common.h" |
| 22:24.39 | starseeker | which directory are you including? |
| 22:24.44 | starseeker | i.e. -I |
| 22:28.19 | starseeker | common.h should be in the same directory as bu.h itself |
| 22:30.46 | starseeker | you don't need to include the subdirs - if you want to include one of the files in them, you do #include "rt/search.h" and then -I/usr/brlcad/rel-7.24.1/include/brlcad |
| 22:34.36 | javampire | ERROR: /usr/bin/gcc -E: /home/csaba/deploy/brlcad/dev-7.24.1/include/brlcad/./bu/defines.h:54:20: fatal error: common.h: No such file or directory |
| 22:34.36 | javampire | ERROR: /usr/bin/gcc -E: #include "common.h" |
| 22:35.13 | javampire | bu/defines.h is included from bu.h, and seemingly it fails |
| 22:36.15 | javampire | this is used in python-brlcad, which only needs to pre-process the headers, and I'm not sure if it does it right or not, but it did work before |
| 22:38.25 | starseeker | what's your gcc compile line? |
| 22:39.45 | starseeker | is it just gcc -E or does it have -I/home/csaba/deploy/brlcad/dev-7.24.1/include/brlcad as well? |
| 22:43.15 | starseeker | or if it's running gcc *in* brlcad/bu, you could try adding -I.. |
| 22:54.05 | javampire | the command line is: /usr/bin/gcc -E -U __GNUC__ -dD -I/home/csaba/deploy/brlcad/dev-7.24.1/include "-Dinline=" "-D__inline__=" "-D__extension__=" "-D__const=const" "-D__asm__(x)=" "-D__asm(x)=" "-DCTYPESGEN=1" "/tmp/tmp9R8UOf.h" |
| 22:54.32 | javampire | don't ask me what exactly is in the temp file, but it should be a copy of bu.h I guess |
| 22:54.56 | javampire | plus some ctypesgen extra stuff which I don't control completely |
| 22:56.06 | javampire | the command line is under control of ctypesgen |
| 23:01.32 | javampire | starseeker: I have to leave now, and will have time to try only in the weekend again... |
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