| 00:00.12 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39246 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpkg/tpkg.c: Simple typo fix Wierd->Weird |
| 00:26.41 | ``Erik | huh, an a-team movie :/ |
| 00:38.58 | ``Erik | w00t, 7.16.8 meta is in the fbsd ports tree |
| 01:01.19 | starseeker | ``Erik: arrgh - what configure options? |
| 01:02.22 | starseeker | is sure the features will take off once the basic opengl stuff is working... it's like being taunted by the code |
| 01:14.55 | ``Erik | for those errors, "./configure --enable-optimized --with-ogl --enable-rtgl --enable-togl" |
| 01:15.15 | ``Erik | when I do "./configure --enable-optimized --with-ogl --enable-rtgl --enable-togl --enable-tcl-build --enable-tk-build" I get errors about not finding GL/gl.h |
| 01:16.06 | ``Erik | (should probably add --with-agl or something) |
| 01:24.42 | ``Erik | hm, f.lux is actually pretty nifty |
| 01:30.44 | starseeker | ``Erik: this is on a mac? |
| 01:31.09 | ``Erik | yes |
| 01:31.24 | starseeker | I don't suppose you can upgrade to the latest Xquartz? |
| 01:31.57 | ``Erik | I thought I did just a couple weeks ago |
| 01:32.41 | ``Erik | hm, taking out the --enable-ogl and --enable-rtgl and adding --enable-agl, togl compiles but fails to link |
| 01:33.13 | starseeker | not surprised - agl was something I was putting in for an apple native version of the ogl display manager |
| 01:33.26 | starseeker | it's Not Ready Yet :-/ |
| 01:34.16 | ``Erik | if I manually add -L/usr/X11/lib to the link line for togl, it links... once it's done compiling, I'll install and see how bad I munged things up :D |
| 01:34.37 | starseeker | doe adding --with-x11=/usr/X11 do anything? |
| 01:34.47 | starseeker | ``Erik: thanks :-) |
| 01:36.45 | starseeker | it might be one of those cases where the configure.in isn't properly sucking in the autotools settings we supply |
| 01:36.48 | starseeker | growl... |
| 01:37.08 | ``Erik | highly possible |
| 01:37.25 | ``Erik | I had to do ugly things to set things up for tkhtml3 to catch the right bits |
| 01:37.32 | starseeker | nods |
| 01:38.03 | starseeker | kinda ironic given how much we use tcl/tk, but we sure do have a conflicting world view of How To Build Stuff |
| 01:39.00 | ``Erik | kinda smells like tcl saw auto*, then got a sudden outbreak of "we need something like that, but, uh, nih!" |
| 01:39.17 | starseeker | they actively despise libtool |
| 01:40.12 | ``Erik | libtool becomes hugely useful when you start considering more than one platform :/ |
| 01:40.16 | starseeker | eyes the pure-autotools build of tcl he started working on... |
| 01:40.43 | starseeker | was considering finishing that up and putting it on github... |
| 01:40.52 | ``Erik | would rather see a pure auto* tkhtml3 and togl *cough* |
| 01:41.02 | starseeker | nods |
| 01:41.15 | starseeker | the problem is, we have to supply something that works for package require |
| 01:41.21 | ``Erik | in general, system provided tcl and tk are there... tkhtml3 and togl are... not |
| 01:41.24 | ``Erik | yeh |
| 01:41.24 | starseeker | same basic problem we hit with the isst stuff |
| 01:41.46 | starseeker | that might actually be a workable solution, to use the module and specialized prefix thing |
| 01:42.07 | ``Erik | <-- notes that the GL bits for isst are very trivial, if that's the actual concern, rolling our own wrapper would be trivial *shrug* |
| 01:42.17 | starseeker | nods. |
| 01:42.36 | ``Erik | and the dm/fb stuff is also very trivial gl stuff |
| 01:42.54 | starseeker | I thought it was a good excuse to try out togl, since if it does work as advertised we will have a "well behaved" tcl/tk widget that is also opengl |
| 01:43.55 | starseeker | I'm pretty sure I'm just doing something stupidly wrong, since I tried to do a straight-ish copy of the SDL logic |
| 01:44.46 | ``Erik | um, the stuff I wrote assumes things prepared the way sdl prepares them... the togl stuff I saw looked very glut, there might be a couple little things that're different |
| 01:44.53 | ``Erik | like defaulting to single buffer instead of double |
| 01:45.14 | starseeker | erahum |
| 01:45.20 | ``Erik | do a glut tutorial or two, it might help ya understand the togl mindset a bit better |
| 01:45.33 | ``Erik | (if I read what I saw of togl correctly... which is basically the gears demo) |
| 01:45.40 | starseeker | nods |
| 01:45.59 | starseeker | except I believe the gears thing had a SwapBuffer call in there |
| 01:46.03 | ``Erik | glut is a really neat library for quick and dirty opengl experiments anyways |
| 01:46.50 | ``Erik | hm, what was the issue? junk texture? |
| 01:47.04 | starseeker | seemed to be |
| 01:47.13 | starseeker | either garbage or a blank screen (what I get here) |
| 01:47.34 | ``Erik | 'blank'? |
| 01:47.38 | starseeker | black |
| 01:47.46 | ``Erik | you mean, like, the garbage in your texture data is all 0's? |
| 01:47.47 | ``Erik | :D |
| 01:47.53 | starseeker | probably |
| 01:48.04 | starseeker | you'll see if you get it compiled |
| 01:48.31 | ``Erik | if ya turn off texturing and give it a glColor3D(), does it 'seem to work correctly'? (is it 3D? or 3i? hrm) |
| 01:48.34 | ``Erik | 3i I bet |
| 01:51.44 | ``Erik | well, glColor3d(1.0, 1.0, 1.0); or glColor3i(255, 255, 255); |
| 01:51.46 | ``Erik | should be the same |
| 01:52.55 | starseeker | tries that... |
| 01:54.26 | ``Erik | wow, that american dad had a few ... very... disturbing bits O.o stan saying "ooh! fresh panties for the ride home!" in a parody of the ending of aliens O.o |
| 01:54.40 | ``Erik | er, alien, rather |
| 01:56.03 | starseeker | can't immediately get it to show a color... what else do I need to turn off here... |
| 01:57.15 | starseeker | gah |
| 01:57.34 | starseeker | is tempted to put the gear bits back in, just as a sanity check... |
| 01:58.35 | ``Erik | you turned off texturing, right? |
| 01:59.02 | starseeker | I commented out the enable - do I need to explicitly disable? |
| 01:59.34 | ``Erik | opengl is a state machine without a known start state, try doing glDisable(GL_TEXTURE_2D); |
| 01:59.42 | ``Erik | where the glEnable was |
| 01:59.46 | starseeker | k |
| 02:00.42 | ``Erik | (that state machine comment... that's why you got the junk buffer, and something that confuses the crap out of a lot of c++ programmers, probably worse for lisp programmers...) |
| 02:01.10 | starseeker | ``Erik: still won't work for you there? |
| 02:01.36 | ``Erik | isst_tcltk.h is failing, togl.h is expecting things to be set that aren't or something |
| 02:01.49 | starseeker | growl |
| 02:02.17 | starseeker | you could try with --enable-aqua-tk |
| 02:02.34 | starseeker | and --disable-X11 |
| 02:02.46 | starseeker | or --disable-x11 maybe |
| 02:03.09 | ``Erik | I shoved a #define TOGL_AGL into isst_tcltk.c |
| 02:03.12 | ``Erik | compile is continuing |
| 02:03.49 | ``Erik | this is gonna be one hell of a bastardized build heh |
| 02:03.54 | starseeker | hehe |
| 02:04.10 | starseeker | you don't have a local BSD box with X11 on it? |
| 02:05.04 | ``Erik | not with enough disk space to deal with all this docbook and opennurbs and step crap |
| 02:05.21 | starseeker | O.o |
| 02:06.27 | starseeker | , in desperation, removes everything but what should be the bare essentials and grabs a simple opengl example from the web |
| 02:06.34 | ``Erik | ya don't remember me bitching up a storm when ya added all the docbook stuff? :D |
| 02:06.41 | starseeker | oh, I do |
| 02:06.52 | starseeker | thought you might crack and get a somewhat larger harddrive though |
| 02:06.53 | ``Erik | 'sides, it's 10 on a sunday |
| 02:06.57 | starseeker | true |
| 02:07.22 | ``Erik | oh, I got a big hard drive, it's just not wired to that machine, it's waiting for me to finish preparing the arm box to replace my server |
| 02:07.40 | starseeker | nods |
| 02:07.46 | ``Erik | it's a race to see who's slowest, which migration will be last? arm or bz? :D *duck* |
| 02:13.27 | ``Erik | well, got it to fire up on my mac, junk in the texture |
| 02:13.44 | ``Erik | goddamnit, now I suppose you expect ME to fix it |
| 02:14.39 | ``Erik | lets see, -double true, hm |
| 02:18.08 | starseeker | ``Erik: I'll take all the help I can get - I was hoping it might be a trivial thing for you to spot... |
| 02:18.50 | starseeker | maybe I'm doing something wrong initing the TIE stuff... |
| 02:26.24 | ``Erik | well, I get 1 frame to display correctly |
| 02:31.25 | starseeker | ?? |
| 02:31.26 | starseeker | how |
| 02:33.30 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39247 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: make reshape call resize_isst. pass correct info around. etc. |
| 02:34.19 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39248 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: make reshape call resize_isst. pass correct info around. etc. |
| 02:34.26 | ``Erik | damnit |
| 02:44.41 | starseeker | O.o |
| 02:46.18 | starseeker | well, that's something |
| 02:46.24 | starseeker | ``Erik: thanks! |
| 02:47.13 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39249 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: Shouldn't need to force this - need to check build logic on Mac for X11 |
| 02:49.02 | ``Erik | damnit |
| 02:49.54 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39250 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: fix more stuff, ditch frustum/perspective stuff, ditch global |
| 02:50.40 | starseeker | ``Erik: oh, sorry - I'll leave the TOGL_AGL thing alone until you're done |
| 02:51.51 | ``Erik | nah, I moved it into the makefile |
| 02:51.58 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39251 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: typo |
| 02:52.16 | ``Erik | just threw a commit, moved on, then realized it failed on 'not up to date' |
| 02:52.29 | ``Erik | well |
| 02:52.31 | starseeker | O.o - now I get 3 ktanks :-) |
| 02:52.34 | ``Erik | there's something there, but something ain't right |
| 02:52.35 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 02:53.14 | starseeker | <marketing hat>New - three for the price of one!</marketing hat> |
| 02:54.16 | starseeker | prints the actual values width and height are getting - SDL was doing something with those involving a rectangle... |
| 02:55.03 | ``Erik | um, yeah, that was done for the software blit, the opengl variant SHOULDN'T be using those, just leftovers |
| 02:55.23 | ``Erik | meh |
| 02:55.27 | ``Erik | something to do tomorrie |
| 02:55.48 | starseeker | cool - thanks ``Erik ! |
| 02:57.46 | ``Erik | heh, http://effinfunny.com/legend-of-neil/seasons?vid=342&sid=1 |
| 02:57.56 | ``Erik | (parody of 'legend of zelda') |
| 02:59.08 | starseeker | shame-facedly admits to never having played Legend of Zelda |
| 02:59.48 | ``Erik | neither have I, *shrug* still find it funny :D |
| 03:00.10 | ``Erik | heh, I got through most of 8bit theater before I realized it was a parody of final fantasy... |
| 03:02.44 | ``Erik | whistles innocently |
| 03:02.50 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39252 10/isst/trunk/sdl/main.c: fix memory leak on resize |
| 03:06.57 | starseeker | confirms rendering of first frame is real - what an odd behavior with the three windows |
| 03:07.09 | starseeker | and of course resizing is a disaster |
| 03:07.26 | starseeker | still, progress |
| 03:08.05 | ``Erik | might mean the values being passed in are not quite right, it's very sensitive to that |
| 03:08.32 | ``Erik | (it looks like the width between the isst context and texture are not quite the same) |
| 03:15.19 | starseeker | is guessing that sucks to debug? |
| 03:15.37 | starseeker | hah, cool! http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nphys1652.html |
| 03:16.23 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39253 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: Add some color to make sure the billboard is sane. Ditch duplicate variables. |
| 03:21.03 | starseeker | neat! |
| 03:21.09 | starseeker | strange, but neat! |
| 03:21.36 | ``Erik | if you turn off texturing, it becomes obvious why |
| 03:21.39 | ``Erik | :D |
| 03:22.29 | starseeker | ah :-) |
| 03:32.01 | starseeker | ``Erik: it looks like the first time resize_isst is called, the camera width and height are at 400, 400 |
| 03:32.19 | starseeker | (altering the tcl script to init with that window size results in something sane looking |
| 03:32.20 | ``Erik | yes, which'd be the default size for those |
| 03:32.46 | ``Erik | amusingly, if you set isst->gs to 1, it all seems tow ork kinda ok |
| 03:33.25 | ``Erik | meh |
| 03:34.30 | starseeker | is at something of a loss as to why it's getting 400,400... |
| 03:35.13 | ``Erik | since 400x400 is the widget default, I'd assume it inits, then it sends a resize for the real size |
| 03:35.37 | starseeker | which should update the isst struct as well |
| 03:35.50 | ``Erik | I'm sure you could figure out where the togl source is to verify that *cough* :D |
| 03:36.07 | ``Erik | yes.... setting the gs makes things almost work right |
| 03:36.22 | ``Erik | gridsize, that's what gs stands for |
| 03:36.42 | ``Erik | the 'shame' knob :D |
| 03:37.23 | starseeker | <blink> |
| 03:37.29 | starseeker | yeah, that does do something |
| 03:37.33 | starseeker | O.o |
| 03:37.52 | ``Erik | we can look at it tomorrow morning *shrug* |
| 03:37.59 | starseeker | sounds good |
| 03:38.07 | starseeker | packs it in |
| 03:41.07 | ``Erik | is that nature article the thing that was on slashdot friday for power from bioengineered goop? |
| 03:41.30 | starseeker | dunno - saw it today as a discussion of the core nature of photosynthesis |
| 03:42.33 | ``Erik | they want $'s for anything more than the abstract :/ |
| 03:42.34 | starseeker | yeah, sucks |
| 03:42.44 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39254 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst.h: We have this line in the c file for now. |
| 03:42.46 | ``Erik | and we've both written enough abstracts to know how much they really relate to the good stuff |
| 03:44.13 | starseeker | maybe we can get a look at it tomorrow |
| 03:44.32 | starseeker | there must be some way to relate it to CAD :-P |
| 03:45.02 | ``Erik | from nature? O.o we have ieee, acm, and a few others, but I don't think we have nature |
| 03:45.11 | starseeker | bah |
| 03:45.49 | ``Erik | suppose you could chuck it to a librarian as a 'curiosity' class thing *shrug* I d'no |
| 03:48.08 | starseeker | nah, I doubt they'd support pure curiosity without an immediate application in mind |
| 03:48.33 | starseeker | hmm - 320 works for camera.w, and so does 640 |
| 03:49.32 | starseeker | and 1280 |
| 03:49.51 | starseeker | tank shifted a little south in all 3 |
| 03:50.02 | starseeker | finer resultion at higher numbers |
| 03:50.09 | starseeker | smacks self and goes to bed |
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| 11:00.21 | d-lo | Mernin all |
| 11:02.49 | d-lo | brlcad: Been reading up on libpkg.... is there a way for a pkg_client to send any form of signal when data is available (aka NIO style) or is it purely a blocking approach? |
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| 13:46.06 | starseeker | O.o still getting a bwish crash - must not be freeing something somewhere |
| 13:50.25 | ``Erik | yet you still haven't used gdb |
| 13:51.07 | ``Erik | d-lo: libpkg is very simple, we were talking about having callbacks added at some point (to migrate adrt's network stuff), but I think it's blocking only... can always set up a polling thread |
| 13:52.39 | starseeker | ``Erik: was trying to make sense of the log file |
| 14:11.18 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39255 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: Reset the index to 0, fixes rendering and realloc issues - remove debugging colors. |
| 14:17.50 | ``Erik | log file? huh? |
| 14:31.51 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39256 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: look function for motion/rotation |
| 14:36.10 | d-lo | ``Erik: Yeah, I was trying to avoid polling. Works okay for a few connections but doesn't scale well at all. |
| 15:12.48 | ``Erik | yeah, some os's start getting bogged down as early as 30,000 or so, not many survive past a million |
| 15:12.51 | ``Erik | O:-) |
| 15:13.24 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39257 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/ (Makefile.am gears.tcl isst.tcl): It's not a gear demo any more. |
| 15:20.57 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39258 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/isst_tcltk.c: add render_mode tcl func for selecting shader |
| 15:25.50 | d-lo | Well, tbh, I don't really envision the GS getting any more than 2500-3000 connections at a time. |
| 15:49.30 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39259 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/ (isst.tcl isst_tcltk.c): Number keys will toggle shader modes now. |
| 18:02.55 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39260 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/ (isst.h isst.tcl isst_tcltk.c): I doubt this is the 'right' way, but it does produce movement of the model based on mouse motion. |
| 18:50.22 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39261 10/isst/trunk/sdl/event.c: change F11 to switch to/from fullscreen and f to move down |
| 18:51.48 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39262 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/tclsh/library/installTree.tcl: Added code for creating source files in tkhtml3. |
| 18:58.08 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39263 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Added projects for tkhtml and tkpng. |
| 19:01.53 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39264 10/brlcad/trunk/src/archer/archer: If on windows, add Tkhtml3.0 to the auto_path so that the package require for Tkhtml works. |
| 19:13.40 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39265 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/tclsh/library/installTree.tcl: Added code to create the pkgIndex.tcl file for tkhtml. |
| 20:12.30 | starseeker | growl |
| 20:13.42 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39266 10/isst/trunk/sdl/myplugin.c: a slightly more involved plugin example: Xray style (sorta like rtxray), painting odd triangle counts red. |
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| 22:12.13 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r39267 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/obj-g_new.c: adding functions to test surface closure |
| 23:51.52 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39268 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/ (isst.tcl isst_tcltk.c): This puts a little more of the movement logic in tcl land, but not all of it. |