IRC log for #brlcad on 20091217

00:24.11``Erikstarseeker: I've no idea, I did a build as I left, but I've been driving, waiting for accident cleanup, and grocery shopping :D
00:24.28starseekerah :-)
00:24.49starseekerOh, are you redeemed now that 7.16.2 is installed?
00:25.26``Erikhuh? installed on what? O.o
00:25.53``Erik<-- was still working on stripping down and building up a box for the port testing
00:26.04starseekerISST
00:26.12``Erikas for deployment, I still haven't chucked binaries around yet
00:26.19starseekerah
00:26.41``Erikponders a q&d http query to alert people when an upgrade is available automagically
00:30.45``Erikbought a nice fat ny strip, but it's already late and he's tired :(
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07:16.34talciteare we using tnt v1.26 or v.3.11?
07:16.51talcitetechnically v3.11 is beta, but it's over a year old already
07:17.31talcitebest part is that TNT doesn't come with any readmes or anything. Can't tell by looking at the package usually =)
07:29.19talciteOh and we're using Jama as well?
07:39.14talciteHmm. Nevermind, it looks like we're using 3.05. Found it in tnt_vec.h =S
07:40.35talciteIs there likely to be a problem if we upgrade to 3.11? 3.05 source is no longer available at the TNT site.
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15:17.17``Erikwell now, tkpng is an odd monkey
15:19.21brlcadodd in the sense that he doesn't fling poo ?
15:19.25``Eriksuspects that it could be dumped and redone in very short order without the TEA weirdness
15:19.44``Erikit implements it's own subset of PNG parsing/writing instead of just using libpng
15:21.37``Erikthe build for it is also fickle, I get crud about missing the symbol 'pow' in some places, the configure looks for it, but never tries to use it
15:24.42``Erikimagines starseeker may've spent more effort trying to integrate it than it woulda taken to bridge between Tk_CreatePhotoImageFormat and libpng :)
15:25.56``Erikponders adding pix and bw tk image thingies to libtclcad
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15:38.32CIA-38BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36933 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: improvements to ADRT's cut mode
15:41.51``Erikdiff vs tag in svn is klugy :(
15:48.23starseeker``Erik: it should go away altogether once Tk8.6 is out and we have it integrated
15:48.30``Erikah, 'k
15:48.38``Erikdidn't know 86 had core png support
15:48.47starseekerthey're apparently basing it off of tkpng's code, too :-)
15:49.07starseekerso I figured if we could work using tkpng, we stood a good chance of working with vanilla 8.6
15:50.00``Erikwow, 86b1, dec 23 2008...
15:50.11``Eriklong beta
15:50.30starseekeryeah, they're doing some major rework of the Alpha OSX backend
15:50.41starseekerer Aqua even
15:51.18``Erikponders installing 86 on a bsd box (it's in ports) and trying to compile BRL-CAD against it O.o
15:52.24starseeker``Erik: might be interesting
15:52.49starseekerwill need to do it at some point, and I expect your bsd box will complain as loud or louder than anything else ;-)
15:53.01``Erik(or making starseeker do it, since he has accounts on all these bsd boxen)
16:09.42brlcadstarseeker: so the problem with van's code I think was isolated
16:10.02brlcadso you know, he was initializing his own resource structures (for smp processing)
16:10.18brlcadbut even when you do that, you still have to init the rt_uniresource
16:10.48brlcadas there are many non-smp routines throughout librt that rely on the rt_uniresource for processing
16:10.56starseekeryeah, he emailed me too :-)
16:11.18starseekerexcellent
16:11.20brlcadhe didn't know that was the problem, I noticed just when I saw that snippet
16:11.29starseekerheh
16:11.30brlcadthat snippet is bad
16:11.41brlcadit's not either, have to do both
16:40.44talcitehey guys. Did you use the 1.2.5 version of JAMA with the TNT stuff?
16:42.31talciteJAMA doesn't have version information in the comments like TNT did. Neither have readmes etc.
16:50.52brlcadtalcite: not sure
16:51.00brlcaddoesn't look like it was documented at the time
16:51.22brlcadthe latest of both should work just fine
16:51.50talcitesounds good. I'll package those tomorrow night
17:17.08brlcadstarseeker: have the pics
17:20.02brlcad11 and 4 are probably the best, but you pick
17:20.53brlcader, 12, and 4
17:31.47brlcadmaybe 6
17:32.05brlcadhttp://brlcad.org/tmp/marching_tets/
17:32.21brlcad12 is probably the more interesting angle
17:48.30brlcadcd tkpng && make  LIBTOOL="../../../libtool --mode=link" LIBTOOLDIR=".libs/" LIBS="-lz" all
17:48.34brlcadmake[4]: *** No rule to make target `all'.  Stop.
17:49.23starseekererm
17:49.58starseekerbrlcad: cool, thanks :-)
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19:00.17brlcadstarseeker: nicely done!
19:07.33``Erik*yawn*
19:12.21``Erikjama 1.2.5 and tnt 1.2.6
19:16.06brlcadhow'd you figure that out?
19:24.57CIA-38BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36934 10/brlcad/trunk/ (21 files in 9 dirs): assume c89, no longer define USE_PROTOTYPES directly. leave it up to the compiler, but still don't even check for it since we assume at least c89.
19:41.33starseekerbrlcad: thanks! :-)
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20:11.09``Erikwild guess :D those've been the released ones for ages (and what I use as deps in fbsd)
20:14.49``Eriklooking at diffs of the file, only jaam_lu.h is any different, using NEAR_ZERO and renaming piv to pivot
20:17.47``Erikand ayup, the diff's of jama_lu.h make it look like all those differences were added on dec 02, 2009 by someone named 'brlcad' :) it's 1.2.5
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22:51.39``Erikhuh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dadPWhEhVk wonder what his software stack was
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