IRC log for #brlcad on 20080622

00:07.39atenok, thanks
00:37.10brlcadnp
00:49.41CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31534 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc9/libged/libged.vcproj: sync with vc8 project files, add a slew missing
00:52.44CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31535 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc9/libged/libged.vcproj: contemplated renaming bigE.c to E.c, but reverted (all but this)
00:54.39CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31536 10/brlcad/trunk/ (11 files in 2 dirs): consistency update, make all libged's argv parameters be declared as arrays of pointers instead of pointers to pointers even if they're used the same
03:08.11CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31537 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add start of lesson 3
03:26.56CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31538 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add start of lesson 4
04:13.30starseekerHumm - http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/21/203240
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07:27.49CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31539 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/ (6 files): ws, reverting changes from 31450-31453
07:28.20brlcadwoot
07:36.24brlcadhum, that doesn't look like everything
07:36.38brlcadthat's just a bit of ws
07:42.08homovulgarishuh.. yikes..i double checked it this time.. what were the other modifiications ?
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11:49.29CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31540 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/ (7 files): take two, sanother round of ws and style conformancy changes. try not to wipe these out. ;-)
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11:53.22CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31541 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ (pc.h raytrace.h): commend cleanup
12:03.21CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31542 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS:
12:03.21CIA-22BRL-CAD: I made all platform installers use consistent naming conventions, outlined in
12:03.21CIA-22BRL-CAD: the HACKING file. In particular, the Windows installer is now more
12:03.21CIA-22BRL-CAD: version-aware, installing into a versioned subdir by default (similar to how we
12:03.22CIA-22BRL-CAD: distribute for other platforms) and allowing per-version uninstalls.
12:17.48CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31543 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/ (opennurbs_light.cpp opennurbs_light.h):
12:17.48CIA-22BRL-CAD: (re)apply the intent of the changes prompted by tom browder in sf patch 1998134
12:17.48CIA-22BRL-CAD: (Eliminate Warnings from g++ for opennurbs_light.h) but also making the extra
12:17.48CIA-22BRL-CAD: changes to the cpp file to match. declaring a bool return value as const is
12:17.48CIA-22BRL-CAD: meaningless
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12:24.55Mouettei had entered
12:27.15brlcadhello Mouette
12:27.23Mouettehihi
12:28.04brlcadI see you were able to upload to anon ftp
12:28.18MouetteMmm
12:28.22brlcador at least are in the process of doing so
12:28.51brlcad25MB and counting .. how big is it?
12:29.03Mouette180MB
12:29.09brlcadheh
12:29.16brlcadthat's one slow upload :)
12:29.51brlcadand a huge dist .. is that compressed?
12:30.01MouetteC'est pas grave,we can wait
12:30.27Mouettei forget compressed it
12:30.30Mouette......
12:31.19brlcadit doesn't need to be, I can make it a .pkg.gz .pkg.bz2
12:31.37Mouetteok,thanks
12:31.50Mouetteand i need you test it
12:32.11brlcadwhere does it install to?
12:32.20Mouettebecause it not be compiled in a pure system
12:32.35brlcadwhat were the configure options?
12:32.43Mouette/opt/Brl-CAD
12:32.50brlcadeep
12:33.05brlcadlower/upper mixed case is a no-no
12:33.31brlcadshould be either 'brlcad' or 'BRL-CAD', not other variations
12:33.51Mouetteok
12:34.39Mouetteneed i remake a pkg file?
12:34.43brlcadplease :)
12:35.01Mouetteok,i stop it
12:35.02brlcadwhat were all of your configure options?
12:35.09Mouetteand re-upload
12:35.13brlcadk
12:35.51brlcadrunning as root .. tsk tsk
12:44.25Mouettewait me,compressing
12:47.01brlcadwhat were all of your configure options?
12:48.21Mouettei don't know your mean. you means the result of "./configure" from source?
12:49.14brlcadDid you just run "./configure" with no options following it?
12:49.32brlcadyou had to have used at least --prefix=/opt/brlcad to change it from /usr/brlcad
12:49.50Mouetteno
12:50.18brlcadthen.. what did you do? :)
12:51.44Mouette--enable-tcl-build --enable-tk-build --enable-itcl-build
12:52.23brlcadhence why I ask, you should use --enable-all --enable-optimized for a platform distribution :)
12:53.17brlcadit's not necessary to redo everything, but something to keep in mind for next time
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12:53.43brlcadoptimized will give about a 2x performance increase
12:53.59brlcadenable-all helps ensure that there are no external system dependencies in the binaries
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12:55.11brlcadat least none other than major ones like X11 and OpenGL
12:57.22root_need you look config.cache?
12:57.34brlcadnot really
13:01.16root_i don't understand your means. how about X11 and OpenGL?
13:03.02root_after i do ./configure, then make and get some erreurs.
13:03.19root_then i modify some code
13:03.27brlcaddid you not see my preceeding comments?
13:05.26brlcadhttp://paste.bzflag.bz/m3002fc62
13:05.37root_no.
13:08.05root_and then??
13:10.06root_need you my source dir after compiling?
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13:10.52root_sorry,my english is bad, sometimes i don't understand your means
13:10.59CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31544 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/helplib.tcl:
13:10.59CIA-22BRL-CAD: increase the column spacing to 25 characters, making a max of 100 wide instead
13:10.59CIA-22BRL-CAD: of 80 .. this is a real shame but stems from the problem that the command names
13:10.59CIA-22BRL-CAD: are way too long on dgo_set_plOutputMode, dgo_set_transparency,
13:10.59CIA-22BRL-CAD: dgo_set_outputHandler, and a few others. increasing the width makes it so you
13:11.03CIA-22BRL-CAD: can iterate over the commands (while messing with default width wrapping)
13:12.14brlcadroot_: and then nothing, just pointing out that next time you should use --enable-all --enable-optimized instead of the -build options you were using
13:13.44root_can't "--enable-all", part of source get erreurs
13:13.57root_sorry i am Mouette
13:14.00brlcadah, that's what you meant
13:14.08brlcadheh, I know
13:14.20brlcadwhat errors?
13:16.24root_let me recompile, because some Makefile context i delete some that compile get erreurs
13:16.26piotrnikielhello, are there any Mac OSX BRL-CAD users?
13:16.40brlcadpiotrnikiel: lots
13:18.20piotrnikielWell, I've got a problem with BRL-CAD, which you probably seen before
13:18.29piotrnikiel.X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
13:18.30piotrnikiel<PROTECTED>
13:18.30piotrnikiel<PROTECTED>
13:18.37root_wait me
13:24.10brlcadpiotrnikiel: yes, bugs in the new X11 update
13:24.22brlcadpiotrnikiel: did you compile yourself or install binary?
13:25.11root_upload finish,and wait me recompile......
13:25.58piotrnikielI installed binary and that's what i got
13:26.02piotrnikielbut i also compiled by myself
13:26.09piotrnikieland
13:26.39brlcadroot_: what are you recompiling?
13:27.15piotrnikielwhen i configure with --enable-optimized it compiles well, but when starting mged, it says that i have tcl8.4 (apple's) and it needs tcl8.5
13:27.18root_rm -rf brlcad dir and restart download source
13:28.00piotrnikielso i installed tcl8.5 from macports, and then it fails to compile
13:28.05brlcadpiotrnikiel: unfortunately, there's not a whole lot that can be done about the 10.5 error at the moment .. it'll be a couple months before a fix is expected
13:28.11brlcadpiotrnikiel: add --enable-all to the build
13:28.19piotrnikielwell, i ve got 10.4 ;)
13:28.25brlcadreally?
13:28.35brlcadnow that's odd
13:29.10piotrnikielso i am today trying various combinations of configure, with aquatk, and with tcl&tk from ports, or from apple, and so on
13:29.11brlcadppc or intel?
13:29.13piotrnikielintel
13:29.49brlcadaquatk is for devs-only, it's not going to work for you
13:30.08piotrnikielok... i didn't know that
13:30.10brlcadneither will using system-installed tcl/tk because you don't have itcl/itk
13:30.34brlcadand even iff you did, it's not a frequently tested configuration on mac
13:31.03brlcadusually mac is tested with enable-all
13:31.42piotrnikielok. i'm now compiling it, and if it fails, I'll try enable-all
13:31.50piotrnikielsince i haven't tried it yet
13:32.17brlcadoh interesting, 129 is direct rendering
13:32.49brlcadyou don't have direct render opengl support for some reason
13:33.00piotrnikielwell FYI if i start your binary with: mged -c
13:33.02piotrnikieland choose X
13:33.05brlcad(you can add --without-opengl to get past that)
13:33.11piotrnikielthen i have the old X-server mged
13:33.28brlcadyeah, that's the main problem
13:33.43brlcadthe ogl driver isn't failing gracefully
13:33.57piotrnikielbut if i start mged -c and run it with ogl, then the "129" error happens
13:34.00brlcadit should automatically fall back to indirect rendering, but decides to abort
13:34.38piotrnikielmy mac is pretty standard Macbook
13:34.45piotrnikieland i never got any problems with opengl
13:35.00piotrnikielbut let my check the --enable-all
13:35.12piotrnikielif it fails then I'll tell you
13:35.17root_this is my config result ( ./configure --enable-all --enable-optimized):
13:35.31brlcadwhat we mean by opengl is not the same as what you probably think it means
13:35.32root_Java Developer Kit support ...........: no
13:35.47root_Build 64-bit release .................: no (32-bit)
13:35.48brlcadit's just a low-level rendering mode for us, no different/additional functionality
13:35.59root_Print verbose compilation warnings ...: no
13:36.09root_Print verbose compilation progress ...: no
13:36.10brlcadroot_: those are fine
13:36.15piotrnikielI thought you mean just the system libraries
13:37.17brlcadit's related, but it's more what we do when that display manager driver is turned on/off
13:37.54brlcadand in this case, there's an additional complexity of going through X11 and through the X OpenGL layer
13:38.54brlcadwe ask the X server for a direct rendering context, normally it either says here you go or sorry can't but here use this indirect one
13:39.05brlcadinstead it's saying just "sorry, goodbye"
13:39.13piotrnikiel;)
13:39.39brlcadeither way, the simplest thing to do is just turn the ogl layer off
13:39.49brlcadyou don't miss anything
13:59.18root_ok,i look the first erreues,and i modify
14:00.51root_in src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_point.cpp
14:01.36brlcadwhat version are you compiling?
14:01.50root_i delete #ifdef HAVE_IEEEFP_H and #else, # include <math.h>, #endif 4lines
14:02.07root_7.12.14
14:02.29root_and continuing
14:03.23brlcadokay
14:03.45brlcadroot_: I suspect they don't get many solaris folks compiling openNURBS
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14:13.26brlcadyay, automatic mged command test
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14:31.51root_the second erreurs,i checking
14:34.55root_in src/libtermio/termio.c 428,439, let me think how i deal with the problem in that time
14:39.46root_add #include <fcntl.h>,#include <sys/types.h> 2 line,ad delete some ifndef.......
14:39.57root_and continuing
14:42.01root_the third erreur appear.
14:43.03piotrnikielgot it, got it ;)
14:43.08piotrnikielthank you sean
14:43.19brlcadpiotrnikiel: glad to hear it!
14:43.20piotrnikielenable-all really sorted everything out well
14:43.44root_in src/adrt/master/,i haven't ability to deal with it, so i modify the Makefile in src/adrt
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14:45.52root_i delete the context "master" in Makefile,Makefile.in,and Makefile.am in src/adrt
14:46.01root_and continuing
14:46.35CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31545 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtermio/termio.c: include fcntl.h for solaris, thx Mouette
14:46.55brlcadroot_: adrt isn't important
15:03.06root_compile finish
15:03.23root_installing and testing it
15:05.25root_in installing,a tcl erreurs,i am dealing with it
15:06.42root_in src/other/tcl/unix/Makefile
15:08.10root_in the Makefile, SHELL=/bin/sh  become /usr/bin/bash
15:09.35root_and src/other/tk/unix/Makefile is also
15:10.21brlcadwe try not to modify anything in src/other
15:10.34brlcadunless it's something that causes a hard failur
15:20.26root_install finish and test it, it look like ok in my machine.
15:20.58root_my process is finish
15:21.27brlcadroot_: if you run "cd /tmp && /opt/bin/benchmark"
15:21.48brlcadwhat does it report at the end?
15:21.53brlcadshould be a number
15:21.55brlcadin a box
15:22.16brlcad(takes about 9 minues to run)
15:22.53root_RT reports the following version information:
15:22.53root_BRL-CAD Release 7.12.4  The BRL-CAD Raytracer RT
15:22.53root_BRL-CAD Release 7.12.4  The BRL-CAD Ray-Tracing Library
15:22.53root_BRL-CAD Release 7.12.4  The BRL-CAD Numerical Computation Library
15:22.53root_BRL-CAD Release 7.12.4  The BRL-CAD Utility Library
15:22.54root_Minimum run time is 3 minutes, 12 seconds
15:22.56root_Maximum run time is 30 minutes
15:22.58root_Estimated   time is 9 minutes, 36 seconds
15:23.04root_Running the BRL-CAD Benchmark tests... please wait ...
15:23.06root_+++++ moss
15:23.08root_Frame  0:     357882 rays   in      1.40 sec =    255252.77 rays/sec (RTFM)
15:23.10root_Frame  1:     715764 rays   in      2.69 sec =    266573.31 rays/sec (RTFM)
15:23.12root_Frame  4:    5726112 rays   in     20.19 sec =    283580.98 rays/sec (RTFM)
15:23.18brlcadeek
15:23.21brlcadnot the whole thing :)
15:23.34brlcadway too much for irc
15:23.47brlcadwait until it finishes
15:24.01root_ok
15:24.11root_and then?
15:25.00brlcadthere will be a #*#*#* box, print the two lines inside
15:25.01root_look the end part?
15:25.14root_ook
15:25.36brlcador "cat summary"
15:30.12root_Output was saved to run-3187-benchmark.log from /tmp
15:30.12root_Benchmark testing complete.
15:30.24root_Benchmark results indicate an approximate VGR performance metric of 1626
15:30.25root_Logarithmic VGR metric is 3.21  (natural logarithm is 7.39)
15:30.35root_is this?
15:31.49root_is this fine?
15:37.03brlcadthat's it, thanks
15:54.08root_?
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16:42.38``Erikw00t, got my experiment box up
16:43.33brlcadwhich is that?
17:03.49``Erikthe wally world special that I souped up, running fbsd-current
17:04.11``Erikone of the drives was shot which was preventing the entire machine from booting :/
17:04.24``Eriklike, not even trying to post
17:07.28brlcadfinally updates ze fresh meat
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17:50.20CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31546 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: add an automatic options usage statement to the help and don't ignore invalid options. clean up the usage printing a little bit too.
17:56.27CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31547 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/ (Makefile.am mged.sh):
17:56.27CIA-22BRL-CAD: add a new regression test for mged. it makes sure mged will run, can create a
17:56.27CIA-22BRL-CAD: geometry database, and then evalutes the commands available. for every command
17:56.27CIA-22BRL-CAD: available, it makes sure that it exits, runs successfully without reporting an
17:56.27CIA-22BRL-CAD: error, and has a help/usage statement. this has already unvelieved a few issues
17:56.30CIA-22BRL-CAD: that should get fixed (edcolor kicking off an editor, rt-tools crashing with a
17:56.32CIA-22BRL-CAD: bu_log write error, few commands missing (recent libged changes)).
17:57.04``Erikdoes some more updating on the old machine named 'the new bz'
17:57.12brlcadcool
17:57.27brlcadalmost did that this weekend
17:57.29brlcad*almost*
17:57.39brlcadinstead wanted to get some coding done
17:58.26CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31548 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged.sh: oops, numeric test
17:59.22``ErikI'm just running cvsup, mebbe building world and then doing a portupgrade... no migration tuff
17:59.25``Eriktuff
17:59.26``Erikstuff
17:59.41``Eriksssssssssssssssssstuff. damn s key
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18:47.56CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31549 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: fixed typo
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20:16.54brlcad``Erik: you might like this: http://www.pawfal.org/Software/fluxus/
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