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| 04:13.03 | minusinsk | hello |
| 04:13.23 | minusinsk | here only english-speakers? |
| 04:13.52 | louipc | mostly |
| 04:14.08 | minusinsk | no russians? |
| 04:15.26 | louipc | I don't think so |
| 04:15.45 | minusinsk | Brlcad have a non-english language localisation and internationalization? |
| 04:17.04 | louipc | hmm doesn't look like it |
| 04:17.28 | minusinsk | Is it possible to convert the programme into other languages? |
| 04:18.07 | louipc | of course. it might take a lot of work though |
| 04:18.42 | louipc | you'd have to patch gettext functionality in the apps or something |
| 04:23.13 | minusinsk | somebody need do it :) |
| 04:23.56 | louipc | yea :D |
| 04:25.25 | louipc | docs would be better to translate first though |
| 04:25.27 | minusinsk | who can? Who is Master Yoda? :) |
| 04:26.03 | louipc | well there are people that have the skills but are too busy doing other things |
| 04:26.26 | minusinsk | docs.. maybe i can in Russian, but i'm not a engeneer-constructor |
| 04:26.43 | louipc | did you go to brlcad.org? |
| 04:26.55 | minusinsk | yeah, i did |
| 04:26.55 | louipc | there are pdfs there |
| 04:27.16 | minusinsk | pdf is not good for edit |
| 04:27.27 | louipc | ... there are also manpages when you install the program |
| 04:27.36 | minusinsk | odf is more better |
| 04:27.48 | louipc | odf eh? |
| 04:28.02 | louipc | minusinsk: well some people are trying to convert everything to docbook |
| 04:28.10 | louipc | xml |
| 04:28.18 | minusinsk | Open Document Format ISO/IEC 26300 |
| 04:28.22 | louipc | ah |
| 04:28.37 | minusinsk | it's xml too |
| 04:29.34 | louipc | it's not really meant for conversion to different formats though eh? |
| 04:30.51 | minusinsk | OpenOffice have a many formats for export from odf |
| 04:33.25 | louipc | cool |
| 04:37.49 | minusinsk | export to BibTeX, LaTeX2, mediaWiki, pdf, and much more office formats |
| 04:38.34 | minusinsk | ok, i will try translate docs from pdf to odf and translete them |
| 04:38.49 | louipc | cool! |
| 04:38.49 | minusinsk | in my language |
| 04:39.00 | louipc | that's a huge task |
| 04:39.04 | minusinsk | it's first |
| 04:39.32 | minusinsk | after that need support UTF-8 for Brlcad |
| 04:39.44 | minusinsk | it's jobfor programmers |
| 04:39.56 | louipc | yep |
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| 05:13.37 | yukonbob | minusinsk: BRL-CAD might already have support, depending on how it's necessary... Tcl was one of the first (the first?) cross-platform languages w/ UTF support, and has good i18n support... |
| 05:19.36 | minusinsk | i'm remember that UTF-8 is in TCL/TK only few time |
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| 05:23.00 | yukonbob | minusinsk: there are also two large documents converted to DocBook format... you can retrieve them via svn (not sure if they're shipping in any distribution)... DocBook is the format that the project is using for the documentation. |
| 05:23.53 | minusinsk | ok, i can imported them |
| 05:24.39 | starseeker | I would suggest first translating the text (which you should be able to get out of the pdf) and then integrating that with the docbook markup once it becomes available |
| 05:24.50 | yukonbob | ~cadsvn |
| 05:24.51 | ibot | To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
| 05:25.09 | minusinsk | tnx |
| 05:25.26 | yukonbob | hey starseeker |
| 05:25.30 | starseeker | howdy :-) |
| 05:26.01 | louipc | yukonbob: those pdfs are all done !? |
| 05:26.07 | louipc | I mean to docbook |
| 05:26.13 | starseeker | not yet |
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| 05:26.27 | louipc | ah I was going to say nice job yo! |
| 05:26.41 | starseeker | IIRC, vol 4 is pretty far along, vol 2 is (sort of) started and vol 3 is on the todo list |
| 05:26.46 | yukonbob | louipc: no -- I've done volume iv, starseeker did one(?), and there's more to do... we had a _big_ push a whlie ago, but nothing lately :) |
| 05:26.51 | louipc | vol2 is a doosie |
| 05:27.29 | starseeker | Now that I'm getting more docbook and tool experience (xmlto + fop = goodness) |
| 05:27.39 | starseeker | I SHOULD be able to better convert vol2 |
| 05:28.06 | starseeker | Much of the markup in vol2 will probably need to be re-done, but it's a start |
| 05:28.56 | yukonbob | starseeker: what kind of data? |
| 05:29.10 | starseeker | US Geologic Survey geologic information |
| 05:29.44 | starseeker | Oddly enough, there seems to be some halfway decent DLG stuff |
| 05:29.53 | starseeker | which will take forever and a day to download... |
| 05:30.35 | starseeker | I had to ignore a robot file, which meant I'm throttling the download speed down to next to nothing so as not to annoy anyone |
| 05:30.49 | starseeker | Digital Line graph |
| 05:30.50 | yukonbob | hrm -- http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/28/2339246 |
| 05:31.46 | starseeker | That's "it's too unstable for just anyone to use, so we'll hammer on it and at the same time get good App performance for Apple apps." |
| 05:32.10 | starseeker | Unlike MS, there is a quasi-realistic hope that Apple's software will achieve stability inside the decade... |
| 05:32.45 | yukonbob | starseeker: re DLG -- what are you using it for? |
| 05:33.06 | starseeker | yukonbob: Nothing in particular at the moment - might try giving GRASS a workout |
| 05:33.07 | louipc | hehe |
| 05:34.00 | starseeker | yukonbob: All sorts of neat Google-like map visualizations that might be tried, given proper tool knowledge |
| 05:34.20 | starseeker | yukonbob: Not remotely BRL-CAD related though... |
| 05:36.48 | brlcad | yukonbob: read the comment from David Hyatt |
| 05:37.15 | brlcad | it's really a stupid /. posting, sensationalist crap |
| 05:37.31 | brlcad | there's more down in the /. comments |
| 05:39.59 | starseeker | brlcad: Just curious - has anyone ever tried doing anything with BRL-CAD + GIS data? |
| 05:40.34 | starseeker | + BRL-CAD? |
| 05:41.17 | brlcad | DSP is a brl-cad primitive type |
| 05:41.21 | brlcad | so yes :) |
| 05:41.27 | yukonbob | yup -- DSP == displacement map in BRL-CAD... DEM = digital elevation model |
| 05:41.32 | brlcad | http://my.brlcad.org/tmp/puget01.png is an example |
| 05:41.37 | starseeker | er... |
| 05:41.51 | starseeker | s/?/! |
| 05:42.09 | starseeker | That's cool |
| 05:42.13 | brlcad | that's the high-res puget de data |
| 05:43.25 | starseeker | What DEM # corresponds to that high res? |
| 05:43.31 | brlcad | that's the 16k x 16k data from http://www.cc.gatech.edu/projects/large_models/ps.html |
| 05:44.20 | brlcad | where they'd already extracted from dem, conveniently in a format nearly ideal for dsp |
| 05:44.40 | brlcad | shoulda applied the texture too, but was just playing around |
| 05:44.47 | yukonbob | starseeker: there's other info that could be used easily -- for example, png "height shade" images (I believe that's what they're called) -- _not_ to be confused w/ "shade slope" models, though, which might look the same at first glance... |
| 05:45.32 | yukonbob | brlcad: any luck tracking that mem leak wrt dsp? |
| 05:49.45 | brlcad | haven't looked at it :( |
| 05:49.51 | brlcad | but keep kicking me, I will |
| 05:50.17 | yukonbob | :) |
| 05:51.54 | biketron | anyone have any luck using brl-cad on mac osx leopard? |
| 05:53.03 | brlcad | biketron: the X11 server in leopard is busted .. |
| 05:53.53 | biketron | ugh.. |
| 05:53.59 | brlcad | apple's got a fix in the works, but it was outright broken when they switched to X.org's R7 |
| 05:55.09 | biketron | eta on the fix? |
| 05:57.16 | yukonbob | as soon as it's finished, but no sooner? |
| 05:57.46 | biketron | :) |
| 05:58.10 | yukonbob | :) |
| 05:58.59 | yukonbob | is it reasonable to (temporarily?) install X from fink or similar? (Some Mac-head can comment whether that even really makes sense)... |
| 05:59.34 | louipc | mac ports? |
| 05:59.54 | yukonbob | ya -- whatever -- as long as you can use X w/o clobbering the 'native' install... |
| 05:59.56 | louipc | http://www.macports.org/ |
| 06:00.14 | louipc | I don't know anything about mac *shrug* |
| 06:03.49 | yukonbob | nothing to know. Push the single button mouse and your screen smiles at you. Mac folks are easy to amuse. |
| 06:14.24 | brlcad | yukonbob: i don't know of anyone that has tried and I don't have easy access to 10.5 atm |
| 06:16.46 | brlcad | 10.4's X11 works just fine ;) |
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| 10:08.03 | cad76 | hello i would like to ask how to start the program after instalation? |
| 10:08.21 | clock_ | cad76: mged |
| 10:08.56 | clock_ | actually better mged test.g otherwise it will yell it doesn't have any database open when you try to create some body |
| 10:11.54 | cad76 | terminal says - command not found |
| 10:12.13 | clock_ | updatedb |
| 10:12.15 | clock_ | locate mged |
| 10:15.20 | cad76 | i will try to reinstall :) |
| 10:16.27 | cad76 | thank you |
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| 15:09.51 | ``Erik | heh |
| 15:32.07 | ``Erik | Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. But light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. |
| 15:36.09 | elite01 | hehe :) |
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