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| 12:13.05 | oej | Hello jsmith. Have a nice weekend! |
| 12:14.56 | jsmith | oej: Hey Olle... you too! |
| 12:15.04 | jsmith | oej: You headed back home for the weekend? |
| 12:15.32 | oej | I am soon to hit the autobahn to get to the airport :-) |
| 12:15.42 | jsmith | Whee! |
| 12:16.03 | oej | I will arrive to Stockholm at the same time as my sister Anna. She flies from Mexico, I fly from Germany. That's synchronization. |
| 12:16.13 | jsmith | oej: Sounds like you had a fun week -- I really need to get back into SIP stuff |
| 12:28.34 | oej | Yes, you do. |
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| 16:17.06 | Alric | Looks like the Mayans were off, by over a year! |
| 17:37.07 | jsmith | Alric: Oh? |
| 17:37.24 | jsmith | Alric: Actually, the guy who calculated the 2012 date was way off anyway |
| 17:59.40 | Alric | Well if they predicted August 2, 2011, I'd be impressed. |
| 19:45.50 | Alric | Do you guys think OpenOffice is a real competitor to MS Office? |
| 20:05.55 | leifmadsen | nope |
| 20:06.04 | leifmadsen | I find OOo mostly junk |
| 20:06.08 | leifmadsen | it's tolerable |
| 20:08.53 | jsmith | LibreOffice is getting better, now that they're cleaning out a lot of the worst code |
| 20:09.04 | jsmith | But it's still not truly competitive |
| 20:09.17 | jsmith | That being said, I haven't used the real Office in several years now |
| 20:09.24 | jsmith | LibreOffice does everything I need it to |
| 20:11.28 | Alric | OO does what I need, just slower and more painful than MSO. |
| 20:11.53 | Alric | and every time I touch it I long for my Office for Mac 2004 or whatever version that was. |
| 20:12.46 | Alric | I can't believe modern PC MS Office can't convert to PDF |
| 20:12.59 | Alric | And I'm wondering if that feature got stripped out of the most recent Office for Mac. |
| 20:23.54 | leifmadsen | I just use a document-to-pdf print driver |
| 20:26.10 | Alric | I'd certainly like to use something like Linux day-to-day. I mean, free is compelling. OS X and Win 7 are just too pretty. |
| 20:26.28 | Alric | and if I'm going to deal with something 8+ hours a day, it will be pretty. |
| 20:26.32 | jsmith | loves his Linux, and can't stand to go back to either Windows or OS X |
| 20:26.40 | jsmith | would take functional over pretty any day |
| 20:26.50 | jsmith | (That being said, Gnome 3 *is* pretty) |
| 20:27.02 | Alric | Who said I was missing functionality? |
| 20:29.22 | Alric | There may be a better way to run a railroad, but I'm doing pretty well. |
| 20:30.33 | Alric | Quickly comparing what I run, I wouldn't lose anything going to Fedora 15 (except MS Office), but what I'd gain aside from it being free isn't enough for me. |
| 20:37.14 | leifmadsen | I can't use anything but linux on my desktop anymore... gotten too used to be able to do what I want with it |
| 20:39.38 | Alric | What does that mean in practicality? |
| 20:40.05 | leifmadsen | I don't understand the question |
| 20:40.30 | leifmadsen | it means I work more efficiently and I find linux earier |
| 20:40.32 | leifmadsen | easier* |
| 20:40.38 | Alric | Give me an example of something you have "done what you want with", that wouldn't be possible with Win 7 for instance. |
| 20:40.48 | Alric | That should even be easy :D |
| 20:40.48 | jsmith | Alric: Here, I'll give you an example... |
| 20:41.03 | jsmith | Alric: https://plus.google.com/106376239368339615111/posts/MNgKVMRQ5i2 |
| 20:41.40 | jsmith | The windows driver alone is probably 300+ megas |
| 20:41.50 | leifmadsen | Alric: you're missing the point |
| 20:41.55 | leifmadsen | it's not about that for me |
| 20:42.17 | leifmadsen | I just find linux easier for me -- I'm not trying to justify it for anyone else |
| 20:42.30 | Alric | I'm not asking you to. |
| 20:42.34 | leifmadsen | then I'm done |
| 20:42.37 | Alric | I'm trying to understand what you find so fascinating about it. |
| 20:42.40 | leifmadsen | goes back to deprecating modules |
| 20:43.06 | leifmadsen | who said things were fascinating? |
| 20:43.11 | Alric | Because so far I don't see any practical reason that linux is more customizable. |
| 20:43.25 | leifmadsen | I'm saying for what I do, and the software I interact with, using Linux as my desktop is the easiest thing for me, and I don't miss using Windows or OSX |
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| 20:44.56 | Alric | That is pretty cool jsmith. |
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