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00:11.39 | Corydon76-lap | seanbright: I fixed app_rpt at one time, only to have jdixon revert all of my fixes in his next commit. |
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00:11.47 | seanbright | Corydon76-lap: ah |
00:11.54 | seanbright | Corydon76-lap: that's no good. |
00:12.22 | Corydon76-lap | He's not very much a collaborator, it seems. |
00:12.44 | Qwell | he doesn't really grasp the concept of version control very well either.. |
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00:14.23 | _Lya_ | has anyone tried to use asterisk to develop a usability interface for the blind? |
00:14.39 | Corydon76-lap | Qwell: Yeah, I got the impression that he copied his file into the directory and committed it when he was done with his own changes |
00:15.45 | Corydon76-lap | _Lya_: not to my knowledge, but that's kind of like asking if anybody has developed applications for the blind on Windows |
00:16.03 | Corydon76-lap | Asterisk is a _platform_ |
00:16.49 | Corydon76-lap | There's nothing implicit about most phone applications that would exclude the blind, anyway |
00:16.53 | _Lya_ | Corydon76-lap: Right, but you can point to applications on windows for the blind. ;-) |
00:17.19 | Corydon76-lap | The deaf are a different story, and there are most definitely compatibility apps for the deaf |
00:17.30 | Corydon76-lap | _Lya_: No, I can't. |
00:17.45 | Corydon76-lap | I don't know of a single application for Windows for the blind |
00:17.55 | Corydon76-lap | but I'm sure there are some |
00:18.54 | _Lya_ | touche.. it seems like it would be a good framework for a browser. |
00:19.16 | Corydon76-lap | Asterisk isn't a browser |
00:19.32 | _Lya_ | no, but you could use the platform to create one |
00:19.42 | seanbright | really? |
00:19.42 | _Lya_ | no? |
00:19.51 | Corydon76-lap | That seems like a stretch |
00:21.28 | _Lya_ | is it bad for navigational controls or something? |
00:21.51 | seanbright | um |
00:21.55 | Corydon76-lap | You have 12 keys. You tell me. |
00:22.07 | seanbright | asterisk is a telephony platform |
00:22.12 | _Lya_ | I think you might be thinking web browser.. |
00:22.51 | Corydon76-lap | Yes, that's precisely what I was thinking |
00:23.02 | _Lya_ | I'm thinking a slightly more intense than normal tree browser |
00:23.04 | Corydon76-lap | Were you thinking of IVR menus when you said browser? |
00:23.13 | Corydon76-lap | Asterisk can do IVR menus fine |
00:23.20 | _Lya_ | well, butons to speed up and slow down sound |
00:23.24 | _Lya_ | skiping across links |
00:23.31 | _Lya_ | think like reading through a book |
00:23.33 | Corydon76-lap | links? |
00:24.17 | _Lya_ | table of contents.. you could jump up to browse chapters and then jump back to the chapter. |
00:24.38 | Corydon76-lap | I suppose you could |
00:24.55 | Corydon76-lap | I don't see any reason why not |
00:24.56 | _Lya_ | voting machine interface.. |
00:25.04 | _Lya_ | atm interface.. |
00:25.15 | _Lya_ | grocery store checkout interface.. |
00:25.16 | Corydon76-lap | Personally, I think holding a phone up to your ear for hours would be tedious, but that's just me |
00:25.59 | _Lya_ | of course |
00:26.09 | seanbright | that is what speaker phone is for |
00:26.10 | seanbright | duh! |
00:27.49 | _Lya_ | there are definitely proprietary systems that do it, it'd be neat to have an embedded app that works off dumb phone terminal hardware. |
00:30.24 | _Lya_ | are there any potential problems using it like this? |
00:30.33 | Corydon76-lap | Nope |
00:30.45 | Corydon76-lap | I'd recommend that you learn how to use func_odbc, though |
00:30.54 | _Lya_ | k |
00:31.18 | Corydon76-lap | Pull stuff out of a database, basically |
00:31.49 | _Lya_ | i'm familiar with ODBC.. |
00:31.52 | _Lya_ | how is the Java API? |
00:32.02 | Corydon76-lap | No idea |
00:32.16 | Corydon76-lap | I tend to write stuff directly in the dialplan |
00:32.55 | seanbright | there is no built-in java api |
00:33.06 | seanbright | just third party solutions that integrate with AGI/AIM |
00:33.09 | seanbright | s/AIM/AMI/ |
00:33.23 | Corydon76-lap | You may want a custom playback app that will remember its place when playback is interrupted, though |
00:33.36 | _Lya_ | http://asterisk-java.org/ ? |
00:33.56 | Corydon76-lap | Not everybody is a Java programmer, you know |
00:34.06 | _Lya_ | I'm aware. |
00:34.10 | Corydon76-lap | Some of us write in C. |
00:34.15 | _Lya_ | I actually loathe it... |
00:34.27 | Corydon76-lap | Then don't use it |
00:34.32 | seanbright | well long story short, there are 100 ways to integrate with asterisk |
00:34.39 | seanbright | pick your poison |
00:34.43 | _Lya_ | k |
00:34.57 | Corydon76-lap | In the meantime, I'm going home |
00:35.03 | _Lya_ | good day |
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00:35.09 | _Lya_ | thanks for answering the questions |
00:37.22 | _Lya_ | seanbright: is there a best way? |
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00:47.40 | seanbright | _Lya_: best way for what? |
00:47.58 | _Lya_ | integration, assuming what I want to do with it. |
00:48.02 | seanbright | ah |
00:48.16 | seanbright | i use nAsterisk |
00:48.24 | seanbright | which is a FastAGI service written in C# |
00:48.37 | _Lya_ | k |
00:48.39 | seanbright | i don't use anything to monitor AMI |
00:49.07 | seanbright | you're likely to get 1000 ideas from 1000 people |
00:49.24 | _Lya_ | i'm sure |
00:51.08 | _Lya_ | you can detect phone pickup w/ FastAGI? |
00:51.21 | _Lya_ | I guess I should read up on that as opposed to asking questions about it |
00:52.20 | snuff-work | if u want to know when someone just picks up a phone.. only possible for FXO / FXS ports.. |
00:52.45 | snuff-work | if u mean answer.. course its possible with any |
00:53.12 | _Lya_ | k |
00:53.13 | seanbright | _Lya_: yead, reading and playing around are the best way to learn |
00:53.20 | seanbright | yead? i meant 'yeah' |
00:54.25 | snuff-work | seanbright: i managed to make res_jabber compile as ao2.. |
00:54.32 | seanbright | snuff-work: niiiiice |
00:54.58 | snuff-work | when i actually goto test it.. i'm sure it will fall over badly but compilation is a good start |
00:55.06 | seanbright | yeah |
00:55.09 | seanbright | testing is the tough part |
00:55.29 | snuff-work | considering i've never used the jabber part of * :) |
00:55.58 | seanbright | right. |
00:56.18 | _Lya_ | One last question, is there any support for like a phone-to-usb or do you need a PCI card? |
00:56.23 | snuff-work | so ur shadow stuff might be able to get through jabber in the next weeks |
00:56.45 | snuff-work | uhm months i mean.. weeks would be my ideal world |
00:57.35 | seanbright | _Lya_: #asterisk might be a better place to ask that question |
00:58.57 | _Lya_ | k |
01:00.00 | seanbright | ok, i have to go back to the office now :-/ |
01:00.07 | seanbright | kthxbye |
01:00.43 | _Lya_ | thanks for the help, i'm also leaving but I will (probably) be back eventually. |
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06:47.45 | slavon_net | hello all |
06:49.22 | slavon_net | i use dynamic member with local channels in queues... if i have 2 dynamic queue member and 5 calls in queue first free member get second call in queue! why? |
06:51.09 | slavon_net | Also asterisk can't get status of member if it's "Local/xxx@agents" |
06:52.20 | slavon_net | and have messages in log: app_queue.c:2271 wait_for_answer: Dunno what to do with control type -1 |
06:55.47 | snuff-work | slavon_net: if you believe its a bug.. post it on the tracker |
07:02.10 | snuff-work | slavon_net: did u test the latest patch in 13409 |
07:02.11 | snuff-work | ? |
07:06.30 | slavon_net | no... i rollback to worked version .... i may update in morning time if * not have huge load.... |
07:06.45 | slavon_net | how i have above 200 calls in * |
07:07.35 | slavon_net | i try tomorow if its not do anyone |
07:08.20 | slavon_net | oh :) now i have above 200 calls in asterisk |
07:22.59 | snuff-work | well watch 13409 then for status updates.. |
07:23.13 | snuff-work | i will close urs since it is exactly the same |
07:23.23 | snuff-work | cdr struct getting trashed |
07:24.45 | slavon_net | okey... thanks |
08:25.35 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody getting build warnings with zaptel 1.4.12 on ubuntu hardy (8.04) 2.6.24-19 kernel? |
08:39.42 | oej | Morning folks |
08:52.17 | mvanbaak | mornin all |
08:52.27 | mvanbaak | tzafrir_laptop: I did not try to compile it on ubuntu yet |
08:53.08 | mvanbaak | tzafrir_laptop: and I dont know if I will now that we have dahdi |
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10:35.47 | r0bis | May I ask how to troubleshoot <asterisk hangs up, channels closed, telco side does not hang up for 30+ secs; result mobile I called my asterisk box from keeps line open (T-mobile for 25 sec, Vodafone indefinitely)>. This appears a rare problem, I have sought help elsewhere, but now it seems I need to understand how * performs hangup(). Many thanks |
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11:22.49 | tzafrir_laptop | the log file for the above: http://paste.debian.net/16780/ |
11:23.39 | tzafrir_laptop | I don't file it as a bug, as I can't yet reproduce it myself (need to set up such a system) and this specific build was with some patches (that I believe are irrelevant) |
11:26.12 | tzafrir_laptop | kernel/wcfxo.c:1025: warning: passing argument 3 of ?pci_free_consistent? discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
11:28.42 | putnopvut | good morning everyone |
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11:46.47 | putnopvut | lmadsen: you are a flaky pie crust |
11:47.00 | lmadsen | putnopvut: and delicious at that! |
11:47.12 | putnopvut | I'll take your word on that one. |
11:47.15 | lmadsen | what the heck are you doing up so freakishly early? |
11:47.24 | lmadsen | putnopvut: hey, that's what she said |
11:47.29 | putnopvut | right |
11:47.53 | putnopvut | Hey, any idea why 10690 is assigned to Damin? |
11:48.01 | putnopvut | Did he volunteer to test? |
11:49.58 | lmadsen | M10690 |
11:50.01 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/General 0010690: sip peer with missing close bracket causes all subsequent sip peers not to load reported by dtyoo (Karma: +10.50) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10690 |
11:50.11 | lmadsen | putnopvut: I would imagine so... |
11:50.15 | lmadsen | Damin: yo! |
11:50.19 | lmadsen | (he won't be up) |
11:50.37 | lmadsen | well, maybe he will be, I can't remember if he is an early riser or not |
11:50.55 | putnopvut | His IRC status says he's away. |
11:50.58 | lmadsen | I certainly am not, but up early because I have a system cut over at 0830 |
11:51.12 | putnopvut | neat. |
11:54.52 | lmadsen | and you never did answer why you are up so early... |
11:54.56 | lmadsen | it's not even 8am there |
11:55.01 | lmadsen | errr... not even 7am |
11:56.10 | lmadsen | aha -- the email explains it all |
11:56.20 | lmadsen | putnopvut: I hate those nights... but I wonder how productive you've been :) |
11:56.37 | putnopvut | lmadsen: I'll know in hindsight, I suppose :) |
11:56.43 | lmadsen | lol |
11:56.46 | lmadsen | fair enough |
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12:27.25 | snuff-home | putnopvut: did u sleep? all i seen was commits for the last 5 hrs ;) |
12:27.38 | putnopvut | snuff-home: as a matter of fact, no :) |
12:27.51 | snuff-home | explains it :D |
12:27.54 | russellb | putnopvut: be careful driving home when you get around to it ... |
12:28.00 | russellb | putnopvut: let me know if you need a ride, heh |
12:28.22 | putnopvut | russellb: thanks for the offer. I'll probably be fine though. |
12:28.27 | russellb | k |
12:32.43 | snuff-home | so quick svn question.. i have 1 line patch (doco one) |
12:32.56 | russellb | ok |
12:33.16 | snuff-home | do i just svn commit on the file in my trunk ? |
12:33.26 | russellb | Yes. just commit to trunk |
12:33.34 | russellb | and then merge/block on 1.6.0/1.6.1 |
12:33.47 | russellb | using mergetrunk6 or blocktrunk6 |
12:35.26 | snuff-home | ooh.. i got cool svn rev number ;) |
12:35.42 | putnopvut | By the way, if you guys want some metal hardware or Chinese calligraphy, I know just who to talk to. |
12:35.55 | russellb | orly. |
12:36.01 | russellb | M13115 |
12:36.04 | MuffinMan | [assigned] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/General 0013115: could NOT get the channel lock reported by pj (Karma: +6.50) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13115 |
12:36.06 | russellb | reopened :( |
12:36.08 | putnopvut | russellb: check the -biz list |
12:36.13 | putnopvut | russellb: lame :( |
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12:36.54 | dandre | Hello, |
12:36.54 | dandre | I wonder to know what UniqId is used for in the manager interface? |
12:36.55 | dandre | Is it a message ID or a call ID? |
12:36.55 | russellb | putnopvut: 2 reports of "this fixed it" and one with "still happens ... sometimes" |
12:36.57 | putnopvut | russellb: apparently only PJ is having the problem now though. The others have claimed that the problem has stopped. |
12:37.03 | putnopvut | jinx |
12:37.04 | russellb | dandre: #asterisk, please |
12:37.45 | dandre | ok sorry. |
12:38.03 | dandre | I am modifying astmanproxy though |
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12:39.04 | r0bis | could anyone suggest what this line means? |
12:39.05 | r0bis | ast_expr2.fl: ast_yyerror(): syntax error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting $end; Input: = 1^ |
12:39.06 | russellb | dandre: uniqueid is a core concept of asterisk ... |
12:39.16 | snuff-home | ok.. i've comitted.. but i try blocktrunk6 1st time with no rev num (oops) and i try again and get svnmerge: no integration info available |
12:39.23 | russellb | r0bis: means you have an invalid expression in your dialplan ... please try #asterisk |
12:39.37 | russellb | snuff-home: you run those scripts from 1.6.0 or 1.6.1 |
12:39.40 | r0bis | many thanks, sorry |
12:39.41 | putnopvut | snuff-home: cd to the 1.6.x branch and then run the script. |
12:39.43 | snuff-home | ah |
12:39.45 | snuff-home | silly me |
12:45.36 | snuff-home | russ doesn't the 1.6 have issue with murf patch? cdr bugs issue.. 2 ppl reporting problems with queues n locals.. |
12:45.58 | putnopvut | snuff-home: what are the bug numbers? |
12:46.11 | snuff-home | M13409 |
12:46.14 | MuffinMan | [feedback] [Asterisk] Core/Channels 0013409: [patch] Huge memory leak because memory of channel cdr struct is never returned reported by tomaso (Karma: +8.00) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13409 |
12:47.15 | snuff-home | slavon reported same crash as last guy in bug.. but he hadn't had time to try murfs latest patch |
12:49.31 | putnopvut | oh, so it's a crash now... |
12:50.17 | snuff-home | mm |
12:50.40 | russellb | >_< |
13:00.56 | snuff-home | mm at least 2 ppl were happy with ur ast_waitfor() patchness :) |
13:01.16 | lmadsen | w00t |
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13:15.32 | russellb | yeah, it's progress :) |
13:15.38 | russellb | thanks to file for that one, though |
13:15.56 | russellb | he was all like "zomg, look at this code right here!" |
13:16.08 | russellb | and I said "yes, you are right! want me to do the fixing?" and he said "yessssssss" |
13:16.30 | file | I find stuff sometimes |
13:16.33 | file | it is CrAzY |
13:18.16 | russellb | file: i want to work on bugs :( |
13:18.22 | putnopvut | Then do it! |
13:18.29 | file | russellb: :( |
13:18.41 | russellb | putnopvut: can't! |
13:18.46 | putnopvut | :( |
13:18.53 | russellb | well, did a bit last night |
13:18.58 | russellb | and worked on that CDR thing just now :) |
13:19.07 | mcargile | how can I tell via the AMI if 1.4 was built with dahdi or zaptel? |
13:19.08 | russellb | got a lil' taste ... it's like crack! |
13:19.19 | russellb | mcargile: good question, I don't think there is a way |
13:19.23 | file | russellb: addict! |
13:19.26 | mcargile | thats a problem |
13:19.31 | russellb | mcargile: if it's build with zaptel, you will only have zaptel actions |
13:19.38 | russellb | mcargile: if you built with dahdi, you'll have both dahdi and zaptel actions |
13:19.44 | mcargile | ok |
13:19.46 | russellb | so, i guess that's how you could tell ... |
13:19.56 | mcargile | okay |
13:21.28 | mcargile | if it was built with dahdi do the zaptel commands effect the TDM interface still? |
13:21.44 | mcargile | or do I have to use dahdi? |
13:22.01 | putnopvut | zaptel and dahdi are interchangeable with AMI in 1.4 |
13:22.06 | mcargile | ok |
13:22.07 | mcargile | thanks |
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13:23.54 | russellb | this is probably documented in UPGRADE.txt and Zaptel-to-DAHDI.txt :) |
13:24.01 | russellb | and/or |
13:24.05 | snuff-home | looking @ 300 * only bugs reminds me not so long ago of reaching just under 260 for * only ones |
13:27.28 | mcargile | russellb: thanks I did not see that there was a separate Zaptel-to-DAHDI.txt for 1.4 |
13:27.43 | russellb | np :) |
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13:34.04 | tzafrir_laptop | mcargile, dahdi or zaptel at the kernel? or chan_zap vs. chan_dahdi? |
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13:57.30 | snuff-home | just another bug to mention.. ldap config.. reporter says we are missing the res_config_ldap.conf.sample change from his bug report |
13:57.40 | snuff-home | M12860 |
13:57.44 | MuffinMan | [assigned] [Asterisk] Resources/res_config_ldap 0012860: [patch] Included example schema not compatible with res_config_ldap.c reported by flyn (Karma: +0.50) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12860 |
13:58.52 | snuff-home | zzz time |
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14:22.31 | codefreeze-lap | russellb: I like your fix, but... I'm worried about NoCDR |
14:23.14 | codefreeze-lap | maybe unnecessarily |
14:23.21 | codefreeze-lap | looking |
14:23.31 | russellb | k! |
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16:21.10 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: what's up with the random assigning of that bug to Damin ? |
16:22.27 | putnopvut | heh, I asked that earlier. That came out of left field. |
16:25.10 | Corydon76-dig | Eh? |
16:25.14 | Corydon76-dig | What bug? |
16:25.28 | Qwell | 10690 |
16:25.38 | Qwell | 2008-09-08 19:34 Corydon76 Assigned To => damin |
16:26.21 | Corydon76-dig | Um, that would be a Mantis bug. I assigned it to myself. |
16:26.47 | seanbright | a likely story... |
16:28.39 | Corydon76-dig | Not the first time that has happened, either |
16:28.57 | putnopvut | Is it the fourth time that's happened? |
16:28.58 | Corydon76-dig | Although I caught it myself, before |
16:29.11 | seanbright | M13448 |
16:29.13 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Applications/app_queue 0013448: Queues with Dynamic members like "Local/" can't get status of member and sometime get second call from queue reported by slavon (Karma: +10.00) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13448 |
16:29.18 | seanbright | that's just a limitation in 1.4, right? |
16:29.42 | seanbright | 1.6.0 has the state interface concept |
16:30.11 | putnopvut | seanbright: that's correct. I was tempted to just close that, but I can't tell if there's something further to his problem. |
16:30.31 | putnopvut | He does the GROUP_COUNT stuff int he dialplan to prevent members from getting called even though their device state is "not in use" |
16:30.55 | putnopvut | But 1.6 definitely solves his problem with the state_interface stizzuff. |
16:31.24 | seanbright | well the group count will not handle the device statee |
16:31.44 | putnopvut | No, but it will prevent the call from actually being delivered. |
16:31.55 | seanbright | right, and he's saying sometimes they get more than 1 call |
16:31.59 | seanbright | hrmm. |
16:32.27 | seanbright | he never calls GROUP |
16:32.29 | putnopvut | I was thinking there was some OUTBOUND_GROUP_ONCE variable that needed to be used. I can't remember what it does or why it's needed though. |
16:32.59 | seanbright | doesn't he need to call GROUP() inside his if statement? |
16:33.03 | seanbright | or am i retarded? |
16:33.49 | seanbright | yeah, he does. |
16:33.53 | seanbright | that's his problem. |
16:34.38 | seanbright | Set(GROUP(agents)=${EXTEN}); |
16:34.42 | seanbright | or something like that. |
16:35.14 | seanbright | ohhhhhh |
16:35.21 | seanbright | i am retarded. |
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16:35.22 | seanbright | moving on. |
16:37.49 | seanbright | could be a race, no? |
16:38.09 | seanbright | between the GROUP_COUNT check and the Dial()? |
16:38.49 | seanbright | was it something i said? |
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17:18.25 | putnopvut | seanbright: heh, sorry, I got caught up with something else. |
17:18.30 | seanbright | no sweat. |
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17:33.34 | mvanbaak | hhmm, this talk about channelid in logging is interesting |
17:34.30 | Corydon76-dig | logging the thread ID in the CDR may actually be an easier way to go, since the thread ID is already a part of every log message |
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18:20.33 | Qwell | "If you have any DAHDI hardware it is now recommended you edit /etc/dahdi/modules in order to oad support for only the DAHDI hardware installed in this system." |
18:20.40 | Qwell | "oad" should that be "add" or "load"? |
18:21.10 | putnopvut | I think "load" |
18:21.58 | tzafrir_laptop | while we're at it, what about the dahdi.init ? |
18:22.15 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: what about it? |
18:22.20 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: when would the thread ID change for a channel? |
18:22.30 | tzafrir_laptop | current one can get stuck in a loop if you don't happen to have any module on your system |
18:22.34 | Qwell | oh |
18:22.44 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: masquerade |
18:22.54 | tzafrir_laptop | See the one in http://tzafrir.org.il/~tzafrir/ |
18:23.11 | russellb | a transfer, a redirect ... |
18:23.20 | Corydon76-dig | Ah |
18:24.33 | Corydon76-dig | But should a CDR be posted for each segment of the call in that case? |
18:25.00 | Corydon76-dig | because doesn't the uniqueid also change? |
18:26.02 | russellb | i am not very familiar at all with CDRs |
18:26.11 | russellb | so, maybe? :) |
18:26.34 | Corydon76-dig | If so, thread ID could still be a logical link there |
18:26.53 | Corydon76-dig | pokes codefreeze-lap |
18:27.44 | codefreeze-lap | Corydon76-dig: I'm watching your musings. The LinkedID field could serve as a "thread" id. |
18:28.46 | Corydon76-dig | codefreeze-lap: so does a CDR get posted following a masquerade? |
18:29.00 | codefreeze-lap | I intended it to be propagated across bridges and other interactions between channels. |
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18:29.22 | Corydon76-dig | What about conferences? |
18:29.25 | codefreeze-lap | No, cdrs are/were posted at various points during processing |
18:30.03 | codefreeze-lap | I tried to make the end of a bridge a common point where cdrs would get posted |
18:30.41 | Corydon76-dig | and a masquerade would be the end of a bridge? |
18:31.03 | codefreeze-lap | no, masquerades commonly happen in the middle of a bridge |
18:31.03 | russellb | masquerade happens before the end of a bridge, but if a masq occurs, the bridge will end shortly after |
18:31.42 | codefreeze-lap | The bridge code is interesting, in that the two channels you start with, may not be the same when you finish |
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18:36.20 | Corydon76-dig | Anyway, just thinking of a way not to have to go into a invasive change in the logging infrastructure |
18:36.32 | codefreeze-lap | Also, CDR's don't record enough. They have a src/dest concept, but that's not enough. They need to record the channel that placed the call, and the two channels that conversed. In a simple conv, the chan that dialed the call was the first half of who conversed, but in a xfer situation, A might dial, but B and C are the ones who talked. |
18:36.55 | Corydon76-dig | CDR infrastructure already has nearly enough and adding the threadid would be a very small change |
18:38.00 | Corydon76-dig | Well, and the changes I made for adaptive CDRs means we wouldn't necessarily need to change any APIs in the core |
18:38.34 | JunK-Y | [root@Neptune ~]# echo "foo" | mail cpatry@gmail.com |
18:38.34 | JunK-Y | -bash: /bin/mail: Cannot allocate memory |
18:38.36 | JunK-Y | its bad! |
18:38.38 | JunK-Y | heheh |
18:38.52 | Corydon76-dig | JunK-Y: virtual server? |
18:39.00 | JunK-Y | nah, that's the problem |
18:39.25 | tzafrir_laptop | russellb, hmm... I wasn't paying attention to the commit logs, aparantly |
18:39.35 | Corydon76-dig | I've only ever seen that error on a virtual server with no swap |
18:39.51 | tzafrir_laptop | any chance to somehow get http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel?view=rev&rev=4531 into zaptel 1.4.12.1 ? |
18:40.38 | russellb | tzafrir_laptop: hmmm, i don't know ... it might require a bribe |
18:40.39 | russellb | :) |
18:40.48 | codefreeze-lap | Also, CDR's don't really record for the reasons/events; like if we generated PARK/ MOH/ HOLD/ CONFERENCE type events; I guess these could be encoded in the accountcode field or something, but we could make it so much more formal. |
18:41.02 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: like Israeli chocolate? |
18:41.10 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: nice idea :) |
18:41.18 | tzafrir_laptop | Will be sent to Astricon :-) |
18:41.24 | russellb | yay! |
18:41.28 | russellb | then yes, i will do it now :-p |
18:41.43 | Corydon76-dig | No idea if Israeli chocolate is anything special, the way Swiss chocolate is... |
18:41.43 | Qwell | hey, no fair. putnopvut, Deeewayne, and I have to sign the release. :P |
18:41.47 | Qwell | coughs |
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18:42.31 | tzafrir_laptop | BTW: http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel?view=rev&rev=4534 only fixes typos |
18:43.06 | tzafrir_laptop | in docs |
18:43.10 | russellb | k |
18:44.31 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: that Israeli chocolate was pretty awesome btw |
18:44.48 | Qwell | the stuff we get here really sucks in comparison to over there |
18:45.04 | Juggie | its hard to get really good chocolate |
18:45.19 | kpfleming | not in belgium |
18:45.24 | russellb | heh |
18:45.30 | Qwell | Belgium != here :D |
18:45.33 | kpfleming | or germany, or france |
18:45.35 | Juggie | well, ok its hard to get really good chocolate here |
18:45.40 | Juggie | here being north america |
18:45.41 | Qwell | pretty much everywhere outside of North America.. |
18:45.57 | russellb | I bet it's hard to get chocolate in Antarctica |
18:46.06 | Juggie | or iceland |
18:46.07 | Qwell | that is probably true |
18:46.41 | russellb | or sealand |
18:46.47 | Qwell | or ISS |
18:47.03 | Qwell | actually, I bet ISS gets a good amount of chocolate |
18:47.06 | codefreeze-lap | From what I hear, iceland is quite the high-pay financial zone these days. I bet the chocolate flows there right now... |
18:47.16 | putnopvut | Does mantis support html tags like <strong> or <em> or anything like that? |
18:47.42 | seanbright | doubt it |
18:47.55 | putnopvut | I know it supports <pre> but I don't know what else it supports. |
18:48.01 | Qwell | <blink> |
18:48.02 | seanbright | oh yeah? didn't know that. |
18:48.06 | seanbright | <marquee> |
18:48.09 | russellb | <marquee> |
18:48.12 | russellb | seanbright: damnit |
18:48.23 | Qwell | (Did you see the Esquire E-ink cover that brought the <blink> tag to IRL?) |
18:48.23 | seanbright | hooray |
18:48.30 | seanbright | i beat you for once |
18:48.36 | russellb | :) |
18:48.52 | seanbright | that was an IE only tag i think |
18:48.54 | codefreeze-lap | hah, progress on the memory leak issues! |
18:49.00 | file | gives Qwell a taco |
18:49.03 | Qwell | eats it |
18:49.38 | Juggie | Qwell, you forgot to add hot sauce |
18:50.03 | seanbright | he has ulcers |
18:50.26 | Qwell | because of hot sauce, no doubt |
18:50.32 | Juggie | hot sauce is key |
18:50.33 | Juggie | gotta have it |
18:50.42 | Qwell | but, coming from file, I can only assume it was already poisoned |
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18:54.21 | codefreeze-lap | file: see 13409; there's a sip trace there. There are hung channels in tx: INVITE state, and I'm seeing that in falves11's server, also... thought it was just part of the normal activity of incoming/outgoing, but they are building up slowly. looks like all with the same IP again.... |
18:56.04 | Qwell | seanbright: isn't there an alternative save key in nmenuselect? |
18:56.12 | file | codefreeze-lap: is there a SIP history? |
18:56.16 | putnopvut | if there is, it needs to be displayed at the bottom. |
18:56.18 | Qwell | Nugget is yelling on the list about not being able to hit F12 :p |
18:56.50 | Juggie | most ssh clients are terrible about passing function keys |
18:56.59 | seanbright | Qwell: there is not, no. |
18:57.07 | Qwell | oh |
18:57.20 | Qwell | can we add curses-compat keys? |
18:57.20 | codefreeze-lap | file: he's attached a sip trace from "sip set debug" on the bug. |
18:58.22 | file | from the wrong channel I suspect... |
18:58.41 | file | cause that is an incoming call, and what you said about is from an outgoing call |
18:59.09 | caio1982 | Qwell: i'm not even able to hit Esc on it ;) |
18:59.18 | Qwell | caio1982: get a real OS :P |
18:59.26 | caio1982 | damn mandriva! |
19:01.08 | Juggie | i'll try i suppose |
19:01.23 | codefreeze-lap | file: OK, might be a false trail. I'll analyze the channel list in falves' server. There sure are a lot of channels in INVITE state, tho. I'll see if they stay that way or disappear. |
19:01.43 | file | a sip history will show you what chan_sip is internally doing with 'em |
19:11.46 | seanbright | Qwell: sure |
19:14.01 | seanbright | Qwell: why can't he hit f12? |
19:14.06 | Qwell | term issues |
19:14.11 | seanbright | jeebus. |
19:14.17 | Juggie | hmmmm |
19:14.18 | seanbright | but newt still works? |
19:14.20 | Qwell | he uses OS X :p |
19:14.26 | Qwell | he's SSHing to his Linux box |
19:14.43 | seanbright | fn-f12 |
19:14.46 | seanbright | done and done |
19:14.56 | Qwell | really? |
19:15.06 | seanbright | that worked on my old macbook |
19:15.21 | seanbright | turns magical f12 into literal f12 |
19:15.31 | Juggie | hmmmm... i cant even get menuselect to build for some reason |
19:15.31 | seanbright | and by magical i mean expose or whatever it's called |
19:15.43 | Juggie | its claming i have no newt or ncurses yet i have both w/ -devel for both. |
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19:16.14 | seanbright | Juggie: submit a bug on mantis |
19:16.18 | seanbright | :) |
19:16.21 | Qwell | seanbright: he says no |
19:16.24 | Juggie | i'll try a make distclean |
19:16.29 | seanbright | Qwell: drat |
19:16.43 | Juggie | initially my box was missing those packages |
19:16.51 | Juggie | its a fresh install of centos did it last week |
19:17.34 | Juggie | hmmm nope still doesnt work |
19:17.55 | seanbright | pastebin your config.log |
19:19.43 | seanbright | screw that... just tell him to run make nmenuselect |
19:19.45 | seanbright | err |
19:19.48 | seanbright | make cmenuselect |
19:20.05 | Qwell | seanbright: he did, it worked :p |
19:20.09 | seanbright | super |
19:20.22 | seanbright | newt uses F keys, that's just the way it is |
19:20.23 | seanbright | heh |
19:22.09 | Juggie | seanbright, http://www.pastebin.ca/1198428 |
19:24.13 | seanbright | Juggie: what version of asterisk is this?/ |
19:24.23 | seanbright | latest 1.6rc? |
19:24.25 | Juggie | trunk |
19:24.35 | seanbright | ok |
19:24.42 | Juggie | hmmm odd odd |
19:24.42 | seanbright | let me test (also on centos) |
19:24.47 | Juggie | did a second distclean |
19:24.48 | Juggie | works now |
19:25.10 | seanbright | super |
19:25.18 | Juggie | i havnt used this box to compile anything yet so i was adding packages as the configure failed |
19:25.21 | Juggie | and running configure again |
19:25.27 | Juggie | i guess that makes it unhappy |
19:25.42 | seanbright | before each build i do this: |
19:25.59 | seanbright | ./configure --enable-dev-mode;gmake distclean;./configure --enable-dev-mode;gmake menuselect |
19:26.07 | Juggie | that said, you'll be happy to know F12 works for me |
19:26.14 | Juggie | even on vista w/ putty :) |
19:26.20 | Juggie | (i know i know i'm at work) |
19:26.41 | seanbright | yeah... maybe we go back to making curses the default |
19:26.47 | seanbright | as much as i hate the thought of that |
19:27.05 | seanbright | newt has brought me nothing but pain |
19:27.06 | seanbright | :) |
19:27.22 | Juggie | the terminal doesnt render right though |
19:27.25 | Juggie | typical ansi crap |
19:27.35 | seanbright | what doesn't render right? |
19:28.05 | seanbright | imagebin a screenshot |
19:28.07 | seanbright | :) |
19:28.13 | Juggie | the line around the grey box is not there its all the letter a with the a with a hat :) |
19:28.21 | Juggie | but thats just my terminal not your fault |
19:28.22 | seanbright | ohh |
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19:28.31 | seanbright | does putty have a unicode mode? |
19:28.34 | seanbright | utf-8, rather. |
19:29.01 | seanbright | if so, you should turn that on |
19:29.02 | Juggie | yes, several |
19:29.44 | seanbright | doing that fixes man pages for me too |
19:29.46 | seanbright | for some reason. |
19:30.12 | Juggie | ah there we go |
19:30.17 | Juggie | setting it to UTF-8 worked. |
19:30.24 | seanbright | yeah? |
19:30.28 | seanbright | awesome |
19:30.55 | seanbright | if you don't mind spending $$ on software, i recommend SecureCRT from vandyke software |
19:31.06 | seanbright | it rocks |
19:31.10 | Juggie | i have it but the latest version crashes on me |
19:31.14 | seanbright | really? |
19:31.16 | seanbright | weird. |
19:31.22 | Juggie | keeps giving me some weird error about a semaphore |
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19:31.45 | seanbright | bizarre |
19:31.49 | Juggie | i thought so too |
19:32.01 | seanbright | seceurecrt <3 |
19:32.02 | Juggie | securecrt though does a terrible job at console emulation i find |
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19:32.07 | Juggie | i can never get it to look as good as putty |
19:33.48 | seanbright | http://imagebin.ca/view/s2T-SAp1.html |
19:34.00 | seanbright | mmm |
19:36.11 | file | hrm, do we have a way to signify that a variable should only be inherited and never be accessible from the current channel? random thought. |
19:36.22 | seanbright | no sir |
19:36.26 | Corydon76-dig | We do not |
19:36.46 | file | k |
19:36.49 | seanbright | what is that... a write-only variable? |
19:37.01 | putnopvut | file: what sort of use did you have in mind for that? |
19:37.37 | Corydon76-dig | I'm also curious |
19:37.38 | file | dunno |
19:37.41 | file | just popped up in my mind |
19:37.49 | putnopvut | mkay |
19:38.07 | Juggie | seanbright, http://donnyk.ca/putty-menuselect.png |
19:38.16 | Juggie | is that the correct render :P |
19:38.39 | Juggie | i feel like im missing scroll bars |
19:38.43 | file | seanbright: well... sort of... it would be inherited down if you dialed a channel and readable there, but not readable from your channel... |
19:38.48 | file | dunno what could be done with it, meh |
19:39.11 | Corydon76-dig | file: we have SHARED() variables and IAXVARs, though |
19:39.52 | Corydon76-dig | both are special encapsulations of variables for moving them between channels |
19:39.59 | file | NODS |
19:40.01 | file | erm |
19:40.15 | Corydon76-dig | You can also IMPORT() a variable from another |
19:40.25 | file | Corydon76-dig: I think you must be the person who has used datastores the most O.o |
19:40.38 | Corydon76-dig | Probably |
19:40.48 | putnopvut | datastores are kewl |
19:41.12 | Corydon76-dig | Yes, they are. Wish I'd completed my implementation first... |
19:41.12 | Juggie | seanbright? |
19:41.35 | Corydon76-dig | though I can't really complain too much about the current implementation |
19:41.36 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: was yours better than the one that's there? |
19:42.07 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: I'd say it was a lot more ambitious, which is probably also the reason it didn't get completed |
19:43.13 | Corydon76-dig | I wrote most of mine at one point, then got distracted by real work, and by the time I got back to it, it was so out of date with CVS, I pretty much abandoned the work |
19:44.09 | Corydon76-dig | This was also at a time when I had to submit every single patch to Mark via email and bug the crap out of him until it got committed, so there wasn't a lot of hope there |
19:45.14 | file | long long time ago |
19:45.23 | Corydon76-dig | Yes, it was |
19:45.35 | file | I can still remember... how the firewalled education net made me feel... |
19:45.50 | Corydon76-dig | Promoted, actually, by a comment from Mark that he didn't want to have to change the channel definition all the time to add new features |
19:46.39 | Corydon76-dig | but anyway, I'm happy with the current implementation |
19:46.58 | Corydon76-dig | Only thing I think I added was inheritance |
19:47.06 | file | aye |
19:47.20 | putnopvut | inheritance is a nice thing, too. |
19:48.04 | Corydon76-dig | and the current implementation probably avoids a lot of the issues that I was trying to solve with the ambitious code |
19:48.58 | Corydon76-dig | I was thinking that each channel extension would register itself and get events from the channel on creation, dialling, and hangup. |
19:49.42 | Corydon76-dig | instead of the current impl. which allows attachment, modification, and disposal of the datastore at any time |
19:50.00 | Corydon76-dig | which is a much more flexible way to go about it |
19:58.37 | seanbright | Juggie? |
19:58.40 | Juggie | yes |
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19:58.49 | seanbright | Juggie: oh... looking |
19:59.07 | seanbright | Juggie: yeah, no scroll bars... that's weird |
19:59.16 | seanbright | the newt scrollbars suck anyway |
19:59.26 | Juggie | is there supposed to be a solid border? |
19:59.44 | seanbright | yeah |
19:59.53 | seanbright | made with -s and +s |
20:00.44 | Juggie | what font do you use in securecrt for your terminal |
20:00.53 | seanbright | consolas |
20:00.57 | seanbright | MS font |
20:03.56 | Juggie | hmm |
20:05.09 | Juggie | do a screen shot of it in securecrt |
20:05.18 | seanbright | please? |
20:05.21 | seanbright | :) |
20:05.26 | Juggie | svp |
20:05.47 | seanbright | consolas ftw, btw. |
20:05.47 | seanbright | brb |
20:06.37 | seanbright | http://imagebin.ca/view/X6QWtW5J.html |
20:06.56 | Juggie | hrmf |
20:07.04 | Juggie | see if it works in putty for you |
20:07.10 | Juggie | i've never seen dashes ever :) |
20:10.09 | seanbright | hold |
20:10.25 | seanbright | i'll stop doing actual work just for you |
20:10.32 | Juggie | hmm works in secure crt, wonder what the difference is |
20:10.40 | Juggie | you do actual work? :P |
20:10.46 | seanbright | every week |
20:10.59 | Juggie | once a week... tuesday is work day :) |
20:11.11 | seanbright | precisely |
20:12.27 | outtolunc | hopes Feb 29th falls during the week this year <G> |
20:12.54 | outtolunc | boy i am tired, thinking wrong year.. |
20:14.02 | putnopvut | outtolunc: that's --really-- far off :) |
20:14.42 | outtolunc | yeah my brain clicked 2007 and feb 29th 2008 in future.. then click click.. DUH |
20:15.12 | outtolunc | only got like 1hr sleep last night, i should just keep my trap shut |
20:15.32 | seanbright | Juggie: ohhh |
20:15.39 | seanbright | it looks *awesome* in putty |
20:17.10 | seanbright | Juggie: consolas doesn't have the unicode line drawing characters |
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20:18.04 | seanbright | Juggie: http://imagebin.ca/view/UouPMwJ.html |
20:20.10 | seanbright | Juggie: i can't get that to look like that with SecureCRT |
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20:34.57 | seanbright | Juggie: for one, you need a font that supports the box drawing unicode characters |
20:35.03 | seanbright | courier new appears to support that |
20:35.18 | seanbright | as does lucida console |
20:36.30 | Juggie | ah woot |
20:36.33 | Juggie | mine looks better then yours :P |
20:36.39 | seanbright | lemme see |
20:37.47 | Juggie | seanbright, http://donnyk.ca/putty-menuselect.png |
20:38.16 | seanbright | that's mirc |
20:38.24 | Juggie | er woops |
20:38.35 | seanbright | what is #spank-me-daddy? |
20:38.37 | seanbright | nm |
20:39.03 | Juggie | there we go |
20:39.31 | caio1982 | seanbright: i thought you'd say #asstricks |
20:39.55 | seanbright | Juggie: that looks like this one -> http://imagebin.ca/view/UouPMwJ.html |
20:40.10 | Juggie | indeed |
20:40.14 | seanbright | your scrollbar looks better though |
20:40.20 | Juggie | but not like your securecrt one |
20:40.24 | Juggie | that one used dashes |
20:40.25 | seanbright | no |
20:40.30 | putnopvut | Hmm, I need to see if I'm still quoted as the topic in #asstricks |
20:40.31 | seanbright | i'm working on that, though |
20:40.45 | Juggie | known as 'poor mans line drawing' in putty :) |
20:40.48 | Juggie | anwyay i must go ciao. |
20:40.54 | seanbright | later |
20:42.00 | caio1982 | uh oh, ciao highlights my irc client |
20:42.25 | seanbright | don't join any french channels then |
20:42.26 | seanbright | :) |
20:42.59 | caio1982 | why french channels? |
20:43.14 | seanbright | isn't that what french people say? |
20:43.21 | caio1982 | italian |
20:43.26 | seanbright | same diff |
20:43.27 | caio1982 | :) |
20:43.29 | caio1982 | lol |
20:43.31 | putnopvut | The word is Italian, but I guess that doesn't preclude French people from saying it. |
20:43.32 | lmadsen | shakes his head at seanbright |
20:43.39 | caio1982 | putnopvut: indeed |
20:43.45 | seanbright | it's all greek to me |
20:44.17 | putnopvut | seanbright: sigma eta iota tau |
20:44.28 | seanbright | putnopvut: sember ubi sub ubi |
20:44.34 | seanbright | fudge... |
20:44.40 | seanbright | semper ubi sub ubi |
20:44.41 | putnopvut | always where under where? |
20:44.47 | lmadsen | putnopvut: mecha lecha hi mecha hiney ho! |
20:44.48 | putnopvut | always wear underwear... |
20:44.48 | seanbright | hooray |
20:45.16 | seanbright | lmadsen: pee wee's playhouse much? |
20:45.27 | putnopvut | wish? Did somebody say wish? |
20:45.35 | seanbright | heh |
20:45.48 | outtolunc | changes 'work day' to wednesday |
20:46.57 | snuff-home | thinks putnopvut has to be getting tired.. he cant be The Energizer Bunny.. |
20:47.11 | putnopvut | snuff-home: I think the tiredness is all going to hit me tomorrow. |
20:48.14 | snuff-home | mm well driving is not good without sleep for over 40 hrs.. its a bad mix |
20:48.48 | snuff-home | i've done it only twice.. and came rather close to accidents both times |
20:49.15 | seanbright | putnopvut: you've been up for a while? |
20:51.22 | Corydon76-dig | Good thing nobody put his battery in backwards |
20:52.22 | putnopvut | seanbright: yeah, I've been up for about ... 33 hours now. |
20:52.27 | seanbright | putnopvut: why? |
20:52.32 | putnopvut | Couldn't sleep last night. |
20:52.37 | seanbright | ah |
20:52.41 | seanbright | try porn? |
20:52.42 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: he's a masochist |
20:52.59 | seanbright | apparently |
20:53.05 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: that statement is funny right after seanbright's question. |
20:53.05 | Corydon76-dig | Or too much caffeine |
20:53.14 | putnopvut | I don't know why, really. |
20:53.33 | Corydon76-dig | Heh |
20:53.43 | seanbright | putnopvut: well you'll sleep well tonight |
20:53.44 | putnopvut | But that's why there were commits and bugnotes left from me between 2-6 AM this morning. |
20:53.49 | seanbright | ah |
20:55.22 | outtolunc | things it was the paella that kept me up |
20:55.41 | outtolunc | thinks (or not) <G> sheesh |
20:55.52 | putnopvut | mmmm...paella |
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21:05.03 | seanbright | more french words... |
21:05.20 | putnopvut | seanbright: you need to visit Europe, man. |
21:05.25 | seanbright | heh |
21:05.49 | seanbright | don't have the time, money, or desire |
21:05.57 | putnopvut | I have only the desire at this point. |
21:06.04 | seanbright | i know what's there |
21:06.04 | putnopvut | I took a six week trip there two years ago. |
21:11.33 | seanbright | fine. you're better than me. there, i said it. |
21:11.36 | seanbright | :) |
21:12.14 | seanbright | and on that note |
21:12.16 | seanbright | i retired. |
21:12.24 | seanbright | s/ed/e/ |
21:12.57 | putnopvut | Holy crap, seanbright has admitted my dominance! I win! |
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22:14.48 | jsmith-teaching | may have just found a bug in 1.6.0 |
22:17.09 | jsmith-teaching | scratches his head, chalks it up to gremlins, and moves on |
22:20.01 | snuff-work | mm how high has our rc revisions gone.. i remember at least rc4 for the 1.4.21 i think.. |
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23:08.53 | philippel | Qwell ping |
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