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| 13:36.36 | d1mas | ok, repeating here: hello. Question - why asterisk does not create hint when it registers sip/iax realtime friend? If that friend is described by users.conf, the hint is created... |
| 13:37.15 | file | because in realtime without caching it is not kept in memory, and presently that is required for hints to work |
| 13:38.00 | d1mas | rtcache is on. Asterisk creates NoOp priority 1 but does not create hinr |
| 13:38.02 | d1mas | hint |
| 13:38.20 | file | 1.4? |
| 13:38.23 | d1mas | yes |
| 13:38.32 | file | call-limit set? |
| 13:38.38 | file | limitonpeer set? |
| 13:38.57 | d1mas | no, no. |
| 13:39.06 | file | that would be why |
| 13:39.47 | file | Corydon76-dig: firewalled! |
| 13:40.09 | d1mas | hmmm... I will check. But it is just a bit strange - for users.conf everything worked without these parameters. after all. Anyway, thanks, will check |
| 13:40.16 | Corydon76-dig | I'll just have to relay via someone inside the firewall... |
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| 13:47.22 | d1mas | file: at first glance, chan_sip for example does not do any ast_add_extension except for NoOp. So I doubt call limits will help |
| 13:47.51 | file | oh you mean the literal hint in extensions.conf |
| 13:47.54 | file | that's up to you |
| 13:50.18 | d1mas | hm.. but the hint extension is used to get device status (for SIP SUBSCRIBEs for example). If it is missing, status can not be read. Right? |
| 13:51.14 | file | a SIP phone attempting to subscribe for it can't, but it can be read internally |
| 13:52.49 | d1mas | not sue I understand. How can it be read? ast_get_hint will retun nothing... |
| 13:53.15 | file | internally stuff queries via the device, not an extension |
| 13:53.29 | file | the only time the extension is used is (currently) for a SIP phone subscribing to the status of an extension |
| 13:54.26 | d1mas | which means SIP subscribes do not work? |
| 13:54.36 | file | if you don't put a hint in, they do not |
| 13:55.04 | d1mas | but I can't put a hint for extension registered dynamically by sip/iax... |
| 13:55.21 | file | sure you can, it'll just say they aren't available or something |
| 13:55.52 | d1mas | that is the same hint for all extesions? constant? |
| 13:56.01 | file | huh? |
| 13:57.55 | d1mas | sorry. Reading AEL docs. looks like I can put single hint for all extensions (like hint _XXXX => {...} ) )but it will be the same. That is it can't be used to really represent device state |
| 13:58.32 | d1mas | The question: if asterisk has notion of device states, why hints are used to handle SIP SUBSCRIBEs ? |
| 13:59.00 | file | because people subscribe to an extension, Asterisk has to know what device that extension corresponds to |
| 13:59.13 | d1mas | right... |
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| 14:04.36 | d1mas | Is't it a good idea to create a hint in addition to NoOp when registering SIP/IAX realtime peer? |
| 14:04.59 | d1mas | ok "is it a bad idea" is better question :) |
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| 14:22.21 | d1mas | file? |
| 14:24.36 | Corydon76-dig | Remember that file is a star at Astricon... he's probably been mobbed... |
| 14:24.52 | d1mas | oh... |
| 14:25.34 | blitzrage | I'm going to mug him |
| 14:26.00 | Corydon76-dig | blitzrage: and tickle him? |
| 14:26.18 | d1mas | well, I do not need him exactly :) He was the person how responded to me initially so that is why I was querying him :) |
| 14:26.40 | d1mas | The question is: Is is a bad idea to automatically create a hint in addition to NoOp when registering SIP/IAX realtime peer? |
| 14:27.05 | Corydon76-dig | How would you know what extension at which to put a device? |
| 14:27.51 | Corydon76-dig | So device SIP/snarglefuss registers. What hint do you create? |
| 14:28.05 | d1mas | the same extension where NoOp is created :) |
| 14:29.20 | jsmith-away | No, what does the hint *point to* |
| 14:30.08 | d1mas | SIP/${username} ? |
| 14:30.21 | Corydon76-dig | d1mas: "Yes, but that's in regcontext, which is probably not the same as context |
| 14:30.51 | Corydon76-dig | So it won't help you |
| 14:31.13 | d1mas | SIP fullcontact ? |
| 14:31.40 | Corydon76-dig | and the context that one device is in isn't necessarily the context that other devices are in. Better to let the admin decide where to put the hint |
| 14:33.12 | Corydon76-dig | It's not the problem of being wrong... it's the problem of being irrelevant... |
| 14:33.42 | d1mas | Can admin put a hint in a way that it is specified once but it will automatically "instantiated" for every SIP device registered? |
| 14:34.15 | Corydon76-dig | Nope... not yet, anyway |
| 14:34.38 | Corydon76-dig | I had something like that in mind, but it's far from ready |
| 14:35.08 | d1mas | pity :) |
| 14:35.16 | Corydon76-dig | M7767 |
| 14:35.17 | MuffinMan | [assigned] [Asterisk] Core/Configuration 0007767: [patch] Allow a simple lookup for hint extensions reported by Corydon76 http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=7767 |
| 14:36.44 | d1mas | btw, if you thinking about "templates", I think it would be a good feature to have an ability to provide dialplan template for each registration. Currently when parsing users.conf two priorities registered for each user. But these are hardcoded. Template would let me to do something else insetad of calling stdexten |
| 14:37.48 | d1mas | the same templating "engine" could be used to generate dialplan for SIP/IAX registrations.. |
| 14:38.16 | Corydon76-dig | We have lots of a good ideas floating around out there... the question is, what gets done? |
| 14:39.26 | d1mas | i know, i know... it was about "if you are already working on that or thinking of that" |
| 14:40.50 | Corydon76-dig | Well, I was thinking about that... about 6 months ago... |
| 14:42.55 | d1mas | hm.. thinking of.. alternative. What if allow specifying context in hints? that is SIP/1010@default ? |
| 14:43.21 | d1mas | in this case it will be possible to automatically registering hint in addition to NoOp for SIP/IAX peers... |
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| 16:19.32 | *** topic/#asterisk-bugs by Deeewayne -> Asterisk Bugs Discussion -=- http://bugs.digium.com/ -=- http://asterisk.org/developers/bug-guidelines - Asterisk 1.4.11 has been released (August 21, 2007). -=- If you are not discussing a report already posted to the bugtracker, the discussion probably belongs in #asterisk. -=- Goodbye 1.2. We'll miss you. Maybe. -=- Overall bug count: < (340+20) |
| 16:19.46 | Qwell_ | Deeewayne: :( |
| 16:19.58 | Deeewayne | :( |
| 16:28.44 | jmls | M7706 |
| 16:28.45 | MuffinMan | [assigned] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_local 0007706: Redirecting Local channels to Meetme causes a crash when executing "core show channels" reported by BigJimmy http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=7706 |
| 16:28.50 | jmls | heh |
| 16:28.52 | jmls | gl |
| 16:30.17 | Deeewayne | lol...thanks :-) |
| 16:38.46 | Corydon76-dig | Deeewayne: must be pretty empty today |
| 16:39.59 | Deeewayne | It's me, James, PQ, and some hardwarians |
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| 18:17.57 | d1mas | hm.. I'm full of questions today... What is the reason in creating empty ast_channel everywhere you need to call pbx_substitute_variables_helper instead of letting it accept NULL channel ? |
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| 18:31.43 | jcmoore | M9305 |
| 18:31.45 | MuffinMan | [confirmed] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/Transfers 0009305: [patch] REINVITE before 200ok causes a call to be ended reported by atca_pres http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=9305 |
| 18:32.29 | jcmoore | Since everyone's together at Astricon, could we get some folks to look over the patch in that bug, it seems to fix things for me and it'd be nice to get it committed into 1.4/trunk ASAP |
| 18:34.41 | jcmoore | on a related note, if there is a SIP call where RTP was setup directly between A and B and A hangs up, should Asterisk be sending a re-INVITE to B before sending a BYE to B? |
| 18:35.34 | jcmoore | It seems that whenever the bridge is broken Asterisk should just send a BYE to B straightaway instead of first reinviting the media back to Asterisk and then sending a BYE to B |
| 18:56.43 | d1mas | corydon76: I had some thoughts about context & hints. What is the problem in automatically registering hint in the same context where Noop is put (that is regcontext)? Yes,regcontext can be different from context and yes, other devices can be in other regcontexts. So what? when users.conf is parsed, hint is always put to the same context as a call to stdexten but everybody happy... |
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| 19:16.18 | d1mas | why to care about contexts at all? |
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