IRC log for #arl on 20160717

00:06.06TorhalCheck to see if you're using GetTotalDisplayed (or whatever) instead of GetNum
00:06.11TorhalRessy: ^
00:06.20TorhalI'm taking tomorrow off, by the way.
00:07.05TorhalI'll try to get the game-breaking shit fixed at least; I have plenty of other projects I need to make sure aren't completely broken for Tuesday.
00:08.29RessyWhich should be used?
00:08.49Ressylocal num_mounts = _G.C_MountJournal.GetNumMounts()
00:09.04TorhalTry that
00:09.11RessyThats whats in right now.
00:09.19TorhalWe want to see ALL of them, not just what the game will display to us.
00:09.34TorhalOk
00:09.35TorhalWell, shit.
00:15.00Ressymkay... They removed Tyrael's charger as well.
00:15.06RessyD3 annual pass.
00:15.19Ressymakes sense I guess since you absolutely can't get it anymore.
00:16.12TorhalSo they aren't returning data for them at all?
00:16.20TorhalThat doesn't make any sense. If you HAVE the mount...
00:16.51Ressyif you have it, you see it.
00:16.53Ressyotherwise, you don't
00:17.05TorhalI guess it isn't exactly like the professions API
00:17.06TorhalBecause we had to blacklist shit for that
00:17.10Torhal(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
00:17.56Ressylol
00:21.21RessyOther than the wardrobe addition, collectinator's ready to go.
00:27.34TorhalWardrobe and the expansion image?
00:57.36Ressyyeah
00:58.02RessySorry, was putting munchkin to bed
01:10.44Ressyhad to take my steroids to drop swelling.. Freakin headache
01:12.05Torhal:/
01:12.37RessyAllergic rhinitis.
01:12.39Ressyyay me.
01:12.39Ressy:(
01:12.47Ressyclaritin & benedryl do shit
01:13.05TorhalYou need to just go full Bubble Girl.
01:13.50RessyEh
01:14.36TorhalSo what was broken for Heirlooms?
01:14.40RessyDidn't realize how bad my sinuses were today til I did a rinse and my steroids. :\
01:14.42TorhalI see you changed it to Displayed
01:14.46Torhal:/
01:14.54Ressyyeah.
01:14.58RessyNum caused errors. :\
01:15.57Ressyas for pets...
01:16.04RessyI stopped adding itemid & spellid.
01:18.06TorhalI don't even know what that means. :D
01:18.19TorhalI've never been in-tune with Collectinator's internals; was always Ackis's baby.
01:18.26Ressylol
01:18.44RessyAll the info comes from the npc id which is the key for pets..
01:18.50Ressyso.. no need to add spell/item ids
01:19.34TorhalThat means there is unnecessary code that should go away.
01:20.04TorhalDamned if I know what it is.
01:20.23Ressylol
01:20.31RessyLets not focus on that atm.
01:24.56Ressyoooh. vodka.
01:25.01Ressyits a pain killer, right?
01:25.41TorhalAnd cause.
01:25.47TorhalIf you don't hydrate.
01:26.05TorhalOr if you fall out of your chair, run your shin into a coffee table, etc.
01:27.00Ressyyum
01:27.47Ressyhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n4B6e6UUMGA/V4rfCFVeDII/AAAAAAAALww/EMqtcIVWax47lPiwhna6WMJBaUD3yAJdwCL0B/w617-h823-no/4566837777170733681%253Faccount_id%253D1
01:28.50Torhal:D
01:29.35TorhalOk, just rewrote the Heirloom scanning code. I couldn't shake the feeling that using GetNumDisplayedHeirlooms was a bad idea.
01:29.46Ressylmao
01:30.14TorhalAnd the reason it was dying when using GetNumHeirlooms is because you were also using GetHeirloomIDFromDisplayedIndex - going outside the bounds :)
01:30.40Ressylol
01:30.42TorhalPushed.
01:31.04TorhalNow it just grabs the list of IDs, not giving a fuck about how many there are.
01:31.11Ressylol. k
01:31.34TorhalI actually slept six hours in a row, then was up for three, then slept for two more.
01:31.38TorhalSo I got SOME rest. And it seems to be a slow shift thusfar.
01:31.47Ressyoh wow.
01:33.37RessyMan... I'm not even getting that.
01:33.49RessyKeep waking 2 or 3 am..
01:33.57Ressythen back asleep for another 2 or 3 hrs.
01:34.01Ressythen back asleep again.
01:34.02Ressyugh.
01:36.04TorhalRewriting the mount scanning code similarly. Probably going to do them all, if they have similar API
01:36.26RessyGonna do wardrobe for me?
01:41.04TorhalNo
01:41.06TorhalWardrobe bad.
01:41.11Ressy:(
01:41.14Torhallol
01:41.22RessyYeah I know its bad.
01:41.34TorhalI'll look at it after I'm done with this. I want to make sure this is working properly.
01:41.45Ressyk :D
01:43.48TorhalWe want to get ALL the data. Right now, we're just looking at shit that's being displayed in the UI
01:44.04TorhalThat might be why you had to remove mounts.
01:44.19Ressymkay..
01:47.29RessyI'm thinking the client isn't caching the item/spell info, hense the "Unknown?
01:47.47TorhalOh, dear.
01:48.29Ressyunless its in the UI
01:48.34TorhalRessy: Pull, reload, feel the hate.
01:48.40Ressylol
01:48.41TorhalUntracked: 66
01:48.42Torhal>.>
01:49.09TorhalBasically everything you removed
01:49.24Ressybut, will it show up as unknown.
01:49.43TorhalNo
01:49.46TorhalThey all have names
01:50.04RessyI mean once its in the panel. :P
01:50.44TorhalDunno. But if they do that means the display code needs rewritten since it's obviously available to the mount journal API.
01:52.04TorhalPeople are scary. This is from an IRC client support channel:
01:52.05Torhal[20:40:32] Electrometro:can I have it not leave channels when my mac sleeps?
01:52.06Torhal[20:41:52] +milky:Electrometro when your Mac goes to sleep, there is no Internet access
01:52.11Torhal:D
01:53.37Ressysnorts
01:56.35Ressylmao
01:56.42RessyOne of the mounts that popped up int he dump.
01:56.44Ressyhttp://legion.wowhead.com/spell=6896/black-ram#comments
01:56.49Ressy"This spell is not in game."
01:57.08TorhalSo it is similar to the TradeSkillUI API
01:57.13Ressyapparently.
02:06.49RessyAre you adding a blacklist? :D
02:07.04Torhal:O
02:07.35TorhalSo needy.
02:08.04TorhalYeah, since they're showing stuff that isn't available
02:09.32Ressylmao
02:10.06Ressyyay.
02:10.38Ressyyour changes have the pvp mounts show up properly.
02:10.52RessyDo what you just did with mounts, to toybox. :D
02:14.35TorhalI just tried
02:14.36TorhalNo dice.
02:14.37TorhalNo equivalent API
02:14.40Ressyaww
02:14.41Ressymkay
02:15.01Ressywhere can you find all these API calls.
02:15.19TorhalI'm just dumping the collection
02:15.34TorhalLike /dump C_ToyBox
02:15.37Ressyohh
02:20.34TorhalOk, can't do shit for ToyBox and everything else is covered, so I'll look at the Wardrobe shit.
02:21.03RessyYAY!
02:21.46TorhalThe copypaste is strong with this one.
02:22.05Ressylol
02:22.09Ressythats what I started doing.
02:22.13Ressythen it was.. wtf.
02:22.31Ressyand so i reverted it and decided to wait for you to do it correctly.
02:22.43TorhalOk, what am I doing here?
02:22.51TorhalThere is no such thing as C_Wardrobe
02:22.57RessyC_Transmog
02:23.01RessyC_TransmogCollection
02:25.16TorhalSo why are we calling it wardrobe?
02:25.17TorhalI'm confused.
02:25.20Ressyshrugs
02:25.35TorhalThe tab even says "Appearances" :)
02:25.40RessyAh
02:25.57Ressyit used to say Wardrobe
02:26.01Ressythose sneaky bums
02:26.05TorhalAh
02:26.07TorhalFucking Blizzard.
02:26.15TorhalJust call it transmog FFS
02:26.26Ressylol
02:26.35TorhalOr call the goddamn API C_Appearance
02:26.36TorhalJust be consistent.
02:27.22Ressyyeah
02:27.30RessyBlizzard_Wardrobe.lua
02:27.37Ressyeverywehere else it was wardrobe
02:27.48TorhalMore like Blizzard_OMGWTFBBQ.lua
02:27.58Ressysnorts
02:32.35TorhalJesus
02:32.44TorhalC_TransmodCollection.GetOutfits()
02:32.46Torhal...
02:33.04TorhalYes, I typoed, but you get the point.
02:33.09Ressylol
02:33.12TorhalSo internally they're using Wardrobe, Appearance, and Outfit
02:33.14TorhalWHAT THE FUCK
02:33.20RessyThey crazy
02:33.21TorhalPICK ONE
02:33.27RessyI have all the data for it in front of me tho...
02:33.34RessyFrom another addon called Legion Wardrobe.
02:33.35Ressy>.>
02:46.41TorhalMeh. It's like none of these APIs had the same designer
02:46.51TorhalI'm trying to figure out how to get a fucking list of appearances.
02:47.07TorhalThere's nothing like GetOutfitIDs or GetNumOutfits
02:47.34TorhalGuess I'll have to look at the Blizzard AddOn to see what the fuck they're doing.
02:50.19RessyI think its all based off that one basevisualid
02:50.56Ressylocal baseSourceID, baseVisualID, appliedSourceID, appliedVisualID, pendingSourceID, pendingVisualID, hasPendingUndo = C_Transmog.GetSlotVisualInfo(GetInventorySlotInfo(slotButton.slot), slotButton.transmogType);
02:58.04TorhalOk, but compared to the other APIs I have no baseline
02:58.05TorhalAnd I apparently have to iterate over SOMETHING :D
02:58.15TorhalJust don't know what that is, hence needing to look at their AddOn
02:58.19Ressymkays
02:58.24Ressyhttps://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/Blizzard_Collections/Blizzard_Wardrobe.lua
02:58.36TorhalOh, shit. I'm now blind.
02:58.51Ressylol
02:59.02Ressyyeah. too bright
02:59.04Torhalopens in his dark editor.
02:59.14Ressybetween the sinus headache all fucking day..
02:59.21Ressyand now the vodka. :D
03:02.10TorhalI'm still not completely right. Took me a good 30 seconds to remember the name of Sublime Text.
03:03.31Ressyack
03:19.34TorhalThis shit is WAT
03:21.26Ressylmao
03:37.04Ressybedtime for meeeeee
03:41.14TorhalLIES
03:41.15TorhalMOAR VODKA
03:41.17Torhal>.>
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14:24.56Ressyhais
14:25.10Torhal[00:11:31] Torhal:Ok, the C_Transmog and C_TransmogCollection APIs are officially evil.
14:25.11Torhal[02:24:43] Torhal:It's weird that C_MountJournal and C_TradeSkillUI have similar API, yet C_PetJournal and C_ToyBox and C_TransmogCollection are completely different. The weirder of the them being the Transmog and PetJournal ones.
14:25.12Torhal[02:25:40] Torhal:With the former two, I can just say "Give me ALL the IDs." The PetJournal requires a weird flag dance, the ToyBox requires iteration to get the IDs, and TransmogCollection is just completely batshit.
14:25.22Torhal[02:29:54] Torhal:Ressy really wants Transmog/Wardrobe/Appearance (Blizzard can't make up their mind what the fuck it's called) support in Collectinator, but the more I look at this stuff the more I think "Nope."
14:25.41Torhal[02:36:01] Torhal:With professions and mounts, we need a blacklist because they return IDs which were either never in the game or have been removed.
14:25.41Torhal[02:37:43] Torhal:I just need something where I can say "Give me all the appearance IDs. All of them." Then I can work from that. Nope. Apparently I need to iterate through one API and assign stuff to a model I'll never display, then call a method on the model to get more information which requires more gymnastics, etc.
14:25.42Torhal[02:37:58] Torhal:Wackadoodle.
14:26.11TorhalLike, a 3D model. What the fuck?
14:26.15TorhalAlso, hais.
14:28.25Ressyack
14:34.02RessyI get now why all those itemids are in that database.
14:34.15Ressyit scans all itemids and all quests, and based on that, sets to collected.
14:36.51TorhalWackadoodle.
14:42.10Torhalhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53787&highlight=C_TransmogCollection
14:42.11Torhalhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53734
14:43.22TorhalI did push updates to ARL and Collectinator, and ARL_Tailoring
14:43.57TorhalThen I started researching the Wardrobe shit, and decided to turn power off to my thermostat and install my ecoBee3.
14:44.14TorhalErr, thermostat and HVAC.
14:45.10Ressyah
14:45.47Ressywhy tailoring?
14:46.10TorhalI ran into a trainer in The Crossroads that popped up missing recipes.
14:46.34Ressyoh
14:47.20RessyI love my computer. <3
14:47.36RessyRunning live & Beta at max settings for both, and barely hitting it. lol
14:47.40TorhalYou got a new one?
14:47.51TorhalNoice!
14:48.33RessyI built it jan 2015?
14:48.49RessyIt just made sure to over build. heh
14:49.25TorhalOh. Wow.
14:49.34Ressyi7, 16gb RAM, 1tb drive, 500gig drive, and my main drive is a 240gb ssd
14:49.47Ressyerr
14:49.50Ressyi7 4790k
14:50.47Ressystill got my old r9 270..
14:52.10TorhalIs it bad that I think that might be an AMD card?
14:52.19RessyIt is. :P
14:52.28RessyIt is an AMD card.
14:53.09TorhalOk, I think I bought an R-something for James.
14:53.10Torhal¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:29.10TorhalRessy: Anywho, check the pushes, tell me if anything is missing. I swore you had a task for adding instance difficulties, but I have no damn clue where it went.
15:37.11RessyYeah.. I wasn't sure whether or not it would be helpful.. But realized it probably would for wardrobe.
15:38.33Ressyif you could implement that... I could go back and fix shit. :D
15:44.25TorhalStill not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be doing. Right now I have "Wardrobe" which could mean anything
15:44.26Torhal:D
15:45.53Ressylol
15:46.12TorhalType it up in that task pretty please and I'll start looking at it.
15:47.06Ressydamn
15:48.26RessyDo you still have that email from that one task?
15:48.51RessyI think I deleted it. shit.
15:49.10TorhalUh
15:49.25Ressyits ok... I'll go back and recreate it quick. :)
15:49.44TorhalRessy: Yo
15:49.49TorhalMore & more mounts, toys, wardrobe items only drop from a mob on a specific raid/instance difficulty level.. Ie, LFG vs Heroic vs Mythic.
15:49.49TorhalNeed a setting in AddMobDrop, ala AddLimitedVendor
15:49.49Torhal0 - No change
15:49.49Torhal1 - Heroic
15:49.49Torhal2 - LFG
15:49.50Torhal3 - Mythic
15:49.51Torhal:D
15:50.06Ressylol.. I expanded it after the email obviously.
15:50.30Ressyoh
15:50.37RessyAddMobDrop(mobID, difficultylevel, mobid, difficultylevel)
15:50.40Ressyfor difficultylevel
15:50.55Ressywould it be easier to have nil, heroic, lfg, mythic, etc
15:50.56Ressyor numbers
15:52.52TorhalI like enumerations, like V.WOD
15:53.10TorhalWhich is shorthand for private.GAME_VERSIONS.WOD
15:53.16TorhalWhich is a number.
15:53.20Ressymkay..
15:53.24RessyD.MYTHIC
15:53.27RessyD.NIL
15:53.32Ressyor nil
15:53.35Ressyvs D.MYTHIC
15:53.37RessyD.HEROIC
15:53.56TorhalD.IAF ?
15:54.00Ressylmao
15:54.04RessyD for difficulty level?
15:54.10Torhalhides.
15:54.20TorhalOr something. I can always change it.
16:04.33Ressygoddamn.
16:04.50Ressytoo many freakin options.
16:08.10TorhalHmm?
16:08.34Ressyso far...
16:08.35Ressynil - no difficulty level - a mob in the world
16:08.35RessyD.LFG - LFG - Display as Mob name (LFG)
16:08.35RessyD.HEROIC - Display as Mob name (Heroic+)
16:08.35RessyD.FLEX - Display as Mob name (Normal flex & LFG)
16:08.35RessyD.MYTHIC - Display as Mob name (Mythic)
16:08.36RessyD.25MAN - Display as Mob name (25 man)
16:08.36RessyD.10MAN - Display as Mob name (10 man)
16:09.13RessyI dunno how to do "Normal & Heroic" tho.
16:09.14TorhalWill all of those be used?
16:09.14Ressylol
16:09.16Ressyyeah
16:09.21RessyI'm going based off everything used.
16:09.23TorhalJeebus.
16:09.25Ressyyeah
16:10.09TorhalNORMAL, HEROIC, NORMAL10, HEROIC10 <-- Like that?
16:11.40RessyI'm looking through the db right now.
16:14.01Ressy10/25 for the old stuffs.
16:16.40RessyCuz heroic and mythic stuff now are automatically flex...
16:23.18TorhalI saved the day by shrinking the reputation expansion logos 10%
16:23.28Ressylol
16:23.29Ressysaw that
16:23.39TorhalNow I have two years to figure out another way to show them.
16:23.40Torhal>.>
16:24.34Ressylol
16:24.39Ressyscrollable! :D
16:24.53TorhalFour years if I get rid of Cata!
16:24.56TorhalHas no reps.
16:25.01Ressylol
16:26.36RessyCan we add more later if we need to?
16:27.10TorhalIt's literally adding an entry to a list.
16:27.16Ressyperfect
16:27.49TorhalThis does mean, however, that I need to dump all of the DBs with conversion code, then bump the module versions.
16:28.09RessyErr..
16:28.19RessyThe addmobdrop is only for collectinator.
16:28.40TorhalOh, didn't realize it was lacking that.
16:28.45Torhal¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:28.50TorhalThe fuck do I know about that AddOn?
16:29.00RessyWe already have addmobdrop
16:29.05Ressybut we don't have these needed settings
16:29.09RessyARL doesn't need them.
16:29.40TorhalOh, even better since Collectinator has no dump.
16:29.41TorhalALL MANUAL
16:29.42Torhal:D
16:30.01RessyIts fine. I can go back and do them all manually. :)
16:30.10RessyIt's not too bad.
16:30.57RessyI think thats everything.
16:31.55Ressylots of potential settings..
16:32.00RessyNot so much used right now..
16:32.06Ressybut will be once wardrobe support is in.
16:33.05RessyActually..
16:33.16RessyI took out the 10/25 heroic/normal
16:34.00RessyI think.
16:34.52TorhalLFG? Wat.
16:35.09TorhalThat's its own difficulty now?
16:35.49Ressyyeah...
16:36.18Ressywait
16:36.19RessyLFR
16:36.32Ressygah
16:36.39RessyI need more caffeine
16:37.39TorhalI've been awake for almost 19 hours and Jellybean is whining because Kelly left to see her father in Kentucky.
16:38.09TorhalHe does this every time she goes grocery shopping, and it's even more fun when she takes trips.
16:38.12TorhalShe's been gone almost 4 hours.
16:38.13Torhallol
16:38.39TorhalIf I'm sleeping when she leaves, he hops in the bed and walks on me while whining.
16:41.14TorhalOhai: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u86h3vp9px8z9j9/Screenshot%202016-07-17%2011.41.02.png
16:49.16RessyYeah.
16:49.20RessyIt'll suck but.. *shrugs*
16:55.09TorhalWaaaaaait.
16:55.15TorhalIs there every a case where something is dropped in multiple difficulties?
16:55.20Torhalever*
16:56.00Ressyyeah
16:56.07Ressypets
16:56.17Ressydifferent pets in different raid difficulties.
16:56.46Ressydifferent visuals in different raid difficulties.
16:56.53RessyLFR vs Normal vs HEROIC vs Mythic
16:57.39TorhalBut all the same ID?
16:57.42TorhalAlso, burning question: Sleep or coffee?
16:57.59RessyIf I nap, I won't wake for hours. :\
16:58.14Ressyditto for you.
16:58.18Ressyyou might miss your shift?
17:00.40TorhalI took off today, remember?
17:01.10TorhalI'm just wondering if I'll be more productive after sleep or plowing through all caffeinated like I used to. Back in the dark ages.
17:01.23Ressyooooh
17:01.28Ressyhow'd you manage to get the day off?
17:01.40TorhalI said I was taking the day off.
17:01.44Torhallol
17:01.59Ressylol
17:02.01Ressywho's covering?
17:02.09TorhalDespite the fact that it's actually one of my normally-scheduled days. Because two months in a row.
17:02.10TorhalNobody.
17:02.39TorhalI'll probably check every once in awhile so it doesn't get clobbered.
17:03.39TorhalI doubt I'll get an okay on it for at least two weeks after Tuesday.
17:03.48TorhalSo figured I should do it now, especially since I needed it anyway.
17:04.08Ressyahh
17:04.11RessyWanna laugh?
17:04.11Ressyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zyHTHrs8Sw
17:09.10TorhalEvil
17:12.47TorhalDid you say anything after I said "Evil"? I restarted my IRC client and it only gave playback up to where you said "Yeah."
17:13.09TorhalWeird.
17:13.10TorhalNever had that happen before.
17:13.26Ressynada
17:14.16TorhalRestarted again and now I have everything. So odd.
17:14.20Ressylol
17:18.17TorhalRessy: I'm going to work on my ARL rewrite until I get details on that task.
17:19.07RessyIt was added?
17:19.18TorhalThe Wardrobe clarification?
17:19.22Ressyoh
17:19.29RessySo... what do you want?
17:19.55TorhalTo know what I'm supposed to do. All I have is "Wardrobe" and I have NFC what all that entails.
17:20.08Ressymkay.. What do you want to do it based off.. Basevisualid?
17:20.27RessyThats what I thought it was to be based off..
17:20.29TorhalForget the technical details. Give me a design writeup. :)
17:20.47TorhalI don't know what it's supposed to do.
17:20.55RessyMkay..
17:21.16TorhalI thought "Go here to get this appearance" but it's much more involved if what I was reading earlier was any indication.
17:21.18RessyHonestly.. I want to be able to have support, I'm just kinda confused what to display.
17:21.55Ressyeach appearance can have more than 1 item linked to it.
17:22.53RessyWe could list all items available in the UI, and remove anything that's been collected, as well as any that matches a basevisualid.
17:25.31Ressyif we do it by itemid, and link a basevisualid, we can easily set a mobdrop/acquire type.
17:25.53Ressyif we do it by visualid, we need to set multiple itemids, and somehow link a specific itemid to acquiretype.
17:28.57TorhalI don't know :/
17:29.46TorhalThough after seeing the new TradeSkillUI panel, I'm thinking I'll redo ARL's UI to use that - it's bigger.
17:29.51Ressyah
17:29.56Ressyin a day?
17:29.58TorhalI'm redoing how the list works anyway, so it'll be a nice big change.
17:30.02Ressyoh wow.
17:30.08RessyI'm wondering...
17:30.16TorhalMaybe not.
17:30.17TorhalBut I have a Legion_ListEntry branch :)
17:30.33RessyYou know how in Collectinator when you scroll over an item, and it has this nice popup?
17:30.43Ressywith the name, and the icon..
17:30.53TorhalI've had a ListEntry branch since June of 2015 and got sidetracked and didn't go back until recently. Looked at things and went "What the fuck was I actually doing when I lost track?"
17:31.08RessyIf for wardrobe, it could be item name, and the visual of the item, with the normal info below.
17:31.17TorhalThe tooltip thing?
17:31.28Ressyyeah
17:31.47TorhalI thought an appearance was multiple items?
17:32.08Ressyit could be yeah.
17:32.27TorhalOh, what the shit... I just picked up my phone to see if my Roomba was done and saw a notification that the Amazon shit that's supposed to arrive tomorrow is here.
17:32.38Ressybut if we're sorting by itemid since appearances don't have NAMES..
17:32.46TorhalThey don't?
17:32.50TorhalWhat's in that panel, then?
17:32.50Ressynope
17:33.17TorhalBRB: Emptying the Roomba bin and grabbing packages.
17:33.22Ressylol
17:33.35Ressyare they good?
17:33.38Ressyhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/x6ge1dytgnsb90t/Screenshot%202016-07-17%2013.33.13.png?dl=0
17:37.52TorhalRessy: Are what any good?
17:38.11Ressyroombas
17:38.16TorhalOh, so it shows the items?
17:38.24Ressyyeah.. the visual.
17:38.30TorhalYeah. Then again, I got the top-of-the-line one that does an entire floor.
17:38.47TorhalThe others only do a room.
17:38.50RessyOtherwise it shows something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ustabwhl2pxs1e/Screenshot%202016-07-17%2013.38.34.png?dl=0
17:39.17TorhalHuh?
17:39.18TorhalWhat the hell does that mean?
17:39.32TorhalSo there are three items that make you look the same?
17:39.49Ressyeach appearance has its own squre there.
17:40.00RessyThat 1st screenshot, theres only 1 item for the appearance.
17:40.05Ressy2nd screenshot, theres 2 items.
17:43.16TorhalSo this is completely different from what transmogs used to be?
17:43.54Ressybefore you'd transmog from an item.
17:44.03Ressynow you get an item, learn the appearance, and trash the item.
17:45.17TorhalI have no idea how the hell we'd do that since appearances have no name.
17:45.26TorhalExcept for "Show first item in the list"
17:45.44RessyThats why I'm thinking of showing items.
17:45.53Ressyshow items, show the visual in the tooltip..
17:45.59Ressylink everyitem to a visualid..
17:45.59TorhalThe visual is a model.
17:46.19RessyGet the visualid, and any others itemids with the same visualid are counted as 'found'
17:46.22Ressyor collected
17:46.47TorhalYeah, but you can't show a model in the tooltip.
17:46.56Ressyoh
17:47.17TorhalAnd I think that's why they are showing the models to begin with. Everyone would go "Uh, what the fuck is that item again?"
17:47.46Torhal:/
17:48.05Ressybut the information shown in the appearances tab is totally crappy.
17:48.13Ressynobody knows where to find anything based off what they give.
17:48.33TorhalI don't think we should use OUR frame for this.
17:48.40Ressymkay... ?
17:48.46Ressyhook into theirs?
17:48.48TorhalReplace their tooltip.
17:48.59Ressyoooh
17:49.02TorhalYeah. The appearance is right there.
17:49.11RessyWorks for me.
17:49.17TorhalThey can browse at will, we just coopt the tooltip and make it actually useful.
17:49.27Ressypeople will love that.
17:49.46TorhalThat also makes this extremely easy, because all the data is right there.
17:49.51Ressymkay..
17:50.16TorhalThe only clincher is how to handle our filters and the like.
17:50.33Ressy?
17:50.47TorhalWe'd have a useless panel.
17:50.51Ressyohh
17:50.58TorhalThe only thing it's useful if we go that route is the filter system.
17:51.04RessyLocation tab is useful.
17:51.19TorhalBut, again, what do we show there?
17:51.20RessyI know a lot of people who use that just to find anything near them.
17:51.50TorhalEverything would have to be on that panel or it'd just be a hacky UX nightmare.
17:51.55Ressyyeah...
17:52.47TorhalAnd that'll take some time. UI is horribad in WoW.
17:53.02Ressylol
17:53.16TorhalWell, UI in general is horribad if you want to do it right. But coding the UI in WoW...
17:53.29TorhalI just don't see how we can do this in our panel, though.
17:53.35Ressymkay
17:53.46TorhalJust due to the nature of the whole thing.
17:53.50Ressyyeah
17:53.51TorhalVery visual-oriented.
17:55.27Ressytrue
17:57.16TorhalOh, actually. That doens't make shit easier
17:57.24TorhalStill need to scan everything to build a DB because that only shows what YOU can unlock.
18:02.40Ressy:\
18:05.47TorhalThis is a fuckton of work.
18:06.28TorhalCan't do the waypoint thing and all the other functions with the tooltip being that way
18:06.46TorhalThe whole "Hit tab to cycle through items" things is pretty neat, though.
18:11.24TorhalYeah, I don't see this getting done any time soon unfortunately. Going to take literal days, possibly more.
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