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03:18.37 | TheRedbaron | ~pitchfork Gabe_G23 |
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13:01.56 | scott | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/06/plugwall_01.jpg |
13:02.04 | scott | how handy is that? |
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15:54.55 | gn00bie | ~shake |
15:54.55 | purl | ACTION shakes his booty all over town |
15:56.06 | ndim | scott: That looks like a nightmare for the person who needs to wire it. |
15:56.52 | ndim | scott: How many amps can you pull from one of those plugs? |
15:57.07 | scott | normally 16 |
15:57.33 | scott | 110v |
15:59.05 | ndim | Th the wall on the pic has about 1024 plugs... at 16 amps each, that means 16384 Amps, and at 110V, that is 1.8MW. |
15:59.29 | ndim | I want to see the aircon which can remove the heat from the room :-D |
16:00.06 | scott | heh |
16:00.55 | scott | i'm guessing those are all wired in paralell and only can handle 16amps |
16:01.33 | scott | most homes here are usually only 100-200amps in total :) |
16:02.59 | ndim | Assuming a large room of, say, 8x5 meters and 2.5meters high (100m^3 or 100kg of air)... |
16:03.55 | ndim | At 1,005 kJ/(kg·K) that means that... uhm... |
16:04.15 | ndim | (that is 1kJ/(kg*K)) |
16:04.47 | ndim | that means the room temperature increases by 18K every second? |
16:05.55 | ndim | Not bad. |
16:06.30 | ndim | Starting from room temperature, four seconds and you start boiling. |
16:06.45 | ndim | 20 seconds, and everything starts burning. |
16:07.06 | ndim | scott: Wiring that in parallel is cheating. |
16:07.33 | scott | heh |
16:07.51 | gn00bie | the most power dense system I worked on was 750 MW thermal in a size of a large room |
16:08.11 | gn00bie | cooling medium - H20 |
16:08.22 | gn00bie | cooling medium flow rate - 3200 litres per second |
16:08.22 | ndim | Sounds like a thermal power station |
16:08.27 | gn00bie | ndim: nuclear |
16:08.34 | ndim | Yupp. |
16:09.02 | ndim | I'm not sure you could burn any fossile fuel in that small volume while yielding 750MW. |
16:09.08 | gn00bie | inlet - water at 80C , outlet 14% steam at several hundred degrees higher |
16:09.25 | ndim | gn00bie: And now the plan is to power the GTO with that? |
16:09.32 | ndim | (foregoing the superchargers?) |
16:09.55 | gn00bie | ndim: no :) |
16:10.30 | gn00bie | I was responsible for a small part of a really small part of a really small part of the design |
16:11.05 | gn00bie | my job was to evaluate what would happen to a small part of the circulation system on the cold side in a seismic event |
16:11.21 | gn00bie | took me 3 months and I had to write a 70 page report in the end |
16:13.31 | ndim | Given how much it took for VW to create a drivetrain, wheels and tyres which could transfer just 740kW to the road, I would be interesting to see how you would go about doing that with much more times that. |
16:13.55 | gn00bie | the safety requirements in the nuclear industry are insane as compared to the auto industry |
16:13.56 | ndim | I guess I'd use a part of the power to blow a fan to press the vehicle to the ground, and use more than four wheels. |
16:13.59 | gn00bie | for obvious reasons |
16:14.31 | ndim | Yeah. The speed limit for most nuclear reactors is 0. |
16:14.44 | gn00bie | ndim: have to run now, the power plant discussion for another day |
16:14.51 | ndim | gn00bie: hf |
16:14.57 | gn00bie | :) |
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16:41.02 | ndim | ~coffee kierra |
16:42.15 | ndim | ~lart purl |
16:42.15 | purl | wallops ndim with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
16:42.23 | ndim | Whatever. |
16:42.32 | ndim | Supper time. |
16:42.35 | ndim | l8rz :) |
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22:15.56 | TheRedBaron | ~pinch Gabe_G23 |
22:16.41 | ndim | TheRedBaron: The only things purl can still do is the "~lart purl" classic. |
22:17.14 | TheRedBaron | ~pinch Gabe_G23 |
22:17.20 | TheRedBaron | cries |
22:17.27 | TheRedBaron | not my beloved pinch :( |
22:17.38 | ndim | ~lart Gabe_G23 |
22:17.38 | purl | stabs Gabe_G23 |
22:17.45 | ndim | ~lart TheRedBaron |
22:17.45 | purl | strangles TheRedBaron with a doohicky mouse cord |
22:17.48 | ndim | ~lart purl |
22:17.48 | purl | stabs ndim |
22:17.52 | ndim | ~lart ndim |
22:17.52 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in ndim's direction, hitting ndim and sending ndim flying into the closet |
22:18.11 | ndim | larting is the only thing purl still can do. |
22:18.22 | ndim | Apart from that purl is suffering from a serious case of amnesia. |
22:19.28 | TheRedBaron | or has become sentient? |
22:19.37 | TheRedBaron | eyes purl suspiciously |
22:20.24 | ndim | TheRedBaron: If purl has become sentient, it must have been together with becoming so introverted that no one outside purl will ever know. |
22:20.53 | TheRedBaron | thats an excellent question/point |
22:21.15 | TheRedBaron | would a machine - becoming sentient - replicate/imitate the actions and thoughts of their architect ? |
22:22.16 | TheRedBaron | thoughts/logic |
22:22.47 | ndim | Have you been smoking again? I'm feeling like you're being off on one of your "what kind of moo are you" like excursions into dreamland... |
22:23.22 | TheRedBaron | no - not smoking |
22:23.31 | TheRedBaron | just a beer |
22:23.34 | ndim | Valumzie: You need to more closely supervise TheRedBaron |
22:23.49 | ndim | He does not appear to take well to that kind of beer. |
22:24.30 | TheRedBaron | apparently so - but I thought it was a legitimate question. |
22:24.51 | ndim | It may be. |
22:25.09 | ndim | Just like fantasy role games may be legitimate. |
22:25.16 | ndim | Or fantasy books. |
22:25.26 | ndim | Or "lord of the rings" movies. |
22:25.54 | ndim | All of which make my brain switch off and turn over to interesting subject matters. |
22:26.35 | TheRedBaron | must have mis-read ndim |
22:26.48 | ndim | Like "is the melody going through my mind from Prokofiev or Saint-Saëns?" |
22:26.50 | TheRedBaron | you seemed the time to be intruigied by machines/AI becoming sentient ;) |
22:26.59 | TheRedBaron | ndim: strike that - you are right. |
22:27.04 | TheRedBaron | puts the beer away |
22:27.14 | TheRedBaron | I can't even form a proper sentence structure |
22:27.30 | ndim | I was speculating on what had happened to purl. |
22:27.49 | ndim | You were asking questions from a science fiction/fantasy convention. |
22:28.06 | TheRedBaron | how often has science fiction/fantasy become reality? |
22:28.09 | ndim | Can |
22:28.16 | TheRedBaron | Jules Verne seems applicable |
22:28.35 | ndim | Can't form a proper English sentence structure? Fear not, for ndim is German. He'll help you! |
22:28.47 | TheRedBaron | yay! |
22:29.59 | ndim | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i160TFODXLk |
22:38.24 | ndim | TBH... science fiction from the distant past (Jules Verne is a case in point) is stuff I might be able to enjoy. |
22:38.37 | TheRedBaron | HG wells is my favorite |
22:38.42 | ndim | Probably because it does not reach past the present into the future. |
22:38.52 | ndim | Verne is nice to read. |
22:39.04 | TheRedBaron | as far as current day Science Fiction - Eric Nylund is my favorite. |
22:39.14 | ndim | All the other SF stuff... not for me, thank you. |
22:39.37 | ndim | H2G2 is the exception proving the rule. |
22:42.21 | TheRedBaron | Game of Universe - Eric Nylund is an excellent excellent read |
22:42.32 | TheRedBaron | for storyline that is |
23:29.39 | TheRedBaron | MOO!!! |
23:32.19 | Valumzie | does blink |
23:32.26 | TheRedBaron | has the hiccups |
23:33.21 | Valumzie | 36///////////////5 |
23:33.28 | Valumzie | heard it :P |
23:33.30 | Valumzie | and hades too |
23:43.11 | scott | im hungry too Valumzie! |
23:43.27 | Valumzie | scott: lol! |
23:43.38 | Valumzie | come over, I still have some dinner ;) |
23:43.42 | scott | :D |
23:43.49 | scott | can i eat in the kitchen? |
23:44.12 | Valumzie | you'd have to stand while eating, but thats fine with me :P |
23:44.18 | scott | :D |
23:45.00 | Valumzie | :) |
23:45.15 | scott | TheRedBaron: ^ |
23:45.29 | TheRedBaron | !! |
23:46.02 | Valumzie | ahah |