IRC log for ##kierra on 20090617

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03:18.37TheRedbaron~pitchfork Gabe_G23
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13:01.56scotthttp://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/06/plugwall_01.jpg
13:02.04scotthow handy is that?
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15:54.55gn00bie~shake
15:54.55purlACTION shakes his booty all over town
15:56.06ndimscott: That looks like a nightmare for the person who needs to wire it.
15:56.52ndimscott: How many amps can you pull from one of those plugs?
15:57.07scottnormally 16
15:57.33scott110v
15:59.05ndimTh the wall on the pic has about 1024 plugs... at 16 amps each, that means 16384 Amps, and at 110V, that is 1.8MW.
15:59.29ndimI want to see the aircon which can remove the heat from the room :-D
16:00.06scottheh
16:00.55scotti'm guessing those are all wired in paralell and only can handle 16amps
16:01.33scottmost homes here are usually only 100-200amps in total :)
16:02.59ndimAssuming a large room of, say, 8x5 meters and 2.5meters high (100m^3 or 100kg of air)...
16:03.55ndimAt 1,005 kJ/(kg·K) that means that... uhm...
16:04.15ndim(that is 1kJ/(kg*K))
16:04.47ndimthat means the room temperature increases by 18K every second?
16:05.55ndimNot bad.
16:06.30ndimStarting from room temperature, four seconds and you start boiling.
16:06.45ndim20 seconds, and everything starts burning.
16:07.06ndimscott: Wiring that in parallel is cheating.
16:07.33scottheh
16:07.51gn00biethe most power dense system I worked on was 750 MW thermal in a size of a large room
16:08.11gn00biecooling medium - H20
16:08.22gn00biecooling medium flow rate - 3200 litres per second
16:08.22ndimSounds like a thermal power station
16:08.27gn00biendim: nuclear
16:08.34ndimYupp.
16:09.02ndimI'm not sure you could burn any fossile fuel in that small volume while yielding 750MW.
16:09.08gn00bieinlet - water at 80C , outlet 14% steam at several hundred degrees higher
16:09.25ndimgn00bie: And now the plan is to power the GTO with that?
16:09.32ndim(foregoing the superchargers?)
16:09.55gn00biendim: no :)
16:10.30gn00bieI was responsible for a small part of a really small part of a really small part of the design
16:11.05gn00biemy job was to evaluate what would happen to a small part of the circulation system on the cold side in a seismic event
16:11.21gn00bietook me 3 months and I had to write a 70 page report in the end
16:13.31ndimGiven how much it took for VW to create a drivetrain, wheels and tyres which could transfer just 740kW to the road, I would be interesting to see how you would go about doing that with much more times that.
16:13.55gn00biethe safety requirements in the nuclear industry are insane as compared to the auto industry
16:13.56ndimI guess I'd use a part of the power to blow a fan to press the vehicle to the ground, and use more than four wheels.
16:13.59gn00biefor obvious reasons
16:14.31ndimYeah. The speed limit for most nuclear reactors is 0.
16:14.44gn00biendim: have to run now, the power plant discussion for another day
16:14.51ndimgn00bie: hf
16:14.57gn00bie:)
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16:41.02ndim~coffee kierra
16:42.15ndim~lart purl
16:42.15purlwallops ndim with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long
16:42.23ndimWhatever.
16:42.32ndimSupper time.
16:42.35ndiml8rz :)
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17:45.46scotttrb ping?
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22:15.56TheRedBaron~pinch Gabe_G23
22:16.41ndimTheRedBaron: The only things purl can still do is the "~lart purl" classic.
22:17.14TheRedBaron~pinch Gabe_G23
22:17.20TheRedBaroncries
22:17.27TheRedBaronnot my beloved pinch :(
22:17.38ndim~lart Gabe_G23
22:17.38purlstabs Gabe_G23
22:17.45ndim~lart TheRedBaron
22:17.45purlstrangles TheRedBaron with a doohicky mouse cord
22:17.48ndim~lart purl
22:17.48purlstabs ndim
22:17.52ndim~lart ndim
22:17.52purltakes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in ndim's direction, hitting ndim and sending ndim flying into the closet
22:18.11ndimlarting is the only thing purl still can do.
22:18.22ndimApart from that purl is suffering from a serious case of amnesia.
22:19.28TheRedBaronor has become sentient?
22:19.37TheRedBaroneyes purl suspiciously
22:20.24ndimTheRedBaron: If purl has become sentient, it must have been together with becoming so introverted that no one outside purl will ever know.
22:20.53TheRedBaronthats an excellent question/point
22:21.15TheRedBaronwould a machine - becoming sentient - replicate/imitate the actions and thoughts of their architect ?
22:22.16TheRedBaronthoughts/logic
22:22.47ndimHave you been smoking again? I'm feeling like you're being off on one of your "what kind of moo are you" like excursions into dreamland...
22:23.22TheRedBaronno - not smoking
22:23.31TheRedBaronjust a beer
22:23.34ndimValumzie: You need to more closely supervise TheRedBaron
22:23.49ndimHe does not appear to take well to that kind of beer.
22:24.30TheRedBaronapparently so - but I thought it was a legitimate question.
22:24.51ndimIt may be.
22:25.09ndimJust like fantasy role games may be legitimate.
22:25.16ndimOr fantasy books.
22:25.26ndimOr "lord of the rings" movies.
22:25.54ndimAll of which make my brain switch off and turn over to interesting subject matters.
22:26.35TheRedBaronmust have mis-read ndim
22:26.48ndimLike "is the melody going through my mind from Prokofiev or Saint-Saëns?"
22:26.50TheRedBaronyou seemed the time to be intruigied by machines/AI becoming sentient ;)
22:26.59TheRedBaronndim: strike that - you are right.
22:27.04TheRedBaronputs the beer away
22:27.14TheRedBaronI can't even form a proper sentence structure
22:27.30ndimI was speculating on what had happened to purl.
22:27.49ndimYou were asking questions from a science fiction/fantasy convention.
22:28.06TheRedBaronhow often has science fiction/fantasy become reality?
22:28.09ndimCan
22:28.16TheRedBaronJules Verne seems applicable
22:28.35ndimCan't form a proper English sentence structure? Fear not, for ndim is German. He'll help you!
22:28.47TheRedBaronyay!
22:29.59ndimhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i160TFODXLk
22:38.24ndimTBH... science fiction from the distant past (Jules Verne is a case in point) is stuff I might be able to enjoy.
22:38.37TheRedBaronHG wells is my favorite
22:38.42ndimProbably because it does not reach past the present into the future.
22:38.52ndimVerne is nice to read.
22:39.04TheRedBaronas far as current day Science Fiction - Eric Nylund is my favorite.
22:39.14ndimAll the other SF stuff... not for me, thank you.
22:39.37ndimH2G2 is the exception proving the rule.
22:42.21TheRedBaronGame of Universe - Eric Nylund is an excellent excellent read
22:42.32TheRedBaronfor storyline that is
23:29.39TheRedBaronMOO!!!
23:32.19Valumziedoes blink
23:32.26TheRedBaronhas the hiccups
23:33.21Valumzie36///////////////5
23:33.28Valumzieheard it :P
23:33.30Valumzieand hades too
23:43.11scottim hungry too Valumzie!
23:43.27Valumziescott: lol!
23:43.38Valumziecome over, I still have some dinner ;)
23:43.42scott:D
23:43.49scottcan i eat in the kitchen?
23:44.12Valumzieyou'd have to stand while eating, but thats fine with me :P
23:44.18scott:D
23:45.00Valumzie:)
23:45.15scottTheRedBaron: ^
23:45.29TheRedBaron!!
23:46.02Valumzieahah

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