IRC log for ##kierra on 20081129

00:33.47jh`hi ep
00:34.08jh`you dont much chat in here do you?
00:34.21jh`or is it just when im around?:)
00:36.56PimpiFlash: ibunny iirc lives in duisburg/germany, so i guess no
00:38.11Pimpidon't remember her channel
00:39.54jh`hi pimpi man
00:40.03jh`hows your farm?
00:40.10Pimpiyo jh`
00:40.14Pimpisleeping i hope
00:40.16Pimpi;)
00:40.41jh`how many animals you have?
00:40.55Pimpiarounf 120
00:41.18Pimpis/arounf/around/
00:41.33jh`chicken, cows what else
00:41.46Pimpicows
00:42.02jh`just cows?
00:42.23Pimpia few ducks, cats
00:42.29jh`lol
00:42.30Pimpirats mice
00:43.03Pimpia goat
00:43.04jh`well, where do you get the income from:)
00:43.11jh`cows?
00:43.11Pimpicows
00:44.45jh`nice, so 120 cows can make a lot of doug:P
00:46.50jh`or some atleast
00:48.29jh`:)
00:50.16jh`i live in IT world
00:50.37jh`a world without mistakes
00:50.52jh`meaning i cant make any mistakes
00:51.12jh`very precise
00:52.03jh`they should hire a machine for this job
00:52.20jh`my brainz are wearing out
00:52.47Pimpiyou can't make mistakes?
00:53.20jh`if i make one mistake in the code ...its fcked
00:54.16jh`im admin of skiing centers webstore, i created it
00:54.31jh`and i answer from it
00:54.47jh`so i cant make one mistake:)
00:54.59Pimpiic
00:55.52jh`well, ppl make mistakes, little ones
00:56.02jh`even if they dont realise it
00:57.08Pimpisometimes they even make big mistakes...
00:57.17jh`yes
00:57.39jh`but i'd like to stay as mistake free as i can:)
00:57.49Pimpii need sleep
00:57.58Pimpiheading to bed
00:58.02Pimpinite
00:58.05jh`nite
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07:27.13gn00bie_man, so wireless connections drop
07:29.42gn00bieespecially with this crappy versalink that refuses to run WEP
07:29.52gn00bierun it properly that is
07:30.12gn00bieand try explaining to friends that they should really be using WPA anyway
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09:04.07jh`redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum
09:04.12jh`redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum
09:04.17jh`redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum
09:04.56jh`if you have seen 'the shining' you know that
09:05.03jh`or read
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13:12.52catayslaps gn00bie
14:22.35kierrawhoa, SkinTex is back from mishaps and mayhem!
14:22.45kierraare you in 1 piece?
14:23.36kierraFlash, ibunny?
14:35.51kierrahugs Manu
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14:36.26kierraoops
14:39.58ndimMoo!
14:40.09kierra~tea ndim
14:40.10purlACTION realizes it's time for high tea and gets busy in the kitchen.  He brings out tea, crumpets, scones and an assortment of delectable goodies and serves them properly to ndim and others
14:41.26ndim~coffee kierra
14:41.27purlACTION steals some of Flash's special coffee and gives it to kierra on a silver platter.
14:42.51ndimone hour until sunset...
14:43.06kierrawow, i gtg cook bkft
14:43.10ndimgoes outside to sweep the gravel from the sidewalk
14:43.13ndimhaha
14:43.24ndimHad a nice thanksgiving?
14:43.54kierrayes we did
14:45.43ndimAnd no family members trampled to death on friday's shopping? Great! :)
14:47.06kierraonly bita & grandpa went shopping
14:47.19kierraok, gtg cook bkft....i'm late
14:49.07ndimhf
14:49.12ndimgoes sweep
14:54.08cataysweep dreams :P
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15:22.29ashvalahey
15:22.44ashvala~purl
15:22.44purlWe are the purl, prepare to be assimilated
15:22.55ashvalai thought that was borg?
15:23.23ashvalaperhaps you can add, Resistance is futile
15:23.29ashvalahey gn00bie
15:23.35ashvalareached pittsburgh?
15:26.58catayoh no, it's the little one :P
15:27.04catayhi ashvala :)
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15:33.22ndimhttp://xkcd.com/227/
15:33.56ashvalan1 ndim!
15:35.08ndimAnd regarding your "Resistance is futile": http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/customavatars/avatar27191_1.gif
15:35.21Manuhugs kierra
15:35.25ndimashvala: :-D
15:35.36ashvalafacepalms!
15:35.43ashvalanice one ndim!
15:35.46ashvalaawesome
15:36.20ndimIt's so nice when they are so young... that they cannot possibly have seen all the ancient jokes floating around the net for years :)
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15:38.39Manu:)
16:04.46gn00biehey ashvala
16:05.43gn00bie~ndim++
16:05.55gn00biefor the resistance is futile avtar :)
16:06.46gn00biekierra: is a certain (p)ant(h)eater in the house?
16:07.50ndimWow. Internet now illegal in Italy!
16:08.05ndimOr rather, has been illegal since 1948.
16:08.17Manundim: really? :)
16:08.29Manuold laws... hehe
16:08.30gn00biepulls an mviron and sends Manu to Italy
16:08.33gn00biephew, done
16:08.41ndimIt just took 60 years to find a judge to find it out: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/26/italian_law_kills_blog/
16:08.49Manucome va gn00bie ? ;?
16:09.11gn00biecome stai I think in italian ;)
16:09.19gn00biebene, molto bene
16:09.25Manugn00bie: nope
16:09.35gn00biewe had sent Manu to a place that has no internet
16:09.37ManuI said: come va,no come stai
16:09.48gn00biewhat does come va mean?
16:10.13Manusends gn00bie to look for it
16:10.37ndimMeh.
16:10.45ndimI had already typed the solution.
16:11.08gn00bieslaps catay
16:13.03Manugn00bie: how's it going
16:13.43gn00bieManu: down the drain
16:14.05Manugn00bie: heh.. it's what "come va" means ;)
16:14.52gn00bieManu: ah ok, grazie I think
16:19.57ashvala<PROTECTED>
16:20.35ashvalagn00bie: why are you slapping ol' catay?
16:20.40catay:P
16:20.48cataycause he loves me :PP
16:20.48gn00bieashvala: because he is old
16:20.50gn00bie:P
16:20.55ashvala:P
16:21.05gn00bieashvala: do you want to get slapped too?
16:21.16ashvalagn00bie: nope & you know it
16:21.51catayhehe
16:21.53gn00bieashvala: but I had to ask
16:22.02gn00bienow that I know the  answer
16:22.05ashvalagn00bie: why?
16:22.08gn00bieslaps ashvala
16:22.19ashvalareturns fire
16:22.19gn00biecatay: he he :)
16:22.27Manu~roll ashvala
16:22.28purlACTION stuffs ashvala in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain
16:22.35gn00bie~lart ashvala
16:22.35purlresizes ashvala's terminal to 40x24
16:22.38gn00bie~slap ashvala
16:22.39purlACTION slaps ashvala, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
16:22.41ashvala~roll manu
16:22.41purlACTION stuffs manu in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain
16:22.44gn00bie~stab ashvala
16:22.45purlACTION runs at ashvala with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
16:22.50ashvala~kill gn00bie
16:22.51purlACTION shoots a charged anti-positrino gun at gn00bie
16:23.01gn00bietapes ashvala to the floor and drools all over him
16:23.11gn00bietakes ashvala out with the garbage
16:23.18ashvalawill open fire
16:23.20gn00bieslaps ashvala again
16:23.30ashvalahttp://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php
16:23.31gn00bieashvala: fire freui
16:23.41ashvalawill slap gn00bie
16:24.08gn00bie:)
16:24.20ashvalai love slapping
16:24.24gn00biethat will be an important step in your gn00bification
16:24.36gn00biebecause let us face it, you have are not a worthy replacement yet
16:24.36ashvaladarn
16:24.39ashvalai quit
16:24.55gn00biequitter :P
16:25.24ashvalawill pack gn00bie in a elaborate package and send him to Italy
16:25.57gn00bieman
16:26.11gn00bieI managed to get him to quit!
16:27.01catay~gn00bie++
16:27.52gn00bie:P
16:28.01gn00bieI think I might get slapped by kierra for that
16:31.36cataymaybe :)
16:36.20gn00bieok then
16:36.29gn00bietime to start back for home
16:36.33gn00biesee you from SYR tonight
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17:13.16kierradessy!!!
17:13.48Dessyhey!
17:13.50Dessy:)
17:15.19kierralong time no see you here
17:15.35*** topic/##kierra by kierra -> Welcome: || "It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." || "Love, in response to goodness, is reward."|| Christmas is coming!
17:47.13catayheh
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19:11.59Valumziekierra: how bored are you today ? :D
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20:42.32kierrano
20:43.36kierraValumzie: why?
20:48.59Manuhola kierra :)
20:51.10Valumziejust wondering
20:51.21ValumzieI have plenty of reading for you if you are bored :)
20:56.41Manuhi Valumzie :)
21:10.01kierrasure, send it to my gmail
21:11.15kierrahola Manu :)
21:11.27kierrabtw Valumzie
21:34.46catayi'm bored , got something to do for me ? :P
21:40.24kierracome weed my garden
21:44.24kierracatay, have you asked your mom if there is anything she needs help with????
21:45.50cataykierra: :P
21:46.01catayis suddenly not bored anymore
21:46.04kierra\:D
21:46.05catay:D
21:47.24ndim. o O ( busy making up excuses )
21:47.30kierra'bored' is a dirty word at my house
21:48.43ndimThat was one of the first things they taught us in the army.
21:49.11ndimYou're always busy.
21:49.15ndimEven if you are busy sleeping.
21:49.59ndimAnd you'd better know what you're busy with at all times in case someone asks you.
21:50.41kierraI'm busy
21:50.47kierra~lart orange
21:50.47purldumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on orange
21:50.55kierra~rubberband Manu
21:50.55purlACTION sneaks around the house, yard and town, collecting every rubberband there is, and then camps at a prime location, waiting for Manu to walk by so he can pelt Manu with thousands and thousands of rubberbands
21:50.59ndimOh my.
21:51.01CBGIs there a nurse about? :)
21:51.02kierra~pinch Winny
21:51.03purlACTION scuttles after Winny, pinches him, and then scuttles away
21:51.10kierrayes?
21:51.16kierraFlorence here
21:51.22CBG:D
21:52.03CBGMy house mate woke with a terribly painful ankle yesterday, it was sore to walk on. It's worse today and has swollen pretty badly. He has no idea what the problem is just that it hurts a lot! Any ideas? :(
21:52.34ndimNHS
21:52.39kierraif your foot hurts....cut it off
21:52.47kierraNHS?
21:52.58kierrais the pain at the side?
21:53.18kierraand he's done nothing different?
21:53.29kierraout of the usual?
21:53.37CBGAt one point he made a remark about sitting down feeling like stepping on a drawing pin but standing up felt like someone using a nail-gun on his foot. I suggested I could use a nail-gun on his other foot. Does that sound like a good idea?
21:53.57CBGNot sure where the pain is but ht doesn't think he's don't anything odd - it just hurt when he woke up yesterday.
21:54.05ndimCBG: Nailguns are not approved for medical applications.
21:54.27CBGAww :( I was looking forward to that :P
21:54.36kierrais swelling on outer aspect of ankle
21:54.41kierrainner?
21:54.45kierraall around?
21:54.56CBGI'll ask :)
21:55.34kierrahasn't gone jogging, running, etc
21:55.44CBGNope.
21:56.10CBGHe says the pain seems to be on the join itself.
21:56.13ndimCBG: You didn't use a nail gun on him while he was sleeping?
21:56.24kierrawonders about gout?
21:56.42kierraif its that painful....in the absence of any exercise/injury
21:56.53kierrakind of young for it but not unheard of
21:56.55CBGHe did pose the notion that someone had entered his room with a hammer that night... but it wasn't me!
21:57.08kierraand gout is very painful
21:57.18kierraand usually at the ankles
21:57.19CBGswelling is all around
21:57.42ndimbursitis?
21:57.57kierradoes it hurt to touch?
21:58.16kierraany redness?
21:58.24kierrafeel warm to touch
21:59.12CBGhurts to walk on., hurts to press but not to touch.
22:01.01kierraand he is healthy otherwise...?
22:01.04CBGand it did look a little red earlier
22:01.12CBGYeah, pretty much.
22:01.47CBGHe's not going to win the "Healthiest Man Ever" award, but he's not sick every other day.
22:03.25CBGDoes it sound like gout or should I not worry him with that suggestion?
22:04.23kierrawell, in the absence of any trauma/abuse to area....I would guess gout or some other inflamatory reaction (be it arthritic or inflamation of joint, tendons etc
22:05.46Manu~pinch kierra
22:05.46purlACTION scuttles after kierra, pinches him, and then scuttles away
22:06.06CBGkierra: and the best thing for him to do now (he hates doctors though)?
22:06.38CBGkierra: oh, he says both his parents have arthritis. Is that sort of thing hereditary at all?
22:07.31kierradoes he love pain better than he hates drs?
22:07.46kierra~poke Manu
22:07.46purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Manu, pokes Manu repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
22:08.05CBGhehe. He might be willing to put up with the pain for a few more days before seeing a doctor...
22:08.15kierraI wouldnt say arthritis is hereditary....depends on the type
22:08.29Manu~laugh kierra
22:08.30purlACTION laughs hysterically at kierra...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ...
22:08.31kierraRA in young ppl.....auto immune disease
22:08.43kierra~lart Manu
22:08.43purlgives Manu a good seeing to
22:08.46Manukierra: :-p
22:08.49kierra:P
22:09.04kierraRA=rheumatoid arthritis
22:09.10ndimI'd guess the arthritic is not going away within those few days.
22:09.41ndimAnd auto immune diseases are increasingly common, even among people where you wouldn't traditionally expect it.
22:09.43Manu~taunt kierra
22:09.44purlACTION taunts kierra a second time
22:10.22kierra:P MANU
22:10.27CBGNow I'm confused.. :(
22:10.32kierrawhy?
22:10.50CBGRA + auto immune disease etc..? :o
22:11.13ndimCBG:  <@kierra> RA=rheumatoid arthritis
22:11.39CBGYep, saw that. Is that what it sounds like he might have? Is it sometimes hereditary?
22:11.45ndimCBG: auto immune disease -> The body's immune system gets confused and attacks a body part.
22:11.47CBGThe doctor's surgery is closed tomorrow, but I'll try to persuade him to go Monday.
22:11.49ManuCBG: don't worry
22:11.53kierrawell, arthritis is a degenerative joint disease....you see as ppl age
22:11.54CBGah, ok.
22:12.14kierrarheum arth:  you can see in the young
22:12.19kierraauto immune
22:12.51kierrayou can also see  traumatic arthritis....in a joint after injury
22:13.15kierraNessie has traum arthritis in her left wrist from a really bad break years ago
22:14.16catayi have the same
22:14.25CBGI see
22:14.29catayand i can feel it when the weather changes
22:14.34cataywhen it gets cold
22:14.37CBGHe';s not injured that ankle before. Would RA come on suddenly as he experienced?
22:15.16ManuCBG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheumatoid_arthritis
22:15.33ndimauto immune stuff just happens at some point in time.
22:15.49CBGthanks folks
22:16.33kierramy guess would be gout
22:16.34ndim(I am talking from experience, but not with RA)
22:17.11CBGVery useful info, I'll keep poking his ankle until he agrees to visit the doc on Monday. I'll even go with him if I have to, sounds serious.
22:17.26CBGhugs kierra, ndim, Manu & catay
22:17.45kierrayw
22:17.57kierrai'll be interested to know the outcome
22:18.20ndim/rename ##kierra ##med-diag
22:18.33CBGHe doesn't seem happy about it possibly being gout. But he's even less happy about having to visit the doc..!
22:19.03ndimA guy I went to elementary school with was diagnosed with gout when he was about 10.
22:19.11CBGouch!
22:23.39Manundim: gout is not so bad and usually it's due bad habits in the food ;)
22:30.00ndimManu: Possibly. I have some vague memories about meat being bad, but no personal experience with gout.
22:31.30kierragout is high uric acid levels....deposited in joints as crystals.....very painful
22:31.37kierrauric acid high in meats
22:32.33CBGIs this something to do with diet in general or could one meal cause it to come on so suddenly?
22:34.52ndimdiet in general
22:35.03kierrai think a combination of high meat consumption(purines), low liquid intake (water),
22:35.05ndimI'd guess.
22:35.12kierranot just one meal
22:35.28kierrapredisposition to not handling high levels of purines
22:35.33kierranot everyone gets gout
22:35.43CBGhmm, might be possible
22:35.43kierrasome may be more inclined
22:35.49ndimtakes this as an incentive to drink another bottle of water
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22:36.01CBGoops.
22:36.32kierragoes afk
22:36.40kierrachores :(
22:36.56cataythat's good for you :)
22:37.02ndimlol
22:37.36kierra:P
22:40.26kierracatay, I am making a list for when you come back
22:40.57kierraRb2's friend zack weeded my garden on friday
22:41.15kierrai gave hiya a haircut a couple hours aog
22:41.17kierraago*
22:41.56cataycan we see a picture from poor hiya now ? :p
22:42.18kierranessie took a pic while i was doing it
22:42.24kierrawill put it on fb later
22:42.33kierrahe likes it!
22:42.39kierrahe is sweet
22:42.47catayhehe
22:45.27CBGkierra: he is insisting he can;t have gout as if he did he would be in complete agony all the time and it would be excruciatingly painful to touch even slightly. :/
22:46.10ndimCBG: how old is the patient?
22:46.23kierratrue
22:46.23ndim20? 40? 60?
22:46.50CBG19.
22:46.59kierrahe said it was like being hit with a nail gun.....sounds excruciating to me
22:47.30ndimHmm. He might have dreamt vividly and hit the joint on some hard part of the bed.
22:47.39CBGPersonally, I thought he WAS in a lot of pain. He hasn't talked about anything else, can barely walk at all and text me at work today to bring Ibuprofen home.
22:47.56kierrafelt like someone using a nail-gun on his foot.
22:48.06kierrathat is a quote from earlier
22:48.38ndimA dislocated piece of bone in the joint?
22:48.58CBGkierra: yep, and I didn't make that up.
22:49.03kierrabut he is right: gout is extremely painful, causes swelling, painful to the touch and skin is reddened and warm
22:49.37kierrabone spur?....but they dont cause swelling
22:49.58ndimHmm... ok.
22:50.08ndimSo RA is still on the table.
22:50.14ndimOr on the table again
22:50.16ndim?
22:50.33kierrais going to eat some cookies and coffee
22:50.35kierra:)
22:50.46CBGHe wouldn't need to dream to do that. A couple weeks ago I woke from dreamless sleep after violently kicking the wall such that my toe nail suck a mm or two into my toe. Boy did that sting for an hour... I was just lying there thinking "Please stop hurting now..."
22:51.01CBGsuck = sunk.
22:51.28ndimOK... so we have a potential source of trauma.
22:53.27catayi suggest following kierra's first advice
22:54.53ndimsuggests following my first advice
22:55.07ndimaka NHS
22:55.55CBGI've told him everything, he seems adamant it's not gout but that's his problem.
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23:28.45ndimG'day Grumpfy!
23:42.14epcatay you still up?
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23:45.28catayep: yes
23:45.51cataypats Grumpfy
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23:55.04ndim~lart cvs
23:55.04purlruns at cvs with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut

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