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11:13.19 | RudyValencia | I feel very bad now. |
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11:31.17 | RudyValencia | ... |
11:32.19 | whodaman- | ? |
11:32.35 | RudyValencia | I was transplanting my motherboard in my main computer to another case, I didn't know the case was bad, and it caused the motherboard to fail. |
11:32.47 | whodaman- | feels good :> |
11:32.48 | RudyValencia | I only have $50 and need both a motherboard and a case. |
11:32.49 | whodaman- | sucks |
11:33.03 | whodaman- | go work :P |
11:33.06 | RudyValencia | What? |
11:33.13 | RudyValencia | I already have a job. |
11:33.40 | JonathanD | go work mor |
11:33.57 | RudyValencia | I can't work more;. |
11:34.08 | whodaman- | get a better paying job |
11:34.11 | JonathanD | yes you can. |
11:34.19 | RudyValencia | I've tried to get a better job |
11:34.26 | JonathanD | try mor |
11:34.37 | RudyValencia | I have no qualifications or experience for anything beyond entry-level work. |
11:34.50 | RudyValencia | isn't a rocket scientist |
11:35.19 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: then don't get a motherboard and case. |
11:35.32 | RudyValencia | What? |
11:35.44 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: then don't get a motherboard and case. |
11:35.46 | whodaman- | lol |
11:35.46 | RudyValencia | I can't live without a working computer. |
11:35.54 | whodaman- | then work more |
11:36.00 | JonathanD | either fix the problem, or live within the constraints imposed by it. |
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11:36.15 | RudyValencia | I'm using a Celeron/500 with 256MB RAM and it's already thrashing the hard disk swapping. |
11:36.15 | JonathanD | saying "can't" to all possible solutions does neither. |
11:36.32 | JonathanD | and yes, you can live without a working computer. Otherwise the human race would have died off a long time ago ;) |
11:36.43 | RudyValencia | :/ |
11:36.56 | RudyValencia | It's all I have. |
11:37.11 | RudyValencia | I am awkward at social situations |
11:37.17 | whodaman- | shouldn't be |
11:37.31 | RudyValencia | I'm always afraid I'll commit a faux pas and say or do something wrong. |
11:37.43 | RudyValencia | I've done it before. |
11:38.00 | RudyValencia | I have been kicked out of places due to my social problems. |
11:38.44 | whodaman- | no offense, but you sound a lot like a_met at the moment :p |
11:38.54 | RudyValencia | none taken |
11:39.01 | RudyValencia | :'( |
11:39.08 | RudyValencia | I feel bad though. |
11:39.53 | RudyValencia | Because I screwed up my best computer :( |
11:39.59 | RudyValencia | It's all my fault. |
11:40.10 | whodaman- | stuff like that happens |
11:40.25 | RudyValencia | But I haven't a way to fix it. |
11:40.52 | whodaman- | then make it your goal to find a way. |
11:41.10 | RudyValencia | like I said I only have $50 and I doubt anyone has a socket 478 motherboard and case for that much |
11:41.26 | whodaman- | save the money..earn some more |
11:41.26 | RudyValencia | (rather, for that low) |
11:41.45 | RudyValencia | I have important stuff due soon |
11:41.47 | whodaman- | You don't have to solve the problem instantly? |
11:41.50 | RudyValencia | and I can't be using this computer. |
11:42.00 | RudyValencia | because it's thrashing and slow |
11:42.16 | whodaman- | borrow the cash |
11:42.30 | RudyValencia | I haven't anyone to borrow from |
11:42.36 | RudyValencia | I can't take out a loan either |
11:42.42 | RudyValencia | (no credit) |
11:43.11 | whodaman- | Do some quick jobs |
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11:44.27 | RudyValencia | ? |
11:44.41 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: this defeatist attitude gets you knowwhere. |
11:46.11 | JonathanD | you need to do SOMETHING if you want more money. |
11:46.12 | RudyValencia | Do you know where I can get a socket 478 motherboard and case for $50? |
11:46.16 | JonathanD | no. |
11:46.35 | JonathanD | go rake some leaves and get another $50 ;) |
11:46.39 | RudyValencia | I'm using a computer that's thrashing it's hard disk |
11:47.29 | whodaman- | We've realized. |
11:47.33 | whodaman- | This isn't getting you anywhere. |
11:47.54 | whodaman- | Go apply somewhere and make it your project/goal to get the required cash. |
11:48.47 | RudyValencia | I'm off from my regular job today |
11:48.55 | JonathanD | so go do some work :p |
11:49.24 | RudyValencia | Where? |
11:49.42 | JonathanD | I'll give you $30 to clean up my back yard |
11:50.04 | RudyValencia | Where do you live? |
11:50.13 | RudyValencia | You don't live in Greeley, CO do you? |
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11:50.28 | JonathanD | no. |
11:50.35 | JonathanD | but I bet you someone else with a messy back yard does. |
11:50.37 | JonathanD | :P |
11:51.11 | RudyValencia | I've got things to do and I can't do them without a working computer |
11:51.26 | RudyValencia | read: not thrashing its hard drive trying to keep running |
11:54.37 | whodaman- | sigh |
11:55.12 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: we've tried to help you. |
11:55.43 | RudyValencia | I'm very depressed. |
11:56.07 | RudyValencia | You don't understand how I feel to not have a computer that works. |
11:56.09 | sleeptyper | me too |
11:56.21 | sleeptyper | commits suicide |
11:56.48 | RudyValencia | JonathanD: Imagine that your computer at home bit the dust and you only had $50 to replace it. |
11:56.53 | RudyValencia | What would you do? |
11:57.06 | JonathanD | I would go get more money. |
11:57.09 | whodaman- | buy a new one |
11:57.11 | whodaman- | :P |
11:57.18 | RudyValencia | With $50? |
11:57.19 | JonathanD | and then buy a new one. |
11:57.24 | whodaman- | NO |
11:57.27 | whodaman- | Don't you understand? |
11:57.30 | sleeptyper | 2nd hand from newsgroups ? |
11:57.30 | RudyValencia | $50 doesn't buy even a 486. |
11:57.32 | JonathanD | clearly not. |
11:57.41 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: post on freecycle asking for one. |
11:57.48 | whodaman- | You. Need. To. Eearn. Money. To. Buy. A. Computer |
11:57.55 | RudyValencia | I already have a job |
11:58.08 | whodaman- | you wouldn't believe how many people are looking for somebody to do a quick job for $$30 |
11:58.13 | whodaman- | points to JonathanD |
11:58.23 | RudyValencia | I wouldn't find one today |
11:58.30 | whodaman- | RudyValencia: Why are you arguing with us if we are trying to help you? |
11:58.45 | whodaman- | Stop being to overly negative and check your local newspaper if you can find somehing |
11:59.05 | RudyValencia | I have checked the newspaper |
11:59.17 | whodaman- | then go look around |
11:59.18 | RudyValencia | Most of the stuff there I don't meet the qualifications for. |
11:59.22 | whodaman- | C'mon, you're not stupid |
11:59.28 | RudyValencia | I know I'm not stupid |
11:59.35 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: you don't know how to rake? |
11:59.44 | RudyValencia | Nobody needs raking. |
11:59.48 | JonathanD | or mow a lawn? |
11:59.49 | RudyValencia | It's spring ffs. |
11:59.50 | whodaman- | ...yes they d |
11:59.51 | whodaman- | oo |
12:00.00 | whodaman- | or carry out some newspapers or flyers |
12:00.02 | RudyValencia | I don't have a mower. |
12:00.02 | JonathanD | or paint something? |
12:00.10 | whodaman- | They do |
12:00.11 | RudyValencia | I'm being honest here. |
12:00.20 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: my grandmother has a guy come once a week to mow her lawn, using her own mower. |
12:00.28 | JonathanD | they probably have the rake, too. |
12:00.35 | RudyValencia | How do you expect me to find someone who needs mowing, raking, etc.? |
12:00.45 | whodaman- | look around |
12:00.45 | RudyValencia | I need my computer back today :( |
12:00.45 | JonathanD | if I hired you to clean my yard, I Would not expect you to bring your own equipment. |
12:01.11 | RudyValencia | I have to fill out a form today and the only way I can do it is using my good computer. |
12:01.13 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: you probably will not find someone who needs something done here. Go hang a flyer. |
12:01.20 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: or going to the library. |
12:01.27 | whodaman- | yeah |
12:01.28 | RudyValencia | This computer is not capable of filling out the form. |
12:01.35 | JonathanD | but the one at the library is. |
12:01.36 | whodaman- | go to the library |
12:01.37 | whodaman- | friends |
12:01.39 | whodaman- | school |
12:01.41 | whodaman- | whereever |
12:01.43 | JonathanD | prison |
12:01.57 | whodaman- | internet café |
12:02.02 | RudyValencia | I have to submit a file from my computer with the form. |
12:02.17 | JonathanD | surrenders. |
12:02.23 | RudyValencia | I can't access it with this computer because it doesn't support 48-Bit LBS |
12:02.25 | RudyValencia | *LBA |
12:02.26 | whodaman- | do you have the form? |
12:02.28 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: go buy a 486 with your $50 |
12:02.30 | RudyValencia | It's online. |
12:02.40 | JonathanD | I have given up. |
12:02.49 | whodaman- | then go to the apple store |
12:02.51 | whodaman- | or some other store |
12:02.52 | JonathanD | theres a zillion ways you can get more money. |
12:02.53 | whodaman- | Radioshack |
12:02.55 | whodaman- | I haz pizza |
12:02.59 | whodaman- | or a computer |
12:03.03 | JonathanD | go find one. |
12:03.31 | RudyValencia | And how do you expect me to get at my files if they're on a hard drive none of my equipment is capable of accessing/ |
12:03.32 | JonathanD | or post something on freecycle, that you need one |
12:04.03 | RudyValencia | I doubt I'd get a decent computer on Freecycle. |
12:04.08 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: you could start my not believing everything is impossible. |
12:04.12 | RudyValencia | I have tried using Freecycle to get a computer before. |
12:04.18 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: I have gotten 6 from freecycle |
12:04.25 | RudyValencia | But they're old ones. |
12:04.53 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: my sisters PC, which I got on freecycle, is a 1.5Ghz laptop |
12:04.54 | whodaman- | self-pitty really sucks |
12:04.58 | JonathanD | with 1GB of ram. |
12:05.09 | RudyValencia | I really seriously doubt anyone on Freecycle would have a Pentium 4 they are disposing of. |
12:05.28 | RudyValencia | At least not in my Freecycle area. |
12:05.33 | JonathanD | you don't need a pentium 4 |
12:05.37 | JonathanD | you need something that can read the disk. |
12:05.52 | JonathanD | now go, do something. |
12:05.55 | JonathanD | cause I'm leaving :P |
12:06.09 | RudyValencia | How new of a computer can read a 48-Bit LBA disk? |
12:08.13 | RudyValencia | *sigh* I guess I won't be getting the new job. |
12:08.30 | RudyValencia | I have to submit my resume, which is on a 200GB hard disk. |
12:08.38 | RudyValencia | My computers can't read 200GB hard disks. |
12:08.47 | RudyValencia | Except the one that broke. |
12:09.03 | RudyValencia | So I guess I can't submit my resume :/ |
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13:11.40 | RudyValencia | Is $600 enough money to get a new PC? |
13:13.11 | whodaman- | depends |
13:13.15 | whodaman- | should be though.. |
13:13.20 | whodaman- | if you build it |
13:19.15 | JonathanD | you can buy retail for $600 |
13:19.16 | JonathanD | if you want. |
13:19.49 | JonathanD | these days you could even get a laptop for 600 |
13:20.11 | JonathanD | course, that wouldn't work with your 200GB drive... |
13:20.29 | CBG | De ja vu. |
13:20.32 | CBG | :P |
13:20.42 | JonathanD | RudyValencia: if all you need to do is read a disk, have you considered buying an IDE controller that can read the 200GB disk with your $50. |
13:21.23 | RudyValencia | I can't use it with this box, because this box's disk is thrashing trying to keep up with things/ |
13:22.06 | RudyValencia | I am just thinking of getting a new machine altogether. |
13:27.22 | inchworm | sounds like someone is trying to run XP on 98 hardware |
13:28.56 | inchworm | yay for -Wall |
13:29.11 | CBG | RudyValencia: you really should consider what the main use of the pc is gonna be. for example, if it's for gaming, you'll want to save cash on the cpu and splash out a bit more on the gpu and ram and even consider a new monitor. |
13:30.26 | RudyValencia | I play older games, so no biggy |
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18:25.38 | Slynderdale | "Windows 7 takes a different approach to the componentization and backwards compatibility issues; in short, it doesn't think about them at all. Windows 7 will be a from-the-ground-up packaging of the Windows codebase; partially source, but not binary compatible with previous versions of Windows." |
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18:27.53 | L4m3r | they need it so bad, it's not even funny |
18:28.26 | L4m3r | compatibility will be a hassle, but in the end they also have a much-needed opportunity to improve the aging Windows codebase |
18:30.37 | Slynderdale | L4m3r: That means nothing made for Windows XP, Vista, 2000, 98, ect will work on Windows 7 |
18:30.57 | L4m3r | they'll provide a crutch of some sort |
18:31.05 | deryni | Nothing *built* for them will, it doesn't (in that quote) say anything about api. |
18:31.15 | Slynderdale | L4m3r: Nope |
18:31.18 | Gr33nN1nj4 | http://nopaste.com/p/a6oWLvXMC (99 bottles of beer song in 5 lines) |
18:31.56 | Slynderdale | L4m3r: It sinply won;t be binary compatible, you'll need to compile the program to work just for Windows 7 |
18:32.27 | Slynderdale | By the way, for anyone here who uses Adobe Photoshoop "Adobe Photoshop CS4 Will Be 64-Bit For Windows Only" Basicly all new versions of Photoshop won't work on Linux or Mac OSX anymore. |
18:32.35 | L4m3r | yeah, but they'll offer some sort of virtualization toy, or *something* to make old apps work |
18:32.46 | L4m3r | Slynderdale: learn how to read |
18:32.59 | L4m3r | they'll only offer the 64bit version of CS4 on Windows |
18:33.00 | Gr33nN1nj4 | Slynderdale: there is now photoshop express :) |
18:33.07 | L4m3r | OSX still gets 32bit |
18:33.19 | L4m3r | linux... not even going to go there |
18:33.55 | L4m3r | they hope to get 64bit for OSX with CS5. unfortunately they basically have to rewrite it in objective-C to do that |
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18:35.24 | L4m3r | ah crap, I left a paycheck stub in my pocket... and washed those shorts... |
18:37.58 | L4m3r | IMO the move to cocoa is rather stupid on Apple's part, because obj-C isn't exactly a cross-platform language |
18:39.33 | L4m3r | anyhow, time for class |
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