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00:10.54llpaew!!!!
00:16.47llpo Miranda-IM é akele que suporta vídeo no MSN, neh?
00:18.07dezordianekron, usa o ion.
00:18.12dezordiaeh bom, eu utilizo ele.
00:18.22dezordiaapt-get install ion3
00:20.43nekrondezordia: cara, Pentium 4 1.6 256 de ram
00:20.52nekronn dos melhor, mas era pra rodar pelo menos XFCE
00:21.17nekronnessa mesma maquina sempre usei gnome
00:21.21nekronn sei oq ta havendo
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00:42.15WHoa_04anyone speak enligh here at all?
00:43.29UdontKnowWHoa_04: yep
00:43.32UdontKnowWHoa_04: sup?
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00:43.50WHoa_04you live in brazil ?
00:44.36llplike most of us
00:44.37llp:p
00:45.04UdontKnowWHoa_04: perhaps. sup?
00:45.09WHoa_04i dunno i have have time off was thinnking of going and spedning a few months in brazil
00:45.15UdontKnowWHoa_04: neat
00:45.23UdontKnowWHoa_04: what do you want to do here?
00:45.30WHoa_04buuuut i live in the us and epople are telling me its very dangerous territory
00:45.48UdontKnowWHoa_04: heh. I find chicago much more dangerous than sao paulo
00:45.58llpBrazil is a bit big to say that it is dangerous at all
00:45.59llp:)
00:46.11WHoa_04UdontKnow: yea but was rwading some stuff they were talking about kidnappings
00:46.23WHoa_04:\ no kidnappings in chicago well not many
00:46.37UdontKnowWHoa_04: its not really what people tell you... well, it IS *VERY* dangerous in *SOME* places, just like its dangerous for you to go to bronx alone at night
00:46.43nekronkidnappings oq eh/
00:46.47WHoa_04o hell yea lol
00:46.52WHoa_04bronx == no no
00:47.05UdontKnowWHoa_04: well, just dont go to a favela at night :P
00:47.09WHoa_04nyc alone at night == bad idea
00:47.19WHoa_04favela?
00:47.33UdontKnowWHoa_04: what exactly do you want to do here? work? study? tourism? nothing?
00:47.35WHoa_04if that the us version of "hood" ;)
00:47.37UdontKnowfavela == ghetto
00:47.38llpshantytowns
00:47.38netcatcheee favela, barraco . moca heee
00:47.53UdontKnownetcatc: kidnappings= sequestros
00:48.04netcatcUdontKnow, to ligado
00:48.22WHoa_04i dunnno...... i like tpo spend time in different parts of the worlxd i did for school but i was thinkig of just going to a nice part of brazil getting an apartment and living for like 4-5 months
00:48.31WHoa_04sorry typos
00:48.35UdontKnowWHoa_04: well, kidnappings do exist at some places, but its not that bad as the media paints it
00:48.49WHoa_04one everyday in sao pablo i herd
00:49.18UdontKnowWHoa_04: neat. what do you like? jungle? beach? hi-tech? calm small towns? high altitude? low altitude? cold? hot? we got them all
00:49.19WHoa_04i am learning portugese now so living among the langauge would be the best way to really get experinced with it
00:49.29nekrontambem tem q ver o tamanho de paulo neh. 1 entre milhoes de pessoas eh poco D
00:49.38WHoa_04UdontKnow: i live in miami so you know I love beaches ;)
00:49.43WHoa_04and beautifullll women
00:49.54UdontKnowWHoa_04: hehe
00:50.09WHoa_04miami is like latin maerica too ;)
00:50.17WHoa_04but only spanish
00:50.22llpnortheast is your place :)
00:50.35llpbut do not go to Recife :)
00:50.42llpI would sugest Natal :D
00:50.44llplol
00:50.53WHoa_04i always saw pics of Rio De janiero and always wanted to go there but  i looked at some stuff and it looked kinda un safe
00:51.09WHoa_04Recife?
00:51.22WHoa_04i want a city with a good plice force lol
00:51.26WHoa_04police
00:51.37llpso, do not go to Recife
00:51.38llp:)
00:51.49WHoa_04sint that close to natal ?
00:52.46llpI live in Natal and I was never stealed
00:52.47llp:)
00:53.06WHoa_04well is that common there ?
00:53.11llpacho que essa minha frase não tem muito sentido...
00:53.42henriquevI live in Recife and was stollen once in the place I used to think it was the most secure place here... By the way, everybody knewn it wasn't security, but I couldn't see it.
00:54.00llpWHoa_04, no, natal is one of the most secure cities of Brazil
00:54.16WHoa_04my father has been robbed 3 times here in america
00:54.26WHoa_04in ok areas so theres always excpetions
00:54.37henriquevWHoa_04: man, is a dangerous territory as NYC maybe. Just don't go to where we're not supposed to be as a tourist who doesn't speak the local's language.
00:54.44WHoa_04but i want to go down there to relax have a great time not watch my back and be scared lol
00:54.53llphenriquev, I was stollen 2 times one recife, one on Fortaleza, but never on Natal :)
00:55.21WHoa_04henriquev: i am learning porturgese now ........whole point of going down there was to learn language better and actually live their for like 6 months
00:55.30llpand, here, I go to "many" unsecure places :)
00:55.42WHoa_04llp: your also a local
00:55.43UdontKnowWHoa_04: portuguese is VERY different from place to place
00:55.48UdontKnowWHoa_04: like... completely
00:55.56guaxinimcredo
00:56.00WHoa_04so again living among it would help me :P
00:56.01guaxinimsabe aquele teste de nerd?
00:56.10UdontKnowWHoa_04: northeastern brazil != southeastern brazil != southern brazil != portugal
00:56.14llpguaxinim, sei...
00:56.18henriquevWHoa_04: be aware that police may exists and may be as not good as the "bad guys" :P
00:56.19UdontKnowWHoa_04: of course, we manage to understand each other
00:56.23guaxinim92 é alarmante?
00:56.24UdontKnowWHoa_04: but there are many slangs
00:56.27WHoa_04same way in america
00:56.30WHoa_04and other countires
00:56.32llpUdontKnow, you forget the north
00:56.35guaxinimllp,  Supreme Nerd. Apply for a professorship at MIT now!!!.
00:56.38WHoa_04almost impossible ot understand an irish man
00:56.39UdontKnowWHoa_04: do you like hot or mild weather?
00:56.48WHoa_04im used to miami weather
00:57.04WHoa_04sun :P get a nice tan :)
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00:58.15WHoa_04im jus trying to have a good time guys ....and kidnapping would scare the shit out of me
00:58.16henriquevWHoa_04: if I were you I wouldn't go to anywhere that I may find dangerous (i.e., a place without lot of people) if I didn't speak portuguese very well, except if you're with someone which you trust...
00:58.21lmelloolá :-D
00:58.26UdontKnowWHoa_04: well, we have the always-hot and the most-times-hot sometimes-mild on good places
00:58.26lmelloping -b ##debian-br
00:58.55henriquevllp: north doesn't exists :P
00:58.56guaxinim##debian-br ou ##debian-en ????
00:59.03UdontKnowWHoa_04: kidnapping is really a rare case
00:59.10UdontKnowguaxinim: br nao eh lingua
00:59.13UdontKnowguaxinim: br eh pais
00:59.16WHoa_04henriquev: here in miami i get a little nervous being / walking parking lots late at night thats kinda common sense right :)
00:59.20UdontKnowguaxinim: e estamos falando sobre esse pais
00:59.31guaxinimUdontKnow, a bom, se for assim
00:59.32guaxinim=)
00:59.45guaxinimkeep making the good work guys
01:00.01WHoa_04brazil just looks like an amazing country
01:00.17WHoa_04also im white will i stand out alot ? lol
01:00.21henriquevguaxinim: oh, take it: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv
01:00.34lmellofike: ping
01:00.37UdontKnowWHoa_04: I would go to places like Natal or Salvador for a northeastern state capital, good security, good fun, beach towns, hot all year, ...
01:00.42llpI am more white than many europe people
01:00.43llp¬¬
01:01.00WHoa_04im pretty white i mean i get tanned and all but yea
01:01.04llpUdontKnow, It was cold yesterday
01:01.04llp:p
01:01.07henriquevmine: Disorder | Rating: Paranoid: Very High; Schizoid: High; Schizotypal: Very High; Antisocial: High; Borderline: Moderate; Histrionic: High; Narcissistic: Very High; Avoidant: High; Dependent: Very High; Obsessive-Compulsive: High
01:01.13WHoa_04in miami so tan is a year long thing skin gets used to it etc
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01:01.20UdontKnowWHoa_04: if you want to be closer to a monster-18-million-people metropolis with all you would expect from a city that big, stay near Sao Paulo, maybe one of the beach towns, or one of the coutry towns around
01:01.31UdontKnowWHoa_04: I live about 200km away from Sao Paulo, its GREAT.
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01:02.22henriquevI mean, if I wanted to go to somewhere calm... :P
01:02.28WHoa_04seems to  me sao and rio can be kinda non hostile places
01:02.34henriquevbut there're some nice things to see and do at SP
01:02.35UdontKnowWHoa_04: we have excellent beaches, landscapes, and all, all around our 8000+ km of shores
01:02.54henriquevRio may be hostile if you decide to check out the ghettos
01:02.55WHoa_04would it be safe to walk the beach at night etc?
01:02.56llpWHoa_04, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal%2C_Rio_Grande_do_Norte
01:03.12UdontKnowWHoa_04: theres also Florianopolis, a state-capital in the southern part, neat beaches, wonderful women, a bit cooler weather
01:03.13WHoa_04henriquev: i stay away from ghettos in US at all cost ;)
01:03.24UdontKnowWHoa_04: also very good place to stay
01:03.40henriquevRio Grande do Norte is a good idea if you wanna go to beach, see no plant over an area of 1km² (lol) and more :)
01:03.51henriquevI mean... deserto, como é que é?
01:03.51WHoa_04also i live in miami now so im used to very beautiful women so yea a place with alot and sexy ones would be great
01:03.59henriquevdigo, dunas...
01:05.04llpbe aware of women with pirulito
01:05.05llpuhaahua
01:05.14WHoa_04pirulito ?????
01:05.18UdontKnowWHoa_04: lollypop
01:05.25llpUdontKnow, fale direito
01:05.25WHoa_04lollypop?
01:05.33guaxinimllp, omg what are you teaching for him?
01:05.34UdontKnowWHoa_04: the instrument... you know
01:05.39llpUdontKnow, ele não vai entender o que é mulher com pau...
01:05.41WHoa_04what lol
01:05.43WHoa_04im lost
01:05.44llp:X
01:05.48guaxinimWHoa_04, dick
01:05.49lmelloa women with a dick
01:05.50llpcomo é travesti?
01:05.51UdontKnowWHoa_04: she-male
01:05.54WHoa_04pirulito a stf or something
01:05.55WHoa_04OOOOOOO
01:06.00WHoa_04std*
01:06.02WHoa_04o damn
01:06.09WHoa_04alot of those ?
01:06.10UdontKnowWHoa_04: hit these names in google images: Natal, Salvador, Florianopolis
01:06.14UdontKnowWHoa_04: not that many
01:06.22UdontKnowWHoa_04: but you know, they exist everywhere
01:06.23WHoa_04well theres quite a few in the US
01:06.33WHoa_04o yea i have been fronted once by one
01:06.34UdontKnowWHoa_04: miami must have much more than all we have here
01:06.40WHoa_04well my friend did and i was with him
01:06.41llpnot many, but they commonly offer themselves to people outside here
01:07.03llpFlorianopolis has ugly beachs
01:07.06llpthey are cold...
01:07.12WHoa_04UdontKnow: yea wellll if i was a dick i will run :)
01:07.56WHoa_04this might sound stupid but brazil is a free country right ?
01:08.07WHoa_04i havebt really looked into governemnt or anything
01:08.31henriquevwell, we don't think you're going to have problems
01:08.40henriquevit's democratic, but free is a strong word for me...
01:09.06WHoa_04what do you mean
01:09.09henriquevI'd say kind of free, we live in a democracy, but government is corrupt
01:09.18WHoa_04corrupt in what ways
01:09.32WHoa_04is the lulu guy doing a good job with the country ?
01:09.57henriquevwell, police may want to get your money, for example... But it's more probable to happen with a brazilian who forget about going out with his ID than with a foraigner, I think so
01:10.02henriquevLula
01:10.24WHoa_04yea
01:10.28UdontKnowWHoa_04: yeah, pretty much free and free
01:10.29WHoa_04is he good ?
01:10.48henriquevsome say he is doing so, some say he isn't. I don't known, but others used to make not better work... At least when the subject goes to free cultura/software he is doing so
01:11.17UdontKnowWHoa_04: sometimes the cop want bribe, but its not common with foreigners... but its not a rule, rather an exception
01:11.27WHoa_04i mean is there a chance the country could goto a dictsatorship or something ?
01:11.41WHoa_04cops in natal ?
01:11.42UdontKnowWHoa_04: again, they only do that if you are in a borderline condition... which I dont think you are going to be at
01:12.07henriquevI think the great thing in his government is more the Minister guys than him. I mean, Sérgio Rezende (sciences, the found of the physics department I study :P) and Gilberto Gil (culture), for example...
01:12.07UdontKnowWHoa_04: its just a small part of our cops, and only in some occasions
01:12.36WHoa_04does it happen to brazillians as well ?
01:12.38UdontKnowWHoa_04: our government is democratic, no dictatorship, no army in control of anything, media is free to say whatever they want, so is the people
01:12.50WHoa_04UdontKnow: very good ;)
01:13.02WHoa_04freedom of press is what makes a country great
01:13.03UdontKnowWHoa_04: they dont ask foreigners for bribe...
01:13.07henriquevWHoa_04: thank God it's easer to the main media controller to get the government power than the army...
01:13.29WHoa_04also me being catholic is that a problem lol
01:13.37WHoa_04im just tryign to cover all bases
01:13.44UdontKnowWHoa_04: our country is like 70-80% roman catholic
01:13.49WHoa_04ahhh
01:13.54UdontKnowWHoa_04: then other 20% of other kinds of christianism
01:13.55WHoa_04yea i am roman catholic
01:14.02UdontKnowWHoa_04: and then the others
01:14.15henriquevby now the army seems to be satisfect by the fact a lot of ?dumb? people think they're the best thing ever in Brazil and with their capacity of asking for more money to the gov and the gov releasing it to them after some political speech...
01:14.28UdontKnowWHoa_04: we are also free to go to whatever religion, as long as its not criminal
01:14.37WHoa_04yea
01:14.45WHoa_04well sounds good
01:14.55WHoa_04i may very well be in natal soon :)
01:15.03UdontKnowWHoa_04: looked for pics?
01:15.08WHoa_04yea
01:15.13WHoa_04looks absolutely beautiful
01:15.37UdontKnowWHoa_04: http://www.natal.rn.gov.br/fotos/gal_3/Rio%20Potengi%20Natal%20%20%20%2006.jpg
01:15.52UdontKnowWHoa_04: dont mind the boat
01:15.54UdontKnow;)
01:15.57UdontKnowjust the landscape
01:16.12WHoa_04beautiful
01:16.19WHoa_04weather like there
01:16.33UdontKnowhttp://www.abbra.eng.br/praia10.jpg
01:16.40UdontKnowhttp://www.abbra.eng.br/praia9.jpg
01:16.51WHoa_04would that beach be safe to walk alone
01:17.34WHoa_04or jus layout an relax
01:17.34henriquevit's complicated to say
01:17.34WHoa_04ouch
01:17.34WHoa_04i can walk miami beach at any time and be safe
01:17.35WHoa_04well theres always exceptions
01:17.37UdontKnowWHoa_04: http://www.brasilboliger.no/files/map/natal_mapa_praias_b.jpg -- a few beaches you can go once in Natal
01:17.48UdontKnowhenriquev: many beaches are safe
01:18.07henriquevyeah, but to known if one is just looking by a photo is kind of complicated :P
01:18.25WHoa_04i mean what is not safe is that where you get kidnapped or killed ?
01:18.58UdontKnowhttp://mk23.image.pbase.com/u39/bborges/large/25482427.NatalRN045_2.jpg
01:19.15henriquevno,
01:19.31UdontKnowWHoa_04: heh. kidnaps dont happen that often, nor murders without a reason
01:19.43henriquevnot safe for me: a suspicous guy asking me for money in a language I don't known and maybe he wants it in a way that he would force me to give to him
01:19.47guaxinimUdontKnow, Obsessive-Compulsive: High
01:19.57guaxinimAntisocial: High
01:20.03guaxinimParanoid: High
01:20.05guaxinimeauuheauheuhaehu
01:20.14guaxinimeu admito eu tenho sérios problemas
01:20.15guaxinim:p
01:20.37WHoa_04UdontKnow: only takes once
01:20.53WHoa_04dont get me wrong miami can be very violent at times
01:21.06WHoa_04but still i like to walk the beach at night sometimes
01:21.10henriquevguaxinim: tenho mais
01:21.13UdontKnowWHoa_04: heh. I can tell you its way less dangerous than miami, NYC, or LA
01:21.24guaxinimhenriquev, psss
01:21.26UdontKnowWHoa_04: I've been to places like LA, and I was shocked
01:21.40UdontKnowWHoa_04: and my friends and relatives went to Miami and NYC
01:21.52UdontKnowWHoa_04: even Sao Paulo feels safer, for me
01:22.12UdontKnowSao Paulo is reasonably safe if you dont go to wrong places
01:22.15WHoa_04http://www.gulfstream.net/kokomo/images/Miami%20Beach.jpg
01:22.20UdontKnowLA is unsafe everywhere
01:22.34WHoa_04yea
01:22.35guaxinimmiami é o lar da Sol
01:23.04UdontKnowWHoa_04: I can make a bet... you'll love to be here
01:23.10guaxinimi hate EUA
01:23.11guaxinim=/
01:23.20UdontKnowguaxinim: so... ?
01:23.21WHoa_04yes i love beaches and sunny stuff
01:23.31WHoa_04do any rich people have houses on beaches ?
01:23.34guaxinimUdontKnow, ...?
01:23.39UdontKnowWHoa_04: of course
01:23.46UdontKnowWHoa_04: its common to do so
01:24.06WHoa_04are those safe
01:24.08UdontKnowWHoa_04: even me, I have an apartment 1 block away from the beach, 1 hour away from Sao Paulo, and I am not rich :P
01:24.17WHoa_04ahhhh
01:24.17UdontKnowWHoa_04: yeah
01:24.18henriquevso do I
01:24.25UdontKnowWHoa_04: apartments here are cheap
01:24.36WHoa_04well if i like it i will buy a house ;)
01:24.39UdontKnowWHoa_04: my apartment is worth less than 20K USD
01:24.45WHoa_04and miami 6 months then brazil
01:25.08henriquevthe problem is because of pollution (thank to the State's nice environment protection) it doesn't make sense for me use it :(
01:25.11guaxinimWHoa_04, i live at 700km of one beach and im not rich. =)
01:25.25WHoa_04i meant directly on a beach lol
01:25.34WHoa_04like open back door run out on beach
01:25.43WHoa_04but 1 block away works :)
01:25.45henriquevwell, it's forbidden by law
01:25.50WHoa_04oooo
01:25.51henriquevbut there exists
01:25.56henriqueva lot
01:26.06WHoa_04do those houses cost alot ?
01:26.13UdontKnowWHoa_04: my apartment is here: http://www.islyophilization.org/Html/Conference(2005)/Images/24-city%20of%20guaruja.jpg http://www.cetesb.sp.gov.br/Imagens/guaruja.jpg http://www.gobrasil.net/images/SP-guaruja01-350.jpg http://www.gobrasil.net/images/SP-guaruja02-350.jpg http://www.gobrasil.net/images/SP-guaruja04-460.jpg
01:26.14guaxinimWHoa_04, yes
01:26.17UdontKnowWHoa_04: depends
01:26.31UdontKnowWHoa_04: there are houses for every wallet :P
01:26.48guaxinimUdontKnow, for my one i think not =(
01:26.48WHoa_04are those the people targeted for kinappings ?
01:26.59henriquevbut is common to find houses less than 100m from the water (in ?big(lol)? moon) in front of the beach
01:27.14guaxinimWHoa_04, just in Rio de Janeiro
01:27.20guaxinim=P
01:27.35henriquevWHoa_04: no
01:27.47guaxinimWHoa_04, rapes are most frenquently
01:27.48guaxinimaeuheaueuheauheah
01:27.50henriquevthere exists two types of kidnappings here...
01:27.56WHoa_04you guys prolly think i am like compulsive but that scared the hell out of me
01:28.00henriquev1) when you're a milionary
01:28.00UdontKnowguaxinim: quanto vale sua casa?
01:28.10guaxinimnão sei
01:28.13guaxinimeu pago aluguel
01:28.14henriquev2) when someone near you want to get money they known you've
01:28.15UdontKnowguaxinim: meu ape de 1 quarto no guaruja custa R$ 45 000
01:28.20UdontKnowguaxinim: menos que um carro.
01:28.22guaxinima imobiliaria acha que vale 500 por mes
01:28.33WHoa_04henriquev: that happens in natal ?
01:28.38UdontKnowguaxinim: mas eh tudo q eu preciso.
01:28.49UdontKnowguaxinim: o resto eu faco fora do ape mesmo...
01:28.54WHoa_04i dont plan to live in rio or sao
01:28.55henriquevWHoa_04: no, it isn't common
01:29.10UdontKnowWHoa_04: they are joking with you
01:29.20WHoa_04but i do own a few bussiness and if they do well i would like ot buy anice house down there
01:29.20henriquevWHoa_04: but don't be so happy with the possibility of being kidnappned, it's really uncommon
01:29.23UdontKnowWHoa_04: making a lot of fun from your afraid state
01:29.37henriquevyou aren't supposed to get famous
01:29.55WHoa_04so is famous bad ?
01:30.02UdontKnowWHoa_04: not exactly
01:30.04henriquev:P
01:30.16UdontKnowWHoa_04: attracting attention == attracting all kinds of attention
01:30.18WHoa_04i also own a record label
01:30.24UdontKnowWHoa_04: you know, its that way everywhere
01:30.29WHoa_04yea
01:30.39WHoa_04but not to many celebrities get kidnapped in california :(
01:30.46UdontKnowWHoa_04: not here either
01:30.47henriquevI mean, it's difficult for you to get famous because it's difficult for you to get kidnapped
01:31.12WHoa_04do they usually kill you when they kidnap you ?
01:31.17UdontKnowWHoa_04: no
01:31.38UdontKnowWHoa_04: they only kidnap people when they can reach influent parties for rescue fee
01:31.38WHoa_04remember those soccer moms
01:31.47WHoa_04or well football
01:31.53guaxinimWHoa_04, i scape from my 4 kidnap last week
01:31.54guaxinimeauheuhea
01:32.02guaxinimele acha que só tem bandido no país
01:32.11WHoa_04guaxinim: seriously ?
01:32.13guaxinimWHoa_04, thats a joke =)
01:32.16WHoa_04ooo
01:32.17WHoa_04:)
01:32.21guaxinimWHoa_04, brazil its a nice place to live
01:32.27guaxinimWHoa_04, principaly in south
01:32.31guaxinim=)
01:32.50guaxinimeuhaeuheauhea
01:32.52henriquevswimming all days (lol)
01:32.56WHoa_04but like i said if this record label stuff works out and Sony allows distribution which I think they will then yea
01:33.01UdontKnowWHoa_04: but I'd say, you either relax and trust me that you can be safe, as we all are safe right now, or better stay home and build a bunker 200m down below ground
01:33.05UdontKnowWHoa_04: hehe
01:33.05henriquevdiving...
01:33.20WHoa_04UdontKnow: yea i know
01:33.22guaxinimhenriquev, i see your Where is my mind
01:33.28WHoa_04but like all 5 soccer moms got kidnapped
01:33.30henriquevguaxinim: oh, god
01:33.30guaxinimhenriquev, man, what a fu@#$2 is that????
01:33.33UdontKnowWHoa_04: none of us is getting kidnapped or murdered right now
01:33.46guaxinimWHoa_04, not this week
01:33.51WHoa_04any of you ever been robbed ?
01:33.59henriquevguaxinim: a girl who loves me asked me to sing to her...
01:33.59henriquevlol
01:33.59UdontKnowWHoa_04: well, some soccer players were born in ghettos, like ronaldo
01:34.03WHoa_04oooo
01:34.14guaxinimguaxinim, she dont loves you anymore?
01:34.14UdontKnowWHoa_04: and their families still live there, for many of them
01:34.15guaxinimueauheauheauheauueahuaeuahe
01:34.22WHoa_04oooo
01:34.25UdontKnowWHoa_04: so, they live in the middle of the ~bad area~
01:34.42UdontKnowWHoa_04: probability of anything happening is 1000000000 times higher than if they moved out
01:34.48henriquevguaxinim: maybe she is waiting for me in her birthday tomorrow :P
01:34.58guaxinimhenriquev, =)
01:35.04WHoa_04well lets say i was to move ot brazil a nice house on a beach in like natal or something ......and i am known in the area ya think i would ever have any problems ?
01:35.22UdontKnowWHoa_04: not really, as most people dont have problems
01:35.35henriquevmaybe some neighbours wants to known you because you're foreigner
01:35.42guaxinimhenriquev, you need vocal classes
01:35.45guaxinimeauehea
01:35.51henriquev:P
01:35.55UdontKnowWHoa_04: unless you buy a ferrari and start driving around the ghetto everyday... you know what I mean
01:36.02WHoa_04yea
01:36.04guaxinimhenriquev, or make like me
01:36.10guaxinimDONT SING
01:36.10WHoa_04so no ferrari's ??
01:36.11UdontKnowWHoa_04: otherwise, you can be very safe
01:36.37WHoa_04well any ghetto's in natal?
01:36.40guaxinimindians can kiddnap and kill you
01:36.51UdontKnowhenriquev: tem favela em natal?
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01:37.01henriquevUdontKnow: sei não, sou de Recife. llp, tu sabes?
01:37.01guaxinimUdontKnow, tem
01:37.09guaxinimeu vi na tv esses dias
01:37.10guaxinim=)
01:37.12WHoa_04soo all you guys live in brazil
01:37.13llphenriquev, sei
01:37.16UdontKnowWHoa_04: some cities have, some cities dont... but expect a friendly people, even from the ghettos
01:37.17llpWHoa_04, yeah
01:37.26WHoa_04wow
01:37.38WHoa_04you guys should pat each on the back .... speak very good english
01:37.47UdontKnowWHoa_04: there are many many good people living in ghettos just because they have no money
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01:37.52WHoa_04better then most people here ;)
01:37.54henriquevWHoa_04: and be careful if any ferrari's owner ask you for money to start a bussiness...
01:37.59henriquev:P
01:38.09guaxinimhenriquev, your sing remember, i need to download that music. i loose on my last backup
01:38.16UdontKnowWHoa_04: in fact, most people in ghettos are decent people too
01:38.29UdontKnowWHoa_04: you know, poor places are a good hideout. thats just it
01:38.33henriquevguaxinim: buy it :P
01:38.33WHoa_04same here just those young thugs lol
01:38.35llpUdontKnow, tem muitas
01:38.44llpUdontKnow, mas não nas partes acessíveis por turistas...
01:38.48WHoa_04legal to own gun in brazil ?
01:38.51henriquevguaxinim: or keep listening my. Why not mine, eh? WHY NOT?
01:38.53UdontKnowWHoa_04: kinda
01:38.57UdontKnowWHoa_04: there are rules
01:38.57guaxinimhenriquev, i have placebo authorization :^)
01:38.59WHoa_04what you mean
01:39.01henriquevguaxinim: DON'T WANNA LISTEN ME SINGING?
01:39.08WHoa_04lisence it etc ?
01:39.15WHoa_04allowed to use it for persoanl protection
01:39.16UdontKnowWHoa_04: yes
01:39.16guaxinimhenriquev, are you sick?
01:39.16llpUdontKnow, eles só passam por favelas para ir para as praias do norte, mas isso está sendo "resolvido" com a construção de uma nova ponte
01:39.17henriquevok, I've pixies one :P
01:39.18llp:)
01:39.40UdontKnowbrb
01:39.40llpUdontKnow, ou seja, ter, até tem, mas os turistas não vêem.
01:39.49WHoa_04but again beautiful girls are a must
01:39.52henriquevllp: o objetivo da ponte? hahahahha
01:39.56guaxinimhenriquev, i got the two =)
01:39.58WHoa_04miami has sexy woemn and so does cali tons of them
01:40.06henriquevwell, if you don't find brazilian girls in brazil
01:40.11WHoa_04but other places in US does not really
01:40.15henriquevbe aware that a strange gay wapon was created
01:40.17llphenriquev, sim, o objetivo da ponte é esse, fazer os turistas não passarem por toda a zona norte da cidade.
01:40.25henriquevand all the world's females should be died
01:40.30guaxinimhenriquev, 150 peers have that music o.O
01:40.38guaxinimgoooood =)
01:40.52WHoa_04i mean i want ot be considered a local eventually not  so much a foreigner or tourist or anything like that
01:41.05henriquevWHoa_04: I wouldn't recommend you to try get a gun here anyway
01:41.05llphenriquev, sabe como é... governo comprometido com  o povo :)
01:41.18WHoa_04henriquev: i dont own one here either
01:41.18guaxinimWHoa_04, you must to know Florianópolis
01:41.41UdontKnowWHoa_04: cute girls are *everywhere*
01:41.44UdontKnowWHoa_04: every town
01:42.07WHoa_04i find latino girls very attractive
01:42.49WHoa_04not so much mexican though :\
01:43.05UdontKnowWHoa_04: I prefer the brazilian variety
01:43.30WHoa_04i had a brazillian gf from brazil she was more darker though ...like those soccer plauyers
01:44.41guaxinimhenriquev, i download the pixies from limewire and placebo
01:44.54WHoa_04i am still very shocked by your guys english
01:44.56guaxinimhenriquev, no diference bethwen
01:45.23henriquevguaxinim: maybe you downloaded a music played by them together
01:45.34guaxinimhenriquev, hummm
01:45.38henriquevWHoa_04: oh, it's common :P
01:45.54WHoa_04=P
01:46.10henriquevthe internets must known english as well as C...
01:46.20henriquevC++...
01:46.31WHoa_04c++ :\
01:46.33UdontKnowWHoa_04: we have pretty much ALL skin colors available, and all ethnics, with a brazilian touch
01:46.34WHoa_04C :P
01:46.42UdontKnowWHoa_04: its just a matter of choosing :P
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01:46.54guaxinimUdontKnow, ui
01:47.25UdontKnowWHoa_04: one of my ex-girlfriend was daughter of japanese dad and italian-descendant mom... gorgeous kind
01:47.45UdontKnowWHoa_04: we have all kinds of ethnics and blends
01:47.47guaxinimand UN country
01:47.47guaxinim=)
01:47.51WHoa_04so i would fit in then ?
01:47.54WHoa_04race wise lol
01:48.00UdontKnowWHoa_04: anybody fits
01:48.04UdontKnowWHoa_04: you'll see
01:48.06WHoa_04ok good
01:48.19WHoa_04well i dont care how much i want to fit in in China it wouldnt happen ;)
01:48.40henriquevso do one of the supposed-to-be-my-girlfriend-but-I-ignored-her-because-of-no-reason-and-now-see-how-am-I-stupid-:P
01:52.26guaxinimacabo o momento internacional?
01:59.08jihadgraas a deus.
02:02.41guaxinimjihad, eueuheahueahu
02:02.55guaxinimjihad, eu não aguentava mais olha pra pagina do babelfish
02:02.57guaxinimeu vo dormir
02:12.23jihadalguem usa limewire ai?
02:14.21WHoa_04im back
02:16.06WHoa_04how are school systems in Brazil?
02:16.41llpbad :)
02:17.03WHoa_04you just saying that ?
02:17.18WHoa_04how about in cities like natal and stuff
02:17.55llppublic schools are very bad :( private ones are only bad
02:17.56llp:)
02:19.30WHoa_04lol
02:19.43WHoa_04so theres not ot many colleges and stuff then ?
02:20.31henriquevpreciso dormir
02:21.01WHoa_04http://youtube.com/watch?v=9vqoQTlEU7E&search=snoop
02:21.06WHoa_04what part of brazil is that
02:22.59llpI do not have flash :)
02:23.05WHoa_04i dont knwo if its your msuic type or not but yea beautiful women and landscape
02:23.09WHoa_04music
02:23.12UdontKnowWHoa_04: heh
02:23.16WHoa_04no flash :0
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02:23.22UdontKnowWHoa_04: my school was AWESOME
02:23.26UdontKnowWHoa_04: and my university rocks
02:23.30WHoa_04yea
02:23.39WHoa_04UdontKnow: what part of brazil is that ?
02:23.46UdontKnowWHoa_04: Sao Paulo state
02:24.05WHoa_04i meant that video ;)
02:24.20UdontKnowWHoa_04: I studied at private schools, and now at a public university
02:24.34UdontKnowamd64 + flash = bad
02:24.34WHoa_04i went to a private school here in US also
02:24.45WHoa_04ahhh
02:25.02WHoa_04i always wondered what part of brazil that video took place
02:25.33WHoa_04o wait it says at the end lol
02:25.38WHoa_04obrigado brasil
02:26.00WHoa_04wheres that ?
02:27.01WHoa_04hmmm i always thought that this was shot in Rio
02:27.03UdontKnowobrigado = thanks
02:27.30WHoa_04oooooo
02:27.44WHoa_04wait obrigado sint a city ?
02:27.47WHoa_04isn't
02:28.07WHoa_04why did they use it in that context
02:28.18UdontKnowobrigado brasil = thanks brasil
02:28.18WHoa_04interesitng
02:28.39WHoa_04i seeeeeeee.....
02:28.51WHoa_04welllll i thhink its rio
02:29.15UdontKnowany screenshot ?
02:29.22UdontKnowI can look at a screenshot maybe
02:29.27WHoa_04it has that jesus statue
02:29.29WHoa_04sec
02:29.40UdontKnowoh, probably Rio then
02:29.49UdontKnowour bigger one is in rio
02:30.07UdontKnowthere are a few smaller and more recent replicas in other places
02:30.15UdontKnowbut the big real one is in rio
02:32.34WHoa_04http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4941/huh5pg.jpg
02:32.55UdontKnowyeah, rio
02:33.22WHoa_04ahhh
02:33.30WHoa_04girls are beautiful in that video ;)
02:33.55WHoa_04are favaelas those places buil;t like on a hill with a whole bunch of little houses all up and down it ?
02:34.19UdontKnowyes
02:34.34UdontKnowin Rio, its safe to visit some favelas
02:34.44UdontKnowbut just some of them, at tourist times
02:34.55UdontKnowbut I wouldnt go there myself
02:35.17WHoa_04man i am not trying to see no hoods if i want that i can drive 10 mins and see some poverty driven areas it makes me sad
02:35.46UdontKnowright
02:36.13WHoa_04same here .......its ok in the hood in a car and during daylight
02:36.32WHoa_04shit go in the hood a bad part stop at a stop sign ya might get 5 guys jumping out at you with guns
02:36.39WHoa_04so i dont go down there
02:38.05UdontKnowhehe
02:38.17WHoa_04prolly same way in brazil right
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02:39.22WHoa_04also is it safe to wear jewerly
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02:42.07llpvou ver o tal do x-lite
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02:42.30UdontKnowllp: ve se o pulver communicator rola legal
02:42.38UdontKnowllp: ouvi dizer q rola bem, eh o da FWD
02:42.38llppulver?
02:42.43llphmmm
02:42.49llpna verdade, eu vou mandar uma pessoa instalar
02:42.50llphehehe
02:42.51llp:)
02:42.56UdontKnowfwdnet.net = fwd.pulver.com
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02:43.49WHoa_04http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060630042616AApk4wo
02:43.54WHoa_04:\ lol
02:49.06WHoa_04seems like brazil's police is cracking down on alot of things
02:49.38henriquevfui
02:49.39UdontKnowpardon?
02:49.39henriquevdormir
02:50.03henriquevexquoize-moi?
02:50.05henriquev=P
02:50.06henriquevfui
02:54.39UdontKnowWHoa_04: cracking down? whats that?
02:59.25dark_lightReally dangerous! Dont go. I have a friend who told me, crime is an everyday occasion in Brazil.
02:59.43dark_lightbrazil isn't so dangerous o.O
02:59.53dark_light(e eu fico me perguntando pq todo mundo resolveu falar em ingles)
03:00.23UdontKnowdark_light: cuz WHoa_04 doesnt speak portuguese, and we are telling him that stuff
03:01.51UdontKnow(1152067850 23:50) zelazny        Misc   >> Failed oper by tassio (i=botman@20150182227.user.veloxzone.com.br): 'host mismatch'.
03:01.52UdontKnow(1152067856 23:50) zelazny        Misc   >> Failed oper by tassio (i=botman@20150182227.user.veloxzone.com.br): 'host mismatch'.
03:01.52UdontKnow(1152067864 23:51) zelazny        Misc   >> Failed oper by tassio (i=botman@20150182227.user.veloxzone.com.br): 'host mismatch'.
03:01.52UdontKnow(1152067871 23:51) zelazny        Misc   >> Failed oper by tassio (i=botman@20150182227.user.veloxzone.com.br): 'host mismatch'.
03:01.52UdontKnow(1152067875 23:51) zelazny        Misc   >> Failed oper by tassio (i=botman@20150182227.user.veloxzone.com.br): 'host mismatch'.
03:01.54UdontKnowargh
03:01.59UdontKnowbrasileiro kiddie eh foda
03:03.12dark_lightahah:P
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03:07.55llpwhat is podcast
03:08.46llphttp://img.terra.com.br/i/2006/07/04/366544-6793-cp.jpg
03:08.59dark_light(não precisa tambem ficar falando tudo em ingles né.. podcast é stream de audio/video pela internet, não..?)
03:09.25dark_light(ou algo assim)
03:15.30denisbrllp, http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast
03:17.39jihadalguem usa limewire?
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03:31.59UdontKnowhttp://www.things.org/%7Ejym/fun/nietzsche-tech-support.html
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03:46.04Chico1980ae
03:46.08UdontKnowae
03:46.13WHoa_04UdontKnow: cracking down is an expression meaning like doing something about it
03:46.22UdontKnowWHoa_04: hmmm, nods
03:46.27UdontKnowWHoa_04: a lot is being worked on
03:46.35WHoa_04very promising
03:46.38Chico1980Alguem sabe como fazer com que o comando zip pegue somente o arquivo e nao o diretorio inteiro?
03:46.46WHoa_04UdontKnow: do you get along with police ?
03:47.06Chico1980por exemplo zip /home/teste /home/teste/teste.tes
03:47.38UdontKnowWHoa_04: I dont have anything to blame them for now
03:51.34WHoa_04UdontKnow: In us alot of people say the US police are corrupt etc etc but if i see a police officer i don't ignore i am very friendly and they respect me for that and have a nice small conversation
03:52.11UdontKnowWHoa_04: well, its the same story here. and everywhere
03:52.27UdontKnowWHoa_04: its just that I dont chat much with them
03:52.39WHoa_04yea......well ive learned alot the last few hours
03:53.07UdontKnowheh
03:53.16UdontKnowdont think were too weird.
03:53.29WHoa_04huh?
03:53.33WHoa_04no good stuff =P
03:53.41UdontKnowwe're a bit different, but you can get used with us in a few moments
03:54.04WHoa_04right now americans have a bad perception
03:54.19UdontKnowwhen did they have a good one? lol
03:54.25WHoa_04brazil seems like a place you can fit in and be accepted
03:54.31WHoa_04up until the war etc
03:54.48UdontKnowtheres a joke here, that we can provoke US govt and they will bomb Buenos Aires (Argentina's Capital)
03:55.15WHoa_04you guys dont like argentina ?
03:55.25UdontKnowits another old joke
03:55.35WHoa_04I seee
03:55.43WHoa_04well you ever been to US ?
03:55.50UdontKnowyeah, a few times
03:55.56WHoa_04ahhh what parts
03:56.01UdontKnowI know many cities in Texas, Louisiana and California
03:56.08WHoa_04ahhhh
03:56.20WHoa_04did you like it ?
03:56.31UdontKnowfor what part? mostly yes.
03:56.36WHoa_04yea
03:56.53WHoa_04no kidnappings ;) lol sorry im jus stuck on that ;)
03:57.06UdontKnowwhat really shocked me was the way people deal with other ethnics there
03:57.17UdontKnowits a mess... its like they are dealing with aliens
03:57.20WHoa_04what do you mean ?
03:57.32WHoa_04you mean like americans treating foregieners bad ?
03:58.02UdontKnowhere we treat everybody the same, doesnt matter the skin color, the hair or anything (there are exceptions, yes, but most decent people treat people the same)
03:58.11WHoa_04:)
03:58.25WHoa_04we do too but theres always certain areas and yes alot of racist people
03:58.34WHoa_04mexicans get made fun of alot here :(
03:58.48UdontKnowwhen I arrived there the first time, there was this guy who almost ran over my brother in the airport. on foot
03:58.50WHoa_04and snobbish white people are racist against black quite often also
03:59.15UdontKnowif my friend didnt pull my brother, the other guy would simply bump my brother and walk over him
03:59.20WHoa_04UdontKnow: happened to me in LA once
03:59.29WHoa_04i got hit
03:59.32UdontKnowthis was in Dallas/Fort-Worth International Airport
03:59.41UdontKnowwhen I just arrived, first time
03:59.42WHoa_04we call those jersk
03:59.44WHoa_04jerks
03:59.54UdontKnowI was shocked. we dont have that idiocy here
04:00.19WHoa_04theirs always jerks man
04:00.24WHoa_04no matter where you are
04:00.34UdontKnownot this kind, not so often
04:00.38UdontKnowand not for the same reasons
04:00.41WHoa_04here like gas stations and crap they have horrible customer service
04:00.48UdontKnowpeople here are a lot more friendly
04:00.55WHoa_04i hope :)
04:01.04WHoa_0490 percent sure i will be there soon
04:01.13UdontKnow:)
04:01.30WHoa_04yea man but  i like miami alot
04:01.36UdontKnowbtw, mom went on a 15-day trip to northeastern states :) she's enjoying a lot
04:01.51WHoa_04so i will alswyas back back ya know but if brazil is nice you' ll surely see me there alot
04:02.28WHoa_04i would like to see that carnival sometime tooo
04:03.36WHoa_04and i hope it has beautiful women like they say there is :)
04:04.21UdontKnowyou can bet there is
04:04.39WHoa_04do white girls attract you
04:04.44UdontKnowdepending on the style you want, you might better go to one region or another
04:04.48UdontKnowWHoa_04: of course
04:04.59WHoa_04what do you mean by style
04:05.40UdontKnowethnics/skin/body shape/cultural level/personal style/ ...
04:06.00UdontKnowfor example, if you want germanic-type and germanic-based blends, southern is better
04:06.04WHoa_04im pretty light skinned white guy i mena i tan and all ya know but i prefer darker
04:06.23WHoa_04i like black girls alot tooo but i like something in between
04:06.41UdontKnowwe have pretty much all there is between that
04:07.01WHoa_04girls dont try to use newcomers do they ?
04:07.11UdontKnowheh
04:07.17UdontKnowgirls are girls everywhere
04:07.30WHoa_04i saw on a forum this guy went to brazil asked some girl back to the room spiked his drink and she took his watch and money
04:07.45UdontKnownah, then she wasnt exactly a girl
04:07.48llpUdontKnow, no interior do RN vc acha uns tipinhos germanicos
04:07.48llp:p
04:07.57UdontKnowshe was a whore-like or whatever
04:08.01UdontKnowllp: sim sim
04:08.11UdontKnowllp: eu ja achei colonia japonesa em MT
04:08.14WHoa_04UdontKnow: isee where did you learn all your american slang ?
04:08.18UdontKnowllp: nao duvido de nada
04:08.35llptem muita descendência holandesa no interior daki
04:08.47UdontKnowWHoa_04: life... a few trips to the US, a lot of internet, some study, just life in general
04:09.02WHoa_04you know what bling is ;)
04:09.50WHoa_04also are their alot of brazillian celebrities singers etc ?
04:10.22UdontKnowWHoa_04: just like anywhere, there are a lot of celebrities
04:10.29UdontKnowWHoa_04: there are a lot of singers too
04:10.41UdontKnowWHoa_04: and there are many that are both
04:10.54WHoa_04are celebrites bothered by crime ?
04:11.01WHoa_04kidnappings etc?
04:11.26UdontKnownot generally
04:11.35WHoa_04how often has it happened ?
04:12.45UdontKnownot sure, but I dont hear that coming... last time I heard about a famous artist kidnapped was a few years ago, but I didnt care that much... at least, mass media didnt show it like it uses to do when theres a catastrophe like that
04:14.10WHoa_04damn the actual artist was captured
04:14.50UdontKnowlike, last time I heard of a composer being kidnapped, all newspapers made it frontpage, and police hurried to solve the case
04:14.59UdontKnowTV made it everywhere too
04:15.13WHoa_04is he alive?
04:15.16WHoa_04and well
04:15.18UdontKnowof course
04:15.26WHoa_04id they abude him
04:15.28WHoa_04did
04:15.47UdontKnowthey didnt say that, but I dont think so
04:15.51WHoa_04i seeee
04:15.59UdontKnowbut hey, our crime rate isnt that big as you think
04:16.16WHoa_04hmmmm........well if my label works out i dont want to be persecuted becasue of my record label
04:16.21UdontKnowof course, you need to lock your cars and houses, but thats common sense here
04:16.26WHoa_04again UdontKnow you know what i have herd man ;)
04:16.32WHoa_04takes a while ot get ajusted
04:16.38UdontKnowheh
04:16.41UdontKnowI am used to it
04:16.42WHoa_04UdontKnow: lol same here
04:16.57WHoa_04UdontKnow: 2 years ago i had a man come to my house and kick my door down
04:17.04UdontKnowI meet many foreigners often
04:17.06WHoa_04i ran out of a window
04:18.20UdontKnowlike, Andy, an editor for O'Reilly, came for FISL, he asked me if he should eat lettuce, because people told him our lettuce were infected and stuff
04:18.23WHoa_04and also i might want to try and do something with my record label in latin america
04:18.33UdontKnowpeople make up every kind of stories
04:19.09UdontKnowthe United States of Fear.
04:19.24UdontKnowyour country has that thing... they live for the fear
04:19.31WHoa_04yea i know :\
04:19.37WHoa_04i am trying to chnage it
04:19.41UdontKnowdid you ever read 1984, by George Orwell?
04:19.42WHoa_04my dad does not have ANY fear
04:19.52WHoa_04but my mom is crazy feared
04:19.55WHoa_04Yes i have
04:19.57WHoa_04Big brother
04:20.12UdontKnowWHoa_04: I am mentioning managing the masses with fear
04:20.18UdontKnowWHoa_04: which is well explained there
04:20.28UdontKnowBig Brother is just one of the aspects discussed there
04:20.32UdontKnowthat book is awesome
04:21.29WHoa_04UdontKnow: how long has brazil been a free country
04:21.54UdontKnowWHoa_04: free as in what?
04:21.59UdontKnowWHoa_04: what aspect?
04:22.56WHoa_04welll ya know free like america ish
04:23.02WHoa_04freedom of press etc
04:23.37UdontKnowwell, freedom of press existed ages ago, then was shut down during the military dictatorship, then re-opened
04:23.46UdontKnowa few decades ;)
04:24.26WHoa_04when did it re open ?
04:24.43WHoa_04i mean could you ever seee brazil going back to a dictatorship or anything like that
04:25.53UdontKnowno, impossible
04:26.02UdontKnowit just doesnt fit anymore
04:26.18WHoa_04good good
04:26.27UdontKnowour worst period was when they did AI-5
04:26.27WHoa_04my dad doesnt like the whole idea of me moving to brazil
04:26.39UdontKnowAI-5 has the same idea hidden inside the Patriot Act
04:26.44WHoa_04he remembers how it was waaay back
04:26.58UdontKnowAI-5: shoot first, ask questions later
04:27.25WHoa_04where do you think most violence from brazil comes from ?
04:27.27UdontKnowPatriot Act: Shoot First, torture, interrogate, record, publish, dont ask relevant questions/dont listen
04:28.18WHoa_04UdontKnow: i dont think its toooken that that hiiiigh of an extreme
04:28.30WHoa_04but then again i dont know
04:30.48UdontKnowheh
04:31.03UdontKnowif you read about AI-5 you will see, that Patriot Act is a copy
04:31.24UdontKnowours was used right away, and hurt our people deeply
04:31.30WHoa_04"Recent FBI statistics indicate that there are approximately 500 kidnappings per year (many of those for ransom) and approximately 2000 extortions per year." <-- referring to the USA
04:31.43WHoa_04so i guess it happens here too we jus dont hear about it lol
04:31.50UdontKnowyours is being used behind the curtains, so people dont get angry with the govt
04:32.10WHoa_04yea
04:32.43WHoa_04i didnt know usa had so many kidnappings itself
04:32.49UdontKnowheh, it does
04:32.57UdontKnowits just that the media hides it a bit
04:33.11UdontKnowof course, U.S. Free Speech is not Free Speech
04:33.13WHoa_04yea never herd of it in my life
04:33.15WHoa_04in a movie ;)
04:33.16UdontKnowits Directed Speech
04:33.34UdontKnowdid you watch Fahrenheit 9/11?
04:33.43UdontKnowby Michael Moore?
04:35.54UdontKnowand The Road to Guantanamo?
04:37.47rbmI did
04:38.03UdontKnowhey rbm :)
04:40.20UdontKnowrbm: both?
04:40.52UdontKnowrbm: I saw The Road to Guantanamo last week... scary
04:41.38rbmUdontKnow: haven't seen the latter, no
04:41.51rbmthe US is indeed the USF (US of Fear)
04:41.54rbmthe government loves it
04:41.58rbmand the people do too
04:42.41UdontKnowrbm: heh. lots of experts raised that in the past, and 1984, by George Orwell, is clear as a day on the effects of it
04:42.56UdontKnowbut people read, find the story "cute" and trash all the knowledge :P
04:43.22rbmI live in UT, the most "conservative" state in the union
04:43.44rbmI've given up trying to have inteligent political conversations with people here
04:43.48UdontKnow"hey, lets raise a new alert, the flashlight companies are high on stock, they need to sell some"
04:44.00rbmthey simply won't listen. They have too may prejudices and fantasys stuck in their heads
04:44.16rbmfantasies
04:44.35UdontKnow"lets alert they are going to hit telcos now, so people buy more cellphones"
04:45.02UdontKnow"lets say now that food will be scarce, canned food industry needs a boost!"
04:45.03UdontKnowhah
04:45.52rbmI haven't read Orwell yet
04:45.59UdontKnowrbm: do watch that last one, its damn interesting and scary, about some folks that live in the UK and ended up in Guantanamo
04:46.15UdontKnowrbm: 1984 is small and easy to read. and really a must-read one
04:46.22rbmthe current government is insane
04:46.23UdontKnowrbm: paguei R$ 19 novo
04:46.48rbmI was in shock for a couple days after elections. Couldn't believe he got reelected
04:47.11rbmUdontKnow: vou ler
04:47.19WHoa_04UdontKnow: that farenheit 9 11 movie was banned in alot of places for being dis honest many people came forard and said yes i made this up , its nothing but slander and extended lies ......alot of those kinds of movies have been made for 30 years but thats the only movie to get actual play
04:47.20UdontKnowrbm: I am in shock because we are going for Lula again!
04:47.34rbmthat shocks me too
04:47.49WHoa_04is Lula bad?
04:48.07UdontKnowWHoa_04: are they lies? or they were forced to come to media and say "I Lied", otherwise theyd get bad treatment?
04:48.13UdontKnowrbm: nite!
04:48.20UdontKnowWHoa_04: he is corrupt
04:48.23WHoa_04no man trust me the media is all against the president
04:48.34UdontKnowWHoa_04: heh. doubt it
04:48.38WHoa_04yes man
04:48.39UdontKnowWHoa_04: its all a game
04:48.40WHoa_04CNN lol
04:48.49UdontKnowWHoa_04: they are never 100% for nor 100% against
04:49.11UdontKnowthey sail where the wind blows
04:49.13WHoa_04as they say if you tell a lie long enough it will become the truth
04:49.25UdontKnowWHoa_04: thats 1984 again
04:49.50WHoa_04cnn does not use good sources .......they just say it then later apologize in time magazine which no 1 reads
04:50.30UdontKnowheh
04:50.42UdontKnowbut they play the game
04:50.51UdontKnowotherwise theyd be shut down
04:50.56UdontKnowpatriot act is there
04:51.12UdontKnowthe government can do anything to anyone without the need to ask a judge
04:51.19UdontKnownor let the judge know
04:51.23UdontKnowor anyone know
04:51.29WHoa_04i am for the patriot act in a way buuuuut then i also know hwo it could be abused 1884 again
04:51.31WHoa_04grrrrr
04:51.42UdontKnowWHoa_04: theres a classic quote there
04:51.45UdontKnowlet me get it
04:52.51UdontKnow"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -- Ben Franklin
04:53.08WHoa_04yep i know
04:53.41WHoa_04the good thing for patriot is you can tap phone lines of known terrorist but they could do the ssame to me and i would never know
04:53.56UdontKnowno
04:53.58UdontKnowits not good
04:54.09WHoa_04eehhh......
04:54.18WHoa_04well i see your arguement and i agreee
04:54.21UdontKnowwhy shouldnt a judge be consulted if a tap is to be done?
04:54.34UdontKnowthere needs to be balance
04:54.41WHoa_04yes exacrtly balance
04:54.42UdontKnowjudge is there for that
04:54.58WHoa_04i think phone tapping can only be used if there is something known going on
04:55.36UdontKnowwhy can people be arrested with no charge, kept for years in a military base in cuba treated like pigs then released later with not even a "sorry" word?
04:55.41UdontKnowno
04:55.48UdontKnowit can be used anywhere, anytime
04:55.58UdontKnowdidnt you see what AT&T and NSA were doing?
04:56.20WHoa_04huh
04:56.40WHoa_04UdontKnow: i fully understand your arguement
04:56.45WHoa_04and i agree with you
04:56.53UdontKnowhttp://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/
04:57.00UdontKnowjust for some completeness
04:57.12WHoa_04but also america is a target right now .....and if they didnt have that power there would have to be a trade off
04:58.38UdontKnowheh
04:58.43UdontKnowremember who bin laden is?
04:58.47WHoa_04but yes its stage 1 of 1984
04:58.51UdontKnowhe was funded by NSA
04:58.54UdontKnowerr
04:58.56UdontKnowby CIA
04:59.03WHoa_04lol what ?
04:59.14UdontKnowBin Laden was funded by the CIA
04:59.19UdontKnowin the 80s and 90s
04:59.23WHoa_04lol how so
04:59.31UdontKnowto do bad stuff to the other countries
04:59.40WHoa_04where you see this at ?
04:59.46UdontKnowbut now Bin Laden probably got a bigger bill from someone else
04:59.55UdontKnowand is doing the revenge
05:00.15WHoa_04where did you see this
05:00.21WHoa_04farenheit 9 11?
05:00.44UdontKnowhttp://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanistan/Afghanistan_CIA_Taliban.html
05:00.47UdontKnowWHoa_04: no
05:00.51UdontKnowWHoa_04: all over the net
05:00.58UdontKnowWHoa_04: from every source possible
05:01.16WHoa_04we did fund those ountires becasue of wars we gave weapons to iraq for the iraq / iran war
05:03.06WHoa_04well i dunno man
05:03.14UdontKnowBin Laden and the Arab-Afghans
05:03.14UdontKnowAs well as training and recruiting Afghan nationals to fight the Soviets, the CIA permitted its ISI allies to recruit Muslim extremists from around the world. Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid reports:
05:03.15UdontKnowBetween 1982 and 1992, some 35,000 Muslim radicals from 43 Islamic countries in the Middle East, North and East Africa, Central Asia and the Far East would pass their baptism under fire with the Afghan mujahideen.
05:03.24UdontKnowmujahideen. Tens of thousands more foreign Muslim radicals came to study in the hundreds of new madrassas [religious schools] that Zia's military government began to fund in Pakistan and along the Afghan border.
05:03.34UdontKnowEventually more than 100,000 Muslim radicals were to have direct contact with Pakistan and Afghanistan and be influenced by the jihad [against the USSR].
05:03.35WHoa_04heres how it is this every president loves this country dearly they are all good men some have different methos / belifs of getting it but they all have america at heart
05:03.36UdontKnow...
05:03.48UdontKnowamerica at heart?
05:03.54WHoa_04yes man
05:03.54UdontKnowlol
05:04.11UdontKnowWHoa_04: you definitely need to look outside the shell
05:04.18WHoa_04they all do man ....doesnt lula have brazil at heart ?
05:04.29UdontKnownot really
05:04.32WHoa_04i do man .......i just like to draw a line ya know
05:04.38WHoa_04oooo i think he does
05:04.39UdontKnowlula has *HIS* interests at heart
05:04.53WHoa_04what would he get from this being a president
05:04.57UdontKnowjust like *ANY* president, king, prime minister or whatever, *ANYWHERE*
05:05.04UdontKnowWHoa_04: influence.
05:05.13UdontKnowWHoa_04: influence can do lots of things
05:05.17WHoa_04like?
05:05.38UdontKnowWHoa_04: letting something wrong happen, letting wrong business take place, ...
05:05.51UdontKnowWHoa_04: getting lots of cash for not looking into something
05:06.09UdontKnowWHoa_04: or do you really think you have saints at power?
05:06.23WHoa_04no no by all means
05:06.40WHoa_04i know how much you hate bush i dont like him either but i have saw the man cry
05:06.40UdontKnowits all a quest for personal interests
05:06.46UdontKnowI dont hate bush
05:06.49UdontKnowhes not the problem
05:06.54UdontKnowhes just the icon for the problem
05:07.11WHoa_04bush was trying when he ordered those troops in clearly crying like a baby
05:07.11UdontKnowhah. he cried when the duck died?
05:07.30WHoa_04come on now man lets be a little fair :)
05:07.45UdontKnow(from the story he was listening from that little girl, while WTC was going down)
05:07.53UdontKnowheh. I am being fair :)
05:08.03WHoa_04i think he has the country at heart
05:08.09UdontKnowBush is not the problem, its the US of Fear mindset thats the problem
05:08.21UdontKnowWHoa_04: you *DEFINITELY* need to take some months here
05:08.28WHoa_04i will :)
05:08.36UdontKnowWHoa_04: being out of the vicious circle brings you a new insight
05:08.47WHoa_04i understand
05:09.01UdontKnowif you are not the one with the fear, you see a lot of things
05:09.28WHoa_04i mean the US is a very good country man ......yes alot of people have fear etc but its still a nice place
05:09.34UdontKnowheh
05:09.39UdontKnowI know its a nice place
05:09.47UdontKnowI have relatives living there and all that
05:10.20UdontKnowlike, my cousin coordinates one of the big nuclear research labs in the USA
05:11.01UdontKnowhe is a PhD in Physics by the University of Sao Paulo
05:12.36WHoa_04yea
05:12.38UdontKnowthe best living american in the area fought that vacancy with him, and he won ;)
05:12.58WHoa_04huh?
05:13.01WHoa_04i odnt get it ?
05:13.10UdontKnowthere was 1 vacancy, 2 guys
05:13.17WHoa_04vacancy?
05:13.22UdontKnowthey had a test, and he performed better
05:13.28WHoa_04ooo
05:13.28UdontKnowfor the job
05:13.37WHoa_04ooo yea
05:15.25UdontKnowbut still, the fear thing is REAL BAD
05:16.47UdontKnowits the propulsor of frenetic consumption, of the fear economy, of the devotion for the government, of the submission to the abusive government things, of the justification of unjustified acts with a lame reason
05:17.58UdontKnows/unjustified/unjustifiable/
05:19.27UdontKnowsometimes, governments do things that are extremely bad, but since they have people in fear, they say that the enemy was striking and they just HAD to do it, and the people passively accept it, since "there was no choice! It was them or us!"
05:20.42UdontKnowthats what the USoF is today
05:21.43UdontKnowand it doesnt matter if its Bush or Grass or Forest, the problem is still the mindset, not the guy there. the guy there is just an actor, and normally doesnt have control of what you think he does
05:22.46WHoa_04UdontKnow: you need some fear to be safe
05:22.52UdontKnowno
05:23.04UdontKnowyou need some facts to be safe from the fear
05:24.54UdontKnow;)
05:25.08UdontKnowits good to have fear OF SOMETHING
05:25.15UdontKnowits not good to have absolute fear.
05:26.43WHoa_04yea well that kidnapping shit scares me shitless
05:27.45UdontKnowwell, if you come here in a fear mindset, you will go back real soon, because you wont be used to how people look at you, how people interact with you, and you'll be shitting on your pants
05:28.09UdontKnowbut if you try to get over it, you will enjoy it and have a wonderful time
05:31.58WHoa_04UdontKnow: you just have to understand i have never herd of that kind of stuff in my life
05:32.21WHoa_04i have a 8 week porturgese course coming up 9am to 6 pm at night
05:32.43WHoa_04im not going to brazil until i have the language pretty good and the accent good
05:34.11UdontKnowhttp://www.tonyvella.it/www/foto/sao_paulo_avenida_paulista_full.jpg
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05:35.02UdontKnowhttp://www.lago.com.br/acervo/Banco%20de%20Imagens/Geografia/images/AVENIDA%20PAULISTA_JPG.jpg
05:35.29UdontKnowhttp://www.csus.edu/indiv/o/oreyd/images/avpaulista.JPG
05:35.45UdontKnowthis is one of the avenues in the heart of Sao Paulo
05:36.02WHoa_04yea ?
05:37.36WHoa_04is that where the people get kidnapped
05:37.38WHoa_04:(
05:38.27UdontKnowthese people look like being kidnapped? http://mk23.image.pbase.com/u22/ardoedu/upload/36913607.bao0010.JPG
05:38.55WHoa_04lol
05:39.06WHoa_04you sarcastic one ;)
05:39.14UdontKnowhttp://www.plataformaurbana.cl/copp/albums/userpics/10008/normal_Imagem_067~0.jpg
05:39.24UdontKnowthis is one of our most famous museums, there
05:39.36UdontKnowhttp://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/m/ma/marco-yeah/293803_avenida_paulista_-_gazeta.jpg
05:39.44UdontKnowthese people are having fun at night there
05:39.46WHoa_04well is it ok to drive expensive cars
05:39.51WHoa_04i mena do you see laot of them ?
05:39.55WHoa_04alot
05:41.36UdontKnowyeah, why not? of course, ferraris are rare, but BMW, Mercedez, Audi are all too common here
05:41.46WHoa_04common?
05:41.48WHoa_04good
05:42.50WHoa_04so luxury cars arre common ?
05:42.55UdontKnowyes
05:43.06WHoa_04are those the ones getting kidnapped ?
05:43.27WHoa_04lol i knwo you thinkm i am a fearful worried bastard but im not ;)
05:43.40UdontKnowhttp://www.octanemotors.com.br/
05:43.42UdontKnowlook at this
05:43.54UdontKnowthis is a store about 2km away from where I am right now
05:44.10UdontKnowof course, its directed at high-end people
05:45.11WHoa_04how do you plan to live your life
05:45.13WHoa_04wealthy ?
05:46.02UdontKnowhappy.
05:46.13WHoa_04me too
05:46.25merovigiampow ! isso aqui eh debian brasil  !
05:46.28WHoa_04but im jus saying how do uyou want your finacial situation to be
05:46.28UdontKnowwealthy is a factor I can get if I do my job okay, but I am not obsessed with it
05:46.29merovigiamvamo parando
05:46.52WHoa_04would you ever want to be famous
05:47.22UdontKnowWHoa_04: of course, we are a capitalist country :P
05:47.40UdontKnowWHoa_04: famous, me? not my type... but maybe, who knows what happens next?
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05:47.53merovigiamparaa ! >:D
05:47.55WHoa_04well i dont really want to be famous either
05:48.09WHoa_04but my line of work.....i am pretty sure it will result in that
05:48.15Afanassiia, onde eu consigo esse raio de msgfmt =/
05:51.13UdontKnowWHoa_04: hehe
05:51.20WHoa_04do you guys home invasionsss
05:51.25UdontKnowWHoa_04: whats your label about?
05:51.35WHoa_04a form oh hip hop music
05:51.38WHoa_04of
05:51.43UdontKnowWHoa_04: it happens sometimes, as it happens there or anywhere else
05:51.45UdontKnowoh
05:52.10WHoa_04and i would like ot have some latin infuence also
05:52.19UdontKnownods
05:52.42UdontKnowhip hop here is mostly in Rio
05:52.45merovigiam>:O
05:52.50WHoa_04like daddy yankee and all them
05:53.05UdontKnowthe big stuff, I mean
05:53.06WHoa_04UdontKnow: well that place really sint for me i dont think ;)
05:53.19UdontKnowWHoa_04: it can be, and can not be
05:53.32UdontKnowWHoa_04: you need to GO there and spend a week, to decide
05:53.42WHoa_04yes i understand
05:54.05UdontKnowtheres lots of good stuff there
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05:54.09WHoa_04well all i was going to say is we have home invasions in america daily multiple tons more likely
05:54.18UdontKnowheh
05:54.23UdontKnowhere its not that common
05:54.33UdontKnowbut does happen a bit
05:56.01WHoa_04very common here very very
05:56.10UdontKnowheh
05:56.20UdontKnowthen, american homes are made of cardboard :P
05:56.24UdontKnoweasy to break in
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05:57.02WHoa_04you can knock down my door in one medium kick
05:57.28UdontKnowyou can knock down your foot and maybe your leg if you kick my door :P
06:01.17WHoa_04lol
06:01.25WHoa_04shit my fornt and back door == 1 kicks
06:01.35UdontKnowheh
06:01.47UdontKnowWHoa_04: see that octanemotors url I told you?
06:01.50WHoa_04windows are a tap ;)
06:02.28WHoa_04yes
06:02.31WHoa_04nice cars
06:02.42UdontKnowWHoa_04: they also offer hardened cars, that can even hold AK-47 SMG / AR-15 Rifle shots
06:02.53UdontKnowmilitary-grade ammo, might I add
06:03.12UdontKnowso, if you are paranoid, you have safe havens
06:03.21WHoa_04lol does that happen
06:03.23UdontKnowif you are not, you can do with a regular car
06:03.24WHoa_04cars get shot at ?
06:03.30UdontKnowno, not exactly, no
06:03.39WHoa_04then why owuld thyey make them
06:03.51UdontKnowbecause VIPs are VIPs anywhere in the world
06:04.10WHoa_04yea
06:04.12UdontKnowdoes the pope come out on clear sky? the US President?
06:04.14UdontKnowheh
06:04.18WHoa_04lol
06:04.21WHoa_04very truie
06:04.21UdontKnowof course, some people buy that too
06:04.29UdontKnowbut its paranoia
06:04.36UdontKnowjust like the US has some paranoia
06:04.37UdontKnow;)
06:04.56WHoa_04well how often do cars get shot with ak's
06:05.21UdontKnowhah. I should say... "never"
06:05.37WHoa_04it happens sometimes around here
06:05.41UdontKnowbut if you ram the car up the favela, against the gang that lives there
06:05.48UdontKnowwho knows
06:06.35WHoa_04yea
06:07.09WHoa_04well just like the us i guess except these damn kidnappings
06:07.10WHoa_04:0
06:07.15UdontKnowhah
06:07.19UdontKnowlet me see a thing
06:08.37WHoa_04huh
06:08.52UdontKnow"Chegamos a ter mais de 200 seqestros por ano e, em 2005, devemos ficar entre 60 e 70 casos."
06:09.02WHoa_04translate :P
06:09.11UdontKnowwe had over 200 kidnappings a year, and 2005 will be around 60 or 70 cases
06:09.27WHoa_04so its declining ?
06:09.51UdontKnowof course
06:09.55WHoa_04:0
06:09.57WHoa_04:)
06:10.12WHoa_04declinig is very good
06:10.21WHoa_04atleast they are aiding to the problem
06:12.12WHoa_04so in like 2 years what do you think it could be
06:12.18WHoa_04or 10 or 20
06:12.30UdontKnow- O nmero de homicdios no estado de So Paulo caiu 18,5% de 2004 para 2005,
06:12.44WHoa_04:) translacion :P
06:12.48UdontKnownumber of murders in SP state declined 18.5% from 2004 to 2005
06:13.01WHoa_04<PROTECTED>
06:13.45WHoa_04UdontKnow: what city is that with 60 - 70
06:14.19UdontKnow"o tempo mdio de cativeiro caiu de 11 para 7 dias" average kidnap time lowered from 11 to 7 days from 2004 to 2005
06:14.24UdontKnowWHoa_04: not a city, a state
06:14.28UdontKnowWHoa_04: but I lost the link
06:14.50WHoa_04what cities are in there
06:16.16WHoa_04im talking about like rio or sao
06:16.22UdontKnowI lost the link for the page
06:16.28UdontKnownot finding it
06:17.17WHoa_04im sure it hardly happens and ya would most likely have to maybe disrepsct them i dunnno
06:17.44UdontKnowdisrespect what?
06:18.03WHoa_04the person who maybe setup the knapping
06:19.16UdontKnowheh
06:19.23merovigiamvou nessa !
06:19.27WHoa_04or could be random
06:22.32WHoa_04UdontKnow: bodyguards could also be handy
06:26.00WHoa_04im just kidding
06:26.17WHoa_04thats the fear shit again
06:26.30UdontKnowheh
06:29.34WHoa_04Kidnapping for ransom is almost nonexistent in the United States today, due in great part to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's aggressive stance toward kidnapping. The Bureau made kidnap for ransom a special priority, and continues to do so today. It pursues kidnap cases ferociously, as FBI agents who have rescued kidnap victims have been known to describe the rescue as a personal high point of a career.
06:37.10WHoa_04is there nice clubs in brazil
06:41.27WHoa_04also what time is it where you are UdontKnow
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06:41.46DebianTUXTo na area
06:41.50DebianTUXduvido ter alguem acordado
06:41.54DebianTUXUdontKnow: acordado:
06:48.56DebianTUXsoh eu de bobao aki :-P
06:49.01DebianTUXhenriquev: nem voce ta acordaod:
06:53.44UdontKnowWHoa_04: 3:53am
06:53.50UdontKnowDebianTUX: to meio away
06:54.02DebianTUXuia!
06:54.14DebianTUXUdontKnow: eu tambem, fazendo trabalhinhos da faculdade. saco saco.
06:54.19DebianTUXmodelar e documentar eh um saco :-P
06:54.23WHoa_04253 am here
06:56.57DebianTUXengracado, o umbrello parece vazar p; todo canto.
06:57.19DebianTUXdepois de alguns minutos usando ele ocupa boa parte da memoria
07:20.31WHoa_04what ya doing UdontKnow
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07:31.11DebianTUXeita ferro, o X ta super instavel com composite.. morre atoa toda hora
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08:51.54varicelloqual o comando pra deletar todo o diretorio, mesmo ele estando cheio?
09:01.49DebianTUXrm -rf
09:02.09DebianTUXcaraca, preciso urgentemente de alguem que manje bem java e que entenda de parametros de entrada e saida
09:07.12DebianTUXUdontKnow: pow nego, se tu puder salvar a minha vida eu ficarei eternamente agradecido
09:14.12varicelloqual o melhor? kxdocker ou kooldock?
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09:15.19WHoa_04when is carnival again ?
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09:24.07DebianTUXvaricello: vou conhece-los agora
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09:24.21DebianTUXleleobhz: grande bixona!
09:24.25DebianTUXleleobhz: trabalha mais nao eh:!
09:25.12leleobhzDebianTUX: claro
09:25.17leleobhz:=]
09:25.53DebianTUXvaricello: nao achei esse kooldock, mas eu usei esse kxdocker um tempo, e eh um lixo
09:26.19varicelloDebianTUX: pq?
09:26.32biguaDebianTUX: eu consegui subir o Xgl
09:26.33biguaeheh
09:26.35biguano deb testing
09:26.51biguaDebianTUX: o leleo me disse que vc estava com problemas
09:26.54varicelloqual o comando pra instalar pacote *.deb?
09:27.07biguavaricello: man dpkg
09:27.11biguaobserve a opao -i
09:27.11bigua:]
09:27.36DebianTUXbigua: como se fez: documentou isso ai:
09:27.55biguaeu fiz um downgrade
09:28.01biguaeu tava no unstable, voltei pra testing
09:28.10DebianTUXputz, ai nao rola
09:28.13biguaai usei os pacotes dakele sonique*
09:28.22biguae + alguns do compiz + antigo
09:28.23biguaeheeh
09:28.29DebianTUXbigua: hum...
09:28.30biguaDebianTUX:  pq ? :P
09:28.40DebianTUXbigua: prq eu sou fresco e gosto de tudo fresco :-P
09:28.49biguaahaha mas vo te falar
09:28.52biguao Xgl MUITO LOCO!
09:29.10leleobhzbigua: tb acho
09:29.13leleobhzxgl r0x
09:29.18DebianTUXbigua: eu sei. fiquei brincando com ele no kororaa
09:29.23biguacara to usando desktop mto diferente do jeito q eu usava
09:29.30biguageito*
09:29.35DebianTUXjeito mesmo
09:29.55biguaeu usava uma barra e minimizava alternava as janela no alt tab
09:29.59biguaagora uso as workdesk
09:30.04biguae ao inves de usar a barra
09:30.08biguada alt + tab ele mostra todas janelas
09:30.10biguade todas as work
09:30.11biguaahuhauahau
09:30.21biguae ao inves dele "maximizar" ele vai pra work
09:30.25leleobhzhehehehehe
09:30.38bigualegal d+
09:30.58DebianTUXnada como projetar um sistema da pior forma que voce consegue...
09:31.10biguaahahahha
09:31.44DebianTUXe nada como estar acordado desde ontem as 8 da manha :-\
09:32.18bigualeleobhz: vc ja viu o Xegl?
09:32.22biguavai ser o novo "Xgl"
09:32.30biguaaquele David se nao me engano ta desenvolvendo
09:32.46leleobhzeita
09:32.52DebianTUXbigua: eu ficaria feliz ateh em rodar o xgl em window mode
09:32.56leleobhzbigua: have SS? :]
09:33.03bigualeleobhz: nao, eu vi no wiki
09:33.09leleobhzDebianTUX: vai dormir o viado
09:33.11biguada opensuse l eheh
09:33.13DebianTUXbigua: veio, tu teve que downgradear a distro toda:
09:33.20leleobhzerr
09:33.22biguaDebianTUX: yep
09:33.28leleobhzubuntu users nao
09:33.30leleobhz:]
09:33.35leleobhzeu to com a distro intacta
09:33.39DebianTUXleleobhz: nem, ateh as 18hrs de hj eu tenho q estar desperto. alias, ateh umas 19:30 prq vou ter que voltar dirigindo p; casa
09:33.48biguafiz uns 300mb de download
09:33.53DebianTUXbigua: que repositorio louco eh esse ai que ce usou
09:33.53biguagnome, etc~
09:34.02biguaDebianTUX: o debian.br mesmo
09:34.03DebianTUXbigua: ah, ce usa gnome tambem...
09:34.12DebianTUXbigua: ce falou de um tal de sonique
09:34.22biguaa o sonique foi o que documentou
09:34.28leleobhz?
09:34.28DebianTUXah tah, akele doido
09:34.31DebianTUXja sei qual eh
09:34.36DebianTUXpow, tem xgl no testing:!:!:!
09:34.45biguaele tipo  "resumiu" o wiki do xgl
09:34.47DebianTUXou tu usou o repos do ubuntu + testing
09:34.58biguaDebianTUX: entao o xgl da testing nao presta :\
09:35.09biguae o mesaglitz tbm nao
09:35.16leleobhzeu uso ubuntu
09:35.24leleobhze o XGL pra ele ta de boa
09:35.29leleobhzno packages conflits
09:35.29biguaeh
09:35.34biguaeu instalei o pacote do ubuntu
09:35.34DebianTUXleleobhz: no meu proximo laptop eu vou usar ubuntu :-P
09:35.44DebianTUXmas tem que ser hp com plaquinha de video boa
09:35.56DebianTUXveio, eu to de calca e ta frio a vera!
09:36.10DebianTUXbem, chega de papo, vamos ao diagrama de casos de uso... feito depois de terminar o sistema :-P
09:36.21biguaxserver-xgl_7.0.0-0ubuntu4.debian1_i386.deb
09:36.27leleobhzDebianTUX: eu dormi de calcas cara
09:36.30leleobhz:]
09:36.35bigualibgl1-mesa-glx_6.4.1-0.4xgl1_i386.deb
09:36.37biguahehe
09:36.41leleobhzai o
09:36.43DebianTUXleleobhz: vish, acho q eu moror. ainda bem que eu nao dormi :-P
09:36.54bigualeleobhz: eu ia instalar o ubuntu
09:36.58leleobhzja tem pacote novo de CVS do compiz
09:36.59biguaqdo achei esses pacotes nao precisou
09:37.03leleobhz:]
09:37.10bigualeleobhz: eu tive q downgrad o compiz tbm
09:37.13leleobhzbigua: debian nao e pra desktop
09:37.15biguacompiz_0.0.2-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
09:37.20leleobhz(o cdd e a prova disso)
09:37.51leleobhzcompiz-gnome 0.0.13-0quinn7
09:37.54leleobhz:]
09:38.03biguacompiz-gnome_0.0.2-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
09:38.04biguaauhauahu
09:38.28leleobhz:p
09:38.33biguao gentoo ja tem compiz
09:38.40DebianTUXbigua: eh
09:38.43leleobhzbigua: mas nao fiz um gambiarra pra esses pacotes
09:38.53bigualeleobhz: eu tive q fazer :P
09:38.56DebianTUXdaki a um ano o sid tem :-P
09:39.02biguaDebianTUX: haahha
09:39.07biguadaqui 1 ano o OpenBSD tbm tem :P
09:39.30leleobhzbigua: o sid SE LANCAR vai ter daqui a 4 ou 5 anos
09:39.30DebianTUXdaki a 8 o netbsd tem
09:39.31leleobhz:p
09:39.43leleobhze se tiver que fazer votacao entre os DDs, ai nao entra mesmo
09:39.45bigualeleobhz: :o
09:39.45leleobhzDebianTUX: :p
09:39.46DebianTUXe daki a 16 tem no meu nec mobile pro :-P
09:39.53leleobhzhahahahhahahaha
09:39.54biguaahauhauhaahuahu
09:40.00leleobhzDebianTUX: apelou ne tiu
09:40.06DebianTUX(ps: ele ainda roda netbsd 2.0)
09:40.14bigualeleobhz: vc ta rodando ubuntu?
09:40.21biguaeu ate baixei a iso
09:40.22biguaterminou hj
09:40.23biguaeheh
09:40.24leleobhzbigua: to
09:40.36bigualeleobhz: a gaelra fala que kernel pra recompilar nele um saco
09:40.49biguaisso consta?
09:40.49biguaeheh
09:41.29biguadebian pra ficar bom pra desk tem q mecher mto :\
09:41.39DebianTUXbigua: nao acho.
09:41.43leleobhznao tentei
09:41.46leleobhzbigua: mas nunca precisei
09:41.50leleobhzDebianTUX: CLARO!
09:41.55leleobhzvoce usa gnome 2.8sarge
09:41.56leleobhz:]
09:42.02bigualol ahhaahah
09:42.18bigualeleobhz: hm..
09:42.27leleobhzbigua: ubuntu e sistema debian so
09:42.37biguaapt, synaptic e tal n
09:42.42biguapo to aprendendo usar synaptic
09:42.44biguaeu ficava so no apt
09:42.48leleobhzbigua: e ainda tem o pacotinho linux-restricted com a pancada de modulos proprietarios do kernel
09:42.59leleobhzbigua: default grafico pro ubuntu e synaptic
09:43.09bigualeleobhz: nossa..
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09:44.31leleobhzbigua: ubuntu == debian
09:44.41leleobhzso que todo recompilado pra ser sempre versoes mais novas
09:44.42leleobhz:]
09:44.52leleobhze claro, um estimulo ao desktop violento
09:45.19biguacerto
09:45.52biguao sux eh q ja personalizei tanto o deb
09:46.01biguaq da ate medo ahahah
09:46.20bigualeleobhz: eu tava pensando no suse
09:46.24biguaeu nao conehco o suse mtoo bem ainda hehe
09:46.28DebianTUXbigua: hahaha, eu soh fiz isso uma vez, ai ele quebrou todo :-P
09:46.47biguaDebianTUX: hm..
09:47.01biguapo, eu ja quebrei, re-quebrei etc
09:47.09dark_lighteu ainda nao tive nenhum motivo pra usar suse..
09:47.29leleobhzgente, hora de trampar
09:47.39dark_lightaquela história do yast soou mto mal pra mim, nao sei como eles andam no momento com SL, mas.. :P
09:47.43DebianTUXeu juro que eu estava morrendo de cancaco, mas agora que clareou eu to descansado O.o   parece que eu dormi e tudo
09:47.45leleobhzbigua: abre um qemu ae e tal
09:47.57leleobhzDebianTUX: ¬¬
09:47.59bigualeleobhz: vai ficar mto pesado eheh
09:48.02leleobhzDebianTUX: aperta e 10h da manha
09:48.07biguaeu tenho soh 192 de ram
09:48.09leleobhzbigua: ou sei la, arruma outra particao
09:48.14leleobhzbigua: iiiiiiiiiii
09:48.15bigualeleobhz: eh
09:48.18leleobhznem vai entao
09:48.21biguapq?
09:48.23dark_lightDebianTUX, o.o
09:48.24leleobhz256 aki ta me matando de raiva
09:48.28biguaaheaueh
09:48.30leleobhz(realmente o gnome e pesado)
09:48.42DebianTUXleleobhz: total. so mais kde
09:48.55biguapo eu dei uma personalizada do gnome aqui
09:48.59biguatirei algumas api
09:49.02biguatosca pracas
09:49.06leleobhzDebianTUX: kde tb nao se usa com 256 de ram
09:49.07leleobhz:]
09:49.09leleobhzbigua: uia!
09:49.25biguaqdo voltei pra testing
09:49.28biguatinha 2 opoes ou kde
09:49.29biguaou gnome
09:49.32leleobhzgente, vo nessa :]
09:49.36biguaai criei um pouco de coragem eheh
09:49.37DebianTUXleleobhz: eu usava em um k63 450 com 198 de ram, e ainda rolava vmware p continuar usando as paradas do win2k
09:49.47biguaDebianTUX:  lol.
09:49.54DebianTUXkde rulz
09:50.04leleobhzDebianTUX: kde2?
09:50.08DebianTUX3
09:50.11leleobhz(kde2 eu ja usei :p)
09:50.14DebianTUXeu nao gostava do 2
09:50.24biguaprimeira vez q usei kde foi no caldera linux
09:50.25biguaahuhauah
09:50.33leleobhzfui!
09:50.37leleobhzciao pra vcs
09:50.40DebianTUXleleobhz: ai
09:50.43DebianTUXputz
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10:07.23biguaahuauh
10:07.28biguaDebianTUX: to queimando o cd do Ubuntu
10:07.33biguacom uma renca de app aberto :x
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10:14.32WHoa_04brazil brazil brazil
10:15.58avenaportugual agora
10:16.00avena:D
10:16.17avenana copa digo!
10:25.43biguaahaha
10:33.41ptlhum
10:33.48ptlnamorar uma menina com a metade de sua idade pecado? =P
10:34.03biguavamos ver
10:34.06biguatenho 22 anos
10:34.10biguase eu namorar com uma menina de 11
10:34.15biguaah depende
10:34.22biguaauhhuHAHuh
10:34.24ptlEu tenho 32
10:34.33bigua16 no caso/
10:34.36ptlna verdade a menina tem 17
10:34.37ptlno 16
10:34.38ptlmas t valendo
10:34.42biguaopa ta valendo
10:34.43biguata otima!
10:34.48biguameu quesito :
10:34.51biguapassou dos 40kg
10:34.53biguaja era.
10:35.18ptlhahahaha
10:35.23ptlatropelador mesmo =D
10:35.43ptlhoje eo consegui a separao oficial da minha ex-namorada
10:35.43ptl=D
10:36.02bigua=p
10:36.06biguavc era casado?
10:36.22ptlmarroumenos
10:36.23ptlunio civil
10:36.29biguasux
10:36.29ptlpra ela poder usufruir do meu plano de sade
10:37.27biguaeu eh q nunca vo casar vei
10:37.30biguaquero ter minha vida
10:37.34biguaso + uma grana
10:37.38biguae morrer no cyberespao
10:37.42biguaem viagens pelo mundo
10:38.01ptlhum
10:38.04ptlhumna verdade
10:38.12ptleu devo casar logo em seguida com uma lsbica
10:38.15biguanem companhia nem nada
10:38.34biguae quero ter vizinhos bem velhinhos
10:38.41biguaakeles q fazem doce
10:38.46biguae bate na sua porta pra vc experimentar
10:38.54ptlter vizinhos velhinhos legal pra escandaliz-los
10:39.08biguaeu tenho 2 vizinho velhinhos
10:39.13ptlvoc deixar as janelas abertas e sair fazendo sexo com 2, 3 mulheres
10:39.15biguaacho eles o mximo eheh
10:39.35biguabrb
10:48.06henriquevcaramba
10:48.10henriqueveita povinho para não dormir
10:48.37henriquevptl: ssh henriquev.shacknet.nu -p 222
10:48.39henriquevme diz se pega
10:48.44henriquevou se o firewall bloqueia =P
10:50.47ptldeixa ver
10:54.46jllitvayBom dia !!!
10:56.48ptlssh: connect to host henriquev.shacknet.nu port 222: Connection timed out
10:57.06ptlbom dia, aglomerado aleatrio de letras em minsculas (jllitvay)
10:59.59henriquev=P
11:00.10henriquevah tá
11:00.12henriquevtá na porta 22
11:00.15henriquevvou ter que mudar, danmmm
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11:03.47agneyptl, tu continua barbarizando né ?
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11:20.15WHoa_04henriquev: good day =:P
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13:22.31Nemphilisaeeeeew
13:22.36Nemphilisbom dia
13:22.56Nemphilistao barrando tudo q eh porta aqui pra conectar no irc
13:22.59Nemphilis:-)
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13:23.32atalibaBom Dia, SLot
13:23.33ataliba;)
13:23.42atalibaBom Dia pessoal.
13:23.58Nemphilisbuenos
13:24.43Nemphilisui
13:24.44SLotataliba, dia :)
13:24.44atalibaTenho um live cd da nossa soluo berimbau linux, algum sabe como botar ele pra rodar pelo pendrive???
13:25.03atalibaSLot, sabe botar um live cd pra d boot no pen?
13:25.33atalibaeu j consegui com o damnsmall linux, mas live cd mesmo no consigo.
13:25.52SLotataliba, esse damnsmall. e q o povo usa.
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13:28.03Nemphilisalguem da sala entende um pouco de Theco aih ?:
13:28.16NemphilisDošlo k technickým potížím, vaše emailová schránka je momentálně nedostupná. Pracujeme na obnově systému, zkuste se prosím do své schránky přihlásit později.
13:28.16NemphilisOmlouváme se za potíže vzniklé v důsledku nedostupnosti vaší emailové schránky.
13:28.23Nemphilisvarei a noite tentando traduzir isso
13:28.25Nemphilis:-p
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13:32.56SLotNemphilis, tenta no google aquele tradutor chule q te la.
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13:34.01NemphilisSLot, nao tem theco
13:34.29SLotNemphilis, pro ingles e depois vc procura... hehe mas tb eh osso hein.. theco. porra.. nao tinha nada mais facil nao.
13:34.52NemphilisSLot, rodei a net inteira pra procurar de theco pra qualquer um outro idioma
13:35.02Nemphilissoh encontrei um krinha que pediu pra enviar no email dele
13:35.10SLotheheh entao tenta.
13:35.13Nemphiliseu enviei e recebi um email de volta com a conta bancaria
13:35.26Nemphilis:-(
13:35.27SLotkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
13:35.56Nemphilis20tao pra traduzir tres linhas eh mole
13:36.09SLothehehe
13:36.13SLotuai... paga entao..
13:36.23Nemphilismandei um email indignado
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13:42.34atalibaSLot, sim
13:42.40atalibaSLot, ele eh 50Mb ;)
13:42.58atalibaSLot, ele eh 50Mb ;) e roda perfeitamente no pendrive.
13:43.10SLotataliba, pois eh... cara eu nem pen eu tenho pra testar. :(
13:43.19SLotataliba, depois cria um howto pra galera :)
13:43.47atalibaSLot, ;) ele eh bem simples de instalar
13:44.12atalibaSLot, eu segui os passos do que tem no vivaolinux
13:44.42SLotlegla.
13:45.59atalibaSLot, consegui aqui um pendrive de 1Gb e agora quero botar a nossa solucao linux pra rodar nele... depois vou tentar rodar com o ubuntu
13:46.33SLotcaramba.. o cups 1.2. ja show.
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13:50.33NemphilisSLot, oq d novo ?
13:51.57SLotNemphilis, ele agora pede os .ppd por exemplo.. quando vc nao tem na lista o drive q vc precisa.. ele tem um campo pra fazer upload :)
13:52.19NemphilisSLot, hmm? Nao tinha jah ?
13:52.28SLotnao
13:52.55SLotvc coloca por "debaixo dos panos"  ... fazia download e colocava no local correto q ele interpretava.. agora eh so fazer upload
13:53.04SLotvai facilitar pra caramba pros tatus do suporte aq da empresa.
13:53.43NemphilisSLot, se bem q cada wm tem um utilitario pra ele, o q tbm facilita bastante
13:54.20SLotmas em servidores.
13:57.05agneySLot, tu mexe com jboss ?
14:00.08NemphilisSLot, hmm
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14:09.06SLotagney, nao
14:09.13SLotagney, mas sei quem trampa.
14:09.43lmelloalguem aqui bom de delphi e saca de kylix.
14:09.58SLotNemphilis, pra galera do suporte isso eh legal... ae qualquer nivel de suporte pode atuar... sem precisar colocar a mao em console.
14:10.05SLotNemphilis, vai via browser.
14:10.05lmellopara fazer uma migrao de um programa delphi windows para rodar no linux.
14:10.11lmello(jah tentei com wine e nao rola.)
14:10.15NemphilisSLot, ;-)
14:10.37Nemphilislmello, wine nao ? Cedega
14:10.38SLotlmello, tenta o cedega. mas eh pago.
14:10.44SLotNemphilis, heheh
14:10.51lmellovou tentar com cedega :-D
14:10.55NemphilisSLot, nao tem uma versao free ? Soh ouvi dizer, nao tenho certeza...
14:11.05lmellopor falar nisso.. alguem aqui j conseguiu rodar warcraft 3 no linux
14:11.13SLotNemphilis, tb nao sei.. nao uso.
14:11.23lmellosou apaixonado por este jogo. soh que tem 2 anos que nao jogo, pq nao tou mais usando windows.
14:11.41Nemphilislmello, vc consegue rodar tudo de win no cedega
14:11.44SLotlmello, eu ja rodei .... olha na http://www.frankscorner.org/ tem os macetes.
14:11.56SLotNemphilis, no caso do warcraft o wine resolve.
14:12.10lmellomassa :-D hehehe
14:12.17Nemphilislmello, rodei o counter strike q por incrivel q pareca, pegou fps mais baixo q no windows
14:12.19lmelloSLot, podiamos combinar um campeonatinho hehehehe
14:12.23SLotlmello, http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php?p=warcraft3
14:12.31SLotlmello, xii cara. perdi a minha iso tm tempos.
14:12.50lmelloahh... eu tb.. mas facil de achar.. ainda mais que nao preciso se preoculpar com virus... hehehehehe
14:12.55Nemphilislmello, da microsoft ?
14:13.10lmellosites de warez
14:13.37SLotlmello, nem.. se nao for comprado eu nem mexo... nao sou fa de pirataria
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14:13.44SLoteh por isso q esse pais ta essa bosta.
14:13.52lmellohuahuauhhua ... :-P
14:14.09lmelloeu sou maior usurio de cds de musica alternativos e de jogos alternativos.
14:14.16lmellofilmes tb. hahuahauha
14:14.21SLoteu sou fa de
14:14.24SLotbzflag netpanzer.
14:14.26lmellotenho 160 GB de filmes, 60 GB de mp3
14:14.32lmelloeu gosto de tetrisnet
14:14.43lmellobzflag nao sei jogar direito.
14:14.57SLotbao vou ralar.
14:14.58SLotinte
14:16.09lmellointe
14:16.11lmello:-D
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14:28.30DebianTUXuhul! soh falta o diagrama de interface!
14:28.34Lensbom dia
14:29.36NemphilisDebianTUX, ?
14:30.01DebianTUXNemphilis: to desde ontem de tarde fazendo uma documentacao absurda de um programa ridiculao
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14:30.26NemphilisDebianTUX, q isso rapah...documentacao eh sempre documentacao
14:30.36DebianTUXodeio documentacao
14:30.44DebianTUXprincipalmente as burocracias da uml
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14:32.48llpuml sux
14:32.48llp:D
14:32.53DebianTUXllp: total
14:33.37DebianTUXtudo que tem nela eh insuficiente! ce tem que preparar uma documentacao ENORME ateh para as coisas mais simples, prq nao tem um modelo que me de uma ideia total do problema... eh um conjunto enorme de modelos cheios de blablabla e firula. putz, que saco
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14:35.55WHoa_04dang break time long classs
14:36.41WHoa_04i didnt know porturgese had to many differences then spanish
14:37.00DebianTUXWHoa_04: #debian :-)
14:37.22WHoa_04DebianTUX: debian is good :)
14:37.54DebianTUXWHoa_04: no, i mean, If you whant to speak english, go to a channel that speaks english...
14:38.22llpDebianTUX, ele num tá aki para isso não, ele tá aki desde ontem...
14:38.40llpDebianTUX, querendo saber informações sobre o Brasil...
14:38.46DebianTUXllp: entao aprenda a falar portugues hora :-P   se a gente ficar falando outra lingua qqr em canal de americano eles kickam logo
14:38.49WHoa_04DebianTUX: yes i know :( here in a little i will be a fluent speaker in here though
14:39.15llpDebianTUX, não é pq americano é gay que seremos tb...
14:39.31DebianTUXllp: faz sentido. bom pensamento
14:39.41DebianTUXmas que eh injusto, eh
14:39.56llpEu não me importo...
14:40.03llpse vier alguém falando russo aki
14:40.07llpvou simplesmente ignorar
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14:42.16merovigiambom dia !
14:42.32iradobom dia, galera
14:42.33DebianTUXmerovigiam: que tem de bom
14:42.48DebianTUXmerovigiam: e de quebra tu me aparece p; estragar ainda mais :-P
14:43.04merovigiamDebianTUX:  :P
14:43.10merovigiamestragar o que rapah ?!
14:43.11iradobem.. estou instalando Debian e preciso instalar o mysql. Creio que por naõ ser livre, não existe nos repositórios (pelo menos, os que tenho)..
14:43.35llpirado, MySQL é GPL
14:43.37llp¬¬
14:43.41iradoe, como o http aqui é bloqueado, eu precisaria achar o mysql*.deb em algum repositório ftp.. sugestões?
14:43.47merovigiamirado:  tem sim
14:43.56merovigiamirado:  apt-cache search mysql
14:43.59iradollp - pensei não ser
14:44.05iradohmm..
14:44.11llpirado, ele também pode não ser... é dual license...
14:44.48merovigiamapt-get install mysql-server-5.0
14:44.53NemphilisWHoa_04, what you problem?
14:44.58iradollp: na verdade, na pagina do fabricante me deixou em duvida com o enterprise e o community
14:44.59Nemphilis:-D
14:45.23DebianTUXfabricante....
14:45.32iradomerovigiam: vou ver.. eh que meus apt-get update estao com trilhoes de erros (por nao poder http, creio)
14:45.38Nemphilis*your
14:45.50Nemphilismerovigiam, hi mister
14:45.57DebianTUXeu acho q esse termo jamais devera se aplicar ao mundo do soft...
14:46.05DebianTUXou melhor, jamais deveria
14:46.05iradomerovigiam: E: Impossível achar pacote mysql-server-5.0
14:46.06irado:(
14:46.11iradopobre sofre..
14:46.24DebianTUXirado: apt-setup   e adicione fontes ftp
14:46.30merovigiamapt-cache search mysql
14:46.36iradoDebianTUX: mas ele se intitula como fabricante - risos
14:46.47DebianTUXirado: nao estou discordando de voce
14:46.57iradoDebianTUX: mas eu nao tenho fontes de ftp :(
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14:47.05DebianTUXirado: roda o apt-setup
14:47.19biguaDebianTUX: dei uma testada no ubuntu
14:47.20iradomerovigiam: trilhoes de erros :(
14:47.23biguaahuahuha
14:47.25biguamto mole instalar xgl nele
14:47.28iradomerovigiam: eu jah havia feito
14:47.33biguaja tem tudo no repositorio
14:47.41llpirado, apt-get install mysql-server
14:47.46llptira esse -5.0
14:47.49DebianTUXbigua: eh eh. mais ridiculo ainda eh instalar no fedora... tem uma gambia pronta la
14:48.03biguaahuauha
14:48.08iradoDebianTUX: o -setup tah correndo.. veremos
14:48.21iradollp: vou tentar, em seguida
14:48.40biguaDebianTUX: achei o ubuntu bem intuitivo
14:48.41llpnão em a 5.0 no sarge
14:48.41llp¬¬
14:48.50biguamtopra instalar mto facinho
14:48.52biguavarias coisas uteis
14:49.51DebianTUXexit
14:49.53DebianTUXops
14:51.58iradogentem.. funcionando (aparentemente instalando o mysql).. veremos, dentro em pouco :)
14:52.10iradomas, por enquanto, muito obrigado pela atencao e paciencia :)
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14:53.06iradollp merovigiam e DebianTUX tks :)
14:53.18DebianTUXirado: o caralho, 10 pratas mais o dinheiro do busao
14:54.20merovigiamDebianTUX:  s/caralho/baralho/
14:54.40DebianTUXmerovigiam: obrigado.
14:54.55DebianTUXo irc ja podia fazer uma substituicao automatica :-P haha
14:55.59iradoDebianTUX: ixi.. pena.. acabo de comprar uma passoca com meus ultimos .25
14:56.13iradoDebianTUX: manda pro pau.. fazer o q, jah habituei mesmo :)
14:56.13DebianTUXputz veio, que caloteiro...
14:56.19iradokkkk
14:56.33DebianTUXih, esse papo de mandar para o pau neh comigo nao hein...
14:57.15merovigiamls
14:57.17merovigiamaffe
14:57.20merovigiamfeio  :(
14:57.22merovigiam:D
14:58.01Nemphilisos ubuntus antigos com upgrade vai pra versao nova ?
14:58.18merovigiamvai
14:58.27merovigiamno caso, dist-upgrade neh !
14:58.28llpse mudar as source.list
14:58.30llpvai
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14:58.42Nemphilismerovigiam, yah
14:58.49llppq eles não trabalham com "stable", "testing", "unstable"...
14:58.57Nemphilisllp, ;-)
14:59.06merovigiamubuntu eh tao atualizado que o vim7 nem entrou no dapper  :)
14:59.10merovigiamabusurdo isso
14:59.12guaxinimiae brows
14:59.17merovigiams/abusurdo/absurdo/
14:59.29Nemphilismerovigiam, pow, mas, tbm agora q entrou no unstable po
15:00.07merovigiamfaz tempo que o vim7 ta no unstable ....
15:00.24merovigiamtem coisa no dapper que nao tem no unstable ainda, pra ser ter uma ideia
15:00.30merovigiammas o vim7 nao tem
15:00.34Nemphilismerovigiam, tempo = 2meses ?
15:00.39merovigiamsoh compilando..
15:00.46merovigiamto usando o vim7 aqui compilado
15:01.43merovigiamEngenheiros Do Havaii - Acustico Mtv Ate O Fim.mp3
15:01.47merovigiammusicao hein
15:01.50merovigiamgaita boniiita
15:02.23Nemphilismerovigiam, ;-)
15:02.28Nemphilismerovigiam, tocamos ela na gaita tbm
15:02.51Nemphilisquando to bebado e solitario
15:03.16merovigiamque isso bixo ! essa musica no acustico ta fod a!
15:05.32Nemphilismerovigiam, offtopic
15:05.36Nemphilismerovigiam, :-D
15:15.32Nemphilismerovigiam, viu lah
15:16.03Nemphilisaih pessoal... tah caro ? http://www.rumo.com.br/sistema/ListaProdutos.asp?IDLoja=4264&Y=4766442451415&Det=True&IDProduto=593770
15:16.53lmelloalguem aqui conseguiu funcionar a acelerao grfica da placa de video via unichrome.. jah tentei de todas as maneiras possiveis...
15:16.57lmellotou usando sid.
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15:21.39Analysermerovigiam: acorda seu safado
15:23.26guaxinimacabo as bolacha
15:23.33guaxinimo que eu vou almoçar agora?
15:23.43SLotguaxinim, come o pacote.
15:23.48agneycome merda
15:23.50SLotguaxinim, ou melhor a embalagem.
15:23.57guaxinimagney, credo
15:23.57SLotagney, hehehe deixa de ser mal jhehehehe
15:24.13agneymal ? eu ?
15:24.17agneymal é o dia
15:24.26agneyhoje tenho que segurar almoço da turma
15:24.31agneysó saio pra almoçar 13:30
15:24.35agneyto até bambo de fome
15:24.35soulgalera tava usando a jvm e o som no sistema num sai mais
15:24.45guaxinimagney, leva uma maça ueauheuhea
15:24.49soulto usando ubuntu mas aki num tem alsaconf
15:24.54soulcomo faço pra reativa o som
15:25.05soulo amarok ta funcionando mas o som nao sai
15:25.15guaxinimsoul, abre o mixer
15:25.26guaxinimolhe os alternadores
15:25.42guaxinimvai abilitando e desabitando eles
15:25.48guaxinimuma hore vc acerta
15:25.52guaxinimse o problema for esse
15:26.36Analysersoul: pega os sources do alsa compila e instala, fica melhor ;)
15:26.39soulta tudo habilitado
15:26.54guaxinimsoul, então desativa
15:27.21guaxinimsoul, mas decha o som tocando
15:28.27soulvix
15:28.31soulfunciono naum
15:28.34soulto ficando doido ja
15:28.36soulrsrs
15:28.37SLotagney, morto de fome. ....
15:29.02agneySLot, vou comer #$%$#%$%#%
15:29.29SLotagney, zappp to fora...
15:29.31SLotagney, :p
15:30.27agneySLot, vem de ré
15:33.12henriquevWHoa_04: hello
15:35.40guaxinimagney, eu acabei de almoça
15:35.46guaxinimagney, frango ao vingo
15:35.50guaxinimagney, tava uma delicia
15:35.56guaxinimquer que eu descreva o sabor?
15:36.09guaxinimhenriquev, hello singer. =)
15:36.27SLotkkkkk
15:39.59henriquev=P
15:40.06henriquevguaxinim: hey, dude
15:40.23guaxinimhenriquev, the book is on the table
15:40.48guaxinimim worried about the blog tamplate
15:41.04guaxinimmy fingers dont want do write the php code anymore o.O
15:41.24henriquevguaxinim: are you creating your own blog system?
15:41.32guaxinimhenriquev, no
15:41.39guaxinimthe wordpress template
15:41.41henriquevI'd suggest you to try Wordpress out
15:41.44guaxinimneed some code
15:41.46henriquevoh,
15:41.49henriquevI see
15:41.52henriquevthat's great
15:42.00guaxinimits almost done
15:42.15guaxinimi need to fix one bug in layout
15:42.16guaxinim=/
15:42.44jihadnossa
15:42.47jihadparem de falar ingles.
15:42.51guaxinimOuvindo agora: Scar Tissue por Red Hot Chili Peppers - Album: Californication
15:42.51jihadse fosse ao menos certo.
15:43.01guaxinimjihad, what?
15:43.10guaxinimim not brazilian anymore
15:43.31guaxinimworld cup makes me give up my nacionality
15:44.00SLotae ae
15:44.06guaxinimNewton não era um cientista?
15:44.37SLoto falta q um OP fa.
15:44.37jihadtambem
15:44.38SLotz
15:45.42WHoa_04hmmmmm
15:45.48NemphilisSLot, verdade
15:46.38guaxinime o ChanServ ???
15:46.44guaxinim:P
15:46.45guaxinimuheauheauhea
15:47.00SLotUdontKnow, ta vivo nao ?
15:47.35Nemphilisguaxinim, vc seria o primeiro kickado por falar ingles no debian-br
15:47.44guaxinimNemphilis, auheauhaeuhaeuha
15:47.53guaxinimNemphilis, minha moral ta tão baixa assim?
15:48.00jihadacho que ingles nao eh offtopic
15:48.10Nemphilisingles nao
15:48.12guaxinimjihad, isso isso, é bom pra treinarmos =)
15:48.39SLottreina em pvt entao.. ninguem tem nada a ver com isso.
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15:48.50Nemphilisguaxinim, #debian
15:49.00guaxinimcredo
15:49.04Nemphilisou.. #debian-guaxinim
15:49.08Nemphilisguaxinim, :-)
15:49.44guaxinimninguem gosta de mim =(, euuaeuhe =)
15:49.51Nemphilisguaxinim, de que parte do pais vc eh ?
15:50.02Nemphilis*país[
15:50.03guaxinimNemphilis, SC
15:50.10Nemphilishmm
15:50.33SLotdeve ser de pelotas.
15:50.34SLot:p
15:50.46guaxinimSLot, pelotas em santa catarina?
15:51.30SLotnao vi o sc
15:51.30SLot:p
15:51.41guaxinimSLot, a =)
15:51.52SLotahh  e pra falar a verdade to igual vaca no pasto.. locomovendo e defecando
15:52.43guaxinimSLot, pss, no meu tempo éra cagando e andando
15:53.39guaxinimSLot, você é de onde?
15:53.48SLotpra ficar menos escroto.
15:53.49SLotmg
15:53.51SLotbh
15:54.09guaxinimhumm
15:54.39DebianTUXo pior de tudo eh que, depois de fazer todos os diagramas e documentacoes eu tenho que escrever, e escrever, e escrever, e depois de escrever muito, eu escrevo mais um pouquinho..... odeio uml...
15:55.24guaxinimDebianTUX, aeueueuah
15:55.34DebianTUXnada nunca eh suficiente...
15:55.38DebianTUXfui almocar
15:55.44guaxinimDebianTUX, você ta fazendo que curso?
15:55.51guaxinimDebianTUX, bom almoço;
16:02.14guaxinimhenriquev, to olhando alguns exemplos aqui, construi o layout errado, vou ter que refazer o html e boa parte do css o.O
16:03.03Nemphilist+ aepro6
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16:07.14henriquevguaxinim: dica:
16:07.22henriquevse não conhece bem xhtml, fique apenas no css...
16:11.49DebianTUXxhtml rulz
16:12.49llpo.O
16:12.49llpsvg rulez...
16:12.54llpse svg tivesse links
16:12.57llpseria o fim do html
16:12.58llp<PROTECTED>
16:13.01llpuhauhhua
16:13.10guaxinimhenriquev, o problema não foi o xhtml
16:13.13guaxinimele ta beleza
16:13.24guaxinimo problema foi a organização dele quanto ao css
16:13.31guaxinimo que eu queria fazer não funciona do jeito que fiz
16:15.12llpentão o problema foi na organização da página...
16:15.48llpse javascript tivesse uma sintaxe melhor... eu faria tudo que é site com Ajax...
16:16.04DebianTUXllp: qooxdoo
16:16.18llpDebianTUX, ?
16:16.26DebianTUXllp: procura no google ai, eh legla.
16:17.15llpframework para ajax...
16:18.16DebianTUXllp: nao soh p; ajax, p; uma porcao de paradas legais. vale a pena conferir
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16:20.03llpDebianTUX, parece ser legal pelos shots
16:20.04binsqpor favor, alguem conhece de programao web com autenticao pra comprar com cartoes ?
16:20.07llppena que não tem na debian...
16:20.20llpbinsq, o que vc quer fazer?
16:20.54binsqllp tem uma amiga minha querendo passar o servio pra algum q frague
16:21.15binsqeu so to tentando achar a pesoa
16:21.27llphmmm
16:21.39binsqpor favor ...
16:21.43binsqvc conhece algum ?
16:21.56llpnão.
16:21.58binsqo servio eh pago, logico
16:22.16DebianTUXbinsq: tef: complicado e caro... aconselho usar servicos de empresas que ja fazem isso.
16:23.24binsq[DebianTUX]: Tipo, ela tem um site de e-commerce e ta querendo colocar pra comprar de cartao ...
16:23.35llpaté pq isso precisa ser algo validado pela empresa do cartão...
16:23.40DebianTUXbinsq: tem empresas que ja fazem isso... perai, deixa eu ver uma que acho q faz.
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16:23.48hess_CPqDola
16:23.55binsqDebianTUX; Por favor
16:24.00llppq o problema é só você enviar os dados para a empresa de cartão
16:24.08llpvocê receber e validar esses dados é simples.
16:24.49DebianTUXllp: tem uma interface da empresa p; fazer isso.
16:25.03llpDebianTUX, então... o problema é ter acesso a isso...
16:25.13DebianTUXllp: problema nenhum, eh soh contratar.
16:25.17llpcomo funciona essa interface...
16:25.18llp:p
16:25.58DebianTUXhttp://www.cobrebem.com/  acho q esse faz
16:26.13hess_CPqDja usei esse cobrebem
16:26.55llphess_CPqD, é bom?
16:26.57binsqhess_CPqD : o q achou ?
16:27.10hess_CPqDmas pra vcs tao usando?
16:27.16hess_CPqDna epoca ela pra gerar boleto
16:27.39binsqhess_CPqD, to querendo pra fazer comprar apartir de cartoes
16:27.46binsqe-commerce
16:27.55hess_CPqDbom, entao contrata a visa-net
16:27.58hess_CPqDdireto
16:27.59DebianTUXbinsq: esse cobrebem faz.
16:28.17llphess_CPqD, mas a visa-net monta o sistema?
16:29.02hess_CPqDpra loja vc usa qualquer sistema.. tem trocentos ai livres..
16:29.12hess_CPqDa visa-net eh como um web service
16:29.17llpeu sei..
16:29.18llp:p
16:29.30hess_CPqDentao.. eh isso ai
16:29.51llphess_CPqD, o que ele quer é quem vai fazer o código
16:29.52llp:p
16:30.07binsq<(llp)>< isso
16:30.17merovigiamae que que ta rolando ?
16:30.18binsqodeio esses script do windows
16:30.31llpquem vai pegar esse e-commerce e adaptar para a realidade dele...
16:30.34hess_CPqDah... pega qualquer nego ai, paga um cinema e um lanche, que o nego faz
16:30.42llphess_CPqD, ¬¬
16:30.44DebianTUXhess_CPqD: hehehe eh sim.
16:30.45llpnão é bem assim...
16:30.59llpisso é desvalorizar a profissão...
16:31.00hess_CPqDdeve ja ter varios que suportam
16:31.03llphenriquev, pq tu num faz?
16:31.06llp:)
16:31.06hess_CPqDnao eh nao
16:31.15henriquevllp por que nao faço o que?
16:31.22hess_CPqDuma vez eu adaptei um desses ai.. acho que era o OScommerce
16:31.25hess_CPqDpra usar o PhpBoleto
16:31.29hess_CPqDpra um cara
16:31.31hess_CPqDfoi uma tarde
16:31.34llphess_CPqD, se o kra for viver de cine e lanche, de que ele vai viver...
16:31.35hess_CPqDnem isso
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16:31.48hess_CPqDcine e lanche eh uma metafora
16:31.50llpeu num digo que o kra deva meter uma faca e cobrar uns 50mil...
16:31.51llp:p
16:32.00llpmas tb não por 10 conto
16:32.00llp:p
16:32.03DebianTUXllp: p; faezr um tefzinho:!:!
16:32.05hess_CPqDisso quer dizer: comida (sobrevivencia) e diversao (diversao)
16:32.20llphenriquev, esse serviço pro binsq
16:32.23DebianTUXa gente nao quer soh comida, a gente quer comida........
16:32.33binsqTo precisando q algum pra fazer os codigo de um e-commerce pra vender apartir de cartoes, alguem pode me indicar alguma pessoa ?
16:32.34llp:)
16:32.55hess_CPqDbinsq, se for soh adapatar, eu ou alguem aqui do meu trampo faz tranquilo
16:32.59hess_CPqDadaptar
16:33.04DebianTUXbinsq: cara, ce realmente precisa fazer do zero:! o oscomerce tem varios drivers p; varios tefs e empresas brasileiras de tef... ce poderia usar isso...
16:33.17hess_CPqDjustamente
16:33.18llpbinsq, vcs já tem um sistema ou não?
16:33.48binsqllp; acho q so o site esta montado
16:34.08llpentão seria pegar o oscommerce e adaptar o layout desse site para ele
16:34.09llp...
16:34.10llp:)
16:34.15llppronto
16:34.23binsqx/llp: interessante
16:34.24llpalguém aí vai pegar o trampo?
16:34.25llpheheh
16:34.42llp*oscommerce é livre?
16:34.50DebianTUXsim
16:34.50hess_CPqDsim
16:34.51DebianTUXtotal
16:34.53llpahh
16:34.54llpachei
16:34.56llpeh :)
16:35.04binsqDebianTUX; vc fraga mexer com isso ?
16:35.07llphenriquev, faz isso... já que vc entende de web standards
16:35.08DebianTUXfunciona direitinho prcaramba.
16:35.28binsq<(DebianTUX)>< poderia conversa com minha amiga pelo msn ?
16:35.36binsq(x)hess_CPqD: vc tbm
16:35.41DebianTUXbinsq: mexi com isso ha muito tempo cara, no meu anitgo emprego, e eles tinham uma interface de tef propria p; se comunicar com os drivers da operadora.. enfim, camadas demais para eu entender como o processo funciona de verdade :-P
16:35.43llpmsn?
16:35.57llp:(
16:36.23binsqnum sei se isso ajuda, mas ela fez o site em asp
16:36.31hess_CPqDisso atrapalha
16:36.32hess_CPqDhahaha
16:36.40henriquevllp fazer um sistema de e-commerce livre?
16:36.48llphenriquev, adaptar um
16:36.56henriqueveu já pensei em fazer um tipo de pay pall livre :)
16:37.00henriquevpay pall?
16:37.01llpbinsq, isso atrapalha, e muito...
16:37.04henriquevpay pal
16:37.19binsqllp : Isso eh maus
16:37.26henriquevmas eu nao tenho tempo para começar um projeto desses nao
16:37.27llp:)
16:37.28henriquevse algum existir
16:37.32henriquevou tiver iniciando
16:37.43henriqueveu contribuo com o que sei de web standards numa boa
16:37.46llpbinsq, qual o link do site?
16:37.51henriquevmas começar, nem sou louco de repetir de período para sempre =P
16:37.53binsqhess_CPqD vc num encara, nao ?
16:38.06binsq(x)llp: xo pegar aqui ...
16:38.08hess_CPqDtudo na computacao eh possivel
16:38.13hess_CPqDeh soh uma questao de tempo e dinheiro
16:38.18llphehhee
16:38.20llpde fato...
16:38.39llpASP? provavelmente o server é windows...
16:38.42merovigiamquero ver meu micro lavar, passar e jogar o lixo fora !
16:38.42llpisso não é bom :(
16:38.51hess_CPqDmas estou sempre disposto a negociar... haha
16:38.54binsqPOR FAVOR, SE VCS SOUBEREM DE ALGUEM Q FRAGA ME DA UM TOQUE
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16:38.59llpmerovigiam, isso não é tão difícil..
16:39.03DebianTUXbinsq: nao precisa gritar
16:39.03binsqfo mal o cap
16:39.05DebianTUXok
16:39.33merovigiamapt: viu o pksato?
16:39.39merovigiamapt: viu pksato ?
16:40.51llpbinsq, ?
16:40.56binsq(x)llp: http://www.splesh.com.br
16:41.00binsqcustei mais achei
16:41.48llphmmmm
16:41.54llpo site seria totalmente refeito
16:42.01llpem cima do oscommerce
16:42.13llpsó seria chato converter os bancos-de-dados...
16:42.28llpbinsq, pergunta a ela se o servidor é um windows...
16:42.31llp*q parece ser.
16:42.36binsqcom certeza
16:42.37hess_CPqDcara
16:42.43hess_CPqDja tento o site assim
16:42.46hess_CPqDdesencana do oscommerce
16:42.53hess_CPqDtendo
16:42.54llphess_CPqD, asp ¬¬
16:42.56llpSUX!!!!
16:42.57llp:(
16:42.58hess_CPqDeu achei q tava cru
16:43.04hess_CPqDmas ja ta funcional
16:43.15hess_CPqDentao o melhor eh soh implementar a interface com o sistema do visa-net
16:43.18hess_CPqDmesmo que seja em asp
16:43.35llp:(
16:43.37binsq[hess_CPqD]: e quem faz essa implementao ?
16:43.44hess_CPqDeu posso fazer
16:43.52binsqhess_CPqD; joia
16:43.54llphess_CPqD, ecah!!!
16:44.09binsqhess_CPqD; num leva a mal eu perguntar isso, mas vc usa msn ?
16:44.20hess_CPqDuso
16:44.31llpResult:   Failed validation, 243 errors
16:44.32binsqhess_CPqD, poderia trocar uma ideia com ela ?
16:44.33llp:(
16:44.41hess_CPqDsim
16:45.12binsq[hess_CPqD]: xo ver se ela ta on-line ainda
16:45.42llphenriquev, kra, tem como tu arrumar teu CMS?
16:45.43llphhehe
16:47.55binsqhess_CPqD, vc nao responde no pvt
16:48.03binsqhess_CPqD ainda ta ae ?
16:48.07hess_CPqDsim
16:48.18llp-NickServ- The nickname [hess_CPqD] is not registered
16:48.24llppvt é só para registrados
16:48.30hess_CPqDpois eh
16:48.36binsqxo liberar isso entao ...
16:49.23binsquai!@
16:49.31hess_CPqDeu leio voce
16:49.32hess_CPqDvc nao me le?
16:49.40binsqhess_CPqD; nao
16:49.43llphess_CPqD, exato
16:49.44llp:)
16:49.55llpcria um dcc-chat
16:49.56llp:p
16:49.59binsq(x)hess_CPqD: mas assim da
16:50.08hess_CPqDentra no canal hess
16:50.25binsqx/hess_CPqD: vc le minha msg, nao ?
16:50.32hess_CPqDnao
16:50.38hess_CPqDentra no canal hess
16:51.46binsqObrigado a todos pela ajuda
16:51.58hess_CPqDqual o seu nome?
16:52.11binsqhess_CPqD : gabriel
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17:07.17Nemphilisaew
17:07.28NemphilisDebianTUX, terminou aih ?
17:07.35DebianTUXNemphilis: sem chances
17:07.38DebianTUXplugado em 220
17:07.41DebianTUXentrega em uma hora :-P
17:07.48NemphilisDebianTUX, sobre ?
17:07.55DebianTUXuma agenda O.o
17:08.18NemphilisDebianTUX, em... ?
17:08.36DebianTUXjava+qt
17:08.37DebianTUXe eh ruim prq eu uso qt hein
17:08.41DebianTUXprq se fosse awt... seria deveras pior
17:09.03NemphilisDebianTUX, :-)
17:10.53DebianTUXengracado eh que meu programa simplesmente nao funciona! uhaeuhuea (pelo menos eu nao considero isso funcionar), e ele faz a jvm travar tambem.. bizarro. eu nao fiz nada de mais.
17:12.31NemphilisDebianTUX, apresenta isso ueh...descobriu um possivel DoS no jvm
17:12.44DebianTUXhahahaha
17:12.58DebianTUXeh bem provavel que seja um problema da interface java/qt
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17:13.13DebianTUXafinal, um programa meu jamais vai ter erros :-P uehuhaeu zoeira
17:13.24Nemphilisuia
17:13.27rbmBom dia/tarde/noite
17:13.44rbmEstou a procura de um bom web designer. Alguem pode me recomendar um?
17:14.01DebianTUXrbm: guaxinim
17:14.07SLotrbm, sim
17:14.47rbmDebianTUX: qual o e-mail dele?
17:14.48rbmSlot: quem?
17:14.57SLotrbm, http://www.jwdutra.com.br/jwdutra/
17:14.58DebianTUXrbm: nao sei, pergunte a ele :-)
17:14.59Nemphilisrbm, llp
17:15.09DebianTUXo henriquev tambem he bom
17:15.46DebianTUXnao gostei do design nem do codigo desse jwdutra
17:16.00SLotrbm, viu ae ?
17:16.05henriqueveu tenho que sair agora, rbm não estou interessado em emprego com salário menor que 30k reias porque tou estudando e meu curso nao é moleza  :P
17:16.17henriquevmas se precisar de alguma ajuda, só falar que eu ajudo (de graça, hahhhha)
17:16.53rbmhenriquev: e' para um trabalho relativamente pequeno (mas que pode dar lugar a trabalhos maiores), nao para um emprego.
17:17.13rbmSLot: vi, mas nao tem informacao para contato em nenhum lugar na homepage dele
17:17.24rbmNemphilis: quem e' llp?
17:18.37guaxinimDebianTUX, fui pagar o aluguel, to pobre denovo, vc me chamou? =)
17:18.51rbmvale notar que eu pago em Dolar
17:18.57DebianTUXguaxinim: o rbm ta precisando de um webdesigner
17:19.00guaxinimrbm, uia
17:19.02henriquevahhh, tou apressado
17:19.13henriqueva minha porta 22 tá aberta com o ssh
17:19.18guaxinimhenriquev, =), então corre
17:19.19henriquevcomo eu faço para uma outra porta no mesmo cmoputador
17:19.22SLotrbm, http://jwdutra.com.br/jwdutra/component/option,com_contact/Itemid,3/
17:19.29henriquevser um tunel para a 222?
17:19.31henriquevusando ssh
17:19.31SLotrbm, manda um email pra ele.
17:19.34henriquevforwarding
17:19.56henriquevrbm: depois falo contigo, mas tá mais fácil eu apenas dar dicas ou indicar alguém...
17:20.04guaxinimrbm, opa, qual a sua necessidade no web design?
17:20.16rbmhenriquev: eu agradeceria qualquer um deles
17:20.40rbmguaxinim: eu te mandei umas mensagens em pvt com meu e-mail para contato
17:21.01guaxinimrbm, não veio nada aqui =o
17:21.43NemphilisSLot, http://www.jwdutra.com.br/jwdutra/ eh voce ?
17:22.34SLotNemphilis, nao
17:22.42Nemphilisuia
17:22.54SLotNemphilis, esse cara trampa comigo.
17:22.57Nemphilisrbm, em dolar ....ateh eu to me interessando hein
17:23.14rbme' mais facil para mim
17:23.26Nemphilisrbm, tah fora do pas ?
17:23.27rbmA minha empresa no Brasil ainda esta' em limbo
17:23.35rbmNemphilis: sim
17:23.49Nemphilisrbm, empresa de qu ?
17:23.56rbmguaxinim: entao me mande mensagem em pvt que eu respondo
17:24.11Nemphilisrbm, nao eh de advogados, eh ?
17:24.23rbmNemphilis: nao, nao
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17:24.40rbmminha empresa no Brasil e' de consultoria e estou tentando importar e vender uns produtos no Brasil
17:25.27Nemphilishmm
17:25.35Nemphilisrbm, notebooks ?
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17:26.09rbmnao
17:26.45PiterPunkrbm: drogas?
17:26.51rbmheh
17:26.52guaxinimhueahueauheuae
17:26.59rbmja' tem muita competicao nesse espaco
17:27.00rbm:)
17:27.05PiterPunknanda: Uia! Vindo direto da Confederao Helvtica!
17:27.16rbmguaxinim: vi tua mensagem, mas tu nao ves a minha
17:27.22guaxinimrbm, não
17:27.24guaxinim=/
17:27.35rbmguaxinim: manda e-mail para mim: rmello@fslc.usu.edu
17:27.35nandaPiterPunk: :)
17:28.23guaxinimrbm, done.
17:28.48henriquevalguém tenta se conectar em henriquev.shacknet.nu porta 222
17:28.50henriqueve me fala se pega
17:28.55henriquevpor favor, o mais rápido possÏvel :PPPPPP
17:29.28henriquevminha mae nao compreende que qualquyer nerd precias de ssh
17:29.30henriquevpara acessar fora de cas
17:29.31henriqueva
17:29.34henriquev:P
17:29.42guaxinimeaueuha
17:30.01rbmhenriquev: conectou
17:30.02Nemphilishenriquev, invalid port
17:30.18guaxinimguaxinim@guax:~$ ssh henriquev.shacknet.nu -p 222
17:30.21Nemphilisconectou
17:30.23Nemphilisfoi malz
17:30.37guaxinimaqui nada
17:30.41henriquevblz
17:30.51guaxinimpq eu não consigo =/
17:30.56henriquevufa, agora eu vou poder usar bem na universidade ]:)
17:30.59henriquevguaxinim: firewall?
17:31.08guaxinimhenriquev, local não
17:31.12guaxinimsó se o provedor tem
17:31.17henriquevestranho
17:31.20guaxinimmas por que me bloquear a 222, ou a 20
17:31.21henriquevtás colocando porta 222?
17:31.25guaxinimsim
17:31.31henriquevaí nao sei
17:31.31guaxinimguaxinim@guax:~$ ssh henriquev.shacknet.nu -p 222
17:31.33henriquevtenho que ir, fui
17:31.34guaxinimele não retorna nada
17:31.38guaxinimhenriquev, tchau
17:34.37guaxinimrbm, Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
17:34.37guaxinim<PROTECTED>
17:34.37guaxinimTechnical details of permanent failure:
17:34.37guaxinimPERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 unknown user
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17:38.39guaxinimTem alguem de Chapecó por ai, ou redondezas?
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17:42.31knoxyalguem aqui ja usou o drbd/heartbeat/mon ?
17:45.36Nemphilisknoxy, eh um dockapp ?
17:45.55Nemphilisjah ouvi falar esse nome em conexoes wireless
17:45.58Nemphilisheartbeat
17:46.04Nemphilisum tipo de teste de sinal
17:46.34knoxyNemphilis, isso
17:46.34knoxyseria para trabalhar em conjunto com servidores em producao...
17:46.42knoxycaso nao estejam on, entra no ar o espelho
17:46.56Nemphilisknoxy, ;-)
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17:47.55knoxypreciso de documentao boa para montar aqui hehe
17:48.05knoxyse alguem tem exp com isso.. seria legal para trocar ideias
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17:49.12Nemphilispoutz, nem tenho documentacao aqui
17:49.13Nemphilis:-(
17:49.18Nemphilisknoxy, jah deu uma googleada ?
17:50.34knoxyNemphilis, ja sim.. mas muito na correria.. com calma depois vou atras disso.. q se alguem tiver exp seria legal.. q estou fazendo outra coisa aqui hahah agora nao tem como
17:52.45guaxinimllp, to reconstruindo o layout pra corrigir o "bu"
17:52.53guaxinim"bug"*
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17:56.54llpguaxinim, q bug?
17:57.17guaxinimllp, o menu ta subindo encima do rodapé
17:57.28guaxinimllp, fiz um menu taradã
17:57.30guaxinimaeuhaeuhea
17:57.33guaxinimtaradão*
17:57.50Nemphilisknoxy, :-)
17:57.57llpNemphilis, q tem eu?
17:58.16Nemphilisllp, agora!! aaaah, perdeu $$
17:58.32biguaDepo
17:58.33llptu acha que eu confio em um kra que diz que paga em dolar?
17:58.35llp¬¬
17:58.39biguaalguem ai lembra, qual o blog que tem um video de desktop 3d
17:58.44Nemphiliskkkkkkk
17:58.46biguaque o cara faz tipo uma mesa
17:58.47Nemphilisllp, boa
17:58.54biguae espalha os icones etc os icones pula empilha etc
17:59.29llpquem foi que pegou o serviço?
17:59.30llpeheh
18:00.35guaxinimllp, aparentemente ninguem
18:00.41llphmmm
18:00.48llprbm, a empresa vende o q?
18:01.14Nemphilishahhahaha
18:01.19Nemphilisllp, tu eh chorao hein
18:01.21llprbm, qual o nome da empresa?
18:01.27llpNemphilis, chorão?
18:01.33llpnão, só fiquei curioso
18:01.34llpahuhuahu
18:01.59biguahttp://gbitten.blogspot.com/2006/06/superb-3d-desktop.html
18:02.00biguaahhuaahuahu
18:02.24llphenriquev, tá aí?
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18:19.49skiterhttp://gbitten.blogspot.com/2006/06/porque-integrao-do-ie-com-o-windows.html
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18:20.18skiterta ai uma boa dedada na ferida de quem gosta de windows :P
18:20.52CubanoLOL
18:21.12renckaboa tarde
18:21.30skitere pior que eu peguei uma maquina aqui da empresa que roda windows e deu certo
18:21.46merovigiamskiter:  ae
18:21.54skitermerovigiam, ae
18:22.53Cubanoskiter: o q acontece?
18:23.00Cubanoskiter: no tenho como testar..
18:23.10skiterabre o atalho.. no caso que ele passou ali abriu a calculadora
18:23.39llphenriquev, conhece JSON?
18:26.50guaxinimo wordpress gera um código muito feio
18:26.51guaxinimcredo
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18:28.40llpguaxinim, tou com vontade de investir meu tempo de folga em um CMS totalmente usando tecnologias Ajax-like
18:28.41llp:)
18:28.54guaxinimllp, hummm
18:29.02guaxinimllp, eu poderia contribuir =)
18:29.06llp:)
18:29.17guaxinimllp, o sistema de administração do joomla é muito bom e intuitivo
18:29.20guaxinimtu ja viu ele?
18:29.24llpguaxinim, jah
18:29.25llpnem gosto
18:29.28llpeu prefiro o do jaws
18:29.32guaxinimhumm
18:29.35guaxinimlink please
18:29.44llphttp://www.jaws-project.com/
18:29.51llpeh pq eu num tenho mais nenhum instalado aki
18:29.56llpse não eu te mostrava
18:30.12llphttp://www.jaws-project.com/index.php?photos/album/7/photo/90
18:30.16llpolha esse show
18:30.17llpshot
18:31.19guaxinimaquele menu drop down do joomla é bom
18:31.28guaxinimfica facil achar qualquer coisa
18:32.21llpnem acho...
18:32.27llppelo contrário
18:32.30llpé confuso
18:32.31llpsou mais assim..
18:32.34llptudo na tela..
18:32.39llpquer mais simples que o jaws?
18:32.41llp¬¬
18:33.06guaxinimllp, ué?
18:33.09guaxinimKISS????
18:33.17llpvc tá vendo o shot?
18:33.40guaxinimllp, sim
18:33.47guaxinimmais na cara impossivel
18:33.48llpvc tem certeza que akeles menus são mais simples?
18:33.52llp¬
18:33.54llp¬¬
18:33.56guaxinimos icones gigantes quase pulam na tua cabeça
18:34.08llpehh
18:34.09llp:)
18:34.11guaxinimllp, não to falando que são simples
18:34.14guaxinimoops
18:34.22guaxinimo menu do joomla
18:34.24guaxinimtem que ser bom
18:34.25guaxinim:p
18:34.42llpo joomla é confuso...
18:34.45guaxinimeu posso ta editando o portã do zoológico e mudar pra outra coisa
18:34.53guaxinimo drupal que é confuso
18:34.57llptb...
18:35.00guaxinimeu não consegui fazer nada nele
18:35.01guaxinim:p
18:35.05llpkkk
18:35.23llppow, mas aí vc vai sair das coisas sem salvar...
18:35.49llpno jaws
18:35.52llpbasta vc clicar
18:35.52llpvoltar
18:35.59llpe depois ela vai voltar para o menu principal
18:35.59llp:p
18:36.05guaxinimllp, se eu não quizer salvar
18:36.07guaxinimeu não salvo
18:36.10guaxinim=)
18:36.12llpentão
18:36.21guaxinimllp, tudo a mesma coisa ueauheauhae
18:36.52llpehh
18:37.00llpsó que é mais fácil vc "achar" as coisas no jaws
18:37.03llpdo que em menus
18:37.04llp:p
18:37.32guaxinimo joomla tbm tem os icones grandoes na home de admin
18:37.44llp¬¬
18:37.48llppodemos ver isso
18:37.53llptrabalhar com as duas coisas...
18:38.37llpmas vai ser legal...
18:38.52llpum CMS trabalhando muito mais no cliente que no servidor :)
18:39.28guaxinimhess\n, decida-se
18:39.38hess\neh
18:39.39hess\npronto
18:39.42guaxinim=)
18:39.44hess\nregistrei esse
18:39.49llpo.O
18:40.11hess\ndepois de quanto tempo cai o registro de nick aqui?
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18:40.25hess\no 'hess' ta registrado a 1 ano e poco.. mas o cara nao usa a 1 ano e poco tambem
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18:42.51llpguaxinim, conhece o Smarty?
18:43.03guaxinimllp, nop
18:43.08guaxinimllp, meu layout não ta com problema
18:43.10guaxinim=)
18:43.15guaxinimmeu css faltou uma linha
18:43.18guaxinimLol
18:43.21llpkkkk
18:43.29guaxinimlclear: both;
18:43.32guaxinimllp, clear: both;
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18:43.39llpo.O
18:43.58henriquev2llp, tu podes fazer um favor pra mim? :P
18:44.09llphenriquev2, fala...
18:44.32guaxinimhenrique versão 2?
18:45.15llphenriquev2, ?
18:46.20henriquev2isso
18:46.28henriquev2versao 2
18:46.37guaxinim=)
18:46.40llp?!?!?!
18:47.02llphenriquev2, se vc tá falando em pvt, eu num tou lendo nada...
18:47.23scorphusuia
18:47.36henriquev2llp, queria que voce fizesse um forwarding via ssh para mim, entendeu?
18:48.03llphmmm
18:48.04henriquev2ssh2 -R 80:henriquev.shacknet.nu:222 por exemplo, em alguma porta como de http, ftp...[D
18:48.19henriquev2P
18:48.32henriquev2:P
18:48.41henriquev2entendesse?
18:49.01llpsó tem um problema
18:49.06llpas portas 80,21...
18:49.10llpsão bloqueadas pelo velox
18:49.11henriquev2:bloqueadas? :P
18:49.11llp:)
18:49.20llpehh
18:49.20henriquev2droga :P
18:49.23llpelas não funcionam
18:49.27llppara acesso remoto
18:49.40llptem alguma porta acima de 3000 que possa ser usada?:
18:49.57henriquev2talvez 8080, ah, a do irc... ou o msn...
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18:50.03Cubanollp: tem a 3001
18:50.07henriquev2do irc 'e 6667
18:50.08guaxinimllp, 3333 é um numero bunito =)
18:50.16henriquev2:lol
18:51.40henriquev2colocasse? :P
18:51.49llphmmm
18:51.50llpacho que sim...
18:51.52llpo.O
18:52.18henriquev2em qual porta? :P
18:52.46llppegou não
18:52.59henriquev2xii, tou com sorte... :P
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18:54.52iradoapt viu macan
18:54.57iradoapt viu macan?
18:55.09iradoeita bot.. cade o apt_br?
18:55.48llphenriquev2,
18:56.24henriquev2fala
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18:57.15llp¬¬
18:57.42henriquev--dah
18:57.58henriquev--Tou usando  um cliente bem estranho
18:59.06llphenriquev--, conhece o smarty e o json?
19:00.21henriquev--nao , o que sao isso?
19:00.41henriquev--oxe, llp... tu tens certeza que mais cedo conseguisse se conectar no meu computador via ssh?
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19:01.42Nemphilisskiter, vc conseguiu usar isso aih ?
19:02.02llphenriquev, não foi eu que testei...
19:02.22skiterNemphilis, usar o que?
19:02.26henriquev--ah, testa ai henriquev.shacknet.nu porta 222, algo de estranho deve ter ocorrido
19:02.39Nemphilisskiter, o links lah, desktop 3d
19:02.44llpsem resposta
19:02.45llp:(
19:02.54skiterNemphilis, nem tentei
19:03.06henriquev--sera que a telemar ja bloqueou a 222?
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19:03.10guaxinimllp, mesmo prob que aqui
19:03.32llphenriquev, até onde eu sei, é qualquer porta abaixo da dois mil e alguma coisa...
19:03.40henriquev--que raiva.... paci^encia, eu nao consigofazer a empregada configurar o ssh :P
19:03.55guaxinim:P
19:04.00llpkkkk
19:04.05llphenriquev--, vai ficar sem ssh
19:04.07henriquev--mais cedo tu conseguiu, nao foi guaxinim?
19:04.16guaxinimhenriquev--, não
19:04.17henriquev--sim... depois eu ajeito la em casa
19:04.38guaxinimhenriquev--, eu tinha dito que não vc saiu correndo =)
19:04.54henriquev--quem fo que disse que sim? :P
19:05.20guaxinimhenriquev--, o Nemphilis
19:05.39henriquev--=P
19:05.44henriquev--pode fechar a conta la, llp
19:05.51henriquev--deixa pra la... queria usar para fazer uns gr'aficos
19:05.57henriquev--ja que nesse computador nao tem nada como gnuplot
19:05.57llprbm,
19:05.58Nemphilisguaxinim, oi ?
19:06.22Nemphilisskiter, fez isso funcionar ou nao ? no windows
19:06.23guaxinim<Nemphilis> conectou
19:06.26llphenriquev--, conhece o smarty e o json?
19:06.32Nemphilisguaxinim, onde?
19:06.38skiterNemphilis, não tentei
19:06.39guaxinimNemphilis, la em cima =)
19:06.48guaxinimNemphilis, no ssh do henriquev
19:06.55Nemphilispoutz
19:06.55skiterNemphilis, fiz um teste no esquema do link
19:06.58Nemphilisnao sabia q era ssh
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19:07.02skiterque tem naquele site
19:07.04Nemphilisnao conectou nao
19:07.14guaxinima
19:07.14guaxinim=)
19:07.15Nemphilisskiter, e nao funcionou ?
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19:07.39skiterNemphilis, o esquema do link funcionou
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19:07.46dsl3899uahuhauah
19:07.48Nemphilisaih krai
19:07.53Nemphilisskiter, o q nao funcionou entao ?
19:07.55dsl3899culpa tua, nemphilis
19:08.03Nemphilisdsl3899, oi?
19:08.11dsl3899rapaz, cheio de gente aqui jogando frozen bubble =P
19:08.27skiterNemphilis, bixo.. le o site
19:08.27Nemphilishenriquev, nao sabia q o protocolo era ssh
19:08.30skiter:D
19:08.37skitertem um esquema lá que fala sobre atalhos no windows
19:08.38henriquev--nemphilis, testasse o que????
19:08.41skiteresse que eu fiz
19:09.00Nemphilishenriquev, nc henriquevbalbalhabal 222
19:09.08henriquev--oxe, e t'a certo....
19:09.12Nemphilisskiter, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgbitten%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F2006%2F06%2Fsuperb%2D3d%2Ddesktop%2Ehtml isso aqui funcionou na tua maquina ?
19:09.26skiterNemphilis, esse eu não tentei
19:09.30skitere nem vou tentar
19:09.32skiternão uso windows
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19:09.41Nemphilishenriquev, pensei q voces estivesse apenas testando a porta, nao sabia q tinha o ssh rodando nela
19:09.43h2so4UdontKnow o loco
19:09.53skitertestei na maquina de uma funcionaria da empresa pra ver um esquema de atalhos que tem ali...
19:10.02Nemphiliskkkkkk
19:10.04h2so4alguem conhece algum software pra monitorar logs e tomar atitudes ?
19:10.04Nemphiliso kr aeh doido
19:10.51NemphilisSkarmeth, sistema de atalhos ?
19:11.03henriquev--ah, huauhauhauhuha
19:11.06skiterNemphilis,  http://gbitten.blogspot.com/2006/06/porque-integrao-do-ie-com-o-windows.html
19:11.09henriquev--vou te matar, nemphilis
19:11.15skiteresse que eu fiz o teste e funcionou
19:11.16Nemphilishenriquev, :-(
19:11.18guaxinimllp, Agora ta funcionando no Firefox, Opera e Konqueror.
19:11.34guaxinimllp, ou seja, Gecko Khtml e a coisa do Opera
19:11.41guaxinimllp, só falta funfa no IE :P
19:11.44llp:)
19:11.46llpnão falta nada
19:11.47llp:p
19:11.52llpguaxinim, deixa o IE de lado
19:11.53guaxinimllp, pod cre
19:11.53llpe bota no site
19:11.58fmachadopor falar em youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_wbyx1PCmc (pobre operador da British Telecom)
19:12.04llp"funciona melhor em browsers que seguem os padrões"
19:12.05llp:D
19:12.09guaxinimllp, tu acha que eu vo me esforça se quebra nele? :P
19:12.12henriquev--fmachado? felipe?
19:12.18guaxinimllp, vo decha assim =)
19:12.19henriquev--ah, fernando :P
19:12.24fmachado=]
19:13.57h2so4Samoied  bitchx de merda, auto protecao de flood
19:14.07Samoiedhehehhehe
19:14.10Samoiedh2so4: :)
19:14.14llpguaxinim, kkk
19:14.16llp:)
19:14.32guaxinimsó tem uma coisita que não ficou como nos planos
19:14.33henriquev--s'o tem gente doida aqui...
19:14.35guaxinimmas não importa muito
19:14.47guaxinimhenriquev--, fale por você, cantor :P
19:14.48Samoiedh2so4: http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/swatch
19:14.51guaxinimeauheuhea
19:18.38henriquev--vou-me=p
19:19.43llpdepois vou ler sobre o smarty
19:19.49guaxinimllp, http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7282/layout3ks.jpg
19:20.14llp???
19:20.31guaxinimllp, o unico prob no layout agora é esse
19:20.32guaxinim=)
19:20.50llpcomo é que foi esse problema?
19:20.52llpopz
19:20.55llpesse layout?
19:21.05guaxinim?
19:21.36llpdá para fazer essa barra completa...
19:22.03guaxinimllp, pior que da
19:22.08guaxinimmas tem que usar background
19:22.11guaxinime eu não gosto
19:22.12llpbota height 100%
19:22.13llp:)
19:22.24guaxinimé uma borda =)
19:22.27llpeu sei
19:22.33guaxinimpois é
19:22.40guaxinimo conteudo não pega toda a tela
19:22.44guaxinimpor causa do float
19:22.45llpmas ela é a borda do container do meio, não é?
19:22.53guaxinimpera
19:23.10llpcoloca no ar para eu ver o xhtml e o css
19:24.14guaxinimhttp://img345.imageshack.us/img345/598/layout1te.png
19:25.27llpfaz assim
19:25.39llpnesse div que tem o conteúdo
19:25.44llpcoloque height 100%
19:25.48llpno CSS
19:26.22guaxinimllp, http://guax.com.br/blog/
19:27.39llpdentro de #conteudo
19:27.43llpheight: 100%
19:27.49llpguaxinim, teste
19:28.36guaxinimnada
19:29.34jllitvayfalou gente, t amanh!!!
19:30.05guaxinimjihad, valeu ae ÇB.
19:31.14guaxinimllp, rápido que eu tenho que lava a loça ainda
19:31.51llptive uma idéia
19:31.52llp:)
19:32.08llpguaxinim, coloque border-left: 1px solid #a1a1a1;
19:32.12llpno menu_lateral
19:32.13llp:)
19:32.15llpvai servir
19:32.31guaxinimllp, o menu não expande =), ele ta float: right;
19:32.31guaxinim=)
19:32.37llpcoloque
19:32.39llpe verá...
19:32.40llp:)
19:33.06llpeu, se fosse você
19:33.13llpdeixaria a barrinha somente ao lado do menu
19:33.17llpde qualquer modo...
19:33.48llpdeixa nos 2
19:33.53llpque vai funcionar
19:35.06guaxinimllp, yeah
19:35.15llp:p
19:35.15guaxinimpelo menos no firefox
19:35.25llpdeixa a barrinha só no menu...
19:35.29llpfica mais sexy
19:35.30llp:p
19:35.39guaxinimque barrinha?
19:35.44guaxinimaaaa
19:35.46guaxinima borda
19:35.46guaxinim:p
19:35.48llpé
19:35.53guaxinimeu quero TUDOOOOOO
19:35.54guaxinimahueuhaeuheauh
19:36.21guaxinimAlguem tem IE em mãos?
19:37.20guaxinimllp, funcionou no Ff, Op, Konq
19:37.42guaxinimllp, e adivinha
19:37.42guaxinim=)
19:37.42guaxinimquebro no IE
19:37.43guaxinimeauueuheuhea
19:47.29llpguaxinim, pq?
19:47.34llpficou como no IE?
19:47.47guaxinimllp, eu não vi
19:47.50guaxinimme falaram
19:47.50guaxinim:P
19:47.55llpfalaram que ficou como?
19:48.00llpqual o problema?
19:48.02guaxinimllp, to tentando acha alguem pra me passa um print
19:48.02llpbarra dobrada?
19:48.21guaxinim<PROTECTED>
19:48.21guaxinim    aparece um risco lá embaixo na borda direita
19:48.21guaxinim<PROTECTED>
19:48.21guaxinim    e fico meio toro o corpo
19:48.36llpestranho
19:48.39llpme mostra o shot
19:48.45llptenho que sair já já
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19:49.08guaxinimllp, eu não tenho o shot
19:49.14llppede para ele tirar
19:49.15llp:p
19:52.00llpguaxinim, ?
19:52.07guaxinimcredo ca fuzuera
19:52.19llp?!!?!?!??!
19:52.22guaxinimpera
19:53.11guaxinimllp, http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/6240/imagem6kk.gif
19:53.57guaxinimaonde eu usei seletores especiais (pai>filho, last-child, etc) ele quebro
19:54.34llpo.O
19:55.09guaxinimllp, IE a pior porcaria que a microsoft conseguiu fazer
19:55.13guaxinime quer saber?
19:55.14llpkkk
19:55.17guaxinimQUE SE FODA
19:55.25guaxinimeu não vo faze ie hacks
19:55.26guaxinim:P
19:57.55llpguaxinim, usa svg :)
19:57.58guaxinimse os que usam IE quizerem ler o conteudo e o lay quebrar, eles vão usar o skin pra browsers inferiores (menos resolução, tablets e etc) que e o que essa jossa é UM BROWSER INFERIOR
19:58.23llpvale lembrar que IE não suporta xhtml
19:58.25llp:)
19:58.38guaxinimele renderiza tudo em quirks mode
19:59.29llptenho que sair
19:59.34llpaté a noite...
19:59.37llpFUIZ.
19:59.38guaxinimque gopher?
19:59.42guaxinimllp,
19:59.54guaxinim=/
20:10.39hess\ngopher?? e do wais?
20:11.17guaxinimao que me parece gopher é um protocolo
20:11.22guaxinimassim como o http
20:13.16hess\nsoh ao q te parece nao, de fato.
20:15.57guaxinim=]
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20:54.13guaxinimCACIUDA, quase, quae
20:59.52biguacaramba q raa
21:01.12scorphuso que vence é a vontade
21:02.40biguaat o goleiro
21:02.41biguaeheh
21:03.08CubanoALLEZ LES BLEUS!
21:03.19CubanoTchau cambada de PortuGAY!
21:03.29guaxinimcara
21:03.42CubanoVao descobrir a cor do cavalo branco de napoleo!
21:03.43guaxinimacabei de ve uma animação no Excluir do Wordpress
21:04.14guaxinimCubano, que raiva é essa?
21:05.24lmelloo goleiro foi o melhor mesmo
21:05.29biguaahuauhah
21:05.36biguasim
21:05.40biguagoleiro d+ foi at a area
21:05.42biguaahuahuhau
21:06.07Cubanoguaxinim: no gosto de portugays
21:06.12guaxinimeauheauhea
21:06.18guaxinimeu tava torcendo pro filipe
21:06.21biguaeu nao
21:06.22guaxinimnão pros portugues
21:06.22guaxinim=)
21:06.23biguaodeio filipe
21:06.25Nemphiliso kra eh Cubano dando uma de frances
21:06.30Nemphilisq phowarh eh essa
21:06.32Nemphilis:-p
21:06.43CubanoEu gosto do Felipo, mas ele foi infeliz em pegar esse seleo de bosta
21:06.50guaxinimNemphilis, ele deveria ter raiva dos EUA
21:06.51guaxinimaeueaueuauha
21:06.55Nemphilispois eh
21:07.03CubanoTorceria por ele em qualquer seleo, mas portugay no d..
21:07.04guaxinimCubano, e chegou nas semi-finais
21:07.08guaxinimo brasil nem isso
21:07.25guaxinimCubano, vc ja teve uma namorada portuguesa e pego ela com otro?
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21:08.03Cubanoguaxinim: Jamais teria uma namorada q no se depila, e no toma banho todos os dias...
21:08.05CubanoLOL
21:08.12guaxinimeuheauhaeuhueauheaueahuae
21:08.14guaxinimuhaeuhaehheahuaeuhauheauheah
21:08.14Nemphilisuia
21:08.17biguaAHAHHAAH
21:08.19biguaCARA
21:08.20NemphilisCubano, e torce pra franca ??
21:08.24CubanoSem contar q as portuguesas so feias pra caramba!
21:08.25biguaTO VENDO o tira teima
21:08.27biguao R. carlos
21:08.28Nemphiliskkkkkkkk
21:08.32bigua6 segundos pra arruamr a meia
21:08.38CubanoNemphilis: no, toro pra Argentina somente..
21:08.45guaxinimbigua, o jogo foi comprado
21:08.57CubanoNemphilis: s tava de onda com a Frana por causa de portugal
21:09.02guaxinimCubano, tu ta com uma simpatia anormal para com a frança
21:09.02Nemphilishmmm
21:09.03guaxinimeauhaeuheauhea
21:09.26biguaguaxinim: acho q nao
21:09.30biguaos brasileiros nao tava ligando mesmo
21:09.31biguaeheh
21:09.51guaxinimbigua, aquela falta fingida do fofomeno, credo
21:09.54guaxinimme doeu a alma
21:10.09biguafofomeno?
21:10.17biguaah do fenomeno
21:10.18biguaahhaahhauhauhauha
21:10.24biguahttp://blog.estadao.com.br/blog/anderaos/
21:10.25biguaahahah
21:10.28bigua"SE DANE"
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21:12.12biguaahhaahha
21:12.15biguaso quer te ra melhor visao do gol
21:12.16biguaAUHAHUHUha
21:12.25leleobhzbigua: ?
21:12.30leleobhzbigua: me conta pra eu rir tb!
21:12.52guaxinimleleobhz, http://blog.estadao.com.br/blog/anderaos/
21:13.00UdontKnowae
21:13.21leleobhzxover
21:13.31leleobhzUdontKnow: aee
21:13.54guaxinimaeeee
21:13.56guaxinim:P
21:14.16UdontKnowbaum?
21:14.21UdontKnowminha garganta doi...
21:14.32UdontKnowamanheci com a garganta destruida
21:15.10leleobhzguaxinim: uHAUhUAhUAHuHAuHAuHAuHAuHA
21:15.11leleobhz:]
21:15.15UdontKnowbaum, vo la fazer um rango, to morrendo de fome
21:15.16leleobhzeu vi isso :]
21:15.36guaxinim=]
21:17.48bigua'Sou Portugal desde 1500',diz Lula
21:17.50biguaahahah
21:17.52bigua:]
21:18.11guaxinim:P
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21:20.56Cubanobigua: Esse o nosso presidente, to inocente que no conhece a historia do proprio pais..
21:21.22CubanoPq se conhecesse, ao inves de estar pagando pau, mandava uns caas aereos bombardear aquela merda
21:21.26Cubanoahuaehaue
21:22.01leleobhzCubano: ?
21:22.15guaxinimleleobhz, ele tem raiva de portugal
21:22.27leleobhzguaxinim: ¬¬
21:22.33leleobhzguaxinim: ele tem raiva ate da sombra dele
21:22.39guaxinimeaeaueaueaueahuheauhae
21:22.42biguaCubano: eh fogo >.<
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21:29.21Nemphilisahhahaha
21:29.34UdontKnowCubano: e ainda diria 1498
21:29.39Nemphilis*boxe
21:29.50UdontKnowCubano: pra nao dizer q nao eramos de portugal antes
21:30.14NemphilisUdontKnow, e voce, tah away ou tah vivo
21:30.17Nemphilis:)
21:36.57UdontKnowos 2
21:37.31CubanoUdontKnow: Pois ..
21:43.15UdontKnowCubano: Duarte Pacheco veio em 1498 pra "reestabelecer as rotas esquecidas de longa data"
21:43.43UdontKnowe Pedro Alvares Cabral trouxe uma expedicao *MILITAR* para reocupacao em 1500
21:45.55CubanoUdontKnow: a historia do brasil muito mais alm do que est nos livros..
21:46.02merovigiam<PROTECTED>
21:46.23CubanoEsse lance de nova rota, descobrimento, puro papo furado..
21:46.36Cubanomerovigiam: aqui no canal oficial
21:47.33UdontKnowCubano: heheh
21:48.03UdontKnowCubano: mas Duarte Pacheco eh "verdade", encontraram e publicaram a carta original dele
21:48.17UdontKnowa nao ser que eles mentiam desde aquela epoca
21:48.18UdontKnowheh
21:49.39CubanoNo duvido..
21:49.56CubanoS sei que nada foi por um acaso, como a "historia" conta...
21:50.32CubanoUdontKnow: Portugal to burro, que roubou o ouro do brasil e deu pra inglaterra.. ahaha
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21:51.15UdontKnowCubano: e pro vaticano
21:51.26UdontKnowCubano: a basilica eh feita de ouro daqui
21:52.34CubanoE tem a interveno da igreja catolica tb e talz..
21:52.52CubanoDa famos CIA de Jesus, que queimou foi gente aqui..
21:53.19CubanoPadre anchieta era famoso por queimar missionarios q vinham de outros paises pro brasil.. ehehe
21:53.54CubanoDepois reclamam que os politicos so mentirosos e ladres, o problema do brasil vem desde o bero..
21:54.29UdontKnowheh
21:54.36UdontKnowo povo eh corrupto
21:54.45UdontKnowo governo so poderia ser, pra acompanhar
21:55.38merovigiamagora to curioso pra saber comeh que no google earht da pra ver ateh depressoes de um terreno ....
21:55.42merovigiamfiquei curioso ...
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22:03.21WHoa_04UdontKnow: good day :)
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22:15.08guaxinimWHoa_04, good evening here =)
22:24.10UdontKnowWHoa_04: hello
22:25.13UdontKnowWHoa_04: I am away, preparing some Tabbouleh
22:25.16UdontKnowbrb
22:31.49WHoa_04Tabbouleh?
22:37.46WHoa_04guaxinim: good evening here too, good day sounded better ;)
22:38.13UdontKnowWHoa_04: yep
22:39.31WHoa_04what is Tabbouleh?
22:40.14WHoa_04had a 5 hour porturgese class today .......
22:42.56guaxinimWHoa_04, =)
22:43.26WHoa_04about 6-7 more weeks of this
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22:45.06guaxinimAlguem ai tem o Steam?
22:45.48WHoa_04sad thing we havent really touched the language yet ;)
22:45.53WHoa_04just its history
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23:10.41llpinteressante, num tem nenhum cliente SIMPLE livre
23:10.43llppelo que vi
23:11.13rbmguaxinim: nunca recebi seu e-mail
23:11.23rbmguaxinim: mande novamente por favor: rmello@fslc.usu.edu
23:12.02rbmWHoa_04: Tabbouleh is an arabic salad
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23:32.50WHoa_04rbm: thanks for the info :)
23:33.27WHoa_04my brother wants to goto Rio next week
23:34.07priscilafaw: ping
23:35.35UdontKnowWHoa_04: neat
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23:36.29fawpriscila, pong
23:39.03guaxinimrbm, eu nunca enviei
23:39.05guaxinimdeu falha
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23:41.58priscilafaw: bom depois de tanto tempo, acho que devo perguntar como vai você primeiro :D
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23:42.46fawpriscila, hahaha, vou bem :-)
23:42.52fawpriscila, obrigado, e vc? Tudo certo?
23:43.42priscilafaw: ah tudo ótimo!
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23:44.53priscilafaw: queria saber a respeito do conisli, esse ano vai ter stand do debian ( i.e. já tem alguém pra bancar a conta?) .. como está isso?
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23:50.37fawpriscila, nao sei se vai ter estande
23:50.44fawpriscila, a previsar é que oe stande custe 3k
23:51.06fawpriscila, e eu não pretendo pedir dinheiro pro Projeto pra um estande de 3k no Conisli com baixa projeção como foi nos últimos dois anos
23:51.24fawpriscila, então por hora, estamos só com o totem do grupo de usuários
23:51.31fawpriscila, o evento ainda está meio esfumaçado
23:55.55WHoa_04UdontKnow: you ever been to Rio
23:56.05UdontKnowWHoa_04: no
23:56.58WHoa_04I seeee
23:57.18WHoa_04looks like a fantastic place
23:57.28WHoa_04that is if you stay out of the favelas
23:58.21UdontKnowyep
23:58.45UdontKnowWHoa_04: but theres even some safe tours to some favelas
23:59.16UdontKnowWHoa_04: many people come from all around the world for that tour... they say its an unique architecture... I say its just another favela
23:59.29WHoa_04i say its jsut a ghetto
23:59.39WHoa_04here the yare called the projects
23:59.43WHoa_04there they are called favelas

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